Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Here is a software package that boots off of a flash drive.  No need to
install.  Lightweight linux and OpenCPN plus some other goodies.

http://marinux.pk973.org/#XINUTOP

Josh
On Sep 10, 2015 11:24 AM, "Joel Aronson via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Just saw this open source plotter:
>
> http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter
>
> Have not tried it.
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Juno via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
>> good thought...  wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol
>>
>> DJH
>> On Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>, Sep 10, 2015 7:18
>> AM wrote:
>>
>> You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google
>> account is linked to.  Just go to the app store and select "my apps".  In
>> retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was
>> common between my wife and i.  As it stands now she would have to buy the
>> apps or i would have to sync my personal account to her device.  This might
>> be a good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account just
>> for the boat.  That way all of the google services can be segregated to the
>> boat and shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that
>> account.  (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.)
>>
>> Josh
>> On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that,
>>> and navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install,  last night
>>> onto the Samsung galaxy 3.  So far, they both look great.  I believe I can
>>> get these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now.  So, I think I'm going to
>>> try that next.
>>>
>>> DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Kevin,
>>> >
>>> > Great suggestion on Boat Beacon.  Just downloaded it.  Thanks!
>>> >
>>> > David F. Risch
>>> > (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 
>>> > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 +
>>> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>>> > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>> > CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com
>>> >
>>> > + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and
>>> Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa
>>> Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for
>>> redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me
>>> notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA
>>> information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is
>>> also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was
>>> $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD
>>> Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7"
>>> Tablet.
>>> >
>>> > Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your
>>> MMSI #) and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell
>>> service (when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld
>>> GPS (with outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled
>>> GPS/Chartplotters)
>>> >
>>> > If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or
>>> two phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles,
>>> bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious
>>> weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having
>>> the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than
>>> additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your
>>> boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet
>>> with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are
>>> delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out
>>> there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila, who has been
>>> using iPad Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn
>>> and a number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents.
>>> >
>>> > Congratulations on your (almost)

Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Joe Della Barba via CnC-List]

Actually I do too. The old 600s I have use Pentium IIs at 300 blazing MHz.

I have a T-41 too that runs Mint Linux my wife uses for general web browsing. 

I looked at that “open source” plotter. You can run OpenCPN on all manner of 
devices, but as soon as you try and buy a daylight readable waterproof display 
you just spent a lot more money than just buying a commercial marine plotter 
would cost.

My next experiment is probably going to involve getting my wife a better 
machine, retired the 600, and running OpenCPN from a Mint boot USB stick on the 
T-41. I also got a Standard-Horizon CP-180 I am trying to figure out how to 
mount.

 

Joe Della Barba

j...@dellabarba.com <mailto:j...@dellabarba.com> 

 

COQUINA

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Melody via CnC-List
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2015 12:25 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

 


A solution for geeks? A quick glance shows it's OpenCPN running on a fruit 
pie...

My solution is similar to Joe's, an old Thinkpad T-42 running Open CPN and with 
Nobeltec & CM93 charts. Internet option (wifi) disabled. The big difference is 
that I have a modern OS, XP, and something called a Pentium core processor :) 

Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1

At 08:24 AM 10/09/2015, you wrote:



Just saw this open source plotter:

http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter

Have not tried it.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Juno via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

good thought...  wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol

DJH

On Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> >, Sep 10, 2015 7:18 AM wrote:

You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google 
account is linked to.  Just go to the app store and select "my apps".  In 
retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was 
common between my wife and i.  As it stands now she would have to buy the apps 
or i would have to sync my personal account to her device.  This might be a 
good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account just for the 
boat.  That way all of the google services can be segregated to the boat and 
shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that account.  (Apps, 
Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.)

Josh 

On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and 
navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install,  last night onto the 
Samsung galaxy 3.  So far, they both look great.  I believe I can get these 
onto the G Tab for no extra cost now.  So, I think I'm going to try that next.

DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote:

> 

> Kevin,

> 

> Great suggestion on Boat Beacon.  Just downloaded it.  Thanks!

> 

> David F. Risch

> (401) 419-4650 <tel:%28401%29%20419-4650>  (cell)

> 

> 

> ____

> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 +

> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 

> Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 

> CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com <mailto:kevindrisc...@gmail.com> 

> 

> + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and Android 
> Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa Coasts and 
> in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for redundancy and 
> with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me notification and/or 
> automatically update charts whenever new NOAA information is available (a 
> huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is also integral with both apps. MX 
> Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was $20 for charts of all of Northern 
> CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, 
> but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" Tablet.

> 

> Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI #) 
> and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service (when 
> I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS (with 
> outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled GPS/Chartplotters)Â 

> 

> If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two 
> phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles, 
> bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious 
> weak link in the system to me

Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

There are several "computers on a stick" - Windows computers on a USB key
sized device from Intel and Lenovo.  If I already had a TV or monitor I
would consider that as a solution for the nav station.

Joel

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Joe Della Barba via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Actually I do too. The old 600s I have use Pentium IIs at 300 blazing MHz.
>
> I have a T-41 too that runs Mint Linux my wife uses for general web
> browsing.
>
> I looked at that “open source” plotter. You can run OpenCPN on all manner
> of devices, but as soon as you try and buy a daylight readable waterproof
> display you just spent a lot more money than just buying a commercial
> marine plotter would cost.
>
> My next experiment is probably going to involve getting my wife a better
> machine, retired the 600, and running OpenCPN from a Mint boot USB stick on
> the T-41. I also got a Standard-Horizon CP-180 I am trying to figure out
> how to mount.
>
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
> j...@dellabarba.com
>
>
>
> COQUINA
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Russ
> & Melody via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Friday, September 11, 2015 12:25 AM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Russ & Melody <russ...@telus.net>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>
>
>
>
> A solution for geeks? A quick glance shows it's OpenCPN running on a fruit
> pie...
>
> My solution is similar to Joe's, an old Thinkpad T-42 running Open CPN and
> with Nobeltec & CM93 charts. Internet option (wifi) disabled. The big
> difference is that I have a modern OS, XP, and something called a Pentium
> core processor :)
>
> Cheers, Russ
> *Sweet *35 mk-1
>
> At 08:24 AM 10/09/2015, you wrote:
>
> Just saw this open source plotter:
>
> http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter
>
> Have not tried it.
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Juno via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> good thought...  wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol
>
> DJH
>
> On Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>, Sep 10, 2015 7:18
> AM wrote:
>
> You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google
> account is linked to.  Just go to the app store and select "my apps".  In
> retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was
> common between my wife and i.  As it stands now she would have to buy the
> apps or i would have to sync my personal account to her device.  This
> might be a good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account
> just for the boat.  That way all of the google services can be segregated
> to the boat and shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that
> account.  (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.)
>
> Josh
>
> On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and
> navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install,  last night onto
> the Samsung galaxy 3.  So far, they both look great.  I believe I can get
> these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now.  So, I think I'm going to try
> that next.
>
> DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Kevin,
>
> >
>
> > Great suggestion on Boat Beacon.  Just downloaded it.  Thanks!
>
> >
>
> > David F. Risch
>
> > (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 
>
> > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 +
>
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>
> > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>
> > CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com
>
> >
>
> > + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and
> Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa
> Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for
> redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me
> notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA
> information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is
> also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was
> $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD
> Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7"
> Tablet.
>
> >
>
> > Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends

Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google
account is linked to.  Just go to the app store and select "my apps".  In
retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was
common between my wife and i.  As it stands now she would have to buy the
apps or i would have to sync my personal account to her device.  This might
be a good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account just
for the boat.  That way all of the google services can be segregated to the
boat and shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that
account.  (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.)

