[courier-users] File system permissions-shared folders of courier-imap
Hi ALL! Box is Debian Etch, courier imap with exim4 mta. Several times I have build shareable folders, but it still working strange. I will try again - last time I'm using the real maildir of a user, and I was not sutisfied with the result. One of the problems that others, using this sahred folder coud not delete messages - links tpo the real messages. A copy of the deleted message is landed in the trash dir but inthe shared folder it is still remain - or better say created again immediatelly!? One of my problem is this centence from the documentation: The sharable maildir owner can arrange for mail to be delivered directly to this folder, and the first one to open it will put the message into cur. OK! - how? In my last try I have used a fake maildir who's new subfolder is a link tho the shared folder's cur subfolder. This arrangement allow me using save command of exim4 through .forward file. Could some one help to cleanup this messy? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] [RE:]File system permissions-shared folders of courier-imap
tovis writes: One of my problem is this centence from the documentation: The sharable maildir owner can arrange for mail to be delivered directly to this folder, and the first one to open it will put the message into cur. OK! - how? Do whatever you need to do with exim to arrange mail to be delivered to that folder. Of course, everyone with access to that folder should have write permission on the folder's new and cur directories. To rename a file, you need to have write permissions on both the source and the destination folders. You do know that, don't you? The documentation does not explain how filesystem permissions work, you should know that already, yourself. If you use system accounts, you need to understand how filesystem permissions work. If you don't, you won't be able to figure out anything, and you should be using virtual accounts. My system is Debian Etch, using courier imap (ver.4.1.1.20060828-5) with exim4 as mta. I have created several user0..n Created regular Maildir for each. Created shared mail directory for user0: maildirmake -S /home/user0/Mailshare maildirmake -s write,group -f daily /home/user0/Mailshare maildirmake --add msg=/home/user0/Mailshare /home/user0/Maildir the rights for .daily/new drwxrwx--T create .forward user0-msg - save $home/Mailshare/.msg 006 swap to user1 maildirmake --add msg=/home/user0/Mailshare /home/user1/Maildir /usr/sbin/sendmail -v [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: test message #0001 test message #0001 . As a result, the message is landed in the right place of the shared folder of user0, but when MUA tries to open shared folder, courier imap said in the syslog failed: Operation not permitted - when try to rename the file in folder new to cur! I have some kind of work around, create a mailfake with new is a soft link right to the cur of the shared folder, but I'm not sure that it would be good. Any ideas? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] filesystem based shared maildir folder behavior
Hi! I managed to establish shared maildir folders several time. Experimented on Debian Etch, using courier-mta, exim4. When email is delivered to the shared folder's new subfolder of the shared maildir, it has owner the recipient of the mail. No other users of the shared folder can not see it before it is moved to the cur subdirectory of shared folder. Thay could try but imap server gives error permicssion denied. That mean new saved emails could be seen anly after the user who is the original owner, move to cur. This behavior is correct? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] Filesystem permission-based shared folders
I'm succesfully(?) managed to setup filesystem-based shared folder. Using courier IMAP from Debian Etch distribution. But I have meet some problems to do this. Given a very small - good for example server, with two users tovis and orsi. They are also members of a group called tovisek, which group have a common space in the home directory: drwxr-xr-x orsi orsi... orsi drwxr-xr-x tovis tovis ... tovis drwxrwsr-x root tovisek ... tovisek In each personal folder I have created an absolute soft link to the shared/common folder to reach common files. (This configuration is working good with SAMBA - every person can read/write permission on hole common area, does not meter who was create the file). As user tovis, I have create shared mail folder using maildirmake: home/tovisek$maildirmmake -S MailShare home/tovisek$maildirmmake -f write,group -s