Re: A problem compiling Qpopper

1997-09-10 Thread Scott K. Ellis
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On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Bruno O. M. Simoes wrote:

 I can't compile qpopper because it asks a library called *lshadow*. With
 this, qpopper could recognize shadow passwords (and that's what I want).
 The debian compiled qpopper can do this, so they have this lib.
 Where do I find this lib?
 Is this lib in some package that I can install?

Shadow is built into the C library under linux, simply tell it that you
have shadow passwords and remove the -lshadow definition from the
makefile.

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Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

1997-09-10 Thread Simon Karpen
Right now, my personal system has a Micropolis Stinger (5400rpm 4.3GB,
Ultra SCSI), and hasn't had any problems. The drive is a bit noisy, but
seems to be very solid. I've never had any real problems with Quantum drives,
but I can say to stay away from any form of Conner/Seagate/Western Digital
drives. The failure rates are *horrible*. I've also heard many good things
about the recent IBM drives.

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Re.: RE: uuencode/uudecode?

1997-09-10 Thread Alan Eugene Davis

Thanks for the pointer.  Looks like I overlooked at least one
package.  Also, thanks for the lesson in shell syntax.

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Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

1997-09-10 Thread Tommy Lakofski
Unfortunately, my experience is somewhat different -- I've had a Quantum
Grand Prix 4.3GB die on me (dead spindle) after 10 months (and my office
had 4 other identical models die with dead spindles and data errors); a
micropolis 1GB ages ago die after 18 months (another dead spindle), and
I've known of WD quality control problems (caviar 1.6GB wrong cleaning
fluid recall...) 

I'm using a Seagate 2GB 5400rpm now... hopefully a slow drive won't run
too hot and kill the bearings... I think if you keep a drive cool it'll
have a better chance at longevity.

If reliability is your primary objective, rather than cost, buy two drives
and mirror them. There's really no other alternative that will drastically
reduce your risk of hardware failure. If you've really got money to burn,
run them on a RAID controller too -- hardware RAID offers performance far
better than software mirroring.

TL

On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Simon Karpen wrote:

 From: Simon Karpen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:26:56 -0400 (EDT)
 Subject: Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive
 
 Right now, my personal system has a Micropolis Stinger (5400rpm 4.3GB,
 Ultra SCSI), and hasn't had any problems. The drive is a bit noisy, but
 seems to be very solid. I've never had any real problems with Quantum drives,
 but I can say to stay away from any form of Conner/Seagate/Western Digital
 drives. The failure rates are *horrible*. I've also heard many good things
 about the recent IBM drives.


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Problem with libc5 and Motif

1997-09-10 Thread Jens Kerle

hi,

maybe i better should sleep, but i did this:
i have debian 1.3.1 on my working system, and a older , non-debian system
with Motif 2.0 . So i cp'd all Motif files to the working one.

But there is one problem:
ven# gimp
gimp: can't resolve symbol '__ctype_get_mb_cur_max'

ven# /usr/bin/nm /oldsys/lib/libc.so.5.0.9|grep __ctype_get_mb_cur_max
nothing :(

ven# /usr/bin/nm /oldsys/lib/libc.so.5.4.4|grep __ctype_get_mb_cur_max
00033680 T __ctype_get_mb_cur_max

ven# /usr/bin/nm /lib/libc.so.5.4.33 |grep __ctype_get_mb_cur_max
/lib/libc.so.5.4.33: no symbols

what does this say ?

ven# /usr/bin/file /lib/libc.so.5.4.33 
/lib/libc.so.5.4.33: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 386, version 1,
stripped


ven# /usr/bin/nm /lib/libc.so.6  
/lib/libc.so.6: no symbols

same


so what to do ?

simple thing, just for test i rm'd the link of libc.so.5
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root   14 Sep 10 01:00 /lib/libc.so.5 -
libc.so.5.4.33
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   573176 Jun 12 04:05 /lib/libc.so.5.4.33
-rwxr-xr-x   1 root root   719963 Sep 10 00:28
/lib/libc.so.5.4.4

hm...hmjmmm life isn't worth anything without libc.so.5 ;))

sync worked, no reboot, shutdown nothing 
So i made the link from the old system, result:
motif works, but things like tcsh won't .

So, what to do ?



Jens


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Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

1997-09-10 Thread Rob Browning
Terrence Brannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 We would like a SCSI 4GB hard disk to connect to our PC running Debian
 Linux 1.3. We may occassionally want to connect it to our Alpha's running
 Redhat Alpha 4.0. 
 
 We want reliability first. Then cost second.

I've had really good luck with the latest Seaagte Barracudas.  They're
very fast, but quite expensive.  I've also heard that their cheaper
drives might be troublesome.

IBM also apparently has some really good drives now.

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Xemacs and cperl-mode

1997-09-10 Thread Carl Johnson
I have recently been trying to edit some perl scripts using xemacs, so
I tried using the cperl-mode instead of perl-mode.  I set the autoload
and auto-mode-alist as recommended in the cperl-mode.el file and then
re-started xemacs.  It appears that I still get perl-mode, but I am
not sure how to tell which I am actually using.  I tried printing out
some of the values of the variables mentioned in the cperl-mode file,
but none of them are present.  On the other hand I can print out the
perl-mode variables mentioned in the perl-mode file.  I am running the
xemacs package 19.14-1 from the stable tree of Debian 1.3.1.

The following are the relevant lines from my ~/.emacs file:

(autoload 'perl-mode cperl-mode alternate mode for editing Perl programs t)
(setq cperl-hairy t)
(setq auto-mode-alist
(append '((\\.[pP][Llm]$ . perl-mode))  auto-mode-alist ))
(setq interpreter-mode-alist (append interpreter-mode-alist
'((miniperl . perl-mode

I would appreciate any tips on what I am doing wrong, and how to get
to cperl-mode.
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cdrom

1997-09-10 Thread Tao Lu
Hi:

I first time try Linux. After install base system and boot up, I use
dselect to set package. Although the cdrom is installed succefully
during driver disk, the dselect ask me following:

Insert the CD-ROM and enter the block device name [/dev/cdrom]:

What is the block device name I should enter?





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Re: cdrom

1997-09-10 Thread Tommy Lakofski
On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Tao Lu wrote:

 I first time try Linux. After install base system and boot up, I use
 dselect to set package. Although the cdrom is installed succefully
 during driver disk, the dselect ask me following:
 
 Insert the CD-ROM and enter the block device name [/dev/cdrom]:
 
 What is the block device name I should enter?

This depends upon what kind of CD-ROM drive you have. If it's SCSI, it's
probably /dev/scd0. If it's ATAPI, it's probably /dev/hdb or /dev/hdc. If
it's a proprietary CD-ROM protocol, try 'ls /dev/*cd*' to see all the
possibilities -- choose the right block device for your drive.

TL


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Re: netbook and diskless workstations

1997-09-10 Thread Jim Pick

 Is it possible to use netboot to boot
 these machines from floppy to run off of one of the debian machines?

I don't know about netboot - but the nfsroot package does this.  

Pretty slick.  :-)

Cheers,

 - Jim





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Re: cdrom

1997-09-10 Thread Jim Pick

 Hi:
 
 I first time try Linux. After install base system and boot up, I use
 dselect to set package. Although the cdrom is installed succefully
 during driver disk, the dselect ask me following:
 
 Insert the CD-ROM and enter the block device name [/dev/cdrom]:
 
 What is the block device name I should enter?

Depends on what (and where) your CD ROM is.

If you have an ATAPI CD-ROM (most common), it might be installed as /dev/hdb,
/dev/hdc, or /dev/hdd.

There are other possibilities - one of my machines has a Goldstar CD
attached to a Reveal sound card - that's /dev/gscd.

You might want to symlink the real device name to /dev/cdrom
  ie.  ln -s /dev/hdd /dev/cdrom

Cheers,

 - Jim



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looking for opinions on scsi adapter cards

1997-09-10 Thread butch
hello,

i am looking to build my own computer system and i think scsi is the best
way to go for pure performance. so iwas wondering about what the members
here like?

allan


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Re: cdrom

1997-09-10 Thread Mike Schmitz
On Tue, Sep 09, 1997 at 07:41:00PM +0100, Tao Lu wrote:
 Hi:
 
 I first time try Linux. After install base system and boot up, I use
 dselect to set package. Although the cdrom is installed succefully
 during driver disk, the dselect ask me following:
 
 Insert the CD-ROM and enter the block device name [/dev/cdrom]:
 
 What is the block device name I should enter?
 

The easiest way to find out is with te use of 'dmesg'. it shows all the boot up
messages. pipe it to more to be able to scroll thru.

dmesg | more
 
 
 
 
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How to set up packages?

1997-09-10 Thread Tao Lu
Hi,

After I set up base system, how can I set up packages like X window and
others ?

By the way, the cd -rom problem has been fixed by enter /dev/hdd. But, I
still do not know how to access cd - rom. What is the command ? (I try
some unix command, would not work)

Thanks folks


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File permissions for /var

1997-09-10 Thread Trevor Barrie
While configuring my system recently, I managed to make my entire /var and
subdirectories owned by root. Does anybody know the easiest way to fix
this? Is there a list available of what the ownerships and file
permissions for a standard distribution should look like? (I know the
Contents files on the ftp site list which packages all the files should
belong to, but I don't think they say who should own what - or do they?)



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Re: How to set up packages?

1997-09-10 Thread Tao Lu
Tao Lu wrote:

 Hi,

 After I set up base system, how can I set up packages like X window
 and
 others ?

 By the way, the cd -rom problem has been fixed by enter /dev/hdd. But,
 I
 still do not know how to access cd - rom. What is the command ? (I try

 some unix command, would not work)

 Thanks folks

Actually, I have load all the binary CD, the problem is how to access
this cd rom to set up those packages ?



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Re: Starting X in 16 bpp ?

1997-09-10 Thread David
I created the file /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
and it is a text file saying
X -bpp 16

and it works,
and I think this came from the XFree86 documentation, so perhaps it isn't
the debian way of doing things, which is what you asked for,

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  What is the debian whay of starting X in 16 bpp? I can do this:
  startx -- -bpp 16
  
  but I would like to be able to do just startx.
  
  Any information as to what file(s) I need to modify would be greatly
  appreciated.
 
 Put
   DefaultColorDepth 16
 in Section Screen of /etc/X11/XF86Config .
 
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Re: XFree86 and Threads...

