Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:13 PM, Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: If memory and my history books are correct this has been a problem for eons. Perhaps this is a problem for us, but not for them. After all, we are here to serve them, are we not, or did your history book try to convince you that it is really the other way around? Let's read a history book by historian Howard Zinn to see who really serves who. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me
Of course the battery replacement plan should be similar to the iPod plan where they give you a new/refurb unit. So for $100 you get a new iPad. On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 10:02 PM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: This is easy. The iPad is a giant iPod Touch. We can open up the Touch to change the battery. Why not the iPad? The biggest problem is finding a source for the right battery, instead of a cheap copy. The battery could cost $50 [the $5 one is worth 90% less], spudger is less than $5, and you save the rest by doing it yourself, just like any other computer repair. We'll have to see who has OEM batteries. That leaves you with $52 for a nice dinner and a bottle of wine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Is Verizon giving up on building out FIOS?
The article states that the bean counters are waiting for government to pony up for further FIOS deployments. If you don't have it yet you may be out of luck. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/So-Is-This-Where-Verizons-FiOS-Deployment-Ends-107342 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100312/1855128547.shtml -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] PDF creation application
I use WordPerfect also. She ought to upgrade to the latest version, X3. It has an excellent PDF creator built in. WP has had this capability for the last several versions, but the X3 version is most complete. Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: John Duncan Yoyo Open Office lets you print directly to PDF and it is free. I shoulda mentioned that she's firmly stuck in the 1980's and uses WordPerfect. She's talking about moving to Word but _really_ doesn't want to. She uses WP for everything including file management. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] Somebody's been reading the list.
Diane Rehm show Tuesday 03-16 First hour. www.drshow.org. A faster, cheaper and more widely available Internet: How the FCC is proposing to remake the country's communications infrastructure and what it could mean for consumers and the U.S. telecommunications industry. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News
This is a non-issue. These batteries typically last longer that the useful life of the product. Apple typically picks up the cost for premature failures. This smarter design is also a very fair tradeoff for a slimmer, simpler device with a longer battery charge. That is a daily benefit. The battery thing will only happen once, for only a few owners, and that will happen only after many years of happy use. You guys really have problems with technological change. Every time Apple gets ahead of the curve you go ape -- and Apple being Apple, that happens a lot. I'm surprised you are not still pining for DOS. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband
On Mar 15, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Tom most governmental positions that are not controlled by Civil Service law are filled with pols frat boys and sorority sisters. That happens when traitors and terrorists who hate government get elected. I have been through several such cycles while living here in the Capitol. When people get elected who believe that government can make an important difference the results are quite different. I have seen it first hand. You are just feeding us blind ideology in the service of evil. Does not sound like they have their act together that much better than the Bush administration. But that is not untypical for government. Totally bogus criticism. What happened in Haiti was on a totally different scale than what happened in New Orleans. Nobody ever imagined destruction on this scale. Aid could not be delivered overland. It was a foreign country, the US had to work through their government. It was an international effort, the US was one of many participants. Why do preachers always take the side of the rich overlords? Why do they always preach about turning the other cheek and tell the oppressed that their lot in life is God's will? Why do they always give their blessings to unjust wars, traitors, and terrorists? Why are they never on the side of justice? Why do they tell Jesus to leave the room? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband
On Mar 15, 2010, at 8:54 PM, mike wrote: Those environmental policies of leaving nice highly flammable dead wood and brush year after year really helped us get some good fires in. You comment shows that you do not understand the issue. One more thing you know little about. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me
On Mar 15, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: By not putting your refurbs on the secondary market you keep the price higher and control the market for your device. Sounds just like Apple Apple sells lots of refurbs, both at their store and through secondary retailers. What's your point? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me
On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:05 PM, mike wrote: When do these new batteries get into laptops? Not for you PC boy! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me
