Re: Questions and Answers
Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009, Sean Moss-Pultz a écrit : Now we're again struggling with closed firmwares (both the Calypso and the Atheros module). I would love to just make our own WiFi chip, but Openmoko doesn't have the volume to return our investment in such a technology endeavor. Hello Sean, I always wondered why you were not reusing XO's wifi chip subsystem (Marvell 88W8388) ? OLPC has already mesh networking and I guess good integration in the kernel. Too expensive, proprietary, complicated ? Minh -- Minh HA DUONG, Chargé de Recherche, CNRS CIRED, Centre International de Recherches sur l'Environnement et le Développement http://minh.haduong.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)
I think that the problem of the error message is not killing mplayer, but the outer script gets reported to stop unexpectly. Propably there should be implemented a signal handler. Lothar Chris Samuel wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:17:56 am Daniel Nöthen wrote: What you probably mean is the killall -SIGKILL command which kills the process without giving it the chance for run any cleanup routines. It depends on what the programmer has specified signal handlers for, so if they'd coded something just to deal with a user getting disconnected (SIGHUP) but not for ^C (SIGTERM) then you're better off sending that program SIGHUP rather than SIGTERM. Not to mention submitting a patch make it handle SIGTERM too.. ;-) Fortunately mplayer does the right thing in this case. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-mplayer-with-seme-desktop-symbols-for-streaming-stations-and-wlan-%3A-%29-tp2107090p2108651.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner
So, I want to start my Freerunner development back up. I was thinking of a few different Apps to write, please give your comments (Tell me what you want): A) Assassin game A game where you can 'kill' other Openmokos, it would like Via Bluetooth/Wifi. This would mostly be a gimmick based off of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin_%28game%29 B) Open Source Push Everybody has heard of Push, right. This whole Push E-mail, Push application notification. I was basically playing with the idea of writing a push framework for the Freerunner. People could write apps that would be triggered by emails, weather changes, etc. C) Traffic monitoring, and call management This idea entails that when you are driving at high speeds on the roads, it'll put your phone into a silent profile mode. It could also setup call forwarding/allow an SMS to come in that would unlock the freerunner's mode, in case of emergency call. Now one thing, I'm planning on charging for these apps. A tiny bit, but still a bit. I need the cash. So, tell me what do you guys want to buy first? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner
Hello Sargun. Yes I have a few programs I would like to pay for a little (as I did for windows) 1) a keyboard, yes yet an otherone, like Touchpal. See http://www.CooTek.com. TouchPal is an innovative soft keyboard on Windows Mobile platform, powered by T+ input technology. Why TouchPal? It's Cool! Flow your keyboard by sweeping with your finger! Switch between three layouts: T+, Full-Qwerty, 9-key PhonePad. Resize your keyboard anytime! It's Easy! Big buttons. Finger friendly. Up to 300 chars/min, faster than your hard keyboard! Input puntuations, numbers and uppercase letters without view switching It's Smart! Powerful mistyping correction Clever prediction based on context Predict next word It's Innovative! T+ technology. Predictive + Precise. Word association Super big dictionaries (40,000 English words, 140,000 French words...) It's Customizable! My Sentences with parameters (e.g., See you in X mins) Customizable emotion symbols (e.g. :-o, ^_^) You can develop your own layout or language pack with SDK tool. 2) My agenda on my Desktop just like alarmToday see http://www.pocketmax.net starting apps and turning on/off wifi bluethooth is already don by Openmokopanel 3) Make Openmokopanel better, less cpu and mem, possibility to make it lager (my eyes are getting less) This are my 2 cents (willing to pay a little bit more =^D, see price's an the website's above. payment by paypall??) hope this is wat you want, Greetings, Jos. Sargun Dhillon wrote: So, I want to start my Freerunner development back up. I was thinking of a few different Apps to write, please give your comments (Tell me what you want): A) Assassin game A game where you can 'kill' other Openmokos, it would like Via Bluetooth/Wifi. This would mostly be a gimmick based off of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin_%28game%29 B) Open Source Push Everybody has heard of Push, right. This whole Push E-mail, Push application notification. I was basically playing with the idea of writing a push framework for the Freerunner. People could write apps that would be triggered by emails, weather changes, etc. C) Traffic monitoring, and call management This idea entails that when you are driving at high speeds on the roads, it'll put your phone into a silent profile mode. It could also setup call forwarding/allow an SMS to come in that would unlock the freerunner's mode, in case of emergency call. Now one thing, I'm planning on charging for these apps. A tiny bit, but still a bit. I need the cash. So, tell me what do you guys want to buy first? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Offer-to-write-some-neat-programs-for-the-Freerunner-tp2108659p2108818.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)
Hi Guys I am using a shell script on Ubuntu which uses mplayer to play internet (streaming) radio stations. I attached the script in this email. I haven't yet tried it on the freerunner, but I should probably work. It has been written by french people, so the radio are french ones, but it can be adapted. Happy new year 2009/1/4 lollisoft lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de I think that the problem of the error message is not killing mplayer, but the outer script gets reported to stop unexpectly. Propably there should be implemented a signal handler. Lothar Chris Samuel wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:17:56 am Daniel Nöthen wrote: What you probably mean is the killall -SIGKILL command which kills the process without giving it the chance for run any cleanup routines. It depends on what the programmer has specified signal handlers for, so if they'd coded something just to deal with a user getting disconnected (SIGHUP) but not for ^C (SIGTERM) then you're better off sending that program SIGHUP rather than SIGTERM. Not to mention submitting a patch make it handle SIGTERM too.. ;-) Fortunately mplayer does the right thing in this case. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-mplayer-with-seme-desktop-symbols-for-streaming-stations-and-wlan-%3A-%29-tp2107090p2108651.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community radios_073d.sh Description: Bourne shell script ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow
Now i see what you meant in navit (1885). Only in the gui internal the setting 3D exist, not in the gui gtk. Now when i click on 3D and change back to the map it is showm in 3D mode. yes, i use gui internal But the problem is that the map is vry slow in 3D mode. I tried it on my pc first and it needed ~5s to drag the map from A to B. I think the problem is that in 3D mode navit still shows all items on the map which results in overfilling at the horizon. I attached a screenshot from my pc which shows the problem. for some reason, i am not sure that it is that slow on my fr, but i couldn't really use it either as the cursor is wrong way and therefore the maps shows what's behind my car rather then in front of it :) i think this is broken now in the 2D view as well... I played a bit with the tilt=... parameter in navit.xml which should adjust the tilt of the 3D view but it seems to have no effect. Also i can't find any parameter to adjust the viewdistance for items on the map or the map itself which should increase the speed a great bit. i haven't had time to try to tweak those settings What settings do you use that it is acceptable fast when you are using the 3D view on your freerunner? actually, my navit.org was attached to my email 29 Dec 2008 22:09:40 just i bit up in this thread. no special settings, i only got uncommented settings for more on screen display items. Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Help with Om.2008.12 on microsd
Don't know if this is expected behaviour, but when I moved rw part before all other kernel parameters: r...@om-gta02:~# cat /boot/append-GTA02 rw console=tty0 loglevel=8 rootdelay=1 now Neo boots fine with Qi and finally shows Illume desktop and everything. 2009/1/4 Evgeny Karyakin anthropophag...@gmail.com: 2008/12/30 Andy Green a...@openmoko.com: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Em Sab, Dezembro 27, 2008 04:06, Kosa escreveu: | I've been trying to boot 2008.12 from a microsd but it just can't. | It starts booting but then it stops with an Only GTA01 hardware | supported by ASoc driver message. | | Happens to me also, but after that message I also have the following | messages (not sure if they change from boot to boot): | | Unknown HZ value! (87) Assume 100. | mount: special device /dev/mmcblkp01 does not exist | ALSA: restoring mixer settings... | Configuring network interfaces... /usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1327: No | soundcards found... | ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): usb0: link is not ready | done. | | I can shutdown by holding the power button. | I have FDOM in the same card and it works fine. I was just meddling with this in NAND, I believe that ro on the kernel commandline is fatal for startup of 2008.12. When I removed it from Qi, 2008.08 started up OK. So check your U-Boot env if you're using that for ro, or try adding rw to /boot/append-GTA02 if you are on SD Card and Qi. It's pretty common to boot with rootfs ro initially... I have these problems also, and adding rw to append-GTA02 didn't solve it. Full content of my /boot/append-GTA02 is this: console=tty0 loglevel=8 rootdelay=1 rw (brainless copy-paste of everything related from Qi wiki page[1]). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow
may someone who has a navit package build for Debian/arm working post here his package for a test? it might be statistically relevant... thanks d On 1/4/09, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: Now i see what you meant in navit (1885). Only in the gui internal the setting 3D exist, not in the gui gtk. Now when i click on 3D and change back to the map it is showm in 3D mode. yes, i use gui internal But the problem is that the map is vry slow in 3D mode. I tried it on my pc first and it needed ~5s to drag the map from A to B. I think the problem is that in 3D mode navit still shows all items on the map which results in overfilling at the horizon. I attached a screenshot from my pc which shows the problem. for some reason, i am not sure that it is that slow on my fr, but i couldn't really use it either as the cursor is wrong way and therefore the maps shows what's behind my car rather then in front of it :) i think this is broken now in the 2D view as well... I played a bit with the tilt=... parameter in navit.xml which should adjust the tilt of the 3D view but it seems to have no effect. Also i can't find any parameter to adjust the viewdistance for items on the map or the map itself which should increase the speed a great bit. i haven't had time to try to tweak those settings What settings do you use that it is acceptable fast when you are using the 3D view on your freerunner? actually, my navit.org was attached to my email 29 Dec 2008 22:09:40 just i bit up in this thread. no special settings, i only got uncommented settings for more on screen display items. Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