Josh
On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and
> navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install,  last night onto
> the Samsung galaxy 3.  So far, they both look great.  I believe I can get
> these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now.  So, I think I'm going to try
> that next.
>
> DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Kevin,
> >
> > Great suggestion on Boat Beacon.  Just downloaded it.  Thanks!
> >
> > David F. Risch
> > (401) 419-4650 (cell)
> >
> >
> > ____________
> > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 +
> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
> > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> > CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com
> >
> > + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and
> Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa
> Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for
> redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me
> notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA
> information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is
> also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was
> $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD
> Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7"
> Tablet.
> >
> > Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI
> #) and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service
> (when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS
> (with outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled
> GPS/Chartplotters)
> >
> > If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two
> phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles,
> bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious
> weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having
> the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than
> additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your
> boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet
> with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are
> delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out
> there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila, who has been
> using iPad Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn
> and a number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents.
> >
> > Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all
> works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite
> lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too.
> >>
> >> The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to
> waterproof, it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a
> plotter. My old beast draws around 4-5 amps.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of
> Joel Aronson via CnC-List
> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM
> >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> >> Cc: Joel Aronson
> >>
> >>
> >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Download  OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS
> dongle and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon.  $50 should cover the dongle
> and power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet.
> >&g

Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and 
navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install,  last night onto the 
Samsung galaxy 3.  So far, they both look great.  I believe I can get these 
onto the G Tab for no extra cost now.  So, I think I'm going to try that next.

DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Kevin,
>
> Great suggestion on Boat Beacon.  Just downloaded it.  Thanks!
>
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> 
> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 +
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com
>
> + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and Android 
> Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa Coasts and 
> in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for redundancy and 
> with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me notification and/or 
> automatically update charts whenever new NOAA information is available (a 
> huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is also integral with both apps. MX 
> Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was $20 for charts of all of Northern 
> CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, 
> but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" Tablet.
>
> Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI #) 
> and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service (when 
> I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS (with 
> outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled GPS/Chartplotters) 
>
> If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two 
> phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles, 
> bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious 
> weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having 
> the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than 
> additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your 
> boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet 
> with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are 
> delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out 
> there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila, who has been using 
> iPad Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn and a 
> number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents. 
>
> Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all works 
>> great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite lacking. 
>> OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too.
>>
>> The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, it 
>> isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old beast 
>> draws around 4-5 amps.
>>
>>  
>>
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel 
>> Aronson via CnC-List
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Joel Aronson
>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Download  OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle 
>> and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon.  $50 should cover the dongle and power 
>> supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Danny,
>>
>> the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t see 
>> the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them several 
>> times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to navigate with 
>> since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the time, in my home 
>> waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this area for 40+ years 
>> and probably know the waters more accurately than the chart plotter anyway. 
>> I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck on sandbars because 
>> they followed the GPS instead of the marks!
>>
>>  
>>
>> James
>>
>> Delaney
>>
>> 1976 C 38
>>
>> Oriental, NC
>

Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Now Anchor Alarms

[Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List]

I tried Drag Queen after hearing good reviews. I found a free one called 
Anchor Lite that I like a whole lot better.


Bill Bina

On 9/9/2015 1:47 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List wrote:


Drag Queen for both by Active Captain

Bill Coleman

C 39  Erie PA

*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of 
*Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 09, 2015 1:06 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Kevin Driscoll
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

Which brings up another topic...anchor alarm apps for phone or tablet! 
There are many available and they do not use any power and do not need 
to be connected to cell service! (Though your plotter is probably 
fairly efficient Andrew)





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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Juno via CnC-List]

good thought...  wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol
DJH
On Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>, Sep 10, 2015 7:18 AM wrote:You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google account is linked to.  Just go to the app store and select "my apps".  In retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was common between my wife and i.  As it stands now she would have to buy the apps or i would have to sync my personal account to her device.  This might be a good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account just for the boat.  That way all of the google services can be segregated to the boat and shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that account.  (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.)
Josh 
On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install,  last night onto the Samsung galaxy 3.  So far, they both look great.  I believe I can get these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now.  So, I think I'm going to try that next.

DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Kevin,
>
> Great suggestion on Boat Beacon.  Just downloaded it.  Thanks!
>
> David F. Risch
> (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> 
> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 +0000
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com
>
> + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" Tablet.
>
> Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI #) and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service (when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS (with outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled GPS/Chartplotters) 
>
> If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles, bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila, who has been using iPad Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn and a number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents. 
>
> Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too.
>>
>> The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old beast draws around 4-5 amps.
>>
>>  
>>
>> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: Joel Aronson
>>
>>
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Download  OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon.  $50 should cover the dongle and power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Danny,
>>
>> the only GPS I c

Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Now Anchor Alarms

[Rick Brass via CnC-List]

Drag Queen is also free.

 

I suppose it's a matter of preference, and that newer software may be an
improvement over something as old as Drag Queen (which is probably 4 or 5
years old), but it is the app I rely on. I particularly like the ability to
set a radius from your anchor at which the alarm goes off.

 

Rick Brass

Washington, NC

 

 

 

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- gmail via CnC-List
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 8:58 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Bill Bina - gmail <billbinal...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter? Now Anchor Alarms

 

I tried Drag Queen after hearing good reviews. I found a free one called
Anchor Lite that I like a whole lot better.

Bill Bina

On 9/9/2015 1:47 PM, Bill Coleman via CnC-List wrote:

Drag Queen for both by Active Captain

 

 

Bill Coleman

C 39  Erie PA

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Cc: Kevin Driscoll
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

 

Which brings up another topic...anchor alarm apps for phone or tablet! There
are many available and they do not use any power and do not need to be
connected to cell service! (Though your plotter is probably fairly efficient
Andrew)

 

 

 

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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Just saw this open source plotter:

http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter

Have not tried it.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Juno via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> good thought...  wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol
>
> DJH
> On Josh Muckley via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>, Sep 10, 2015 7:18
> AM wrote:
>
> You should be able to install the apps on to whatever devices your google
> account is linked to.  Just go to the app store and select "my apps".  In
> retrospect i wish i had purchased my boating apps on an account which was
> common between my wife and i.  As it stands now she would have to buy the
> apps or i would have to sync my personal account to her device.  This might
> be a good time for you to consider creating a special Gmail account just
> for the boat.  That way all of the google services can be segregated to the
> boat and shared or unshared to other devices simply by adding that
> account.  (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.)
>
> Josh
> On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps are free after that, and
>> navionics for $10, maps seemed to come with the install,  last night onto
>> the Samsung galaxy 3.  So far, they both look great.  I believe I can get
>> these onto the G Tab for no extra cost now.  So, I think I'm going to try
>> that next.
>>
>> DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Kevin,
>> >
>> > Great suggestion on Boat Beacon.  Just downloaded it.  Thanks!
>> >
>> > David F. Risch
>> > (401) 419-4650 (cell)
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> > Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 +
>> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>> > From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> > CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com
>> >
>> > + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and
>> Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa
>> Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for
>> redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me
>> notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA
>> information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is
>> also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was
>> $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD
>> Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7"
>> Tablet.
>> >
>> > Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your
>> MMSI #) and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell
>> service (when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld
>> GPS (with outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled
>> GPS/Chartplotters)
>> >
>> > If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or
>> two phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles,
>> bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious
>> weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having
>> the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than
>> additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your
>> boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet
>> with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are
>> delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out
>> there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila, who has been
>> using iPad Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn
>> and a number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents.
>> >
>> > Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all
>> works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite
>> lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too.
>> >>
>> >> The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to
>> waterproof, it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power 

Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Russ & Melody via CnC-List]

A solution for geeks? A quick glance shows it's 
OpenCPN running on a fruit pie...


