Re: [Cooker] pkgconfig not required by -devel
Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait Michael Scherer : i suggest the last solution, but, maybe someone see a problem ? Yes, coherency with other development tools. How many packages really requires autoconf/automake ? I guess less than 1%. However, autoconf/automake are rpm-build dependencies. Here we have more packages requiring what appears some new build tool, and we are gonna add it as an explicit require for each of them. This is plainly silly. If you're going to do it manually, like we are doing right now, *then* it's silly. If you're going to do it automatically, I have less issues with it. I think it's ellegant not to let rpm-build require all the build tools, otherwise rpm-build will become something like basesystem. Perhaps introducing circular dependencies, etc. Doing it with a find-requires script is fine. Stefan smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [Cooker] Initscripts: many services missing
Quel Qun wrote: As of tonight, many services are not started in runlevel 3 although they are listed as on by chkconfig. I had to start syslog, xinetd, network and xfs manually, and surely some others are missing. But, it does boot a lot faster, right? See, it's a new feature! :-) Since syslog is one of the missing in action, it is quite difficult to guess what is going on. initscripts-7.06-21mdk I confirm this. Also, some new directories have been created: /etc/rc0.d through /etc/rc6.d: $ ls /etc/rc?.d/ /etc/rc0.d/: S00killall@ S01halt@ /etc/rc1.d/: S00single@ /etc/rc2.d/: S99local@ /etc/rc3.d/: S99local@ /etc/rc4.d/: S99local@ /etc/rc5.d/: S99local@ /etc/rc6.d/: S00killall@ S01reboot@ regards, Stefan smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [Cooker] Initscripts: many services missing
Stefan van der Eijk wrote: Quel Qun wrote: As of tonight, many services are not started in runlevel 3 although they are listed as on by chkconfig. I had to start syslog, xinetd, network and xfs manually, and surely some others are missing. I see this as well... -randy
[Cooker] mplayer 0.96-6 bulidrequires libmp3lame-devel
however i cannot find such package, what about requiring liblame-devel? regards, L. -- Luca Berra -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Communication Media Services S.r.l. /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN XAGAINST HTML MAIL / \
Re: [Cooker] Initscripts: many services missing
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 00:38, Randy Welch wrote: Stefan van der Eijk wrote: Quel Qun wrote: As of tonight, many services are not started in runlevel 3 although they are listed as on by chkconfig. I had to start syslog, xinetd, network and xfs manually, and surely some others are missing. I see this as well... -randy me too Ivan
Re: [Cooker] Initscripts: many services missing
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 08:38, Randy Welch wrote: Stefan van der Eijk wrote: Quel Qun wrote: As of tonight, many services are not started in runlevel 3 although they are listed as on by chkconfig. I had to start syslog, xinetd, network and xfs manually, and surely some others are missing. I see this as well... It is not confined to runlevel 3, 5 is also incorrect. -- Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Cooker] MDK 9.1 bugs
hi, Just a few bugs to squash: - installer does not recognize the ATI Rage LT PRO, only a Mach64 chip. The lspci is: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage LT Pro AGP-133 ( rev dc) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: CLEVO/KAPOK Computer: Unknown device 8501 Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 10 Memory at d800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] I/O ports at 8000 [size=256] Memory at d900 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K] Expansion ROM at 000c [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [50] AGP version 1.0 Capabilities: [5c] Power Management version 1 - for USB pendrives would be nicer to have an USB pendrive icon on the desktop as opposed to a built-in SCSI harddisk icon. Currently it misleads users. - Alcatel and Sagem USB adsl adapters are listed. I wonder if it is compatible with the Telindus and likes (very frequent in Hungary and Germany)
Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select asks too many questions
Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait Liam Quin : urpmi now installs RPMs in batches - generally a good improvement. However, if I'm asked, say, package has bad signature, continue anyway? I might be asked that question 10 times. The actual problem comes from signature checking. That should be fixed first. Use --no-verify-rpm until it is fixed. Eric
[Cooker] Re: Re: how to activate acpi?
On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 23:57:22 +0200, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: read dmesg's output, especially the beginning. to me, your problem sounds like a blacklisted BIOS. doesnt look like backlisted, but I upgrading my BIOS sounds like a good idea to me. Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: ACPI: have wakeup address 0xc0001000 Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: IBM machine detected. Enabling interrupts during APM calls. Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: ACPI: RSDP (v002 IBM ) @ 0x000f6d20 Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: ACPI: XSDT (v001 IBMTP-1P0x1080 LTP 0x) @ 0x0ff6b501 Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: ACPI: FADT (v003 IBMTP-1P0x1080 IBM 0x0001) @ 0x0ff6b600 Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: ACPI: SSDT (v001 IBMTP-1P0x1080 MSFT 0x010e) @ 0x0ff6b7b4 Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: ACPI: ECDT (v001 IBMTP-1P0x1080 IBM 0x0001) @ 0x0ff74e89 Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: ACPI: TCPA (v001 IBMTP-1P0x1080 PTL 0x0001) @ 0x0ff74eda Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: ACPI: BOOT (v001 IBMTP-1P0x1080 LTP 0x0001) @ 0x0ff74fd8 Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: ACPI: DSDT (v001 IBMTP-1P0x1080 MSFT 0x010e) @ 0x Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: ide_setup: hdc=ide-scsi Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: Initializing CPU#0 Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: Memory: 255032k/261504k available (1482k kernel code, 6084k reserved, -1903k data, 152k init, 0k highmem, 0k BadRAM) Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: Dentry cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes) Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: Inode cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes) Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: Mount cache hash table entries: 512 (order: 0, 4096 bytes) Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes) Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: Intel machine check architecture supported. Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: Intel machine check reporting enabled on CPU#0. Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: CPU: After generic, caps: a7e9fbbf Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: CPU: Common caps: a7e9fbbf Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done. Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done. Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK. Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: ACPI: Subsystem revision 20030813 Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd936, last bus=5 Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: PCI: Using configuration type 1 Sep 5 14:07:16 localhost kernel: Looking for DSDT in initrd ... not found!6ACPI: Found ECDT
Re: [Cooker] Initscripts: many services missing
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 09:12, Dave Cotton wrote: On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 08:38, Randy Welch wrote: Stefan van der Eijk wrote: Quel Qun wrote: As of tonight, many services are not started in runlevel 3 although they are listed as on by chkconfig. I had to start syslog, xinetd, network and xfs manually, and surely some others are missing. I see this as well... It is not confined to runlevel 3, 5 is also incorrect The following links from /etc have been removed rc0.d - rc.d/rc0.d/ rc1.d - rc.d/rc1.d/ rc2.d - rc.d/rc2.d/ rc3.d - rc.d/rc3.d/ rc4.d - rc.d/rc4.d/ rc5.d - rc.d/rc5.d/ rc6.d - rc.d/rc6.d/ -- Dave Cotton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] pkgconfig not required by -devel
On Thursday 04 September 2003 00:32, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait Michael Scherer : i suggest the last solution, but, maybe someone see a problem ? Yes, coherency with other development tools. How many packages really requires autoconf/automake ? I guess less than 1%. However, autoconf/automake are rpm-build dependencies. Here we have more packages requiring what appears some new build tool, and we are gonna add it as an explicit require for each of them. This is plainly silly. this will affect maybe 10 packages, which is not too much. i guess that only 10 packages, because nobody see the problem until now. this 10 package will be used to : - build rpm, and it will use pkgconfig, because of autoconf, most of the time. - build from source, and it will use pkgconfig, for configure script, because library authors put pkgconfig in their macros. - develop a software, which means that people will have to figure what are the good argument for gcc, and this is where they will use pkgconfig. I guess that documentation will also say to use pkgconfig. but, of course, it can be used without it. autoconf/automake is only used when developping a application, and when we patch a configure script for rpm building. Patching a script to suit our needs is almost the same as developping a application. That's why packages should not requires autotools. Most of the time, people don't need it. pkgconfig is different, because, most of the time, people will need it for a proper use of the library ( -devel rpm of the library ). I do not say to add pkgconfig requires on each library, but only to the ones that have almost 90% chances of using it. -- Michal Scherer
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2003 02:48 schrieb David Baudens: Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2003 02:21 schrieb David Baudens: Why? To not have several terminal emulators in applications menu. Rxvt is always installed (used by MCC) and will be duplicated with other terminals. Thats good :) However, we need to ensure that kde-konsole is installed per default It is when you choose Console tools (or something like that, I don't have files to check here) during installation. I uploaded a new rpmsrate today (which probably needed to be enhanced, I need to do more tests to be sure). What i wanted say is that kde-konsole should be installed if kde-workstation is choosen. How am i supposed to urpmi without it ? ;) Using rpmdrake or using console (ctrlr-alt-f1)? Just my humble opinion Problem is that a terminal emulator is not needed for an office/multimedia/internet/ect. workstation. So, if people who install computer don't explictly say he want to use a terminal, there is no reason to install it. It is why Konsole is not installed when KDE is installed. Act as that seems to me reasonable
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Thursday 04 September 2003 00:58, Steffen Barszus wrote: What i wanted say is that kde-konsole should be installed if kde-workstation is choosen. How am i supposed to urpmi without it ? ;) Just my humble opinion Steffen Why, what is special about konsole
[Cooker] urpmi --auto-select just freezes
hi After upgrading urpmi and perl-URPM (why isn't there a version requirement between these two?) yesterday I now cant do urpmi --auto-select It just stands still at the prompt until I ^C out of it (I had it stading like this for 5 hours). I can see in the process list that it runs and that it in the beginning uses up alot of cputime. anyone that can confirm this?
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Thursday 04 September 2003 02:21, David Baudens wrote: Why? To not have several terminal emulators in applications menu. Rxvt is always installed (used by MCC) and will be duplicated with other terminals. I still don't understand why rxvt shouldn't have a menu entry. How else would i start rxvt
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Thursday 04 September 2003 12:39, David Baudens wrote: Problem is that a terminal emulator is not needed for an office/multimedia/internet/ect. workstation. So, if people who install computer don't explictly say he want to use a terminal, there is no reason to install it. It is why Konsole is not installed when KDE is installed. Act as that seems to me reasonable Can't act that good. I know the average windows user doesn't use his cmd ever but still it feels wrong to me not to have a terminal
Re: [Cooker] Broken docbook tools (openjade)
Le mar 02/09/2003 à 23:29, Michal Bukovjan a écrit : Camille Bégnis wrote: Fixed in openjade-1.3.2-8mdk Could you upload that? I still get openjade-1.3.2-8mdk on Cooker. This is now done, don't know why it did not appear before. Camille. Thanks, Michal Camille. Le mer 20/08/2003 à 22:54, Michal Bukovjan a écrit : Hi, when trying to generate a HTML document from a Docbook document using DSSSL transformation, on a current Cooker as of today, only a lot of garbage comes out: -- docbook2html -o html dizertacni_prace.xml Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/xml-docbook-4.1.2.cat Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.13/docbook-utils.dsl#html Working on: /home/michal/dizertace/dizertacni_prace.xml jade:E: cannot open /usr/share/sgml/xml.dcl (No such file or directory) jade:/home/michal/dizertace/dizertacni_prace.xml:6:13:E: character _ invalid: only parameter literal, CDATA, ENDTAG, MD, MS, PI, PUBLIC, SDATA, STARTTAG, SYSTEM and parameter separators allowed jade:URLhttp://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.0/docbookx.dtd:74:17:E: X20AC is not a function name [..host of other errors deleted...] -- This worked few days ago, perhaps openjade needs fixing? Thanks, Michal
Re: [Cooker] urpmi: please remove option --update
Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A media is marked update only if the user declares it using --update when adding this media through urpmi.addmedia. Or is it some way for a media to declare itself as update ? Using rpmdrake, there is a check box to declare media as update (if my memory has no real problem). You can add update flag by hand in urpmi.cfg (documented in man page, now ;-)) François.
Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select asks too many questions
Liam Quin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like it to prompt yes/always/No/reject all I can't do that for 9.2, but I can make yes act as always and no act as reject all. It could be fixed more cleanly after 9.2 François.
Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select just freezes
Kim Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hi After upgrading urpmi and perl-URPM (why isn't there a version requirement between these two?) yesterday I now cant do urpmi --auto-select It just stands still at the prompt until I ^C out of it (I had it stading like this for 5 hours). I can see in the process list that it runs and that it in the beginning uses up alot of cputime. anyone that can confirm this? Send me bug report using urpmi --bug without actually doing an --auto-select, this will help me tesing it and fixes it. François.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why? To not have several terminal emulators in applications menu. Rxvt is always installed (used by MCC) and will be duplicated with other terminals. Thats good :) However, we need to ensure that kde-konsole is installed per default then, as on my testinstall of RC1 rxvt was the only terminal application installed. I guess something for Laurent ;) dadou, update rpmsrate so that kdebase-konsole get installed too
[Cooker] Xircom's PCMCIA Ethernet adaptor
The is a call for votes on a Bugzilla bug that I opened a long time ago -- on 28 February. I have two laptops, each with Xircom Ethernet adaptors. Since the 9.1 (yes, nine-point-one) beta cycle, DrakConnect has been totally unable to work with this card. However, things worked just fine in 9.0. The weird thing is, I can configure it during the initial install process -- but ONLY then. This is still the case with 9.2 RC1. The whole story (and my ongoing attempts to get any sort of reply to it) are at: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2529 Anyone else who has this problem, please vote for the bug or add your own comments. Thank you... John
Re: [Cooker] mplayer 0.96-6 bulidrequires libmp3lame-devel
Ainsi parlait Luca Berra : however i cannot find such package, what about requiring liblame-devel? I'm the one to blame here, i changed the name of this package. However, liblame-devel still provides libmp3lame-devel. -- The more complex the idea or technology, the more simple- minded the opposition -- Murphy's In Laws n°16
Re: [Cooker] mplayer 0.96-6 bulidrequires libmp3lame-devel
Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2003, 11:46:42 Uhr MET, schrieb Guillaume Rousse: Ainsi parlait Luca Berra : however i cannot find such package, what about requiring liblame-devel? I'm the one to blame here, i changed the name of this package. However, liblame-devel still provides libmp3lame-devel. No, it doesn't: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9.2 goetz]$ rpm -qp --provides /home/root/mandrake/mdk/plf/cooker/i586/liblame0-devel-3.93.1-4plf.i586.rpm lame-devel = 3.93.1-4plf liblame-devel = 3.93.1-4plf libmp3lame0-devel devel(libmp3lame) liblame0-devel = 3.93.1-4plf -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select asks too many questions
François Pons wrote: Liam Quin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like it to prompt yes/always/No/reject all I can't do that for 9.2, but I can make yes act as always and no act as reject all. It could be fixed more cleanly after 9.2 Call me overcautious, but I'd prefer not to have that kind of fix. I think that the --no-verify-rpm switch would be a better workaround because it's explicit. The implied always only for urpmi (and not for other utilities) would be confusing, especially if users have to relearn the effect of yes and no in the next release. - John
[Cooker] Re: Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
andre wrote: On Thursday 04 September 2003 02:21, David Baudens wrote: Why? To not have several terminal emulators in applications menu. Rxvt is always installed (used by MCC) and will be duplicated with other terminals. I still don't understand why rxvt shouldn't have a menu entry. How else would i start rxvt Exactly. Especially considering I use khotkeys to start Rxvt, and that requires it have a menu entry.
Re: [Cooker] flash player
Le mer 03/09/2003 à 10:33, Guillaume Rousse a écrit : Ainsi parlait FACORAT Fabrice : fine and is Adobe will follow your guideline ? 1°/ I think that Adobe/Real rpm will consider that they will support netscape and put their plugins in /usr/lib/netscape/plugins. What you say is only usefull for mdk own package. But you need to follow a little bit official package policies. official (meaning vendors package) plainly sucks. You should never have to install a non-mdk package on a mdk system. There is a commercial/club package for flash, right ? me newcomer from windows, me used to dl flash/real plugin form adobe/Real as explain by practically all using flash/Real, me just grab rpm from adobe/real and install it, me don't want to join club or don't have enough money to join club. 2°/ you %trigger may be fine, but if I update flash/real to a new shiny version via rpm and the name of the file change ? ... I think that this could lead to several potentials pb ... %trigger sucks too. It's up to the flash player to make itself work, not to another one. and to mozilla to look at it where most of the time flash plugin is installed.
Re: [Cooker] drakxtools and printer troubles
Paul Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When I start rpmdrake from the console, I get this error on clicking the tree:
Can't locate object method iter_has_child via package Gtk2::TreeIter at
/usr/lib/libDrakX/ugtk2.pm line 1309
Don't see the same problem here :/. Looks like a broken perl-Gtk2
but can't guess what would have broken it :/. Could you apply the
following patch to ugtk2.pm and send me what's printed on the
console, please? It might help us understand what's going on..
thanks!
--- ugtk2.pm2003-09-01 13:32:53.0 +0200
+++ /tmp/ugtk2.pm 2003-09-04 12:34:11.0 +0200
@@ -1306,6 +1306,7 @@
$model $iter or return;
Glib::Source-remove($idle) if $idle;
+print model$model iter$iter\n;
if (!$model-iter_has_child($iter)) {
$curr = $model-get($iter, 0);
$idle = Glib::Timeout-add(100, $common-{display_info});
--
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
[Cooker] what upgrade method is supported and _tested_ ?
before releasing mdk 9.2 i have one principial question: what method of upgrade are precise tested? what method is fully supported and works well? (urpmi, cd upgrade, handy rpm -Uvh, other?) is cd upgrade method fully tested with qa team? is this method fully tested and supported with 9.1, 9.0, 8.2? especially focus on 8.2, because this version ends support from mandrake at 30.sep, then many users can make _painless_ upgrade from this version to 9.2. btw. i can't find any related documentation about upgrade procedure at mandrakelinux.com web site (maybe my fault..) -- member of Advanced InternetWorks group - http://www.ainetworks.sk professional home page - http://tibor.pittich.sk personal home page - http://c0re.phuture.sk pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] urpmi: please remove option --update
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (François Pons) writes: Guillaume Rousse [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A media is marked update only if the user declares it using --update when adding this media through urpmi.addmedia. Or is it some way for a media to declare itself as update ? Using rpmdrake, there is a check box to declare media as update (if my memory has no real problem). Then it has :). A medium is marked 'update' when configuring a 'security updates' medium, the flag is not accessible to the users as itself. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Expert install from isoliunx ?
Frank Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: That's how I'm used to doing it from floppy image boots, but I tried twice and couldn't find anyplace in the isolinux sequence which mentioned the possibility of hitting F1. Where do I do that ? In the bootloader stage. Very first graphical image of mandrake. When you computer boots. I've tried leaning on F1 at every possible place, with no effect. Can I put something in the LILO entry for booting isolinux ? Works-for-me(tm) :/. Sorry.. I can see my test computer boot, in text-mode Boot from ATAPI CD-ROM, very quickly ISOLINUX something.. and then graphically Press F1 for more options, I press F1, it turns to text-mode and I can type more options from there. Pretty standard.. I don't get what's going on with your computer. Maybe usb keyboard with failing bios emulation that doesn't let isolinux getting the F1 key? Do you see the same message as described above? Can you usually type anything in a lilo boot? -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select asks too many questions
Paul Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can add the missing keys yourself with two commands: gpg -a --export key mykey.gpg (where key is the key you want to add) rpm --import mykey.gpg Once you have the keys added, you can use urpmi --auto-select --auto These information are in the wiki: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/MandrakeLinuxFAQ#How_to_deal_with_digital_signatu -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Expert install from isoliunx ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank Griffin wrote: Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: That's how I'm used to doing it from floppy image boots, but I tried twice and couldn't find anyplace in the isolinux sequence which mentioned the possibility of hitting F1. Where do I do that ? In the bootloader stage. Very first graphical image of mandrake. When you computer boots. I've tried leaning on F1 at every possible place, with no effect. Can I put something in the LILO entry for booting isolinux ? Hmmm, you should have given us this info before ... since you can't use both isolinux and lilo (they are both bootloaders, isolinux is for booting from CDs), I assume you are bootstrapping your install from lilo? If so, you need to provide the parameters isolinux would normally provide to the kernel (look in the syslinux.cfg) via the append line of your lilo.conf, or you need to provide them on the lilo command line. So, at the lilo prompt, you can type: lilo: cooker expert (assuming cooker is the name of your installation image, and lilo: is the lilo prompt. For more information on this, see the drakx-autoinstall-doc Of course, it may be worthwhile documenting this stuff in the CookerHowTo on the wiki. Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD4DBQE/VxvSrJK6UGDSBKcRAnESAKC5kD1Isefqz7bUDZVM0UB70G9eiQCY2YEr 94paRuzmzX9ga+pri7TzCw== =hWGu -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select asks too many questions
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Liam Quin wrote: On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:32:00AM +1200, Paul Dorman wrote: You can add the missing keys yourself with two commands: gpg -a --export key mykey.gpg (where key is the key you want to add) rpm --import mykey.gpg Yes. Actually urpmi could usefully offer to do that automatically, I suppose. AFAIK recent urpmi does ... But the issue I was trying to raise is that urpmi is too interactive - there aer other examples of messages. I run this (or similar, a bit of error checking etc) in cron: urpmi.update -a;urpmi --auto-select --auto --keep Doesn't ask any questions (but occasionally doesn't upgrade libgnomevfs or something like that ;-)). However, some solution for contrib is still needed, either a nice gui tool to configure the source to not require GPG sigs, or to have a solution for package signing in contrib (maybe a contrib-specific key?). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/VxznrJK6UGDSBKcRAuxaAJ9ZQjHSZxDvUuqhCO+wgOShHvLrZgCgzSjk FLCdLJp4lGyBDrtqZ4Fqz2U= =N42x -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select asks too many questions
Liam Quin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 11:32:00AM +1200, Paul Dorman wrote: You can add the missing keys yourself with two commands: gpg -a --export key mykey.gpg (where key is the key you want to add) rpm --import mykey.gpg Yes. Actually urpmi could usefully offer to do that automatically, I suppose. Done now. Urpmi downloads and install pubkeys per medium. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Error: file not found: ...Mandrake/base/mdkinst_stage2.bz2
Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: e.g., on uni_bayreuth.de, I put uni_bayreuth.de for server, and pub/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586 for Mandrake Linux Directory. /pub/linux/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586 we'd need to have the logs of the server to know what files are getted with your command. to me, it should work, but obviously it doesn't. I don't know if which directory it's defaultly logged, it should be /. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
David Baudens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Problem is that a terminal emulator is not needed for an office/multimedia/internet/ect. workstation. So, if people who install computer don't explictly say he want to use a terminal, there is no reason to install it. It is why Konsole is not installed when KDE is installed. Act as that seems to me reasonable I humbly think that's not good. Just as a side note, in Windows XP, only solution to do a real check of the disk is to open a Command Prompt (that's how it's called, and it's installed by default) and to use chkdsk from there. Just to show that even users of XP (the easy OS) need sometimes to do things in Command Prompt - and we even encourage them to do a chkdsk from there before installing Mandrake. Now, there is another reason, maybe even more important: Linux is, as Windows, still too complicated for most users, who tend to ask their friends for support when they have a request. And these friends will surely often ask them to open a console or a terminal and launch whatever command from there. Hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1 is more complicated (and won't work if they want to launch an XFree app). Thus, a terminal program should be installed and easily accessible from the Menu, in my humble opinion (even if one is accessible from MCC, because if the friend is a Debian fan he won't know that). -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
September 4, 2003 02:46 am, andre wrote: On Thursday 04 September 2003 12:39, David Baudens wrote: Problem is that a terminal emulator is not needed for an office/multimedia/internet/ect. workstation. So, if people who install computer don't explictly say he want to use a terminal, there is no reason to install it. It is why Konsole is not installed when KDE is installed. Act as that seems to me reasonable Can't act that good. I know the average windows user doesn't use his cmd ever but still it feels wrong to me not to have a terminal I can get along without the konsole until I get around to installing it. There are other functional replacements that sit in the Terminal section of the menu. But I did select console tools at install, the konsole terminal emulator wasn't part of that. Nor is there a super user mode file manager in the KDE menu any more. At first glance (until the second (?) or third (?)) update there were a lot of 'bells'n'whistles' that I've become accustomed to using that aren't there. I think. Oh well. I'll get over it eventually. Having to fight to get back to the desktop; (initscripts based boobie trap maybe) and stopping dead at a prompt dead zone that said no more services in this runlevel to terminate during a reboot (ditto) was a bit of a weird one though. As is the visible replaying of the Reiser filesystem journals on a normal screen (text) every boot when I thought I had set graphic boot and silent splash in Grub. I also see from my own sig that I forgot to boot the updated kernel this last time too. H...I think I'll let it run for a while. ;) I don't know if any of it was due to bugs or just the normal (l)user abuse. Me I mean. At least I made it back and I ain't suffering tester withdrawal pangs any longer. g I'm liking what Ive seen so far from 9.2 (Canicule?). Regards; Charlie -- Edmonton,AB,Canada User 244963 at http://counter.li.org Cooker on kernel 2.4.22-1mdk 05:18:04 up 6:32, 1 user, load average: 0.61, 0.23, 0.13 She's learned to say things with her eyes that others waste time putting into words.
