[CTRL] Options In Health Care -- Emergency Alert! PLEASE HELP

1999-10-02 Thread Dave



If 
you are interested in the right to make your own decisions about your healthcare 
options, this might be a good time to begin to take a stand. It's time that the 
large number of Americans who are disenchanted with government malfeasance in 
favor of large pharmaceutical firms make themselves heard. We cannot afford to 
remain silent while alternative medical researchers are rounded up and jailed, 
and while herbs and other simple, inexpensive and safe alternatives are 
suppressed or even criminalized in order to safeguard the profits of Monsanto, 
Searle, Ciba, Novartis, and other purveyors of poisons  
biotech/biowar.
Pressure is being brought to bear in many arenas of 
government. 
Speak now - or
Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart
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subjectImportance: HighOptions In Health Care -- Emergency Alert! 
PLEASE HELPWhat constitutes healing? Who is deciding what 
constitutes healing and what are they basing their decisions 
on?70 year old Dr. Hulda Clark, Ph.D., N.D. has been arrested 
and is being held in a facility in San Diego, CA, awaiting extradition to Brown 
County, Indiana. She has been charged with practicing medicine without a 
license by the District Attorney's office of her former place of residence. 
Dr. Clark, best known for her books The Cure For All 
Cancers and The Cure For All Diseases, as well as for her invention 
of the "Zapper," has been a public figure intently dedicated to spreading 
knowledge of healing techniques, and going against conventional medicine's 
monopoly on health care. Her arrest is an example and a warning to 
all Americans of the problem we collectively face: a health care system with few 
real options for treatment, fueled by greed, and fraught with criminality. 
There is substantial indication of possible systematic suppression of 
alternative therapies that threaten the interests of conventional medicine. 
There is an underground railroad of people in this country who have 
dedicated their lives to health and healing, and to the fight for freedom for 
real options in health care. Increasingly, these people who are in truth 
trying to help people, are being persecuted by a system which arbitrarily 
decides what is effective and legal treatment. These decisions often seem 
to be based on what is clearly profitable, as in pharmaceutical companies and 
their drugs, rather than what may be the most beneficial. 
(*Indiana law states effectiveness of treatments is not a defense. 
Does this help the public?*)More and more people in this country 
are becoming highly disillusioned with our health care system, and for very 
valid reasons. It is not enough to await slow and cumbersome legislation 
on the national level, which is unlikely to address the real issues. Dr. 
Clark's troubles represent but a small part of a gross problem in this country, 
and bring us to a higher platform. It is time to ask the most pertinent 
questions.What constitutes healing? Who is deciding what constitutes 
healing and what are they basing their decisions on? Why do we have so few 
real options in health care? Why are people who are going against the 
grain, and trying to establish footing in alternative rather than conventional 
medicine, more and more often finding themselves in trouble? Why are 
herbal supplement companies faced with regulation by the FDA that puts a 
stranglehold on their industry? Why are people who are selling health 
products on the Internet increasingly being investigated?What 
organizations are being formed by our government to enforce strict, impossible 
and arbitrary regulations, and to ensure a monopoly on health care? (If you 
have any information regarding this issue please write ASAP). WE NEED 
YOUR HELP. If you are familiar with Dr. Clark's work, and would like 
to support us in her defense, the following are ways in which you can 
help.1) We will need as many letters and phone calls as possible. 
If her research has benefited your health, please help us by sharing this 
information. Addresses and phone numbers to follow in second 
post.2) There is going to be a hearing for her on Monday morning in San 
Diego. We are asking everyone who wants to support Dr. Clark, and is able, 
to come to the courthouse at 220 W. Broadway, downtown San Diego, 2nd floor, 
Department 12, 8:35am Monday October 4. Please join in the fight 
for freedom in health care!If you 
feel you are being unfairly attacked or investigated for your work in health 
care, and are willing to share your story, please write. If you have any 
information or evidence suggesting unethical connections between the FDA and 
pharmaceutical companies, please write. If you work in the health care or 
herbal supplement industry, and are facing regulations that would effectively 
stifle your work, please write. If you have 

[CTRL] Hemp birdseed bust Customs under pressure, acted on phony info from DEA

1999-10-02 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
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 ARTICLE:  For the Birds: Hemp seed bust infuriates locals
  AUTHOR:  Janet Wells, Sonoma County Independent, Vol. 21, No.
19
DATE:  Friday, 1 October 1999, at 10:15 a.m.



Kevin Roth, the executive chef at the Coup Restaurant in New York,
says, "Hemp seed-crusted tuna is our best selling dish. To say that
we’re serving a controlled substance is outlandish.”

Pubdate: Sept. 30-Oct. 6, 1999 - Sebastopol-based Nutiva, which brokers
and distributors imported hemp products used for a booming consumer
market, is reeling from a U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency seizure of
a tractor-trailer full of Canadian hemp seed. In addition to the August
seizure of sterilized grain on its way to a U.S. Company that sells
bird seed blends, the DEA demanded that the Canadian supplier, Kenex,
recall previous hemp products or pay more than $500,000 in fines.

Sterilized hemp seed, says Nutiva president John Roulac, is heated
to 212 degrees for at least 15 minutes, so the seeds will not germinate.
"It's a legal product,” he says. "The 1937 tax act exempts sterilized
[hemp] seed, oil, or meal.”

While it is illegal to grow hemp in the United States because it contains
trace amounts of the federally controlled drug in marijuana, the DEA
has provided no legal basis for confiscation of the imported load,
says Roulac.

Despite support from legislators, including Virginia Strom-Martin,
whose bill to legalize industrial hemp recently was approved by the
California State Assembly, Roulac has had to lay off one employee
and cut back on hours in response to what he calls "intimidation”
of Canada's largest hemp processor.

"They are trying to cut off the raw material supply,” he says. "If
they can intimidate and shut down the biggest player, the other companies
will be intimidated.”

One of Roulac's customers, Kevin Roth, the executive chef at the Coup
Restaurant in New York, says, "Hemp seed-crusted tuna is our best
selling dish. To say that we're serving a controlled substance is
outlandish.”

U.S. Customs Department spokesman Dean Boyd says that customs inspectors
in Detroit called the DEA about the hemp seed after looking at the
shipment's paperwork, and were instructed to seize the load.

"By doing our job we've walked into a political minefield,” says a
beleaguered-sounding Boyd. "You wouldn't believe the calls we're getting
on this. Our role was based on the legal advice provided by the DEA.
We're obligated to hold it. It' costing us a lot to keep 39,000 pounds
of birdseed.”

   

 ARTICLE:  Hemp Bar Company under Gun from DEA
  AUTHOR:  Matt Weiser, Press Democrat
DATE:  Friday, 1 October 1999, at 10:27 a.m.



"This is coming right at a time when our sales are exploding,'' said
John Roulac, president of Nutiva. "You can't get high on hemp seeds.
People are buying our bar because it tastes great and because of the
nutritional benefits.''

Pubdate: Sep. 30, 1999 Sebastopol Firm Fighting Fed Order

 A Sebastopol company must forfeit its inventory of hemp-based food
products after it was found to contain traces of the active ingredient
in marijuana, federal drug enforcement agents said Wednesday.

Sebastopol-based Nutiva says it was on the verge of runaway success
with its new hemp-seed-based nutrition bar, a rival for the likes
of Powerbar and other snack foods. It had hoped to capitalize on growing
public interest in the health benefits of hemp, driven in part by
a burgeoning hemp products industry that is largely based in Sonoma
County.

But now the company is struggling to fend off the U.S. Drug Enforcement
Agency, which has recently focused on the growing trade in hemp seeds
for food and health products.

"This is coming right at a time when our sales are exploding,'' said
John Roulac, president of Nutiva. "You can't get high on hemp seeds.
People are buying our bar because it tastes great and because of the
nutritional benefits.''

The Nutiva bar is made in Canada using hemp seeds produced by Kenex
Ltd., an Ontario firm that bills itself as North America's leading
supplier of industrial hemp products.

On Aug. 9, a shipment of Kenex hemp goods was seized in Detroit by
U.S. Customs officials, who determined from shipping manifests that
the goods did not meet America's zero-tolerance policy for
tetrahydrocannabinol,
or THC, the euphoria producing active ingredient in marijuana, hemp's
botanical cousin.

THC is a controlled substance under U.S. law and is not allowed in
commercial products.

The Kenex shipment contained less than 10 parts per million of THC,
the allowable limit under Canadian law and an amount the industry
says could never produce a marijuana-like "high.'' Nutiva, the broker
and importer for Kenex products in the western United States, says
nutrition bars made from Kenex seeds are the 

[CTRL] FW: CALL TO ARMS, war on alternative health

1999-10-02 Thread Dave

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forwarded

Dave Hartley
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The following message is forwarded to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 03:55:07 +0200
From: "Dr. Clark Assn." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CALL TO ARMS

URGENT: Dr. Hulda Clark -- Call To Arms

What has happened to Royal Raymond Rife, Dr. Burzynski and other pioneers
in medicine has finally happened to Dr. Hulda Clark.

On September 20, Dr. Hulda Clark was arrested in San Diego. She is
presently held in a prison in Santee, waiting to be extradited to Indiana,
where she is charged with "praciticing medicine without a license", a
class C felony facing 2-8 years in prison.

The patients in her clinic in Mexico, most of them terminally ill and
getting better under Dr. Clark's supervision, had to be sent home to try
and do the protocol on their own.

WHAT YOU CAN DO

Every week I receive several testimonials from patients who praise the
work of Dr. Clark and say how much it has helped them. You have a chance
to make yourselves heard now. There will be a hearing on Monday and we
want to present as many testimonials and protest letters as we can. You
too can be a part of this. Write an email to

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoffrey Clark)

with your protest letter and/or testimonial with copy to

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

All the letters (hundreds are already on the way) will be used to present
to the authorities on Monday, and to the press that will be present also.
They must understand that we do not tolerate this kind of suppression of
information that saves lives.

We have decided to turn this into something positive and teach the
suppressors a lesson, like it has been done in the Dr. Atkins case. We are
working day and night now to make this happen (it is 3:24am as I am
writing this). But only grass roots support - meaning YOU - can help us do
that.

FURTHER INFORMATION AND ACTION

As of next week, the domain www.freedrclark.com will update you on the
case and tell you what you can do to help Dr. Clark be free and proceed
with her research that saves lives daily. As long as the domain is not
workable yet you will find information on www.drclark.net as of Sunday.

www.freedrclark.com will tell you what other actions you can take to help
Dr. Clark, like addresses of the officials involved. Also you can make
donations to support this effort. It is now needed more than ever before.
You can already make donations on the membership form on www.drclark.net
- Dr. Clark Research Association - Become a member. Just add "court
case" in one of the fields so that the donation will be allocated
correctly.

Counting on you
Sincerely
David P. Amrein
President, Dr. Clark Research Association

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[CTRL] A POWERFUL ANTI DRUG WAR ORGANIZATION IN MINNESOTA

1999-10-02 Thread Dave
Title: War on "Drugs"



http://www.gzmn.org/v011.htm

Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart

  
  


  
  War on "Drugs"
  

  
  
  


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  CAUSES OF WAR

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AGENCIES

  ENVIRONMENT

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RESOURCES

  US GOVERNMENT DATA

  ECONOMICS

  ASSASSINATIONS  
  CONSPIRACIES

  MIND CONTROL RESEARCH

  CIVIL LIBERTIES, USA

  HUMAN RIGHTS, GLOBAL

  WAR 
ON DRUGS

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  War on "Drugs"
  
  The war 
  on "drugs" is really a war on people who use drugs, mainly poor people, 
  and on civil liberties precious to almost everyone. This distinction has 
  profound and complex consequences. This war is a well intentioned war in 
  many respects, prompted by obvious and usually legitimate fears about 
  urban decay and social distress. But the casualties of this war have been 
  profound; they number in the tens of millions of lives destroyed or 
  gravely damaged even for a relatively benign drug like marijuana. And like 
  every war, there comes a time to call it off.
  Many studies have shown that the main reason for 
  the explosion in the American prison populations is incarceration of 
  non-violent drug offenders. This has some profound racial and class 
  dimensions.
  For example, 1/3 of young black males in America 
  today are under some kind of judicial supervision, either prison or parole 
  or court mandated treatment or sanctions of various kinds. No one objects 
  when a murderer is caught and jailed, but the fact is that many of those 
  young men of various colors have had their lives ruined by vigorous 
  application of the War on "Drugs," while the mostly wealthy and mostly 
  white higher level dealers very seldom get caught, or if caught, get 
  prison time. The bankers who launder the money, the accountants who keep 
  the books, and the lawyers who advise them almost never "do time" for 
  "their crimes."
  Consider the extraordinary and bizarre dynamics 
  which occur when you look at the details. For example, Federal penalties 
  for 5 grams of crack cocaine (mandatory minimum sentence = 5 years) are 
  essentially 100 times more severe that for powder cocaine (where 500 grams 
  are required to get the mandatory minimum 5 years jail). Thus, rich, well 
  connected white wholesalers can bring in pound quantities of cocaine 
  powder, yet be at far less risk of criminal sanction than the poor young 
  black retailers who are asked to "rock it up" into crack 
  cocaine.
  Our book On the Causes 
  of War has a short chapter devoted just to the War on "Drugs" 
  because its consequences are so profound, yet so insidious due to the 
  general appreciation for the bad things drugs can certainly lead to, and 
  lack of appreciation for how much of the violence associated with drugs is 
  a byproduct of making them so illegal. For another example, the Attorney 
  General of Colombia has remarked that the war on "drugs" in America kills 
  thousands of people in his country every year, due to its weird 
  distortions and hypocrisies (of which CIA drug running is merely the most 
  obvious).
  There are many good reasons to fear drugs, 
  especially given the dozens of varieties which modern times bring us. But 
  ...
  There are also many better ways to fight violent 
  crime, than by criminalizing scores of millions of non-violent people by a 
  swarm of dietary laws, and indirectly making many potential witnesses to 
  murder, rape and other violent assaults afraid to testify due to their own 
  vulnerability to prosecution because of drugs. Retaliation from gangs is 
  fearful enough for many witnesses, without the added disincentive of 
  risking all should police or prosecutors turn against you.
  The international consequences of the War on 
  "Drugs" may be as profound as any American national consequences. By 
  criminalizing this consentual behavior, and insisting that other countries 
  do the same, America provides about a $500 billion dollar per year annual 
  windfall profit to the "narco-trafickers." They have close connections to 
  the international market in weapons, and both have close connections to 
  the banks which service this underground part of the "global economy." The 
  result is close connections to many more overt wars, and to corruption of 
  governance on a global 

[CTRL] Nixon declared war on drugs, cancer...

1999-10-02 Thread Dave

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Dave Hartley
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http://www.ioa.com/~davehart



http://www.canceranswer.com/chemotherapyreport.htm
In 1971 Richard Nixon announced the
   War on Cancer,
and promised a cure by the 1977 bicentennial.
In each of the 25 years since, more Americans have died of
cancer than the year before.
http://www.canceranswer.com/ralphmoss.htm
We have had 50 years of American Cancer Society
(ACS) brainwashing on the question of cancer, so most
 people out there believe we are making progress in the
war on cancer. We are not, we are
 losing
   the

war.




Twenty years ago I was hired at Memorial Sloane Kettering
(MSK) cancer centre in New York as the science writer, later
promoted to assistant director of public affairs. Shortly after
I went to work there I went to visit an elderly Japanese scientist,
Kanematsu Sugiura, who astonished me when he told me he
was working on Laetrile (B17), at the time it was the most
controversial thing in cancer, reputed to be a cure for cancer.
We in public affairs were giving out statements that Laetrile
was worthless, it was quackery, and people should not
abandon proven therapies. I was astonished that our most
distinguished scientist would be bothering with something
like this, and I said why are you doing this if it does not work.
He took down lab books and showed me that in fact Laetrile
is dramatically effective in stopping the spread of cancer. The
 animals were genetically programmed to get breast cancer
and about 80 - 90% of them normally get spread of the
cancer from the breast to the lungs which is a common route
in humans, also for how people die of breast cancer, and
instead when they gave the animals Laetrile by injection
only 10-20% of them got lung metasteses. And these facts
were verified by many people, including the pathology
department.
LL: So this is verified, that Laetrile can have this positive effect?
RM: We were finding this and yet we in public affairs were
told to issue statements to the exact opposite of what we
were finding scientifically, and as the years went by I got
more wrapped up in this thing and 3 years later I said all this
in my own press conference, and was fired the next day,
"for failing to carry out his most basic job responsibility"
-- ie to lie to the public what goes on in cancer research.
You better not smoke and then most of the lung cancer
won't happen, but that is one example  of how the tobacco
industry has infiltrated the medical establishment. The
bigger thing is the industrial interests. If you look at the
board of MSK you will find the who's who of the petro-
chemical industry. Why are  they there? Again, very little
research is done on the effect of chemicals in causing
cancer. We know that is probably one of the main things
that causes cancer -- petro-chemical pollution. But that
is denied. Of course it's denied, because the people who
are paying the bill and directing cancer research have a
vested interest  in keeping the scientists away from that
area, and keeping them focused on DRUG cures, things
that can be patented, marketed and so forth, and the FDA
is in total collusion in this.
LL: If there was an even playing field some of the alternative
therapies would shine.
RM: The Japanese are not afraid to look at things that are
non-toxic. Here we will look at natural things as long as
they are more toxic than chemotherapy. We don't want
any competition. It would be unfair competition to have
a less toxic drug than chemotherapy because everyone
would then flock to the less toxic drug.
LL: What is really sick is the industry leaders value their
bottom line more than the well being and life of people.
RM: Yes, because we have set up a situation where it costs
hundreds of millions of dollars for a new drug. Once you
have got a situation like that you have got to have a patent
on the drug.
LL: We know that natural substances cannot be patented.
RM: If you want to change it, you change the law that
establishes the need for double blind clinical studies in
drugs. You eliminate the efficacy clause from the Harris
amendment to the food and drug act, which Harris
himself didn't even want. This was imposed by the FDA
and the drug industry. This upped the ante and made a
regulatory barrier. Now instead of it taking 1 million dollars
to establish the safety of a drug, you now need 300 million
dollars. So none of the small inventors, or the people with
good ideas can ever hope to possibly hope to get their drugs
approved. They put you in administrative limbo where the
best you ever hope to get is this backburner simmering kind
of thing, and I know of a number of good scientists who have
got IND's (Investigative New Drug Applications) to test
drugs, but when you try to market the drug they will put you
out of business, and Dr. 

[CTRL] [Fwd: [prj] The charter for global democracy

1999-10-02 Thread Nicola Molloy

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Fri, 01 Oct 1999 21:27:13 -0400
"Mark A. Smith" wrote:




The charter for global democracy
  http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_lamb/19991001_xchla_the_charte.shtml
 
  The charter for
  global democracy
 
  
 
  By Henry Lamb
  © 1999 WorldNetDaily.com
 
  In less than a year, the United Nations will convene a special Millennium
  Assembly as a global summit on the future of the world. This event will crown
  a decade of preparation to launch the new millennium on a new system of
  global governance. The blueprint was published by the Commission on Global
  Governance in 1995. Now, a Charter to achieve global governance has been
  developed for presentation at the Millennium Assembly next September. It will
  be published publicly on UN day, October 24th.
 
  It is called The Charter for Global Democracy. It has already been signed by
  influential leaders in 56 nations, and has the support of civil society
  non-government organizations around the world. The document is, in reality, a
  Charter for the abolition of individual freedom.
 
  The first of 12 principles calls for the consolidation of all international
  agencies under the direct authority of the United Nations. The second
  principle calls for regulation by the UN of all transnational corporations
  and financial institutions, requiring an "international code of conduct"
  concerning the environment and labor standards.
 
  Principle number 3 demands an independent source of revenue for the UN, such
  as the "Tobin tax" and taxes on aircraft and shipping fuels, and licensing
  the use of the global commons. The "global commons" is defined to be "outer
  space, the atmosphere, non-territorial seas, and the related environment that
  supports human life."
 
  Number 4 would eliminate the veto power and permanent member status on the
  Security Council. Number 5 would authorize a standing UN army. Number 6 would
  require UN registration of all arms and the reduction of all national armies
  "as part of a multilateral global security system" under the authority of the
  United Nations.
 
  Principle number 7 would require individual and national compliance with all
  UN "Human Rights" treaties and declarations. Number 8 would activate the
  International Criminal Court, make the International Court of Justice
  compulsory for all nations, and give individuals the right to petition the
  courts to remedy social injustice.
 
  Principle 9 calls for a new institution to establish economic and
  environmental security by insuring "sustainable development." Number 10 calls
  for the establishment of an International Environmental Court.
 
  Number 11 calls for a declaration that climate change is an essential global
  security interest that requires the creation of a "high-level action team" to
  allocate carbon emission based on equal per-capita rights. Principle number
  12 calls for the cancellation of all debt owed by the poorest nations, global
  poverty reductions, and for "equitable sharing of global resources," as
  allocated by the United Nations.
 
  As preposterous as these ideas may sound to freedom-loving Americans, most of
  the world considers them to be an improvement over their current
  circumstance. The fuel that fires the global governance movement, however, is
  not the desires of oppressed people, it is the money supplied by the
  well-to-do elite who feel the need to "do something" to help the less
  fortunate people of the world. The strategy for advancing the movement is
  supplied by those who expect to control the machinery of global governance.
 
  It is no coincidence that financial contributions in support of the Charter
  for Global Democracy are to be made to the London office of United Nations
  Association.
 
  Dozens of documents, all promoting some form of world government, have been
  circulating for most of this decade. All contain these same principles. The
  Millennium Assembly will receive these documents and meld them into the legal
  instruments required to modify the existing UN Charter. It will take a year
  or two for the legal documents to be prepared and adopted, and another year
  or two for ratification. The world is truly standing at the threshold of
  world government.
 
  Woodrow Wilson brought the world to the same threshold nearly 80 years ago;
  the United States decided not to enter, and the League of Nations collapsed.
  Once again, it is up to the United States to determine the future of the
  world. If the United States embraces this Charter for Global Democracy, the
  world will be subjected to global dominance by the United Nations. If the
  United States opts out, the world may be spared centuries of inevitable
  oppression.
 
  There is no issue of greater importance in next year's election than where
  each candidate stands on global governance and national sovereignty. So far,
  this issue 

[CTRL] [Fwd: SNET: Correct ABC Bio War - What have feds planned for us Citizens andPatriots????]

1999-10-02 Thread Nicola Molloy

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 Dear Citizens, Patriots, Veterans, et al:

This post is a very important one mainly because the New World Order elite
 would-be, wanna-be total-world rulers have finally advanced their plans so
 far forward that they are just now acknowledging publically on a
 nationwide-worldwide prime-time five episode television mini-series that the
 federal, state, county, and city governments are preparing for horrifically
 devastating biological warfare attacks against up to 120 major cities in the
 United States of America.

   Why, Clinton even had the feds pick out the cities and has published and
 publicized the names of these cities for all of the world to see as being the
 most populated or most militarily strategically oriented cities in the U.S.
 It's like Clinton is saying: "Hey, all you numbskull international
 terrorists, you-all come here and blow up or attack THESE cities, won't'cha
 please?"

   Why?  Well, because Clinton is just itching for an excuse to declare a
 national emergency and to invoke martial law and to suspend the Constitution
 of the United States, thereby removing all protections and rights from us
 citizens.  Then he can fulfill his purpose and objective set out beforehand
 by his NWO puppet-masters and immediately plunge us into the elites' much
 sought after totalitarian New World Order.