My solution is similar to Joe's, an old Thinkpad 
T-42 running Open CPN and with Nobeltec & CM93 
charts. Internet option (wifi) disabled. The big 
difference is that I have a modern OS, XP, and 
something called a Pentium core processor :)


Cheers, Russ
Sweet 35 mk-1

At 08:24 AM 10/09/2015, you wrote:

Just saw this open source plotter:

<http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter>http://www.sailoog.com/en/openplotter

Have not tried it.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 7:29 AM, Juno via 
CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


good thought...  wish I had thought of that about 8 hours ago...lol

DJH
On Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
<<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com>, 
Sep 10, 2015 7:18 AM wrote:


You should be able to install the apps on to 
whatever devices your google account is linked 
to.  Just go to the app store and select "my 
apps".  In retrospect i wish i had purchased my 
boating apps on an account which was common 
between my wife and i.  As it stands now she 
would have to buy the apps or i would have to 
sync my personal account to her device.  This 
might be a good time for you to consider 
creating a special Gmail account just for the 
boat.  That way all of the google services can 
be segregated to the boat and shared or unshared 
to other devices simply by adding that 
account.  (Apps, Drive, email, blogs, youtube, etc.)


Josh
On Sep 10, 2015 6:44 AM, "Danny Haughey via 
CnC-List" <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
OK, so I downloaded MX mariner for $15, the maps 
are free after that, and navionics for $10, maps 
seemed to come with the install,  last night 
onto the Samsung galaxy 3.  So far, they both 
look great.  I believe I can get these onto the 
G Tab for no extra cost now.  So, I think I'm going to try that next.


DannyOn Sep 9, 2015 2:17 PM, David via CnC-List 
<<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>
> Kevin,
>
> Great suggestion on Boat Beacon.  Just downloaded it.  Thanks!
>
> David F. Risch
> <tel:%28401%29%20419-4650>(401) 419-4650 (cell)
>
>
> ____
> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 +0000
> To: <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
> From: <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> CC: <mailto:kevindrisc...@gmail.com>kevindrisc...@gmail.com
>
> + 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on 
my 7" android tablet and Android Phone for 3 
years in tights spots and up and down the 
Oregon + Wa Coasts and in the San Juans. I also 
have Navionics on both devices for redundancy 
and with have charts downloaded on both. These 
apps send me notification and/or automatically 
update charts whenever new NOAA information is 
available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active 
Captain is also integral with both apps. MX 
Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was $20 
for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, 
Washington and San Juans. HD Navionics was 
$50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7" Tablet.

>
> Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon 
which sends(with your MMSI #) and receives AIS 
info. It does this only when connected to cell 
service (when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I 
do also have an old handheld GPS (with outdated 
charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled GPS/Chartplotters)Â

>
> If I were you Danny, I would load up your 
android tablet, and one or two phones with 
apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO 
the dongles, bluetooth adapters etc, add 
complexity and expense and seem like an obvious 
weak link in the system to me, as well as the 
battery drain, and not having the 
plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will 
always be cheaper than additional hardware. But 
you can worry about that or not, when you get 
your boat home! BTW, you'll find that most 
delivery skippers only use a Tablet with 
Navionics because they can't trust the systems 
on the boats they are delivering. And a plug 
for one of the only boats/blogs that are really 
out there doing real sailing and not island 
hopping:Â s/v Sila, who has been using iPad 
Tablets successfully for years now, including 
around Cape Horn and a number of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents.Â

>
> Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, 
Joe via CnC-List <<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

>>
>> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and 
OpenCPN for years and it all works great. You 
get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters 
seem quite lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are 

Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Tom Anderson via CnC-List]

Danny,
If you own an iPad with a GPS built in ie a 3G model, all you need to do is buy 
a Navionics app or sim ilia and you are all set for your trip and any other 
future trips too.  I like Navionics enough that I keep a dedicated iPad for the 
boat aboard in a Griffinmilitary spec case.  Works great!

Tom Anderson
C 32 Nonpareil 
Marblehead, ma

> On Sep 8, 2015, at 8:42 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote:
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 21:03:54 GMT
> From: "Danny Haughey" <djhaug...@juno.com>
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Subject: Stus-List  Windows laptop for chartplotter?
> Message-ID: <20150908.170354.3237...@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
> 
> Hi Guys, The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have 
> chartplotter.  Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the 
> delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS 
> antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I think 
> I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for $169. I have 
> windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb ram and I 
> have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. Is this a viable 
> option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good deal on a 
> plotter over the off season? It would also be a carry on and use and 
> alleviate the need to install anything before the trip. Any and all advice is 
> always appreciated! DannyStill headed toward a closingMassachusetts

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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

So what I have available fur older devices is.  An old android Samsung galaxy 3 
phone and a waterproof case, an old android viewsonic G-tab tablet, no 
protective case and a not to old dell venue pro tablet with windows 10, this 
has a rugged case but not water proof, water resistant and it charges through a 
mini USB.  It has the detachable keyboard.

I see the garmin 78 for $169. Not sure if that has charts.  That might be the 
quick fix for getting home and a good backup item.  I think ultimately I might 
go fur the raynarine e7 radar combo as the prices are dropping and the wind 
speed and depth instruments are new Raymarine i60 units.  