i have to confess that, despite of reading your postings, i still fail to understand what exactly you are doing -- and moreover, i got the distinct impression, that a lot of your questions is caused by not doing rtfm (archives, wiki, ...) With the image from today in testing I get a fix and it seems to work. But with tangogps I then indeed get the message 'no gps found'. I have looked if gpsd is running but none of gpsd or fso-gpsd is running. Starting it with 'gpsd /dev/ttySAC1' works for me. that for one is a fine example for what i was saying above. someone already explained to you, that using gpsd in fso is not recommended! accessing the gps device while fso manages it and thus bypassing frameworkd is a big DON'T -- explained already several times in the lists. for running gpsd based apps with fso you have to use fso-gpsd -- fso-gpsd emulates the gpsd interface while working with fso. remove gpsd, install/enable fso-gpsd (check the /etc/rc?.d/ folders) and you are good. ps: please be more specific if ask -- i for one do not know what kind of image fso (more homework) is exactly, how it is preconfigured and what it contains. make it people easy to help you! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Navit] Installation fails on fso image from today (2009-04-01)
Hi, I have installed the current testing image of FSO from today and getting the following error: echo src navit http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn /etc/opkg/navit-feed.conf opkg update opkg install navit Installing navit (svn-1885) to root... Downloading http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn/navit-svn-1885_armv4t.opk navit: unsatisfied recommendation for speechd navit: unsatisfied recommendation for flite Collected errors: * ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for navit: * gtk+-fastscaling (= 2.10.14) * r...@om-gta02:~# What am I doing wrong ? Thanks Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Navit--Installation-fails-on-fso-image-from-today-%282009-04-01%29-tp2109272p2109272.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Questions and Answers
On 1/4/09 Minh Ha Duong wrote: Le dimanche 04 janvier 2009, Sean Moss-Pultz a écrit : Now we're again struggling with closed firmwares (both the Calypso and the Atheros module). I would love to just make our own WiFi chip, but Openmoko doesn't have the volume to return our investment in such a technology endeavor. Hello Sean, I always wondered why you were not reusing XO's wifi chip subsystem (Marvell 88W8388) ? OLPC has already mesh networking and I guess good integration in the kernel. Too expensive, proprietary, complicated ? Too big :/ OLPC uses the 8388 chipset. We needed to use the 8686 or the newer (bluetooth+wifi) 8688 variant. Those are built for mobile phones. -Sean ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net writes: Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? USB Car Adapter from http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.688 is only $2.58 and works for me. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)
I've seen one in the angstom-distribution's repo. depeje On Sunday 04 January 2009 15:30:13 lollisoft wrote: Hi, I am sad. The new version in testing from today does not contain an installable mplayer. Where must I go to download one for my FR ? Thanks Lothar kimaidou wrote: Hi Guys I am using a shell script on Ubuntu which uses mplayer to play internet (streaming) radio stations. I attached the script in this email. I haven't yet tried it on the freerunner, but I should probably work. It has been written by french people, so the radio are french ones, but it can be adapted. Happy new year 2009/1/4 lollisoft lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de I think that the problem of the error message is not killing mplayer, but the outer script gets reported to stop unexpectly. Propably there should be implemented a signal handler. Lothar Chris Samuel wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:17:56 am Daniel Nöthen wrote: What you probably mean is the killall -SIGKILL command which kills the process without giving it the chance for run any cleanup routines. It depends on what the programmer has specified signal handlers for, so if they'd coded something just to deal with a user getting disconnected (SIGHUP) but not for ^C (SIGTERM) then you're better off sending that program SIGHUP rather than SIGTERM. Not to mention submitting a patch make it handle SIGTERM too.. ;-) Fortunately mplayer does the right thing in this case. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-mplayer-with-seme-desktop-symbols-for-streami ng-stations-and-wlan-%3A-%29-tp2107090p2108651.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
With the image from today in testing I get a fix and it seems to work. But with tangogps I then indeed get the message 'no gps found'. I have looked if gpsd is running but none of gpsd or fso-gpsd is running. Starting it with 'gpsd /dev/ttySAC1' works for me. Now I'll try navit while getting a Döner :-) Lothar lollisoft wrote: Using sdcard for debian may be no problem. What I currently don't know, is if I still can use uBoot or have to install Qi with seems may fail. I don't want to kill the boot manager accidantly and then be unable to reflash :-) But this is RTFM I must do :-( BTW, I have a 16GB card that is working - at least seen with navit accessing the germany.bin file :-) Currently I download the new FSO image from today to see if there are no more problems with GPS. What has been failed is upgrading from 4.1 to testing as I then no more have any XServer or GUI :-( Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: If the versions are compareable than it seems that your fso-frameworkd is newer (0.8.4.40.8.4.3) and fso-gpsd is older (0.70.8). The only thing i know is that i had much problems with older fso-gpsd versions and now it works without problems. Maybe this is a point where you could investigate. Debian uses the complete fso framework inclusive zhone as phone application. I prefer debian because i have access to much more programs than with any other distro. Even things like openoffice, wireshark, firefox etc is available for the freerunner in debian. :) The other side is that it doesn't fit into the 256MB nand flash. The default install uses nearly 1GB but there seems to be people who tries to fit a slimed version into nand. But for me this is no problem if i have to install it on my sd-card (8GB). In return i have a full linux with normal windowmanager and all possibilities i want and need. The downside of this is that it is slower and consumes more memory than most other distros. I think with a bit less ressource hungry windowmanager it will improve quite a bit. But at the moment i use xfce with all nice extras. ;) Good thing is that i have one distro in nand and debian on my sd-card. So i can boot what i want when i want. Ciao, Rainer lollisoft wrote: Sorry, my post should look like this :-) That's what I see when list installed: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep gps fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - tangogps - 0.9.3-r3.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep framework frameworkd - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - frameworkd-config - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep fso fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - fso-sounds - 0.0.1+gitrb24d3c2e66fee10a5e288101cd1b6f5bbd3da7e2-r0.1 - task-fso-compliance - 1.0-r1.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Nov 18 18:04:32 CET 2008 armv4tl unknown And - I am not using debian. My OS is FSO milestone 4.1 aka 'more homework'. Another question: Has debian also the possibility to run Zhone ? Do you prefer debian before FSO ? Is debian as small to fit in internal flash (not on /media/card) ? This phone software is compact and therefore fast. Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I use debian with fso and when i install fso-gpsd no gpsd is installed as dependency because it would make no sense. Fso-gpsd IS the gpsd compatibility wrapper which does the same what gpsd does for the client applications. So be sure not to have fso-gpsd and gpsd installed. Both programs try to access the gps which doesn't work. My current version of fso-gpsd in debian is 0.8-2 and my fso-frameworkd is 0.8.4.3-20081215-1. Both are from the official debian repository. lollisoft wrote: I haven't success. My FSO is the 'more homework' version 4.1. Installing gpsd really installs fso-gpsd. Installing tangogps complains about having two versions matching gpsg, eg. the fso-gpsd and the compatibility (gpsd) wrapper that seems to be installed with fso-gpsd. What version do you use exactly (image locations) ? Tahnks Lothar lollisoft wrote: Thanks, I'll try that too. Also when the connections to the port are more than 0 it could be useful to disabling illume to lower the brightness and the like. Is this possible within a script ? Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I did nothing special. I only deinstalled gpsd and installed fso-gpsd. Some time ago fso-gpsd wasn't working good at all. But a few weeks ago i tried again to replace gpsd with fso-gpsd and since than it works ok. Interesting is that with fso-gpsd the gps chip is activated as soon as a connection to the fso-gpsd port is opened. And it is deactivated when the last connection closes. This feature has pros and cons but at the moment i like it. :) Ciao, Rainer
Re: [2008.testing] GPS after resume
nice! but would it not be possible to let the gps poweroff and artificially feed it the last known sattelite positions? so that i can get a hot-start after suspend, without using more power? anyway, thanks for your contribution! y On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Vladimir Koutny vl...@moko.ksp.sk wrote: i was thinking about this the other day. the gps has it's own processor, correct, and can act independently of the cpu? i'm wondering if it's possible for the gps to keep it's fix while the main cpu is in suspend. power usage will be higher than a full suspend, but the phone will have a fix as soon as it resumes. is there any reason why this can't happen? I wrote attached patch for this few days ago - it is against mwester's stable kernel so probably still needs some tweaks for 2.6.28 series. Simply 'echo 1 /sys/bus/i2c/devices/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/keep_on_in_suspend' and it will stay alive during suspend (echo 0 to turn it off - this is also the default). It also fixes a bug with re-enabling GPS on resume when it was on before (keep_on_in_suspend=0). I'm going to split this into 2 patches and send it to devel soon. vlado ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: A simple wifi solution for FSO ...
