[Coworking] Re: Coworking Management Tool

[Wayne Maceyka]

Lars:

Good questions. I'm gathering some of the info you're referring to. I'm 
wagering that the desire to manage the back end/ops may not be the same 
across spaces. For those, just getting going, something "off the shelf" 
might be helpful. Heck, promoting to engage potential members is not always 
top of mind or possible depending upon the space manager/owner/team's 
bandwidth.

Also, the potential to attract visitors that are not familiar with shared 
office/coworking concept, for the spaces that want to be part of it, could 
be helpful.

I've received 0 input so far on tools. Hmm.

Wayne 

On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 7:50:12 AM UTC-4, lhtorres wrote:
>
> Curious to hear Wayne: what are the conditions that make it a good 
> opportunity to share a space management tool - what are the specific 
> benefits you see of these spaces using the same tool? In other words, what 
> specific problem(s) are you looking to solve? What elements of the member 
> experience can be made more fantastic by this technology?
>
> Also, do you have data on the relative size of each space, and how much 
> does membership size inform our technology choices?
>
> On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 9:21:07 PM UTC-4, Wayne Maceyka wrote:
>>
>> Hello! There are a few small spaces here in VT that are in similar phases 
>> of “starting” and it feels like a good opportunity to share a space 
>> management tool to allow focus on community and facilitate fantastic member 
>> experience - and easily interconnect the spaces for current members and 
>> prospective members. Do Cobot and Nexudus help attract new members? How 
>> does Proximity Space stack up? I like their white label commitment, 
>> maintaining each space’s identity (VERY important in VT!) while reaching 
>> more people. 
>>
>> Thank you!
>
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[Coworking] Re: Coworking Management Tool

[Wayne Maceyka]

Hello! There are a few small spaces here in VT that are in similar phases of 
“starting” and it feels like a good opportunity to share a space management 
tool to allow focus on community and facilitate fantastic member experience - 
and easily interconnect the spaces for current members and prospective members. 
Do Cobot and Nexudus help attract new members? How does Proximity Space stack 
up? I like their white label commitment, maintaining each space’s identity 
(VERY important in VT!) while reaching more people.

Thank you!

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[Coworking] Re: Sharing space with another company

[Wayne Maceyka]

Hello Julia;

Barbara makes great points.

We're investigating a similar arrangement in our small town of Hinesburg, 
VT (population 4,800). In our case, the current tenant has reduced 
headcount and wants to monetize the extra space. Given the small market, 
finding the right subletter will be a challenge for them, so, we're 
planning to propose a revenue share model - they generate income that goes 
right to the bottom line as we fill the space and we cover costs of 
programming and other things. Most importantly, we're not signing a lease, 
which is the biggest risk in small rural markets.

That said, having a clearly defined "Operational agreement" will be 
crucial, kitchen responsibilities, noise levels, access hours, etc. even if 
the spaces are somewhat separated. In our case, there's a lot of overlap, 
so part of what we do will be creating space for the employees and our 
members to connect - and - offering our programming to the employees as an 
added value to the agreement.

Kindly,
Wayne

On Saturday, March 10, 2018 at 10:43:50 AM UTC-5, Julia Ferguson wrote:
>
> We were approached by a local company who recently moved into a really 
> cool old industrial building and signed a lease for more space than they 
> need. They've offered us a sublease of half the floor (about 4000 sq ft), 
> which is nicely divided from their space by a wall. On most days they only 
> have 5-10 people in working, so our 46 (and hopefully growing) members 
> would significantly outnumber them. Our members would walk through a shared 
> hallway, then turn left into our space so they would not have to walk 
> through the other company's workspace to get to ours. The representative we 
> are talking to says they are open to just about any financial arrangement.  
> It almost seems too good to be true - almost. We currently own our building 
> and the entire building is used by our coworking community, so this would 
> be a big change. We're concerned about a loss of identity from being in 
> someone else's space. We also not used to having to check with others when 
> we want to do something to our space. Has anyone done anything like this 
> and, if so, can you offer some pointers?
>
> Julia Ferguson
> Cowork Frederick
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[Coworking] Re: Kitchens/kitchenettes

[wayne]

Makes complete sense. An interior designer I worked with on a preliminary 
sketch for a space that did not work out conveyed the importance of a 
centralized kitchen area for exactly the reasons you mention. Thanks!

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[Coworking] Kitchens/kitchenettes

[wayne]

Hey there;

Is some form of a kitchen/kitchenette absolutely necessary? What's the best 
square footage to dedicate to this amenity?

Thank you!
Wayne
www.hinesburgHUB.com

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[Coworking] Re: Happy Coworking Day! + The Global Directory of Women Owned Coworking Spaces

[wayne]

Hello all;

TY for your great feedback. That's exactly what I was hoping to learn and it 
makes complete sense, minus the use of the word "manpower". Ha! :-)

Totally agree that I need help pulling this off. 