share1 MailShare home/tovis$maildirmmake --add share1=/home/tovisek/MailShare \ /home/tovis/Maildir - here was up my first problem, that in last command I must give absolute path names - in other case I have strange error messages and nothing was done! As user orsi: home/orsi$maildirmmake --add share1=/home/orsi/MailShare \ /home/orsi/Maildir After thease steps, as user tovis I can subscribe, using squirrelmail, to share.share1.share1, but as user orsi I can not do it! OK - it is the file permission problem - and as user tovis I changed whole MailShare group to tovisek and give r,w,x parsmissions. Voila, user orsi can subscribe to the share.share1.share1 folder. Each user can drop/move and of course read/see emails in this folder. I do not really understand what I need to be do to avoid by hand change owner and permissions, when I'm have a special switch to create shared folders, on filesystem permission shared folder? Is it was a good way? - or may be its a kind of vulnerability what I have used. Some what confusing that there is 3 level of nesting in the shared foler: - share share1 share1 ... which is the real folder Is it a problem of squirrelmail? As a user, which is not responsible about how shares are build up why I should have do so many clicks to get contents of a common folder? Is there any method to reduce this? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] courier local delivery domain
Again stuck on what is my domain if I have no real domain but I need local delivery? For now I have only one relay, defined in /etc/courier/smtpaccess/default 127.0.0.1TABallow,RELAYCLIENT,FAXRELAYCLIENT In Default acces policies for couriersmtpd also where two others 10TABallow,RELAYCLIENT 192.168TABallow,RELAYCLIENT but I have been mark them out (may be is it the problem?). /etc/courier/defaultdomain pipi.tovis-lab.myip.hu It's not a real domain, I'm sitting on dynamic IP address, and using smarthost, defined in /etc/courier/esmtproute :mail.chello.hu no authentication required - I think it using hw address authentication. My username tovis - as usually :) When I tried send email to other local user (for exmaple fax) I have SMTP error 517 for [EMAIL PROTECTED] What should be the right domain name for local delivery, in case of no real domain? Could some one figure out what is wrong or missed from my config? Debain Etch. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] courier local delivery domain
tovis wrote: What should be the right domain name for local delivery, in case of no real domain? You may try and configure localhost as a real TLD and machine name in a local view of your local DNS server. I'm not sure it's the easiest way, though. I have no DNS server, I would rather do not use it. It would give the added benefit of caching local queries... I restart the installation/configuration session. When I'm leaving configuration files untouched, I can send emails to local a recipient, if I have use for From: a real email address!? But, when the From: and To: addresses are identical (@pipi.tovis-lab.myip.hu) I have got error 517. May be I need using aliases, for local adresses? What syntax it should follow? Courier has to be able to know that a mail address is local. This is normally done by setting up MX records properly. If no MX records exist for a given domain, but an A record can be found, then that is the host for the given domain. If it is local, mail stays there. Check locals and me in the courier man page http://www.courier-mta.org/courier.html Use testmxlookup to verify you get a [ LOCAL ] flag for your local domain. http://www.courier-mta.org/testmxlookup.html Nice. I try all of these things, also some virtualization, but nothing. Without DNS's MX or A record courier-mta is useless. I checked my old config using exim4 (with courier imap) and it can send emails on smarthost principle from one local user to another, no complain. I have loose about two weeks to have this simple answer :( - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] courier local delivery domain