I would love to recommission the android tablet for use on board as an 
experiment.  On Sep 8, 2015 11:05 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> If I may suggest, a Bluetooth GPS puck might be a better option (a tablet has 
> probably very limited USB ports). If you have a GPS dongle, get yourself a 
> USB2Go cable that would let you connect a normal USB device (low power, 
> though) to a MicroUSB port that is normally available on a tablet.
>
>  
>
> A tablet would not need (normally) more than about 2 A for power supply (at 5 
> V). There are many options for supplying that 5 V (USB voltage) from a 12 V 
> DC.
>
>  
>
> Software-wise, you might be better off with an Android, iOS or Linux (plenty 
> of no cost or low cost apps). For Windows, applications are more limited in 
> that category.
>
>  
>
> Before you go, check if your application is easy enough to operate in tablet 
> mode (i.e. by touch). I find that some of the Windows applications are 
> difficult to operate without a mouse and/or keyboard. I use a small BT mouse 
> that can double up as a trackball (when space or table surface is at a 
> premium) and a BT keyboard. Keep in mind that those two are even less water 
> proof than the tablet itself.
>
>  
>
> If you use a tablet I would recommend upgrading to Win 10.
>
>  
>
> Marek
>
> C270, Legato
>
> In Ottawa.
>
>  
>
>  
>
> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh 
> Muckley via CnC-List
> Sent: September-08-15 17:20
> To: C List
> Cc: Josh Muckley
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>
>  
>
> Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious.  The NOAA website has all 
> of their charts available in vector and raster formats.  They also have links 
> to free and paid software for viewing the charts.  You'll need to provide a 
> GPS input.  There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest 
> and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle.
>
> A laptop is very power hungry.  The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps.  
> It's worse if you have to use an inverter.  12v chargers can often be found 
> on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10.
>
> Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof.
>
> PM me if you need more info.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
>  
>
> The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter.  
> Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was 
> thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and 
> charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I think I'd get a cheap 
> handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for $169.
>
>  
>
> I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb ram 
> and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age.
>
>  
>
> Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good 
> deal on a plotter over the off season?
>
>  
>
> It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install 
> anything before the trip.
>
>  
>
> Any and all advice is always appreciated!
>
>  
>
> Danny
>
> Still headed toward a closing
>
> Massachusetts
>
>
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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List]

Danny

Purchase Navionics Boating HD for your tablet while it is still available.  It 
is supposed to be discontinued very soon and may have been discontinued already

We have a Garmin GPSMAP 740 at the helm.  It is extremely useful when going 
anywhere and on the size boat you are purchasing is almost a necessity.  A 
tablet in the cockpit is not nearly so robust and very prone to breakage and 
power loss, especially in any sea condition

We just returned from the Bras d'Ors Lakes in Cape Breton, NS.  The total 
return delivery was approx. 170NM.  I have a Windows Surface 2 (RT version) 
with the Boating HD app.  This in fact is now permitted to be on board in place 
of paper charts as is the same charting information.  We also had all the paper 
charts along the way and also a Raymarine A65 small chartplotter at the Nav 
station.  For plotting my courses I used the Surface tablet and then noted each 
of the waypoints and plugged them into my chartplotters.  I found using the 
tablet for course plotting extremely useful and much simpler than the paper 
chart with dividers etc ...  I also found that having the waypoints in my 
chartplotter at helm almost a necessity.

My 0.02

Mike
Persistence
1987 Frers 33
Halifax, NS

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Danny 
Haughey via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:04 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Danny Haughey
Subject: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

Hi Guys,

The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter.  
Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was 
thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and 
charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I think I'd get a cheap 
handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for $169.

I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb ram and 
I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age.

Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good 
deal on a plotter over the off season?

It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install anything 
before the trip.

Any and all advice is always appreciated!

Danny
Still headed toward a closing
Massachusetts
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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

MX Mariner for Android devices.  Free charts and works with active captain.

Josh
On Sep 9, 2015 6:57 AM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> So what I have available fur older devices is.  An old android Samsung
> galaxy 3 phone and a waterproof case, an old android viewsonic G-tab
> tablet, no protective case and a not to old dell venue pro tablet with
> windows 10, this has a rugged case but not water proof, water resistant and
> it charges through a mini USB.  It has the detachable keyboard.
>
> I see the garmin 78 for $169. Not sure if that has charts.  That might be
> the quick fix for getting home and a good backup item.  I think ultimately
> I might go fur the raynarine e7 radar combo as the prices are dropping and
> the wind speed and depth instruments are new Raymarine i60 units.
>
> I would love to recommission the android tablet for use on board as an
> experiment.  On Sep 8, 2015 11:05 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > If I may suggest, a Bluetooth GPS puck might be a better option (a
> tablet has probably very limited USB ports). If you have a GPS dongle, get
> yourself a USB2Go cable that would let you connect a normal USB device (low
> power, though) to a MicroUSB port that is normally available on a tablet.
> >
> >
> >
> > A tablet would not need (normally) more than about 2 A for power supply
> (at 5 V). There are many options for supplying that 5 V (USB voltage) from
> a 12 V DC.
> >
> >
> >
> > Software-wise, you might be better off with an Android, iOS or Linux
> (plenty of no cost or low cost apps). For Windows, applications are more
> limited in that category.
> >
> >
> >
> > Before you go, check if your application is easy enough to operate in
> tablet mode (i.e. by touch). I find that some of the Windows applications
> are difficult to operate without a mouse and/or keyboard. I use a small BT
> mouse that can double up as a trackball (when space or table surface is at
> a premium) and a BT keyboard. Keep in mind that those two are even less
> water proof than the tablet itself.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you use a tablet I would recommend upgrading to Win 10.
> >
> >
> >
> > Marek
> >
> > C270, Legato
> >
> > In Ottawa.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh
> Muckley via CnC-List
> > Sent: September-08-15 17:20
> > To: C List
> > Cc: Josh Muckley
> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious.  The NOAA website has
> all of their charts available in vector and raster formats.  They also have
> links to free and paid software for viewing the charts.  You'll need to
> provide a GPS input.  There are lots of options (long term and short) but
> the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle.
> >
> > A laptop is very power hungry.  The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5
> amps.  It's worse if you have to use an inverter.  12v chargers can often
> be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10.
> >
> > Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof.
> >
> > PM me if you need more info.
> >
> > Josh Muckley
> > S/V Sea Hawk
> > 1989 C 37+
> > Solomons, MD
> >
> > On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> >
> >
> > The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have
> chartplotter.  Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the
> delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS
> antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I think
> I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for $169.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb
> ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a
> good deal on a plotter over the off season?
> >
> >
> >
> > It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install
> anything before the trip.
> >
> >
> >
> > Any and all advice is always appreciated!
> >
> >
> >
> > Danny
> >
> > Still headed toward a closing
> >
> > Massachusetts
> >
> >
> > 

Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Pete Shelquist via CnC-List]

Danny – 

The advice Mike gives re: 740 is very good.   Coincidently, I also happen to 
have one for sale.  

 

Pete

 

 

 

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote:

From: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com>
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
Cc: 
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 12:34:49 +
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

Danny

 

Purchase Navionics Boating HD for your tablet while it is still available.  It 
is supposed to be discontinued very soon and may have been discontinued already

 

We have a Garmin GPSMAP 740 at the helm.  It is extremely useful when going 
anywhere and on the size boat you are purchasing is almost a necessity.  A 
tablet in the cockpit is not nearly so robust and very prone to breakage and 
power loss, especially in any sea condition

 

We just returned from the Bras d’Ors Lakes in Cape Breton, NS.  The total 
return delivery was approx. 170NM.  I have a Windows Surface 2 (RT version) 
with the Boating HD app.  This in fact is now permitted to be on board in place 
of paper charts as is the same charting information.  We also had all the paper 
charts along the way and also a Raymarine A65 small chartplotter at the Nav 
station.  For plotting my courses I used the Surface tablet and then noted each 
of the waypoints and plugged them into my chartplotters.  I found using the 
tablet for course plotting extremely useful and much simpler than the paper 
chart with dividers etc …  I also found that having the waypoints in my 
chartplotter at helm almost a necessity.  

