Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

Graham,


  Phil Washhe has a J120 called Philharmonic about 7 slips to the 
east of mine at the club.  Phil is a retired machinist who has a 
complete machine shop in his basement at home.


I was trying for some time to remove the two seized SS stanchion 
screws/bolts with a Mastercraft Impact Driver. I was even hitting 
the outside one with a 5 lb. mallno luck.


Phil was walking from his boat, stopped, asked what was going on. He 
looked at the Mastercraft tool, said it was a piece of junk...said he 
would bring me one the next day that would do the job with a regular 
hammer..it was his Snap On Impact Driver.he was rightgot 
both the inside and outside seized screws/bolts loose.


He said even though I got the screws/bolts out of the stanchion, I 
would have a hard time separating the stanchion from its base. So he 
said take the stanchion base/stanchion off the boat and give it to him.


Three days later the repaired unit was waiting for me in my cockpit.  
He also replaced the two SS screws/bolts, one that holds the stanchion 
in the base and the inside one that holds the base to the toerail.   
He gave me back the bottom 8 inches of the bent old stanchion where 
you could easy see the corrosion where it was also seized in the base.


Nice to have dock neighbours that have this kind of expertise,

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 7/8/2020 10:24 PM, Graham Collins wrote:


You have a friend who does free machine shop work for you and 
replaces stanchions for nothing?  I'd love to meet this person! :-)


Graham Collins
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Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

Graham,

  Phil Washhe has a J120 called Philharmonic about 7 slips to the 
east of mine at the club.  Phil is a retired machinist who has a 
complete machine shop in his basement at home.


I was trying for some time to remove the two seized SS stanchion 
screws/bolts with a Mastercraft Impact Driver. I was even hitting 
the outside one with a 5 lb. mallno luck.


Phil was walking from his boat, stopped, asked what was going on. He 
looked at the Mastercraft tool, said it was a piece of junk...said he 
would bring me one the next day that would do the job with a regular 
hammer..it was his Snap On Impact Driver.he was rightgot 
both the inside and outside seized screws/bolts loose.


He said even though I got the screws/bolts out of the stanchion, I would 
have a hard time separating the stanchion from its base.   So he said 
take the stanchion base/stanchion off the boat and give it to him.


Three days later the repaired unit was waiting for me in my cockpit.  He 
also replaced the two SS screws/bolts, one that holds the stanchion in 
the base and the inside one that holds the base to the toerail.   He 
gave me back the bottom 8 inches of the bent old stanchion where you 
could easy see the corrosion where it was also seized in the base.


Nice to have dock neighbours that have this kind of expertise,

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 7/8/2020 10:24 PM, Graham Collins wrote:


You have a friend who does free machine shop work for you and replaces 
stanchions for nothing?  I'd love to meet this person! :-)


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11




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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Graham Collins via CnC-List]

You have a friend who does free machine shop work for you and replaces 
stanchions for nothing?  I'd love to meet this person! :-)


Graham Collins
Secret Plans
C 35-III #11

On 2020-07-08 10:41 a.m., Robert Abbott via CnC-List wrote:
With the aid of the Snap On Impact Driver, I removed the stanchion 
base and stanchion (stanchion was seized in the base) and gave it to 
my dock neighbor who took it home last Friday..  He is a retired 
machinist who has a workshop in his basement.  I went to the boat 
yesterday and the repaired unit was in the cockpit.  I am pretty sure 
he replaced the stanchion because this one is not scratched up at the 
base as was the old one.


With the assistance of another dock neighbor holding the screw driver 
on the two deck bolts, I tightened the nuts below the deck.


Next project?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 7/2/2020 5:34 PM, Dave Godwin wrote:

Rob,

Be careful about pulling the stanchions out of the aluminum bases. 
Hopefully yours will slip right out.


ALL of my S.S. stanchions were fundamentally welded to the cast 
aluminum bases. I spent may hours/days soaking in solvents and 
heating. Wash, rinse, repeat. Did not loosen them one bit.  A buddy 
with an acetylene torch took a crack at with the higher heat.


After applying the heat, he started banging on the aluminum base to 
free it. Which is exactly what happened when the base disintegrated. 
That proved to be a costly lesson…


Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 




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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Rob,

Excellent. Nice that it worked out for you. I replaced all my stanchions. Which 
was the plan anyway...

