Re: Freerunner GPIO locations
On 18 February 2014 15:22, Paul Wise pa...@bonedaddy.net wrote: any schematics out there with their location? ideally something which relates them to the nodes in /sys/class/gpio/ These are the schematics I can find related to this: http://downloads.openmoko.org/developer/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner-GTA02_A5-A7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf http://svn.openmoko.org/trunk/doc/hardware/GTA02v4/gpio.txt hi, yes, thanks for those, i have seen them already. they help, but don't enable me to relate the nodes in /sys/class/gpio/ to anything on the board. the specific files in that directory are: gpiochip0 gpiochip160 gpiochip224 gpiochip416 gpiochip480 gpiochip96 gpio164 gpiochip128 gpiochip192 gpiochip32 gpiochip448 gpiochip64 how do those files relate/connect to the components and solder pads listed on the schematics? which point on the board would i solder to if i wanted to control, say, the gpio named gpio164, or gpiochip0? cheers, -- robin What the world needs now is love sweet love ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Freerunner GPIO locations
hi all, apologies if this question is answered elsewhere, i've done lots of searching of the openmoko wiki and the web, and can't find an answer i'd like to interface my freerunner with hardware switches to control some software. i believe gpio is the best way to do this, and have help from various bodies at my local maker space to do so. problem is, i can't locate the gpio pins on the motherboard. are there any schematics out there with their location? ideally something which relates them to the nodes in /sys/class/gpio/ cheers, -- robin What the world needs now is love sweet love ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Gta04-owner] QtMoko v45
On 2 July 2012 19:59, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Monday, July 02, 2012 08:01:55 AM Robin Paulson wrote: great to see qtmoko progressing more, v45-1 installing now. i see that GTA02 only gets kernel 2.6.34, is there any reason why not a more recent kernel, like GTA04 has? is there something missing upstream, radek? I think 2.6.34 is last kernel for Freerunner which works reasonably for daily usage. But since my daily phone is GTA04 i have stopped watching GTA02 kernel. If someone provides good newer kernel i can integrate it in QtMoko. oh, are there some downstream changes that have not been merged back into the kernel? or some other reason why 3.x is not suitable? is it not a case of compiling and creating a .deb package? -- robin http://fu.ac.nz - Auckland's Free University ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v45
On 13 June 2012 10:40, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, QtMoko v45 is out now. You can get images for GTA02 (Freerunner) here[1] and GTA04 (Phoenux) here[2]. For more info about QtMoko please visit our homepage [3]. This is list of changes since previous v44 version: * fixed wifi password not saving problem * new big transparent keyboard * GTA04 has new 3.4 kernel thanks to Neil Brown great to see qtmoko progressing more, v45-1 installing now. i see that GTA02 only gets kernel 2.6.34, is there any reason why not a more recent kernel, like GTA04 has? is there something missing upstream, radek? -- robin http://fu.ac.nz - Auckland's Free University ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problems with qtmoko continuously re-starting
On 17 May 2012 18:35, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: It looks like bluetooth adapter and bluez are not working. You can try: /etc/init.d/bluetooth stop or update-rc.d -f bluetooth remove First commands stops bluetooth and after that qtmoko will start ok. Second one disable bluetooth during init, so you will have qtmoko working also after restart (but without bluetooth). success! it is working now If you need bluetooth we have to figure out what is wrong with it. You can i think i physically fubar'd the bluetooth board when i replaced the screen. i remember thinking i had pressed too hard and wondered which part of the phone it was. fortunately i've never used bluetooth and don't intent to, so no problems. thanks for the help -- robin http://fu.ac.nz - Auckland's Free University ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problems with qtmoko continuously re-starting
On 16 May 2012 22:28, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: You can try to start qtmoko from ssh: ssh root@192.168.0.202 /etc/init.d/qtmoko-neo stop . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env qpe It should print something useful. it printed this, i'm not sure what it means: QDBusObjectPath: invalid path Method call /-DefaultAdapter() failed: QDBusError(org.bluez.Error.NoSuchAdapter, No such adapter) -- robin http://fu.ac.nz - Auckland's Free University ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
problems with qtmoko continuously re-starting
hi all, i broke the screen on my freerunner a while back (although it still displayed, and the touch part sort of worked), and put a new one in last week, bought from a seller on ebay. i booted the freerunner up, and the screen appeared to work fine, boot text was moving across the screen. however, when qtmoko started, the timer thing in the centre of the screen stayed on, and then qtmoko restarted. then it restarted again, and again, and again. i ran top via ssh from my laptop, and cpu for qpe is very high all the time. so, i uninstalled and purged qtmoko, then reinstalled (v.44-1). same thing again. any suggestions what to do? i've checked the connections on the screen and they are fine. i wonder if it's anything to do with the calibration of the touchpad? is there anyway to manually edit it, i.e. a .conf file somewhere? cheers, -- robin http://fu.ac.nz - Auckland's Free University ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko - qgcide and dictionary location
hi, i recently installed the qgcide application and on first run it asked to download the data files. but it tries to download them to /media/card/, which is only 7.5mb (it has the kernel on it) my questions are: 1. why is it downloaded to this location, not /usr/share/ or /var/ or even /home/? 2. is there any way to change the location it downloads to, without recompiling? -- robin http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/?p=237 - government bill to remove basic human rights in NZ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko - media player errors
hi, i installed the codecs application this week, to allow my phone to play back mp3 files. i have copied some of my music to the phone and attempted to play it. around 5% of the tracks will play, the rest will not - i've tested probably 80. the track is ether skipped entirely or a message pops up 'the connection was broken' any ideas what is happening? i'm using the default qtmoko media player, and mp3s mostly encoded with LAME (not that this should matter, should it?). -- robin http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/?p=237 - government bill to remove basic human rights in NZ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps and qtmoko
On 12 May 2011 17:28, Gianluigi pulc...@fastwebnet.it wrote: this is my /etc/default/gpsd content: # Default settings for gpsd. # Please do not edit this file directly - use `dpkg-reconfigure gpsd' to # change the options. START_DAEMON=true GPSD_OPTIONS= DEVICES=/dev/ttySAC1 USBAUTO=false GPSD_SOCKET=/var/run/gpsd.sock excellent, that did it. cheers what does USBAUTO=false do by the way? -- robin http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/?p=237 - government bill to remove basic human rights in NZ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps and qtmoko
On 12 May 2011 09:12, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz ti...@debian.org wrote: Try to use window manager in setup. I've added Matchbox also; you'll have the X top-right corner to close application. I've done the same to fix it in my device. It works well. Use fullscreen option in tango/foxtrot then you save the X space. thanks for the suggestions guys, that worked great. i've got a further problem now though: i can't get a gps fix. i've installed gpsd, and the port it pushes its data to is the same as the port tangogps looks on, but no go. i've left it outside in areas where i've previously got a good signal (with shr and other distros), so i'm sure it's the software. is there another component in the gps stack i need - there's nothing on the qtmoko or openmoko wiki about it -- robin http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/?p=237 - government bill to remove basic human rights in NZ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
tangogps and qtmoko