1997-09-10 Thread Gonzalo A. Diethelm
On Sep  9, 1997, at 11:30, Rob Browning wrote:
  Dale Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   I was just curious - since libc6 is thread safe, and GUIs seem to be
   something that can be naturally multithreaded, is XFree86
   multithreaded under Linux? (or any other system, for that matter?)
  
  Now that xlib6g and xlib6g-dev have been released (thanks Mark), the
  answer should be yes, but I haven't tried it yet.  Note that you need
  to be running unstable, and you have to complile all your code with
  -D_REENTRANT.  There's information about X and threads in the book
  Programmers Supplement for Release 6, another one of those X
  books.

From what I understand, just recompiling X won't give you
anything. You would have to rewrite parts of it (probably very big
chunks...) to be able to actually run the server in multiple threads.

  Rob

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Afterstep sounds

1997-09-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
I notice that afterstep_1.0-1.deb only contains some of the sound files
referenced in system.steprc.  Is there a site which contains the rest?


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Re: How to set up packages?

1997-09-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Tao Lu wrote:

 Tao Lu wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  After I set up base system, how can I set up packages like X window
  and
  others ?
 
  By the way, the cd -rom problem has been fixed by enter /dev/hdd. But,
  I
  still do not know how to access cd - rom. What is the command ? (I try
 
  some unix command, would not work)
 
  Thanks folks
 
 Actually, I have load all the binary CD, the problem is how to access
 this cd rom to set up those packages ?

The first option on the dselect menu is [A]ccess.  Select that, select
cdrom and answer the questions which follow.


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Re: How to set up packages?

1997-09-10 Thread Tao Lu
Bob Nielsen wrote:

 On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Tao Lu wrote:

  Tao Lu wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   After I set up base system, how can I set up packages like X
 window
   and
   others ?
  
   By the way, the cd -rom problem has been fixed by enter /dev/hdd.
 But,
   I
   still do not know how to access cd - rom. What is the command ? (I
 try
  
   some unix command, would not work)
  
   Thanks folks
 
  Actually, I have load all the binary CD, the problem is how to
 access
  this cd rom to set up those packages ?

 The first option on the dselect menu is [A]ccess.  Select that, select

 cdrom and answer the questions which follow.

 
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Hi:

Yes, I did. I type /dev/hdd when it ask the name of cd rom block name.
After certain questions, it jump to the update. I am sure that I have
already install successfully under the rescue disk ( I mean base system)
. But things look like strange. I still can not access cd rom.

How can I make sure the ATAPI cd rom is mounted ?


Tao Lu


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Re: XFree86 and Threads...

1997-09-10 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
 Dale == Dale Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Dale I was just curious - since libc6 is thread safe, and GUIs
Dale seem to be something that can be naturally multithreaded,
Dale is XFree86 multithreaded under Linux? (or any other system,
Dale for that matter?)

Dale I'm about to get a second PPro for my box at home, and I
Dale already have SMP at work, so the prospect of a multithreaded
Dale X is quite interesting to me.

 I'm interested too, though it will be a year or so before I can help
with any code...  ;-)

 The sources and some documentation for a multi-threaded X-Lib are
available for ftp at:

 ftp://parcftp.xerox.com/pub/mt-xlib/

 ... It sure would be a good thing to have!


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Re: Xemacs wont run under SU: `super' will solve your problem.

1997-09-10 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
 `super' is a great way to solve this problem.  I have this in my
/etc/super.tab file:


xemacs  /root/start-xemacs :staff @localhost @bittersweet.inetarena.com \
setenv=DISPLAY=unix:0 \

setenv=PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/lib/texmf/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
 \
password=n \
uid=root gid=root\
info=XEmacs editor as 'root' 

... and now I can start an XEmacs that has full root priveledges with:

$ super xemacs 

... It also works from a window manager or TkDesk menu button.  I have
found that the syntax of `super's configuration file is *much* easier
to understand and use than that of `sudo'.  It seems fairly secure as
well.  You might like to give it a try.


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Re: New Login

1997-09-10 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
 Jason == Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Jason Hi, Does anyone know how to make the login program in bo
Jason disable echo sooner?

 Look at /etc/login.defs.  You want to lower the FAIL_DELAY, I
think.


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Re: Auto Responder

1997-09-10 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
 Tony == Tony Koehn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Tony Does anyone know where I can find or how I go about getting
Tony an Auto Responder on a Debian Linux Box?

 Get `procmail', `smartlist' and the `procmail-lib' packages.  If
you've got a little shell programming experience, you'll be able to
piece together what you want from those with a few days of study.  If
you use `sendmail', you should make `procmail' your local mailer.

 I've got a technical support system set up that will autoreply to
folks who send mail to it, but only once per day.  It sends them a
note telling them that support staff will reply within 24hrs.  I did
it with `smartlist', just to learn how.  It's not being used by anyone
right now; I don't have a job---I just study.

 If you are interested enough, and need something like this for your
ISP or business, let me know.  I can always use a few extra book
dollars or a couple of cheeseburgers.  ;-)  I'm sure I could find the
time.

  You can try the list by sending mail to:

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... note that bittersweet isn't on the net 24 hours a day, so it might
sit in your out Q for a while.  In the normal case, the response would
be immediate, of course.  Uhhmmm... If you send mail to it, and *dont*
get an autoreply, let me know.  It may need further debugging. :-)


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Re: SCSI Host Adapter (+ Re: 2 CPU servers)

1997-09-10 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
 F == F Potorti Francesco writes:

F I am resending this, this time to the mailing list.  I suspect
F that the list-group gateway is not bidirectional, is that true?

F [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Noxon) writes:
   
F If you think going buslogic, the following are very recommended
F readings: http://www.dandelion.com/Linux/Quantum.html
F http://www.dandelion.com/Linux/BusLogic.html

 I noticed that there is not a Debian GNU/Linux rescue disk set
available on that page.  Shouldn't that be remedied?


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Re: Building Debian Packages

1997-09-10 Thread Mark W. Blunier

Using some of the information that has been recently submitted I was able
to create my first Debian package.  While the info was enough to the job
done, I had several questions and made many errors along the way before
I was able to determine the proper procedures.
I thought that I could make a helpful document for other new developers,
so before I forgot what it was I wanted to know as a first time installer,
I made the document up.  I would appreciate any constructive criticism, or
note if it is useful and should be contributed to Debian doc program.  You
can find it at
www.prairienet.org/~blunier/homepage.html

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Re: magicfilter and Stylus 600

1997-09-10 Thread dthayer
On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Britton wrote:
 
 If anyone has the Epson Stylus Color 600 working with magicfilter, I would
 love to hear what you did.  I did plain vanilla installation of gs,
 magicfilter, and magicfilterconfig, but I can't ever print plain text.  It
 just scoots the paper back and forth for a while, sticks it in the middle,
 and then the power light keeps blinking forever (supposedly indicating
 data is being sent to the printer, even though lpq shows 'no entries'.
 

I am successfully using the Stylus Color 600 with magicfilter. I am
using Aladdin Ghostscript from non-free if that makes any difference.

Here's the relevent section from my /etc/printcap:

lp|st600|stylus600|Epson Stylus Color 600:\
:lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/stylus600:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/usr/sbin/stcolor-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

and I modified the LQ series filter to get /usr/sbin/stcolor-filter by
changing the arguments for gs in the postscript section to:

-dMAGSTEP=0.5 -dMicroWeave -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=stcolor
-sOutputFile=- /usr/lib/ghostscript/4.03/stcolor.ps-

As far as I can remember, this was all that it took.


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Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

1997-09-10 Thread Dave Cinege
On Tue, 9 Sep 1997 19:41:28 -0400 (EDT), Tommy Lakofski wrote:

Unfortunately, my experience is somewhat different -- I've had a Quantum
Grand Prix 4.3GB die on me (dead spindle) after 10 months (and my office

The Grand Prix was a well know peice of shit, and is no longer made. They 
replaced it with their Atlas line of drives which (the atlas II especially) 
have ran 
very very well.


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Re: ftp upgrade problem

1997-09-10 Thread Jimmy Lu
Thanks W Paul and other people responded my e-mail. After loading 
ip_masq_ftp.o module to my gateway machine, ftp from the server
woked fine.  That was exactly my problem of not loading the module
during boot time.  Thanks again.  Jimmy

On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, W Paul Mills wrote:

 On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Jimmy Lu wrote:
 
  I have a similar problem on one of mey machine.  I have two Linux 
  machines networked.  The strange thing is that my gateway machine
  works fine but not for the other one.  When I try to ftp from that
  machine, I can log to the ftp site but when I do ls, it just waits
  forever. ^^   
 
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problem with gpc

1997-09-10 Thread Paul J. Thompson
dear all,

i trying to use gpc to test my programs as i write them for a
programming class i am taking.  anyways, i tried to compile my first
dinky little program and i get this error:

ld: cannot open -lgpc: No such file or directory

i am sure that it is not a problem in the program because it compiles
under gpc on another linux system (non-debian) and it compiles on our
campus VMS.  it also looks to me to be a more system related problem.
what's up?  (please help me!)

confused,
paul j. thompson

p.s.  for good measure, here's the program:

PROGRAM LAB3 (INPUT,OUTPUT);
(*  Paul J. Thompson*)
(*  September 9, 1997   *)
(*  CS2113  *)
(*  Lab Section 1   *)
CONST
   PRICE = 3;
VAR
   ITEMS,
   TOTALITEMS,
   COST : INTEGER;
BEGIN
   TOTALITEMS := 0;
   WHILE NOT EOF DO
   BEGIN
  READLN(ITEMS);
  TOTALITEMS := TOTALITEMS + ITEMS;
  COST := ITEMS * PRICE;
  WRITELN(ITEMS:3,' ITEMS COST $',COST:3);
   END;
   WRITELN;
   WRITELN('TOTAL ITEMS SOLD = ',TOTALITEMS:3);
END.


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Re: Please recommend a quality 4GB hard drive

1997-09-10 Thread Dave Cinege
On 09 Sep 1997 15:07:41 -0700, Terrence Brannon wrote:

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted as well.


We would like a SCSI 4GB hard disk to connect to our PC running Debian
Linux 1.3. We may occassionally want to connect it to our Alpha's running
Redhat Alpha 4.0. 

I've been using Quantums in everything I built in the last year or so. They 
have 
been running 100%. They seem to run a good deal cooler then other 
manufactures in the same class (IE an Atlas runs much cooler the a Seagate 
'Cuda ) The other reason I've been using Quantum is the Warranty turn 
around. When my 2G 'Cuda died on me it was about 3 weeks before I got a 
new drive back from Seagate. Quantum has something like a 2 day turn.

