Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

37,858 cases and 387 dead in New York City as of today 3/26/2020. The death
rate will climb dramatically this week as the worst effects of the virus
are said to present themselves around 10 days+ after infection. The results
of NYC testing for Covid-19 are 28% of those tested are positive vs 8%
positive for the national average suggesting that the number of cases will
continue to climb rapidly for some time. The United States now has 81,578
cases diagnosed, more than any other country in the world as I understand
it.  Given that I expect many on this list are in the vulnerable age range,
I would suggest to err on the side of safety where at all possible.
Stay healthy and sail fast!
KD




On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 2:24 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I was in Rock Hall but even the bathrooms were closed...
>
> Neil Andersen
> 20691 Jamieson Rd
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
> 484-354-8800
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of CHARLES
> SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 4:07:30 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> *Cc:* CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
>
> Hi Andy,
> Were owners working on their own boats?
>
> On March 26, 2020 at 11:06 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Just departed Oxford Boatyard. They were flat out with summer prep and
> launching boats.
> Andy
> Masquerade
> On
> Chesapeake Bay
>
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI
> USA02840
>
> www.burtonsailing.com
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
>
> On Mar 26, 2020, at 10:15, Neil Andersen via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Joe,
>
> The townies in Rock Hall have been raising hell over out-of-Town(ers)
> coming in town and buying stuff (liquor in particular) since PA state
> stores are closed, etc.
>
> Thanks for the update.  Some of the other marinas in and around Rock Hall
> haven’t said more than they are closed to customers but have their staff
> working.
>
> One of these days Rock Hall will figure out what it wants to be when it
> grows up
>
> Neil
>
> Neil Andersen
> 20691 Jamieson Rd
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
> 484-354-8800
> --
> *From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Joe Della
> Barba via CnC-List 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:09:38 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> *Cc:* Joe Della Barba 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
>
>
> From the Haven Harbour website:
>
> March 25, 2020 – Due to a clarification provided by the Maryland
> Governor's Office, our boatyard and yacht services department will resume
> non-public operations effective Wednesday, March 25 at 8:00 a.m. ET. The
> Inn at Haven Harbour is reopened to the public and will begin accepting new
> reservations going forward.
>
>- Offices will resume operation as normal, however access to marine
>goods and fuel dock will remain closed to the public indefinitely. For
>parts assistance, please contact us during regular business hours at (410)
>778-6697 for payment and on-property delivery.
>- Please keep in mind that we are operating on a reduced staff, as
>employees have been asked to work only if they are healthy, able and
>willing.
>- As requested by Governor Larry Hogan, customers who are from or have
>recently visited the tri-state area (New York, New Jersey and Connecticut)
>will not be permitted access to our properties and are recommended to
>self-quarantine at home for a minimum of 14 days.
>
> Though our yacht services department remains in operation, we continue to
> urge all customers and visitors to heed the mandates posted by area
> governors and stay at home. We will continue to monitor this situation and
> make changes as needed in accordance with national and state health
> recommendations and sanctions. Thank you.
>
> Seems some common sense has prevailed, the marinas are not supposed to be
> closed to the point of blocking access to boats.
>
> Joe
> Coquina
>
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Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

I was in Rock Hall but even the bathrooms were closed...

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: CnC-List  on behalf of CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
via CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 4:07:30 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

Hi Andy,
Were owners working on their own boats?

On March 26, 2020 at 11:06 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Just departed Oxford Boatyard. They were flat out with summer prep and 
launching boats.
Andy
Masquerade
On
Chesapeake Bay

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI
USA02840

www.burtonsailing.com<http://www.burtonsailing.com>
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

On Mar 26, 2020, at 10:15, Neil Andersen via CnC-List < 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Joe,

The townies in Rock Hall have been raising hell over out-of-Town(ers) coming in 
town and buying stuff (liquor in particular) since PA state stores are closed, 
etc.

Thanks for the update.  Some of the other marinas in and around Rock Hall 
haven’t said more than they are closed to customers but have their staff 
working.

One of these days Rock Hall will figure out what it wants to be when it grows up

Neil

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> on behalf 
of Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:09:38 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>
Cc: Joe Della Barba mailto:j...@dellabarba.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI


>From the Haven Harbour website:

March 25, 2020 – Due to a clarification provided by the Maryland Governor's 
Office, our boatyard and yacht services department will resume non-public 
operations effective Wednesday, March 25 at 8:00 a.m. ET. The Inn at Haven 
Harbour is reopened to the public and will begin accepting new reservations 
going forward.

  *   Offices will resume operation as normal, however access to marine goods 
and fuel dock will remain closed to the public indefinitely. For parts 
assistance, please contact us during regular business hours at (410) 778-6697 
for payment and on-property delivery.
  *   Please keep in mind that we are operating on a reduced staff, as 
employees have been asked to work only if they are healthy, able and willing.
  *   As requested by Governor Larry Hogan, customers who are from or have 
recently visited the tri-state area (New York, New Jersey and Connecticut) will 
not be permitted access to our properties and are recommended to 
self-quarantine at home for a minimum of 14 days.

Though our yacht services department remains in operation, we continue to urge 
all customers and visitors to heed the mandates posted by area governors and 
stay at home. We will continue to monitor this situation and make changes as 
needed in accordance with national and state health recommendations and 
sanctions. Thank you.

Seems some common sense has prevailed, the marinas are not supposed to be 
closed to the point of blocking access to boats.

Joe
Coquina
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Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hi Andy,
Were owners working on their own boats?


