Re: ASU 2008.08 image
Benedikt Schindler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rod Whitby schrieb: So whilst it might give an idea of what ASU might look like, it will certainly have lots of bugs and features (e.g. the FSO theme) which definitely are not in the image you get when you build from the correct branch. -- Rod we should editing the wiki then. because the wiki definitly saied that this should be the ASU (Om2008.8) Image. Is at this place the Om2008.8 (ASU) tomorrow or not? (OK.. ok, i will wait for the offical announcment) Is 8/8: First official release of Om 2008.8 [1] in the front page guilty ? : looks like it was announced officially indeed :( Anyway, now it should be released right ? I can see two sets of images in http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080808/ : openmoko-devel-image and openmoko-qtopia-x11-image Is it OK now ? ... which one should be use : my guess is openmoko-qtopia-x11-image as -devel seems more of unstable/testing/beta things... Thanks in advance for any hints. Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor
Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: imho shipping such an adapter within FR box would be a nice gesture from OM -- they chosen an adapter which seems to be not that popular and people struggle to choose 'the right one'. I bet if OM bought in bulk it would cost them no more than 1$ a piece. Yes, that and a USB host adapter. Possibly they could put that in the accessories package (or if possible a new package, because I already have the accessories) -- Charles-Henri ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS working with SIMYO
Michael Kluge wrote: Hi all, Woo-hoo -- I managed to get an GPRS connection: Jul 23 09:16:59 om-gta02 local2.info chat[9536]: expect (CONNECT) Jul 23 09:16:59 om-gta02 local2.info chat[9536]: ^M Jul 23 09:17:05 om-gta02 local2.info chat[9536]: ATDT*99***1#^M^M Jul 23 09:17:05 om-gta02 local2.info chat[9536]: CONNECT Jul 23 09:17:05 om-gta02 local2.info chat[9536]: -- got it Jul 23 09:17:05 om-gta02 local2.info chat[9536]: send (^M) Jul 23 09:17:05 om-gta02 daemon.info pppd[9532]: Serial connection established. Jul 23 09:17:05 om-gta02 daemon.debug pppd[9532]: using channel 1 Jul 23 09:17:05 om-gta02 daemon.info pppd[9532]: Using interface ppp0 Jul 23 09:17:05 om-gta02 daemon.notice pppd[9532]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttySAC0 ... Jul 23 09:17:10 om-gta02 daemon.notice pppd[9532]: local IP address 10.161.143.42 Jul 23 09:17:10 om-gta02 daemon.notice pppd[9532]: remote IP address 10.64.64.64 Jul 23 09:17:10 om-gta02 daemon.notice pppd[9532]: primary DNS address 212.23.97.2 Jul 23 09:17:10 om-gta02 daemon.notice pppd[9532]: secondary DNS address 212.23.97.3 Jul 23 09:17:10 om-gta02 daemon.debug pppd[9532]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started (pid 9555) Jul 23 09:17:10 om-gta02 daemon.debug pppd[9532]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 9555), status = 0x0 Please add your scripts and instructions to the wiki! This is excellent information. Thanks, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange problem with Intenso 4GB SDHC card
Alle 01:16, sabato 26 luglio 2008, Thomas B. ha scritto: On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 11:44:37PM +0200, AVee wrote: On Friday 25 July 2008 10:54, arne anka wrote: i got a 4 gig card too (can't say if from intenso, have to check the wrapping). my card's boot sector is not erased but -- after a resume the card is mounted wrongly! fstab says as mountpoint /media/card and after booting that's where the card is. after suspend/resume the card (often) is mounted to /media/mmcblk1p1 instead -- thus every attempt to read from or write to the sd card goes to the built-in memory instead. I can confirm seeing the same behaviour with a Sandisk 8GB card... Me too (also Sandisk 8GB). It bit me while running Qtopia from SD card: Upon resuming the system crashed, probably because the rootfs was gone... I could reproduce this after having booted from flash. dmesg log of the suspend/resume cycle is attached. Regards, Thomas Any fix for this problem? I've made many test with a 4G SD. If use it for boot qtopia from vfat and ext2 partions it work fine. Slowly but fine. If I start system from 2007.2 in flash the mounted SD partitions give me many errors. Sometime was mounted 1st partion, sometime all of than. I've tried to access it in reading and writing and frequently I get I/O errors in dmesg. On time was loose partition table (in suspend/resume session). I've tried many partitions schemas (mixed FAT and ext2) but always I/O errors come. I've reformatted in a unique partition with FAT and I've filled in it about 1GB of maps for tangogps from my PC. The partition was mounted in /media/card and when tangogps start to read from SD some file was read good and many other not. The screen become full noised when SD is reading and get I/O errors. After the read go to end the screen come back showing fine. The 4GB SD with my PC work fine, no I/O errors. The 512M SD in FR package always work very well. The 4GB SD is a Apacer Micro SDHC 4GB Class 6. -- The sooner our happiness together begins, the longer it will last. -- Miramanee, The Paradise Syndrome, stardate 4842.6 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: receiving SMS messages
Bruce Adams schrieb: I've had the impression, on other phones, that the GSM network could successfully deliver a message into the SIM card inside my phone, but if the phone software was too distracted to hear the initial notification from the SIM card about the new message, the phone wouldn't notice the message until another message came along or something else happened (such as rebooting the phone) that caused the phone to look for messages on the SIM. that's just the way it is on my Sony Ericsson p1 and O2. (But there they say it is a problem with O2-Germany. But no one knows why no other handy has this problem ;) ) So i'm used to it, to have a buggy handy. and thisone wouldn't get new Software-Fixes every day. I am seeing forward to replace it with my Om2008.8/Freerunner . ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?
Hello. On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 22:31, Craig B. Allen wrote: I submitted ticket #79. Thanks. I adjusted the title a bit to reflect better that you are asking for a DTMF keypad. This is something the framework need to provide. Once it does this zhone just cover it to show how to use it. Due to the given time to MS3 we will not be able to make this happen in the next release though. http://trac.freesmartphone.org/roadmap But it is not forgotten. We keep the bug until we fixed this. regards Stefan Schmidt signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
Hi, Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: Ideally the sources should be in a state where you can create ipkg and debian (and fedora and gentoo) packages just as easily. If it is only to escape opkg then in OE you simply need to set INHERIT += package_deb (in your local.conf) and then it will build .deb packages as well. Regards Robert signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor
imho shipping such an adapter within FR box would be a nice gesture from OM -- they chosen an adapter which seems to be not that popular and people struggle to choose 'the right one'. I bet if OM bought in bulk it would cost them no more than 1$ a piece. While we're on the subject, a USB Host/Device Y-cable or adapter would be good to include as well. Come to think of it maybe there is a market for a 3rd party supplier to put together an accessory kit that extends the functionality of the FR beyond 'laser-pointer yielding' and into 'USB device medusa' .. ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS working with SIMYO
Am Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:36:07 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Kluge wrote: Hi all, Woo-hoo -- I managed to get an GPRS connection: Please add your scripts and instructions to the wiki! This is excellent information. Thanks, Michael I added my scripts for connecting to simyo to the wiki, I think they are originally based on his work. ~ Jakob ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU 2008.08 image
Olivier Berger schrieb: Is 8/8: First official release of Om 2008.8 [1] in the front page guilty ? : looks like it was announced officially indeed :( NO! This was standing there since a few days! This section is a mixed up event and news section. And someone put it in there as upcomming event! We should split up news and events in two boxes. And news should be something like offical announcements. Anyway, now it should be released right ? i don't think so ! I can see two sets of images in http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/20080808/ : openmoko-devel-image and openmoko-qtopia-x11-image Is it OK now ? ... which one should be use : my guess is openmoko-qtopia-x11-image as -devel seems more of unstable/testing/beta things... If i understand all the postings of yesterday right, this is the real meaning of the files: openmoko-devel-image : This is the offical Om2007.2 release. install the rootfs. Do a opkg update opkg upgrade. And you are just where everyone in the list is when he saied he is running a OM2007.2 openmoko-qtopia-x11-image : This is not the ASU or the Om2008.8 ! this is a mixture from Om2007.2 and some ASU applications. (And the style the ASU would look like.) So used it to see what ASU would look like. But it will have many bugs the ASU doesn't have or witch are not there anymore. And now i don't know what someone in the list used if he saied he used ASU. For me i always thought this is the ASU. So maybe he used this or the real ASU. How to get the real ASU: i don't know. we have to wait for the announcement. If i understand the other people right, there had never been a correct installation guide in the wiki, about where to get an up to date ASU image. It is just an Om2007.2 updated with qtopia apps. Thanks in advance for any hints. Best regards, @all : please corret me if i get something wrong. i am still waiting for my real ASU ;) Beni 366 posible devicenappings ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU 2008.08 image
To be fair the wiki points to an equally misleading folder : http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/ I guess it was all prep work for the release. Is this the official release location now or what? ; -- Jay Vaughan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
If it is only to escape opkg then in OE you simply need to set INHERIT += package_deb (in your local.conf) and then it will build .deb packages as well. well, _that's_ nice. coulöd someone please put it in wiki/debian? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU 2008.08 image
Hi Jay: To be fair the wiki points to an equally misleading folder : http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200808/ I guess it was all prep work for the release. Is this the official release location now or what? No, it's not official, I think will be another announcement. Regards, Tony Tu (Neng-Yu Tu) Openmoko, Inc. Support. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Request for Help: SYSTEMS fair 21th-24th October in Munich, Germany
