[CTRL] Review of Book on Italian Fascism

1999-11-15 Thread Michael Pugliese



http://www.angelfire.com/biz/telospress/contents107.html
Goto an university library to find this issue of Telos 
with the review. Gottfried and Adler have written regularly there.
 
Michael Pugliese

Paul Gottfried: From Fascism to the Managerial State 
Franklin Hugh Adler, Italian Industrialists from Liberalism to Fascism: 
The Political Development of the Italian Bourgeoisie, 
1906-1934


[CTRL] DoD Navy list of licensable governent owned inventions

1999-11-15 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

Hey kids-

fer only $3 you can get a copy of the Department of the Navy's nifty new:
Patent application 09/061,256: chemical sensor pattern recognition
system using a self-training neural network classifier with automated
outlier detection; filed 17 April 1998.

be the first one on your block

How 'bout this:
Patent 5,754,318: Apparatus for Parallel Recording of Holograms in a Dynamic
Volume Medium; filed 14 July 1997; patented 19 May 1998.
mebbe you could hook it to these:
Patent application 09/058,352: chirped fiber grating beamformer for phased
array antennas; filed 10 April 1998
Patent application 09/054,313: beam pattern shaping for transmitter array;
filed 31 March 1998


special 3 fer $9 on this package:
Patent application 09/064,717: recoil less and gas-free projectile
propulsion; filed 23 April 1998.
Patent application 09/070,770: portable launcher; filed 30 April 1998
Patent application 09/115,600: precursor warhead attachment for an
anti-armor rocket; filed 15 July 1998


or for Rail gun research...?
http://saviac.usae.bah.com/gd9abs/U03.htm
http://ppdweb.nrl.navy.mil/branches/6730/
Patent 5,773,934: Resistive wall Klystron Amplifier having grounded drift
tube; filed 3 April 1966; patented 30 June 1998.
I wonder if Ivor Catt's model of capacitance has been applied by the
railgunners...
http://www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/z001.htm


LOADS more neat gadgets, see list below.


Dave Hartley
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[Federal Register: February 4, 1999 (Volume 64, Number 23)]
[Notices]
[Page 5643-5645]
From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
[DOCID:fr04fe99-37]
[[Page 5643]]
---
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE
Department of the Navy

Notice of Availability of Government-Owned Inventions for
Licensing

AGENCY: Department of the Navy, DOD.
ACTION: Notice.
---
SUMMARY: The inventions listed below are assigned to the United States
Government as represented by the Secretary of the Navy and are made
available for licensing by the Department of the Navy.
Copies of patents cited are available from the Commissioner of
Patents and Trademarks, Washington, D.C. 20231, for $3.00 each.
Requests for copies of patents must include the patent number.
Copies of patent applications cited are available from the National
Technical Information Service (NTIS), Springfield, Virginia 22161 for
$6.95 each ($10.95 outside North American Continent). Requests for
copies of patent applications must include the patent application
serial number. Claims are deleted from the copies of patent
applications sold to avoid premature disclosure.
The following patents and patent applications are available for
licensing:
Patent 5,633,960: Spatially Averaging Fiber Optic Accelerometer
Sensors; filed 25 September 1996; patented 27 May 1997.
Patent 5,705,412: Method of Making Buried Gate Insulator Field Effect
Transistor; filed 7 October 1996; patented 6 January 1998.
Patent 5,734,623: Fiber Optic Sound Velocity Profiler; filed 7 April 1997;
patented 31 March 1998.
Patent 5,734,689: Thermal Neutron Detector;
filed 29 January 1996; patented 31 March 1998.
Patent 5,735,228: Barge Linking System Using Flexible Connectors; filed 13
March 1997; patented
7 April 1998.
Patent 5,735,639: Modular Mobile Safety Structure for Containment and
Handling of Hazardous Materials; filed 13 December 1996; patented 7 April
1998. //
Patent 5,736,950: Sigma-Delta Modulator with Tunable Signal Passband; filed
31 January 1995; patented 7 April 1998.
Patent 5,737,067: Length and Elongation Sensor; filed 18 April
1996; patented 7 April 1998.
Patent 5,737,249: Active Sonar Range-Beam Partitioner; filed 27 January
1997; patented 7 April 1998.
Patent 5,737,279: Retractable Sensor Array System; filed 7 August 1996;
patented 7 April 1998.
Patent 5,737,347: Laser with Multiple Gain
Elements; filed 26 February 1996; patented 7 April 1998.
Patent 5,737,962: Steam Delivery System for Static Testing of Gas Driven
Torpedoes; filed 31 July 1996; patented 14 April 1998.
Patent 5,739,738: Inflatable HI Q Toroidal Inductor; filed 18 July 1994;
patented 14 April 1998.
Patent 5,740,018: Environmentally Controlled  Circuit Pack and Cabinet;
filed 29 February 1996; patented 14 April 1998.  //
Patent 5,741,167: Remotely Controllable Signal Generating
Platform; filed 30 October 1995; patented 21 April 1998.
Patent 5,744,221: Flexible High-Damping Composite Structures and a
Fabrication
Thereof; filed 3 May 1994; patented 28 April 1998.
Patent 5,746,018:
Muzzle Brake for an Underwater Gun; filed 19 May 1997; patented 5 May 1998.
Patent 5,746,905: Coating Evaluation System; filed 14 February
1996; patented 5 May 1998.
Patent 5,747,115: UV-Curable and Non-Volatile Pigmented Coatings; filed 28
February 1995; patented 5 May 1998.
Patent 5,748,102: Apparatus for 

[CTRL] President given power to use experimental biologicals drugs on Military?

1999-11-15 Thread Dave

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FDA cedes decision-making power of necessity for INFORMED CONSENT with
regard to use of experimental biological agents or drugs on military
personnel to the Executive Office of the President.
Comment period ends December 20, 1999 (address below).

Dave Hartley
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DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

Food and Drug Administration
21 CFR Parts 50 and 312
RIN 0910-AA89
[Docket No. 90N-0302]

Human Drugs and Biologics; Determination That Informed Consent Is
NOT Feasible or Is Contrary to the Best Interests of Recipients;
Revocation of 1990 Interim Final Rule; Establishment of New Interim
Final Rule

AGENCY: Food and Drug Administration, HHS.
ACTION: Interim final rule; opportunity for public comment.
---
SUMMARY: The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is revoking its 1990
interim final regulations that permitted the Commissioner of Food and
Drugs (the Commissioner) to determine that obtaining informed consent
from military personnel for the use of an investigational drug or
biologic is not feasible in certain situations related to military
combat. FDA also is issuing a new interim final rule addressing waiver
of informed consent in military operations. FDA is taking these actions
based on its analysis and consideration of all relevant facts,
including its evaluation of the Department of Defense's (DOD)
experience during the Persian Gulf War, its evaluation of the comments
received by the agency in response to the agency's July 31, 1997,
request for comments on whether the agency should revise or revoke the
interim regulations, and the enactment of the Strom Thurmond National
Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1999 (the Defense
Authorization Act). Under the Defense Authorization Act, the President
is authorized to waive the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act's (the
act) informed consent requirements in military operations if the
President finds that obtaining consent is infeasible or contrary to the
best interests of recipients and on an additional ground that obtaining
consent is contrary to national security interests. In light of the
enactment of the Defense Authorization Act, with an immediate effective
date, and because the President could be called upon to make a waiver
determination for military personnel engaged in a specific military
operation at any time, the agency believes that it is critical to have
in place adequate criteria and standards for the President to apply in
making an informed consent waiver determination. Therefore, FDA is
issuing a new interim final regulation with an immediate effective date
to establish criteria and standards for the President to apply in
making a determination that informed consent is not feasible or is
contrary to the best interests of the individual recipients.

DATES: Effective October 5, 1999. Submit written comments by December
20, 1999.

ADDRESSES: Submit written comments to the Dockets Management Branch
(HFA-305), Food and Drug Administration, 5630 Fishers Lane, rm. 1061,
Rockville, MD 20852.

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Bonnie M. Lee, Division of Compliance
Policy, Office of Enforcement, Office of Regulatory Affairs (HFC-230),
Food and Drug Administration, 5600 Fishers Lane, Rockville, MD 20857,
301-827-0415.

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[CTRL] FW: [RuMills] Digest Number 84 (Financial powershift of major proportion? also C-span2 no-show)

1999-11-15 Thread Dave

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 4:15 AM
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Subject: [RuMills] Digest Number 84
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There are 2 messages in this issue.
Topics in today's digest:
  1. THE TRAVELS OF RU MILLS---AND THE WHINES OF JOHN QUINN
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  2. Lengthy Explanation of CSPAN-IRS Press Conference--Larry Becraft
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 17:09:58 EST
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: THE TRAVELS OF RU MILLS---AND THE WHINES OF JOHN QUINN

From Ru Mills:

Dear Rumor Mill News Readers,

I have been back from my journey's for about five days. The information I
gathered on my trip is so extensive and difficult to understand that I have
been sitting back, trying to recover from the trip, as well as decipher my
new information.

I would not have put out this email to you if John quinn, the news hawk had
not sent around one of his usual "whines" in which he attacks Ru Mills. I
really don't understand why he hates us so much. Can any of you help me
understand this?

WHO IS THE NIGHT HAWK AND WHY DOES HE TRY TO DESTROY THE CREDIBILITY OF RU
MILLS AND RUMOR MILL NEWS?

PLEASE READ HIS LATEST RAVINGS. ... they are included at the very end of
this
email

COULD IT BE THAT HE IS JEALOUS?

COULD IT BE THAT HE IS CRAZY?

COULD IT BE THAT HE HAS NO SENSE OF HUMOR?

COULD IT BE THAT HE IS A MIND CONTROLLED SERVANT OF THE ILLUMINATI?

IS HE A SHAPE SHIFTING REPTILIAN?

OR MAYBE A VICTIM OF PROJECT MONARCH...

ALL ANYONE HAS TO DO IS READ THE RUMOR MILL TO SEE THAT JOHN QUINN HAS NO
IDEA WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT WHEN HE BAD MOUTHS IT AND TRIES TO DESTROY ITS
CREDIBIITY. IT'S CREDIBILITY SPEAKS FOR ITSELF. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS READ
IT!

THE RUMOR MILL WANTS TO THANK JOHN QUINN FOR GIVING US SO MUCH PUBLICITY. WE
ARE ALMOST AT 40,000 HITS, IN A LITTLE OVER TWO MONTHS. AND ALL OF THIS IS
FROM WORD OF MOUTH  I WANT TO THANK MY NEW WEBMASTER... AND JOHN QUINN!

 A HREF="http://www.rumormillnews.com/"The Rumor Mill News Agency/A  In
case you haven't visited the Rumor Mill, here is the link.

As for the message about California falling into the ocean. (Which Quinn
refers to) Ru Mills did receive numerous such emails from a psychic called
Hilarion. For those of you who have been studying new age channels who were
created by the NWO. Hilarian apears to be one of them. He has been channeled
by various people, but the most famous channel is a man in Canada. It
appears
that the technology used in creating New Age channels is similar to the
space
based telepathy discussed in Rayelan Allan's book Diana, Queen of Heaven  A
HREF="http://www.dianaqueenofheaven.com/"Diana Queen Of Heaven/A (If you
haven't read the book, then you don't know what is in store for you--800 400
1999 -- when the NWO institutes their new world relgion. This new alliance
between the Pope and the Lutherans is just the beginning!)

My reference to Hilarion, as I left California, was an attempt at humor.
Rumor Mill News readers understood this, why didn't John Quinn?

As for my almost three week wander throughout the country. Why do you think
I
did this?

I had places to go and people to meet. For those of you who want to know my
route,

Here are the places I visited:

NSA New Orleans
(Only those in the know will understand this, but I have a picture of me
with
one of my sources in front of the BOQ to prove I was there)

Navy divers school in Panama City Beach, FL
(Remember, most of RMNews Sources are aging Navy SEALS)

Orlando
(On the day of Payne Stewart's funeral)

White Springs, FL
(Listeners of the People's Radio Network will recognize this stop)

Pensacola, FL
(On the day that two fallen  Navy Blue Angels were remembered)

Tupelo, MS
(Secret meeting with Elvis... yes he is alive and well and living in Tupelo)

Cornith, MS
(Secret meeting)

Shiloh Battlefield, Tennessee
(meeting too secret to discuss)

Memphis, TN

Little Rock, Arkansas
(Ru Mills arrived the day Tyson, the wallabee disappeared from the Little
Rock zoo. RMNews sources had briefed Ru that Tyson, the Wallabee,  was just
about to be served up as the main course for Tyson Foods new fast food
restaurant, the Outback, which features Wallabee chicken ---  [Only people
from Little Rock will understand this.] President Clinton arrived several
hours after Ru Mills departed. SourceS say he was licking his fingers)

Hope, Arkansas
(General Mills  ordered Ru into this den of danger to seek out childhood
friends who could confirm that the real Bill Clinton was  kidnaped by aliens
and replaced by a cloned reptile. What she discovered was even worse. She
discovered a Mills family connection to Hope, Arkansas and to the President
himself. Proof will soon apear on the Rumor Mill News 

Re: [CTRL] Believing in Conspiracy Theory

1999-11-15 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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One issue that has captured my interest for some years now is the prevalence in
Arab societies in general, including Egypt, of conspiracy theory. As far as
many millions of Egyptians and Arabs are concerned, the following propositions
have become virtual articles of faith:

The blueprint for our recent history and present reality was drawn up by the
great powers, and what we are now living through is the product of their
machinations; the powers responsible for this grand design were Britain and
France in the past and the United States, aided and abetted by its protégé,
Israel, in the recent past and the present; these plans were prepared in great
detail by the great powers, leaving those at the receiving end little room to
manoeuvre;

When it comes to the Middle East at least, this isn't fantasy.  The
area, being part of the Ottoman Empire, WAS carved up by Britain and
France at the end of WWI, with little if any input from the natives of
the area...rather, the deciding factor was which European power would
gain the most natural resources by the deal, predominantly oil.

After WWII, France for the most part was out, the U.S. was in, and by the
1960s Britain for the most part was out, Israel in, albeit in a less
open manner than Britain had been...

U.S. multinational oil corporations, in partnership with the U.S. spook
agencies, saw to it that they wielded the real power in the Middle East,
with puppet regimes put in as figure-head rulers...regimes that finally
got overthrown in the 1970s...

This is all a matter of record, and not speculation.  So as I said,
natives of the Middle East have good reason to believe in 'conspiracy
theory', as most of the history of the area during the 20th century came
about just because of the 'conspiracy' of various western powers to
maintain control of the area...


In fact, the sources on which the three groups base their belief in the
conspiracy theory have no basis in fact, history or logic. The history of the
peoples of our region would have been the same, including their subjugation by
Western colonialism, had the region been part of the Christian world. The West
did not colonise us because we were Muslims, but for quite different reasons.

But colonize they did...and continue to manipulate political and economic
matters in the region throughout the 20th century...so as I said, the
natives of the region have good reason to believe in 'conspiracies',
since such conspiracies are in reality matters of record and not
fantasy...


June ;-)

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Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread Tenorlove

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OT? Yes, OT, as in OLD TOPIC--VERY old topic, in fact. So PLEASE take
the flame war off list--especially those writers who have not mastered
"cut and paste"--so that the rest of us have room in our mailboxes for
stuff like book chapters etc. Thanks for hearing me out.

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[CTRL] ABOUT TODAY - Assassination Mystery; 'Go' Stopped; More (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread Yardbird

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #2

1999-11-15 Thread Ric Carter

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SkeptiNews 991115b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

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@ The William Shatner Acting Simulator:
  http://www.hecklers.com/simshatner/simshatner.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Ask Oakland's tattooed punks about Jerry Brown  you'll find that Mayor
  Moonbeam rules with an iron fist: www.city-journal.org/html/9_4_a2.html

@ PoliticalCorrectness has made taboo the very idea of beauty. Elaine Scarry
  wants to restore the place of the beautiful, and of trust, in the world:
  http://www.salon.com/books/feature/1999/11/09/scarry/print.html

: Is all politics conspiracy? Are all conspiracies political? Are you sure?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# EVIDENCE FOR "MIGRANE PERSONALITY" REPORTED BY CHINESE TEAM. Although
  migraine treatment eliminates or reduces many abnormal psychological
  traits in patients, some neurotic traits still persist in migraineurs
  following treatment. http://psychiatry.medscape.com/13800.rhtml

: Does your personality torture you? Do you have many abnormal psychological
traits? Is chemical/surgical intervention required? Does your implant buzz?

# ESTROGEN REDUCES AGGRESSIVE BEHAVIOR AMONG ELDERLY WITH MODERATE TO
  SEVERE DEMENTIA: http://psychiatry.medscape.com/13746.rhtml

: Can agressive behaviour be fine-tuned with estrogen and testosterone? Are
these effective for controlling human behaviour, with or without dementia?
Do your ET/CIA/KGB masters control you with hormones? Do they pump you up?

# USE OF IBOGAINE TO TREAT DRUG ADDICTION EXAMINED - Clinical, cultural, and
  political issues of ibogaine: http://psychiatry.medscape.com/13803.rhtml

: Does ibogaine really induce telepathy? Do addicts need telepathy? Why??

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  -- A newer atypical antipsychotic, it enhances activation of brain areas
  associated with working memory: http://psychiatry.medscape.com/13792.rhtml

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# Gene flaw may promote cancer. (AP) Scientists have identified an inherited
  genetic mutation that may make people more vulnerable to colon cancer,
  possibly playing a role in up to 9% of cases diagnosed each year in the
  U.S. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562078245-971

# Human genome rivals may unite. (AP) The public  private rivals racing to
  decode the human genetic blueprint are discussing collaborating on the
  effort: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562077526-2dc

# Retardation clues - genetic. (AP) UK scientists have discovered that a
  subtle genetic abnormality could be an important cause of unexplained
  cases of mental retardation in children. Not just from eating lead paint:
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562049682-7c8
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Germany eyes nuke ban. BERLIN (AP) Germany's coalition govt is working on
  laws to phase out the country's nuclear power industry. Meanwhile, several
  thousands anti-nuke protesters demonstrated in Berlin Saturday, demanding
  immediate shutdown of all of the country's nuclear power stations. See
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562064492-1a9

: Can humanity live with/without fission reactors? Will cold fusion save us?

@ NANOTECHNOLOGY WITHOUT GENIES http://geniebusters.org/ - detailed anal-
  ysis of Earth's current economic  technological systems, refuting some
  misconceptions about molecular nanotechnology http://zyvex.com/nano/.
  And see: http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Commentary/

: Can humanity live with/without nanotechnology? Will nanobots rebuild us?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

SkeptiSpace:

# It's Real! (NASA) By observing the transit of a planet across the face of
  a distant star, astronomers prove that planets exist outside our solar
  system. http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast14nov99_1.htm
  See also: http://www.cnn.com/TECH/space/9911/13/newplanet.ap/

# Reminder: There will be a planetary transit of our own star on Monday,
  Nov. 15 when Mercury crosses the face of the Sun.  For details see:
  http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast12nov99_1.htm

# Comet's meteor storm to occur soon - peaks every 33 years, see
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562059594-68b
# Also: Web sites showing updates on comet, see
  http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562059595-f8f
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Crash-A-Rama:

# EgyptAir tape data inconclusive: http://cnn.com/US/9911/14/egyptair.05/

# "Something happens. Alarms go off... There is some kind of problem that
  they're 

[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

1999-11-15 Thread Kris Millegan





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1957-1973

Laos — The CIA carries out approximately one coup per year trying to
nullify Laos’ democratic elections. The problem is the Pathet Lao, a
leftist group with enough popular support to be a member of any coalition
government. In the late 50s, the CIA even creates an "Armee Clandestine" of
Asian mercenaries to attack the Pathet Lao. After the CIA’s army suffers
numerous defeats, the U.S. starts bombing, dropping more bombs on Laos than
all the U.S. bombs dropped in World War II. A quarter of all Laotians will
eventually become refugees, many living in caves.

http://www.korpios.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html [quoted below]

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Subject: A Timeline of CIA Atrocities
Content-Base: "http://www.korpios.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html"


A Timeline of CIA Atrocities

By Steve Kangas






The following timeline describes just a few of the hundreds of atrocities
and crimes committed by the CIA. (1)

CIA operations follow the same recurring script. First, American business
interests abroad are threatened by a popular or democratically elected
leader. The people support their leader because he intends to conduct land
reform, strengthen unions, redistribute wealth, nationalize foreign-owned
industry, and regulate business to protect workers, consumers and the
environment. So, on behalf of American business, and often with their help,
the CIA mobilizes the opposition. First it identifies right-wing groups
within the country (usually the military), and offers them a deal: "We'll
put you in power if you maintain a favorable business climate for us." The
Agency then hires, trains and works with them to overthrow the existing
government (usually a democracy). It uses every trick in the book:
propaganda, stuffed ballot boxes, purchased elections, extortion,
blackmail, sexual intrigue, false stories about opponents in the local
media, infiltration and disruption of opposing political parties,
kidnapping, beating, torture, intimidation, economic sabotage, death squads
and even assassination. These efforts culminate in a military coup, which
installs a right-wing dictator. The CIA trains the dictator’s security
apparatus to crack down on the traditional enemies of big business, using
interrogation, torture and murder. The victims are said to be "communists,"
but almost always they are just peasants, liberals, moderates, labor union
leaders, political opponents and advocates of free speech and democracy.
Widespread human rights abuses follow.