> On March 26, 2020 at 11:06 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just departed Oxford Boatyard. They were flat out with summer prep and 
> launching boats.
> Andy
> Masquerade
> On 
> Chesapeake Bay
> 
> Andrew Burton
> 26 Beacon Hill
> Newport, RI 
> USA02840
> 
> http://www.burtonsailing.com
> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
> +401 965-5260
> 
> On Mar 26, 2020, at 10:15, Neil Andersen via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> 
> 
> > > Joe,
> > 
> > The townies in Rock Hall have been raising hell over 
> > out-of-Town(ers) coming in town and buying stuff (liquor in particular) 
> > since PA state stores are closed, etc.
> > 
> > Thanks for the update.  Some of the other marinas in and around 
> > Rock Hall haven’t said more than they are closed to customers but have 
> > their staff working.
> > 
> > One of these days Rock Hall will figure out what it wants to be 
> > when it grows up
> > 
> > Neil
> > 
> > Neil Andersen
> > 20691 Jamieson Rd
> > Rock Hall, MD 21661
> > 484-354-8800
> > 
> > -
> > From: CnC-List  > mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > on behalf of Joe Della Barba via 
> > CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> > Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:09:38 AM
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> > mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com >
> > Cc: Joe Della Barba mailto:j...@dellabarba.com 
> > >
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
> >  
> > 
> > From the Haven Harbour website:
> > 
> > March 25, 2020 – Due to a clarification provided by the Maryland 
> > Governor's Office, our boatyard and yacht services department will resume 
> > non-public operations effective Wednesday, March 25 at 8:00 a.m. ET. The 
> > Inn at Haven Harbour is reopened to the public and will begin accepting new 
> > reservations going forward.
> > 
> > * Offices will resume operation as normal, however access to 
> > marine goods and fuel dock will remain closed to the public indefinitely. 
> > For parts assistance, please contact us during regular business hours at 
> > (410) 778-6697 for payment and on-property delivery.
> > * Please keep in mind that we are operating on a reduced staff, 
> > as employees have been asked to work only if they are healthy, able and 
> > willing.
> > * As requested by Governor Larry Hogan, customers who are from 
> > or have recently visited the tri-state area (New York, New Jersey and 
> > Connecticut) will not be permitted access to our properties and are 
> > recommended to self-quarantine at home for a minimum of 14 days.
> > Though our yacht services department remains in operation, we 
> > continue to urge all customers and visitors to heed the mandates posted by 
> > area governors and stay at home. We will continue to monitor this situation 
> > and make changes as needed in accordance with national and state health 
> > recommendations and sanctions. Thank you.
> > 
> > Seems some common sense has prevailed, the marinas are not supposed 
> > to be closed to the point of blocking access to boats.
> > 
> > Joe
> > Coquina
> > 
> > > 
> > > ___
> > 
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Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

Just departed Oxford Boatyard. They were flat out with summer prep and 
launching boats.
Andy
Masquerade
On 
Chesapeake Bay

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

www.burtonsailing.com
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260

> On Mar 26, 2020, at 10:15, Neil Andersen via CnC-List  
> wrote:
> 
> Joe,
> 
> The townies in Rock Hall have been raising hell over out-of-Town(ers) coming 
> in town and buying stuff (liquor in particular) since PA state stores are 
> closed, etc.
> 
> Thanks for the update.  Some of the other marinas in and around Rock Hall 
> haven’t said more than they are closed to customers but have their staff 
> working.
> 
> One of these days Rock Hall will figure out what it wants to be when it grows 
> up
> 
> Neil
> 
> Neil Andersen
> 20691 Jamieson Rd
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
> 484-354-8800
> From: CnC-List  on behalf of Joe Della Barba 
> via CnC-List 
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:09:38 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> Cc: Joe Della Barba 
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
>  
> From the Haven Harbour website:
> 
> March 25, 2020 – Due to a clarification provided by the Maryland Governor's 
> Office, our boatyard and yacht services department will resume non-public 
> operations effective Wednesday, March 25 at 8:00 a.m. ET. The Inn at Haven 
> Harbour is reopened to the public and will begin accepting new reservations 
> going forward.
> 
> Offices will resume operation as normal, however access to marine goods and 
> fuel dock will remain closed to the public indefinitely. For parts 
> assistance, please contact us during regular business hours at (410) 778-6697 
> for payment and on-property delivery.
> Please keep in mind that we are operating on a reduced staff, as employees 
> have been asked to work only if they are healthy, able and willing.
> As requested by Governor Larry Hogan, customers who are from or have recently 
> visited the tri-state area (New York, New Jersey and Connecticut) will not be 
> permitted access to our properties and are recommended to self-quarantine at 
> home for a minimum of 14 days.
> Though our yacht services department remains in operation, we continue to 
> urge all customers and visitors to heed the mandates posted by area governors 
> and stay at home. We will continue to monitor this situation and make changes 
> as needed in accordance with national and state health recommendations and 
> sanctions. Thank you.
> 
> Seems some common sense has prevailed, the marinas are not supposed to be 
> closed to the point of blocking access to boats. 
> 
> Joe
> Coquina
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> 
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Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

That actually is kind of funny. We really like Rock Hall, not too many 
places like that. Why drive all that way though? Why not stop at the 
nearest liquor store in Maryland?


I'll probably take the dog to the beach for lunch and I can see the town 
water tower from our beach :)


Joe

Coquina

Kent Island MD

On 3/26/2020 10:15 AM, Neil Andersen wrote:

Joe,

The townies in Rock Hall have been raising hell over out-of-Town(ers) 
coming in town and buying stuff (liquor in particular) since PA state 
stores are closed, etc.


Thanks for the update.  Some of the other marinas in and around Rock 
Hall haven’t said more than they are closed to customers but have 
their staff working.