"Next project?”

Coming down and being the “second man” holding all the bolts as I finish 
putting the pushpin, pulpit and a few extraneous pieces of hardware back on?  
:-)

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 


> On Jul 8, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Robert Abbott  wrote:
> 
> With the aid of the Snap On Impact Driver, I removed the stanchion base and 
> stanchion (stanchion was seized in the base) and gave it to my dock 
> neighbor who took it home last Friday..  He is a retired machinist who has a 
> workshop in his basement.  I went to the boat yesterday and the repaired unit 
> was in the cockpit.  I am pretty sure he replaced the stanchion because this 
> one is not scratched up at the base as was the old one.
> 
> With the assistance of another dock neighbor holding the screw driver on the 
> two deck bolts, I tightened the nuts below the deck.  
> 
> Next project?
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S.
> 
> On 7/2/2020 5:34 PM, Dave Godwin wrote:

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Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

With the aid of the Snap On Impact Driver, I removed the stanchion base 
and stanchion (stanchion was seized in the base) and gave it to my dock 
neighbor who took it home last Friday..  He is a retired machinist who 
has a workshop in his basement.  I went to the boat yesterday and the 
repaired unit was in the cockpit.  I am pretty sure he replaced the 
stanchion because this one is not scratched up at the base as was the 
old one.


With the assistance of another dock neighbor holding the screw driver on 
the two deck bolts, I tightened the nuts below the deck.


Next project?

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 7/2/2020 5:34 PM, Dave Godwin wrote:

Rob,

Be careful about pulling the stanchions out of the aluminum bases. 
Hopefully yours will slip right out.


ALL of my S.S. stanchions were fundamentally welded to the cast 
aluminum bases. I spent may hours/days soaking in solvents and 
heating. Wash, rinse, repeat. Did not loosen them one bit.  A buddy 
with an acetylene torch took a crack at with the higher heat.


After applying the heat, he started banging on the aluminum base to 
free it. Which is exactly what happened when the base disintegrated. 
That proved to be a costly lesson…


Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 



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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Wish I had talked to you…. ;-)

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 

> On Jul 2, 2020, at 4:41 PM, billbr...@ns.sympatico.ca wrote:
> 
> I've had success with penetrating oil applied over a few days. After the 
> second day a used a pipe wrench to rotate the stanchion a micro turn one way 
> then the other way (while applying even more penetrating oil).   On the third 
> day it popped out no problem. 
> 
> Bill Bruce 
> Landfall 38

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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[billbruce--- via CnC-List]

 
  
   I've had success with penetrating oil applied over a few days. After the second day a used a pipe wrench to rotate the stanchion a micro turn one way then the other way (while applying even more penetrating oil).   On the third day it popped out no problem. 
   
   Bill Bruce
   Landfall 38
  
 


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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Dave Godwin via CnC-List]

Rob,

Be careful about pulling the stanchions out of the aluminum bases. Hopefully 
yours will slip right out.

ALL of my S.S. stanchions were fundamentally welded to the cast aluminum bases. 
I spent may hours/days soaking in solvents and heating. Wash, rinse, repeat. 
Did not loosen them one bit.  A buddy with an acetylene torch took a crack at 
with the higher heat.

After applying the heat, he started banging on the aluminum base to free it. 
Which is exactly what happened when the base disintegrated. That proved to be a 
costly lesson…

Regards,
Dave Godwin
1982 C 37 - Ronin
Reedville - Chesapeake Bay
Ronin’s Overdue Refit 

> On Jul 2, 2020, at 10:49 AM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> A fellow sailor, who is also a machinist, lent me his Snap On Impact 
> Driver...it got the seized SS screw out.  In order to remove the stanchion 
> from the base, I will have to remove the stanchion base from the deck and he 
> will take it to his shop (basement in this case) to separate them and 
> straighten the stanchion.
> 
> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S.
> 

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Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

A fellow sailor, who is also a machinist, lent me his Snap On Impact 
Driver...it got the seized SS screw out.  In order to remove the 
stanchion from the base, I will have to remove the stanchion base from 
the deck and he will take it to his shop (basement in this case) to 
separate them and straighten the stanchion.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 7/1/2020 2:15 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List wrote:
I have the same situation at the moment with a seized Phillips head 
screw at the base of a lifeline stanchion.  I’ve decided to remove the 
stanchion base from the boat so that I can apply more aggressive removal 
tactics.  I have a replacement stanchion—so I don’t care if I destroy 
the stanchion in the process.