After my last email I have install courier imap with exim4 as mta - SMTP server. It's working just fine with addresses using @localhost as domain. At last I can focus on creating and using shared libraries. What is the difference between dirs under Maildir with dot and without dot? How should look like a shared folder is based on filesystem permision? Can I address directly a shared folder, under shared Maildir? Can I share Maildir/new, cur - make it visible? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] makemime from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm trying to modify some behavior of courier faxmail. One is my problems, send new fax to apropriate user INBOX. At first time I simply want to make a mime mail message but I always have message that the mail is wrong formatted and lookup RFC822. Of course I can doit, but I need to save some time. Could some one to help me giving the right form of running the makemime command, for a simple test mail which is sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to [EMAIL PROTECTED], content is a simple text, for example: This is a test message #0002 How should be incoked makemime for this simple message? Thanks in advance. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] redirect email to Maildir/fax very lame question
I need a shared/common folder for incoming faxes. I think, that when a new email massge is incoming, it's always landing in Maildir/new folder by imap server(?). When I'm creating a shared Maildir I can not add to others (who need this) the whole shared Maildir, but I've should create a folder (inside shared Maildir) which is would be shared among fax users (for my example). But when I configure new_fax I've should/could give only a username as the recipient. To share the fax -es I need to login, and move messages to shared folder of the shared Maildir. Only if I right, how to get many users to get access (at least read) all faxis (emails)? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] redirect email to Maildir/fax very lame question
tovis writes: I need a shared/common folder for incoming faxes. I think, that when a new email massge is incoming, it's always landing in Maildir/new folder by imap server(?). When I'm creating a shared Maildir I can not add to others (who need this) the whole shared Maildir, but I've should create a folder (inside shared Maildir) which is would be shared among fax users (for my example). But when I configure new_fax I've should/could give only a username as the recipient. To share the fax -es I need to login, and move messages to shared folder of the shared Maildir. Only if I right, how to get many users to get access (at least read) all faxis (emails)? Switch from system accounts to virtual accounts, and use virtual shared folders. Thanks for quick answer! I realized this possibility, but I'm sure that all my users, would have shares. I'm not sure that is it a good choice to make a real and a virtual account in parallel. On first try of fax receiving I realized that to set new_fax provide by courier package I need install also courier-maildrop (it wasn't obligatory before). I quickly lookitup (not deep enough - I'm really confused) but seem to me it can do the job, is not it? PS: I need to reformat my mind. If I only understand well, courier-mta includes an ESMTP server, which could connect with other servers on the net through ESMTP protocol - in my situation it uses smarthost to send my mails, put into the apropriate IMAP folder, using waht ever frontend. Receiving emails, goes using fetchmail, which collect emails from different servers and using ESMTP protocoll relay it to the local users, right to their INBOX controlled by IMAP server. maildrop, sticking between ESMTO server and IMAP server controles this movement, and could do filtering and some kind of redirecting. faxmail subsystem always connect to ESMTP server, as fax -es coming from the net. This roadmap is right? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
On 08 Mar 2008 19:30, tovis wrote: Do you have FAXRELAYCLIENT? Aha! May be this is the missing chain? I'm using Debian (latest stable), which provide me prebuilded packages, what are easy to install and configure. But some times (recommended mta for Debian is exim4) there are some informations skipped. I have no /etc/courier/smtpacces directory at all, I have an /etc/courier/smtpacces.dat - I have been checked it, but I do not now how to convert it back to human readable format. Do you know how to do it? - I'm afraid that whitout the source of smtpacces.dat file I can not recreate it expanded with FAXRELAYCLIENT which I need. Perhaps try a... apt-get install --reinstall courier-mta # dpkg -L courier-mta | grep smtpaccess /etc/courier/smtpaccess /etc/courier/smtpaccess/default /usr/share/man/man8/makesmtpaccess.8.gz /usr/lib/courier/makesmtpaccess /usr/share/man/man8/makesmtpaccess-msa.8.gz /usr/sbin/makesmtpaccess-msa /usr/sbin/makesmtpaccess --markc OK! You win! Same on me, I have directory /etc/courier/smtpaccess with a file called default supplied by author. It contain a raw 127.0.0.1 allow,RELAYCLIENT I create a new file in this directory called default-fax and include only one raw for faxing: 127.0.0.1 allow.FAXRELAYCLIENT run makesmtpaccess but it gives me error Cannot store record for 127.0.0.1 - duplicate or out of disk space. How should look like FAXRELAYCLIENT? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