[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Wednesday 03 September 2003 22:31, David Baudens wrote: -=-=-=- David Baudens [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.7.10-3mdk - Remove menu entry for rxvt package (but keep it for CJK package) I mind it a little bit that you remove rxvt from menu, but removing the icon is something i really mind. please put it back
[Cooker] [PROPOSAL] Post Halloween like status page
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake92 One of the problem with cooker is that sometimes we don't know the status for many things. I propose to update this page and show regression and improvement from previous releases known bugs and new bugs. It will not be complete as qa.mandrakesoft.com but it will be a good start just to have a quick idea. Unless if it's about major apps ( OpenOffice, Samba, OpenLDAP, MYSQL/PostgreSQL, Apache, KDE, Gnome, Postfix, NFS, NIS ), apps should not appear. It's easy to perform a query with bugzilla. For example concerning the status of following things. I select some from errata, I know the status as I dig in bugzilla to see the status but I think that this should be explicitly show. I select some from forum where some users have some common problem just after the base install and others from discussion in cooker ML : - Using a loopback root filesystem, / is not mounted after a fresh install - USB coldplug ( I had problems with an USB printer not correctly initialise during boot if it was plug. Need to switch it off, unplug/plug, ... ) - RandR support - Software suspend ( known issues, requires, ... ) - winmodem support ( I know that there are some opensource drivers, have they been include ? which chip is supported ? ... ) - Strange type read error after formatting partitions on AMD-K6 systems - Install hangs on systems with 1GB or more of memory - Installation is extremely slow - Special XFree86 keys do not work when using a non-latin keyboard layout - Unable to log back into KDE when screen is locked - Raid on / fails after boot - Mouse goes crazy when selecting a PS2 wheel mouse - X sometimes hangs after a period of inactivity - boot problem with Promise based IDE controllers - nForce2 UDMA/133 reporting - Adaptec SCSI card support ( mostly pb with aic79xx ) - ACL support in XFS filesystem - wireless/wifi support Note : a new entry should be add in hardware compatibility list for wifi hardware. I plan to set a wifi network but I don't know the status of the compatibility with mdk - SATA support - USB Sagem800 installation status ( I see several posts on forum reporting pb with connection/modem initialisation ) http://forum.hardware.fr/forum2.php3?post=27420cat=11config=interface=cache=sondage=owntopic=p=1trash=subcat= - Alcatel Speedtouch status - ATI Radeon status ( which cards are not supported ) - Nvidia status ( which card are not supported, are they issues with nvidia drivers installation/compilation ? ) - FAT32 windows partition normal user write access ( for boot mount partition so user is useless ) http://forum.hardware.fr/forum2.php3?post=27845cat=11config=interface=cache=cachesondage=owntopic=p=3trash=subcat= - integrated AC97 sound card support ( see several post for pb with some i810 sound card with no sound even if it was detect and configure by harddrake ) : http://forum.hardware.fr/forum2.php3?post=27764cat=11config=interface=cache=cachesondage=owntopic=p=3trash=subcat= i810_audio : Intel Corporation|ICH4 845G/GL Chipset AC'97 Audio Controller - Mozilla localisation ( Fr localisation when system is installed with FR ) - LDAP auth - ALSA status ( seems to have some regressions recently ) - DVB support ( issues, working hardware, installation tips ) Note : need to add an entry to hardware compatibility list for DVB card if support will be add - drakxtools status ( drakconnect, DrakX, rpmdrake, XFdrake, draksplash ) - OpenOffice.org 1.1 status ( I know it will be for RC2, but are there problem ? are we goind to faces difficulties ? ) - NFS support ( stable, issues, ... ) - Reiserfs ( issues ? with lilo ? ) - Opengroupware status ( issues, installation/configuration tips ) Please feel free to add entries, but I'd rather see this on wiki ...
Re: [Cooker] 9 bugs not reported for mdk 9.2rc1
Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: camille: i spam you too since that information may be useful for our doc too (but sadly not using proper english and maybe too technical and definitively too late for mdk9.2 :-( till: can you add a section about adding support for a new printer ? C) the resolution picked by Xdrak is 1044 X 768 but it appears as 1280 x 1044 even if tried to change the resolution and restarting X in still wrong and don't want to be changed i have ATI radeon 7500 mobility with 64mb and pentium 4 2.0ghz Thierry, don't you want to add a wiki topic How to get your hardware recognised in Mandrake (or a shorter one ;-)) which includes the info you post when people ask things like this? as i'm not a wiki guru, i'll just offer the following piece of chapter and let someone integrate in the cooker howto (i don't want to fsck up the current organization): (to be further completed) * How to get your hardware recognised or better configured in Mandrake ** Monitors monitors belongs in two categories: - those who are properly detected trough ddc probing (so called plug 'n play). - those who are not. note that proper ddc probing support needs both monitor *and* graphic cart support in hardware. for the laters, we can reference them by adding proper lines to /usr/share/ldetect-lst/MonitorsDB. format is VendorName; ModelName; EISA_ID; HorizSync_Range; VertRefresh_Range; dpms_support? such as Hewlett-Packard; A4575A 19inch Display; 0; 30-107; 50-160; 1 you can get your monitor's EISA ID by running the following command: ddcxinfos | fgrep -i eisa you can get the proper horizontal and vertical frequencie ranges from your monitor manual. this manual will also tell you if your monitor support power saving (the dpms flag). if you post a mail with the right line[1] to add to the monitors db on the cooker mailling list with subject [hardware] XYZ monitor, we can add support for your monitor. [1] that is with the proper frequencie ranges (and the EISA ID if possible) note that the not supporting ddc probing monitors belongs to two categories: - those who have an eisa id - those who have not. the formers will be automatically preselected in the monitors list, the laters won't be (one will have to manually select the right monitor). ** Sound Cards if your sound card is not working smoothly under mandrake linux, follow the steps described in the troubleshooting window in draksound, that is: classic bug sound tester (we really should morph the trouble shooting window in a solve sound problem tool merged with sndconfig...): *** lspcidrake -v | fgrep AUDIO will tell you which driver your pci card use by default (and if your card is detected) if your card is an usb one, just type lspcidrake -v. if there's no driver, go look at the pci devices section in order to fix the problem. *** grep sound-slot /etc/modules.conf will tell you what driver it currently uses *** /sbin/lsmod will enable you to check if its module (driver) is loaded or not *** /sbin/chkconfig --list sound and /sbin/chkconfig --list alsa will tell you if sound and alsa services're configured to be run on initlevel 3 *** aumix -q will tell you if the sound volume is muted or not *** /sbin/fuser -v /dev/dsp will tell which program uses the sound card (thus forbiding other programs to use it [unless your card support hardware mixing]). ** PCI devices if your pci device is not properly detected, post the lspcidrake -v output to the cooker mailling list with the subject [hardware] XYZ device so that we know its ids. if you know the module that it should uses, post it too. if you want its support to be integrated faster in mdk, patch the /usr/share/ldetect-lst/pcitable file: add a line or fix the existing line regarding your device. format is «vendor_id device_id module Vendor_name|device_name». fields are separated by a single tab character. ids are in hexadecimal formats (like those given by lspcidrake -v). eg: 0x10de 0x006a snd-intel8x0 Nvidia Corporation|nForce2 Audio Codec Interface if several devices share the same vendor device ids, then you may add the vendor device sub ids: «vendor_id device_id vendor_subid device_subid module Vendor_name|device_name». if after discussion it appears that no support is availlable, ask the vendor to support linux. ** USB devices these pets should be automagically detected by hotplug (which should also. hotplug rely on usb device drivers from the kernel to export the devices' ids or classes they handle through modules.usbmap in /lib/modules/kernel_version if not, 3 cases may happen: - this failled because the driver does not properly exports its ids but do know the device. = alter the usbtable like explained in the PCI devices section - the device has no proper ids (ie 0x0:0x0) = no proper solution ? - the device needs some workaround to be set up by the driver (eg: some audio or
[Cooker] konsole without kdebase-konsole
How can i still have konsole when i de-install kdebase-konsole?