Clinton has been attempting for the past six years to provoke middle
 eastern international terrorists into attacking the citizens of America with
 NBC or Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical warfare and weapons of mass
 destruction by (Clinton) pummelling the middle eastern Islamic sovereign
 nations with violent attacks from U.S. military Cruise-Tomahawk radioactive
 spent-uranium warheaded missiles.  Then he has had his "spin-masters" cry out
 plaintiffly "Oh, no!  If we attack the Islamic Terrorists, then they will
 send out their international terrorists to attack the good citizens of these
 United States in retaliation.

Notice how they NEVER, NEVER mention attacking the government officials,
 but ONLY the innocent citizens???

 To their credit, the Islamics have NOT responded to Clinton's provocative
 overatures and WAR CRIME ACTS, so that is why Clinton (the U.S. puppet of the
 cannibal-300 Builderberger ghouls, New World Order wanna-be world rulers) is
 presently training new FBI-CIA-NSA MK-Ultra Mind Control automaton-assassins
 to perpetrate these NBC Biological attacks against us citizens in the very
 near future.

Don'tcha know that that is why the feds have been merely practicing and
 learning how to commit gorey and the most horrible and heinous acts of
 violence against our nation's children by training "Manchurian Candidate"
 style MK Ultra Mind Control assassins to blast their brains and hearts out
 with bullets from guns?

Why?  Well, if Clinton can "feel our pain" when he slaughters our life's
 blood, our very own flesh and blood, posterity, our very children whom we
 will pass on our heritage, then he can get us riled up enough to accept his
 gracious offer to elimate all guns and to take them away from us citizens.

What he realizes is that We the People would NOT ratify the U.S.
 Constitution UNLESS the Bill of Rights containing the first Ten Amendments
 was included for protection of the people against an evil government.

Hey, remember? We had just fought a bloody two-year war with another evil
 totalitarian ruler - King George the Third and we certainly did not want to
 face that aspect again.  So that is why the Second Amendment was included in
 the Bill of Rights - to ARM all citizens to be able to fight off an evil
 government.

 This is why for the past three years, to all of my (USCMike1's 33,223+)
 personal e-mail readers, scores of other Christian U.S. Constitutional
 Patriots like and including myself, we have been trying to warn the public
 about these evil plans but most people refuse to not only not believe our
 warnings but won't even listen and don't even care.

So, here it is now, ladies and gentlemen, finally the much beloved
 "believable" "mainstream press" is bludgeoning us all upon our heads warning
 us and preparing us for what they are going to do to us.  They KNOW that most
 people will not believe any of it but, they want us to know, so then
 afterward, they can tell us "See, we told you so" and that way they can feel
 justified in going ahead and "nuking" us with their NBC agents - cuz they
 warned us ahead of time.

Why?  Very simple, they want to reduce the population of the United States
 and the entire world first by 25%, then 50%, then 75%, and finally to end up
 with only 5% of the current world's population.  Why?  Because they too have
 some infinitesimal "faith" in the Holy Bible and want to create all by
 themselves an "everlasting" "paradise-on-earth" ONLY for the MASTER-RACE
 populated only by a small remnant of the current 

[CTRL] One World Order / Globalists Web Sites

1999-10-02 Thread Nicky Molloy

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One World Order / Globalists Web Sites
http://www.prophezine.com/sites/nwo.html



This is for everyone,  if they want, to connect the dots of what is
motivating UN. Gaia, occultism, world communism, rewilding depopulation
projects etc.  Alice Bailey channelled her Tibetan for this and now look at
the effect.

  United Nations

United Nations 50th Anniversary
in San Francisco

State of the World Forum 1995
The conference that Gorbachev hosted

International Council on
Monuments and Sites
The UN taking America's and other countries National Park
and now they are UN land.


UNESCO's Environment and Population development
World Heritage
World Constitution and
Parliament Association

Share International
This is the group behind Maitreya.

Socialist Party USA

EARTHWATCH

Earth Change Predictions

Greater Boston Chapter
of the World Future

State of the World Forum 1996

Procedures For Implementing
The National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA)

The European Parliament

UNESCO WEB

 Theosophy Corner
Alice Baily
Ascended Master Network
C.U.T. Church


Newage - Theosophy - occultism

The World Bank

1996 Series U.S. Currency


Institute of Global Education

Commission on Global Governance

Providing Security from
the Scourge of Violence

The UN and a World Army

The 1995 People's Summit
They do not like the World Bank
but are calling for One World Currency

World Wide Constitutions
This site has the proposed World Constitution.

Grassroot World Government

The Natural Law Party
(Transcendental Meditation
Political Party - New Age)

Illuminati Home Page

One World - United Nations

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[CTRL] Fwd: Clinton gets angry at reporter's questions at picnic

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Clinton gets angry at reporter's questions at picnic


by James V. Grimaldi
Seattle Times Washington bureau
WASHINGTON - The president seemed buoyant and relaxed.

He was smiling, shaking hands and socializing with reporters Friday night
during the annual picnic for members of the White House press corps when a
guest asked, "When are you going to have your next formal press conference,
Mr. President?"

President Clinton kept shaking hands and after a few moments said: "I don't
know. I'll have one."

The reporter, Paul Sperry, Washington bureau chief of Investor's Business
Daily, asked, "When?"

The president replied, "Why?"

Sperry: "The American people have a lot of questions about illegal money from
China and the campaign-finance scandal."

Suddenly, the president's mood changed, his face turned red and he launched
into an argument that lasted nearly 10 minutes as he defended himself and the
Democratic Party against allegations of Chinese attempts to influence the
1996 U.S. presidential election.

During the extraordinary exchange, Clinton suggested that Republicans were
hypocrites on the subject of campaign-finance violations. He complained about
the length and cost of the investigation and suggested that the FBI would
prefer that the news media report on political funding irregularities rather
than questions about the April 19, 1993, federal raid on the Branch Davidian
compound in Waco, Texas.

"We've spent $4 million and gave the (campaign-finance) task force millions
of records and every shred of evidence, and they haven't found a thing,"
Clinton told Sperry.

Sperry replied that FBI agents who testified before Congress this month
raised serious allegations of Department of Justice stonewalling on the
campaign-finance matter and reminded him that FBI Director Louis Freeh
thought enough evidence existed to call for an independent counsel.

At that, Clinton laughed and said, "Yeah, the FBI wants you to write about
that rather than write about Waco."

President Clinton and the FBI have been at odds during the investigation of
allegations that China attempted to make illegal donations to Democrats in
1996, but the comment marks one of the first times Clinton has publicly
expressed this level of exasperation over the nation's chief law-enforcement
agency.

`Pretty peculiar'


Brookings Institution presidential scholar Stephen Hess said he found the
president's anger unusual, given that Clinton has survived a series of
political storms, investigations and attacks on his presidency.

"The idea that the president is acting as if the FBI is some kind of
independent operation that is outside the executive branch of government and
is trying to do him in is pretty fascinating," Hess said. "It is very
peculiar that this guy would have gotten under his skin in this way, that he
would have answered him in this nondiplomatic manner when he could have just
pushed him down the receiving line. It is not typical. He has this temper,
and it flares up from time to time, but not that often."

American Enterprise Institute political scientist Norm Ornstein said that
given the recent testimony of FBI agents regarding the handling of the
campaign-finance probe and the earlier memo, the president's reaction could
have been anticipated.

"What the FBI agents did was naturally going to get a tremendous amount of
antagonism in return from the Justice Department officials and the White
House," Ornstein said.

On the Waco issue, Clinton has publicly backed Attorney General Janet Reno
but has remained cool toward the FBI - which is part of the Justice
Department - after recent revelations that FBI officials might have misled
Reno and Congress about federal agents' actions during the Branch Davidian
siege.

`Ready to engage'


White House spokesman Mike Hammer, who was too far away to hear the
conversation, said the president has in recent months made himself more
accessible to reporters.

"We've had several press conference, and he is planning to be having another
fairly soon," Hammer said yesterday. "The president is always ready to
engage, as he did last night."

Clinton began his response to Sperry by saying that Republicans were as
sullied as Democrats by campaign-finance allegations.

"You want to know the only person who has been linked to money from China?
Haley Barbour and the RNC, that's who," he said.

He apparently was referring to allegations by former Democratic fund-raiser
Johnny Chung, who told 

Re: [CTRL] Walter J. Burien,Jr - Government hiding $Trillions$ by deceptive bookeeping inCAFR's - comprehensive annual financial reports

1999-10-02 Thread Bill

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The fourteenth amendment says America will not pay for
insurrection against America...thats what has been going on,
and places like this list are where the proofs are put
together...the national debt contrived by and for the world
bank is long ago provable as insurrection against the
US...technically our debt is null and void because of
government actions dating back to the beginning of this
centurypeople won't do anything abiout it though until
the food gets shut off, thenoh then, its not going to be
pretty at all...they are counting on that, you bet.


 TRILLION$ $TOLEN
 Want it back?

 By Wayne A. Coppin
 01-01-99

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[CTRL] Noam Chomsky: East Timor Retrospective: An overview and lessons

1999-10-02 Thread Sean McDougal

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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:54:47 -0500 (CDT)

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Subject: Noam Chomsky: East Timor Retrospective: An overview and lessons

Sept 27, 1999

East Timor Retrospective

An overview and lessons

By Noam Chomsky

It is not easy to write with feigned calm and dispassion about the events
that have been unfolding in East Timor. Horror and shame are compounded by
the fact that the crimes are so familiar and could so easily have been
terminated. That has been true ever since Indonesia invaded in December
1975,
relying on U.S. diplomatic support and arms -- used illegally, but with
secret authorization, even new arms shipments sent under the cover of an
official "embargo." There has been no need to threaten bombing or even
sanctions. It would have sufficed for the U.S. and its allies to withdraw
their active participation, and to inform their close associates in the
Indonesian military command that the atrocities must be terminated and the
territory granted the right of self-determination that has been upheld by
the
United Nations and the International Court of Justice. We cannot undo the
past, but should at least be willing to recognize what we have done, and to
face the moral responsibility of saving the remnants and providing ample
reparations, a pathetic gesture of compensation for terrible crimes.

The latest chapter in this painful story of betrayal and complicity opened
right after the referendum of Aug. 30, 1999, when the population voted
overwhelmingly for independence. At once, atrocities mounted sharply,
organized and directed by the Indonesian military (TNI). The UN Mission
(UNAMET) gave its appraisal on September 11:

The evidence for a direct link between the militia and the military is
beyond
any dispute and has been overwhelmingly documented by UNAMET over the last
four months. But the scale and thoroughness of the destruction of East Timor
in the past week has demonstrated a new level of open participation of the
military in the implementation of what was previously a more veiled
operation.

The Mission warned that "the worst may be yet to come It cannot be ruled
out that these are the first stages of a genocidal campaign to stamp out the
East Timorese problem by force."

Indonesia historian John Roosa, an official observer of the vote, described
the situation starkly: "Given that the pogrom was so predictable, it was
easily preventable... But in the weeks before the ballot, the Clinton
Administration refused to discuss with Australia and other countries the
formation of [an international force]. Even after the violence erupted, the
Administration dithered for days," until compelled by international
(primarily Australian) and domestic pressure to make some timid gestures.
Even these ambiguous messages sufficed to induce the Indonesian generals to
reverse course and to accept an international presence, illustrating the
latent power that has always been at hand.

The same power relations ensure that the UN can do nothing without
Washington
consent and initiative. While Clinton "dithers," almost half the population
has been expelled from their homes according to UN estimates, and thousands
murdered. The Air Force that was able to carry out pin-point destruction of
civilian targets in Novi Sad, Belgrade, and Ponceva lacks the capacity to
drop food to people facing starvation in the mountains to which they have
been driven by the terror of the TNI forces armed and trained by the United
States, and its no less cynical allies.

The recent events will evoke bitter memories among those who do not prefer
"intentional ignorance." We are witnessing a shameful replay of events of 20
years ago. After carrying out a huge slaughter in 1977-78 with the decisive
support of the Carter Administration, Indonesia felt confident enough to
permit a brief visit by members of the Jakarta diplomatic corps, among them
U.S. Ambassador Edward Masters. They recognized that an enormous
humanitarian
catastrophe had been created. The aftermath was described by Benedict
Anderson, one of the most distinguished Indonesia scholars. "For nine long
months" of starvation and terror, Anderson testified at the United Nations,
"Ambassador Masters deliberately refrained, even within the walls of the
State Department, from proposing humanitarian aid to East Timor," waiting
"until the generals in Jakarta gave him the green light" -- until they felt
"secure enough to permit foreign visitors," as an internal State Department
document recorded. Only then did Washington consider taking some steps to
deal with the consequences of its actions.

As TNI forces and their paramilitaries 

[CTRL] IRAQ: Sanctions Kill Over 10,000 Iraqis in August

1999-10-02 Thread Sean McDougal

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Subject: IRAQ: Sanctions Kill Over 10,000 Iraqis in August
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 23:27:27 -0500 (CDT)

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** Topic: IRAQ: Sanctions Kill Over 10,000 Iraqis in August **
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  Sanctions Kill Over 10,000 Iraqis in August

BAGHDAD, September 19 (Xinhua) -- More than 10,000 Iraqi
children and elderly people died last August of different curable
diseases and malnutrition due to the continuation of the
U.N. sanctions, statistics indicate.
The figures released on Sunday by Iraqi Health Ministry showed
that 7,632 Iraqi children aged below five died of diarrhea,
pneumonia and respiratory infections and malnutrition last month,
while only 302 children died in the same month in 1989.
And 2,555 elderly people died of heart disease, diabetes,
hypertension and malignant neoplasms last month, compared to 480
deaths registered in August 1989.
The U.N. imposed harsh economic sanctions on Iraq in August
1990 following its invasion of Kuwait, which touched off the 1991
Gulf War.
The figures show that a total of over 1.18 million Iraqis,
most of them children, have died of various curable diseases and
malnutrition since the imposition of the U.N. sanctions till last
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[CTRL] Fwd: Leave Party, Reform Chairman Tells Ventura

1999-10-02 Thread Bill Richer









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October 2, 1999


Leave Party, Reform Chairman Tells Ventura


Ventura  

Related Article
Ventura Says Religion Is For 'Weak' (Oct. 1, 1999)

1999) 

By MIKE ALLEN

he Reform Party's lame-duck chairman demanded on Friday that Minnesota Gov.
Jesse Ventura resign from the party because of his assertion in Playboy
magazine that "organized religion is a sham and a crutch."

The governor's official response, as spelled by his spokesman, was a smiling,
"P!"

In the November issue of Playboy, Ventura declared that organized religion
"tells people to go out and stick their noses in other people's business."

The party chairman, Russell Verney, faxed a letter to Ventura, the party's
only major electoral success story, saying his comments "about religion,
sexual assault, overweight people, drugs, prostitution, women's undergarments
and many other subjects do not represent the values, principles or ethics
upon which this party was built."

"You have brought shame to yourself and disgrace to the members of the Reform
Party," Verney wrote. "For the good of the members, you should resign now
from the Reform Party of the United States of America."

Verney said in a telephone interview that he would meet with party leaders
early next week to decide whether to try to force Ventura to stop using the
Reform Party as his party identification. Verney said members had lodged
thousands of fax, e-mail and telephone complaints about the Playboy comments.

Nevertheless, Verney's move is sure to antagonize the many party members who
regard Ventura as the party's best hope for becoming a permanent force in
national politics. Verney is a longtime aide to Ross Perot, who is believed
by many party leaders to be encouraging Pat Buchanan to switch from the
Republican Party to the Reform Party, forcing Ventura to share the spotlight.

At the party's national convention in July, members elected a new chairman,
John Gargan, who had been endorsed by Ventura. Gargan had hoped to assume the
duties before the official transition on Jan. 1, but Verney has refused. The
party's presidential nominee will qualify for $13 million in Federal funds,
and many leaders say the party's constant infighting leaves it open to a coup
by a well-organized outsider.

Verney said that before sending his fax, he called Ventura's office and was
told he could expect a response in "two to three months." Ventura, according
to aides, read the fax, then smiled, shook his head and went home for the
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[CTRL] Indon, begging for funds, expresses deep regret over E Timor

1999-10-02 Thread Sean McDougal

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death **
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Subject: Indon, begging for funds, expresses "deep regret" over E Timor
deaths

Indonesia expresses "deep regret" over East Timor deaths

WASHINGTON, Sept 28 (AFP) - Indonesia on Tuesday expressed its "deep regret"
for loss of life in East Timor and reaffirmed a pledge to respect a
pro-independence referendum there.

"I would like to express the deep regret of the people of Indonesia for the
loss of life caused by events in East Timor," Minister of State for finance
Boediono (eds: one name) told ministers and central bank governors at the
annual meetings of the IMF and World Bank.

"Let me reaffirm that the government of Indonesia is committed to taking the
steps necessary to enable the fulfillment of the newly-expressed will of the
majority of East Timorese to seek a new destiny outside Indonesia."

Boediono also said that Indonesia's economic restructuring had been
"paralysed" by a banking scandal but that "given half a chance" the economic
recovery could get back on track.

The IMF is currently holding back funds to cash-strapped Indonesia, but
managing director Michel Camdessus said earlier Tuesday that "we stand ready
to resume our assistance as soon as the shadows hanging over the programme
are lifted."

The finance minister of Portugal, East Timor's former colonial power, issued
an impassioned plea Tuesday for the international community to "take firm
action to restore peace, provide emergency aid and contribute to the
reconstruction needs of this devastated territory and people."

If this was not forthcoming in the wake of the "genocide" in East Timor,
"words like democracy, human rights, law and order, social and economic
development, would become quite empty," Antonio de Sousa Franco told the
IMF/World Bank meeting.

Camdessus said last week that resumption of aid depended on developments in
East Timor and resolution of the Bank Bali scandal.

The scandal centers on the payment of an 80 million dollar commission by the
bank to a company owned by a ruling Golkar party executive.

The bank paid the commission to recover money owed by three banks that had
been closed down by the government.

Boediono said that the Indonesian economy is now "in far better shape" than
it was a year ago, but "uncertainties remain" because of the bank scandal,
the East Timor situation and "rising political temperature" ahead of
presidential elections in November.

He said the government regarded the bank scandal as a "very serious matter"
that would be resolved in a complete and transparent manner "which will meet
the public's expectations."

After the presidential elections Boediono said he hoped Indonesia's
restructuring and economic recovery would "regain momentum."

Camdessus said that the IMF "expect(s) to continue working with the next
government of Indonesia to do our part in helping the country achieve its
great potential," and "look forward to contributing, when the day comes, to
the rebuilding and sustainable development of East Timor."

The international community is already looking ahead to the reconstruction
of
East Timor once peace has been restored, and potential donors will meet
informally here on Wednesday with East Timor independence leaders Xanana
Gusmao and Jose Ramos Horta to discuss likely future aid needs and
priorities, World Bank officials said.

The meeting will be attended by representatives of Asian countries,
industrial nations and international financial institutions.

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[CTRL] (wto) Articles on the Free Logging Agreement Day of Action

1999-10-02 Thread Sean McDougal

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Subject: (wto) Articles on the Free Logging Agreement  Day of Action
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:10:12 -0500 (CDT)

There has been a flurry of media recently between the release of "Our
Forests at Risk: The World Trade Organization's Threat to Forest
Protection," the September 15 International Day of Action and the Ruckus
Camp in Washington. Below are three articles that highlight the issues. For
more information on the Free Logging Agreement, contact Antonia Juhaz at
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Articles Found Below:
9/14/99
Press Release for Our Forests at Risk

9/14/99
Inter Press Service
WTO Rules Threaten Forests

9/15/99
Inter Press Service
Big Business and Democracy on Collision Course at WTO



Earthjustice: U.S.-Backed Trade Plan Puts World's Forests on the
Chopping Block

CONTACT: Ann Hedreen, 206-723-8228, for Earthjustice Legal Defense Fund;
Website: http://www.earthjustice.org

DATELINE: SEATTLE, Sept. 14
At a press conference today, top forest advocates in the Northwest
called on the Clinton Administration's  trade  negotiators to uphold
United States environmental standards by immediately withdrawing one of
their key agenda items for the upcoming World Trade Organization summit
in Seattle.

According to a new report released with a statement signed by more than
100 conservation groups around the world, forests should not be
sacrificed blindly to the goal of free  trade.  The so-called "Global
Free-Logging Agreement" should not be pursued until the environmental
effects of existing  trade  rules and the new proposals have been fully
reviewed and modified to protect forests.

"Our Forests at Risk: The World Trade Organization's Threat to Forest
Protection" spells out in  sobering detail the likely consequences of
what forest advocates call the "Global Free- Logging Agreement." The
32-page report was co-authored by Earthjustice Legal Defense Fund and
Northwest Ecosystem Alliance, in collaboration with American Lands
Alliance, Asia Pacific Environmental Exchange, International Forum on
Globalization, Pacific Crest Biodiversity, and Pacific Environment  and
Resource Center.

Environmental groups say that as a member of the World Trade
Organization (WTO) , and a key proponent of the "Global Free-Logging
Agreement, " the U.S. has the ability to affect trade policy and  trade
rules, and that our negotiators must do a better job of maintaining U.S.
environmental standards.

"Our trade negotiators are pushing a plan that would undermine the
forest protections that U.S. citizens fought so hard to obtain," said
Patti Goldman, managing attorney for EarthJustice Legal Defense Fund and
a principal author of the report. "We are urging our government to look
before we leap into loosening regulations designed to protect our
environment  and U. S. jobs. Our government should insist on a full
review and modification of the  WTO  rules to ensure protection of our
forests before pushing forward with new proposals."

According to the report released today, the "Global Free-Logging
Agreement" jeopardizes forests under the cloak of free trade and
exemplifies a disturbing trend in the formulation of trade rules. It
would wipe out important forest protections and accelerate the
destruction of forests worldwide. Some of the key threats to Northwest,
and the world's, forests include:

Invasive Species Safeguards: Invasive species, such as the Asian Gypsy
Moth, the Asian long-horned beetle and others, are the second leading
threat to forest biodiversity. The best way to prevent these
bio-invasions is to stop them at the border. But  trade  rules have made
it difficult, if not impossible, to stop deadly infestations before they
spread.
Raw Log Export Bans: Washington State and the U.S. have banned the
export of raw logs from public lands in the Western U.S. The goal is to
reduce the overall demand for logging and to enable domestic mills to
benefit from the logging that is done.  Trade  rules prohibit such bans,
and Japan is already threatening to challenge the U.S. ban.

Green Procurement: Through green procurement, governments use their
purchasing power to increase demand for recycled paper and decrease
consumption of products from native and unsustainably managed forests.
Recycled content requirements are firmly in place for federal, state and
local  government procurement throughout the U.S. But under WTO trade
rules, such regulations can be  challenged on the grounds that they
discriminate against countries that log native forests.

Eco-labeling and Forest Certification: Eco-labeling enables consumers
to find and buy environmentally friendly products. Forest certification
reveals whether forest products have been produced in a  sustainable and
environmentally sound manner. Under  WTO  rules, eco- labeling and
forest certification can be challenged because they 

[CTRL] Complex CIA-Industrial compact

1999-10-02 Thread Sean McDougal

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Subject: Complex CIA-Industrial compact
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 22:09:56 -0500 (CDT)

Tuesday September 28 10:03 PM ET

Report: Germany Expels 3 CIA Agents

MUNICH, Germany (AP) - Public television reported Tuesday that three CIA
spies had been uncovered in Munich and forced to leave the country.

The German government promised Washington it would keep the affair quiet,
even agreeing not to officially expel the three, but allowing them to be
ordered home by the U.S. government, ZDF public television said in a news
release about its report, which is to air Wednesday night.

The U.S. Embassy in Berlin declined to comment on the report. Domestic
intelligence officials in Munich also refused to comment. In Washington,
CIA officials could not be reached, and a State Department official said
he had heard nothing about it.

ZDF did not say what the three were allegedly working on in Germany.

This was the second time that a CIA agent had been uncovered and expelled
from postwar Germany, the report said.