Finally I succeed to send using email gateway :D Thank you Mark! - you turn me to the right way. There are some miscellanouse configurations to do, but finally it do what I'm awaiting for. I should say, that if I was read the hole documentation I should be gues this, but from other point I simply does not falmiliar with email service and logic of moving emails through it especially the way as courier do it. Again thanks a lot! On 08 Mar 2008 19:30, tovis wrote: Do you have FAXRELAYCLIENT? Aha! May be this is the missing chain? I'm using Debian (latest stable), which provide me prebuilded packages, what are easy to install and configure. But some times (recommended mta for Debian is exim4) there are some informations skipped. I have no /etc/courier/smtpacces directory at all, I have an /etc/courier/smtpacces.dat - I have been checked it, but I do not now how to convert it back to human readable format. Do you know how to do it? - I'm afraid that whitout the source of smtpacces.dat file I can not recreate it expanded with FAXRELAYCLIENT which I need. Perhaps try a... apt-get install --reinstall courier-mta # dpkg -L courier-mta | grep smtpaccess /etc/courier/smtpaccess /etc/courier/smtpaccess/default /usr/share/man/man8/makesmtpaccess.8.gz /usr/lib/courier/makesmtpaccess /usr/share/man/man8/makesmtpaccess-msa.8.gz /usr/sbin/makesmtpaccess-msa /usr/sbin/makesmtpaccess --markc - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
On 08 Mar 2008 21:23, tovis wrote: I create a new file in this directory called default-fax and include only one raw for faxing: 127.0.0.1 allow.FAXRELAYCLIENT run makesmtpaccess but it gives me error Cannot store record for 127.0.0.1 - duplicate or out of disk space. How should look like FAXRELAYCLIENT? I've never used couriers fax utilities but I would asssume it would be something like this in /etc/courier/smtpaccess/default #127.0.0.1TABallow,RELAYCLIENT 127.0.0.1TABallow,FAXRELAYCLIENT Yes! Sorry I was so happy that I forgot the right entry: 127.0.0.1TABallow,RELAYCLIENT,FAXRELAYCLIENT That solved my problem. The README.Debian is talking about that fax facility should be enabled by root, and go to talk about faxrc which is quite unusual configuration script, and do not talk about relaying - I think for package manager it was obviouse. But as I wrote before the courier is not counted in the list of recommended mta's and configuration and setup is not so fined as for them :( where TAB means a real tab character. Test it and look at the logs to see how much further you may, or not, get. --markc - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] courierfax troubles
FIRST: courierfax works good, but the coverpage is quite unusable. English language, english dates, fulish From: iso8859-2SENDER NAME, and a good peace of white, empty paper. No problem, as I think, and remark all lines in /etc/courier/faxcoverpage.tr, but not ther is a white page with a small footprint http://www.courier-mta.org;. I really dos not have anything again this small fottprint, as advertising but with hole page? Is there any possibilities to supress this nice peace at all? SECOND: I can not get FAX transmittion receipt, I'm using couriers sendmail through imap and squirrelmail as frontend. Possible that squirrelmail handles these request wrong way? I do not do anything to configure transmittion receipt, because I do not found any thing about how sendmail command should looklike for courier sendmail, but how to do it with imap? I have tried all two options from squirrelmail, eích of them gives me the result, a small popup window, that the sender ask to confirm reading, on receipt side of used mailbox on other box. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] configuring courierfax + mgetty
2008/3/6 tovis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: couriersmtpd: error, relay=::.127.0.0.1, from=[EMAIL PROTECTED],to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 513 Syntax error This error mean missing valid domain name - but which domain name is invalid, Well, fax obviously is not a domain name. and whre I can set a good one? The place where you set names to translate into IP addresses. This means, I need a DNS server, or it can be the /etc/hosts file? Do not be suprised, I'm use Debian prebuilded binaries, which are also configuring the system. jerry - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