[Cooker] [Bug 4837] [apache] Can't start because of mod_rewrite
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4837 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-04-09 08:15 --- Fixed in -11mdk -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: # rpm -qa | grep apache apache-1.3.27-10mdk apache2-modules-2.0.47-4mdk apache2-common-2.0.47-4mdk apache-modules-1.3.27-10mdk apache-conf-2.0.47-2mdk apache-mod_perl-1.3.27_1.28-12mdk apache2-2.0.47-4mdk apache2-mod_perl-2.0.47_1.99_09-3mdk # service httpd start Starting httpd: Syntax error on line 42 of /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf: Cannot load /etc/httpd/modules/mod_rewrite.so into server: /etc/httpd/modules/mod_rewrite.so: undefined symbol: __db_ndbm_open [FAILED] 0 If I perfom apache1 config, and commented all string about mod_rewrite, apache1 starting well.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Thursday 04 September 2003 13:30, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: David Baudens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Problem is that a terminal emulator is not needed for an office/multimedia/internet/ect. workstation. So, if people who install computer don't explictly say he want to use a terminal, there is no reason to install it. It is why Konsole is not installed when KDE is installed. Act as that seems to me reasonable I humbly think that's not good. Just as a side note, in Windows XP, only solution to do a real check of the disk is to open a Command Prompt (that's how it's called, and it's installed by default) and to use chkdsk from there. Just to show that even users of XP (the easy OS) need sometimes to do things in Command Prompt - and we even encourage them to do a chkdsk from there before installing Mandrake. Now, there is another reason, maybe even more important: Linux is, as Windows, still too complicated for most users, who tend to ask their friends for support when they have a request. And these friends will surely often ask them to open a console or a terminal and launch whatever command from there. Hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1 is more complicated (and won't work if they want to launch an XFree app). Thus, a terminal program should be installed and easily accessible from the Menu, in my humble opinion (even if one is accessible from MCC, because if the friend is a Debian fan he won't know that). ? I don't understand why people want always install a terminal. Most of users don't need it. If you need one, simply choose Consoles tools category when you can choose which packages should be installed. And if you need one after installation, simply launch rpmdrake and install a terminal. I can understand that most of people using Cooker need a terminal. But you also need to understand that we don't develop a product only for Cooker users. Most of our users simply don't need a terminal. -- David Baudens MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Thursday 04 September 2003 11:26, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Steffen Barszus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why? To not have several terminal emulators in applications menu. Rxvt is always installed (used by MCC) and will be duplicated with other terminals. Thats good :) However, we need to ensure that kde-konsole is installed per default then, as on my testinstall of RC1 rxvt was the only terminal application installed. I guess something for Laurent ;) dadou, update rpmsrate so that kdebase-konsole get installed too It was commited. -- David Baudens MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
[Cooker] localisation files for webapps
Several web applications, including all horde suite and mailman, include localisation files under their own directory in /var/www/html. Is there a way to use %find_lang macro so as to look for files elsewhere as under /usr/share/locale ? For my own culture, what's the difference between .mo files included under 'locale' directory, and .po files included under 'po' directory ? -- Why is it that when you're driving and looking for an address, you turn down the volume on the radio? -- Why Why Why n°42
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 14:09:00 +0200, David Baudens wrote: On Thursday 04 September 2003 13:30, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: David Baudens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Problem is that a terminal emulator is not needed for an office/multimedia/internet/ect. workstation. So, if people who install computer don't explictly say he want to use a terminal, there is no reason to install it. It is why Konsole is not installed when KDE is installed. Act as that seems to me reasonable I humbly think that's not good. Just as a side note, in Windows XP, only solution to do a real check of the disk is to open a Command Prompt (that's how it's called, and it's installed by default) and to use chkdsk from there. Just to show that even users of XP (the easy OS) need sometimes to do things in Command Prompt - and we even encourage them to do a chkdsk from there before installing Mandrake. Now, there is another reason, maybe even more important: Linux is, as Windows, still too complicated for most users, who tend to ask their friends for support when they have a request. And these friends will surely often ask them to open a console or a terminal and launch whatever command from there. Hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1 is more complicated (and won't work if they want to launch an XFree app). Thus, a terminal program should be installed and easily accessible from the Menu, in my humble opinion (even if one is accessible from MCC, because if the friend is a Debian fan he won't know that). ? I don't understand why people want always install a terminal. Most of users don't need it. If you need one, simply choose Consoles tools category when you can choose which packages should be installed. And if you need one after installation, simply launch rpmdrake and install a terminal. I can understand that most of people using Cooker need a terminal. But you also need to understand that we don't develop a product only for Cooker users. Most of our users simply don't need a terminal. Then we should move Terminal menu entry from main menu to a subsection (Applications is probably the best choice). Moreover, for people not using GNOME/KDE default install (ie without gnome-terminal/konsole installed), rxvt won't appear in menu, even if it is available.. I think it is wrong, since our menu used to display all available graphical applications installed on the system.. -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] konsole without kdebase-konsole
Le Thursday 04 September 2003 13:34, andre a écrit : How can i still have konsole when i de-install kdebase-konsole? Strange your question :) Konsole is into this package so if you removed it, konsole will remove it's normal. Regards.
Re: [Cooker] what upgrade method is supported and _tested_ ?
Tibor Pittich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: before releasing mdk 9.2 i have one principial question: what method of upgrade are precise tested? what method is fully supported and works well? (urpmi, cd upgrade, handy rpm -Uvh, other?) is cd upgrade method fully tested with qa team? is this method fully tested and supported with 9.1, 9.0, 8.2? especially focus on 8.2, because this version ends support from mandrake at 30.sep, then many users can make _painless_ upgrade from this version to 9.2. btw. i can't find any related documentation about upgrade procedure at mandrakelinux.com web site (maybe my fault..) I will try to make an urpmi update for a lot of distribution, including current urpmi and current perl-URPM, compiled for their respective targets (at least 9.0 and 9.1, I will try to add 8.2). Eventually, security updates will be done to add the support so that urpmi could more easily used to upgrade the system (normally I will try to add them in unsupported first). Anyway, upgrade using installer (booting the installer in upgrade mode to be precise) is the way to upgrade the distribution. Using urpmi should be another method : * upgrade urpmi if needed (updates or direct update of target urpmi (complicated)). * urpmi.addmedia --distrib removable://mnt/cdrom will import gpg keys and 9.2 media to be used. * urpmi --auto-select (will need a lot of space in /var unless network media are used), kernel may need to be installed (depending if a require on some of the package needs explicitely a newer kernel, highly probable with older version). * reboot (still better not to use old copy of almost all libraries and current libraries). François.
Re: [Cooker] localisation files for webapps
Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2003, 14:10:46 Uhr MET, schrieb Guillaume Rousse: Several web applications, including all horde suite and mailman, include localisation files under their own directory in /var/www/html. Is there a way to use %find_lang macro so as to look for files elsewhere as under /usr/share/locale ? No, but it shouldn't be too hard to write one that has another option for a directory root where it can look for subdirectories that match the locale codes. For my own culture, what's the difference between .mo files included under 'locale' directory, and .po files included under 'po' directory ? .po files are text files, .mo files are compiled binary versions of the .po files. They are different between big and little endian architectures. -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
[Cooker] [Bug 4758] [apache-mod_perl] Apache is unavailable as httpd2
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4758 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-04-09 08:17 --- This was fixed in the 9.2 betas. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: error message is : httpd2 Syntax error on line 2 of /etc/httpd/conf.c/75_mod_perl.conf cannot load /etc/httpd/2.0/extramodules/mod_perl.so into server: libperl.so: cannot open shared object file. This is all i can find ont eh problem
Re: [Cooker] localisation files for webapps
On 2003-09-04(Thu) 14:10:46 +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Several web applications, including all horde suite and mailman, include localisation files under their own directory in /var/www/html. Is there a way to use %find_lang macro so as to look for files elsewhere as under /usr/share/locale ? Certainly possible, but since such case is not very common, and dir/file structure of localization files can possibly be different in each app, it is probably more convenient to use %lang tag in file list instead. Abel -- Abel Cheung Linux counter #256983 | http://counter.li.org GPG Key: (0xC67186FF) | http://deaddog.org/gpg.asc Key fingerprint: 671C C7AE EFB5 110C D6D1 41EE 4152 E1F1 C671 86FF pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[Cooker] [Bug 5132] [php-mysql] mysql 4 license conflict with php
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5132 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||LATER --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-04-09 08:27 --- According to a post on php|architect by Zak Greant [EMAIL PROTECTED], MySQL AB Community Advocate: We are preparing an extension for the GPL as it is applied to MySQL that will grant additional rights to users. (Can we do this? Yes - the FSF has done this itself with Bison - see http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#TOCCanIUseGPLToolsForNF) The extension will allow users to explicitly link (and then distribute) the MySQL client library into combined works that are licenced in entirety under one or more open source licenses. (How will we determine if something is an open source license? We will likely use the Open Source Initiatives Open Source Definition [See http://opensource.org/docs/definition.php] and list of approved Open Source licenses [See http://opensource.org/licenses/] ) We are still hashing out the exact details internally, with our lawyers and with community leaders, and hope to have a completed text within a few weeks. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: php-mysql is linked to libmysqlclient. But libmysqlclient is not longer LGPL. The license of libmysqlclient V4 is now GPL (check the sources in libmysql and libmysql_r directory). PHP license is incompatible with GPL : http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html The PHP License, Version 3.0. This license is used by most of PHP4. It is a non-copyleft free software license which is incompatible with the GNU GPL. We recommend that you not use this license for anything except PHP add-ons. The Zend License, Version 2.0. This license is used by one part of PHP4. It is a non-copyleft free software license which is incompatible with the GNU GPL, and has practical problems like those of the original BSD license. We recommend that you not use this license for anything you write. This new conflit also applies to apache_mod_mysql.
Re: [Cooker] urpmi.uppdate pb? holds solution.
guran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OBSERVE that this shit is written in my home direcrory, = working directory, and not to /var/cashe/urpmi Which version of urpmi did you used ? I made systematic chdir into the cache for download (to avoid writing in current directory for download program used (especially wget)) since urpmi-4.4-27mdk, but it appears you are more up-to-date according to kernel used (unless you upgraded only the kernel ?). I managed to get back an error using sunet style mirror, exit code 8 of curl meaning server has sent data curl didn't understood. François.
Re: [Cooker] konsole without kdebase-konsole
On Thursday 04 September 2003 14:04, Laurent Montel wrote: Le Thursday 04 September 2003 13:34, andre a écrit : How can i still have konsole when i de-install kdebase-konsole? Strange your question :) misunderstand question kdebase-konsole isn't installed on my system but i still have konsole in the menu and it still works. ps seems to be libkdebase-konsole which was still installed Konsole is into this package so if you removed it, konsole will remove it's normal. Regards.
[Cooker] [Bug 5235] [kernel] firewire (sbp2) hangs
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5235 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-04-09 08:27 --- I have tried with the last kernel (2.4.22-4mdk) and it hangs too. from /var/log/message : Sep 3 21:49:02 dell kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 command Sep 3 21:49:02 dell kernel: Write (10) 00 02 54 2a 00 00 00 08 00 Sep 3 21:52:15 dell kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 command Sep 3 21:52:15 dell kernel: Read(10) 00 03 c7 3d 58 00 00 f8 00 Sep 3 21:53:16 dell kernel: ieee1394: sbp2: aborting sbp2 command -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: UNCONFIRMED creation_date: description: On 9.2 rc1 2.4.22-1mdk (bundled with iso), when i plug my firewire disk, le system load sbp2, i can mount the disk, but after few seconds, the transfert freeze, and there an sbp2 error in /var/log/message. it's a regression because it uses to work well with mandrake 9.0 and 9.1
[Cooker] [Bug 5007] [Installation] RC1: Failed install for i810 chipset
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Severity|major |critical --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-04-09 08:34 --- Same problem here, Sony PCG-FX150 with i810 chipset. /usr/bin/insmod_ 2 /dev/tty5 /tmp/i810fb.o xres=800 hsync1=32 hsync2=48 vsync1=50 vsync2=70 vram=2 bpp=16 accell=1 mtrr=1 hwcur=1 xcon=4 /tmp/i810fb.o: symbol for parameter xres not found -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: ASSIGNED creation_date: description: HW is Compaq D3vm, integrated graphic chipset i810. Start of X server crash with no screen found error message. Other relevant messages: trying to load i810fb module with res 800 (vga was 788) warning: insmoding module i810fb failed in perl* line 408 Previous installation for Beta1, Beta2, MDK 9.1 works OK.
