Nomad bridge “hacked” for ~$190million

[John Newman]

Estimates on loss is somewhere between $150-$190million.

https://cryptosaurus.tech/nomad-token-bridge-raided-for-190-million-in-frenzied-free-for-all/


Lol, the relevant bit from the article -


Nomad’s developers had accidentally pushed a routine update that told the
protocol to process any transaction with the default root hash of “0x00,”
where blockchain networks typically require a specific, unique root as
proof that the transaction is valid.


On a different matter - I normally use my personal mail server, where I’ve
stood up all the bits and pieces and feel much better than I do with
google, and yea of course my shit is running on various VM providers (or
hosted at work - depends on current job situation)…. Anyway, I don’t use
AWS or GCP, and that also makes me feel a tiny fucking bit better. I
realize it’s mostly an illusion of separation but all the same… in any
case, servers are down while I rearchitect everything.  Joined cp with one
of my gmail accounts for now.  Dipping my toe in the list - seems pretty
fucking toxic, ya?

Cheers,
John N

Re: Coup Averted.

[John Newman]

It's depressing reading so much time and, I guess, effort put into this kind of 
idiocy.

Fuck Biden

Double-Fuck Trump.

There's something rotten in Denmark? There's something rotten in any part of 
the ruling elite. And wasting your time on idiotic shit like this is exactly 
what they love. You could be pondering solutions to this fucking rigid class 
structure, this murderous cabal of regimes. Writing code, publicizing the 
actual countless crimes committed by any and all of the ruling class, the 
mega-wealthy companies driving us into a dystopia, not even hiding it, all in 
the name of wealth and power.

Anything would be more useful than chasing your tail with bizarre and pointless 
conspiracy theories about the "crimes of Hitlery" and the attempted attempt at 
an attempt of a coup by... lol, what?  Can't you see that Trump is just a 
vulgar version of any other fucking asshole republican and Biden is just a 
gaffe-prone version of any other asshole democrat? The differences are 
superficial, not substantive.

Making some art? Consuming some art? Playing a goddamn video game? Smoking a 
little cannabis? Stop pretending like Trump is some sort of savior to Biden, or 
vice versa. But, what the fuck am I doing wasting my time even replying to this.

Later,
John


> On Nov 4, 2020, at 21:38, jim bell  wrote:
> 
> Well, it looks like I spoke too soon!   However, the 'consolation prize' is 
> that it is so obvious that a 'coup' is attempted that I am satisfied that a 
> segment of the public will be outraged.   The people at the FBI and DOJ who 
> deliberately failed to properly investigate Biden's fraud, and failed to 
> publicize it, can be investigated by hearings in the Senate.
> 
> 
>   Jim Bell
> 
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2020, 11:02:35 PM PST, jim bell  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Fortunately, "the coup" was stopped.  But it wasn't the coup some people 
> anticipated.   In 2016, the leadership of the FBI attempted a coup, by the 
> trick of refusing to prosecute Hitlery Clinton for violations of the 
> Espionage Act.  Comey knew that if Hitlery had been indicted, she definitely 
> would have lost.  He hoped that by not indicting Hitlery, she might win.  He 
> chose the only path available to him that might let her win.
> Yet, she didn't win, anyway.  That's why I called that an "attempted coup".
> 
> In December 2019, the FBI was given a computer laptop which contained Hunter 
> Biden's hard drive information.  The public  only learned of this information 
> in late September 2020, which seemed to be too late to expose what Joe and 
> Hunter Biden had been doing, playing footsie with Ukraine and China. So by 
> concealing this information, once again the FBI tried to stage a coup, hoping 
> that the public would only learn, too late, how this crook had been foisted 
> on them.
> 
> I can only assume that the public smelled a rat, and decided that they didn't 
> dare give control of the Federal government to Joe Biden for four years.
> 
> Not incidentally, on Election Day, Joe Biden confused the names of his two 
> granddaughters, and introduced one of them as his dead son, Beau Biden.
> 
> And this guy wanted us to give his finger authority over the nuclear button!  
>  What unmitigated gall!
> 
> I'm proud to have voted...for Jo Jorgensen, the Libertarian candidate. (I 
> live in Washington state, which as I write this Yahoo/AP said went 61% for 
> Biden.)No, Jo didn't win, but the public didn't lose nearly as badly as 
> it could have.
> 
> Coup averted.
> 
>Jim Bell
> 



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Re: worse than rabies: 'theybies' - “But, mommy, I saw Charley do pee pee and he's a boy!” - Mom: "How absolutely DARE you use such language!" - [ENJOY] [PEACE]

[John Newman]

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 21:43, Zenaan Harkness  vomited into 
> my mailserver -


Zen's biggest source of "news" is a re-launch of a nazi periodical and a 
Russian government mouthpiece.

I always forget that he's just a troll. Even if he believed the asinine shit he 
posts, if his jokes were actual attempts at humor, etc - it would just be 
trolling as a side effect of being a worthless shit.

I suppose when you want an authentic troll, choose Zen :)

In the land of the /somewhat/-sane, I finally setup a new mail filtering scheme 
so I won't have to glance through this tripe anymore.  If I were the type of 
guy to smoke a gram of trichrome-encrusted cannabis, rolled up in an 
emptied-out cigarillo, I might just do that.


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Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

[John Newman]

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 21:25, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 08:41:11PM -0500, John Newman wrote:
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 19:35, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am pretty sure the great majority of blacks would inwardly want a gun
>>> law specifically on blacks such as Bloomberg proposed, and a lot of them
>>> would be so politically incorrect as to outwardly favor it.
>>> 
>> 
>> I'm pretty sure you are brain damaged.
>> 
>>> The majority of blacks favor laws on crack cocaine that clearly have,
>>> and are clearly intended to have, disparate impact, and native Americans
>>> support laws on alcohol that are barely wearing a fig leaf to disguise
>>> their racial character.
>> 
>> Do you have anything to back up either of those statements? You
>> think blacks support laws that lock them up 2 or 3 or 4x as long
>> for the same fucking drug by weight (active ingredient *cocaine*
>> hydrochloride vs *cocaine* & baking soda)?
>> 
>> I doubt it.
>> 
>> However, in that same vein you never let go, your supposed racial
>> lessers tendency towards *self-destruction* (a vein long mined, but
>> still registering, blood rushing in thick and dark!)  - fact-free
>> bigots like yourself have ensured your own *self-destruction*, made
>> sure you will always be fringe morons, good for a laugh, easily
>> riled up, and of zero consequence. Your outspoken, outlandish,
>> fucking disgusting beliefs aren't trendy, they're grotesque, and
>> they aren't catching on.
>> 
>> You support such a wide array of backwards takes on social issues
>> - on things like gender equality,
> 
> This might be one out of the box for you John, but the two sexes are actually 
> different.
> 

The differences between the sexes, Z*vomit*, does not mean one (the male, of 
which you at least pretend to be a member) should continue to rape, beat, 
murder, and otherwise do what the fuck ever,
just because. Equality of potential, equality under the "legal system", freedom 
from de-facto rule by the nearest and strongest man - obviously this is what I 
meant.


>> race equality,
> 
> And again, we get this is likely a radical concept, but actually the races 
> are different, with different characteristics and different aptitudes - I am 
> simply never going to out-marathon an equivalent Nigerian, given similar 
> training.
> 
> 

Who is the "we" here? You and James? In any case - you're right! Races are 
different. But not the way you think..

https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/race-is-real-but-its-not-genetic

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/04/race-genetics-science-africa/

https://www.sapiens.org/biology/is-race-real/


Difference beyond a few superficial things in race is due to nurture, not 
nature. African and native american home countries were systematically 
exploited, plundered, exterminated, subjugated for slavery, etc, etc (its in 
even the history books you read) for hundreds of years (and still are). It's no 
surprise you can point to the fact that they haven't stood back up from their 
beating yet.

I know your lot don't like to acknowledge actual factual, researched science, 
so I'm not going to keep on going here...

>> on daddy beating
>> the fuck out of mommy for ..er .. cuz James believes in a patriarchy!
> 
> Extra extra!  Read all about it!  Newman's matriarchy is about to take over 
> the world...
> 

Lol. You're a fucking idiot.

> 
>> Indeed, I've always thought the right wing "christian/European",
>> as he gets more and more extreme, curves back in towards the equally
>> socially backwards and extreme "muslim/Arab", where they (you and
>> your muslim doppelgänger) can meet, astonished to find someone else
>> who believes in essentially the same social mores, customs unchanged
>> for 1000+ year-old. The astonishment comes because its fringe fucking
>> lunatic nonsense.
> 
> Except, Islam is Right about women.  So who's fringe now?  Ha!
> 
> 
>> Maybe you can find a high-dollar hooker, James, or a few of them,
>> that will let you play out your fantasy of life in the Maghreb 1200
>> years ago. Somehow I doubt even this would make you happy. You don't
>> seem the type for happiness.
> 
> I can only imagine, but sorry to say but I don't think you're his type.
> 
> Nice try though.

Yeah, har-har. Don't worry dude, you'll lose that cherry some day. Lol, just 
kidding, you fucking noxious freak.




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Re: james donalds 'political philosophy'

[John Newman]

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 19:35, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> 
> I am pretty sure the great majority of blacks would inwardly want a gun
> law specifically on blacks such as Bloomberg proposed, and a lot of them
> would be so politically incorrect as to outwardly favor it.
> 

I'm pretty sure you are brain damaged.

> The majority of blacks favor laws on crack cocaine that clearly have,
> and are clearly intended to have, disparate impact, and native Americans
> support laws on alcohol that are barely wearing a fig leaf to disguise
> their racial character.

Do you have anything to back up either of those statements? You
think blacks support laws that lock them up 2 or 3 or 4x as long
for the same fucking drug by weight (active ingredient *cocaine*
hydrochloride vs *cocaine* & baking soda)?

I doubt it.

However, in that same vein you never let go, your supposed racial
lessers tendency towards *self-destruction* (a vein long mined, but
still registering, blood rushing in thick and dark!)  - fact-free
bigots like yourself have ensured your own *self-destruction*, made
sure you will always be fringe morons, good for a laugh, easily
riled up, and of zero consequence. Your outspoken, outlandish,
fucking disgusting beliefs aren't trendy, they're grotesque, and
they aren't catching on.

You support such a wide array of backwards takes on social issues
- on things like gender equality, race equality, on daddy beating
the fuck out of mommy for ..er .. cuz James believes in a patriarchy!
Indeed, I've always thought the right wing "christian/European",
as he gets more and more extreme, curves back in towards the equally
socially backwards and extreme "muslim/Arab", where they (you and
your muslim doppelgänger) can meet, astonished to find someone else
who believes in essentially the same social mores, customs unchanged
for 1000+ year-old. The astonishment comes because its fringe fucking
lunatic nonsense.

Maybe you can find a high-dollar hooker, James, or a few of them,
that will let you play out your fantasy of life in the Maghreb 1200
years ago. Somehow I doubt even this would make you happy. You don't
seem the type for happiness.

--
John
j...@synfin.org
j...@cachedout.net



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Re: Epstein's jobs

[John Newman]

On Wed, 2020-02-12 at 17:39 +, Ryan Carboni wrote:
> Art dealer
> Drug-dealer
> Orgy resort host
> Philanthropist
> Air taxi service
> 
> 
> Some of these people are stupid enough to agree to calling cocaine
> cheese pizza as a code name.
> 
> In a proper revolution these people would all be squeezed out for
> their incompetence (in a totalitarian revolution, random people would
> be taken off the street to fill their jobs).  It is unlikely that
> would ever happen, but the argument that you know what kind of
> criminal someone is by hanging around them from time to time is a bit
> incredible.
> 
> It is still a bit funny that none of these people are capable of
> handling their own affairs to the extent that they can't rent out
> mansions to host their own parties using their own staff, or even
> talk
> to the help to see if they are treated fairly, or even legalize
> cocaine in a small portion of their own cities.
> 
> I do not think if New York was vaporized anyone would notice or mind.
> 
> To prove it, I don't think anyone will react to the previous sentence
> by moving a single inch.


Carboni - either get on some fucking meds, or please let me know - what
meds are you currently taking?? So I can avoid them (or at least abuse
them only in moderation).


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Re: Assassination Politics - Harpers article

[John Newman]

On January 15, 2020 8:34:10 PM UTC, John Newman  wrote:
>I heard something on NPR in the car, part of their "This is Think"
>series, about an article on Harpers about ... Assassination Politics! 
>
>The NPR story referenced Jim Bell and cypherpunks a bunch of times, and
>rehashed a bunch of shit that is in the article (which I wasn't
>familiar with).  It also talked about scammers with fake AP markets.
>One of the things that struck me is that it seems most (none) of the
>intended victims were *not* being killed for being part of the
>government or being cops or anything remotely as Jim has idealized it.
>They were people being targeted for the same old stupid reasons idiots
>are always killing each other: unrequited love, jealousy, rage, etc.
>
>Link below:
>
>
>https://harpers.org/blog/2019/12/click-here-to-kill-online-murder-markets-dark-web/
>


Seems the correct link for the story is -


https://harpers.org/archive/2020/01/click-here-to-kill-dark-web-hitman/


Although it was easily found from the first link I sent ;)


 
>Couldn't find the NPR bit online, I imagine it will show up here in the
>next day or so (it seems to be a couple days behind):
>
>https://www.npr.org/podcasts/478859728/think


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Re: Vermont: Year in prison for anyone under 21 in possession of cell phone - tentative legislation

[John Newman]

On January 12, 2020 12:44:05 AM UTC, Razer  wrote:
>
>On 1/11/20 12:59 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 08:01:41AM -0800, Razer wrote:
>>> Not going to happen,
>> The crypto back doors on all phones?
>
>
>Schools have already been busted for doing that over the years
>
>Better the phones are required to be turned off on premises, if you
>ever
>expect the kids to be properly indoctrinated into Merican Fascist
>thinking.
>
>Ps. The first time I ever saw a calculator allowed in a classroom, no
>less a test area, I knew American children would be a global math fail.
>You need to learn the mechanics, just like you need to learn Text is
>spelled TEXT not TXT, first. Then you can fake it. Which is what I
>always told the class A drivers I trained. Learn to do it MY way first,
>THEN you can do it your way.
>
>Rr

I guess. I don't think I could've passed the AP Calculus curriculum
without the trusty TI-84 graphing calculator. Although, those things were
widely used not only for legit math but also to store notes for cheating
on all sorts of shit.  And to play games ;)

I think kids still use those (relatively) ancient things at school.

Re: There is No Point to Beautiful Women

[John Newman]

On January 5, 2020 4:02:55 PM UTC, Mirimir  wrote:
>On 01/04/2020 11:43 PM, Zigga da Bigga Trigga N.gga wrote:
>
>
>
>I didn't bother to watch the video.
>

Who would?

>But I do know that human beauty is fundamentally just something that's
>been selected for. Like colorful feathers of birds. Or all sorts of
>secondary sexual features of various animals.

Naturally :)

And, of course, that is the point to beautiful women (and men) - they're fun
in the sack, or at least they hold that promise.

Re: trolls - Trolls -- TROLLLLSSSSS!!!!! - "democracy"'s greatest threat, keyboard gimp jockeys - [PEACE]

[John Newman]

On January 4, 2020 10:54:25 AM UTC, Cecilia Tanaka  
wrote:
>On Sat, Jan 4, 2020, 01:57 John Newman  wrote:
>
>Why the fuck is that asshole Z*n posting under a new alias?
>>
>
>Hi, John!  Happy New Year to you and all those who you love!  <3
>

Hi Ceci - happy new year! It's 2020... somehow it finally sounds
like the year matches the level of scifi crap that is, for some time,
everyday life.


>I don't know exactly why she is doing it.  It's illogical, really
>stupid.
>

I suspect Z*n, with whom I'll just stick to using an "it" gender neutral 
pronoun,
was looking to get out from under near universal derision, and wanted a new 
start.
Naturally, being Z*n, it started a new email alias called Zigger the 
N.igger...*sigh"

That's really more brain cells and list traffic consumed on the subject than it 
deserves :)


>Ah, must explain an important thing to you and the list!  :D
>
>ZH always loved to say that women are "intellectually limited",
>"inferior",
>"stupid"...  Well, whatever, the list of offenses is too long to be
>reproduced in just one single message.
>
>So, I will use only feminine pronouns to mention ZH because she is
>zillions
>of times more harmful, obnoxious, and childish than any woman that I've
>already meet in this world.
>
>Congratulations, ZH!  I do really know  - literally, in person, not
>only on
>Internet -  hundreds of persons and you are among the most stupid and
>nasty
>of them, yay!!!  ;D
>
>Don't worry, John.  She is the kind of limited girl who needs to
>remember
>how to breath, so will probably live much less than this list,
>hihihi...  ;)
>
>Tender kisses for you and your family, John!!!  Take care and be
>happy!!!
><3
>

Likewise :)

>c.


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Re: trolls - Trolls -- TROLLLLSSSSS!!!!! - "democracy"'s greatest threat, keyboard gimp jockeys - [PEACE]

[John Newman]

Why the fuck is that asshole Z*n posting under a new alias?

You don't think people won't plonk this one twice as fast?
 
[plonk]



On January 3, 2020 2:21:57 AM UTC, "Zigger the N.gger"  
wrote:
>Witness: the awesome power of Kek!
>
>  The Great Russian Election-Hacking Myth
>  https://theduran.com/the-great-russian-election-hacking-myth/
>https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/great-russian-election-hacking-myth
>
>...
>Are we now to believe James Bond’s deadliest enemy is a troll who
>sits behind a keyboard all day long hoping to dissuade people
>from voting Democrat by posting cartoons augmented by subtle
>propaganda? Apparently so.
>
>...
>Scotsman Gary McKinnon hacked into no fewer than 97 US military
>and NASA computers over a thirteen month period in 2001–2002. He
>said he was looking for evidence of UFOs and other fringe
>subjects. His was said to have been the biggest military hack of
>all time.
>
>Gimp on, muffas :D
>
>
>
>Caitlin Johnstone ever apropos:
>
>  
>  What Upstanding Citizens Believe Vs. What Crazy Conspiracy
>  Theorists Believe
>https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/what-upstanding-citizens-believe-vs-what-crazy-conspiracy-theorists-believe
>https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/what-upstanding-citizens-believe-vs-what-crazy-conspiracy-theorists-believe-4cf81a2183ee
>
>Crazy, stupid conspiracy theorists believe that powerful people
>sometimes make immoral plans in secret.
>
>Smart upstanding citizens believe the TV always tells the truth
>and the CIA exists for no reason.
>
>Crazy, stupid conspiracy theorists believe that extreme
>government secrecy makes it necessary to discuss possible
>theories about what might be going on behind that veil of
>opacity.
>
>Smart upstanding citizens believe that just because a
>world-dominating government with the most powerful military in
>the history of civilization has no transparency and zero
>accountability to the public, that doesn’t mean you’ve got to get
>all paranoid about it.
>
>Crazy, stupid conspiracy theorists believe it’s okay to ask
>questions about important events that happen in the world, even
>if their government tells them they shouldn’t.
>
>Smart upstanding citizens believe everything they need to know
>about reality comes out of Mike Pompeo’s angelic mouth.
>...
>
>
>
>On a lighter note, their day is coming:
>  
>  "Their Day Is Coming, I Promise You": Durham Probe To Contain "Very
>  Problematic Findings", Meadows Warns
>https://www.zerohedge.com/political/their-day-coming-i-promise-you-warns-meadows-says-durham-probe-may-contain-very
>
>...
>"When we look at the investigation that is going on now with Mr.
>Durham, he is finding things that will be very problematic," said
>Meadows - who will not be seeking reelection in 2020.
>
>"And where they’re problematic is not just in the initial
>investigation, it is after January of 2017 before the president
>is actually sworn into office, they’re still operating on trying
>to take him down when they know they had no case," Meadows added.
>
>Durham, appointed by Attorney General Bill Bar to examine the
>origins of the Russia investigation, has reportedly been focusing
>on former CIA Director John Brennan's communications in regards
>to the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment which
>concluded that Vladimir Putin meddled in the last election to
>help President Trump.
>
>Barr, who has been directly involved in the investigation,
>reportedly traveled to London over the summer to discuss matters
>with UK intelligence officials - telling NBC that he was there
>"to introduce Durham to the appropriate people and set up a
>channel through which he could work with these countries."
>
>...
>R-NC Meadows and Bannon:
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKS5B9fo2f4
>
>
>
>Now, I wonder, why does Hilary "We came, we saw, he died" Clinton,
>get a chill down her spine when she looks into Durham's inquisitorial
>eyes?
>
>Nope. No idea. Couldn't possibly have anything to do with years of
>evil, illegal, unlawful, unconstitutional actions. Not possible.
>
>  Durham:
>My -eyes-, nigger! Look in, to muh -eyes-!!
>You is face music!
>
>I just love it when dey plan comes togedder :D


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Re: America is a nation of immigrants

[John Newman]

On January 3, 2020 6:39:53 PM UTC, Mirimir  wrote:
>On 01/03/2020 09:13 AM, Razer wrote:
>> You're walking on Native land shit-for-brains.
>
>That's true enough. In the US, most of them died, long ago. But in
>Mexico and some parts of Central and South America, they're still
>around. I've visited many places in the mountains of Mexico where many
>speak little Spanish. Including Huautla de Jiménez ;)
>
>However, it's also true that multiple groups arrived from Asia in
>multiple waves, over perhaps 40 kyr or more. And there are some
>examples
>where later arrivals killed or displaced earlier ones.
>
>Which is pretty much what's happened everywhere, for millions of years.
>

Or however many hundred K years modern human has been around. Except, of course,
modern humans wiping each other out is just another expression of
Darwinism (with modern tech having really twisted the meaning of "natural 
selection")
and that shit has been going on forever.


>Still, the Native Americans are very unusual. In that there were more
>or
>less stable cultures throughout the Americas for maybe 10-20 kyr. Until
>the fucking Europeans arrived, anyway. _1491_ and _1492_ are sobering.

One nice thing that bit the Europeans - syphilis.  The (insert nationality here)
disease was one of the few things endemic to the Americas, the one germ
that seemed to at least cause some discomfort as it spread through the old 
world 
shortly after Colombo's first return ships.

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Re: Testing whether devices are NordVPN proxies

[John Newman]

On December 4, 2019 12:59:11 PM UTC, Mirimir  wrote:
>On 12/04/2019 04:58 AM, Comet Dweller wrote:
>> On 04/12/2019 11:47, Mirimir wrote:
>> 
>>> It seems that NordVPN is routing traffic to Disney+ through many
>>> residential IPv4 in the US.
>>> 
>>> This is an interesting approach, if it is true. I wonder if it's in
>their Ts
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 0)
>>>
>https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thr...it-might-be-through-your-own-computer.423660/
>> 
>> 
>> Mangled URL there. Should be:
>https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/how-is-nordvpn-unblocking-disney-it-might-be-through-your-own-computer.423660/
>
>Thanks :)
>
>I neglected to cite Derek Johnson's post on the issue.[0] He cites
>Luminati's complaint against Tesonet,[1] which claims that OxyLabs is
>infringing its patents:
>
>| 19. Upon information and belief, the OxyLabs residential proxy
>| network is based upon numerous user devices, each of which is
>| a client device identifiable over the Internet by an IP address.
>| Upon information and belief, these user devices become part of
>| the network through the execution of Tesonet code embedded in
>| applications downloaded by that devices user. Upon information
>| and belief, these devices send their identifier to a server
>| (“First Server”), such as Oxylab’s dedicated proxy servers,
>| which store these identifiers.
>|
>| 20. Upon information and belief, Tesonet has developed or is
>| developing OxyLabs embedded software for different platforms
>| including Google Android and Windows. Upon information and
>| belief, while frequently renamed, the above OxyLabs embedded
>| software that enables the residential proxy network includes
>| embedded code named “genericexitnode,” “winnerbot,”
>| “CoffeeService,” “instantcoffee,” and “ENService.”
>
>| 21. Upon information and belief, the above OxyLabs embedded
>| code has been integrated in at least the following software
>| applications that may be downloaded by any user located
>| anywhere having Internet access: AppAspect Technologies’ “EMI
>| Calculator” and “Automatic Call Recorder”; Birrastorming
>| Ideas, S.L’s “IPTV Manager for VL;” CC Soft’s “Followers
>| Tool for Instagram;” Glidesoft Technologies’ “Route Finder;”
>| ImaTechInnovations’ “3D Wallpaper Parallax 2018;” and
>| Softmate a/k/a Toolbarstudio Inc.’s “AppGeyser” and
>| “Toolbarstudio.”
>
>Maybe Oxylabs is connected with NordVPN, and maybe not. But NordVPN
>could be leasing residential proxies from them. Or from other firms who
>do similar things.
>
>0)
>https://medium.com/@derek./how-is-nordvpn-unblocking-disney-6c51045dbc30
>1)
>https://cdn-resprivacy.pressidium.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Luminati-Networks-LTD-vs-UAB-Tesonet.pdf

Wow, this seems super scummy/criminal.  Does any of this  software mentioned,
which seems to turn the users machine into a proxy, TELL the user that
they their computer is being leveraged as a proxy?