hi, i have the latest qtmoko (35) installed on my freerunner. i also have tanggogps installed, used via QX. the problem is, when i run tango, it only uses 3/4 of the screen then, if i hit 'info' to show the config, etc., that takes up around a 1/3 of the screen, and can't be closed, plus i can't read all the info on the different tabs. i've tried 'rotate screen' in the qx setup for tango, but it doesn't rotate or make any difference at all. any suggestions? cheers -- robin http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/?p=237 - government bill to remove basic human rights in NZ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko and ubifs
On 17 January 2011 20:00, Gennady Kupava g...@bsdmn.com wrote: В Пнд, 17/01/2011 в 13:21 +1300, Robin Paulson пишет: hi, i tried flashing the latest qtmoko last night - it flashed with no errors, but then wouldn't boot. lots of errors such as: INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294910048/2000 jiffies) INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294916048/2000 jiffies) INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294922048/14000 jiffies) i used a very recent version of neotool (from last week i think), and the version of dfu in ubuntu 10.10 http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Installation#Method_1:_Installing_on_NAND and according to this, that should work or have i missed something? Hi, INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294910048/2000 jiffies) means that debugging is on. Look like you installed old distro. Current stable qtmoko is v31. this was version 31. is there anything different between the setup of ubifs version and jffs2 version? -- robin http://tangleball.org.nz/ - Auckland's Creative Space http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] won't boot
On 17 January 2011 21:21, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: so, i put some symlinks in /boot (in the 2nd partition on the sd), pointing to uImage, config and sysmap (in the first partition on the sd). it still won't boot, and i'm a bit lost now. You can try hold POWER buttton when you are booting, qi will make kernel more verbose so you can see the actual error. very verbose. but i don't know what i'm looking for, so kind of stuck any suggestions? anything i can look for in a log (it's also moving kind of fast)? Also please make sure you have append-GTA02 whith rootwait parameter on your SD card: cd /boot echo console=tty0 loglevel=3 rootwait append-GTA02 you can also try e.g. rootdelay=10 instead of rootwait. i tried that, and still not getting anything. also, doesn't the debian install script handle all that? i recall trying this over a year ago and it worked flawlessly -- robin http://tangleball.org.nz/ - Auckland's Creative Space http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko and ubifs
hi, i tried flashing the latest qtmoko last night - it flashed with no errors, but then wouldn't boot. lots of errors such as: INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294910048/2000 jiffies) INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294916048/2000 jiffies) INFO: RCU detected CPU 0 stall (t=4294922048/14000 jiffies) i used a very recent version of neotool (from last week i think), and the version of dfu in ubuntu 10.10 http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Installation#Method_1:_Installing_on_NAND and according to this, that should work or have i missed something? cheers -- robin http://tangleball.org.nz/ - Auckland's Creative Space http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] won't boot
hi, i recently installed qtmoko v26 on internal flash, and from there used the wiki instructions to install debian on sd. the install ran all the way through, and gave a me a message that all was well. except, it won't boot. i have qi installed, and if i read the wiki correctly, it will auto boot the first os on the sd card, so long as the kernel is in the correct position. so, i put some symlinks in /boot (in the 2nd partition on the sd), pointing to uImage, config and sysmap (in the first partition on the sd). it still won't boot, and i'm a bit lost now. -- robin http://tangleball.org.nz/ - Auckland's Creative Space http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko - Please Wait...
On 12 July 2010 19:07, Fernando Martins ferna...@cmartins.nl wrote: After boot, I don't get the request for the pin code. The screen displays a No network message and no response to screen touches. I press the power button to get the shutdown menu. I cancel it and then the pin code request screen appears. However, I am not able to type anything and all I see is a Please Wait... message. If I boot the FR with usb cable connected, I get the chance to enter the pin code. Can I do something to fix this issue? i find turning off, taking out the sim and battery for 20 minutes or so fixes it ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
gsm mesh network without cell towers or telcos
i heard about this on radio nz national yesterday: a uni researcher in australia has designed and implemented a system for building distributed, de-centralised mesh networks out of (so i understand it) gsm phones yes, no cell towers needed no telcos needed i can't find much on him, beyond his web page at the university: http://www.flinders.edu.au/people/paul.gardner-stephen which has these snippets: # Implementing the Mesh Potato feature-set on Android based smart phones to enable the creation of mixed mobile and land-line self-meshing ad-hoc telephone networks # Creating distributed infrastructure-free protocols that allow people to use their existing telephone numbers on ad-hoc telephone networks, both for temporary disaster-relief telephony and ad-hoc telephony for remote and emerging regions. he talks about using it for disaster relief, but i think that's a trivial use: breaking the stranglehold of mobile telcos over us is far more venerable has anyone else heard of this? does anyone else have better google skills and can find more? i'd love to see this or an equivalent on the openmoko. now *that* would 'free my phone' ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Freerunner Firewall
On 18 June 2010 07:05, Shosholoza caval...@tin.it wrote: Your firewall it would be good for me. How can I load the right module? I think it is necessary module ipt_state. this might help. http://edoceo.com/liber/linux-kernel-modules ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using multiple window systems - selecting at boot
On 15 May 2010 21:37, Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk wrote: You could use a different init level for each, say 3 for Qt and 5 for X, then use telinit or similar to switch between them. ok, that sounds interesting. could you point me at some resources on how to use init levels and telinit? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtmoko] phone auto-turns on at 12 midday
well, the subject line pretty much sums it up i was sat at my desk a few moments ago, when my phone turned itself on. it's running version 22 of qtmoko. i'd noticed a couple of days previously that it had been on some afternoons, when i was sure i'd turned it off earlier in the day. there is a recurring alarm set, but it's for 7am has anyone else seen this? any idea what might be causing it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: using multiple window systems - selecting at boot
On 16 May 2010 00:38, Alex Samorukov m...@os2.kiev.ua wrote: With Qi its possible to put different systems on different partitions on the SD drive. Also it supports control files to skip partition on boot. Only way to change bootable partition on a boot time with Qi is to keep AUX button after power on - it will boot from internal flash then. Otherwise you may use control files on different partition to choose which OS to boot. See Qi wiki for more details. no, i don't want two different OSs. i want one OS (debian), and at boot/logon/whatever, a choice of whether debian uses X or Qt ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
using multiple window systems - selecting at boot
i'm investigating changing to debian as the os for my fr. it appears i can use either qtmoko, or the shr suite of apps on top of this. if i install both, how would i go about choosing which environment (Qt/X) boots at startup? on my desktop i'd probably see if grub could do it, but as there is no grub i'm a bit stuck here. any suggestions? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR phoneui-contacts buddy icons
On 5 May 2010 00:30, Bernd Prünster bernd.pruens...@gmail.com wrote: I was wondering what are the green one eyed alien that appear next to the contact name in Contacts list. I thought that it was an icon to replace with your friends photos, but I don't find where to change it. Sorry again for the silly question. Add a Photo field in the contact view. upon editing that field a file browser will appear to choose the picture the following would be potentially useful: add a user to contacts, let's call him 'John Smith' take a photo of John place the photo in /home/$user/.contact_photos/John Smith.jpg then, on using contacts/dialler/messages/etc., john's photo automatically appears ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: has anyone tried this usb hub with their freerunner?