This scenario has been repeated so many times that the CIA actually teaches
it in a special school, the notorious "School of the Americas." (It opened
in Panama but later moved to Fort Benning, Georgia.) Critics have nicknamed
it the "School of the Dictators" and "School of the Assassins." Here, the
CIA trains Latin American military officers how to conduct coups, including
the use of interrogation, torture and murder.

The Association for Responsible Dissent estimates that by 1987, 6 million
people had died as a result of CIA covert operations. (2) Former State
Department official William Blum correctly calls this an "American Holocaust."

The CIA justifies these actions as part of its war against communism. But
most coups do not involve a communist threat. Unlucky nations are targeted
for a wide variety of reasons: not only threats to American business
interests abroad, but also liberal or even moderate social reforms,
political instability, the unwillingness of a leader to carry out
Washington’s dictates, and declarations of neutrality in the Cold War.
Indeed, nothing has infuriated CIA Directors quite like a nation’s desire
to stay out of the Cold War.

The ironic thing about all this intervention is that it frequently fails to
achieve American objectives. Often the newly installed dictator grows
comfortable with the security apparatus the CIA has built for him. He
becomes an expert at running a police state. And because the dictator knows
he cannot be overthrown, he becomes independent and defiant of Washington's
will. The CIA then finds it cannot overthrow him, because the police and
military are under the dictator's control, afraid to cooperate with
American spies for fear of torture and execution. The only two options for
the U.S at this point are impotence or war. Examples of this "boomerang
effect" include the Shah of Iran, General Noriega and Saddam Hussein. The
boomerang effect also explains why the CIA has proven highly successful at
overthrowing democracies, but a wretched failure at overthrowing
dictatorships.

The following timeline should confirm that the CIA as we know it should be
abolished 

[CTRL] Excellent Waco article from SOF

1999-11-15 Thread Gavin Phillips

 -Caveat Lector-

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carolyn Hart)
 Subject: [piml] Waco article from SOF
 
  From Free Republic--
 
   Source: Soldier Of Fortune
Published: December 1999 Author: SOF Staff
Posted on 11/12/1999 08:56:29 PST by PJ-Comix
  
   As the sun set over the Texas prairie that last night of February 1993
the
   nation sat stunned. The events that unfolded that day
   near the peaceful town of Waco saw four federal agents and six members of
   an obscure religious sect shot dead, and many
   more on each side wounded. What had begun as a botched raid by the
federal
   Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms
   rapidly escalated into the largest shoot-out in American law-enforcement
   history. It was also soon to grow into the greatest
   scandal ever faced by the country's self-anointed, premier law
enforcement
   agency—the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
  
   With the morning sun came the FBI, replete with loudspeakers.
floodlights,
   the infamous Hostage Rescue Team ... and U.S.
   military main battle tanks. They were, by God, going to war. Those
scumbags
   holed-up in that ramshackle church had not
   only killed federal lawmen, they had committed the unpardonable sin of
   contempt-of-cop. For this transgression the Branch
   Davidians. their children, and their leader, David Koresh, would pay with
   their lives.
  
   Although it was now an FBI show, the on-site FBI agents were split into
two
   camps. One was comprised of the hostage
   negotiators. who, for the most part, worked hard to give Koresh and his
   followers a dignified and survivable way out. At the
   other end of the spectrum were the tactical teams. Fueled by a limitless
   supply of testosterone, they couldn't wait for kick-ass
   action. In the end, brawn overcame brains and the resulting massacre,
   embodied in the single word "Waco." came to
   symbolize the darkest chapter in American law enforcement history.
  
   Although touted by the likes of Democratic Congressmen Charles Schumer
and
   Tom Lantos as being the epitome of
   righteousness, the actions of the FBI tactical teams at Waco were, at the
   least reprehensible, and at the most outright criminal.
   Had any other lass enforcement or military agency conducted itself the
way
   the FBI did at Waco its officers would he in jail!
  
   With the potential for a PR nightmare looming, the first thing on the
   agenda was to demonize the Branch Davidians to such a
   point that they appeared sub-human in the eyes of the world. This part
was
   easy: Simply cut off all contact with the outside
   world, especially the press. Herd the news media to a point 2 miles from
   the besieged building and feed them carefully
   scripted propaganda.
  
   Part of the plan was witnessed during the first week when the Davidians,
   urged on by the feds, made a video tape inside
   Mount Carmel showing the wounds suffered by some of them during the
initial
   firefight. However, when the tape was viewed
   by the FBI it didn't show the expected wild-eyed cultists. Instead, it
   showed a group of very real and frightened men, women
   and children. It put a very human face on the Davidians. Fearing the
public
   reaction if this tape was released, it was decided to
   withhold it from the press. Whatever the media or the populace was to
learn
   about Koresh and his people was to come
   directly from the FBI and ATF. The major flaw in this plan was that
agents
   themselves rapidly forgot that they were dealing
   with living, breathing human beings. They, too, saw the Davidians as
   untermenchen.
  
   While most people remember the distant TV images of glaring spotlights
and
   blaring loudspeakers, cranking out everything
   from the cries of bunny rabbits being slaughtered to Nancy Sinatra
singing
   about. "Boots," "boxes of matches" and "getting
   burnt." few were aware of the other actions being carried out by the FBI
   tactical teams. For example:
  
   Clearly intending to terrorize the Davidians, FBI drivers of the tanks
and
   Bradley Fighting Vehicles would race their vehicles
   toward the building, stopping short at the last moment. Sometimes this
   tactic failed and the wooden structure was actually hit.
  
   FBI tank and Bradley crews repeatedly drove around Mount Cannel mooning
and
   extending their middle fingers to the
   Davidians. When complaints were made about these vulgar displays, FBI
   negotiator John Cox replied that the agents were
   simply acting from, "frustration and anguish."
  
   Branch Davidian, Peter Gent, killed during the initial ATF raid, was
buried
   outside the main building in full view of the FBI.
   During the ensuing weeks, over protestations by the Davidians, agents
   repeatedly ran over his grave with armored vehicles.
  
   Early on in the siege, agents descended on a garage rented by the
Davidians
   some distance from Mount Carmel. As the
   owner, a local banker, keys in-hand, was shoved 

[CTRL] OEN 11/15/99

1999-11-15 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin
Grabbe/A
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Leveraged Finance


Tiptoeing Through the Tulips


The US, with a negative savings rate, continues to borrow from the rest of
the world to buy stocks.

It was when day traders began buying tulip futures that the professionals
started to get nervous. The arrival in the Dutch tulip market of small-time
investors - weavers, spinners, grocers - drawn by news of the rising prices
of tulip bulbs, marked the beginning of "tulipomania". From that point, in
about 1634, it was only a matter of time before the inevitable crash.

On the surface, the parallels with the US are a little too close for comfort.
According to Edward Chancellor's history of financial speculation, Devil Take
the Hindmost, the hallmarks of the Dutch economy of the 1630s were optimism
about the trade outlook, a thriving stock market, rising house prices and a
consumer boom.

In the US, the last three factors are closely linked. Consumers are spending
more because they feel wealthier as a result of gains in stocks and real
estate.

More Americans now own shares, either directly or indirectly, than ever
before. According to a survey published last month by the Securities Industry
Association and the Investment Company Institute, 49.2m US households -
nearly half - own equities, either as individual stocks or through mutual
funds.

Separate figures from the Federal Reserve, collated by Credit Suisse First
Boston, suggest that equities now make up a record proportion of ordinary
Americans' total financial assets: more than 60 per cent. The value of
households' direct stake in equities is approaching $7,000bn, well over three
times the 1990 figure, and represents some 40 per cent of the market. A
further 30 per cent is held by mutual funds and private pension funds.

Not surprisingly, who US investors are and how they might react to a market
correction are matters of concern at the highest level. The Fed used to get
nuisance mail from retired savers when it cut interest rates, because a
reduction hit interest income. Now when it meets to discuss the possible
tightening of monetary policy, as it does this week, the central bankers must
consider the reaction of a market propped up on millions of mutual fund
savings programmes, pension plans and, yes, day trading accounts.

Day traders are, happily, the least of the Fed's worries. Most US retail
investors are comparatively unmoved by stock market turbulence, according to
the SIA/ICI survey.

The typical equity owner is a married 47-year-old with household income of
$60,000 and assets of $85,000. True, if this model of calm and stability is
using the internet to trade he or she is probably trading at high volume -
but only 11 per cent of US investors were trading online when the survey was
conducted in January and February this year.

The average investor is more likely to seek professional investment advice,
views shares as a long-term investment (96 per cent) and does not worry about
short-term fluctuations (83 per cent). In 1998, a pretty scary year for all
financial markets, nearly half of those investors who owned individual stocks
neither bought nor sold. And at least three quarters of those who sold stocks
or mutual funds reinvested all or part of the proceeds in the market.

That seems to back up the theory that retail investors "buy on the dips" in
the market and that it would take a large jolt to dislodge them altogether. A
market crash would dispel the wealth effect, but US consumer confidence has
proved resilient in the past. Christine Callies, CSFB's US market strategist,
points out that even after the multiple shocks of the 1987 stock market
crash, rises in interest rates and increases in capital gains tax, "it still
took two years before retail activity collapsed".

So, a sustained dose of disappointment about returns from the equity market
may be the only development likely to dent American shareholders' stoicism.
Many investors now appear to believe that recent past performance is a guide
to future results. According to PaineWebber and Gallup's monthly investor
optimism index, shareholders expect returns from the equity market in the
coming year of 15.7 per cent and average annual returns over the next 10
years of 16 per cent. At those rates it would indeed appear foolish to switch
out of shares and that message is being peddled to a growing number of
Americans.

The problem is that while investors in large US company stocks have seen a
compound annual rate of return in the 1980s and 1990s of more than 17 per
cent, only two other decades since the First World War (the 1920s and the
1950s) have registered double figures. Tulips, anyone?
The Financial Times, November 15, 1999


Japanese Finance


Japanese Loan Sharks Seek Pound of Flesh


Or else just a few body parts.

Kenji Utsunomiya, a Japanese lawyer, sits in his Tokyo office and switches on

[CTRL] [1] The Digital Monetary Trust

1999-11-15 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://zolatimes.com/V3.44/dmt1.html
Click Here: A HREF="http://zolatimes.com/V3.44/dmt1.html"The Digital
Monetary Trust, Part 1, by J. Orlin…/A
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The Digital Monetary Trust


Part 1: Introduction



by J. Orlin Grabbe

This article describes an Internet-based anonymous banking project, known as T
he Digital Monetary Trust, Ltd. The Digital Monetary Trust (hereafter: DMT)
is a proposed financial trust (which may be optionally viewed as a mutual
fund, or a money market fund) all of whose assets will be invested in cash,
commodities (such as gold), and high-quality (low credit-risk) securities
denominated in various national currencies. DMT is a Laissez Faire City
corporation.

The basic business of DMT will be the provision of private, anonymous
accounts, which may be used by individuals and entities within the system to
securely store anonymous capital or to make anonymous monetary transactions.
That is, the DMT will be in the business of providing privacy, and doing so
in a cryptographical framework which provides a more solid basis for customer
anonymity than the traditional ones of (allegedly) tight-lipped bankers or
(often-leaky) banking secrecy laws. In fact, much stricter provisions will be
made to protect against spies, hackers, and misguided law enforcement
agencies with subpoena or seizure powers. DMT will not know who its customers
are, but will nevertheless be able to securely determine when asset transfers
are authorized.

The DMT software system 1) will allow customers to securely access accounts
and transfer money via the Internet; 2) will anonymize transactions and
account creation within the DMT system, so that these activities cannot be
observed by other DMT customers, by the DMT itself, or by outside parties;
and yet, 3) will also provide a publicly observable accounting of DMT's asset
holdings. DMT is an anonymous account system—not a digital cash system. But
alliance with other (third-party) vendors will allow for the receipt or
withdrawal of anonymous digital coins. (That is, digital cash systems can be
layered on top of the anonymous account system.)

Employment information for those who wish to participate in the creation of
the DMT, or those who wish to participate as investors, will be given later
in this article.

There are conceptually three distinct layers to the Digital Monetary Trust
(DMT). These are:

Layer 1. A secure Internet webserver which acts as the public presentation of
the bank, and which interacts with bank customers via their web browsers over
a secure Internet channel. (Customers may optionally interact with the bank
via anonymous email.)

Layer 2. Digital account software which is layered on top of the secure
Internet channel. The software will include:

a. A customer module which generates and stores relevant customer numbers.
b. A trust module which generates the relevant trust numbers, and produces
reports.
c. A data base for storing trust account information.

Layer 3. An interface with the normal, non-anonymous banking system ("outside
system"). The anonymous digital bank (DMT) accepts payments from the outside
system, and makes payments back into the outside system. Ordinary wire
transfer payments into or out of the DMT system will be observable, although
they will not be linkable to a DMT account-holder's identity. Deposits or
withdrawals of anonymous digital coins will not be linkable to any outside
bank account, much less to a DMT account. Payments (account transfers) taking
place entirely within the anonymous system (DMT) will be neither observable
nor linkable.

The three-layered framework will allow DMT to carry out its basic business,
which is to provide privacy services to its customers. DMT will earn income
from interest payments on its holdings of government and other high-credit
quality securities (part of which may be returned to depositors, after
extraction of custody and transaction fees). DMT will also earn transaction
fees from transfers out of the anonymous system, and some fees from the
transfers of funds between accounts.

The structure of the system here is important. Without remote, Internet-based
banking access, DMT would have few customers. Without the elements of
security and privacy, DMT would not be able to service its citizens in a
manner consistent with its stated objectives. Without a convenient user
interface, DMT would not be able to efficiently manage such a process, and
customers would require a higher degree of motivation to use the available
services. Without demonstrable anonymity, the DMT accounts would be just one
more competitor in a vast sea of similar products.

Note that the profit mechanism here is the provision of privacy services in
return for interest earned on asset holdings. We believe that providing
anonymous assets is the market opportunity. It is the one service that no one
is providing—outside the traditional framework of "secret" accounts, which
are not in fact very secret. 

[CTRL] [2] Politics in America

1999-11-15 Thread Kris Millegan

 -Caveat Lector-

from:
http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.44/politics_amer2.htm
Click Here: A HREF="http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.44/politics_amer2.htm"Politi
cs in America, Part 2, by Robert L. Kocher/A
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Politics in America


Part 2: The Hung-up Generations Without Hangups


by Robert L. Kocher

The present American condition was strongly determined by the childrearing
practices and the developmental atmosphere 35, 40, and 45 years ago. Hence,
an important place to begin analysis of the history of the last thirty years
is with relevant aspects of childrearing and child development that produced
the teen-agers, the young adults and finally the middle-aged adults who now
make up a significant proportion of this country. That is where everything
began; consequently, that is where we must begin in order to understand the
pathology of today. There has been a catastrophic misunderstanding of certain
aspects of developmental psychology in this country. Much of this
misunderstanding has been accepted by and/or created by professionals in the
field. Portions of the developmental psychology field seem to have been
molded around a core complex of distortion. Part of this distortion
represents a form of negative attention-seeking by professionals and
academicians. Part of it represents a desire to be intellectually cute.
Adversarial cuteness has become important. Clearly, the results haven't been
cute.
One of the avowed goals of theoreticians has been to produce a more humane
system of childrearing wherein children experience no discomfort or
frustration. But fear, discomfort and frustration are an intrinsic part of
the growth process. In attempts to insulate children from all discomfort and
frustration, the result has been to insulate children from emotional growth.
The ultimate consequence has been to produce adults who live in pain and
frustration for the remainder of their lives.
Childrearing must be examined because, while it is fundamental, it has become
obscured or displaced by alternative misunderstanding and has become lost
knowledge. Most of the political, social, and economic problems now facing
this country are delayed effects of generational failure to resolve those
same issues during the early childhood developmental period
Several years ago I was in a supermarket watching a mother and her child. The
child had wandered from her and was having an enjoyable time playing with
boxes of cereal and pop bottles. This was the equivalent of Disneyland for a
toddler. When it was time to go, the mother took the child by the hand and
began to walk out the door, but the child didn't want to leave. They took two
steps whereupon the child first tried to dig his feet in, then flopped down
on the floor, kicked his feet, held his breath until he turned purple, and
when he could hold his breath no longer he let out an enraged howl of
protest. It didn't change anything and his mother had to drag and carry him
out the door. He was angry and he didn't want to hear any explanations. It
was a better lesson in child psychology than is offered in graduate school.
At birth people are little more than collections of needs, desires, and
impulses. They're like that two-year-old. They want to be able to play in the
store or do whatever it is they want to do at the moment regardless of
reality or cost to others. Much of what we want at undeveloped levels of
maturity is clearly impossible. I am told that when I was a year-and-a-half
old I was taken to a circus. The grand finale featured a large group of white
horses trained to cantor around the ring. When it was over I wanted to take
the horses home with us and would not accept explanations that it was
impossible. The howls of protest continued for two hours. That is a normal
part of being that age. It's what mothers call the terrible twos because the
full effect is seen around the age of two. At the age of two a child's radius
of mobility, awareness and interaction is expanded beyond his undeveloped
idea of reality.
Part of the process of growing up is acquiring skills enabling us to meet our
needs. Another part of growing up is learning, through a process of
repetitive frustration followed by rage and tantrums, followed by eventual
acceptance of realistic limits, that we cannot have all our desires and
impulses. Some of this frustration occurs through parental teaching and other
social interaction. Some of it is learned by stubbing toes in the real
physical world. A grandfather trying to teach his grandson how to fly a kite
described to me how the child would get the string tangled up, the kite
wouldn't fly right, the wind would change direction. His grandson would get
angry and then throw the string down and go off to pout. After numerous
frustrations and tantrums the child eventually learned the reality of strings
and kites, and how to fly the kite.
The enraged and kicking child who had to be dragged out of the supermarket
thought it was the most important thing in the world for him 

Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread TenebrousT

 -Caveat Lector-

I am going to REQUEST that this thread stop as it now has nothing to do with
conspiracy theory and is no longer an issue that can be persued on this list.
 IF the participants wish to continue the back and forht back-biting and name
calling then they can do it OFF-LIST.  Incidentally this list is not the
place to PROPAGANDIZE or propogate religious ideas to the detriment of others
beliefs.  Belief and faith is a matter of personal conviction.  RELIGION and
PROPAGANDA are topics of discussion ONLY in the sense of how they are used
for the furtherance of conspiracy and it would do well for people to remember
this fact when bringing up religious subject matter on this list.  I do not
wish to censor discussion but it is my duty as a moderator here to see that
the list is not clutterred by proseletyzing and personal attacks so that
issues of interest to all can be discussed.




In a message dated 11/15/99 7:53:21 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 OT? Yes, OT, as in OLD TOPIC--VERY old topic, in fact. So PLEASE take
  the flame war off list--especially those writers who have not mastered
  "cut and paste"--so that the rest of us have room in our mailboxes for
  stuff like book chapters etc. Thanks for hearing me out.

  Tenorlove


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  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity,
and it is not meant that we should
  voyage far.  The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have
hitherto harmed us little; but someday
  the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our
  frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation
or flee from the deadly light into the
  peace and safety of a new dark age."  H.P.Lovecraft; "The Call of Cthulhu"

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[CTRL] Al Gore Had Bodyguards Protecting Him in Vietnam

1999-11-15 Thread Kris Millegan

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Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:570752"Al Gore Had
Bodyguards Protecting Him in Vietnam/A
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Subject: Al Gore Had Bodyguards Protecting Him in Vietnam
From: "today" A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"info@internetoffice
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Date: Mon, 15 November 1999 05:50 AM EST
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Al Gore Had Bodyguards Protecting Him in Vietnam

The Vice President best tread lightly as he uses his Vietnam experience to
play the egalitarian card. Because, according to a recent Los Angeles Times
report that the rest of the press pretended not to notice, Gore's Vietnam
tour of duty was notable mainly for the special treatment he received; a
"handle with care" order that required bodyguards to keep the senator's son
from getting hurt.

"Several of his (Vietnam) colleagues remember they were assigned to make
sure this son of a prominent politician was never injured in the war,"
reported Times correspondent Richard Serrano, in a lengthy piece headlined,
"Struggle With Conscience was Gore's Biggest Vietnam Battle."

"Other soldiers with long experience in Vietnam said that Gore was treated
differently from his fellow enlistees," Serrano noted. "Two of them recalled
that before Gore arrived Brig. General Kenneth B. Cooper advised them that a
senator's son would be joining the outfit.

"H. Alan Leo said soldiers were ordered to serve as Gore's bodyguards, to
keep him out of harm's way. 'It blew me away,' Leo said. 'I was to make sure
he didn't get into a situation he could not get out of. They didn't want him
to get into trouble. So we went into the field after the fact (after combat
actions), and that limited his exposure to any hazards.'" (Los Angeles
Times -- October 15, 1999)

During his first run for the White House in 1988, Gore didn't hesitate to
remind reporters about his service in Vietnam, which he tended to
mischaracterize as combat oriented. "I was shot at. I spent most of my time
in the field," he told the Washington Post eleven years ago.


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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:50:56 GMT, "today"
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Ar least he was IN Viet Nam.  Bush had his daddy get him into
the Guard, Buchanan "doctor shopped" and got an exemption for a phony
bum knee.  Gore ENLISTED and VOLUNTEERED for Nam.
He did this because his father was a vocal war critic and he
didn't want to have anyone accuse him as using that as an out from
doing his duty.
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[CTRL] Dunblane / Masonic Cover up or HMG cover up?

1999-11-15 Thread Kris Millegan

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Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:570735"Dunblane / Masonic
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Subject: Dunblane / Masonic Cover up or HMG cover up? From: peter
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To Whom it May Concern:

Please on Forward as you see fit.