Hi, i couldn't get a money sponsoring from my company. (it's definitly not our market) But i maybe get some jackets with an openmoko design for the people who are standing at the systems. i will create and post a sample design later. 23th and 24th i am definitly there. I'm trying to get there also on the first two days. (i just didn't get my vacation confirmation from my boss yet) cu all Beni Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller schrieb: Hi all in Munich, Bavaria, Germany (or anywhere else who wants to visit Munich in October): We can get a small booth (12 sqm somewhere near IBM) at the SYSTEMS fair in the PERSPEKTIVE OPEN SOURCE area. http://www.systems.de/ http://www.systems.de/de/Home/besucher/themen/themenueberblick#20135120 http://www.systems.de/link/de/20155618#20155618 For further planning, I need * people who want to help planning * people who want to staff the booth * ideas what to present * potential sponsors (my company is willing to do some sponsoring but probably not all) Please write me your ideas. Nikolaus Mobile Office Solutions by Golden Delicious Computers GmbHCo. KG Buchenstr. 3 D-82041 Oberhaching +49-89-54290367 http://www.handheld-linux.com AG München, HRA 89571 VAT DE253626266 Komplementär: Golden Delicious Computers Verwaltungs GmbH Oberhaching, AG München, HRB 16602 Geschäftsführer: Dr. Nikolaus Schaller Digital Tools for Independent People ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS rework: Please test and report on software fix prior to attempting any hardware fix
On Tuesday August 5, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For a bit more consistency of timing, less manual intervention, and enough readings to get an idea of the run to run variation in that location, can I suggest a script? It could do with a timeout when waiting for a fix since with deivestrength 3 and idleclk 1 this can take a _very_ long time, possibly forever in some locations! Thanks for the script. After wondering for a while why it didn't work at all for me, I added stty min 1 /dev/ttySAC1 because either frameworkd in FSO or openmoko-agpsui did an stty min 0 /dev/ttySAC1 and that caused grep to exit immediately. Anyway, I haven't let it run completely yet, but the first result is d i time 0 0 real 9m 52.15s Yes, nearly 10 minutes. This is indoors, but I have had problems getting a GPS fix everywhere, inside, outside, in a car, in the park. Once it fixes it tracks OK (though it doesn't recover from going into a shopping complex and coming out again). It seems a lot like the originally reported problem, but this is with a kernel that has the fix and the magic sysfs files: Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Jul 29 01:19:38 UTC 2008 armv4tl unknown I have the wireless going, but GSM is possibly turned off as I killed frameworkd to make sure it wasn't touching the GPS. I know someone who I trust to solder the capacitor - should I try that (if I can get hold of him)? Another result just came in: d i time 0 0 real 9m 52.15s 0 1 real 8m 29.79s These numbers are actually pretty good. openmoko-agpsui was giving me 1000 or 2100 seconds! I decided to take out the SD card (and the SIM card) and try again. (just chat quietly among yourselves while we wait for the first result). d i time 0 0 real 5m 14.32s 0 1 real 2m 56.78s 1 0 real 5m 37.79s Well, that wasn't so bad. But still not what I hoped for. I'm wondering if I got a lemon :-( NeilBrown ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GSoC OpenMoko Bluetooth remote controller - First beta package
Hi, the first beta package of ReMoko are available now in: http://code.google.com/p/remoko/downloads/list Installation and usage instructions can be reached in this page: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Bluetooth_remote_controller I appreciate some feedback, specially from people that can test the app with Windows Vista and Mac OSX. The UI still very beta at the moment, and I need some help to from people with design skills : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Openmoko_Bluetooth_remote_controller#Need_help_in : Feel free to send me comments and features requests. Best regards, -- Valério Valério http://www.valeriovalerio.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Dear Community, We are proud to announce the release of Om 2008.8 for public reviewing. It represents our current state of development over the last 6 months. We came a long way before achieving this milestone. Here is what you can expect: - A stable and working phone stack realized by using Qtopia. - A new and flexible window manager [Illume] that broadens our support for the different graphic libraries, including GTK+ and more. - The whole system software has been reworked which leads to a very fast and reliable suspend resume, LED control and power management. - A graphical frontend [Installer] for package management as installing, removing or updating applications via repositories. - Also included is an application which combines GPS and SMS [Locations] for easy sharing of locations among friends. For detailed information about Om 2008.8 (including instructions, references and currently known issues) check out our wiki at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8 Please consider this a next step towards an open end user ready mobile platform. We are not there yet but we will continue working towards that direction. We invite you to install our latest release and give feedback: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2 http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.uImage.bin Soon after our release we will publish frequent snapshots of our builds to give you the possibility to follow our development and latest fixes. You can join forces with our QA team by submitting bug reports and/or patches to make the platform as robust as possible. We are excited about this release and look forward to moving together towards upcoming milestones. Best Regards, Openmoko Team ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tmobile GPRS
Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 22:47:45 schrieb Angus Ainslie: On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 12:27 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like there was a parsing error in ogsmd in between. I'd be grateful for debug logs. WIth the newest framework deamon (which I'm going to upload to the updates feed on weekend), you can change debug log destination while the program is running -- that should simplify sending me logs. Is it just framework fixes or will there be some UI fixes ? Only framework for now. As I've said UI has very low priority. Is there anything you want fixed in particular? -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is my freerunner defect?
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:37:21 +0100 Andy Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a look in here: /sys/devices/platform/bq2700-battery.0/power_supply/bat/capacity this is the estimate for percentage full on battery. It can be wrong initially, I think it would be good to run the device for a while with just battery, then charge and then I think these estimates can be more realistic from coulomb counter. Thanks for your answer! This shows me 98% after I loaded it for two hours with my external power suplly (not usb) :) bye signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO wifi power control
Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 22:59:46 schrieb Angus Ainslie: Is there any way to control whether wifi is on or off from the command line in FSO. There is a WiFi object under the /org/freesmartphone/Device hierarchy which exports the PowerControl API. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
William Lai wrote: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2 http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.uImage.bin One should note that these images are most likely only working with freerunners. At least this is what i think after looking at the file size of the root image. Not very surprising since no ASU build ever worked for me on gta01 even these built for gta01. People, please don't forget Neo 1993! Why abandone the naming scheme for images? -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Congratulations to Openmoko and every one involved, Great Job! I am in office today just for your email (fast internet). you have made my day. -GK ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Maybe I should add that the binary Om 2008.8 release is for GTA02 only right now. For GTA01, we have no big plan yet but we will look at it next. The biggest problem that stops us is that we are extremely low on GTA01 phones :-) I am only aware of 1 (ONE) functioning GTA01 in the Taipei office. A bit hard to do development and testing that way. Next week we will look at the Om 2008.8 on GTA01 situation: 1. how many people want this? 2. does anyone in the community step up and compile the distribution for GTA01? (there will be some work: size reduction, GPS chip, etc) 3. can we support or do that from Taipei, do we find enough working GTA01? 4. how much work is it and how fast can we do it? Also, the files on http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/ are a bit confusing. There are 4 files there, but actually only 2. The other 2 are symlinks. The symlinks have no 'gta02' in the name giving you the impression it could be for GTA01 - but it isn't :-) So there are only 2 files, and they only work for GTA02: kernel: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8-gta02-20080808.uImage.bin rootfs: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8-gta02-20080808.rootfs.jffs2 Finally, don't ask me where an updated u-boot is. I think we will add it shortly. Best Regards, Wolfgang On Aug 8, 2008, at 7:03 PM, William Lai wrote: Dear Community, We are proud to announce the release of Om 2008.8 for public reviewing. It represents our current state of development over the last 6 months. We came a long way before achieving this milestone. Here is what you can expect: - A stable and working phone stack realized by using Qtopia. - A new and flexible window manager [Illume] that broadens our support for the different graphic libraries, including GTK+ and more. - The whole system software has been reworked which leads to a very fast and reliable suspend resume, LED control and power management. - A graphical frontend [Installer] for package management as installing, removing or updating applications via repositories. - Also included is an application which combines GPS and SMS [Locations] for easy sharing of locations among friends. For detailed information about Om 2008.8 (including instructions, references and currently known issues) check out our wiki at: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8 Please consider this a next step towards an open end user ready mobile platform. We are not there yet but we will continue working towards that direction. We invite you to install our latest release and give feedback: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2 http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.uImage.bin Soon after our release we will publish frequent snapshots of our builds to give you the possibility to follow our development and latest fixes. You can join forces with our QA team by submitting bug reports and/or patches to make the platform as robust as possible. We are excited about this release and look forward to moving together towards upcoming milestones. Best Regards, Openmoko Team ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pulsters outstanding orders