On 15 March 2010 05:13, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote: Not this type, but I bought the cheapest one I have found and it works well. See http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=10 as an update, i realised after reading the *whole* page on usb cables, that i could use a Y-cable + some bash scripting, instead of buying a hub. far cheaper, and i don't have to wait for postage from hk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: has anyone tried this usb hub with their freerunner?
On 15 March 2010 21:32, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: as an update, i realised after reading the *whole* page on usb cables, that i could use a Y-cable + some bash scripting, instead of buying a hmm, apparently bash scripting is a clumsy way to do this. is there a decent, maintained app for shr which will allow me to set the charge status? is this a planned feature for shr-settings? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: pisi cannot fetch contacts from sim in shr. please help
On 13 March 2010 18:24, Chuck Norris norris.ch...@mail.ru wrote:
ok. that does the trick. Now pisi have another problem:
snip
raise UnknownMethodException('%s is not a valid method of interface
%s' % (method_name, dbus_interface))
UnknownMethodException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod:
Unknown method: GetUsedBackends is not a valid method of interface
org.freesmartphone.PIM.Contact
this problem with opimd I suppose. It converts contacts from sim to
local vcf succesfully.
So is it possible to tell opimd use vcf?
i got this error, and mistakenly hit yes when it asked to continue
processing. my contacts are all visible now, so i guess it worked
ok.at your risk, though
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has anyone tried this usb hub with their freerunner?
or anything similar? http://cgi.ebay.com/High-Speed-Smart-3-Ports-USB-Hub-5-Pin-Cable-for-PC_W0QQitemZ260567368077QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3cab06818d i'd like to power the phone, while i have a flash drive and another usb device plugged into it cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps 0.99.1
2010/1/11 GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org: I'll make that configurable in one of the next versions of tangoGPS. hi,Thanks for making tangogps, I've also a suggestion, I'd like to be able to configure the speed limit(so when the speed goes red), because last time I used tangogps(during the last summer hollidays) When I was in a car the speed limit was about 50Km/h.That's fine in a city but not on a highway(about 130 Km/h in France) perhaps multi-coloured would be useful? green or black of it's under the urban limit (configurable), orange if it's over the urban limit but under the motorway limit (also configurable), and red if it's over the motorway limit ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
openmoko to computer calls
i've previously been using skype on my desktop to call other people via their computers. i'd like to investigate other options for calling - asking the other user to install different software is not necessarily a problem i'm not sure where to start; what software is available (i'm using shr-u) to do this? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: sd card
2009/12/28 blackfalc...@sapo.pt: im using neovento 5.6. im trying to see some pics i have on my sd card. How do i get it to work. some help please. the sd card is vfat. is the card mounted? can you cd to it from the command-line? if so, do you have image software installed? i can recommend neon if you don't ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where can I buy miniUSB-m → USB-A-f adapters i n Canada?
2009/11/23 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be: (2 for me, 2 for my colleague) I have 2 questions, though: 1. Can the FreeRunner charge while in USB Host mode? yes 2. If yes, how can I simultaneously connect a USB hub + power supply/source to the FreeRunner? there's a cable that has been made/bought by a few fr owners, which will allow this. it's detailed on the om wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Specialized_USB_cables ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: future phones that you can hack. news.
2009/11/18 ri...@happyleptic.org: If we are allowed to hack it as much as you are allowed to speack about it, well... steady on, i think both you and christoph are jumping to unfair conclusions there let's wait and see, before we lay into it or the programmers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Received SMS going unnoticed
2009/11/13 Ben Wilson b...@abcom.co.nz: What would be ideal is for it to keep playing the new message sound every few minutes while the new message popup is being displayed. Does anyone have a cron script or anything to solve this problem. personally, i would find it very useful to tie this in to the vibrators, so when i pick the phone up, it notifies me again of a text/missed call. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Received SMS going unnoticed
2009/11/13 Ben Wilson b...@abcom.co.nz: Good idea, Could use the accelerometers to sense it being picked up. Couldn't do it in gta01 though, since it doesn't have the sensors. d'oh! yeah, i meant accelerometers, not vibrators. of course, the notification would follow whatever is defined in the settings|profiles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Looking for a convenient tool
2009/11/7 ri...@happyleptic.org: I'm looking for a program that, given a set of shell commands, display a gtk window with a button that runs each command. I have looked at zenity but it apparently lacks the button widgets. Do you know of something similar, or should I write it myself ? have a look at gtkdialog - it's similar to zenity, but far more flexible and powerful ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps 0.9.8
2009/11/2 Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com: I have currently no working OE here and there are now too many distribs. However, you can try the armel.deb. Just extract the tangogps binary from the .deb (do it on your desktop/laptop) and copy it to your Neo. .deb packages can be installed natively with opkg. you'll need to edit /etc/opkg/arch.conf, and add 'arch armel 36' (without the quotes) to the bottom then do wget http://www.tangogps.org/downloads/tangogps_0.9.8-1_armel.deb and opkg install tangogps_0.9.8-1_armel.deb ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Centralization of graphical awesomeness
2009/10/29 Ken Young r...@cfa.harvard.edu: 2) The Freerunner has one, and ONLY ONE, feature which is somewhat better than what is found on a typical smart phone. The VGA display. no. you're right, the fr has one feature better than any other smartphone, but it's not the screen. it's not any of the hardware, it's far more important than that it's the openness give the user a choice, let them decide if they want pixels or speed. that's what open is about ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Understanding accelerometer data
2009/10/30 Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com: I'd expect the x and y values to be much smaller than the z values (compared to the ratios here) because of the z value including gravity. Am I misunderstanding what the data is telling me? yes. acceleration is change of velocity. if there is no change in velocity, there will be no acceleration. hence, if the phone is still, all acc values should be zero. gravity or not, there is no net acc on the phone. i don't know the format the accelerometers output data in, but i'd take a punt that the values shown are noise. try running one of the acc scripts on the wiki and going for a walk/run/climbing steps/waving it around/car ride with it, to see what sort of acc values you can get for different activities ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] which to use?