Kindly,
Wayne
HinesburgHUB

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[Coworking] Re: Happy Coworking Day! + The Global Directory of Women Owned Coworking Spaces

[wayne]

This is great.

As I'm building the community for our space in small town Hinesburg, VT 
 I'm noticing that fully 70% of our facebook 
fans are local women. That might be related to the use of facebook overall, 
and I think there's more there. It's great.

So, I'm noodling on having a future Pop-up Coworking Day that's Women Only, 
maybe in October Here's what were doing in 2 weeks 
http://vermontcoworking.eventbrite.com

What do you think? How might I approach this? Is this a good idea?

On Wednesday, August 9, 2017 at 7:48:35 PM UTC-4, Iris Kavanagh wrote:
>
> Happy Coworking Day to all of us. It's hard to believe we are 12 years 
> into this amazing ride. Thank you to everyone, across the world, who are 
> changing lives and communities every day through your work. I have so much 
> love for you.
>
> Also, I wanted to say that Women Who Cowork has launched our website 
>  and updated the Global Directory of 
> Women Owned Coworking Spaces 
> .
>  
> If you are a female founder and haven't joined us, please do! We'd love to 
> list you in our directory, you can fill out this form 
> 
>  
> and we will add you. 
>
> Female operators, community managers and founders are all welcome to join 
> our Facebook group , where 
> we've got a great community of women sharing ideas and expertise. 
>
> And of course, we love our male founders, operators and community managers 
> too! We invite you to like our FB page 
>  and follow our progress there. 
>
> Love to all!
>
> Iris
>
>
>

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Re: [Coworking] Making the local press

[wayne]

Thanks for the great comments. A local radio station has reached out to me too. 
I agree on all points, that "earned media" is one part of the plan. 

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[Coworking] Making the local press

[wayne]

Hey there;

Couple things. Out third Pop-Up coworking day in our town of Hinesburg made 
the front page of the local paper. Wow! 
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/money/2017/07/26/co-working-country-hinesburg-church-hosts-digital-nomads/509298001/

So, any tips on making the most of this? Right now, I'm concurrently 
working on the biz plan and connecting with possible location owners / 
co-developers, and building an active community of people that want to help 
make this happen.

Our next event is 8/22. So, if anyone happens to be in the Burlington, VT 
area then, come and visit! http://vermontcoworking.eventbrite.com.

Kindly,
Wayne Maceyka
@hinesburgHUB

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[Coworking] Re: Shared office / childcare / eldercare

[wayne]

Matt;

Is that your space? Do you already offer childcare and eldercare?

Yes, our town in 4800, on a major commuter route in our county (about 11,000 
cars/day). Small. 

Still, we're in an aging state and one that's losing population, we need new 
ways to attract and retain the younger generation and serve the aging, and the 
elder caregivers. 

- Wayne. 

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[Coworking] Shared office / childcare / eldercare

[wayne]

Hello;

I've been researching and planning a shared office space for my hometown of 
about 4800 people in VT. Along the way, I've noticed the fusion of coworking 
and childcare and childcare with eldercare. I'm a member of the "sandwich 
generation", caring for children and elders concurrently. With the rise of 
remote work and the gig economy and the aging of America, is there another 
match here? Here's one stat:

"the number of seniors is growing. In 2010, one-sixth of the adult U.S. 
population was older than 65; by 2030, about one-fourth will be."

It occurs to me that creating a community "HUB" with shared offices, childcare, 
and elder residential and adult daycare would be a unique intergenerational 
place for the next 10 years. 

Anyone working on this?

- Wayne 

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[Coworking] Approaching building owner to be coworking members v. having their own separate space

[wayne]

Hey there;

I've been working to get a coworking space off the ground for the past year 
or so. Recently, a new space popped back up on my radar screen as a 
possibility. As an architect models the potential layouts and member 
possibilities, I'm realizing something. If the building owners, who plan to 
inhabit a part of the space, were amenable to being *members *of the 
coworking space, or at least sharing the area they had reserved for them 
with the greater community, it would make the space work better for a 
variety of reasons, AND could benefit them with cross-pollination, 
innovation, etc.

So, they might not pay a membership, or a smaller fee, and have access to 
all the programming, snacks, coffee, etc. that the coworking members have. 
Perhaps they could have priority access to the meeting room on their side 
of the "office".  They'd also have smaller or different dedicated offices 
than maybe they envisioned.

Hmm.

Any ideas?

- Wayne Maceyka
HinesburgHUB (in development)
Hinesburg, VT
www.hinesburgHUB.com

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Re: [Coworking] Re: "Corporate Memberships"

[wayne]

Jen: 

I'm going down this path. Will you be at the GCUC in 2 weeks? 