Re: [Cooker] localisation files for webapps
Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2003, 20:29:09 Uhr MET, schrieb Abel Cheung: On 2003-09-04(Thu) 14:10:46 +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Several web applications, including all horde suite and mailman, include localisation files under their own directory in /var/www/html. Is there a way to use %find_lang macro so as to look for files elsewhere as under /usr/share/locale ? Certainly possible, but since such case is not very common, and dir/file structure of localization files can possibly be different in each app, it is probably more convenient to use %lang tag in file list instead. It should be pretty easy if the apps use the right language codes, then you'd just have to do something like this: dir=/var/www/someapp/locale for langdir in $dir/*; do language=$(basename $langdir) echo %lang($language) $langdir done CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
On Thursday 04 September 2003 14:09, David Baudens wrote: I don't understand why people want always install a terminal. Most of users don't need it. If you need one, simply choose Consoles tools category when you can choose which packages should be installed. And if you need one after installation, simply launch rpmdrake and install a terminal. Linux is not windows. Even if your a n00b you need a terminal. For instance if you want to play frozen-bubble and start at level 70 than the easiest way to do that is with frozen-bubble -l70. On windows you don't have a lot of programs that have commandline options. On linux many do I can understand that most of people using Cooker need a terminal. But you also need to understand that we don't develop a product only for Cooker users. Most of our users simply don't need a terminal. I think you misunderstand your core market. It is filled with people who have enough of windows and are Nix n00bs, not computer n00bs
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
Ainsi parlait David Baudens : I can understand that most of people using Cooker need a terminal. But you also need to understand that we don't develop a product only for Cooker users. Most of our users simply don't need a terminal. And why not let newbies choose by themselves ? You'd better provide documentation for educating them, instead of deciding for them. BTW, we are not discussing if newbies need or don't need a terminal, we're constesting the fact that one application should be an exception to general mdk policy, and miss a menu entry just because it could eventually confuse some user. Otherwise we could as well remove menu entry for all browsers except konqueror, for instance... -- the more an item of equipment costs, the farther you have to send it away to be repaired -- Murphy's Bush Fire Brigade Laws n°18
[Cooker] [PROPOSAL] add windows fonts import in drakfirstime
I've just read an article from a journalist of 01.net ( http://www.01net.com/article/215463.html ) that spend one week with the Mandrake 9.1 The conclusion if mostly good. pro : - easy installation - decent good hardware support - good windows offices apps and multimédia files compatibility con : - problems using USB digital camera/smart card under gnome. See as storage device, icon on desktop but unable to use it or as to launch a partition tool. I think that in this case we should have a special wizard that deals with this kind of things and will propose application to install, provide tips for using it and finally list problems user may encounter. - miss font form OpenOffice and system. In fact the journalist doesn't use drakfont, couldn't figure that drakfont exist ( even worse ). So the ability to import font in the system should be add to first time wizard, but if first time wizard is run as user we have a problem. How to show to the user where he could easily add his fonts. In fact help should be redesign and provide a desktop user task oriented layout with good color scheme/icons ( little bit like XP/OSX ) so that when the user open it, he will se that he can : import windows fonts, share his directory on his LAN, set a firewall, set internet connection sharing, configure TV, configure scanner. A little bit like the wizard you can see with Windows 2000 server, or a demo like with Windows Me/XP ( Flash demo ? ) It seems that most of the time windows user avoid to dig through the menu or launch MCC and see what's available. - ISP phone number forget ... I don't know if he use drakconnect or not but this is annoying. - Many things not obvious or not correctly explained in the help/doc.
Re: [Cooker] Re: My PCMCIA NIC didn't work in b2, can it be fixed..
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Buchan Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] just before: card NE2000 Compatible Fast Ethernet on line 794 of /etc/pcmcia/config, and then drakconnect even finds it ... Ah, nice. I guess at worst I can edit this file manually before drakconnect runs during installation? Yes (but we should really be able to fix that fish..). Well, installing RC1 on my laptop, editing /mnt/etc/pcmcia/config didn't work, and I probably edited /etc/pcmcia/config too late ... but I think drakconnect still does bad things, especially if anyone cares about a working Winbind, and/or a working config in a network that uses DDNS :-(. More reasons why drakconnect sucketh follow in a seperate mail. Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/VzsprJK6UGDSBKcRAte+AJ0UB7dEtpv3+LOMsLJzvXyafM50ZACfeJV4 e0XIrXCOx7OBRLuqZUhNs7o= =Bz6r -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
[Cooker] pcmcia problem
after having problem with my D-Link wireless card I removed the pcmcia package and all wireless extensions. reisntalled pcmcia_cs and now pcmcia doesn' t work anymor at all. trying to run cardmgr complain of no pcmcia device in /proc/devices any idea ? BErnard -- -Quote of the day -- Ice and water, Their difference resolved, Are friends again. (Yasuhara Teishitsu) Digital Objects Ltd Internet security / Web hosting design / Web enabled applications PO Box 60510, Titirangi Waitakere City Phone: 0800 LETS DOIT (538736) Fax: +64 9 8128 368 www.digitalobjects.co.nz smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [Cooker] localisation files for webapps
On 2003-09-04(Thu) 14:43:45 +0200, Gtz Waschk wrote: Certainly possible, but since such case is not very common, and dir/file structure of localization files can possibly be different in each app, it is probably more convenient to use %lang tag in file list instead. It should be pretty easy if the apps use the right language codes, then you'd just have to do something like this: Certainly, if structure is similar then it would be easy. But somehow phpnuke immediately pops up in my mind. Abel dir=/var/www/someapp/locale for langdir in $dir/*; do language=$(basename $langdir) echo %lang($language) $langdir done CU -- What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy? Mahatma Gandhi (1869 - 1948), Non-Violence in Peace and War -- Abel Cheung Linux counter #256983 | http://counter.li.org GPG Key: (0xC67186FF) | http://deaddog.org/gpg.asc Key fingerprint: 671C C7AE EFB5 110C D6D1 41EE 4152 E1F1 C671 86FF pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] add windows fonts import in drakfirstime
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 FACORAT Fabrice wrote: I've just read an article from a journalist of 01.net ( http://www.01net.com/article/215463.html ) that spend one week with the Mandrake 9.1 The conclusion if mostly good. pro : - easy installation - decent good hardware support - good windows offices apps and multimédia files compatibility con : - problems using USB digital camera/smart card under gnome. See as storage device, icon on desktop but unable to use it or as to launch a partition tool. Should be able to access the files ok, but it would be nice if there were a format option for it (but what to launch? diskdrake?). I think that in this case we should have a special wizard that deals with this kind of things and will propose application to install, provide tips for using it and finally list problems user may encounter. - miss font form OpenOffice and system. In fact the journalist doesn't use drakfont, couldn't figure that drakfont exist ( even worse ). So the ability to import font in the system should be add to first time wizard, but if first time wizard is run as user we have a problem. Well, maybe the firsttime wizard should check if /etc/drakfwrc exists, if not, ask the user if they would like to run the System administration wizard (and propmt for the password)? How to show to the user where he could easily add his fonts. In fact help should be redesign and provide a desktop user task oriented layout with good color scheme/icons ( little bit like XP/OSX ) so that when the user open it, he will se that he can : import windows fonts, share his directory on his LAN, set a firewall, set internet connection sharing, configure TV, configure scanner. A little bit like the wizard you can see with Windows 2000 server, or a demo like with Windows Me/XP ( Flash demo ? ) Win2k3 server wizard is pretty good (better than win2k server), and has good a integrated help system. You can find docs for integrating Unix kerberos systems in it even. It seems that most of the time windows user avoid to dig through the menu or launch MCC and see what's available. - ISP phone number forget ... I don't know if he use drakconnect or not but this is annoying. Drakconnect has many irritating bugs ... and they don't seem to get addressed :-(. - Many things not obvious or not correctly explained in the help/doc. IMHO, instead of just providing a docs package with a menu entry to an HTML help package, we need an indexed or indexable help system, and help browsers with search capabilities (and yelp's one doesn't qualify ..). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/Vz3CrJK6UGDSBKcRAnPAAJ45wejD8iyydjpRns2FkjnwBeOyTQCePReS tUsuNzO94wElArQfoiUmf/o= =lqev -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] urpmi.uppdate pb? holds solution.
On Thursday 04 September 2003 14.41, François Pons wrote: guran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OBSERVE that this shit is written in my home direcrory, = working directory, and not to /var/cashe/urpmi Which version of urpmi did you used ? I made systematic chdir into the cache for download (to avoid writing in current directory for download program used (especially wget)) since urpmi-4.4-27mdk, but it appears you are more up-to-date according to kernel used (unless you upgraded only the kernel ?). I managed to get back an error using sunet style mirror, exit code 8 of curl meaning server has sent data curl didn't understood. François. I am using the same urpmi now, and the problem has disappeared, might be because I have sent mails to both uninett and sunet. [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]$ rpm -qa urpmi* urpmi-4.4-29mdk (this was reported in my first mail on this thread, http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2003-09/msg00721.php regards guran -- Mandrake Linux Cooker 9.2 KDE kernel-2.4.22.4mdk-1-1mdk Version:20030902 14:27 Only in a society that has 'a priori' defined what is the truth can the result from the evolution of life be defined false.
[Cooker] Simplified Chinese and 9.2-RC1 problems
Summary: There are problems with using Chinese (simplified) and Mandrake. Chinput not only doesn't work, it doesn't even seem to exist as an RPM. There are locale problems with the shell. KDE is using the wrong font (probably using traditional character font instead of a simplified character font) - this may or may not be a locale problem. xdm crashes when quitting the KDE window manager. konsole is not installed. the console, when booting, does not display Chinese characters, but only garbage. Details: I initially installed using English with added Chinese language support. I changed KDE to use Chinese using the Accessibility|Country - Region and Language setting. (where else would the average user change this?) There were font problems from the start, using only traditional characters and not simplified characters. There was no Chinput input method. And no Konsole either!! - had to install it by hand. Chinput, by the way, was not working in 9.1 either. It had GB font problems. I was unable to get it to work. I hear it worked fine in 9.0. It needs to be fixed and put back in and installed by default when simplified Chinese language is selected. By the way, quitting KDE does not go back to the graphical login xdm mode (even though I am in runlevel 5). This happens both when auto-logging in and when manually logging in. So it brings me back to console login. I have not been able to narrow down where the problem is. I wanted to try gdm and kdm instead of mdkkdm, but had problems changing and did not have time to test. I decided to install again, but this time entirely in Chinese. I only chose to load in two packages on installation: KDE and GNOME. The installation process worked fine, and I set the default user to go into KDE. On boot, the booting messages, verbose mode (starting services and such), had no Chinese character support, but had Chinese text, so it was all upper ASCII garbage. KDE had no simplified character support, so it had empty boxes for many of characters. Again, no Konsole was installed (I had to install it by hand). This should be installed with KDE. Most of my menus were in English. The bash shell had locale problems. It said locale: cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory. It said the same for LC_MESSAGES and LC_ALL. When doing a printenv or looking at .i18n, the LC_* variables were most set at zh_CN.UTF-8, with a few set at en_US.UTF-8 LANG, LC_CTYPE, LC_TIME, LC_COLLATE, LC_MESSAGES). XMODIFIERS was set as @im=none. (I think the files of interest here are /etc/profile.d/10lang.sh. The XMODIFIERS is set in /etc/X11/xinit/XIM, and there is something in /etc/sysconfig/i18n as well.) I did startx as root after logging in without the xdm support. This went into gnome, and everything worked fine, except no Chinput support. I must say, however, that my LC_* variables were all zh_CN as root. As my user, they were zh_CN.UTF-8 and a few were en. This is something that should be looked into. We should by default make the user's .i18n LC_* variables something reasonable. I do not know if UTF-8 is reasonable yet. My problems may largely be related to these LC_ variables. drakconf works fine with simplified chinese. I will also add that when I did export LC_ALL=en and export LANG=en and then did startx as root, Gnome started in Chinese, but the gnome panel consistently had a segmentation fault, died, restarted, and segfaulted again. Go figure. When they were all back at zh_CN again, there were no problems. I ran out of time to do further testing, but I wanted to get this out so others can look at it and think about how to solve some of these issues, and maybe help me understand this better. The bottom lines, however, are as follows: Chinput must be installed and it needs to work, unlike in 9.1 The locale variables need to be set properly by default, especially when doing a Chinese install. The console needs Chinese font support if you are going to display Chinese messages on boot. KDE and Gnome need to work properly with Chinese language support. xdm/mdkkdm needs to run properly after quitting KDE Finally, I STRONGLY suggest making the login screen (xdm, gdm, etc) able to change the language. Redhad does this by default. gdm seems to be able to do it. People need to be able to choose their language before logging in, and not have to negotiate menus in English. Chinese speakers (who have little or no English) have no problems using Redhat - it all works out of the box. For this reason only, I have a hard time recommending Mandrake to them, even though I prefer it. So I want language selection to be simple and painless for the average user. I am unsure exactly where to report all this. I assume this is the right place. I think there is too much and it is too vague to report on bugzilla. If there is somewhere else I should report, perhaps someone could direct me
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait David Baudens : I can understand that most of people using Cooker need a terminal. But you also need to understand that we don't develop a product only for Cooker users. Most of our users simply don't need a terminal. And why not let newbies choose by themselves ? You'd better provide documentation for educating them, instead of deciding for them. BTW, we are not discussing if newbies need or don't need a terminal, we're constesting the fact that one application should be an exception to general mdk policy, and miss a menu entry just because it could eventually confuse some user. Otherwise we could as well remove menu entry for all browsers except konqueror, for instance... So, maybe a better option is to move rxvt under the Configuration menu? Then, if a user hasn't chose console tools, they won't be confused by the Terminals menu section, but will find a command prompt somewhere they expect to find it (since they will likely only use it when doing configuration - if they wanted a real shell to use generally, they could install one?). BTW, win2k3 server has Command Prompt as one of the 3 main menu entries (moved from it's obscure position in Programs-Accessories-System Tools in win2k, where it went from being under Programs in win9x). Seems even MS acknowledges that administrators want quick access to a command prompt (although I am just too accustomted to Win+R-cmd ;-)). Regards, Buchan - -- |--Another happy Mandrake Club member--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/Vz7grJK6UGDSBKcRAid5AJ9frfBP5jVycSHsk8m7gb9dFNSp3wCeL941 YBzD/u5NFoWCtlkG+brjkBc= =5zCO -END PGP SIGNATURE- * Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. *
Re: [Cooker] pcmcia problem
On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Bernard Varaine wrote: after having problem with my D-Link wireless card I removed the pcmcia package and all wireless extensions. reisntalled pcmcia_cs and now pcmcia doesn' t work anymor at all. trying to run cardmgr complain of no pcmcia device in /proc/devices any idea ? BErnard [EMAIL PROTECTED] stew]$ head -1 /etc/sysconfig/pcmcia PCMCIA=yes I'd suspect this may be set to no now? -- Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft
[Cooker] standard macros for webapps
I'm currently upgrading chora, and i have some corrections to do to bugzilla
and mailman package. In order to make maintaince easier, it would be better
to define some standard macro for commonly used directories.
