Compilando gnome-libs
Hola a la lista... Estoy compilando gnome-libs, uso egcc, pero con gcc obtengo el mismo resultado: cuando llega al fichero gnome-color-selector, se produce un error, cuyo motivo he sido incapaz de determinar hasta ahora: gnome-color-selector.c:182: parse error before dkEventDropDataAvailable' gnome-color-selector.c: In function olor_dropped': gnome-color-selector.c:188: ata' undeclared (first use in this function) gnome-color-selector.c:188: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once gnome-color-selector.c:188: for each function it appears in.) gnome-color-selector.c:190: vent' undeclared (first use in this function) make[3]: *** [gnome-color-selector.lo] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory /root/trabajo/gnome-libs-0.30.1/libgnomeui' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory /root/trabajo/gnome-libs-0.30.1' make[1]: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory /root/trabajo/gnome-libs-0.30.1' make: *** [build-debstamp] Error 2 No creo que sea un bug. La version de gnome-libs es 0.30-5.dsc. ¿sabeis que puede ser? Saludos.
off topic UNIX
Buenas. Perdonad el off-topic, pero es por cuestiones de trabajo, y es posible que luego de leer ésto, haya alguien de por aquí que pueda ayudarme fuera ya de la lista. Tengo una empresa que necesita que por la noche, su máquina de una localidad, contacte con otra de otra localidad (todavía ni sé si tienen acceso a Internet o no), y una vez que consigan el contacto, se pasen ficheros entre ellos. Teoricamente se haría llamando directamente vía módem+línea telefónica. El único problema reside en que las dos máquinas son SCO, y no lo conozco para nada, hasta ahora tan sólo he trabajado con Linux, y estoy (mejor dicho, estamos) muy mal acostumbrado/s a que se trata de un entorno al que no le falta nada para lo que sea. Estoy pendiente de que me llamen, y en cuanto lo hagan, averiguaré para qué utilizan el SCO, e intentaré por todos los medios hacerlos migrar a Linux. Si mientras tanto, alguien de por aquí ha trabajado con SCO, y me puede orientar sobre cómo puedo hacer ésto, o de las similitudes entre él y Linux, o de que se puede hacer de la misma manera en uno que en otro, que por favor se ponga en contacto conmigo lo antes posible, en la dirección: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Muchas gracias por todo. -- Have a nice day ;-) Grupo AGUILA TooManySecretsHay gente que vive y merece morir, y gente que muere y merece vivir. ¿Puedes devolver la vida? Pues no te apresures a dispensarla, ya que ni el más sabio conoce el fin de todos los caminos Gandalf (The Lord of the Rings)
Re: Actualización B0 = Hamm ¡¡SOCORRO!!
Hola. Los mensajes de perl acerca de LC_ALL y tal son normales, hasta que el nuevo perl está instalado y se siente a gusto en el nuevo entorno. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (/root)# apt-get install timezones locales apt-get: can't load library 'libstdc++.so.27' Prueba dpkg --pending --configure -- 4a6a4272f92e04f72771d0ce4ad458ce (a truly random sig)
HAMM
Hola a todos: ¿ Hay alguna imagen del personaje HAMM ? Lo digo porque si los nombres de las versiones de Debian estan sacados de Toy Story, cual de ellos es Hamm ? Puedo encontrar en Internet alguna imagen del personaje en cuestion ? Es para ilustrar unos CD's de Debian 2.0R3. Un saludo, Juan Carlos Valero --
Re: Problema con los menus
Así en general, el paquete menú lo que hace es crear los ficheros menu.hook para cada uno de los wm. O sea que para saber si es problema del menú, pues busca a ver si existen estos ficheros y mira su contenido. Segunda cosa. Existe el comando update-menus, que puedes ejecutar en cualquier momento si quieres actualizar a mano los menús. Y tercera y última. Si a veces no te aparece un paquete, aunque esté instalado, comprueba que lo tienes perfectamente configurado. A ver si por problemas con dependencias te ha quedado sin instalar. A mi me pasó con el GIMP. Me volví loco porque no aparecía en los menús, y todo era culpa de que aún no estaba configurado (me faltaba un paquede del que dependía). Una vez metido ese paquete y con un dpkg --configure -a, funcionó. Y ya cuarta (menudo rollo me meto). Utilizad el menu.prehook y menu.posthook para añadir vuestros comandos a los menús mejor que cambiar el menu.hook. Es 100% compatible con el sistema de Debian con lo cual no os dará ningún problema en el futuro. -- Saudos: ose[EMAIL PROTECTED](Vigo/Galicia/España) http://pagina.de/xmanoel/ http://w3.to/mikkeli/ 12/16 Beethoven born, 1770 12/16 Don McLean's American Pie is released, 1971 12/16 Ludwig von Beethoven christened in Bonn, Germany, 1770 12/16 (12/16/1773) Boston Tea Party (30-60 patriots and 342 chests of tea). 12/16 (12/16/1770) Ludwig Van Beethoven, composer.