Kindly,
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To: Coworking <coworking@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [Coworking] Re: "Corporate Memberships"
Sent: Nov 01 '16 8:28am

I think that offering flexible workspace definetly benefits employees,
we are seeing more and more articles on the topic especially in terms
of health and happiness. Plus a shortened commute time and monetary
savings will increase employee happiness and therefore reduce turnover
(one of the biggest costs to employers). 

https://www.fastcompany.com/3064755/work-smart/study-finds-work-life-balance-could-be-a-matter-of-life-and-death


I would even suggest reaching out to come of these companies that have
higher commuter populations and sending them education about coworking
and its benefits! 

Best of luck! 

On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 1:58:14 PM UTC-6, wa...@renewacycle.com
wrote: 

> Hello; 
> 
> I'm in the pre-launch phase and think this could be a good way for
> us to diversify our membership ecosystem, provide a service to
> employees and employers, and bring people that drive through our
> town on their regular commute _into_ our town. So, part of the
> pricing model is defining the value to the stakeholders. 
> 
> What's the loaded cost for an office space for an employee? Does
> offering flexible workspace benefit the employer in terms of
> employee retention, exposure to new ways of thinking, and opening up
> space in their existing facility? 
> 
> In our case, we're a small town of only ~5,000 people, BUT we're on
> the main N-S commuter route with heavy traffic in the AM and PM. We
> think there's value in offering another space to people to save them
> time and help them do the things they want to do instead of driving.
> Oh! and I've been doing some math on the cost of commuting and it's
> insane, hundreds of dollars/mo in Operating costs and TIME. 
> 
> There will be an educational component to this, clearly. One of our
> competitors is inertia and habit. Coworking is new for many people,
> so they don't even know they need it yet. ;-) 
> 
> On Monday, December 30, 2013 at 7:10:24 PM UTC-5, Kelly Fitzgerald
> wrote: 
> 
>> Hi All- 
>> 
>> I launched Society of Work (SOW) in Chattanooga, TN in September
>> of 2013. We've been pleased with our growth and have a lot in
>> store for 2014! One of the things we are working on is partnering
>> with local companies on memberships. More definitively, we have
>> several incubators/venture capital groups who are out growing
>> their space (who also happen to be in close proximity to us). We
>> are talking with these groups about a type "corporate" membership
>> (for lack of a better name at this point) where anyone from the
>> incubator or company can work at SOW. They are able to give their
>> employees a flexible way to work and contribute to SOW and we are
>> hoping to learn from their businesses as well. We see it as a
>> win-win. 
>> 
>> However, I am sort of stumped when it comes to a pricing model.
>> There are also some larger corporations who have expressed
>> interest in order to give their employees flexibility and freedom
>> from their standard cubicle farms. I have thought through a couple
>> of ideas, but I don't think I have come up with the right answer
>> yet. Has anyone put together a pricing model for something like
>> this? I have looked at several models, but I don't see anything
>> comparable- but maybe it's just not listed on people's website? 
>> 
>> Any suggestions or recommendations would be helpful. 
>> 
>> Kelly

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[Coworking] Community Kick off

[wayne]

Hey there;

At long last we're having a get together of folks interested in the space I'm 
working on at a local restaurant that's helping get this going. It's an 
afternoon 
of working in their space, followed by a "meet & greet" where I'll share a 
vision for what we're building, share preliminary membership levels and 
amenities, and solicit feedback. Then, we're welcome to hang out and eat / 
imbibe 
together.

Any thoughts on how to make thins first connection the best it can be? 
Event is next Tuesday 3/28, http://hinesburghub-kickoff.eventbrite.com

Thanks!

Kindly,
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Hinesburg, VT
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[Coworking] Re: Connecting Cowork Creators

[wayne]

I'm game. There's energy here in VT to connect the existing spaces and in 
development spaces AND I'm realizing there's much I can learn as I run down 
the path of creating a space in my hometown. Also, seeing the potential to 
build out the network and connect with other independent spaces in New 
England and upstate NY.

On Friday, November 4, 2016 at 9:27:09 AM UTC-4, 
ch...@thecoworkconsultant.com wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm thinking of creating a network/mastermind group for people who OWN or 
> are STARTING coworking spaces (max 12 individuals - for now)...
>
> I've seen a few threads about connecting coworking spaces for members of 
> the coworks...BUT...
>
> What about a network for people who are creating coworking spaces? The 
> model I have in mind will allow us to talk about the pitfalls, systems to 
> implement, and how to build a culture? 
>
> We learn alot from one another and I'm not seeing many resources for those 
> of us who are creating cowoking spaces...besides trial and error (which can 
> be VERY expensive and time consuming - I know:)).
>
> The intention of the group I'm proposing will be to discuss the method 
> I've used to develop and launch coworking spaces and to connect with other 
> cowork CREATORS. Woo hoo!!!:)
>
> Format will be;
>
>- Group call model which I facilitate via screen share. 
>- See and discuss my process. 
>- Collaborate and connect with other people in similar coworking 
>situations.
>- 3 month timeline
>- 1 hour call/screen share every 2 weeks (6 sessions)
>
> Would anyone be interested in something like this?
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any feedback,
>
> Chris
>

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[Coworking] Re: "Corporate Memberships"

[wayne]

Hello;

I'm in the pre-launch phase and think this could be a good way for us to 
diversify our membership ecosystem, provide a service to employees and 
employers, and bring people that drive through our town on their regular 
commute *into* our town. So, part of the pricing model is defining the 
value to the stakeholders.