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Fwd: [TUHS] Happy birthday, Morris Worm!

[John Newman]

 Original Message 
From: Dave Horsfall 
Sent: November 1, 2019 8:36:39 PM UTC
To: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society 
Cc: Computer Old Farts Followers 
Subject: [TUHS] Happy birthday, Morris Worm!

The infamous Morris Worm was released in 1988; making use of known 
vulnerabilities in Sendmail/finger/RSH (and weak passwords), it took out a 
metric shitload of SUN-3s and 4BSD Vaxen (the author claimed that it was 
accidental, but the idiot hadn't tested it on an isolated network first). A 
temporary "condom" was discovered by Rich Kulawiec with "mkdir /tmp/sh".

Another fix was to move the C compiler elsewhere.

-- Dave

Re: Cryptocurrency: Anonymous to Invest $75M of Crypto to Develop Privacy Coins and Anon Tech

[John Newman]

> On Nov 16, 2019, at 2:51 AM, jim bell  wrote:
> 
> On Saturday, November 16, 2019, 12:22:31 AM PST, John Newman 
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Nov 16, 2019, at 1:37 AM, jim bell  wrote:
> >
> > I think you are mischaracterizing what I am proposing, as suggested by your 
> > use of the word, "seems".  Also, there is what is typically called an 
> > "opportunity cost", which is the 'cost' of NOT selecting the alternative.
> >
> 
> What you proposed was quite clearly said. You proposed using AP to kill car 
> thieves and people that look at porn.
> 
> 
> NO!   24 years ago, I DID propose the former.  But go back and read:  I DID 
> NOT propose the latter.  It was raised as a possibility, by someone else, and 
> I then COMMENTED on that concept.
> 
> If you cannot follow English-language discussion any better than this, who 
> can trust your conclusions?
> 
> 
> >You talked about the difficulty in finding people who had committed such 
> >crimes (cuz how else do you put an AP hit out on them?)
> 
> 
> I can discuss the possibility that tomorrow, it will rain.  That doesn't mean 
> I ADVOCATE that it rain, or that I WISH it to rain, let alone can I MAKE it 
> rain!
> 
> 
> >> For example, I have long suggested that AP, in use, will get rid of all 
> >> militaries, wars, and nuclear weapons.  The argument is simple:  Nobody 
> >> will need militaries, or nukes, because any disputes can be easily solved 
> >> by donation.
> >
> 
> 
> >Maybe, or maybe AP gets co-opted by the same powers running shit right now.
> 
> Can you explain how that might happen?  You are speculating.
> 

All of this discussion is speculation Jim :).

The way I see it being co-opted is pretty simple:  govcorp uses its nearly 
limitless financial resources to target anyone who is pushing for AP in a way 
that would take them out of power. You don’t think they will fight with 
everything they have? They even have AP to use for their ends, because at this 
point AP has to be a system with perfect privacy (right? We hope so!), making 
government assassinations deniable.

Legit AP participants, by which I mean people not sanctioned by govcorp who are 
donating funds and killing the rich/politicians/law-enforcement/etc, would be 
vilified by the media and the vast majority of society would see AP as horrible 
criminality.  People don’t give a fuck about real freedom, not most of them.

The ruling class has too many resources. And some of your most recent 
statements paint AP in a fucked up new light. When the originator and biggest 
proponent of the idea has stated he thinks killing car thieves is a valuable 
usage of the tool, essentially portraying it as a replacement for the current 
criminal justice system, I think you lose another big chunk of sympathetic 
support. Murderous treatment of a mere thief is squalid, gross, and totally 
reminiscent of cops, jail, death row, torture, and the prison-industrial 
complex...


> >Maybe they never let it take off.
> 
> 
> Prior to the development of Bitcoin, there were probably discussions to the 
> point, "Maybe they will never let digital cash take off.  Didn't seem to stop 
> it, huh?  And now, there are many hundreds of altcoins in existence, and 
> there is little news of somebody trying to "ban" them.
> 
> And today, there is actually a REAL death-prediction market in existence, 
> Ethereum+Augur.  But not, yet, an "assassination market", but that simply 
> because a large payment to one unknown predictor.  So, we are vastly closer 
> to an AP-type market in 2019 than we were in 1995.  Your weak speculation 
> wouldn't have appeared to be so weak in 1995 or 1996, but you are well over 
> 20 years too late.
> 

In danger of repeating myself, I think it boils down to a few things. Not 
enough “regular people” give a goddamn about freedom, toppling the government, 
etc. They are happy to shake a US soldier's hand and thank him for his service, 
they call cops when they have a problem, they just want a veneer of freedom and 
plenty of toys to buy.  Further, you’ve poisoned the well with some noxious 
ideas about minor shit. It seems to me AP is for war criminals, billionaires, 
people destroying the planet for profit, etc… not for minor thievery or other 
shit that, under the current system, would just land you on paper or in some 
part of the American gulag for a brief time.

> 
> >Maybe even if the tech is there, which it isn’t now, people are too fucking 
> >happy to get the latest gizmo from Apple and ignore the fact that they are 
> >slaves.
> 
> If they never have any sort of idea that they can be anything other than 
> slaves, you will be right.  But I think we are long past that situation.
>

Re: Cryptocurrency: Anonymous to Invest $75M of Crypto to Develop Privacy Coins and Anon Tech

[John Newman]

> On Nov 16, 2019, at 1:37 AM, jim bell  wrote:
> 
> I think you are mischaracterizing what I am proposing, as suggested by your 
> use of the word, "seems".   Also, there is what is typically called an 
> "opportunity cost", which is the 'cost' of NOT selecting the alternative.
> 

What you proposed was quite clearly said. You proposed using AP to kill car 
thieves and people that look at porn.

You talked about the difficulty in finding people who had committed such crimes 
(cuz how else do you put an AP hit out on them?)

> For example, I have long suggested that AP, in use, will get rid of all 
> militaries, wars, and nuclear weapons.  The argument is simple:  Nobody will 
> need militaries, or nukes, because any disputes can be easily solved by 
> donation.
> 


Maybe, or maybe AP gets co-opted by the same powers running shit right now. 
Maybe they never let it take off. Maybe even if the tech is there, which it 
isn’t now, people are too fucking happy to get the latest gizmo from Apple and 
ignore the fact that they are slaves. Most people are not anarchists. Can the 
critical mass of well-intending users of AP, a group of which I don’t think I 
can consider you to be a member after your most recent suggestions, be depended 
upon to win in a fight to target and pay for assassinations against the 
billionaire ruling class and their government and corporate lackeys?


> That, at least if it is likely to be true, would be a genuine benefit, a huge 
> one in fact.  So, how do you know that even if AP has some sort of negative 
> factor associated with it, that a post-AP world wouldn't be better than 
> today?  I suggest that 'you' (term used generically) who expresses an 
> objection to AP have a certain responsibility to figure out which is better:  
> The status quo or the post-AP world.  It's not a legitimate objection to 
> cherry-pick one aspect, ignore everything else, and declare "I don't like 
> it!!!"
> 


It is absolutely legitimate to find certain aspects of AP, or in this case how 
it would be implemented by you, and see obvious problems. How else do you 
problem solve or analyze the efficacy of.. anything?


> If, nearly 25 years after AP was first publicized, nobody has done the 
> admittedly-involved work to determine this, that suggests that people are 
> unthinkingly defaulting to the status quo, and for no obvious reason.  The 
> old excuse, "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know" is a 
> poor excuse.


I think people probably either see the limitations I’ve expressed, or they are 
part of that population that is disgusted by the idea and doesn’t really want 
to live in a world of escalating assassination wars.  I mean, it sounds like a 
cool video game :)


> 
> Wouldn't it have been better if, 10-20 years ago, somebody had implement a 
> 'model AP' system, a simulation of it.  In other words, just figure out what 
> would likely happen.  No actual cash, no payments, no deaths, etc.  Wouldn't 
> we have learned something?   If your opinion today had been informed by this 
> kind of simulation, how do you know your opinion wouldn't have been different 
> today?
> 


Sure, a simulation would be cool, even today. Neither of us can know how the 
outcome of a simulation would affect our thoughts on AP - until we see one, 
it’s pure conjecture.


>   Jim Bell
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, November 15, 2019, 11:22:33 PM PST, John Newman  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I object to replacing a police state with a police state by mob, which seems 
> to be what you are actually proposing.
> 
> > On Nov 16, 2019, at 12:56 AM, jim bell  wrote:
> >
> > I wish you would actually EXPLAIN yourself.  This sounds remarkably 
> > passive-agressive.
> >
> > You either have a valid objection, or you don't.  If you had one, you 
> > should be willing to state it.
> >
> > Don't pretend to have a valid opinion, unless you can defend it.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Friday, November 15, 2019, 10:37:59 PM PST, John Newman 
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I always had a bad feeling about AP, for a few reasons. Jim just made
> > some of those reasons extremely obvious.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > John
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:30:50PM +, jim bell wrote:
> > >  One difficulty with using AP...or any enforcement mechanism...against 
> > > ANYBODY is, you first have to detect the alleged crime.  I used car 
> > > thieves as a foil in Part 5 of AP.  https://cryptome.org/ap.htm
> > > Like bank robbers, the probability of catching (or even identifying) a 
> > > car thief the first time he acts is probably low.  But eventually, he 
> > > will get found out.  And

Re: Cryptocurrency: Anonymous to Invest $75M of Crypto to Develop Privacy Coins and Anon Tech

[John Newman]

I object to replacing a police state with a police state by mob, which seems to 
be what you are actually proposing.

> On Nov 16, 2019, at 12:56 AM, jim bell  wrote:
> 
> I wish you would actually EXPLAIN yourself.   This sounds remarkably 
> passive-agressive.
> 
> You either have a valid objection, or you don't.  If you had one, you should 
> be willing to state it.
> 
> Don't pretend to have a valid opinion, unless you can defend it.
> 
> 
> 
> On Friday, November 15, 2019, 10:37:59 PM PST, John Newman  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I always had a bad feeling about AP, for a few reasons. Jim just made
> some of those reasons extremely obvious.
> 
> Cheers,
> John
> 
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:30:50PM +, jim bell wrote:
> >  One difficulty with using AP...or any enforcement mechanism...against 
> > ANYBODY is, you first have to detect the alleged crime.  I used car thieves 
> > as a foil in Part 5 of AP.  https://cryptome.org/ap.htm
> > Like bank robbers, the probability of catching (or even identifying) a car 
> > thief the first time he acts is probably low.  But eventually, he will get 
> > found out.  And then he can get targeted using AP.
> > If a pedophile was satisfied with looking at some dirty pictures, which can 
> > reside in some subdirectory on his computer,  it isn't clear how this can 
> > be proven in enough confidence to induce the public to donate to an AP 
> > system.   But it's arguable that it isn't really necessary to make sure AP 
> > would work...it would be enough to CONVINCE people that AP would work.  Not 
> > exactly the same thing.
> > Its clear that the news media has a major problem  with their tolerating 
> > and covering up for pedophiles and other sex criminals.  We are definitely 
> > learning that now, with people like Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein, 
> > Kevin Spacey,  Bill Cosby,  
> > This site lists many others.  
> > https://www.ranker.com/list/famous-registered-offenders/celebrity-lists
> > 
> > If executives of the news media get targeted by an AP-type for tolerating 
> > sex crimes, they would become far more careful about failing to expose this 
> > kind of news.  And that's a good step.  
> > 
> > 
> >On Friday, November 15, 2019, 02:20:57 PM PST, Zenaan Harkness 
> >  wrote:  
> >  
> >  Jim, if you want any success, John appears right when he suggested
> > you link your system with targetting pedophiles - Joe Blogs in the
> > public tends to be motivated in protecting his young daughters,
> > nieces etc, and although I think your idea is a flawed idea, you
> > might get public traction at the moment with all the hoohah around
> > Epstein and the Clintons.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 06:50:39PM +, jim bell wrote:
> > >  This Fund, and perhaps implied offer, seems to have arrived at just the 
> > > right time.   I have proposed that an alternative to TOR be constructed, 
> > > and that is certainly not an idea that is new with my proposal. Anybody 
> > > who is uncomfortable with TOR should want to see real competition.
> > > I have found, by obtaining a quotation, that the hardware costs are 
> > > probably going to be $80 per node, and it would be good if 1000 nodes 
> > > could be achieved, at least initially.  People could host these nodes at 
> > > their businesses and homes where they are already paying for Internet 
> > > service.  
> > > I think we should appply for some of these funds.  Potentially, they 
> > > could subsidize the hardware, say $80,000.   They could also subsidize a 
> > > portion of the internet service costs:  I suggest the subsidy be set to 
> > > approximately difference between the cost of 40 Mbit/second service, 
> > > maybe $40 per month, and 1 gigabit/second service, which for Centurylink 
> > > I believe to be $65/month.  (and there appears to currently be no monthly 
> > > data-limit for 1 Gig service.)
> > > This would powerfully motivate people to offer to host a node, because 
> > > they would be getting the 1 gigabit service upgrade essentially for free. 
> > >  This might also provide funds for development of the software, which is 
> > > a task in itself.  A subsidy of $25/month is about $300/year, and 
> > > multiplied by 1000 nodes amounts to $300,000, or a total of about 
> > > $380,000 for the first year.  
> > > Can anybody imagine a more worthy, concrete proposal to accomplish what 
> > > this 'Unknown Fund' proposes to accomplish?  And its yearly cost 
> > &

Re: Cryptocurrency: Anonymous to Invest $75M of Crypto to Develop Privacy Coins and Anon Tech

[John Newman]

I always had a bad feeling about AP, for a few reasons. Jim just made
some of those reasons extremely obvious.

Cheers,
John

On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 11:30:50PM +, jim bell wrote:
>  One difficulty with using AP...or any enforcement mechanism...against 
> ANYBODY is, you first have to detect the alleged crime.  I used car thieves 
> as a foil in Part 5 of AP.  https://cryptome.org/ap.htm
> Like bank robbers, the probability of catching (or even identifying) a car 
> thief the first time he acts is probably low.  But eventually, he will get 
> found out.  And then he can get targeted using AP.
> If a pedophile was satisfied with looking at some dirty pictures, which can 
> reside in some subdirectory on his computer,  it isn't clear how this can be 
> proven in enough confidence to induce the public to donate to an AP system.   
> But it's arguable that it isn't really necessary to make sure AP would 
> work...it would be enough to CONVINCE people that AP would work.  Not exactly 
> the same thing.
> Its clear that the news media has a major problem  with their tolerating and 
> covering up for pedophiles and other sex criminals.  We are definitely 
> learning that now, with people like Jeffrey Epstein and Harvey Weinstein, 
> Kevin Spacey,  Bill Cosby,  
> This site lists many others.  
> https://www.ranker.com/list/famous-registered-offenders/celebrity-lists
> 
> If executives of the news media get targeted by an AP-type for tolerating sex 
> crimes, they would become far more careful about failing to expose this kind 
> of news.  And that's a good step.  
> 
> 
> On Friday, November 15, 2019, 02:20:57 PM PST, Zenaan Harkness 
>  wrote:  
>  
>  Jim, if you want any success, John appears right when he suggested
> you link your system with targetting pedophiles - Joe Blogs in the
> public tends to be motivated in protecting his young daughters,
> nieces etc, and although I think your idea is a flawed idea, you
> might get public traction at the moment with all the hoohah around
> Epstein and the Clintons.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2019 at 06:50:39PM +, jim bell wrote:
> >  This Fund, and perhaps implied offer, seems to have arrived at just the 
> >right time.   I have proposed that an alternative to TOR be constructed, and 
> >that is certainly not an idea that is new with my proposal. Anybody who is 
> >uncomfortable with TOR should want to see real competition.
> > I have found, by obtaining a quotation, that the hardware costs are 
> > probably going to be $80 per node, and it would be good if 1000 nodes could 
> > be achieved, at least initially.  People could host these nodes at their 
> > businesses and homes where they are already paying for Internet service.  
> > I think we should appply for some of these funds.  Potentially, they could 
> > subsidize the hardware, say $80,000.   They could also subsidize a portion 
> > of the internet service costs:  I suggest the subsidy be set to 
> > approximately difference between the cost of 40 Mbit/second service, maybe 
> > $40 per month, and 1 gigabit/second service, which for Centurylink I 
> > believe to be $65/month.  (and there appears to currently be no monthly 
> > data-limit for 1 Gig service.)
> > This would powerfully motivate people to offer to host a node, because they 
> > would be getting the 1 gigabit service upgrade essentially for free.  This 
> > might also provide funds for development of the software, which is a task 
> > in itself.  A subsidy of $25/month is about $300/year, and multiplied by 
> > 1000 nodes amounts to $300,000, or a total of about $380,000 for the first 
> > year.  
> > Can anybody imagine a more worthy, concrete proposal to accomplish what 
> > this 'Unknown Fund' proposes to accomplish?  And its yearly cost represents 
> > less than 1/2 of a percent of the proposed fund.  
> >            Jim Bell
> > 
> > 
> >    On Thursday, November 14, 2019, 01:48:41 PM PST, grarpamp 
> > wrote:  
> >  
> >  https://www.unknown.fund/
> > 
> > "
> > Unknown Fund - Press Release 11/13/2019
> > 
> > We are going to invest and donate $75 million of bitcoin in startups
> > that help anonymity ideas. Preferred niches are personal data
> > protection, tools for online anonymity, cryptocurrencies, blockchain.
> > 
> > 
> > Unknown Fund is Going to Invest and Donate $75 Million for the
> > Development of Ideas of Anonymity
> > 
> > The anonymous organisation Unknown Fund has announced that it intends
> > to invest and donate $75 million in bitcoin to startups which directly
> > or indirectly support the idea of anonymity. Preference will be given
> > to the following niches: protection of personal data, tools for
> > anonymity, cryptocurrency and blockchain.
> > 
> > The organizers of the fund are ordinary, anonymous people from
> > different countries who met on the 4chan English-language imageboard.
> > In a brief to our news agency Anonymous said:
> > 
> > “We are you, we are your sons and daughters, brothers and 

Re: Facebook is deleting the name of the potential whistleblower

[John Newman]

On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 04:21:02AM +, jim bell wrote:
>  On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 08:06:38 PM PST, Razer  
> wrote:
>  
>  On November 9, 2019 12:53:03 PM PST, jim bell  wrote:
> 
> >I don't think that re-publishing a name, which has probably already
> >been re-re-re-re-re-re-re-published thousands of times, could
> >constitute "interfering with a criminal investigation".  But your
> >imagination may differ.
> >             Jim Bell
> >
> 
> 
> You can do whatever you like until they tell you to stop.
> 
> Sounds like you are abandoning your foolish idea that after thousands of 
> other people have named Eric Ciaramella, it is somehow wrong to do so,
> > Then you can't,
> So far,  nobody has told me, or thousands of other people, to stop mentioning 
> Eric Ciaramella's name.  Nor are they likely to do thatThe law which 
> "protects" "whistleblowers" likely doesn't even cover this guy, who didn't 
> actually see anything; he was simply TOLD it, and the accuracy of that 
> telling is highly suspect.  And, to boot, he isn't a lawyer, and is highly 
> unlikely to have been able to interpret what he was told as being "legal" or 
> "illegal",
>  >and I'm sure there's some legal facility for making sure leaked information 
> gets reeled in as much as possible to avoid bungling up the investigation.
> I don't think it's even "leaked".  It was PUBLICIZED by some in the news 
> media, after having been GIVEN the name by government employees.   It is 
> called NEWS.  These things happen.  I seem to recall seeing that Shifty 
> Schiff actually accidently spoke the name.  The cat, then, was out of the bag.

LOL - why the fuck do you re-use Trump's idiotic nick names for his
political rivals? Wouldn't the POTUS be at the top of your AP list?


> >There's a bunch of federal codes I'm not up on, but the above is the bottom 
> >line and that line only rises higher towards you neck, and a garrotting, if 
> >it involves national security. 
> I guess that's the closest we can get you to admit that you are full of shit. 
>   This case had little to do with "national security".  
> 
> 
> >Disclaimer: I am not a Lawyer. DO NOT call me in the middle of the night for 
> >bail money.
> After 10,000+ hours in a Federal prison law library, learning all sorts of 
> Federal law,  I'm as close to being a lawyer as you will likely see, absent a 
> bar-card.
>               Jim Bell
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >On Saturday, November 9, 2019, 12:47:26 PM PST, Razer 
> >wrote:  
> > 
> >This is your answer and China will stomp you if you INTERFERE WITH A
> >CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION too. So will any court system on earth. 
> >
> >Get psychiatric help.
> >
> >"Facebook says it is removing mentions of the alleged whistleblower’s
> >name and will revisit this decision if the name is widely published in
> >the media or used by public figures in debate."
> >
> >On November 9, 2019 10:44:33 AM PST, jim bell 
> >wrote:
> >Facebook is deleting the name of the potential whistleblower
> >
> >I wonder what they mean by "deleting the name"?  Do they mean deleting
> >any posting or comment containing the name 'Eric Ciaramella'?  Or just
> >that name?  Or any posting that says that "Eric Ciaramella is the
> >whistleblower"?
> >This sure sounds like Facebook is adopting the policies of Red China,
> >"The Great Firewall of China".
> >I've got a solution to that problem:  The people who work for Facebook
> >are identifiable, and mortal.
> >
> >Notice that the news source this story came from is "apnews".   How
> >appropriate.
> >             Jim Bell
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> Rr
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Re: Hornberger: "repeal of all drug laws is a necessary pre-requisite for a free society"

[John Newman]

On November 8, 2019 1:06:39 AM UTC, jim bell  wrote:
>On Thursday, November 7, 2019, 04:55:50 PM PST, Zenaan Harkness
> wrote:
> 
> 
> >The only way to end the endless war on drugs, is to actually end the
>war on drugs and legalise all drugs:
>I very much agree with that.
>
> > US Massacre In Mexico Requires Washington To Act, Here's What Could
>  Happen Next
>  [big snip]
>
>  >And the probability of the US government ending the war on drugs is
>  very low. So it's likely that AMLO and Washington will start
>  increasing joint military operations against cartels in the not too
>  distant future.
>
>I think the probability of the US Government quickly and completely
>ending the war on drugs is very low.  But that doesn't mean it won't
>eventually occur.  But way too slowly.   The 'parade of horribles'
>predicted by the legalization of pot is not comining true.  
>

Did anyone actually believe such a prediction? 

All drugs should be legal. Aside from the obvious absurdity of legislating
what substances you can ingest, it's caused incarceration in America, already 
barbaric, 
to rise to the highest per capita rate in the whole fucking world. America 
imprisons 
like ~750 people per 100k, way the fuck above even the countries we constantly
accuse, hypocritically, of human rights violations.

And of course the black market demand creates enormous profits, and
brings enormous violence. Just like alcohol prohibition made the mafia big 
fucking
business. 

The "war on drugs" is one of the nastiest long cons on the American people I 
can think of. Its a great excuse for a police state, a gulag, and made a whole
new class of ultra-violent "narcotrafficante" that is a nice boogey man to 
the south, and who cares really - their violence is mostly south of the border, 
fuck em!  Can't build the wall fast enough! It's a bad fucking joke.





>           Jim Bell
>
>  


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Re: Militia, law, impressment, guns, history

[John Newman]

Thanks!

And keep an eye out fnord the fnords..


On November 7, 2019 4:07:22 AM UTC, Razer  wrote:
>
>
>On November 6, 2019 7:30:02 PM PST, John Newman  wrote:
>
>
>>
>>
>>Ever read Zinn’s A People’s History?  It’s not perfect, but
>interesting..
>
>
>Lottsa other good stuff here:
>https://www.historyisaweapon.com/zinnapeopleshistory.html
>
>Addicted to war http://www.arvindguptatoys.com/arvindgupta/addicted.pdf
>
>and here: https://libcom.org/library
>
>But the bestest truest history of all is here:
>http://vielewelten.at/pdf_en/illuminatus%20trilogy.pdf
>
>Rr
>Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail
>
>
>>
>>Anyway, fuck the “founding fathers”  - they got tired of paying
>>blood profit from the their slave state to King George.
>>
>>The real intentions were making more money, off of the backs of
>>more slaves, and over the corpses of more of america’s native
>>population. 
>>
>>And that’s human history in a nutshell, actually :P


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Re: Militia, law, impressment, guns, history

[John Newman]

> On Nov 4, 2019, at 12:56 PM, jim bell  wrote:
> 
> On Monday, November 4, 2019, 07:52:53 AM PST, Razer  wrote:
> 
> 
> I got ur well-ordered militia hangin' motherfucker, and you get shit.
> 
> California Military Department 
> 
> 
> >You see. You're stupid. You actually BELIEVE the scumbags who founded this 
> >shithole nation had ANY intention of honoring the documents they signed. 
> >They're AssWipe.
> Rr
> 
> 
> Well, THOSE people who wrote the U.S.  Constitution were probably mostly dead 
> by 1830.  Whether they, personally, 'had an intention of honoring those 
> documents', and whether the others who came after did did so, are certainly  
> debatable questions.  But, they are DIFFERENT questions.  
> 
>Jim Bell
> 
> 
> 


Ever read Zinn’s A People’s History?  It’s not perfect, but
interesting..