I have taken the liberty of transcribing below a letter which was first sent
in November 1996 to The Press  Journal of Aberdeen, HRH the Duke of
Edinburgh and The Gun Club of Great Britain. No response was received. The
substance was as a result sent to The House of Commons subsequently no
response thereto was received.
I have taken the liberty of removing the identity of the original sender for
their own security.

TRANSCRIPT:
"With regard to recent publicity correlating secret organisations with
paedophelia, particularly the Free Masons, I would like to bring to your
attention the link between the abuse of boys at the Queen Victoria School
(QVS), Dunblane. The large presence of Freemasons in that establishment and
the slaughter of 16 children and a teacher at Dunblane by Thomas Hamilton on
13 March 1996. As far as I know no such link was revealed in the Cullen
Report. In June 1994 I released a report about my own experience as a ***
at QVS. A copy of my report was sent to almost every Scottish education
authority in July 1994.
I believe that, had my allegations in 1991 been properly investigated,
there ia a strong possibility that Hamilton would have been discovered. His
signatures in the visitors log have been removed. The awful slaughter in
March 1996 could have been prevented by an impartial police investigation.
In my report of June 1994 I accused the Ministry of Defence (MOD), the
Scottish Office and the Procurator Fiscal of a deliberate cover up and of
maladministration at the QVS.
The Masonic presence in the local police and the QVS was strong. It is a
fact that Hamilton was enrolled in Lodge Number 1417 (Garrow Hill) in 1977.
He was granted a firearms certificate in 1997. It was no idle boast when
Hamilton claimed he was "a friend of the police" (Masons). In March 1996,
just after the slaughter, Hamilton's file went missing. Hamilton was a
regular visitor to the primary departments of QVS. I saw him on several
occasions as a friend of a housemaster. He was one of many visitors. I
presume the school security had cleared him. Nothing of this was in the
Cullen report. Lord Cullen is a Mason with a duty to protect brother Masons.
There is evidence to show corruption and maladministration by the police.
The following statement will show why the police are not going to be
investigated. CUT
END OF TRANSCRIPT

This yet again provides further evidence that Lord Cullen's Report on the
Dunblane Tragedy WAS a cover up.

I am promised within a short time a full affidavited statement of the goings
on at QVS. Including young boys being exeated overnight to adult parties.
Strange behaviour of Hamilton, Police and senior local individuals!

We are again justified in asking questions as to why NO police action was
taken to protect these children from paedophelia; why do the Masons claim
Hamilton was not a member; why is none of this dealt with by Cullen; was
Cullen covering for senior Politicians, senior police etc.; was Hamilton
blackmailing senior police and politicians; Was George Robertson rewarded
with the post of Sec. State for Defence for promoting Hamilton's firearms
application; was Hamilton providing small boys to senior politicians and
police; why did not the MP for Dunblane take action against Hamilton or
investigate QVS; Did Betty Mandelbum [as he was known at Uni.] get back into
the cabinet because of his knowledge of this; was Gordon Brown forced to step
aside in the leadership fight becauses of his involvement with Hamilton; etc.
etc.

It looks very much as if our Government is rotten to the very core -
involvement of Police, Judges, politicians, cabinet ministers. If this is not
the case what other explanation is there as for the life of me I can't work
one out.

Good luck  if I can help you in your efforts in defence of the British
peoples and our Nation please just ask. Do visit our shop, if you are ever in
the area, we are open from 10.30ish. till 5.30pm., 6 days a week.

Regards,
Greg

Greg Lance - Watkins,
The Welsh Assembly,
c/o Glance Back Books,
17  Upper Church Street,
CHEPSTOW,
NP16 5EX
Monmouthshire,
Britain.

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[CTRL] Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Barry Seal, Carlos Marcellos, Jim Garrison and JFK

1999-11-15 Thread Kris Millegan





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Dear Cat:
The manuscript is in NYC right now, in the hands of a proofer and my
literary agent, Tim Hays. Tim is "shopping" it with the big publishing
houses. My last two books were published by a small publisher, Huntington
House (now Vital Issues Press). I didn't want to go with them again because I
ended up doing over 500 radio interviews, and only one TV show (NBC's
"Extra"). The Geraldo and Povich people called them to arrange appearances
and they totally dropped the ball. Anyhow, I'm keeping my fingers crossed
that the book will be published by Christmas, but it looks like that would
take a miracle right now. I don't even have the first galley back for
proofing.

Odom

P.S. To the list, Carlos Marcello was a much-bejeweled short, fat man, who
liked to wear silver-gray suits, and smoke big cigars. I met him in a
restaurant at a motel halfway between New Orleans and Baton Rouge in the
summer of 1971, with a member of the rock band I played with at the time. My
friend's "straight gig" was working for the Bally company, hustling pinball
machines and installing stereo systems in bars and night clubs. Marcello had
some interest in the company. We actually had lunch with him (and about 4
huge thugs, all of whom had been linemen on the Tulane football team at one
time or another). Marcello was nice to us. I was 18 and my friend was 24. All
Marcello talked about was his libido and his sexual appetite for young ladies.
Marcello has been connected to the JFK assassination by several
investigative reporters. New Orleans DA Jim Garrison believed Marcello was
connected to the assassination. Marcello always denied that, but it was well
known that David Ferrie worked for him on occasion. Ferrie was to be
Garrison's key witness until his untimely death. No one ever really found out
what/who killed Ferrie.

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1999-11-15 Thread Kris Millegan






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Weekly Analysis November 15, 1999

IMF's Camdessus Misses the Point

Summary:

The recent resignation of Michel Camdessus from the directorship of
the International Monetary Fund (IMF) invites us to consider the
effectiveness of the IMF and other international entities in
managing the global economy. There has been much criticism of the
IMF. Our perception is that more than a failure, the IMF has been
largely irrelevant. From its management of the Third World debt
problem to its mishandling of the Asia crisis, the IMF did not and
could not understand the real forces driving economic development.
The problem is not so much the people as it is the focus. So deeply
linked to existing economic forces and orthodoxies, the IMF is
incapable of recognizing emerging forces and new realities. It
always manages to miss the point.


Analysis:

The resignation of the leader of the International Monetary Fund,
Michel Camdessus, two years before the end of his term is a
punctuation mark in economic history. He came into office at a time
when the world's major economic issues were Third World debt, the
United States' inability to compete with Japan and Gorbachev's
attempt to restructure Russia's economy. He leaves at a time when
the major issues are the growing irrelevance of the Third World to
the global economy, the inability of Japan to compete with the
United States and the cataclysmic failure of economic reform in
Russia. Camdessus and the IMF were deeply involved in all of these
issues. What is fascinating is that despite its involvement, the
institution has been largely irrelevant - except when it has been
harmful.

It is important not to personalize the failure. This is not about
Michel Camdessus. It is not even about the technocrats who manage
the IMF and its sister institution, the World Bank. Rather, it is
about the impersonal forces that govern the international system
and the fantasy that a de-nationalized technocracy can manage that
system. The story of Camdessus' tenure is not about incompetence or
corruption, although there was plenty of the former and the jury is
still out on the latter. Instead, his tenure is about impotence:
the inability of the technocrats to either understand or control
the forces at work. No one could have done the job. The job was
undoable.

Consider the case of Third World debt. Back in the 1980s, Third
World countries found themselves unable to repay billions of
dollars in debt owed to the world's banks. Had they all gone into
default together, they threatened to damage or even sink the global
economic system. Under U.S. Secretary of State Nicholas Brady, a
scheme for refinancing the debt was devised, with the IMF playing
the role of policeman of Third World economies by linking lines of
credit to painful austerity. One might take this as a triumph for
the IMF and international institutions. Indeed it was, until we
recall the origins of the crisis.

During the 1970s, the world saw a massive increase in the price of
global commodities, led by oil. The conventional wisdom was that
commodity prices would only go higher. The Club of Rome and other
sophisticated observers of history pointed out that we were running
out of scarce resources. The world was compared to a space ship:
resources were being exhausted by growing populations and
intensified industrial use. It followed that the price of
commodities like oil, copper and wheat could only go up. If the
price of commodities went up forever, it followed that the best
place to invest your money was in commodities. This was rocket
science, right? The primary producers of commodities were Third
World countries that lacked industrial capability but controlled
natural resources sorely needed by the industrial world. Any sane
investor in the 1970s knew that investing in industries that
purchased raw materials was dumb, while investing in producers of
raw materials was smart.

So everyone, particularly the international banking community and
the World Bank, began pouring billions of dollars into ventures
from Mexico to the Philippines to Nigeria, all designed to produce
raw materials. Since oil was going to cost 40, 50 or even 100
dollars a barrel on spaceship earth, the cost of production was not
critical. The price was going up and it was important to get in
while the getting was good. All of the technocrats 

Re: [CTRL] The Origins of the Illuminati

1999-11-15 Thread sno0wl

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On 14 Nov 99, at 17:02, Rodrigo Cesar Banhara wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 The Origins of the Illuminati

 Not much has been said about the origins of the Illuminati. Some researchers
 trace the origins back to the Bavarian Illuminati in the 1700's, but this
 secret organization goes way back.

 The Illuminati can be traced back at least 4000 years, but the first Order
 wasn't fully established until the Babylonian era, around 1000 B.C. So around
 4000 years ago the original Brotherhood was infiltratedHowever, the plans were
 made already during the Sumerian era, in Mesopotamia, which is the land
 between the rivers Tigris and Euphrates (Iraq), under the reign of King
 Ur-Nammu. This was during the Third Dynasty of Ur, around 2112-2004 B.C.

Something seems out of whack here. To begin with there is actual
archeological evidence of an elaborate burial of a SumerianQueen
and her court and some very famous Sumerian artefacts which
date to circa 2500 B.C.--which would coincide with the end of the
Babylonian era--Ur was much, much earlier. Followed by Sumeria,
followed by Babylon.

Secondly, the White Brotherhood, as it is presently concieved via
Blavatsky et al., and the Theosophists, is Indo-European. The
people of Babylon and Ur were Semitic peoples. The Indo-
Europeans came from the North--from Scythia and other  regions.
Actually they came to Sumer and Ur as barbarian invaders from the
North and East and, although they were conquerors, were
assimilated into the Sumerian culture--which was the higher culture
at the time. The "Aryans" were originally an Indo-European peoples-
-although they were later redefined and/or confused with the
peoples of Scandinavia and the northern Germanic Teutonic tribes.
There would seem to be some further confusion since this White
Brotherhood has its headquarters in Tibetwhich would seem to
make them Asiatic. However Tibet has the distinction of being the
northernmost location and possessed of the loftiest and most
unpassable mountains. Which would serve the purpose of making
this White Brotherhood the most secretive and inaccessible. So
who knows what their racial origins are.





sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] [Fwd: A Joke (I Think)]

1999-11-15 Thread Michael S. Goodman

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Except for the part about keeping Clinton on, I wonder if we would be very much
worse off if this scenario were to come to pass!



Mike S. Goodman

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[CTRL] [12] The Arizona Project

1999-11-15 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
The Arizona Project
Michael Wendland©1977
ISBN 0-8362-0728-9
Sheed Andrews and McMeel, Inc.
6700 Squibb Rd.
Misson Kansas 66202
276 pps. - first edition - out-of-print
New revised edition - available amazon.com
Paperback, 304pp.
ISBN: 0945165021
Blue Sky Press, Incorporated
June 1988
--[12]--

12.
Ned Warren, Sr., Talks

Halfway between Phoenix and Tucson, just outside the tiny desert town of
Florence, stands the Arizona State Prison. Its cream-colored walls are
patrolled by machine gun-toting guards in cowboy hats and mirrored
sunglasses. The place is forbidding. Hopelessly overcrowded with nearly twice
its twelve-hundred-inmate capacity, the prison has often been used by
Hollywood film makers to set the mood for B movies on the horrors of prison
life.

And indeed, the prison's sixty-nine-year history is filled with dozens of
real-life examples of such horrors, not the least of which was an old Indian
legend that proclaimed the early weeks of each year as "the months of blood,"
a time when the Indian war gods would demand the lives of the prison's most
notorious stool pigeons. In the twenties and thirties, there had actually
been a series of such killings. Six inmates were murdered under similar
circumstances—a knife in the back, exactly as proclaimed in the legend.
Although the tale no longer causes prison guards to go on alert each winter,
other bloody incidents have occurred. Beatings, riots, breakouts, and random
violence continue with regularity over the years, most often in the early
weeks of the new year. While few of the inmates believe it, the Indian legend
is still passed along on their grapevine. It is part of the prison's lore.

Tony Serra, a dark-haired forty-two-year-old con man serving an eight-year
land fraud sentence, must have been well aware of the old story the morning
of January 3, 1977. About 9:00 A.M., he mailed a letter to a Phoenix attorney
who had been working with Richard Frost, one of the IRE team's land fraud
sources. The letter was the third such note mailed or sneaked out of the
prison over the last several weeks. The first two had gone to Frost. The
third, on Frost's urgings, was sent to the attorney. All three letters had
the same message. "They're going to get me," Serra warned. "I'm going to be
killed. I know too much. Get me out of here."

Serra was the convict who had told Frost the previous summer that he knew
where land fraud kingpin Ned Warren, Sr., had stashed a pile of incriminating
documents. And Serra, once a close associate of Warren's, had indicated to
Frost that he just might be willing to start talking.

Ever since IRE team members had begun interviewing him on the land fraud
industry, Frost had been harping on the Tony Serra case. Serra was in fear
for his life, Frost had insisted to reporters. Unless he was removed from the
state prison and transferred under another name to another prison, he was a
marked man. The reporters had listened sympathetically to Frost. But they
were powerless to do much about it. It was only Frost's word, though Phoenix
detective Lonzo McCracken had voiced similar concerns over Serra's fate.
McCracken, too, had told the reporters that not much could be done.
Authorities needed something to go on besides fear.

In December, it looked like they had found that something else. Serra was
hospitalized at the prison with a series of suspicious bruises and cuts. But
prison officials had denied an assault on Serra. It was the result of a fall,
a slight accident, McCracken was told.

Shortly after mailing his letter Monday, January 3, Serra reported for work
in the prison's sign shop, a wide open area filled with some seventy-five
inmates and large, noisy machines used to stamp out state highway signs.
There was only one guard.

Serra was a nervous man that morning. He had stayed in his cell for the
better part of a week, refusing to mix with the other inmates or show up for
his job in the sign shop. When he reported for work a few minutes before ten,
he was met by Robert Deardorff, the sign shop supervisor.

Deardorff was angry. Why had Serra skipped work? Did he want another job? Was
he unhappy?

Serra was quiet. No, he would stay there. He hadn't been feeling well. But
he'd be okay now.

Deardorff shrugged. Inmates were often like that, sullen and moody. He wasn't
a prison psychologist. It was hard enough getting the convicts to work. Serra
was a loner. There was no getting through to him. Whatever his problem was,
it appeared that Serra was coming to grips with it. Deardorff was pleased. He
told Serra to start working and returned to his office.

Serra walked off. He talked to no one, though several inmates greeted him as
he passed. He looked straight ahead. He looked afraid.

About two minutes past ten, the prison guard heard something strange above
the roar of the machinery. It sounded like scuffling. He walked towards the
noise, which was over almost immediately.

On the grimy concrete floor 

Re: [CTRL] FYI - Virus Alert W32/FunLove.4099

1999-11-15 Thread Tatman, Robert

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The lesson is ALWAYS KEEP YOUR ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE UP-TO-DATE. Make sure you
have the latest virus definitions from your vendor. Remember, "eternal
vigilance is the price of liberty."

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 W32/FunLove.4099 is a new virus. AVERT has assigned it a MEDIUM risk
 assessment.

 W32/FunLove.4099 is a parasitic Win32 PE file infector that works on both
 Win9x and WinNT 4.0. It infects .EXE, .SCR and .OCX files. When the virus
 is first run, it drops a file called FLCSS.EXE into the %SYSTEM% folder.
 The virus then directly infects all .EXE, .SCR, and .OCX files in the
 folders Program Files and WINDOWS/WINNT, including any sub-folders.
 Because the default Windows shell Explorer.exe is kept in here, the virus
 is re-executed whenever the system is restarted. The virus uses a routine
 lifted from the W32/Bolzano virus to patch the NT files NTOSKRNL.EXE and
 NTLDR.

 This enables the virus to have full access to the system after the next
 system reboot.

 Periodically, the virus scans any network shares with write access, and
 infects any EXE, SCR or OCX files on the shared network drives. The virus
 is not encrypted or polymorphic.

 Infected files have a copy of the FLCSS.EXE file added to the end of the
 last PE section, and the length of the infected files increases by 4099
 bytes. When executed under DOS, the file FLCSS.EXE displays the message
 ~Fun Loving Criminal~ and then tries to reset the machine in order to load
 Windows.

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Re: [CTRL] FYI - Virus Alert W32/FunLove.4099

1999-11-15 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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Not in my case. I dont use windows  never see virus in my machine hence that time.

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 12:54:03 -0500, Tatman, Robert wrote:

The lesson is ALWAYS KEEP YOUR ANTIVIRUS SOFTWARE UP-TO-DATE. Make sure you
have the latest virus definitions from your vendor. Remember, "eternal
vigilance is the price of liberty."

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: FC: NSA patents voice recognition technology

1999-11-15 Thread Michael S. Goodman

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I'm astounded that this wasn't classified by NSA !!


Mike Goodmann

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: FC: NSA patents voice recognition technology

1999-11-15 Thread nessie

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I'm astounded that this wasn't classified by NSA !!

Kinda makes ya wonder what they have that IS classified,   don't it?

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[CTRL] D. I. R. T., B. O., van Eck and Tempest

1999-11-15 Thread nessie

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shoulder, so to speak, as you use your computer. It could be you are using
a bootleg copy of Photoshop to manipulate that new JPG your cyber-friend
from alt.sex.bestiality sent you. Maybe you're encripting instructions
for your connection about when and where to drop off the shipment. Perhaps
you're cheating on your significant other who owns a Smith and Wesson.
Then again maybe your computer privacy problems are more mundane. Maybe
you just need to enter some proprietary data that in your competitor's
hands could be used to drive your company out of the marketplace and with
it your loving family out of that nice new home you haven't paid for yet.

Meet Frank Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]. For all you know for sure, Frank
Jones may already have met you and you didn't even notice. This retired
New York City detective has written a widely used, but little-known
software program called D.I.R.T. D.I.R.T stands for Data Interception by
Remote Transmission. Like a telephone wiretap for computers, it gives its
users the ability to intercept and monitor data from any Windows PC in the
world. It also allows them to take almost complete remote control of your
computer and all it's functions any time it's online. They can, for
example, turn on that little camera you think is off and watch you doing
whatever it is you do when you think you can't be seen. Most people feel
secure when they encrypt their data, but it's only an illusion if a
keystroke monitor is in action. D.I.R.T. can defeat Pretty Good Privacy in
a matter of minutes simply by stealing the user's key as it is typed in.
Then there's the microphone.

D.I.R.T. is a tiny Trojan horse. It only occupies 20k. A Trojan horse
usually comes disguised as an ordinary OS command or other program which
it replaces and is able to mimic. Then it goes looking for a unused corner
of your hard drive where it deposits a "secret" file with sinister
instructions such as go contact its sender and report everything it has
seen. It can then replace itself with the original command or program and
delete itself, leaving you none the wiser. There are a number of different
ways a Trojan Horse can be snuck onto a target system, but most enter via
an email attachment or as part of a downloaded binary.

If you are a Linux user you are not necessarily faced with the Trojan
horse problem since you can see everything that goes on in your open
source code OS. With Linux, and sufficient vigilance, you can defend
yourself against Trojan horses and a variety of other threats as well. But
even with Linux you cannot guarantee that your every keystroke is not
instantly viewed by covert, prying eyes.

You probably aren't under surveillance. Most people aren't. But it is
impossible to  know for sure. As Frank Jones himself
sayshttp://www.thecodex.com/c_tempest.html, "Surveillance technology has
progressed to the point that is possible to identify individuals walking
city streets from satellites in orbit. Telephone, fax and e-mail
communications can routinely be monitored. Personal information files are
kept on citizens from cradle to grave. There is nowhere to run . . .
nowhere to hide . . ."

But not all hackers and crackers work for Big Brother. D.I.R.T has already
inspired a dangerous imitation, Back
Orificehttp://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/security/bo.html. Back Orifice is
a highly effective backdoor designed by a group of crackers called the
Cult of the Dead Cow. Just because the interest of the powers that be
hasn't been invoked by some slip of your tongue or your email use of an
Eschelonhttp://users.erols.com/johnster/echelon.htm keyword doesn't mean
that some techno-geek somewhere isn't looking "over your shoulder" at this
very moment, or even into your bedroom.

If Back Orifice, D.I.R.T., Eschelon and even PROMIS
http://www.pinknoiz.com/covert/inslaw.html are old news to you and
you've disconnected from the internet and only run Linux, are you safe
from surveillance? Not if that high tech peeping tom across the street
trades his binoculars for a working knowledge of TEMPEST and Van Eck.

People often confuse these two, but they are quite different TEMPEST is a
set of standards used to gauge and reduce electromagnetic emanations from
electronic equipment. The point of knowing TEMPEST is to prevent a Van Eck
device from being effective. A Van Eck device is a passive, standoff
computer surveillance tool that can also be used to covertly monitor any
television set, even one in use with a VCR. It does not allow the user to
access the target computer but rather to allows him to monitor via radio
wave what is displayed on the target computer's CRT screen.