What's the loaded cost for an office space for an employee? Does offering 
flexible workspace benefit the employer in terms of employee retention, 
exposure to new ways of thinking, and opening up space in their existing 
facility?

In our case, we're a small town of only ~5,000 people, BUT we're on the 
main N-S commuter route with heavy traffic in the AM and PM. We think 
there's value in offering another space to people to save them time and 
help them do the things they want to do instead of driving. Oh! and I've 
been doing some math on the cost of commuting and it's insane, hundreds of 
dollars/mo in Operating costs and TIME. 

There will be an educational component to this, clearly. One of our 
competitors is inertia and habit. Coworking is new for many people, so they 
don't even know they need it yet. ;-) 

On Monday, December 30, 2013 at 7:10:24 PM UTC-5, Kelly Fitzgerald wrote:
>
> Hi All-
>
> I launched Society of Work  (SOW) in 
> Chattanooga, TN in September of 2013.  We've been pleased with our growth 
> and have a lot in store for 2014!  One of the things we are working on is 
> partnering with local companies on memberships.  More definitively, we have 
> several incubators/venture capital groups who are out growing their space 
> (who also happen to be in close proximity to us).  We are talking with 
> these groups about a type "corporate" membership (for lack of a better name 
> at this point) where anyone from the incubator or company can work at SOW. 
>  They are able to give their employees a flexible way to work and 
> contribute to SOW and we are hoping to learn from their businesses as well. 
>  We see it as a win-win.  
>
> However, I am sort of stumped when it comes to a pricing model.  There are 
> also some larger corporations who have expressed interest in order to give 
> their employees flexibility and freedom from their standard cubicle farms. 
>  I have thought through a couple of ideas, but I don't think I have come up 
> with the right answer yet.  Has anyone put together a pricing model for 
> something like this?  I have looked at several models, but I don't see 
> anything comparable- but maybe it's just not listed on people's website?
>
> Any suggestions or recommendations would be helpful.
>
> Kelly
>

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Re: [Coworking] Re: Creating interest in coworking in small towns

[wayne]

Fantastic comments; 

Yes. Inertia. A challenge. I'm currently in renewable energy, and
helping people go solar illustrates that inertia. Heck, I'm a perfect
example. 

I'd add the "Hectic Parent" to the commuter profiles. Our potential
space is easily accessible to the local grammar school, high school,
and day care center. 

What's the value of making that parent-teacher conference or that
soccer game? As you said, what are the problems they're facing and how
might it be solved with a local 3rd space workplace. 

Emotion. Story. People. Connections. Then back up with data. 

Kindly,
 Wayne Maceyka
 Hinesburg, VT
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 Subject: Re: [Coworking] Re: Creating interest in coworking in small
towns
 Sent: Oct 24 '16 4:33pm

> So, 5 years later from this post, what's changed?

Remarkably little, I'd wager! Coworking is a bit better known -
there's more examples to point to, better support systems for new
aspiring spaces, and _lots_ more examples of what not to do! 

> I'm guessing, to attract commuters, one will need to educate them on
> the value of NOT commuting.

Well, I'd caution against this approach, especially when you're the
one selling the alternative. ;) Rational arguments for trying to get
people to want to join a coworking space rarely stick, and instead
feel like you're trying to guess the right magic incantation to make
people suddenly "get coworking." 

I wrote a bit about this before in an answer to the question "what's
the smallest size bedroom community that can support a coworking
space" but here's a fresh take including some of the additional
research I've done and observations I've made. 

I always think about this a bit like Netwon's Laws of Physics: an
object at rest stays at rest, an object in motion stays in motion. 

In this context, I think of commuting as a habit. Even when people
can't stand it, they're _used to_ getting in the car every morning and
going somewhere. They've built their entire lifestyle around it. 

The question I'd be asking is...who does that lifestyle NOT work for,
and why? 

I can think of a few examples off the top of my head: 

* PROFESSIONALS WHO ARE NEW TO THE AREA, OR RETURNING AFTER HAVING
BEEN AWAY FOR SOME TIME. Its a giant pain in the ass to try to land
somewhere with no network and try to build it when that network is,
for the most part invisible. 

This translates across all city sizes, too. I've helped people move
from tiny towns to big cities to find a coworking community that fits
their goals and values, and the same process in reverse. 