Anyway, fuck the “founding fathers”  - they got tired of paying
blood profit from the their slave state to King George.

The real intentions were making more money, off of the backs of
more slaves, and over the corpses of more of america’s native
population. 

And that’s human history in a nutshell, actually :P

Re: No, Mr. Busby, there is a Santa Claus.

[John Newman]

On November 5, 2019 7:44:48 AM UTC, grarpamp  wrote:
>> if anyone
>> reading this has their own copies of the 1990s archives, I'd love to
>have
>> them. I can't make any promises about when I'll be able to work on
>> processing them, but rest assured I will take great care of those
>archive
>> files
>
>Similarly, whatever is received here sits pending header anon,
>and merging. Merge msgs to a standard isn't much work
>depending on liberties taken, it's mostly get around to it,
>so the public sources sit pending that too, which seems
>the status of a few such projects that are busied out.
>Now If another nice unix mailbox and or some news spool,
>made its way here, that could be further motivational to lint
>and merge everything... If nothing turns up by year end I
>could reach out to sources, maybe even 1-800-NSA-DISK ;)
>Other old lists could be returned from such queries, but
>are probably already in well known textfiles archives already.
>
>Then there's the GoogleGroups tragedy.
>
>Anyway, if Jim's stuff ever pops up I'll post it.

Maybe the feds have an archive we can FOIA out of them ;)

Haha, doubtful.


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Re: I'm trying to understand site https://mailing-list-archive.cryptoanarchy.wiki/

[John Newman]

I took it in a more whimsical "wtf am I on about" tone myself.

On November 1, 2019 6:03:16 PM UTC, jim bell  wrote:
> I interpreted his comment as being sarcastic.   
>         Jim Bell
>
>On Friday, November 1, 2019, 07:32:27 AM PDT, rooty
> wrote:  
> 
> 
>Are you off your meds again - please stop bullying people on the list.
>
>
>
>
>
> Original Message 
>On Oct 31, 2019, 1:21 PM, Ryan Carboni < rya...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>Assassinations politics come off as one of those blunt metaphors that
>are easily misinterpreted. Jim Bell doesn't seem clever enough to come
>up with it so I think he stole the idea from someone else.
>
>
>  


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Re: journos - Re: Richard Stallman Gets SJW'd

[John Newman]

Thanks  Ceci.  Sorry for missing the part about it being a Brazilian
song, the Oda name threw me off ;)

cheers
John

On October 18, 2019 3:53:26 AM UTC, Cecilia Tanaka  
wrote:
>It's a Brazilian song for kids and John was joking with me, my dear,
>because the original Nobunaga Oda was a brilliant warrior, a good
>strategist, but had no patience and, in several moments, acted like a
>psycho killer.  No mercy.  He killed until the last child of his
>enemies to
>have absolute certain they will never grown up and search for revenge.
>
>It would be fun to imagine Oda singing "The History Of A Kitten" for
>children, but he used to teach his kids to fight until the death, with
>blood, honor, and no mercy.  Sparta feelings, baby!  ;)
>
>=
>
>This song is about freedom, about being really happy.
>
>"História de Uma Gata"
>(Canção de Nara Leão e Os Saltimbancos)
>
>https://youtu.be/u07Td4VPWgA
>
>Me alimentaram
>Me acariciaram
>Me aliciaram
>Me acostumaram
>O meu mundo era o apartamento
>Detefon, almofada e trato
>Todo dia filé-mignon
>Ou mesmo um bom filé... de gato
>Me diziam, todo momento
>Fique em casa, não tome vento
>Mas é duro ficar na sua
>Quando à luz da lua
>Tantos gatos pela rua
>Toda a noite vão cantando assim
>Nós, gatos, já nascemos pobres
>Porém, já nascemos livres
>Senhor, senhora ou senhorio
>Felino, não reconhecerás
>De manhã eu voltei pra casa
>Fui barrada na portaria
>Sem filé e sem almofada
>Por causa da cantoria
>Mas agora o meu dia-a-dia
>É no meio da gataria
>Pela rua virando lata
>Eu sou mais eu, mais gata
>Numa louca serenata
>Que de noite sai cantando assim
>Nós, gatos, já nascemos pobres
>Porém, já nascemos livres
>Senhor, senhora ou senhorio
>Felino, não reconhecerás

Re: journos - Re: Richard Stallman Gets SJW'd

[John Newman]

On October 18, 2019 1:00:54 AM UTC, Cecilia Tanaka  
wrote:
>On Thu, Oct 17, 2019, 17:49 Cecilia Tanaka 
>wrote:
>
>>
>> There is an old Brazilian song for kids that always makes me smile,
>> sweetie...  Its name is "The History Of A Kitten" and my favorite
>verses
>> since my earlier childhood are:
>>
>>
>> "WE, CATS, WERE BORN IN POVERTY
>> HOWEVER, WE WERE BORN FREE!!!
>> MISTER, MISSES, LANDLORD...
>> FELINE, YOU WON'T RECOGNIZE!!!"
>>
>Nobunaga Oda's translation for the last verse sounds much more precise.
> I
>made a too literal and weak translation, and changed it twice before
>posting:
>
>"WE, CATS, WERE BORN IN POVERTY
>HOWEVER, WE WERE BORN FREE!!!
>MISTER, MISSES, LANDLORD...
>WE, FELINES, WON'T RECOGNIZE!!!"
>
>I will try another easier version, Nobunaga...  :)
>
>"WE, CATS, WERE BORN POOR
>HOWEVER, WE WERE BORN FREE!!!
>MISTER, MISSES, LANDLORD...
>WE, FELINES, WON'T RECOGNIZE THEM!!!"
>
>Thanks for the lovely suggestion, dear!!!   Love you and your family!!!
> <3
>
>Take care, please!!!
>
>>

Wow, I had no idea Nobunaga wrote such poetry ;)

I know he almost conquered Japan, was assassinated by one of his
vassals, Akechi Mitsuhide, and his most ruthless vassal Hideyoshi paved
the way for Tokugawa.  And he supposedly really liked sugary treats that
the Portuguese brought over (this was before Ieyasu had locked shit down 
to the secular Dutch - he saw Christianity and hated it).




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Re: Legal circumvention to facial recognition?

[John Newman]

On October 14, 2019 11:53:54 AM UTC, Steven Schear  
wrote:
>"By wearing this mask formed like a lens it possible to become
>unrecognizable for facial recognition software and because of it’s
>transparence you will not lose your identity and facial expressions. So
>it’s still possible to interact with the people around you."
>
>http://jipvanleeuwenstein.nl/

Cops in the US keep shooting people in their own homes, who have 
literally done nothing ... I can just imagine what would happen to
you walking around wearing one of these masks all the time.  Plus, 
your co-workers would be like wtf...

It is cool though ;).  Maybe useful in Hong Kong (except I think mainland
China just outlawed all masks)

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Re: Box for simple Tor node.

[John Newman]

On October 13, 2019 10:32:16 PM UTC, coderman  wrote:
>comments below,
>
>‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
>On Sunday, October 13, 2019 10:15 PM, jim bell 
>wrote:
>...
>
>> This  
>https://www.amazon.com/CanaKit-Raspberry-4GB-Basic-Starter/dp/B07VYC6S56/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=raspberry+pi+4=1571002803=8-5
>appears to be a representative sample of a Raspberry Pi 4 board, in kit
>form, 4 gigabyte of RAM (I guess they must mean SDCard, right, and not
>ordinary SRAM or DRAM?  SD wears out, right?), with cables, a clear
>plastic box.  $85 in quantity one.
>
>there is indeed 4G of LPDDR4 SDRAM on board. you will want to include a
>small fan to avoid throttling while under heavy use. (ah, the kit you
>link includes a fan - excellent!)
>


It would of course need an sd card for the OS install.
There are probably cheaper SoC offerings that are fast
enough, but the rpi4 is a good choice, easy to work with.



>> While hypothetically node operators might receive some sort of
>subsidy (in full or in part) for their internet-service cost, it's also
>plausible that their Internet payment will be their "skin in the game",
>their contribution to the project.  Centurylink offers 1 gigabit/second
>service for $65 plus tax.  The speed itself is only one part of the
>issue.  I think there is no data limit for their 1 gigabit service;
>their slower services may have a 1 terabyte/month limit.
>
>i want to suggest NOT running a Tor node on a residential line.  be
>advised that your service limit is NOT your monthly bandwidth limit! (i
>have gigabit symmetric, but can only use 1TB/month before incurring
>serious overage charges...)  consumer internet is also prone to "TCP
>RST" traffic management (e.g. to fight torrent looking traffic) which
>interrupts circuits, and some ISPs even mangle DNS, which can get your
>relay marked as "BAD".
>


I tend to agree.. if run from residential connections it would
make more sense to not try to use a huge amount of bandwidth,
and running an exit node will almost certainly bring trouble.

Then again, different providers offer and impose different levels of
scrutiny. Whatever the end product is it should be fully configurable,
but at a bare minimum the user should be able to control all the 
bandwidth settings and whether or not it's an exit node in a simple 
fashion.

VPS' are dirt cheap, and can be spun up with Linux or FreeBSD and
tor very quickly and easily. Not quite meeting Jim's requirements,
but it's really not that high a burden of technical knowledge to 
do, for those truly interested...



>see also:
>https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TorRelayGuide#Partone:decidingtorunarelay
>"It is required that a Tor relay be allowed to use a minimum of 100
>GByte of outbound traffic"
>
>> This is a list of proposed 'improvements' to TOR.  
>https://blog.torproject.org/tor-design-proposals-how-we-make-changes-our-protocol
>> No doubt SOMEWHERE there is a list of 'proposed improvements that we
>know the TOR structure will never agree to because they will be
>considered 'too good' '.   Shouldn't we use those, too?   Especially
>those!
>
>Tor has a situation where they must keep compatibility with the
>existing network, or introduce partitioning attacks and compromise the
>anonymity of their users.
>
>this is actually a hard problem - i think the future is in running
>parallel overlays, and routing application level services over the best
>overlay for the given purpose at that time.
>
>for a slew of research beyond Tor, see:
>https://www.freehaven.net/anonbib/
>
>discussing the promising avenues a subject for another thread... :)
>
>best regards,


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Re: Box for simple Tor node.

[John Newman]

On October 12, 2019 2:11:59 AM UTC, John Newman  wrote:
>
>
>On October 11, 2019 9:53:10 PM UTC, jim bell 
>wrote:
>>On Friday, October 11, 2019, 02:26:27 PM PDT, John Newman
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 09:05:00PM +, jim bell wrote:
>>> Somebody asked me a question, but because I am far from being an
>>expert, I couldn't answer.   Suppose a person wanted to implement a
>TOR
>>node, simply by buying some box, and plugging it into his modem, and
>>power.  And NOT needing to become an expert on TOR, or even on
>>computers in general.  And NOT having to follow pages and pages of
>>instructions.   I did a few minutes of searching, and even the
>'simple'
>>explanations seemed 'clear as mud'. 
>>> Don't bother with long explanations challenging the usefulness, or
>>trustworthiness of TOR.   Yes, we've discussed them to death.  That's
>a
>>different subject.                    Jim Bell
>>
>>>On FreeBSD, it's as simple as running the following commands as root
>>
>>># install tor
>> pkg install tor
>>
>>># set appropriate variables, there aren't too many to get going and
>># you can find them all well documented 
>> vi /usr/local/etc/tor/torrc
>>
>>># update your rc.conf so the service will start at boot, then start
>it
>> sysrc tor_enable=YES
>> service tor start
>>
>>>For an idea of what the torrc file should look like, here is mine
>with
>>a
>>few bits XXX'd out. My node is specifically configured not to allow
>>exit
>>traffic because it was generating a lot of complaints upstream about
>my
>>host trying to hack peoples shit, etc :)  
>>
>>># cat /usr/local/etc/tor/torrc | egrep -v "^$|^#"
>>SocksPort 9050
>>SocksPolicy accept 127.0.0.1
>>SocksPolicy reject *
>>Log notice file /var/log/tor/notices.log
>>RunAsDaemon 1
>>DataDirectory /var/db/tor
>>ControlPort 9051
>>HashedControlPassword XX
>>ORPort 9023
>>Exitpolicy reject *:*  # too many complaints :)
>>Nickname twentysevendollars
>>Address wintermute.synfin.org
>>OutboundBindAddress 198.154.106.54
>>RelayBandwidthRate 3265 KBytes  # playing with this
>>RelayBandwidthBurst 4355 KBytes # ditto
>>ContactInfo 0CA8B961 John Torman 
>>DirPort 9030 # what port to advertise for directory connections
>>MyFamily X
>>
>>
>>>If you were doing this on Linux, it would be much the same. Replace
>>the
>>"pkg install" with "apt-get install" or "yum install" or whatever, you
>>might have to add a tor repo or something. The config file probably
>>won't live under /usr/local/etc/tor, but just /etc/tor, and you'll use
>>systemctl rather than just updating the rc.conf with sysrc.
>>
>>>I would not recommend you run an exit node from your home ;)
>>
>>
>>Yes, even years ago I was aware that a person shouldn't try to run an
>>Exit node on a home setup.  Although, I wonder if it has been tried? 
>> Sounds like a good beginning for a Wired article?   After writing
>>that, I found:   https://blog.torproject.org/tips-running-exit-node   
>>   No way!!!
>>
>>But you didn't answer my question.  I said a simple box, and that is
>>precisely what I meant.   Power, Ethernet.  Plug into existing
>>Modem.   Okay, I would understand it if the operator had to link it to
>>the network by accessing a web page and informing them of the new IP
>>address, but that's the level of complexity I was thinking about. 
>>(Except for a box that already "knows" how to link up and start
>>running.)
>>Could one of the problems with the TOR network be that only "experts"
>>are likely to participate?
>>Also note:  I am referring to a situation where a person does not
>need,
>>and does not want, the benefit of TOR for himself;  Just wants to add
>>his "brick in the wall" to the nodes.  Has a spare $100 or so for the
>>box, and has unlimited-usage gigabit/second Internet service.  (I see
>>that Centurylink provides them for $65/month, probably subject to tax,
>>as well.)
>>                   Jim Bell  
>
>What you are describing, if it doesn't already exist, would be trivial
>to code for Windows (assuming standard tor binaries will run, win10 
>has fucking WSL or whatever, anyway im sure it does) or MacOS or
>Linux..  like the tor browser, but even simpler: just a little
>graphical
>applet that generates a torrc and starts up the tor daemon. Even makes 
>sure whatever software firewall you are using has the right holes in it
>;)
>
>I don't know of such an app but kinda surprised it doesn't exist.

A more appropriate answer to your question would actually be
a pi or some SoC board with bare bones Linux or BSD OS and a version
of the little Tor wrapper app I described that had a really simple web
interfere and ran under e.g. nginx and php (or whatever).  Put in a nice
case with an onion stamped on top.

And if that's really the only feature you wanted, I guess that's 
all it would do ;)

No one is selling such hardware mass produced.


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Re: Box for simple Tor node.

[John Newman]

On October 11, 2019 9:53:10 PM UTC, jim bell  wrote:
>On Friday, October 11, 2019, 02:26:27 PM PDT, John Newman
> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 09:05:00PM +, jim bell wrote:
>> Somebody asked me a question, but because I am far from being an
>expert, I couldn't answer.   Suppose a person wanted to implement a TOR
>node, simply by buying some box, and plugging it into his modem, and
>power.  And NOT needing to become an expert on TOR, or even on
>computers in general.  And NOT having to follow pages and pages of
>instructions.   I did a few minutes of searching, and even the 'simple'
>explanations seemed 'clear as mud'. 
>> Don't bother with long explanations challenging the usefulness, or
>trustworthiness of TOR.   Yes, we've discussed them to death.  That's a
>different subject.                    Jim Bell
>
>>On FreeBSD, it's as simple as running the following commands as root
>
>># install tor
> pkg install tor
>
>># set appropriate variables, there aren't too many to get going and
># you can find them all well documented 
> vi /usr/local/etc/tor/torrc
>
>># update your rc.conf so the service will start at boot, then start it
> sysrc tor_enable=YES
> service tor start
>
>>For an idea of what the torrc file should look like, here is mine with
>a
>few bits XXX'd out. My node is specifically configured not to allow
>exit
>traffic because it was generating a lot of complaints upstream about my
>host trying to hack peoples shit, etc :)  
>
>># cat /usr/local/etc/tor/torrc | egrep -v "^$|^#"
>SocksPort 9050
>SocksPolicy accept 127.0.0.1
>SocksPolicy reject *
>Log notice file /var/log/tor/notices.log
>RunAsDaemon 1
>DataDirectory /var/db/tor
>ControlPort 9051
>HashedControlPassword XX
>ORPort 9023
>Exitpolicy reject *:*  # too many complaints :)
>Nickname twentysevendollars
>Address wintermute.synfin.org
>OutboundBindAddress 198.154.106.54
>RelayBandwidthRate 3265 KBytes  # playing with this
>RelayBandwidthBurst 4355 KBytes # ditto
>ContactInfo 0CA8B961 John Torman 
>DirPort 9030 # what port to advertise for directory connections
>MyFamily X
>
>
>>If you were doing this on Linux, it would be much the same. Replace
>the
>"pkg install" with "apt-get install" or "yum install" or whatever, you
>might have to add a tor repo or something. The config file probably
>won't live under /usr/local/etc/tor, but just /etc/tor, and you'll use
>systemctl rather than just updating the rc.conf with sysrc.
>
>>I would not recommend you run an exit node from your home ;)
>
>
>Yes, even years ago I was aware that a person shouldn't try to run an
>Exit node on a home setup.  Although, I wonder if it has been tried? 
> Sounds like a good beginning for a Wired article?   After writing
>that, I found:   https://blog.torproject.org/tips-running-exit-node   
>   No way!!!
>
>But you didn't answer my question.  I said a simple box, and that is
>precisely what I meant.   Power, Ethernet.  Plug into existing
>Modem.   Okay, I would understand it if the operator had to link it to
>the network by accessing a web page and informing them of the new IP
>address, but that's the level of complexity I was thinking about. 
>(Except for a box that already "knows" how to link up and start
>running.)
>Could one of the problems with the TOR network be that only "experts"
>are likely to participate?
>Also note:  I am referring to a situation where a person does not need,
>and does not want, the benefit of TOR for himself;  Just wants to add
>his "brick in the wall" to the nodes.  Has a spare $100 or so for the
>box, and has unlimited-usage gigabit/second Internet service.  (I see
>that Centurylink provides them for $65/month, probably subject to tax,
>as well.)
>                   Jim Bell  

What you are describing, if it doesn't already exist, would be trivial
to code for Windows (assuming standard tor binaries will run, win10 
has fucking WSL or whatever, anyway im sure it does) or MacOS or
Linux..  like the tor browser, but even simpler: just a little graphical
applet that generates a torrc and starts up the tor daemon. Even makes 
sure whatever software firewall you are using has the right holes in it ;)

I don't know of such an app but kinda surprised it doesn't exist.




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Re: Shysters thrive on preen, preaching and exaggeration.

[John Newman]

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 09:01:28AM -0400, John Young wrote:
> Stallman is petty example of ego gone rogue, then claiming to be
> misunderstood, drag out whines to smoke the air, Trump a prime polluter, but
> many others in centers of power in homes to holy sees.
> 
> Adulterers and politicians excel at this but are joined by a host of haughty
> abusers in all fields. Even on this pure-hearted list shysters thrive on
> prejudice, preen, preaching and exaggeration.
> 
> Quite common for the famous, infamous,notorious, obessed, drunkard, dope
> addict,

I think "rich" or "talented" would need to come before "drunkard" or
"dope addict" in that line to make any sense :P  I've known a few
junkies, and they (like everyone else) exist on a spectrum. The only ones
I ever knew to profiteer sexually from it were the ones who also sold the shit, 
aka those lucky few known as "the man". (and, no, I do not have 27 dollars 
in my hand :P)

> rich, talented, to presume sexual privileges and monetary profits
> from those who admire them, their work, performance, braggardy, promotion,
> self-advertising.
> 
> Faithful, fans, subjects, citizens, voters, revolutionaries, diehards,
> warriors, slaves, why even SM followers, are seduced to be screwed by
> imaginary promises of shared glory and belonging to movements and beliefs of
> confidence artists, priests, Ponzis, prevaricators, presidents.
> 
> From royalty to religion to banditry to warmaking to profiteering to, god
> help us, coding, abusive randiness goes with abusive success, earned or
> stolen or faked, all the last.
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Box for simple Tor node.

[John Newman]

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 09:05:00PM +, jim bell wrote:
> Somebody asked me a question, but because I am far from being an expert, I 
> couldn't answer.   Suppose a person wanted to implement a TOR node, simply by 
> buying some box, and plugging it into his modem, and power.  And NOT needing 
> to become an expert on TOR, or even on computers in general.  And NOT having 
> to follow pages and pages of instructions.   I did a few minutes of 
> searching, and even the 'simple' explanations seemed 'clear as mud'. 
> Don't bother with long explanations challenging the usefulness, or 
> trustworthiness of TOR.   Yes, we've discussed them to death.  That's a 
> different subject.                    Jim Bell

On FreeBSD, it's as simple as running the following commands as root

# install tor
 pkg install tor

# set appropriate variables, there aren't too many to get going and
# you can find them all well documented 
 vi /usr/local/etc/tor/torrc

# update your rc.conf so the service will start at boot, then start it
 sysrc tor_enable=YES
 service tor start

For an idea of what the torrc file should look like, here is mine with a
few bits XXX'd out. My node is specifically configured not to allow exit
traffic because it was generating a lot of complaints upstream about my
host trying to hack peoples shit, etc :)  

# cat /usr/local/etc/tor/torrc | egrep -v "^$|^#"
SocksPort 9050
SocksPolicy accept 127.0.0.1
SocksPolicy reject *
Log notice file /var/log/tor/notices.log
RunAsDaemon 1
DataDirectory /var/db/tor
ControlPort 9051
HashedControlPassword XX
ORPort 9023
Exitpolicy reject *:*  # too many complaints :)
Nickname twentysevendollars
Address wintermute.synfin.org
OutboundBindAddress 198.154.106.54
RelayBandwidthRate 3265 KBytes  # playing with this
RelayBandwidthBurst 4355 KBytes # ditto
ContactInfo 0CA8B961 John Torman 
DirPort 9030 # what port to advertise for directory connections
MyFamily X


If you were doing this on Linux, it would be much the same. Replace the
"pkg install" with "apt-get install" or "yum install" or whatever, you
might have to add a tor repo or something. The config file probably
won't live under /usr/local/etc/tor, but just /etc/tor, and you'll use
systemctl rather than just updating the rc.conf with sysrc.

I would not recommend you run an exit node from your home ;)


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Re: Is Joe Biden guilty of obstruction of justice?