We want reliability first. Then cost second.

Get a DPT HBA and run RAID 6 (0+1). Get 6 2G Fireball ST drives. Nominal 
capacity is 6GB, super redundant, and will blow the doors of a 10,000RPM 
cheetah. This is the extreme...some simplier RAID solutions should also work 
well for you.

Gimme a call if you need someone to build it  (a plug never hurts, right  : )
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Re: www.linuxhq.com

1997-09-10 Thread Dave Cinege
On Mon, 8 Sep 1997 20:31:49 +, Adrian Bridgett wrote:

On Sep 08, Nils Rennebarth wrote
 On Thu, 4 Sep 1997, Craig Sanders wrote:
 does anyone know what's happened to www.linuxhq.com?
 It appears to have moved to www.ecsnet.com, at least this is what altavista
 says. It's ping'able but http connections are refused for now.
 
 Don't know what's up there.

It used to be at www.ecsnet.com before moving to www.linuxhq.com. 
Someone on the kernel mailing lists did a bit of investigation and it
seems that ecsnet's nameservers are a bit messed up (the pages are still
hosted there, they are just under a different name).

My favourite WWW page, unaccessable :-(

Anyone have an IP to access it with?
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Installing qmail in /usr/local

1997-09-10 Thread David
Hi,
I want to try out qmail.
I found a qmail.deb package in the experimental section, but it depends on
libc6 and as people still seem to be having problems with that, I'm not
ready to upgrade.

So I'll install it myself, but I don't want to mess up my beautifully
upgradable debian 1.3.1 system, so I want to put qmail in /usr/local.

By default, qmail want to go in /var/qmail. Should I make a
/usr/local/var/qmail? I don't have a /usr/local/var already.

david..

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Re: problem with gpc

1997-09-10 Thread Christoph Lameter
Ok. Last call for a maintainer for gpc. Almost a year ago someone else
took it over and nothing was done. I am going to remove the package since
it will be included in future egcs releases anyways if no one is willing
to maintain the package.

The fix for the bug is described in the bug archives for the package.

On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Paul J. Thompson wrote:

dear all,

i trying to use gpc to test my programs as i write them for a
programming class i am taking.  anyways, i tried to compile my first
dinky little program and i get this error:

ld: cannot open -lgpc: No such file or directory

i am sure that it is not a problem in the program because it compiles
under gpc on another linux system (non-debian) and it compiles on our
campus VMS.  it also looks to me to be a more system related problem.
what's up?  (please help me!)

confused,
paul j. thompson

p.s.  for good measure, here's the program:

PROGRAM LAB3 (INPUT,OUTPUT);
(* Paul J. Thompson*)
(* September 9, 1997   *)
(* CS2113  *)
(* Lab Section 1   *)
CONST
   PRICE = 3;
VAR
   ITEMS,
   TOTALITEMS,
   COST : INTEGER;
BEGIN
   TOTALITEMS := 0;
   WHILE NOT EOF DO
   BEGIN
  READLN(ITEMS);
  TOTALITEMS := TOTALITEMS + ITEMS;
  COST := ITEMS * PRICE;
  WRITELN(ITEMS:3,' ITEMS COST $',COST:3);
   END;
   WRITELN;
   WRITELN('TOTAL ITEMS SOLD = ',TOTALITEMS:3);
END.


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Re: www.linuxhq.com

1997-09-10 Thread H Huang

Unfortunately, the site is gone. The following is the story I got from
a Deja News search:

--- begin --

LinuxHQ has been my little pet project for over a year, and it has
been a very enjoyable venture.  Recently, the company I work for
bought another company in California (I'm in Texas).  I now spend
about 75% of my time traveling and it is simply impossible for me to
keep the site updated with the rapid changes that take place with
Linux development.

I tried for a few weeks to pull it off, but between long distance
phone calls into my system and not having any access, it simply didn't
work. 

I've received several emails (hundreds) asking why the site was so out
of date, many were asking politely but most were more angry that I
hadn't kept up the system.  

I've tried many times to recruit some help, but it has never panned
out. So, In light of the fact that I am no longer in a position to
maintain the site and it was also costing me a little over $350 per
month to maintain the connection and ISDN line, I decided it was time
to shut it down.  If I couldn't do it right, I didn't see any reason
in doing it at all.

I'm leaving again for two more weeks later today and won't have access
to email for that time.  I hope that folks will understand why it had
to come to an end and hopefully someday I'll be able to provide a
little bit back to the Linux community again.

BTW, the domain linuxhq.com will be removed as well, if someone else
wants to try and pickup where I left off, the domain should be
available in a few days thru internic.

Thank you for your query, I hope I've answered your questions to your
satisfaction.  I'll miss the interaction I had with all the Linux
users and developers, I have certainly gained much from the experience
and hope that I've been able to help others along the way.

Good Luck!

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Re: why insmod so active?

1997-09-10 Thread Lindsay Allen
Eugene,

I have not seen any answers to your question, which may mean that no one
knows.

Your command is unusual:-
 /sbin/insmod -k -s /lib/modules/2.0.30/misc/lp.o lp

insmod -k -s lp would be the usual way of loading lp.

The actual device could be /dev/lp0 or /dev/lp1 so be prepared to try both
and adjust /etc/printcap if necessary.
 
Run depmod -a and try insmod again.  If the present behaviour persists I
can only suggest that you run strace on it. 

strace insmod -k -s lp

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On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Eugene Sevinian wrote:

 
 I noticed that insmod spends a lot of CPU time. 
 There were no such things before .  I'm using 2.0.30 kernel
 with 1.3.0 Debian. 
 Here is the 1st string of top's output:
 root   190 89.0  1.4   0   848   324   236  ?  R  5:15
 /sbin/insmod -k -s /lib/modules/2.0.30/misc/lp.o lp
 
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Re: Printer Advice: HP 870C or Epson Stylus 800

1997-09-10 Thread Anthony Fok
On Tue, 2 Sep 1997, Civ Kevin F. Havener wrote:

 I'm contemplating buying one of the two subject printers.  Has anyone out 
 there used either of these two printers under Linux?
 
   Easy to use under Linux is the key criteria.
   Color printing is nice to have but most of my important printing  
   needs are black and white.
   Will use ghostscript.
   Epson has optional postscript.  Anyone know what this is?  
   Appears to be software (like ghostscript) that emulates 
   postscript.  Is it OS dependent as I suspect (resides 
   on my computer) or is it actually installed into the printer?

I have a EPSON Stylus COLOR 500 at home, and it is just *wonderful*!  ^_^
I love it!  And the EPSON Stylus COLOR 800 is even better, faster, and
prettier!  ^_^  I highly recommend EPSON Stylus COLOR 800!  ^_^

(BTW, EPSON Stylus 800 without the word COLOR was an old black and
white version.  Don't get them mixed up.  ^_^)

Ghostscript 4.03 and 5.0x both work well with EPSON Stylus COLOR 800.  In
Ghostscript 5.0x, it supports 1440x720dpi printing too.  The print quality
is excellent under both Windows 95 and Debian GNU/Linux.  Colour is really
nice too!  ^_^

Anthony

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Re: magicfilter and Stylus 600

1997-09-10 Thread Anthony Fok
Hello Britton!  ^_^

On Mon, 8 Sep 1997, Britton wrote:
 
 If anyone has the Epson Stylus Color 600 working with magicfilter, I would
 love to hear what you did.  I did plain vanilla installation of gs,
 magicfilter, and magicfilterconfig, but I can't ever print plain text.  It
 just scoots the paper back and forth for a while, sticks it in the middle,
 and then the power light keeps blinking forever (supposedly indicating
 data is being sent to the printer, even though lpq shows 'no entries'.

I have an EPSON Stylus COLOR 500 working perfectly with Debian GNU/Linux,
magicfilter, Ghostscript 4.03/5.0x and lprng.  ^_^

Hmm...  Which printer driver did you choose with magicfilter?  There is no
specific configuration for EPSON Stylus COLOR printers in magicfilter
(yet).  I guess you can pick something like epsonlpc, and then make the
changes.

Okay, let's begin.  ^_^

I have several entries in my /etc/printcap file, for different
resolutions.  ^_^ For examples, I have the following entries in my
/etc/printcap file: 


lp|lp360|ij|epscfh|epsc500|EPSON Stylus COLOR 500 (360 dpi):\
:lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/epsc500:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/usr/sbin/epsonsc500-filter:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

lp180|ij180|epscfhlo|epsc500_180|EPSON Stylus COLOR 500 (180 dpi):\
:lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/epsc500:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/usr/sbin/epsonsc500-filter_180:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:

lp720|ij720|epscfhhi|epsc500_720|EPSON Stylus COLOR 500 (720 dpi):\
:lp=/dev/lp1:sd=/var/spool/lpd/epsc500:\
:sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\
:if=/usr/sbin/epsonsc500-filter_720:\
:af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs:


Feel free to adapt it to your tasting.  ^_^

For my epsonsc500-filter* files, I think I just took the
/usr/sbin/epsonlqc-filter file, copied to epsonsc500-filter, then edit the
settings.  For example, I have changed the first few lines to:


# PostScript
0   %!  filter  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r360x360 
-sDEVICE=stcolor \
-dColorAdjustMatrix={1.0 0.0 0.0 0.8 0.0 1.0 0.0 0.8 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.8 
-0.5 -0.5 -0.5 1.0} \
-sDithering=fscmyk -sOutputFile=- stc500pl.ps -
0   \004%!  filter  /usr/bin/gs  -q -dSAFER -dNOPAUSE -r360x360 
-sDEVICE=stcolor \
-dColorAdjustMatrix={1.0 0.0 0.0 0.8 0.0 1.0 0.0 0.8 0.0 0.0 1.0 0.8 
-0.5 -0.5 -0.5 1.0} \
-sDithering=fscmyk -sOutputFile=- stc500pl.ps -


I also changed the resolution from 180 to 360.  You may do something
similar for epsonsc500-filter_180 and epsonsc500-filter_720.  (BTW, the
file names that I made up are not consistent and definitely non-standard. 
Feel free to name them to your own tasting.  ^_^

Note that the -dColorAdjustMatrix setting listed above is specifically
tailored for the SC500.  For SC600, your colour printout might not look
very good with these settings.  You might be able to find something on the
Internet.  ^_^ Also, the file stc500pl.ps is, again, designed for SC500. 
It might work well with SC600, but I am not sure.  I will attached it in
another message.  I hope it works.  ^_^ Note that, however, the EPSON
Stylus printer driver in Ghostscript 4.03 only supports up to 720x720 dpi. 