In March 1997, the German Economics Ministry confirmed that a U.S.
diplomat tried to recruit one of its department chiefs to spy for
Washington. Media reports at the time said the Americans were chiefly
interested in getting a list of German companies that delivered
high-technology supplies to Iran.

A newsmagazine, Der Spiegel, estimated then that 100 U.S. intelligence
agents were operating undercover in Germany.



By TOM RAUM

WASHINGTON (September 29, 1999 12:09 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) -
The CIA, not wanting to miss the boat on the Internet age or be outsmarted
by tech-savvy adversaries, is teaming up with Silicon Valley entrepreneurs
to invest in companies developing computer technologies that could help
with intelligence gathering.

Forgoing its usual clandestine ways, the agency has set up its own venture
capital firm - with money appropriated by Congress - with offices in
Washington and Palo Alto, Calif. It will invest in promising new start-up
hi-tech companies.

The CIA picked a fanciful name for the new company: In-Q-It. The "In"
stands for intelligence. The "It" stands for information technology. And
the Q? That's the code name of the James Bond character who comes up with
all the gadgets that the fictional British spy uses.

"We do have a sense of humor," Central Intelligence Agency spokesman Bill
Harlow said Wednesday, confirming the existence of the new company.

Harlow said the venture capital company "is clearly tied to us, but they
make a big point of being independent."

The venture, first reported by The Washington Post and The New York Times
in Wednesday's editions, was actually set up last February as a nonprofit
organization.

But it is just now getting organized, with its own board of directors,
according to the new chief executive officer, Gilman Louie.

Louie said in an interview that the company would be small, with about 20
to 25 employees, and is being started with $28 million appropriated by
Congress last year as part of the classified budget for the agency.

Both Louie and the CIA said the venture capital company would only work on
unclassified projects.

Mainly, In-Q-It will invest in some high-tech companies and form joint
ventures with other ones where the companies are working on promising
technological projects that could benefit the CIA.

This includes ways of helping the CIA to use the Internet more effectively
and securely.

It also will try to find promising technologies that will help the CIA
better use the information it already possesses in a variety of forms,
from paper to computer files.

He cited the May 7 bombing of the Chinese embassy in Yugoslavia - a target
picked by the CIA - as "the manifestation of the worst result that could
happen if you don't have all your information lined up."

Louie, 39, founded his own electronic game company - MicroProse Inc. -
that was later bought by Hasbro. At Hasbro, Louie has been an executive
with the toy company's online business group.

He said he has no experience in espionage "and I want to keep it that
way."

The company's board of directors includes John Seely Brown, director of
the Xerox Corporation's Palo Alto Research Center; Norm Augustine,
chairman of Lockheed Martin; William Perry, the former defense secretary;
and Jeong Kim of Lucent.



NewYork Times September 29, 1999

C.I.A. to Nurture Companies Dealing in High Technology

By JOHN MARKOFF

PALO ALTO, Calif. -- Hoping to insure that the nation's spies have the
latest information technology in the rapidly changing Internet age, the
Central Intelligence Agency has established a venture capital company to
nurture high-tech companies, company executives and former C.I.A.
officials said.

The C.I.A. has chosen a veteran Silicon Valley software executive to head
the effort, which has an office in Washington with eight employees and
will have a 

[CTRL] 'STAR WARS' MISSILE DEFENSE TEST SET FOR SATURDAY NIGHT

1999-10-02 Thread Bill Richer

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X DRUDGE REPORT X FRIDAY, OCTOBER 01, 1999 17:09:55 ET X

'STAR WARS' MISSILE DEFENSE TEST SET FOR SATURDAY NIGHT

The Defense Department is preparing for a first test of the interceptor
warhead of the planned National Missile Defense system.

With the fiery liftoff of a missile from Vandenberg Air Force Base on
Saturday night, the nation's missile defense program may take a large step
toward becoming reality.

Exact details of the planned launch are classified, but it will occur between
7 and 11 p.m. PST, it has been learned.

It will be the first test flight on hardware that could begin shielding the
continental United States from a missile attack by 2005. The Defense
Department is examining whether a 141-pound "kill vehicle'' can locate and
smash a "warhead" at a collision speed of 17,000 miles per hour.

The White House will decide next summer whether to deploy an initial
defensive system with 20 missiles at a site in Alaska.

That decision will be based on three test shots, two of which must be
successful.

The LOS ANGELES TIMES is reporting in fresh editions: "In Saturday's test, an
intercontinental Minuteman missile will be shot out sea from Vandenberg,
north of Santa Barbara, carrying a dummy warhead. About 20 minutes after the
launch, an interceptor missile will be launched from the Marshall Islands
4,300 miles from Vandenberg. If all goes as authorities hope, the interceptor
will strike the dummy warhead over the Pacific."


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[CTRL] Russia test-fires missiles

1999-10-02 Thread Bill Richer

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Russia test-fires missiles

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Updated 12:19 PM ET October 1, 1999
MOSCOW, Oct. 1 (UPI) Russia successfully test-fired two ballistic missiles
Friday, Defense Ministry sources said.
As part of a regular missile testing program, a nuclear submarine submerged
in the Sea of Okhotsk in Russia's Far East fired a missile that hit its
designated target 4,300 miles northwest in the Barents Sea.

Later, a new Topol-M intercontinental ballistic missile was launched from the
Arctic Plesetsk cosmodrome, flying 4,200 miles east to hit its designated
target in a remote spot on the Kamchatka peninsula.

The advanced Topol-M, capable of carrying a nuclear warhead, is designed to
replace older Soviet missiles that are to be dismantled under the terms of
the START-II nuclear arms reduction treaty.

Russia has conducted several test-firings of Topol-M and other missiles in
recent months, flexing its military muscles after a long break in tests due
to the funding problems affecting the Russian military.





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[CTRL] RUSSIA, CHINA SET FOR JOINT MILITARY EXERCISES; TALBOTT SAYS AMERICANS SHOULD...

1999-10-02 Thread Bill Richer

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X DRUDGE REPORT X WEDS, SEPTEMBER 29, 1999 20:52:42 ET X

RUSSIA, CHINA SET FOR JOINT MILITARY EXERCISES; TALBOTT SAYS AMERICANS SHOULD
NOT FEAR

Russian and Chinese warships will take part in first-ever joint maneuvers
next week.

The Russian Pacific Fleet destroyer Burny and missile cruiser Varyag will
visit the port of Shanghai on Oct. 2-6, the ITAR-TASS newswire is reporting.

During the visit, the two Russian vessels will hold joint exercises with
ships from China's Eastern Fleet. It will be the first joint maneuver between
the two nations, ITAR-TASS said.

Russian Navy spokesman Igor Dygalo: The maneuvers are "another step towards
strengthening cooperation and mutual understanding" between the two
countries.

China has become the top client for Russia's military business, purchasing
billions of dollars worth of jets, missiles and submarines.

Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott has said Americans should not fear
the developing relationship between the powers.

Asked during a recent political conference whether the expansion and new
mandates of NATO would encourage deeper Russian-Chinese relations, Talbott
said that there was no reason to fear such relations and indeed, that the
United States welcomes them.

Talbott's odd ambivalence could be rooted in the fact that he personally
believes that Russia, China, and the United States may not exist in their
current forms in the 21st Century -- because nationhood throughout the world
will become obsolete!

Just before joining the Clinton administration, Talbott wrote in TIME
magazine -- in an essay titled "The Birth of the Global Nation" -- that he is
looking forward to government run by "one global authority."

"Here is one optimist's reason for believing unity will prevail ... within
the next hundred years ... nationhood as we know it will be obsolete; all
states will recognize a single, global authority," Talbott declared in the
July 20, 1992 issue of TIME.

"A phrase briefly fashionable in the mid-20th century -- 'citizen of the
world' -- will have assumed real meaning by the end of the 21st."

Talbott continued: "All countries are basically social arrangements,
accommodations to changing circumstances. No matter how permanent and even
sacred they may seem at any one time, in fact they are all artificial and
temporary."

Talbott's belief that the United States of America and other nations are
"artificial and temporary" has caused a rift inside of the State Department,
the DRUDGE REPORT revealed earlier this week.

"I think we are losing sight that we work for the American taxpayer, not
Russia, not Asia," one State Department veteran told the DRUDGE REPORT in
Washington. "Mr. Talbott is completely consumed with world order and has
alienated many career employees here. [His] attitude borders on obsession."




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Re: [CTRL] The Law is...[a bit of a spew]

1999-10-02 Thread Sean McDougal

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 Natural justice is either law, or it is not.
 If it be law, it is always law, and nothing
 inconsistent with it can ever be made law.

==
The law is a set of "rules" that when followed lead inevitably to peace,
harmony, abundance, joy, etc.  So to say something is against the law is to
say that it works contrary to the flow of free and abundant expression of
the "force."

..
Man follows the laws of the earth.
Earth follows the laws of the universe.
The universe follows the laws of the Tao.
The Tao follows nothing.

-Tao Te Ching [verse 25]
..

Modern physics has shown that laws of the universe are in flux.  So the
law's definition will always be to do that which is in the flow of divinity
but this can be tricky because divinity has been known to change its mind.
Thanks to physicists, mystics, metaphysicians, and magicians, we have people
that spend a great deal of their time observing the universe in flux,
closely.  Let us pay heed to them so we will always know the law.

As you can see from this premise, the people who are our legislators would
necessarily not be free to observe the law in change.  Mired down in
ceaselessly working out the details of what has already been established as
the law, they miss the fact that the law has changed, much like champions of
ancient scriptural law, where those who in choosing to be religious by
studying the laws laid down for an archaic world no longer in existence
thereby miss the fact that their head is filled with so much legislative
detail that they have no room in their heads for the word of god as he
speaks now.

pssst..he is speaking to you now.  he has a new message.  let go of what
was applicable before and listen for what is applicable now.  i am smart
enough to see that the universe is in flux so i am sure that the comlex
gaian cognitive entelechy is as well.  don't assume that if some
super-intelligent force [jehovah, pan, allah, the force] speaks to you that
you must be crazy.  we assume that we can talk to god but somehow, he cannot
do the same.  that is unreasonable.  if we are merely assuming that he
WOULDN'T, we claim to know a mind that dwarfs us as a sun would a tennis
ball.

think of prayer as connecting with what is on high, not as an opportunity
for millions of people to make requests to the great DJ god on sunday, his
day off.


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[CTRL] ] Fwd: Leave Party, Reform Chairman Tells Ventura

1999-10-02 Thread ASu2431426

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Ventura made a mistake by getting into social issues  An albatross also on
Buchanan back...

A Reform Party is needed for GOVERNMENT REFORM to eliminate corruption,
remove special interest influence, cut down the vast bureaucracy,stay home
and mind our own business.  You could probably win on that platform.

On social, health and economic  issues the goal should be to remove
Government influence and regulation, not make policy statements..  Hands off.
 These are personal issues not the concern of government or politics. Let
people make up their own minds., be responsible for their own actions.

Winning elections is built on coalitions.  Ventura may have support for his
personal social views but they are no concern of government or politics.
Best left unsaid.

Looks like Ron Paul is closer to the goal. .
Keep it simple.!

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[CTRL] Bush family and Cherokee Cigarettes for $11.95+SH IF auto shiped

1999-10-02 Thread piper

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For those that know how this might
link to "Skull and Bones"
you should get a kick out of this.  The tobacco
for these cigarettes is grown on the Cherokee
Reservation on North Carolina.

I wonder who owns (some of) the American Cigarette
companies?  Considering that Cuban Cigars are so
popular - I suspect that a part of the "Bay of Pigs"
might have been that Castro was attempting to
start public advertising for Cuban tobacco's
heather properties (no sugar?).
Additives Found in American Cigarettes
http://www.ameliaww.com/fpin/tobchem.htm

Yes, I will make money if anyone signs up
- which is something that does interest me! -
BUT I have been a member of this for over
a month and have not posted.  The main reason
that I am posting now is that I wonder if some of
the major brands of cigarettes have had a muzzle
placed on them -
Is Tobacco the actual heath problem - or is it the
additives that (some) companies add?
I am still checking on GM tobacco seed,
as well as the pesticides and herbicides used.
I do know that a couple of the selling points are
*this company does not put additives in the
cigarettes,
*and the tobacco is grown on the
Cherokee Reservation.
The actual membership is for a buyers club
that sells the cigarettes,
that I hope starts selling other "natural products"
- I am not saying organic - I am still checking
out the methods under which the tobacco is
grown -
http://www.cdbn.com/1805
--
Any person can stand adversity,
The true test is to give a person power.

If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you
will be.

Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus.

"I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of
others to differ from me in opinion"
   Thomas Jefferson

My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people:
those who do the work and
those who take the credit.
He told me to be in the first group -
 there is less competition there. -
Indira Gandhi

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[CTRL] The Information War

1999-10-02 Thread Sean McDougal

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The Information War

Humanity has always invested heavily in any scheme that offers escape from
the body. And why not? Material reality is such a mess. Some of the earliest
"religious" artefacts, such as Neanderthal ochre burials, already suggest a
belief in immortality. All modern (i.e. post-paleolithic) religions contain
the "Gnostic trace" of distrust or even outright hostility to the body and
the "created" world. Contemporary "primitive" tribes and even peasant-pagans
have a concept of immortality and of going-outside-the-body (ec-stasy)
without necessarily exhibiting any excessive body-hatred. The Gnostic Trace
accumulates very gradually (like mercury poisoning) till eventually it turns
pathological. Gnostic dualism exemplifies the extreme position of this
disgust by shifting all value from body to "spirit". This idea characterizes
what we call "civilization". A similar trajectory can be traced through the
phenomenon of "war". Hunter/gatherers practised (and still practise, as
amongst the Yanomamo) a kind of ritualized brawl (think of the Plains Indian
custom of "counting coup"). "Real" war is a continuation of religion and
economics (i.e. politics) by other means, and thus only begins historically
with the priestly invention of "scarcity" in the Neolithic, and the
emergence of a "warrior caste". (I categorically reject the theory that
"war" is a prolongation of "hunting".) WWII seems to have been the last
"real" war. Hyperreal war began in Vietnam, with the involvement of
television, and recently reached full obscene revelation in the "Gulf War"
of 1991. Hyperreal war is no longer "economic", no longer "the health of the
state". The Ritual Brawl is voluntary and hon-hierarchic (war chiefs are
always temporary); real war is compulsory and hierarchic; hyperreal war is
imagistic and psychologically interiorized ("Pure War"). In the first the
body is risked; in the second, the body is sacrificed; in the third, the
body has disappeared. (See P. Clastres on War, in Archaeology of Violence.)
Modern science also incorporates an anti-materialist bias, the dialectical
outcome of its war against Religion - it has in some sense become Religion.
Science as knowledge of material reality paradoxically decomposes the
materiality of the real. Science has always been a species of priestcraft, a
branch of cosmology; and an ideology, a justification of "the way things
are." The deconstruction of the "real" in post-classical physics mirrors the
vacuum of irreality which constitutes "the state". Once the image of Heaven
on Earth, the state now consists of no more than the management of images.
It is no longer a "force" but a disembodied patterning of information. But
just as Babylonian cosmology justified Babylonian power, so too does the
"finality" of modern science serve the ends of the Terminal State, the
post-nuclear state, the "information state". Or so the New Paradigm would
have it. And "everyone" accepts the axiomatic premises of the new paradigm.
The new paradigm is very spiritual.

Even the New Age with its gnostic tendencies embraces the New Science and
its increasing etherealization as a source of proof-texts for its
spiritualist world view. Meditation and cybernetics go hand in hand. Of
course the "information state" somehow requires the support of a police
force and prison system that would have stunned Nebuchadnezzar and reduced
all the priests of Moloch to paroxysms of awe. And "modern science" still
can't weasel out of its complicity in the very-nearly-successful "conquest
of Nature". Civilization's greatest triumph over the body.

But who cares? It's all "relative" isn't it? I guess we'll just have to
"evolve" beyond the body. Maybe we can do it in a "quantum leap." Meanwhile
the excessive mediation of the Social, which is carried out through the
machinery of the Media, increases the intensity of our alienation from the
body by fixating the flow of attention on information rather than direct
experience. In this sense the Media serves a religious or priestly role,
appearing to offer us a way out of the body by re-defining spirit as
information. The essence of information is the Image, the sacral and iconic
data-complex which usurps the primacy of the "material bodily principle" as
the vehicle of incarnation, replacing it with a fleshless ecstasis beyond
corruption. Consciousness becomes something which can be "down-loaded",
excized from the matrix of animality and immortalized as information. No
longer "ghost-in-the-machine", but machine-as-ghost, machine as Holy Ghost,
ultimate mediator, which will translate us from our mayfly-corpses to a
pleroma of Light. Virtual Reality as CyberGnosis. Jack in, leave Mother
Earth behind forever. All science proposes a paradigmatic universalism - as
in science, so in the social. Classical physics played midwife to
Capitalism, Communism, Fascism and other Modern ideologies.

Post-classical science also proposes a set of ideas meant to be applied to

[CTRL] Public Enemy #1- Concentration of wealth.

1999-10-02 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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LE MONDE DIPLOMATIQUE - November 1998

The politics of hunger
by IGNACIO RAMONET


Now here's a statistic you might have missed. The total wealth of the
world's three richest individuals is greater than the combined gross
domestic product (1) of the 48 poorest countries - a quarter of all the
world's states. Everybody knows inequality has increased over the last 20
years of unfettered ultra-liberalism. But who could have imagined the gap
had widened so far? In 1960 the income of the 20 % of the world's
population living in the richest countries was 30 times greater than that
of the 20 % in the poorest countries.

Now we learn that in 1995 it was 82 times greater (2). In over 70
countries, per capita income is lower today than it was 20 years ago.
Almost three billion people - half the world's population - live on less
than two dollars a day. While goods are more abundant than ever before, the
number of people without shelter, work or enough to eat is constantly
growing. Of the 4_ billion people giving in developing countries, almost a
third have no drinking water. A fifth of all children receive an
insufficient intake of calories or protein. And two billion people - a
third of the human race - are suffering from anemia.

Is this the way it has to be? The answer is no. The UN calculates that the
whole of the world population's basic needs for food, drinking water,
education and medical care could be covered by a levy of less than 4 % on
the accumulated wealth of the 225 largest fortunes. To satisfy all the
world's sanitation and food requirements would cost only $13 billion,
hardly as much as the people of the United States and the European Union
spend each year on perfume.
...
Consider, for example, the right to food. Food is not in short supply. In
fact, food products have never been so abundant. There is enough available
to provide each of the Earth's inhabitants with at least 2,700 calories a
day. But production alone is not enough. The people who need the food must
be able to buy it and consume it. And that is precisely the problem. Thirty
million people a year die of hunger. And 800 million suffer from chronic
malnutrition.


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[CTRL] The Bush Family's Nazi Legacy

1999-10-02 Thread ASu2431426

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The Bush-Nazi link is more than " the Bush run Union Banking".

The following is from my book AMERICAS SECRET ESTABLISHMENT  page 169.
(1-800-343-6180 Liberty House Press)

This is never reported in the US Media.Even Drudge wont run it
..
In 1932 the directors of Union Banking were:

E Roland Harriman   (SB 1917)
HJ Kouwenhoven   (Nazi banker)
Knight Woolley (SB 1917) Guaranty Trust
Prescott Sheldon Bush (SG 1917) ,  partner in Brown Brothers Harriman and
father of George Bush
Johann Gronminger ( Dutch Nazi)
Ellery James   (SB 1917)
Cornelius Lievense ( Dutch Nazi)

More on page 170.

A Dutch film maker in 1998 found MORE documentation to support the Bush-Nazi
link.
The film was suppressed by Dutch National TV.

ANTONY C SUTTON

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[CTRL] The Politics of Hunger

1999-10-02 Thread Nurev Ind Research

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FROM: Le Monde diplomatique

  The politics of hunger
  by IGNACIO RAMONET


Now here’s a statistic you might have missed. The total wealth
of the world’s three richest
individuals is greater than the combined gross domestic product
(1) of the 48 poorest countries
- a quarter of all the world’s states. Everybody knows inequality
has increased over the last 20
years of unfettered ultra-liberalism. But who could have imagined
the gap had widened so far?
In 1960 the income of the 20 % of the world’s population living in
the richest countries was 30
times greater than that of the 20 % in the poorest countries.

Now we learn that in 1995 it was 82 times greater
(2). In over 70 countries, per capita income is
lower today than it was 20 years ago. Almost three billion people
- half the world's population -
live on less than two dollars a day. While goods are more abundant
than ever before, the
number of people without shelter, work or enough to eat is
constantly growing. Of the 4_ billion
people giving in developing countries, almost a third have
no drinking water. A fifth of all
children receive an insufficient intake of calories or protein.
And two billion people - a third of
the human race - are suffering from anemia.

Is this the way it has to be? The answer is no. The UN calculates
that the whole of the world
population's basic needs for food, drinking water, education
and medical care could be covered
by a levy of less than 4 % on the accumulated wealth of the
225 largest fortunes. To satisfy all
the world's sanitation and food requirements would cost only
$13 billion, hardly as much as the
people of the United States and the European Union spend each
year on perfume.

Next month will see the 50th anniversary of the Universal
Declaration on Human Rights, which
states that "everyone has the right to a standard of living
adequate for the health and
well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing,
housing and medical care and
necessary social services". But for most of humanity,
these rights are increasingly inaccessible.

Consider, for example, the right to food. Food is not in
short supply. In fact, food products have
never been so abundant. There is enough available to provide
each of the Earth's inhabitants
with at least 2,700 calories a day. But production alone is
not enough. The people who need
the food must be able to buy it and consume it. And that is
precisely the problem. Thirty million
people a year die of hunger. And 800 million suffer from
chronic malnutrition.

Again, there is nothing inevitable about this. Climatic problems
are often predictable. When
humanitarian organizations like Action Against Hunger (3) are
able to intervene, they can often
nip a famine in the bud in a matter of weeks.

And yet hunger continues to decimate whole populations.

Why? Because hunger has become a political weapon. In
today's world, no famine is gratuitous.
Hunger is a strategy pursued with unbelievable cynicism
by governments and military regimes
whom the end of the cold war has deprived of a steady income.
Rather than starving the
enemy, as Sylvie Brunel points out (4), they are starving their
own populations in order to cash
in on media coverage and international compassion, an
inexhaustible source of money, food
and political platforms.

In Somalia, Sudan, Liberia, North Korea, Burma and Afghanistan,
governments and military
leaders are holding innocent people hostage and starving
them for political ends, sometimes
with appalling cruelty. In Sierra Leone, the men of
ex-Corporal Foday Sankoh's Revolutionary
United Front (RUF), in a horrific year-long campaign of
terror, have been systematically
chopping off peasants' hands with machetes to prevent
them cultivating the land. Climate has
become a marginal factor in major famines. It is man who
is starving man. Amartya Sen, the
winner of this year's Nobel prize for economics, is renowned
for showing how government
policies can cause famine even when food is abundant. On
several occasions, he has stressed
"the remarkable fact that, in the terrible history of
famines in the world, no substantial famine
has ever occurred in any independent and democratic country
with a relatively free press (5)".
Rejecting the arguments of the neo-liberals, Professor
Sen contends that greater responsibility
for the well-being of society must be given, not to the
market, but to the state. A state that must
be sensitive to the needs of its citizens and, at the same
time, concerned with human
development throughout the world.

 Translated by Barry Smerin


 (1) Overall national production of goods and services.
 (2) Human Development Report 1998, United Nations Development Programme,
New
 York, September 1998. See also Dominique Vidal, "Dans le Sud, développement
ou
 régression?", Le Monde diplomatique, October 1998.
 (3) UK office: 1, Catton Street, London WC1R 4AB, email [EMAIL PROTECTED];
US
 office: 875 avenue of 

[CTRL] Fwd: [spynews] Israeli occupation seals off large areas of West Bank land

1999-10-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

Israel does it again.  It would be a relief if they would just transport all
the Palestinians to concentration camps and gas them.  This "slowly, slowly
catchee monkey" game is really gross.