I GOT IT :-) First I will charge the battery and then I will update to Om 2008.8 I am happy, christian Am Mittwoch, den 06.08.2008, 14:04 +0200 schrieb Christoph Pulster: From: Carcinoma [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not happy about writing this Mail, but i think there is not better place. How about emailing me ? :-) I am sure the ML here is bored to read the status of each Pulster order. We are flooded with emails and orders, so again my apologises for the sub-optimal support and late reply. Openmoko Inc. confirmed this morning our batch is shipped today. This means EVERYBODY who ordered with Pulster and got a confirmation, will receive his Freerunner within August ! @nicolas: I will add a free headset for your bank charges. Christoph Openmoko Shop www.pulster.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- mfg/br, christian weßel Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Le vendredi 08 août 2008 à 19:48 +0800, Wolfgang Spraul a écrit : Maybe I should add that the binary Om 2008.8 release is for GTA02 only right now. For GTA01, we have no big plan yet but we will look at it next. The biggest problem that stops us is that we are extremely low on GTA01 phones :-) I am only aware of 1 (ONE) functioning GTA01 in the Taipei office. A bit hard to do development and testing that way. Next week we will look at the Om 2008.8 on GTA01 situation: 1. how many people want this? 2. does anyone in the community step up and compile the distribution for GTA01? (there will be some work: size reduction, GPS chip, etc) 3. can we support or do that from Taipei, do we find enough working GTA01? 4. how much work is it and how fast can we do it? I really like to have the Om2008.08 on my GTA01. -- Alexandre ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
hi there, leo.studer wrote: Just installed, I must be stupid because I can't see how to shift the keyboard towards figures, so actually I can't enter my SIM pin... that's strange, I must have missed something obvious... Ganesha Krishna wrote: Congratulations to Openmoko and every one involved, Great Job! I am in office today just for your email (fast internet). you have made my day. -GK same here, i can't figure how to pass on numbers so i can't insert pin for sim use, no gsm test is possible... maybe i can't add me to stupid group? also, very congrats to the team, the work appear fantastic, at least at first impression. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Openmoko-Om-2008.8-Release-tp680370p680439.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO wifi power control
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 22:59:46 schrieb Angus Ainslie: | Is there any way to control whether wifi is on or off from the command line | in FSO. | | There is a WiFi object under the /org/freesmartphone/Device hierarchy which | exports the PowerControl API. But what does that actually do... it doesn't turn the thing off. I guess it sends some suspend command somehow to the firmware. This /sys thing I mention uses a pin on the module to turn it off to the point it does not react as an SDIO device even any more. Then when we deassert that, we need to scan it again. In addition, this patch makes it boot turned off. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkicK/4ACgkQOjLpvpq7dMoL+QCghtD4dDMIv9D4Ay6M/Ajuf8hL UHgAnimwGdrXLLA56v69L2u64oqK2nmR =owO0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car charger to GTA02
Am Fr 8. August 2008 schrieb Michael: On 11/07/08 00:00:51, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote: I'm pretty sure the neo1973 cant charge with more than 500mA due to the hardware, nothing in software will fix that, I think the post you quoted was about the freerunner. I read months ago that it should be able to charge at 1000mA too (if charger supports it). Just to clear this up, I have read through the kernel source for the GTA01 pmu driver and there is no mention of 1000mA, but there is in the GTA02 driver. So either the PMU does not support it, or the kernel does not use this fature in its driver. Michael. IIRC, PCF50606 can't do 1000mA, only PCF50633 can. /jOERG signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Wolfgang Spraul wrote: Maybe I should add that the binary Om 2008.8 release is for GTA02 only right now. Thank you for clearing that. 1. how many people want this? Me :) 3. can we support or do that from Taipei, do we find enough working GTA01? I would happyly exchange mine for a freerunner. *g* -- Drucken Sie diese Mail bitte nur auf Recyclingpapier aus. Please print this mail only on recycled paper. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Could someone explain me the + + + and the * at the bottom of the screen (Om 2008.8) ?
Hi, in every menu I have at the bottom of the screen three + and left a * sign. I can't find out any funcionality with these things? What is their puprose? signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Sugacapra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi there, leo.studer wrote: Just installed, I must be stupid because I can't see how to shift the keyboard towards figures, so actually I can't enter my SIM pin... that's strange, I must have missed something obvious... Try flicking the keyboard up (sliding your finger up quickly in the keyboard) rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
The same. I was waiting for this day thinking that it will be also version for GTA01. Alexandre Ghisoli wrote: Le vendredi 08 août 2008 à 19:48 +0800, Wolfgang Spraul a écrit : Maybe I should add that the binary Om 2008.8 release is for GTA02 only right now. For GTA01, we have no big plan yet but we will look at it next. The biggest problem that stops us is that we are extremely low on GTA01 phones :-) I am only aware of 1 (ONE) functioning GTA01 in the Taipei office. A bit hard to do development and testing that way. Next week we will look at the Om 2008.8 on GTA01 situation: 1. how many people want this? 2. does anyone in the community step up and compile the distribution for GTA01? (there will be some work: size reduction, GPS chip, etc) 3. can we support or do that from Taipei, do we find enough working GTA01? 4. how much work is it and how fast can we do it? I really like to have the Om2008.08 on my GTA01. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
[quote] Try flicking the keyboard up (sliding your finger up quickly in the keyboard) rakshat [/quote] whoa! thanks a lot and outstanding ! is the first h effect i see truly on my FR :D -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Openmoko-Om-2008.8-Release-tp680370p680457.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Some questions regarding om2008.2
Hi, having just installed the new images, some questions came up: - where have the settings gone? (not the former expediture(sp??)) but the setting that were hidden behind the little wrench in the task switcher) - where did the cancel button in the enter pin dialogue go? apart from that, nice snapshot ;-). kindest regards Dietz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2008.8 password.
I have just installed 2008.8, looks pretty and fast compared to 2007.2. I can ssh to the device, but cant log in. Whats the default password? - doesnt seem to be blank anymore. and there isnt a terminal by default so I can just change it :) BillK -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
a tar.gz file would be very useful for booting from SD card... On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Sugacapra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [quote] Try flicking the keyboard up (sliding your finger up quickly in the keyboard) rakshat [/quote] whoa! thanks a lot and outstanding ! is the first h effect i see truly on my FR :D -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Openmoko-Om-2008.8-Release-tp680370p680457.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 2008.8 password.
ignore me - too excited. Was trying to ssh back into the PC :) BillK On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 20:21 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: I have just installed 2008.8, looks pretty and fast compared to 2007.2. I can ssh to the device, but cant log in. Whats the default password? - doesnt seem to be blank anymore. and there isnt a terminal by default so I can just change it :) BillK -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
whoa! thanks a lot and outstanding ! is the first h effect i see truly on my FR :D I like this image so far, it's starting to feel like a real operating system - a*HUGE* thanks from me to everyone involved. Two questions though, related to h effects: 1) Is this the first release to incorporate xglamo? 2) Is this about the best graphic performance we can expect from the Glamo/Freerunner? (not that it's particularly bad, it's just not perfect and I want to know where to set the bar :) ) Aaron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tmobile GPRS
Am Freitag 08 August 2008 00:41:48 schrieb Fredrik Wendt: tor 2008-08-07 klockan 20:27 +0200 skrev Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: Am Dienstag 05 August 2008 00:36:06 schrieb Fredrik Wendt: Sets up ppp with IP, DNS and (replaces) default route. However, after I disconnect (using mdbus PDP.DeactivateContext) zhone reports that there's no network signal - the signal strength bar is empty (black). /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: GetStatus failed: org.freesmartphone.GSM.Device.Timeout Is there anything i should do, or avoid doing? Sounds like there was a parsing error in ogsmd in between. I'd be grateful for debug logs. WIth the newest framework deamon (which I'm going to upload to the updates feed on weekend), you can change debug log destination while the program is running -- that should simplify sending me logs. What logs do you want - frameworkd? logread logs_for_mickey.txt? dmesg? frameworkd and logread -f would be good. For full verbosity, add log_level=DEBUG to the subsystems found in /etc/frameworkd.conf Newer frameworkd with configuration on-the-fly coming soon. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
opkg can't update in om2008.8?
Hi, opkg update on my freshly flashed om 2008.8 seems to be unable to get new packages. The download works ok but then it says Failed to download etc.: (the following trimmed to output from one archive only) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# opkg update Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.gz Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.sig Signature check failed Collected errors: * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.gz, error 0 * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.sig, error 0 Any idea? kindest regards, Dietz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Om 2008.8 doesn't ask for my pin so no gsm available but 2007 and FSO 2 do?