Re: HAMM
On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 03:36:09PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ¿ Hay alguna imagen del personaje HAMM ? Lo digo porque si los nombres de las versiones de Debian estan sacados de Toy Story, cual de ellos es Hamm ? Puedo encontrar en Internet alguna imagen del personaje en cuestion ? Es para ilustrar unos CD's de Debian 2.0R3. El cerdito. Busca en http://www.toystory.com/ Slink es el perro de resorte (slinky, para los que conocen esos juguetes) y Potato es Mr. Potato Head, el señor cabeza de papa. Cuidado con los copyrights, ¿verdad? (debian usa solo los nombres, nunca ha usado las imágenes para nada) Marcelo
Problemas con el correo
Siguiendo los consejos de Xose Manoel transferí la configuración del root al usuario normal vigu mediante # cp -R /root /home/vigu # chown -R vigu:vigu /home/vigu El problema aparece cuando arranco TkRat, el cual se bloquea al detectar un fichero /var/spool/mail/vigu (si espero un rato se desbloquea sól, si arranco pine o mutt me lo desbloquean pues borran dichjo fichero), ¿qué es ese fichero?, ¿cómo puedo hacer para que no se me bloquee TkRat?. Otro problema que tengo es que al bajarme el correo del servidor me lo pone en /var/spool/mail/root en vez de en /var/spool/mail/vigu, ¿a qué se debe esto?, ¿cóm puedo solucionarlo?. GRACIAS a vuestras respuestas, estos días estoy poniendo a punto el correo con sendmail+fetchmail en un usuario normal, pues hasta ahora usaba root para todo ... ¡que brutito!. GRACIAS por broquearme por el mal uso de root Santiago y Xose Manoel por poner los punto sobre las ies en el uso abusivo o Güindosero ;-) de root. -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problemas con el correo
On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otro problema que tengo es que al bajarme el correo del servidor me lo pone en /var/spool/mail/root en vez de en /var/spool/mail/vigu, ¿a qué se debe esto?, ¿cómo puedo solucionarlo?. Ejecuta fetchmail desde el usuario vigu. Es vigu el que debe traerse el correo, no root. -- bfd4dc556ec062fbc0cc6c71c26f6c41 (a truly random sig)
Re: X-windows (ATI 3D Rage II)
At 11:46 AM 12/15/1998 -0600, KTB wrote: I have been reading and working with Debian for a week now and I can't even answer the questions you ask. Here is my best shot: At the X-Free86 web site they said to run X -showconfig I did and it said that I am using version 3.3.2.3 / window system (Protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300). The release date is July, 15 1998 it said if it was older that 6-12 months get a new version. I don't have a clue yet as to how I hook up to the internet with Linux. If I have to download a newer version than maybe I can stick it on a floppy using windows or something. I ran ls -a and didn't see any file for X. I tried dpkg --status XF86Config it said not installed and no info available. So I don't know if I am looking in the right spots or not but I can't find a XF86Config file to look at. I also don't know how to find the output of X. I know this isn't much but it's all I can muster at the moment. Thanks, Kent Martin Waller wrote: Hi, Under BO (Debian 1.3), I had the same problem with the same video card and kept getting the message: Warning: Mach64Clkt 16 (or something similar). I upgraded to hamm (with it's newer version of XFree86) and the problem went away. What version of X are you using? What's the output of: X any name for file where x startup messages