Bob

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Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

A fellow sailor, who is also a machinist, lent me his Snap On Impact 
Driver...it got the seized SS screw out.  In order to remove the 
stanchion from the base, I will have to remove the stanchion base from 
the deck and he will take it to his shop (basement in this case) to 
separate them and straighten the stanchion.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 7/1/2020 2:15 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List wrote:
I have the same situation at the moment with a seized Phillips head 
screw at the base of a lifeline stanchion.  I’ve decided to remove the 
stanchion base from the boat so that I can apply more aggressive 
removal tactics.  I have a replacement stanchion—so I don’t care if I 
destroy the stanchion in the process.


Bob




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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Chris Riedinger via CnC-List]

Make sure to seal the threads FULLY with loctite or antiseize (choose your
antiseize wisely here..) when reassembling.

Also be sure the new screws are 316ss, lots of poor quality 'stainless'
hardware out there. Go to your local ace hardware or similar, 18-8 is not
suitable in a marine environment IMO.

I often find that many applications of penetrating oil may be necessary
where corrosion has inhabited threaded products. I try to use a hook/pick
to remove any visible corrosion to help penetration of oil.

Heat is often an option for me. I have a battery powered heat gun that has
a 'concentrator' tip- the flip side of this is using compressed air in a
can- super cold on the bolt to shrink it a bit. Remember that heat
"expanding" makes everything tighter (but might break bonds of corrosion),
you need the male component to be smaller.
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Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

A fellow sailor, who is also a machinist, lent me his Snap On Impact 
Driver...it got the seized SS screw out.  In order to remove the 
stanchion from the base, I will have to remove the stanchion base from 
the deck and he will take it to his shop (basement in this case) to 
separate them and straighten the stanchion.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 7/1/2020 2:15 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List wrote:
I have the same situation at the moment with a seized Phillips head 
screw at the base of a lifeline stanchion.  I’ve decided to remove the 
stanchion base from the boat so that I can apply more aggressive removal 
tactics.  I have a replacement stanchion—so I don’t care if I destroy 
the stanchion in the process.


Bob



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[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

A fellow sailor, who is also a machinist, lent me his Snap On Impact 
Driver...it got the seized SS screw out.  In order to remove the 
stanchion from the base, I will have to remove the stanchion base from 
the deck and he will take it to his shop (basement in this case) to 
separate them and straighten the stanchion.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.

On 7/1/2020 2:15 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List wrote:
I have the same situation at the moment with a seized Phillips head 
screw at the base of a lifeline stanchion.  I’ve decided to remove the 
stanchion base from the boat so that I can apply more aggressive 
removal tactics.  I have a replacement stanchion—so I don’t care if I 
destroy the stanchion in the process.


Bob




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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[John Christopher via CnC-List]

Try using an lithium impact wrench / gun. Not to be confused with an impact 
drill. The kind the garage uses to remove the lug nuts on your car rims.

I’ve used mine on several occasions and it made quick work of seized SS screws.

Believe they can be rented as well.


/John

>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Michael Brannon  wrote:
> Left handed drill bits work well on this type of problem.  
> 
> Mike Brannon
> Virginia Lee 93295
> 1978 C 36 CB
> Virginia Beach, VA
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I want to remove a stanchion but the SS screw in the toe rail into the 
>> stanchion is seized .I have applied PB Blaster, 50% ATF - 50% 
>> Acetonetied putting a Philips head driver and hammering it to break the 
>> bond, no luck.
>> 
>> Scared to try torch heat because of the proximity to the hull and do not 
>> have an impact driver but may get one.
>> 
>> Anyone have any experience with this?
>> 
>> 
>>> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C 32 - #277
>>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
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[Robert Boyer via CnC-List]

I have the same situation at the moment with a seized Phillips head screw at 
the base of a lifeline stanchion.  I’ve decided to remove the stanchion base 
from the boat so that I can apply more aggressive removal tactics.  I have a 
replacement stanchion—so I don’t care if I destroy the stanchion in the process.

Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Spending winters in the Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and somewhere on the 
ICW in between)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 11:29 AM, Michael Brannon via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Left handed drill bits work well on this type of problem.  
> 
> Mike Brannon
> Virginia Lee 93295
> 1978 C 36 CB
> Virginia Beach, VA
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I want to remove a stanchion but the SS screw in the toe rail into the 
>> stanchion is seized .I have applied PB Blaster, 50% ATF - 50% 
>> Acetonetied putting a Philips head driver and hammering it to break the 
>> bond, no luck.
>> 
>> Scared to try torch heat because of the proximity to the hull and do not 
>> have an impact driver but may get one.
>> 
>> Anyone have any experience with this?
>> 
>> 
>>> Rob Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C 32 - #277
>>> Halifax, N.S.
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List]

Hard to beat Harbor Freight for these.  I keep a set in my drill carry all and 
rarely ever use them, but find they work wonders when needed.  HF also sells a 
kit for tapping small holes that is amazingly easy to use, also.
https://www.harborfreight.com/screw-extractor-set-12-pc-61981.html


> On 07/01/2020 11:28 AM Michael Brannon via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Left handed drill bits work well on this type of problem.  
> 
> Mike Brannon
> Virginia Lee 93295
> 1978 C 36 CB
> Virginia Beach, VA
> 
> 
> 
> > > On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List < 
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com > wrote:
> > I want to remove a stanchion but the SS screw in the toe rail into 
> > the stanchion is seized .I have applied PB Blaster, 50% ATF - 50% 
> > Acetonetied putting a Philips head driver and hammering it to break the 
> > bond, no luck.
> > 
> > Scared to try torch heat because of the proximity to the hull and 
> > do not have an impact driver but may get one.
> > 
> > Anyone have any experience with this?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > > > Rob Abbott
> > > AZURA
> > > C 32 - #277
> > > Halifax, N.S.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Graham Collins via CnC-List]

Grind the nut off inside the boat?  I've got a Foredom brand tool with a 
flex shaft that you can borrow if you need it, blows the dremel away - 
but a dremel would work also.


Graham Collins
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On 2020-07-01 12:28 p.m., Michael Brannon via CnC-List wrote:

Left handed drill bits work well on this type of problem.

Mike Brannon
Virginia Lee 93295
1978 C 36 CB
Virginia Beach, VA




On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I want to remove a stanchion but the SS screw in the toe rail into 
the stanchion is seized .I have applied PB Blaster, 50% ATF - 50% 
Acetonetied putting a Philips head driver and hammering it to 
break the bond, no luck.


Scared to try torch heat because of the proximity to the hull and do 
not have an impact driver but may get one.


Anyone have any experience with this?



Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.





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Left handed drill bits work well on this type of problem.  

Mike Brannon
Virginia Lee 93295
1978 C 36 CB
Virginia Beach, VA




> On Jun 1, 2020, at 9:21 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> I want to remove a stanchion but the SS screw in the toe rail into the 
> stanchion is seized .I have applied PB Blaster, 50% ATF - 50% 
> Acetonetied putting a Philips head driver and hammering it to break the 
> bond, no luck.
> 
> Scared to try torch heat because of the proximity to the hull and do not have 
> an impact driver but may get one.
> 
> Anyone have any experience with this?
> 
> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C 32 - #277
>> Halifax, N.S.
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[WILLIAM WALKER via CnC-List]

Impact will get it...no worries.
On Tuesday, June 2, 2020 Robert Abbott via CnC-List  
wrote:
 Mike, 
 I have been applying the both the PB Blaster and 50% ATF - 50% Acetone 
solution on the stanchion and screw for the past month.time is not going to 
loosen it.
 
 I need an 'impact screw driver'.
 
 And Mike, if you put your launch order in, it will be in the water today.
 
 Rob
 
 
 
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How long did you leave the PB Blaster before trying?  A mechanic once told me 
that when changing hub assemblies they put vehicle on hoist and spray the areas 
last thing before going home for the night and then work on it the next 
morning.  Having replaced right and left front wheel hubs on my former 
Silverado using that method on one side and not waiting many hours on the other 
I can attest to this trick being helpful.
 