2009/10/30 Tony McKeehan mck...@rpi.edu: I was thinking about try SHR again, but I don't know which image I should use. I heard somewhere that there was a mostly-stable image built in October, but I can't find it anywhere. I have the unstable from early September, but I thought that there was something more recent than that. from the shr build repo, it looks like the last update to unstable was sept 18th http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/ipk/armv4t/ and that ties in with my recollections of the last update as to which to use, unstable is actually pretty stable. it does phone calls and text messages no problem. i'm pretty happy with it, and the maintainers include new packages (intone, launcher, etc.) fairly quickly there's never been a stable release of shr, but there is a testing release, which is supposedly more stable than unstable, but that's apparently as old as may: http://build.shr-project.org/shr-testing/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: web-manager 0.2
2009/10/17 Baruch Even bar...@ev-en.org: To those who don't know web-manager is my take on oshyrman, it's a web interface to the freerunner (actually, to FSO infrastructure) and it currently shows the GSM reception, GPX traces from tangogps, lists contacts from opimd and lists messages from opimd. are there any plans to allow conversion of those tangogps .log traces to .gpx, along with upload to an osm account? I really suck at doing UIs and web UIs in particular, the RPC that I implement is REST-like (I'm no puritan in that respect) and provides JSON output to simple requests. The web interface is written in jQuery and is really in need of some love. Anyone wants to take it to the next level and actually use the full abilities of HTML/CSS/JS to make it a great interface? Feedback is most welcome! where is it? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Keyboard layouts for extremely fat fingers
2009/10/10 Michael Smith michael.sm...@netapps.com.au: I have created two keyboard layouts for the illume keyboard. They are available from this repository: http://glitch.tl/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/home/host/glitch.tl/repos/openmoko-keyboards/file/tip The layouts each have keys as large as I can make them. I found the existing layouts to be of little use without a stylus. could you post some screenshots? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: evopedia 0.2.3 release
2009/10/9 Christian christ...@exinto.de: The following dump languages are available at the moment: Dutch, French, German, Italian, Polish and Spanish. could you supply the code used to create the dumps? i realise your reticence to create the english dump (i assume size?) - i would be interested in creating my own though ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release
2009/10/3 Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no: Actually, I got a mail once telling me not to do that. Seems there were limited room on servers, and too much of my tracks were known stuff. So now I only edit with josm, I don't upload tracks. who told you that? i'd be very surprised if that was anyone who actually had an involvement with the osm infrastructure (servers, etc.). the people involved in maintaining and directing osm are pretty light in their instructions to everyone else (which has good and bad side effects...) myself, i'd be inclined to ignore them and carry on uploading tracks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: recommendations for headset or 3.5mm adapter
2009/9/28 Stefan Buschmann s_buschm...@gmx.de: I also thought about soldering my own adapter, although my soldering skills are near to zero, but that might also be good for practicing :-) So, would it be possible to solder a wire like this? - 1 x 2.5mm to - 2 x 3.5mm (one for standard earphone, one for standard microphone) That way I could use standard earphones or a PC-headset, which would be very nice. And given the configuration of the pins, it should not be too hard to make. So, would this approach work, or is there something else to consider which I as a software-only geek don't think of? it doesn't have two sockets, but you might be able to adapt this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=310114120680ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:US:12 it's been working well on mine for several weeks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release
2009/9/22 Alexander Lehner leh...@edv-buero-lehner.de: I'm not sure whether the gpx import is part of tangogps by default. I once wrote a hacked version that did that. In fact it was not a real XML parser, but only a stupid lookup of strings, so if it doesn't work any more, it would be easy to make that work again. if anyone is interested in an xml parser, to convert gpx to tangogps format, a friend and i wrote a xslt parser a few months back. see here for more info: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/TangoGPS#Importing_Tracks_into_tangoGPS ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps 0.9.7 release
2009/9/22 Marcus Bauer marcus.ba...@gmail.com: First of all thanks for the many positive emails I got over the last months, motivating me to bring a new release of tangoGPS to the coolest open hardware gadget on earth - the openmoko phone. excellent work, marcus. looking forward to using it is there a binary for openmoko? shr devs, could you get the new version in the repos? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mplayer?
2009/9/17 David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com: So have ext2/3 with the upcoming btrfs [1]. ext2/3 were good on 90's, but they are absolutely outdated, slow and featureless. For example, Tail packing and good small file performance is a must with OSM tiles. You don't have any of two with ext2/3... Another good alternative would be JFS (although I don't know how it performs with many small files), but there is not jfs module on om kernel. i wouldn't say featureless, exactly anyway, how would i go about changing to something more modern? say ext4 or btrfs? is possible without a format/reinstall? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] Latest update failed and connectivity lost
2009/9/17 Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com: I searched some mailing list archives, and this magic incantation let me connect to the network again (I had the same problems as you're having...) opkg install -force-reinstall libgsm0710mux0 libfsotransport0 \ libfsoframework0 libfsobasics0 fso-abyss fsousaged \ libgsm0710mux-config frameworkd frameworkd-config-shr \ libframeworkd-phonegui-efl0 \ shr-contacts shr-messages shr-dialer ophonekitd that'll do it, although afaict it's only actually libfsotransport0 that's causing the problem - something uninstalls it during certain upgrades. possibly a deps issue ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mplayer?
2009/9/17 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: Can you try playing the songs from the terminal to see if mplayer crashes or gives some error? I do need to make intone more immune to mplayer crashes and errors - and iron out bugs if intone is causing the problems. Are you using the latest version of intone? I use this mplayer version from paultt. [1] yes, i've got the latest intone i did some more digging last night, and realised mplayer is in the shr repos. i must have missed that. i installed their version, and everything plays perfectly now. so i can listen to music again! thanks for the suggestions, and for a great little app ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: mplayer?
2009/9/17 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: Well, it's great to hear your music is being played fine. I'm still trying to find a solution to your song scanning issue on reiserfs. Just that I've been a little short of time of late having spent a lot of time on upgrading launcher's inbuilt sms, contacts and phonelog apps. Have you tried the new launcher? no, i don't use resiser, i've always been on ext2/3 for my neo. the former doesn't have a good future, unfortunately the song scanning is ok. it wasn't failing/crashing, just taking a *very* long time. some files it would import in 1 second or less. some would take several minutes ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
mplayer?
hi all, i've been having lots of problems with intone locking up when i play mp3s - every one i have. i'm wondering if it's an mplayer issue are there any alternative builds of mplayer i could try? the version i'm using i got from here: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player#Using_the_Glamo_XV_acceleration cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: For all ya BFS (brain fuck scheduler) lovers out there
2009/9/14 Paul Fertser fercer...@gmail.com: Read all the details at [1] and to try it on your devices, simply do: mkdir /debug mount -t debugfs none /debug echo NO_NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS /debug/sched_features how often, if at all, will this get returned to the default value? every reboot? every upgrade of kernel? of some module? when i do a cat, it returns this: NEW_FAIR_SLEEPERS NORMALIZED_SLEEPER WAKEUP_PREEMPT START_DEBIT AFFINE_WAKEUPS CACHE_HOT_BUDDY SYNC_WAKEUPS NO_HRTICK NO_DOUBLE_TICK ASYM_GRAN LB_BIAS LB_WAKEUP_UPDATE ASYM_EFF_LOAD NO_WAKEUP_OVERLAP LAST_BUDDY has it been overwritten already, by a reboot? it looks like it has cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] USB Device-Network-Mode Switcher
2009/9/15 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com: I recently had my Neo with me to visit some friends and always found it quite annoying to have to ssh into it, especially if they ran Windows®. So I built a little python script and a .desktop icon that can switch between network and device mode by just a touch. ;) You might (will) want to adjust mountpoints and the script path in the .desktop file. As always, this only works if you're running the OS from internal flash. And it might eat your cat, which would be sad. (Of course I don't expect it to do so.) I'm curious to hear if this makes someone happy. :) http://d-a300.selfip.net/files/devnetswitch.tar.gz (Feel free to host somewhere, the DynDNS-hostname isn't too reliable.) please don't take this as criticism - it's great people work on stuff like this, but i'm afraid this has already been implemented, in shr-settings via a slide switch ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Icon issue with SHR-unstable...