The Tempest project has been a joint research and development effort of
the U. S. National Security Agency (NSA) and the Department of Defense
(DoD). Even the program's name had been classified for most of that
period. Depending on whose version of the story you believe TEMPEST either
stands for Transient ElectroMagnetic Pulse 

Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #2

1999-11-15 Thread Tatman, Robert

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"For the love of God, Montresor!" he cried, as the final brick was laid in
place, entombing him with a television which would only show the Gameshow
Channel, interspersed with reruns of the 700 Club...surely a fate worse than
death...

 -Original Message-
 From: Ric Carter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 12:31 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  [CTRL] Skeptic News - Saturday #2

@ The Cask of Amontillado:

http://www.literature.org/authors/poe-edgar-allan/amontillado.html

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Re: [CTRL] Center of Attention - The Ark.

1999-11-15 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Jason,

The only way to bring about the downfall of the forces of darkness and the
"Evil Empire" and bring the Force of Light into action is to recover The Ark
of The Covenant, from the Hill of Tara (Torah) in County Meath, Ireland and
then the duped lower echelons, as you call them, will snap out of it and
change sides and help the people who want to learn to be good to survive.

Please visit:- http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/ and click on
JAH, on the homepage. I think that's what you're looking for.

Then contact me and I'll give you further information about the
Survival-Plan. There is a mountain of information there including a small
section containing information about UFO's that you should find enlightening
if that is your main interest. One piece you should really like is:-

 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/noah.htm

I will tell you everything you need to do to survive, including where and
how you have to be. But first we must recover The Ark and draw the people
who want to be good towards The Light. Those who come to The Light will be
saved. Those who don't, don't deserve to be.

Some of what you have said is way off the mark, but quite a lot of what you
have said is true, especially about what people must do in order to get the
Force of Light to intervene and save them.

I don't have time to go through your article line by line and tell you which
bits are right and which bits are wrong, just now, but if you study my
website you should be able to figure some of it out for yourself and then
I'll do the rest for you, if you want me to.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.

 --- Forwarded Message Follows ---
 Date sent:  Sun, 14 Nov 1999 08:06:25 -0500 (EST)
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From:   Jason Dunlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] (by way of Jon
Locke)
 Subject:[illusions] Center of Attention newsletter #118
 Send reply to:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Center of Attention newsletter
 Twice, Monthly newsletter about UFOs Angels, and the NWO.
 The Ascension of Earth.

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 Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Directors:  Jason Dunlap, Barbara Bane, Wayne Nicholas
 
 Center of Attention newsletter #118
 Nov. 1999

 UFO Intelligence Apparatus
 Part III
 by Jason Dunlap

 In the past two issues, I showed how a vast, technologically advanced,
network of government sponsored agencies and personnel, have evolved into a
giant UFO Intelligence apparatus.  I believe the term "apparatus" is more
appropriate than agency, or Cabal.  It's more like a thing, a loosely,
flung-together contraption, controlled by the many arms of the
"octopus-like" arms of the power-elite.  The Apparatus operates for the
benefit of an elite agenda to dominate and control the world population.
 The first thing to truly understand is that there really is a relatively
small group of people that use their vast wealth and resources to fulfill an
agenda of world conquest, which they and their ancestors have been committed
to for hundreds, if not thousands, of years.

 At this time in history, the elite are in possession of awesome, advanced
alien technology that gives them an unbelievable advantage over the
resources available to anyone who might oppose their agenda.  The price
these fools have paid to be given absolute control is to be subservient to
the advanced beings that gave them the technology.  They'll be kings, but
will have to run things the way the "evil empire" wants them to.  They
don't really believe that will be a problem, however.  They look at it as
an inevitable initiation into a great Galactic Brotherhood.  They consider
being Planetary Kings an honored place in the vast working of galactic
society.  Their true destiny, amounts to nothing more than prison camp
turn-coats.  The beings they are dealing with, intend to use the humanity
of Earth as a mere resource of food, labor and amusement.

 The UFO Intelligence Apparatus includes certain departments in every
secret government agency.  Most of the people involved, unwittingly
cooperate with the hidden agendas of the power elite.  This includes the
military of every country, the national security agencies of every
country, and the United Nations.  To this end, every conceivable means to
control the activities, and behavior of every person has been developed.
They have secret weapons capable of awesome destruction.  They developed
mind control technology to sway the emotions, and thoughts of any targeted
person or general area.  On the political side, agendas for population
control, depopulation, genetic and ethic selection are being fulfilled using
technology developed from alien provided information.  Recent reports, from
reliable sources within the darkest corners of government, 

Re: [CTRL] Who they are.

1999-11-15 Thread JAH Publications




  Dear Joshua2,
  
  I know you don't like my website at:- 
  
  
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/
  
  as you have stated so very clearly; publicly and 
  aggressively, but if you really think you are Joshua the Second and you want 
  to bring down the Wallstreet of Jericho, I suggest politely, if you want to 
  know who "they" are, that you access:- 
  
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/300.htm 
  
  
  and enjoy yourself reading the list of names, 
  that you are looking for. Then go get them, like Michael told you to 
  do.
  
  Peace be upon you,
  
  JAH.


Re: [CTRL] Wrong Terms Mislead Public About Guns

1999-11-15 Thread JAH Publications

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 Dear Bob,

 The world is full of misleading terms that are purposely designed to
deceive the sheeple.

 Please check out:-

 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/defin.htm

 for a list of some of them. Hope you enjoy it and will want to add to it.
If so please email to me and I can update it. That goes for all of you.

 Peace be upon you,

 JAH.


 - Original Message -
 From: Bob Stokes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 10:54 PM
 Subject: [CTRL] Wrong Terms Mislead Public About Guns


  -Caveat Lector-
 
  http://www.seattle-pi.com/opinion/soap06.shtml
 
  Wrong terms mislead the public about guns
 
 
 
  Saturday, November 6, 1999
 
  By MICHAEL S. BROWN
  SPECIAL TO THE POST-INTELLIGENCER
 
 
  The ability to control the terminology in a debate conveys a powerful
  advantage. In the national gun-control debate, this principle has been
  expertly exploited by gun-control advocates. The emotionally charged,
but
 the
  technically meaningless term "assault weapon" is a case in point.
 




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Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread JAH Publications

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Dear Eagle 1,

Hello. I hope you are well and am very glad that you have found the dialogue
amazing because I wouldn't like people to find it boring. I am also glad
that you have quoted Ezekiel 34 because it is one of my favourite pieces and
I have, in fact, explained it in great detail on my website. Perhaps you
might like to take a look at it. Its URL address is:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/rabbis.htm

From what you have said about the so-called christian priests giving
Christianity a black eye, whom I also mention in the above explanation and
about whom you and I are in total agreement, you should love the
explanation. Please feel free to show it to your friends.

Of course you are allowed to believe as you wish; everyone has their
free-will. It is one of The Laws of this planet.

What Revelation 11:9 states, and you have misquoted, is that The Ark of The
Covenant will be (in the future) seen in the City called NEW Jerusalem that
John saw COMING DOWN out of heaven (a UFO?)and of course it will be, when it
comes down in the near future. After I have retrieved it from Tara, in
fulfillment of Malachi 4.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/noah.htm

As you have correctly stated: God is not stupid; for which I can personally
vouch. But then you go on to say that He would not be so stupid as to leave
The Ark on Earth. So, by so doing, you are actually telling God that you
think He is stupid for doing so. And you think I'm trying to place myself
above God? What then are you doing when you call Him stupid?

The Ark HAS TO BE on Earth because it is God's Witness against His People.
It cannot act as His Witness if it is not here to WITNESS what the people
are doing.

If you want to know why it is my job to recover The Ark then I suggest you
go to my website at:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/

and then click on JAH on the homepage.

I repeat that a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing and you too
obvioulsy consider yourself to be another expert, like Penny does, who knows
more about God than His servant does.

You are right that it will not be recovered until the end of this age. This
is the end of this age. Read:-

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/signs.htm

and then you will KNOW that it is the "End Time".

You say no hu-man is worthy to discover the things of God. Where did, or
when did I say that I am a hu-man? Is it laughable? They laughed at Noah too
and we all know what happened to them because of their arrogant unbelief.
Calling God stupid as you have done is not verging on blasphemy; it is
blasphemy. For your information; I never act and I NEVER play church because
Jesus told everyone in Matthew 6:6 NOT to go to church.

Ireland is neither in the desert nor in a secret place. Everyone knows where
Ireland is or can look it up on a map. I am pleased to be able to agree with
a lot of what you have said and would like you to calm down and stop
breaking the Eleventh Commandment and look at my website for yourself, with,
if possible, an open mind, because I feel sure that you will find it
extremely enlightening and enjoy it, as long as you approach it with the
right attitude. Perhaps then you might even like to help me to obtain a
permit to dig from Sile de Valera, so I can recover The Ark and show it to
you, so you can then apologise to God for calling Him stupid.

Throughout the history of the ages, Satan has always used people who thought
they understood the Scriptures to attack those who do, by getting them to
misquote the Scriptures and shout down those who speak the Truth, so it will
not be heard. It seems that nothing has changed; exactly as Jesus
prophesied. Go away from me those who call me Lord (christians) but do not
do the things I say; I know you not.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.



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From: Eagle 1 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)


 -Caveat Lector-

 This dialogue in the messages attached is truly amazing...

 To Pennie and JAH and whomever else may be interested:
 Everyone is entitled to believe as they wish to...  allow me to believe as
I
 so choose.
 It is my own PERSONAL BELIEF that the ark of the covenant will *never* be
 found in this earth age, or on the face of this earth until God so
chooses.

 In Revelation 11:19 "And the temple of God was opened [for all to see] in
 heaven, and there was seen in His temple the ark of His testament [also
 known as the ark of the covenant] ..."  He clearly states in this passage
 alone,  that the ark is in heaven...  where ever that is.

 One would assume by implication of the scriptures,  by the name 'Emmanuel'
 or 'Immanuel' as stated in Matthew, Mark and Luke chapter 1,  which means
 "Yah dwells with us",  and with the conception of Christ,  He is so
dwelling
 and continues to do so.  WHERE He is in each of our lives is private
 

Re: [CTRL] Court says no to FreeRepublic.com

1999-11-15 Thread Tatman, Robert

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Well, what do you think they mean by "the marketplace of ideas"??  ;^)

 -Original Message-
 From: Nurev Ind Research [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 10:00 AM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Court says no to FreeRepublic.com

  snip

 Ah Capitalism. Even thought is a commodity.

 Joshua2

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[CTRL] TILL WE MEET AGAIN! [sobran takes leave of absence]

1999-11-15 Thread Bard

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Brothers and Sisters,

The time is now near at hand which must probably determine
whether Americans are to be free men or slaves,
whether they are to have any property they can call their own,
whether their houses and farms are to be pillaged and destroyed
and themselves confined to a state of wretchedness from which
no human efforts will deliver them.

The fate of unborn millions will now depend, under God, on the courage
of this
 army.

Our cruel and unrelenting enemy leaves us only the choice of
brave resistance or the most abject submission.

We have, therefore, to resolve to conquer or die."
-- George Washington

Updated November 15, 1999

 Joseph
Sobran
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Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread JAH Publications

 -Caveat Lector-

I agree with you. But then I didn't start it in the first place. I'm not
back-biting; haven't called anyone any name or insulted anyone. Just
defending myself. Sorry.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)


 -Caveat Lector-

 I am going to REQUEST that this thread stop as it now has nothing to do
with
 conspiracy theory and is no longer an issue that can be persued on this
list.
  IF the participants wish to continue the back and forht back-biting and
name
 calling then they can do it OFF-LIST


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Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread JAH Publications

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Sorry Tenorlove,

I'm only defending myself and have attacked no-one. If they stop attacking
me; I'll have no need to defend myself.

Hope we're still friends.

Peace be upon you,

JAH.


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 OT? Yes, OT, as in OLD TOPIC--VERY old topic, in fact. So PLEASE take
 the flame war off list--especially those writers who have not mastered
 "cut and paste"--so that the rest of us have room in our mailboxes for
 stuff like book chapters etc. Thanks for hearing me out.

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[CTRL] Martial Law Training in Columbia, SC

1999-11-15 Thread Mack White

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From Alex Jones' http://www.infowars.com/

11/13/99
A FLASH RADAR SPECIAL REPORT
THIS FROM AN EMAIL I RECEIVED TODAY

Well folks, they're at it again.  Please read what was sent to me this
morning before I located this in the papers:


I absolutely could not believe what I heard on the local news last night
here in Columbia SC. The news was warning citizens to stay away from 5
points in downtown Columbia SC. 5 points is our cities "restaurant row".
It's also all where most of the bars are located cause it's right near the
University of SC (USC).  In other words, it's pretty much the center of
nightlife here in Columbia, but NOT last night!

The local news at 7:00PM last night issued a warning to citizens to stay
away from the area as it was being used by the Marines for Urban warfare
exercises!  The late night news last night showed 5 points
abandoned except for Marines vehicles and troops.  Wonder what the hell the
college kids thought at the university when they they were turned way by
armed troops trying to go get a beer after class last night at one of the
local hangouts!  More choppers today coming into town today. Latest reports
are we now have at least several hundred Marines camped out IN the city.
Local news reported early this week that the exercises had been "extended"
from the original 1 week to a month or more. Now we hear they are here
until "further notice".  WTF?  Then today, I'm out taking my wife and our
new son to the doctor and 6
choppers fly over our truck. I'm not a military person, but it looked like
2 dark green black hawks, some other smaller dark chopper, some kind of big
"air crane" type chopper, a big white chopper (bigger than a black hawk)
and a smaller white chopper just like the smaller dark chopper but white.
A guy I work with who's wife works for the city of Columbia, told me today,
that his wife came home last night and said that one of the Marine officers
had gotten into a heated argument with our Mayor down at city hall about
"carrying live ammo". What the hell is going on? Everyone as work today was
talking about this, a lot of kinda wary jokes about we are being "invaded".

Talked to a guy in a chatroom from Myrtle Beach SC a while ago.  He
couldn't believe it. Said he had heard nothing about it.  The only report I
can find about them even being here on the net is on the Reuters/AP link
off of the Drudge report. Enter Marines in the search box, and then look on
the 2nd page of "hits". You will see a 5 line story about hundreds of
Marines conducting exercises in Columbia SC.  Very little in our local news
about what is going on except for occasional warning to stay out of this or
that area.  Is this normal?

Who has white helecopters? I assumed they were like medical helecopters or
something but someone on a chat site said they are UN. They were not light
blue or light grey but pure white. Never seen any like that around here
before.

From The State, Columbia, SC http://www.thestate.com/ :

URBAN WAR GAMES UNNECESSARY

By REBECCA BURGESS ROGERS
Special to The State
Published on 11/10/99
--
Hundreds of U.S. Marines are in town this week to train in simulated war
conditions in an urban setting. According to the Oakland Tribune, when
training was conducted there this spring, residents were willing to deal
with the slight inconvenience. But when the exercises moved into their back
yards, things changed. Despite promises to the contrary, helicopters flew
low and weapons-fire noise was at an unacceptable level.

"The helicopters in the neighborhoods were not part of the plan," said Col.
Mark Thiffault. "They were not supposed to be flying at 200 feet. Our air
planner put the exercise into play without checking with us. As a result,
we and the neighbors had a big surprise." What surprises should we expect
in Columbia?

What a tremendous public relations event to promote violent response to
conflict! How can anyone morally or ethically justify this "need" to train
our military -- in our cities or anywhere else? When our nation is the
largest purveyor of violence on this planet, it should not be surprising
that our young people are so violent.

The mayors of Oakland, Alameda and Monterey "earned" $4.5 million. Is the
military paying our mayor? And what is that money used for? Instead of
spending taxpayers' money for this high-tech,window-dressing exercise aimed
at convincing us there is a foreign enemy about to invade, it could
be better spent on the many victims of the current "urban war" -- students
whose schools are in crisis, people who have no homes, people who have been
downsized out of work.

We need to stop playing war games not only in our back yard but also in
other countries where such training is a fact of daily life. Instead, we
should be training true peacemakers to go into areas of conflict ... people
who are intensely trained and committed to work for non-violent resolutions
... people who do not carry guns.

Being a socially aware 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Mythic Language

1999-11-15 Thread sno0wl

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On 15 Nov 99, at 13:15, Andrew Hennessey wrote:

  -Caveat Lector-

 hi,

 a Unifying Theory of Linguistics - ie. language from ONE COMMON ROOT
 was proposed by a Dane called Stevenson who wrote a treatise on Phoenetics
 in the
 19TH CENTURY.
 Using his system of phoenetics - the 'this word sounds like this word in
 this other language' idea - his system could be used to translate ancient
 scripts AND modern languages.
 This work - which was scoffed by the experts of the day and is still
 ignored, unheard of and buried, lies in the UNIVERSITY OF EDINBURGH LIBRARY
 in Scotland.

 please forward to those interested on the Thoth list.
 I would also suggest that we email the edinburgh university library to
 obtain copies of this very important thesis.

 The source of this information is a researcher for film, tv and the
 discovery channel and is also responsible for Rosslyn relics and the
 finding of the King Charles royal treasure in the river forth by Edinburgh.

There is a two volume set called A Book of the Beginnings which
explores the origin of languages and hypothesizes that those who
eventually settled in Egypt  and built the pyramids first lived in the
British Isles.

A Book of the Beginnings, University Press, 1974 (from original
publication at the turn of the century) by Gerald Massey
ISBN 0-8216-0211-X

It is an exhaustive study of language, symbols and mythology. I
read it in midnight frenzies some 20 years ago and don't remember
much of it nowexcept that at the time I couldn't put it down.


sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] Who they are.

1999-11-15 Thread sno0wl

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On 14 Nov 99, at 22:33, Nurev Ind Research wrote:

 I know who " they " are. Probably better than anyone on this list. Some of
 " them " are listed by Coleman. It's his paranoid racist interpretation of
 SOME of the raw material that has made his book worthless.

Would you expand on this a bit and "illuminate" the rest of us.


sno0wl

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Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #1

1999-11-15 Thread Tatman, Robert

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http://www.dxlc.com/solar/ (as of 11/15/99, 3:30 PM EST):

Flares and CMEs

9 C flares and 5 M flares were recorded on November 14. Region 8759 produced
a C3.6/1F event at 04:40 UTC and an M1.4 impulsive flare at 17:04 UTC.
Region 8763 was the source of a major flare, an M8.0/2B event at 08:01 UTC.
Region 8765 generated a C5.0 flare at 03:55 UTC, a C4.9 flare at 06:38 UTC,
a C5.0 flare at 15:40 UTC, an M2.2/SN flare at 16:23 UTC and finally an M2.9
impulsive flare at 18:09 UTC. Region 8766 produced the second major flare of
the day, an M5.6 event at 16:07 UTC. An apparently full halo CME was
observed starting at 18:30 in LASCO C2 images. Actually the CME may have
started earlier over the east limb but it was evident over the west limb at
that time. If the CME was associated with any of the 4 M flares occurring
shortly before, the earth will likely receive an impact on November 17.
Coronal mass ejections were observed earlier in the day as well,
particularly off the east limb.

A filament eruption in the northeast quadrant was observed starting at 18:36
UTC in LASCO EIT images.

November 12: Region 8759 produced an M1.7 long duration event peaking at
09:16 UTC. Material outflow was observed in most directions in LASCO C2
images and there is a chance that earth could receive an impact from the
coronal mass ejection on November 15.

The background x-ray flux is at the class C3 level.



 -Original Message-
 From: Ric Carter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 3:41 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  [CTRL] Skeptic News - Sunday #1

#  Class 'M' Solar Mass Ejection Likely To Strike Earth November
15:
   http://www.sightings.com/ufo5/Updateclassm.htm

Solar Mass Ejection
Update

11-13-99

http://www.dxlc.com/solar/Note: The page in the link above was changed
between yesterday and today. The following statement was removed from the
site for reasons unknown, but thankfully a copy of it was captured by us
before the page was altered:  Comment added at 18:21 UTC: The M flares from
region 8759 earlier today appears to have been associated with a halo
coronal mass ejection. The CME is fairly diffuse in LASCO C2 images. A more
detailed analysis should be available by the next main update, although it
does seem likely that the CME could impact the earth on November 15.

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Re: [CTRL] [adventuresunlimited] Sollogs 13

1999-11-15 Thread Tatman, Robert

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"A touch, a palpable touch..."

Bravo, Andrew!

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  -Caveat Lector-

 here, my stylus dipped in the ancient cauldron of xule
 do I - Xorg, hereby prophesise the following  to occur before 01/01/01

 1. I will visit the toilet in the next week
 2. I will breathe air
 3. I will eat of food
 4. I will drink of liquids
 5. verily shall I payeth mine phone bill
 6. I shall gaze upon the demented vortex of microsoft
 7. and an absence of sunshine shall befall us
 8. I shall tread the firmament
 9. and yea shall I turn mine television off
 10. and lo, I will hear of Unconstitutional things
 11. my neighbour shall be conned out of money
 12. verily I shall replace my toilet paper
 13. and unto us will cometh more prophesies

 So sayeth Ambassador Xorg divine embassy to humanity from the planet Xule,
 and lo, his wisdom doth supercede ye minions of Sollog.

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[CTRL] Coming Again

1999-11-15 Thread Kelly

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Coming Again
The orgasmic release of the Apocalypse myth
BY ROBERT ANTON WILSON

[ 11.15.99 ]

The sky is falling! The sky is falling! -- Chicken
Little

Back in the early 1980s, Vicki Weaver, a pious
Christian lady, persuaded her husband Randy
that the Bible proved that the final battle
between Christ and Antichrist would take place
in 1987, beginning with an attempted slaughter
of the Christians by ZOG -- the Zionist
Occupied Government in Washington, D.C. The
two of them (and their children) logically moved
to a high hill in Idaho -- Ruby Ridge -- where
they planned to stage their own last fight for
the Lord.