Better yet, use Ghostscript 5.02 (or the latest version)  which comes with
uniprint which provides excellent support for SC600 and SC800, including
support for 1440x720dpi printing.  It will be Debianized soon, but I guess
the package maintainer has been very busy and he experienced some problems
compiling the new Ghostscript with glibc 2 (libc6) and svgalib or
something like that?  ^_^  (I forgot)

Anyway, please read /usr/doc/gs/devices.txt.gz for more information about
the EPSON Stylus printer driver in Ghostscript 4.03.  ^_^

Hope this helps!  ^_^

Anthony

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Re: Installing qmail in /usr/local

1997-09-10 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, David wrote:

 : I want to try out qmail.
Nice choice ;)

 : I found a qmail.deb package in the experimental section, but it depends on
 : libc6 and as people still seem to be having problems with that, I'm not
 : ready to upgrade.
 : 
 : So I'll install it myself, but I don't want to mess up my beautifully
 : upgradable debian 1.3.1 system, so I want to put qmail in /usr/local.
 : 
 : By default, qmail want to go in /var/qmail. Should I make a
 : /usr/local/var/qmail? I don't have a /usr/local/var already.

Uhm, most people say 'never put things that NEED to be writable anywhere
else then /var'. So I suggest you still use /var/qmail.

But.. I didn't try it, but I'm almost sure it WILL work in
/usr/local/anything. Just make sure the permission are okay (as stated in
qmail's INSTALL-file).

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bug: dpkg/dselect on latex

1997-09-10 Thread G. Crimp
I'm afraid I don't know exactly to whom to report this problem.  I hope I 
am in the right place.  If not please advise as to the appropriate 
exterminator.

I've recently installed Debian/Linux 1.1 on my Pentium 100, from the 
InfoMagic Linux Developer's Resource 6 CD set, Sept 1996 release. 

After having achieved a successful installation, I was dismayed to
discover that the Debian setup was ENORMOUS compared to my previous
Slackware 3.1 setup from the same CD.  So big in fact that any attempt at
the slightest of tasks was invariably thwarted by a device full error
message. 

Setting out to discover what was taking up the 530 Mb of my Linux 
partition I discovered the file /usr/lib/texmf/ini/latex.log which was 
occupying a whopping 410,399,744 bytes of disk real estate.  (At least I am 
fairly sure that ls -l in the Debian distribution is reporting bytes 
and not blocks or POSIX compliant whosit units that I do not readily 
understand.  The number of characters reported by a :w save in a vi test 
file was the same as the size of this test file as reported by ls -l.)

The greatly abbreviated contents of this file were:


-- beginning of exerpt ---
This is TeX, Version 3.1415 (C version 6.1) (INITEX) 2 SEP 1997 13:49
** latex.initex
(latex.initex (/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/base/latex.ltx
(/usr/lib/texmf/tex/latex/config/texsys.cfg)
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l.572 ...LaTeX source files more than 1 year old!}

? y
Type return to proceed, S to scroll future error messages,
R to run without stopping, Q to run quietly,
I to insert something, E to edit your file,
1 or ... or 9 to ignore the next 1 to 9 tokens of input,
H for help, X to quit
? y
Type return to proceed, S to scroll future error messages,
R to run without stopping, Q to run quietly,
I to insert something, E to edit your file,
1 or ... or 9 to ignore thenext 1 to 9 tokens of input,
H for help, X to quit
? y
 .  . ..
 .  . ..
 .  . ..
? y
Type return to proceed, S to scroll future error messages,
R to run without stopping, Q to run quietly,
I to insert something, E to edit your file,
1 or ... or 9 to ignore the next 1 to 9 tokens of input,
to run without stopping, Q to run quietly,
I to insert something , E to edit your file,
1 or ... or 9 to ignore the next 1 to 9 tokens of input,
H for help, X to quit
? y
 .   .. .
 .   .. .
 .   .. .
? y
Type return to proceed, S to scroll future error messages,
R to run without stopping, Q to run quietly,
I to insert something, E to edit your file,
1 or ... or 9 to ignore the next 1 to 9 tokens of input,
H fo
--- End of excerpt 

I used grep on the file to see if there was anything aside from this
repeating paragraph.  There was nothing else.  It appears that the LaTeX
setup wanted a return, an S, R, Q, I, E, 1 through 9, an H or an X, but
only ever got a y. 

I never saw any of this during the install.  I don't know where the y 
came from.  What I saw during install was a series of Setting up  ...
messages that lead up to :

Setting up latex ...
Building new latex format(s) using install-fmt-base(8)
Rebuilding 'latex' format ...

The process seemed to stall at this last message.  I killed it with ^C 
after I don't know how long on one install attempt.  On another I let it 
go for over twelve hours before pulling out the carpet from under.  
Another time I waited nearly three hours and 

IP aliasing

1997-09-10 Thread Maarten Boekhold
Hi,

I tried to steup an IP alias on a machine here. According to the
Virtual-Web mini-HOWTO, I can do:

ifconfig eth0 alias new-address

However, ifconfig says 'alias' is not a hostname. 'man ifconfig' doesn't
say anything about aliasing. This is with netbase 2.13-1.

Anybody who can get me goin' on this?

Maarten

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Re: Error message from modprobe during boot with Debian 1.3.1

1997-09-10 Thread Carey Evans
cleto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Since I upgraded my Debian 1.2 system to Debian 1.3.1 I get the following
 message during the boot:
 
 modprobe: /proc/modules: No such file or directory

Maybe /proc isn't getting loaded early enough; or the error message
might be misleading.  Some things changed with modules from 1.2 to
1.3, so make sure you upgraded all the packages, and see if any config
files should have gotten upgraded but didn't -- look for *.dpkg-new
files in /etc/init.d/ and /etc/rc.boot/.

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Re: XFree86 and Threads...

1997-09-10 Thread Carey Evans
Gonzalo A. Diethelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[snip]

 From what I understand, just recompiling X won't give you
 anything. You would have to rewrite parts of it (probably very big
 chunks...) to be able to actually run the server in multiple threads.

I think it should be possible to do this just a bit by using xfs to do
the fonts.  I don't think it should make much difference on the kind
of machine that has more than one CPU anyway, beyond what the X server
running on one CPU and the client on the other would give you.

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Re: Installing qmail in /usr/local

1997-09-10 Thread Carey Evans
David [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I found a qmail.deb package in the experimental section, but it depends on
 libc6 and as people still seem to be having problems with that, I'm not
 ready to upgrade.

Try just downloading the source package and compiling it.  You should
get a nice libc5 qmail Debian package.

 By default, qmail want to go in /var/qmail. Should I make a
 /usr/local/var/qmail? I don't have a /usr/local/var already.

I seem to have a /var/local/.  I can't remember if I made it myself
though.

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Re: bug: dpkg/dselect on latex

1997-09-10 Thread Carey Evans
G. Crimp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've recently installed Debian/Linux 1.1 on my Pentium 100, from the 
 InfoMagic Linux Developer's Resource 6 CD set, Sept 1996 release. 

[snip]

 Setting out to discover what was taking up the 530 Mb of my Linux 
 partition I discovered the file /usr/lib/texmf/ini/latex.log which was 
 occupying a whopping 410,399,744 bytes of disk real estate.

[snip]

That's quite a big file.

The TeX packages in Debian 1.1 were pulled and replaced with teTeX
because (quoting from the preinst) these packages had serious
problems.  Can you afford the approx. US$5 + postage to order a pair
of 1.3 CD's from Cheap Bytes or LSL?

BTW, the Debian bug tracking system is at
URL:http://www.debian.org/Bugs/.

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Re: IP aliasing

1997-09-10 Thread Remco van de Meent
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Maarten Boekhold wrote:

 : Hi,
 : 
 : I tried to steup an IP alias on a machine here. According to the
 : Virtual-Web mini-HOWTO, I can do:
 : 
 : ifconfig eth0 alias new-address
 : 
 : However, ifconfig says 'alias' is not a hostname. 'man ifconfig' doesn't
 : say anything about aliasing. This is with netbase 2.13-1.

Use 'ifconfig eth0:1 new-address'


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Re: IP aliasing

1997-09-10 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Remco van de Meent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

: Use 'ifconfig eth0:1 new-address'

Right; then use eth0:2, then eth0:3 and so on for new virtual hosts.

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Installing on a low memory notebook

1997-09-10 Thread Jeppe Buk
Hi

I'm trying to install debian gnu/linux 1.3.1 on a Packard Bell Statesman
with 4MB of RAM.

When I insert the debian rescue disk, it never loads the kernel, but only
writes:

boot:
Loading Boot failed: change disks and press any key

with a delay of only 4-5 seconds between Loading and Boot failed. I have
tried booting from a Slackware bootdisk (of unknown origin) with
root=/dev/fd0 option. Now when inserting the debian root disk (low memory
version, lmroot.bin), I can start the setup, but when I get to
installation of the OS kernel, it fails with an error about ./install.sh
not available.

I have tried the same bootdisk on a stationary PC, and it works perfectly.

Any clues?
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Re: How to set up packages?

1997-09-10 Thread Joost_Kooij


On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Tao Lu wrote:

 By the way, the cd -rom problem has been fixed by enter /dev/hdd. But, I
 still do not know how to access cd - rom. What is the command ? (I try
 some unix command, would not work)

cd /
mkdir cdrom ; create a mountpoint if it does not yet exist
mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /cdrom; mount the cdrom
cd cdrom; you'll find the contents here
ls -l
umount /cdrom   ; unmount before you eject the cd

Better still, you can edit /etc/fstab and add an appropriate line to make 
life a little easier. Just look at the lines that are already there to 
get an idea of what you should add. 'man 5 fstab' is your friend btw.

In the options field add `user', so you can mount the device as mortal
user and `noauto' so linux doesn't try to mount a possibly empty cdrom 
tray at boot time.

When you have done this, `mount /dcrom` will mount the cdrom.

`cat /etc/mtab` shows what is mounted now, just like `mount` btw.