* "SECOND CAREER" EXPLORERS. This is one of my favorites, the folks
who've spent 10, 15, 20 years or more in a career and decided "you
know what? My quality life is more important than this grind. I'm out.
I'm gonna figure out what's next. 

I got to watch my mom do this over the last decade and it's been
_awesome, _but I've also gotten to welcome a lot of folks into our
community who are so thrilled to find a place that isn't "all young
startup founders" but instead a place that welcomes them in as a peer.


* INTERNAL OUTSIDERS. People who work for companies because it earns
them a wage and makes their family comfortable, but they feel like an
outsider at their company. _Don't underestimate this audience._ Job
dissatisfaction can feel like a terminal disease, but adding coworking
into the rotation can help people take the edge off and find things to
explore. 

E.g we have a member who commutes nearly an hour to Indy Hall (there
are coworking spaces closer) because the job he has is stable but soul
sucking, stifling his creativity. He comes here because even if it
doesn't help him do is job better (he's not especially motivated to,
frankly), being a part of our community helps him stay happy by giving
him a creative outlet and people to connect with. In a way, we're the
coworkers he wishes he had. 

The common theme across these examples are people who are already in
motion, as per the laws of physics like I mentioned above. There's no
convincing necessary...they're already looking for something better,
even if they don't know exactly what they're looking for. 

Even then, the goal isn't to educate them on coworking. It's build
relationships. I can't stress that enough. I spent an entire chapter
of my audiobook (chapter 2, _"Just the two of us"_) going over how I
did this in an urban setting, but going through it again in the last
week since I'm editing the transcripts for the e-reader edition, I can
say with quite a bit of confidence that my approach wouldn't change in
a small town other than some of the specific gather plac

Re: [Coworking] Re: Creating interest in coworking in small towns

[wayne]

Great comments here. Gotta go and get it. 

So, 5 years later from this post, what's changed? I'm guessing, to attract 
commuters, one will need to educate them on the value of NOT commuting. 
I've been researching commuting costs and it's insane. Between the auto 
wear-and-tear and the time (assuming an hourly rate equivalent to the 
person's wage) it's thousands/year, in my case, WAY more than the annual 
cost of the coworking membership. That said, coworking is still new, and 
commuting has been part of our culture since the past WWII boom, so folks 
need to be told about it. 

There's an emotional component here. For people that drive an hour round 
trip, with a family or other things close to home they'd like to do, what's 
the value of more easily getting to a kids' soccer game or a friend's 
dinner party? Ditching that time spent in the car for either productive 
work OR being with friends/family. 

I'd say that part of your outreach and market assessment is to meet with 
the employers themselves to understand their needs and concerns. The trends 
underlying the rise of remote work (high speed web, younger folks more 
comfortable with amorphous work/life overlap, sharing v. owning, etc.) are 
not going away. The way we work has changed, and the way we "office" is 
catching up.

Oh! And there are environmental benefits too. And, both the employer and 
the employees can claim that for personal satisfaction and marketing. Here 
in VT, that's important. 

On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 at 10:33:53 AM UTC-4, Alex Hillman wrote:
>
> Tip #1: Go outside.
>
> This isn't the field of dreams, it's a new business, which means you need 
> to go out and find your customers. They don't know they're looking for you.
>
> Normally, I'd suggest walking into a cafe or bookstore, look for people on 
> laptops. Go say hi. Don't sell them on coworking, instead, have genuine 
> interest in why they're working in a cafe or a bookstore. Find out what 
> problems that solves, and what problems still exist. But since you're 
> looking for commuters, you need to figure out where they hang out - and 
> then hang out there.
>
> Get involved in the local community. Be a friendly face, a supporter and a 
> connector. Get known as the person who people want to be around to get 
> things done - and be known as the person surrounded by people who get 
> things done.
>
> -Alex
>
>
>
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:05 AM, CK  
> wrote:
>
>> You could title this reply "Bought the furniture, built the web site,
>> hung the sign - now what?"  We too are finding it difficult to get
>> traction in a small town, although in our case our proximity to a
>> decent size metro area led us to believe that there were people
>> commuting into the city that would find they preferred to work here
>> (Anoka, MN) instead.  Mark - we're interested in your article too.
>> Niki - we've been considering trying several ideas that you mention
>> but I think for us part of the challenge is that we are trying to draw
>> in commuter traffic rather than "locals" that live/work in the small
>> community where we are located.
>>
>> We don't have much available to spend on advertising or the like, but
>> if folks have found that a particular formula seems to work well, we
>> would certainly put some money behind it.  Any suggestions on where to
>> put our scarce dollars?
>>
>> CK
>>
>> On Sep 13, 10:54 am, "Mark W. Kidd"  wrote:
>> > Hi Niki,
>> >
>> > I've been involved in some of the same kinds of conversations in small
>> > communities, and I've got a forthcoming article which is my attempt to
>> > synthesize what I've learned about how to talk about rural coworking.
>> > I'll send you the manuscript off-list.
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Mark
>> >
>> > On 9/13/2011 11:37 AM, Niki wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > I look forward every day to seeing what new posts show up here.
>> > > Everyone is so interesting and seems to be so knowledgeable about
>> > > coworking. I want to thank you all first for giving of your expertise
>> > > and time. I ran an executive suites in Washington, DC years ago that
>> > > really had the soul of a coworking space. We had parties, networking
>> > > events, meetings, and fun. It was great and I loved every minute of
>> > > it. However, due to life circumstances, about three years ago (right
>> > > in the middle of the economic implosion) my husband and I moved back
>> > > to Michigan where my parents live and where I grew up. Boy is life
>> > > different here! I've tried for three years (in different iterations)
>> > > to create a business here (education/training programs, virtual
>> > > assistant, etc.) with the newest being a shared desk/cowork center.
>> > > It's in a small town (there are such organizations in some of the
>> > > larger cities but most people have no idea what I'm talking about);
>> > > when I share the 