Alas, 1987 passed, Vicki had to recalculate, and
things were a bit fuzzy there for a while. But
then the '90s came 'round, Randy sold a
sawed-off shotgun to a government informer,
and the Feds arrived to arrest him. Randy and
Vicki thought they were facing the ZOG, the
Feds thought they were dealing with lunatics,
and the results were so bloody all around that
Ruby Ridge remains controversial to this day.

Sometimes, the Apocalypse can ruin your whole
week.

On the other hand, I have survived Doomsday
so many times that it has begun to bore me. In
the last three months alone, I have -- we all
have -- lived right on through three dates that
leading eschatologists have authoritatively
named as the Day of Reckoning (11 August, 11
September, and 7 November.).

I wonder why so many people have such a
lascivious longing for the Apocalypse? It seems
a far more popular fantasy game than Dungeons
 Dragons, and, of course, it has all the thrills
and chills of a slasher movie.

But there may be more here, just as there is to
horror and catastrophe movies if you think
about them. Neo-Freudians, and especially
Reichians, suggest that our form of civilization
stifles and constricts us so much that at times
we all long to experience some orgasmic but
catastrophic "explosion," like King Kong breaking
his chains and wrecking New York, or even
more like the masochist in bondage, according
to Dr. Reich. This sudden release from the
bondage-and-discipline of our jobs and our
taxes -- actually called the Rapture by
Fundamentalists -- seems ghoulishly attractive
to Christians, New Agers, and others who
believe in a "spirit" that will survive the general
wreckage. In that case, the end of the world
seems no worse than a visit to the dentist: You
know you'll feel better afterwards. This sort of
desire for Total Escape/Total Annihilation has
always had its bards and visionaries.

Christianity, for instance, started out as a
typical Doomsday cult:

Verily, I say unto you, there will be some of
them that stand here which shall not taste of
death until they have seen the Kingdom of God
come with power. -- Mark 9:1

And there shall be signs in the sun and in the
moon and in the stars... This generation shall
not pass until all be fulfilled. -- Luke 21: 25,32

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of
Man in heaven ... This generation shall not pass
until all these things be fulfilled. -- Matt 24:
30,34

Of course, when all the marks standing there
and their whole generation did pass without the
Apocalypse coming, these prophecies required
reinterpretation. The second most common
talent among Doomsayers -- after their
unparalleled ability to predict dates on which
the world perversely does not end -- is their
capacity to recalculate. But, then, theology is
logic with deuces and one-eyed jacks wild.

Among those not committed to the Rapture,
prophecies of doom usually have another
loophole: Only most of humanity will perish. In
these scenarios, those with the Right Ideas will
survive, although they will probably need to
stockpile food, water, and guns in advance.

Those with the Right Ideas are the ones who
believe in the Prophet, of course. Thus there
seems an element of sadism mixed in with the
masochism of the Millennialist mentality: We will
suffer only a little, these folks say, but the rest
of you motherfuckers are really going to get the
works. Well, Freud himself pronounced that
sadism and masochism always contain a bit of
one another.

Here's a brief list of some of the Doomsdays
that had to be postponed:

 1141 CE -- Hildegard of Bingen predicted
 the world would end that year. It didn't.
 October 22, 1844 -- This was Doomsday,
 as calculated from the Bible by William
 Miller, who had previously goofed by
 announcing that it would occur in 1843.
 When the 1844 prophecy also failed, new
 calculations from the same texts gave
 birth to the Adventists, the Seventh-day
 Adventists and, later, the Jehovah's
 Witnesses.
 The Jehovah's Witnesses originally picked
 1914 as the jackpot year. Some of them
 rejoiced in the bloody World War that
 began that year, as the palpable, visible,
 undeniable "beginning" of the end. But
 others calculated exact years for the end
 of the end: 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941,
 1975, and 1994, for 

[CTRL] Fwd: Waco Motive.

1999-11-15 Thread Kris Millegan





Kris,
We were in contact when I first joined the conspiracy list which I get
in digest form.  I have never posted there, and frankly do not know
how.  Now I do wish to post something, and in fact wish it distributed
as wide as possible.  I think perhaps this is your list.  Even if it is
not, could you forward the below to that list?  Believe me, I would be
ever so grateful
Michael Donovan
Below is the letter to Judge Walter S. Smith which I just mailed
certified return receipt requested this afternoon November 15, 1999.  In
this issue over the years there has been heavy mail tampering, as well
as heavy computer monitoring, FedEX tampering, and of course, phone.
Because of the mail tampering, I wish to post this on the internet as
far and wide a possible.  If you know any other boards or forums that
has an interest in these matters, please forward.
Michael Donovan
Norfolk, Virginia
(copy of letter follows)

Honorable Walter S. Smith
U.S. District Judge
United States District Court
800 Franklin
Waco, Texas 76701  Phone (254) 750 1519

Dear Judge Smith,
 Your Honor, I have filed a federal civil RICO case pro se in the
Federal Court in Norfolk, Virginia.  The case relates to a series of
events that explain motive for the assault on the Branch Davidians in
1993.  I had met Mr. Koresh on the motor vessel Schmonchi out of New
Bedford when he was a resident of Massachusetts, while I was under heavy
watch by who I now assume to be Treasury.
 The RICO case alleges a pattern of racketeering, by persons and
entities within both State and Federal governments, which started
shortly after correspondence between Shelby T. Brewer, Department of
Energy to the Honorable Senator Kennedy copied to the plaintiff,
correspondence from the Honorable Senator Moynihan, Senate Intelligence
Committee to both the Honorable Senator Kennedy and the plaintiff, and
the Offices of Naval Research in Arlington to the plaintiff copied to
the Honorable Senator Edward M. Kennedy.  This resulted in further
correspondence, from the plaintiff, as directed, to Commander Troutman,
Underwater  Systems Command, Groton Sub Base.  In that correspondence
security concerns  resulting from knowledge from the plaintiff’s family
(then deceased Father) were included.  This resulted in written
accusations in many printed accusations both published and unpublished
to Senators Kennedy and Moynihan and Coast Guard Command concerning the
validity of an order.
 While on the Schimonchi the plaintiff passed to Mr. Koresh copies of a
pamphlet which explained the new geometry of Pavlita, a source of keen
interest to intelligence committees.  (It was heretofore not
understood).
This meeting with Mr. Koresh was subsequent to my being interrogated on
Groton Sub base by naval intelligence concerning the work of the
Taiwanese mathematician, C.W. Cho, Czech Robert Pavlita, and the Soviet
Astrophysicist Niccoli Kosyrev.  This interrogation was suddenly
interrupted by a phone call.  I was driven out in the middle of nowhere
where I was assaulted my unknown parties, who I first thought ONI, now
more Treasury.  However, by my complaint, and the help of the office of
the Honorable Senator Edward Kennedy, who had prior helped with making
contact with proper entities within the Navy, a copy of an order from
Office of Naval Intelligence Command, Washington, the Commander of the
base, Captain Ransom, was ordered to explain to both the Senator and
myself the actions of the Navy on that occasion.  The Navy never
responded to the order (I still have reference number).  The head of the
Senator's Boston office found this highly unusual indicating that either
the order was ignored or countermanded.
By coincidence Mr. Koresh (though he was self-educated) had the wits to
understand many of the basics and related it to passages in the Bible in
which he had a keen interest.  The validity of the passages relationship
is not as important as Mr. Koresh's ability to make a case for this.  It
appears that parties inside of government wanted very much to curtail
public understanding of this.  A small example of the implications, Your
Honor, might here help:
 Pavlita was able to demonstrate in test after test certain anomalies of
physics.  All this was primarily based on a relationship between form,
shape, and energy.  Prior to Pavlita, another Czech obtained a patent on
a specific pyramid shape.  It sharpened razor blades.  He did not know
how it worked.  He did not need to.  Pavlita clearly demonstrated that
he did know how it worked, but would not give out the secret.  It went
behind the Iron Curtain when the Soviet tanks rolled into Prague.
Another man used a specific shape to help preserve milk.  My
understanding is that he too did not understand how it worked, but
patented instead a method of folding milk cartons into this shape.  The
point is that he used this to take over the entire milk distribution
system of Europe and has become a multi billionaire.  Your Honor, this
was just one 

Re: [CTRL] Tales of the Underclass

1999-11-15 Thread Tatman, Robert

 -Caveat Lector-

Here are some resources on worker ownership and cooperatives:

http://www.teltec.on.ca/coopsum.html Co-operatives in a nutshell
http://www.disgruntled.com/workown1297.html Worker owned temp services
http://www.cooperative.org/ The Co-Op Home Page - National Cooperative
Business Association
http://www.wisc.edu:/uwcc/ University of Wisconsin Center for Cooperatives
http://www.coop.org/ International Cooperative Alliance
http://csf.colorado.edu/co-op/ Cooperatives and Nonprofits on the Internet
http://www.mondragon.mcc.es/ Mondragón Corporación Cooperativa
http://www.geonewsletter.org/ Grassroot Economic Organizing Newsletter

 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Stokes [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 11:26 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: [CTRL] Tales of the Underclass

  -Caveat Lector-

 In a message dated 99-11-13 18:36:38 EST, nessie writes:

 
  I belong to a worker owned collective business, Bound Together Anarchist
  Collective Book Store, 1369 Haight St, SF CA. We're twenty four years old
  and doing just fine, thank you. We belong to  a federation of such places
  called the Network of Bay Area Worker Collectives, NoBAWC (pronounced
 "no-boss"). The smallest has six members and the largest has over a
 hundred.
 We're all
  doing just fine without bosses, thank you.

  Then there's Mondragon, a multi-billion dollar, multi-national
 conglomerate
  based in northern Spain, and comprised of enterprises ranging from string
  of gas stations, drugstores and department stores to agriculture,
 broadcasting and
  manufacturing. It is owned by the workers. It is run by the workers.
  They're doing just fine without bosses, too, thank you

  State owned "collectives," incidentally, are not collectives. They are
  cynically misnomered slave plantations. Screw the state. It sucks on our
 neck. 

 Interesting!  Are there any books that explain how to get a business
 started
 that is owned by the workers.  For the last seven years I have worked for
 large corporate businesses ... Digital  Quantum ...  where there were
 more
 non-workers than workers and the non-workers get paid twice or more what
 us
 workers get paid even though we do most of the work.  They mostly go to
 off-site meetings and make changes that make our work harder.  I have also
 noticed that when a worker makes a suggestion to make the products better,
 or
 to improve reliability ... it is shot-down, then later suggested by an
 "Engineer."  Big Business is corrupt.  Managers (they manage to take money
 we
 earn) hire their family members and put them at a higher rate of pay than
 workers even though they do not own the business.  Managers also promote
 females who go to bed with them, promote ass-kissing guys who have only
 been
 with the company a few short months etc.  Hiring practices and promotions
 are
 not based on loyalty or productivity.

 I had my own business at one time, but the interference of government cost
 too much time, bookkeeping, social security payments, quarterly payments
 ...
 city, county, state and federal rules and regulations ~ you need a lawyer
 to
 keep up with everything.  If you miss one of these "laws" then you owe at
 least one month's pay in fines, filing fees, interest etc.

 Does your organization "No Boss" have a website?

 Regards,
 Bob Stokes



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[CTRL] Gates at 11:11 at 11am

1999-11-15 Thread earthman

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Now there's a coincidence

Peter

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[CTRL] Fighting Illinie

1999-11-15 Thread Alamaine Ratliff

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From TheChicagoTribune

{{Begin}}
Decatur debate turns into 3-ring act
Talks fail to end dispute as dueling rallies take place
 Rev. Jesse Jackson (center) led protesters in Decatur on Sunday, including
U.S. Rep. Bobby Rush, to reaffirm support for the students who were expelled
from school. (Tribune photo by Phil Greer)
By Flynn McRoberts
Tribune Staff Writer
November 15, 1999

Balkanized by the controversy over seven students expelled for fighting, this
factory town became a stage Sunday for everything from evocations of civil
rights heroes to hate-spewing Klansmen.

A cheering crowd of more than 2,000 came to hear Rev. Jesse Jackson and support
the African-American students. Blocks away, a subdued procession of about 250
residents marched to show solidarity with local school officials. And across
town, 100 people gathered with hooded Klansmen to vent their resentment at
Jackson for entering the fray.

But away from the sound and fury, quiet negotiations continued Sunday as the
state schools chief returned to Decatur for separate talks with Jackson and the
local school board president. After weeks of negotiations between Jackson's
Rainbow/PUSH Coalition and school officials, the two sides still are haggling
over how to punish the young men.

Publicly, however, Jackson rejected the local board's request for a cooling-off
period while both sides consider a compromise being brokered by State Schools
Supt. Glenn "Max" McGee.

"They've been cooled off since Sept. 17," Jackson told a crowd of thousands
gathered in the MacArthur High School parking lot, referring to the date of the
football game during which the seven youths engaged in a bleacher-clearing
brawl. "Now it's time to turn the heat up."

To that end, Jackson urged state and federal prosecutors to subpoena local
school officials who, without naming names, have released information on the
students' attendance records and, in some cases, academic standing. Referring
to felony mob action charges filed last week against the young men by local
prosecutors, Jackson warned: "For those who would send them to jail--they might
be your (jail) mate."

For her part, school board President Jackie Goetter eschewed incendiary
rhetoric for the day. Goetter said she and the district's top lawyer met with
McGee on Sunday "just to continue the discussion" on a 10-point plan offered by
McGee and Jackson. Under that proposal, the students would be eligible to
return to regular classes in January if they "maintained a high standard of
conduct, attendance, completion of homework and a C average in the Alternative
Placement Program."

Jackson again accused the local school board of rebuffing McGee, who left
Decatur late Sunday saying he had done all he could.

Goetter would not elaborate on discussions with McGee.

The board met in special session early last week, cutting the original
expulsions from two years to one year and agreeing to let the students earn
credit while attending alternative school.

Since then, the controversy has dissipated little, and it reached a new peak
Sunday with the three separate marches or demonstrations.

For the second Sunday in a row, Jackson led a march through the city streets.
The gathering Sunday, which included U.S. Rep. Bobby Rush (D-Ill.) as well as
other politicians and the students, stretched about 12 blocks as it wended its
way from Decatur's civic center to MacArthur High School.

There were women in Malcolm X T-shirts, communists waving red flags of
revolution and parents hoisting hand-scrawled signs that read, "Leave No
Children Behind." Many came from Chicago and elsewhere to hear the rousing
speech of Jackson, and they were not disappointed.

Recalling the efforts of Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. during the 1950s and '60s,
Jackson told the crowd, "If Dr. King could do it in Birmingham, we can do it in
Decatur."

Jackson called for prayer vigils at each of the district's three high schools,
which were closed for all but a half-day last week due to safety concerns but
are scheduled to be open Monday morning. If the issue is not resolved by Monday
night, Jackson repeated his vow to take the students back to school "and face
jail to save our children."

The Chicago civil rights leader has made that promise before during his
personal showdown with the board, which is nearing its third week. But Jackson
seemed to turn up the volume by insisting that if Monday night doesn't bring
resolution, "on Tuesday morning, we're going to cross the line."

Rush vowed to push for congressional hearings on zero-tolerance policies on
school violence, which are at the center of the dispute.

As for the young men, Jackson said they had "made a grievous error; they fought
each other." But he again noted that there were "no guns, no bullets, no
knives, no blood" involved -- "less violence than a hockey match."

Those who take a much more serious view of the scene -- in which there were no
major injuries, but women and children are seen 

Re: [CTRL] C-Span on IRS

1999-11-15 Thread pmeares

 -Caveat Lector-

earthman wrote:

 From another list

 this was true - I was there yesterday!  However, Senator Orrin Hatch tried
 to bribe one of the speakers (Bill Benson) not to speak (yes, there was a
 witness!).  Also, C-SPAN must have been threatened because they didn't show
 up.  It was taped and you can read all about it at
 http://www.givemeliberty.org


Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 18:07:49 -0600
From: Larry Becraft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Greg Samples [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2nd Update on Income tax summit and C-Span

To whom it may concern,

  This last week, the Net was buzzing with information about Bob Schulz's "IRS
Showdown II" scheduled for the National Press Club in DC on November 13, 1999.
Lots of people expected C-Span to cover this meeting like it did the previous
one, but that did not happen. You have inquired regarding the lack of coverage
by C-Span and I offer the following. Because so many others have also inquired,
please excuse this "form" response which I am sending to everyone.

  On July 1and 2, 1999, Bob Schulz from New York sponsored his first "IRS
Showdown" in DC. Speakers at this first meeting were Bill Benson (author of
"The Law That Never Was" which addresses the question of the non-ratification of the
16th Amendment), Bill Conklin, Joe Banister (former IRS Special Agent), Devvy Kidd
and myself. Fortunately on July 2, C-Span broadcast the second day of that meeting
nationwide and untold numbers of Americans caught it. Lots of interest in that
first Showdown was generated as a consequence. Many contacted C-Span and
ordered video tapes of the seminar and C-Span has informed Bob Schulz that it sold
more videos of that meeting than any other program it has ever broadcast.

  Bob planned his second Showdown for this last weekend, November 13, because of
the apparent success of the first. Of the two meeting rooms on the 13th floor of
the Press Club Building in DC, Bob rented the bigger "special events" meeting
room; the Press Club has a built-in broadcast studio above this particular
meeting room, thus making coverage of a meeting there extremely easy. Thereafter,
Bob contacted C-Span inquiring whether it would cover this second meeting like
it did the first, and was informed that there was a great likelihood that it
would, reserving the possibility of cancellation in the event of some other
"more interesting meetings or events." Of course, C-Span does not let those
conducting events know about whether it will broadcast a meeting until
24 hours before.

  When Bob made the arrangements for this second meeting, he was also lining
up the speakers. He asked Bill Benson to again attend as well as former IRS
Special Agent Joe Banister. Joe anticipated that he could get another retired IRS
revenue agent to also attend and this other agent has views similar to those of Joe.
Bob contacted Dave Bosset, an accountant and employer from Florida who recently
received a "refund" check from the IRS repaying taxes withheld from his
employees, and invited him to attend. As for me, I told Bob that whether
I could attend depended upon a lack of other obligations for that weekend.

  Last Thursday, I called Bob and informed him that I could attend the second
Showdown. At that time, Bob told me that he expected C-Span to provide TV
coverage of the event and he wanted us to spread the word. I did, and you read one
of the announcements distributed by me or some other of the interested parties.
Bill Benson contacted many with the same message and everyone anticipated that
C-Span would televise that meeting on Saturday, Nov. 13.

  On Friday, Nov. 12, most of the speakers arrived at the hotel at which we were
staying early; I did not get there until mid-night. Nobody had seen Bob Schulz
before we went to bed because he was driving down from New York. The next
morning, we all went to the Press Club in DC, and upon seeing Bob, he informed us
of his expectation of televised coverage by C-Span. However, he did mention that
he provided a notice of the meeting to all of the other press agencies located
in the Press Club Building on Friday, Nov. 12 and invited their attendance. Just
before he left New York on Friday, he received a call from a man named Joel Gray,
who claimed to be some type of federal government employee; Gray asked lots of
questions about the meeting and stated that he had an office in the Press Club
building and had received Bob's notice.

  About 30 minutes before the meeting was to start, everyone was
anticipating the arrival of the C-Span crew. But when showtime arrived and C-Span
failed to appear, we had to start the meeting anyway. It was a good, well attended
meeting and video tapes will be made available from several sources, one of whom
will be Devvy Kidd whose webpage is at:

  http://www.devvy.com/index.html

  A particular highlight of this meeting was the speech given by Dave Bosset.
Dave is an accountant by profession as well as a 

[CTRL] Roman Polanski: Worse than Clinton

1999-11-15 Thread Tenorlove

 -Caveat Lector-

http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/eo/19991115/en/19991115003.html

Twenty years later, Roman Polanski admits he did it.

 Back in 1978, the acclaimed director of Chinatown and Rosemary's Baby
fled the country amid allegations
 he raped a 13-year-old girl. He hasn't stepped foot in America since.
Now, the French-born director, who
 once said, "When you are 12, you no longer need the parents," is
finally accepting blame for the crime.

 "There was no plot against me. There was no setup. It was all my
fault. I think my wrongdoing was much
 greater than Bill Clinton's," the 66-year-old says in the December
issue of Esquire magazine.

 "There's a different justice for people who are public figures and
those who are not," he adds.

 Indeed.

 Polanski, then 42, took 13-year-old Samantha Geimer to Jack
Nicholson's house (he was out of town),
 loaded her up with Quaaludes and champagne and then had sex with her.
He pleaded guilty to one count
 of unlawful sexaual intercourse with a minor, but fled to Europe to
avoid a prison sentence of up to 50
 years.

 In his autobiography, the filmmaker said the judge who heard the case
reneged on a deal that would have
 had Polanski behind bars for just 90 days, and, faced with the
prospect of years in the slammer, he
 decided to take off.

 As recently as two years ago, lawyers represented Polanksi were
negotiating for the director's return to the
 States--with him serving no jail time--but nothing came of those
talks.

 About the same time, Geimer came forward to say she wouldn't mind if
Polanski came back to the U.S.

 "I really wish this would be over, that he would reach agreement with
courts, no longer be a fugitive," she
 said.
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[CTRL] Isis has spoken.

1999-11-15 Thread earthman

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Well guys..Um..hang in there  LOL

Peter

From: Ruth Trimble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ayers Rock and Warriors 11:11


Two significant events occured today to make me write this, Gaia was given
an influx of life energy, and the Veterans celebrated their wars.