One of these days Rock Hall will figure out what it wants to be when 
it grows up


Neil

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

*From:* CnC-List  on behalf of Joe 
Della Barba via CnC-List 

*Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:09:38 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
*Cc:* Joe Della Barba 
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

From the Haven Harbour website:

March 25, 2020 – Due to a clarification provided by the Maryland 
Governor's Office, our boatyard and yacht services department will 
resume non-public operations effective Wednesday, March 25 at 8:00 
a.m. ET. The Inn at Haven Harbour is reopened to the public and will 
begin accepting new reservations going forward.


  * Offices will resume operation as normal, however access to marine
goods and fuel dock will remain closed to the public indefinitely.
For parts assistance, please contact us during regular business
hours at (410) 778-6697 for payment and on-property delivery.
  * Please keep in mind that we are operating on a reduced staff, as
employees have been asked to work only if they are healthy, able
and willing.
  * As requested by Governor Larry Hogan, customers who are from or
have recently visited the tri-state area (New York, New Jersey and
Connecticut) will not be permitted access to our properties and
are recommended to self-quarantine at home for a minimum of 14 days.

Though our yacht services department remains in operation, we continue 
to urge all customers and visitors to heed the mandates posted by area 
governors and stay at home. We will continue to monitor this situation 
and make changes as needed in accordance with national and state 
health recommendations and sanctions. Thank you.


Seems some common sense has prevailed, the marinas are not supposed to 
be closed to the point of blocking access to boats.


Joe
Coquina
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Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Joe,

The townies in Rock Hall have been raising hell over out-of-Town(ers) coming in 
town and buying stuff (liquor in particular) since PA state stores are closed, 
etc.

Thanks for the update.  Some of the other marinas in and around Rock Hall 
haven’t said more than they are closed to customers but have their staff 
working.

One of these days Rock Hall will figure out what it wants to be when it grows up

Neil

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Joe Della Barba via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 8:09:38 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Joe Della Barba 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI


>From the Haven Harbour website:

March 25, 2020 – Due to a clarification provided by the Maryland Governor's 
Office, our boatyard and yacht services department will resume non-public 
operations effective Wednesday, March 25 at 8:00 a.m. ET. The Inn at Haven 
Harbour is reopened to the public and will begin accepting new reservations 
going forward.

  *   Offices will resume operation as normal, however access to marine goods 
and fuel dock will remain closed to the public indefinitely. For parts 
assistance, please contact us during regular business hours at (410) 778-6697 
for payment and on-property delivery.
  *   Please keep in mind that we are operating on a reduced staff, as 
employees have been asked to work only if they are healthy, able and willing.
  *   As requested by Governor Larry Hogan, customers who are from or have 
recently visited the tri-state area (New York, New Jersey and Connecticut) will 
not be permitted access to our properties and are recommended to 
self-quarantine at home for a minimum of 14 days.

Though our yacht services department remains in operation, we continue to urge 
all customers and visitors to heed the mandates posted by area governors and 
stay at home. We will continue to monitor this situation and make changes as 
needed in accordance with national and state health recommendations and 
sanctions. Thank you.

Seems some common sense has prevailed, the marinas are not supposed to be 
closed to the point of blocking access to boats.

Joe
Coquina
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Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

From the Haven Harbour website:

March 25, 2020 – Due to a clarification provided by the Maryland 
Governor's Office, our boatyard and yacht services department will 
resume non-public operations effective Wednesday, March 25 at 8:00 a.m. 
ET. The Inn at Haven Harbour is reopened to the public and will begin 
accepting new reservations going forward.


 * Offices will resume operation as normal, however access to marine
   goods and fuel dock will remain closed to the public indefinitely.
   For parts assistance, please contact us during regular business
   hours at (410) 778-6697 for payment and on-property delivery.
 * Please keep in mind that we are operating on a reduced staff, as
   employees have been asked to work only if they are healthy, able and
   willing.
 * As requested by Governor Larry Hogan, customers who are from or have
   recently visited the tri-state area (New York, New Jersey and
   Connecticut) will not be permitted access to our properties and are
   recommended to self-quarantine at home for a minimum of 14 days.

Though our yacht services department remains in operation, we continue 
to urge all customers and visitors to heed the mandates posted by area 
governors and stay at home. We will continue to monitor this situation 
and make changes as needed in accordance with national and state health 
recommendations and sanctions. Thank you.


Seems some common sense has prevailed, the marinas are not supposed to 
be closed to the point of blocking access to boats.


Joe
Coquina
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Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Steve Thomas via CnC-List]

A friend of mine in Florida told me 2 days ago that snowbirds and others 
attempting to sail north up the east coast were running into problems because 
of all the marinas that were refusing transients dockage. Doesn't seem right. 
They didn't close all the hotels and motels on the motorways. 

Steve Thomas

 Joe Della Barba via CnC-List  wrote: 
As of 1 hour ago my marina is the same - they are "closed to the 
public", the public does not include boat owners, and they'll talk to 
you on the phone or from 10 feet away if you make them come out. There 
is no real way to physically keep people out if they really want to get in.

I have no idea how the live-aboards are dealing with the communal bath 
house issue, I 'll be using my own head for now!

Joe

Coquina C 35 MK I


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[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

As of 1 hour ago my marina is the same - they are "closed to the 
public", the public does not include boat owners, and they'll talk to 
you on the phone or from 10 feet away if you make them come out. There 
is no real way to physically keep people out if they really want to get in.


I have no idea how the live-aboards are dealing with the communal bath 
house issue, I 'll be using my own head for now!


Joe

Coquina C 35 MK I


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Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

I know this is getting a lot off topic from C’s, but as we are all going 
crazy locked up . . .

