[CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?doc_id=188456f_src=ieupdate One of the big attractions of the iPod was that it was immediately obvious how to work it. Other MP3 players can still leave one scratching ones head over how to operate them. This article predicts a similar huge market for Apple... The second market of aging baby boomers and the greatest generation may be even more significant in that it is mostly untapped. This market has been largely bypassed by the information age. The majority is off the grid and many are computer phobic. The PC or smart phone is not intuitive to them. The iPad doesn’t feel like a computer. It feels like a tool, such as a TV remote control. It turns on at the touch of a button. It doesn’t take forever to turn on, or require esoteric knowledge or a manual. It’s easy to operate. You don’t need a mouse. The screen is large enough for aging eyes (vs. small screens of smart phones). And users can get 3G continuous Internet access. The iPad for this market introduces online banking, iTunes (music, TV episodes, movies, etc.), YouTube, Facebook, Google, Bing, Hulu, Flickr, and the Web in general easily. And grandparents will finally be able to see pictures and videos of their grandkids instantly while directly communicating with them via email or chat. Apple is tapping a huge greenfield market. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] CNET News.com: Final Cut Pro the Apple of Oscar's eye - CNET News
This email was sent from popoz...@earthlink.net Message from sender: Tom will like this story. Final Cut Pro the Apple of Oscar's eye - CNET News URL: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-10465202-37.html Many filmmakers at Sunday's Academy Awards used Apple's Final Cut Studio to edit their movies. CNET: The source for computers and technology http://www.cnet.com * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] CNET News.com: Final Cut Pro the Apple of Oscar's eye - CNET News
On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Rev. Stewart A. Marshall wrote: Many filmmakers at Sunday's Academy Awards used Apple's Final Cut Studio to edit their movies. Tom will like this story. And Adobe will be pissed off. Apple's FCP entered the market late and quickly shoved all the incumbents off into insignificance. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] CNET News.com: Final Cut Pro the Apple of Oscar's eye - CNET News
The only other one mentioned was Avid. Stewart At 07:19 PM 3/7/2010, you wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Rev. Stewart A. Marshall wrote: Many filmmakers at Sunday's Academy Awards used Apple's Final Cut Studio to edit their movies. Tom will like this story. And Adobe will be pissed off. Apple's FCP entered the market late and quickly shoved all the incumbents off into insignificance. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal
On 03/06/2010 09:23 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: If any pictures of an underage child were taken let alone viewed they are likely open to prosecution for kiddie porn. This happened in Pennsylvania where they prosecuted a teenage girl for taking pictures of herself and emailing them to her boyfriend. I live in PA, while there are idiot DAs, there is no present claim that pornographic pictures were taken or even available. This isn't about porn. There are more ways to allegedly invade privacy than having porn involved. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Art Clemons artclem...@aol.com wrote: On 03/06/2010 09:23 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: If any pictures of an underage child were taken let alone viewed they are likely open to prosecution for kiddie porn. This happened in Pennsylvania where they prosecuted a teenage girl for taking pictures of herself and emailing them to her boyfriend. I live in PA, while there are idiot DAs, there is no present claim that pornographic pictures were taken or even available. This isn't about porn. There are more ways to allegedly invade privacy than having porn involved. No but the prosecutors can choose to escalate the charges if they find anything that qualifies. I grew up in that part of the state. At this point a witch hunt wouldn't surprise me. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] CNET News.com: Final Cut Pro the Apple of Oscar's eye - CNET News
What a laugh. The story reads like an ad for FC Studio, not surprising since it's in Cnet's Apple section. But in fact what it says is that most of the nominees did *not* use FCP. On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:19 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: And Adobe will be pissed off. Apple's FCP entered the market late and quickly shoved all the incumbents off into insignificance. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal
On 03/06/2010 09:23 PM, mike wrote: If this was it, why wasn't he accused of stealing it? Why did school officials continue to watch this kid when they knew he had it? Why did they further accuse him of selling and taking drugs? This software was clearly not used to track a stolen laptop, it was used to spy on a kid in his bedroom. You don't seem to understand the difference between a justification for activating said laptop and your claims. If said laptop was removed without permission, it's still missing, and we don't know that it was possible to identify who had possession of said laptop. I finally note that a justification for investigation doesn't necessarily involve the possibility of criminal charges. Do you really want criminal charges for someone who without permission removed a laptop assigned to that individual in school? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal
At present this is a lot of he said she said type stuff. As stated before we are only getting sound bytes not all the legal niceties. I am only hoping that when this thing truly plays out in the courts (if it does) we get to find out all the stuff that really went on. So far there are just too may enticing snippets being released for maximum impact to know what truly happened. Stewart At 09:24 PM 3/7/2010, you wrote: On 03/06/2010 09:23 PM, mike wrote: If this was it, why wasn't he accused of stealing it? Why did school officials continue to watch this kid when they knew he had it? Why did they further accuse him of selling and taking drugs? This software was clearly not used to track a stolen laptop, it was used to spy on a kid in his bedroom. You don't seem to understand the difference between a justification for activating said laptop and your claims. If said laptop was removed without permission, it's still missing, and we don't know that it was possible to identify who had possession of said laptop. I finally note that a justification for investigation doesn't necessarily involve the possibility of criminal charges. Do you really want criminal charges for someone who without permission removed a laptop assigned to that individual in school? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal
You seem to not understand that after finding who had the 'stolen' laptop they spent zero time in telling the parents the boy had taken it without permission. It never came up. They just called the kid in and tried to accuse him of doing drugs. Then they had to backtrack and explain why they were even watching kids over the cam. On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Art Clemons artclem...@aol.com wrote: On 03/06/2010 09:23 PM, mike wrote: If this was it, why wasn't he accused of stealing it? Why did school officials continue to watch this kid when they knew he had it? Why did they further accuse him of selling and taking drugs? This software was clearly not used to track a stolen laptop, it was used to spy on a kid in his bedroom. You don't seem to understand the difference between a justification for activating said laptop and your claims. If said laptop was removed without permission, it's still missing, and we don't know that it was possible to identify who had possession of said laptop. I finally note that a justification for investigation doesn't necessarily involve the possibility of criminal charges. Do you really want criminal charges for someone who without permission removed a laptop assigned to that individual in school? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] CNET News.com: Final Cut Pro the Apple of Oscar's eye - CNET News
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: What a laugh. The story reads like an ad for FC Studio, not surprising since it's in Cnet's Apple section. But in fact what it says is that most of the nominees did *not* use FCP. What other computer section would an article about an Apple product be? Where are you seeing that most of the nominees did not use Final Cut? Here is what I see, and I quote from the article at the one and only point where there is any mention of nominees: In fact, 9 out of 10 of this year's nominees in the Documentary Feature and Documentary Short categories used Final Cut Studio to make their films. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal
Right now a lot of hearsay and not too many substantiating facts. Also note this is now almost 4 months past when it happened. what happened between the actual incident and now tog et us to this point? There is just too much missing to start drawing firm conclusions on everything. Stewart At 09:33 PM 3/7/2010, you wrote: You seem to not understand that after finding who had the 'stolen' laptop they spent zero time in telling the parents the boy had taken it without permission. It never came up. They just called the kid in and tried to accuse him of doing drugs. Then they had to backtrack and explain why they were even watching kids over the cam. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] CNET News.com: Final Cut Pro the Apple of Oscar's eye - CNET News
Right. That's 9 out of how many movies nominated? Or eligible for nomination? I'm not going to count them all, but I'll just remind you that Documentaries are only a small part of the Oscars. On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:40 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: What a laugh. The story reads like an ad for FC Studio, not surprising since it's in Cnet's Apple section. But in fact what it says is that most of the nominees did *not* use FCP. What other computer section would an article about an Apple product be? Where are you seeing that most of the nominees did not use Final Cut? Here is what I see, and I quote from the article at the one and only point where there is any mention of nominees: In fact, 9 out of 10 of this year's nominees in the Documentary Feature and Documentary Short categories used Final Cut Studio to make their films. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: what happened between the actual incident and now tog et us to this point? Read what I have written about what took place between November 2009 and January 2010 as far as the Robbins family is concerned. Actually, nothing really happened and they thought the whole thing had gone away, but it hadn't. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:33 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: You seem to not understand that after finding who had the 'stolen' laptop they spent zero time in telling the parents the boy had taken it without permission. It never came up. They just called the kid in and tried to accuse him of doing drugs. Then they had to backtrack and explain why they were even watching kids over the cam. We do not know exactly what information the school provided to the parents of the boy who was surveilled. The parents met with school officials back in November of 2009, presumably after that picture had been taken of him eating candies that had been referred to as drugs by a school administrator. The parents claim to have left that meeting under the assumption that the bogus drug charge had been put to rest, I am assuming that any suspicion that their son had stolen the computer had also been put to rest. I also have to guess that the $55.00 insurance fee issue was similarly settled because the boy continued to keep and take home the computer in the aftermath. It was only after the parents learned in January of 2010 that the drug use charge was still in their son's file and that the school system was apparently unwilling to remove it from his file that they took legal action. I guess the parents got ticked off just enough that they decided to make public the information about the spying that took place along with the bogus claim of drug use. It also appears as though even after the surveillance of that boy occurred back in November of 2009, the school system still did not notify any parents or students about the potential for video surveillance that was embedded in those computers. That smacks me of being either incompetence or having made a conscious decision not to reveal that fact. The school used the surveillance 42 times by their count yet it still apparently never dawned on them that some notification about that system would be in order. Wouldn't it have been beneficial to have made that known? Wouldn't that have served as a theft deterrent? It almost seems to me as though the school systems was more interested in experimenting and messing around with the surveillance system than in actually using it to help prevent theft. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
Yes but it still sucks, * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] CNET News.com: Final Cut Pro the Apple of Oscar's eye - CNET News
I think the key is that it did say. Final Cut Pro has almost 50 percent market share in the nonlinear editor space, outperforming competitors like Avid. Many of the big studios and editors may not use it, instead using dedicated expensive editing suites. (They were pretty specific to state non linear) It is pretty powerful. A good product. Stewart At 09:40 PM 3/7/2010, you wrote: What other computer section would an article about an Apple product be? Where are you seeing that most of the nominees did not use Final Cut? Here is what I see, and I quote from the article at the one and only point where there is any mention of nominees: In fact, 9 out of 10 of this year's nominees in the Documentary Feature and Documentary Short categories used Final Cut Studio to make their films. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] CNET News.com: Final Cut Pro the Apple of Oscar's eye - CNET News
That's one area of film making. * Of course, Final Cut Pro isn't the only product available for filmmakers, but it is the most popular now. According to market research firm SCRI International, Final Cut Pro has almost 50 percent market share in the nonlinear editor space, outperforming competitors like Avid. * Later in the article that was written. Just sub 50% share is pretty good. Avid is the other serious player in the field, not Adobe. Wiki claims that FCP only has about 20% when it comes to the pros in the editors guild...you know the guys with A.C.E at the end of their names when you go see a flick. The other 80% is Avid or other. On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 8:40 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: What a laugh. The story reads like an ad for FC Studio, not surprising since it's in Cnet's Apple section. But in fact what it says is that most of the nominees did *not* use FCP. What other computer section would an article about an Apple product be? Where are you seeing that most of the nominees did not use Final Cut? Here is what I see, and I quote from the article at the one and only point where there is any mention of nominees: In fact, 9 out of 10 of this year's nominees in the Documentary Feature and Documentary Short categories used Final Cut Studio to make their films. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
Yeah but, how do you really feel? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Eric S. Sande esa...@verizon.net wrote: Yes but it still sucks, * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal
On 03/06/2010 10:05 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Technical, schmechnical. Give the parents a call, for goodness sake. That's what you do when a school fee has not been paid. What do we have here, the KGB or something? Is this the sort of behavior that technology can breed? Did the parents even know about the policy on not removing said laptop? Just imagine the furor over getting a bill for a removed laptop in those circumstances. I find it amusing that you want workers to assume where a laptop is, rather than investigating with technical tools. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal
I haven't seen it, but perhaps you have..a definitive statement that the school thought the laptop was in fact stolen? I keep seeing vague things like 'security was used in case it was missing or stolen', but never that in this case they had turned it on because of that. And again, if it was stolen by this kid why was only the 'drugs' brought up to the parents? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:04 PM, phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:33 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: You seem to not understand that after finding who had the 'stolen' laptop they spent zero time in telling the parents the boy had taken it without permission. It never came up. They just called the kid in and tried to accuse him of doing drugs. Then they had to backtrack and explain why they were even watching kids over the cam. We do not know exactly what information the school provided to the parents of the boy who was surveilled. The parents met with school officials back in November of 2009, presumably after that picture had been taken of him eating candies that had been referred to as drugs by a school administrator. The parents claim to have left that meeting under the assumption that the bogus drug charge had been put to rest, I am assuming that any suspicion that their son had stolen the computer had also been put to rest. I also have to guess that the $55.00 insurance fee issue was similarly settled because the boy continued to keep and take home the computer in the aftermath. It was only after the parents learned in January of 2010 that the drug use charge was still in their son's file and that the school system was apparently unwilling to remove it from his file that they took legal action. I guess the parents got ticked off just enough that they decided to make public the information about the spying that took place along with the bogus claim of drug use. It also appears as though even after the surveillance of that boy occurred back in November of 2009, the school system still did not notify any parents or students about the potential for video surveillance that was embedded in those computers. That smacks me of being either incompetence or having made a conscious decision not to reveal that fact. The school used the surveillance 42 times by their count yet it still apparently never dawned on them that some notification about that system would be in order. Wouldn't it have been beneficial to have made that known? Wouldn't that have served as a theft deterrent? It almost seems to me as though the school systems was more interested in experimenting and messing around with the surveillance system than in actually using it to help prevent theft. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] CNET News.com: Final Cut Pro the Apple of Oscar's eye - CNET News
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Right. That's 9 out of how many movies nominated? Or eligible for nomination? I'm not going to count them all, but I'll just remind you that Documentaries are only a small part of the Oscars. The article focused solely on those 10 nominations for documentaries. The article, as far as I could see, made no mention of what software was used in any of the other films in other categories. It is quite probable that the big movie studios use software that has been specifically written for their purposes, and is not off the shelf stuff as is Final Cut. To compare Final Cut or other off the shelf software with customized editing software that can cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars would be silly and is not what the article was doing. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] CNET News.com: Final Cut Pro the Apple of Oscar's eye - CNET News
Exactly. This article mentioned that they did this on a budget of less than 15K for computer, hardware, and software. Professional studios used dedicated workstations and computers costing much more money. (add 000s to whatever figure) They are dedicated machines and specialized software. You have to hand it to Apple for developing and marketing FCP. It has made its mark. By the way it is these guys who start off making small films that will someday end up making large films. Stewart At 10:43 PM 3/7/2010, you wrote: On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Tony B ton...@gmail.com wrote: Right. That's 9 out of how many movies nominated? Or eligible for nomination? I'm not going to count them all, but I'll just remind you that Documentaries are only a small part of the Oscars. The article focused solely on those 10 nominations for documentaries. The article, as far as I could see, made no mention of what software was used in any of the other films in other categories. It is quite probable that the big movie studios use software that has been specifically written for their purposes, and is not off the shelf stuff as is Final Cut. To compare Final Cut or other off the shelf software with customized editing software that can cost tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars would be silly and is not what the article was doing. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Art Clemons artclem...@aol.com wrote: The problem for your logic is that the laptop was removed without permission so was missing. The laptop was supposed to be used in school only under the circumstances indicated unless the insurance was purchased. The laptop at best thus was missing. It was not clear when the surveillance began exactly where the missing laptop was. I'll ask again if the laptop had been stolen, would you still term what was done as spying? Spying? Yes, absolutely, and particularly so since no notice had been provided that such would be the consequence for a missing computer. As I said earlier, you first call the parents of the student and query them about the whereabouts of the missing computer. If that pans out to be unsatisfactory, you take it from there. It surely must have been known that the student's computer was supposed to remain in the school because the insurance fee had not been paid. Logic would tell you that the most likely scenario was that the kid was simply taking the computer home despite the fact the fee had not been paid. Kids just act that way. Surely, any high school administrator knows that. You act upon the most likely scenario as opposed to getting all knee-jerk about it. What if a student in the school band was taking home their instrument without having paid the insurance fee on that? Since the instrument would not be equipped a camera, would you call his or her parents about it or would you send someone to the student's home and have them sneak up to the kid's bedroom window and take a peek inside? Furthermore, it is not the duty of the school system to be talking the law into their own hands. When an expensive item ihas been determined to have been stolen, you report that to the police and have them take the appropriate action, not some IT geeks. If the cops want to get a warrant to allow them to view what the computer camera can capture, then let them do that, and proceed accordingly. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal
On 03/07/2010 11:20 PM, mike wrote: I haven't seen it, but perhaps you have..a definitive statement that the school thought the laptop was in fact stolen? I keep seeing vague things like 'security was used in case it was missing or stolen', but never that in this case they had turned it on because of that. And again, if it was stolen by this kid why was only the 'drugs' brought up to the parents? If you check the news story from the Philadelphia Inquirer, you'll note that because a $55 insurance fee wasn't paid, the laptop was supposed to remain in school. The laptop was instead taken home and apparently some form of inventory occurred which lead to discovering that said laptop was missing. You'll note that there is no disputing that the laptop in question was removed from the school without permission. http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/86505452.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal
On Mar 8, 2010 12:45am, Art Clemons artclem...@aol.com wrote: You'll note that there is no disputing that the laptop in question was removed from the school without permission. The question is though is did the kid get in trouble initially for taking the computer home without insurance? We know he was tagged for the eating of illicit candies. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Twist in school spying scandal
Thanks Art, good catch. I'm going to however pick a nit on this article though..it could be just bad writing on the reporter's part or perhaps not. *The district says it turned on the camera in Robbins' computer because, since he had not paid a $55 insurance fee, he should not have been taking it home. *That implies that the student had taken it home more than once and that the school knew it. As in they knew who took it, and could have just phone the kids house. Instead they turn the camera on and then watch long enough to see him snort fun-dip and accuse him of drug taking/selling...no mention of taking the laptop home and the 55 dollar fee. Why not? According to this reporter at least, the school admin knew when they turned it on who had the laptop. On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 10:45 PM, Art Clemons artclem...@aol.com wrote: On 03/07/2010 11:20 PM, mike wrote: I haven't seen it, but perhaps you have..a definitive statement that the school thought the laptop was in fact stolen? I keep seeing vague things like 'security was used in case it was missing or stolen', but never that in this case they had turned it on because of that. And again, if it was stolen by this kid why was only the 'drugs' brought up to the parents? If you check the news story from the Philadelphia Inquirer, you'll note that because a $55 insurance fee wasn't paid, the laptop was supposed to remain in school. The laptop was instead taken home and apparently some form of inventory occurred which lead to discovering that said laptop was missing. You'll note that there is no disputing that the laptop in question was removed from the school without permission. http://www.philly.com/philly/news/homepage/86505452.html * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