[John Newman]

On October 9, 2019 9:26:47 PM UTC, jim bell  wrote:
> 
>
>On Wednesday, October 9, 2019, 01:52:57 PM PDT, Peter Fairbrother
> wrote:  
> 
> On 09/10/2019 21:02, jim bell wrote:
>>> I try to avoid posting "political" issues, or at least initiating
>them, 
>>> but Joe Biden just called for Trump to be impeached because Trump
>called 
>>> on Ukraine and China to investigate him, Joe Biden. >
>>> I wonder why this doesn't qualify as "attempted obstruction of 
>>> justice".  
>
>>Not even if Biden is guilty of something (for which we have 
>>approximately zero evidence) and was trying to hide it.
>
>>Trump was not performing the lawful investigative act of a Government 
>official - whether or not his motive was purely the administration of 
>justice, his act is clearly and specifically illegal under US election 
>law - therefore obstructing that unlawful act cannot be obstruction of
>justice.
>Could you cite which specific part of US election law" that Trump's
>action was "clearly and specifically illegal"?
>And I notice you said "US election law".   We're not having an election
>now, at least not for about 13 months.  How does this magic "US
>election law" guide what somebody says 13 months prior to an election?
>(Note:  I'm not suggesting that "US election law" cannot possibly
>apply, due to this 13-month distance in time.   But Biden is not yet
>even a nominee, and hardly even an official candidate, for office.  Are
>you saying that if Trump had asked a foreign country to investigate
>merely an ordinary citizen for a possible crime, that WOULDN'T be a
>problem under "US election laws", merely because that ordinary citizen
>isn't a candidate in an election?   That simply doesn't make sense.
>Remember, when Hillary Clinton had her law firm Perkin Coie hire
>FusionGPS to hire Christopher Steele to talk to many Russians, Donald
>Trump was DEFINITELY a candidate.  And soon enough, the FBI became
>involved.  So wasn't THAT an act which was "clearly and specifically
>illegal under US election law".   I know, consistency's a bitch, huh?
>C'mon, let's use some logic here.  
>
>>In a few other jurisdictions it might be considered to be perverting
>the 
>course of justice - but it is not obstruction of justice as defined 
>under US law, which is obstructing the lawful judicial actions of 
>prosecutors, investigators or other Government officials.
>
>Is it legal for Trump to ask a foreign nation to do a criminal
>investigation?   I'm not aware that it is specifically illegal.  It
>isn't a crime, I think,   It's not REQUIRED, of course, but that
>doesn't mean that what Biden said was not (attempted) obstruction of
>justice.
>
>
>
>>If you have been following the Brexit implosion, there is a law here 
>which says that (under some circumstances) Boris must ask the EU for an
>
>extension, which Boris has said he will not do, and also that he will. 
>He definitely doesn't want to.
>
>>It has been suggested that he might ask a EU country to refuse the 
>extension as a way of getting round the law. However if he did, and it 
>meant Brexit happened, anyone who was in any way disadvantaged by
>Brexit 
>could then sue Boris, as his action as Prime Minister would not have 
>been lawful.
>
>I'm not sure how that's relevant in this case
>
>>What was it Nixon said? "Well, when the President does it, that means 
>that it is not illegal."
>Just because Nixon said something, that neither definitely makes it
>right, nor makes it wrong.  
>
>>Nope, thankfully it doesn't work like that.
>
>Neither does it, the other way around.  
>
>                     Jim Bell  

So which way does it work? Is it illegal unless the president does it?
Well, obviously, if he can get away with it, then yes! It's all palace intrigue 
amongst self interested elites and the winner makes the "rules".

I don't know why Jim is pretending any of this shit has any "legal"
grounding. It's internecine warfare because the king got a little too
vulgar. You can loot the the little guy all day long, but at least be 
half-ass fucking articulate, and for that matter half ass competent,
when twisting the screws.



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Re: CP shadow banning - was Re: Vegas - alleged "Stephen Paddock shooting" - Fwd: What Happens in Vegas Stays in Vegas - Port Arthur - Assange - Dmitry Sklyarov

[John Newman]

On Tue, Oct 08, 2019 at 11:09:35PM -0300, Punk wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 11:46:08 +1100
> Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> 
> .
> > 
> > There's a meme - it's a Trump meme but it's very apt, in its essence,
> > re the state of things at the moment: dark tones picture of Trump
> > staring and pointing like "Uncle Sam" and his caption "They're really
> > after you, I'm just in their way".
> 
>   you misspelled the caption. It actually says "They're really after you 
> and I'm their supreme leader" 
> 

Z**n likes Trump's rhetoric on nationalism and his general
anti-immigration stance and probably all his crazy torture schemes, etc.

I remember, I think this was before I filtered all his email, Z*n once
wrote a fucking paean to Putin. I suspect (I don't read his email
anymore) he feels the same way about Trump.  Kinda funny re-reading that 
old Putin love-letter - I think some of Putin's shirtless manly "just a
regular badass despot" pics must've got Z*n all excitable the day he wrote 
this:

https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-October/039918.html

"One thing the naysayers against Putin have failed so far to produce,
is any evidence - that is, actual facts - in support of anything
other than Putin as a genuine and heartfelt man who cares
passionately for his country and further not only for the Russian
people both in Russia and the diaspora abroad, but for all humans on
this planet."  

- ROFL -
 

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Re: OpenPGP Mozilla to kill Enigmail, Elliptic Crypto, XRay Decapping, Exhausting CD Ripping Structures, Nuclear Farts

[John Newman]

On Wed, Oct 09, 2019 at 12:50:49PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:OpenPGP:2020
> https://neomutt.org/
> https://www.mailpile.is/
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claws_Mail
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnus
> Horde-IMP, SquirrellMail, RoundCube
> 
> https://fangpenlin.com/posts/2019/10/07/elliptic-curve-cryptography-explained/
> 
> https://spectrum.ieee.org/nanoclast/semiconductors/design/xray-tech-lays-chip-secrets-bare
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21181889
> 
> https://byuu.net/compact-discs/structure
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21185897
> 
> https://www.newsweek.com/methane-boiling-sea-discovered-siberia-1463766
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21199317


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Re: iPhone charger hacking device developed by cybersecurity researcher

[John Newman]

Any url you send from the "news break" app diverts readers to
the "news break" app installer, to read the whole article.

Just use trusty copy and paste if you wanna share a link ;)



On October 3, 2019 10:03:42 PM UTC, jim bell  wrote:
>Okay, how will I know this based on what I can see?   I'd like to NOT
>do what you object to, but I don't know how to determine what is going
>on,
>            Jim Bell
>
>On Thursday, October 3, 2019, 11:36:28 AM PDT, Razer 
>wrote:  
> 
>Because it isn't a link to the article. It's CLICKBAIT to get suxers to
>install an app.
>
>On October 3, 2019 10:26:09 AM PDT, Jim Bell 
>wrote:
>Okay, can you explain what I should do, or not do?  
>On Oct 3, 2019 9:35 AM, Razer  wrote:
>
>
>Stop sending links to articles that are really links to an app
>installation page, K?
>
>Use the app your own fucking self to go to the link and send the damn
>link to the article.
>
>https://www.mic.com/p/iphone-charger-hacking-device-developed-by-cybersecurity-researcher-18815970
>
>Ps. This news broke in AUGUST. I hope you didn't have to pay for that
>app. It seems a little "Slow".
>https://techcrunch.com/2019/08/12/iphone-charging-cable-hack-computer-def-con/
>
>
>Rr
>Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail
>
>
>
>On October 3, 2019 1:14:58 AM PDT, jim bell  wrote:
>>https://www.newsbreakapp.com/n/0MzB0h8z?s=a3=02h1yVjC
>>
>>iPhone charger hacking device developed by cybersecurity researcher
>>
>>Mic
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>A cybersecurity researcher has successfully found a means to mass
>>produce an Apple iPhone charging cable lookalike that can allow a
>>hacker to remotely access someone else's computer, reported Vice. When
>>a victim uses the cable to connect a device to their computer — for
>>everyday reasons like charging or transferring files — a hacker can
>>jump onto the connection to gain access. Once the intruder has access
>>to the computer, they can run commands and rummage through your data.
>>
>>Shared from News Break 
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Libertarian Economic Logic (chart attached)

[John Newman]

On September 18, 2019 5:18:08 AM UTC, grarpamp  wrote:
>On 9/17/19, Punk  wrote:
>> Dude get a couple of books. One on political
>> philosophy, the other on economics.
>
>If you actually bothered to list your books,
>people might actually bother to pick them
>up and read them.
>
>So what exactly is your top 5 reading
>list of books for people to read?
>

I'd be interested in this list. I haven't read Bakunin or 
Kropotkin since  high school? 
 


>> rest of garbage ignored.
>
>Otherwise, yes, that's what many of your
>potential readers are likely to do.


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Re: The cultural turn in intelligence studies

[John Newman]

Im not quite old enough for the Prisoner, or it's
precursor, but it sounds cool in a David Lynch sorta
way... 

The Americans is the only "spy show" I ever watched, it 
was kinda fucking silly, but still pretty good. Watching 
Soviet "illegals" trying to take down the odious American
Empire in Reagan years was a decent conceit ;)



On August 22, 2019 3:56:25 AM UTC, Razer  wrote:
>
>
>On August 21, 2019 7:51:43 PM PDT, rooty 
>wrote:
>>Are you really over 60. OMG that is flippen agent you could be my
>grate
>>grate grampa.
>>
>
>I'm older still and I remember the rollover from, in the US, "Secret
>Agent", to The Prisoner, which I thought was VERY excellent even when I
>was a kid.
>
>You'll note the one recurring theme throughout the whole series. There
>was NO ONE #6 could trust. Ever. On reading Steve's details I've seen
>slightly different show creation narratives but one thing I know...
>McGoohan was DRIVEN to do this. He was willing to fund it out of his
>own pocket if necessary. Whatever that 'argument with the chief' was
>about in the last episode (all you hear is thunder) was in some way,
>irl, connected to his drive to get the prisoner on the air.
>
>
>I believe all the prisoner episodes are on youtube. I torrented the
>collection a few years ago. There's also a number of interviews with
>McGoohan about it on Youtube and quite detailed sociological analyses
>of the overall show and episodes floating around the intertubz as well.
>
>Ps. The only spy show on the air at the time that was better? Get
>Smart... or maybe I just had the prepubescent hots for 99.
>
>Rr
>Har Har.
>
>
>> Original Message 
>>On Aug 21, 2019, 3:50 PM, jim bell wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019, 12:35:46 PM PDT, Steve Kinney
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 8/18/19 8:05 PM, coderman wrote:

  The cultural turn in intelligence studies

> Simon Willmetts
> correspondences.d.willme...@fgga.leidenuniv.nl
> View further author information
> Pages 800-817 | Published online: 23 May 2019
>>>
My small contribution comes in at only 1400 words:
>>>
The Prisoner: An Introduction
>>>
The Prisoner is one of the most iconic and surrealistic, if not
>>> psychedelic, products of the 1960s "golden age" of television.  An
>>angry
>>> secret agent returns home from hand delivering his letter of
>>> resignation, when he is immediately gassed by an undertaker in top
>>hat
>>> and tails.  He regains consciousness in his own bed but when he
>looks
>>> out his window he discovers that he is no longer home at all:  He is
>>in
>>> The Village, a deceptively idyllic holiday resort that is actually a
>>> high tech prison for spies.  At once the games begin.
>>>
>>> I am actually old enough (61) to remember watching The Prisoner
>>first-run.  It was clearly quite different than typical American fare.
>>>
>>> Jim Bell
>
>Rr
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Re: Ftr.

[John Newman]

On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 10:59:48AM -0500, \0xDynamite wrote:
> >> Juan, I think you said you use claws mail, there is a gpg
> >> plugin, though Ive never used it. Only if you give a shit of
> >> course ;)
> >>
> >> https://www.claws-mail.org/plugin.php?plugin=gpg
> >
> > Yes, thanks. The thing is, I'm not too keen on signing messages because 
> > I
> > don't want to provide cryptographic proof of me writing stuff like : "the US
> > government (and all other governments) must be exterminated" ^-^  - Signing
> > is a double edged sword...


Yeah, I've considered that, but I choose to own my words. Fuck 'em :)


> 
> That's a pretty good point.  It's hard to say you didn't say it and
> was merely victimized by spoofersheheh
> 
> After talking to folks while at MIT, I sorta concluded that privacy
> was the wrong focus anyways -- it's better to make a rocking world and
> show everyone that you know better.
> 
> Marxos

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Re: PCR: “It's open season on ZenNazi”

[John Newman]

On August 17, 2019 12:35:38 AM UTC, jam...@echeque.com wrote:
 your bar is pretty low. Majority of countries are better than the
>US,
>
>>> Where?
>
>> US has the highest incarceration rate on the planet. Any country is
>freer than the US. Next.
>
>Most of those are blacks, and most of those blacks are descended from 
>those that their home country did not want wandering around for much
>the 
>same reasons as we do not want their descendants wandering around.


You're so fucking disingenuous, or maybe just so fucking
stupid, you don't think the effects of enslavement have 
rippled out to the modern day? There's a reason black
people are over represented in things like extrajudicial
killings (murder by pig), and incarceration, and those 
reasons are (a) racist assholes like you and (b) a system 
that already grinds the little guy down has ground the little 
black guy even harder for even longer, with no appreciation
for the fact that the wealth of these "United States" were 
built on the bloody whipped backs of those self same 
people.



>The incarceration rate for whites is similar to that of most white 
>countries.
>
>>> The US is as free or freer than any white country,
>
>>  like I said I won't bother with rankings.
>
>What white countries have you been to?
>
>
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Re: PCR: “It's open season on ZenNazi”

[John Newman]

On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 03:22:15PM -0300, Punk wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Aug 2019 17:41:33 +0800
> jam...@echeque.com wrote:
> 
> > On 2019-08-13 4:14 pm, Cecilia Tanaka wrote:
> > > It is NOT fine to ANY person to be rude, being orange, white, black, 
> > > yellow, red, green, blue, violet, rainbow, et al.
> > 
> > On the contrary, it is totally OK to be rude to white people.
> > 
> > Look at all the murderous hatred spewed against white people on twitter 
> > and facebook. 
> 
> 
>   Tell me James, who created and who controls twitter and facebook and 
> all the infrastructure that enables those honeypots? Yeah, it was 'white 
> people' 
> 
>   Further, tell me what's the color of the skin of the vast majority of 
> politicians, cops, soldiers, bankers, CIA, NSA, or any other branch of YOUR 
> govcorp? Look! It's white as well! 
> 
>   I can see exactly what you are doing james. Just like the white jews 
> hysterically whining about 'antisemitism', you are playing the victim while 
> looting and destroying the whole world.
> 
> 
> PS : I suggest you get a history book and learn about  the portuguese empire, 
> dutch empire, spanish empire, british empire. Oh and don't forget the roman 
> empire, americunt empire, slavery in the USA, apartheid in the USA, and the 
> very creation of the USA by slave owners like jefferson, washington, 
> franklin, henry and all the rest. All of them...white european scum.
> 

James is a bitter, crazy old fuck, a member of a bunch of dumb assholes
who call themselves "neo-reactionaries", who wants to be able to enforce
a patriarchy with Donald Trump as the "God Emperor" and
I won't go on, I feel the vomit rising up. 


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Re: Most of the World’s Problems are Caused by a Lack of Racism - [PEACE]

[John Newman]

On August 9, 2019 2:01:25 AM UTC, Michael Motes  wrote:
>Without a race, there will be no individuals of that race, optimal
>biological partners are third and fourth cousins, see "An Association
>Between the Kinship and Fertility of Human Couples", they have the most
>healthy babies. Outbreeding is breeding without one's "race" which
>could be defined to be really 6th cousins and beyond, and it's a thing
>that can be as genetically dangerous as inbreeding which is breeding
>with siblings and 1st cousins.
>


Now that, Case once said in Chiba City, that is so much bullshit. 

There is no evidence for outbreeding depression in
humans. Go post this shit on blog.jim.com or the 
daily shitter forums, and take Z*n with you (if indeed
I'm not talking to Z*n, I haven't looked at the headers).


>ht hi I'mtps://science.sciencemag.org/content/319/5864/813
>
>I think the idea it is possible to blend all races successfully without
>simply causing mass unfitness and mass defects in anything less than
>ten thousand years is mere imperial delusions of grandeur spurred on by
>madmen's pride.
>
>nuntius interficere non, fortes fortuna iuvat


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Re: Life Extension Research

[John Newman]

On August 8, 2019 8:28:22 PM UTC, grarpamp  wrote:
>On 8/8/19, John Newman  wrote:
>> sci-fi
>> sitting on ass
>
>Point is that sci-fi will always remain sci-fi
>unless people put down the sci-fi book and
>start getting up off their ass to make it happen,
>or at least contribute directly to what they read.
>

This is a different phrasing, actually a different 
point, than I originally replied to.

My point, and my only point, is that this shit makes
for good sci-fi whether I sit on my ass or not, and
whether any of it ever happens or not.  Maybe you
didn't mean it that way, but the way you qualified my
statement "it makes for good sci-fi" with  "ONLY IF
you sit on your ass doing nothing about it" is 
nonsense. It makes for good sci-fi, full stop.

As to the statement about it always remaining sf
unless people act, of course if all the engineers and
coders and scientists in the world quit working en
masse then progress will stop. But I don't see that
happening. I know I need a fucking paycheck ;)
(not that I'm working on the fountain of youth or 
anything)

Anyway I think we started talking past each other.

>Live long and prosper.

Catch you later, in the dark near the Tannhauser gate,
where the C-beams glitter ;)


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Re: Life Extension Research

[John Newman]

On Wed, Aug 07, 2019 at 11:16:50PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> On 8/7/19, John Newman  wrote:>

/*  SNIP - I was being "semi-facetious" in my original reply,
although this stuff does really interest me, and I basically
agree with most of your reply & may craft a full reply, to your
reply, at a later date :P   */

> > It makes for good sci-fi.
> 
> Only if you sit on your ass doing nothing about it.
> Instead of reading it, ignore shit and try creating and living it.

WHOA - I have to disagree, in fact I'd say you're wrong. Whether
or not these tropes make for good sci-fi, which they most definitely
do, is totally orthogonal to me sitting on my ass (with or without
thumb inserted).

cheers,
John

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Re: Life Extension Research

[John Newman]

 

On August 7, 2019 7:13:01 PM UTC, grarpamp  wrote:
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_extension
>
>https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jan/11/-sp-live-forever-extend-life-calico-google-longevity
>https://newatlas.com/alkahest-young-blood-plasma-alzheimers-cognitive-decline/60927/
Gr>https://www.calicolabs.com/
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genetics_research_organizations
>https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/nov/26/worlds-first-gene-edited-babies-created-in-china-claims-scientist
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing_Genomics_Institute
>https://cdn1.sph.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/43/2012/10/China-Genetic-Resources-Guidance.docx
>
>
>The basic science and technology needed to start
>investigating large areas of the problem space
>has been coming online over the last decade or so.
>Another ten should start to see much larger
>research efforts and distributed througout the world.
>
>The same as it chooses to eat and stitch up
>its wounds to live, Humans are wired to forever
>seek fixes to death where it can. And it now knows
>that much much more lies beyond its former magic
>and methods of bronze age scalpels and space age
>nuclear radiation, that the entire field of bioscience
>and bioengineering is still completely unexplored, that
>any given year's brick walls therein are likely penetrable.
>Thus it will do so, more and more now, at speed.

You think we'll be able to map the relevant structure of a
human brain and convert and run it on a different 
substrate (e.g. a computer) BEFORE or AFTER we have 
biological solutions that let us live forever (barring some
accident)  ?  Until we have the former and can run a brain 
as a VM with copies stashed in data centers all over the 
world (solar system), then biological death is still a danger 
(a certainty over the right time scale, although heat death
gets everything in the end).

Of course, with all these advances we make, other shit 
slows us down.  Antibiotic resistance (and other treatment
resistant forms of disease) are becoming a serious 
problem. The Earth is being ravaged, various existential
threats lurk around several corners, it's all a big race 
really.

It makes for good sci-fi.

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Re: Amazon Ring Neighbors app sends video to police departments

[John Newman]

On Mon, Aug 05, 2019 at 04:36:20AM +, jim bell wrote:
> https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/02/amazon-ring-neighbors-app-sends-video-to-police-departments.html
> 
> ---
> SmartNews
> http://bit.ly/smartnews-app
> 

Yeah it's nuts right? I sent something out about this a little while
ago. They give you installation discounts if you agree to send your
camera footage straight to the local cop station Jesus fucking
christ, just install the telescreens in our houses already? Trump or
some fascimile can do a reasonable Big Brother I imagine.

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Re: Cloudflare terminates services for 8Chan

[John Newman]

On August 5, 2019 4:36:46 AM UTC, Razer  wrote:
>Shooters will have to find another place to boast about their little
>incel thingies...
>https://new.blog.cloudflare.com/terminating-service-for-8chan/
>
>Rr
>Sent from my Androgyne dee-vice with K-9 Mail

I say fuck cloudflare and fuck 8chan too. Honestly, they deserve 
each other, not sure why they can't get along ;)



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Re: Apple Card will not allow purchase of cryptocurrencies

[John Newman]

On August 3, 2019 4:18:59 PM UTC, jim bell  wrote:
>Apple Card will not allow purchase of cryptocurrencies
>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-card-not-allowp 

Surprise, surprise heh ;)

The shitty thing, for me, is macOS is actually a pretty
decent UNIX laptop & workstation OS. It sure as fuck is not
all FOSS, but large portions of it are. I don't know why they 
invented APFS instead of using ZFS, and I don't like the
tight iCloud integration (which is at least optional), 
and lots of other technical quibbles, but basically it's been
a good desktop UNIX over the years. (I don't like iPhones 
at all, have always preferred Android device with a custom
ROM - or a cheap burner phone).

However, I'm finally switching to Linux for the laptop
(main desktop switched back to Linux a while ago, and
have used FreeBSD on personal servers for many years).
Most of my time is spent inside of a shell in tmux
anyway!


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Re: My demands

[John Newman]

On August 2, 2019 5:14:00 PM UTC, Ryan Carboni <33...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>I have no interest in money, I wish to get on with my life. If the
>government will admit to violating my rights through entrapment,
>through outrageous government conduct designed to force me to have
>emotional distress, then I will waive all claims against them and any
>co-conspirators in this civil conspiracy.
>
>The government has:
>-spoofed communications from unaffiliated parties from which they can
>be no reasonable suspicion of them committing crimes.
>-altered emails within my inbox.
>-altered outgoing communications from my computer.
>-alternatively borked or bricked household devices for no investigative
>purpose
>-refuse to admit to an investigation while making me aware of the
>investigation for the sole purpose of harassing me
>-made mocking communications to me through their informants, for which
>there can be no investigative purpose or which there can be no
>expectation that it would yield an actionable result
>-cooperated with the LAPD to arrest me under false pretenses
>-concealed the existence of the investigation for the sole purpose of
>preventing an actionable claim against their unconstitutional conduct
>-is aware that the government’s conduct is so outrageous it would
>preclude prosecuting me, thus self-confirming there is no investigative
>purpose to the conduct
>
>If the government admits to that, admits to the truth, it will all go
>away. Does the US government really intend to spend billions, tens of
>billions, hundreds of billions, to accomplish literally nothing?
>
>Sent from ProtonMail Mobile


I had a close friend who started feeling similarly targeted 
in his mid-20s. I actually helped him convert a bedroom 
and some other areas into faraday cages and he more or
less stopped getting online for a while. It helped him, at 
least for a bit

Ultimately he started taking some neuroleptics and most
of his problems went away, or he stopped noticing them
anyway ;) Not that I'm suggesting anything, just what he
ended up doing.


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Re: Cryptocurrency: Music

[John Newman]

On August 2, 2019 9:54:04 PM UTC, Cecilia Tanaka  
wrote:
>Baby, today you need more than all these songs to take me to musical
>orgasms...  ;)
>
>Tool's discography is available to stream on Spotify, Apple Music,
>SoundCloud, Tidal, and YouTube since today, woohooo!!!  All the albums,
>pumpkin, yay!!!  <3

They finally gave in ;).  Of course, their albums have been
available other ways since the dawn of file sharing




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Re: Censors steer cryptogra...@metzdowd.com mailing list, kill free and open discussion

[John Newman]

On July 31, 2019 5:50:06 PM UTC, Greg Newby  wrote:
>On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 12:02:26PM +0000, John Newman wrote:
>> List archives are down - the website is going to the gutenberg vhost.
>
>(This report is from last Friday)
>
>Did anyone else encounter problems? Or, more importantly, are there any
>ongoing problems? I wasn't able to recreate what John reported, and (as
>promised) have not been trying to "fix" anything lately.
> - Greg

Hi Greg -

I noticed the problem when I tried to click on the link
grarpamp sent, it 404'd and going to lists.cpunks.org
loaded the Gutenberg site. But, it all started working 
properly later on that same day, or sometime soon after
(I can't remember precisely , but it came back quickly)

Thanks
John

>
>> On July 26, 2019 5:47:48 AM UTC, grarpamp  wrote:
>> >Rethread from
>> >https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2019-July/075615.html
>> >
>> >Priv said:
>> >>> Subject: You have been unsubscribed from the cryptography mailing
>> >list
>> >> that looks a lot like an auto-remove due to bounces
>> >
>> >No. That's the admin unsubscribe button talking.
>> >
>> >cryptogra...@metzdowd.com is run by silly censors.
>> >
>> >> Perhaps this would be a good time to
>> >
>> >Call them out and quit that list for elsewhere.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> You have been unsubscribed from the cryptography mailing list
>> >
>> >> 554 5.7.1 : Recipient address rejected:
>> >> you must be a subscriber to cryptogra...@metzdowd.com to post to
>the
>> >list.
>> >
>> >> The email address you supplied is banned from this mailing list.
>If
>> >> you think this restriction is erroneous, please contact the list
>> >> owners at cryptography-ow...@metzdowd.com.
>> >
>> >To expand... there were *never* at any time any messages
>> >posted through to the list that in any way justify
>> >this laughable action by Perry the Censor, because
>> >the list is under total moderation... as such, said
>> >"moderaters" have personally approved every single
>> >poster, thread, and message to the list. Therefore
>> >every message posted to the list, including mine,
>> >has been *by exclusive logical definition* fully
>> >compliant with charter and fully endorsed by
>> >"moderator" and, regarding what did post, had every
>> >oppurtunity to be discussed, counter opined, even
>> >objected to by the list recipients publicly on list, to
>> >which there were effectively no substantive objections
>> >therein, either due to lack of cause, and or due to
>> >themselves being censored on objections, thus
>> >any of those objections were logically deemed invalid
>> >by moderator that action serving as a double approval
>> >by moderator.
>> >
>> >There is no reason to believe subjects of censorship
>> >will be permitted to open original thread discussion
>> >on list regarding such censorship, nor be successful
>> >in raising argument direct to censorious moderators...
>> >history shows both those as generally futile efforts...
>> >thus there can be no real expectation that the censored
>> >should even bother trying such avenues of recourse.
>> >To wit, who has succeeded with Facebook, YouTube,
>> >Twitter, Instagram, etc... people have to quit them
>> >and move to better solutions.
>> >
>> >Instead of following on from the rare mentions of
>> >censorship that did made it on list by opening up a full
>> >original thread discussion with and for subscribers
>> >on list in public as to why Perry the Censor approved
>> >tens of one sided threads and posts through to the
>> >list, and then blocked counter opinion, reference
>> >links, conversation and data from being posted in
>> >reply to those very same threads and posts moderators
>> >approved in the first place, or by direct notice...
>> >Perry the Censor hit the ban button when proven and
>> >logged out as Biased Censor to the other topically
>> >related yet unmoderated and public cypherpunks list.
>> >
>> >Note the ban button clearly being laughably pointless,
>> >and supports above status, as again, the list is under
>> >total moderation whereby all posts must be approved,
>> >and the ban button has zero effect on other fora.
>> >
>> >At least now more people know the list is unreasonably
>

Re: Censors steer cryptogra...@metzdowd.com mailing list, kill free and open discussion

[John Newman]

List archives are down - the website is going to the gutenberg vhost.