There is an interesting special on PBS, Nature TONIGHT  on Pangolins .  Be 
interesting to see if they connect the link between Pangolins, Bats, and CV19 – 

 

Bill Coleman

Erie PA

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:18 PM
To: cnc-list
Cc: Ken Heaton; Bruce Whitmore
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

 

To try to answer that question I'll supply this quote and a link to its source 
(John Hopkins University):

 

Carolyn Machamer, a cell biologist who specializes in coronaviruses, discusses 
the latest research on the virus that causes COVID-19

 

By Samuel Volkin / Published March 20

 

According to a recent study published in the New England Journal of Medicine, 
SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, can live in the air and on surfaces 
between several hours and several days. The study found that the virus is 
viable for up to 72 hours on plastics, 48 hours on stainless steel, 24 hours on 
cardboard, and 4 hours on copper. It is also detectable in the air for three 
hours.

 

Carolyn Machamer, a professor of cell biology whose lab at the Johns Hopkins 
School of Medicine has studied the basic biology of coronaviruses for years, 
joined Johns Hopkins MPH/MBA candidate Samuel Volkin for a brief discussion of 
these findings and what they mean for efforts to protect against spread of the 
virus. The conversation has been edited for length and clarity.

 

Volkin: According to this report, it sounds like the COVID-19 virus is 
potentially living on surfaces for days. How worried should we be about our 
risk of becoming infected simply by touching something an infected person was 
in contact with days ago?

 

Machamer: What's getting a lot of press and is presented out of context is that 
the virus can last on plastic for 72 hours—which sounds really scary. But 
what's more important is the amount of the virus that remains. It's less than 
0.1% of the starting virus material. Infection is theoretically possible but 
unlikely at the levels remaining after a few days. People need to know this.

 

https://hub.jhu.edu/2020/03/20/sars-cov-2-survive-on-surfaces/  

 

Ken H.

 

On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 15:04, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Fair enough, and this is one of the problems with getting quality news.  

 

The underlying question I guess is, if you find the RNA, is it still viable, 
i.e, can you contract the disease from it?  

 

I consider the study released by the NE Journal of Medicine to be as 
authoritative as any, and they indicate viable virus could be detected on 
stainless for about 72 hours, though the virus titer was greatly reduced over 
that time.

 

There are some additional studies out there, but I'm not seeing much in the way 
of conflicting information.

 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
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On Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 1:40:09 PM EDT, David Knecht via CnC-List 
 wrote: 

 

 

So if we are going to be accurate:

 

SARS-COV-2 is an RNA virus that causes Covid 19 and the test uses the RNA from 
the virus to test for its presence.  It is very unlikely that there would be 
any RNA around if it is not coming from virus.  It is possible you might find 
naked RNA without the rest of the virus, but unlikely, and that is the same for 
all Covid-19 tests.  When a patient tests positive, it means they are finding 
RNA in the sample, not virus.  There is presently no test for “live virus” as 
there is no such thing as a living virus and no test for functional virus 
except to infect cells in culture in a laboratory.  Dave

 

S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT








On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:

 

Hey folks, please note that in the stories, they talk about RNA, not live virus 
being found on the cruise ship surfaces.

 

Please, let's be very careful about sharing accurate information, and double 
checking our sources!

 

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net

 

 

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 12:16:02 PM EDT, Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
 wrote: 

 

 

And the good news was the virus was found to have survived 17 days on surfaces 
on one of the cruise ships that had the issue (not sure which one), but instead 
of living for hours, they are now saying it lives for days!  YIKES.

 

Sincerely,

Neil 

Neil Andersen 
20691 Jamieson Rd, 

Rock Hall, MD 21661

neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com

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 sender by reply e-mail, and destroy all copies of the original message and
> any attachments.
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *David
> Knecht via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:36 AM
> *To:* CnC discussion list CnC 
> *Cc:* David Knecht 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
>
>
> That is not the only absurd aspect of the response to Covid 19.  You can’t
> access your boat nor can I go into my University office, which in both
> cases there is no contact with other people. But I can go to the hardware
> store or grocery store where you can’t help but encounter other people.
> That is the situation in CT, anyway.  Not logical or based on any science.
>   Dave
>
> S/V Aries
>
> 1990 C 34+
>
> New London, CT
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>
> How the hell is THAT going to work? My marina has about 20 live-aboards. I
> don’t even see the point, when I am on the boat I am remotely close to any
> other person. I get out of the car and go directly to my boat.
>
>
>
> Joe
>
> Coquina
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Gary
> Nylander via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:58 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Gary Nylander 
> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
>
>
> That may be a state instruction. Talbot County is saying the same thing.
>
> Gary
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List  *On Behalf Of *Neil
> Andersen via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:19 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Neil Andersen 
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
>
>
> All the marinas in Kent County Maryland (Rock Hall, Tolchester, Worton
> Creek, etc.) are closed for boat owners.  The county instruction allow them
> to staff with their own people if the maintain “social distancing”.  So in
> at least some cases you can’t work on your own boat but can pay them to do
> work.
>
>
> USVI is closed to visitors too.
>
>
> Neil
>
> 1982 C 32 FoxFire
>
> Rock Hall, MD
>
>
> Neil Andersen
>
> 20691 Jamieson Rd
>
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
>
> 484-354-8800
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Fair enough, and this is one of the problems with getting quality news.  

The underlying question I guess is, if you find the RNA, is it still viable, 
i.e, can you contract the disease from it?  

I consider the study released by the NE Journal of Medicine to be as 
authoritative as any, and they indicate viable virus could be detected on 
stainless for about 72 hours, though the virus titer was greatly reduced over 
that time.
There are some additional studies out there, but I'm not seeing much in the way 
of conflicting information.