  
 
PS.  Rob … I put in the launch order.  Am almost exactly 2 months behind 
schedule this year
 
  
 
Mike
 
  
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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

My order was for later this week.  I want to attack cradle with a wire brush in 
my cordless drill and then paint it.  Cradle is 6 years old and has only been 
repainted once.  After boat gets launched I always forget about the cradle

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Robert Abbott via 
CnC-List
Sent: June 2, 2020 9:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Abbott 
Subject: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

Mike,
I have been applying the both the PB Blaster and 50% ATF - 50% Acetone solution 
on the stanchion and screw for the past month.time is not going to loosen 
it.

I need an 'impact screw driver'.

And Mike, if you put your launch order in, it will be in the water today.

Rob


On 6/2/2020 9:47 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:
How long did you leave the PB Blaster before trying?  A mechanic once told me 
that when changing hub assemblies they put vehicle on hoist and spray the areas 
last thing before going home for the night and then work on it the next 
morning.  Having replaced right and left front wheel hubs on my former 
Silverado using that method on one side and not waiting many hours on the other 
I can attest to this trick being helpful.

PS.  Rob … I put in the launch order.  Am almost exactly 2 months behind 
schedule this year

Mike


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Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

Mike,
I have been applying the both the PB Blaster and 50% ATF - 50% Acetone 
solution on the stanchion and screw for the past month.time is not 
going to loosen it.


I need an 'impact screw driver'.

And Mike, if you put your launch order in, it will be in the water today.

Rob



On 6/2/2020 9:47 AM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List wrote:


How long did you leave the PB Blaster before trying?  A mechanic once 
told me that when changing hub assemblies they put vehicle on hoist 
and spray the areas last thing before going home for the night and 
then work on it the next morning. Having replaced right and left front 
wheel hubs on my former Silverado using that method on one side and 
not waiting many hours on the other I can attest to this trick being 
helpful.


PS. Rob … I put in the launch order.  Am almost exactly 2 months 
behind schedule this year


Mike




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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Rob

Order one online.  It should arrive in about a month …

Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS

From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Robert Abbott via 
CnC-List
Sent: June 1, 2020 11:11 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Abbott 
Subject: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

Dennis,

Thanks...I watched a few videos with the good results of an impact 
driverhave a lot of tools but I don't have one of those...not yet.

Thanks again.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
   Halifax, N.S.
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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

How long did you leave the PB Blaster before trying?  A mechanic once told me 
that when changing hub assemblies they put vehicle on hoist and spray the areas 
last thing before going home for the night and then work on it the next 
morning.  Having replaced right and left front wheel hubs on my former 
Silverado using that method on one side and not waiting many hours on the other 
I can attest to this trick being helpful.

PS.  Rob … I put in the launch order.  Am almost exactly 2 months behind 
schedule this year

Mike


From: CnC-List  On Behalf Of Dennis C. via 
CnC-List
Sent: June 1, 2020 10:42 PM
To: CnClist 
Cc: Dennis C. 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

I've had good luck with a hand impact driver.  Just be sure you hold it tight 
to the screw head while you whack it or you'll mess up the screw head.

Used to work on motorcycles a lot.  Hand impact driver was my best friend.

Dennis C.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 8:21 PM Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I want to remove a stanchion but the SS screw in the toe rail into the
stanchion is seized .I have applied PB Blaster, 50% ATF - 50%
Acetonetied putting a Philips head driver and hammering it to break
the bond, no luck.

Scared to try torch heat because of the proximity to the hull and do not
have an impact driver but may get one.

Anyone have any experience with this?


> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S.
>
>


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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Neil Andersen via CnC-List]

Rob,

>From one 32 owner to another - my ‘82 stanchions screws are not threaded into 
>the base, but into the stanchion itself.  I had a couple that were bent from a 
>move and I had to replace them.  Needed to drill and tap them which was 
>actually easy to do.