2009/9/15 John Dowd jdowds...@gmail.com: I can run the Linphone app but on the neo main display the linphone icon is shown as the default (or unknown) icon of a blank page. The linphone app has a linphone.png file under /usr/share/pixmaps (I just copied it there) but after I rebooted, it's still the blank page showing. Where should the linphone icon file go and is a png format the correct format to use for SHR? yes, png will work fine which icon theme are you using? i've got the nEo theme installed in shr-u, and it changes the root of the pixmaps dir to a different location (dunno how, must be a conf file somwhere), so the location on my machine becomes /usr/share/icons/nEo/86x86/apps ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where can I buy miniUSB-m → USB-A-f adapters i n Canada?
2009/9/14 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be: Bright idea ;), but I got the same product for even closer to nothing: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=150368985447 jeez, less than a dollar...and post costs 2 and a half times as much good score ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Dbus api for gta2 accelerometers
2009/9/12 Frederik Sdun frederik.s...@googlemail.com: There is no DBus API for the accelerometers, because it throws up to 100 signals a second. That's too much for poor little Freerunner and it was removed at what point could the api handle the data? iirc, the data rate can be set, so i'm guessing something more sensible would be usable? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Where can I buy miniUSB-m → USB-A-f adapters i n Canada?
2009/9/11 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be: A few days ago, I was chatting with DocScrutinizer in #openmoko on FreeNode about using a USB → Ethernet adapter to connect my FreeRunner directly to my Ethernet LAN. DocScrutinizer told me I need a miniUSB-m → USB-A-f adapter or a cable like this: i bought a female to female adapter on my local auction site for about $4 and use it with conventional usb cables; i'm sure ebay will have something similar. hard to search for though, you might have to do a lot of browsing through usb categories also, if you're after a usb ethernet device, i got one from ledshoppe for next to nothing http://ledshoppe.com/Product/com/CA3005.htm ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Web site promoting open hardware?
2009/9/11 Stefan Monnier monn...@iro.umontreal.ca: While looking for new hardware, I noticed that all the open hardware I know, I discovered it by accident while reading some mailing-list. Is there a web site somewhere that kind of centralizes this info to try and make it easier for openness-conscious consumers to find appropriate hardware? Of course, there are various notions of open hardware, so there might be parts of the site for hardware-hackers, for example, but I'm more interested in a web-site for end-users. Also it might include hardware that is not itself open source, but where the company states a clear commitment to Free Software principles. I.e. a site that links to things like Openmoko, Qi, AlwaysInnovating, maybe Lemote, OpenPandora, ... this guy looks like he wants to do something around this idea, but he also looks like he's not progressed too far. maybe he has ideas but needs some motivation/help? he talks of open hardware certification, whatever that is http://openhardware.org/ decent domain name, no? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Evopedia 0.2.2
2009/8/31 Christian Reitwießner christ...@reitwiessner.de: Evopedia version 0.2.2 has been released. The major new feature is an interactive map of articles. Images for this map are automatically taken from downloaded map tiles of tangoGPS or from Openstreetmap.org if these cannot be found (and you are online). If you do not have any images and no internet connection, at least the articles are displayed at the right location (if the zoom level is high enough). Evopedia is an offline Wikipedia reader that can be viewed using any browser you like (midori is the default). You need to download a Wikipedia dump (apart from the software also available there) from http://www.reitwiessner.de/openmoko/evopedia.html The following dump languages are available at the moment: Dutch, French, German, Italian and Spanish. Polish is currently in the queue. i see there's no english version available yet. understandable with the size. can you tell me what has to be done to create the file? do you have a script? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: nEo theme issues
2009/9/9 pike pike-openm...@kw.nl: OK then, here I go - I installed the (brilliant) neo theme. One of the issues I had with it was that - I think - some windows use a black font on a black background - I'm not sure, all I see is black :-) This was so annoying that I tried to uninstall it using the directions here [1], but I never got it really removed; still lots of black screens with green hairlines. More annoying, some windows still show black text on a black background, amongst which the 'read sms' screen and a screen called 'notification' of which I'm not sure what spawns it - I cant read it :-) yeah, i had this problem following the first opkg upgrade after i installed the neo theme. it sounds like you've not got the one of the theme packages installed - there's 6 of them try this, it worked for me: opkg -force-overwrite install \ http://www.opkg.org/packages/elementary-theme-neo_0.2_armv4t.ipk \ http://www.opkg.org/packages/e-wm-theme-neo_0.2_armv4t.ipk \ http://www.opkg.org/packages/etk-theme-neo_0.2_armv4t.ipk \ http://www.opkg.org/packages/libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo_0.2_armv4t.ipk \ http://www.opkg.org/packages/gtk-theme-neo_0.1_armv4t.ipk \ http://www.opkg.org/packages/gpe-theme-neo_0.1_armv4t.ipk ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme
2009/9/2 pike pike-openm...@kw.nl: I accidentaly changed the illume theme from illume-shr to 'default'. you wouldnt think that could hurt so much :-D but since i dont have the topbar anymore, i can't get to the illume wrench to change it back. i'd do it through the terminal, but i have no keyboard - because that is in the topbar to. plus, i can't ssh into the machine at this point - probably something with /etc/default/dropbear, but I can't change that without a terminal (and a keyboard) too. s .. i'm stuck ? reflash it ? i think you can delete your /home/root/.e folder and everything will reset to the original settings not sure why there's no topbar anymore, i'm sure both themes have it ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] stuck in the 'default' theme [solved]
2009/9/2 pike pike-openm...@kw.nl: i think you can delete your /home/root/.e folder and everything will reset to the original settings I managed to log in through wifi - boy am i glad i made a desktop icon for activating my home wifi :-) - and deleting ~/.e did it. of course, you can always log in through ssh over usb ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problems with intone
2009/9/2 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: Ok. Thanks. That helped catch a bug. Can you try the attached binary and see if it works? Just scp it to /usr/bin. Do post back. Thanks Again. i did the scan again, it took ages (it always hangs at 46 tracks in 6 albums), so i tapped the close icon on the message box, and it segfaulted. done this three times now, always identical no error message on the console, other than segfault ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problems with intone
2009/9/3 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: Well, that could be an issue with the song file. Can you fsck your filesystem containing the audio files. right, done that. whoops, it had been mounted 414 times without a check Yup. Thats another bug fixed - stopping the scan is a problem as of now. Will work on it later. Can you try the attached binary from the terminal? It will print out names of the files it is adding. Maybe that can give some clue as to why it hangs. Thanks http://n2.nabble.com/file/n3566692/intone intone it still hangs at the same track: i found which, but there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with it - it plays fine on my desktop via mplayer an associated problem is when i play some files. i hit play, and the system hangs. the only way to kill intone is by holding down the power button. when i do this, after the x server has shutdown, there are hundreds of lines of text streaming by, too fast to read when i reboot, the same files will play just fine though ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Setting regional codes