willbe stored.txt 21 (e.g. X myXerrors.txt 21) Whats your XF86Config file look like? Martin Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 01:18:07 -0600 From: KTB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: X-windows OK, I called IBM (I'm using an Aptiva 2137-E24). My monitor is SVGA, she said the chipset is ATI (I found more detailed info in Windows, it is an ATI RAGE II + 3D graphic controller); the RamDac she said was 24MB but after looking at the drop down menu (while trying to configure x-windows) I think she was referring to the amount of SDRAM my computer came with; the clockchip she said was an overlay chip and couldn't provide any additional info; the video Ram is 2MB SGRAM. The monitor is a G42 (M/T 6540) color 14 inch crt. So that is the monitor info I don't know if that is enough to go by. The closest chipset to mine seems to be Ati Mach 64 3D Rage II, Internal RAMDAC which I tried and ended up with a black screen. I also noticed when going through the set up of my mouse (it is a PS/2 I set it to /dev/psaux) that by default it sets to a 3 button mouse and I only have two buttons, I couldn't figure out how to change that. I didn't receive any more error messages so I can't add to that. Hope this isn't too convoluted. Thanks, Kent Mark Phillips wrote: Hi, I am trying to install the GUI for the first time. I have tried it twice and failed both times. Don't despair, it sometimes takes a while to configure X properly, but you'll get there. Firstly, what information do you have about your computer hardware? Have you recently bought the computer? You should try and find out what kind of graphics card it has, what chipset the graphics card uses etc etc. Sometimes the graphics card is an actual card that is inserted into the bus on the motherboard of your computer. Other times, the graphics chip is built into the actual motherboard itself. In either case you need to find out what kind of chipset it is. This will tell you which xserver to use. The most common type of xserver that is used is xserver-svga, so it is most likely you will have to use this one. You also need to know what kind of mouse you have. Is it a two button mouse or a three button mouse? Is it a serial mouse? What kind of monitor do you have? the instillation program it tries to bring the the x-windows up but it can't and says there was errono=111 What other information does it tell you? It might tell you what chipset it detected and other information. Does it describe anything else about the error? See what information you can find out, and then get back to this list. Hopefully either I, or someone else on the list, will be able to help some more. Cheers, Mark. Here's my two cents on it: Make sure your /etc/X11/Xserver has a first line that refers to SVGA, not VGA16 or NONE or something similar. If running XF86Setup doesn't give you a usable XF86Config file, try running xf86config (not the case; Linux is case-sensitive) (XF86Setup is graphical, xf86config is text-based). Also, when running XF86Setup, tell it No when/if asked if you want to use your existing XF86Config file for defaults. You need to know the horizontal and refresh rates of your monitor. If you can't learn that, you can experiment, but be aware you can fry your monitor with the wrong rates. In XF86Setup, you can probably safely select a pre-defined setting (ie SuperVGA, VGA, etc) when you get to that point, if you're confident your monitor can handle that setting.