My current proposal is just to make packagers agree on those macros for now,
and enforce them manually in spec file, and later turn them in standard rpm
macros.
The following ones are generic:
%define webroot /var/www
%define webconf %{_sysconfdir}/httpd/conf.d
This one is application-specific:
%define approot %{webroot}/html/%{name}
Some package currently use %prefix for the last one, but i'm not sure if it is
very wise to play with this macro, as it has a specific meaning for rpm. I
could be wrong however.
WDYT ?
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Re: [Cooker] urpmi.uppdate pb? holds solution.
guran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am using the same urpmi now, and the problem has disappeared, might be because I have sent mails to both uninett and sunet. [EMAIL PROTECTED] guran]$ rpm -qa urpmi* urpmi-4.4-29mdk (this was reported in my first mail on this thread, http://archives.mandrakelinux.com/cooker/2003-09/msg00721.php You may want to configure one medium with hdlist and severall medium with synthesis so that if one mirror is failing, the other are continuing working (or at least may be continuing). François.
[Cooker] [Bug 5252] [initscripts] New: problem fscking / filesystem when on reiserfs
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5252
Product: initscripts
Component: initscripts
Summary: problem fscking / filesystem when on reiserfs
Product: initscripts
Version: 7.06-21mdk
Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Severity: normal
Priority: P2
Component: initscripts
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
After i upgrade from 9.1 to 9.2rc1, and after when upfating to 2.4.22-4mdk, i
had the same bug : fsck the / filesystem tells there is something wrong even is
the filesystem is OK.
in fact it is the test in the rc.sysinit that there is a problem,
i had be able to boot again my system enablin fastboot on the boot line command
to overcomme the lines testing the / filesystem on the script.
ROOTFSTYPE=`awk '/ \/ / ($3 !~ /rootfs/) { print $3 }' /proc/mounts`
if [ -z $fastboot -a X$ROOTFSTYPE != Xnfs ]; then
gprintf Checking root filesystem\n
Fsck -T -a $fsckoptions /
^**
the problem is perhaps due to the fact that / is mounted read/write, and
fsck.reseirfs in not able to test a filesystem mounted read/write, the / has to
be first mounted read only, tested, and remonted read/write.
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[Cooker] [Bug 5253] [drakxtools] New: No Valid mode found for this DFP/LCD
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5253 Product: drakxtools Component: XFdrake Summary: No Valid mode found for this DFP/LCD Product: drakxtools Version: 9.2-6mdk Platform: PC OS/Version: All Status: UNCONFIRMED Severity: critical Priority: P5 Component: XFdrake AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No Valid mode found for this DFP/LCD in my ladptop : Asus L5C , Radeon 9000 64 Mo , Flat panel 1400x1050. Error in XFREE , no bios found in pci space ... Only work in FBDEV ! ( Mandrake 9.1 9.2 Rc1 ) Help me ( sorry i am a french boy ) -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.
Re: [Cooker] Initscripts: many services missing
Quel Qun wrote: As of tonight, many services are not started in runlevel 3 although they are listed as on by chkconfig. I had to start syslog, xinetd, network and xfs manually, and surely some others are missing. Since syslog is one of the missing in action, it is quite difficult to guess what is going on. initscripts-7.06-21mdk Also, I don't know if this is related, but the old 'bash: TMOUT: readonly variable' is back everytime I start a new terminal. the 22mdk version of initscripts corrects most of the problems introduced with 21mdk, but still does not shutdown the machine cleanly. Eric
[Cooker] Epiphany as the top choice for webclient-gnome?
How about bumping up the priority of epiphany as the best choice for webclient-gnome, since epiphany is now considered Gnome's choice for web browser? Generally the best choice thing is for newbies, since a little more 'advanced' users (who can distinguish between galeon, epiphany, mozilla etc), can select their own favorite browser, or tweak the alternative to manual mode instead. Anyway, which would be better? Epiphany? Galeon? Abel -- Abel Cheung Linux counter #256983 | http://counter.li.org GPG Key: (0xC67186FF) | http://deaddog.org/gpg.asc Key fingerprint: 671C C7AE EFB5 110C D6D1 41EE 4152 E1F1 C671 86FF pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Cooker] Simplified Chinese and 9.2-RC1 problems
Victor Roetman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally, I STRONGLY suggest making the login screen (xdm, gdm, etc) able to change the language. The non-graphical chooser has this option. This should be a no-brainer to make default. It would be very nice indeed if *dm takes this in account. # Han -- http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/quotingguide.html
Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] add windows fonts import in drakfirstime
FACORAT Fabrice wrote: - problems using USB digital camera/smart card under gnome. See as storage device, icon on desktop but unable to use it or as to launch a partition tool. Should be able to access the files ok, but it would be nice if there were a format option for it (but what to launch? diskdrake?). Diskdrake is a bad idea. as : 1°/ will show partition 2°/ too complicated for this. a wizard is better. you have several choice ( format, configure, install some apps ) and the user dig through the wizard and select what he want I think that in this case we should have a special wizard that deals with this kind of things and will propose application to install, provide tips for using it and finally list problems user may encounter. - miss font form OpenOffice and system. In fact the journalist doesn't use drakfont, couldn't figure that drakfont exist ( even worse ). So the ability to import font in the system should be add to first time wizard, but if first time wizard is run as user we have a problem. Well, maybe the firsttime wizard should check if /etc/drakfwrc exists, if not, ask the user if they would like to run the System administration wizard (and propmt for the password)? nice idea but what about drakfont and others tools ? another idea is to display a page with task oriented admin entries, the users should say during installation if he want to see this wizard as in a networked environment, the sysadmin will not appreciate if the user see this when they will be first connected. How to show to the user where he could easily add his fonts. In fact help should be redesign and provide a desktop user task oriented layout with good color scheme/icons ( little bit like XP/OSX ) so that when the user open it, he will se that he can : import windows fonts, share his directory on his LAN, set a firewall, set internet connection sharing, configure TV, configure scanner. A little bit like the wizard you can see with Windows 2000 server, or a demo like with Windows Me/XP ( Flash demo ? ) Win2k3 server wizard is pretty good (better than win2k server), and has good a integrated help system. You can find docs for integrating Unix kerberos systems in it even. Unfortunately I never use win2k3, but really mdk need something like this. They have good config but many people don't know they exist or what to do with. It seems that most of the time windows user avoid to dig through the menu or launch MCC and see what's available. - ISP phone number forget ... I don't know if he use drakconnect or not but this is annoying. Drakconnect has many irritating bugs ... and they don't seem to get addressed :-(. And the pb is that when an user don't have internet connection working he had to boot to windows to ask help, etc ... Internet connecting should really be a must work thing. - Many things not obvious or not correctly explained in the help/doc. IMHO, instead of just providing a docs package with a menu entry to an HTML help package, we need an indexed or indexable help system, and help browsers with search capabilities (and yelp's one doesn't qualify ..). but kdehelp can do it. Maybe yelp will implement it in the future
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] php-4.3.3-2mdk
On Wed, 3 Sep 2003, Ben Reser wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:05:53AM +0200, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: I explained. If encoded RPATH concerned X11 libs, update their aclocal.m4 (LIBTOOL) with bits from system's to add x11 libs in skip list. You said it should be possible. How about providing the bits (as you put it) to do just that. gc's patch. ;-) Something like the following applied to aclocal.m4 or acinclude.m4 if you intend to regenerate the former: @@ -1932,8 +1932,8 @@ shlibpath_overrides_runpath=unknown version_type=none dynamic_linker=$host_os ld.so -sys_lib_dlsearch_path_spec=/lib /usr/lib -sys_lib_search_path_spec=/lib /usr/lib /usr/local/lib +sys_lib_dlsearch_path_spec=/lib /usr/lib /usr/X11R6/lib +sys_lib_search_path_spec=/lib /usr/lib /usr/local/lib /usr/X11R6/lib case $host_os in aix3*) Besides, configure seems to list: --disable-rpath Disable passing additional runtime library search paths doesn't it work? Or hell even better, why don't you just fix chrpath as Debian did to work right on 64-bit archs? Done, but I'd still prefer the right disabling of rpath without using chrpath. I once saw a null DT_RPATH entry, it looks weird... Bye, Gwenole.
Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] Post Halloween like status page
FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please feel free to add entries, but I'd rather see this on wiki ... I think main common problems should go to the Errata page (vdanen has access to those pages, in general I am of the persons who write down the errata text and submit to him, I don't know who are the others, maybe only vincent) for maximum visibility, and for more advanced ones, wiki is of course very good, and it should certainly be linked from the official Mdk errata page because the more info is easily accessible, the easier it is for the community to do support for our releases. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
[Cooker] [Bug 5228] [rpmdrake] Stealing focus from other apps after packages are installed
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5228 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-04-09 10:12 --- I don't know. I tried all Window managers I have installed (KDE, GNOME, IceWM, WindowMaker) and these little dialog boxes pop up every time and in all of them. The situation is the worst in KDE where in addition to little dialog box also the main rpmdrake window comes into focus. In others only dialog box comes into focus. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: After all packages are installed a dialog box shows telling you that all packages have been installed. It steals focus from any app runing and brings RPMDrake window to front. I guess that for this dialog stealing focus is OK to alert user. But the following dialog boxes that tell you something like Please wait, updating list of packages are also stealing focus but they should quietly work in background. I think that stealing focus is a very bad thing in general as it disturbs any work in another application the user is doing. Focus stealing should be reserved only for realy important messages that need attention and should be kept to an absolute minimum.