Many of you have been excited about  the 11:11 portal today and the
significance of the energies that are coming now for Gaia's healing.
Springs (http://www.powersthatbe.com)and I tuned into Ayers Rock and
ascertained that Gaia was getting a large infusion of turquoise light
(this isthe Goddess color) and we saw this coming into the back of the
heart. We then saw that it turned into a fire orange/red
and infiltrated her whole body filling her with sensation and warmth.
We got the sense of the Aborigines standing like sentinels holding the
space for this event and for this influx of energy.
We saw that Gaia had been very shut down until today. She had had to do
this in order not to die of agony of the pain of the horrible things done
to her in this grotesque period of her life. She would have probably died
completely had she not shut herself down. The realization hit us both.
So we felt that this was energy to help her feel again, to have senses and
feeling once more. She is returning to full consciousness.  This should be
a celebration for all humanity on 11:11 one would think.


I live near to a major veterans cemetary in Hawaii.  At exactly 11:11 the
time of the special meditation for Gaia, guns boomed across the city, and
jets swarmed like insane kamikazi across the sky to commemorate the deaths
of the war veterans.


It was such a metaphor for the rape of the planet right there.
These military memories get revived into the grid of Earth
consciousness, memories of war dead and the battles they fought in.. on a
day when the Goddess of the planet is receiving her infusion of living
force. What irony!!**


How fitting that I should so clearly experience the type of
energies that have shut our Goddess down and almost destroyed her
body...the warrior energy.. at the very moment when I am becoming aware of
the tyranny she has endured. It is as if the warriors are putting on a
show for me to say.. "Here we are, stealing your sacred moment,
establishing our dominion and power of Gaia's body and atmosphere once
more; we have been working on controlling this planet for 5000 years and
we are now in control. See**!"


I have been reading the text my Jose Arguelles about the Mayan Factor and
how our ancestors in BC brought in changes to the calendar which threw
humanity out of synchronization with the Earth and her grid and cycles.
This was reinforced by energies from Saturn and Jupiter and the 12 month
calendar was adopted over the goddess moon calendar of 13 months.. to
which fortunately women's bodies are still attuned.( Ever wonder why women
are more intuitive and attuned to the earth? )
Women's cycles connect us to the harmonic forces of the planet's
surface and core and enable us to listen to the earth and harmonize with
the rythmns of the moon and sun.

But unfortunately, males do not feel that
force, thus they are more easily sucked into the warrior agenda based on
12/60. So male energy, out of sync with the planet it inhabits has put
humanity out of harmony with our Goddess Earth. Women and goddesses in
tune with nature and the planetary heart, had to be shut down, castrated,
hunted, defiled and outcast, and the sacred goddess number 13, the number
of transcendence, had to be made "unlucky" or taboo. Women who heard the
song of the earth were not easily controlled, so they were outlawed as
evil witches. Male, castrated priests ruled society without passion,
condemning all forms of harmony with the earth's heart. The joy and beauty
of  male/female sexual union which we know is a sacred communication
system between lovers, the heart of the planet and the other dimensions
even this was condemned and damned by the male priests, representatives of
the warriors.


Since for 5000 years humans have not heard their planet's voice clearly,
but heard too much the warrior voice, we can see too well the
grotesque outcomes that this error in attention has created. We are
killing Nature and our biosphere with it. We are commiting "planetocide!"

Well my friends, this little show of power today, this usurpation of
a major portal day of light for the endless replaying of warrior power and
saluting the defeated and dead ones, has seen its swan song. I am
declaring this way of thinking and behaving on Gaia OBSOLETE.  We will not
tolerate it any further on our lovely goddess body.


I, Isis, declare with full intent that from henceforth that warrior energy
has no more place on Gaia, or our Solar System. That from now on these
rituals that they enact are null and void, meaningless and powerless.
That from this time forward, Gaia reclaims her body and her atmosphere for
the use of her beloved species who live in harmony and attunement to her.
Warriors 

[CTRL] Non-lethal weapons reading; militarized Law-enforcement 2000

1999-11-15 Thread Dave
Title: 


Non-lethal weapons reading; militarized 
Law-enforcement 2000
Dave Hartleyhttp://www.Asheville-Computer.comhttp://www.ioa.com/~davehart

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[CTRL] Corrected URL federal search page RE: President given power to use experimental biologicals drugson Military?

1999-11-15 Thread Dave

 -Caveat Lector-

Apparently the URL I supplied was for a search which "expires".
I failed to follow bureaucratic URL procedure g posted here:
http://www.access.gpo.gov/getdoc.html

Here's a good SEARCH page for government docs:
http://www.access.gpo.gov/su_docs/aces/aaces002.html

This is the info to identify the document in question:

[Federal Register: October 5, 1999 (Volume 64, Number 192)]
[Rules and Regulations]
[Page 54179-54189]
From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov]
[DOCID:fr05oc99-33]
[[Page 54179]]
___
Part V
Department of Health and Human Services
__
Food and Drug Administration
__
21 CFR Parts 50 and 312
Human Drugs and Biologics; Determination That Informed Consent Is NOT
Feasible or Is Contrary to the Best Interests of Recipients; Revocation
of 1990 Interim Final Rule; Establishment of New Interim Final Rule

**
This is the URL constructed according to the instructions in  the
"getdoc.html" file above:
http://frwebgate4.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=1999_registerdoc
id=fr05oc99-33

holy shit- it WORKED !


Dave Hartley
http://www.Asheville-Computer.com
http://www.ioa.com/~davehart


-Original Message-
From: P A Scuan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 9:08 AM
To: Dave
Subject: Re: President given power to use experimental biologicals 
drugson Military?


Were you able to arrive at this URL?

[ http://frwebgate4.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=41429
7+79+0+0WAISaction=retrieve ]

URL is everything on the lines just above  [ between the brackets ]

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[CTRL] Ritalin

1999-11-15 Thread Linda Minor






Last year the American Medical Association conducted
a review "to deal with public and professional concern"
about the use of psychotropic drugs to control the minds
of children. [*] Not surprisingly, their conclusion was
that there is no problem -- children who display excessive
energy and who don't pay enough attention to adults should
be dosed with potentially harmful drugs that are intended
to overcome their free wills, bringing them under control.

Below is the response of Peter Breggin, M.D., to the AMA,
presented in a letter that was published in the Journal of
the American Medical Association. Here are some highlights:

"While admitting there are no proven long-term benefits, the
AMA report supports the long-term use of the drug [Ritalin]."

"The council report specifically denies that methylphenidate
[Ritalin] is used for behavioral control but the diagnostic
items are entirely limited to behaviors. The drug is almost
always given to suppress behaviors that signal unmet needs
in the child or conflicts between the child and adults."

"Cookie-cutter diagnoses and assembly-line pharmacological
treatments do not do justice to the needs of our children.
On an individual level, America's children need much more
attention to their personal, family, and educational needs.
On a social level, they need improved schools and family
life and a value system that emphasizes their individuality
rather than drug-induced compliance and conformity."


=
Journal of the American Medical Association,
April 28, 1999 -- Volume 281, Number 16, pages 1490-1
=

To the Editor: By promoting the diagnosis of ADHD and the
use of methylphenidate [Ritalin] as a treatment, the AMA
Council on Scientific Affairs' report [1] does a disservice.
The council report fails to cite any of the dozens of
critical publications spanning decades. [2-6] It exaggerates
the benefits of methylphenidate, claiming short-term use
improves academic performance. Reviews instead conclude
that methylphenidate has no positive effects on learning
but can impair it. [3] While admitting there are no proven
long-term benefits, the AMA report supports the long-term
use of the drug. The report ignores methylphenidate's many
adverse effects. [3]

The council report calls ADHD a "neuropsychiatric disorder,"
but it is a diagnosis of exclusion made only in the absence
of any known medical or neurological cause. All the "symptoms"
are drawn from normal childhood behaviors, such as squirming
in a chair, acting bored, talking out of turn, and being
forgetful and inattentive. When these behaviors increase
in number or intensity, it really signals that the child
requires more individualized attention to unmet basic needs,
such as a more engaging and individualized educational
environment, more rational or consistent discipline in the
home or school, unconditional love, or security and safety.
An increase in ADHD-like behaviors almost always indicates
that we, as adults, are not giving the child much-needed
attention.

The council report specifically denies that methylphenidate
is used for behavioral control but the diagnostic items are
entirely limited to behaviors. The drug is almost always
given to suppress behaviors that signal unmet needs in the
child or conflicts between the child and adults.

The council report minimizes how widely methylphenidate
is being used and abused. By contrast, the International
Narcotics Control Board [5] and the Drug Enforcement
Administration [4] warn that 90% of the worlds
methylphenidate is consumed in the United States, that
10% to 12% of boys aged 6 to 14 years are being diagnosed
and given methylphenidate, that more high school seniors
are abusing the drug than receiving it through physicians,
and that methylphenidate is one of the nation's most
commonly stolen and diverted substances.

Cookie-cutter diagnoses and assembly-line pharmacological
treatments do not do justice to the needs of our children.
On an individual level, America's children need much more
attention to their personal, family, and educational needs.
On a social level, they need improved schools and family
life and a value system that emphasizes their individuality
rather than drug-induced compliance and conformity.

Peter R. Breggin, MD
Bethesda, Md

1. Goldman LS, Genel M, Bezman RJ, Slanetz PJ, for the
Council on Scientific Affairs, American Medical Association,
Diagnosis and treatment of attention-deficit/hyperactivity
disorder in children and adolescents. JAMA. 1998;279:1100-1107.
2. Armstrong T. The Myth of the ADHD Child. New York, NY:
Dutton; 1995.
3. Breggin PR. Talking Back to Ritalin. Monroe, Me: Common
Courage Press; 1998.
4. Drug Enforcement Administration. Methylphenidate: A
Background Paper. Washington, DC: Drug Enforcement
Administration, US Dept of Justice; 1995.
5. International Narcotics Control Board, INCB Sees
Continuing Risk in 

Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas

1999-11-15 Thread JAH Publications



Dear Terry Cox,

Not only is Santa (anagram for Satan) Claus not 
christian, Christ stated in The Bible that he HATES it:-


X-MASS - YULETIDE 
A PAGAN FESTIVAL
(which is actually condemned by Christ)

CHRIST'S OPINION of SANTA CLAUS and YULETIDE, as expressed 
by HIS ANGEL, to HIS APOSTLE JOHN, in THE APOCALYPSE, Chapter 
2.
 
  
  Xmas has absolutely nothing to do with God. It was 
  originally called Yuletide, which is a pagan festival from the Babylonian 
  Mystery religion of SUN worship. The Babylonians were merchants (they 
  were the originators of the "Market-system" which is condemned by God) and 
  they used Yuletide to sell their merchandise because, like today, it 
  made them lots of money. Then in the first century A.D. Simon (the 
  Sorcerer) Pater (NOT Peter) stole the name christian, 
  mixed it with the Babylonian Mystery religion and formed a new 
  religion called christianity, that teaches the opposite of what Christ 
  taught, and has SUNdays as its sabbath days, due to its SUN-god 
  worshipping origins (Galatians 1:6-9; 2:4). Simon Pater 
  NOT Simon Peter (Cephas) started the fake religion called 
  "christianity" (Acts 8:9-25). Christ's TRUE followers or disciples 
  called themselves "Followers of The Way" or "Those True to The 
  Covenant" (Nazrim ha-Brit), NOT christians.SUNday is 
  the FIRST day of the week, NOT the Sabbath which is the 
  SEVENTH day; on which God rested. This "so-called" christianity 
  perverted the teachings of Christ and incorporated their pagan rituals, in 
  their temples, which have as their focal point a "Tower of Babel" (from which 
  the word Babylon is derived) in which were babbling-bells. This is directly 
  opposed to the true teaching of Christ who says that YOU must 
  NOT go to church (Matthew 6:5-6 where synagogue means all 
  churches). They also hijacked the virgin-birth and moved it from April to 
  December 25th to coincide with their own Yuletide festival, which 
  Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible, in 
  Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6, 15, where the Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ 
  hates, are the followers of Santa (Ni)-Claus, who celebrate Yuletide (and 
  Easter [Ishtar] a god of fertility - eggs are the symbol of fertility 
  not crucifixion).
  Verse 6: But this thou hast (in thy favour), that thou hatest 
  the deeds of the Nicolaitanes which I (Christ) ALSO HATE.Verse 
  15: So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes (the 
  followers of St.Nicholas - Santa Claus), which thing I 
  (Christ) HATE.The Nicolaitans celebrate Yule-tide 
  (Christmas now) and Santa Claus (st. Nicholas) and decorate trees with silver, 
  which thing Christ HATES, because it is Satanic and NOT from God 
  or Christ, as he makes perfectly clear in the verses 
  above.SANTA CLAUS WEARS 
  SCARLET which Christ has told us is SATAN'S COLOUR (see 
  Revelations chapter 12 verses 3+9 - the great RED dragon - SATAN).
  SANTA 
  CLAUS is an anagram for SATAN.SATAN LUCAS/LUCIFER - THE 
  DEVIL.There is nothing Godly about 
  Christmas and Christ HATES it; so how can christians 
  celebrate it? Who taught them to do so? Certianly NOT Christ or 
  his apostles.A true Christian would be one who follows Christ's Way, 
  does what He did, loves what He loved and hates what he hates - he would not 
  imagine or theorize on what Christ would like or not like.The 
  "Virgin-birth" was in Spring at the time of birth and The Passover, when 
  "lambs" were being born. It was NOT in December, the seasonal time of 
  death.The virgin-birth was actually in April, with new-born lambs in 
  the fields, just like the Second Coming.The fact that the three 
  kings came to pay homage, and brought gifts of great wealth, was used by Satan 
  to give, to those who perverted the teaching, the idea to continue and even 
  increase the sales of their merchandise (a great marketing-exercise for them). 
  So the virgin-birth was hijacked and corrupted into a time to make lots of 
  money, using the ultimate in "high-pressure sales techniques", which was to 
  falsely use God's Son's name, in order to embarass people, who couldn't 
  afford to buy gifts, to go into debt or steal in order to buy their 
  merchandise. By doing this the rich merchants ruin the lives of the poor, 
  driving them further into debt and poverty or crime, whilst making themselves 
  richer and richer. It is WRONG and EVIL from every angle. The 
  original gifts were from rich kings to the "supposedly" poor - from the rich 
  to the Son of God. There is absolutely NO Biblical precedent or 
  teaching that supports giving gifts to human children. The merchants have 
  turned it all backwards and made it the opposite, where the poor give money to 
  the rich. They have done this because it and they are Satanically inspired. 
  Satan is a Hebrew word that means "the Opposer" - someone who does and says 
  the OPPOSITE of what God says, telling and teaching others to do the 
  

[CTRL] The Manson Of The Year Refused Law License

1999-11-15 Thread William Shannon

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Law candidates face question of character

November 15, 1999

BY ABDON PALLASCH STAFF REPORTER


When the state Supreme Court rejected white supremacist Matt Hale for a law
license on Friday, he joined a club of esteemed and not-so-esteemed
candidates deemed lacking the "good moral character and general fitness to
practice law."


They range from revered Loyola University law Professor George Anastaplo--who
refused to say whether he was a Communist--to perennial losing political
candidate Anthony Martin-Trigona, to unrepentant crooks, liars and cheats.


All were smart enough to pass law school and the bar exam. But the courts
have ruled that brains are not enough--a lawyer must have heart.


"Not only do we handle other people's money, but we handle their deepest
secrets and confidences," said William Martin, an Oak Park attorney who
defends would-be lawyers whose character is challenged. "The major
requirement of being a good lawyer is that he be of good character, not a
brilliant strategist."


But how do you measure character? The subjectiveness of the process drives
critics crazy. Some felons convince the court they are rehabilitated. Some
non-felons, such as Hale, say they are punished for their beliefs.


Each September, students enter the state's nine law schools and are handed a
15-page application for one of five panels of lawyers around the state that
serve as a Character and Fitness Committee. Jaws drop as students see the
questions. They must list not just any arrests but also all parking tickets
they ever received--even if they paid them on time.


"Parking tickets are obligations--there are cases where the court has taken
those seriously," said attorney Richard Prendergast, president of the
Illinois Board of Admissions to the Bar, which oversees the committee.


In 1985, the state Supreme Court ruled that one applicant "has shown a total
disregard for the law by amassing some 200 to 400 parking tickets over a
short period of time" and couldn't be a lawyer, even though he paid every one.


Even if a student had an underage drinking record expunged, it has to be
listed. If the student doesn't and the court later finds out, that person can
be disbarred. Highland Park attorney W. Jason Mitan was disbarred in 1979
largely because he failed to disclose on his application a felony conviction,
three arrests, a name change, a marriage and a divorce.


Critics say the character and fitness process is little more than a criminal
background check. In Cook County, where the vast majority of the state's
lawyers are from, 90 percent of applicants to practice law are notified via
mail that they have passed the character and fitness screening once their
criminal background checks clear.


Only the 10 percent whose applications are flagged because of incidents they
listed on their applications, or incidents they failed to list on their
applications, are called to an interview with a committee member, who almost
always approves them.


But Downstate, where lawyers may have a little more time, committee members
like to meet each applicant, as they did with Hale, who is from East Peoria.
The interview usually is cordial. Of 3,214 people who applied for admission
to the Illinois bar last year, only five were rejected, Prendergast said.


If a committee member rejects an applicant, that person can appeal to a
three-member panel, then to the full committee, then to the Supreme Court.


Martin-Trigona objected at one committee meeting when staffers retrieved a
document from his Selective Service file labeling him unfit for military
service because of a "moderately severe character defect manifested by
well-documented ideation with a paranoid flavor and a grandiose character."


Martin-Trigona called committee members "scum." He has since moved to Florida
and unsuccessfully sought public office there.


In Hale's case, he was rejected at each level of appeal and now will argue to
the U.S. Supreme Court that he is being denied a license because of his
racist beliefs. The committee argues it was Hale's actions--and his failure
to disclose a minor conviction--that warranted his rejection.


Hale founded the World Church of the Creator. His followers included Benjamin
Smith, a North Shore man who went on a two-state rampage in July, shooting
Jews, blacks and Asians. Smith killed two people, including former
Northwestern University basketball coach Ricky Byrdsong, before killing
himself.


The committee said Hale "fully exploited Smith's conduct. . . . Hale's claim
that he does not advocate violence is simply not credible."


The Supreme Court lists 13 potential red flags that could cost an applicant
admission, among them unlawful conduct, academic misconduct, making false
statements or omissions, neglect of financial responsibilities and "evidence
of conduct indicating instability or impaired judgment."


Anastaplo was surprised in 1950 to be asked whether he was a Communist. He
refused on principal 

[CTRL] From: Christopher O'Brien, Mysterious Valley, CO: Interesting Fall Spike (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 17:05:41 -7
From: Christopher O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Researcher/Investigators
Subject: Interesting fall spike

colorparam0100,0100,0100/paramAfter months of no reported
unusual activity, the past week or so find us pondering the
following--listed in reverse timeline by day:

italicItalics /italic are suspected military activities,
boldBold /boldare unknowns.


Today-bolditalicFontFamilyparamArial Narrow/paramMon
November 15, 1999 at 4:15 PM, Sangre de Cristo Mtns, Saguache,
Chaffee Counties (O'Brien)/italic/bold

I observe the same (or similar) silent, wingless white plane as
reported 11-14-99 headed north-to-south up the Northern San Luis
Valley.  Plane appeared to be @ around 17,000 feet; directly
above the Sangres.  Before and after sighting of this plane,
commercial traffic higher up and further away were plainly heard;
this craft was completely silent.  Under 50X power binoculars, I
was unable to discern any wings, but the vertical stabilizer fin
was apparent--even with unaided vision.  The tail appeared to
extend further up the topside of the fuselage toward the front of
the craft than a normal Boeing or AirBus commercial jet.  Craft
headed at normal speed directly north-by-northwest up the Rio
Grande Valley Rift Fault--toward Leadville.


bolditalicSun November 14, 1999, 6:15 PM to 6:45 PM between
Howard and Penrose, CO, Fremont  Teller County (O'Brien)

/italic/boldThe same "bright pulsating light" apparently was
back (see previous day's report).  Mary Osmond called and
informed me "the light was back," but appeared to be further east
and lower in the sky.  It was only visible from her Bonanza
location for several minutes and I was unable to see the light
which was appraently blocked by the Sangre de Cristos.  Mary's
husband, Keith, (who was 20 miles north at the County Bounty
restaurant in Salida, CO, on Highway 50); along w/ 3 additional
witnesses, were able to observe the bright pulsating light for
around twenty minutes before it was joined by a second smaller
blinking white light.  The second light accompanied the larger
light slowly north toward "Denver."  The Osmonds called later to
relate Roger's Salida corroboration.