On July 26, 2019 5:47:48 AM UTC, grarpamp  wrote:
>Rethread from
>https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2019-July/075615.html
>
>Priv said:
>>> Subject: You have been unsubscribed from the cryptography mailing
>list
>> that looks a lot like an auto-remove due to bounces
>
>No. That's the admin unsubscribe button talking.
>
>cryptogra...@metzdowd.com is run by silly censors.
>
>> Perhaps this would be a good time to
>
>Call them out and quit that list for elsewhere.
>
>
>
>> You have been unsubscribed from the cryptography mailing list
>
>> 554 5.7.1 : Recipient address rejected:
>> you must be a subscriber to cryptogra...@metzdowd.com to post to the
>list.
>
>> The email address you supplied is banned from this mailing list. If
>> you think this restriction is erroneous, please contact the list
>> owners at cryptography-ow...@metzdowd.com.
>
>To expand... there were *never* at any time any messages
>posted through to the list that in any way justify
>this laughable action by Perry the Censor, because
>the list is under total moderation... as such, said
>"moderaters" have personally approved every single
>poster, thread, and message to the list. Therefore
>every message posted to the list, including mine,
>has been *by exclusive logical definition* fully
>compliant with charter and fully endorsed by
>"moderator" and, regarding what did post, had every
>oppurtunity to be discussed, counter opined, even
>objected to by the list recipients publicly on list, to
>which there were effectively no substantive objections
>therein, either due to lack of cause, and or due to
>themselves being censored on objections, thus
>any of those objections were logically deemed invalid
>by moderator that action serving as a double approval
>by moderator.
>
>There is no reason to believe subjects of censorship
>will be permitted to open original thread discussion
>on list regarding such censorship, nor be successful
>in raising argument direct to censorious moderators...
>history shows both those as generally futile efforts...
>thus there can be no real expectation that the censored
>should even bother trying such avenues of recourse.
>To wit, who has succeeded with Facebook, YouTube,
>Twitter, Instagram, etc... people have to quit them
>and move to better solutions.
>
>Instead of following on from the rare mentions of
>censorship that did made it on list by opening up a full
>original thread discussion with and for subscribers
>on list in public as to why Perry the Censor approved
>tens of one sided threads and posts through to the
>list, and then blocked counter opinion, reference
>links, conversation and data from being posted in
>reply to those very same threads and posts moderators
>approved in the first place, or by direct notice...
>Perry the Censor hit the ban button when proven and
>logged out as Biased Censor to the other topically
>related yet unmoderated and public cypherpunks list.
>
>Note the ban button clearly being laughably pointless,
>and supports above status, as again, the list is under
>total moderation whereby all posts must be approved,
>and the ban button has zero effect on other fora.
>
>At least now more people know the list is unreasonably
>biased and censored.
>
>""Cryptography" is ... devoted to cryptographic
>technology and its political impact ... security and
>privacy technology and its impact ... technical
>aspects of cryptosystems, social repercussions of
>cryptosystems, and the politics of cryptography ...
>export ... laws ..."
>
>Surely Satoshi is a bit dissapointed at artificial curtailment
>of discussion in above areas regarding their cryptosystem
>Genesis. One would hope that no original leaks of
>Top Secret breaks to cryptosystems are being censored
>there, and that no other games are being played with
>crypto topics... who knows.
>
>I might reconsider claimed status in re censorship, bias,
>hypocrisy, etc upon such time as there is free and open
>discussion on the cryptogra...@metzdowd.com list such
>that the list membership may become apprised
>and participate as the ongoing source of moderation
>guidance, and upon such time as any reasonably mindful
>to charter original threads approved are able to
>enjoy reasonably full illumination thereafter by all
>subscribers interested in doing so respectably within
>thread topic as developed.
>
>
>Here's the censored post that caused the Censor's minds to explode...
>
>https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2019-July/075596.html
>
>For more fun... besides searching this list for more
>"cryptogra...@metzdowd.com" censorship logs,
>and the FUD and Anti posts moderator approved to be thrown
>at true cypherpunk cryptoanarchic cryptocurrencies and philosophy
>over time there... see all the random posts that then got approved
>even in just this OP thread, yet the sole one that plainly noted
>prophecy regarding both Orange's Twittered USD and Red's FB Libra
>Fiat 

Re: Faith In Technology [ex: Crypto GovBankCorp]

[John Newman]

On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 05:02:13PM -0300, Punk wrote:
> On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 05:34:40 -0400
> John Newman  wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 04:08:39PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> > > > What's the answer to the Fermi paradox?
> > 
> > < SNIP >
> > 
> > I was hinting at something simpler. Namely: any sufficiently
> > intelligent life form will destroy itself 
> 
>   why? 

It's a cynical way of looking at what seems to be a rapacious
species, who seems to have its eye on short term gains, and is
continually on the edge of unsustainable expansion or unintentional
self-destruction. 

Nick Bostrum has some other theories that aren't exactly existential
ends, but "the gradual elimination of all forms of being worth caring
about" (not talking about the simulation hypothesis).

https://nickbostrom.com/fut/evolution.html


> 
> > before it ever gets a
> > chance to send von neumann probes out pissing its mark all over
> > the universe.
> 
>   and why would 'they' send 'probes'? And what makes you think anyone can 
> 'send probes' all over an infinite universe?
> 
>   the explanation for the alleged 'fermi paradox' looks kinda clear to 
> me. Imperialist western assholes who have raped the whole world take for 
> granted that 'aliens' would do the same thing with the whole universe...
>   
>   however, I'd assume that intelligent beings wouldn't bother 'colonizing 
> the universe'. So there isn't any 'paradox'. Just a self centered assumption 
> made by some ppl. 

Yeah, I hope so. That's the positive way to think about it, and how I 
hope shit plays out - how it would have to have played out, all over 
the trillions of galaxies with billions of stars and exoplanets that 
make up the universe, over the past ~14B years. Of course, its also
possible the "Great Filter" could be something else entirely, or some
other explanation. 

Anyway, we'll likely be dead before humanity totally shits the bed, if it 
does happen, so who gives a fuck, right :)

> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 

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Re: Faith In Technology [ex: Crypto GovBankCorp]

[John Newman]

On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 04:08:39PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> > What's the answer to the Fermi paradox?

< SNIP >

I was hinting at something simpler. Namely: any sufficiently
intelligent life form will destroy itself before it ever gets a
chance to send von neumann probes out pissing its mark all over
the universe.

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Amazon Ring - Discounted when you stream to local cops

[John Newman]

Somehow I missed that this was going on -


https://www.buzzfeednews.com/amphtml/daveyalba/a-new-map-shows-all-the-places-where-police-have-partnered

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/43jmnq/how-amazon-and-the-cops-set-up-elaborate-sting-operation-that-accomplished-nothing

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/14/amazon-ring-police-surveillance/


A nice map of all the places where this shit is being used

https://www.banfacialrecognition.com/map/

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Re: Cryptocurrency: Brings Down GovBankCorp

[John Newman]

>
>   yeah because of blind faith in 'technology'.


There is a lot of blind faith in tech, a lot of hand waving 
about hard problems from ostensibly "smart" people.

Ray Kurzweil, who is 71, thinks he will live forever - he
predicts by 2029 medical tech will be at a point where
each year will add at least another year to your life span,
effective immortality.

He also thinks anthropic climate change (yeah, I know
Juan thinks it's all a big hoax, though I'm not clear who
benefits from such a hoax - massive vested interests 
in carbon fuel industries drive troves of billionaires, not
to mention entire nation states, but in any case) is nothing
to worry about - Moore's law applied to renewables, it's
no fucking problem :). 

It all sounds like technology as religious experience to
me.  

Even if you buy into the inevitability of this future tech, 
is it really a road map for utopia? Humanity is facing some 
tough shit, much of it directly tied to tech progression: massive surveillance 
states on levels never previously 
imagined, wealth continually centralized among a tiny 
world elite, existential risks as a direct result of 
technological advances - atomic weapons, other "WMD", 
and of course turning the heat up on the planet by 
dumping carbon into the atmosphere at ever greater rates. 


It seems like we are on a race to destroy ourselves... Will
tech help us or hinder us? Imagine the "democratization of
high-tech" that comes with all this progress - what 
happens when anybody with the latest & greatest 3d 
printer and a few other relatively cheap odds and ends 
can create an atomic bomb?  What happens when gene
hacking becomes truly cheap and ubiquitous, and anyone 
with a little biology knowledge and the right hardware can
engineer a plague? 

What's the answer to the Fermi paradox?

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Re: Burner phone for international call from US

[John Newman]

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 02:23:21PM -0400, grarpamp wrote:
> On 7/22/19, John Newman  wrote:
> > The so-called "Obama phones" are indeed true pieces of shit.
> 
> There are also charity type places that give away or sell
> for $10-20 old used crap as "no SIM emergency call only"
> "victim" "keep in touch with and track children" phones.
> 
> And you can dig around in phone recycle bins.

Yeah, I've noticed these machines at the grocery store lately - you put
in your old cell phones, it scans them and prices them out for you right
then and there. 

Anyway, the "obama phones" wouldn't be so bad, except they come
preloaded with so much shit software that you don't want and they are
too slow to run, and its not uninstallable. Maybe with a cyanogenmod
image or something they would be fine, if such a rom exists.

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Re: Burner phone for international call from US

[John Newman]

On July 21, 2019 11:26:44 PM UTC, Douglas Lucas  wrote:
>Dear cryptocurrency hoarders, aspiring cryptocurrency hoarders, and
>those discarded by -- or barely hanging on in -- a global (anti)society
>dedicated to assigning high status to those most adept at hoarding
>commodities, while exterminating those odd enough to, like, help
>others:
>
>
>In Seattle where I reside, I'd like to purchase a burner phone for less
>than $100 USD, though upper limit price is negotiable. Preferably
>purchase offline with cash.
>
>This phone will be used by a comrade, whom I will coach, to place an
>international call to a Western country, and a few calls within the
>United States.
>
>I do not want the recipients of the calls to associate them with me, my
>name, my voice, my phone number, etc. The recipients of the calls are
>low-level staffpeople at small/medium-sized enterprises and/or
>educational institutions.
>
>I do not care what super-duper state-level, corporate-level adversaries
>know about me and my comrade and the calls. So although juking the NSA
>and doing James Bond backflips is key to cryptofarters' masturbatory
>fantasies, please hew to the standard spiels about threat models, etc.
>Just trying to trick, er undercover interview, some low level
>staffpeople at small/medium firms and educational institutions. Not
>God.
>
>A key point is, it would be good if I could install onto the device one
>of those obscure Russian or otherwise seedy apps that record all the
>phone calls, so I may transcribe the phone calls later. If that's not
>an
>option, then the device needs a loud speakerphone so I can point a
>small
>digital audio recorder at it and record the calls for later
>transcription.
>
>The purpose is journalistic research which, sorry not sorry Russophile
>Zennadsfnsdjg Harkargfdsjkghsdkjg, I will not describe, even though
>last
>time I asked something research-y you tried to pry the purpose out of
>me, probably so you could use it a springboard to scream pro-Putin
>crap.
>
>Some folks in Seattle suggested I obtain, from another person, one of
>the government-funded smartphones that are sometimes handed out by
>social services here. I've used these devices before, so many millions
>of adverts clog the screens, they're a nightmare. Also they would
>betray
>the area code, which probably isn't a problem but it would be ideal to
>have at least a non-Seattle area code, maybe an area code in some other
>Washington state area? Also I'm not sure if they can make international
>calls, being government funded. Does anyone know

The so-called "Obama phones" are indeed true pieces of shit.
They squeeze a few dozen uninstallable apps on a phone with
8G of local storage and like 512M ram... Anyway, I am fairly 
sure you can make international calls, but depending on the
provider you may have to add funds to what comes each month
with the device.


 Also I'm not sure
>it's
>possible to install one of the seedy call-recording apps on one of
>these
>gov devices.
>

It should be, they are just shitty Android devices. But, no
guarantees.

>I'll be out of state in a few days, travelling in the US Pacific
>Northwest for a few days, so if there's a model y'all would suggest I
>buy at an out-of-state 7-Eleven or something, please let me know.
>
>If you don't know, maybe you could suggest a subreddit where it would
>be
>more helpful to ask, or an up-to-date guide or FAQ about this sort of
>thing.
>
>
>Thanks! May all your cryptocurrency fantasies come true --
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charon%27s_obol -- may instead of gazing
>at Assange's face endlessly, we instead do things that are pro social.
>
>Doug


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Re: E2E Security of Group in Signal, WhatsApp, and Threema

[John Newman]

> On Jul 20, 2019, at 1:59 PM, grarpamp  wrote:
> 
> End-to-End Security of Group Chats in Signal, WhatsApp, and Threema
> https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/713


Has anyone used keybase for group chat (like as a slack
replacement)? They seem to be touting this feature,
particularly since slack just released some info saying
their 2015 hack was more significant than originally
stated.

Keybase & slack links:

https://keybase.io/blog/slack-incident 

https://slackhq.com/new-information-2015-incident 

https://slackhq.com/march-2015-security-incident-and-the-launch-of-two-factor-authentication
 



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Re: E2E Security of Group in Signal, WhatsApp, and Threema

[John Newman]

On July 20, 2019 6:59:57 PM UTC, grarpamp  wrote:
>End-to-End Security of Group Chats in Signal, WhatsApp, and Threema
>https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/713

Has anyone used keybase for group chat (like as a slack
replacement)? They seem to be touting this feature,
particularly since slack just released some info saying
their 2015 hack was more significant than originally
stated.

Keybase & slack links:

https://keybase.io/blog/slack-incident

https://slackhq.com/new-information-2015-incident
https://slackhq.com/march-2015-security-incident-and-the-launch-of-two-factor-authentication



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Re: Small considerations (was Re: It is insufficient that my life is ruined)

[John Newman]

> On Jul 20, 2019, at 1:12 AM, Cecilia Tanaka  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 9:38 AM John Newman  wrote:
>> 
>> Feel better Cici :)   I've flipped a motorcycle and broken my
>> shoulder, been run over crossing the street and broken my
>> knee and tibia, had a few epileptic seizures where I fell
>> over again (for some reason always on my bad arm) and
>> had to have MORE surgeries... Ack, I have great empathy
>> for you!  Get well soon.
> 
> John-John, hope you are feeling better.  Sorry for being so late but
> had some of the worst weeks of my life in the last days.
> 
> I hate to break my bones, hurts, surgeries, scars, pain, medicines,
> etc, etc.  If I can help you in some way, please tell me.
> 

Thank you :)  I’m all healed up these days, as healed up as I’ll
ever be..  I got 95% usage in my leg back and, in my arm, I don’t
know - I can’t lift the left one above my head, but it doesn’t slow
me down too much.

And, I haven’t owned a bike in 4 or 5 years. In my riding days, I must've
been in at least half a dozen accidents, but they were (almost) all
minor - dropped the bike going downhill in the rain and the brakes
slid out, dropped the first bike I owned a couple times just learning
how to ride, stuff like that. The only BAD wreck was with an ancient
1989 Ninja 1000R that I picked up for a great price. It was well
past 20 years old at the time, but still beautiful and had great
potential before I destroyed it. As it was, I rode it around for a
few weeks, and it had a few issues - the suspension was screwy, and
it was running very rough. So, I got the carbs cleaned, and it
transformed the machine. The front wheel would pull up from stop
just from acceleration (and this was a heavy fucking bike) - it was
fast!  But, the suspension was still a little fucked up, and just
a few days out of the shop I flipped the fucking thing going about
45mph - broke my helmet in half down at the bottom where the face
plate came dislodged and slid down. I wouldn’t have a face if I
hadn’t been wearing a helmet :)

Anyway, I kept riding for a while after that, but for whatever
reason it’s been a while since I owned a bike.. although, I’ve been
feeling that motorcycle itch again lately… who knows :P


> Now is a bit late here and I will have classes on this Saturday, in a
> few hours, so I think it's better to sleep soon.  In any case, just to
> make you laugh, a little cecilian fool story: - I broke my coccyx
> while having sex in my local work stairs...  I fell down the stairs
> because he was very...  err...  very "enthusiastic" in our
> intercourse, hahahaha!!!  ;D

> 
> It was f*cking painful, but it was absolutely impossible to avoid the
> hysterical laugh and the doctor and I almost die without breathing,
> only laughing...  Holy FSM, I really had a fun life, hahahaha!!!
> 

Hahah :)


> Wish you the same, my dear:  much health, fun sex, laugh, cool
> motorcycles, music, and all the happiness of the Universe!  <3
> 
> Love you, John.  Please, take care, be well, and heal soon, my dear
> friend.  And avoid accidents with stairs for now, hahahaha  <3

Same to you Ceci - I hope you heal up & feel better soon!

cheers,
John




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Re: Alan Turing New Face of 50 Pound Note

[John Newman]

The Polish cryptologists don't get nearly enough credit 
for cracking enigma. Not to say Turing was a dummy or
anything, but he had a hell of a head start.



On July 15, 2019 7:02:40 PM UTC, "\0xDynamite"  
wrote:
>Alan Turing:  homosexual, but not gay.
>
>Boom.  And like that I struck the head of the cogniscente
>
>
>
>On 7/15/19, jim bell  wrote:
>>  I would say that it must have been frustrating for such a genius to
>be
>> stuck in a world with such primitive devices and processes, but
>really,
>> everyone is stuck in the same position.                    Jim Bell
>>
>> On Monday, July 15, 2019, 07:17:04 AM PDT, John Young
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  https://www.bbc.com/news/business-48962557#share-tools
>>
>>
>>


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Re: Small considerations (was Re: It is insufficient that my life is ruined)

[John Newman]

Feel better Cici :)   I've flipped a motorcycle and broken my
shoulder, been run over crossing the street and broken my
knee and tibia, had a few epileptic seizures where I fell 
over again (for some reason always on my bad arm) and
had to have MORE surgeries... Ack, I have great empathy 
for you!  Get well soon.

Cheers
John


On July 15, 2019 5:14:10 AM UTC, Cecilia Tanaka  
wrote:
>On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 9:51 PM rooty  wrote:
>>
>> Stop taunting he already scared own shadow omg. Luv you ci ci
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> On Jul 11, 2019, 5:42 PM, Razer < g...@riseup.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h4hpd4lcwpo
>
>"ci ci is pretty sick sick" and very hurt at this moment, but loves
>you too, my little bot rooty cutie pie.
>
>Thank you for worrying about Ryan's mental, psychological, and
>physical health.  I don't know him, we are not friends, but his
>suffering is visible and it's sweet of you to show some compassion and
>support to a person in need.   It's his cry for help and I don't know
>how to help him.
>
>Well , Razer ...  This song is pretty scary but beautiful and
>interesting at the same time, my dear beloved.  Thank you very much
>for sharing this little treasure with the list!  <3
>
>I also love you, even when you prefer to send kisses only to Juan,
>hahaha!!  I confess I felt a little bit jealous, but it is impossible
>to compete with him: he is always much more charming than me,
>hahahaha...  ;D
>
>My dearest pumpkin grarpamp, I loved the music but not much the joke
>about Naruto run...  It's a bit strange, but Naruto's running was
>scientifically already proved as very efficient.  Wow, man, it 's
>tricky, you know, hahaha!!!  ;D
>
>Juan, I know you do not care about my opinion, but I do trust and
>respect Greg and Riad.  Seriously, they are very brave, kind, and
>patient.   Real CypherPunks, my love.
>
>M, S, a, J, et al, I am still alive, but almost gave up and gone this
>time with an insane physical and the most devasting emotional pain
>that I could only imagine for several different reasons.  Two new
>surgeries next week.  Being honest, something already died inside me,
>and it was one of my best, my dearest qualities.  I will miss my lost
>innocence, some of my dearest dreams, and my most sincere hopes about
>part of humanity.  My heart is broken and I am hurt.
>
>Well, I will need to take some time for healing and finally, feel
>better.  In this meanwhile, you all can summon my big bad bro, LooLoo.
>Lucifer is - pretty obviously! - a lawyer too.  Much better than me,
>but has curious theories about religions. He does believe in God and
>says he saw His/Her face in person, shining in absolute splendor, and
>talking to him.  Well, some people say it's true faith.  I call
>"schizophrenia" or "mental dementia"...  :P
>
>
>
>Just an excerpt from "Crying For Help" lyrics...
>
>"I wandered around
>The streets of this town
>Trying to find sense in it all
>
>The rain on my face
>It covers the trace
>Of all the tears
>I've had to waste
>
>Why must we hide emotions?
>Why must we never break down and cry?
>
>All that I need
>Is to cry for help
>Somebody please hear me
>Cry for help
>All I can do"
>Is cry for help
>
>No need to feel ashamed
>Release the pain
>Cry for help"
>
>==
>
>But my broken heart is singing this song in the last days...
>
>https://youtu.be/52nfjRzIaj8
>
>"Don't wanna to give my heart away
>To another stranger
>Or let another day begin
>Won't even let the sunlight in
>No, I'll never love again
>I'll never love again, ooh..."


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Palantir

[John Newman]

More Orwellian shit, 1984 really was 35 years ago...


https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/9kx4z8/revealed-this-is-palantirs-top-secret-user-manual-for-cops

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6190005-PALANTIR-Guide.html

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Re: SKS Keyserver Network Under Attack

[John Newman]

I'm surprised no one has written an sks filesystem (using fuse maybe), although 
it would obviously be horribly inefficient, and a total abuse of the system.