You go to good restaurants. Battery prices will be all over the place. Price is not always an indicator of quality, manufacturer is. Much like designer clothes. Very often made in the same factory to the same specs and a similar shirt, but with two wildly varying price tags. I see where Foxconn makes a lot of parts for various Apple products. In the PC world their Motherboards are not considered that good. Now that is not a slam on Foxconn. Just goes to show you that out of the same manufacturer can come two varying qualities of products. Smart car/Mercedes - Ford/Volvo - Rolls/Royce/Volkswagen etc. etc. Stewart At 09:02 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote: This is easy. The iPad is a giant iPod Touch. We can open up the Touch to change the battery. Why not the iPad? The biggest problem is finding a source for the right battery, instead of a cheap copy. The battery could cost $50 [the $5 one is worth 90% less], spudger is less than $5, and you save the rest by doing it yourself, just like any other computer repair. We'll have to see who has OEM batteries. That leaves you with $52 for a nice dinner and a bottle of wine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] RIM on the Brink
Palms OS has evolved so far from that it is ridiculous. I have had a Treo 600, 700W, Samsung 7?? and a Motorola Q9. Treos were nice, but clunky. Samsung was a slider, awkward. Motorola was a great phone, only handicap was Windows Mobile 6. The Androids look nice but I am still waiting for the Devour to premiere. Windows phones are evolving and the new Windows Mobile 7 (Zune) looks nice, but I do not want to wait till fall. I am with Verizon and stick with them for coverage reasons. (There is a point behind the Verizon commercials) So I cannot expect to see an Iphone on the Verizon Network probably in my life time. Stewart At 06:55 PM 3/15/2010, you wrote: I have only had one palm device ...a Palm IIIc ...wonderful device ...very nice for carrying around a database I needed professionally ...had good battery life ...could be backed up via an aftermarket thing that plugged into its port and had a storage subroutine ...had a snap on camera ...it was ahead of the curve for its time ...yet, I simultaneously had an IPAQ 3635 (same as 3650) which had windowsCE ...made the palm look like a toy... meanwhile, my bro had a thing shaped like a PCMCIA card but had a screen and keys and functioned as a PIM when pulled out of the computer...very cool and ahead of its time too!! ...with that baby talk o/s, I am not at all surprised it is going under ...just amazed it lasted this long. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me
I mean in mac laptops. On Mar 16, 2010 10:24 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:05 PM, mike wrote: When do these new batteries get into laptops? Not for you PC boy! * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:05 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: When do these new batteries get into laptops? Is it only rumor that the newest MacBook Pro computers contain batteries that are not serviceable by the user? Steve Batteries have been nonreplaceable in iPods since 1st gen. We've replaced batteries in 3 iPods: two 20GB 4th gen, and one 60 GB 5th gen iPod. MacBook Air has replaceable nonreplaceable battery. Unibody MacBooks and MacBook Pros also have these batteries [since 2009]. How to open the MB/MBP to replace these batteries: - Apple manual [see chapter 3], http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/MacBook_Pro_13inch_Mid2009.pdf - ifixit.com teardown, http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook-Pro-13-Inch-Unibody/814/1 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me
I'm talking about the new tech batteries Tom mentioned. On Mar 16, 2010 11:42 AM, b_s-wilk b1sun...@yahoo.es wrote: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 9:05 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: When do these new batteries... Is it only rumor that the newest MacBook Pro computers contain batteries that are not serviceab... Batteries have been nonreplaceable in iPods since 1st gen. We've replaced batteries in 3 iPods: two 20GB 4th gen, and one 60 GB 5th gen iPod. MacBook Air has replaceable nonreplaceable battery. Unibody MacBooks and MacBook Pros also have these batteries [since 2009]. How to open the MB/MBP to replace these batteries: - Apple manual [see chapter 3], http://manuals.info.apple.com/en_US/MacBook_Pro_13inch_Mid2009.pdf - ifixit.com teardown, http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook-Pro-13-Inch-Unibody/814/1 * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me
I'm talking about the new tech batteries Tom mentioned. So am I. The unibody MacBooks and MacBook Pros have used the new tech batteries--much longer life, holds charge longer, no mercury--since the early 2009 versions. Most likely mfg. to put these in a PC? Your guess. MSI, Sony [but it will break], Toshiba, Lenovo... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me
At 10:02 PM 3/15/2010, b_s-wilk wrote: This is easy. The iPad is a giant iPod Touch. We can open up the Touch to change the battery. Why not the iPad? The biggest problem is finding a source for the right battery, instead of a cheap copy. The battery could cost $50 [the $5 one is worth 90% less], spudger is less than $5, and you save the rest by doing it yourself, just like any other computer repair. We'll have to see who has OEM batteries. That leaves you with $52 for a nice dinner and a bottle of wine. The $50 battery is making money on the blades. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 12:44 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: This is a non-issue. These batteries typically last longer that the useful life of the product. Quite possibly. What, may I ask, is the difference between the life of a product as opposed to the useful life of a product? Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Is Verizon giving up on building out FIOS?