[Coworking] Re: How To Fund Your Coworking Space

[wayne]

Alex;

I continue to find your answers and inputs valuable and written in a way 
that does not cats judgement. Thank you.

Wayne
HinesburgHUB Coworking+ (In development)
wa...@hinesburghub.com
www.hinesburgHUB.com (yes, this needs a lot of work, I'm no web designer)

On Wednesday, September 28, 2011 at 1:57:20 PM UTC-4, Alex Hillman wrote:
>
> One of the most common questions I see on this list and in private 
> inquiries, other than "how do we market our new space", is "how do we fund 
> the opening of our coworking space"?
>
> Sometimes the question is indirect, in the form of business planning 
> questions, that are clearly aimed to fulfill investor questions. 
>
> Almost every time, the person asking the question about how to fund the 
> space hasn't done any of the legwork to find members yet. I believe that 
> this isn't only a mistake for the community and the business, but it's an 
> active attempt at delaying the inevitable work of having to find members 
> until you don't have a choice - a dangerous place to be making *any* kind 
> of decisions. 
>
> I'd like to propose an alternative path and its benefits, based on our 
> experiences launching and continuing to run Indy Hall.
>
> http://dangerouslyawesome.com/2011/09/how-to-fund-your-coworking-space/
>
> -Alex
>
> /ah
> indyhall.org
> coworking in philadelphia
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[Coworking] Introduction - The Hive Co-Working Business Accelerator

[David Wayne]

Hello All,

I'm David and I've actually been with the group since 2011.  Truth be told 
I didn't much use this email account until I got myself a smart phone here 
a number of months ago and I needed a google account for that phone.

I'm currently living in Joplin Missouri. I've just returned from Los 
Angeles, California after a prolonged stay in Tinsel Town.

I'm working with a group of entrepreneurs who have a co-working space in 
the form of The Hive in Downtown Joplin, Missouri. Google Joplin the hive 
and will lead you right to us. I got involved and picked up the ball to get 
people involved.

We are also looking at pricing for shared space, a virtual office, and 
dedicated single offices.

Thanks and look forward to any suggestions.

David Wayne 

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Re: [Coworking] Experienced Community Manager looking for position in CA

[David Wayne]

Is this something you have to do in California or can you do anywhere in
country from California?
On Sep 3, 2014 6:30 PM, Tiffany Jones tiffmariejo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 My name is Tiffany Jones—I am currently the Community Manager for Creative
 Colony http://www.creativecolonyspaces.com, a coworking space for
 creatives in Silver Spring, MD, just outside of Washington DC. I am moving
 back to California in November 2014 and would love to continue my career in
 coworking as I am passionate about connecting people and building strong,
 resilient communities.

 I have been involved with Creative Colony from the very start—writing the
 business plan, finding space, overseeing the buildout, and meeting with
 community members to garner support—all the way to now—being open for 6
 months and learning the nuts and bolts of running a successful space.

 If you or anyone you know has a need for a Community Manager, please email
 me and I can send you my resume.

 Thanks very much!

 Cheers,
 Tiffany Jones

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Re: [Coworking] Abridged summary of coworking@googlegroups.com - 5 updates in 4 topics

[David Wayne]

Hello,

I was planning to visit Phoenix for a business trip and noticed the
discussion about your location. Please send me info necessary to get in
touch on the ground. Thanks
On Jul 16, 2014 11:28 AM, Becky H Smith, Ed.D. bsmith...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I actually worked in CO+HOOTS in Phoenix and loved it.  I visit the area
 often as my family is there. Thumbs up!!  Becky


 On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 2:15 AM, coworking@googlegroups.com wrote:

   Today's topic summary

 Group: http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/topics

- Coming to Scottsdale, Arizona
#147406eca147de00_146dc6524889cad0_group_thread_0 [2 Updates]
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- Nuevo Espacio de Coworking en Ensenada Baja California Mexico
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- Coworking in Siem Reap (Angkor), Cambodia
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   Coming to Scottsdale, Arizona
 http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/t/eb021efb01fcdb9a