On June 30, 2019 10:40:20 PM UTC, coderman  wrote:
>https://gist.github.com/rjhansen/67ab921ffb4084c865b3618d6955275f
>
>SKS Keyserver Network Under Attack
>
>This work is released under a [Creative Commons
>Attribution-NoDerivatives 4.0 International
>License](http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/4.0/).
>
>Terminological Note
>
>"OpenPGP" refers to the OpenPGP protocol, in much the same way that
>HTML refers to the protocol that specifies how to write a web page.
>"GnuPG", "SequoiaPGP", "OpenPGP.js", and others are implementations of
>the OpenPGP protocol in the same way that Mozilla Firefox, Google
>Chromium, and Microsoft Edge refer to software packages that process
>HTML data.
>
>Who am I?
>
>Robert J. Hansen
><[r...@sixdemonbag.org](mailto:r...@sixdemonbag.org?subject=SKS%20Keyserver%20network%20attack)>.
>I maintain the GnuPG FAQ and unofficially hold the position of crisis
>communicator. This is not an official statement of the GnuPG project,
>but does come from someone with commit access to the GnuPG git repo.
>
>Executive Summary
>
>In the last week of June 2019 unknown actors deployed a certificate
>spamming attack against two high-profile contributors in the OpenPGP
>community (Robert J. Hansen and Daniel Kahn Gillmor, better known in
>the community as "rjh" and "dkg"). This attack exploited a defect in
>the OpenPGP protocol itself in order to "poison" rjh and dkg's OpenPGP
>certificates. Anyone who attempts to import a poisoned certificate into
>a vulnerable OpenPGP installation will very likely break their
>installation in hard-to-debug ways. Poisoned certificates are already
>on the SKS keyserver network. There is no reason to believe the
>attacker will stop at just poisoning two certificates. Further, given
>the ease of the attack and the highly publicized success of the attack,
>it is prudent to believe other certificates will soon be poisoned.
>
>This attack cannot be mitigated by the SKS keyserver network in any
>reasonable time period. It is unlikely to be mitigated by the OpenPGP
>Working Group in any reasonable time period. Future releases of OpenPGP
>software will likely have some sort of mitigation, but there is no time
>frame. The best mitigation that can be applied at present is simple:
>stop retrieving data from the SKS keyserver network.
>
>How Keyservers Work
>
>When Phil Zimmermann first developed PGP ("Pretty Good Privacy") in the
>early 1990s there was a clear chicken and egg problem. Public key
>cryptography could revolutionize communications but required
>individuals possess each other's public keys. Over time terminology has
>shifted: now public key cryptography is mostly called "asymmetric
>cryptography" and public keys are more often called "public
>certificates", but the chicken-and-egg problem remains. To communicate
>privately, each party must have a small piece of public data with which
>to bootstrap a private communication channel.
>
>Special software was written to facilitate the discovery and
>distribution of public certificates. Called "keyserver software", it
>can be thought of as analogous to a telephone directory. Users can
>search the keyserver by a variety of different criteria to discover
>public certificates which claim to belong to the desired user. The
>keyserver network does not attest to the accuracy of the information,
>however: that's left for each user to ascertain according to their own
>criteria.
>
>Once a user has verified a certificate really and truly belongs to the
>person in question, they can affix an affidavit to the certificate
>attesting that they have reason to believe the certificate really
>belongs to the user in question.
>
>For instance: John Hawley (j...@example.org) and I (r...@example.org)
>are good friends in real life. We have sat down face-to-face and
>confirmed certificates. I know with complete certainty a specific
>public certificate belongs to him; he knows with complete certainty a
>different one belongs to me. John also knows H. Peter Anvin
>(h...@example.org) and has done the same with him. If I need to
>communicate privately with Peter, I can look him up in the keyserver.
>Whichever certificate bears an attestation by John, I can trust really
>belongs to Peter.
>
>Keyserver Design Goals
>
>In the early 1990s we were concerned repressive regimes would attempt
>to force keyserver operators to replace certificates with different
>ones of the government's choosing. (I speak from firsthand experience.
>I've been involved in the PGP community since 1992. I was there for
>these discussions.) We made a quick decision that keyservers would
>never, ever, ever, delete information. Keyservers could add information
>to existing certificates but could never, ever, ever, delete either a
>certificate or information about a certificate.
>
>To meet this goal, we started 

Fake Satoshi

[John Newman]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-28/self-proclaimed-bitcoin-inventor-says-fortune-inaccessible

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Re: Was the MLK letter right to be sent?

[John Newman]

On June 26, 2019 9:41:14 AM UTC, Ryan Carboni <33...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>https://20committee.com/2019/06/01/why-j-edgar-hoover-was-right-to-spy-on-martin-luther-king-jr/
>Which reminds me of a part in Pat Buchanan's "Nixon;s White House
>Wars", where allegedly the FBI was going around trying to get
>journalists to publish based on some information that wouldn't hold up
>in a defamation case.
>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5048849/FBI-report-claims-MLK-night-sex-orgies.html
>>FBI report in new JFK release claims Martin Luther King Jr had
>'all-night sex orgy' at workshop for church ministers, was the father
>of a secret love child and had affairs with three women including
>singer Joan Baez
>https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article182651026.html
>“As early as January, 1964, King engaged in another, two-day drunken
>sex orgy in Washington, D.C. Many of those present engaged in sexual
>acts, natural as well as unnatural, for the entertainment of onlookers.
>When one of the females shied away from engaging in an unnatural act,
>King ... discussed how she was to be taught and initiated in this
>respect,” the document reads.


The FBI didn't have any business sending MLK letters telling 
him to commit suicide, insinuating blackmail over his sex life.

Fuck the FBI and that little closeted bitch Hoover. They
don't have any business spying on anybody's private lives, 
although clearly they do it anyway constantly.



>
>It is worth noting that recently, live on television, there was a woman
>who claimed to have been raped by Trump, who... decided to salivate at
>the concept of rape in general.
>It is very difficult to point out anything, but I suspect Martin Luther
>King had initial difficulty finding people to join his orgies given the
>upright moral character of so many people in his circles.
>
>The NXIVM cult is interesting by virtue of how it should be impossible
>for it to be kept secret.
>
>Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com) Secure Email.


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Re: Silk Road 2 Founder Dread Pirate Roberts 2 Caught, Jailed for 5 Years

[John Newman]

On April 12, 2019 4:01:49 PM UTC, coderman  wrote:
>see you in five, Cthulhu!  :0
>(in the US this would have been a *much* longer sentence...)
>
>---
>
>https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/9kx59a/silk-road-2-founder-dread-pirate-roberts-2-caught-jailed-for-5-years
>
>by [Joseph
>Cox](https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/contributor/joseph-cox)
>Apr 12 2019, 1:04pm
>
>Silk Road 2 Founder Dread Pirate Roberts 2 Caught, Jailed for 5 Years
>
>For years, the arrest and case has been kept under-wraps. Friday, a
>court sentenced Thomas White to 5 years and 4 months for his role in
>running a huge dark web drug marketplace.
>
>In 2015, WIRED published a list of the ‘dark web drug lords who got
>away.’ That list included the Dread Pirate Roberts 2 (DPR2), the
>creator of the second Silk Road site, which launched almost immediately
>after the FBI ended the first with the famous arrest of founder Ross
>Ulbricht.
>
>Under DPR2, Silk Road 2 went on to rake in hundreds of thousands of
>dollars a day. The FBI shut that one down too and arrested its
>remaining administrator. By that time, DPR2 had already passed
>ownership of the site on and, publicly, it looked like he had evaded
>prosecution.
>
>But today, a court in Liverpool, England, sentenced Thomas White, a
>technologist and privacy activist, for crimes committed in part while
>running Silk Road 2 under the DPR2 persona, among other crimes
>committed under another persona. White pleaded guilty to drug
>trafficking, money laundering, as well as making indecent images of
>children, and was sentenced to a total of 5 years and 4 months in
>prison.
>
>White’s arrest took place in November 2014, but the case has remained
>largely under-wraps because of the UK’s strict court reporting rules,
>which prohibit journalists from covering some cases before their
>conclusion. This is to stop suspects facing "trial by media," and in
>order to let cases run their course.
>
>Paul Chowles, an investigator from the National Crime Agency (NCA) who
>worked on the case, told Motherboard in a phone call one piece of
>evidence included the private encryption key belonging to DPR2 on one
>of White’s computers. If someone possesses the private part of a PGP
>key, which is used to decrypt and sign messages, it can be a good
>indicator that they are behind a particular online identity.
>
>White has been out of prison on bail since his arrest in 2014, and
>became reasonably well-known in security circles under his real name in
>the time between his arrest and sentencing. After working on the Silk
>Road 2, White adopted the handle ‘The Cthulhu,.’ a moniker that may be
>familiar to those who follow technology news. On Twitter he mused about
>security and privacy topics, and has appeared under his own name in
>articles in Motherboard, Forbes, and more as an expert on Tor and other
>subjects. He previously ran a website archiving large data breaches
>that anyone could download, including the MySpace breach, data from
>hacked affairs website Ashley Madison, and customer information from a
>Muslim-focused dating site called ‘Muslim Match.’ White wrote blog
>posts on his own website, including a guide on how to securely setup a
>Tor hidden service, and he also ran a number of nodes for the
>volunteer-driven Tor anonymity network.
>
>White declined to speak to Motherboard on the record about his case.
>White deleted his Cthulhu Twitter account on Thursday.
>ComputersWhite's computer equipment seized by the NCA. Image: NCA
>
>***
>
>After the FBI took down the original Silk Road site in 2013 and
>arrested Ulbricht, a small cabal of Silk Road veterans banded together
>to create its replacement. Those included moderators of the first site,
>and “StExo,” White’s persona which he used to offer money laundering
>services.
>
>White spear-headed that effort, and told others he would drop StExo and
>take on the mantle of DPR2, according to Chowles from the NCA. The
>Dread Pirate Roberts is a reference to the character from the book and
>film The Princess Bride, in which the title trickles down from
>successor to successor.
>
>“DPR2, aka Thomas White, was the boss. He was the controlling mind in
>all of this, and he was the one driving it forward,” Chowles added.
>
>Got a tip? You can contact this reporter securely on Signal on +44 20
>8133 5190, OTR chat on jf...@jabber.ccc.de, or email
>joseph@vice.com.
>
>One Silk Road moderator that White directed went by the handle
>“Cirrus.” As Motherboard showed in 2014, Cirrus was an undercover law
>enforcement official who captured chat logs detailing White’s
>transition from StExo to DPR2.
>
>“He was able to capture that; that kind of transition,” Chowles said,
>referring to Jared Der-Yeghiayan, the US Department of Homeland
>Security (DHS) agent who controlled the Cirrus account. Chat logs US
>authorities recovered from the computer of Blake Benthall, Silk Road
>2’s co-administrator, reflected much the same thing, Chowles added.
>
>In a longform 2016 

Re: Censorship: Linus Torvalds Comes Out Blatant Censor's Advocate, Anti Privacy/Anonymity

[John Newman]

On April 11, 2019 2:50:37 PM UTC, John Newman  wrote:
>
>
>On April 8, 2019 7:19:12 PM UTC, Steve Kinney 
>wrote:
>>
>>
>>On 4/7/19 4:36 PM, Punk wrote:
>>> On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 00:04:22 -0400
>>> Steve Kinney  wrote:
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>>> A cursory
>>>> search did not turn up a link to the text; my copy arrived in hard
>>cover
>>>> via the Science Fiction Book Club.  Interlibrary loan if all else
>>fails...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> try 
>>> 
>>> https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/7780471/Brunner__John
>>
>>Heh.  Should have checked there first.
>>
>>:o)
>
>
>I still have a (very) badly worn paperwork that I picked up as a
>kid in the 90s at a used book store ;) 
>

s/paperwork/paperback/

[  snip  ]

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Re: Censorship: Linus Torvalds Comes Out Blatant Censor's Advocate, Anti Privacy/Anonymity

[John Newman]

On April 8, 2019 7:19:12 PM UTC, Steve Kinney  wrote:
>
>
>On 4/7/19 4:36 PM, Punk wrote:
>> On Sun, 7 Apr 2019 00:04:22 -0400
>> Steve Kinney  wrote:
>
>[...]
>
>>> A cursory
>>> search did not turn up a link to the text; my copy arrived in hard
>cover
>>> via the Science Fiction Book Club.  Interlibrary loan if all else
>fails...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  try 
>> 
>> https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/7780471/Brunner__John
>
>Heh.  Should have checked there first.
>
>:o)


I still have a (very) badly worn paperwork that I picked up as a
kid in the 90s at a used book store ;) 

Nick Haflinger was (to my mind) never quite as "cool" as Case
or Bobby Quine, but it's a damn good book, way ahead of it's time...
it predates the Gibson stuff by nearly a decade.

I've been re-reading Borges recently. His ruminations on infinity are
an interesting prelude to cyberpunk and modern sci-fi in general.
Gibson rather shamelessly stole "the aleph" (name and all!) from
Borges' short story written in the 30s (or 40s?) for Mona Lisa 
Overdrive :) 


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Re: AnarchoPunk Update

[John Newman]

On April 10, 2019 11:02:02 PM UTC, Steve Kinney  wrote:
>
>
>On 4/10/19 4:03 PM, Punk wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 03:50:18 -0400
>> grarpamp  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Dealing with Pedophilia in an Anarchist Society with Yaakov Markel
>via Anarchast
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NWLFBHrWdU
>> 
>>  of course, another quite remarkable thing is how this two scumbags
>parrot to the tee the current psychobabble 'scientific' dogmas about
>'therapists', 'trauma' and the like. 
>>  
>>  so here's a half sane voice to counter these 'libertarians'.
>> 
>>  https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7633118-the-trauma-myth
>> 
>>  " psychologist Susan Clancy reports on years of research and
>contends that it is not the abuse* itself that causes trauma—but rather
>the narrative that is later imposed on the abuse experience." 
>> 
>>  go figure. It's all just...propaganda from monkeys and their
>puritan, anti-sex (non) 'culture' based on jew-kkkristian (non)
>'values'.
>> 
>>  
>> *there of course is no 'abuse' in consensual acts. 
>
>The inherent logical disconnect between anarchy and law enforcement
>underlines the irrelevance of /most/ debate about how an anarchist
>society should be run.
>
>I prefer what used to be called frontier justice:  When someone makes
>enough trouble to motivate enough people to do something about it, they
>act:  Maybe a good talking-to; if that fails to curb the behavior in
>question, maybe running the offender out of town; if that seems
>inadequate to protect the community, maybe killing the bastard.
>
>Frontier justice is not perfect, but it's the best system we have.
>

It's definitely not perfect. Just look at all the lynchings that took
place in the south after the civil war - nearly always of innocent
black men (although James would, ridiculously, argue otherwise).

It seems to me that "Frontier Justice" has historically been
justice at the whim of a whipped up mob. 

Now - does that make it any worse than the absurdly inhumane
mass incarceration and extrajudicial killings practiced by
state sponsored pigs all over the country today? Obviously, no ;)

I don't have a precise idea of how "justice" in an anarchist 
society would work, but it seems to me that there are a couple 
of things that are obvious. You have a right to protect your
person and and anyone else actively under attack, with whatever
force necessary.  Beyond that, I think total shunning of a bad actor
(refusing to participate in trade or any other aspect of the 
local society) might be the best way to get rid of them. Of course,
as with anything else, this system is also imperfect ;)


>Compare the Libertarian belief that incorruptible Courts adjudicating
>tort claims, on a level playing field where wealth, power, and
>political
>prejudice provide no advantages, can exist.
>
>:o)


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Re: Facebook Censorship? I'm banned right now!

[John Newman]

On April 6, 2019 7:42:45 PM UTC, Steve Kinney  wrote:
>
>
>On 4/6/19 12:19 PM, jim bell wrote:> Jim Bell's comment:
>>
>> If a well-functioning AP-type system were available, Zuckerberg
>wouldn't even dream of doing this.
>>
>> Mark Zuckerburg wants censorship to protect his business model:
>https://nypost.com/2019/04/05/mark-zuckerburg-wants-censorship-to-protect-his-business-model/
>>
>
>I just got my first three day suspension from The Facebook, for
>"Bullying and Harassment."  We all know how the internet interprets
>censorship and what it does; here's the offending text:
>
>http://pilobilus.net/My.Thoughtcrime.html
>
>The offending text contains none of the following:  Hate speech,
>disparagement of any person or product, incitement to violence,
>solicitation of crime, commercial content, personal attacks of any
>kind,
>violent or sexual language of any kind.  It was on-topic in the reply
>thread where I posted it.
>
>My thoughtcrime?  I questioned the accuracy of the New Zeland Mosque
>shooter's video, without explicitly describing anything in it.  Then I
>very briefly speculated on the propaganda intent of the video,
>concluding that the two most obvious but seemingly 100% contradictory
>objectives would /both/ serve Corporate State interests by "playing
>both
>ends against the middle."
>


Careful - after FB gives you three strikes your provider will
automatically downgrade your connection to subsistence
speeds, with total disconnection from the network the
eventual, final punishment ;)

Of course, that's a bullshit scenario, right now, in the USA.
But it's not a terrible stretch of the imagination. If the sheep 
can't stay in their lane, they get put down.



>Bullying and harassment?  On second thought, maybe I /did/ break some
>Perfect Citizen's brain and send him howling into the night.  If so, go
>and do ye likewise.
>
>:o)


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Re: Censorship: Linus Torvalds Comes Out Blatant Censor's Advocate, Anti Privacy/Anonymity

[John Newman]

On April 7, 2019 3:02:36 AM UTC, Steve Kinney  wrote:
>
>
>On 4/6/19 5:32 AM, grarpamp wrote:
>>
>https://www.linuxjournal.com/content/25-years-later-interview-linus-torvalds
>> 
>> "Social Media... Add in anonymity, and it's just disgusting. When you
>> don't even put your real name on your garbage (or the garbage you
>> share or like), it really doesn't help. I'm actually one of those
>> people who thinks that anonymity is overrated. Some people confuse
>> privacy and anonymity and think they go hand in hand, and that
>> protecting privacy means that you need to protect anonymity. I think
>> that's wrong. Anonymity is important if you're a whistle-blower, but
>> if you cannot prove your identity, your crazy rant on some
>> social-media platform shouldn't be visible, and you shouldn't be able
>> to share it or like it."
>> 
>
>The above sounds like a comparison between The Facebook (makes a token
>effort to tie accounts to users' True Names), and 4chan (makes a token
>effort to disconnect users from their True Names).  That strikes me as
>a
>forced context creating forced either/or alternatives.  We need a
>middle
>ground between True Names Only and Anonymous FTW.  We already have a
>working example of that middle ground:  The i2p network.
>
>i2p users host various resources including websites, torrent trackers,
>and community forums on their own hardware, and access the resources
>etc. of their choice either anonymously, or pseudonymously via
>user-chosen screen names.  i2p users may disclose their True Names at
>will, but by default the identity and location of i2p users can not be
>determined without State level infrastructure access and surveillance
>resources.  An i2p user's actual True Name is his or her i2p router ID,
>which by design has no connection with any geographic location or birth
>certificate.
>
>Result?  A more intelligent, better behaved version of the Internet,
>with prevailing attitudes reminiscent of the public Internet shortly
>before AOL popped up and saturation bombed us with weaponized morons,
>followed by MegaCorporations looking to manipulate, control and extract
>capital from the said morons.  (Younger folks:  Look up "Eternal
>September" for the sad true story.)
>
>I can not completely attribute the modest i2p success story to the
>prevalence of users known by pseudonyms only.  To access i2p one has to
>install and configure software that will not work unless one cam read
>and apply howto docs and such; this screens out the less-bright 80% of
>potential users right up front.  Size also matters:  The smaller the
>network, the more good or bad behavior stands out, and the larger the
>benefits of presenting as a good (in the sense of useful) person.  At
>present, i2p has about 60k users according to stats.i2p.
>
>But I do not discount the prevalence of stable pseudo-identities as the
>primary factor affecting the quality of content and discourse in i2p
>space; without this factor, concerns for reputation would have no
>impact.  Compared to the great unwashed publick visible on the open
>Internet under their own names, i2p participants seem remarkably
>polite,
>intelligent and responsible.  Go figure.
>
>A user's i2p persona can take any form, and may include the content of
>websites that live on their creators' own hardware, accessible only via
>the i2p router network.  It takes about a day for anyone who knows HTML
>to build a website in i2p space; just turn on the server included in
>the
>router package and populate the relevant local directories with
>content.
>
>Pseudonyms that become visible in i2p space through participation over
>time become "persons" in a community, defined by their in-network
>behavior, building relationships and reputations based on their
>contributions.  The folks who wear those masks mostly take good care of
>them, because the trust and cooperation of other users in the community
>has value:  When a well respected i2p user asks for something, other
>users who have benefited from that user's contributions, advice,
>example
>etc. make a real effort to come through, because that's what humans do.
>Smart ones, anyway.
>
>:o)
>
>Postscript:  Above I mentioned True Names, from the Vernor Vinge
>novella
>of that name.  Published in 1981, True Names introduced the term
>'cyberspace' and several key concepts relevant to Cypherpunk interests.
> If you ain't seen it, here's a copy somebody else hosted so I don't
>have to:  http://www.scotswolf.com/TRUENAMES.pdf

Not to be too much of a pedant, but I always thought William
Gibson coined the term cyberspace, first in (I think) the short
story Burning Chrome and then in the novel Neuromancer
(1982 and 1984, respectively).


I need to read True Names (thanks!) - although a cursory search
didn't find the phrase.


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Re: Source of PoC

[John Newman]

On March 21, 2019 5:03:03 AM UTC, Ryan Carboni <33...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>The proof of concept was provided to me by the FBI in an entrapment
>attempt against me to charge me with internet piracy.
>
>They are not conducting a legally valid investigation, rather they are
>conducting a campaign of harassment against me under color of law, and
>are using normal legal processes to provide a hint of validity in case
>they are sued by me.
>
>Because they are intentionally conducting a 25% legal investigation
>against me, they have to continuously invent new ways to entrap and
>ruin my life.
>
>The latest attempt still involves controlling all aspects of my life,
>but they are using informant-doctors to advise my parents to threaten
>kicking me out of the house and forcing me to sign a fraudulent IRS
>form designed by the FBI.
>
>The FBI has prevented me from obtaining any means of independent
>sustainance.
>
>The fact that I am still saying I am being harassed and the fact that
>the FBI is too embarrassed to publicly admit to their private
>gaslighting effort is evidence enough.


Do you consider yourself a Targeted Individual? are you experiencing 
"gangstalking"?

Adventures in Zoochosis

[John Newman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmX2_AodFDk

I hold out for consensus
Give the masses the benefit of the doubt
Insist the democratic process will bear this population out

I think my only fear of death is that it may not be the end
That we may be eternal beings and must do all of this again
Oh, please lord, let no such thing be true

Though I suspect if I slink back to my enclosure
Safe and warm and adequately lit
Sufficiently plumbed and ventilated
Well, let's just say I would not shake a stick

And if pressed, I'll admit
I'm ecstatic about the enrichment programs
Implemented to extend our captive lifespans
I'm excited to see what our keepers have planned

Perhaps a bigger cage? Longer chains?
Some compelling, novel reasons to remain?
"Dad, are we gonna die?" Yes son, both you and I
But maybe not today

Boys, I've bowed to the keeper's whip for so damn long
I think the sad truth is this enclosure is where your old man belongs
But you, your hearts are pure
When the operant conditioners come to break you in
I'll sink my squandered teeth
You grab your little brother's hand, run like the wind
And if I'm not there, don't look back
Just go

I don't give a fuck about the enrichment programs
Implemented to extend our captive lifespans
Motherfucker gonna get a load of what I got planned


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Re: Why a state of emergency "due to currency collapse" only benefits the elite

[John Newman]

On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 02:06:01AM -0300, Punk wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 15:55:10 +1100
> Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> 
> > The looming US Dollar collapse is something the Lame Stream Media and
> > "the elite" want us to believe requires "a state of emergency" to be
> > declared.
> > 
> > This is simply not true - a new currency could immediately replace
> > the old, within say 48 hours maximum.
> 
> 
>   what currency can do that? 
> 
> 
> > 
> > The problem with the simple option is that this simple option implies
> > a wipe out of existing debts, and complete "debt forgiveness" for
> > outstanding debtees - in particular, the USA government i.e.
> > "nominally, the people".
> 
>   that isn't exactly a problem - they will repudiate their debts. That's 
> not a problem(for them) - that's their objective.
> 
> 
> > 
> > And the "problem" with that is that the (((elite bankers))) would
> > lose their debt control over "the people", which of course they wish
> > to perpetuate.
> 
>   what? Not at all. See above. 
> 
>   by the way, is zerohedge a kremlin propaganda outlet? 

Fuckwit, sorry I mean Zenaan (sorry about that Zenster), is a gullible,
credulous, easily-confused, and (nearly always, although I only see his
shit when it gets responded to) _off-topic_ fucking idiot.

Some info about zerohedge, take with appropriate pound of salt (and
these are rationalwiki's opinions, not mine: I've never followed
zerohedge, and Z's endorsement makes me unlikely to ever bother) -

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge


> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > The upcoming "state of emergency" is nothing other than a state of
> > emergency for "the elites", and only because they're likely to spend
> > a few months bickering about who gets the bigger slice "of initial
> > debt" in their presumably proposed next round of people enslavement.
> > 
> > In the next short while, "we the people" are very likely to be
> > targetted.
> > 
> > Doesn't sound particularly appealing to most of us... but, any
> > solutions?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   … "The explanation is... media welcomes discussion of emergency
> >   rule, to prepare the forces of the state for coming conflicts with
> >   the working class. Their only disagreement with Trump is over which
> >   faction of the ruling elite... should direct the repression."
> > 
> >   
> > https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-23/inside-fbis-police-state-operation-against-trump
> >   Inside The FBI's 'Police State' Operation Against Trump
> > 
> 

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Re: Where is Coderman?

[John Newman]

> 
> 
>> But damn, if you are coder...@gmail.com, it would have been good to
>> have an authentication mechanism in place before changing email
>> providers. Not that Google to ProtonMail is a bad move, of course.
>> 
>> I did look through old list messages, and didn't find anything that
>> coder...@gmail.com had GnuPG-signed.
>> 
>> But of course, it doesn't really matter ;)
> 
> indeed; email must die!
> 

Use GPG and sign your messages :P

I tied my GPG key into Keybase.io, which gives you some options of tying your 
key to
various other services, e.g. a personal web site / a BTC address / logins for 
reddit
& hacker news & probably other shit too.