Am 2008-03-03 10:56:19, schrieb tovis: Lookup Debian refernce (9.6.1): ... use exim in Woody and use exim4 in Sarge. ... The only reasonable alternative MTA is postfix if you care about security sendmail and gmail are available as Debain packages but are not recommended: How to understand it? - no Courier counted at all, as it does not exist, but is it also reside in prebuild package. I'm a user, I have not got enough information about security of that or other packages. Please note, that there is currently a rewrite of the debian-reference. OK. I decided to use against this discouriged reference. Sorry, my english is terrible, I do not understand. Courier's faxmail is dependent on courier-mta in Debian package. It's clean that courier-faxmail is relay on courier-mta. My problem that courier-mta + courier-imap + courier-faxmail has much more setup/config to do as apache2 (for exmple), a lots of configuration files, no clean step Not realy... It has only 10 files to configure 10 options... No need to search a 40 kByte config file for the right option... Please read 'man courier' where all files are described on-by-one. From those time, with some help I managed to configure smarthost, simply creating /etc/courier/esmtproutes contain only one raw :mail.chello.hu After this I've set I can send emails. Installed fetchmail, to collect mails from different providers. Here was only one problem, which were solved using smtphost - which was identical to /etc/courier/defaultdomain is contain. I can send/receive receive faxes - front end is apache2 and squirrelmail. For now I have stucked on faxmail. I was deleted the first line from default configuration file /etc/courier/faxrc (rw^ . 1), and check for faxmail, as [EMAIL PROTECTED], but result was an SMTP 513 error. to field is the same as I used for sending email, from field is [EMAIL PROTECTED] - lookup from syslog. What I've should set for faxmail? Is it not a real domain, it's some kind of route which is on localhost. I'm strugling on documentation but I found nothing about fax domain. Usually Debian packages are coming well preinstalled, may be the problem is /etc/courier/esmtproutes what I've set to everiything to my smarthost? Any ideas would be apretiated. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ # Debian GNU/Linux Consultant # Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 ICQ #328449886 +49/177/935194750, rue de Soultz MSN LinuxMichi +33/6/61925193 67100 Strasbourg/France IRC #Debian (irc.icq.com) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] local delivery fetchmail to courier-imap?
tovis writes: couriersmtpd: started,ip=[:::127.0.0.1],from=,to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 513 syntax error. ... fetchmail: SMTP error: 513 Syntax error. ... couriersmtpd: error,relay=[:::127.0.0.1],from=,to[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 513 Syntax error. fetchmail: can't even send to fetchmail! fetchmail: flished Whats wrong? [EMAIL PROTECTED] is an invalid E-mail address, because the domain part, localhost is not a valid Internet domain. You have to do whatever you need to do to stop fetchmail from using such a recipient address. You right! courier smtp do not like his form - exim4 eat it. I looked up fetchmail's documentation and found a workaround using smtphost option in configuration of fetchmail (/etc/fetchmailrc) where I used the same as in /etc/courier/defaultdomain - that solved the problem :) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] configuring courierfax + mgetty
After some strugling around courier setup, I have managed to send E-mails, using courier-mta through smarthost. Also solved the problem with fetchmail. In result I have mailing system with squirrelmail backend working :) For now I need to setup/configure fax send/receive as E-mail, using courierfax with mgetty-sendfax backend. I have been removed the starting rw^, in /etc/courier/faxrc and supress retries in /etc/mgetty/sendfax.config. For first time I have been try to send fax, as usually in Hungary 7 digit coded number: TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SUBJECT: teszt fax #0003 MESSAGE: teszt fax #0003 üzenet I have error 513 from SMTP, what I do not understand for this situation: couriersmtpd: error, relay=::.127.0.0.1, from=[EMAIL PROTECTED],to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 513 Syntax error This error mean missing valid domain name - but which domain name is invalid, and whre I can set a good one? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] local delivery fetchmail to courier-imap?