I flashed the new kernel and image but if I boot now I'm not getting asked for a pin. There's no gsm in 2008.8 for me but with 2007 Image or the FSO 2 GSM is working just fine. Wheren can I look for the problem? There are no logs in /var/log and also dmesg| grep -i gsm shows absolutly nothing. Also find . -name gsmd from the root-dir doesn't find anything ?? I flashed these images: http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2 http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.uImage.bin and flashing worked fine without any errors. What is going wrong? signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO wifi power control
Am Freitag 08 August 2008 13:20:30 schrieb Andy Green: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Am Donnerstag 07 August 2008 22:59:46 schrieb Angus Ainslie: | Is there any way to control whether wifi is on or off from the command line | in FSO. | | There is a WiFi object under the /org/freesmartphone/Device hierarchy which | exports the PowerControl API. But what does that actually do... it doesn't turn the thing off. I guess it sends some suspend command somehow to the firmware. It turns the transmit power to 0, which -- according to Sameo -- when we talked about that some months ago was the best kind of offness the chip would offer us. This /sys thing I mention uses a pin on the module to turn it off to the point it does not react as an SDIO device even any more. Then when we deassert that, we need to scan it again. In addition, this patch makes it boot turned off. Amazing. I will use this then. Which sysfs node will it be exactly and will the pwron semantics be normal or inverted? -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg can't update in om2008.8?
opkg update on my freshly flashed om 2008.8 seems to be unable to get new packages. The download works ok but then it says Failed to download etc.: please, post these issues on support! there someone just noted that /etc/resolv.conf is empty -- you probably need to copy the one from your host pc. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg can't update in om2008.8?
Rakshat On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Dietz Proepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, opkg update on my freshly flashed om 2008.8 seems to be unable to get new packages. The download works ok but then it says Failed to download etc.: is it pinging? You will need to edit /etc/resolv.comf with the correct nameserver address again. Rakshat ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg can't update in om2008.8?
stupid $me - was a broken dns config ;-) Dietz Proepper: Hi, opkg update on my freshly flashed om 2008.8 seems to be unable to get new packages. The download works ok but then it says Failed to download etc.: (the following trimmed to output from one archive only) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc/opkg# opkg update Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.gz Downloading http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.sig Signature check failed Collected errors: * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.gz, error 0 * Failed to download http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository//Multiverse/Packages.sig, error 0 Any idea? kindest regards, Dietz ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 19:03 +0800, William Lai wrote: Dear Community, We are proud to announce the release of Om 2008.8 for public reviewing. It represents our current state of development over the last 6 months. We came a long way before achieving this milestone. YAA HOO! snip Soon after our release we will publish frequent snapshots of our builds to give you the possibility to follow our development and latest fixes. You can join forces with our QA team by submitting bug reports and/or patches to make the platform as robust as possible. Will it also be possible to follow development through package updates? Thanks for all the work! digger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any opinions on purchasing from Koolu?
If you're in Canada, go with Koolu. I made the mistake of ordering from the Openmoko store because the shipping with UPS was cheaper, but it ended up being much more expensive when it arrived because of their brokerage fees (it was something like $120). Joe. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Nick Van Fossen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been trying to purchase a new 850 Freerunner for almost 2 weeks now, but as you already know the openmoko online store still says they are to arrive on July 25th... The only two US distributors are Koolu, and gp2xstore.com. Gp2xstore.com only lists the Neo 1973 - not freerunner, and has been ignoring my e-mails for a week and a half, so I guess my only choice is Koolu. But, Koolu looks like they want to go a different direction with their phones than Openmoko does by installing Android, Google Apps, and some other goodies that I have no interest in. I've been hesitant to purchase from them because of this, but I'm wondering if anyone else has purchased an 850 Freerunner from Koolu and how that went? Did you get your phone? Have any problems with Koolu? Do you have any problems installing any of the openmoko builds/stacks? Thanks! -Nick _ Get more from your digital life. Find out how. http://www.windowslive.com/default.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Home2_082008 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
Wow that sounds neat! How hard would it be to create an apt repository on the openmoko build host using this? Then we could just edit a config and run apt-get ^.^ On Friday 08 August 2008 04:30:17 Robert Schuster wrote: Hi, Timo Juhani Lindfors schrieb: Ideally the sources should be in a state where you can create ipkg and debian (and fedora and gentoo) packages just as easily. If it is only to escape opkg then in OE you simply need to set INHERIT += package_deb (in your local.conf) and then it will build .deb packages as well. Regards Robert -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a tar.gz file would be very useful for booting from SD card... I guess you may convert the contents of the JFFS2 to a tarball by following bits explained here : http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ModifyingRootImage/ In particular somthing like this on a desktop GNU/Linux (if you run 2.6 kernel) : mknod /tmp/mtdblock0 b 31 0 modprobe loop losetup /dev/loop0 Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2 modprobe mtdblock modprobe block2mtd echo /dev/loop0 /sys/module/block2mtd/parameters/block2mtd modprobe jffs2 mount -t jffs2 /tmp/mtdblock0 /media/jffs2 USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISKS ;) Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?
2008/8/7 Stefan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:39, Craig B. Allen wrote: If zhone is going to be around for a while, how can I make a request for a new feature? Well, that depends a lot on what kind of feature request this is. As I wrote above, zhone is mostly to test our APIs and implementations. It's not targeted to fullfill all user needs yet. Basic phone functionality is the goal. If it is something in this area feel free to submit a ticket for it: http://trac.freesmartphone.org I take it you'd accept patches to add features to zhone, even if they're unrelated to the framework, no? regards Stefan Schmidt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a tar.gz file would be very useful for booting from SD card... I guess you may convert the contents of the JFFS2 to a tarball by following bits explained here : http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ModifyingRootImage/ In particular somthing like this on a desktop GNU/Linux (if you run 2.6 kernel) : mknod /tmp/mtdblock0 b 31 0 modprobe loop losetup /dev/loop0 Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2 modprobe mtdblock modprobe block2mtd echo /dev/loop0 /sys/module/block2mtd/parameters/block2mtd modprobe jffs2 mount -t jffs2 /tmp/mtdblock0 /media/jffs2 USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISKS ;) I've just tried and install it like that on the SD's ext3 partition, and copied the kernel to the first partition (VFAT). But after booting, I'm stuck with a : Kernel panic - not syncing: No int found. Try passing init= option to kernel. Too bad :( I'll have to flash ? Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Wow that sounds neat! How hard would it be to create an apt | repository on the openmoko build host using this? Then we could just | edit a config and run apt-get ^.^ They're ahead of you, except we aren't hosting it afaik... the Debian image comes with aptitude http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ set up already -- in my Fedora-centric terms this is like having yum with the default repo already configured... it's great. I guess it is the whole Debian packageset out there and everything is configured for desktop / server strength options. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkicUqIACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqRQwCfd7dxUr8+bzBzBi+rzTNZ27bt 0ooAn2rKQO45QTyOErLCHOKRe5j/qUT6 =F29B -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bad A2DP Performance
On Wednesday 06 August 2008 00:17:31 Brad Midgley wrote: Daniel On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Daniel Benoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I reported a problem to the openmoko bug tracker a little while ago and I haven't received any feedback yet. I'm hoping I will get more feedback here. there are two sources of possible trouble for quality, cpu load and timing of bluetooth frames. The cpu is not likely the problem on neo. When driving it through the alsa driver, the neo1973 had really good a2dp performance even on older versions of bluez-utils, much better than the TI cpus (eg in the n800). Did you check the cpu load while playing? I don't have a freerunner, but the cpu is supposed to only be an improvement over the neo1973. btw, what version of bluez-utils is in the system? an aside, the gstreamer plugin has had a performance issue that burns a lot of cpu. I never did isolate it to either the encoder or transmission components. It isn't likely you're using the gstreamer route unless you specifically set out to do it that way. Here's everything I have installed that matched grep blue :p blueprobe - 0.18-r3 - bluez-hcidump - 1.38-r0 - bluez-utils - 3.23-r4 - bluez-utils-alsa - 3.23-r2 - bluez-utils-compat - 3.23-r4 - kernel-module-bluetooth - 2:2.6.24+git29+2c55337cb0cde08203df321a108409b7e33e6904-r2 - libbluetooth2 - 3.23-r0 - task-base-bluetooth - 1.0-r71.02 - I'll be sure to check the CPU usage next time I try it. Packets start to drop when according to l2ping between the phone and the headphones while I'm using it as well. I wonder if that means anything? -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?