Re: [Cooker] Epiphany as the top choice for webclient-gnome?
On 09/04/2003 09:57:10 AM, Abel Cheung wrote: Generally the best choice thing is for newbies, since a little more 'advanced' users (who can distinguish between galeon, epiphany, mozilla etc), can select their own favorite browser, or tweak the alternative to manual mode instead. Anyway, which would be better? Epiphany? Galeon? I find that galeon kicks more ass. :-) Austin
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
David Baudens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just as a side note, in Windows XP, only solution to do a real check of the disk is to open a Command Prompt (that's how it's called, and it's installed by default) and to use chkdsk from there. Just to show that even users of XP (the easy OS) need sometimes to do things in Command Prompt - and we even encourage them to do a chkdsk from there before installing Mandrake. Now, there is another reason, maybe even more important: Linux is, as Windows, still too complicated for most users, who tend to ask their friends for support when they have a request. And these friends will surely often ask them to open a console or a terminal and launch whatever command from there. Hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1 is more complicated (and won't work if they want to launch an XFree app). Thus, a terminal program should be installed and easily accessible from the Menu, in my humble opinion (even if one is accessible from MCC, because if the friend is a Debian fan he won't know that). I don't understand why people want always install a terminal. Most of users don't need it. If you need one, simply choose Consoles tools category when you can choose which packages should be installed. And if you need one after installation, simply launch rpmdrake and install a terminal. You've misunderstood me, seems that you've read me too fast. I underlined that, first, people are not confused by it because it exists in their Windows world, second, they need one easily accessible when they ask friends to do support for them (telephone, irc, etc) - in that case, Ctrl-Alt-F1, MCC or rpmdrake are some options but it's not easy and their Debian friends might not know the two latter. I didn't say they would need a terminal in their day-to-day use. -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/
[Cooker] [RC1 bug] apache-conf and esperanto
Saluton! There is an internationalisation problem with apache-conf-2.0.47-3mdk, which is very easy to fix. In /etc/httpd/conf/commonhttpd.conf, you cannot find the line : AddLanguage eo .eo which would allow to use content negociation with esperanto web pages. This is not a surprise, because the bug is corrected *only* in the current Apache CVS, not in 2.0.47 which appeared earlier : http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21685 So, can you fix this file before Mandrake 9.2 final? Mi dankas vin kore! Grgoire
[Cooker] kmail-aegypten-plugins
This package is just a a virtual package, taking care of proper dependencies needed for the plugins. It should be moved to kdenetwork-kmail-aegypten-plugins, or maybe just kdenetwork-kmail-plugins, as kmail is actually in kdenetwork-kmail package. Moreover, it would move that really useful feature into main instead of contrib. Many dependencies are redundant: -kdenetwork (which should now be kdenetwork-kmail) already requires kdebase -libgpgme6 already requires gnupg -newpg already requires libgcrypt and libksba -dirmngr already requires libgcrypt and libksba also -cryptplug already requires libgpgme I guess just requiring the following should be ok: -kdenetwork-kmail -cryptplug -dirmngr -newpg -pinentry -- If you take more than your fair share of objectives, you will get more than your fair share of objectives to take -- Murphy's Military Laws n°45
[Cooker] problems with kroupware
I'm not gonna explain much, as it's not needed, just read below, Laurent, this one is for you;)) nsker du fortsette installasjonen ? (j/N) j installerer /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdenetwork-kmail-3.1.3-28mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdenetwork-common-3.1.3-28mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/bootloader-utils-1.5-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/initscripts-7.06-22mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mandrake_doc-common-9.2-0.3mdk.noarch.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libkdenetwork2-common-3.1.3-28mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en-9.2-0.3mdk.noarch.rpm starting installing packages opprettet transaksjon for installasjon p / (fjern=0, installer=0, oppgrader=7) legger til pakke kdenetwork-kmail-3.1.3-28mdk.i586 (id=1356, eid=1356, oppdater=1, fil=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdenetwork-kmail-3.1.3-28mdk.i586.rpm) legger til pakke kdenetwork-common-3.1.3-28mdk.i586 (id=664, eid=664, oppdater=1, fil=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/kdenetwork-common-3.1.3-28mdk.i586.rpm) legger til pakke bootloader-utils-1.5-1mdk.i586 (id=138, eid=138, oppdater=1, fil=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/bootloader-utils-1.5-1mdk.i586.rpm) legger til pakke initscripts-7.06-22mdk.i586 (id=140, eid=140, oppdater=1, fil=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/initscripts-7.06-22mdk.i586.rpm) legger til pakke mandrake_doc-common-9.2-0.3mdk.noarch (id=380, eid=380, oppdater=1, fil=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mandrake_doc-common-9.2-0.3mdk.noarch.rpm) legger til pakke libkdenetwork2-common-3.1.3-28mdk.i586 (id=644, eid=644, oppdater=1, fil=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libkdenetwork2-common-3.1.3-28mdk.i586.rpm) legger til pakke mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en-9.2-0.3mdk.noarch (id=2434, eid=2434, oppdater=1, fil=/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en-9.2-0.3mdk.noarch.rpm) Forbereder... ## Installasjon mislykket: file /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_ktalkd.so from install of libkdenetwork2-common-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package libkdenetwork_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/lib/kde3/kded_kinetd.so from install of libkdenetwork2-common-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package libkdenetwork_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/lib/kde3/kfile_rfc822.so from install of libkdenetwork2-common-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package libkdenetwork_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/lib/kde3/khtml_kget.la from install of libkdenetwork2-common-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package libkdenetwork_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/lib/kde3/khtml_kget.so from install of libkdenetwork2-common-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package libkdenetwork_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/lib/kde3/kpf_panelapplet.so from install of libkdenetwork2-common-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package libkdenetwork_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/lib/kde3/kpfpropertiesdialog.so from install of libkdenetwork2-common-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package libkdenetwork_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/lib/libkdenetwork.so.2.0.0 from install of libkdenetwork2-common-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package libkdenetwork_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/lib/libkntsrcfilepropsdlg.la from install of libkdenetwork2-common-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package libkdenetwork_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/lib/libmimelib.so.1.0.1 from install of libkdenetwork2-common-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package libkdenetwork_kroupware2-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/bin/kgpgcertmanager from install of kdenetwork-common-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package kdenetwork_kroupware-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/bin/kmail from install of kdenetwork-kmail-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package kdenetwork_kroupware-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/bin/kmailcvt from install of kdenetwork-kmail-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package kdenetwork_kroupware-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/lib/menu/kdenetwork-kmail from install of kdenetwork-kmail-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package kdenetwork_kroupware-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/share/applnk/Internet/KMail.desktop from install of kdenetwork-kmail-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package kdenetwork_kroupware-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/share/apps/kconf_update/kmail.upd from install of kdenetwork-kmail-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package kdenetwork_kroupware-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/share/apps/kmail/eventsrc from install of kdenetwork-kmail-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package kdenetwork_kroupware-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/share/apps/kmail/kmcomposerui.rc from install of kdenetwork-kmail-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package kdenetwork_kroupware-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/share/apps/kmail/kmmainwin.rc from install of kdenetwork-kmail-3.1.3-28mdk conflicts with file from package kdenetwork_kroupware-1.0.1-1mdk file /usr/share/apps/kmail/profile-default-rc from install of
Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select just freezes
On Thursday 04 September 2003 04:31 am, François Pons wrote: After upgrading urpmi and perl-URPM (why isn't there a version requirement between these two?) yesterday I now cant do urpmi --auto-select It just stands still at the prompt until I ^C out of it (I had it stading like this for 5 hours). I can see in the process list that it runs and that it in the beginning uses up alot of cputime. anyone that can confirm this? Send me bug report using urpmi --bug without actually doing an --auto-select, this will help me tesing it and fixes it. I can confirm that urpmi seems broken. mine does nothing but sit there when calling up urpmi.update or urpmi. As far as bug report, it doesn't say much/anything, if I'm looking in the right place. in /var/log/urpmi.log all I get is: Thu Sep 4 09:05:53 2003 urpmi called with --bug Thu Sep 4 09:07:49 2003 urpmi called with --bug --auto-select urpmi-4.4-30mdk urpmi.setup-0.4.4-4mdk gurpmi-4.4-30mdk perl-URPM-0.94-3mdk thanks, -srlinuxx
Re: [Cooker] Epiphany as the top choice for webclient-gnome?
On 09/04/2003 09:57:10 AM, Abel Cheung wrote: Generally the best choice thing is for newbies, since a little more 'advanced' users (who can distinguish between galeon, epiphany, mozilla etc), can select their own favorite browser, or tweak the alternative to manual mode instead. Anyway, which would be better? Epiphany? Galeon? I find that galeon kicks more ass. :-) - galeon 2 seems to be more buggy - bookmark are not easy to use with galeon - epiphany can't save session or if you want to quit epiphany you have to close from the title bar as quit form menu just close current tab
Re: [Cooker] [PROPOSAL] Post Halloween like status page
FACORAT Fabrice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please feel free to add entries, but I'd rather see this on wiki ... I think main common problems should go to the Errata page (vdanen has access to those pages, in general I am of the persons who write down the errata text and submit to him, I don't know who are the others, maybe only vincent) for maximum visibility, and for more advanced ones, wiki is of course very good, and it should certainly be linked from the official Mdk errata page because the more info is easily accessible, the easier it is for the community to do support for our releases. good point
[Cooker] [Bug 3793] [ldetect-lst] Actiontec miniPCI wlan device wrongly set up with orinoco_pci kernel module
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3793 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-04-09 10:27 --- I installed MDK 9.2 RC 1 yesterday evening, and I was surprised to see that the installation tries to set up wlan with the orinoco_pci module AGAIN after the association between the miniPCI card and the orinoco_pci module was suspended in April. Happily, this problem no longer freezes up the system during the installation process. It freezes up the system when trying to start the eth1 service during boot-up instead, meaning that it is possible to turn off and restart the machine, press 'I' during boot for interactive startup and skip eth1. It is then possible to configure the network so that eth1 is _not_ started auomatically at boot time. Has anyone positively demonstrated that this Actiontec miniPCI wlan controller works with orinoco_pci? -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: NEEDINFO creation_date: description: I have an Elitegroup Green 732 notebook (ECS G732, cf. http://www.ecs.com.tw/products/g732_spec.htm) with an integrated Actiontec miniPCI 802.11b adapter (cf. http://www.actiontec.com/products/broadband/80211bminipci/80211bminipci.pdf). The same wlan device is commonly used in IBM notebooks (cf. e.g. http://www.balukoff.com/~stephen/a30p/ where descriptions of how to get the wlan device to work with linux are given). There is also an integrated SiS900 10/100 Ethernet controller (assigned to eth0; the installation process assigns the wlan device to eth1). /proc/pci identifies the wlan device as: Bus 0, device 5, function 0: Network controller: Harris Semiconductor Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset (rev 1). IRQ 9. Master Capable. Latency=64. Prefetchable 32 bit memory at 0xe8006000 [0xe8006fff]. The vendor device code is 1260:3873 During installation (or later, in DrakConnect), the device is set up with the orinoco_pci kernel module. The module is loaded without incident, but once the system tries connect to the device (e.g. during the installation's network configuration step, unless one skips this step), the system locks up completely, requiring a hard reset (as everything is installed already, MDK 9.1 boots OK afterwards - but without internet connection set up, even on eth0). According to http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux/Orinoco.html under the header Issues and release notes, Prism2.5 PCI cards are not supported and neither are miniPCI based on the PCI card (and not using a PCI-PCMCIA bridge). SuSE 8.1 does the same thing as MDK 9.1 as regards identification of the wlan device and (erroneous) relation to orinoco_pci, but as the SuSE installation only attempts to configure the main ethernet controller (i.e. no attempt is made to setting up the wlan device), the result is not as disastrous (at least for a newbie linux user!) as with the MDK 9.1 installation. Red Hat 9 doesn't seem to include any wlan kernel modules at all, so RH9 simply ignores the wlan device. As MDK 9.1 comes with the linux-wlan-ng kernel modules as well (prism2_pci etc.), I tried to modprobe prism2_pci - however getting the error described by another user (with the same wlan device) here: http://www.nclug.org/pipermail/nclug/2003-January/004856.html Perhaps the system assumes a PCI-PCMCIA bridge device rather than a native PCI device? A _temporary_ solution to the problem, would be to make a patch to the MDK 9.1 installation (and HardDrake / DrakConnect) so that it _ignores_ the device rather than attempting to use the orinoco drivers (which locks up the system). A _permanent_ solution would be to configure the linux-wlan-ng or, possibly, the host-ap driver to work with the device.