Sat November 13, 1999, around 3:00PM Del Norte, CO, Rio Grande
County (O'Brien)

Keith C. called to ask if "anything unusual has been going on?"
He nonchalantly mentioned watching a " . . . table rise 2' off
the living room floor for several seconds . . ." He also
mentioned seeing "strange shadows going across the wall."
italic[the witness seemed sincere and I have no reason to
disbelieve this report in light of the day's activities--tmv]

boldSAME DAY

3:00 PM

/italic/boldA large silent unmarked white plane was reported
"gliding" south-to-north up the Northern San Luis Valley.
"There was something weird about it, I should have heard
something." the witness remarked.  " . . . It was really
low--maybe 3 thousand feet above the valley floor and I couldn't
see any wings, just the vertical tail . . ."

bolditalic3:15 PM

/italic/boldI was returning from Colorado Springs on Highway
285, near Johnson's Village when I too, observed an usual-looking
silent white craft that did not appear to have wings.  It was
headed north by northwest, up the upper Arkansas River Valley
headed toward Antero Reservoir in South Park.  I estimated its
altitude at 2500- 3000 feet.  I was intrigued enough to pull over
and get out of the car to observe it w/ binoculars.  I thought it
was strange and was greeted by the additional report on my
answering machine as I arrived home at 4:30.  [Was it the same
craft as earlier and later sightings?--tmv]

bolditalicSAME NIGHT

6:15 PM-7:30PM Over Salida/Howard Area, Chaffee and Fremont
Counties (O'Brien)

/italic/boldBonanza, CO residents Mary and Roger Osmond
reported watching a very bright pulsating light hovering just
south of Salida, CO.  They described it as being like a
"brilliant strobe light, pulsing red, white and blue."  The
Osmonds contacted a neighbor who also observed the object(s).
Mary estimated the large light's size as 2 to 3X as bright as
Venus. They also observed the light "going up and down,"  when it
was joined by "three smaller blinking white lights that almost
looked like satellites" appeared to " . . . mill around the
larger light" before they accompanied the larger light slowly off
to the NE at around 7:15.  The smaller lights "seemed to be
further away" [to the east] than the larger light.


italicSun November 7, 1999 10:40 AM to 10:55 AM San Luis Valley
(O'Brien)

/italicEight large 4 engine jets flew over the SLV west-to-east
@ about 20,000 feet.  Four planes appeared to break formation
just east of Blanca Pk and appeared to head NE.  Remaining 4 jets
continued directly east. [I have never seen, nor had a report of
an eight, 4-engine jet formation overflying the San Luis
Valley--tmv]


italicSat October 30, 1999 4:15 PM, Between Moffat and 

Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas

1999-11-15 Thread Kris Millegan

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In a message dated 11/15/99 4:14:56 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible 

Howdy sir, please discontinue your religious diatribes. Excessive personal
beliefs are not research, but a matter of faith.

In MHO, Jesus aka The Christ speech is not recorded in Revalations, anyway

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Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas

1999-11-15 Thread Rodrigo Cesar Banhara

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I liked it very much. Excellent text! Thanks!

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 22:56:51 -,  JAH Publications wrote:

CHRIST'S OPINION of SANTA CLAUS and YULETIDE, as expressed by HIS ANGEL, to HIS 
APOSTLE JOHN, in THE APOCALYPSE, Chapter 2.

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Re: [CTRL] From: Christopher O'Brien, Mysterious Valley, CO: Inte...

1999-11-15 Thread C Davis

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Ok I dont know what this white craft is, but today, this morning I saw a
wingless silent air craft not too high up flying northeast to south. This was
a bout 9:30am central time. Oh yeah... I'm in central Texas.

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[CTRL] Documents Pinpoint Federal Audits (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Documents Pinpoint Federal Audits
.c The Associated Press
By LARRY MARGASAK and JOHN SOLOMON
Associated Press Writers

WASHINGTON (AP) - Members of Congress and the White House have
triggered audits of hundreds of tax-exempt groups this decade by
lodging complaints with the Internal Revenue Service against
their political foes.

The referrals range from citizen letters and newspaper articles
to personal demands for investigations, according to documents
reviewed by The Associated Press.

The White House once referred a constituent complaint about a
group that had suggested presidential lawyer Vincent Foster had
been murdered. Democratic lawmakers sought investigations of
conservatives ranging from the Heritage Foundation to the Rev.
Jerry Falwell.

And the Republican chairman of the House committee that writes
tax laws sought an audit of a Buddhist temple in California after
it was host for a Democratic fund-raiser featuring Vice President
Al Gore.

``It is my assumption that the Internal Revenue Service has
commenced, or will soon commence, an investigation into these
activities,'' House Ways and Means chairman Bill Archer wrote
Oct. 18, 1996, just three weeks before the presidential election.

The IRS says less than 1 percent of the 6,000 to 10,000 audits of
tax-exempt groups each year originate with complaints from
lawmakers or the White House.  The White House forwards about
1,300 constituent letters each year to the IRS ranging from
complaints of wrongdoing to obscure tax questions.

Agency officials say audit decisions are based solely on evidence
of wrongdoing, not on the political stature of the requesters or
any positions taken by the group involved. Federal law generally
prohibits tax-exempt groups from advocating the election or
defeat of political candidates.

``We read our mail and deal with the facts appropriately. To
ignore the mail is a dereliction of responsibility,'' said Marcus
Owens, the IRS official who oversees tax-exempt organizations.

Owens said any auditors making a politically motivated decision
``would lose their jobs and perhaps would wind up with deeper
legal problems.''

One lawmaker who sought an audit contends politics does play a
role.

Former Rep. David Skaggs, D-Colo., said he referred two
conservative organizations to the IRS in 1996 to achieve some
``evenhandedness'' after House Republicans began a ``very
concerted assault'' on liberal tax-exempt groups.

Skaggs referred the Heritage Foundation and Citizens Against
Government Waste to the tax agency based on a newspaper report.
It said the groups had sent out a mailing signed by GOP
presidential candidate Bob Dole and then had shared the list of
responders with Dole's campaign.

Within two months of Skaggs' request, both groups found
themselves undergoing costly audits that continue today.

``I believed then and I believe now that these were serious
possible violations and the appropriate step was to ask the
people with the expertise,'' Skaggs said. ``But it would be
incredible to suggest, and I won't, that there was not a
political dimension to these things. Of course there is.''

Critics say the system is ripe for abuse by politicians eager to
sic the IRS on enemies. The Landmark Legal Foundation, a
conservative legal group, sued the IRS to gain access to requests
for audits, and found that requests from Congress and the White
House go up in election years.

``The documents show there's a systematic effort by Congress and
the White House to intimidate and silence organizations with whom
they disagree,'' said Mark Levin, head of Landmark.

The documents also show IRS officials highlight the origins of
complaints.

The IRS computer tracking system in Washington clearly denotes
the name of the politician who referred the matter. And the
original letter from the White House or lawmaker is forwarded to
the case agent.

Lawmakers' requests are stamped ``expedite'' to remind IRS
officials they must reply in writing within 15 days. A few
requests reviewed by AP were marked with notations such as ``hot
politically'' or ``sensitive.''

A quarter century ago, President Nixon tried unsuccessfully to
force the IRS to ``go after our enemies and not go after our
friends.''

Today, the practice is more subtle. Members of Congress or the
White House usually attach to their referral a letter from a
like-minded constituent or a news article alleging wrongdoing.

The Clinton White House once referred a conservative organization
that relentlessly pursued the claim that Foster had not committed
suicide, as ruled by authorities, but was murdered.

Presidential aides also forwarded a complaint faxed to President
Clinton from a supporter in Beverly Hills, Calif., that the
Western Journalism Center was engaged in a ``vicious media
campaign to hurt you.''

The fax didn't allege any specific tax violations. It simply
noted the center was tax-exempt and an ``ad needs
investigation.'' The IRS audited the group, but eventually 

[CTRL] Chinese Intelligence Sponsored Clinton in 1985 (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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Washington Weekly

Chinese Intelligence Sponsored Clinton in 1985

Editorial
By MARVIN LEE

The FBI debriefing notes of suspected Chinese Spy John Huang
confirm that the ties between Chinese intelligence run deeper and
go further back than the 1996 presidential election that has been
the focus of campaign fundraising probes.

John Huang reveals that in 1985, China Resources Corp., a front
for Chinese intelligence, financed a Lippo-organized trip to Asia
by then-governor Bill Clinton.

Four years later, in 1989, John Huang together with Chinese agent
Maria Hsia and James Riady of Lippo, formed the Pacific
Leadership Council, and invited none other than then-Senator Al
Gore to the Hsi Lai temple headquarters in Taiwan in 1989. On
behalf of the Chinese government, Maria Hsia promised Al Gore
that she would persuade all her colleagues "in the future to play
a leader role in your presidential race."

It may be a mere coincidence, then, that the two in 1992 formed
the Clinton-Gore ticket that won in both the primaries and in the
general election with what we now know be heavy financial support
from Communist China. Support was funneled, in part, through
Lippo group where China Resources Corp. by then had bought an
interest.

When Al Gore entered the Hsi Lai temple of Los Angeles seven
years later to facilitate the laundry of donations in a
"fund-raiser," he must have known it came from the Chinese
government.

It was not until 1996, when Judicial Watch deposed John Huang for
its "Commercegate" lawsuit that the public learned about the role
of Chinese money in the Clinton campaign and in the Democrat
Party. The seeds for that role may have been sown already back in
the 1980s when the Chinese CIA spotted two up-and-coming American
politicians and decided to invest in their future.


Published in the Nov. 15, 1999 issue of The Washington Weekly.
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[CTRL] EgyptAir Crash A Criminal Act?

1999-11-15 Thread A.C. Szul Jr.

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On 11/15, acording to the AP, "the chairman of the National
Transportation Safety Board questioned ...whether his agency would
continue leading the investigation of the crash of EgyptAir Flight 990,
raising the specter that the plane was downed by a criminal act.

A "criminal act?" If so, by whom? The pilots or perhaps a passenger? No
distress call, so it [whatever "it" was] must have caught the pilot(s)
by surprise. [If one believes the gov't that claims no distress call was
recv'd.]

"...A federal law enforcement official told The Associated Press that
the question of whether to open a criminal investigation was raised
because 'one view is that a crew member is heard on the cockpit tape to
say something religious in nature'.''

"One view??" "Religious in nature??" Either it was "religious" or not.
Or is the gov't already attempting to confuse the "mystery" even more?

How good are intel agency translators? The language is Arabic,
considered difficult by some to translate. Was it more along the lines
of, "Forgive me God but I must plunge into the ocean to cleanse me of my
sins..." or "Oh my God, it's a bright light!!"

The story gets more interesting, and troubling, by the day. What gives?

-A

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Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus not christian

1999-11-15 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, Tatman, Robert wrote:
Actually, Thomas Nast, the great political cartoonist, created the familiar
fat, jolly Santa Claus in his red suit trimmed with ermine.

Based loosely on " 'Twas The Night Before Christmas" Santa Claus

But Nast's Santa was still a 'jolly old elf', e.g. only a few feet high.
It was Coca Cola's ad campaign that turned him into adult size...


June ;-)

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Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas

1999-11-15 Thread TenebrousT

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In a message dated 11/15/99 8:08:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible 

  Howdy sir, please discontinue your religious diatribes. Excessive personal
  beliefs are not research, but a matter of faith.

  In MHO, Jesus aka The Christ speech is not recorded in Revalations, anyway

  Om
  K

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  We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of seas of infinity,
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  voyage far.  The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have
hitherto harmed us little; but someday
  the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying
vistas of reality, and of our
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Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas

1999-11-15 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

On Mon, 15 Nov 1999, JAH Publications wrote:
Not only is Santa (anagram for Satan) Claus

You are an idiot.

"Santa" is Latin for "Saint".

As in "Santa Maria", "Santa Barbera", "Santiago" (San Diego)...

Are THOSE all anagrams for satan, too?


  Xmas has absolutely nothing to do with God. It was originally called
Yuletide, which is a pagan festival from the Babylonian Mystery religion
of SUN worship.

Actually, the holiday called "Yule" or "Jul" is a northern European pagan
festival, not Babylonian...

But the northern European pagans were not unique...at the time of
Christ, almost all cultures of the northern hemisphere had some sort of
festival at the time of the shortest day of the year


churches). They also hijacked the virgin-birth and moved it from April
to December 25th

Almost all Biblical scholars agree that Christ's birth would have been in
autumn, not spring...in which case, He conceivably was conceived on or
about December 25th...


Christ says he HATES, in the Holy Bible, in Apocalypse/Revelation 2:6,
15, where the Nicolaitanes, whose doctrine Christ hates, are the
followers of Santa (Ni)-Claus,

Considering that Saint Nicholas, from which we get the corruption "Santa
Claus", wasn't born until centuries after Christ's death, Christ could
hardly have preached against him...


  Verse 15: So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the
Nicolaitanes (the followers of St.Nicholas - Santa Claus), which thing I
(Christ) HATE.

Again, how could Christ have preached against Saint Nicholas (a Saint of
Christ's very own religion), when Saint Nicholas wouldn't even be born
for a couple of more centuries?


  SANTA CLAUS WEARS SCARLET

So does the Pope.

But actually, a scarlet suit is only Thomas Nast's invention of the
1880s...prior to his popular drawings, Santa Claus was usually depicted
as a Catholic Saint, in white robe and mitre, or as a 'jolly old elf' in
vaguely Germanic mountain dress, which was rarely red



  SANTA CLAUS is an anagram for SATAN.
  SATAN LUCAS/LUCIFER - THE DEVIL.

Then you are saying that all saints are satan, because 'santa' is Latin
for 'saint'...


  The "Virgin-birth" was in Spring at the time of birth and The
Passover, when "lambs" were being born.

Except lambs WEREN'T being born at that time.  We are told that the
shepherds were out in the fields with the flock, something they wouldn't
have done if it was lambing season.  The shepherds brought the herds back
to town in winter, and didn't bring them out to the fields until AFTER
lambing in the spring...

In the heat of summer, they moved the flocks up into the hills and
mountains, where it was cooler, the grass didn't dry up like it did down
in the fields, and the water was plentiful.  They moved the flocks back
down to the fields in autumn...

People didn't travel in spring, either, when the roads were muddy at best
from melting snow and spring rains -- that is, if the road wasn't washed
out completely...neither would they travel in summer, if they could avoid
it, due to the heat and lack of water...travel, especially with a
pregnant women, would have been undertaken in the autumn or winter...

Herod gave his subjects up to a year to report to their places of birth
for the census, so Joseph and Mary would have waited until the beginning
of autumn to travel to Bethlehem, when both the roads and the weather
were good, and would not have risked traveling in the spring, when the
weather and the roads were bad


It was NOT in December, the seasonal time of death.

And rebirth.

And indeed, is not THAT the message of Christ?


  The virgin-birth was actually in April, with new-born lambs in the
fields, just like the Second Coming.

Lambs were never born in the fields, where it would be too difficult to
protect them from predators, rather they were born when the flocks were
stabled in town...the flocks were only brought out to the fields well
AFTER lambing, when the lambs were strong enough to keep up with the
flock...

But the shepherds didn't KEEP the flocks in the fields in spring,
because the fields would have been more mud than grass...rather they just
used the fields to pass thru on their way to taking the flocks to the
hills...the only time shepherds 'slept with their flocks in the field'
was in autumn, when they had brought the flocks down from the hills, and
before they brought the flocks within the town gates for winter...


inspired. Satan is a Hebrew word that means "the Opposer"

I believe it means "the accuser", quite a different thing...


June ;-)

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Re: [CTRL] Santa Claus. Christ hates xmas

1999-11-15 Thread YnrChyldzWyld

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On Mon, 15 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, you have it from the man himself.  I have already warned you once of
this inappropriate posting to the CTRL list and asked you to refrain from
religious discussion that does not involve conspiracy theory, and have warned
you to not attempt proselytization on this list.  The list owner has stepped
in here to warn again, and I concur.

As do I.

Proselytizing is bad enough, but doubly so when it's composed of
diatribes consisting of negligible research and shoddy Biblical
scholarship.


June ;-)

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[CTRL] [2] The Emergence of Oligopoly

1999-11-15 Thread Kris Millegan

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an excerpt from:
The Emergence of Oligopoly
Alfred S. Eichner
The John Hopkins Press©1968
Baltimore  London
LCCN 74-7930
388 pps. – First Edition – Out-of-print
also available;
Greenwood Publishing Group(1978); ISBN: 0313205981
-
3 :: COMPETITION AND INSTABILITY


As in the case of other manufacturing industries, the years from the late
1870's until 1887 were a period of transition for sugar refining. Although
the industry still retained its basically competitive structure—indeed,
improvements in communications made it all the more competitive—it was now
marked by increasing instability. This instability was manifested in various
ways: in charges that extensive  frauds were being perpetrated against the
customs revenue of the United States, in efforts to change the tariff laws,
in complaints that certain firms were adulterating their sugar, and in
accusations that varying groups of refiners were  conspiring to drive other
groups out of business. The underlying of the instability, however, was the
failure of the demand for refined sugar to expand as rapidly as the potential
supply. Given the large fixed investment required in sugar refining, this
meant that all but the one or two leading firms found themselves no longer
able to cover their full costs, if an adequate return on invested capital is
included as part of these costs. Agreements to limit output or fix margins
brought, at most, only temporary relief. More drastic measures, it was
finally realized, were required.

The first public manifestation of trouble in the sugar refining industry was
a headline in the New York Tribune of September 6, 1878, hinting at extensive
corruption in the collection of sugar duties. " . . . It is no longer a
question of doubt," the accompanying article declared, "that for years there
has been a systematic movement among certain importers and refiners of sugar
to defraud the government. . . ." Estimating the losses in customs revenue at
$5 million, the Tribune added, "Many refiners and importers, who refused to
go into this combination, have been driven out of business and no honest man
can successfully compete with the combination."[1] The charges had a familiar
ring.

Still fresh in everyone's mind were the recent revelations with regard to the
so-called whiskey ring, which it was estimated had defrauded the government
of approximately $3 million annually during the four years it had
operated.[2] One of the scandals that were to give the Grant administration
its reputation for corruption, the "ring" was actually a pool, similar in its
purpose to the combinations that arose in other industries during the
immediate post-Civil War period to cushion the effects of a growing
disequilibrium between supply and demand.[3] The whiskey combination was, in
fact, different from other pools only in its ability to enlist the
co-operation of prominent government officials in its efforts to restrict
output and prevent the entry of new distillers into the industry. With the
connivance of Federal agents, certain favored distillers were able to avoid
paying the seventy-cents-a-gallon excise tax on at least 50 per cent of the
whiskey they produced, half the money saved going to the distillers
themselves and half to the leading Republican politicians who had organized
the scheme in each of the three major distilling centers, St. Louis, Chicago,
and Milwaukee.[4] Not only did the thirty-five-cents-a-gallon cost
disadvantage make it extremely difficult for any firm not a member of the
ring to survive in business, but also the federal revenue agents, with access
to the records of any distiller, were able to see to it that the production
quotas set by the pool were scrupulously honored. Yet the scheme originally
intended to fill party coffers gradually became more and more a scheme to
line the pockets of the prominent politicians involved, and it was this fact,
as well as the growing brazenness with which the ring's operations were
conducted, that eventually led to its undoing.[5] The resulting disclosures
were among the reasons that the Grant administration fell into such bad
repute during its final years.

Grant's Republican successor, Rutherford B. Hayes, in an effort to improve
his party's image following the disputed election victory of 1876, sought in
various ways to meet the public demand for political reform. One of his first
moves upon taking the oath of office was to appoint a presidential
commission, headed by John Jay, grandson of the illustrious Founding Father
and a well-known civil service reformer, to investigate the New York customs
house, long regarded as a hotbed of corruption. The Jay commission, while
condemning certain patronage practices and calling for various reforms, noted
in its report, delivered to the president late in 1877, that it had found
evidence of dishonesty on the part of only a few minor customs-house
officials. The Democrats, however, sensing that the extent of corruption was
much 

[CTRL] Fwd: CULLEN / DUNBLANE / PAEDOPHELIA etc.

1999-11-15 Thread Kris Millegan





Hi,

I thought you would like some more info. on Dunblane - QVS = Queen Victoria
School, Dunblane.

My informant has supplied sworn affidavits and much documentary evidence and
was in a position to know the FACTS. All the info. I have to date is held in
several locations in hard copy and electronic, no two holders are known to
each other and no one knows they are holding the material except me - they
are triggered to act under certain conditions.

So don't worry this whole thing is not going to go away until it is solved
and complying with New Labour's ethical policy on transparent and open
government

Regards,
Greg

 got all your Emails, thanks.  I have ALWAYS believed there has been a
cover up of a high level paedophile ring; another name Iain Lang who was the
chief commissioner of Her Majesties Commissioners at QVS 1985(?) to his
replacement as SCOT. secretary:  cant say too much here: answers to three
mysteries may unearth interesting truths:
 * what of the strange disappearance of 25 HMCs?
   find them and there are substantial answers.
 HMCs include PFs, Sherriffs, high society of Perthshire, business persons,
headteachers of other boarding schools in Scot and the Brigadier Bob Tweedy.I
do not think the former head teacher at the time realised what was
happening,(?). There is one or two leading names in the lit. I will send to
you (e.g.address of Chairman of HMCs in 1991)
 * What was the true nature of the strange death
 on the 11,12,1993 of a leading housemaster and close friend of T. Hamilton
at QVS, who cracked under pressure? (BP aged 42 and fit as fiddle? Fiddled
coronors report and many conflicting reports about how he died, fell off a
ladder? heart attack? See the cleaner who found him dead!!!)
 * Scottish HMI have strong connection to social life and partying at QVS
through..(no names here!)
 Thanks, will be intouch, just say what you need and I will give whatever I
can. 





got all your Emails, thanks.  I have ALWAYS believed there has been a cover up of a 
high level paedophile ring; another name Iain Lang who was the chief commissioner of 
Her Majesties Commissioners at QVS 1985(?) to his replacement as SCOT. secretary:  
cant say too much here: answers to three mysteries may unearth interesting truths:
* what of the strange disappearance of 25 HMCs?
  find them and there are substantial answers.
HMCs include PFs, Sherriffs, high society of Perthshire, business persons, 
headteachers of other boarding schools in Scot and the Brigadier Bob Tweedy.I do not 
think the former head teacher at the time realised what was happening,(?). There is 
one or two leading names in the lit. I will send to you (e.g.address of Chairman of 
HMCs in 1991)
* What was the true nature of the strange death
on the 11,12,1993 of a leading housemaster and close friend of T. Hamilton at QVS, who 
cracked under pressure? (BP aged 42 and fit as fiddle? Fiddled coronors report and 
many conflicting reports about how he died, fell off a ladder? heart attack? See the 
cleaner who found him dead!!!)
* Scottish HMI have strong connection to social life and partying at QVS through..(no 
names here!)
Thanks, will be intouch, just say what you need and I will give whatever I can.  G.