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Re: cdrom

1997-09-10 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Tao Lu wrote:

 Hi:
 
 I first time try Linux. After install base system and boot up, I use
 dselect to set package. Although the cdrom is installed succefully
 during driver disk, the dselect ask me following:
 
 Insert the CD-ROM and enter the block device name [/dev/cdrom]:
 
 What is the block device name I should enter?
 
You have gotten some very broad advice so far, so I thought I would try to
simplify things for you.

When you configured the modules (from the driver section), if you didn't
already have the driver installed, you installed a driver for your CD-ROM.
When this was done /dev/cdrom was linked to that driver. (Note that
this was offered in the prompt above) You should be able to press enter
and everything should work ok. If this doesn't work, you will need to
determine which driver fits your drive (as others have indicated) and use
that device instead.

Luck,

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question on network security

1997-09-10 Thread James D. Freels
This is probably not the right forum for this question, but I am
running on a Debian/GNU machine.  If there is a better mailing list
or news group for the question, please let me know.

I am trying to setup my machine as a 'less open' in my corporate
environment.  I have started by having the entry 'ALL: ALL' in my
hosts.deny file.  Then I add individual entries in the hosts.allow
file to gain access to my machine.  This all works as planned.

However, what I have found is a tremendous number of attempts to gain
access to my machine that I was unaware of.  Some of them are what I
was trying to prevent (in less than a day, about 10 www attempts when
I'm not even set up as an httpd server for example).  But, the large
majority of the attempts I don't know much about.  Attempts at access
via daemons ypserv, mountd, 34, and 300214 with most trying
ypserv.  These appear to be from SGIs and SUNs which are themselves
running some type of network protocol which periodically probes the
network. 

I would like to eliminate these problems, but don't know where to
start.  I can add back the problem machines to my hosts.allow file to
remove the error messages from my log file.  This confirms that they
are the problems, but doesn't fix the problem.

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root and .rhosts file

1997-09-10 Thread Jeppe Buk
Hi

I'm a student programmer at the Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Science,
Odense University in Denmark.

I've installed Debian 1.2 on one of our PC's in the Unix network. This
works great (not surprisingly).

Now I've installed Debian 1.3.1 on another PC, and I can't get this new
machine to accept root rsh requests from our primary server (running
SunOS), or any other machine, for that matter. Both Debian machines have
the same .rhosts file in the root homedir, but the 1.3.1 host gives
permission denied replies.

BTW: I'm not using shadow passwords on any of the systems.

I'm lost, and if I don't solve the problem my system manager will not let
me install Debian on new PCs in the department (Not Good!).

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Re: How to set up packages?

1997-09-10 Thread Joost_Kooij


On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Tao Lu wrote:

 After I set up base system, how can I set up packages like X window and
 others ?

This is the general scheme:

Set the [a]ccess to where your archive is (ok, so you know this one already)
[U]pdate the list of available packages in the archive
[S]elect which packages you want to install next
[I]nstall the packages that you just selected in the step above
[C]onfigure still unconfigured packages (should rarely be necessary)
[R]emove unselected packages (when you find out that you need a bigger 
disk but you don't have the money yet)
[Q]uit and play around (read man pages, browse /usr/doc/*)

Once you feel confident about the keybindings in [s]elect, you'll agree 
that it is all quite intuitive actually.


On installing X some more explanation is probably appropriate:

Sometimes, there are problems because configuration scripts of x-packages
try to read from or write in configuration files that aren't properly
there yet because the important x-package xbase is not configured yet.
This effectively breaks the configuration of features like xdm.

The morale is, you should install X bit by bit. First xlib6, then xbase, 
then xfntbase, xfnt75, xfnt100 and xaw, then xserver-vga16 and xserver-your 
card.

At the point where you are installing xserver-vga16, answer no to the 
question to configure X now, but wait until xserver-your card asks the 
same question. The script that is started is XF86Setup and it needs your 
card's server to be present to configure X to use it.
Also, answer no to the question if you want to start xdm now. It is 
better to say no to xdm generally until you are happy with the way X 
works with `startx` (or `startx -- -bpp16`.)
When you eventually want to run xdm, just make a minor change to 
/etc/X11/config and run `shadowconfig on` (just in case your cd has this 
bug on it - it doesn't hurt if it hasn't) and `/etc/init.d/xdm start`

If things still go wrong, then you can always revert to use of raw dpkg.

mount /cdrom
cd /cdrom/stable/binary/x11
dpkg -i xlib6*
dpkg -i xbase*
dpkg -i xfntbase*
dpkg -i xfnt75*
dpkg -i xfnt100*
dpkg -i xaw*
dpkg -i xserver-vga16*
dpkg -i xserver-fill in yourself


Good luck and lots of fun with your Debian system,


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Re: question on network security

1997-09-10 Thread dpk
The Unix workstations in your work environment are running what is called
NIS.  This allows for machines to collectively share information between
one another, like password files, disks, etc.   I would ask around to see
if your machine is in 'netgroups'.  Netgroups is basically a list of
trusted machines on your NIS server, somewhat of a domain controller.  If
you are in that list, other machines will request information from yours.
I would not be weary over these 'attacks' as they are most likely not from
users, but just NIS broadcasts from related programs/daemons that run from
boot-up. Our Sun machines run NIS+, basically the same as NIS, but more
secure.  My linux box is not in netgroups and I don't get such broadcasts
to my machine.

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On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, James D. Freels wrote:

 This is probably not the right forum for this question, but I am
 running on a Debian/GNU machine.  If there is a better mailing list
 or news group for the question, please let me know.
 
 I am trying to setup my machine as a 'less open' in my corporate
 environment.  I have started by having the entry 'ALL: ALL' in my
 hosts.deny file.  Then I add individual entries in the hosts.allow
 file to gain access to my machine.  This all works as planned.
 
 However, what I have found is a tremendous number of attempts to gain
 access to my machine that I was unaware of.  Some of them are what I
 was trying to prevent (in less than a day, about 10 www attempts when
 I'm not even set up as an httpd server for example).  But, the large
 majority of the attempts I don't know much about.  Attempts at access
 via daemons ypserv, mountd, 34, and 300214 with most trying
 ypserv.  These appear to be from SGIs and SUNs which are themselves
 running some type of network protocol which periodically probes the
 network. 
 
 I would like to eliminate these problems, but don't know where to
 start.  I can add back the problem machines to my hosts.allow file to
 remove the error messages from my log file.  This confirms that they
 are the problems, but doesn't fix the problem.
 
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Problem: smail doesn't transport mail

1997-09-10 Thread A. Leidenfrost
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-

Hi to everyone!

I've got a strange problem iwth smail: It doesn't deliver remote messages.
Here is the output of runq -v for the mail to the linux count project that
smailconfig wants to send:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: uninett.no matched by inet_hosts:
routed [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] at uninett.no
  transport hint mx 10 aun.uninett.no
address hint aun.uninett.no 129.241.1.99
  transport hint mx 20 nac.no
address hint nac.no 129.240.2.40
transport smtp uses driver tcpsmtp
lock retry/smtp/aun.uninett.no
lock succeeded (will defer failure) retry/smtp/aun.uninett.no
transport smtp: connect to host aun.uninett.no [129.241.1.99]/smtp...transport s
mtp: connect: No route to host
unlock (error) retry/smtp/aun.uninett.no
lock retry/smtp/nac.no
lock succeeded (will defer failure) retry/smtp/nac.no
transport smtp: connect to host nac.no [129.240.2.40]/smtp...transport smtp: con
nect: No route to host
unlock (error) retry/smtp/nac.no


My smail configuration is as follows:

Mail generated on this system will have `gp12.dkrz.de' used
as the host part (after the @) in the From: field and similar places.

The following hostname(s) will be recognised as referring to this system:
 gp12.dkrz.de

Mail for postmaster, root, etc. will be sent to u250011.

Local mail is delivered.

Outbound remote mail is first looked up in the Internet DNS, and delivered
using that data if this yields results.  Messages for which no
entry is found in the DNS are sent to mailhost
via SMTP and TCP/IP (using any MX records for it in the DNS).


My /etc/resolv.conf file contains 1 domain and nameserver entries.

If I choose the option to send all remote mail directly via the smarthost it
seems to work.

Any ideas what could be wrong are much appreciated. Thanks a lot in advance!

Regards,

Andree 

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su - user $CMD_OPTS_ARG

1997-09-10 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
GNU bash, version 1.14.7(1)
su - GNU sh-utils 1.12
(Debian 1.2.4, going to get room for 1.3.1 soon.)

VAR=command options arg ; export VAR

Calling su like this
 echo $VAR | su - user
gives a stdin: is not a tty message but does a fine job.

Calling su in this other way
 su - user -c $VAR
results in ANYTHING AFTER THE FIRST SPACE CHARACTER to be executed, that
is only command. 

No problems if I _write_ on the command line what had to be taken from
$VAR:
 su - user -c command options arg 


-- EXAMPLE --
nick:~/test# ls -l
total 3
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   20 Sep 10 16:26 file1.cat
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   30 Sep 10 16:27 file2.cat
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   46 Sep 10 16:27 file3.cat
nick:~/test# COMMAND='ls -l /root/test' ; export COMMAND
nick:~/test# echo $COMMAND | su - nbern
stdin: is not a ttytotal 3
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   20 Sep 10 16:26 file1.cat
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   30 Sep 10 16:27 file2.cat
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   46 Sep 10 16:27 file3.cat
nick:~/test# su - nbern -c $COMMAND
--cut--
--cut--

^ Here I get the same as from 'ls' done inside /home/nbern, that is
COMMAND has been truncated to ls; it does not happen if I explicitly copy
the content of $COMMAND to the command line: 

nick:~/test# su - nbern -c 'ls -l /root/test'
total 3
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   20 Sep 10 16:26 file1.cat
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   30 Sep 10 16:27 file2.cat
-rw-r--r--   1 root root   46 Sep 10 16:27 file3.cat
nick:~/test# 
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Seg faults when not root

1997-09-10 Thread Steve Mayer
Hello,

   Maybe some of you have run across this problem.

   Last night I was doing my nightly check of the new packages in the
unstable tree and downloaded and installed the bash2.01-3,
bash-builtins2.01-3, and libreadlineg2-??? (sorry, don't have the info,
but it is the latest out there).  After the installation of these files,
there are quite a number of commands that no longer work unless I'm
logged in as root.  Among these are less, more, startx, man, etc...
Most of the commands error out with a segmentaion fault, others simply
die without outputting any info to the console.

  Any ideas?