Am Freitag 08 August 2008 15:49:51 schrieb Chris Wright: 2008/8/7 Stefan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:39, Craig B. Allen wrote: If zhone is going to be around for a while, how can I make a request for a new feature? Well, that depends a lot on what kind of feature request this is. As I wrote above, zhone is mostly to test our APIs and implementations. It's not targeted to fullfill all user needs yet. Basic phone functionality is the goal. If it is something in this area feel free to submit a ticket for it: http://trac.freesmartphone.org I take it you'd accept patches to add features to zhone, even if they're unrelated to the framework, no? 100% We _love_ patches! -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
On Friday 08 August 2008 10:05:22 Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Wow that sounds neat! How hard would it be to create an apt | repository on the openmoko build host using this? Then we could just | edit a config and run apt-get ^.^ They're ahead of you, except we aren't hosting it afaik... the Debian image comes with aptitude http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ set up already -- in my Fedora-centric terms this is like having yum with the default repo already configured... it's great. I guess it is the whole Debian packageset out there and everything is configured for desktop / server strength options. -Andy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Yeah what I'd like to see is the openmoko packages (like illume and qtopia-x11 and such) ending up in an apt repository. Currently they're only built as .ipk feeds. -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Maybe can help reflashing your u-boot with some actual version... On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olivier Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: a tar.gz file would be very useful for booting from SD card... I guess you may convert the contents of the JFFS2 to a tarball by following bits explained here : http://maemo.org/community/wiki/ModifyingRootImage/ In particular somthing like this on a desktop GNU/Linux (if you run 2.6 kernel) : mknod /tmp/mtdblock0 b 31 0 modprobe loop losetup /dev/loop0 Om2008.8.rootfs.jffs2 modprobe mtdblock modprobe block2mtd echo /dev/loop0 /sys/module/block2mtd/parameters/block2mtd modprobe jffs2 mount -t jffs2 /tmp/mtdblock0 /media/jffs2 USE IT AT YOUR OWN RISKS ;) I've just tried and install it like that on the SD's ext3 partition, and copied the kernel to the first partition (VFAT). But after booting, I'm stuck with a : Kernel panic - not syncing: No int found. Try passing init= option to kernel. Too bad :( I'll have to flash ? Best regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO: is zhone here to stay?
Hello. On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 09:49, Chris Wright wrote: 2008/8/7 Stefan Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:39, Craig B. Allen wrote: If zhone is going to be around for a while, how can I make a request for a new feature? Well, that depends a lot on what kind of feature request this is. As I wrote above, zhone is mostly to test our APIs and implementations. It's not targeted to fullfill all user needs yet. Basic phone functionality is the goal. If it is something in this area feel free to submit a ticket for it: http://trac.freesmartphone.org I take it you'd accept patches to add features to zhone, even if they're unrelated to the framework, no? In a lot cases, yes. I would be a bit carefull about dumping to much in it as we still need to be able to maintain it. But yes, we are looking forward to patches. :) regards Stefan Schmidt signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: opkg can't update in om2008.8?
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 06:22:46PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: Rakshat On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Dietz Proepper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, opkg update on my freshly flashed om 2008.8 seems to be unable to get new packages. The download works ok but then it says Failed to download etc.: is it pinging? You will need to edit /etc/resolv.comf with the correct nameserver address again. Rakshat Yes, Thanks for reply. you can try something like that echo nameserver 168.95.1.1/etc/resolv.conf Best Regards, -Ju1ian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Quasar - Mediaplayer for Openmoko?
Hello, i have no Neo Freerunner yet, but i look forward for a good mediaplayer. I have searched the internet for Zaurus-Media-Players and found Quasar. http://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/software/quasar-media-player/ It's a Qtopia-based-Application. Has anybody tested this player yet? with kind regards Patrick signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
I just change from FSO to OM 2008.8 and I think keyboard is not good as in FSO. I mean, i need full-qwerty-with enter and backspace and arrows. Keyboard layout switching with sliding works great. Backspacing with sliding is cool but I think there should be button too. I installed illume-conf, why there are no preinstalled keyboard? I installed xterm and openmoko-terminal2. When I'm typing, the text not go to terminal, instead it is collected top of keyboard and goes untill I choose them. -AR -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Openmoko-Om-2008.8-Release-tp680370p680819.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 02:27:41PM +0200, Yorick Moko wrote: a tar.gz file would be very useful for booting from SD card... Hi, I put the tar.gz file and hopes it helps :-) http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.8/Om2008.8.rootfs.tar.gz by the way, is uboot file necessary ? Best Regards, -Ju1ian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner-powered bike ride
You can find water-proof cases here. http://www.otterbox.be/index1.html?lang=nlgclid=CJ3C0v_B_pQCFROI1Qod-hyCqg I haven't checked if it actually fits. Peter Nijs Op Monday 04 August 2008 05:27:14 schreef Tim Erwin: I took some photos and uploaded them to my blog: http://andre.web-yard.de/blog/2008/08/03/neo-freerunner-rocks-hard-rides- free/ That looks great! Add a weather proof case/cover and a dynamo charger and that will make for some awesome riding. Cheers, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bad A2DP Performance
Daniel Here's everything I have installed that matched grep blue :p bluez-utils - 3.23-r4 - bluez-utils-alsa - 3.23-r2 - I'll be sure to check the CPU usage next time I try it. iirc, cpu performance is better in 3.25+ but I really don't think that is going to improve your results at this point. It's a timing or signal quality issue. -- Brad ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Hi, by the way, is uboot file necessary ? I think it would be nice to have everything in one place. :-) Marek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Om2008.8 and SIM-Pin
Hello, I got my FR today and I flashed up to Om2008.8. The update works without any problem. After reboot I get the dialog for entering the SIM-Pin. But I can't enter digits, just letters. For my pin I need digits. What's wrong? -- mfg/br, christian weßel Flurstraße 14 29640 Schneverdingen Germany E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Telefon: +49 5193 97 14 95 Mobile: +49 171 357 59 57 http://wesselch.homelinux.org signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2008.8 and SIM-Pin
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Christian Weßel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I got my FR today and I flashed up to Om2008.8. The update works without any problem. After reboot I get the dialog for entering the SIM-Pin. But I can't enter digits, just letters. For my pin I need digits. What's wrong? -- http://wesselch.homelinux.org flick the keyboard up with your finger (slide your finger upwards quickly on the keyboard) is there a wiki page for the qtopia keyboard usage? will help a lot of new users? -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
On Friday 08 August 2008 13:03:32 William Lai wrote: Dear Community, We are proud to announce the release of Om 2008.8 for public reviewing. It represents our current state of development over the last 6 months. We came a long way before achieving this milestone. Here is what you can expect: I think this should be additionally announced at the announce mailing list. Thanks for everything Greets Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FSO ringtone
Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote: Dale Maggee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * IK+ Music * R-Type Theme * Maniac Mansion Theme * RoboCop Music * Bubble Bobble Theme where is skate or die? /me loves the 4 bit samples. clemens Wow, it seems that there's a C64 game I haven't played! :O ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner ?hibernates? while flashing?