But, really, just having a posting history with a certain key seems to me the 
easiest & most
reliable way of establishing legitimacy.


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Re: Where is Coderman?

[John Newman]

> 
> 
>> But damn, if you are coder...@gmail.com, it would have been good to
>> have an authentication mechanism in place before changing email
>> providers. Not that Google to ProtonMail is a bad move, of course.
>> 
>> I did look through old list messages, and didn't find anything that
>> coder...@gmail.com had GnuPG-signed.
>> 
>> But of course, it doesn't really matter ;)
> 
> indeed; email must die!
> 

Use GPG and sign your messages :P

I tied my GPG key into Keybase.io, which gives you some options of tying your 
key to
various other services, e.g. a personal web site / a BTC address / logins for 
reddit
& hacker news & probably other shit too.

But, really, just having a posting history with a certain key seems to me the 
easiest & most
reliable way of establishing legitimacy.


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Re: TechCrunch: IBM unveils its first commercial quantum computer

[John Newman]

On Wed, Jan 09, 2019 at 12:26:53AM -0300, Punk wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Jan 2019 00:26:36 + (UTC)
> jim bell  wrote:
> 
> > TechCrunch: IBM unveils its first commercial quantum computer.
> > https://techcrunch.com/2019/01/08/ibm-unveils-its-first-commercial-quantum-computer/
> > 
> 
>   is it a scam like the dwave machines? 


Almost certainly - but it looks cooler :)


> 
> 
>   https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2555
> 
> 

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Re: How Feminism, aka worthless feminazi scum is funded

[John Newman]

On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 05:31:26PM -0300, Punk wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 10:38:22 -0500
> John Newman  wrote:
> 
> 
> > >   ...Feminism is conceptual nonsense. If there are legal restrictions 
> > > placed on women those have to be abolished based on the principle of 
> > > equality before the law, but that's a *liberal* tenet not a 'feminist' 
> > > one. In other words 'feminism' is not needed. And no wonder in practice 
> > > feminism is just another tool of oppression. 
> 
> 
> > 
> > I have a girlfriend that would disagree with you, at least from a
> > pragmatic point of view. On the way to "true liberty" (i.e anarchy), 
> > isn't it appropriate to fight for such things as suffrage, equal pay for
> > women, abortion rights, etc ? 
> 
> 
>   abortion rights, yes, unless by that you mean government run 'medicine' 
> in which case the answer is no.
> 
>   female suffrage? No. Of course, there must not be any 'male' suffrage 
> either. 
> 
>   http://www.readliberty.org/liberty/1/22
> 
>   "Women are human beings, and consequently have all the natural rights 
> that any human beings can have. They have just as good a right to make laws 
> as men have, and no better; AND THAT IS JUST NO RIGHT AT ALL. " 
> 
>   equal pay? In a free market? Different people get paid differently. 
> Wanting to create 'economic equaity' by law is the non-plus-ultra of commie 
> statism. It has exactly nothing to do with anarchy. 

Equal pay for equal work seems fair. For instance, America is built on
slavery. Eventually, within the confines of the statist system (and a
pretty fucking ugly war), this was (sort of) ended. Actually, it
was more or less replaced with Jim Crow, and the "war on drugs",
and mass incarceration, and, umm.. well, yeah. So that's not a great
example, but my point is that as much as America is built on slavery,
it's built on misogyny, although I obviously had trouble squaring
the circle there at the end..

Anyway, she doesn't read this list :P

> >
> > 
> > I suppose she would say you have to get your hands dirty in the
> > existing system sometimes to accomplish anything, which admittedly
> > is a thin fucking tightrope to balance.
> 
> 
>   The idea that you can get rid of tyranny by voting is just too 
> ridiculous. Actually you can have your 'female suffrage' if you want and see 
> how women vote for tyranny exactly like they did. 

In the modern oligarchic surveillance-state technocracy in which
we live, I don't see any way to get rid of tyranny altogether,
practical, or otherwise. 

In any case, it's enough to just make one want to live life as best as
one can and let the fucking apocalypse sort itself out. Also: don't
have kids. 

Resistance may or may not be futile, but it fucking feels that way.

>
>   This argument isn't related to 'feminism' per se anyawy. It's the 
> typical position argued by 'practical' people of different backgrounds - 
> commie, libertarian etc. Except social democrats I guess since gradualist 
> tyranny by voting is a basic strategy used by them. 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

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Re: Apple Talks Shit About Privacy at CES

[John Newman]

On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 02:50:47PM -0500, Steve Kinney wrote:
> 
> 
> On 1/6/19 3:56 PM, grarpamp wrote:
> > https://www.engadget.com/2019/01/05/apple-ces-2019-privacy-advertising/
> > https://www.engadget.com/2016/02/18/fbi-apple-iphone-explainer/
> > https://www.android.com/security-center/
> > https://source.android.com/security
> > https://apple.com/privacy
> > 
> > "What happens on your iPhone, stays on your iPhone."
> 
> > That privacy priority came
> > into clear focus three years ago when Apple refused to assist the FBI
> > in unlocking an iPhone that belonged to a suspected terrorist in San
> > Bernardino, CA. 
> 
> I would describe that episode as a publicity stunt cooked up by the FBI
> and DoD contractor Apple.  If I recall correctly, Apple claimed it
> "could not" unlock the device in question; but after public attention
> started to die down, a 3rd party forensics shop did unlock it.
> 
> Meanwhile, back in the network security world, Declan Mccullagh reported:
> 
> https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-deluged-by-police-demands-to-decrypt-iphones/
> 
> 
> "ATF says no law enforcement agency could unlock a defendant's iPhone,
> but Apple can 'bypass the security software' if it chooses. Apple has
> created a police waiting list because of high demand."

They've also significantly decreased the security of their devices with
face ID and fingerprint ID, both of which can be faked with relative
ease, the easiest way being simply manhandling a persons hand or face
into position be LEO (or other nefarious actor). 

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/12/16/3d-printed-head-android-face-id/

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/27/face-id-iphone-x-fooled-by-mask/

> 
> :o)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 




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Re: How Feminism, aka worthless feminazi scum is funded

[John Newman]

On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 03:44:14AM -0300, Punk wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 20:59:17 -0500
> Steve Kinney  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> 
> > 
> > Funny thing:  All the feminists I have known had a primarily anarchist
> > orientation. I guess it depends on who you run around with - and/or
> > whether one's information comes from personal contacts or mass media
> > propaganda sources. 
> 
>   I know very little people with an 'anarchist orientation' because, 
> obviously, anarchism isn't exactly popular. And the set containing 
> 'anarchist' and 'feminist' is virtually empty as far as my personal sampling 
> goes. But, in general terms...
>   
>   ...Feminism is conceptual nonsense. If there are legal restrictions 
> placed on women those have to be abolished based on the principle of equality 
> before the law, but that's a *liberal* tenet not a 'feminist' one. In other 
> words 'feminism' is not needed. And no wonder in practice feminism is just 
> another tool of oppression.

I have a girlfriend that would disagree with you, at least from a
pragmatic point of view. On the way to "true liberty" (i.e anarchy), 
isn't it appropriate to fight for such things as suffrage, equal pay for
women, abortion rights, etc ? 

I suppose she would say you have to get your hands dirty in the
existing system sometimes to accomplish anything, which admittedly
is a thin fucking tightrope to balance.





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Re: Howard the Duck's "Dark Overlord"

[John Newman]

On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 09:15:00AM +, Winter-chan wrote:
> And another one attached.

Dude, fuck off with the lame graphs!  

Actually,  is so much easier. You, Z*n , and Jim "rape is a
social construct" can talk amongst yourselves in /dev/null.

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Re: Where is Coderman?

[John Newman]

On Mon, Dec 31, 2018 at 04:53:15PM -0700, Mirimir wrote:
> On 12/31/2018 02:30 PM, Where is Coderman? wrote:
> > Where is Coderman?
> > 
> > Searching public database and https://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/ shows no 
> > record of Martin Peck in prison.
> > 
> > He filed Court case "Roark v. United States 6:12-cv-01354-MC" at address:
> > 27464 SW Vandershuere Road
> > Hillsboro, OR 97123
> > https://www.google.com/maps/place/27464+SW+Vanderschuere+Rd,+Hillsboro,+OR+97123,+USA/@45.394192,-122.9598845,259m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x549514881c65e9fd:0x8a97ff4b304f7948!8m2!3d45.3941779!4d-122.959525
> > 
> > This looks to be not there anymore? Or maybe Coderman got rid of horses.
> > 
> > A while back Coderman posted about FBI disruption strategies. Did Coderman 
> > get disrupted? Or is Coderman dead?
> 
> My best guess: he gave up the persona after being outed as Martin Peck.
> 
> This was my news of it:
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: Re: Re: Pastebin of banned accounts found
> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 19:59:07 +0200
> From: carlo von lynX 
> To: 
> 
> Hello, illustre group of recipients. I made a bit of research
> into the matter, wanting to figure out which e-mail exchange
> made "coderman" think I belong into a list of troublemakers
> even if I do my best to always discuss rationally - and how
> such a list would come about with so many respected names
> along mine. Well, I was successful. Here is what I found.
> 
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-December/035866.html
> 
> Mr coderman admits to go by the real name "Martin R. Peck".
> He caused some confusion by promoting a fake NSA program that
> didn't actually exist. On the Whonix forum he "anonymously"
> reported his own news, introducing himself as follows:
> 
> > Martin R. Peck, software engineer, has created this BigSun automated
> redaction system, which he has offered to provide to the NSA.
> 
> At the same time I had been having an exchange with him
> where I had openly dared to doubt the safety of the debian
> binary distribution system - a threat that he tried to
> downplay by comparing it with much less likely threats.
> 
> See
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-December/035867.html
> thru
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2014-December/035879.html
> 
> We didn't actually arrive at any inflammatory tones, he
> just disappeared after his identity had been lifted and
> his argumentation started to look suspicious more than anything.
> 
> Disappearing was a smart move, as I had indeed forgotten
> entirely about him. Probably so have you.
> 
> What do I gather from this? Keeping my hands off of debian
> or any of its derivates has been a good choice. Same goes
> for fedora. Everybody get your gentoo skills back in shape,
> or help Guix/Nix get ready for prime time.

It's been years since I used gentoo/portage, but my understanding is
that its trended towards binary packages.. of course, this may be a
misunderstanding, because I haven't used it in years :) 

And I'm sure you can still use portage in strictly source build mode.

I've noticed the same thing with FreeBSD - unless you keep your own
package repo with poudriere, or maybe portmaster or something,
trying to keep a mix of stuff installed via src, from ports, and
binaries installed directly via the pkg command, can cause some
issues. The.. "issues"..  are largely to do with whether you went
in and changed options in the `make config` stage of building a
particular port.  I suppose if you just built EVERYTHING from src
out of ports (which actually converts what you just built into a
FreeBSD txz pkg in the process of `make install`) and never installed
a binary package, it might not be such a big deal.. until you tried
to do a major OS update, via freebsd-update or via make
buildworld/buildkernel && make installworld/installkernel, in either
case you generally need to upgrade all your packages to use the new
ABI, if you're doing a major version jump.


> 
> 

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Re: Wardialing Modems Guerrilla Network Opensource Cyberspace [re: Tim May]

[John Newman]

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 10:21:56PM +, jim bell wrote:
>  In the late 1970's, there was a technology in development called "ISDN",  
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Services_Digital_Network  (Although, 
> you wouldn't know this from this WIkipedia article, which merely makes 
> reference to a 1988 standard.)    During the 1970's, I was reading the 
> magazines Electronics, and EDN (Electronics Design News), and others, and 
> there were articles and ads for ISDN chips.  Keep in mind that during the 
> 1970's, commonly-available modems worked at speeds of 300 bits/second and 
> 1200 bits/second.  If ISDN had actually been delivered promptly, it would 
> have leapfrogged the 9600, 14.4kbps, 28.8 kbps, and higher speeds.  However, 
> ISDN was probably developed on the Phone Companys' calendar, very slowly, 
> while the rest of electronics (including modems) were operating on a 
> much-faster time frame.
> ×
> The ISDN idea was that a telephone line would have quantity 2, 64 
> kilobits/second channels, as well as a 16 kilobit/second channel.  
> However, one additional good reason that ISDN didn't succeed was simple:  The 
> phone companies would certainly have charged a high per-month fee for ISDN 
> lin es.  (And such a service would have had a box, analogous to a 'modem', 
> into which your computer would have connected.)  The eventual alternative, 
> buying the modems which eventually appeared on the market, was comparatively 
> free.  I think there was a time in the late 1970's when phone companies 
> expressed resentment that their users were employing modems on their phone 
> lines.  
>                     Jim Bell

The phone companies not only expressed resentment, it was in fact
"illegal" to connect anything not made/sold by Bell directly to the
phone system. This is at least part of the reason that early modems
were "acoustic couplers" (like the modem used in the movie WarGames).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_coupler




> 
> On Wednesday, December 26, 2018, 2:13:41 AM PST, grarpamp 
>  wrote:  
>  
>  [Now using proper Subject tech...]
> 
> If you have a line, you can still dial each other
> and negotiate up to 33.8kbps v.34bis,
> add better software compression (zstd) instead
> of depending on v.44, and add encryption algos
> on each end. v.92 56k needed an ISP end to work.
> 
> Companies like US Robotics and Zoom might still
> make v.34bis hardware modems... see USR5637.
> Lots of modems on used market.
> 
> Full hardware modem with PCM DSP is needed
> to do elite first pass random phone scanning that
> analyzes the analog instead of depending on
> successful second stage "V." negotiation.
> Plus you get as bonus all the WAV recordings of:
> "Hello... Helloo?! WTF!!!" ;-)
> 
> Anyone still have that analysis software?
> 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ITU-T_V-series_recommendations
> 
> You could probably do just as well creating your
> own modems with today's DIY hardware platforms
> in your local Makerspace. Opensource it on Github.
> 
> 
> On 12/23/18, jim bell  wrote:
> > You forgot that in 1992, typical dialup modems worked at 9600 bps.  Now,
> > most people have access to 25 megabits/sec Internet.
> > I occasionally see people in discussion areas claim that "the U.S.
> > Government" was responsible for making "The Internet".I shut that talk down,
> > by pointing out "Do you think that The Internet would have 'worked' if a
> > person, at home, had to connect up to his ISP at with a 300 bps modem?  1200
> > bps?  2400 bps?"I counter by pointing out that the people REALLY responsible
> > for a usable Internet were those who developed the 9600 bps, 14,400 bps, and
> > 28,800 bps modems.  Rockwell, USR (US Robotics), Hayes, Telebit, and a few
> > others.  Had that not existed, it would have been hard to make the Internet
> > available to most people.
> > From:    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem
> > "V.32 modems operating at 9600 bit/s were expensive and were only starting
> > to enter the market in the early 1990s when V.32bis was
> > standardized. Rockwell International's chip division developed a new driver
> > chip set incorporating the standard and aggressively priced it. Supra,
> > Inc. arranged a short-term exclusivity arrangement with Rockwell, and
> > developed the SupraFAXModem 14400based on it. Introduced in January 1992 at
> > $399 (or less), it was half the price of the slower V.32 modems already on
> > the market. This led to a price war, and by the end of the year V.32 was
> > dead, never having been really established, and V.32bis modems were widely
> > available for $250.V.32bis was so successful that the older high-speed
> > standards had little to recommend them. USR fought back with a 16,800 bit/s
> > version of HST, while AT introduced a one-off 19,200 bit/s method they
> > referred to as V.32ter, but neither non-standard modem sold well."
> >
> > And:    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem
> >
> > V.34/28.8 kbit/s and 33.6 

Re: Wardialing Modems Guerrilla Network Opensource Cyberspace [re: Tim May]

[John Newman]

On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 05:12:18AM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
> [Now using proper Subject tech...]
> 
> If you have a line, you can still dial each other
> and negotiate up to 33.8kbps v.34bis,
> add better software compression (zstd) instead
> of depending on v.44, and add encryption algos
> on each end. v.92 56k needed an ISP end to work.
> 
> Companies like US Robotics and Zoom might still
> make v.34bis hardware modems... see USR5637.
> Lots of modems on used market.
> 
> Full hardware modem with PCM DSP is needed
> to do elite first pass random phone scanning that
> analyzes the analog instead of depending on
> successful second stage "V." negotiation.
> Plus you get as bonus all the WAV recordings of:
> "Hello... Helloo?! WTF!!!" ;-)
> 
> Anyone still have that analysis software?
> 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ITU-T_V-series_recommendations
> 
> You could probably do just as well creating your
> own modems with today's DIY hardware platforms
> in your local Makerspace. Opensource it on Github.

I found my high school's SCO Unix system using Toneloc back in the day
(and a ton of other shit too...) 

I'd leave that thing running on my 286 all day long, like 8am - 4pm, 
for weeks at a time. 

I understand that WarVOX is at least one of the more modern incarnations
of Toneloc, uses VoIP to make a bunch of calls at the same time, other
neat tricks. I haven't actually used it as I did with toneloc, when I
was a kid :)

> 
> 
> On 12/23/18, jim bell  wrote:
> > You forgot that in 1992, typical dialup modems worked at 9600 bps.  Now,
> > most people have access to 25 megabits/sec Internet.
> > I occasionally see people in discussion areas claim that "the U.S.
> > Government" was responsible for making "The Internet".I shut that talk down,
> > by pointing out "Do you think that The Internet would have 'worked' if a
> > person, at home, had to connect up to his ISP at with a 300 bps modem?  1200
> > bps?  2400 bps?"I counter by pointing out that the people REALLY responsible
> > for a usable Internet were those who developed the 9600 bps, 14,400 bps, and
> > 28,800 bps modems.  Rockwell, USR (US Robotics), Hayes, Telebit, and a few
> > others.  Had that not existed, it would have been hard to make the Internet
> > available to most people.
> > From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem
> > "V.32 modems operating at 9600 bit/s were expensive and were only starting
> > to enter the market in the early 1990s when V.32bis was
> > standardized. Rockwell International's chip division developed a new driver
> > chip set incorporating the standard and aggressively priced it. Supra,
> > Inc. arranged a short-term exclusivity arrangement with Rockwell, and
> > developed the SupraFAXModem 14400based on it. Introduced in January 1992 at
> > $399 (or less), it was half the price of the slower V.32 modems already on
> > the market. This led to a price war, and by the end of the year V.32 was
> > dead, never having been really established, and V.32bis modems were widely
> > available for $250.V.32bis was so successful that the older high-speed
> > standards had little to recommend them. USR fought back with a 16,800 bit/s
> > version of HST, while AT introduced a one-off 19,200 bit/s method they
> > referred to as V.32ter, but neither non-standard modem sold well."
> >
> > And:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modem
> >
> > V.34/28.8 kbit/s and 33.6 kbit/s
> >
> > ×
> >
> > ×
> >
> >
> > "Any interest in these proprietary improvements was destroyed during the
> > lengthy introduction of the 28,800 bit/s V.34 standard. While waiting,
> > several companies decided to release hardware and introduced modems they
> > referred to as V.FAST. In order to guarantee compatibility with V.34 modems
> > once the standard was ratified (1994), the manufacturers were forced to use
> > more flexible parts, generally a DSP and microcontroller, as opposed to
> > purpose-designed ASIC modem chips.
> > "The ITU standard V.34 represents the culmination of the joint efforts. It
> > employs the most powerful coding techniques including channel encoding and
> > shape encoding. From the mere four bits per symbol (9.6 kbit/s), the new
> > standards used the functional equivalent of 6 to 10 bits per symbol, plus
> > increasing baud rates from 2,400 to 3,429, to create 14.4, 28.8, and
> > 33.6 kbit/s modems. This rate is near the theoretical Shannon limit. When
> > calculated, the Shannon capacity of a narrowband line is {\displaystyle
> > {\text{bandwidth}}\times \log _{2}(1+P_{u}/P_{n})}, with {\displaystyle
> > P_{u}/P_{n}} the (linear) signal-to-noise ratio. Narrowband phone lines have
> > a bandwidth of 3,000 Hz so using {\displaystyle P_{u}/P_{n}=1000} (SNR =
> > 30 dB), the capacity is approximately 30 kbit/s.[7]

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Re: Assasination Politics - Frequently Asked Questions

[John Newman]

> On Dec 18, 2018, at 7:41 PM, jim bell  wrote:
> 
>   "  2) wouldn't AP be used to lynch people that the mob dislikes? Say, black 
> people in places with a majority of trump voters. "
> 
> 
> Before I had written and published the first part of my AP essay, I 
> anticipated that once such a system started, it might actually be somewhat 
> dangerous to be a "famous" person.  (But I don't recall actually stating this 
> in the essay; I need to go back and remind myself what I wrote!)At least, 
> it would be far safer to be essentially unknown. And, other people since 
> then have thought of the same possibility.   Today, you can have an actor who 
> is famous for playing villains.   What  happens in an AP-operating world, 
> where people (including somewhat mentally-unstable people) think of this 
> actor as being a 'bad guy'?
> 
> One partial answer might simply be:  Actors who play 'bad guys' will probably 
> have to be paid more, to compensate them for their risk!   But of course, once


LOL! That your thinking has only gone this deep on this particular issue,
“actors playing bad guys might be killed by the AP mob, so they will get to
demand a higher salary to pay their security retinue”, doesn’t show a whole lot
of deep thinking or intellectual curiosity, Jim :P.  I find your stories of IC
work much more interesting.

The way AP is designed, these “juries” (comprised of who?) are not a
requirement, and there could always be multiple AP markets, some with or without
these “juries”. Or some with wholly state-controlled “juries”.

What if state-actors were to put a hit on you?  And anyone else who has publicly
avowed for or otherwise is known to support AP?  That might serve as a slight
chilling concept on the whole thing.

Or maybe you’d be considered a martyr, as opposed to the victim of his own
murderous system, and the people would finally rise up and, as you say,  the
government would fall :P.


> most or possibly all AP-organizations employ 'juries' to limit the people who 
> are ultimately targeted, it should be difficult to find an AP organization 
> that would accept those contracts...unless that actor truly was a 'bad guy'!!!
> 
> Jim Bell
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Re: Documentary: Stateless - Anarchy Emigrates by Todd Schramke

[John Newman]

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 09:26:04PM +, jim bell wrote:
>  On Monday, December 17, 2018, 8:38:43 PM PST, grarpamp  
> wrote:
>  
>  
>  >>> These guys are a joke, trying to capitilize on anarchy to push forward
> >>> their own agentas. I am disgusted.
> >> Is there any transparency
> 
> >Anarchism is free to capitalize, agenda, critique, and disclose.
> >Does such localized voluntary hierarchical capitalism offend anarchism?
> 
> I've never thought that there must necessarily be anything wrong with 
> truly-voluntary heirarchical structures.  Clubs with presidents and other 
> officers, for instance.

Nor I, but what I do find disturbing are people trying to monetize an
ideology about freedom, particularly when they are known shysters.

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Re: Tim May's Passing Confirmed

[John Newman]

On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 07:47:42PM +, jim bell wrote:
>  Tim May was very well-known in the 1979-era for his discovery that alpha 
> particles (helium nuclei) caused data-read errors in then-current technology 
> DRAMs.  
> (An article from the last year or two incorrectly stated that we met; I think 
> that was simply a misinterpretation of the fact that I also worked for Intel 
> during 1980-82. But, I worked in Oregon, Aloha-3 specifically; I believe May 
> worked in Santa Clara. I never visited any Intel locations outside Oregon; I 
> do not recall that Tim May ever visited Oregon.) 
> One of the very minor things I did while working at Intel involved Kapton 
> (polyimide) 'shims' that were being experimented with to protect against such 
> errors caused by alpha particles.  A rectangular sheet of very thin plastic 
> was attached over the DRAM chip.  Due to the very-low penetration 
> characteristic of alphas, this was plenty to stop them from striking the 
> surface of the chip.  As part of the development and evaluation process, it 
> was occasionally necessary to remove those shims from assembled devices. 
> Peeling them off frequently destroyed the chip:  I used a tiny part of my 
> Chemistry knowledge to recommend the use of the solvent, DMF (dimethyl 
> formamide) to assist in this removal process, in a way which did not risk 
> damage to the chip itself.  
> The reason Intel had the problem of alpha particles was its heavy use of 
> "cerdip" packages. http://eesemi.com/cerdip.htm    (short for "ceramic dual 
> inline package")   Cerdip looks vaguely like an Oreo cookie, with two ceramic 
> plates attached with a glass 'glue'.  That ceramic had tiny amounts of 
> radioactive elements in it; not a lot, but it didn't take much to produce a 
> significant amount of alphas.  Cerdip was used because it achieved a hermetic 
> seal, but it was cheaper than a different kind of ceramic packaging.   
> http://www.globalchipmaterials.com/visitors/products_visitors.htm 
> Had they packaged their DRAMs in plastic, that would have been a vast 
> improvement, actually virtually eliminating the problem:  Production of 
> plastics go through chemical processes where their components (monomers) are 
> distilled, and so they contain virtually no radioactive atoms.  But they 
> couldn't immediately shift to using plastic packaging, because such packages 
> were not hermetically sealed:  Packaged in plastic, water from the 
> environment eventually found its way to the chip itself.  The problem with 
> that is that this water slowly reacted with one component of the glass, 
> phosphorus-containing 'pyroglass'.  (a related material was 'pyrox')   These 
> phosphorus glasses slowly reacted with that moisture to generate phosphoric 
> acid, and in turn that slowly corroded the very thin aluminum conductors 
> making up interconnects in that chip. 
> Fixing the problem caused by alpha particles eventually required changing the 
> chip process so that it didn't require hermetic packaging, making plastic 
> packaging workable. 
>            Jim Bell

Fascinating. I enjoy reading the TUHS (The Unix Heritage Society) list,
for posts similar to this - except they tend to be about software,
specifically old versions of UNIX :P

RIP Tim May.