2009/9/1 Tom Yates madhat...@teaparty.net: that's great news. are you in the UK? NZ, but it shouldn't matter and if so, could you let me know a) your /etc/phone-utils.conf b) a couple [local] international_prefix = 00 national_prefix = 0 country_code = 64 area_code = 0 of contacts from your address book (i don't want to know the numbers, just the first three or four digits so i can see what format you store them in) +447752xx (uk mobile) +64210xxx (nz mobile) +64210xxx (nz mobile) 0210xx (nz mobile) 04 917 (nz landline) and c) confirmation that the numbers are resolved to contact names for incoming calls AND call log entries AND SMS messages? incoming calls: i probably make/receive one call a month, if that, so i can't help at the moment call log: yes messages: yes Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: International prefix is *never* +. Most probably (as in whole Europe) you have to set it as 00. i wouldn't be so sure on that. mine is 00, that's for nz. it varies by country ok, done. i tried both, and it didn't help. What is that area_code=1223? Try with area_code blanked. that's my local area code (comparable to 179 in the wiki article i sent you). it's badly worded, it means the prefix to area codes (i.e. for vast majority of countries, '0') ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
2009/9/1 Alex Teiche xelap...@gmail.com: A message on the front of the Wiki would be nice. i use the wiki perhaps 2/3 times a week. i haven't been to the front page in months ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
2009/9/1 Alex Teiche xelap...@gmail.com: Better idea? yes: don't harass people if they want to take part in the community, they'll join the list, see the email and maybe answer the survey. if they aren't subscribed to the list, it's probably cos they don't want to be an active member of the community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen
i installed the nEo theme a few days back and love it - so much faster, more consistent, it's great i'd like to use the nEo boot screen also, in place of the 'don't panic' splash, but illume segfaults whenever i try to open the 'startup' option in the illume settings manager any suggestions? i've seen the shr-settings module, but it's not listed in there - there's only the 'don't panic' theme thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
problems with intone
i've been using intone on and off since version 0.3 something, but since 0.66 (i think), it's got a nasty bug. whenever i try to add songs to the db, it hangs after importing them, and leaves the 'adding 245 tracks and 13 albums' message pane up. sometimes it stops after getting part way through the process, then crashes when i close the 'adding tracks...' message, and outputs this error message to the console: Xlib: unexpected async reply (sequence 0x58c)! Xlib: sequence lost (0x1058c 0x58e) in reply type 0x0! i've tried deleting the intone_songs.db file in ~/.intone, but it still happens i've tried reinstalling intone can't be closed or killall'd, and i have to restart the xserver, at which point the songs i've imported appear in the 'now playing' screen any suggestions? oh, and how do i delete tracks from the 'now playing' screen? after adding tracks and playing them, they stay there, and i can't find the delete button cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen
2009/9/1 Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.com: More than boot screen, I would like to see it integrated better in shr.. 1) bbfiles in shr/import 2) no-overwrite between standard libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme and libframeworkd-phonegui-efl-theme-neo, the same for etk-theme-shr and eth-theme-neo With every rebuild of standart shr themes, the files are overwritten on neo with upgrade and then I have to manually overwrite them again by installing -neo.opkgs. Or I would get inconsistent look. yes! +10 for that ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] the nEo theme boot screen
2009/9/1 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com: I'm shr-splash author. Illume has nothing to do with boot splash screen. Don't search for it in illume wrench. AFAIK there is no nEo theme for shr-splash. In SHR are available only simple, dontpanic, handy and niebiee. Qalee is also using shr-splash and they have their own theme. I don't know anything about other themes. right, i must have my terminology wrong then. what's the thing called that displays the nEo boot screen? the thing that has messages about hamsters and formatting my sd card, and recalculating pi? what does the 'startup' option in illume settings, control? what does the 'Splash settings' in shr-settings/appearance, control? if neither of the latter two controls the hamster/sd card/pi thing, how do i control it? other than force-installing and overwriting stuff? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: SHR clock reset
2009/8/28 Michal Brzozowski ruso...@poczta.fm: I'm having the following problem on SHR-u. The clock resets itself to 0:00 Jan 1 2000 once in a while. Sometimes it's correct again. Any idea which program is doing this? Is it getting incorrect time from GSM? i get this sometimes when shr breaks and i switch to om2009 till it gets fixed. i'm not 100% why, but think it's due to not syncing the rtc and the system clock. have you tried hwclock to see what's sync'd to what? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Python email or direct GMail lib?
2009/8/25 Marcel tan...@googlemail.com: I'm writing a minimal gmail client for the Neo and found that libgmail has loads of dependencies when trying it on the Hardware (which wasn't successful until now because of these deps). Does someone of you know a (possibly easily *g*) usable direct gmail or general email library? have a look at what this guy's done - he uses some libraries which interface with various google services. no idea if he uses a special gmail library or imap access (out of interest, why are you limiting your app to reading mail through gmail's methods, instead of imap?) http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Knjrepository hope it's helpful ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Mechanical Design of the Freerunner/gta02-core/gta03
2009/8/25 Ben Thompson b...@york.ac.uk: Perhaps it is best simply to have a sequential number which applies to any sort of document be it PCB layout, mechanical CAD drawing, etc. It is also necesarry to have some sort to revision number, which might be separate from the number on the drawing itself. So what I am saying is, do not do this :- Example PCB layout - PCB-LAYER1-12345-GTA02_core rev 3 Example CAD drawing - DWG-MOULDING-12345-GTA02_core rev 3 Instead do this :- Example PCB layout - 001 rev 3 Example CAD drawing - 002 rev 3 What does anyone else think? depends on the number of drawings you have. having worked on projects (admittedly slightly larger than the neo...) with hundreds of drawings, it helps no end having your fire protection set labelled differently to the aircon, and again labelled differently to the sanitary systems and structural steel. i'd imagine the same could apply to the pcb layout, case mouldings, and whatever other component sets you wish to separate ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] opkg upgrade results in no GSM again :(
2009/8/23 DRSp. it...@gmx.net: Same here. With an old frameworkd.conf (date 18.08.09) I've got GSM working again. did you need to do anything other than copying the .conf file into the correct place? i was having the same problems, so copied the file across and rebooted, but no joy yet ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
osm2go on the freerunner
hi all, i've been trying out osm2go recently on the freerunner, for offline editing. has anyone else had a go with it? there are ipk packages and deps at the links below. problem is, i get a segfault whenever i try to load a project. also, i'm getting the following python error on start: Using **pending_return in dbus_connection_send_with_reply_setup() without pending_setup is deprecated and strongly discouraged http://comiles.eu/~natanael/projects/osm2go/ http://comiles.eu/~natanael/projects/goocanvas/ any suggestions? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: One second Openmoko boot?