Hi, I haven't the wpa-conf executable on my FSO 4.1. Also I have grepped for it with opkg list | grep wpa. Where did I get this script / application ? With this and with more than one configuration in wpa_supplicant.conf, do I get a uninteruptable wlan, if both wlans are in the same house while I am walking around in it ? Meaning, I listen to a shoutcast stream witn mplayer :-) Thanks Lothar Samuel Pereira wrote: nice idea - it would be even nicer if it could be consolidated into one script, which checks the current state of the network devices, and switches the two to their opposite state. one less icon on the desktop I already have done this, you can check and download a file here http://blog.samuelpereira.net/?p=4 Thanks, Samuel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/A-simple-wifi-solution-for-FSO-...-tp2106354p2108781.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)
This is not required. It seems that the feeds are set up a little bit later. Now I am listening again :-) Lothar Peter Nijs wrote: I've seen one in the angstom-distribution's repo. depeje On Sunday 04 January 2009 15:30:13 lollisoft wrote: Hi, I am sad. The new version in testing from today does not contain an installable mplayer. Where must I go to download one for my FR ? Thanks Lothar kimaidou wrote: Hi Guys I am using a shell script on Ubuntu which uses mplayer to play internet (streaming) radio stations. I attached the script in this email. I haven't yet tried it on the freerunner, but I should probably work. It has been written by french people, so the radio are french ones, but it can be adapted. Happy new year 2009/1/4 lollisoft lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de I think that the problem of the error message is not killing mplayer, but the outer script gets reported to stop unexpectly. Propably there should be implemented a signal handler. Lothar Chris Samuel wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:17:56 am Daniel Nöthen wrote: What you probably mean is the killall -SIGKILL command which kills the process without giving it the chance for run any cleanup routines. It depends on what the programmer has specified signal handlers for, so if they'd coded something just to deal with a user getting disconnected (SIGHUP) but not for ^C (SIGTERM) then you're better off sending that program SIGHUP rather than SIGTERM. Not to mention submitting a patch make it handle SIGTERM too.. ;-) Fortunately mplayer does the right thing in this case. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-mplayer-with-seme-desktop-symbols-for-streami ng-stations-and-wlan-%3A-%29-tp2107090p2108651.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-mplayer-with-seme-desktop-symbols-for-streaming-stations-and-wlan-%3A-%29-tp2107090p2109631.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Help with Om.2008.12 on microsd
2008/12/30 Andy Green a...@openmoko.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: | Em Sab, Dezembro 27, 2008 04:06, Kosa escreveu: | I've been trying to boot 2008.12 from a microsd but it just can't. | It starts booting but then it stops with an Only GTA01 hardware | supported by ASoc driver message. | | Happens to me also, but after that message I also have the following | messages (not sure if they change from boot to boot): | | Unknown HZ value! (87) Assume 100. | mount: special device /dev/mmcblkp01 does not exist | ALSA: restoring mixer settings... | Configuring network interfaces... /usr/sbin/alsactl: load_state:1327: No | soundcards found... | ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): usb0: link is not ready | done. | | I can shutdown by holding the power button. | I have FDOM in the same card and it works fine. I was just meddling with this in NAND, I believe that ro on the kernel commandline is fatal for startup of 2008.12. When I removed it from Qi, 2008.08 started up OK. So check your U-Boot env if you're using that for ro, or try adding rw to /boot/append-GTA02 if you are on SD Card and Qi. It's pretty common to boot with rootfs ro initially... I have these problems also, and adding rw to append-GTA02 didn't solve it. Full content of my /boot/append-GTA02 is this: console=tty0 loglevel=8 rootdelay=1 rw (brainless copy-paste of everything related from Qi wiki page[1]). Problem is, I can't even tell for sure if Neo (Qi actually) boots from uSD or NAND. Hurting my eyes on running on-screen log I saw something like Waiting for 1sec before rootfs, which suggests that it's Qi taking appeng-GTA02 into consideration. Still I have multiple read-only filesystem tar warnings. Every power-up after battery out+in gives Neo several seconds to boot up -- detailed logs on screen -- then it just switches off. Next boots freezes like described by other people in this thread. First successful boot freezed on these lines in on-screen log: asoc: WM8753 HiFi - s3c24xx-2c mapping ok asoc: WM8753 Voice - Bluetooth mappgin ok Only GTA01 hardware supported by ASoc driver Next successful boot ended up with previous lines plus this (... means long message): mount: special device /dev/mmcblk0p1 does not exist ALSA: ... ... load_state:1327: No soundcard found... usb0: link is not ready done. And it freezed again. uSD card must be good, because I can read-write it through notebook card reader and if I go to NAND menu and modify boot command line to load from uSD, it works just fine. Behaviour is unstable: I could boot (from NAND!) *once* while trying to boot from uSD/Qi , and it's the same with 2008.12 release as well as with 04.01.2009 testing. I also boot with SIM card inserted so weak uSD reader contacts shouldn't be an issue. Should I return to u-boot technique for starting up Neo? I wanted to give Qi a try for it is a modern way of doing things. [1]http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Qi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 03:06 -0800, lollisoft wrote: Just an idea, I haven't seen quickly which car charger or other charger works without more than yust pluging it into the USB slot. A table stating this would be quite good :-) Using the 12V/220V converter is another option - even a more universal one :-) Another question: Does someone have seen a docking station like item to place the phone when driving with navigation. This could also have a built in car charger :-) Thanks Lothar I just bought a cheap car charger which has a USB slot, and I must say it works very well with the FreeRunner. As a bonus, I can also charge my other Samsung phone with it (with the USB data cable that came with it :)) Then I also bought a cheap (5 €) mobile holder for the car - modified it slightly and now it holds my FR for GPS navigation and I can still plug in the charger, so that the display doesn't dim while navigating ;). Benedikt Olivier Berger wrote: Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net writes: Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? Hi. I suppose that you might find interesting hints (or improve it when you've found what you need) in : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger I myself used this model : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger#sold_as_.22Essentiel_b_.28Boulanger.29.22_Chargeur_allume-cigares.2FUSB but I assume you won't find the same in an australian store :( Regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.testing] GPS after resume
i was thinking about this the other day. the gps has it's own
processor, correct, and can act independently of the cpu? i'm
wondering if it's possible for the gps to keep it's fix while the main
cpu is in suspend. power usage will be higher than a full suspend, but
the phone will have a fix as soon as it resumes. is there any reason
why this can't happen?
I wrote attached patch for this few days ago - it is against mwester's stable
kernel so probably still needs some tweaks for 2.6.28 series.
Simply 'echo 1
/sys/bus/i2c/devices/0-0073/neo1973-pm-gps.0/keep_on_in_suspend'
and it will stay alive during suspend (echo 0 to turn it off - this is also the
default).
It also fixes a bug with re-enabling GPS on resume when it was on before
(keep_on_in_suspend=0).
I'm going to split this into 2 patches and send it to devel soon.
vlado
diff -Naur knife-kernel-orig/arch/arm/mach-s3c2440/mach-gta02.c knife-kernel/arch/arm/mach-s3c2440/mach-gta02.c
--- knife-kernel-orig/arch/arm/mach-s3c2440/mach-gta02.c 2008-11-18 02:15:36.0 +0100
+++ knife-kernel/arch/arm/mach-s3c2440/mach-gta02.c 2009-01-01 10:56:31.0 +0100
@@ -714,6 +714,7 @@
PMU_VRAIL_F_UNUSED;
gta02_pcf_pdata.rails[PCF50633_REGULATOR_LDO5] = ((struct pmu_voltage_rail) {
.name = rf_3v,
+ .flags = PMU_VRAIL_F_SUSPEND_ON,
.voltage = {
.init = 0,
.max = 3000,
diff -Naur knife-kernel-orig/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c knife-kernel/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c
--- knife-kernel-orig/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c 2008-11-18 02:15:36.0 +0100
+++ knife-kernel/arch/arm/plat-s3c24xx/neo1973_pm_gps.c 2009-01-03 16:29:05.0 +0100
@@ -35,6 +35,7 @@
struct neo1973_pm_gps_data {
int power_was_on;
+ int keep_on_in_suspend;
};
static struct neo1973_pm_gps_data neo1973_gps;
@@ -271,9 +272,6 @@
/* This is the POWERON pin */
static void gps_pwron_set(int on)
{
-
- neo1973_gps.power_was_on = !!on;
-
#ifdef CONFIG_MACH_NEO1973_GTA01
if (machine_is_neo1973_gta01())
neo1973_gpb_setpin(GTA01_GPIO_GPS_PWRON, on);
@@ -354,6 +352,17 @@
return 0;
}
+/* This is the flag for keeping gps ON during suspend */
+static void gps_keep_on_in_suspend_set(int on)
+{
+ neo1973_gps.keep_on_in_suspend = on;
+}
+
+static int gps_keep_on_in_suspend_get(void)
+{
+ return neo1973_gps.keep_on_in_suspend;
+}
+
static ssize_t power_gps_read(struct device *dev,
struct device_attribute *attr, char *buf)
{
@@ -374,6 +383,8 @@
} else if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, power_core_1v5) ||
!strcmp(attr-attr.name, power_vdd_core_1v5)) {
ret = gps_power_1v5_get();
+ } else if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, keep_on_in_suspend)) {
+ ret = gps_keep_on_in_suspend_get();
}
if (ret)
@@ -393,6 +404,7 @@
} else if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, power_avdd_3v)) {
gps_power_3v_set(on);
} else if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, pwron)) {
+ neo1973_gps.power_was_on = !!on;
gps_pwron_set(on);
} else if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, reset)) {
gps_rst_set(on);
@@ -403,6 +415,8 @@
} else if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, power_core_1v5) ||
!strcmp(attr-attr.name, power_vdd_core_1v5)) {
gps_power_1v5_set(on);
+ } else if (!strcmp(attr-attr.name, keep_on_in_suspend)) {
+ gps_keep_on_in_suspend_set(on);
}
return count;
@@ -496,6 +510,7 @@
static DEVICE_ATTR(power_vdd_core_1v5, 0644, power_gps_read, power_gps_write);
static DEVICE_ATTR(power_sequence, 0644, power_sequence_read,
power_sequence_write);
+static DEVICE_ATTR(keep_on_in_suspend, 0644, power_gps_read, power_gps_write);
#ifdef CONFIG_PM
static int gta01_pm_gps_suspend(struct platform_device *pdev,
@@ -509,8 +524,14 @@
#endif /* CONFIG_MACH_NEO1973_GTA01 */
#ifdef CONFIG_MACH_NEO1973_GTA02
- if (machine_is_neo1973_gta02())
- gps_pwron_set(0);
+ if (machine_is_neo1973_gta02()) {
+ if (!neo1973_gps.keep_on_in_suspend ||
+ !neo1973_gps.power_was_on)
+ gps_pwron_set(0);
+ else
+ dev_warn(pdev-dev, GTA02: keeping gps ON
+ during suspend\n);
+ }
#endif /* CONFIG_MACH_NEO1973_GTA02 */
return 0;
@@ -526,7 +547,7 @@
#ifdef CONFIG_MACH_NEO1973_GTA02
if (machine_is_neo1973_gta02())
- if (neo1973_gps.power_was_on)
+ if (!neo1973_gps.keep_on_in_suspend neo1973_gps.power_was_on)
gps_pwron_set(1);
#endif /* CONFIG_MACH_NEO1973_GTA02 */
@@ -556,6 +577,7 @@
static struct attribute *gta02_gps_sysfs_entries[] = {
dev_attr_pwron.attr,
+ dev_attr_keep_on_in_suspend.attr,
NULL
};
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Re: Car Charger?
Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net writes: Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? Hi. I suppose that you might find interesting hints (or improve it when you've found what you need) in : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger I myself used this model : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger#sold_as_.22Essentiel_b_.28Boulanger.29.22_Chargeur_allume-cigares.2FUSB but I assume you won't find the same in an australian store :( Regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
If the versions are compareable than it seems that your fso-frameworkd is newer (0.8.4.40.8.4.3) and fso-gpsd is older (0.70.8). The only thing i know is that i had much problems with older fso-gpsd versions and now it works without problems. Maybe this is a point where you could investigate. Debian uses the complete fso framework inclusive zhone as phone application. I prefer debian because i have access to much more programs than with any other distro. Even things like openoffice, wireshark, firefox etc is available for the freerunner in debian. :) The other side is that it doesn't fit into the 256MB nand flash. The default install uses nearly 1GB but there seems to be people who tries to fit a slimed version into nand. But for me this is no problem if i have to install it on my sd-card (8GB). In return i have a full linux with normal windowmanager and all possibilities i want and need. The downside of this is that it is slower and consumes more memory than most other distros. I think with a bit less ressource hungry windowmanager it will improve quite a bit. But at the moment i use xfce with all nice extras. ;) Good thing is that i have one distro in nand and debian on my sd-card. So i can boot what i want when i want. Ciao, Rainer lollisoft wrote: Sorry, my post should look like this :-) That's what I see when list installed: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep gps fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - tangogps - 0.9.3-r3.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep framework frameworkd - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - frameworkd-config - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep fso fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - fso-sounds - 0.0.1+gitrb24d3c2e66fee10a5e288101cd1b6f5bbd3da7e2-r0.1 - task-fso-compliance - 1.0-r1.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Nov 18 18:04:32 CET 2008 armv4tl unknown And - I am not using debian. My OS is FSO milestone 4.1 aka 'more homework'. Another question: Has debian also the possibility to run Zhone ? Do you prefer debian before FSO ? Is debian as small to fit in internal flash (not on /media/card) ? This phone software is compact and therefore fast. Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I use debian with fso and when i install fso-gpsd no gpsd is installed as dependency because it would make no sense. Fso-gpsd IS the gpsd compatibility wrapper which does the same what gpsd does for the client applications. So be sure not to have fso-gpsd and gpsd installed. Both programs try to access the gps which doesn't work. My current version of fso-gpsd in debian is 0.8-2 and my fso-frameworkd is 0.8.4.3-20081215-1. Both are from the official debian repository. lollisoft wrote: I haven't success. My FSO is the 'more homework' version 4.1. Installing gpsd really installs fso-gpsd. Installing tangogps complains about having two versions matching gpsg, eg. the fso-gpsd and the compatibility (gpsd) wrapper that seems to be installed with fso-gpsd. What version do you use exactly (image locations) ? Tahnks Lothar lollisoft wrote: Thanks, I'll try that too. Also when the connections to the port are more than 0 it could be useful to disabling illume to lower the brightness and the like. Is this possible within a script ? Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I did nothing special. I only deinstalled gpsd and installed fso-gpsd. Some time ago fso-gpsd wasn't working good at all. But a few weeks ago i tried again to replace gpsd with fso-gpsd and since than it works ok. Interesting is that with fso-gpsd the gps chip is activated as soon as a connection to the fso-gpsd port is opened. And it is deactivated when the last connection closes. This feature has pros and cons but at the moment i like it. :) Ciao, Rainer lollisoft wrote: Hi, what did you made to get GPS working in general ? See my post about GPS ... Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: Since a few weeks i'm using fso-gpsd without any big problems so far. The only problem is that the TTFF (time to first fix) is always 1 minute and sometimes it needs quite a lot of time. The only solution for me to be sure to get a fix within 30 sec is to use the agps tool which downloads the almanac and ephemeris from ublox for my region. The problem is, that the gps chip doesn't have any internal memory why it needs to download all relevant gps data every time it is powered up. So i thought if it is possible to save the relevant gps data before shutting down the gps which can be done by fso-gpsd or kernel automatically. Than after starting the gps fso-gpsd/kernel feeds back the data to speed up the TTFF. This would be the same way most gps receivers work. Maybe this is already implemented somewhere but i don't think so
[2008.12] Best media player?
i have 2008.12 working great on my FR as a phone. But the image did not come with a preinstalled media player. SO I was wondering what would be the best media (just music) player option that can be installed on om 2008.12. I was quite happy with the QT Extended media played so can that be installed on OM 2008.12? Rakshat -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS looses fix too early (inhouse)
Hi, I have had Om2008/9 before FSO and with that I had also not my new SDHC card (16GB). With that differences in mind: What could I do to check why the GPS seems to be less stable than before ? Get the clock speed for both cards to compare, if they are different ? When different, reducing clock speed of new SD card ? Or is there still an issue with the current FSO image from today ? My phone is a FR with hardware fix for the SD card issue. Thanks Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/GPS-looses-fix-too-early-%28inhouse%29-tp2110015p2110015.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Navit desktop symbol not visible in FSO ?
On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM, lollisoft lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote: Hi, the current navit release seems to have a new desktop symbol, but it didn't show up on FSO (Installed 'more Homework'). The files are here /usr/share/icons/hicolor/22x22/apps/navit.png and /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/apps/navit.png And the desktop file is here /usr/share/applications/navit.desktop What's wrong ? Thanks Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Navit-desktop-symbol-not-visible-in-FSO---tp2105678p2105678.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community hi lothar, you might want to read http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Customize_Application_Icons Also i noticed that you may have to change the section Categories= in the respective .desktop file, because some keywords like e.g. Utilitiy let it appear on the desktop and some don't. Maybe someone else knows more about this. Jake ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] navit: rendering is slow
Petr Vanek wrote: On Sat, 03 Jan 2009 23:47:59 +0100 Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net (FM) wrote: Petr Vanek wrote: On Mon, 29 Dec 2008 21:38:51 +0100 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de (AA) wrote: i use navit on regularly routes over 120km with no performance problems on SHR (voice enabled). - which gui? - which version? - which map (size of area covered)? - care to post your navit.xml? i have been using navit on freerunner a lot lately and really love the new 3D view (although the latest build moved the view from front to back :) (i suppose this is due to wrong cursor orientation). How do you switch to 3D view in navit? The only option which changes the view is the menu entry for projection. But none of the two selectable views looks like the 3d pictures on the navit homepage. And in navit.xml i can't find any 3D options. So please light me up a bit. :) Ciao, Rainer i use svn versions, right now navit - svn-1882 this is my feed: src navit http://download.navit-project.org/navit/openmoko/svn The 3D option is in the menu Settings - Display - 3D When it first appeared about a week ago it was really different from what 3D should be but after update yesterday it already does have 3D look. only (as i mentioned already) it seems to travel in wrong direction. Now i see what you meant in navit (1885). Only in the gui internal the setting 3D exist, not in the gui gtk. Now when i click on 3D and change back to the map it is showm in 3D mode. But the problem is that the map is vry slow in 3D mode. I tried it on my pc first and it needed ~5s to drag the map from A to B. I think the problem is that in 3D mode navit still shows all items on the map which results in overfilling at the horizon. I attached a screenshot from my pc which shows the problem. I played a bit with the tilt=... parameter in navit.xml which should adjust the tilt of the 3D view but it seems to have no effect. Also i can't find any parameter to adjust the viewdistance for items on the map or the map itself which should increase the speed a great bit. What settings do you use that it is acceptable fast when you are using the 3D view on your freerunner? Ciao, Rainer inline: Navit-3D.png___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
Just an idea, I haven't seen quickly which car charger or other charger works without more than yust pluging it into the USB slot. A table stating this would be quite good :-) Using the 12V/220V converter is another option - even a more universal one :-) Another question: Does someone have seen a docking station like item to place the phone when driving with navigation. This could also have a built in car charger :-) Thanks Lothar Olivier Berger wrote: Gothnet openm...@nastylittlehorse.net writes: Has anyone found a car charger that would work to supply power to the FR running as a navigation aid? Hi. I suppose that you might find interesting hints (or improve it when you've found what you need) in : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger I myself used this model : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_charger#sold_as_.22Essentiel_b_.28Boulanger.29.22_Chargeur_allume-cigares.2FUSB but I assume you won't find the same in an australian store :( Regards, -- Olivier BERGER (OpenPGP: 1024D/B4C5F37F) http://www.olivierberger.com/weblog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Car-Charger--tp2106770p2108815.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (OM2008.12) Blackness
Did you have waited a while ? Choosen also the right uImage ? Lothar Paul-8 wrote: Hi all, I know, I am going through distro's like crazy, but that's how I am. I flashed OM2008.12 but I can't keep it going. It boots, and after something like only 30 seconds it already blanks the screen and plays dead. Is there some setting I can adjust quickly to keep it working? Paul -- Better than a thousand days of diligent study is one day with a great teacher. -Japanese proverb http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/%28OM2008.12%29-Blackness-tp2109101p2109115.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