Thanks,

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Debian + PC with multi RS... port - n x (text dumb terminal + printer)

1997-09-10 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
 1) What serial devices allow longer cables than RS232 without use
of modems (say 10-100-200 meters)?
 2) Are there multi port cards of that kind which run well with
Debian? Any brandname + model?
 3) What if the text dumb terminals connected to a Linux Box also need
a printer each (or almost any of them)? Is it possible that
data is sent to the printer and terminal via the same line?
Brandname + model?

 Thanks to anyone willing to give a clue.

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Can 2 CPU motherboard run not-SMP kernel?

1997-09-10 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
 Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 11:50:02 -0700
 From: Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: 2 CPU servers

 -cut--
 2.0.31-pre7 seems to be working ok (no deadlocks).
 2.0.30 or 2.0.29 with the deadlock-patch 6 works fine too.
 --cut--

Suppose that after buying a 2 CPU motherboard you find that with some I/O
intensive application there are deadlocks, would a kernel compiled with no
SMP run on that motherboard?

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Re: looking for opinions on scsi adapter cards

1997-09-10 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Tue, Sep 09, 1997 at 09:57:23PM -0400, butch wrote:
 i am looking to build my own computer system and i think scsi is the best
 way to go for pure performance. so iwas wondering about what the members
 here like?

This is becoming a FAQ.  :)

There was a long thread about this not long ago.  Without going into
details, the unanimous answer is:

Do not buy Adaptec.  They're fine for Windoze but not prime-time on Linux.

Buy a BusLogic adapter if you need reliability and high performance
at a good price.  The FlashPoint LT is a great, inexpensive adapter.
It may not be supported by the Debian boot disks though.  I haven't
looked into this yet.  The BT-948 is most certainly supported.  Mylex
recently bought BusLogic.  http://www.mylex.com

Buy a DPT adapter if you need fancy features like RAID and/or you can
afford it.  I don't know their URL.  (http://www.dpt.com ?)

Also read the Linux SCSI-HOWTO (somewhat dated, it says FlashPoint
adapters don't work and that they're slow -- both points being absolutely
false.)  http://www.dandelion.com/linux has the latest BusLogic info
on Linux.

Jeff


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Re: How to set up packages?

1997-09-10 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Tao Lu wrote:

 
 Hi:
 
 Yes, I did. I type /dev/hdd when it ask the name of cd rom block name.
 After certain questions, it jump to the update. I am sure that I have
 already install successfully under the rescue disk ( I mean base system)
 .. But things look like strange. I still can not access cd rom.
 
 How can I make sure the ATAPI cd rom is mounted ?

If you are going to use dselect, you do not want to mount the cd-rom
before.  When you get the the update prompt, hit a carriage return and
dselect will read the necessary information from the cd-rom to establish a
database of available packages.  Then go to select (usually there will be
a number of packages already selected).  You can select additional ones
now or do it later.   

Hit a carriage return after you are through selecting and the prompt will
go to Install.  Running this will actually read the packages from the
cd-rom and install them into your system.

Bob


 
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Re: SCSI Host Adapter (+ Re: 2 CPU servers)

1997-09-10 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Tue, Sep 09, 1997 at 09:37:27PM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote:
  F == F Potorti Francesco writes:
 
 F I am resending this, this time to the mailing list.  I suspect
 F that the list-group gateway is not bidirectional, is that true?
 
 F [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Noxon) writes:

 F If you think going buslogic, the following are very recommended
 F readings: http://www.dandelion.com/Linux/Quantum.html
 F http://www.dandelion.com/Linux/BusLogic.html
 
  I noticed that there is not a Debian GNU/Linux rescue disk set
 available on that page.  Shouldn't that be remedied?

Yes, it should be.

Actually, I think there should be a link to our current disk sets,
and we should be sure these have FlashPoint support.  Right now I don't
think they do.

I'll try to verify this later.

Thanks,

Jeff


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Force smail immediately retry mail delivery.

1997-09-10 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
 Which is the correct way to force smail immediately retry sending
e-mail for which there was an error?

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Re: Can 2 CPU motherboard run not-SMP kernel?

1997-09-10 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Wed, Sep 10, 1997 at 05:18:10PM -0200, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
  Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 11:50:02 -0700
  From: Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: 2 CPU servers
 
  -cut--
  2.0.31-pre7 seems to be working ok (no deadlocks).
  2.0.30 or 2.0.29 with the deadlock-patch 6 works fine too.
  --cut--
 
 Suppose that after buying a 2 CPU motherboard you find that with some I/O
 intensive application there are deadlocks, would a kernel compiled with no
 SMP run on that motherboard?

Yes.  In that case you just have an idle CPU.

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Re: looking for opinions on scsi adapter cards

1997-09-10 Thread Lawrence
Jeff Noxon wrote:
 There was a long thread about this not long ago.  Without going into
 details, the unanimous answer is:
 
 Do not buy Adaptec.  They're fine for Windoze but not prime-time on Linux.
 
 Buy a BusLogic adapter if you need reliability and high performance
 at a good price.  The FlashPoint LT is a great, inexpensive adapter.
 It may not be supported by the Debian boot disks though.  I haven't

Yes, the boot disks support it.


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Exim, sa (8) problems

1997-09-10 Thread Nathan E Norman
Two unrelated problems.

First, exim is acting a bit weird on me.  I installed Debian from the
stable tree last week via ftp.  During the initial setup I chose exim
instead of smail as my MTA ... perhaps this wasn't the way to do it.  I
was trying to avoid dpkg from the command line.  At any rate, any mail
sent to root is not delivered ... it just sits in the queue.  So, I
aliased root mail to go to my account.  When I run Pine, it says the
mailbox is read-only.  The mailbox is there in /var/spool/mail ... I
don't get it.

Second, I installed the GNU accounting utilities.  ac works, but sa core
dumps when I run 'sa -m'.  Admittedly, I'm new to these utilities ...
any hints?  Might I have a corrupt logfile, and if so, what should I do?

Sorry these are a bit vague, I'm late for a meeting :/ If you need more
info, or if I'm missing something incredibly obvious feel free to let me
know :) 

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Re: root and .rhosts file

1997-09-10 Thread Ferenc Kiraly
Hi!

 Now I've installed Debian 1.3.1 on another PC, and I can't get this new
 machine to accept root rsh requests from our primary server (running
 SunOS), or any other machine, for that matter. Both Debian machines have
 the same .rhosts file in the root homedir, but the 1.3.1 host gives
 permission denied replies.

This is a feature, not a bug. It is because root is by default allowd login 
only on some ttys. On my system (Debian 1.3.1) these ttys are listed in 
/etc/securetty and I think this is the default. Also see the CONSOLE entry 
in /etc/login.defs and play around with /etc/login.access. In these files you
can turn off the restriction that root cannot log in directly from remote 
machines or you can specify the machines from which root can log in, 
which is a little better.

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Re: Seg faults when not root

1997-09-10 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Steve Mayer wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
Maybe some of you have run across this problem.
 
Last night I was doing my nightly check of the new packages in the
 unstable tree and downloaded and installed the bash2.01-3,
 bash-builtins2.01-3, and libreadlineg2-??? (sorry, don't have the info,
 but it is the latest out there).  After the installation of these files,
 there are quite a number of commands that no longer work unless I'm
 logged in as root.  Among these are less, more, startx, man, etc...
 Most of the commands error out with a segmentaion fault, others simply
 die without outputting any info to the console.
 
   Any ideas?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Steve Mayer
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Guess: wrong permissions on shared libs. To find out for sure, run
one of these commands with strace (if you've got it installed) to find
out exactly where the problem is.

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Re: su - user $CMD_OPTS_ARG

1997-09-10 Thread Jens B. Jorgensen
Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
 
 GNU bash, version 1.14.7(1)
 su - GNU sh-utils 1.12
 (Debian 1.2.4, going to get room for 1.3.1 soon.)
 
 VAR=command options arg ; export VAR
 
 Calling su like this
  echo $VAR | su - user
 gives a stdin: is not a tty message but does a fine job.
 
 Calling su in this other way
  su - user -c $VAR
 results in ANYTHING AFTER THE FIRST SPACE CHARACTER to be executed, that
 is only command.
 
 No problems if I _write_ on the command line what had to be taken from
 $VAR:
  su - user -c command options arg
 
 -- EXAMPLE --
 nick:~/test# ls -l
 total 3
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   20 Sep 10 16:26 file1.cat
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   30 Sep 10 16:27 file2.cat
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   46 Sep 10 16:27 file3.cat
 nick:~/test# COMMAND='ls -l /root/test' ; export COMMAND
 nick:~/test# echo $COMMAND | su - nbern
 stdin: is not a ttytotal 3
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   20 Sep 10 16:26 file1.cat
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   30 Sep 10 16:27 file2.cat
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   46 Sep 10 16:27 file3.cat
 nick:~/test# su - nbern -c $COMMAND
 --cut--
 --cut--
 
 ^ Here I get the same as from 'ls' done inside /home/nbern, that is
 COMMAND has been truncated to ls; it does not happen if I explicitly copy
 the content of $COMMAND to the command line: 
 
 nick:~/test# su - nbern -c 'ls -l /root/test'
 total 3
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   20 Sep 10 16:26 file1.cat
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   30 Sep 10 16:27 file2.cat
 -rw-r--r--   1 root root   46 Sep 10 16:27 file3.cat
 nick:~/test#
 -
 
  Am i missing something?

In:

  su - nbern -c 'ls -l /root/test'

this^^ is passed a single parameter. If
you program C or perl, you know what I mean. If instead you typed

  su - nbern -c ls -l /root/test

you'd get the same results as when you do

  su - user -c $VAR

This is becuase the variable substition (as well as file globbing and
other stuff) is done *before* chopping the line up into tokens or
parameters or whatever you wish to call them. The answer to your
problem is to do:

  su - user -c $VAR

(One reason why we need quotes which both allow and disallow substition)

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switching from ide to scsi

1997-09-10 Thread mfrattola
Hi all,
I decided to go the right way with one of my server and use scsi disk instead
of ide. That machine has already got a scsi controller (aha2940) that drives
a dat tape, so I only need to buy a scsi disk.
That machine is using debian 1.1 on ide and will probably use 1.2 on scsi.
What would be the best way to move data (and all) from the old ide disk to the
new scsi one?
Since that machine is a main server and need maximum uptime, downtime has to
be as low as possible. These are my questions:
- installing debian on scsi before moving data is not a problem, if I can plug
  in the scsi disk, install debian on it, move data and then unplug ide, but
  I don't know if this is doable (I read about having problems with ide+scsi
  disks in the same machine). Can I test the new installation without removing
  the old ide disk (just in case ..)?
- I know I could back up all the ide disk (maybe with tar? to cope with device
  files?) and then untar, but I know I should at least be careful with:
  - changing mounts (hda? to sda?)
  - rerunning lilo on scsi after changing lilo.conf
  - anything else?