 

My 0.02

 

Mike

Persistence

1987 Frers 33

Halifax, NS

 

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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Patrick Davin via CnC-List]

Navionics is discontinuing Boating HD?  I haven't heard anything of this.
Do you mean just the HD version? Navionics is very much alive and working
on my tablet.

I bought the non-HD version for my N10, because it was cheaper and the
resolution is just fine. Plus I share it across my Android phone and 2nd
tablet (an N7).

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM, <cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> From: "Hoyt, Mike" <mike.h...@impgroup.com>
> To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 12:34:49 +
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>
> Danny
>
>
>
> Purchase Navionics Boating HD for your tablet while it is still
> available.  It is supposed to be discontinued very soon and may have been
> discontinued already
>
>
>
> We have a Garmin GPSMAP 740 at the helm.  It is extremely useful when
> going anywhere and on the size boat you are purchasing is almost a
> necessity.  A tablet in the cockpit is not nearly so robust and very prone
> to breakage and power loss, especially in any sea condition
>
>
>
> We just returned from the Bras d’Ors Lakes in Cape Breton, NS.  The total
> return delivery was approx. 170NM.  I have a Windows Surface 2 (RT version)
> with the Boating HD app.  This in fact is now permitted to be on board in
> place of paper charts as is the same charting information.  We also had all
> the paper charts along the way and also a Raymarine A65 small chartplotter
> at the Nav station.  For plotting my courses I used the Surface tablet and
> then noted each of the waypoints and plugged them into my chartplotters.  I
> found using the tablet for course plotting extremely useful and much
> simpler than the paper chart with dividers etc …  I also found that having
> the waypoints in my chartplotter at helm almost a necessity.
>
>
>
> My 0.02
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Persistence
>
> 1987 Frers 33
>
> Halifax, NS
>
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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List]

I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all works 
great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite lacking. 
OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too.
The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, it 
isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old beast 
draws around 4-5 amps.

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

Download  OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle and 
buy a 12v power supply on Amazon.  $50 should cover the dongle and power supply 
- assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet.

Joel

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Danny,
the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t see 
the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them several 
times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to navigate with 
since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the time, in my home 
waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this area for 40+ years 
and probably know the waters more accurately than the chart plotter anyway. I 
can’t count the number of times I see people stuck on sandbars because they 
followed the GPS instead of the marks!

James
Delaney
1976 C 38
Oriental, NC

From: Josh Muckley via 
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Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM
To: C List<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>
Cc: Josh Muckley<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','muckl...@gmail.com');>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?


Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious.  The NOAA website has all of 
their charts available in vector and raster formats.  They also have links to 
free and paid software for viewing the charts.  You'll need to provide a GPS 
input.  There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest and 
easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle.

A laptop is very power hungry.  The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps.  
It's worse if you have to use an inverter.  12v chargers can often be found on 
amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10.

Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof.

PM me if you need more info.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>> 
wrote:
Hi Guys,

The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter.  
Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was 
thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and 
charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I think I'd get a cheap 
handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for $169.

I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb ram and 
I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age.

Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good 
deal on a plotter over the off season?

It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install anything 
before the trip.

Any and all advice is always appreciated!

Danny
Still headed toward a closing
Massachusetts

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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

Which brings up another topic...anchor alarm apps for phone or tablet!
There are many available and they do not use any power and do not need to
be connected to cell service! (Though your plotter is probably fairly
efficient Andrew)

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:01 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> A little bit of thread drift; I just installed a Raymarine e7D
> plotter/radar on Peregrine. I got it on sale at Defender for way less than
> $2K, including the radar antenna and wires. Just did a very foggy cruise to
> Grand Manan Island in New Brunswick and the whole unit worked a treat. One
> of the best features is that it transmits a wifi signal that I can get on
> my iPad so I can check my position from my bunk; this is really handy when
> I'm anchored and worried about dragging in the middle of the night.
>
> Andy
> C 40
> Peregrine
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all
>> works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite
>> lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too.
>>
>> The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof,
>> it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old
>> beast draws around 4-5 amps.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel
>> Aronson via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* Joel Aronson
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>>
>>
>>
>> Download  OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS
>> dongle and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon.  $50 should cover the dongle
>> and power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Danny,
>>
>> the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t
>> see the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them
>> several times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to
>> navigate with since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the
>> time, in my home waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this
>> area for 40+ years and probably know the waters more accurately than the
>> chart plotter anyway. I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck
>> on sandbars because they followed the GPS instead of the marks!
>>
>>
>>
>> James
>>
>> Delaney
>>
>> 1976 C 38
>>
>> Oriental, NC
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM
>>
>> *To:* C List
>>
>> *Cc:* Josh Muckley
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious.  The NOAA website has
>> all of their charts available in vector and raster formats.  They also have
>> links to free and paid software for viewing the charts.  You'll need to
>> provide a GPS input.  There are lots of options (long term and short) but
>> the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle.
>>
>> A laptop is very power hungry.  The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5
>> amps.  It's worse if you have to use an inverter.  12v chargers can often
>> be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10.
>>
>> Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof.
>>
>> PM me if you need more info.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>>
>>
>> The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have
>> chartplotter.  Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the
>> delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS
>> antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I think
>> I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for $169.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb
>> ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is this a viab

Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

your G-tab should have a GPS built in; same with the phone. The Dell Venue 
does not.


It seems that Navionics is the primary choice. It works on Android and does 
not need plenty of CPU power (at least once it is going).


The GPSMAP 78 most likely does not come with anything other than the global 
map which gives you very high level continent contours. Any charts would 
cost you plenty and they won't be compatible with any chartplotter you might 
purchase later.


Anyone tried the OsmAnd Nautical Charts (this is for Android)? I used their 
app as an off-line mapping app in Europe and it was fine, but I never had a 
chance to try their charts.


Marek

-Original Message- 
From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List

Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 6:56 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: djhaug...@juno.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

So what I have available fur older devices is.  An old android Samsung 
galaxy 3 phone and a waterproof case, an old android viewsonic G-tab tablet, 
no protective case and a not to old dell venue pro tablet with windows 10, 
this has a rugged case but not water proof, water resistant and it charges 
through a mini USB.  It has the detachable keyboard.


I see the garmin 78 for $169. Not sure if that has charts.  That might be 
the quick fix for getting home and a good backup item.  I think ultimately I 
might go fur the raynarine e7 radar combo as the prices are dropping and the 
wind speed and depth instruments are new Raymarine i60 units.


I would love to recommission the android tablet for use on board as an 
experiment.  On Sep 8, 2015 11:05 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


If I may suggest, a Bluetooth GPS puck might be a better option (a tablet 
has probably very limited USB ports). If you have a GPS dongle, get 
yourself a USB2Go cable that would let you connect a normal USB device 
(low power, though) to a MicroUSB port that is normally available on a 
tablet.




A tablet would not need (normally) more than about 2 A for power supply 
(at 5 V). There are many options for supplying that 5 V (USB voltage) from 
a 12 V DC.




Software-wise, you might be better off with an Android, iOS or Linux 
(plenty of no cost or low cost apps). For Windows, applications are more 
limited in that category.