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From: LAW [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 6:23 PM
To: LAW
Subject:


ISRAELI OCCUPATION SEALS OFF LARGE AREAS OF WEST BANK LAND

30 SEPTEMBER 1999

The Israeli authorities recently issued 14 military orders to seal off
large areas of fertile agricultural land in the West Bank. These
orders had been approved by the Israeli Military Commander Moshe
Ya'lon on 15 May this year, but were not announced until 19 - 20
September when the orders were distributed to Israeli military
stations and DCO centers in the northern West Bank, and advertised in
the Al Quds newspaper.

According to LAW's documentation, these orders included closing off
land belonging to no fewer than 79 Palestinian villages. As well as
consisting of thousands of dunums of Palestinian owned farmland, it
also contains the homes of hundreds of Palestinians; many people have
been required to evacuate the land. It is stated in the preamble to
the military orders that no one is permitted to remain in the area
without special Israeli permission.

Israel has once again imposed control over Palestinian land under the
pretext of 'security'. Settlement activity in the area could indicate
that the government has earmarked this land for the expansion of
existing settlements.

The land in question constitutes much more than the 7% of land that
Israel is due to transfer from to Palestinian civil control according
to the Israeli-Palestinian agreement recently signed in Sharm Al
Sheikh. In fact, a portion of this land may be due for transfer to the
Palestinians under the recent peace deal. The military closure of
those areas close to the Green Line (the border between Israel and the
West Bank), may be an attempt to unilaterally create facts on the
ground, as Israel has been determined to remain control of the border
areas.

LAW's field investigators are working with the village communities and
councils, engineers and land surveyors to determine the impact of
these decisions. LAW is examining the legal precedents and individual
cases to prepare a legal challenge against the decision.

This confiscation of land is illegal. It violates the Fourth Geneva
Convention and undermines the very basis of the Sharm el Sheikh deal.
LAW demands the immediate revocation of these orders and an end to all
settlement activity taking place on occupied Palestinian land.
LAW - the Palestinian Society for the Protection of Human Rights and the
Environment
is a non-governmental organisation dedicating to advancing human rights
through legal advocacy
LAW  is affiliate to the International Commission of Jurists (ICJ) and the
Federation
Internationale des Ligues de Droits de l'Homme (FIDH) and the World
Organisation Against
Torture (OMCT)

LAW
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Re: [CTRL] Hemp birdseed bust Customs under pressure, acted on phony info from DEA

1999-10-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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This is fiction, done under colour of law. There is no authority either by
legislation, judicial or executive fiat for any law that prohibits a person's
relationship with a plant that comes from GOD. These laws are all ab initio.

Om
K

In a message dated 10/2/99 12:41:02 AM, you wrote:

While it is illegal to grow hemp in the United States because it contains

trace amounts of the federally controlled drug in marijuana, the DEA

has provided no legal basis for confiscation of the imported load,

says Roulac.

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[CTRL] OEN 10/2/99

1999-10-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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Nuclear Accidents

Japanese Nuke Workers Were Just Making Cookies

First, mix uranium hexafluoride with nitric acid in a bucket.

A SERIES of grotesque blunders by inexperienced staff, combined with
inadequate safety procedures at the Tokaimura nuclear plant, lay behind
Japan's worst nuclear accident, the company which runs the installation
conceded yesterday.
From the accounts of three workers severely injured in Thursday's
inadvertent nuclear reaction, it emerged that staff bypassed normal
procedures to mix a uranium-nitric acid solution in a stainless steel
bucket by hand. As a result, there was a small explosion, followed by an
uncontained nuclear reaction which sent radiation spewing into the
atmosphere, forcing 300,000 people in a four-mile radius of the plant to
stay in their homes.

The three workers had been mixing uranium hexafluoride with nitric acid
to make fuel for a nuclear power plant. There are supposed to be three
stages: first the uranium hexafluoride is dissolved in nitric acid in a
solution tank. It is then pumped to a storage tank and then to a
settling tank. But according to one of them - Yutaka Yokoyama, 54 - the
employees ignored most of the procedure, and used neither a solution
tank nor a storage tank, preferring to mix it directly in the bucket.

The three men were also very inexperienced. For two of them it was the
first time they had tried to perform the procedure, while the third had
done it only a few times. They also attempted to process eight times the
normal amount of uranium. Under the company's rules, only 2.4 kilograms
of uranium should be processed at once in order to prevent a
"criticality incident" of the sort which caused the accident.

The three tried to process 16 kilograms of the material in one go. It is
not clear whether the violation of the rules was due to sheer ignorance
or whether they were trying to cut corners. Much of the information on
the accident came from Mr Yokoyama, the oldest member of the team
involved in the accident, who was the least affected by radiation and is
able to walk.

The other two have very low counts of white blood cells and red burn
marks on their skin - classic symptoms of radiation poisoning. Bone
marrow transplants are being considered for the three men. Radiation
levels in the town of Tokaimura, 90 miles north-east of Tokyo, were back
to normal yesterday allowing people to leave their homes for the first
time since the incident occurred on Thursday.

Few people ventured out into the streets even after the all clear. JCO,
the company which runs the plant, said safety rules had been violated. A
spokesman said: "We have no words to express our apologies. We cannot
escape our responsibility since our employees violated company rules and
the incident was deplorable."

Police are questioning company officials and criminal negligence charges
may be brought. But the company also admitted that the facility where
the accident took place had inadequate safety equipment. There were no
glove boxes to keep workers away from radioactive materials, no robots
nor remote control systems. The plant also did not have a control rod,
used to control critical state reactions.

Details of the incompetence that led to the catastrophe have appalled
the Japanese public. A series of recent accidents at nuclear plants had
already undermined confidence but the idea that workers were flouting
procedures and inventing their own Heath Robinson measures was beyond
the comprehension of many.

Jinzaburo Takagi, the leader of the Citizens' Nuclear Information
Centre, said: "It's most incredible to me. There has to be a review not
just of this plant but of the whole industry." While there was a sense
of relief that the situation had not been more grave, there was also a
feeling that it could have been avoided. There is likely to be much
anger if the government does not order a full inquiry.

The London Telegraph, October 2, 1999


Gold Market

Gold's Reverse Gear

Vroom! Vrm! Crash!


Imagine slamming a moving car into reverse gear. You can expect lots of
grinding noises, and probably some damage to the machinery. That is what
happened to the gold market this week.
Gold has been meandering downwards in value since 1980, when it was
worth $850 an ounce. That trend had accelerated in the past five months
- until a sudden recovery in the space of two and a half days last week.
Having fallen to $250 an ounce a few weeks ago, gold is now above $300,
a level it has not held since last year.
The immediate cause of these gyrations is market anxiety about possible
future sales by the world's central banks. Even though gold long ago
lost its role as the anchor of the world financial system, many central
banks still hold large reserves. But some countries have been selling
up; and others, such as Britain and Switzerland, are 

Re: [CTRL] Gold Bond Aphrodisiac?

1999-10-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 09/30/1999 2:31:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Re "Seventy-Year Itch": Okay, folks--you would feel that "menthol-like
 tingle" because...the active ingredient in Gold Bond Foot Powder *is*
 menthol. I suspect that what's happening is that the menthol desensitizes
 the skin of the penis just enough to give you, er, greater "staying" power.
 I'm just surprised no one thought of this before. 

They have.  I remember reading something about it years ago.  Not the Gold
Bond, but the menthol.  I think they spoke of using Vicks.  Prudy

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[CTRL] The Seedy Side of the FCC

1999-10-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
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A HREF="http://www.wired.com/news/news/business/story/21985.html"Business
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The Seedy Side of the FCC
by Declan McCullagh
12:15 p.m.  28.Sep.99.PDT

GRAND TETON NATIONAL PARK, Wyoming -- Americans often seem to view the
US Federal Communications Commission as something between a benign
nuisance and an antediluvian bureaucracy.

But is the FCC really a group of modern-day Don Corleones who run a
protection racket complete with threats to kowtow to government demands
or else?

That's how one FCC commissioner views his colleagues. "They are engaged
in shakedowns, extortions, and things that fall outside the formal
regulatory process," Harold Furchtgott-Roth said Tuesday at a Hudson
Institute conference in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.

"The commission has been very effective in shaking down companies [and
deciding] which communities get served first, which communities get
served last, [and] who the assets get spun off to," he said.

Furchtgott-Roth, a Clinton appointee who is the sole economist among the
agency's four other lawyers-turned-commissioners, is frequently the lone
dissenting voice when the FCC considers new regulations. Under US law,
the FCC has broad regulatory authority over telecommunications
companies.

He criticized the conditions the FCC required before approving the
SBC-Ameritech merger, and pointed at "the conditions which SBC has
'voluntarily' submitted with a gun pointed at its head.

"Somehow, all the conditions have nothing to do with wireless licenses,
but a lot of other things."

Furchtgott-Roth also slammed the so-called "Gore tax," or e-rate fee
 that the FCC devised to wire schools and libraries to the Net. "There
we have a situation where the commission has invented a tax to fund
programs at schools and libraries across America purportedly to bring
broadband. At first blush this seems like a good thing."

But, he said, Department of Education statistics published in January
1998 -- before the e-rate checks began to flow -- showed about 70
percent of schools already had access.

"This is just preposterous. Most schools and libraries were hooked up to
the Internet before a nickel of this multibillion dollar tax was imposed
on Americans. There's hardly a politician who's willing to stand up and
say this is an incredible fraud," Furchtgott-Roth said.

Martin Irvine, a Georgetown University professor who spoke Monday, said
his experience suggested otherwise. "I can't believe that so many
schools are connected," he said.

Irvine also said that the FCC should not refrain from regulation of the
Net and telecommunications businesses, saying that some forms of control
over what companies and individuals can do are better than others.
"Regulation does not equal regulation does not equal regulation," he
said.

Glenn Woroch, a research economist at GTE Laboratories, said he believed
that the FCC needed to intervene in the telecom industry -- and the
Internet business too. "I also think there's room for agencies like the
FCC to help the industry move out of certain conventions. There are a
lot of pricing conventions in the industry that are distortionary and do
not contain good incentives for investment," Woroch said.

He pointed to Internet peering arrangements as one area where the FCC
could intervene with regulations or standards-setting. "There's
something that cannot continue. But there's great difficulty in
coordinating the industry from that pricing system to one that's based
on cost," he said.

Furchtgott-Roth predicted that differences in regulation between the
Internet and more tightly controlled media like cable and broadcast will
make for some nasty fights. "It's going to be a very slow process and
it's going to create a lot of problems," he said.
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[CTRL] OEN 10/2/99 - Today's Lesson from Everything is Under Control

1999-10-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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Today's Lesson from Everything is Under Control

by Robert Anton Wilson



Crypto-Anarchy


Crypto-space labels that part of cyberspace invisible to government
snoopers--the high-tech equivalent of the survivalist communities of the
far right. As Timothy May writes:


Strong cryptography, exemplified by RSA (a public key algorithm) and PGP
(Pretty Good Privacy), provides encryption that essentially cannot be
broken with all the computing power of the universe. . . . Digital
mixes, or anonymous remailers, use crypto to create untraceable e-mail.
. . . Digital cash, untraceable and anonymous (like real cash), is also
coming.

J. Orlin Grabbe comments:


The government doesn't want you using cryptography, because they want to
know where your money is, so they can get some of it. And they don't
like you using drugs, unless the government is the dealer.

Virtual communities with virtual cash already exist in crypto-space. The
first non-interest-bearing, non-taxable virtual money came into
existence in Vancouver in 1983 and had spread as far south as San Diego
by 1990. No visible trace of the idea moving further east has been
found, but that doesn't mean that it isn't happening: They may be
growing even more cryptic. . .
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Re: [CTRL] Bush family and Cherokee Cigarettes for $11.95+SH IF auto shiped

1999-10-02 Thread Linda Minor

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The following is taken from 1994 SEC records available through a search of
SEC Edgar filings which can be done on the internet.  Of course, the public
filings are difficult to decipher, and much is not said.  Keep in mind that
the names of owners are probably nominees appointed through silent
investment agreements and most likely reflect legal rather than beneficial
ownership.  The real owners don't want anyone to know who they are.  If you
go to the URL at the bottom and peruse, you will note that Henry J. Kravis,
as well as  President Clinton's close friend Vernon Jordan, were directors
of the corporation, for what that's worth.  To read about Henry Kravis'
relationship to George Bush, see chapter 8 in the following url:
http://www.padrak.com/alt/BUSHBOOK_INDEX.html

Linda Minor



RJR NABISCO HOLDINGS CORP.
   1301 AVENUE OF THE AMERICAS
NEW YORK, NEW YORK 10019
 (212) 258-5600
RJRN was incorporated in 1970 and can trace its origins back to the
formation of R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company in 1875. Activities were
confined to
the tobacco industry until the 1960's, when diversification led to
investments
in transportation, energy and food. With the acquisition of Del Monte
Corporation ("Del Monte") in 1979, RJRN began to concentrate its focus on
consumer products. This strategy led to the acquisition of Nabisco Brands,
Inc.
in 1985. RJRN today conducts its tobacco line of business through RJRT and
Tobacco International and its food line of business through NFG and Nabisco
International.During 1993, Nabisco
International acquired a 50% interest in both Royal Brands, S.A. in Spain
and
Royal Brands Portugal, acquired approximately 95% of Cia. Arturo Field y la
Estrella Ltda., S.A. in Peru and increased its equity interest in a
partially
owned business in Venezuela to 100%. In addition, Tobacco International
acquired
a 52% interest in a cigarette factory in St. Petersburg, Russia in 1992, and

constructed a factory in Turkey and acquired a 70% interest in two cigarette
factories in the Ukraine in 1993.

The domestic tobacco business is conducted by RJRT, which is the second
largest cigarette manufacturer in the United States. RJRT's largest selling
cigarette brands in the United States include WINSTON, DORAL, SALEM, CAMEL,
MONARCH and BEST VALUE. RJRT's other cigarette brands, including VANTAGE,
MORE,
NOW, STERLING, MAGNA and CENTURY, are marketed to meet a variety of smoker
preferences. All RJRT brands are marketed in a variety of styles. Based on
data
collected for RJRT by an independent market research firm, RJRT had an
overall
share of retail consumer cigarette sales during 1993 of 29.8%, an increase
of
approximately one share point from 1992. During 1993, RJRT and the largest
domestic cigarette manufacturer, Philip Morris U.S.A., together sold
approximately 73% of all cigarettes sold in the United States.
 A primary long-term objective of RJRT is to increase earnings and cash
flow
through selective marketing investments in its key brands and continual
improvements in its cost structure and operating efficiency. Marketing
programs
for full-price brands are designed to build brand awareness and add value to
the
brands in order to retain current adult smokers and attract adult smokers of
competitive brands. In 1993, these efforts included expansion of continuity
and
relationship-building programs such as CAMEL Cash and the WINSTON Winners
Club,
and the introduction of line extensions such as CAMEL Special Lights and
WINSTON
Select Lights. RJRT believes it is essential to compete in all segments of
the
cigarette market, and accordingly offers a range of lower-priced brands
including DORAL, MONARCH and BEST VALUE intended to appeal to more
cost-conscious adult smokers.   2PAGE
For a discussion on competition in the tobacco business, see "Other
Matters--Competition" in this Item 1 and "1993 Competitive Activity" under
Item
7, Management's Discussion and Analysis of Financial Condition and Results
of
Operations.
 RJRT's domestic manufacturing facilities, consisting principally of
factories and leaf storage facilities, are located in or near Winston-Salem,
North Carolina and are owned by RJRT. Cigarette production is conducted at
the
Tobaccoville cigarette manufacturing plant (approximately two million square
feet) and the Whitaker Park cigarette manufacturing complex (approximately
one
and one-half million square feet). RJRT believes that its cigarette
manufacturing facilities are among the most technologically advanced in the
United States. RJRT also has significant research and development facilities
in
Winston-Salem, North Carolina.
 RJRT's cigarettes are sold in the United States primarily to chain
stores,
other large retail outlets and through distributors to other retail and
wholesale outlets. Except for McLane Company, Inc., which 

Re: [CTRL] Hemp birdseed bust Customs under pressure, acted on phony info from DEA

1999-10-02 Thread Bill Kalivas

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Yeah, but when the SOB's come in with guns drawn, the point's moot.

BillK

  -Caveat Lector-

This is fiction, done under colour of law. There is no authority either by
legislation, judicial or executive fiat for any law that prohibits a person's
relationship with a plant that comes from GOD. These laws are all ab initio.

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Re: [CTRL] Land off limits to humans (fwd)

1999-10-02 Thread Prudence L. Kuhn

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In a message dated 09/30/1999 2:35:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Suppose half the land in the United States were suddenly declared
 "off limits" to people, and most of the remaining half were
 managed by government agencies to assure that the needs of
 "non-human populations" were given priority over the needs of
 humans 

Sounds good to me.  The only hair in the ointment is that of the rest of the
land, more than half will be in the new "gated" communities.  At least that's
how it is around here.  The rest of us get to share the space that's left.
Oh and we can spend any spare time we have from our two job lives in shopping
malls, because they are such a wonderful way to utilize space.  Prudy

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[CTRL] The Business Cycle And the Future

1999-10-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.pei-intl.com/TOPICS/FUTURE.htm
A HREF="http://www.pei-intl.com/TOPICS/FUTURE.htm"Is the Global Economy
Cracking Up? - by Martin  /A
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One man's opinion.
Om
K
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The Business Cycle

And the Future



By Martin A. Armstrong

Princeton Economic Institute
© Copyright September 26th, 1999




For many years, I have pursued a field of study that is at best
non-traditional. My discovery of a global business cycle during the
early 1970's was by no means intentional. As a youth growing up in the
1960's, the atmosphere was anything but stable. I don’t really know if
it was Hollywood that captivated my interest in history with an endless
series of movies about Roman and Greek history, but whatever it was that
drove me, I can only attest to what resulted.

My father had always wanted to return to Europe after serving under
General Patton during the war. My mother insisted that she would go only
when he could afford to take the whole family. That day finally came and
something inside me insisted upon being able to earn my own spending
money. I applied for a job despite my age of only 14. It wasn’t much,
but on weekends I worked with a coin/bullion dealer. In those days, gold
was illegal to buy or sell in bullion form so the industry centered on
gold coins issued by Mexico, Hungary and Austria. I soon became familiar
with the financial markets as they were starting to emerge. It was this
experience that began to conflict with the formal training of school.

One day in a history class, the teacher brought in an old black and
white film entitled "Toast of the Town." This film was about Jim Fisk
and his attempt to corner the gold market in 1869 that created a major
financial panic in which the term "Black Friday" was first coined. In
the film was a very young support actor named Cary Grant who stood by
the ticker tape machine reading off the latest gold prices. He read the
tape and exclaimed that gold had just reached $162 an ounce. I knew from
my job that gold was currently selling for $35. At first I thought that
the price quote of $162 in the movie must be wrong. After all, Hollywood
wasn’t known for truthfulness. Nonetheless, I was compelled to go to the
library to check the newspapers of 1869 for myself. This first step in
research left me stunned – the New York Times verified $162 was correct.

For the first time in my life, I was faced with a paradox that seemed to
conflict with traditional concepts. How could gold be $162 in 1869 and
yet be worth only $35 in the 1960's? Surely, inflation was supposed to
be linear. If a dollar was a lot of money in 1869, this meant that
adjusted for inflation gold must have been the equivalent of several
thousand dollars. If value was not linear, then was anything linear?

I began exploring the field of economics on my own and reading the
various debates over the existance of a business cycle. Kondratieff was
interesting for his vision of great waves of economic activity. Of
course, others argued that such oscillations were purely random. Over
the years that followed, this nagging question still bothered me. I had
poured my heart and soul into history, quickly learning that all
civilizations rose and fell and there seemed to be no exception.

I was still not yet convinced that a business cycle was actually
definable. Kondratieff’s work was indeed interesting, but there was not
enough data to say that it was in fact correct. On the other hand, it
seemed that the random theory crowd was somehow threatened by the notion
that the business cycle might be definable. After all, if the business
cycle could be defined, then perhaps man’s intervention would not be
successful. Clearly, there was a large degree of self-interest in
discouraging any attempt to define the business cycle. I knew from my
study of history that a non-professional German industrialist took Homer
and set out to disprove the academics who argued that Homer was merely a
story for children. In the end, that untrained believer in Homer disc
overed Troy and just about every other famous Greek city that was not
supposed to have existed beyond fable.

I didn’t know how to go about such a quest to find if the business cycle
was definable. Admittedly, I began with the very basic naive approach of
simply adding up all the financial panics between 1683 and 1907 and
dividing 224 years by the number of panics being 26 yielding 8.6 years.
Well, this didn’t seem to be very valid at first, but it did allow for a
greater amount of data to be tested compared to merely 3 waves described
by Kondratieff.

The more I began to back test this 8.6-year average, the more accurate
it seemed to be. I spent countless hours in libraries reading
contemporary accounts of events around these dates. It soon became clear
that there were issues of intensity and shifts in public confidence.
During some periods, society seemed to distrust 

Re: [CTRL] sleep

1999-10-02 Thread Tenorlove

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How much money does the CPSC get from the baby furniture industry? And
how many of those parents who overlaid their babies were too drunk or
drugged to be in charge of a child?
__
Do You Yahoo!?
Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

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Re: [CTRL] Hemp birdseed bust Customs under pressure,acted on phony info from DEA

1999-10-02 Thread Bill

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Failure to arm ones self is direct contribution and consent
to a police state.  Do not help build the police state.
Take responsibility for your own protection.  BG

Bill Kalivas wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Yeah, but when the SOB's come in with guns drawn, the point's moot.

 BillK

   -Caveat Lector-
 
 This is fiction, done under colour of law. There is no authority either by
 legislation, judicial or executive fiat for any law that prohibits a person's
 relationship with a plant that comes from GOD. These laws are all ab initio.

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[CTRL] He Digs (Through) Gov't Muck

1999-10-02 Thread Kris Millegan

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from:
http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/22045.html
A HREF="http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/22045.html"Political
News from Wired News/A
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He Digs (Through) Gov't Muck
by Declan McCullagh
12:30 p.m.  1.Oct.99.PDT
Ask John Young what puts a grin on his face and he'll give you a ready
response: Unearthing government documents, the more obscure the better.


Over the last three years, Young has compiled what is probably the
world's most extensive public collection of over 4,000 files about
privacy and technology, often related to encryption and free speech, and
always of interest to the thousands of visitors who frequent jya.com
every day.



Read more in Infostructure





Young, an accomplished 63-year-old New York City architect who has
taught at Columbia University, views his Web site both as a service to
the Internet public and an experiment in information design and
collection.

When Young phones government agencies to ask them for electronic copies
of documents for his collection, to submit freedom of information act
requests, or to pore through the labyrinthine Federal Register each
morning (on Tuesday he found the FCC's new wiretapping rules), he's
acting just like a journalist. But he doesn't consider himself one.

"My wife and I are both scholars -- we both teach. We like to put up
original documents so people can make up their own minds. We see it as a
librarian service," he says.

A self-confessed 1960s radical -- at the 1968 Columbia University
student strike, he met the students who would become his partners at the
public-service Urban Deadline firm -- Young says he joined the
cypherpunks mailing list in 1995 and soon became enraptured by the
heated discussions of privacy, freedom, encryption, and the intrusive
Clipper Chip.

When a blue-panel federal commission the next year published an
important but hardcopy-only "CRISIS report" that recommended reduced
regulation of encryption products, Young decided the Internet community
should be able to read it online.