2009/8/20 Jon 'maddog' Hall mad...@li.org: I have a friend of mine who's multi-user Linux system was recently up for thirty days before a power failure caused it to go down. I had a Digital Unix system on my desk up for an entire year without rebooting. We had cases of VAX/Ultrix systems up for over three years without a reboot. IMHO the only time you should have to cold reboot an operating system is when there is a change to a critical section of the kernel, or perhaps a hardware failure and with loadable kernel modules and loadable device drivers (to say nothing of user-mode device drivers), those sections and failures are relatively few. i think this whole idea is fatelly flawed i've never understood the fascination of linux users with keeping systems up for days and months on end. sure, it's great for a server hosting web sites, or in a corporate environment, but for a home system? it comes across as nothing more than who's the most '1337', which is really lame. add to that the power wasted and it's verging on the pointless as for phones, there are many reasons i turn mine off - not least because there's no way i want to be contactable at night, and when i'm doing other things where i don't want to be interrupted. it gets turned on and off at least once a day. my phone exists to serve me, not the other way around do you realise the effects of the 'always-connected' lifestyle? they're not good at all /return rant over anyway, the point i'm getting at is: a quick boot time, it doesn't have to be one second, is definitely an advantage ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PISI 0.4 released
2009/8/10 Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de: We just released PISI 0.4. i did a sync a moment ago, from sim to interactive vcf file. it popped up a dialogue ox asking for a file anme, but i couldn't read most of it, because too much of it was off screen. could you modify this, so i can figure out what's happening? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PISI 0.4 released
2009/8/19 Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de: We used standard GTK Filedialog for this ... I am trying to think of any solution (with no need to touch GTK code ;)) ... To be honest - I can't bring up any good ... for the mean time, you could simply hard code the path of the vcf file in your config file (/home/root/.pisi/conf: instead of @interactive@) ... right, i can do that no problem. i wasn't actually sure what an interactive vcf file was...now i realise interactive refers to the method of using it, not the file itself. ah, the joys of the english language and it's many ambiguities I don't even know, whether there are any efforts for fitting GTK on mobile devices - anybody else here with some input?? i could only suggest re-writing it in e, but that's a huge amount of work that probably justifiably, you're not keen to do oh, excellent software by the way. cheers for the effort ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
open-source gsm
for the non-slashdot readers: harald welte, a previous contributor here, has set up an open-source gsm network at a hack fest in the netherlands. all legal more details here: http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/09/08/17/0014235/Open-Source-GSM-Network-At-Dutch-Hacker-Convention?art_pos=4 no mention i can see of whether the modem runs open firmware or not, but we can live in hope ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Convert Tangogps's poi.db JOSM suitable gpx files
2009/8/16 GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org: I've made a python script that converts poi.db in gpx files... what should I do with it? put it on the wiki, on the tangogps page? package it up and put it on opkg.org? you might want to check tangogps.org, i'm sure something similar already exists. the writer might be interested in merging his script and yours? or maybe hosting your script? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR-U] Impressions and Problems
2009/8/15 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com: For libframeworkd-phonegui-efl users (default SHR): as said before, you have to edit /etc/phone-utils.conf to match your country. SHR Settings module for that is planned and should arrive soon. bloody brilliant! i wish i'd known this earlier. now my messages app understands all the phone numbers in contacts, regardless of prefix cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Evopedia 0.2.1
2009/8/12 Vincent MEURISSE openmoko-commun...@meurisse.org: On Wednesday 12 August 2009 10:09:51 am Christian Reitwießner wrote: So the bottom line is: I don't know if the size can be reduced significantly. For Evopedia 2.0 I do the dumps myself (mainly because those on static.wikipedia.org are more than a year old), but it takes really long Why not use dump DB from http://download.wikimedia.org/backup-index.html ? The last dump for English version is 5GB but you will probably need to add an index to have the file usable. there's also this, which takes an xml dump as produced by wikipedia every two months or so, processes it in a few hours to produce an index, and will run anywhere that has php, perl and a couple of other generic utilities http://users.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~ttsiod/buildWikipediaOffline.html i had it on my laptop a while back, it was very usable. no images though ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
2009/8/12 c_c cchan...@yahoo.com: No. I've had to install shr-U on another partition on my sd-card and am using that. Waiting for the right version of the package to hit the repository for now so, you installed an earlier version, which didn't have this bug? is that correct? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [shr-u] wifi timeout with mokonnect
2009/8/11 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: To me it has never worked, but never means in images 20090721 and 20090808 of shr-u It doesn't even bother to set the SSID, but I don't know who's really at fault here, mokonnect or connman. Anyway, connman is a real piece of crap (but NetworkManager is just marginally lesser crap) sprout from people with NIH sindrome who don't understand NM. does wifi work yet with newer kernels? i heard some time back that .29 had issues. i don't think i've ever got wifi to work ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest update fsousaged crash!!