I also have experienced this annoing shutdowns while I was in U-Boot, but not during flashing. Peter Op Thursday 07 August 2008 22:36:27 schreef Christophe Badoit: Rorschach a écrit : Hi, when I go into the NOR-Flash to flash my rootfs or the kernel and I do nothing for ~30 sec the screen gets dark. What happens? Is it just hibernating or shutting down? I have to press the aux-button a lot but this is really annonying. But the real question: what happens if I flash an image and do not press the aux-button all the time? The same like I'm just normal in the menu? So does it shutdown and abort the flashing while the transfer? I read in the wiki (don't know where / when) that : - uboot shuts down after 30s of inactivity - transferring via dfu prevents shutting down signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
On 2008-08-08 10:00:44 +0800, Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Fr 8. August 2008 schrieb Joshua Broussard: Suggest you pull the GTA01 and properly strip out the material protected by NDA. I can see it in part by highlighting all text on page. Sorry, I don't understand exactly what you're complaining about? I think he's able to make some invisible text (e.g., white print on white background) visible by selecting it and concludes that the hidden text is protected by NDA and was not intended to be published. Of course if he's right he should have contacted you privately instead of making cryptic remarks on a public list. hp PS: I can't read any of the text in http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/GTA01/Schematic_1973-GTA01_public_RC0.pdf My acrobat reader complains about the missing font Tahoma. -- _ | Peter J. Holzer| Openmoko has already embedded |_|_) | Sysadmin WSR | voting system. | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Named If you want it -- write it __/ | http://www.hjp.at/ | -- Ilja O. on community@lists.openmoko.org signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:56 AM, Peter J. Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] hp PS: I can't read any of the text in http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/GTA01/Schematic_1973-GTA01_public_RC0.pdf My acrobat reader complains about the missing font Tahoma. -- _ | Peter J. Holzer| Openmoko has already embedded |_|_) | Sysadmin WSR | voting system. | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Named If you want it -- write it __/ | http://www.hjp.at/ | -- Ilja O. on community@lists.openmoko.org I get a similar complaint from my Adobe Reader but about a font named ARMingtiMBIG-5 (BIG-5 sure sounds like some asian font (chinese?)) Antoine PS: you may be able to find a free copy of Tahoma somewhere, google is your friend... I couldn't easily find my missing font though.. (and I already had Tahoma) -- Antoine Reid ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Sean: Please authorise the release of GTA01 schematics
haha wow...it's been a long time in making, but you guys have finally done it. I really have to commend the entire OM staff for their true dedication! I am seriously contemplating release of my own video entitled, ROFLWS: Rolling on floor laughing, with schematics! And only on this ML could I say something so bizarre as the above, and still get chuckles... good job guys. -Kyle PS- and you never know, ROFLWS might just catch on :-P On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Joerg Reisenweber [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Am Sa 2. August 2008 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber: Am So 20. Juli 2008 schrieb Rod Whitby: Sean, please release the hardware schematics and pcb layout and component placements for the GTA01. Let the GTA01 run free and continue to impact the material world. Respectfully, -- Rod Whitby PCB-layout is a little difficult to release - this is a multilayer PCB. Component placement 01/02 TBD. Schematics 01 TBD. Needs some prettyprinting first. Also there are NDA-issues with TI Calypso. Those parts of schematics we mustn't release you may find elsewhere though (heard sth about Chinese books on cellphones ;) Stay assured we won't forget on GTA01 owners. cheers jOERG added GTA01, component-placement for 01 and 02 see http://people.openmoko.org/joerg and http://downloads.openmoko.org/schematics/ for some echo in press see http://www.google.de/search?q=openmoko+schematics please note this is a RC, not a gold Feel free to comment! cheers jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade
I installed official ASU, but it can't connect to the internet (it connected fine, prior to ASU upgrade). To establish usb networking I run this script as sudo in Ubuntu: #!/bin/bash iptables -F ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 route add 192.168.0.202 usb0 iptables -I INPUT 1 -s 192.168.0.202 -j ACCEPT iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -s 192.168.0.200 -j ACCEPT iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 bash -c echo '1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' This allows me to ssh into the phone: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] But after I log in, I try ping google.com and it says it's a bad address. And if I go to the Installer gui, it says there's a problem with my network. ifconfig shows the following: loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:372 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:372 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:30168 (29.4 KiB) TX bytes:30168 (29.4 KiB) usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 26:89:D4:D8:38:1C inet addr:192.168.0.202 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::2489:d4ff:fed8:381c/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:388 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:186 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:46744 (45.6 KiB) TX bytes:23237 (22.6 KiB) I see a lot of RX/TX packet errors. Could that be a clue? What am I doing wrong? Dimitri -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/can%27t-connect-to-internet-after-ASU-upgrade-tp681131p681131.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS working with SIMYO
Jakob Steltner wrote: Am Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:36:07 -0700 schrieb Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Michael Kluge wrote: Hi all, Woo-hoo -- I managed to get an GPRS connection: Please add your scripts and instructions to the wiki! This is excellent information. Thanks, Michael I added my scripts for connecting to simyo to the wiki, I think they are originally based on his work. ~ Jakob Excellent - thanks very much Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Bad A2DP Performance
On Friday 08 August 2008 11:19:58 Brad Midgley wrote: Daniel Here's everything I have installed that matched grep blue :p bluez-utils - 3.23-r4 - bluez-utils-alsa - 3.23-r2 - I'll be sure to check the CPU usage next time I try it. iirc, cpu performance is better in 3.25+ but I really don't think that is going to improve your results at this point. It's a timing or signal quality issue. Apparently others are having problems too, it seems. Perhaps the signal in the freerunner is underpowered? Although I would have thought that with my headphones close enough to touch the phone it would have worked :/ -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade
Can it be that your /etc/resolv.conf is empty? Checkout the Known Issues: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om_2008.8#Known_Issues ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing
Hi, I just installed the latest tangogps (0.9.2-r1) on 2008.8. Several GUI widgets aren't drawing properly, which were fine on other distributions. On the bottom left hand corner I see maps but none of the other tabs to the right are shown, its black. However if I tap in the black area, the page loads properly (trip, config, etc). If I'm on the trip page, I can see the trip tab, but the rest are black. On the map page, the fullscreen button on the top is cut off. I also can't see the autocenter button. Is this happening to other people with 2008.8? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade
Actually it's saying Packets: X, Errors: Y (0 errors on the output you pasted) Also, I'm not sure about what ASU does by default, but have you checked the default route? The 'gateway 192.168.0.200' line in /etc/network/interfaces should be under usb0, and you should see it when you run 'ip route show' (default via ADDRESS dev usb0). Google should also be able to provide you more information about how to set and examine default routes. If it's a freerunner, you may also want to consider getting it on a wireless network for simplicity's sake. On Friday 08 August 2008 13:00:27 Dimitri wrote: I installed official ASU, but it can't connect to the internet (it connected fine, prior to ASU upgrade). To establish usb networking I run this script as sudo in Ubuntu: #!/bin/bash iptables -F ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 route add 192.168.0.202 usb0 iptables -I INPUT 1 -s 192.168.0.202 -j ACCEPT iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -s 192.168.0.200 -j ACCEPT iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 bash -c echo '1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' This allows me to ssh into the phone: ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] But after I log in, I try ping google.com and it says it's a bad address. And if I go to the Installer gui, it says there's a problem with my network. ifconfig shows the following: loLink encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1 RX packets:372 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:372 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:30168 (29.4 KiB) TX bytes:30168 (29.4 KiB) usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 26:89:D4:D8:38:1C inet addr:192.168.0.202 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::2489:d4ff:fed8:381c/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:388 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:186 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:46744 (45.6 KiB) TX bytes:23237 (22.6 KiB) I see a lot of RX/TX packet errors. Could that be a clue? What am I doing wrong? Dimitri -- Daniel Benoy http://daniel.benoy.name signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade
Daniel Benoy wrote: have you checked the default route? The 'gateway 192.168.0.200' line in /etc/network/interfaces should be under usb0, and you should see it when you run 'ip route show' (default via ADDRESS dev usb0). I think it's set up properly. I get the following when I run: ip route show 192.168.0.0/24 dev usb0 src 192.168.0.202 default via 192.168.0.200 dev usb0 And, I get the following when I run: cat /etc/network/interfaces # /etc/network/interfaces -- configuration file for ifup(8), ifdown(8) # The loopback interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # Wireless interfaces iface wlan0 inet dhcp wireless_mode managed wireless_essid any iface atml0 inet dhcp # Wired or wireless interfaces iface eth0 inet dhcp iface eth1 inet dhcp # Ethernet/RNDIS gadget (g_ether) # ... or on host side, usbnet and random hwaddr auto usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.202 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 gateway 192.168.0.200 # Bluetooth networking iface bnep0 inet dhcp Daniel Benoy wrote: If it's a freerunner, you may also want to consider getting it on a wireless network for simplicity's sake. Under settings, it says WiFi but doesn't say on OR off. It's just blank. And if I click it, it says WiFi unknown. Anyway... one problem at a time, right? :) Dimitri -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/can%27t-connect-to-internet-after-ASU-upgrade-tp681131p681236.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2
Please wikify this information http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO Feel free to change. / Fredrik signature.asc Description: Detta är en digitalt signerad meddelandedel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2
Fredrik Wendt wrote: Please wikify this information http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO Feel free to change. Lovely. Thank you very much! M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade
Hi Dimitri, For USB connection you may try http://svn.openmoko.org/developers/tick/Test_env_script_GTA02A5/setneo If you want wifi connection, you may try to reference: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Om2008.8_Installer#Add_repository_manually for geek part. :-) in WEP please assign the key e.g. iwconfig eth0 essid X key [1] 987654310 That works for me. Cheers, Tick On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 10:00:27AM -0700, Dimitri wrote: I installed official ASU, but it can't connect to the internet (it connected fine, prior to ASU upgrade). To establish usb networking I run this script as sudo in Ubuntu: #!/bin/bash iptables -F ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 route add 192.168.0.202 usb0 iptables -I INPUT 1 -s 192.168.0.202 -j ACCEPT iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -s 192.168.0.200 -j ACCEPT iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 bash -c echo '1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward' Skip I see a lot of RX/TX packet errors. Could that be a clue? What am I doing wrong? Dimitri -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/can%27t-connect-to-internet-after-ASU-upgrade-tp681131p681131.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing
Yes Also I had it crash many times while on the config page. I was trying to set it to use my previously downloaded maps in the /media/card/Maps/osm directory. And it crashes with the popup about reporting the error. On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, I just installed the latest tangogps (0.9.2-r1) on 2008.8. Several GUI widgets aren't drawing properly, which were fine on other distributions. On the bottom left hand corner I see maps but none of the other tabs to the right are shown, its black. However if I tap in the black area, the page loads properly (trip, config, etc). If I'm on the trip page, I can see the trip tab, but the rest are black. On the map page, the fullscreen button on the top is cut off. I also can't see the autocenter button. Is this happening to other people with 2008.8? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Geoff Ruscoe Sigma Visions Computer Consulting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quasar - Mediaplayer for Openmoko?