That's what I see when list installed: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep gps fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - tangogps - 0.9.3-r3.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep framework frameworkd - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - frameworkd-config - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep fso fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - fso-sounds - 0.0.1+gitrb24d3c2e66fee10a5e288101cd1b6f5bbd3da7e2-r0.1 - task-fso-compliance - 1.0-r1.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Nov 18 18:04:32 CET 2008 armv4tl unknown Fox Mulder wrote: I use debian with fso and when i install fso-gpsd no gpsd is installed as dependency because it would make no sense. Fso-gpsd IS the gpsd compatibility wrapper which does the same what gpsd does for the client applications. So be sure not to have fso-gpsd and gpsd installed. Both programs try to access the gps which doesn't work. My current version of fso-gpsd in debian is 0.8-2 and my fso-frameworkd is 0.8.4.3-20081215-1. Both are from the official debian repository. And - I am not using debian. My OS is FSO milestone 4.1 aka 'more homework'. Another question: Has debian also the possibility to run Zhone ? Do you prefer debian before FSO ? Is debian as small to fit in internal flash (not on /media/card) ? This phone software is compact and therefore fast. Thanks Lothar lollisoft wrote: I haven't success. My FSO is the 'more homework' version 4.1. Installing gpsd really installs fso-gpsd. Installing tangogps complains about having two versions matching gpsg, eg. the fso-gpsd and the compatibility (gpsd) wrapper that seems to be installed with fso-gpsd. What version do you use exactly (image locations) ? Tahnks Lothar lollisoft wrote: Thanks, I'll try that too. Also when the connections to the port are more than 0 it could be useful to disabling illume to lower the brightness and the like. Is this possible within a script ? Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I did nothing special. I only deinstalled gpsd and installed fso-gpsd. Some time ago fso-gpsd wasn't working good at all. But a few weeks ago i tried again to replace gpsd with fso-gpsd and since than it works ok. Interesting is that with fso-gpsd the gps chip is activated as soon as a connection to the fso-gpsd port is opened. And it is deactivated when the last connection closes. This feature has pros and cons but at the moment i like it. :) Ciao, Rainer lollisoft wrote: Hi, what did you made to get GPS working in general ? See my post about GPS ... Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: Since a few weeks i'm using fso-gpsd without any big problems so far. The only problem is that the TTFF (time to first fix) is always 1 minute and sometimes it needs quite a lot of time. The only solution for me to be sure to get a fix within 30 sec is to use the agps tool which downloads the almanac and ephemeris from ublox for my region. The problem is, that the gps chip doesn't have any internal memory why it needs to download all relevant gps data every time it is powered up. So i thought if it is possible to save the relevant gps data before shutting down the gps which can be done by fso-gpsd or kernel automatically. Than after starting the gps fso-gpsd/kernel feeds back the data to speed up the TTFF. This would be the same way most gps receivers work. Maybe this is already implemented somewhere but i don't think so because the TTFF without agps is always quite slow. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--Speed-gps-time-to-firxt-fix-up--tp2105634p2108853.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
Using sdcard for debian may be no problem. What I currently don't know, is if I still can use uBoot or have to install Qi with seems may fail. I don't want to kill the boot manager accidantly and then be unable to reflash :-) But this is RTFM I must do :-( BTW, I have a 16GB card that is working - at least seen with navit accessing the germany.bin file :-) Currently I download the new FSO image from today to see if there are no more problems with GPS. What has been failed is upgrading from 4.1 to testing as I then no more have any XServer or GUI :-( Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: If the versions are compareable than it seems that your fso-frameworkd is newer (0.8.4.40.8.4.3) and fso-gpsd is older (0.70.8). The only thing i know is that i had much problems with older fso-gpsd versions and now it works without problems. Maybe this is a point where you could investigate. Debian uses the complete fso framework inclusive zhone as phone application. I prefer debian because i have access to much more programs than with any other distro. Even things like openoffice, wireshark, firefox etc is available for the freerunner in debian. :) The other side is that it doesn't fit into the 256MB nand flash. The default install uses nearly 1GB but there seems to be people who tries to fit a slimed version into nand. But for me this is no problem if i have to install it on my sd-card (8GB). In return i have a full linux with normal windowmanager and all possibilities i want and need. The downside of this is that it is slower and consumes more memory than most other distros. I think with a bit less ressource hungry windowmanager it will improve quite a bit. But at the moment i use xfce with all nice extras. ;) Good thing is that i have one distro in nand and debian on my sd-card. So i can boot what i want when i want. Ciao, Rainer lollisoft wrote: Sorry, my post should look like this :-) That's what I see when list installed: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep gps fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - tangogps - 0.9.3-r3.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep framework frameworkd - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - frameworkd-config - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep fso fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - fso-sounds - 0.0.1+gitrb24d3c2e66fee10a5e288101cd1b6f5bbd3da7e2-r0.1 - task-fso-compliance - 1.0-r1.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Nov 18 18:04:32 CET 2008 armv4tl unknown And - I am not using debian. My OS is FSO milestone 4.1 aka 'more homework'. Another question: Has debian also the possibility to run Zhone ? Do you prefer debian before FSO ? Is debian as small to fit in internal flash (not on /media/card) ? This phone software is compact and therefore fast. Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I use debian with fso and when i install fso-gpsd no gpsd is installed as dependency because it would make no sense. Fso-gpsd IS the gpsd compatibility wrapper which does the same what gpsd does for the client applications. So be sure not to have fso-gpsd and gpsd installed. Both programs try to access the gps which doesn't work. My current version of fso-gpsd in debian is 0.8-2 and my fso-frameworkd is 0.8.4.3-20081215-1. Both are from the official debian repository. lollisoft wrote: I haven't success. My FSO is the 'more homework' version 4.1. Installing gpsd really installs fso-gpsd. Installing tangogps complains about having two versions matching gpsg, eg. the fso-gpsd and the compatibility (gpsd) wrapper that seems to be installed with fso-gpsd. What version do you use exactly (image locations) ? Tahnks Lothar lollisoft wrote: Thanks, I'll try that too. Also when the connections to the port are more than 0 it could be useful to disabling illume to lower the brightness and the like. Is this possible within a script ? Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I did nothing special. I only deinstalled gpsd and installed fso-gpsd. Some time ago fso-gpsd wasn't working good at all. But a few weeks ago i tried again to replace gpsd with fso-gpsd and since than it works ok. Interesting is that with fso-gpsd the gps chip is activated as soon as a connection to the fso-gpsd port is opened. And it is deactivated when the last connection closes. This feature has pros and cons but at the moment i like it. :) Ciao, Rainer lollisoft wrote: Hi, what did you made to get GPS working in general ? See my post about GPS ... Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: Since a few weeks i'm using fso-gpsd without any big problems so far. The only problem is that the TTFF (time to first fix) is always 1 minute and sometimes it needs quite a lot of time. The only solution for me to
Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)
Hi, I am sad. The new version in testing from today does not contain an installable mplayer. Where must I go to download one for my FR ? Thanks Lothar kimaidou wrote: Hi Guys I am using a shell script on Ubuntu which uses mplayer to play internet (streaming) radio stations. I attached the script in this email. I haven't yet tried it on the freerunner, but I should probably work. It has been written by french people, so the radio are french ones, but it can be adapted. Happy new year 2009/1/4 lollisoft lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de I think that the problem of the error message is not killing mplayer, but the outer script gets reported to stop unexpectly. Propably there should be implemented a signal handler. Lothar Chris Samuel wrote: On Sun, 4 Jan 2009 11:17:56 am Daniel Nöthen wrote: What you probably mean is the killall -SIGKILL command which kills the process without giving it the chance for run any cleanup routines. It depends on what the programmer has specified signal handlers for, so if they'd coded something just to deal with a user getting disconnected (SIGHUP) but not for ^C (SIGTERM) then you're better off sending that program SIGHUP rather than SIGTERM. Not to mention submitting a patch make it handle SIGTERM too.. ;-) Fortunately mplayer does the right thing in this case. -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-mplayer-with-seme-desktop-symbols-for-streaming-stations-and-wlan-%3A-%29-tp2107090p2108651.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Using-mplayer-with-seme-desktop-symbols-for-streaming-stations-and-wlan-%3A-%29-tp2107090p2109195.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
Sorry, my post should look like this :-) That's what I see when list installed: r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep gps fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - tangogps - 0.9.3-r3.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep framework frameworkd - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - frameworkd-config - 0.8.4.4+gitrbfddd4c28c6dc9d211f1cd78bb4acdafde1aa438-r0.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# opkg list_installed | grep fso fso-gpsd - 0.7+gitr8f82d35ae83fdc00f2c4786257e98551b9dea995-r0.1 - fso-sounds - 0.0.1+gitrb24d3c2e66fee10a5e288101cd1b6f5bbd3da7e2-r0.1 - task-fso-compliance - 1.0-r1.1 - r...@om-gta02:~# uname -a Linux om-gta02 2.6.24 #1 PREEMPT Tue Nov 18 18:04:32 CET 2008 armv4tl unknown And - I am not using debian. My OS is FSO milestone 4.1 aka 'more homework'. Another question: Has debian also the possibility to run Zhone ? Do you prefer debian before FSO ? Is debian as small to fit in internal flash (not on /media/card) ? This phone software is compact and therefore fast. Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I use debian with fso and when i install fso-gpsd no gpsd is installed as dependency because it would make no sense. Fso-gpsd IS the gpsd compatibility wrapper which does the same what gpsd does for the client applications. So be sure not to have fso-gpsd and gpsd installed. Both programs try to access the gps which doesn't work. My current version of fso-gpsd in debian is 0.8-2 and my fso-frameworkd is 0.8.4.3-20081215-1. Both are from the official debian repository. lollisoft wrote: I haven't success. My FSO is the 'more homework' version 4.1. Installing gpsd really installs fso-gpsd. Installing tangogps complains about having two versions matching gpsg, eg. the fso-gpsd and the compatibility (gpsd) wrapper that seems to be installed with fso-gpsd. What version do you use exactly (image locations) ? Tahnks Lothar lollisoft wrote: Thanks, I'll try that too. Also when the connections to the port are more than 0 it could be useful to disabling illume to lower the brightness and the like. Is this possible within a script ? Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: I did nothing special. I only deinstalled gpsd and installed fso-gpsd. Some time ago fso-gpsd wasn't working good at all. But a few weeks ago i tried again to replace gpsd with fso-gpsd and since than it works ok. Interesting is that with fso-gpsd the gps chip is activated as soon as a connection to the fso-gpsd port is opened. And it is deactivated when the last connection closes. This feature has pros and cons but at the moment i like it. :) Ciao, Rainer lollisoft wrote: Hi, what did you made to get GPS working in general ? See my post about GPS ... Thanks Lothar Fox Mulder wrote: Since a few weeks i'm using fso-gpsd without any big problems so far. The only problem is that the TTFF (time to first fix) is always 1 minute and sometimes it needs quite a lot of time. The only solution for me to be sure to get a fix within 30 sec is to use the agps tool which downloads the almanac and ephemeris from ublox for my region. The problem is, that the gps chip doesn't have any internal memory why it needs to download all relevant gps data every time it is powered up. So i thought if it is possible to save the relevant gps data before shutting down the gps which can be done by fso-gpsd or kernel automatically. Than after starting the gps fso-gpsd/kernel feeds back the data to speed up the TTFF. This would be the same way most gps receivers work. Maybe this is already implemented somewhere but i don't think so because the TTFF without agps is always quite slow. Ciao, Rainer ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--Speed-gps-time-to-firxt-fix-up--tp2105634p2108855.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Buying a FrogPad in the UK
Hi all, I'm interested in buying a FrogPad keyboard to use with my FreeRunner, but I can't find a UK distributor. According to www.frogpad.com, the UK distributor is Scan, but their website denies all knowledge of it. I also drew a blank with Amazon, Dabs and even eBay. Has anyone in the UK (or even in Europe) bought one recently? Thanks, Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
(OM2008.12) Blackness
Hi all, I know, I am going through distro's like crazy, but that's how I am. I flashed OM2008.12 but I can't keep it going. It boots, and after something like only 30 seconds it already blanks the screen and plays dead. Is there some setting I can adjust quickly to keep it working? Paul -- Better than a thousand days of diligent study is one day with a great teacher. -Japanese proverb http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Sargun Dhillon xbmodder+openm...@gmail.com wrote: B) Open Source Push Everybody has heard of Push, right. This whole Push E-mail, Push application notification. I was basically playing with the idea of writing a push framework for the Freerunner. People could write apps that would be triggered by emails, weather changes, etc. Have a look at Tinymail, seems like it already does that. http://www.tinymail.org/ -- Alexandre Franke ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buying a FrogPad in the UK
Try these people http://www.keyboardspecialist.co.uk/category/keyboard_type/frogpad/ Though they don't quote a price on the website. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (OM2008.12) Blackness
Paul p...@nlpagan.net wrote: I know, I am going through distro's like crazy, but that's how I am. I flashed OM2008.12 but I can't keep it going. It boots, and after something like only 30 seconds it already blanks the screen and plays dead. Is there some setting I can adjust quickly to keep it working? When you say it boots, do you mean it got all the way to an X desktop? It sounds like you might be experiencing a crash when suspending or resuming, and auto-suspend is switched on. You can disable this in Settings. I used to have problems like yours (almost every time I enabled automatic suspend, I would get resume problems), but now they seem to have settled down a bit. Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buying a FrogPad in the UK
2009/1/4 Thomas White ta...@cam.ac.uk: I'm interested in buying a FrogPad keyboard to use with my FreeRunner, Whoa, that's a nifty keyboard! I'm in Cambridge too, and would love to see your FrogPad in action if you can get hold of one. I'd be very grateful if you'd keep me posted (on or off list, as you prefer). Many thanks, Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (OM2008.12) Blackness
When you say it boots, do you mean it got all the way to an X desktop? Aye, it does get there. It sounds like you might be experiencing a crash when suspending or resuming, and auto-suspend is switched on. You can disable this in Settings. I used to have problems like yours (almost every time I enabled automatic suspend, I would get resume problems), but now they seem to have settled down a bit. That does describe it. I had that problem, indeed. Managed to get into the settings and disable suspend. It looks okay now, so far. Thanks!! Paul -- Better than a thousand days of diligent study is one day with a great teacher. -Japanese proverb http://www.nlpagan.net Running on Mandriva Linux 2009 and Ubuntu 8.10 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QtExtended] Proper way to invoke suspend?
Hello,
on a Linux system (with ACPI) it is possible to invoke a suspend through
echo -n mem /sys/power/state
(see http://ols.fedoraproject.org/OLS/Reprints-2008/brown-reprint.pdf (chapter
5, 6th page 42);
http://www.linux.com/articles/54610,
http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/sleep.html,
http://www.columbia.edu/~ariel/acpi/acpi_howto.txt (section 23.2),
http://www.linux-magazin.de/heft_abo/ausgaben/2004/02/einschlaf_hilfen/(offset)/2
(german),...)
Qt Extended on the Neo Freerunner
(http://moko.mwester.net/download/uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin +
http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-release-working-with-SystemRingTones.jffs2)
seems to be APM based
(/sys/power/state is also present and `echo mem /sys/power/state` works)
and `cat /proc/apm` shows some information.
Working on a console (if you have one, which is not default for QtExtended),
section 12.18.8.1.1
of
http://www.uibk.ac.at/linuxdoc/LDP/LDP/Mobile-Guide/html/mobile-guide-p2c1s8-apm.html
shows a nice way to keep an eye on the battery state through the command prompt:
export PS1=\$(cat /proc/apm | awk '{print \$7}') \h:\w\$
Invoking a suspend on a APM based systems can be done with
apm -s
I noticed /etc/apm/suspend.d/gsm_suspend, which executes
echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/flowcontrolled
Is this also needed for a proper suspend? (It seems to work without that.)
In contrast to the information about e.g. how to turn on/off LEDs
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner/Buttons_and_LEDs)
I didn't find this in the OpenMoko Wiki. Maybe because OpenMoko offers the
Ompower Power management daemon:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Ompower
This service seems not to be available for QtExtended:
r...@om-gta02:~# dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.openmoko.Power /
org.openmoko.Power.Core.ListResources
Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.openmoko.Power
was not provided by any .service files
which is not astonishing since
ompower is a suspend handling daemon talking dbus installed by default since
Om 2008.8
but apparently not by QtExtended (and /usr/share/dbus-1/services/ is empty).
QtExtended offers (formerly QCop and now Qtopia IPC based) services
(http://doc.trolltech.com/qtextended4.4/services.html),
which include a pre-defined suspend service
(http://doc.trolltech.com/qtextended4.4/suspendservice.html)
(also cmp. /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/services)
The qcop command-line tool
(http://doc.trolltech.com/qtextended4.4/qcop-tool.html) should also be capable
to do the job:
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/lib
export PATH=/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/bin:$PATH
qcop service send Suspend 'suspend()'
There might be more ways to do a suspend...
What is the proper way to suspend the Freerunner for QtExtended?
(Probably the last one. But is there more to be done?)
The next question will be how to configure the lock icon (padlock.png for finxi)
on the home screen (the rightmost icon on the bottom) to be connected with the
suspend command/service... (instead of Screen Lock)
Thanks,
Martin Bernreuther
--
Martin Bernreuther martinb...@web.de
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Re: Using mplayer with seme desktop symbols for streaming stations and wlan :-)
I've just found out that you can control mplayer via a fifo file. So to quit mplayer in a good way you could do the following: 1. Create a fifo somewhere: mkfifo mplayer_fifo 2. Start mplayer within your script like this: mplayer -quiet myradiostation -input file=mplayer_fifo 3. Write this into your stop script: echo quit mplayer_fifo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buying a FrogPad in the UK
I got mine through thinkgeek.com and I live in Spain. Regards, Pablo Asunto: Re: Buying a FrogPad in the UK De: Andy Selby andyfro...@googlemail.com Fecha: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 20:04:55 + Try these people http://www.keyboardspecialist.co.uk/category/keyboard_type/frogpad/ Though they don't quote a price on the website. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtExtended] Proper way to invoke suspend?
Martin Bernreuther wrote:
Hello,
on a Linux system (with ACPI) it is possible to invoke a suspend through
echo -n mem /sys/power/state
(see http://ols.fedoraproject.org/OLS/Reprints-2008/brown-reprint.pdf
(chapter 5, 6th page 42);
http://www.linux.com/articles/54610,
http://acpi.sourceforge.net/documentation/sleep.html,
http://www.columbia.edu/~ariel/acpi/acpi_howto.txt (section 23.2),
http://www.linux-magazin.de/heft_abo/ausgaben/2004/02/einschlaf_hilfen/(offset)/2
(german),...)
Qt Extended on the Neo Freerunner
(http://moko.mwester.net/download/uImage-gta02-g291a9d50_mwester-stable.bin +
http://other.lastnetwork.net/OpenMoko/qtextended-4.4.2-gta02-rootfs-release-working-with-SystemRingTones.jffs2)
seems to be APM based
(/sys/power/state is also present and `echo mem /sys/power/state` works)
and `cat /proc/apm` shows some information.
Working on a console (if you have one, which is not default for QtExtended),
section 12.18.8.1.1
of
http://www.uibk.ac.at/linuxdoc/LDP/LDP/Mobile-Guide/html/mobile-guide-p2c1s8-apm.html
shows a nice way to keep an eye on the battery state through the command
prompt:
export PS1=\$(cat /proc/apm | awk '{print \$7}') \h:\w\$
Invoking a suspend on a APM based systems can be done with
apm -s
I noticed /etc/apm/suspend.d/gsm_suspend, which executes
echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-gsm.0/flowcontrolled
Is this also needed for a proper suspend? (It seems to work without that.)
In contrast to the information about e.g. how to turn on/off LEDs
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/FreeRunner/Buttons_and_LEDs)
I didn't find this in the OpenMoko Wiki. Maybe because OpenMoko offers the
Ompower Power management daemon:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Ompower
This service seems not to be available for QtExtended:
r...@om-gta02:~# dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.openmoko.Power /
org.openmoko.Power.Core.ListResources
Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.openmoko.Power
was not provided by any .service files
which is not astonishing since
ompower is a suspend handling daemon talking dbus installed by default since
Om 2008.8
but apparently not by QtExtended (and /usr/share/dbus-1/services/ is empty).