2009/8/11 Linus Gasser ine...@markas-al-nour.org: ** (process:1812): CRITICAL **: fso_framework_logger_createFromKeyFile: assertion `domain != NULL' failed Segmentation fault What can I do? Help!! Do what I did - re-install on the second partition and copy /home/root over to it... do you know what causes this? it'd be nice to get it sorted without having to reinstall thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: PISI 0.4 released
2009/8/10 Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de: Supported Contacts data sources: - SIM via DBUS (e.g. SHR) - QTopia address book (e.g. OM 2008.12) - LDAP (read only) - VCF files (local / webdav) - Google contacts - OPIMD Supported Calendar data sources: - Google calendars - ICalendar files (local / webdav) Get your copy here: http://www.opkg.org/package_191.html excellent, been waiting for some updates. i get this on installing from opkg.org: * Package python-vobject md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'. * Package python-gdata md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'. * Package python-ldap md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'. * Package python-dateutil md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'. * Package python-dateutil md5sum mismatch. Either the opkg or the package index are corrupt. Try 'opkg update'. this is on shr-unstable, all updates applied, as of 2009/08/10 cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[shr-u] update oddities
i ran opkg upgrade tonight, and got a huge number of errors, concerning files that opkg wanted to delete: * Warning: remove /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps/htop.png|f3bf8110b7c66985c0e9511518eb0451 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps/gpe-sketchbook.png|6a5a7da437cc6bf601f23a0205aeeb8d failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps/gpe-scap.png|04b94cdcdf0490559d238fcb963900fa failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/share/icons/shr/86x86/apps/openmoko-messages.png|b27a3e8bced6fd3b8c7836e0e8921e91 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/libfso-glib.so|83b0827d697d3502f4cffbbae598e51a failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/share/vala/vapi/fso-glib-1.0.vapi|b62e0c6fa3cc6a99a88f9e0f74f804d8 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/pkgconfig/fso-glib-1.0.pc|1a1e023fe3ad97561e6d30d337a89143 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/share/vala/vapi/fso-glib-1.0.deps|d607d95150c6a0a52126e84a8b0e3c5c failed: No such file or directory and (slightly worryingly, looks like a load of python stuff has issues, although the files listed are still on the system): * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/cxnet/netlink/generic.pyo|8741d83c8f953579d21d920d78404a0f failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogpsd/ubx.pyo|68e03ea1331fed87fe642b8b532d9224 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/opreferencesd/schema.pyo|ccfed8532319e9f5be5a1b4b621e3e00 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/odeviced/idlenotifier.py|33b3cf5a36061e5eb24115953aded764 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/cxutil/ip.py|42943857b35986ace4b25036bb48573e failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/ti_calypso/mediator.pyo|796c09d1431125cc29f97c7cb3a2ff54 failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/cxnet/__init__.pyo|3835845944aa95b483b557b0f9b7eedd failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/gsm/channel.py|6f3a52d21a5598fbdde7439dd868147f failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/subsystems/ogsmd/modems/qualcomm_msm/channel.py|568e9f718c4f6c92ec88dd7165266fcb failed: No such file or directory * Warning: remove /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/framework/cxnet/netlink/rtnl.pyo|4be9c018f683c84d24f7ce3bddc196dd failed: No such file or directory this is only a snippet of them, there was more than 20 pages of yakuake history with these in i see each has a 32 character hex string after the filename, is this relevant? oh, and one update failed, because an updated frameworkd-config-shr was missing otherwise, all looks good. any ideas? cheers ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [all] opkg killed by navit install
2009/7/25 Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com: i've been trying to install the latest navit (2398) from the navit repository, and am having the usual problems with opkg not being able to handle it. i've created a 128mb swap file, and turned off the x server, but no dice. never mind, opkg install navit does it ok. not sure why opkg upgrade wouldn't though ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)
2009/7/25 Onen onen...@free.fr: Nick did a very nice work about the visualisation interface of the cells on the website [1]. You can now browse and zoom to an area, and see (depending on the level of zoom), LACs and cells. When you select one item, you can click on it to see the coverage of the item. This is still beta, as we encounter sometimes cells which does not appear, or disappear after zoom in or out. But it is *very* much better interface. fantastic, good work is there any work to get this data into the osm database? i assume the license is compatible? it would be great to get existing cells rendered on an alternative tile set, cache them for viewing in tangogps and see where the blank spots are, to know where needs collecting. by the way, i'm curious, why there is only one provider listed for new zealand? i assume only data for vodafone cells has been collected, and no telecom or 2degrees/worldcom? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Openwrt] how to ssh OM?
2009/7/26 jumper dev dev.jum...@gmail.com: the problem is my router uses that address (192.168.1.1) .. iirc there's info on the usb networking page of the wiki about changing the address of either your router or freerunner. both are fairly trivial ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)
2009/7/26 Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: is there any work to get this data into the osm database? i assume the license is compatible? it would be great to get existing cells rendered on an alternative tile set, cache them for viewing in tangogps and see where the blank spots are, to know where needs collecting. If we could get all the average points for a network/country/region as KML, it wouldn't be too hard to convert them into tangogps POIs (although then you'd have alot of POIs). hmm, that sounds slow and clumsy imo; i'd far rather have the tiles. as the license is compatible, i might look at importing it myself. i think there's a tag in osm, but i can always create one if there isn't ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Tangogps (gtk+-fastscaling ghost)
2009/7/26 Glenn Moeller-Holst glenn.mh...@gmail.com: Is gtk+-fastscaling actually necessary?: no, very obsolete. it's part of gtk now. you can use -force-depends and ignore it ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [openBmap] New cells visualisation interface on the website (beta)
2009/7/26 Onen onen...@free.fr: hmm, that sounds slow and clumsy imo; i'd far rather have the tiles. as the license is compatible, i might look at importing it myself. i think there's a tag in osm, but i can always create one if there isn't What do you mean by having the tiles? Instead of having the regular OSM tiles, and overlay the cells positions, you would have a directly rendered tile set with cells included? yes. i'd like to see locations while i'm on the go, so i can see where to collect more cell data. a custom rendered tile set/navit binary map i believe would be the easiest way to achieve this For importing this info in OSM, please keep in mind, that this is *not* the position of the antenna. yep, i realise that. i'm not going to tear ahead and throw the data in. there's plenty of thought on how to approach this ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
2009/7/26 Adam Jimerson vend...@gmail.com: Only downsides to using ffalram for this first no reoccurring alarm support yet and second there is no way to add a note or any kind of message reminding you why the alarm is going off leaving the user having to remember why they set the alarm, don't know if this is by design or not implemented yet or what. i think dates will do this ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Openwrt] how do I update it ?
2009/7/26 li...@kitepilot.com: Finally Openwrt seems to be doing the job a need, a working phone, a working messaging system and a working Xterm. I need to get the headset and the bluetooth working, which leads me to the question: How do I update Openwrt ? Is there a dpkg (or opkg) What's the normal procedure to install new software on a Openwrt Freerunner? no idea. have you tried running any probables? i.e. opkg, dpkg, apt-get? or looking in /usr/bin /bin /sbin etc, to see what's there? i'm sure there'll be no serious outcomes if you try to run them, and they're not installed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps : updating tiles ?
2009/7/24 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au: Is there any advantage (to the server) of using curl? - is there a reason why openstreetmap would ban one and not the other (or is it just someone(s) using wget beating up their server? why do you think wget has been banned? and what good would it do anyway? change the user-agent string ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tangogps : updating tiles ?
2009/7/21 Ed Kapitein e...@kapitein.org:
for TILE in `find /path/to/tiles -type f`; do
echo ${TILE}
FILE=`basename ${TILE}`
L1=`dirname ${TILE} | gawk -F/ '{ print $NF}'`
L2=`dirname ${TILE} | gawk -F/ '{ print $(NF-1)}'`
curl --output ${TILE}
http://tile.openstreetmap.org/${L2}/${L1}/${FILE};
done
curl and http are on the same line, you mail program might split in over
two lines.
this updates the tiles on the moko regardless of whether or not they
have been re-rendered, right?
very useful, yaouh won't update tiles from the NoName layer, so having
this is great
it was going very slowly, so i added a '-s' to the curl command, and i
think things go a lot quicker now. no feedback, of course
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Re: Can my FreeRunner remind me to shut it down if it is still running at 22:00?
2009/7/25 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be: I prefer to shut down my cell phone before going to bed, but I frequently it may be easier to schedule a cron job which shuts the phone down for you. sounding an alarm to remind you to do something the phone can do, sounds like it's missing the point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