Kristin Romaine kris...@cohoots.com Jun 20 01:33PM -0700

CO+HOOTS in Phoenix. We are on 10th st and Washington. Let me know if
you
need an UBER car to get you here! We would be happy to send one for
you
and to show you around. :)
...more
http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/msg/71880182ce3ffd12

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Jess Roth j...@cohoots.com Jun 20 03:19PM -0700

Hi Aaron!
I would love for you to come check out CO+HOOTS while you are in AZ.
We are
in downtown Phoenix, not too far from Scottsdale. Here's our website
event
page: https://cohoots.com/events ...more
http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/msg/3927ecf16bb1ae43

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   Exchange program
 http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/t/d1ef951691582a05

Kristin Romaine kris...@cohoots.com Jun 20 01:39PM -0700

We have actually established a nonprofit arm at CO+HOOTS in Phoenix
and are
looking to get donations of airfare and lodging to support coworking
both
nationally and internationally. ...more
http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/msg/b8ba4100be1fe336

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   Nuevo Espacio de Coworking en Ensenada Baja California Mexico
 http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/t/a0d48482b8c929fe

Michel Martinez michel@gmail.com Jun 24 11:54PM -0700

hola me llamo Michel Martinez tengo un mes que abrí un espacio
coworking en
Ensenada Baja California, www.hubcenter.com.mx me esta costando mucho
empezary jalas miembros, casi no conocen el ...more
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 http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/t/9ff2f886c0d87c83

Jeff TheFlame jflafla...@gmail.com Jun 26 04:38AM -0700

I've been a silent reader but I wanted to say HELLO COWORKING

My name is Jeff and couple of months ago, after months of backpacking
and
trying to be a digital nomad, I've started the AngkorHUB ...more
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[Coworking] Re: Coworking Salt Lake City

[Robert Wayne]

slcOFFICE.co

On Saturday, October 1, 2011 8:39:47 AM UTC-6, Robert Wayne wrote:

 We are proud to announce a hip new cowork office coming to downtown 
 near the Gateway. If you are looking for a desk please reply. We are 
 leasing 3800 sqft space for work, conference, kitchen and lounge 
 areas. 

 The space has a shower. I'll provide a masterful espresso machine. 
 It's tip-top –the space and the espresso.

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[Coworking] Coworking Salt Lake City

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We are proud to announce a hip new cowork office coming to downtown
near the Gateway. If you are looking for a desk please reply. We are
leasing 3800 sqft space for work, conference, kitchen and lounge
areas.

The space has a shower. I'll provide a masterful espresso machine.
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[Coworking] Re: Nerd Fort Accidentally Opens in the San Fernando Valley

[David Wayne]

Welcome to the COWORKING world, both vitrually and on the ground.  I'm
currently in Fresno but you've opened up near where I was last
living.  I look forward to looking you up when I return to SOCAL.

David

On Feb 14, 10:42 am, Greg Knauss g...@eod.com wrote:
 First lesson: Be careful with your marketing, because it can get away from 
 you.

 Earlier this week, I put up thehttp://nerdfort.comsite while I continued to 
 build out the small physical space I have.  (520 sq. ft., eight or nine 
 desks, small conference room.)  On Sunday, it got discovered by Hacker News 
 and Reddit, and garnered nearly 200 comments, most of them encouraging.  
 Better, it's resulted in half a dozen e-mails from people who are interested 
 in coming by.  Nerd Fort is not-for-profit, in that I'm just hoping to have a 
 community to hang out with while I work on my real business, but I honestly 
 didn't expect this.

 Second lesson: If you're marketing to nerds, include zombie references.

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[Coworking] Re: ANOTHER IDEA FROM MY CRAZY HEAD

[David Wayne]

Hello Blair James Gordon

I'm David and I'm currently located in Fresno, California.  If you're
not familiar, Fresno has the reputation of being a slow-developing,
back water town.  I'm working on the idea of COWORKING but there's not
much going on around here yet.

In regard to your suggestion about Coworking Radio show, I come from a
music background playing guitar in bands and that sort of thing.  I've
got a digital recorder which makes recordings - if not broadcast
quality for the recording afficionados - will be suitable for internet
broadcasting or podcasting.  In addition, I've done a number of
interviews (recorded but not broadcast quality) so I'm kind of adept
at interviewing.  So I have the capability of making broadcast quality
interview recordings which would end up in a digital format for
whatever distribution is desired.

In addition, I've purchased my first camcorder and I'm planning to
start making films which can be uploaded. I've already got one such
film uploaded, and this was a practice film.  I have the capability to
do video editing and I'm intending to upgrade the editing software at
my first opportunity.

I'm able to contribute to your idea of a coworking radio show but
obviously I'm remote and I'm not entirely sure how any actual
collaboration would take place.