QtExtended offers (formerly QCop and now Qtopia IPC based) services
(http://doc.trolltech.com/qtextended4.4/services.html),
which include a pre-defined suspend service
(http://doc.trolltech.com/qtextended4.4/suspendservice.html)
(also cmp. /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/services)
The qcop command-line tool
(http://doc.trolltech.com/qtextended4.4/qcop-tool.html) should also be
capable to do the job:
export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/lib
export PATH=/opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/bin:$PATH
qcop service send Suspend 'suspend()'
There might be more ways to do a suspend...
What is the proper way to suspend the Freerunner for QtExtended?
(Probably the last one. But is there more to be done?)
Proper way is to just let it suspend on it's own.
The next question will be how to configure the lock icon (padlock.png for
finxi)
on the home screen (the rightmost icon on the bottom) to be connected with the
suspend command/service... (instead of Screen Lock)
You would have to edit the code and recompile, as this is not how the screen
lock currently works.
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Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd
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Re2: [QtExtended] Proper way to invoke suspend?
Hello Lorn, thank you for the fast answer. Am Sonntag, 4. Januar 2009 22:58 schrieb Lorn Potter: What is the proper way to suspend the Freerunner for QtExtended? (Probably the last one. But is there more to be done?) Proper way is to just let it suspend on it's own. My problem is, that sometimes it won't... (see http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-December/038807.html) Let's assume the On Battery Power Management settings for Dim light, Display off and Suspend are 10s, 30s and 1min and after using the phone, I'll put it in a pocket. The touch screen will be touched all the time... and Suspend (or even Display off etc) might never be reached! And that's very bad for the operating time! The next question will be how to configure the lock icon (padlock.png for finxi) on the home screen (the rightmost icon on the bottom) to be connected with the suspend command/service... (instead of Screen Lock) You would have to edit the code and recompile, as this is not how the screen lock currently works. Screen lock currently will only lock the screen, but won't assure the Suspend (or Display off, if Suspend is disabled etc) to happen. (If nothing will touch the screen, I don't need a screen lock.) Why is the Screen lock not setting the display to Display off or even invoke a suspend (if this is enabled) after a couple of seconds. That's better for the battery, or not? Therefore the idea to manually suspend the FR... and to have an icon for that, which is easy to reach and not needed any more, since the screen of a suspended FR needs not to be locked. Regards, Martin Bernreuther -- Martin Bernreuther martinb...@web.de ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Mediaplayer
Great !!! It works! Unfortunately, if I plug the earphones, I can still listen to the sound from the loud speakers. Do you know how to solve this problem? On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 4:27 AM, Glen Ogilvie n...@linuxsolutions.co.nzwrote: On Sun, 28 Dec 2008 21:17:50 +0100, Giovanni pino.o...@gmail.com wrote: I installed both the media players (Om and Qtopia). I'm not able to use any of them. I managed to get pythm working on om2008.12 by doing the following. Download from Angstrom Repository http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libmad0_0.15.1b-r4.1_armv4t.ipk http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libmp3lame0_3.96.1-r4.1_armv4t.ipk http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libsdl-1.2-0_1.2.11-r7.1_armv4t.ipk http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/libxv1_1.0.4-r1.1_armv4t.ipk http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/mplayer-common_0.0.1-r0.1_armv4t.ipk http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv4t/base/mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2-r12.1_armv4t.ipk Download http://downloads.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/openmoko/python-mokoui2_0.1.0+svnr4342_armv4t.ipk http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/471/pythm_0.5.1_armv4t.ipk Install using following commands. opkg install libmad0_0.15.1b-r4.1_armv4t.ipk opkg install libmp3lame0_3.96.1-r4.1_armv4t.ipk opkg install libsdl-1.2-0_1.2.11-r7.1_armv4t.ipk opkg install libxv1_1.0.4-r1.1_armv4t.ipk opkg install mplayer-common_0.0.1-r0.1_armv4t.ipk opkg install -nodeps mplayer_0.0+1.0rc2-r12.1_armv4t.ipk opkg install python-mokoui2_0.1.0+svnr4342_armv4t.ipk opkg install pythm_0.5.1_armv4t.ipk # Change the priority for mplayer cat /etc/pythm.conf | sed -e s/^renice.*/renice=-19/ pythm.conf cp pythm.conf /etc/ Note, do not add the Angstrom repository as a feed to opkg, because it will upgrade libpng. After doing this, enlightenment won't start, so your phone will not be very useful until you revert libpng or reinstall. I did this the first time and had to start again. This will play both ogg and mp3 files. Regards Glen Ogilvie ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (OM2008.12) Blackness
Go into settings and turn suspend off. When suspended, you should just have to push the power button briefly and it will come out of suspend - however it rarely did for me, and even if it did it was broken requiring a reboot anyway. Install the illume theme (see wiki) and use the wrench illume settings app to set blanking and suspend up properly. Forget the standard asu theme ... Most of the distros are close to useless unless you spend time tuning and fixing things - swapping distros like you mention wont tell much :) BillK On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 14:40 +0100, Paul wrote: Hi all, I know, I am going through distro's like crazy, but that's how I am. I flashed OM2008.12 but I can't keep it going. It boots, and after something like only 30 seconds it already blanks the screen and plays dead. Is there some setting I can adjust quickly to keep it working? Paul -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debug Board in Vancouver, BC
Hello All, Since both my previous posts haven't helped me to fix my phone looks like I need to devirginate it. Unfortunately I do not have the debug board, and paying $100 + shipping is a bit steep for just one thing to do. Is there anyone in Vancouver, BC that has one and willing to help me to get my Moko working - please respond. Thanks, Vasili. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Mediaplayer
Giovanni wrote: Great !!! It works! Unfortunately, if I plug the earphones, I can still listen to the sound from the loud speakers. Do you know how to solve this problem? Not persoanlly but there are daemons/scripts that do this properly... search headphone script openmoko 2008 or something...? I know FDOM testing includes the script to do this. Tim -- www.tdobson.net If each of us have one object, and we exchange them, then each of us still has one object. If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now has two ideas. - George Bernard Shaw ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Best media player?
I ultimately settled on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Mokoko. NeoQPlayer seems like a good bet as well... On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 4:58 PM, rakshat hooja raks...@gmail.com wrote: i have 2008.12 working great on my FR as a phone. But the image did not come with a preinstalled media player. SO I was wondering what would be the best media (just music) player option that can be installed on om 2008.12. I was quite happy with the QT Extended media played so can that be installed on OM 2008.12? Rakshat -- -- Please use Firefox as your web browser. Its protects you from spyware and is also a very feature rich browser. www.firefox.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Car Charger?
Another question: Does someone have seen a docking station like item to place the phone when driving I've used a very simple solution for a docking station. I just stuck a piece of velcro on my dashboard and I strap my FR onto it through the hole in the casing near the mic. I have to flip the display (xrandr -o 2) but its been working great for me. So does a standard USB car charger from ebay. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [FSO] Speed gps time to firxt fix up?