Any advice is welcome.
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Background NFS Mounts

1997-09-10 Thread Brian White
I'm having a problem with my computer hanging for large amounts of time
when it is not connected to the network because of some NFS mounts it does.

I've tried adding options so it would try this in the background instead
of holding up the boot, but no luck.  Here is what I have now...

###
#
# Network filesystem mounts
#
ftp:/home/ftp   /home/ftp   nfs bg,soft,intr,posix
cvs:/var/cvs/var/cvsnfs bg,soft,intr,posix
home:/home/verisim  /home/verisim   nfs bg,soft,intr,posix
fax:/var/spool/fax  /var/spool/fax  nfs bg,soft,intr,posix
gnats:/export/gnats /var/lib/gnats  nfs bg,soft,intr,posix
gate:/export/share  /usr/share  nfs bg,soft,intr,posix

Can anybody offer any advice?

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Re: root and .rhosts file

1997-09-10 Thread Brandon Mitchell
It's a security hole (probably a simple dns spoof would gain root on
either machine.  And while I'm on the topic of security here, I'd suggest
ssh instead (harder, if not impossible to spoof).  But if you feel risky,
I think it is caused by the following:

[EMAIL PROTECTED](p1):bhmit1$ more /etc/securetty 
# /etc/securetty: list of terminals on which root is allowed to login.
# See securetty(5) and login(1).
tty1
tty2
tty3
tty4
tty5
tty6
tty7
tty8

HTH,
Brandon

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Re: Building Debian Packages

1997-09-10 Thread David Welton
On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Mark W. Blunier wrote:

 I thought that I could make a helpful document for other new developers,
 so before I forgot what it was I wanted to know as a first time installer,
 I made the document up.  I would appreciate any constructive criticism, or
 note if it is useful and should be contributed to Debian doc program.  You
 can find it at
 www.prairienet.org/~blunier/homepage.html

Thanks for doing this, it's a good description of how to build a
package:-)  I really think something like this should be made official,
possibly along with a list of package tools and brief descriptions.  Sure
we have man pages, but a list with short desctiptions would be helpful to
indicate the proper manpage to look at.

On a more technical note, a very helpful suggestion I recieved for
altering the makefile was this:

BINFILE = `pwd`/debian/tmp/usr/sbin/su1 
MANFILE = `pwd`/debian/tmp/usr/man/man1/su1.1 

If you do this with a larger package with multiple components, for
example, ircII-EPIC, which was my first package, it sets the internal
references to these /debian/tmp/ paths as well, which breaks the
program.  On the other hand, if you set the install files to their correct
directories (where they will eventually reside), such as /usr/bin, you
can't do a make install, but must instead cp all those files by hand,
which is sort of ugly.  So, the suggestion I received was to include a
variable in the Makefile such as INSTALLDIR or something, which is set to
./debian/tmp, so that it can be prepended in the correct places, but
omitted where necessary.

I think standardizing around a method like this, within reason, would be a
good thing.  Maybe this could be explained in the 'How to Create a Debian
Package' page, so that new developers would use it...?  The mish-mash of
different tools and ways of doing things, is, I'm sure, to some degree
necessary, but maybe it could be reigned in a bit?

Later,

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Re: XFree86 and Threads...

1997-09-10 Thread Richard . Dansereau
 [snip]
 
  From what I understand, just recompiling X won't give you
  anything. You would have to rewrite parts of it (probably very big
  chunks...) to be able to actually run the server in multiple threads.

I've had difficulties myself getting threads working properly
with X-windows.  I'm not sure that just recompiling things with
the -D_REENTRANT will completely work.  Though, this also depends
on a number of other things.  Like, I believe if you are using one of
the widget sets you have to also be careful.  I don't believe
that Motif 1.2 for instance (someone will correct me if I'm wrong here)
is at all reentrant and thus great care must be used if you
want to do threads.

I have found though that there are some possibilities to doing
multi-threads with ANY (presumably.. at least I've done it on various
Linux X-servers and under Solaris) X-server.  I'm developing multi-threaded
code right now in which I dedicate one and ONLY one thread for
handling all of my X-server requests.  My other threads can then
do all of my calculations, network accesses, etc.  I haven't had
any problems with it yet (other then the pain of properly designing it).

Cheers!
Richard..

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Re: xrsh?

1997-09-10 Thread Paul Rightley
I had problems with broken ssh connections (modem to home)
when sending X applications through the connection.  It went
away when I turned on the compression flag to ssh.  I have not
tried xv, though.  Otherwise, I have no troubles with ssh (and
it makes life so much easier).  I would emphatically suggest to
everyone to start using it.

Paul

On 08-Sep-97 Heikki Vatiainen wrote:
That's  hmm. interesting :) Have you tried running ssh with the
verbose flag (-v) on? That way you can see which version of ssh
and ssh protocol the local and remote end are using.

Here's an excerpt from the ssh faq:

  5.21 Ssh suddenly drops connections!

  This is a problem which has been reported by several people for
  SunOS 4, Solaris 2, Linux, and HP-UX 9 and 10, with 1.2.16 and
  1.2.17. It happens with scp, when transferring large amounts of
  data via ssh's stdin, or when forwarding an X connection which
  receives a large amount of graphics data (such as a MPEG movie).

  [rest of the answer including the patch cut]

The current released version is 1.2.20, the location of faq is 
http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~ig25/ssh-faq/

Gergely Madarasz wrote:
 
 Unfortunatelly I had trouble with ssh... the X connections are
 forwarded through the ssh channel, encrypted... and sometimes
 they get broken.
 For example I was unable to run an xv through an ssh connection,
 xv exited with server kill or something like that
 immediatelly :(
 
 Greg
 

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Re: Seg faults when not root

1997-09-10 Thread Steve Mayer
Jens,

  Thanks for the suggestion.  I thought I checked the permissions last night,
but I'll recheck them when I get home from work. I'll let you know if I figure
this one out.

Thanks,

Steve Mayer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

 Steve Mayer wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
 Maybe some of you have run across this problem.
 
 Last night I was doing my nightly check of the new packages in the
  unstable tree and downloaded and installed the bash2.01-3,
  bash-builtins2.01-3, and libreadlineg2-??? (sorry, don't have the info,
  but it is the latest out there).  After the installation of these files,
  there are quite a number of commands that no longer work unless I'm
  logged in as root.  Among these are less, more, startx, man, etc...
  Most of the commands error out with a segmentaion fault, others simply
  die without outputting any info to the console.
 
Any ideas?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Steve Mayer
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Guess: wrong permissions on shared libs. To find out for sure, run
 one of these commands with strace (if you've got it installed) to find
 out exactly where the problem is.

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Re: Can 2 CPU motherboard run not-SMP kernel?

1997-09-10 Thread Dale Martin
Nicola Bernardelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  -cut--
  2.0.31-pre7 seems to be working ok (no deadlocks).
  2.0.30 or 2.0.29 with the deadlock-patch 6 works fine too.
  --cut--
 
 Suppose that after buying a 2 CPU motherboard you find that with some I/O
 intensive application there are deadlocks, would a kernel compiled with no
 SMP run on that motherboard?
 

That will work fine.  I have had a vary stable SMP system, doing heavy
I/O, using 2.0.14.  It was in 2.0.15 that there was some
reorganization of the interrupt code that started the deadlock
problems.  (2.0.30 with no patches would deadlock on me after less
than an hour with my normal workload running, just as a datapoint.
With deadlock patch 5 I had one lockup in a few weeks.)  I have also
heard that 2.1.51 is stable under SMP, but only from one person, and I
have not tried it myself yet.

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Re: How to set up packages?

1997-09-10 Thread Joost Kooij


On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Joost_Kooij wrote:

 cd /
 mkdir cdrom   ; create a mountpoint if it does not yet exist
 mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /cdrom  ; mount the cdrom
 cd cdrom  ; you'll find the contents here
 ls -l

Aack! Braino! You have to:

cd /

before you can unmount the device, or it will say device or resource
busy and stay mounted.

 umount /cdrom ; unmount before you eject the cd

 Better still, you can edit /etc/fstab and add an appropriate line to make 
 life a little easier. Just look at the lines that are already there to 
 get an idea of what you should add. 'man 5 fstab' is your friend btw.

This is what it looks like on my computer:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system mount point type  optionsdump  pass
[snip]
/dev/scd0   /cdromiso9660 defaults,noauto,user,ro  0   0
 
 In the options field add `user', so you can mount the device as mortal
 user and `noauto' so linux doesn't try to mount a possibly empty cdrom 
 tray at boot time.

As you can notice above, I also forgot to mention the ro (readonly)
option in my previous posting.
 
 When you have done this, `mount /dcrom` will mount the cdrom.
 
 `cat /etc/mtab` shows what is mounted now, just like `mount` btw.
 
 
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K Desktop Environment

1997-09-10 Thread shawn . fumo
Hello everyone...

I was just looking at KDE's website (http://www.kde.org), and was 
very impressed with some of the things I saw.

I know it is still in alpha, but does anyone have experiance with how 
stable it is on Debian? I also saw that it is availible in deb package
form...

For anyone that hasn't heard of it yet, it is a windows manager + 
other components which run on top of X and the QT graphics toolkit. 
From what I could see, the current applications seem to be of high 
quality, and looks like it has a lot of promise...

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Which files should I download to install linux?

1997-09-10 Thread Hasibul Haque
Hi:,

I want to install linux, but I am not sure which files I should
download  from the ftp site. I read the readme file, it does not tell
which files I should download. I would appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks.

Hasibul Haque

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Re: Background NFS Mounts

1997-09-10 Thread Pete Harlan
 I'm having a problem with my computer hanging for large amounts of time
 when it is not connected to the network because of some NFS mounts it does.

You can use the noauto option, and spawn a background job to mount
them in a minute.  E.g.,


fstab:
--
flakey:/ /nfs/flakey nfs defaults,soft,noauto  0  0


/etc/rc.boot/local: (or wherever you put these things)
---
# Mount flakey soon.
echo mount /nfs/flakey | at now + 1 minute


Works for us; if you don't want to be emailed when it fails you can
redirect 2/dev/null.