At 9:39 AM -0400 3/16/10, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: The article states that the bean counters are waiting for government to pony up for further FIOS deployments. If you don't have it yet you may be out of luck. http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/So-Is-This-Where-Verizons-FiOS-Deployment-Ends-107342 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20100312/1855128547.shtml -- But in a comment to the TechDirt report, http://www.techdirt.com/article.php?sid=20100312/1855128547#c166 a Verizon spokesman said: by Bob Varettoni I am a spokesperson for Verizon. Just a few points: Verizon said it would spend $23 billion for FiOS deployment through the end of this year -- and we're meeting that commitment. That's about $22 billion and change more than any other company in America will have actually spent by the end of this year in bringing ultra-fast fiber-based broadband directly to homes. We have additional commitments to build out FiOS in certain jurisdictions beyond 2010 that we will also meet. Our focus now is on making our FiOS network available for sale -- and selling FiOS services! -- to all the homes we have passed (there's still additional work to be done after a home is passed -- to provide TV, for example, we need a local franchise). -- Roger Lovettsville, VA * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband
At 12:11 PM 3/16/2010, you wrote: That happens when traitors and terrorists who hate government get elected. I have been through several such cycles while living here in the Capitol. When people get elected who believe that government can make an important difference the results are quite different. I have seen it first hand. You are just feeding us blind ideology in the service of evil. No it happens whenever you get people who rule on ideology instead of reality. Totally bogus criticism. What happened in Haiti was on a totally different scale than what happened in New Orleans. Nobody ever imagined destruction on this scale. Aid could not be delivered overland. It was a foreign country, the US had to work through their government. It was an international effort, the US was one of many participants. Not bogus criticism. Leveled by some liberals grading the response. They finally got it right, but it had to go through layers and bureaucrats before it got handled. Why do preachers always take the side of the rich overlords? Why do they always preach about turning the other cheek and tell the oppressed that their lot in life is God's will? Why do they always give their blessings to unjust wars, traitors, and terrorists? Why are they never on the side of justice? Why do they tell Jesus to leave the room? Totally unfair criticism. I criticize both sides, as it is a flawed human system. All human systems will be flawed and will vacillate between one extreme and another. Your definition of a traitor does not a traitor make. Terrorists are terrorists they are on both sides, and are just as bad. And quite honestly I would lump you in on rich overlords! :-) Jesus is quite solidly in the room. Never left. just ignored because his message is not always welcome or wanted because it would trump everything. Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband
Steve if I read Zinn correctly he would say all governmental services are supposed to be that, for service. The problem is, once any thing becomes institutionalized it takes on a life of its own, and you soon must serve the institution, not the client. It is indeed sad. When you try to reorganize to start serving the client once more, many protest as you are changing a sacred system. My wife and I had a very volatile discussion last night as she thinks it is unfair that I serve a group that does not see my worth or pay me accordingly and expect me to do all the work. I told her that is how it is supposed to be, and that is what I signed on for. I did not become a minister to adjust my work level on a sliding scale according to what I get paid. They get it all and I do what they ask, as I am their servant. When we started calling them jobs instead of vocation we lost the concept of service. Stewart At 06:49 AM 3/16/2010, you wrote: If memory and my history books are correct this has been a problem for eons. Perhaps this is a problem for us, but not for them. After all, we are here to serve them, are we not, or did your history book try to convince you that it is really the other way around? Let's read a history book by historian Howard Zinn to see who really serves who. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband
Howard Zinn also favored using history as a tool for directing social values even at the expense of truth. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: Steve if I read Zinn correctly he would say all governmental services are supposed to be that, for service. The problem is, once any thing becomes institutionalized it takes on a life of its own, and you soon must serve the institution, not the client. It is indeed sad. When you try to reorganize to start serving the client once more, many protest as you are changing a sacred system. My wife and I had a very volatile discussion last night as she thinks it is unfair that I serve a group that does not see my worth or pay me accordingly and expect me to do all the work. I told her that is how it is supposed to be, and that is what I signed on for. I did not become a minister to adjust my work level on a sliding scale according to what I get paid. They get it all and I do what they ask, as I am their servant. When we started calling them jobs instead of vocation we lost the concept of service. Stewart At 06:49 AM 3/16/2010, you wrote: If memory and my history books are correct this has been a problem for eons. Perhaps this is a problem for us, but not for them. After all, we are here to serve them, are we not, or did your history book try to convince you that it is really the other way around? Let's read a history book by historian Howard Zinn to see who really serves who. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband
He would not have been the first nor only one. It is sad, but with the flaw of human nature our selfish nature usually gets in the way. Stewart At 06:04 PM 3/16/2010, you wrote: Howard Zinn also favored using history as a tool for directing social values even at the expense of truth. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband
Correct...I suppose we should admire him for his honesty in telling everyone he'll lie to get his ends. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: He would not have been the first nor only one. It is sad, but with the flaw of human nature our selfish nature usually gets in the way. Stewart At 06:04 PM 3/16/2010, you wrote: Howard Zinn also favored using history as a tool for directing social values even at the expense of truth. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Wing Nuts Oppose Better Broadband
Everyone likes to interpret data to their advantage. This list has been full of it over the years. Data is simply data. Remember the old saying statistics lie? Well they do not really lie they just say what your research wanted it to say. I live in Alabama (well we make the news a lot lately) and there is a Governors race plus a few other choice races in the state this year. I occasionally get phone calls asking me to be part of a poll. (I am not sure how I got on the list, but I am.) I can tell who has sponsored the poll or what the poll is looking for in the way of data real fast. Just by the way the questions are asked, and how the answers are phrased or limited. If it is not a live person, I end up hanging up often or screwing with the poll as they will not let me give a true answer. If it is a live person, I politely insist that my answer is neither., or non of the above very often when my choice is limited to yes or no, or a or b. Data does not lie, it is the way it is obtained or used that lies. Stewart At 06:18 PM 3/16/2010, you wrote: Correct...I suppose we should admire him for his honesty in telling everyone he'll lie to get his ends. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: He would not have been the first nor only one. It is sad, but with the flaw of human nature our selfish nature usually gets in the way. Stewart Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] PDF creation application
I previously wrote the wrong latest version for WordPerfect. The latest version is X4, not X3. I have both X4 X3 as well as many earlier versions for WP. The last several versions of WP has PDF conversion built-in, but X4 has the most extensive capability. For example, WP X4 can create editable PDF files and edit *any* PDF file created by any other application. The size quality of the PDF file creation can be chosen in the latest version, X4. I have MS Word also, but I much prefer WP because it is less error prone. Even if the capability of Word and WP were the same (they are not by a long shot) except for the Reveal Codes capability in WP, that alone would persuade me to choose WP instead of Word. As a rule, I open Word documents in WordPerfect and edit there. These as well as those that I create from scratch in WP can be saved in Word format when need be. Much easier faster to do it this way. So I think your wife is a wise woman -- whatever version of WP that she has is a good choice. BTW, I have PDF995 also and it is good. But it can't do all the things that WP PDF can do. Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: I shoulda mentioned that she's firmly stuck in the 1980's and uses WordPerfect. She's talking about moving to Word but _really_ doesn't want to. She uses WP for everything including file management. I wrote in previous message: I use WordPerfect also. She ought to upgrade to the latest version, X3. It has an excellent PDF creator built in. WP has had this capability for the last several versions, but the X3 version is most complete. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] PDF creation application