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On Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 1:40:09 PM EDT, David Knecht via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 So if we are going to be accurate:
SARS-COV-2 is an RNA virus that causes Covid 19 and the test uses the RNA from 
the virus to test for its presence.  It is very unlikely that there would be 
any RNA around if it is not coming from virus.  It is possible you might find 
naked RNA without the rest of the virus, but unlikely, and that is the same for 
all Covid-19 tests.  When a patient tests positive, it means they are finding 
RNA in the sample, not virus.  There is presently no test for “live virus” as 
there is no such thing as a living virus and no test for functional virus 
except to infect cells in culture in a laboratory.  Dave 
S/V Aries1990 C 34+New London, CT


On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hey folks, please note that in the stories, they talk about RNA, not live virus 
being found on the cruise ship surfaces.
Please, let's be very careful about sharing accurate information, and double 
checking our sources!

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 12:16:02 PM EDT, Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 
And the good news was the virus was found to have survived 17 days on surfaces 
on one of the cruise ships that had the issue (not sure which one), but instead 
of living for hours, they are now saying it lives for days!  YIKES.
  

Sincerely,

Neil 

Neil Andersen 
20691 Jamieson Rd, 

Rock Hall, MD 21661

neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com

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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:36 AM
To: CnC discussion list CnC 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
  

That is not the only absurd aspect of the response to Covid 19.  You can’t 
access your boat nor can I go into my University office, which in both cases 
there is no contact with other people. But I can go to the hardware store or 
grocery store where you can’t help but encounter other people.  That is the 
situation in CT, anyway.  Not logical or based on any science.   Dave

S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT









On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:
  

How the hell is THAT going to work? My marina has about 20 live-aboards. I 
don’t even see the point, when I am on the boat I am remotely close to any 
other person. I get out of the car and go directly to my boat.
 
 

Joe

Coquina
 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:58 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Gary Nylander 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
 

That may be a state instruction. Talbot County is saying the same thing.

Gary
 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Neil Andersen via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Neil Andersen 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
 

All the marinas in Kent County Maryland (Rock Hall, Tolchester, Worton Creek, 
etc.) are closed for boat owners.  The county instruction allow them to staff 
with their own people if the maintain “social distancing”.  So in at least some 
cases you can’t work on your own boat but can pay them to do work.
 

USVI is closed to visitors too. 
 

Neil

1982 C 32 FoxFire

Rock Hall, MD
 

Neil Andersen

20691 Jamieson Rd

Rock Hall, MD 21661

484-354-8800

 


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So if we are going to be accurate:

SARS-COV-2 is an RNA virus that causes Covid 19 and the test uses the RNA from 
the virus to test for its presence.  It is very unlikely that there would be 
any RNA around if it is not coming from virus.  It is possible you might find 
naked RNA without the rest of the virus, but unlikely, and that is the same for 
all Covid-19 tests.  When a patient tests positive, it means they are finding 
RNA in the sample, not virus.  There is presently no test for “live virus” as 
there is no such thing as a living virus and no test for functional virus 
except to infect cells in culture in a laboratory.  Dave
 
S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:24 PM, Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey folks, please note that in the stories, they talk about RNA, not live 
> virus being found on the cruise ship surfaces.
> 
> Please, let's be very careful about sharing accurate information, and double 
> checking our sources!
> 
> Bruce Whitmore
> 
> (847) 404-5092 (mobile)
> bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 12:16:02 PM EDT, Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> And the good news was the virus was found to have survived 17 days on 
> surfaces on one of the cruise ships that had the issue (not sure which one), 
> but instead of living for hours, they are now saying it lives for days!  
> YIKES.
> 
>  
> Sincerely,
> 
> Neil
> 
> Neil Andersen 
> 20691 Jamieson Rd,
> 
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
> 
> neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com <mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>
> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/pub/neil-andersen/0/239/a36/ 
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> Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
> 
>  
> That is not the only absurd aspect of the response to Covid 19.  You can’t 
> access your boat nor can I go into my University office, which in both cases 
> there is no contact with other people. But I can go to the hardware store or 
> grocery store where you can’t help but encounter other people.  That is the 
> situation in CT, anyway.  Not logical or based on any science.   Dave
> 
> S/V Aries
> 
> 1990 C 34+
> 
> New London, CT
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
> 
>  
> How the hell is THAT going to work? My marina has about 20 live-aboards. I 
> don’t even see the point, when I am on the boat I am remotely close to any 
> other person. I get out of the car and go directly to my boat.
> 
>  
>  
> Joe
> 
> Coquina
> 
>  
> From: CnC-List  <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:58 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Gary Nylander mailto:gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
> 
>  
> That may be a state instruction. Talbot County is saying the same thing.
> 
> Gary
> 
>  
> From: CnC-List  <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf Of Neil Andersen via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:19 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Neil Andersen  <mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
> 
>  
> All the marinas in Kent County Maryland (Rock Hall, Tolchester, Worton Creek, 
> etc.) are closed for boat owners.  The county instruction allow them to staff 
> with their own people if the maintain “social distancing”.  So in at least 
> some cases you can’t work on your own boat but can pay them to do work.
> 
>  
> USVI is closed to visitors too. 
> 
>  
> Neil
> 
> 1982 C 32 FoxFire
> 
> Rock Hall, MD
> 
>  
> Neil Andersen
> 
> 20691 Jamieson Rd
> 
> Rock Hall, MD 2166

Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Bruce Whitmore via CnC-List]

Hey folks, please note that in the stories, they talk about RNA, not live virus 
being found on the cruise ship surfaces.
Please, let's be very careful about sharing accurate information, and double 
checking our sources!

Bruce Whitmore

(847) 404-5092 (mobile)
bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
 

On Wednesday, March 25, 2020, 12:16:02 PM EDT, Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
 wrote:  
 
 
And the good news was the virus was found to have survived 17 days on surfaces 
on one of the cruise ships that had the issue (not sure which one), but instead 
of living for hours, they are now saying it lives for days!  YIKES.