"We have a fair amount of equipment here including scanners since we use
them for our graphic work I went down and got this CRISIS report and
scanned it and put it up," he says. "That was the first thing we did and
it got a nice response."

It was also the beginning of what has become nearly a full-time job for
Young, who offers his scanners as a community service. News
organizations and public interest groups regularly send him volumes of
hardcopy documents to be turned into text files and placed on his site.

When the White House distributed intriguing details of new encryption
 regulations at a press conference on 16 September, the Electronic
Frontier Foundation wanted to make sure they'd be online. The group
faxed them to Young that evening.

Some of his readers are unusual. The US National Security Agency, the
subject of a special section in Young's vast archive, appears to send a
robot at 7 a.m. every weekday to download the latest files. "I still
don't know if it's a bot or a person. But it comes every morning
faithfully and takes whatever's new. It takes two copies. It sure acts
like a bot," Young says.

Whether person or program, visitors from spy agencies are a regular
source of amusement for Young. His logs show that such first-time
readers often browse other areas of jya.com, such as his architecture
business. "Some of the new NSA folks usually come around and see who
this John Young person is. Then they don't come to that area again and
stick to the crypto stuff," he said.

Not all visitors are as benign. Last week Young got a scare from what
seemed to me a malicious bot run by the Korean government's Information
Security Agency. In a 22 September post to the cypherpunks mailing list,
Young said the agency had "set up [or allowed] a couple of robots to
issue a sustained flood of requests for the same three files, one per
second, which has nearly stopped access by others."

But the so-called denial-of-service attack seemed to be an accident.
"All of the administrators were off since it was a Korean holiday,"
Young said.

A KISA system administrator explained in an email message: "In this
case, this robot has a problem. It's process has gone to the loop-back
mode. Let me try to fix it but it could need a few days because the
manager of the TWISTer server is in absent. From today it started the
holidays for 3 days in Korean(Oriental) Thanks Giving Days."

So what transformed a student radical into a respected architect whose
projects have included the Rockefeller Apartment, the Pierre Hotel, and
Columbia University's Whittier Hall?

The answer seems to be that he never changed.

A 1989 New York Times article reports on what happened when the
architect was interviewed on a local Channel 13 TV show. Young wore a
welder's mask to protest 

[CTRL] Nathaniel Hawthorne--Young Goodman Brown

1999-10-02 Thread Linda Minor

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I'm sorry I neglected to supply the url when I posted Grandfather's Chair.
http://eldred.ne.mediaone.net/nh/nhwrit.html

Linda Minor

http://eldred.ne.mediaone.net/nh/ygb.html
from Mosses from an Old Manse, 1854
By Nathaniel Hawthorne (1804-1864), 1835

Young Goodman Brown


YOUNG GOODMAN BROWN came forth at sunset, into the street of Salem village,
but put his head back, after crossing the threshold, to exchange a parting
kiss with his young wife. And Faith, as the wife was aptly named, thrust her
own pretty head into the street, letting the wind play with the pink ribbons
of her cap, while she called to Goodman Brown.

"Dearest heart," whispered she, softly and rather sadly, when her lips were
close to his ear, "pr'y thee, put off your journey until sunrise, and sleep
in your own bed to-night. A lone woman is troubled with such dreams and such
thoughts, that she's afeard of herself, sometimes. Pray, tarry with me this
night, dear husband, of all nights in the year!"

"My love and my Faith," replied young Goodman Brown, "of all nights in the
year, this one night must I tarry away from thee. My journey, as thou
callest it, forth and back again, must needs be done 'twixt now and sunrise.
What, my sweet, pretty wife, dost thou doubt me already, and we but three
months married!"

"Then God bless you!" said Faith, with the pink ribbons, "and may you find
all well, when you come back."

"Amen!" cried Goodman Brown. "Say thy prayers, dear Faith, and go to bed at
dusk, and no harm will come to thee."

So they parted; and the young man pursued his way, until, being about to
turn the corner by the meeting-house, he looked back and saw the head of
Faith still peeping after him, with a melancholy air, in spite of her pink
ribbons.

"Poor little Faith!" thought he, for his heart smote him. "What a wretch am
I, to leave her on such an errand! She talks of dreams, too. Methought, as
she spoke, there was trouble in her face, as if a dream had warned her what
work is to be done to-night. But, no, no! 'twould kill her to think it.
Well; she's a blessed angel on earth; and after this one night, I'll cling
to her skirts and follow her to Heaven."

With this excellent resolve for the future, Goodman Brown felt himself
justified in making more haste on his present evil purpose. He had taken a
dreary road, darkened by all the gloomiest trees of the forest, which barely
stood aside to let the narrow path creep through, and closed immediately
behind. It was all as lonely as could be; and there is this peculiarity in
such a solitude, that the traveller knows not who may be concealed by the
innumerable trunks and the thick boughs overhead; so that, with lonely
footsteps, he may yet be passing through an unseen multitude.

"There may be a devilish Indian behind every tree," said Goodman Brown to
himself; and he glanced fearfully behind him, as he added, "What if the
devil himself should be at my very elbow!"

His head being turned back, he passed a crook of the road, and looking
forward again, beheld the figure of a man, in grave and decent attire,
seated at the foot of an old tree. He arose, at Goodman Brown's approach,
and walked onward, side by side with him.

"You are late, Goodman Brown," said he. "The clock of the Old South was
striking, as I came through Boston; and that is full fifteen minutes agone."

"Faith kept me back awhile," replied the young man, with a tremor in his
voice, caused by the sudden appearance of his companion, though not wholly
unexpected.

It was now deep dusk in the forest, and deepest in that part of it where
these two were journeying. As nearly as could be discerned, the second
traveller was about fifty years old, apparently in the same rank of life as
Goodman Brown, and bearing a considerable resemblance to him, though perhaps
more in expression than features. Still, they might have been taken for
father and son. And yet, though the elder person was as simply clad as the
younger, and as simple in manner too, he had an indescribable air of one who
knew the world, and would not have felt abashed at the governor's
dinner-table, or in King William's court, were it possible that his affairs
should call him thither. But the only thing about him, that could be fixed
upon as remarkable, was his staff, which bore the likeness of a great black
snake, so curiously wrought, that it might almost be seen to twist and
wriggle itself like a living serpent. This, of course, must have been an
ocular deception, assisted by the uncertain light.

"Come, Goodman Brown!" cried his fellow-traveller, "this is a dull pace for
the beginning of a journey. Take my staff, if you are so soon weary."

"Friend," said the other, exchanging his slow pace for a full stop, "having
kept covenant by meeting thee here, it is my purpose now to return whence I
came. I have scruples, touching the matter thou wot'st of."

"Sayest thou so?" replied he of the serpent, smiling apart. "Let us walk on,
nevertheless, reasoning as 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Goddard--Waco Bomb Claim Retracted

1999-10-02 Thread Linda Minor

 -Caveat Lector-

Gordon Novel has photographs of the tank
that show that it is undamaged, and also
has photographs apparently doctored by the
FBI showing it ripped open. However, a lawyer
on the legal team informed me that a small
cap was missing from the tank in the photos
that prove it was not ripped open. Yesterday
I learned that such tanks, when overheated,
do not explode, instead a safety value pops
off and a jet of gas shoots out of an escape
valve. This could easy explain both the
fireball and why the tank was not ruptured.


Is this the same Gordon Novel from JFK assassination days?

The following are excerpts from James DiEugenio's DESTINY BETRAYED:
Novel was perhaps the primary CIA contact for the New Orleans part of the
anti-Castro efforts.  A communications and electronics expert, he had funds
channeled to his Evergreen Advertising Agency, a CIA front, to fuel the
effort.  With this, he helped pay for radio commercials that contained
cryptic messages to alert agents to the Bay of Pigs invasion date.  Novel
and his first attorney, Jerry Weiner, originally denied his Agency
connections.  But after Garrison uncovered Novel's participation with Ferrie
in the Houma arms raid and the New Orleans States-Item broke a story about
his CIA connection, Novel and his second attorney, Steve Plotkin, dropped
the denials and changed their response to a "no comment."  Later, this ploy
was also dropped; in a letter discovered in his abandoned New Orleans
apartment, Novel revealed his CIA employment.

Novel was connected through the Houma weapons raid on the Schlumberger
warehouse not only to Ferrie but also to Bannister.  It was at Banister's
office that many of the stolen munitiions were stored for later use at the
Bay of Pigs.

Novel denied that the Houma operation was a heist at all.  He claimed it was
nothing but a "patriotic" pickup of stored war material.  Privately, he said
that on the day of the pickup, he was phoned by his CIA contact and told to
lead a group to the Schlumberger bunker, and then transport the weapons by
laundry truck to their eventual debarkation point, Miami.  He said the
people he worked with -- Ferrie, Sergio Arcacha Smith, and Layton Martens,
Ferrie's then roommate -- were all supposed to be working with the CIA.

Novel's statements were critical to the Garrison probe because he not only
provided a CIA link to Ferrie and Banister, he also stated that he knew both
Clay Shaw and Dean Andrews.  Novel's specialty was electronics.  He also
owned a restaurant which he almost never frequented. Shaw was in the
international trade business and wrote plays.  We have seen that Andrews was
an undistinguished attorney.  How did Shaw know Novel?  How did Andrews know
Novel?  And who was Novel's "CIA contact" who called him the day of the
Houma "raid"?

These questions became even more compelling in view of what Novel did next.
He had appeared before the Grand Jury on March 16, 1967, and discussed some
general matters.  But on March 22, the day he was scheduled to return for
more detailed questioning, he disappeared.  He had sold his interest in the
restaurant and cleared out his apartment.  He then began a national and
international junket denouncing Garrison from Columbus, Ohio, McLean,
Virginia, and Montreal, Canada, sidestepping the DA's efforts to extradite
him.

But Novel had slipped up when he left New Orleans in such a hurry.   Two
young girls who rented his apartment found a letter written by him.  One of
their friends gave it to Hoke May, a reporter, who in turn gave it to
Garrison.  A handwriting analyst verified it as Novel's.  It was dated in
January 1967, before Garrison's probe was made public.  Made out to a "Mr.
Weiss," it began:

I took the liberty of writing you directly and apprising you of current
situation expecting you to forward this through appropriate channels.  Our
connection and activity of that period involved individuals presently about
to be indicted as conspirators in Mr. Garrison's investigation.
The letter went on to warn that Garrison was close to discovering Novel's
association with Double-Chek Corporation in Miami, another CIA front that
coordinated the anti-Castro Bay of Pigs efforts in Florida.  He added that,
when questioned by the FBI, "My reply on five fqueries was negative.  Bureau
unaware of Double-Chek association in this matter."

Novel was getting frantic and said he could not use the Fifth Amendment,
immunity, or legal dodges and had to be out of New Orleans by March.  He
then threatened that if the Agency left him out in the cold or harmed him,
he would release sealed Agency files on the matter to expose it.  Novel
closed by urging the Agency to aid him: ...appropriate counteraction
relative to Garrison's inquisition concerning us...may be handled through
military channels vis-a-vis DIA [Defense Intelligence Agency] man.  Garrison
is presently colonel in Louisiana Army National Guard

The Agency took Novel's threat seriously, and came to his 

Re: [CTRL] Hemp birdseed bust Customs under pressure, acted on phony info from DEA

1999-10-02 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

Not if you stand-up to them and start the "legal" trail that will dismiss the
case and/or give youa good trial base and a strong appeal. YOU HAVE TO CALL
THEIR BLUFF.

Iy you take the right tack, and not slip into their game. Common LAW and the
constitution will prevail. One must declare Quo Warranto to arresting agents
and b to the judge before arraingment. If the judge doesn't pay attention and
respond,  he is opening himself up to a personal suit without the shield of
his bench.  Act as your own lawyer, understand that you have a great amount
of unalienable rights and if you start the process of quo warranto, they have
to repond. If is all corrupt, then . . . pay money. But most places it will
work because, the actions are under colour of law. It works, I have done it
and walked.

Don't mean sh#t to a tree and rights don't mean nothing unless you know how
to excercis them.

STAND-UP Individually and together, that is what takes back our constitution.



If trhey want to deal with the publicity, THEY WON"T
In a message dated 10/2/99 10:01:42 AM, you wrote:

Yeah, but when the SOB's come in with guns drawn, the point's moot.

BillK

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This is fiction, done under colour of law. There is no authority either by
legislation, judicial or executive fiat for any law that prohibits a
person's
relationship with a plant that comes from GOD. These laws are all ab initio.

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Re: [CTRL] OEN 10/2/99 - Today's Lesson from Everything is UnderControl

1999-10-02 Thread Bill

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Pay The Vig.

Kris Millegan wrote:

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 from:
 http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
 A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A
 -
 
 Today's Lesson from Everything is Under Control

 by Robert Anton Wilson

 Crypto-Anarchy

 Crypto-space labels that part of cyberspace invisible to government
 snoopers--the high-tech equivalent of the survivalist communities of the
 far right. As Timothy May writes:

 Strong cryptography, exemplified by RSA (a public key algorithm) and PGP
 (Pretty Good Privacy), provides encryption that essentially cannot be
 broken with all the computing power of the universe. . . . Digital
 mixes, or anonymous remailers, use crypto to create untraceable e-mail.
 . . . Digital cash, untraceable and anonymous (like real cash), is also
 coming.

 J. Orlin Grabbe comments:

 The government doesn't want you using cryptography, because they want to
 know where your money is, so they can get some of it. And they don't
 like you using drugs, unless the government is the dealer.

 Virtual communities with virtual cash already exist in crypto-space. The
 first non-interest-bearing, non-taxable virtual money came into
 existence in Vancouver in 1983 and had spread as far south as San Diego
 by 1990. No visible trace of the idea moving further east has been
 found, but that doesn't mean that it isn't happening: They may be
 growing even more cryptic. . .
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 Aloha, He'Ping,
 Om, Shalom, Salaam.
 Em Hotep, Peace Be,
 Omnia Bona Bonis,
 All My Relations.
 Adieu, Adios, Aloha.
 Amen.
 Roads End
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Re: [CTRL] Land off limits to humans (fwd)

1999-10-02 Thread Bill

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The Masters Agenda.  Destroy Forest.  Create Desert.
Control Oasis.  Subject The Slave Class.

"Prudence L. Kuhn" wrote:

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 In a message dated 09/30/1999 2:35:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Suppose half the land in the United States were suddenly declared
  "off limits" to people, and most of the remaining half were
  managed by government agencies to assure that the needs of
  "non-human populations" were given priority over the needs of
  humans 

 Sounds good to me.  The only hair in the ointment is that of the rest of the
 land, more than half will be in the new "gated" communities.  At least that's
 how it is around here.  The rest of us get to share the space that's left.
 Oh and we can spend any spare time we have from our two job lives in shopping
 malls, because they are such a wonderful way to utilize space.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] The Politics of Hunger

1999-10-02 Thread Bill

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We have warehouses of butter
We have oceans of wine
We have famine when we need it
We have designer crime
We've got porsche
Mercedes
Ferarri
Rolls Royce.
Yeah
We've got choice
Roger Waters Amused to Death 1992
What God Wants, God GetsGod help us all.

Nurev Ind Research wrote:

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 FROM: Le Monde diplomatique

   The politics of hunger
   by IGNACIO RAMONET

 Now here’s a statistic you might have missed. The total wealth
 of the world’s three richest
 individuals is greater than the combined gross domestic product
 (1) of the 48 poorest countries
 - a quarter of all the world’s states. Everybody knows inequality
 has increased over the last 20
 years of unfettered ultra-liberalism. But who could have imagined
 the gap had widened so far?
 In 1960 the income of the 20 % of the world’s population living in
 the richest countries was 30
 times greater than that of the 20 % in the poorest countries.

 Now we learn that in 1995 it was 82 times greater
 (2). In over 70 countries, per capita income is
 lower today than it was 20 years ago. Almost three billion people
 - half the world's population -
 live on less than two dollars a day. While goods are more abundant
 than ever before, the
 number of people without shelter, work or enough to eat is
 constantly growing. Of the 4_ billion
 people giving in developing countries, almost a third have
 no drinking water. A fifth of all
 children receive an insufficient intake of calories or protein.
 And two billion people - a third of
 the human race - are suffering from anemia.

 Is this the way it has to be? The answer is no. The UN calculates
 that the whole of the world
 population's basic needs for food, drinking water, education
 and medical care could be covered
 by a levy of less than 4 % on the accumulated wealth of the
 225 largest fortunes. To satisfy all
 the world's sanitation and food requirements would cost only
 $13 billion, hardly as much as the
 people of the United States and the European Union spend each
 year on perfume.

 Next month will see the 50th anniversary of the Universal
 Declaration on Human Rights, which
 states that "everyone has the right to a standard of living
 adequate for the health and
 well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing,
 housing and medical care and
 necessary social services". But for most of humanity,
 these rights are increasingly inaccessible.

 Consider, for example, the right to food. Food is not in
 short supply. In fact, food products have
 never been so abundant. There is enough available to provide
 each of the Earth's inhabitants
 with at least 2,700 calories a day. But production alone is
 not enough. The people who need
 the food must be able to buy it and consume it. And that is
 precisely the problem. Thirty million
 people a year die of hunger. And 800 million suffer from
 chronic malnutrition.

 Again, there is nothing inevitable about this. Climatic problems
 are often predictable. When
 humanitarian organizations like Action Against Hunger (3) are
 able to intervene, they can often
 nip a famine in the bud in a matter of weeks.

 And yet hunger continues to decimate whole populations.

 Why? Because hunger has become a political weapon. In
 today's world, no famine is gratuitous.
 Hunger is a strategy pursued with unbelievable cynicism
 by governments and military regimes
 whom the end of the cold war has deprived of a steady income.
 Rather than starving the
 enemy, as Sylvie Brunel points out (4), they are starving their
 own populations in order to cash
 in on media coverage and international compassion, an
 inexhaustible source of money, food
 and political platforms.

 In Somalia, Sudan, Liberia, North Korea, Burma and Afghanistan,
 governments and military
 leaders are holding innocent people hostage and starving
 them for political ends, sometimes
 with appalling cruelty. In Sierra Leone, the men of
 ex-Corporal Foday Sankoh's Revolutionary
 United Front (RUF), in a horrific year-long campaign of
 terror, have been systematically
 chopping off peasants' hands with machetes to prevent
 them cultivating the land. Climate has
 become a marginal factor in major famines. It is man who
 is starving man. Amartya Sen, the
 winner of this year's Nobel prize for economics, is renowned
 for showing how government
 policies can cause famine even when food is abundant. On
 several occasions, he has stressed
 "the remarkable fact that, in the terrible history of
 famines in the world, no substantial famine
 has ever occurred in any independent and democratic country
 with a relatively free press (5)".
 Rejecting the arguments of the neo-liberals, Professor
 Sen contends that greater responsibility
 for the well-being of society must be given, not to the
 market, but to the state. A state that must
 be sensitive to the needs of its citizens and, at the same
 time, concerned with human
 development throughout the world.

  Translated by 

Re: [CTRL] More Get Paid to Surf Sites

1999-10-02 Thread piper

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I tried one of these before and it tried to take over,
but I took a look at the first one and it looks great.
Thank You
Pied Piper
===
Kindly use my MemberID while signing up,

MemberID: Hilary

To sign up, click here: http://www.valuepay.com/ref.asp?re=Hilary


Hilary A. Thomas wrote:

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 Hi all,

 With the help of DanS, I've just located and signed up for a whole bunch of
 "get paid to surf" sites.

 I'm trying to organize the information as best as possible to make it easy
 for you.  Sign up for none, one or all.

 Remember the address I used for these sites is:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Some sites ask for my reference number or email address.  I'll just go
 right down the list to make it easy for you.

 This is a win-win for everyone, so jump aboard and earn some cash for
 hanging on the Net like I know you like to do anyway.

 Hitmaster (Data X Inc.):  Use the following URL and it will automatically
 add to my account:
 http://www.data-x.com/hitmaster/acc.asp?rid=21039

 UtopiaAd:  Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my
 account:
 http://www.utopiad.com/member/getPaid?refId=161855

 All community:  Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my
 account:
 http://AllCommunity.com/all.members/hilary/

 DotAd:  Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my account:
 http://www.dotad.com/Default.asp?ID=175911

 SharkHunt:  Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my
 account:
 http://www.sharkhunt.com/join/join.asp?shID=Hilary

 SendMoreInfo:  Use the following URL and it will automatically add to my
 account:
 http://www.sendmoreinfo.com/id/115670

 PayBar.  Use my ID# 1401181907 and go to:  http://www.paybar.com

 I have some more to send out, but this should get you started.

 Hilary

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The true test is to give a person power.

If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will
be.

Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus.

"I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of
others to differ from me in opinion"
   Thomas Jefferson

My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people:
those who do the work and
those who take the credit.
He told me to be in the first group -
 there is less competition there. -
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Re: [CTRL] Bush family and Cherokee Cigarettes for $11.95+SH IF auto shiped

1999-10-02 Thread Maggie

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Hi, Piper,

I just wanted to warn you that I signed up for   the same thing several
months ago. Everything went fine until the company "went out of business".
They made sure to cash my $87.00 check right before doing so, of course. I
never got my order and I never got my money back. I got a letter from the
woman who signed me up saying that one of the owners stole a bunch of money
and then went and started another business doing a similar thing. I asked if
he was going to be prosecuted and she didn't know BUT the people from the
company that were really "ethical" had started up a new one that I should
now join. I did not. These were the same additive free, grown on a Cherokee
Indian reservation cigarettes. Also note that while I did get my first 2
orders, they were very late because of production problems at the factory. I
was told not worry because "all new equipment was being purchased".
Be careful.
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From: piper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 8:21 AM
Subject: [CTRL] Bush family and Cherokee Cigarettes for $11.95+SH IF auto
shiped


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:
: For those that know how this might
: link to "Skull and Bones"
: you should get a kick out of this.  The tobacco
: for these cigarettes is grown on the Cherokee
: Reservation on North Carolina.
:
: I wonder who owns (some of) the American Cigarette
: companies?  Considering that Cuban Cigars are so
: popular - I suspect that a part of the "Bay of Pigs"
: might have been that Castro was attempting to
: start public advertising for Cuban tobacco's
: heather properties (no sugar?).
: Additives Found in American Cigarettes
: http://www.ameliaww.com/fpin/tobchem.htm
:
: Yes, I will make money if anyone signs up
: - which is something that does interest me! -
: BUT I have been a member of this for over
: a month and have not posted.  The main reason
: that I am posting now is that I wonder if some of
: the major brands of cigarettes have had a muzzle
: placed on them -
: Is Tobacco the actual heath problem - or is it the
: additives that (some) companies add?
: I am still checking on GM tobacco seed,
: as well as the pesticides and herbicides used.
: I do know that a couple of the selling points are
: *this company does not put additives in the
: cigarettes,
: *and the tobacco is grown on the
: Cherokee Reservation.
: The actual membership is for a buyers club
: that sells the cigarettes,
: that I hope starts selling other "natural products"
: - I am not saying organic - I am still checking
: out the methods under which the tobacco is
: grown -
: http://www.cdbn.com/1805
: --
: Any person can stand adversity,
: The true test is to give a person power.
:
: If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually
you
: will be.
:
: Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you
surplus.
:
: "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of
: others to differ from me in opinion"
:    Thomas Jefferson
:
: My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people:
: those who do the work and
: those who take the credit.
: He told me to be in the first group -
:  there is less competition there. -
: Indira Gandhi
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[CTRL] [Fwd: [ThePentagonGuru] House Votes to End Draft Registration (9/9/99)]

1999-10-02 Thread Bill

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is not news but little was reported .

 http://www.house.gov/paul/press/press99/pr090999win.htm

 House Votes to End Draft Registration

 Majority Agrees with Paul that Selective Service Should End

 WASHINGTON, DC -- The House of Representatives voted Wednesday night to
 terminate the Selective Service System, saving taxpayers $250 million over
 the next 10 years while ending the "systematic abuse of the civil liberties"
 of millions of Americans.