I was claiming FSO is meaning the image and not the framework. Meaning 'More Homework' as a more symbolic name than milestone 4.1. What exactly was 'mounted' better into my /dev/brain :-) But that misunderstanding was cleaned out in this thread. I have used the following image: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone4.1/openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20081120-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 So I think the subject saying [FSO] is also a little bit too less, because it will be used in two different contexts eg. the framework versus a complete distribution FSO. The documentation itself lists FSO beside SHR and others. See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Distributions Stating 'This next release can be previewed by installing milestones of the FSO - Free Smartphone.Org project.' This is just my mind about the name FSO. But what I mean with 'more homework' is as of the readme file from here: http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-stable/milestone4.1/README.html Maybe posting a link to the image directly is more precise, but I have always searched for the images link. I have remembered 'more homework' and thus used it in thought others remember too :-) I think I also should use 'FSO-image' instead of FSO when meaning the image. Now, what am I doing: Testing images and try to get the most hardware components running for my private usage. The answer from Fox was to reinstall gpsd and not fso-gpsd and later he went back. So I tried this and struggled. Fox was also not on the FSO image, but on the Debian with FSO framework. Maybe he could do that but I am not (FSO image). I think bebause of Zhune. Beside all that: The newer testing image from here http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso-testing/images/om-gta02/openmoko-fso-image-glibc-ipk--20090104-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 at least has a partly functioning GPS. It behaves more unstable thus earlier loss of a fix (in car / behind a window). The Om2008/9 image as from http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.9/ has worked much better inside a room. This may also be a difference between my microSD cards (factory delivered Transent SD card / Sandisk SDHC 16GB as reported here 'Booting from large microSD (SDHC) [success]'). I will test that next time. Also I should test Om2008/9 with my new microSD card to figure out what it is exactly. I hope to be more precise soon :-) Lothar -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-FSO--Speed-gps-time-to-firxt-fix-up--tp2105634p2111003.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [2008.12] Mediaplayer
Giovanni wrote: Great !!! It works! Unfortunately, if I plug the earphones, I can still listen to the sound from the loud speakers. Do you know how to solve this problem? Simply use alsactl -f restore to load the headset.state scenario file... -- Treviño's World - Life and Linux http://www.3v1n0.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:58 AM, Alexandre Franke alexandre.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Sargun Dhillon xbmodder+openm...@gmail.com wrote: B) Open Source Push Everybody has heard of Push, right. This whole Push E-mail, Push application notification. I was basically playing with the idea of writing a push framework for the Freerunner. People could write apps that would be triggered by emails, weather changes, etc. Have a look at Tinymail, seems like it already does that. http://www.tinymail.org/ -- Alexandre Franke ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Tiny mail is query based, or pull. That means it eats up more batteries than a push based system, also it is not a general purpose push framework... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:11 AM, Jos vd Snepscheut j...@snepscheut.nl wrote: Hello Sargun. Yes I have a few programs I would like to pay for a little (as I did for windows) 1) a keyboard, yes yet an otherone, like Touchpal. See http://www.CooTek.com. TouchPal is an innovative soft keyboard on Windows Mobile platform, powered by T+ input technology. Why TouchPal? It's Cool! Flow your keyboard by sweeping with your finger! Switch between three layouts: T+, Full-Qwerty, 9-key PhonePad. Resize your keyboard anytime! It's Easy! Big buttons. Finger friendly. Up to 300 chars/min, faster than your hard keyboard! Input puntuations, numbers and uppercase letters without view switching It's Smart! Powerful mistyping correction Clever prediction based on context Predict next word It's Innovative! T+ technology. Predictive + Precise. Word association Super big dictionaries (40,000 English words, 140,000 French words...) It's Customizable! My Sentences with parameters (e.g., See you in X mins) Customizable emotion symbols (e.g. :-o, ^_^) You can develop your own layout or language pack with SDK tool. 2) My agenda on my Desktop just like alarmToday see http://www.pocketmax.net starting apps and turning on/off wifi bluethooth is already don by Openmokopanel 3) Make Openmokopanel better, less cpu and mem, possibility to make it lager (my eyes are getting less) This are my 2 cents (willing to pay a little bit more =^D, see price's an the website's above. payment by paypall??) hope this is wat you want, Greetings, Jos. Sargun Dhillon wrote: So, I want to start my Freerunner development back up. I was thinking of a few different Apps to write, please give your comments (Tell me what you want): A) Assassin game A game where you can 'kill' other Openmokos, it would like Via Bluetooth/Wifi. This would mostly be a gimmick based off of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin_%28game%29 B) Open Source Push Everybody has heard of Push, right. This whole Push E-mail, Push application notification. I was basically playing with the idea of writing a push framework for the Freerunner. People could write apps that would be triggered by emails, weather changes, etc. C) Traffic monitoring, and call management This idea entails that when you are driving at high speeds on the roads, it'll put your phone into a silent profile mode. It could also setup call forwarding/allow an SMS to come in that would unlock the freerunner's mode, in case of emergency call. Now one thing, I'm planning on charging for these apps. A tiny bit, but still a bit. I need the cash. So, tell me what do you guys want to buy first? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Offer-to-write-some-neat-programs-for-the-Freerunner-tp2108659p2108818.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Sorry, I'm not a desktop developer. I stay far away from complicated GUIs, otherwise I might end up with something like this: http://www.jensroesner.de/wgetgui/#screen. ;-). Maybe someone else can pickup your idea, and fly with it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner
Tiny mail is query based, or pull. That means it eats up more batteries than a push based system, also it is not a general purpose push framework... Not so true, tinymail will use IMAP IDLE if available and that is a push mechanism. Graeme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Offer to write some neat programs for the Freerunner
IMAP IDLE is not a push mechanism... SMS is a push mechanism. Something that doesn't require the FR to be out of suspend mode before a push... Also, tinymail is designed around e-mail messages, and isn't designed as a general purpose push mechanism. On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Graeme Gregory gra...@openmoko.org wrote: Tiny mail is query based, or pull. That means it eats up more batteries than a push based system, also it is not a general purpose push framework... Not so true, tinymail will use IMAP IDLE if available and that is a push mechanism. Graeme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC
Vasili Sviridov wrote: Hello All, Since both my previous posts haven't helped me to fix my phone looks like I need to devirginate it. Unfortunately I do not have the debug board, and paying $100 + shipping is a bit steep for just one thing to do. Is there anyone in Vancouver, BC that has one and willing to help me to get my Moko working - please respond. I have a v2 (Neo1973) debug board in Vancouver, but you shouldn't need it if you have a Freerunner with a working NOR u-boot. I haven't read all of the previous messages in this thread so someone else might have already said this, but I would: - Boot into NOR u-boot - Erase the NAND (nand erase or nand createbbt) - Exit from the u-boot console - Flash a new u-boot (dfu-util -R -a u-boot -D /path/to/u-boot.bin) - Reboot into NAND u-boot, then enter the u-boot console - Execute dynpart, dynenv set u-boot_env, saveenv to set up the default environment variables - Reboot into NAND u-boot again - Download a new kernel + rootfs with dfu-util - Fix up the rest of your environment variables through the u-boot console. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC
Wow, that's detailed :D Thanks, I will try this right away... V. Mike Montour wrote: Vasili Sviridov wrote: Hello All, Since both my previous posts haven't helped me to fix my phone looks like I need to devirginate it. Unfortunately I do not have the debug board, and paying $100 + shipping is a bit steep for just one thing to do. Is there anyone in Vancouver, BC that has one and willing to help me to get my Moko working - please respond. I have a v2 (Neo1973) debug board in Vancouver, but you shouldn't need it if you have a Freerunner with a working NOR u-boot. I haven't read all of the previous messages in this thread so someone else might have already said this, but I would: - Boot into NOR u-boot - Erase the NAND (nand erase or nand createbbt) - Exit from the u-boot console - Flash a new u-boot (dfu-util -R -a u-boot -D /path/to/u-boot.bin) - Reboot into NAND u-boot, then enter the u-boot console - Execute dynpart, dynenv set u-boot_env, saveenv to set up the default environment variables - Reboot into NAND u-boot again - Download a new kernel + rootfs with dfu-util - Fix up the rest of your environment variables through the u-boot console. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buying a FrogPad in the UK
Sam Kuper sam.ku...@uclmail.net wrote: Whoa, that's a nifty keyboard! I'm in Cambridge too, and would love to see your FrogPad in action if you can get hold of one. I'd be very grateful if you'd keep me posted (on or off list, as you prefer). Will do. Watch out for the next Cambridge OM pubmeet as well. There's five or six of us in Cambridge, and the last meetup was in a quality establishment in the Beer Quarter back in October. Tom ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC
Ok, that made it even worse :( Now I only have NOR uBoot and dfu-util still gives me only 1 alternate there which is USB Device Firmware Upgrade. Cannot flash the NAND uBoot, since dfu-util does not see the required partition... Vasili Mike Montour wrote: Vasili Sviridov wrote: Hello All, Since both my previous posts haven't helped me to fix my phone looks like I need to devirginate it. Unfortunately I do not have the debug board, and paying $100 + shipping is a bit steep for just one thing to do. Is there anyone in Vancouver, BC that has one and willing to help me to get my Moko working - please respond. I have a v2 (Neo1973) debug board in Vancouver, but you shouldn't need it if you have a Freerunner with a working NOR u-boot. I haven't read all of the previous messages in this thread so someone else might have already said this, but I would: - Boot into NOR u-boot - Erase the NAND (nand erase or nand createbbt) - Exit from the u-boot console - Flash a new u-boot (dfu-util -R -a u-boot -D /path/to/u-boot.bin) - Reboot into NAND u-boot, then enter the u-boot console - Execute dynpart, dynenv set u-boot_env, saveenv to set up the default environment variables - Reboot into NAND u-boot again - Download a new kernel + rootfs with dfu-util - Fix up the rest of your environment variables through the u-boot console. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buying a FrogPad in the UK
2009/1/5 Thomas White ta...@cam.ac.uk Will do. Watch out for the next Cambridge OM pubmeet as well. Thanks. Is there a separate mailing list/etc over which the pubmeet will be arranged? Cheers, Sam ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC
Vasili Sviridov wrote: Ok, that made it even worse :( Now I only have NOR uBoot and dfu-util still gives me only 1 alternate there which is USB Device Firmware Upgrade. Cannot flash the NAND uBoot, since dfu-util does not see the required partition... Don't pay too much attention to the dfu-util -l output - there are two different modes the device can be in, and in the default one you don't see the other alternate settings listed. When you run the dfu-util Download command it should automatically set the device into the required mode. If it fails then try running the exact same command a second time - sometimes it fails on the first try. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC
Mike Montour wrote: Vasili Sviridov wrote: Ok, that made it even worse :( Now I only have NOR uBoot and dfu-util still gives me only 1 alternate there which is USB Device Firmware Upgrade. Cannot flash the NAND uBoot, since dfu-util does not see the required partition... Don't pay too much attention to the dfu-util -l output - there are two different modes the device can be in, and in the default one you don't see the other alternate settings listed. When you run the dfu-util Download command it should automatically set the device into the required mode. If it fails then try running the exact same command a second time - sometimes it fails on the first try. Thanks, what's the good version of NAND uBoot to flash? V. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC
Vasili Sviridov wrote: Thanks, what's the good version of NAND uBoot to flash? I don't know - I haven't been keeping up-to-date with Openmoko development for several months. I'd try http://downloads.openmoko.org/daily/testing/gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin first. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debug Board in Vancouver, BC
Yay, that worked. Thanks a lot, now i should be able to play around with the new distro. Vasili. Don't pay too much attention to the dfu-util -l output - there are two different modes the device can be in, and in the default one you don't see the other alternate settings listed. When you run the dfu-util Download command it should automatically set the device into the required mode. If it fails then try running the exact same command a second time - sometimes it fails on the first try. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Is it possible to keep ASU Enlightenment profile...
... but use Illume's keyboard? Default one in 2008.12 sucks so bad... :( I want to keep ASU profile because if i switch to illume it keeps segfaulting at random actions and intervals... Vasili. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
December Google analytic report of Wiki
Dear Documentation team and Community : I updated the December 2008 google analytic report of of wiki. You can check it on follow link : http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wiki_statistic_numbers#December.2C_2008 Here is the summaries : 1. Compared to November , December's visits and pageviews was lower. Probably caused by Christmas holidays. 2. Application page's rank was higher than last month. 3. There was many people use zagg discount code as the keyword to search for Zagg Protection Discount Number. That's pretty cool. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Zagg_Protection_Discount_Number Brenda ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