Before you go, check if your application is easy enough to operate in 
tablet mode (i.e. by touch). I find that some of the Windows applications 
are difficult to operate without a mouse and/or keyboard. I use a small BT 
mouse that can double up as a trackball (when space or table surface is at 
a premium) and a BT keyboard. Keep in mind that those two are even less 
water proof than the tablet itself.




If you use a tablet I would recommend upgrading to Win 10.



Marek

C270, Legato

In Ottawa.





From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh 
Muckley via CnC-List

Sent: September-08-15 17:20
To: C List
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?



Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious.  The NOAA website has 
all of their charts available in vector and raster formats.  They also 
have links to free and paid software for viewing the charts.  You'll need 
to provide a GPS input.  There are lots of options (long term and short) 
but the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle.


A laptop is very power hungry.  The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 
amps.  It's worse if you have to use an inverter.  12v chargers can often 
be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10.


Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof.

PM me if you need more info.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD

On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:


Hi Guys,



The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have 
chartplotter.  Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the 
delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS 
antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I 
think I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for 
$169.




I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb 
ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age.




Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a 
good deal on a plotter over the off season?




It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install 
anything before the trip.




Any and all advice is always appreciated!



Danny

Still headed toward a closing

Massachusetts


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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Andrew Burton via CnC-List]

A little bit of thread drift; I just installed a Raymarine e7D
plotter/radar on Peregrine. I got it on sale at Defender for way less than
$2K, including the radar antenna and wires. Just did a very foggy cruise to
Grand Manan Island in New Brunswick and the whole unit worked a treat. One
of the best features is that it transmits a wifi signal that I can get on
my iPad so I can check my position from my bunk; this is really handy when
I'm anchored and worried about dragging in the middle of the night.

Andy
C 40
Peregrine

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all
> works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite
> lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too.
>
> The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof,
> it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old
> beast draws around 4-5 amps.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel
> Aronson via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>
>
>
> Download  OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle
> and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon.  $50 should cover the dongle and
> power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet.
>
>
>
> Joel
>
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> Danny,
>
> the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t
> see the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them
> several times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to
> navigate with since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the
> time, in my home waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this
> area for 40+ years and probably know the waters more accurately than the
> chart plotter anyway. I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck
> on sandbars because they followed the GPS instead of the marks!
>
>
>
> James
>
> Delaney
>
> 1976 C 38
>
> Oriental, NC
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM
>
> *To:* C List
>
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>
>
>
> Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious.  The NOAA website has
> all of their charts available in vector and raster formats.  They also have
> links to free and paid software for viewing the charts.  You'll need to
> provide a GPS input.  There are lots of options (long term and short) but
> the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle.
>
> A laptop is very power hungry.  The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5
> amps.  It's worse if you have to use an inverter.  12v chargers can often
> be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10.
>
> Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof.
>
> PM me if you need more info.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
>
>
> The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have
> chartplotter.  Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the
> delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS
> antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I think
> I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for $169.
>
>
>
> I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb
> ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age.
>
>
>
> Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a
> good deal on a plotter over the off season?
>
>
>
> It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install
> anything before the trip.
>
>
>
> Any and all advice is always appreciated!
>
>
>
> Danny
>
> Still headed toward a closing
>
> Massachusetts
>
>
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>
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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

One of the best (Android) apps is the Drag Queen. It got quite a good review 
in, I think, Practical Sailor.

The most important thing there is that the app has to be very simple to set-up. 
and it is.

Marek

From: Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List 
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 1:05 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: Kevin Driscoll 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

Which brings up another topic...anchor alarm apps for phone or tablet! There 
are many available and they do not use any power and do not need to be 
connected to cell service! (Though your plotter is probably fairly efficient 
Andrew)

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:01 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

  A little bit of thread drift; I just installed a Raymarine e7D plotter/radar 
on Peregrine. I got it on sale at Defender for way less than $2K, including the 
radar antenna and wires. Just did a very foggy cruise to Grand Manan Island in 
New Brunswick and the whole unit worked a treat. One of the best features is 
that it transmits a wifi signal that I can get on my iPad so I can check my 
position from my bunk; this is really handy when I'm anchored and worried about 
dragging in the middle of the night.


  Andy

  C 40

  Peregrine


  On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all 
works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite 
lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too. 

The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, 
it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old beast 
draws around 4-5 amps.



From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel 
Aronson via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson


Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?


Download  OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle 
and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon.  $50 should cover the dongle and power 
supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet.



Joel

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

Danny,

the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t 
see the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them several 
times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to navigate with 
since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the time, in my home 
waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this area for 40+ years 
and probably know the waters more accurately than the chart plotter anyway. I 
can’t count the number of times I see people stuck on sandbars because they 
followed the GPS instead of the marks!



James

Delaney

1976 C 38

Oriental, NC



From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 

Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM

To: C List 

Cc: Josh Muckley 

    Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?



Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious.  The NOAA website has all 
of their charts available in vector and raster formats.  They also have links 
to free and paid software for viewing the charts.  You'll need to provide a GPS 
input.  There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest and 
easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. 

A laptop is very power hungry.  The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps. 
 It's worse if you have to use an inverter.  12v chargers can often be found on 
amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10.

Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof.

PM me if you need more info.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD 

On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Hi Guys,



The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter. 
 Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was 
thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and 
charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I think I'd get a cheap 
handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for $169.



I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb ram 
and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age.



Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a 
good deal on a plotter over the off season?



It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install 
anything before the trip.



Any and all advice is always appreciated!



Danny

Still headed toward a closing

Massachusetts


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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[David via CnC-List]

Kevin,

Great suggestion on Boat Beacon.  Just downloaded it.  Thanks!

David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)


Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2015 16:31:20 +
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
CC: kevindrisc...@gmail.com

+ 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and Android 
Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa Coasts and in 
the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for redundancy and with 
have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me notification and/or 
automatically update charts whenever new NOAA information is available (a huge 
plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is also integral with both apps. MX 
Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was $20 for charts of all of Northern CA, 
Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but 
normal fidelity was fine on my 7" Tablet.
Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI #) and 
receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service (when I 
need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS (with outdated 
charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled GPS/Chartplotters) 
If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two phones 
with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles, bluetooth 
adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious weak link in 
the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having the 
plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than additional 
hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your boat home! 
BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet with Navionics 
because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are delivering. And a 
plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out there doing real 
sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila, who has been using iPad Tablets 
successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn and a number of oceanic 
crossings. My 2 cents. 

Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny!


On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:








I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all works 
great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite lacking. 
OpenCPN
 is free and all the charts are free too. 
The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, it 
isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old beast 
draws
 around 4-5 amps.
 
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com]
On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List

Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com

Cc: Joel Aronson

Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
 
Download  OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle and 
buy a 12v power supply on Amazon.  $50 should cover the dongle and power supply 
- assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet.

 


Joel



On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:




Danny,


the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t see 
the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them several 
times, but even then I
 found that I only used my handheld to navigate with since I am familiar and 
comfortable with it. Most of the time, in my home waters I don’t even use the 
handheld but I’ve sailed this area for 40+ years and probably know the waters 
more accurately than the
 chart plotter anyway. I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck on 
sandbars because they followed the GPS instead of the marks!


 


James


Delaney


1976 C 38


Oriental, NC




 



From:

Josh Muckley via CnC-List 


Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19
 PM


To:

C List 


Cc:

Josh Muckley 


Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop
 for chartplotter?