 The vote was 232 to 187.

 "Not only is the notion of involuntary servitude at odds with our system of
 law and tradition of liberty, but it is not in keeping with the needs and
 demands of a 21st Century defense program," said US Rep. Ron Paul (R, Texas),
 who championed the cause to end the Selective Service program. He introduced
 HR 1812, the Selective Service Stand-by Act. The measure would have put the
 system into a deep hibernation, while transferring the funds to veterans
 programs.

 "I'm pleased my colleagues in Congress have sided with me in saying that the
 time to end the draft is long overdue. Under the misguided rhetoric of
 national defense, our nation has for far too long acted in a manner contrary
 to liberty; it is illogical to assume one can protect liberty by violating
 it."

 Rep. Paul said the inconsistency of the program was brought closer to home
 just prior to his grandson's 18th birthday. His grandson received a card in
 the mail from Selective Service reminding him to register.

 "By sending him the card, the government demonstrated that even without
 registering they knew who he was, how old he was and where he was. Selective
 Service is a needless program."

 The bipartisan vote was to defeat an amendment to the Veterans
 Administration/HUD appropriation package that would have restored full
 funding to the Selective Service program, funding that was removed by the
 legislation.

 Besides saving several hundred million dollars, Members of Congress
 recognized the wisdom of such men as the late US Senator Robert Taft and
 former President Ronald Reagan.

 Senator Taft once said, "A compulsory draft ... is far more typical of
 totalitarian nations than of democratic nations. The theory behind it leads
 directly to totalitarianism. It is absolutely opposed to the principles of
 individual liberty."

 President Reagan said, "[T]he most fundamental objection to draft
 registration is moral... a draft or draft registration destroys the very
 values that our society is committed to defending."

 In addition, a Department of Defense report found that Selective Service
 could be ended "with no effect on military mobilization requirements, little
 effect on the time it would take to mobilize, and no measurable effect on
 military recruitment."

 Instead, Rep. Paul said, military recruitment and retention would be greatly
 improved by ending the practice of putting American troops in harms' way when
 there is no national security interest at stake, while at the same time
 improving benefits and living up to commitments made to veterans.

 

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[CTRL] WHY MARS ORBITER WAS NOT LOST

1999-10-02 Thread earthman

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Ah, correct me if I am wrong...60 ml is 96 km
or 85 km is is 53 ml..
How the hell can it be a mistake from converting imperial to metric..
..."likely" reason..
And the two different teams of engineers must have been from different
countries.,,
How can they admit to such stupidity?How is it that we can accept it?

I must have missed somethinglet me read it again

Peter

WHY MARS ORBITER WAS LOST

NASA announced Thursday September 30th the likely reason the Mars
Climate Orbiter was lost. On September 23rd, the spacecraft apparently
passed only 60 km from the Martian surface, rather than the planned
close approach of 140 to 150 km. Engineers consider 85 km the minimum
safe altitude for a flyby. A preliminary investigation revealed that a
mismatch of figures occurred because one team of engineers had used
English units of measure while another used metric. Edward Weiler,
NASA's Associate Administrator for Space Science, explained, "People
sometimes make errors. The problem here was not the error, it was the
failure of NASA's systems engineering, and the checks and balances in
our processes to detect the error. That's why we lost the spacecraft."
Two panels continue to study the mission failure. The next mission in
queue for the red planet is Mars Polar Lander, which arrives December
3rd.

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Re: [CTRL] WHY MARS ORBITER WAS NOT LOST

1999-10-02 Thread ASu2431426

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Peter

Agreed.I thought NASA  used metric only ?

Do you know any other large organization that uses two systems of measurement.

Something odd here.

ASU?

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[CTRL] It's DA LAW!

1999-10-02 Thread Das GOAT

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+-- Bizarre Laws --+
Texas

A recently passed anticrime law requires criminals to give
their victims 24 hours notice, either orally or in writing,
and to explain the nature of the crime to be committed.

The entire Encyclopedia Britannica is banned in Texas because
it contains a formula for making beer at home.

It is illegal to take more than three sips of beer at a time
while standing.

You can be legally married by publicly introducing a person
as your husband or wife 3 times.



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[CTRL] Going Postal (With Style!)

1999-10-02 Thread Das GOAT

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 from http://www.theonion.com/onion3535/disgruntled_ninja.htm


DISGRUNTLED NINJA SILENTLY KILLS 12 CO-WORKERS

 [Image] Above: A 1996 photo of Azuma Copier employees,
 including Tenchumaru (center).

 SKOKIE, IL--Toshiro Tenchumaru, a 34-year-old ninja and
longtime employee at Azuma Copier Corporation in Skokie,
stealthily took the lives of 12 co-workers Monday after suffering
what investigators theorize was "a breakdown due to job-related
stress."
 The disgruntled ninja was later captured by police while
attempting to flee on foot across telephone lines.
 Tenchumaru, who, according to office manager Diane
Ellsworth, had been "unusually quiet lately, even for him," was
reportedly deeply upset about his worklife.
 Following a 9 a.m. staff meeting in which management
discussed the possibility of eliminating Tenchumaru's position as
Special Secretary For Nocturnal Liquidation, the ninja rose, gave
a shallow bow and returned to his shadowy cubicle.
 Ellsworth said that shortly thereafter, she and other
employees could hear what sounded like a Shinto
death-consecration ceremony, as well as "sharpening
sounds," coming from Tenchumaru's cubicle.
 The first deaths are believed to have occurred just minutes
later.
 "After the meeting, I was having lunch in the company
cafeteria with Eric [Miller], James [von Lustbader] and Frank
[Clavell]," office comptroller Timothy Marzano said.  "I looked
down for a moment to take a bite of my sandwich, and when I
looked up, Frank's head had been cut off and placed on his tray,
Eric had been sliced in half so neatly that his hair was still
in place, and there was blood dripping from the ceiling directly
above James' chair."
 Von Lustbader's dismembered body was later found inside the
ceiling.
 Sales supervisor Irene Young, whose cubicle was directly
across from Tenchumaru's and who on several occasions had
questioned the wisdom of having an office ninja, was the next
victim, killed instantly when a single thrust from a razor-sharp
_ninjato-katana_ sword pierced her cubicle wall, sheared through
her computer monitor, and plunged through her heart.
 Tenchumaru then snapped the neck of associate marketing
coordinator Donald Brodhagen, shredded the body of office manager
Meg Whalen with 18 throwing stars, and used his Butterfly Soul
Razor technique to stop the heart of office intern Ian Dallas
long enough to drive the intern's nose through his brain with a
single punch.
 After killing Dallas, Tenchumaru ran along the tops of
cubicles to reach the office of senior sales supervisor Leonard
Haller, who was hit with eight arrows from Tenchumaru's
_saisumimen_, a whisper-quiet recurved bow of ancient design and
unparalleled craftsmanship.
 "Tenchumaru's first arrow severed Haller's vocal cords,
silencing him without hitting any of the major arteries or veins
in the neck and without penetrating deeply enough to touch the
spinal column," Skokie Police Department ballistics expert Ken
Draper said.  "An arrow was then fired into each of the seven
_henzoitoichi_, or major nerve clusters, of Haller's body. Though
the hits themselves were not fatal, the excruciating pain killed
Haller within 10 seconds."
 Four more Azuma employees were later found dead, two of them
eviscerated, one garrotted and one impaled upon cunningly folded
quarterly report folders.
 Forensics experts said none of the bodies seemed to indicate
that the victims were aware of the ninja's presence at the moment
of death.
 Tenchumaru was relatively new to America, having been
transferred from the Azuma Ninja Clan's mountain headquarters in
Japan's Hokkaido Prefecture to Skokie in December 1998. Following
the brutal slaying of his Grandmaster at the hands of a rival
school, Tenchumaru requested permission to perform the Ritual of
Blood Revenge, but was transferred to the Skokie office instead.
 Co-workers said that despite Tenchumaru's quiet demeanor, he
would occasionally voice dissatisfaction with his work
environment.
 "He didn't say much. Half the time, I didn't even know he
was around," payroll secretary Georgette Billups said.  "But when
he did talk, it was usually to complain about how hard it was to
get a decent cup of tea around the office, or how he shouldn't
have to listen to Tim [Marzano] because he wasn't a _daimyo_
warlord, and how the copy machine lacked the beauty and _shibumi_
of hand-brushed calligraphy. But I honestly didn't think it would
come to this. I mean, he was basically a shy guy."
 Tenchumaru has issued a statement through his lawyer asking
that he be allowed to perform ritual _seppuku_ suicide in his
cell. He also requested that Senjuro Akechi, master of
_Myojinsoga_-style swordsmanship and CEO of Azumacorp East, be
his second in the ceremony.


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[CTRL] HMO Racketeering

1999-10-02 Thread Das GOAT

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Judge Dismisses Racketeering Suit

By MICHAEL RUBINKAM
.c The Associated Press

PHILADELPHIA (AP) - A consumer group plans to appeal a judge's dismissal of
one of the first lawsuits in the nation to accuse a health maintenance
organization of racketeering.

The lawsuit said Aetna Inc. promised quality medical care, but encouraged
widespread cost-cutting and penalized doctors who didn't increase their
patient load. The lawsuit, filed in April on behalf of nearly 6 million Aetna
customers, claimed the abuses were so widespread they constituted a pattern
of fraud.

U.S. District Court Judge John P. Fullam this week agreed with Aetna, the
nation's largest health insurer, which admitted that its advertising claims
of being committed to ``maintaining and improving quality health care'' were
``mere puffery,'' but didn't amount to fraud.

Fullam on Wednesday rejected the plaintiffs' argument that ``in every case,
individual physicians ... will be moved to put their own economic interests
ahead of their patients' welfare.''

Even if that happened, the fault would be with the doctor, not the HMO, the
judge said.

The Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights, a California-based consumer
group representing the plaintiffs, called the decision a ``temporary
setback.''

``The fact that the nation's largest health care company admitted in this
litigation that its commitment to quality health care was 'mere puffery' is a
devastating admission that we intend to fully explore,'' foundation president
Harvey Rosenfield said Friday.

``It's going to have a tremendous impact on this company's reputation and
ability to service the marketplace.''

An Aetna spokeswoman did not return a call for comment Friday. The company's
U.S. Healthcare unit, based in Blue Bell, Pa., provides health insurance to
21 million Americans.

The Aetna case was one of the first to accuse an HMO of racketeering, a
charge originally aimed at organized crime. A similar lawsuit filed under
federal racketeering laws against U.S. Healthcare in 1988 also was dismissed.

A series of Supreme Court rulings over the past two years have permitted a
broader use of racketeering laws and allowed more lawsuits by people who
claim to have been harmed by a pattern of illegal activities.

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[CTRL] Dr. Laura Guns

1999-10-02 Thread Bob Stokes

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 Subj: Dr. Laura Schlessinger: Time for good Americans to get guns
 Date:  10/1/99 9:28:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time
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 For those of you who do not know, Dr. Laura Schlessinger is on national
 radio, and covers a VERY large audience. She is beginning to see the
 importance of the 2nd amendment! She used to be quite anti-gun! But that
 is changing!

 She gives her snail mail address for people to write her in regards to
 her article below. It would be great if we could send her pro 2nd amendment
 books, articles and tapes, and just a personalized letter, for she can and
 will be VERY instrumental in reaching the masses, due to her national status.

 NOW IS OUR CHANCE FOR A POSITIVE LIGHT TO BE SHED ON THE 2nd AMENDMENT BY
 SOMEONE THAT CAN REACH THE MASSES! WRITE HER NOW!

 Please send correspondence to Dr. Laura in care of Universal Press
 Syndicate, 4520 Main St., Kansas City, Mo. 64111.
 1999 DR. LAURA SCHLESSINGER

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 PUBLICATION: The Regina Leader-Post
 DATE: 99.09.08
 SECTION: Lifestyles
 PAGE: C2
 COLUMN: Dr. Laura
 BYLINE: Schlessinger, Laura

 Sadly, it's time for good Americans to get guns

 I'm right in the middle of a big change of attitude about a very important
 subject. And I know a lot of my readers and listeners to my radio program
 may be shocked. But people who have known me over time know that I'm someone
 who evolves in public. That is, when I start changing my mind about something
 or discover new information or some truth about my own life or life in
general,
 I'm usually pretty straightforward about the process with my colleagues and
 my fans.

 The first event that caused me to rethink my position on this topic was the
 shootings in Atlanta, where a man went into two office buildings and gunned
 down total strangers, then killed himself in his car later that day. I
thought
 about the difference it might have made - lives saved instead of lost - if
 someone in one of those offices had been armed. The murderer might well
 have been foiled in his reign of terror before so many innocent people died.

 That thought caused me to remember a time several years ago when I felt
 completely safe in my hometown of Los Angeles. It was after the major
 earthquake in 1994, and the National Guard was everywhere. There they were,
 it seemed, on every corner - uniformed, armed, ammunition slung across their
 chests, ready. As I recall, there was absolutely no crime in Los Angeles at
 that time - no break-ins, no holdups, no car-jackings. Nada. The bad guys
 obviously didn't want to risk getting shot.

 I went on the air then and said, "Gee, why can't these guys just stay here?"
 and everyone freaked out. Now, I knew then and know now that that's not what
 the National Guard is for, but it was nice to feel so secure for those few
weeks.

 In thinking about the difference an armed civilian or security guard might
have
 made in Atlanta, I thought back to my trip to Israel this summer and how many
 people walking around, especially on the West Bank, were armed out of a
genuine
 and persistent need to protect themselves. No one was shooting. There was no
 display of firepower or anything like that. It was just taken for granted.

 I know that's a unique situation, because from its inception Israel has been
 under constant attack by neighboring countries as well as terrorists. So they
 have a demonstrable need for self-defense. We, on the other hand, are self-
 destructing. We don't need an external force. We are breeding our own evil
 here. Child killers, killer children, private militias, home-grown and
imported
 terrorists, to say nothing of old-fashioned, garden variety psychopaths and
 criminals - all armed and dangerous and now encouraged, educated in evil and
 joined in unholy conspiracy on the World Wide Web.

 There are obviously lots and lots of reasons why our society - once so
revered
 and respected around the world - is unraveling and degenerating. But one of
them
 is the unbridled 

[CTRL] [Fwd: [BIOWAR] Fwd: Is NYC being used for bio-warfare experiments? 9/22/99 NY Times]

1999-10-02 Thread A.C. Szul Jr.

Folks have been wondering the same thing--is it all for real or just a
big 'ole experiment? Anyone from NY, NY on here care to comment?

-A



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Subject: Is NYC being used for bio-warfare experiments? 9/22/99 NY Times
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 20:25:50 -0500 (CDT)

Why does the Federal government want to expand an existing
bio-warfare research lab right off the coast of NYC, the most
populated area in the U.S.? Have 8 million New Yorkers been
chosen as the lab rats in an ongoing bio-medical research
project? Is Mayor Giulianiis bizarre mass daily spraying of toxic
pesticides on NYC part of an experiment or a response to a virus
that already escaped from the lab? Is the mosquito epidemic
merely an excuse to  get people used to being sprayed with
chemicals from the air? Is the timing of todayis NY Times and
yesterdayis Daily News articles on this lab setting us up for some
bad news about what is really behind the encephalitis scare?
Please note: birds are a major part of the experimenting that goes
on at the lab right now. Birds are also exactly where mosquitoes
get the encephalitis virus. While a mosquito may not easily fly
from Plum Island to Queens a bird can do it without any
problem. Do the people of NY deserve answers before any more
spraying is undertaken? The NYC Dept. of Health, the Dept. of
Environmental Protection and the Mayoris Emergency
Management Services team are unable to explain their total lack
of air sampling on the distribution of Malathion and the other
two poison gasses being used. They claim they are using three
ounces of Malathion per acre yet the planes make repeated
passes over the same area meaning they have no idea how much
of the chemical is being dropped per City block. Last Saturday
my home in Park Slope was sprayed nine times by the same
helicopter. Is Mayor Giuliani bravely trying to protect public
health or is he the Mengele for the New World Order?
-Robert Lederman

NY Times 9/22/99
U.S. Would Use Long Island Lab to Study Food Terrorism

Related Article
i At Bleak Asian Site, Killer Germs Survive (June 2, 1999)

By JUDITH MILLER

  PLUM ISLAND, N.Y. -- Alarmed at what the Clinton
Administration views as the growing threat of biological
terrorism to America's food supply, the Agriculture Department
is seeking money to turn the Plum Island Animal Disease Center,
one mile off Long Island, into a top security laboratory where
some of the most dangerous diseases known to man or beast can
be studied.

The Agriculture Department already operates here at Plum Island,
just across Gardiners Bay from the wealthy Hamptons, a
laboratory where such dreaded foreign animal diseases as
foot-and-mouth and African swine fever are examined. But the
department is seeking $75 million this year and $140 million
over the next two years to upgrade the center to handle even more
dangerous animal diseases that can affect humans.

While there are four civilian and military laboratories in America
equipped to study such diseases -- technically known as
Biosafety Level Four facilities -- their work is focused on germs
that primarily affect humans, not domestic animals or plants.

Officials say the proposed expansion and upgrading of Plum
Island is part of a new effort by the Clinton Administration to
deter terrorists who might spread germs to destroy American
crops or livestock for political purposes or financial gain, a threat
they now see as equal to that of terrorist attacks aimed at people.

"Given the contribution of crop and animal exports to the
nation's prosperity, we must do far more to protect our plant and
animal resources," said Senator Richard G. Lugar, the Indiana
Republican and co-author of legislation in 1991 and 1996 that
provided money to bolster defenses against unconventional
terrorism and stop the proliferation of such weapons.

"This is not about food per se; Americans would not go hungry if
we were attacked," said Floyd P. Horn, the administrator of the
Agricultural Research Service, who helped persuade the
Administration to include his agency in January in its
counter-terrorism plans and programs. "But such an attack, or
even a credible threat, would severely disrupt America's
economic and social infrastructure for weeks, if not months or
years."

Plum Island, which was once operated by the United States Army
Chemical Corps, was designated as an animal-disease research
center and transferred to the Agriculture Department in the early
1950's. It is already what scientists call an agricultural "Biosafety
Level Three" center, which means that its containment areas,
which hold germs dangerous to animals, have filtered air, sealed
doors and negative air pressure that prevents germs from leaking
out of the labs. Liquid waste is decontaminated.

All who enter the labs wear white lab coats and slippers. After
leaving the containment 

[CTRL] Reverend Blair

1999-10-02 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From {{linque at bottom}}

{{Begin article}}
  10/3/99
  1:02 AM BST

Mick Hume
Editor
Save us from preachy prime ministers and backsliding bishops
To judge by the government's recent pronouncements, one could be forgiven for
thinking that children need to be taught to read primarily so that they can
study the latest pamphlet to help them cope with the problems of Parenting.
Meanwhile, the main aim of mental arithmetic is apparently to enable little
Jack to calculate how much of his pocket money he would be fined by the Child
Support Agency for impregnating Jill.
In launching his crusade to find a 'new moral purpose' for the nation in
September, Tony Blair and education secretary David Blunkett emphasised the
importance of the government's plans to teach children New Labour's values of
good citizenship. In the age of education, education and education, it seems
that the new three Rs of teaching are to be responsibility, responsibility and
responsibility. So much for 'the happiest days of your life'.
At once pious and pompous, Blair's announcement of a moral crusade revealed a
nervous political elite staring into the hole at the heart of New Britain; a
country where, the fearful government seems to imagine, young people copulate
in the streets after dark while their slovenly parents worship at the altar of
Who Wants to be a Millionaire? Yet for all the bold talk by Blair and his
apostles, their initiative also betrays a loss of nerve about how to fill the
spiritual vacuum.
It is easy enough to declare the need for a new moral purpose in a Sunday
newspaper interview; it is a very different matter to work out what that might
mean in practice and win public support for it. So the government is happy
enough to prescribe lectures, curfews, homework and cold baths for 12-year olds
who cannot answer back. But in the same breath, ministers will emphasise that
they are 'not here to preach to adults' about how they live their lives. As we
used to say to bullies before the school counsellors cornered the market: why
don't you pick on somebody your own size?
If there is one thing worse than a moralising prime minister, however, it is an
archbishop with the principles of a backsliding politician. When Tony Blair
returned from his Continental holiday and called for a moral crusade, Britain's
church leaders looked at him as if he had imbibed too much vin rouge. What
seemed to upset leading churchmen was not the rather vacuous character of Mr
Blair's crusade, but the fact that he had dared to suggest that it might be
okay to make any judgements at all, and to teach people something about right
and wrong.
Dr Carey, the Archbishop of Canterbury, issued a 'friendly warning' to the
prime minister. 'Morality cannot be imposed', he warned his friend, 'and
archbishops are living proof of this. You just cannot say to people, "This is
what you must do".' This was quite a remarkable statement coming from the
leader of the established Christian church in Britain. After all, isn't there
something in the Bible about telling people 'This is what thou shalt and shalt
not do'? Or perhaps the latest rewrite of the scriptures has replaced the 10
commandments with an awareness campaign designed to help people make informed
lifestyle choices.
The old Tory prime minister Harold Macmillan once famously suggested that
politicians should leave preaching to the bishops. The bishops have now told
our preachy prime minister not to expect any back-up from them. It is one thing
for politicians to court popularity by claiming that they don't want to preach
to people. But when archbishops themselves eschew the pulpit, there is
something more than spin at stake. Dr Carey's nervous response to Tony Blair's
crusade confirmed that even those who supposedly speak with authority from on-
high have become infected by the epidemic of non-judgemental relativism now
plaguing society.
The churches typify the way that old-fashioned British institutions (from the
Tory Party and the TUC to the monarchy and the police) are desperately trying
to redefine their role in changing times. What all of them have in common is an
inability to hold the line. As people have lost faith in traditional
Christianity, the churches have retreated from religious principles and moral
absolutism in a bid to make themselves appear more 'relevant' to the real
world. In Britain AD (After Diana), the Church of England in particular has
adapted to the self-obsessions of new-age spirituality, its leaders speaking in
the new tongues of eco-speak and psychobabble. Fear and judgement are out,
feelings and empathy are in.
Take the question of funeral rites, over which the church and its symbols have
long exercised something of a monopoly. Last year the Bishop of Salisbury
announced that, henceforth at C of E funerals, mourners would be encouraged to
place teddy bears on coffins and to talk about how they feel. Then the General
Synod of the Church of England proposed that 

[CTRL] Modoc rocks

1999-10-02 Thread earthman

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Hey people,  Larry has quite a few of those rock drawings up on his site
now, so check it out again..

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/8020/interestingstuff.html

Can anyone help with the following.
"I sure wish I could find out someone who knows about these symbols, etc."

"I haven't a clue as to what the Rorschact Test is"

Here are a couple of our corespondances.

Do you mean that it is actually in colour or is that just the scanning?...


I scanned a deer head in Grayscale which is BW and a small color area
showed up, then I cropped it and enlarged it. I haven't a clue how the color
got there.

Hey: I haven't a clue as to what the Rorschact Test is. I don't know how
much you know about scanning Peter, so I'll explain a little on how I scan
the color one. When you scan something it always comes out huge originally,
like 4-5MB, don't know why. So when I originally scan something it's that
big. On the one that had the little color area I cropped the little color
area which was approximately 1/4" x 1/4". I then adjusted the the focus, +1,
then enlarged, then adjusted the focus, +1. I kept doing that until I
reached 7.1MB. Then I cropped the piece I sent you. I sure wish I could find
out someone who knows about these symbols, etc. I really appreciate al your
help!