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[CTRL] Fwd: [FSNW-L] Poisoning millions for 50 years

1999-11-15 Thread Kris Millegan






Tuesday 16 November 1999 London-UK (i0311)

From: Parveez Syed
Shanti Communications, Global Media Monitoring Unit
One Stuart Road, Thornton Heath, Surrey CR7 8RA1 UK
Telephone: London-UK 0044-(0)7831-196693
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Copyright 1999 (c) Shanti Communications news agency. All rights
reserved. The following feature may not be republished or
redistributed, in whole or in part. Copying, storing, transfer,
redistribution, retransmission, publication and exploitation of
this information is hereby expressly forbidden without the prior
written consent of Shanti Communications UK. Section 326 of the
USA-FCC Communications Act; Title 17 USC Section 107; Article 19
of Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the First Amendment
US rights apply to all material, contents and ideas published and
broadcasted by Shanti Communications and Shanti RTV news agency.

Poisoning millions for 50 years (i0311)
by Parveez Syed (c) Shanti RTV news agency

London, England - Tuesday 16 November 1999 - US officials have
been knowingly poisoning their own soldiers, friends and
perceived foes for more than 50 years, according to a number of
uranium experts and documents shown to Shanti RTV news.

The most probable impact of depleted uranium (DU) "was known to
the US officials 50 years ago," one expert told Shanti RTV. The
major health concerns about DU relate to its chemical properties
as a heavy metal. "DU is a radioactive metal that is nearly twice
as dense as lead. DU coated bombs explode, throwing particles a
fine mist of DU and radioactive poison into the air that travels
for miles. "It has poisoned the air, water, food and soil for
billions of years. Inhaled or ingested particles are 1,000 times
worse than the damage caused by X-ray. The poison damages any
part of the body in which it is stored, including the lungs,
lymph nodes, liver, kidneys, muscle, bone and genes. There is a
disturbing rise in leukemia and stomach cancer in regions where
US-UK and Israeli forces have knowingly poisoned the evironment
and the millions who live and work in the contaminated region
and the environment. A deadly cocktail of western 'friendly
fires' over the past 50 years have killed and sickened millions
in the US, UK, Iraq, Kosovo, Yugoslavia, Puerto Rico, Egypt,
Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Sudan and Pakistan where ever
uranium-tipped shells and other weapons of mass destructions were
illegally fired or where human beings were exposed to the fatal
substances," the expert told Shanti Communications news agency.

"The official criminals from the top down, their fans or
appologists must compensate their victims. Those who live, work
or serve in the poisoned or contaminated regions should be
medically tested free of any charges, and compensated, by the
US-UK and Israeli officials who should be tried for war crimes
against humanity," the expert maintains.

US Maj Gen Chuck Wald confirmed that US Air Force A-10 'Warthog'
jets fired DU bullets in Yugoslavia in March and April 1999. The
poison, which was also fired by US jets and tanks during the 1991
Gulf assault, leaving a trail of contaminated dust and debris.
During that assault, the Pentagon didn't warn American and allies
soldiers about the health risks linked to the DU poison - a
situation the agency admitted in 1998 may have caused thousands
of unnecessary exposures. A US army training video on DU poisons
advises US soldiers to minimise the time they spend around blast
sites, maximise their distance from the wreckage, or wear
protective clothing, including gas masks, if they know they will
be exposed to its radioactive dust or debris for more than a few
minutes. The video warns that contaminated dust can be ingested
if gloves are not worn, and the dust is not washed off before
eating, drinking or using the latrine.

But over the years many Gulf assault veterans confirmed they
"have not seen the video nor read the pre-1998 manuals
containing vital information on the poisons. The US-UK and
Israeli officials have dodged their duty for 50 years. They
still ordering their soldiers to use du poisoned equipment and
vehicles. The officials still downplay the health risks of combat
exposure to DU poisoning, contradicting the findings of secret
reports compiled over a period of more than 50 years," the DU
expert told Shanti RTV news agency. "At best the most effective
clean-up operation can only reduce the known, fixed and visible
DU poison by 33 per cent. It is almost impossible to clean-up
the rest (67 per cent) of the detected poison".

Even the soldiers who used the pre-1995 M17 and M40 respiratory
protection masks reported leakage and other problems. "In 1991
the old mask did not fit well, slipping off at the chin area.
Any chin movement caused the need to reposition the mask
repeatedly. The chin slipped out of the mask and broke the seal
with the movement of the jaw and also when looking down to read
meters, look for contamination, perform decontamination," the

[CTRL] NewsHawk To Discuss 990 on Jeff Rense's Sightings/11.16.99, 9PM pst (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

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-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 19:49:42 +
From: NewsHawk Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: NewsHawk Discusses Fl 990 on Sightings/11.16.99, 9PM pst

11.15.99

NewsHawk Discusses Fl 990 on Sightings/11.16.99, 9 PM pst


John Quinn and Bob Anderson will discuss the latest blockbuster
information we've gotten regarding EgyptAir Fl. 990 with host
Jeff Rense Tuesday night, Nov. 16 at 9 PM pst. The program is
broadcast on the internet at -- http//www.sightings.com.

Don't miss it!


John Quinn


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Re: [CTRL] Isis has spoken.

1999-11-15 Thread Eagle 1

 -Caveat Lector-

Wait,  wasn't this one of Albert Gore's speeches recently?
(hmmm?  scratching my head)...  shouldn't it be "A.G. has spoken" ?
I'm sure I've heard the same words quoted right out of the mouth of the
Gaian himself.
Oh well...

:p

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From: earthman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 5:04 PM
Subject: [CTRL] Isis has spoken.


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 Well guys..Um..hang in there  LOL

 Peter

 From: Ruth Trimble [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Ayers Rock and Warriors 11:11
 
 
 Two significant events occured today to make me write this, Gaia was
given
 an influx of life energy, and the Veterans celebrated their wars.
 
 
 Many of you have been excited about  the 11:11 portal today and the
 significance of the energies that are coming now for Gaia's healing.
 Springs (http://www.powersthatbe.com)and I tuned into Ayers Rock and
 ascertained that Gaia was getting a large infusion of turquoise light
 (this isthe Goddess color) and we saw this coming into the back of the
 heart. We then saw that it turned into a fire orange/red
 and infiltrated her whole body filling her with sensation and warmth.
 We got the sense of the Aborigines standing like sentinels holding the
 space for this event and for this influx of energy.
 We saw that Gaia had been very shut down until today. She had had to do
 this in order not to die of agony of the pain of the horrible things done
 to her in this grotesque period of her life. She would have probably died
 completely had she not shut herself down. The realization hit us both.
 So we felt that this was energy to help her feel again, to have senses
and
 feeling once more. She is returning to full consciousness.  This should
be
 a celebration for all humanity on 11:11 one would think.
 
 
 I live near to a major veterans cemetary in Hawaii.  At exactly 11:11 the
 time of the special meditation for Gaia, guns boomed across the city, and
 jets swarmed like insane kamikazi across the sky to commemorate the
deaths
 of the war veterans.
 
 
 It was such a metaphor for the rape of the planet right there.
 These military memories get revived into the grid of Earth
 consciousness, memories of war dead and the battles they fought in.. on a
 day when the Goddess of the planet is receiving her infusion of living
 force. What irony!!**
 
 
 How fitting that I should so clearly experience the type of
 energies that have shut our Goddess down and almost destroyed her
 body...the warrior energy.. at the very moment when I am becoming aware
of
 the tyranny she has endured. It is as if the warriors are putting on a
 show for me to say.. "Here we are, stealing your sacred moment,
 establishing our dominion and power of Gaia's body and atmosphere once
 more; we have been working on controlling this planet for 5000 years and
 we are now in control. See**!"
 
 
 I have been reading the text my Jose Arguelles about the Mayan Factor and
 how our ancestors in BC brought in changes to the calendar which threw
 humanity out of synchronization with the Earth and her grid and cycles.
 This was reinforced by energies from Saturn and Jupiter and the 12 month
 calendar was adopted over the goddess moon calendar of 13 months.. to
 which fortunately women's bodies are still attuned.( Ever wonder why
women
 are more intuitive and attuned to the earth? )
 Women's cycles connect us to the harmonic forces of the planet's
 surface and core and enable us to listen to the earth and harmonize with
 the rythmns of the moon and sun.
 
 But unfortunately, males do not feel that
 force, thus they are more easily sucked into the warrior agenda based on
 12/60. So male energy, out of sync with the planet it inhabits has put
 humanity out of harmony with our Goddess Earth. Women and goddesses in
 tune with nature and the planetary heart, had to be shut down, castrated,
 hunted, defiled and outcast, and the sacred goddess number 13, the number
 of transcendence, had to be made "unlucky" or taboo. Women who heard the
 song of the earth were not easily controlled, so they were outlawed as
 evil witches. Male, castrated priests ruled society without passion,
 condemning all forms of harmony with the earth's heart. The joy and
beauty
 of  male/female sexual union which we know is a sacred communication
 system between lovers, the heart of the planet and the other dimensions
 even this was condemned and damned by the male priests, representatives
of
 the warriors.
 
 
 Since for 5000 years humans have not heard their planet's voice clearly,
 but heard too much the warrior voice, we can see too well the
 grotesque outcomes that this error in attention has created. We are
 killing Nature and our biosphere with it. We are commiting "planetocide!"
 
 Well my friends, this little show of power today, this usurpation of
 a major portal day of light for the endless replaying of warrior power
and
 saluting the defeated and dead ones, has seen its swan song. I am
 

Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread Eagle 1

 -Caveat Lector-

JAH,  ( excuse me for butting in here ...  )

When you start defending / contending for the true Word of God,  and not
self,  then I, for one,   might start listening.

" . . .  it was needful for me to write to you,  and exhort you that ye
should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the
saints."  Jude v 3
Not contend for ''self" or selfish reasons.

It says nothing about contending for "self", "me", "I's" or "my's".

eagle 1

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)


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 Sorry Tenorlove,

 I'm only defending myself and have attacked no-one. If they stop attacking
 me; I'll have no need to defend myself.

 Hope we're still friends.

 Peace be upon you,

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Re: [CTRL] OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect member (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread Eagle 1




Due to the length of your letter and the required 
answers... I will respond to you with a different color 
in between what you wrote in the below written letter... with what I feel 
is something to respond to.

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From: JAH Publications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Conspiracy Theory Research List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: OT?: Angel Scroll names Jesus as sect 
member (fwd)

 Dear Eagle 1,  Hello. I hope you 
are well and am very glad that you have found the dialogue amazing 
because I wouldn't like people to find it boring. 

Amazing in 
the fact that you are so egotistical in your responses to people in the CTRL 
group and other mail that you have thrown up in front of everyone everywhere you 
go, and that you try to come off as some rocket scientist of 
religion. 

I am also glad that you have quoted Ezekiel 34 
because it is one of my favourite pieces and I have, in fact, explained 
it in great detail on my website. 

OH, I've been to your website... 
and I've also noticed all the "my's" and "I's" you use there and in your 
correspondence. A bit narcisistic in presentation!

Perhaps you might like to take a look at it. 
Its URL address is:-  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/rabbis.htm 
 From what you have said about the so-called christian priests 


See, there ya go... taking what 
I've said out of context. I said the 'SHEPHERDS'. How you got 
Priests out of Shepherds? I have no clue. Also the chapter 
referenced, that you seem to be so fond of, uses the terminology 
repeatedly "shepherd". There is a difference between Shepherds and 
Priests, throughout the Bible. Here in this passage and other places 
or didn't you know?

giving Christianity a black eye, whom I also 
mention in the above explanation and about whom you and I are in total 
agreement, you should love the explanation. Please feel free to show it 
to your friends.

Again, what an ego 
maniac you are. No wonder people give you such a hard 
time.  Of course you are allowed to 
believe as you wish; everyone has their free-will. It is one of The Laws 
of this planet.

Live as you will by the 
"Laws of this planet". I will choose to live by the Laws of God. 
  What Revelation 11:9 states, and you have 
misquoted, is that 

ARGUE as you will, it was NOT 
misquoted... you have misinterpreted Revelation, obviously... 
and I'm sure you believe in the rapture too? 
Oh well, to each their own. 


The Ark of The Covenant will be (in the future) 
seen in the City called NEW Jerusalem that John saw COMING DOWN out of 
heaven (a UFO?)and of course it will be, when it comes down in the near 
future. After I have retrieved it from Tara, in fulfillment of Malachi 
4.

LOL Go ahead... 
make my day! LOL! no not just LOL, but 
ROTFL!
 
 http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Atrium/2012/noah.htm 
 As you have correctly stated: God is not stupid; for which I can 
personally vouch. 

Yes, exactly what I said. I am not 
speaking for God, as *you* seem to be... I was simply reiterating that He 
follows His own rules to the "T". He has NEVER left artifacts for man to 
brood over and discover, except for those that are so large,so huge, 
that man can only wonder about them, they cannot be possessed by any one 
hu-man at any given time in this earth age. 

But then you go on to say that He would not be so 
stupid as to leave The Ark on Earth. So, by so doing, you are actually 
telling God that you think He is stupid for doing so. And you think I'm 
trying to place myself above God? 

YES I do think you are attempting to put 
yourself above God. 

What then are you doing when you call Him 
stupid?

THAT is YOUR misinterpretation, again, of 
what I said, and what I meant. I never said He was stupid. YOU 
did. YOU misinterpret many things... Perhaps you should get your communication skills a bit 
more together before you go out and attempt to save the world. You've got 
to know how to 'listen' as well as to 'speak'.   The Ark HAS TO BE on Earth 

WHO says it HAS to be on the earth? WHERE 
do you get that idea? Only those who have their eyes poised as "to grasp" 
it and it's power would even begin to reason such an antic. NO... it 
does NOT have to be ON THE EARTH. And just for the doubt of it all, 
so what if it is? What does it prove? NOTHING. It proves 
absolutely nothing! The Ark of the Covenant was given to a space and time 
that God chose it to exist in. For HIS PURPOSES, not ours. 
That time is over, long long ago. Even as Paul has told us in his 
writings, those things of that time were a shadow of what is to 
come. CHRIST became all things that REPLACED the ark of the covenant. IF you have 
not figured that one out yet, you have a "long way to go, baby". 


because it is God's Witness against His 
People.

LOL 
A witness against His people? WHO and 
WHERE is it said that GOD NEEDS A WITNESS AGAINST HIS PEOPLE? 
LOL JAH, Really! Gimme a break. 


You want a witness 

[CTRL] Judge orders independent test of whether government fired on compound (fwd)

1999-11-15 Thread MICHAEL SPITZER

 -Caveat Lector-

From:

http://www.postnet.com/postnet/news/wires.nsf/National/A7EB89AC506CE35D8625682B001A4924?OpenDocument


Judge orders independent test of whether government fired on
compound

Nov. 15, 1999 | 11:29 p.m.

By Lee Hancock and David Jackson

The Dallas Morning News

Turning aside prolonged federal objections, a U.S. district judge
on Monday ordered independent field testing to help determine
whether government agents fired at the Branch Davidian compound
in the last hours of a 1993 siege.

U.S. District Judge Walter S. Smith Jr. of Waco issued a
three-page order late Monday saying that he was ``persuaded'' by
arguments from Branch Davidian lawyers and the office of special
counsel John Danforth that the tests are needed to resolve
whether flashes of light recorded by FBI infrared cameras came
from government gunfire.

FBI officials say none of their agents fired a gunshot during the
51-day standoff and flashes recorded by an airborne FBI infrared
camera just before the Branch Davidian compound burned were
inexplicable electronic ``anomalies.''

But FBI officials secretly offered to conduct private tests for
Danforth and his investigators even as Justice Department lawyers
last month rejected a proposal by the Branch Davidians' lawyers
for a joint public test, according a Nov. 5 letter to the court
from Danforth's office.

Those actions and a warning from Justice Department lawyers that
they planned to use national security exemptions to withhold data
needed to ensure accurate public tests prompted Danforth's office
on Nov. 5 to seek a court-supervised test.

The special counsel's office also has asked the FBI to turn over
its hundreds of guns deployed at Waco for ballistics comparisons
and other testing. Officials said they are still working out the
logistics to ensure that the ``precise'' weapons are surrendered
but expect to comply. Those weapons could be used in the
court-supervised infrared tests.

Testing FBI guns also could resolve the origin of a dozen .308
shell casings found in a house used by FBI snipers during the
siege. Agents of the federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms also used the house during a gunfight, which broke out
as the ATF attempted to search the compound and arrest leader
David Koresh on weapons violations. Four ATF agents died in the
battle that began the 51-day standoff.

All of the ATF's guns used at Waco were sent in 1993 for testing
by the FBI laboratory, but records indicate there was no effort
to tie any of the guns to the shell casings.

In Monday's order, Judge Smith echoed the special counsel's
concern that federal actions set the stage for dueling public and
private infrared field tests. ``The court is persuaded that one
FLIR (infrared) test should be conducted, with participation and
observation by the parties and the OSC (office of special
counsel),'' he wrote.

Mike Caddell, the Branch Davidians' lead lawyer, said the
decision could prove key to the sect's efforts to prove the
government should be held at least partially to blame for
tragedy.

``It again demonstrates that Judge Smith wants to get at the
truth,'' he said. ``If they really believe that's not gunfire on
that video, then the government's lawyers should embrace this
test with open arms.''

A massive wrongful death lawsuit scheduled for trial in Judge
Smith's court in May alleges that government agents fired into
the Branch Davidian compound, cutting off escape for 17 children
and other innocents as the compound caught fire. The fire erupted
six hours after FBI agents began ramming the compound with tanks
and spraying tear gas to force a surrender on April 19, 1993.

Justice Department lawyers have said the allegations are
baseless. They have noted that arson investigators ruled that a
fire that consumed the compound along with Branch Davidian leader
David Koresh and more than 80 followers was deliberately set by
the sect.

Justice Department spokesman Myron Marlin said the order is under
review. He declined further comment. The special counsel's office
could not be reached.

The ruling could help resolve a long public debate about the
source of the dozens of blips of light captured on the FBI's
April 19 infrared video -- flashes that appear to emanate from
both government and Branch Davidian positions.

Experts hired by the Branch Davidians' lawyers say the flashes
came from gunfire. Some independent experts -- including an
analyst for the House Government Reform Committee -- have echoed
that conclusion.

But experts retained by the government say that the FBI infrared
camera was too far away and the flashes lasted too long to be
gunfire.

Judge Smith's order gave both sides and Danforth 10 days to
propose an expert to oversee the test. The judge set a Nov. 22
deadline for objections to a plan for experts from each side and
one representing Danforth to help develop test protocols.

Also Monday, federal lawyers told the court that they have
surrendered to the Waco court all 

[CTRL] Fwd: Foreign Aid/UN Vote - JBS Alert Network

1999-11-15 Thread Mike Kathy Moxley

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon Nov 15 21:43:44 1999
Subject: Foreign Aid/UN Vote - JBS Alert Network
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The John Birch Society Email Alert Network - November 15, 1999

Stop the Abomination! The total sellout to the UN and abortion lobbies

Key Development: The Clinton Administration and the House Republican
leadership have sketched out a complete cave-in to the UN/abortion lobbies
on the Fiscal 2000 Foreign Operations Appropriations bill, H.R. 3196. This
compromise will be voted upon this week in the House and Senate before
Congress goes out of session for the holidays.

Recommendation: E-mail, fax, or call (it's too late to write) your
representative and senators expressing your outrage and horror at the
cave-in to the abortion and United Nations lobbies! Tell your congressmen
to oppose H.R. 3196!


Contact Congress:
Email - http://www.jbs.org/congress/
Phone - (202) 224-3121


Basic Facts: (1) The "compromise" deal on H.R. 3196 would pay all of the
$926 million in alleged "back dues" to the United Nations without
restricting the global body's support of China's forced abortion and
infanticide policies. Remember, the United Nations has called for total
confiscation of civilian-owned firearms, global taxation without
representation, a world central bank, world financial controls with a
redistributive mechanism, an unlimited ability to intervene in a nation's
internal affairs, and installation of a global criminal court without the
habeas corpus guarantee and other rights Americans are accustomed to in our
courts. And those are just proposals from this year!

(2) Not only would the bill renew all of the $385 million of the U.S.
foreign aid program devoted to family planning last year, but it would also
give President Clinton, for the first time, the option to waive the 1984
Mexico City regulations banning the funding of abortions and abortion
providers (in exchange for a mere 3 percent cut in the family planning
allotment). Under provisions of the Republican-led compromise, Americans
could be financing elective abortions abroad with this marginally reduced
family planning kitty of $372 million. Three percent is not worth the life
of one innocent life!

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tyrannical proposals please go to:
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Waco Motive.

1999-11-15 Thread Tsadowq

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In a message dated 11/15/1999 2:07:18 PM Mountain
Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 These 'astrological signs' were what I used to explain
the basis to Koresh. Mr. Koresh's excitement seemed
more focused on the aspect that he could relate
something new about the Bible. 

"I just found me a brand new box of matches...
And what he knows, you ain't got time to learn"

???

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