At 07:30 PM 3/15/2010, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: I shoulda mentioned that she's firmly stuck in the 1980's and uses WordPerfect. She's talking about moving to Word but _really_ doesn't want to. She uses WP for everything including file management. WordPerfect is a far superior product to Word. WordPerfect was very late migrating to Windows and had very poor marketing. Thus MS already had the market share. And Word is good enough for 99% of the people, so they didn't consider trying something new. /RANT A good virtual PDF printer (puts print to PDF as an additional printer on the print menu) is CutePDF Writer. Freeware. http://www.cutepdf.com/products/cutepdf/Writer.asp The most recent version (3.xx) tries very hard to put ask.com as your default search engine and do other stuff. You gotta keep saying no persistently during the installation. See if you can download version 2.28 (2.xx). However, the one that I have is from back when it was issued. They may have added the annoyware to it since. Works like a charm once installed. You have to also download ghostwriter from the same web page. It's the actual .pdf file renderer. GPL licensed. Fred Holmes * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] PDF creation application
Later versions of WordPerfect have a print-to-PDF function built into it. I'm not sure which version that started with. It's certainly true of the most recent version. Fred Holmes At 07:32 PM 3/15/2010, Wayne Dernoncourt wrote: Valerie insists on a PC with WordPerfect. Me, I use a Mac that includes PDF creation as a service. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me
It's already here: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/battery/ The battery improvements come in part from: using lithium polymer instead of lithium ion or nickel-cadmium, better chemical composition, and making the battery smart with a chip that controls how individual cells are discharged and charged, which greatly extends the battery's useful life. The last big factor is that by not having the battery in a protective case with a battery change door and mechanism, etc., you can put in a lot more battery for a given weight/space. I know other ebook and computer manufacturers are moving to Li-poly, they may also do adaptive charging/discharging as well, but as long as they are wedded to making the battery removable they will lose to Apple on either capacity or weight. My son has a newer MacBook Pro with the built-in battery. I have a slightly older MacBook Pro with a user-replaceable battery. His laptop outlasts mine by quite a bit. If the advertised 7-hour battery life is an exaggeration, it isn't by very much. From:mike xha...@gmail.com Subject: Re: noPad4me I mean in mac laptops. On Mar 16, 2010 10:24 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:05 PM, mike wrote: When do these new batteries get into laptops? Not for you PC boy! * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me
I spent $52 today on weekly food shopping, after $18 in coupons. My point is that the savings from changing the battery yourself vs. paying much more to have the shop do the same thing is like finding free money. You can do weekly shopping with it or you can splurge or you can save/invest it. I used to keep track of refund/coupon savings on a calendar when it was around $3000 a year. We save a lot more by doing simple tech jobs ourselves. After fixing the hardware yourself, you might need the drink. You go to good restaurants. Battery prices will be all over the place. Price is not always an indicator of quality, manufacturer is. Much like designer clothes. Very often made in the same factory to the same specs and a similar shirt, but with two wildly varying price tags. That leaves you with $52 for a nice dinner and a bottle of wine. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] noPad4me
Fixing things is not my problem. Replaced and upgraded hard drives in many Laptops, and in Netbooks. (Upgraded memory in sons and is companions netbook, and swapped out the HD in one of them. pretty simple to work on really.) No drink needed. Drink celebrated of course. The smaller stuff gives me a few problems. (Steadiness of hand, and grip problem, not to mention must have glasses on and aimed just right.) I can eat dinner for a lot less. (usually do) I spend as little money on computer repairs as possible. That is why I build most of my desktop units. I know what I am putting in it. Stewart At 11:32 PM 3/16/2010, you wrote: I spent $52 today on weekly food shopping, after $18 in coupons. My point is that the savings from changing the battery yourself vs. paying much more to have the shop do the same thing is like finding free money. You can do weekly shopping with it or you can splurge or you can save/invest it. I used to keep track of refund/coupon savings on a calendar when it was around $3000 a year. We save a lot more by doing simple tech jobs ourselves. After fixing the hardware yourself, you might need the drink. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] Apple to charge $107 for iPad battery replacement EarthLink - Technology News
This is a non-issue. These batteries typically last longer that the useful life of the product. Quite possibly. What, may I ask, is the difference between the life of a product as opposed to the useful life of a product? Steve My Mac SE [1987] still works. It runs PageMaker 2, maybe FreeHand, Illustrator, MacDraw, MacWrite, a few games; has a 20 MB HD, 4 MB RAM. Still works, not useful. My mobile phone is smarter. All 6 of our old Macs work, but none earlier than G4s are useful on a regular basis. The Intel iMac [2007] runs Final Cut, Adobe/Macromedia suites, MS office, browsers, etc.--all at the same time. Has a 320 GB HD, 4 GB RAM. Very useful, but could use more memory. I expect it to be useful for another 3 or 4 years. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