G'Luck,

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Re: K Desktop Environment

1997-09-10 Thread Oliver Elphick
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  Hello everyone...
  
  I was just looking at KDE's website (http://www.kde.org), and was 
  very impressed with some of the things I saw.
  
  I know it is still in alpha, but does anyone have experiance with how 
  stable it is on Debian? I also saw that it is availible in deb package
  form...

I tried using it for a while instead of fvwm.  It still deserves its
`alpha' designation, in my opinion.  It has a tendency to hang at times.
The kdehelp browser can't cope with relative links.

No doubt such things will be improved in due course.

It is a pleasant environment, but not yet very stable.  I'm not sure
what it has got that should make me change permanently from fvwm.


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Re: su - user $CMD_OPTS_ARG

1997-09-10 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Jens B. Jorgensen wrote:

   su - user -c $VAR
 

GREAT! THANK YOU, fool I am, I had tried to put quotes _INSIDE_ $VAR, like
in VAR='ls -l'!!! Thank you!

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Re: Debian + PC with multi RS... port - n x (text dumb terminal + printer)

1997-09-10 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Joey Hess wrote:

 Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
   3) What if the text dumb terminals connected to a Linux Box also need
  a printer each (or almost any of them)? Is it possible that
  data is sent to the printer and terminal via the same line?
  Brandname + model?
 
 I have 2 old wyse 75 terminals, which have a Aux port. I think everything
 received by the terminal also goes out this port, though I've never tried
 it. 
 
 -- 
 see shy jo
 

 Thank you for replying... sure I'm putting one question that involves
just _the_basics_ of multi-user environments... I stopped making software
for Windog an year ago, I really had enough of Microsoft and Borland, I
bring lot of intensive C/C++ days and nights with me, I'm learning quite a
lot on Linux which I had been using for about three years before deciding
that IT IS greener grass, great tools, great minds searching QUALITY,
greener grass indeed... I still lack the basics but now I need them, as I
plan to build an application based on PostgreSQL running on a Debain
GNU/Linux box with text dumb terminals.

 So I add one more question: from a software point of view, how would
such a terminal+printer couple (if possible) get managed? Just something
to say to the OS?


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Re: Can 2 CPU motherboard run not-SMP kernel?

1997-09-10 Thread Nicola Bernardelli
 Thanks to you all for answering! Good news then, it seems as SMP is
not that critical... LINUX is really GREAT! Please, let me know if any of
you remembers of motherboards that it is better stay far from.

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On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Jeff Noxon wrote:

 On Wed, Sep 10, 1997 at 05:18:10PM -0200, Nicola Bernardelli wrote:
   Date: Fri, 29 Aug 1997 11:50:02 -0700
   From: Philippe Troin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: 2 CPU servers
  
   -cut--
   2.0.31-pre7 seems to be working ok (no deadlocks).
   2.0.30 or 2.0.29 with the deadlock-patch 6 works fine too.
   --cut--
  
  Suppose that after buying a 2 CPU motherboard you find that with some I/O
  intensive application there are deadlocks, would a kernel compiled with no
  SMP run on that motherboard?
 
 Yes.  In that case you just have an idle CPU.


On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Benedikt Eric Heinen wrote:

 Yes, no problem with that. I still have the old Debian kernel image as a
 backup in my lilo.conf, all other kernels here are SMP (even the second 
 single CPU machine I had ran the SMP kernel, so I could use the identical
 kernel image on both machines -- by now both machines here are DualPPros 
 working fine).


On 10 Sep 1997, Dale Martin wrote:

 That will work fine.  I have had a vary stable SMP system, doing heavy
 I/O, using 2.0.14.  It was in 2.0.15 that there was some
 reorganization of the interrupt code that started the deadlock
 problems.  (2.0.30 with no patches would deadlock on me after less
 than an hour with my normal workload running, just as a datapoint.
 With deadlock patch 5 I had one lockup in a few weeks.)  I have also
 heard that 2.1.51 is stable under SMP, but only from one person, and I
 have not tried it myself yet.





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imlib/enlightenment packages

1997-09-10 Thread Paul Ryan Kuykendall

Is anyone currently working on an enlightenment package, or one
for the corresponding graphics library, imlib?  Thanks.

Paul


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mouse

1997-09-10 Thread Jesse Goldman
Hi,

Anyone have any experience with the Logitech TrackMan mouse? I can't
seem to get the thing to work right either with X or with gpm. Does it use
the Logitech MouseMan protocal? Microsoft Protocal?

Thanks,

J. Goldman


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Using the X with ATI Pro Turbo

1997-09-10 Thread Brian White
Has anybody had any success in running X with an ATI 3D Graphics Pro Turbo
video card?  I'm having great difficulty getting it to display on my
monitor.

 - 1600x1200 mode isn't available (too low dot-clock),
 - 1280x1024 doesn't display (screen stays black)
 - 1024x768  runs (doesn't sync)
 - 800x600   runs (doesn't sync)
 - 640x480   repeats (gives the right have of the screen twice more)

I'm using a 21 ViewSonic P810 monitor.  All these modes work fine
under Win95.

I've tried everything I can think of.  Commenting out the higher speed
modes in XF86Config has no effect.  Changing h/v sync has no effect.

Does anybody have any ideas?

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Re: IP aliasing

1997-09-10 Thread m*
Maarten Boekhold wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I tried to steup an IP alias on a machine here. According to the
 Virtual-Web mini-HOWTO, I can do:
 
 ifconfig eth0 alias new-address
 
 However, ifconfig says 'alias' is not a hostname. 'man ifconfig' doesn't
 say anything about aliasing. This is with netbase 2.13-1.
 
 Anybody who can get me goin' on this?
 
 Maarten
 

i had a similar problem today!

in addition to Remco and Eloy, check to make sure your kernel
has network aliasing and aliasing support configured in.

if you configure aliasing support as a module ( ip_alias ),
make sure you load that module at boot.

m*

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Re: Using the X with ATI Pro Turbo

1997-09-10 Thread Jeff Noxon
There are many reasons why I will never buy another ATI product.
This is one of them:  They keep introducing new Mach64 chips that are not
driver-compatible with the previous generations.  This has bitten XFree
users many times.  There may be a work-around, but you'll probably have
to wait for a new version of the server.

You may want to check the source code for some undocumented config
switches that may help you out (by turning off various features, etc.)
This helped me once before with a Rev.1 Mach64.

Good luck,

Jeff

On Wed, Sep 10, 1997 at 05:07:17PM -0400, Brian White wrote:
 Has anybody had any success in running X with an ATI 3D Graphics Pro Turbo
 video card?  I'm having great difficulty getting it to display on my
 monitor.
 
  - 1600x1200 mode isn't available (too low dot-clock),
  - 1280x1024 doesn't display (screen stays black)
  - 1024x768  runs (doesn't sync)
  - 800x600   runs (doesn't sync)
  - 640x480   repeats (gives the right have of the screen twice more)
 
 I'm using a 21 ViewSonic P810 monitor.  All these modes work fine
 under Win95.
 
 I've tried everything I can think of.  Commenting out the higher speed
 modes in XF86Config has no effect.  Changing h/v sync has no effect.
 
 Does anybody have any ideas?


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Re: root and .rhosts file; kerberos

1997-09-10 Thread Rick Hawkins

On a similar vein, has anyone managed to make debian  kerberos machines talk 
this way?

mit has .rpm packages of kerberos  afs.  However, alien gives plenty of 
nonstandard executable location errors when converting.  Also, kerberos 
versions of some programs should (apparently) replace regular versions, but 
this information wouldn't be included in the .deb.

I have gotten a response hre at ISU, which kindly explains how to modify the 
source of my pop client :)

anyway, it seems I need kerberos to get my pop-3 mail and to rsh to the 
university machines.

rick



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Logitech TrackMan

1997-09-10 Thread Jesse Goldman
Hi,

If anyone knows the answer to my previous question re: Logitech TrackMan
mouse (ie, what support to compile in, what protocal is it? etc), could
you reply in personal email as well as to the list? I'm going out of town
for a few days so I'll have to temporarily unsubscribe. Thanks much...

J. Goldman


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Re: K Desktop Environment

1997-09-10 Thread Kevin J Poorman

On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:06:35 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello everyone...

I was just looking at KDE's website (http://www.kde.org), and was 
very impressed with some of the things I saw.

I know it is still in alpha, but does anyone have experiance with how 
stable it is on Debian? I also saw that it is availible in deb package
form...


Yes ... I use it all the time... it's kinda sorta stable (ok I'll
explain) it's prety much stable ... I have about one or two seg faults /
lockups a week ... however when it locks it locks so well you have to
flip the power swich ... It also has a problem ... Kpanel will core dump
when you exit it... Kfm is good if not a little slow on my 486x66 ... I
like it  Very flexable ...

For anyone that hasn't heard of it yet, it is a windows manager + 
other components which run on top of X and the QT graphics toolkit. 
From what I could see, the current applications seem to be of high 
quality, and looks like it has a lot of promise...

Yes ... although development seems to have slowed down somewhat ...



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Video Cards

1997-09-10 Thread Chad D. Zimmerman

Ok, getting tired of 640x480 and 8bpp color  gona do some looking this
weekend for a new video card.  Anyone have recomendations that i can check
into?  X Supported of course and able to go 800x600 and 16bpp ...

Only limiting factor is: Can't be over $200 :(  (College ya know)

Chad

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Re: Using the X with ATI Pro Turbo

1997-09-10 Thread Brian White
 Has anybody had any success in running X with an ATI 3D Graphics Pro Turbo
 video card?  I'm having great difficulty getting it to display on my
 monitor.
 
  - 1600x1200 mode isn't available (too low dot-clock),
  - 1280x1024 doesn't display (screen stays black)
  - 1024x768  runs (doesn't sync)
  - 800x600   runs (doesn't sync)
  - 640x480   repeats (gives the right have of the screen twice more)
 
 I'm using a 21 ViewSonic P810 monitor.  All these modes work fine
 under Win95.
 
 I've tried everything I can think of.  Commenting out the higher speed
 modes in XF86Config has no effect.  Changing h/v sync has no effect.
 
 Does anybody have any ideas?

Just to provide a little more information...

The card works fine in VGA16 mode (if you call 640x480 fine).

Under the SVGA driver, it has the same problems as describe above, more
or less.

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