Let me know what you think.

David

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[Coworking] Re: Fwd: how do we cope with our clones?

[David Wayne]

If I may chime in on this point, I see COWORKING as something that
produces value other than money. I think a lot of the problem with our
current economic condition is the fact that everybody thinks that if
they start doing something, as in providing a service or product, they
are supposed to become wealthy as a result of it.  That's the whole
gist of privatization where they (supposedly) are turning over
responsibility for services to private individuals. My take is that as
long as government sides with the mega-businesses, that leaves a lot
of people out in the cold left to fend for themselves.  I see
COWORKING as a method of individuals and (super)small groups to band
together and defray the common costs of doing business.  I think that
should be the first principle shared by anyone going into a COWORKING
situation.  I'm not sure that this addresses the actual subject being
discussed, but I wanted to chime in here.  David

On Feb 1, 7:30 am, Liu Yan liuyan.dat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Coworking isn't a big money-making business.  I believe the person who
 started the coworking in Beijing has no intention to make quick money
 and huge profit. So it really doesn't make any sense to consult a
 lawyer to sue him. To be honest, we can't even afford it.

 I believe there is a dialogue needed between us and the clone. We want
 to let him know that we don't hate our competition and we want to find
 a way to collaborate if we share values in common. However, it is
 necessary to have a few guidelines in mind for people like him who
 sees the value in our model and content and want to use it. So my
 questions really are: what should be those guidelines?

 Thank you in advance!

 在 2011年2月1日 下午9:05，Michael con@gmail.com 写道：





  If you have made your model and content on the website is at this
  moment pretty much open sourced and licensed under Creative Commons
  then i am pretty sure they can't legally copyright it right? This may
  be the wrong place to be asking though because copyright in China is
  definitely different to the rest of the world! Why not consult a
  lawyer, otherwise just don't worry about it.

  On Feb 1, 7:08 pm, Liu Yan liuyan.dat...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hi there,

   Recently we found out that someone in Beijing has used the text of our 
   website both in Chinese and English, design and slogan literally word 
   for word in his website. We are happy that there is another(second) 
   coworking space being established in China and they like our model. But 
   at the same time, we think it should be a way to regulate this kind of 
   sharing.

   For example, Our model and content on the website is at this moment 
   pretty much open sourced and licensed under Creative Commons, but the 
   people who copied and pasted our content put everything under their own 
   copyright. Meanwhile, we are worried that this kind of clone or 
   look-alike effect might put our branding and reputation under risk.

   Any idea how to cope with this?

   Liu Yan 刘妍
   CEO/Co-founder
   Xindanwei 新单位
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[Coworking] Greetings - New Member to COWORKING

[David Wayne]

Hello everyone:

My name is David and I've joined the group at the first of the week.
I've been reading the posts since then.  I think this is my second
post if I'm not mistaken.

I'm in Fresno California and I'm looking to make contact with people
that want a coworking situation.  I have access to an office situation
and I basically need the people who want to come share.

On a more general note, I think the idea of coworking is a sign of the
future.  I've been thinking of doing such a thing before I was aware
that anyone else was even thinking about it - let alone already doing
it.  The condition of US economics is that people like me - a single
person trying to make a living by his own devices - are looking at a
completely uneven playing field.  The deck is stacked against me in
favor of the Enrons and Worldcoms of this world, and we all know what
happened with them.

I think it is critical for people who are able to make a living for
themselves to join forces in a common cause.  We may not be working
for each other, but we can certainly work WITH each other.  Such a
strategy is going to advance all our causes - finally getting all
those metaphorical boats rising together.

I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for the government to do
things for me.  I've always considered the politicos to be out of
touch anyway, and with current technologies literally at our
fingertips, the politicos are coming into clearer focus showing us
exactly what they are - irrelevant.

That's my rant for today.  Let me know if I can be of any assistance
to anyone.

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[Coworking] Coworking in Los Angeles or Central California

[David Wayne]

Hello All:

I'm David and I'm currently hailing from the great state of
California, Fresno to be precise.  I'm from Los Angeles and I have
plans/designs to return their at my first opportunity.

I'm looking to make contact with anyone in the Los Angeles area who
are interested in a coworking situation.  Anyone who is familiar with
Los Angeles and the environs is aware that location means everything.
While Los Angeles is a very compact place if you look at the map and
geography, the presence of 20 million or more people has to be
factored in when discussing proximity.

I have previously lived in the South Bay area, which is Manhattan
Beach, Hermosa Beach, and Redondo Beach.  I have also lived in Sherman
Oaks and Woodland Hills.

Making contacts with people in those locals would be helpful in
deciding where to live next once I return.

Otherwise, I'm also looking for people who are located in Fresno and
are interested in coworking situations.  As it happens, I have the
availability of an available space at more than reasonable prices with
all the necessary requirements.

Thank you.

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