Patrick Beck wrote: Hello, i have no Neo Freerunner yet, but i look forward for a good mediaplayer. I have searched the internet for Zaurus-Media-Players and found Quasar. http://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/software/quasar-media-player/ It's a Qtopia-based-Application. Has anybody tested this player yet? Probably not, as it is for Qtopia 2, and would most likely have to be rewritten for Qtopia 4. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Thanks for the update but its got a few issues. For starters why was the terminal removed from the default image? This is a beta linux device, there are a ton of time having a terminal is a good thing. And I'm not always someplace I can plug it in. Second, whats with the constant run to hibernate in 6 seconds? Even if plugged into USB, it hibernates. And why does it drop the USB-net connection when it hibernates? While this release is prettier, I haven't been able to even make one call with it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Quasar - Mediaplayer for Openmoko?
Hello Lorn, thanks for your answer. It's a pity. with kind regards Patrick Beck Am Samstag, den 09.08.2008, 04:30 +1000 schrieb Lorn Potter: Patrick Beck wrote: Hello, i have no Neo Freerunner yet, but i look forward for a good mediaplayer. I have searched the internet for Zaurus-Media-Players and found Quasar. http://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/software/quasar-media-player/ It's a Qtopia-based-Application. Has anybody tested this player yet? Probably not, as it is for Qtopia 2, and would most likely have to be rewritten for Qtopia 4. signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Upgrading on Qtopia
Hey all, I've read that opkg can't upgrade qtopia, but it should be able to upgrade my kernel, correct? Well, when I do opkg update, opkg upgrade my phone will spend about 20-30 minutes updating everything (from the latest qtopia image on trolltech's website) and I need a lot of those packages (such as libc++6) for running other scripts on qtopia. Anyways, after upgrading, I restart my phone and it freezes on the blank black screen with a cursor in the upper left corner. The phone won't ever boot! So I have to reflash the lastest image I just tried to upgrade. I've attempted this twice, and I can't upgrade my phone! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on FreeRunner
Hi,
Daniel Benoy schrieb:
Wow that sounds neat! How hard would it be to create an apt repository on
the openmoko build host using this? Then we could just edit a config and run
apt-get ^.^
It is not hard. In fact for Jalimo we are packaging OE-built packages
for Maemo: http://jalimo.evolvis.org/repository/maemo/
You can find information on how to set up a repo on the Debian website.
Basically you have to set up the correct folders and then run the
following programs across it:
dpkg-scanpackages -a armel pool/${1} /dev/null | gzip -c9
dists/${1}/user/binary-armel/Packages.gz
dpkg-scansources pool/${1} /dev/null | gzip -c9
dists/${1}/user/binary-armel/Sources.gz
${1} is the distro name. That would be 2008.08 for the OpenMoko OS. :)
However you should know that OpenMoko is tailored to work with opkg. I
am not sure what will break if you use dpkg and apt-get/aptitude on it.
I would also modify the openmoko image definition to not include opkg
and instead apt. Angstrom - the distro - OpenMoko is derived from - has
support for .deb packages. Perhaps the easiest way is to look how it is
done there.
Btw: OE can also create RPMs. :)
Regards
Robert
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Re: Which ATT data plans are compatible?
ian douglas wrote: Ken Restivo wrote: They actually hire people to sit around and snoop people's UserAgent strings? It's easy to automate since surfing non-SSL sites should send your HTTP headers in plain text, so they you can simply watch the packets and keep track of data counts, browsers, etc. for each wireless account. Their unlimited data plan used to be $20/month but they raised it to $30 for the new iPhone. Tethering adds even more because they expect that you'll be downloading much more data than users who don't tether. So unlimited data isn't unlimited at all? As far as I've seen, personally, it's unlimited. Of course, I tend not to tether my ATT phone to my laptop and download ISO-sized files or anything. I'm sure if you reach a certain amount of traffic, they'll notice you. Last month I only downloaded about 60MB on my phone. But I'm told that Sprint Metro PCS allows unlimited data, and tethering, for US$60/mo That's slightly cheaper than ATT then, who charges me $69/month for unlimited data plus tethering. -id ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Instead of just tethering couldn't you set up a proxy server on your OM and since the user agent is in plain text, change firefox to minimo? I imagine the user agent signatures are pretty similar. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Will this be shipping with the next batch of Freerunners? -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPRS for FSO Milestone 2
I have copied Fredrik's shell scripts to my FR with FSO MS2 and find that they work much better than my own. I'll have to find some other way to contribute. Chris On Aug 8, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Michael Shiloh wrote: Fredrik Wendt wrote: Please wikify this information http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GPRS_FSO Feel free to change. Lovely. Thank you very much! M ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
full-keyboard for Om 2008.08?
Hello there! i like the new look of the freerunner, but what i don't like is the keyboard. is there a possibility to re-install a full qwerty KB or something like that? navigate in terminal with the standard-kb is terrible. thanks, Arne ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Upgrading on Qtopia
Matthew Lane wrote: Hey all, I've read that opkg can't upgrade qtopia, but it should be able to upgrade my kernel, correct? Well, when I do opkg update, opkg upgrade my phone will spend about 20-30 minutes updating everything (from the latest qtopia image on trolltech's website) and I need a lot of those packages (such as libc++6) for running other scripts on qtopia. Anyways, after upgrading, I restart my phone and it freezes on the blank black screen with a cursor in the upper left corner. The phone won't ever boot! So I have to reflash the lastest image I just tried to upgrade. I've attempted this twice, and I can't upgrade my phone! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Thank you - I thought I was the only one. I registered this as a bug on Trac (https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1756) but more or less got told to go ask Trolltech about it, which is fair enough I suppose. It would still be nice to get a fix for this however. Aaron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: can't connect to internet after ASU upgrade
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I installed official ASU, but it can't connect to the internet (it connected | fine, prior to ASU upgrade). | inet6 addr: fe80::2489:d4ff:fed8:381c/64 Scope:Link ipv6 is up, does it make trouble on you local network? Otherwise, eyeball dmesg and see if there is any clue. - -Andy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkicogcACgkQOjLpvpq7dMqnvgCeKveh6LxrFp01HLyR3lZzxHaA CKsAn2FWggbprnQqtelWxQZZagIrJ1Qx =Cth6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Upgrading on Qtopia
Matthew Lane wrote: Hey all, I've read that opkg can't upgrade qtopia, but it should be able to upgrade my kernel, correct? Thats correct, Qtopia's 4.3 build system does not make a complete ipkg for easy upgrade. This will change in 4.4 Well, when I do opkg update, opkg upgrade my phone will spend about 20-30 minutes updating everything (from the latest qtopia image on trolltech's website) and I need a lot of those packages (such as libc++6) for running other scripts on qtopia. Anyways, after upgrading, I restart my phone and it freezes on the blank black screen with a cursor in the upper left corner. The phone won't ever boot! So I have to reflash the lastest image I just tried to upgrade. I've attempted this twice, and I can't upgrade my phone! There is a new image at qtopia.net. This new one _should_ be able to upgrade the system. As well, there is a qtopia binary only tarball which has a script to update just qtopia in case you don't want to backup your settings. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Trolltech, a Nokia company ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Which ATT data plans are compatible?
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 9:15 PM, Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Instead of just tethering couldn't you set up a proxy server on your OM and since the user agent is in plain text, change firefox to minimo? I imagine the user agent signatures are pretty similar. I had a similar situation with Vodafone in Italy. They disallowed tethering and blocked all non port 80 / 443, and seemed to disallow any other user agent strings besides mobile browesers. But if you have a server somewhere that has SSH, an easy enough solution is just to use ProxyTunnel to tunnel SSH over HTTPS (due to the way SSL proxies work). For the real paranoid, check out SSH over SSL over SSL, where you run your own SSL proxy server, which then gets connected to by the network's proxy, and then forwards everything to your local SSH server. This pretty much makes the traffic indestinguashable from legit SSL traffic. HTH, Federico ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangospg and 2008.8 - gui not drawing
Steven Kurylo wrote:
Hi,
I just installed the latest tangogps (0.9.2-r1) on 2008.8. Several
GUI widgets aren't drawing properly, which were fine on other
distributions.
On the bottom left hand corner I see maps but none of the other tabs
to the right are shown, its black. However if I tap in the black
area, the page loads properly (trip, config, etc). If I'm on the trip
page, I can see the trip tab, but the rest are black.
On the map page, the fullscreen button on the top is cut off. I
also can't see the autocenter button.
Is this happening to other people with 2008.8?
Yes, the gtk theme is a bit buggy, attached my own fixed gtkrc which
reduces the inner button borders to a reasonable size and fixes the
background colour of inactive notebook tabs.
This makes both tangogps and some other GTK apps much more usable.
You can either install it by overwriting
/usr/share/themes/Moko/gtk-2.0/gtkrc or I think by sticking it in
~/.gtkrc-2.0
Cheers,
Mike.