 



Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious.  The NOAA website has all of 
their charts available in vector and raster formats.  They also have links to 
free and paid software for viewing the
 charts.  You'll need to provide a GPS input.  There are lots of options (long 
term and short) but the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle.


A laptop is very power hungry.  The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps.  
It's worse if you have to use an inverter.  12v chargers can often be found on 
amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10.

Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof.

PM me if you need more info.

Josh Muckley

S/V Sea Hawk

1989 C 37+

Solomons, MD 


On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

Hi Guys,


 


The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter.  
Instead of rushing into the purchas

Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Kevin Driscoll via CnC-List]

+ 1 for MX Mariner. I have been using it on my 7" android tablet and
Android Phone for 3 years in tights spots and up and down the Oregon + Wa
Coasts and in the San Juans. I also have Navionics on both devices for
redundancy and with have charts downloaded on both. These apps send me
notification and/or automatically update charts whenever new NOAA
information is available (a huge plus for safety imo.) Active Captain is
also integral with both apps. MX Mariner is free, I believe Navionics was
$20 for charts of all of Northern CA, Oregon, Washington and San Juans. HD
Navionics was $50-60 as mentioned, but normal fidelity was fine on my 7"
Tablet.

Additionally I have an app called Boat Beacon which sends(with your MMSI #)
and receives AIS info. It does this only when connected to cell service
(when I need real AIS, I'll buy it.) I do also have an old handheld GPS
(with outdated charts... like nearly all non wifi enabled
GPS/Chartplotters)

If I were you Danny, I would load up your android tablet, and one or two
phones with apps/charts as a back up for the delivery. IMO the dongles,
bluetooth adapters etc, add complexity and expense and seem like an obvious
weak link in the system to me, as well as the battery drain, and not having
the plotter/laptop in the cockpit. The apps will always be cheaper than
additional hardware. But you can worry about that or not, when you get your
boat home! BTW, you'll find that most delivery skippers only use a Tablet
with Navionics because they can't trust the systems on the boats they are
delivering. And a plug for one of the only boats/blogs that are really out
there doing real sailing and not island hopping: s/v Sila
<http://svsila.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_16.html>, who has been using iPad
Tablets successfully for years now, including around Cape Horn and a number
of oceanic crossings. My 2 cents.

Congratulations on your (almost) new boat Danny!



On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 8:16 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all
> works great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite
> lacking. OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too.
>
> The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof,
> it isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old
> beast draws around 4-5 amps.
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel
> Aronson via CnC-List
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM
> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> *Cc:* Joel Aronson
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>
>
>
> Download  OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle
> and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon.  $50 should cover the dongle and
> power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet.
>
>
>
> Joel
>
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> Danny,
>
> the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t
> see the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them
> several times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to
> navigate with since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the
> time, in my home waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this
> area for 40+ years and probably know the waters more accurately than the
> chart plotter anyway. I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck
> on sandbars because they followed the GPS instead of the marks!
>
>
>
> James
>
> Delaney
>
> 1976 C 38
>
> Oriental, NC
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM
>
> *To:* C List
>
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley
>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>
>
>
> Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious.  The NOAA website has
> all of their charts available in vector and raster formats.  They also have
> links to free and paid software for viewing the charts.  You'll need to
> provide a GPS input.  There are lots of options (long term and short) but
> the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle.
>
> A laptop is very power hungry.  The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5
> amps.  It's worse if you have to use an inverter.  12v chargers can often
> be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10.
>
> Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof.
>
> PM me if you need more info.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
>
>
>

Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Bill Coleman via CnC-List]

Drag Queen for both by Active Captain

 

 

Bill Coleman

C 39  Erie PA

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Kevin 
Driscoll via CnC-List
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2015 1:06 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Kevin Driscoll
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

 

Which brings up another topic...anchor alarm apps for phone or tablet! There 
are many available and they do not use any power and do not need to be 
connected to cell service! (Though your plotter is probably fairly efficient 
Andrew)

 

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 10:01 AM Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

A little bit of thread drift; I just installed a Raymarine e7D plotter/radar on 
Peregrine. I got it on sale at Defender for way less than $2K, including the 
radar antenna and wires. Just did a very foggy cruise to Grand Manan Island in 
New Brunswick and the whole unit worked a treat. One of the best features is 
that it transmits a wifi signal that I can get on my iPad so I can check my 
position from my bunk; this is really handy when I'm anchored and worried about 
dragging in the middle of the night.

Andy

C 40

Peregrine

 

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

I have been using an old IBM Thinkpad and OpenCPN for years and it all works 
great. You get spoiled and “real” marine chartplotters seem quite lacking. 
OpenCPN is free and all the charts are free too. 

The only drawbacks are that a laptop is NOT anywhere close to waterproof, it 
isn’t in the cockpit, and they draw more power than a plotter. My old beast 
draws around 4-5 amps.

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson 
via CnC-List
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 6:00 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson


Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

 

Download  OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle and 
buy a 12v power supply on Amazon.  $50 should cover the dongle and power supply 
- assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet.

 

Joel

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

Danny,

the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t see 
the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them several 
times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to navigate with 
since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the time, in my home 
waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this area for 40+ years 
and probably know the waters more accurately than the chart plotter anyway. I 
can’t count the number of times I see people stuck on sandbars because they 
followed the GPS instead of the marks!

 

James

Delaney

1976 C 38

Oriental, NC

 

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 

Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM

To: C List 

Cc: Josh Muckley 

Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

 

Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious.  The NOAA website has all of 
their charts available in vector and raster formats.  They also have links to 
free and paid software for viewing the charts.  You'll need to provide a GPS 
input.  There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest and 
easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. 

A laptop is very power hungry.  The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps.  
It's worse if you have to use an inverter.  12v chargers can often be found on 
amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10.

Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof.

PM me if you need more info.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD 

On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

Hi Guys,

 

The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter.  
Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was 
thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and 
charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I think I'd get a cheap 
handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for $169.

 

I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb ram and 
I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age.

 

Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good 
deal on a plotter over the off season?

 

It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install anything 
before the trip.

 

Any and all advice is always appreciated!

 

Danny

Still headed toward a closing

Massachusetts


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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Joel Aronson via CnC-List]

Download  OpenCPn, the currents plug in and the charts, add the GPS dongle
and buy a 12v power supply on Amazon.  $50 should cover the dongle and
power supply - assuming you have a cigaretee lighter/12v power outlet.