Neil Andersen
1982 C 32, FoxFire
Rock Hall, MD 21661

From: CnC-List  on behalf of Robert Abbott via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, June 1, 2020 10:49 PM
Cc: Robert Abbott
Subject: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

Thanks all,

Just looked at the local Home Depot website...they have an impact screw
driver in stock.. ordered itjust what a SS screw seized in an
aluminum stanchion base needs.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.


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Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

Thanks all,

Just looked at the local Home Depot website...they have an impact screw 
driver in stock.. ordered itjust what a SS screw seized in an 
aluminum stanchion base needs.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.


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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

Hi Rob,

It is best to heed the advice of Dennis.

Use a hand impact driver to get it loose. Then 
maybe hit it with one of the recommended electric tools just for fun.


If you strip the head then the only option is a 
nice bit o' drilling. Which isn't all that bad 
since you will have a nice little pilot "dish". 
And drill at or just slightly less than shank diameter so you can re-tap.


Cheers, Russ


At 06:42 PM 6/1/2020, you wrote:
I've had good luck with a hand impact 
driver.  Just be sure you hold it tight to the 
screw head while you whack it or you'll mess up the screw head.


Used to work on motorcycles a lot.  Hand impact driver was my best friend.

Dennis C.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 8:21 PM Robert Abbott via 
CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I want to remove a stanchion but the SS screw in the toe rail into the
stanchion is seized .I have applied PB Blaster, 50% ATF - 50%
Acetonetied putting a Philips head driver and hammering it to break
the bond, no luck.

Scared to try torch heat because of the proximity to the hull and do not
have an impact driver but may get one.

Anyone have any experience with this?


> Rob Abbott
> AZURA
> C 32 - #277
> Halifax, N.S.
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[David Knecht via CnC-List]

Absolutely worth buying an impact driver.  I have a little Makita portable and 
I use it all the time as an electric screwdriver and impact driver.  It is 
especially good with stuck stainless screws in aluminum that I thought would be 
impossible to loosen.  Has rarely failed where a standard driver would ruin the 
slots.  Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C 34+
New London, CT



> On Jun 1, 2020, at 10:11 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dennis, 
> 
> Thanks...I watched a few videos with the good results of an impact 
> driverhave a lot of tools but I don't have one of those...not yet.
> 
> Thanks again. 
>> 
>> Rob Abbott
>> AZURA
>> C 32 - #277
>Halifax, N.S.
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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

Robert,

Home Depot has some special sales on power tools. I think they had  Ryobi 
impact driver for something like $39 (CAD) (tool only).

Marek
Ottawa, ON


 Original message 
From: Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
Date: 2020-06-01 22:11 (GMT-05:00)
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Robert Abbott 
Subject: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

Dennis,

Thanks...I watched a few videos with the good results of an impact 
driverhave a lot of tools but I don't have one of those...not yet.

Thanks again.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
   Halifax, N.S.
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Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

Dennis,

Thanks...I watched a few videos with the good results of an impact 
driverhave a lot of tools but I don't have one of those...not yet.


Thanks again.



Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277


   Halifax, N.S.
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Re: Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Dennis C. via CnC-List]

I've had good luck with a hand impact driver.  Just be sure you hold it
tight to the screw head while you whack it or you'll mess up the screw head.

Used to work on motorcycles a lot.  Hand impact driver was my best friend.

Dennis C.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2020 at 8:21 PM Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I want to remove a stanchion but the SS screw in the toe rail into the
> stanchion is seized .I have applied PB Blaster, 50% ATF - 50%
> Acetonetied putting a Philips head driver and hammering it to break
> the bond, no luck.
>
> Scared to try torch heat because of the proximity to the hull and do not
> have an impact driver but may get one.
>
> Anyone have any experience with this?
>
>
> > Rob Abbott
> > AZURA
> > C 32 - #277
> > Halifax, N.S.
> >
> >
>
>
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Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
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Stus-List Seized SS Screw

[Robert Abbott via CnC-List]

I want to remove a stanchion but the SS screw in the toe rail into the 
stanchion is seized .I have applied PB Blaster, 50% ATF - 50% 
Acetonetied putting a Philips head driver and hammering it to break 
the bond, no luck.


Scared to try torch heat because of the proximity to the hull and do not 
have an impact driver but may get one.


Anyone have any experience with this?



Rob Abbott
AZURA
C 32 - #277
Halifax, N.S.





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