[Cooker] [Bug 5217] [mandrake_doc-fr] Documentation still for Mdk 9.1
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5217 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-04-09 10:40 --- fixed in CVS -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: All the documentation provided in file:/usr/share/doc/mandrake/fr/ still reference Mandrake Linux 9.1 Suggestion replace Mandrake Linux 9.1 with Mandrake Linux 9.1 / 9.2
[Cooker] [Bug 5050] [mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en] file conflicts with mandrake_doc-en-9.1-2mdk when upgrading from 9.1
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-04-09 10:42 --- fixed in 9.2-0.3mdk with package mandrake_doc-common-9.2-0.3mdk -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: I was trying to do an upgrade to Cooker following the instructions on http://www.pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=7018 : I removed the 9.1 RPM media and added Cooker media. Then I did urpmi urpmi, which failed in the end: [...] installing /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-devel-5.8.1-0.RC4.2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-Locale-gettext-1.01-9mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/gurpmi-4.4-28mdk.noarch.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-XML-Writer-0.4-8mdk.noarch.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libtool-1.4.3-7mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/glibc-devel-2.3.2-14mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/harddrake-ui-9.2-5mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/drakxtools-9.2-5mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/drakconf-9.2-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/rpmtools-4.5-13mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/vim-common-6.2-9mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-libwww-perl-5.69-2mdk.noarch.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/locales-en-2.3.2-4mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libuser-0.51.7-7mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/urpmi-4.4-28mdk.noarch.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-Gtk2-0.95-6mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/vim-enhanced-6.2-9mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libelfutils1-0.84-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libglib2.0_0-2.2.3-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/drakfirsttime-0.92-0.2mdk.noarch.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-Glib-0.95-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/msec-0.39-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/rpmdrake-2.1-31mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libpython2.3-2.3-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mod_perl-common-1.3.27_1.28-12mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/drakxtools-newt-9.2-5mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libltdl3-1.4.3-7mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/locales-2.3.2-4mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-Devel-Symdump-2.03-4mdk.noarch.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-Expect-1.15-6mdk.noarch.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-MDK-Common-1.1.6-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/userdrake-0.92-21mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/popt-1.8-16mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/elfutils-0.84-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-GTK-0.7009-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-URPM-0.94-2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-IO-Tty-1.02-7mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/rpm-4.2-16mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/locales-fr-2.3.2-4mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-HTML-Parser-3.31-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libltdl3-devel-1.4.3-7mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en-9.2-0.1mdk.noarch.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/glibc-2.3.2-14mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-base-5.8.1-0.RC4.2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/rpm-build-4.2-16mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/libglib2.0_0-devel-2.2.3-1mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/popt-devel-1.8-16mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-BSD-Resource-1.22-3mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-5.8.1-0.RC4.2mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/locales-nl-2.3.2-4mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/perl-URI-1.25-1mdk.noarch.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/glibc-static-devel-2.3.2-14mdk.i586.rpm /var/cache/urpmi/rpms/glib-gettextize-2.2.3-1mdk.i586.rpm Preparing...## Installation failed: file /usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/Drakxtools-Guide.html/about.html from install of mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en-9.2-0.1mdk conflicts with file from package mandrake_doc-en-9.1-2mdk file /usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/Drakxtools-Guide.html/ch08s01.html from install of mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en-9.2-0.1mdk conflicts with file from package mandrake_doc-en-9.1-2mdk file /usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/Drakxtools-Guide.html/convention.html from install of mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en-9.2-0.1mdk conflicts with file from package mandrake_doc-en-9.1-2mdk file /usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/Drakxtools-Guide.html/diskdrake-fileshare.html from install of mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en-9.2-0.1mdk conflicts with file from package mandrake_doc-en-9.1-2mdk file /usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/Drakxtools-Guide.html/diskdrake-nfs.html from install of mandrake_doc-drakxtools-en-9.2-0.1mdk conflicts with file from package mandrake_doc-en-9.1-2mdk [more file conflicts, all between the same
[Cooker] [Bug 5245] [Mesa] 3D accel (Mesa, OpenGL) crashes with Mach 64 card
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5245 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-04-09 11:10 --- Modified to use XF 3.3.6 as experimental so, XF 3.3.6 is old compared to XF 4.3, a lot of improvement are not available (especially in 2D). There seems to be a problem in Xconfiguration, XF 3.3 works with GLX provided the resolution is not too high (1024x768 is fine) and depth is only 16 bits (no more no less). Tested with KDE (or without) and it runs correctly in this environment. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: I installed 9.2 RC1, and wanted to choose the 3D acceleration support (trough old XFree86 3). It installed all the needed packages, and I could boot nicely on Gnome. However, when trying KDE it crashed; in fact, all programs using opengl crashed (that include all KDE programs). I can run any needed test if I'm told what to do. my card: ATI Mach64 Utah
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2003 12:39 schrieb David Baudens: Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2003 02:48 schrieb David Baudens: Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2003 02:21 schrieb David Baudens: Using rpmdrake or using console (ctrlr-alt-f1)? Yep i know that ( alt+F2 = rxvt) Just my humble opinion Problem is that a terminal emulator is not needed for an office/multimedia/internet/ect. workstation. So, if people who install computer don't explictly say he want to use a terminal, there is no reason to install it. It is why Konsole is not installed when KDE is installed. Act as that seems to me reasonable Ok , makes me thinking means console-tools konsole, mc and such stuff ? Hmm I think konsole should be installed by default if kde is used. The splitting however makes it possible (should) to deinstall konsole. But as i said just my humble opinion. Steffen
Re: [Cooker] what upgrade method is supported and _tested_ ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (François Pons) writes: I will try to make an urpmi update for a lot of distribution, including current urpmi and current perl-URPM, compiled for their respective targets (at least 9.0 and 9.1, I will try to add 8.2). we still have to fix a few issues. eg: rpm.8 man page was in man-pages-fr in 9.1 but will be in rpm package in 9.2. so a few package needs a few conflicts/requires
Re: [Cooker] Epiphany as the top choice for webclient-gnome?
On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 21:57:10 +0800, Abel Cheung wrote: --LwW0XdcUbUexiWVK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How about bumping up the priority of epiphany as the best choice for webclient-gnome, since epiphany is now considered Gnome's choice for web browser? Generally the best choice thing is for newbies, since a little more 'advanced' users (who can distinguish between galeon, epiphany, mozilla etc), can select their own favorite browser, or tweak the alternative to manual mode instead. Anyway, which would be better? Epiphany? Galeon? Please, read previous bug report about that.. I don't think we should change to Epiphany now.. Galeon has been Mdk GNOME default browser for a looong time and I don't want to change it now.. Maybe for Mdk 10.0 -- Frederic Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Initscripts: many services missing
On Thursday 04 September 2003 14:51, Eric Fernandez wrote: Quel Qun wrote: As of tonight, many services are not started in runlevel 3 although they are listed as on by chkconfig. I had to start syslog, xinetd, network and xfs manually, and surely some others are missing. Since syslog is one of the missing in action, it is quite difficult to guess what is going on. Something zapped all the rc.[0-9]d symlinks from /etc initscripts-7.06-21mdk Also, I don't know if this is related, but the old 'bash: TMOUT: readonly variable' is back everytime I start a new terminal. the 22mdk version of initscripts corrects most of the problems introduced with 21mdk, but still does not shutdown the machine cleanly. Eric -- John Allen, Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeClub Silver Member.
Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rxvt-2.7.10-3mdk
Am Donnerstag, 4. September 2003 13:30 schrieb Guillaume Cottenceau: Now, there is another reason, maybe even more important: Linux is, as Windows, still too complicated for most users, who tend to ask their friends for support when they have a request. And these friends will surely often ask them to open a console or a terminal and launch whatever command from there. Hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1 is more complicated (and won't work if they want to launch an XFree app). Thus, a terminal program should be installed and easily accessible from the Menu, in my humble opinion (even if one is accessible from MCC, because if the friend is a Debian fan he won't know that). 100% Ack. I just thought that too. Just think of My internet doenst work :( questions. The first things you want to know are things like route -n, ping, lspcidrake -v and important parts from syslog. All that is most easily explained and done on a console. Steffen
Re: [Cooker] urpmi --auto-select just freezes
s [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I can confirm that urpmi seems broken. mine does nothing but sit there when calling up urpmi.update or urpmi. As far as bug report, it doesn't say much/anything, if I'm looking in the right place. in /var/log/urpmi.log all I get is: Thu Sep 4 09:05:53 2003 urpmi called with --bug Thu Sep 4 09:07:49 2003 urpmi called with --bug --auto-select Please type the following 2 lines in a root shell window : urpmi --bug bugreport tar cvf - bugreport | bzip2 -9 bugreport.tar.bz2 and then please send me the file bugreport.tar.bz2 directly to me. François.
Re: [Cooker] what upgrade method is supported and _tested_ ?
Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (François Pons) writes: I will try to make an urpmi update for a lot of distribution, including current urpmi and current perl-URPM, compiled for their respective targets (at least 9.0 and 9.1, I will try to add 8.2). we still have to fix a few issues. eg: rpm.8 man page was in man-pages-fr in 9.1 but will be in rpm package in 9.2. I don't see the point with urpmi ? François.
[Cooker] [Bug 5195] [subversion-client-local] subversion repository format had changed
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5195 [EMAIL PROTECTED] changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|RESOLVED Resolution||FIXED --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-04-09 11:26 --- No, it will work if the repository use the old db schema, numbered 1. If you use svnadmin 0.28 in a old repository, you will see that it requires version 2. This is what cause problem, according to http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/notes/repos_upgrade_HOWTO they do not talk of upgrading from 0.26, or 0.27, but from all old releases. the solution of using svnadmin-0.27 worked for me, i only had to run svnadmin-0.27 recover to restore the base, because there was a problem with libdb4 and libdb4.1. it would be nice to have it inclued in the documentation. http://www.contactor.se/~dast/svnusers/archive-2003-08/0416.shtml http://www.contactor.se/~dast/svnusers/archive-2003-08/0422.shtml Having a message in %post is bad, people using rpmdrake would not be able to see it. -- Configure bugmail: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is. --- Reminder: --- assigned_to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] status: RESOLVED creation_date: description: since subversion 0.28, svn is not able to use a repository created with the old subversion. http://svn.collab.net/repos/svn/trunk/notes/repos_upgrade_HOWTO can a old binary be provided to ease the upgrade, and the conversion after the upgrade ? only svnadmin should be ( statically ? ) build, maybe in a separated package, to not overload the current rpm.