Peter
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Re: [CTRL] mind control victim - may be triggering for survivors

1999-10-02 Thread Smart News

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Hi !

"Mind Control Victim Awarded $1 Million" published 6/99 by Uri Dowbenko is
available at:

http://208.138.42.193/forum/a37ef8e1f479f.htm

I apologize if this is a repeat for anyone.

Sincerely,  Neil Brick

All crimes are alleged.

U.S. government mind control programs, like MK-Ultra and Monarch, directed
against helpless victims--human guinea pigs--have been virtually ignored by
the Big Media Cartel.

On Feb. 27, 1999, however, U.S. District Court Judge Warren Urbom found
former Franklin SL manager Lawrence E. King guilty of numerous crimes
committed against mind control victim Paul A. Bonacci.

King, serving a 15-year sentence for his role in the theft of $40 million
from Franklin, an Omaha, Neb., credit union, was ordered by Judge Urbom to
pay Bonacci $800,000 in compensatory damages and an additional $200,000 in
punitive damages.

This legal judgement against a notorious perpetrator of satanic-ritual child
abuse is unprecedented.

In the Memorandum of Decision, Judge Urbom wrote, "King continually subjected
the plaintiff [Bonacci] to repeated sexual assaults, false imprisonment,
infliction of extreme emotional distress, organized and directed satanic
rituals, forced the plaintiff to 'scavenge' for children to be a part of the
defendant King's sexual abuse and pornography ring, forced the plaintiff to
engage in numerous sexual contacts with the defendant King and others and
participate in deviate sexual games and masochistic orgies with other minor
children.

"He [Bonacci] has suffered burns, broken fingers, beatings of the head and
face and other indignities by the wrongful actions of the defendant King,"
the judge declared. "In addition to the misery of going through the
experiences just related over a period of eight years [1980-1988], the
plaintiff has suffered the lingering results to the present time. "He
[Bonacci] is a victim of multiple personality disorder, involving as many as
14 distinct personalities aside from his primary personality," wrote the
judge. "He has given up a desired military career and received threats on his
life. He suffers from sleeplessness, has bad dreams, has difficulty holding a
job, is fearful that others are following him, fears getting killed, has
depressing flashbacks, and is verbally violent on occasion, all in connection
with the multiple personality disorder and caused by the wrongful activities
of the defendant King."

Monarch Project
The horrendous Monarch Project "refers to young people in America who were
victims of mind control experiments run either by U.S. government agencies
such as the Central Intelligence Agency or military intelligence agencies,"
writes DeCamp.

"The story told by Monarch victims--one of whom was Paul Bonacci--is that
they were tortured for the purpose of creating 'multiple personalities'
within them," DeCamp continues from his book. "These multiple personalities
could then be programmed--as spies, 'drug mules,' prostitutes or assassins."

An article by Anton Chaitkin, quoted in the book, states that "professionals
probing the child victims of 'Monarch' say there are clearly two responsible
elements at work: the government/military, and cooperating satanic (or more
exactly pagan) cults. These are multi-generation groups, whose parents donate
their own children--who are proudly called 'bloodline' or simply 'blood'
cultists--to be smashed with drugs and electric shock and shaped. Other
children are kidnapped and sold into this hell, or are brought in gradually
through day care situations.

"Paul Bonacci and other child victims have given evidence in great depth on
the central role of Lt. Col. Michael Aquino in this depravity," continues
Chaitkin. "Aquino, alleged to have recently retired from an active military
role, was long the leader of an Army psychological warfare section which drew
on his 'expertise' and personal practices in brainwashing, Satanism, Nazism,
homosexual pedophilia and murder."

DeCamp's victory in court and the million dollar judgement is a vindication
of mind control survivors Paul Bonacci, Alisha Owens and others who were
falsely imprisoned to keep them from testifying against their abusers.

Police and FBI Cover-Up
According to the sworn testimony of Noreen Gosch, an activist on behalf of
"Missing Children," whose own 12-year-old son Johnny, a West Des Moines, Iowa
paperboy kidnapped in 1991, was drugged and sold into prostitution and
pornography. “There was no law on the books in Iowa or most any other state
in the country specifying that the police would have to act sooner than 72
hours—even though we had five witnesses that could describe the car, the man
and various details of the kidnapping. So I wrote the first piece of
legislation which became the Johnny Gosch Bill.

Gosch also alleges that the FBI were active in quashing a TV expose. “Just
prior to the ‘America’s Most Wanted’ story going on the air…within a week or
two of airtime, the FBI in Quantico, Virg. contacted ‘America’s Most 

[CTRL] [Fwd: PLOT TO ASSASSINATE VICE PRESIDENT GORE?]

1999-10-02 Thread A.C. Szul Jr.





Home Page
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/
Sherman H. Skolnick
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

PLOT TO ASSASSINATE VICE PRESIDENT GORE?
http://www.skolnicksreport.com/goreassn.html

PLEASE NOTE: the first sending of this story on Wednesday, July 14, 1999,
WAS APPARENTLY BLOCKED BY THE E-MAIL COMPUTER OF AMERITECH.NET. WHAT DO YOU
CALL THAT? CENSORSHIP. Apparently, the Establishment did not want this
discussed on the same day as the Chicago Sun-Times Story, 7/14/99. Also
please note: Admiral Engen, expert on Air Traffic Control, former head of
FAA, was murdered just after the apparent assassination attempt on Gore.
The press fakers said his glider somehow fell apart in the air, killing
him. Some believe he was among the small group of admirals and generals
that have since 1995 sought to arrest their Commander-in-Chief Clinton for
treason. If Clinton arrested them for mutiny, they intended, if they
survived and were not assassinted, to defend themselves at Courts Martial
charging HIM with documented treason which they had. We are about the only
ones writing about these very brave flag officers, and about certain murder
plots. Savvy historians compare the current dark period of American history
with that of Caligula in Roman times.POST THIS STORY FAR AND WIDE FOR THE
PUBLIC GOOD. Sherman H. Skolnick 7/15/99.Message-ID:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 14 Jul 1999 14:26:50 -0700
From: Sherman Skolnickone X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en]C-AIT (Win95; I)
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PLOT TO ASSASSINATE VICE PRESIDENT GORE? by Sherman H.Skolnick,
moderator/producer, public access Cable TV Program "Broadsides" in Chicago
and chairman/founder, Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts

Two or more airplanes were all headed reportedly for a crash with Air Force
Two carrying Vice President Albert Gore, Jr., as his plane flew over the
Chicago area. The incident apparently occurred July 9, 1999, but was kept
embargoed, that is, delayed or suppressed, until an eleven paragraph story
ran in the Chicago Sun-Times, July 14, 1999. So far, others in the mass
media have steered clear of the story? Why? Like the murder of President
Kennedy, were the mass media either informed in advance or ordered how,if
at all, to run the story?

One of two major newspapers in Chicago, the Sun-Times is owned by British
tough-nose financier Conrad Black jointly with reportedly mysterious Red
Chinese and ethnic Chinese billionaires who have an unpublicized armlock on
the Chicago markets. Their fortunes based reportedly on dope smuggling into
the U.S. primarily through Chicago, of high purity heroin called "China
White", clandestine weapons deals, and the harvesting of human body parts
sold to U.S. hospitals. The body parts, sold as casually as auto pieces,
are from political prisoners in mainland China arbitrarily condemned to
death as the orders come in for hearts, livers, kidneys, and such. [So as
not to damage the human body parts, the political prisoners are not shot
but rather, beheaded.] The illicit funds are a massive river of loot
reportedly laundered on the Chicago Board of Trade, the Chicago Mercantile
Exchange, and the Chicago Board Options Exchange. Although an open secret,
major newspapers, such as the Sun-Times, and other financial papers like
the Wall Street Journal, publish virtually nothing about the Chinese and
the Chicago money laundries. The Chinese funds are disguised as soybeans
and foreign currency trading.

Are the Chinese through the Sun-Times story blackmailing Clinton into
silence about nuclear secrets sold or given to the Chinese? Under a a
headline "Quirk of radar jars VP's plane", the Sun-Times had details such
as "Gore was in the government 747 traveling from Seattle back to
Washington when the pilot received urgent instructions from air traffic
controllers to make a jarring 60 degree turn to avoid a crash. Radar showed
a second plane 25 miles away--only a couple of minutes apart--at the same
33,000-foot altitude and in conflict with the vice president's aircraft.
Air Force Two was traveling about 600 m.p.h." According to other sources,
the FAA and the Sun-Times are reportedly concealing that yet a third plane
likewise almost crashed into Gore's plane.

Aviation sources familiar with air traffic control say they never heard of
a situation where two or more airplanes were all headed for a crash with
another plane. Foul play, they contend, should rightfully be suspected when
two OR MORE airplanes were all somehow steered into a possibe crash with
the Vice President's plane.

Here are some other factors that assassination researchers would consider:
1. Reportedly fronting for the Chinese in Chicago in the reputed
clandestine deals as well as blackmail and extortion, is Rahm Emanuel, for
many years Clinton White House Senior Advisor and now a heavy-hitter with
Wasserstein  Perrella,
Chicago 

[CTRL] [Fwd: sacbee Voices - William F. Buckley]

1999-10-02 Thread A.C. Szul Jr.

FYI. Interesting piece by Mr. Buckley.
-A





 http://www.sacbee.com/voices/national/buckley/buckley_19990925.html

Here is an opinion on Buchanan's historical revisionism by the dean of American 
conservative columnists. A footnote to Mykola's post.




Re: [CTRL] Going Postal (With Style!)

1999-10-02 Thread k

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Better watch it.  If Sarah Brady sees this she might think it's
true and go after everybodys butter knives.

Kathleen

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[CTRL] [Fwd: quo warranto]

1999-10-02 Thread Bill

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 Alan Bacon wrote:

 Yes, quo warranto is what we gave Texas in December 1995
 

 Like I said, the Affidavit of Administrative Fraud worked
 BEST for me,
 but you have also to let them know you no longer volunteer
 for the system.

 See: first, second, third and fourth (letters to the IRS)
 !!!

 If they do NOT respond within 10 days, it is set (ab
 initio, nunc pro tunc)
 All that means is "that's it, period, from the get go" !!!

 I am not sure I put our quo warranto up in the Edification
 Library, but
 see Declare, Independ and go to www.texasrepublic.com
 for the documents of our "throwing off the Military Rule"
 !!!

 Alan

 Bill, I am going to try to make a picture on my paint
 program
 suggesting the way to make the pouch insert . . . it's
 like only
 so big anyway . . . I got a company truck on my 90 day
 review !!!

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[CTRL] Dr. Hulda Clarke arrested, Oct4 arraignment San Diego

1999-10-02 Thread David Crockett Williams

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If you are interested in the right to make your own decisions about your
healthcare options, this might be a good time to begin to take a stand. It's
time that the large number of Americans who are disenchanted with government
malfeasance in favor of large pharmaceutical firms make themselves heard. We
cannot afford to remain silent while alternative medical researchers are
rounded up and jailed, and while herbs and other simple, inexpensive and
safe alternatives are suppressed or even criminalized in order to safeguard
the profits of Monsanto, Searle, Ciba, Novartis, and other purveyors of
poisons  biotech/biowar.Pressure is being brought to bear in many arenas of
government.

Options In Health Care -- Emergency Alert!  PLEASE HELP

What constitutes healing? Who is deciding what constitutes healing and what
are they basing their decisions on?


70 year old Dr. Hulda Clark, Ph.D., N.D. has been arrested and is being held
in a facility in San Diego, CA, awaiting extradition to Brown County,
Indiana.  She has been charged with practicing medicine without a license by
the District Attorney's office of her former place of residence.

 Dr. Clark, best known for her books The Cure For All Cancers and The Cure
For All Diseases, as well as for her invention of the "Zapper," has been a
public figure intently dedicated to spreading knowledge of healing
techniques, and going against conventional medicine's monopoly on health
care.

Her arrest is an example and a warning to all Americans of the problem we
collectively face: a health care system with few real options for treatment,
fueled by greed, and fraught with criminality.  There is substantial
indication of possible systematic suppression of alternative therapies that
threaten the interests of conventional medicine.

There is an underground railroad of people in this country who have
dedicated their lives to health and healing, and to the fight for freedom
for real options in health care.  Increasingly, these people who are in
truth trying to help people, are being persecuted by a system which
arbitrarily decides what is effective and legal treatment.  These decisions
often seem to be based on what is clearly profitable, as in pharmaceutical
companies and their drugs, rather than what may be the most beneficial.

(*Indiana law states effectiveness of treatments is not a defense. Does this
help the public?*)

More and more people in this country are becoming highly disillusioned with
our health care system, and for very valid reasons.  It is not enough to
await slow and cumbersome legislation on the national level, which is
unlikely to address the real issues.  Dr. Clark's troubles represent but a
small part of a gross problem in this country, and bring us to a higher
platform.  It is time to ask the most pertinent questions.

What constitutes healing? Who is deciding what constitutes healing and what
are they basing their decisions on?  Why do we have so few real options in
health care?  Why are people who are going against the grain, and trying to
establish footing in alternative rather than conventional medicine, more and
more often finding themselves in trouble?  Why are herbal supplement
companies faced with regulation by the FDA that puts a stranglehold on their
industry?  Why are people who are selling health products on the Internet
increasingly being investigated?

What organizations are being formed by our government to enforce strict,
impossible and arbitrary regulations, and to ensure a monopoly on health
care? (If you have any information regarding this issue please write ASAP).

WE NEED YOUR HELP.  If you are familiar with Dr. Clark's work, and would
like to support us in her defense, the following are ways in which you can
help.

1) We will need as many letters and phone calls as possible.  If her
research has benefited your health, please help us by sharing this
information.  Addresses and phone numbers to follow in second post.

2) There is going to be a hearing for her on Monday morning in San Diego.
We are asking everyone who wants to support Dr. Clark, and is able, to come
to the courthouse at 220 W. Broadway, downtown San Diego, 2nd floor,
Department 12, 8:35am Monday October 4.

Please join in the fight for freedom in health care!

If you feel you are being unfairly attacked or investigated for your work in
health care, and are willing to share your story, please write.  If you have
any information or evidence suggesting unethical connections between the FDA
and pharmaceutical companies, please write.  If you work in the health care
or herbal supplement industry, and are facing regulations that would
effectively stifle your work, please write.

If you have stories, regarding successful treatment by suppressed therapies,
please write. If you can contribute in any way possible to a collective
fight to increase our freedom in health care, please do!

This is a very complex and difficult situation we find ourselves in.
Clearly 

Re: [CTRL] Hemp birdseed bust Customs under pressure, acted on phony info from DEA

1999-10-02 Thread pmeares

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Kris Millegan wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 Not if you stand-up to them and start the "legal" trail that will dismiss the
 case and/or give youa good trial base and a strong appeal. YOU HAVE TO CALL
 THEIR BLUFF.

 Iy you take the right tack, and not slip into their game. Common LAW and the
 constitution will prevail. One must declare Quo Warranto to arresting agents
 and b to the judge before arraingment. If the judge doesn't pay attention and
 respond,  he is opening himself up to a personal suit without the shield of
 his bench.  Act as your own lawyer, understand that you have a great amount
 of unalienable rights and if you start the process of quo warranto, they have
 to repond. If is all corrupt, then . . . pay money. But most places it will
 work because, the actions are under colour of law. It works, I have done it
 and walked.

Quo Warranto means simply, 'by what warrant'
(by what right). e.g., by what warrant do
you have the legitimate authority to violate
one's rights using mere color of law ['that
which on the surface appears to be law,
but is actually no law' -- which today
makes up the vast majority of 'law' that
is currently enforced by the terrocrats
(terrorist-bureaucrats)].

Writs of Quo Warranto are used for the
'disillusion of a corporation' that has
violated its corporate charter (in the
case of 'da gubbmint': the constitution).
Anyone can easily get a copy of these
writs by copying them off at their
local law library in the collection
of green books containing the 'Practice
and Pleadings' forms. They're alphabetized,
so just look under vol. 'Q'; they're not
hard to find.

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[CTRL] ENDTIME predictions ...now it is December 6,1999 thru (13 weekslater) March 6, 2000.]]

1999-10-02 Thread Nicola Molloy

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They also have to have the planets in a Star of David formation with 4
Gemini on one side.More on that later.
Nicky

Alan DeWalton wrote:

 I try not to get involved in "date-setting" nor in "numerology",
 however I thought the following might be of interest just to
 show how occult-oriented religio-eco-political manipulators may
 themselves be involved in this kind of astrological/occult input
 when it comes to deciding what and when they are going to accomplish
 some of their agendas.

 Sincerely;
 Al

 EXCERPTS from  [UFOpals] ENDTIME predictions (fwd)
 http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1260.cfm

 Antichrist will deliberately set out to "fulfill" each of the
 Messianic prophecies and expectations.
 EXPLANATIONS OF THESE DATES
December 6, 1999 was carefully chosen because of several
 occult
 factors.
 1)  This date produces two (2) sets of '666' .  Remember,
 occultists
 believe that numbers have inherent power, either to
 support your plan of action, or to oppose it.  They believe a
 good plan
 can be unsuccessful simply and only because it was
 implemented on date(s) which did not add up to the right
 numbers.
 Since this date is in December, the 12th month,
 and because 12 is 6 + 6, the month itself provides two (2) 6's.
 Then, the day of the month provides the third 6 to produce a
 '666'.
 The second set of 666, is provided by the three (3) nines in
 the year,
 1999.  Satanists have always viewed a 9 simply as an upside down
 6;
 therefore, the last three digits of the year provide the second
 set of
 '666'.
 2)
 The Moon is in the right phase.When a witch wants
 to perform a "good, positive" spell or event, he or she will
 carry
 this event out during a Full phase or nearly full phase of the
 Moon.  However, when the witch wants to perform an "evil,
 negative" spell or event, he will carry this event out during
 an
 Empty, or nearly empty, phase of the Moon.  As you can see
 from the above Moon Phase Chart for December 6, 1999, the
 Moon is nearly empty. In fact, December 6 is only one day
 before the absolutely empty New Moon.
 3)  This new star will occur during the time period leading
 up to Christmas , possibly enabling the Illuminati to stage one
 of the largest stage productions ever in conjunction with the
 annual celebration of the Christ Child.  As part of this star
 lighting up, a recreation of the trip of the Magi 2,000 years
 ago may
 be reenacted.  Just as these new "Magi" are within a
 matter of days of reaching Bethlehem, this star may suddenly
 appear in
 the sky.  Listen to the words of apostate author and leader, Jay
 Gary,
 writing in his book, The Star of 2000 .  "Now as we approach
 A.D. 2000,
 the spiritual journey of the wise men could be reenacted before
 our eyes
 ... with horses and camels over the original Middle East route."
 [p.
 23-4]
 
   March 6, 2000 was chosen for the appearance of Antichrist
 because of
 several occult factors.
 1)  This date is precisely 13 weeks after an extremely bright
 star had been created by the lighting of Jupiter .  The
 number 13 is an extremely important number to the occultist.
 The occult gematria of numbers lists Number 13 as meaning,
 "Depravity and Rebellion" [Doc Marquis, Former Illuminist
 Witch].  The Bible confirms this meaning of the number 13.
 Remember, Illuminists plan to bring about the New World
 Order by utilizing the most depraved and blackest of all Black
 Magick witchcraft, so this time period between the advent of
 the
 Jupiter Star and the appearance of Antichrist fits
 perfectly.
 2) The Moon Phase is absolutely correct.  Once again, when you
 check March 6, you will see that the moon is the blackest
 possible, i.e., the New Moon.  Since the appearance of
 Antichrist is going to be the blackest day in human history,we
 find it only fitting that the Moon Phase would be the blackest
 possible. This date may very well see the most powerful Black
 Magick witchcraft in world history, as the Man of Perdition
 appears.
 3) The planets in our Solar System are lined up in a favorable
 way according to occult Astrology .  Satanists are huge
 believers in Astrology.  They would never think of staging the
 appearance of their beloved Antichrist unless the Astrological
 signs are most favorable.  This lineup is most favorable.
 We checked the lineup of the planets in our Solar System on
 December 6, 1999, and found no discernable lineup; but there
 is a significant lineup on March 6, 2000.  When you look at
 this
 chart, bear in mind that this astronomy program which we used
 Beginning in January, 2000, the universe continues to exit the
 Zodiac House of Pisces and will begin entering into the House
 of Aquarius.  This lineup of 8 planets [Saturn, Jupiter, Mars,
 Earth, Mercury, Venus, Uranus, and Neptune] is called a
 Grand Alignment in Astrology.  This Grand Alignment will be the
 first
 to occur in this new House of Aquarius, making it a most
 propitious 

[CTRL] 101 MPs

1999-10-02 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From TheNewStatesman
http://www.consider.net/forum_new.php3?newTemplate=OpenObjectnewTop=19990927000
6newDisplayURN=199909270006

{{Begin}}

Cover story - Women don't deserve to be on top

Cover story
Fay Weldon
Monday 27th September 1999



When 101 female MPs were elected two years ago, we thought history was
made and politics would change. We were wrong, writes Fay Weldon On that
euphoric morning we thought we'd got there. Women had breached the final
bastion of male power. In the face of our gorgon stare, politics itself
had capitulated. That was 2 May 1997. Through the seventies, eighties and
nineties we had put on hard hats and pushed and pushed, out of housewifery
and into the professions - medicine and law were the first to go - to
become engineers and architects, to run businesses and quangos, to be top
bitch in museums and opera houses; we were in the City - trusting women
with money had been a real problem for the men - and now finally this: we
had got to the heart of the evil empire, politics itself. One hundred and
one female Members of Parliament. We were to transform not just the House
of Commons but the nation itself. The world. Those of us who thought women
had special virtues men had not - such as common sense, tenderness and an
instinct for negotiation - saw a new dawn of reason and justice throughout
the land: there would be no more locking of male antlers, pointless
confrontation, sleaze, backbiting, boring the public by blaming the
previous administration. (Men have a great capacity for blaming others:
women tend to go too far the other way.) And what happened? What did you
do? You did what women always do: you fell in love. En masse, you fell in
love with Tony Blair. From the very first morning, you were collectively
known as Blair's Babes, and rightly so. You don't resist or deny the
title: it makes you feel cosy and safe and female; you belong. I'm not
carping or complaining, only noticing. I wouldn't be any different.
Feminists (and more than four-fifths of the new women MPs described
themselves as such, but these days it's a difficult thing to deny) always
were their own worst enemy. In the early days of the movement, it was just
the same. Activists kept falling for men and losing their judgement. Aware
of it, they tried to cure themselves by turning into political lesbians
but they could never hold out for long. It was back in the end to the male
bed, the male hothouse. So what's changed? Now it's yes Tony, no Tony,
smile at me, Tony. How wise and wonderful and powerful you are, Tony - and
Alastair Campbell's pretty good- looking, too. Blair's Babes, on message,
day and night, in the hope of a kind word or a fleeting glance and a spot
of promotion. At least, that's how it's coming over. Open your pretty
mouths and a sound-bite learnt by heart flows out. Look, I'm not saying
the men have done any better - when Margaret Thatcher was in power, gender
got her male cohorts in the same way - but that's not my point here. I'm
talking to those MPs with bosoms and bums who are ruled by oestrogen and
the cycles of the moon, not men with hairy chins and legs and testosterone
surging in their veins. Let them look after themselves. When you think
about it, the women who make the worst photographs make the best
politicians: they're the ones we know and trust, who carry the people with
them. Mo Mowlam, Clare Short - though since she found her son and
consented to a make-over and turned pretty she's been somewhat sidelined -
and Ann Widdecombe. Yes, I know she's officially a Tory, but out here in
the real world we do have a problem telling both parties apart. The few
wilder sequinned sexy sisters on board do pretty well. Diane Abbott's
terrific. But the moment you others get nicely coiffed and smartly
skirted, you turn into bleating hypocritical sheep, spouting a party line
you don't necessarily believe. You're worth more than that. Tear your hair
and rend your clothes, if that's what it takes. Hypocritical? Yes, I do
say that. You and your war on drugs: there's a Canadian woman in Eastleigh
women's prison doing 11 years for importing marijuana, and what's that I
smell in the Stranger's Bar? I think drugs are loathsome, personally, but
the answer is not to take them. Then legislate. "Morality is not about
words, it's about setting examples." (Tony hasn't said that yet, but it's
the kind of thing he says.) We had such high hopes. Back in May 1997, the
electorate's complaint about the Conservative Party was that it talked to
us as if we were children, told us what was good for us, interfered with
our freedoms, classified and categorised us, assumed we all wanted to live
in the same way, dared to castigate single mothers, encouraged us to abort
our children in order to save the state money, while burning it up in
fireworks and planning impossible and grandiose millennium projects. So
sisters, what have you changed? What's different? True, there aren't so
many fireworks. But as 

[CTRL] New Anti-Discrimination Laws from CA Gov. Gay Davis

1999-10-02 Thread Das GOAT

 -Caveat Lector-

 "In the third of three gay-rights bills, the governor signed legislation
to block job and housing discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
The bill places authority over the cases in the state's Fair Employment and
Housing Department, a key state civil rights agency."