  

Sincerely,

Neil 

Neil Andersen 
20691 Jamieson Rd, 

Rock Hall, MD 21661

neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com

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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 11:36 AM
To: CnC discussion list CnC 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

  

That is not the only absurd aspect of the response to Covid 19.  You can’t 
access your boat nor can I go into my University office, which in both cases 
there is no contact with other people. But I can go to the hardware store or 
grocery store where you can’t help but encounter other people.  That is the 
situation in CT, anyway.  Not logical or based on any science.   Dave

S/V Aries

1990 C 34+

New London, CT









On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
 wrote:

  

How the hell is THAT going to work? My marina has about 20 live-aboards. I 
don’t even see the point, when I am on the boat I am remotely close to any 
other person. I get out of the car and go directly to my boat.

 

 

Joe

Coquina

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:58 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Gary Nylander 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

 

That may be a state instruction. Talbot County is saying the same thing.

Gary

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Neil Andersen via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Neil Andersen 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

 

All the marinas in Kent County Maryland (Rock Hall, Tolchester, Worton Creek, 
etc.) are closed for boat owners.  The county instruction allow them to staff 
with their own people if the maintain “social distancing”.  So in at least some 
cases you can’t work on your own boat but can pay them to do work.

 

USVI is closed to visitors too. 

 

Neil

1982 C 32 FoxFire

Rock Hall, MD

 

Neil Andersen

20691 Jamieson Rd

Rock Hall, MD 21661

484-354-8800


 


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And the good news was the virus was found to have survived 17 days on surfaces 
on one of the cruise ships that had the issue (not sure which one), but instead 
of living for hours, they are now saying it lives for days!  YIKES.

 

Sincerely,

Neil 

Neil Andersen 
20691 Jamieson Rd, 

Rock Hall, MD 21661

 <mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com> neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com

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To: CnC discussion list CnC 
Cc: David Knecht 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

 

That is not the only absurd aspect of the response to Covid 19.  You can’t 
access your boat nor can I go into my University office, which in both cases 
there is no contact with other people. But I can go to the hardware store or 
grocery store where you can’t help but encounter other people.  That is the 
situation in CT, anyway.  Not logical or based on any science.   Dave

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1990 C 34+

New London, CT








On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

 

How the hell is THAT going to work? My marina has about 20 live-aboards. I 
don’t even see the point, when I am on the boat I am remotely close to any 
other person. I get out of the car and go directly to my boat.

 

 

Joe

Coquina

 

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Cc: Gary Nylander < <mailto:gnylan...@atlanticbb.net> gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

 

That may be a state instruction. Talbot County is saying the same thing.

Gary

 

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Cc: Neil Andersen < <mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com> 
neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

 

All the marinas in Kent County Maryland (Rock Hall, Tolchester, Worton Creek, 
etc.) are closed for boat owners.  The county instruction allow them to staff 
with their own people if the maintain “social distancing”.  So in at least some 
cases you can’t work on your own boat but can pay them to do work.

 

USVI is closed to visitors too. 

 

Neil

1982 C 32 FoxFire

Rock Hall, MD

 

Neil Andersen

20691 Jamieson Rd

Rock Hall, MD 21661

484-354-8800

 

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They shouldn't be banning people from their boat's.  Owners should go on their 
boat's anyway.   Closing the stores and community areas is understandable.
I'm up in Portland, CT and there is still access as far as I know.

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That is not the only absurd aspect of the response to Covid 19.  You can’t 
access your boat nor can I go into my University office, which in both cases 
there is no contact with other people. But I can go to the hardware store or 
grocery store where you can’t help but encounter other people.  That is the 
situation in CT, anyway.  Not logical or based on any science.   Dave
S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Mar 25, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> How the hell is THAT going to work? My marina has about 20 live-aboards. I 
> don’t even see the point, when I am on the boat I am remotely close to any 
> other person. I get out of the car and go directly to my boat.
>  
>  
> Joe
> Coquina
>  
> From: CnC-List  <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:58 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Gary Nylander mailto:gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
>  
> That may be a state instruction. Talbot County is saying the same thing.
> Gary
>  
> From: CnC-List  <mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf Of Neil Andersen via 
> CnC-List
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:19 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Neil Andersen  <mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI
>  
> All the marinas in Kent County Maryland (Rock Hall, Tolchester, Worton Creek, 
> etc.) are closed for boat owners.  The county instruction allow them to staff 
> with their own people if the maintain “social distancing”.  So in at least 
> some cases you can’t work on your own boat but can pay them to do work.
>  
> USVI is closed to visitors too. 
>  
> Neil
> 1982 C 32 FoxFire
> Rock Hall, MD
>  
> Neil Andersen
> 20691 Jamieson Rd
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
> 484-354-8800
>  
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Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

The good news is my marina isn't exactly secure, so it isn't like I won't be 
able to get there anyway.
Between this and barring access to second homes, I have some issues with a 
constructive taking of property. I get not infecting people, but I don't get 
within 50 feet of any other person at the marina.
Also, if my boat is damaged due to lack of maintenance in some way, who is on 
the hook for that?
Does the marina still expect to get paid?

Joe Della Barba
Coquina


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CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:34 AM
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Cc: Gary Nylander 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

I live a block away from my boat. I walk there to work on the boat and have no 
interaction with anyone unless I want something they have in stock - I agree it 
does not make sense. It is obvious the lawmakers have no concept of a working 
boat yard or marina is about.
Gary

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mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf 
Of Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:11 AM
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Cc: Della Barba, Joe mailto:joe.della.ba...@ssa.gov>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

How the hell is THAT going to work? My marina has about 20 live-aboards. I 
don't even see the point, when I am on the boat I am remotely close to any 
other person. I get out of the car and go directly to my boat.


Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf 
Of Gary Nylander via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:58 AM
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Cc: Gary Nylander mailto:gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

That may be a state instruction. Talbot County is saying the same thing.
Gary

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mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf 
Of Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Neil Andersen 
mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

All the marinas in Kent County Maryland (Rock Hall, Tolchester, Worton Creek, 
etc.) are closed for boat owners.  The county instruction allow them to staff 
with their own people if the maintain "social distancing".  So in at least some 
cases you can't work on your own boat but can pay them to do work.

USVI is closed to visitors too.

Neil
1982 C 32 FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

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Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

I live a block away from my boat. I walk there to work on the boat and have
no interaction with anyone unless I want something they have in stock - I
agree it does not make sense. It is obvious the lawmakers have no concept of
a working boat yard or marina is about.

Gary

 

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via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:11 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

 

How the hell is THAT going to work? My marina has about 20 live-aboards. I
don't even see the point, when I am on the boat I am remotely close to any
other person. I get out of the car and go directly to my boat.

 

 

Joe

Coquina

 

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CnC-List
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Cc: Gary Nylander mailto:gnylan...@atlanticbb.net> >
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

 

That may be a state instruction. Talbot County is saying the same thing. 

Gary

 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Cc: Neil Andersen mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

 

All the marinas in Kent County Maryland (Rock Hall, Tolchester, Worton
Creek, etc.) are closed for boat owners.  The county instruction allow them
to staff with their own people if the maintain "social distancing".  So in
at least some cases you can't work on your own boat but can pay them to do
work.

 

USVI is closed to visitors too. 

 

Neil

1982 C 32 FoxFire

Rock Hall, MD

 

Neil Andersen

20691 Jamieson Rd

Rock Hall, MD 21661

484-354-8800

 

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Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Good question.  I just sold a boat to a young couple as their new “home” which 
they have located in Baltimore.  The marina has a bunch of live aboard folks.

Neil

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

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via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 10:11:24 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI


How the hell is THAT going to work? My marina has about 20 live-aboards. I 
don’t even see the point, when I am on the boat I am remotely close to any 
other person. I get out of the car and go directly to my boat.





Joe

Coquina



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CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:58 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Gary Nylander 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI



That may be a state instruction. Talbot County is saying the same thing.

Gary



From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf 
Of Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Neil Andersen 
mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI



All the marinas in Kent County Maryland (Rock Hall, Tolchester, Worton Creek, 
etc.) are closed for boat owners.  The county instruction allow them to staff 
with their own people if the maintain “social distancing”.  So in at least some 
cases you can’t work on your own boat but can pay them to do work.



USVI is closed to visitors too.



Neil

1982 C 32 FoxFire

Rock Hall, MD



Neil Andersen

20691 Jamieson Rd

Rock Hall, MD 21661

484-354-8800


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Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

How the hell is THAT going to work? My marina has about 20 live-aboards. I 
don't even see the point, when I am on the boat I am remotely close to any 
other person. I get out of the car and go directly to my boat.


Joe
Coquina

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Gary Nylander via 
CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:58 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Gary Nylander 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

That may be a state instruction. Talbot County is saying the same thing.
Gary

From: CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>> On Behalf 
Of Neil Andersen via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: Neil Andersen 
mailto:neil.eric.ander...@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

All the marinas in Kent County Maryland (Rock Hall, Tolchester, Worton Creek, 
etc.) are closed for boat owners.  The county instruction allow them to staff 
with their own people if the maintain "social distancing".  So in at least some 
cases you can't work on your own boat but can pay them to do work.

USVI is closed to visitors too.

Neil
1982 C 32 FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

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Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Gary Nylander via CnC-List]

That may be a state instruction. Talbot County is saying the same thing. 

Gary

 

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Neil Andersen
via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:19 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Neil Andersen 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

 

All the marinas in Kent County Maryland (Rock Hall, Tolchester, Worton
Creek, etc.) are closed for boat owners.  The county instruction allow them
to staff with their own people if the maintain "social distancing".  So in
at least some cases you can't work on your own boat but can pay them to do
work.

 

USVI is closed to visitors too. 

 

Neil

1982 C 32 FoxFire

Rock Hall, MD

 

Neil Andersen

20691 Jamieson Rd

Rock Hall, MD 21661

484-354-8800

 

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Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Not sure which site is right.

https://www.travelmarketreport.com/articles/US-Virgin-Islands-Closes-its-Borders

The above site said USVI closed its borders yesterday.

Neil

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Joel Aronson via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2020 9:23:52 AM
To: cnc-list 
Cc: Joel Aronson 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

Marine industry employees are considered essential in Maryland.
Per noonsite.com<http://noonsite.com>, here is the list for the Carribean:

CARIBBEAN

Anguilla: 14 DAY QUARANTINE  (from 20 March)
See Anguilla 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/anguilla/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Antigua and Barbuda: OPEN (with restrictions)
See Antigua and Barbuda 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/antigua-barbuda/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Aruba: CLOSED (from 16 March)
See Aruba 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/aruba/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Bahamas: CLOSED (from 24 March)
See Bahamas 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/bahamas/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Bermuda: CLOSED (from 19 March)
See Bermuda 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/bermuda/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Bonaire: CLOSED (from 23 March)
See Bonaire 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/bonaire/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