Debian Etch. Installed courier-mta, courier-imap, apache2 and squirrelmail. Send emails using smarthost, seem to be solved by using /etc/courier/esmtproutes :mail.chello.hu which mean everything should be relayed to my ISP. Install fetchmail, to get mails from different sources, configured using /etc/fetchmailrc, but every times when it found and fetch a mail I have errors: couriersmtpd: started,ip=[:::127.0.0.1],from=,to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 513 syntax error. ... fetchmail: SMTP error: 513 Syntax error. ... couriersmtpd: error,relay=[:::127.0.0.1],from=,to[EMAIL PROTECTED]: 513 Syntax error. fetchmail: can't even send to fetchmail! fetchmail: flished Whats wrong? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
On 3.3.2008 21:10, tovis wrote: I can not find even where I should put smarthost! Google smarthost courier. Reveals for example this jewel: http://archiver.mailfighter.net/courier-users/2007/Sep-Oct/0053.html Really nice! But I have no any files in /etc/courier called esmtproutes! Can stop courier-uucp? - I1m not sure but it seem to me unneeded. esa - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
After setting of smarthost, I have used one of my e-mail address, send a test. Thus is the result: UNDELIVERABLE MAIL Your message to the following recipients cannot be delivered: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: fmx.freemail.hu [195.228.245.2]: 554-ironport2.freemail.hu 554 Your access to this mail system has been rejected due to the sending MTA's poor reputation. If you believe that this failure is in error, please contact the intended recipient via alternate means. For me it's sounds that it is not sended through smarthost :(, is not it? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
I'm running a small SOHO (about 20 users for now), based on a server, running Debian stable with usuall services - samba, apache2 and PostgreSQL. I'm using exim4 (as mta), courier-imap and squirrelmail, for reliable, Why do you use exim as MTA? I run on all of my servers Debian GNU/Linux Etch 4.0 and with courier-mta and courier-imap and it is configured in a very short time. For now I need FAX service, and I found that courier has faxmail module, but it need courier mta. I have been start struggling on courier Please fill a bugreport and telle the Maintainer he should use Depends: mail-transport-agent | courier-mta which mean, courier-fax will a preinstalled MTA or if it does not exist suck courier-mta as dependencie. I doubt that Courier's faxmail module works with any other MTA besides Courier. Regards Racke I'm sure that Courier's faxmail won't work with exim4 MTA. My problem that I'm not so mauch familiar with mail servers, and documentation on http://www.courier-mta.org/install.html is about manuall installation of the Coutier server - a complex full featured mailserver, what I'm do not need. This documentation quite frighten me, and I'm try to get some information that do it will good for me to go through this long installation procedure, to have a simple, smarthost based mta. I know that Debian prebuilded Courier's IMAP server is very simple to setup/configure, as the exim4 for this purposes also do not need high efforts. By the way I have some answers, which help me to decide that is it should be good for me, need some more efforts for setup than usually. For now I'm modelling the server and realized that Courier mta, imap and faxmail has a lot of configuration files (for first look it's more then apache2), which I need to understand. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
I'm running a small SOHO (about 20 users for now), based on a server, running Debian stable with usuall services - samba, apache2 and PostgreSQL. I'm using exim4 (as mta), courier-imap and squirrelmail, for reliable, Why do you use exim as MTA? Lookup Debian refernce (9.6.1): ... use exim in Woody and use exim4 in Sarge. ... The only reasonable alternative MTA is postfix if you care about security sendmail and gmail are available as Debain packages but are not recommended: How to understand it? - no Courier counted at all, as it does not exist, but is it also reside in prebuild package. I'm a user, I have not got enough information about security of that or other packages. I run on all of my servers Debian GNU/Linux Etch 4.0 and with courier-mta and courier-imap and it is configured in a very short time. For now I need FAX service, and I found that courier has faxmail module, but it need courier mta. I have been start struggling on courier Please fill a bugreport and telle the Maintainer he should use Depends: mail-transport-agent | courier-mta which mean, courier-fax will a preinstalled MTA or if it does not exist suck courier-mta as dependencie. Sorry, my english is terrible, I do not understand. Courier's faxmail is dependent on courier-mta in Debian package. It's clean that courier-faxmail is relay on courier-mta. My problem that courier-mta + courier-imap + courier-faxmail has much more setup/config to do as apache2 (for exmple), a lots of configuration files, no clean step by step instruction how I need to be setup/config a smarthost based mta, which is (I hope) knows courier IMAP. PS: Generally, in many situations I should trust to this descriptions, because no reliable description of how to check setup/configuration. Tipical example mail delivery subsystems. I'm sure that these checks are much more complex than setup/config itself, and guys from Debian do it, know it, much better and deeper then me. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consultant - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
In your situation I would write small script called from .forward (or whatever your MTA uses) which would get attachments and process them with hylafax (or whatever you intend to use as fax server). I went this way even I use courier-mta for mail handling -- courier's faxmail was not powerfull enough for my purposes. Can I ask why? What are you missed? I'm using Debian Etch - mgetty, mgetty-fax. I found some suspiciouse informations that courier is use netpbm pack - g3topbm and pbmtog3 from that packagedoes not work for mgetty - I checked out. I think it could be worked around. -- Aidas Kasparas IT administrator GM Consult Group, UAB - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
tovis wrote: tovis wrote: In your situation I would write small script called from .forward (or whatever your MTA uses) which would get attachments and process them with hylafax (or whatever you intend to use as fax server). I went this way even I use courier-mta for mail handling -- courier's faxmail was not powerfull enough for my purposes. Can I ask why? What are you missed? I needed to send faxes with modems located in different cities. And had only very old computers to handle these modems. And for some reason (do not remember why) I preffered hylafax over mgetty-fax. So, it was more simple to use one central mail/fax server with number of modem-handlers in remote places than to setup network of mail servers what each take care to handle incoming mail, format conversion and modem. Really special situation - if I only understand it well - you have several modems, in several cities, each of them connect to very old boxes, and you built up a server on another place, sending emails to those old boxes which are sends the real faxes - amazing! but possible. All true except I do not send mails to these boxes. Instead hylafax has protocol for submitting faxes to remote boxes. I use it. Your choice is better! - mail delivery protocol is quite an information blackhole. I have choose mgetty, because it is a much more old realization then Hylafax, and seem to me is quite simple. Small amount of configuration files, and practically two apps mgetty and sendfax. Additionally, courier does not use mgetty's spool mechanizm but his own mail pool is used - faxrunqd start/stop daemon script includes some kind of timeout about 60 sec(!) - is it quite painfull for UPS. Fortunatelly my situation is quite simple against this :) I need a FAX server to send faxes from an office, where working about 20 person with different boxes and OS's on them (Windows, Linux). Also need to get faxes (in 99% of situation) from a so small country such as Hungary. This is implemented in Lithuania. And according to wikipedia, Hungary is bigger :) Population: hu 10M, lt 3.4M Area (sq.km): hu 93k, lt 65k Yes, that's it! Some years ago one of my clients bought a a multifunction laser printer/copy/fax from a well known american manufacturer, but from many far places in Hungary they can not receive FAX's, because of the quality of connection - huge/large/small depend on many factors. -- Aidas Kasparas IT administrator GM Consult Group, UAB - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
As I suspected :( I can not find even where I should put smarthost! - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
On 3.3.2008 21:10, tovis wrote: I can not find even where I should put smarthost! Google smarthost courier. Reveals for example this jewel: http://archiver.mailfighter.net/courier-users/2007/Sep-Oct/0053.html Thanx! I will try this. esa - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