 Unfortunately, here in San Francisco, there are many clear-cut, yet
untouchable, cases of "reverse discrimination," since (1) the major
alternative to pricey apartment rentals, "roommate referral services," permit
the "master tenant" in shared housing to dictate that all subtenants be gay
or lesbian ONLY -- which, alas, applies to MOST roommate opportunities here,
and (2) most temp employment agencies and a goodly percentage of corporations
doing business here have Human Resources directors who are gay or lesbian and
who hire ONLY gays or lesbians unless it can't be avoided.
 What LEGAL recourse do heterosexuals have in such cases, when excluded
from job and housing opportunities on the basis of THEIR sexual orientation?
NONE, 'cuz  any objection to discrimination BY homosexuals elicits the
crocodile-tears catcall of "homophobia" and is regarded as somehow a
violation of gay/lesbian "equal rights" ...
 "Equal opportunity" for all?  Hardly -- some groups are MORE equal than
others.


Calif. Outlaws Gay Harassment

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - Gov. Gray Davis on Saturday signed legislation to
outlaw the harassment of gay students and teachers in public schools and
colleges, calling the action an attempt to ``beat back the forces of
hatred.''

The Democratic governor also signed into law a new state domestic partners
registry for couples who are gay or over age 62, extending to them hospital
visitation rights and allowing state and local government workers to get
health benefits for their partners.

And in the third of three gay-rights bills, the governor signed legislation
to block job and housing discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation.
The bill places authority over the cases in the state's Fair Employment and
Housing Department, a key state civil rights agency.

But it was the legislation banning discrimination against gay students and
teachers that drew the most attention. Three other states - Wisconsin,
Massachusetts and Connecticut - have similar antidiscrimination rules.

``Finally, a political leader has taken meaningful action. This is the most
important piece of legislation ever passed in regard to gay-lesbian youth
rights,'' said Kevin Jennings, executive director of the national Gay,
Lesbian and Straight Education Network.

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[CTRL] Anarchism: What It Is and What It Is Not

1999-10-02 Thread Sean McDougal

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Re: [CTRL] 101 MPs

1999-10-02 Thread Rory Winter

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Yep ... that's why some of us never bothered to vote in May 1997 and put
that creep Blair into power ... why do I keep associating him with 1984???
Good for Fay Weldon and God help us All ... Barbara Castle quoted James
Callaghan as having once said at one of his last Cabinet Meetings ... "If I
were 18, I'd emigrate to Australia" ... if only we could!

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 Cover story - Women don't deserve to be on top

 Cover story
 Fay Weldon
 Monday 27th September 1999


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[CTRL] Back to Basics

1999-10-02 Thread Sean McDougal

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[CTRL] Personalised Politix

1999-10-02 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From http://www.ahram.org.eg/weekly/1999/449/op2.htm

{{Begin}}
Paying the price for personal politics
By Edward Said
 After giving a lecture last week in honour of the late Eqbal Ahmad at
Hampshire College, the small Massachusetts university he taught at for the last
15 years, I was approached by a young Palestinian couple with a six-month-old
child. "Have you heard," they both asked me in very disconcerted tones, "that
Arafat just spent the night at Barak's house?" When I said that I hadn't,
expressing very little surprise, I was taken aback at how strongly they found
the whole idea so objectionable. "Doesn't he have any pride?" they asked
rhetorically. "How far does he intend to go in conceding himself and his people
to pacify the Israelis?" It's at moments like those that you realise how
totally identified Arafat is in most people's mind with the cause of Palestine,
the peace process, and the currently sad condition of our people. Instead of
seeing him as I think he is, a man victimised by his own vulnerability and
selfishness, he is regarded as the embodiment of his people's surrender and
humiliating defeat. Hence the young couple's sense of pain and revulsion that
we seem to have sunk so far as to have lost our essential dignity as a people.
I grant of course that they overreacted, but I do not think their feelings
should be discounted or dismissed at all: they represent the sentiments of many
ordinary Palestinians whose acute, profound awareness of continual loss is
aggravated, rather than assuaged, by the peace process.
Certainly anyone who knows anything about the Middle East and has followed the course 
of the peace process knows the enormous extent to which Yasser Arafat has made the 
fate of his people, from its smallest daily details
to the major issues of its destiny and short-range future, almost entirely his
own. The Israelis and Americans have undoubtedly played their hands with this
in mind, but so too have all the other Arab and European governments, plus
international institutions like the World Bank and IMF whose continued support
to the peace process is based on, and indeed completely deeded to, him, his
person, his ideas, his commanding influence, which is somehow presumed to be
permanent. Thus it is with many charismatic leaders: Nasser, Roosevelt, Nehru,
Caesar Augustus, Napoleon, Lincoln, Lenin, Tito, Mandela. The difference
between Arafat and all of them is that, as time goes on, it has become
increasingly difficult to say what Arafatism actually is, what its ideas, what
its vision and contents are made of. No one at all doubts that the Palestinian
situation today is indelibly marked by his command of it, and that his style --
which, in a perceptive biography of Arafat, Said Abu Rish devastatingly
characterises as a mix of sloppiness, improvisation, lack of study or
preparation, and secrecy -- has simply overwhelmed everything in its path.
Not for nothing, then, did strong, principled individuals like Shafiq Al-Hout,
Haidar Abdel-Shafi, Hanan Ashrawi, Abdel-Mohsen Qattan, and a small handful of
others who had been close to him move decisively away. There were limits in
conscience and principle that they couldn't go beyond, limits where absolute
loyalty to him demanded that they be overstepped, but which as individuals they
could not. Look carefully at who is left at his side, from the ministers,
employees, business backers, and outright paid hacks who do his bidding and
sing his praises at the drop of a penny: hardly any of them can be considered
strong or persons of integrity and honesty. Even so, of course there are
subordinates in his ministries, embassies abroad, and party cadres who are good
people and who feel that they must stick it out and fight for what they
consider to be beneficial for the Palestinian cause and people, from within
Arafat's camp. Leaving these people aside, Arafat is the one person everyone
obeys, the man who calls the tune and pays the piper. All the rest submit, even
though some of them grumble very loudly and criticise his untidy ways
unrelentingly. Yet they continue to serve him and to stay among the ranks of
the negotiators, bureaucrats, ministers, informers and security men who
currently make up the Arafat machine. He alone is in charge. He alone decides
what is to be done. His critics have long been accused of "personalising" what
they write or say about him, making it seem that to focus on him is the
equivalent of a personal grudge. In fact that, like so much else in the PLO, is
entirely his doing. Everyone knows that whether it is a decision on the peace
process or permission to repair a car or a request for vacation, Arafat must
sign a paper or otherwise directly give his approval. No one else knows where
the money is, where it came from, and where it is spent except he. Others may
know some things, but only the chairman can see -- and therefore control -- the
whole picture.
In this, over the years he has consistently and, 

[CTRL] Hierarchy

1999-10-02 Thread Sean McDougal

Hierarchy
AShtoN[EMAIL PROTECTED]
17 Dec 1994

In The Beginning

In the Beginning was The Plan.

And then came the Assumptions.

And the Assumptions were without form.

And the Plan was completely without substance.

And the darkness was upon the face of the faithful.

And they spoke among themselves, saying
"It is a crock of shit, and it stinketh."

And the faithful went unto their Pastors and sayeth,
"It is a pail of dung and none may abide the odor thereof."

And the Pastors went unto their Vicars and sayeth unto them,
"It is a container of excrement and it is very strong.
Such that none may abide by it."

And the Vicars went unto their Secretariats and sayeth,
"It is a vessel of fertilizer, and none may abide its strength."

And the Secretariats spoke amongst themselves, saying to one another,
"It contains that which aids plant growth, and it is very strong."

And the Secretariats went unto the Vicar for Administration and sayeth unto
him, "It promotes growth and is very powerful."

And the Vicar for Administration went unto the Archbishop and sayeth unto
him, "This new plan will actively promote the growth and efficiency Of this
Archdiocese, and in these Areas in particular."

And the Archbishop looked upon The Plan,
And saw that it was good, and The Plan became Policy.

This is How Shit Happens.

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[CTRL] COMIN' HOME

1999-10-02 Thread Sean McDougal

and an image you may want to have printed to show that person that thinks
he/she knows what's best for you.

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Re: [CTRL] UNDERWATER PYRAMIDS

1999-10-02 Thread Andrew Hennessey

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At 04:41 PM 01, 10, , 1999 -0700, you wrote:
 -Caveat Lector-

UNDERWATER PYRAMIDS

Before I embark on a skeptical approach, I should say that I have seen the
incredible photos of the pyramids in northern china - so many and so large
that the chinese government cover them with topsoil and plant trees on them
!!!
Also, having heard of the 'Mojendaro' City devastated by atomic warfare etc
the idea of sunken continents and past epochs is easy to accept .. imo for
me at least ... HOWEVER 
Its very unusual for me to be this skeptical - but ... I've seen some
photos taken in 1996 of this alleged city off okinanwa- and the mayan type
stone block theory doesn't tie in with the fact that we are mainly looking
at Basaltic Rock forms - hexagonal as per the giants causeway off antrim in
northern ireland.
The broad sweeping stairways etc etc - unfortunately can also be explained
by the formation of pillow lava in what is essentially a volcanically
active area.
I have not seen the 'pyramid' but if its anything like the rest of this
'evidence' then we're on shaky ground.

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[CTRL] On the Transition

1999-10-02 Thread Sean McDougal


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On the Transition

Postscript to Future Primitve
by John Zerzan

"Yeah, the critique is impressive and everything, but just how might we
actually get from this ghastly world to some healed, whole existence?''
I think we should not doubt that such a journey is possible, nor that the
explosion necessary to begin it may be approaching.

The thought of the dominant culture has, of course, always told us that
alienated life is inescapable. In fact, culture or civilization itself
expresses this essential dogma: the civilizing process, as Freud noted, is
the forcible trading of a free, natural life for one of unceasing
repression.

Today culture is in a dispirited, used-up state wherever one looks. More
important than the entropy afflicting the logic of culture, however, is what
seems to be the active, if inchoate resistance to it. This is the ray of
hope that disturbs the otherwise all-too-depressing race we witness to
determine whether total alienation or the destruction of the biomass will
happen first.

People are being stretched and beaten on the rack of everyday emptiness, and
the spell of civilization is fading. Lasch referred to a near-universal rage
abroad in society, just under the surface. It is growing and its symptoms
are legion, amounting to a refusal to leave this earth unsatisfied.

Adorno asked, ``What would happiness be that was not measured by the
immeasurable grief at what is?'' Certainly, the condition of life has become
nightmarish enough to justify such a question, and perhaps also to suggest
that something started to go deeply wrong a very long time back. At least it
ought to be demonstrating, moving on toward specifics, that the means of
reproducing the prevailing Death Ship (e.g. its technology) cannot be used
to fashion a liberated world.

Saul Bellow's Mr. Sammler wondered, ``What is `common' about the common
life? What if some genius were to do with `common life' what Einstein did
with `matter'? Finding its energetics, uncovering its radiance.'' Of course,
we must all be that `Einstein', which is exactly what will unleash a
creative energy sufficient to utterly refashion the conditions of human
existence. Ten thousand years of captivity and darkness, to paraphrase
Vaneigem, will not withstand ten days of full-out revolution, which will
include the simultaneous reconstruction of our inner selves. Who doesn't
hate modern life? Can what conditioning that remains survive such an
explosion of life, one that ruthlessly removes the sources of such
conditioning?

We are obviously being held hostage by capital and its technology, made to
feel dependent, even helpless, by the sheer weight of it all, the massive
inertia of centuries of alienated categories, patterns, values. What could
be dispensed with immediately? Borders, governments, hierarchyWhat else?
How fast could more deep-seated forms of authority and separation be
dissolved, such as that of division of labor? I assert, and not, I hope, in
the spirit of wishing to derive blueprints from abstract principle, that I
can see no ultimate freedom or wholeness without the dissolution of the
inherent power of specialists of every kind.

Many say that millions would die if the present techno-global fealty to work
and the commodity were scrapped. But this overlooks many potentialities. For
example, consider the vast numbers of people who would be freed from
manipulative, parasitic, destructive pursuits for those of creativity,
health, and liberty. At present, in fact, very few contribute in any way to
satisfying authentic needs.

Transporting food thousands of miles, not an atypical pursuit today, is an
instance of pointless activity, as is producing countless tons of herbicide
and pesticide poisons. The picture of humanity starving if a transformation
were attempted may be brought into perspective by reference to a few other
agricultural specifics, of a more positive nature. It is perfectly feasible,
generally speaking, that we grow our own food. There are simple approaches,
involving no division of labor, to large yields in small spaces.

Agriculture itself must be overcome, as domestication, and because it
removes more organic matter from the soil than it puts back. Permaculture is
a technique that seems to attempt an agriculture that develops or reproduces
itself and thus tends toward nature and away from domestication. It is one
example of promising interim ways to survive while moving away from
civilization. Cultivation within the cities is another aspect of practical
transition, and a further step toward superseding domestication would be a
more or less random propagation of plants, a la Johnny Appleseed.

Regarding urban life, any steps toward autonomy and self-help should be
realized, beginning now, so that cities may be all the more quickly
abandoned later. Created out of capital's need to centralize control of
property transactions, religion, and political domination, cities remain as

[CTRL] Primitives Extropians - Hakim Bey

1999-10-02 Thread Sean McDougal


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[CTRL] Totalism Group Dynamics [Mind Control]

1999-10-02 Thread Sean McDougal

This will be my last post for quite some time.  I will be back, I am sure,
when I have more time.  Right now, more important things beckon.

Keep diggin' in the dirt folks.  Remember it is more accurate to say that
every skeleton you dig up can have a story told about it than to say that
every skeleton tells a story.

What the thinker thinks, the prover proves.
- Anterro Alli

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Re: [CTRL] UNDERWATER PYRAMIDS

1999-10-02 Thread Steve Wingate

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"Pillow lava" ? Yeah right. You need to look at the drawings.

Steve

On 3 Oct 99, at 7:07, Andrew Hennessey wrote:

 The broad sweeping stairways etc etc - unfortunately can also be explained
 by the formation of pillow lava in what is essentially a volcanically
 active area.



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SKYWATCH INTERNATIONAL

Anomalous Images and UFO Files
http://www.anomalous-images.com

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[CTRL] Plaintext links Terrorist, Terrorism, Anarchy, Hate Groups

1999-10-02 Thread Dave

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Entitled: TERRORIST, TERRORISM, ANARCHY, HATE GROUPS ON THE WEB,the
following links were found on a “law enforcement” site:
http://www.ih2000.net/ira/ira2.htm#terror

Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart

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TERRORIST, TERRORISM, ANARCHY, HATE GROUPS ON THE WEB

http://www.princeton.edu/~bdcaplan/anarfaq.htm
Anarchist Theory
  FAQ Version 4.3,NEW VERSION, NEW ADDRESS

  http://www.teleport.com/~jstar/terror.html
Perilous Times -  Terrorist page

http://www.acsp.uic.edu/oicj/pubs/cja/080501.htm
Terrorism:  Past, Present, and Future

  http://www.nci.org/nci/heu.htm
The Bomb-Grade Uranium  Threat

  http://www.loop.com/~rubincomm/Nazi_alert.html
JDL's  Nazi  Alert

  http://www.cdt.org/policy/terrorism/
CDT's  Counter-Terrorism  issues page

http://www2.portal.ca/~comprev/list/anarchy.html
Anarchist  Links

http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~dtn307/anarchy.html
Anarchy for  Anybody - Whenever people hear about anarchy, the first things
that  seem to  come to mind are images of chaos, mayhem, and violence.
Nothing could  be
  further from the truth.

http://home.dti.net/shadow/spylink.html
SPYLink

  http://www.onestep.com/milnet/terror.htm
MILNET:  Terrorism

  http://207.2.127.1/News_Journal/klanindex.html
Hate  Groups -  Anti-Klan and Anti-Militia Page

  http://www.counterterrorism.com/
COUNTERTERRORISM HOME  PAGE

   http://www.almanac.bc.ca/hweb/orgs/american/adl/beyond-the-bombing
Beyond  the Bombing: Militias by StateAnti-Defamation League

  http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/SCCM/
South  Carolina  Civilian Militia

  http://www.ipser.com/usmilitia/
United States  Militia

http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~gmgoncal/tgp.htm
Terrorist   Groups Profiles (Military site, Navy)

   http://www.yahoo.com/Society_and_Culture/Crime/Crimes/Terrorism/
Terrorism   Links (Yahoo)

http://www.yahoo.com/Society_and_Culture/Alternative/Militia_Movevment/Milit
ias/
Militia   Movement:Militias (Yahoo)

   http://www.yahoo.com/Society_and_Culture/Alternative/Skinheads/
 Skinheads   - (Yahoo)

   http://www.yahoo.com/Society_and_Culture/Alternative/White_Power/
White   Power (Yahoo)

  http://gyw.com/terrorism/
Terrorism: What is it, and  how is it   defined?

  http://www.terrorism.com/
Terrorism research Center  New Name

  http://mediafilter.org/MFF/CAQ_Contents.html
Covert  Action   Quarterly

http://www.emergency.com/cntrterr.htm
Counter-Terrorism  Page


http://www.cdt.org/policy/terrorism/terrorism.html
Center for   Democracy and Technology's Counter-Terrorism issues page

  http://www.lysator.liu.se/phrack/terror.html
Phrack  terror

  http://www.clark.net/pub/heroes/
U.S. Department of  State ANTI  TERRORISM and HEROES Homepage

  http://www.ripco.net/download/text/e-texts/tbbom/
The  Big Book   of Mischief (TBBOM)

   http://www.cwi.nl/cwi/people/Jack.Jansen/spunk/cookbook.html
About the   Anarchist Cookbook

http://www.sci.kun.nl/sigma/docs/other/anarchy.html
Anarchy

http://ccme-mac4.bsd.uchicago.edu/DSARace/Anarchism
Black   Anarchism

http://iww.org/~monkeywrench/lorenzo/abr.html
Anarchism and theBlack Revolution

   ftp://etext.archive.umich.edu/pub/Politics/Spunk/anarchy_texts/pu b/BF/
Black   Fist Newsletter - Anarchy FTP

  http://iww.org/
Anarchy Resource Directory - has the  most links   on the web!

  http://iww.org/~gnat/9505/
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[CTRL] Biotech News: Industry claim torpedoed, no higher yields, POORER nutritional content.

1999-10-02 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

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...

Biotech News, by Richard Wolfson, PhD

Reprinted with permission from the October 1999 issue of Alive: Canadian
Journal of Health and Nutrition, 7436 Fraser Park Drive, Burnaby, BC  V5J
5B9

Biotech Soybeans Deficient

New research shows that genetically engineered (GE) soybeans may be less
potent sources of phytoestrogens than their conventional precursors.  The
research, published in the Journal of Medicinal Food (Vol. 1, no. 4, 1999),
reported an overall reduction in phytoestrogen levels of 12-14 percent in
genetically altered soybeans, compared to non-GE varieties. Soy foods are
recommended largely for their dietary phytoestrogen content.

This research refutes claims that genetically engineered foods are
'substantially equivalent' to their non-GE counterparts. Genetically
engineered herbicide-resistant soy is already on the market in Canada,
unlabelled and mixed in with conventional varieties.

Industry Claims Torpedoed

New research by the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) shows that biotech
crops do not produce higher yields or result in reduced pesticide use, as
claimed by industry.

American experts studied biotech soy, corn, and cotton across huge tracts
of the U.S. farming belt, where both GE and non-GE varieties were being
grown. The researchers found no increase in yields from GE crops in 12 of
18 areas.  In some areas, conventional varieties produced yields 10 percent
or more higher than comparable GE varieties.

In 7 of 12 areas studied, farmers growing biotech varieties used at least
the same amount of pesticide as those growing traditional crops.  Farmers
growing Roundup Ready (herbicide-resistant) soybeans used 2 to 5 times more
herbicide per acre, compared to the other popular weed management systems
with non-GE soybeans.  The research shoots down arguments that Frankenstein
foods could help stop hunger in the Third World, or are more
environmentally friendly.

Roundup Linked to Cancer

A recent study published in the Journal of the American Cancer Society
(March 15, 1999) showed that exposure to the herbicide glyphosate results
in increased risk of non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, a form of cancer.

Glyphosate, commonly known as Roundup, is the world's most widely used
herbicide. Seventy-one percent of biotech crops planted in 1998 (including
biotech soy, canola, and corn) were genetically engineered to be resistant
to glyphosate or other herbicides. Herbicide resistant crops allow
increased use of these toxic chemicals to kill weeds.

Marks  Spencer First to go GE-Free

Marks  Spencer, one of UK's largest food chains, announced that it has
become the first major UK retailer to go completely genetically-engineered
food free. From July 1, all MS foods were produced without GE ingredients
or derivatives. More than 5,000 ingredients made from soy and corn were
checked and changes were made to 1,800 recipes to strip all products of GE
ingredients or derivatives.

FDA Ignored Warnings

Records from the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) reveal that in
approving genetically engineered foods, the agency ignored some of its own
scientists. These people repeatedly cautioned against GE foods because of
unexpected and untested toxins and allergens.

For instance, Dr. Louis Priybl of the FDA Microbiology Group, stated "There
is a profound difference between the types of unexpected effects from
traditional breeding and genetic engineering which is just glanced over in
this document." He added that several aspects of gene splicing "...may be
more hazardous."

Codex Fails to Approve Hormone

At a recent Codex (the international food regulating body) meeting in Rome,
governments failed to agree on an international standard on genetically
engineered bovine growth hormone (BGH).  BGH is widely used in USA, where
it injected into cows to increase milk production.  BGH is not allowed in
Canada or EU due to concerns for both human and animal safety.

Failure to agree on Maximum Residue Levels (MRLs) for BGH means that
individual governments will maintain their freedom to decide whether to
allow BGH in their countries.  Consumers International applauded the
decision not to approve BGH internationally as a victory for the health and
safety of consumers.

..

Greenpeace and Council of Canadians Expose Food Industry Double Standards
On Genetically Engineered Food

Toronto, September 27 /CNW/ - Greenpeace and the Council of Canadians
today called on the country's food retailers and producers to give
Canadians the same environmental and health protection that Europeans
receive and take genetically engineered (GE) foods off retail shelves.
At a news conference in front of a Loblaws supermarket, the
organizations released documents from ten international food companies who
have taken genetically engineered ingredients out of their products in
Europe, but refuse to do so in Canada.  The companies