>                
> 
> 
> On Saturday, December 15, 2018, 10:44:21 AM PST, John Young 
>  wrote:  
>  
>  This confirms Tim May's passing, by long-time cpunk, Lucky Green
> 
> Dear Friends, It is with sadness that news reaches me of the passing 
> of my dear friend Tim May - Cypherpunks co-Founder, Discoverer of 
> Radiation-Induced Single Even Upsets in Integrated Circuits, and 
> Uncompromising Firearms Proponent: Tweet: 
> https://twitter.com/luckygreen/status/1073925779304693760 Obit: 
> https://www.facebook.com/lucky.green.73/posts/10155498914786706 Ad 
> Astra, Tim! --Lucky 
> 
> 
>   

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Re: Documentary: Stateless - Anarchy Emigrates by Todd Schramke

[John Newman]

On Sun, Dec 16, 2018 at 09:42:00PM +, furrier wrote:
> These guys are a joke, trying to capitilize on anarchy to push forward their 
> own agentas. I am disgusted.

+1

Is there any transparency in where the fees go? How much the organizers
spend & _make_ on this whole fucking thing?

I just opened up the (gaudy as fuck) website, the first thing you see:

   HOLIDAY SALE HAPPENING NOW! 2 Anarchapulco Tickets 5 Nights At Princess
   Mundo Imperial Hotel Regular Price $1,715, Now Only $1,515

Jeff Berwick looks like a straight fucking con man to me. Check out his
website, where he sells "subscriptions" to his financial newsletter -

   https://dollarvigilante.com/subscribe/

The checkout page accepts credit cards and paypal - no crypto currencies
accepted to pay for this supposed crypto-currency newsletter :P

> 
> 
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Sunday, December 16, 2018 9:24 PM, juan  wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 16 Dec 2018 13:39:36 -0500
> > grarpamp grarp...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > Tickets for Anarchapulco 2019: https://anarchapulco.com/
> >
> > LMAO
> >
> > 545 dollars to listen to a bunch of right wing assholes, many of whom are 
> > the 'leaders' of the americunt fake libertarian movement.
> >
> > wrong paul? motherfucker scumbag jeffrey tucker? napolitano? fucking 
> > asshole casey, accomplice of argie politicians? berwick, 'ex' salesman for 
> > casey scams, and 'entrepreneur' selling his own scam in chile? et cetera, 
> > et cetera.
> >
> > 'anarchapulco' tickets are 600 bucks but the involuntary self parody is 
> > priceless =)
> 
> 

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Re: Quantum Gap

[John Newman]

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 04:23:55PM -0300, juan wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 18:45:36 + (UTC)
> jim bell  wrote:
> 
> 
> > Secondly, I did in fact comment. 
> 
>   Yes, my bad and I apologize. 
> 
> > See the reference above to the movie, Dr. Strangelove.  
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybSzoLCCX-Y=94s      At 4:13.   Maybe you 
> > (maybe even the large majority of you?)  are just way too young to have 
> > seen this movie. 
> 
>   haha I wish I was way too young  - Anyway, I know the movie is a 
> classic of sorts. I think it's an anti war movie to some degree. And i even 
> tried watching it a while back but didn't find it interesting (but maybe I 
> should try again)
> 

It's pretty fucking funny. Peter Sellers is hilarious. Maybe the
funniest thing about all of it is what Daniel Ellsberg and some of his
colleagues at the RAND corporation said to each other when they came out
of seeing it at a movie theater in 1964: 

"That was a documentary"

Ellsberg did some nasty nuclear work with the RAND people long
before the pentagon papers came out... he wrote a decent book about
it (fairly) recently.

https://www.wired.com/2018/03/geeks-guide-doctor-strangelove/

There's a link in the above to a (podcast) interview with Ellsberg
that is pretty interesting.


> 
> 
> > Sorry that you didn't get the joke.
> 
>   nah, I'm fully to blame =)
>   
>   So I guess  bottom line is that current propaganda has already been 
> ridiculed in fiction just like the current dystopian world was predicted by 
> Huxley and Orwell.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >                         Jim Bell
> > ×
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > 
> >     
> >     
> > 
> >     
> > 
> >   
> 

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Re: BCH finally hit the fan

[John Newman]

On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 01:31:38PM +, Karl wrote:
> Came up with a counterargument:
> 
> The rich few already control the many perhaps via lobbying, bribing,
> black markets, but AP makes the process transparent, resulting in an
> environment that is actually safer than before.

I think it largely depends on what percentage of the population, thats
Joe Six-pack, would actually contribute to a directed assassination
program against their beloved gubment.  How would the the money
which that percentage of the population can come up with stack up
against the money that the ruling-class oligarchs can come up with,
should they choose to take advantage of and subvert an AP system
for themselves?  I don't think there are enough people willing to
actively contribute to AP to make it happen, I just get the feeling
that the average American isn't going to chip in $5 to have their
local police station blown up (or whatever).

Of course, this is all presuming that any of the police states we
live in would ever let such a thing get off the ground. The technology
is not there yet. Will it ever be there, when the government is
tapped into central peering points all over the fucking world, and
has top talent hackers working around the clock to track down and
disrupt this kind of shit? 

I'm cynical - about AP, about humanity, about the chances of ever
divesting ourself of what seems to be the plotted destination for
civilization: dystopia for the masses.



> 
> Karl
> 
> On 12/11/18, Karl  wrote:
> > Hi Jim Bell,
> >
> > I sent you a message some time ago when I heard about this idea, but I
> > didn't get a reply.
> >
> > If you receive this e-mail, this is my misunderstanding:
> >
> > As it offers a market, doesn't AP give life-and-death power to those
> > with the most money?
> >
> > Wouldn't this provide for the set of people with the most money to
> > bend power more and more towards themselves, eventually producing a
> > situation where a few select people control the many?
> >
> > Personally, I support cryptocurrency, but I foremost support power to
> > be given to those with good _reasons_, rather than strong _financial_
> > resources, and systems to be put into place allowing these reasons to
> > be discussed without censorship.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Karl
> >
> > On 12/11/18, jim bell  wrote:
> >>  furrier 
> >> Furrier:
> >> I notice that you haven't responded to my comment.  Do you not have any
> >> answer?  You claim to not "agree" with me.   If that were the case, you
> >> should be able to explain why.
> >> Why don't you think AP could work?  What do you believe wouldn't work
> >> about
> >> it?
> >>  Jim Bell
> >>
> >> On Sunday, December 9, 2018, 11:22:37 PM PST, jim bell
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>   [apparently the address for the CP list wasn't the one I normally use]
> >>   My comments inline:
> >>
> >> On Sunday, December 9, 2018, 3:23:09 PM PST, furrier
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>  >I watched you live both in Acapulco and Prague. I don't agree with you
> >> and I don't understand how can people be so naive to think that AP
> >> can actually work.
> >>
> >> Prior to the invention of the RSA encryption system (public-key) the vast
> >> majority of the population would not have understood how such a thing
> >> could
> >> work.Prior to the invention of the TOR system, the vast majority of the
> >> population would not have understood how such a thing could work.Prior to
> >> the invention of Bitcoin, the vast majority of the population would not
> >> have
> >> understood how such a thing could work.Prior to the invention of
> >> Ethereum,
> >> the vast majority of the population would not have understood how such a
> >> thing could work.
> >> But does the opinion of the public determine whether a given invention
> >> can
> >> work?   Your statement implies that the opinion of the masses is somehow
> >> determinative of whether a technical advance should work.
> >> Can you explain why you think that AP shouldn't work?  Today?   Your
> >> position would have sounded plausible in 1995-96.  Then, your technical
> >> ignorance approximated virtually everyone else's.  But a lot has happened
> >> since then.
> >>
> >>
> >>  >I am against the whole idea
> >>
> >> I am fond of pointing out that governments killed about 250 million
> >> people
> >> in the 20th century.   See "Democide".
> >>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide   (although, the definition
> >> varies;
> >> some people don't consider people killed in war to be victims of
> >> Democide.
> >> I consider that position to be insanely foolish.)  Were you against that?
> >> If you were, how important do (or did) you think it was that this murder
> >> be
> >> stopped?
> >> If you agree that it was wrong that governments murdered 250 million
> >> people
> >> in the 20th century, then it is inaccurate to say you are against the
> >> WHOLE
> >> idea of AP.  Because most people seem to agree that if AP was
> >> implemented,
> >> 

Re: BCH finally hit the fan

[John Newman]

> On Dec 7, 2018, at 12:37 PM, furrier  wrote:
> 
> I will disagree with you here. Craig may be an idiot and
> the fact that he holds patents makes him dangerous but he
> does not have the network effect that the BCH "community" has.
> They are all over the place when it comes to fake
> libertarianism. I attended Anarchapulco last February, these


Did you get to watch Jim Bell speak ?  :P


> guys are FAR MORE DANGEROUS than Faketoshi. Both of these
> shitcoins are meant to go down.
> 
> 
> Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
> 
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Monday, December 3, 2018 12:49 AM, juan  wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 02 Dec 2018 23:25:52 +
>> furrier furr...@protonmail.ch wrote:
>> 
>>> FYI I don't give a flying fuck about BSV and I consider
>>> Faketoshi an idiot and dangerous scammer but I really
>>> enjoyed this guy's breakdown of the BCH problems that
>>> were made apparent after the split. Instead of making
>>> assumptions, you could just ask.
>> 
>>My mistake, I apologize then.
>> 
>> 
>> However, the article is unimpressive because the author tries to present 
>> himself as "politically unbiased" while in reality he's a partisan for the 
>> worst bitcoin faction, that of wright. All 3 bitcoin factions are less than 
>> ideal but wright's is by far the worst.
> 
> 

Re: snowden and the billionaire monkeys on our back

[John Newman]

On Thu, Dec 06, 2018 at 05:39:41PM -0300, juan wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 21:17:12 +1100
> Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Dec 05, 2018 at 07:47:55PM -0500, Steve Kinney wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 12/5/18 3:20 PM, John Newman wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Long interview with guy who just wrote a book about faux-philanthropic
> > > > leaders of the new gilded age (or something ;) 
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.truthdig.com/articles/silicon-billionaires-are-the-lethal-monkey-on-the-back-of-the-american-public/
> 
> 
>   is there a snowden video in that page? If so can I have a direct link? 
> =) Thanks!

No video in the truthdig article that I saw, no. I'd be curious to see
it too :)

I did a very quick search - it was the 2015 Summit of the Sea, there's a
pretty crass article I found here -

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3328277/Silicon-Valley-sea-Titans-tech-pay-10-000-party-networking-cruise-offers-sunrise-yoga-world-class-cuisine-live-talk-Edward-Snowden-no-Wi-Fi.html

And no doubt more shit about it online, maybe a video of the Snowden
talk somewhere... if you find it, send me a link.


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Re: snowden and the billionaire monkeys on our back

[John Newman]

On December 5, 2018 6:47:55 PM CST, Steve Kinney  wrote:
>
>
>On 12/5/18 3:20 PM, John Newman wrote:
>> 
>> Long interview with guy who just wrote a book about
>faux-philanthropic
>> leaders of the new gilded age (or something ;) 
>> 
>>
>https://www.truthdig.com/articles/silicon-billionaires-are-the-lethal-monkey-on-the-back-of-the-american-public/
>> 
>> 
>> Interesting part where he described Snowden talking to a bunch of
>> these people, this "clash of ideals"  - 
>
>> [... snip ...] 
>
>> It was a very interesting vision, and as he started describing, well,
>> the way I’m going to do that is I’m going to build all these tools
>that
>> would allow dissidents to actually operate more freely. A
>communication
>> tool so you can message without getting caught, a Facebook “like”
>tool
>> so you can socially network without losing your privacy, some kind of
>> tokenized identity so you can make clear to different websites that
>> you’re the same person without revealing which person you are–various
>> things. Snowden was describing the creation of all these things
>because
>> he wanted to live in a world in which dissent of the kind that he
>made
>> is possible, in which it’s possible to go up against power and not be
>> interrupted in that quest; that’s his motivation, his goal. 
>
>
>> And it’s like they couldn’t process him; they couldn’t process his
>set
>> of motivations. And so Chris Sacca says, wow, you sound like you’re
>> designing a lot of tools that, they sound like apps, or startup–do
>you
>> want to build a startup? I mean, there’s a lot of people here who
>would
>> like to be your investor. Snowden just looked at him, puzzled,
>like–what
>> are you talking about? I’m talking about freedom and heresy and
>truth,
>> and being a dissident, and how a society corrects itself from
>manifest
>> injustices through allowing people who have an uncomfortable truth to
>> tell it. And you’re talking about startups? And it was just this
>> wonderful collision between someone who believes in real changes, and
>> these people who kind of believe in the pseudo-change that lines
>their
>> own pockets."
>
>Um, that's not what it reads like to me.  I see Snowden saying he wants
>to accomplish all these wonderful things that enable political dissent
>and freedom via network technology.  Then he refuses to have anything
>to
>do with implementing that vision, going so far as to pretend that he
>does not understand that building and distributing software and
>infrastructure is HOW to achieve goals like the ones he mentioned.  It
>sounds like he chose to literally "play dumb" when presented with a
>room
>full of people who wanted a shot at implementing his ideas (vs.
>memorized talking points) in real life.
>


I think the discussion was trying to shoe-horn Snowden into some sort of heroic 
role that fits some ideas in the book, maybe. I've not read it, and as you say 
Snowden is a really bizarre case. Greenwald etc. cashed the fuck out, Snowden 
is living seemingly happily in Russia (the only person any "progressive" grants 
an immediate pass for happily working and living in Russia), and the whole 
affair more or less does look like a win for the US security services.

I did glance at the book's Amazon listing, and it has a hilarious little blurb 
from Bill Gates about being a must read, which seems hilariously ironic, based 
on how the book is touted.



>The more I look at Snowden, the less sense he makes:  Both in terms of
>what he says (see above), and in terms of a biography and current
>public
>presentation that more or less defy explanation.
>
>To date, the only Snowden scenario that makes sense to me portrays him
>as a spokesmodel:  In effect a sock puppet passed from hand to hand.
>Did he have anything at all to do with "borrowing" certain documents
>and
>handing them off to Glen Greenwald?  I have no opinion on that.  The
>documents Greenwald released triggered a massive controversy over a
>small set of political / legal issues that all ended with decisive wins
>for the U.S. intelligence community.  In my view whether that means
>Snowden failed or succeeded remains an open question.
>
>Pending additional information, I would more likely trust a guy named
>"Mendax" than him.
>
>:o/

Re: Cyberpunk, Stasi Spies Youth SubCulture

[John Newman]

On Mon, Nov 26, 2018 at 08:34:19PM -0500, grarpamp wrote:
> East German secret police guide for identifying youth subcultures (1985)
> 
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18532842
> https://twitter.com/industrial_book/status/1066411965004812288
> https://twitter.com/TurnerMarko/status/1066830331288973314
> 
> 
>  x220 3 hours ago [-]
> 
> One subculture I got somewhat involved in was the internet
> cyberpunk-hacker culture, until about a year ago. Communicating
> through 4chan threads, alt-chans, and IRC channels, these users were
> always interesting to read from on various topics such as cyberpunk
> media, politics, current events, hacking, software, fashion, and
> travel.
> 
> I'm dismayed that it petered out. I see the cyberpunk form of art and
> worldview as more useful with each passing year.
> 
> reply
>   
>   
> peterwwillis 23 minutes ago [-]
> 
> What was the cyberpunk worldview? Afaik it was something along the
> lines of "the world is run by vast networks of shadowy dystopian
> entities and we must use cryptography to resist this so we can have
> freedom" (basically, Information Technology libertarians)
> 
> reply
>   
>   
> westmeal 18 minutes ago [-]
> 
> That's the cypherpunks. Cyberpunks are 'high tech low lifes'.
> 
> reply
>   
>   
> wavefunction 19 minutes ago [-]
> 
> That's cypherpunks.
> 
> reply
>   
>   
> malvosenior 2 hours ago [-]
> 
> Do you have any theories as to why it petered out? Like you I feel
> it's more relevant today than ever before but also can't find a
> growing or healthy community with that mindset anymore.
> 
> reply
>   
>   
> x220 2 hours ago [-]
> 
> Aside from conspiracy-theorizing about current events (and I don't use
> that term pejoratively), people tended to discuss the same topics. New
> cyberpunk media doesn't come out very often, so people tended to talk
> about the same books, movies, manga, anime, videogames, and fashion.
> Some of the alt-chans with dedicated cyberpunk boards would run out of
> ideas to talk about pretty quickly, since there weren't enough posts
> that the website had to prune old threads like 4chan did.
> 
> Another hypothesis I have is that cyberpunk media is not as
> captivating as it used to be since we arguably live in a cyberpunk
> world. In America there is unimaginable wealth inequality, with some
> cities having insane costs of rent for cramped apartments, with access
> to the best technology and medicine in the world but only if you can
> afford it. We also don't have to use media to imagine a world where
> digital corporations have a huge amount of power over daily life and
> the government spies on everyone all the time since both of those
> things are happening right now. I think we live in a cyberpunk world,
> it just doesn't have huge buildings, neon lights, and widespread punk
> fashion.
> 
> I came in contact with a few guys who wanted to make another alt-chan
> with a different model (see what other users are typing in real-time,
> and all posts get deleted early in the morning) but it never
> materialized as far as I can tell.
> 
> Edit: do any of you want to join an online cyberpunk community?
> 
> reply
>   
>   
> ebullientocelot 1 hour ago [-]
> 
> I don't think your two points are mutually exclusive, and suspect they
> are both correct to one degree or another. I live in a second-tier
> city working for a second-tier company and my daily life is already
> fairly cyberpunk! During the day I actively work on the advertising
> economy surveillance state, and at home I do things like install the
> Pi-Hole for my family and try to help anybody who will listen reduce
> their target profile for the eye in the sky. I mention this,
> particularly that my city and company are second-tier, because you
> don't have to work at FAANGM in SV to experience these things.
> 
> There is definitely a sense in which I would be interested in at least
> checking out a cyberpunk community, but as other have mentioned, it's
> more or less culture now.
> 
> reply
>   
>   
> ip26 1 hour ago [-]
> 
> Another challenge is when your alt culture goes mainstream, now it's
> just culture. The alt community has to tack deeper to the extremes to
> stay alt. You don't need an alt board to talk about current events
> (aside from conspiracy theories)
> 
> reply
>   
>   
> ebullientocelot 59 minutes ago [-]
> 
> While this is true, I still experience a little of that
> early-exposure-to-the-Internet sense of wonder when I stumble across a
> community that's off the beaten path technologically. sdf.org's Gopher
> service was such an experience in the past couple years.
> 
> reply
>   
>   
> starbeast 2 hours ago [-]
> 
> Not an online one. If it was a BBS running on a cube sat, then maybe.
> 
> reply
>   
>   
> n-exploit 2 hours ago [-]
> 
> Maybe it's time to create anew.
> 
> reply
>   
>   
> eindiran 2 hours ago [-]
> 
> Are you considering 

A third of "dark-web" taken down by hack...

[John Newman]

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/11/21/hacker-erases-6500-sites-from-the-dark-web/

I don't know if the numbers are accurate, but it shows remarkable 
centralization of hidden services, which seems to (obviously) be a bad idea



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Re: of elephants and men

[John Newman]

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 03:03:44PM +1100, Alfie John wrote:
> Hey Zenaan,
> 
> Are your posts always off topic to Cypherpunks? Maybe other people disagree 
> with me, but I somehow feel your purpose here is to make users unsubscribe 樂

The answer is: yes, basically. Not only off-topic, but the most inane
racist propaganda bullshit pulled, generally, from a small handful of
toxic sites for the highly credulous. 

Znn is toxic.  Kill-file him, as I've done, and it spares you the
wasted time :)

cheers,
John

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Re: Yet another reason to call him #$%& Re: yet another reason...

[John Newman]

On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 05:05:09PM -0400, Steve Kinney wrote:
> 
> 
> On 10/21/18 6:46 PM, juan wrote:
> > On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:12:22 -0400
> > Steve Kinney  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >> The high volume of torrent traffic over i2p, 
> > 
> > 
> > I wasn't aware that i2p is mainly used for torrents? 
> 
> I don't recall the statistics but I would guess that torrents account
> for at least 95% of the traffic on that network.  Maybe more like
> 99-point-something percent.
> 
> > Last time I checked their eepsites(or whatever they are called) I 
> > didn't find anythign interesting or 'criminal'. In other words, nobody 
> > seems to be using i2p to host anything of value. And I saw more than a few 
> > sites that looked that like russian honeypots. 
> 
> A website on the i2p network (eepsite) can host any files the user puts
> in the site's /docroot directory.  That would include subdirectories
> with their own index pages, not publicly advertised and available only
> to "confidential" correspondents who know the names of the subdirectory
> and index pages in question.  That's not quite a "digital dead drop" but
> comes close.
> 
> I used to run a moderately popular eepsite and seeded lotsa torrents.
> "Who" I was and what I may have distributed aside from publicly
> advertised content is for me to know and others to guess.  Let's just
> say I did it as an exercise and for amusement purposes only.  Last time
> I checked, some of the stuff I seeded out was still bouncing around in
> there years later.  :o)
> 
> >> and the lng duration of
> >> typical downloads (25kbps counts as 'decent speed' in there), greatly
> >> complicate matters for anyone doing traffic analysis, compared to the
> >> hit-and-run pattern of TOR usage that typically lights up an entry and
> >> exit router for just a few minutes per user session, during which easily
> >> fingerprinted clusters of packets, all of them "of interest" to
> >> potential adversaries, flow thick and fast.
> > 
> > 
> > Which is exactly the reason why  torscum should be promoting the use of 
> > their network for filesharing...if they were honestly interested in 
> > protecting userswhich of course they are not. 
> 
> The Tor Project's position on torrent traffic never made sense to me.
> More users and more traffic add up to more security.  If casual users
> see a bit more lag, so what?  In every instance where security vs. end
> user arises convenience arises, TOR chooses convenience.
> 
> I was also very disappointed when the TOR Browser distribution dropped
> support for router configuration; now they have done away with the last
> scrap of that. "The Tor circuit display has been relocated and improved!
> Click the Site Identity button (located on the left side of the URL bar)
> to see the new circuit display" is a lie; there's no such button in the
> update I just installed (ver 8.03), which presents the quoted text on
> its 'update completed' page, but nothing related in any menu accessible
> to the user.
> 
> The browser's configuration menu does present "new identity" and "new
> circuit for this site" buttons; that's all, folks!  The "Donate Now"
> link on the TOR welcome page does work though.
> 
> >> than they would consider acceptable if they knew about
> >> them.  The reluctance of intelligence services to reveal their
> >> capabilities by acting on what they know too often provides the best
> >> protection most users can get...
> > 
> > 
> > ...but that didn't work too well for ulbricht and a few others like 
> > him...
> 
> I would say it worked exactly as expected for Ulbricht and a few others
> like him:  Always expect a faulty cost/benefit estimate produces net
> loss results.

The agora guys made it out alive. They shut down when it got hot (and
were unaffected by the 2014 Onymous tor busts). I'd be curioius to know
what kind of profit the operator(s) of Agora made it out with.

Alphabay got busted though, and I don't even know who the "big" darkweb
markets are these days... Source locally, its my motto ;)

> 
> :o/
> 
> 
> 




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Re: [PEACE] - African children denied homeland by Whites^BChinese - [MINISTRY]

[John Newman]

On October 4, 2018 11:13:03 PM CDT, juan  wrote:
>On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 13:14:44 +1000
>Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
>
>> A reminder for those who missed the memo:
>> 
>>  Ann Coulter:
>
>   fascist cunt, deserves to be beaten to death.

I'd put some AP moneyz in for that one. ;)