Joel

On Tuesday, September 8, 2015, jtsails via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
wrote:

> Danny,
> the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t
> see the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them
> several times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to
> navigate with since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the
> time, in my home waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this
> area for 40+ years and probably know the waters more accurately than the
> chart plotter anyway. I can’t count the number of times I see people stuck
> on sandbars because they followed the GPS instead of the marks!
>
> James
> Delaney
> 1976 C 38
> Oriental, NC
>
> *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM
> *To:* C List <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>
> *Cc:* Josh Muckley <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','muckl...@gmail.com');>
> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?
>
>
> Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious.  The NOAA website has
> all of their charts available in vector and raster formats.  They also have
> links to free and paid software for viewing the charts.  You'll need to
> provide a GPS input.  There are lots of options (long term and short) but
> the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle.
>
> A laptop is very power hungry.  The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5
> amps.  It's worse if you have to use an inverter.  12v chargers can often
> be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10.
>
> Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof.
>
> PM me if you need more info.
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C 37+
> Solomons, MD
> On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cnc-list@cnc-list.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have
>> chartplotter.  Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the
>> delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS
>> antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I think
>> I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for $169.
>>
>> I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb
>> ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age.
>>
>> Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a
>> good deal on a plotter over the off season?
>>
>> It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install
>> anything before the trip.
>>
>> Any and all advice is always appreciated!
>>
>> Danny
>> Still headed toward a closing
>> Massachusetts
>>
>> ___
>>
>> Email address:
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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Josh Muckley via CnC-List]

Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious.  The NOAA website has all
of their charts available in vector and raster formats.  They also have
links to free and paid software for viewing the charts.  You'll need to
provide a GPS input.  There are lots of options (long term and short) but
the quickest and easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle.

A laptop is very power hungry.  The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5
amps.  It's worse if you have to use an inverter.  12v chargers can often
be found on amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10.

Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof.

PM me if you need more info.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD
On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" 
wrote:

> Hi Guys,
>
> The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have
> chartplotter.  Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the
> delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS
> antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I think
> I'd get a cheap handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for $169.
>
> I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb
> ram and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age.
>
> Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a
> good deal on a plotter over the off season?
>
> It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install
> anything before the trip.
>
> Any and all advice is always appreciated!
>
> Danny
> Still headed toward a closing
> Massachusetts
>
> ___
>
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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[jtsails via CnC-List]

Danny,
the only GPS I carry on my boat is a small handheld garmin, I just don’t see 
the need for a big chartplotter. I’ve chartered boats that had them several 
times, but even then I found that I only used my handheld to navigate with 
since I am familiar and comfortable with it. Most of the time, in my home 
waters I don’t even use the handheld but I’ve sailed this area for 40+ years 
and probably know the waters more accurately than the chart plotter anyway. I 
can’t count the number of times I see people stuck on sandbars because they 
followed the GPS instead of the marks!

James
Delaney
1976 C 38
Oriental, NC

From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 5:19 PM
To: C List 
Cc: Josh Muckley 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious.  The NOAA website has all of 
their charts available in vector and raster formats.  They also have links to 
free and paid software for viewing the charts.  You'll need to provide a GPS 
input.  There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest and 
easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. 

A laptop is very power hungry.  The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps.  
It's worse if you have to use an inverter.  12v chargers can often be found on 
amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10.

Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof.

PM me if you need more info.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD 

On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

  Hi Guys,

  The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter.  
Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was 
thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and 
charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I think I'd get a cheap 
handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for $169.

  I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb ram 
and I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age.

  Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good 
deal on a plotter over the off season?

  It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install 
anything before the trip.

  Any and all advice is always appreciated!

  Danny
  Still headed toward a closing
  Massachusetts

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Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi Guys, The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have 
chartplotter.  Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the 
delivery home I was thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS 
antennae/dongle and charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I think I'd 
get a cheap handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for $169. I have 
windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb ram and I have 
an older android tablet with decent specs for it age. Is this a viable option 
to at least get the boat home and try and find a good deal on a plotter over 
the off season? It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to 
install anything before the trip. Any and all advice is always appreciated! 
DannyStill headed toward a closingMassachusetts___

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Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter

[Dave via CnC-List]

Funny timing.  
Check out bad elf GPS PRO, or Garmin GLO, Bluetooth GPS.  These are wireless 
GPS devices to which You can connect 5 Bluetooth devices concurrently, bring it 
with you, etc.  

I had been using my 'work' iPad Air (3G) and navionics, worked great, but I 
purchased another iPad Air (wifi only) and will pick up the Garmin GLO to 
provide wireless chart plotting.  Get a good case  'Life proof ' was the 
most recommended.  

Working on next phase now, devicenet (nmea2000/seatalkng) network, with wifi on 
board GPS receiver, with PC OR tablet through serial and wifi gateway to 
devicenet bus.  This will allow me to combine tablet based chart plotter 
display and functionality with all other instruments and autopilot, for a 
fraction of the cost of a big name, one brand system.  I have a PC running 
Linux/navigatrix, and openCPN, and will duplicate this in a tablet or two once 
it's working.  Sounds complicated but I don't think it will be.  I was lucky to 
have purchased a boat that was essentially original in the electronics dept, 
and even luckier to have a neighbour at the marina who knows this stuff!


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Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

[Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List]

If I may suggest, a Bluetooth GPS puck might be a better option (a tablet has 
probably very limited USB ports). If you have a GPS dongle, get yourself a 
USB2Go cable that would let you connect a normal USB device (low power, though) 
to a MicroUSB port that is normally available on a tablet.

 

A tablet would not need (normally) more than about 2 A for power supply (at 5 
V). There are many options for supplying that 5 V (USB voltage) from a 12 V DC.

 

Software-wise, you might be better off with an Android, iOS or Linux (plenty of 
no cost or low cost apps). For Windows, applications are more limited in that 
category.

 

Before you go, check if your application is easy enough to operate in tablet 
mode (i.e. by touch). I find that some of the Windows applications are 
difficult to operate without a mouse and/or keyboard. I use a small BT mouse 
that can double up as a trackball (when space or table surface is at a premium) 
and a BT keyboard. Keep in mind that those two are even less water proof than 
the tablet itself. 

 

If you use a tablet I would recommend upgrading to Win 10.

 

Marek

C270, Legato

In Ottawa.

 

 

From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Josh Muckley 
via CnC-List
Sent: September-08-15 17:20
To: C List
Cc: Josh Muckley
Subject: Re: Stus-List Windows laptop for chartplotter?

 

Yes, it is a great option for the cost conscious.  The NOAA website has all of 
their charts available in vector and raster formats.  They also have links to 
free and paid software for viewing the charts.  You'll need to provide a GPS 
input.  There are lots of options (long term and short) but the quickest and 
easiest is to buy a usb gps dongle. 

A laptop is very power hungry.  The chargers usually draw 90w or ~7.5 amps.  
It's worse if you have to use an inverter.  12v chargers can often be found on 
amazon or ebay for pretty cheap, $10.

Most laptops are also not in any way waterproof.

PM me if you need more info.

Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
1989 C 37+
Solomons, MD 

On Sep 8, 2015 5:05 PM, "Danny Haughey via CnC-List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
wrote:

Hi Guys,

 

The boat I'm in the process of buying does not currently have chartplotter.  
Instead of rushing into the purchase of a new one for the delivery home I was 
thinking to use a windows tablet with an external GPS antennae/dongle and 
charts loaded from someplace to be determined.  I think I'd get a cheap 
handheld garmin as well.  GPS store has one for $169.

 

I have windows tablet with the specs of a laptop.  i5 processor and 4gb ram and 
I have an older android tablet with decent specs for it age.

 

Is this a viable option to at least get the boat home and try and find a good 
deal on a plotter over the off season?

 

It would also be a carry on and use and alleviate the need to install anything 
before the trip.

 

Any and all advice is always appreciated!

 

Danny

Still headed toward a closing

Massachusetts


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