- Eredeti üzenet - Tárgy: courier is good for me? Feladó: tovis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dátum: Csü, Február 28, 2008 11:19 Címzett: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I'm running a small SOHO (about 20 users for now), based on a server, running Debian stable with usuall services - samba, apache2 and PostgreSQL. I'm using exim4 (as mta), courier-imap and squirrelmail, for reliable, platform independent mailing system, with some help for group work. I do not want to build a fully featured mail server, I'm using exim4 through smarthost, fetchmail is getting incoming mailes. This configuration works fine for several years, and it was simply to install/configure. For now I need FAX service, and I found that courier has faxmail module, but it need courier mta. I have been start struggling on courier documentation and realized that is it a large and complex mail server package, with a lots of configuration issues and possibilities. Try google to find a more simple setup howto - I do not find any for my situation. May be courier is not good for me? - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
Setup exim4 as a smarthost using mta on Debian called as zero setup. There is small shell/perl questionary ned to answer about ten questions. - using smarthost, incoming emails are coming through SMTP or fetchmail - host name for mail susbsystem - listening interfaces for incoming SMTP connection - no one - other recipients to accept to - no one - other senders from relay - no one - name of the smarthost - strip local names from mails - yes - local users domain name - myserver - minimalize DNS requests - no - Also need to firgure out what directory to use for (maildir_home) - Setup smarthost password - some email addresses - courier imap does not need any setup!? Thats all :) Recent about squirrelmail, apache2 and fetchmail. I lookup the http://www.courier-mta.org/install.html - I have seen it but it was quite terrify - work for days and continouse maintenance. Hi. First: I never used the fax module, so I have no clue if this might be what you want. On Thursday 28 February 2008, tovis wrote: I have been start struggling on courier documentation and realized that is it a large and complex mail server package, with a lots of configuration issues and possibilities. Try google to find a more simple setup howto - I do not find any for my situation. May be courier is not good for me? I don't really have much experience with other MTAs, but most parts of the default configuration can be used as-is. Just because many things are possible, this does not mean that you need or want them. The default config will do just fine for many people. Especially if you don't use incoming SMTP (and so don't have to worry about IDENT lookups, blacklist configuration, greylisting or thinks like that). Have a look at http://www.courier-mta.org/install.html. More than half of the chapters are marked OPTIONAL and that is meant like that. :) The sections about configure/make/install (Everything from Preparing for installation up to Post-installation checks) should be obsolete if you have packages from your distro. Can you specify which part of the installation docs is complex if you leave out things you don't need? regards, Bernd -- Only one book has been printed in more copies than The Bible... ...the IKEA catalogue - Song Facts of Life by Lazyboy - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] [Fwd: courier is good for me?]
Right. The answer for me, it is good for me but of course not some much obviouse to setup then exim4 on Debian. I should do some jb, but the result would be apropriate :) About the maintenance I do not mean only updates/upgrades - Debian do it very well, mostly automatic security updates are does. I mean about blacklists, filters and other stuff top be safe - that no one will use my small server as a spam spreading/colleting box. Thanx Bernd I hove my next questions will so quckly answered as this :) Hi. On Thursday 28 February 2008, tovis wrote: Setup exim4 as a smarthost using mta on Debian called as zero setup. There is small shell/perl questionary ned to answer about ten questions. Well, 10 Things to configure is not zero, isn't it? Maybe the Debian developers did a good job to write a script and set up your answers as config file options. They've chosen exim4 to write this for. Technically, I think the work should be kind of equal to do this setup with exim4 or with courier. If you relay on debian's script, okay, courier is out beacuse they've not written this script for courier. I lookup the http://www.courier-mta.org/install.html - I have seen it but it was quite terrify - work for days and continouse maintenance. Setting up a courier smarthost like you did it with exim took me about an hour or so (made a stupid mistake, that costs time) a few weeks ago. If you, as a beginner, have to read the docs twice, let it be 5 hours of work. But it's not work for days. Contionus maintainance (say: security upgrades) should be the basic work for all applications if you run anything connected to the internet. If you don't want that, you'd better leave it. regards, Bernd -- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are different. - Larry McVoy - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