# Moko GTK+ theme
#
# Copyright 2007 OpenedHand Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Based on OpenedHand's Sato GTK+ Theme
#
# This theme uses several style properties introduced in GTK+ 2.10
#
# black: #33
# orange: #ff7d00
#
gtk-button-images = 0
gtk-menu-images = 0
gtk-icon-sizes =
gtk-button=32,32:gtk-small-toolbar=48,48:gtk-large-toolbar=48,48
# Set the default gtk-color-scheme property
gtk_color_scheme =
fg_color:#000;bg_color:#f4f0f4;base_color:#fff;text_color:#000;selected_bg_color:#ff7d00;selected_fg_color:#000
style default
{
xthickness = 2
ythickness = 2
GtkButton::default_border = {0, 0, 0, 0}
GtkButton::focus-line-width = 0
GtkCheckButton::indicator-size = 35
GtkCheckButton::indicator-spacing = 5
GtkCheckMenuItem::indicator_size = 18
GtkEntry::inner_border = {10, 10, 10, 10}
GtkFrame::shadow_type = GTK_SHADOW_NONE
GtkPaned::handle-size = 16
GtkRange::slider-width = 28
GtkRange::trough_border = 0
GtkScale::slider-length = 56
GtkScrollbar::has_backward_stepper = 1
GtkScrollbar::has_forward_stepper = 1
GtkScrollbar::has_secondary_backward_stepper = 1
GtkScrollbar::has_secondary_forward_stepper = 1
GtkScrollbar::slider_width = 30
GtkScrollbar::stepper_size = 26
GtkScrollbar::stepper_spacing = 0
GtkSpinButton::shadow_type = GTK_SHADOW_NONE
GtkTreeView::allow_rules = 1
GtkTreeView::even_row_color = #fff
GtkTreeView::odd_row_color = #e7e7e7
GtkTreeView::vertical_separator = 6
GtkWidget::focus_line_width = 2
GtkWidget::focus_padding = 0
GtkWidget::scroll-arrow-vlength = 48
GtkWidget::scroll-arrow-hlength = 48
MokoDialerTextview::large_font = 20
MokoDialerTextview::medium_font = 15
MokoDialerTextview::medium_font = 15
MokoDialerTextview::small_font = 10
fg [NORMAL] = @fg_color
fg [PRELIGHT] = @fg_color
fg [ACTIVE] = @selected_fg_color
fg [INSENSITIVE] = @fg_color
fg [SELECTED] = @selected_fg_color
bg [NORMAL] = @bg_color
bg [PRELIGHT] = @bg_color
bg [ACTIVE] = @selected_bg_color
bg [INSENSITIVE] = lighter (@bg_color)
bg [SELECTED] = @selected_bg_color
text [NORMAL] = @text_color
text [PRELIGHT] = @text_color
text [SELECTED] = @text_color
text [ACTIVE] = @text_color
base [NORMAL] = @base_color
base [SELECTED] = @selected_bg_color
base [ACTIVE] = @base_color
engine moko-engine {
border = TRUE
}
}
class GtkWidget style default
style reversed
{
bg[NORMAL] = @fg_color
fg[NORMAL] = @bg_color
bg[PRELIGHT] = @fg_color
fg[PRELIGHT] = @bg_color
}
widget_class *GtkButton* style reversed
style button
{
GtkButton::inner_border = {1, 1, 1, 1}
engine moko-engine {
border = TRUE
gradient = TRUE
}
}
class GtkButton style button
style button-colors {
bg[NORMAL] = #333
fg[NORMAL] = #fff
bg[PRELIGHT] = #333
fg[PRELIGHT] = #fff
}
widget_class GtkButton* style button-colors
style treeview-header {
# inner-border was added in GTK+ 2.10
GtkButton::inner_border = {0, 0, 0, 0}
bg[NORMAL] = #eee
fg[NORMAL] = #000
bg[PRELIGHT] = #eee
fg[PRELIGHT] = #000
engine moko-engine {
border = FALSE
gradient = TRUE
}
}
widget_class *GtkTreeView.GtkButton* style treeview-header
style combo {
bg[NORMAL] = @selected_bg_color
text[NORMAL] = @selected_fg_color
bg[PRELIGHT] = @selected_bg_color
text[PRELIGHT] = @selected_fg_color
engine moko-engine {
gradient = TRUE
}
}
widget_class *Combo* style combo
style toolbar
{
GtkToolbar::internal_padding = 0
xthickness = 0
ythickness = 0
engine moko-engine {
gradient = TRUE
border = FALSE
}
}
class GtkToolbar style toolbar
class GtkToolbar style reversed
style toolitem
{
xthickness = 12
ythickness = 12
bg[NORMAL] = @selected_bg_color
fg[NORMAL] = @selected_fg_color
# toolbar colours are reversed
bg[PRELIGHT] = @fg_color
fg[PRELIGHT] = @bg_color
engine moko-engine {
gradient = TRUE
border = FALSE
}
}
widget_class *Tool*GtkToggleButton style toolitem
widget_class *Tool*GtkButton style toolitem
SF User's Group - Meetup?
Hi - I'm new to OpenMoko (I don't even have a device yet) Personally I'm interested as an end-user; I know we're not there yet, but I'm fairly techie so I thought I'd jump in early. The company I work with is a supporter of OpenMoko and open source - and we have space to host user groups in San Francisco!Please respond on this list if you would be interested in a user's group meeting - maybe once every 1-2 months - here in SF? Fwiw - I was the person who was collecting names and addresses at the OpenMoko booth at LinuxExpo - so if you signed up there, you'll probably see another email from me. Do other local users groups set up a seperate email list for meetup announcements? Anyone got an extra mailman install to use for this purpose, so we don't have to resort to GoogleGroups? ;-) Take care, Greg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
2008.08 - First Impressions
I've been playing with 2008.08 for a little while now, and I thought I'd share some first impressions. Firstly, it's *gorgeous* - eyecandy city! I *really* like the look and feel of it! It's much more friendly and less 'clunky' feeling than 2007.2. I had a couple of issues on first boot - It seemed _very_ slow - I'm talking 5-10 seconds between me pressing something and getting any feedback on the keypad at the PIN entry screen. After a reboot this seems to have gone away. Also I find the default sleep time painfully short, and I don't think it should go straight into sleep - there should be a period where it dims / turns off the screen but doesn't actually sleep, like in 2007.2 The graphical installer is great! I really like this, although I agree with the opinion stated elsewhere that the text is too big, and I'd really like to see the 'description' text on the package details screen, so that I know what the package is (names aren't always that informative). Pet peeves / suggestions: * Power management - still doesn't work properly - exactly the same problem as 2007.2 - the phone wakes up when a call comes in, but doesn't make any noise. If I answer the phone, I can't hear the other person and they can't hear me. This leave me with two options - turn off power management, or be prepared to reboot the phone and call people back, neither of which is particularly good. * keyboard - Predictive text is annoying as hell. I really don't think this is neccessary for a qwerty keyboard. I love the predictive text on my nokia phone that I have for work, but it only has a numeric keypad. The whole point of qwerty IMHO is being able to type quickly, and the predictive text just seems to get in the way of this. There should at least be a way to turn off the predictive text. also I find the way it automatically inserts spaces frustrating - it took me *far* to long to enter the address of my mail server when setting it up for email - the lack of consistent copy and paste also attributed to this. - I'd like to see letters on the numeric keypad screen. For example, the PIN on my sim card is a word typed using the numbers on my phone keypad, not a number - I have no idea what the numbers in my PIN are! in order to enter my pin using this numpad, I have to get out my nokia and look at it's keypad and then type in the numbers. I also think that the conventional numpad layout (123 \n 456 \n 789 \n *0#) would make it easier to use, although this may just take a bit of time to adapt to.. - Enter Key - I'd really like to see an enter key on the qwerty keyboard, in addition to getting rid of the predictive text. This would make using the terminal MUCH easier. I'd also like to see a period and hyphen on the qwerty keyboard, for the same reasons (would vastly improve using the terminal). * The clock should be an application, not hidden away in settings * Installer should be in settings, I don't really think it needs to be on the home screen * using the Aux button for lock is nice, but I think it should be harder to unlock - there's a chance (admittedly small) that aux might get pressed in my pocket. Personally, I really liked the screen lock on 2007.2, where you had to drag one icon onto the other - I thought that this was a novel and very functional unlock mechanism. * The home screen needs a way to set up categories/ folders - I can see it getting *very* cluttered if I install alot of applications Overall, I think that openmoko have made a *big* leap forward with 2008.08, keep up the great work! -Dale ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SF User's Group - Meetup?
That sounds great, let me know if you get something going. On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Consulting Goat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi - I'm new to OpenMoko (I don't even have a device yet) Personally I'm interested as an end-user; I know we're not there yet, but I'm fairly techie so I thought I'd jump in early. The company I work with is a supporter of OpenMoko and open source - and we have space to host user groups in San Francisco!Please respond on this list if you would be interested in a user's group meeting - maybe once every 1-2 months - here in SF? Fwiw - I was the person who was collecting names and addresses at the OpenMoko booth at LinuxExpo - so if you signed up there, you'll probably see another email from me. Do other local users groups set up a seperate email list for meetup announcements? Anyone got an extra mailman install to use for this purpose, so we don't have to resort to GoogleGroups? ;-) Take care, Greg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