British Virgin Islands: CLOSED (from 19 March)
See BVI 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/british-virgin-islands/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Cayman Islands: 14 DAY QUARANTINE (from 17 March)
See Cayman Islands 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/cayman-islands/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Cuba: CLOSED (all foreigners must leave – from 24 March)
See Cuba 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/cuba/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Curacao: CLOSED (from 18 March)
See Curacao 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/curacao/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Dominica: CLOSED (from 22 March)
See Dominica 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/dominica/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Dominican Republic: CLOSED (from 18 March)
See DR 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/dominican-republic/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Grenada: CLOSED (from 24 March)
See Grenada 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/grenada/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Guadeloupe: CLOSED (from 23 March – still open to EU)
See Guadeloupe 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/guadeloupe/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Haiti: CLOSED (from 19 March)
See Haiti 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/haiti/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Jamaica: CLOSED (from 24 March)
See Jamaica 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/jamaica/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Martinique: CLOSED (from 23 March – still open to EU)
See Martinique 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/martinique/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Montserrat: 14 DAY QUARANTINE
See Montserrat 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/montserrat/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Puerto Rico: LOCKDOWN (ports open)
See Puerto Rico 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/puerto-rico/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Saba: LOCKDOWN

Saint Lucia: CLOSED (from 17 March)
See St. Lucia 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/st-lucia/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Sint Maarten: CLOSED (from 23 March)
See Sint Maarten 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/sint-maarten/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Statia: LOCKDOWN (from 16 March)
See Statia 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/statia/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

St. Barts: LOCKDOWN (from 18 March)
See St. Barts 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/st-barts/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

St. Kitts and NEVIS: OPEN
See St. Kitts 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/st-kitts-nevis/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

St. Martin: LOCKDOWN (from 18 March)
See St. Martin 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/st-martin/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

St. Vincent and the Grenadines: OPEN (Mustique closed)
See SVG 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/st-vincent-the-grenadines/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Trinidad and Tobago: CLOSED TO ALL (from 23 March)
See Trinidad & Tobago 
Biosecurity<https://www.noonsite.com/place/trinidad-tobago/formalities#biosecurity-section>
 for details

Turks and Cai

Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Marine industry employees are considered essential in Maryland.
Per noonsite.com, here is the list for the Carribean:

CARIBBEAN

Anguilla: 14 DAY QUARANTINE  (from 20 March)
See Anguilla Biosecurity
 for
details

Antigua and Barbuda: OPEN (with restrictions)
See Antigua and Barbuda Biosecurity

for
details

Aruba: CLOSED (from 16 March)
See Aruba Biosecurity
 for
details

Bahamas: CLOSED (from 24 March)
See Bahamas Biosecurity
 for
details

Bermuda: CLOSED (from 19 March)
See Bermuda Biosecurity
 for
details

Bonaire: CLOSED (from 23 March)
See Bonaire Biosecurity
 for
details

British Virgin Islands: CLOSED (from 19 March)
See BVI Biosecurity

for
details

Cayman Islands: 14 DAY QUARANTINE (from 17 March)
See Cayman Islands Biosecurity

for
details

Cuba: CLOSED (all foreigners must leave – from 24 March)
See Cuba Biosecurity
 for
details

Curacao: CLOSED (from 18 March)
See Curacao Biosecurity
 for
details

Dominica: CLOSED (from 22 March)
See Dominica Biosecurity
 for
details

Dominican Republic: CLOSED (from 18 March)
See DR Biosecurity

for
details

Grenada: CLOSED (from 24 March)
See Grenada Biosecurity
 for
details

Guadeloupe: CLOSED (from 23 March – still open to EU)
See Guadeloupe Biosecurity
 for
details

Haiti: CLOSED (from 19 March)
See Haiti Biosecurity
 for
details

Jamaica: CLOSED (from 24 March)
See Jamaica Biosecurity
 for
details

Martinique: CLOSED (from 23 March – still open to EU)
See Martinique Biosecurity
 for
details

Montserrat: 14 DAY QUARANTINE
See Montserrat Biosecurity
 for
details

Puerto Rico: LOCKDOWN (ports open)
See Puerto Rico Biosecurity

for
details

Saba: LOCKDOWN

Saint Lucia: CLOSED (from 17 March)
See St. Lucia Biosecurity
 for
details

Sint Maarten: CLOSED (from 23 March)
See Sint Maarten Biosecurity

for
details

Statia: LOCKDOWN (from 16 March)
See Statia Biosecurity
 for
details

St. Barts: LOCKDOWN (from 18 March)
See St. Barts Biosecurity
 for
details

St. Kitts and NEVIS: OPEN
See St. Kitts Biosecurity

for
details

St. Martin: LOCKDOWN (from 18 March)
See St. Martin Biosecurity
 for
details

St. Vincent and the Grenadines: OPEN (Mustique closed)
See SVG Biosecurity

for
details

Trinidad and Tobago: CLOSED TO ALL (from 23 March)
See Trinidad & Tobago Biosecurity

for
details

Turks and Caicos: CLOSED (from 24 March)
See Turks and Caicos Biosecurity

for
details

US Virgin Islands: OPEN (with restrictions)
See US Virgin Islands Biosecurity

for
details

On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 9:20 AM Neil Andersen via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> All the marinas in Kent County Maryland (Rock Hall, Tolchester, Worton
> Creek, etc.) are closed for boat owners.  The county instruction allow them
> to staff with their own people if the maintain “social distancing”.  So in
> at least some cases you can’t work on 

Re: Stus-List Covid 19 update MD & USVI

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

All the marinas in Kent County Maryland (Rock Hall, Tolchester, Worton Creek, 
etc.) are closed for boat owners.  The county instruction allow them to staff 
with their own people if the maintain “social distancing”.  So in at least some 
cases you can’t work on your own boat but can pay them to do work.

USVI is closed to visitors too.

Neil
1982 C 32 FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD

Neil Andersen
20691 Jamieson Rd
Rock Hall, MD 21661
484-354-8800

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