Re: missing header file
On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Mike Touloumtzis wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 1998 at 10:57:21PM -0700, Robert Kerr wrote: Hi, I'm trying to port a program from HP-UX to Linux, but I seem to be missing a header file. This seems kind of strange to me, since the header file is present in the gcc directories on the HP's, but nowhere is it to be found on my LInux box. The header file is generic.h. Where can I get this? H... can't help you with this one; not familiar with HP-UX. Second question. Can someone enlighten me as to the difference between g++ and egcs, and what is compatible with what? 'g++' could be either the GNU gcc version or egcs. I have gcc 2.7.2.3 installed as my C compiler, but egcs for C++ (this is Hamm): sarcastro:~$ g++ --version egcs-2.90.29 980515 (egcs-1.0.3 release) sarcastro:~$ gcc --version 2.7.2.3 sarcastro:~$ dpkg -l | egrep 'gcc|egcs' ii egcs-docs 2.90.29-0.6Documentation for the egcs compilers (egcc, ii g++ 2.90.29-0.6The GNU (egcs) C++ compiler. ii gcc 2.7.2.3-4.8The GNU C compiler. ii libstdc++2.82.90.29-0.6The GNU stdc++ library (egcs version) Egcs (pronounced 'eggs') is hosted by Cygnus and was started because of historical concerns about gcc's slow pace of development and small, closed group of developers. Egcs _is_ gcc; it was forked off the gcc code, but I'd imagine that for C++, at least, egcs has seen some serious changes. The consensus seems to be that for C++, egcs offers much better compatibility with the ISO standard and a greater push to incorporate modern ideas in compiler design (the egcs/gcc backend is still years out of date in some areas). The way the gcc/egcs scenario will ideally work is that egcs is the more advanced, experimental compiler, and features from it are backmerged into gcc as they become stable. It has yet to be determined if this is workable. miket Thanks for the explanation. I find that I have the same setup as you do, and now I even understand it. -bob The amount of time between slipping on the peel and landing on the pavement is precisely one bananosecond--- ** * Robert Kerr, The morphing guy. *368 Clyde Building, BYU * * [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Provo, Utah 84602* * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Phone: (801) 378-2029 * * http://www.et.byu.edu/~kerrr* Fax: (801) 378-4449 * **
Re: DNS problem
Shao Zhang wrote: Hi all, when I download netscape, I got the following error from Netscape 4.5: Bad Domain DNS NAME: Host Name: november.uws.EDU.AU IP Address: 137.154.230.60 Your DNS name probably won't be accepted. Click here for more info. I clicked more info and get the following: General We could not verify your domain as not known to be foreign, or your domain could not be resolved by reverse DNS. You're trying to download the _US_ version of Netscape from Australia, and Big Brother, I mean, Uncle Sam, says that's a no-no. You cannot download this software unless your network connection does reverse DNS, and your domain is not known to be foreign. You may need to contact your system administrator. You can get the Export Version if one exists. Why not just install the netscape packages? They're in potato, and slink too I belive. The Export Version of Netscape contains only 40-bit encryption, instead of 128-bit, that's the only difference. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PGP and GPG public keys at http://meta-x.net/keys/
transparent xload?
Does anyone know if there exists a transparent version of xload? I've got a nice root background for X, but I I also want xload stuck on my desk. I was thinking it would be nice to have a type of xload that maybe only draws an outline of its window on my desktop, and have only the actual usage graph opaque (i.e. regions not filled in by the peaks and valleys are transparent). Is there such a utility? Thanks! Matt -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They're always havin' a good time down on the bayou, Lord, them delta women think the world of me. -- Dickey Betts, Ramblin' Man
Re: Running seperate eth0 ppp0 networks
On Mon, Dec 14, 1998 at 03:29:49PM +, Ian Stuart wrote: I'm trying to set up my machine to use two networks: I occasionally access an ISP (who requires that all non-web access is done only through their modem-banks) on my workstation which is connected to my academic LAN. what I wish to do is set up my PPP connection so that (when it is up) all requests for the ISPs network is routed via ppp0, whilst all other traffic is routed via eth0 how? (Assume that my academic lan is the class B 129.1 and my ISP is the class B 130.2) Try something like: route add -net 130.2.0.0 dev ppp0 Your default route should stay on your ethernet. I think there are ip.up and ip.down scripts that are executed automatically by ppp. Add the above line to ip.up and a similar line with delete instead of add to ip.down. Untested. I'm not using ppp. -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Alantro Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xbiff
On Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 03:09:08PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: Shao Zhang hat gesagt: // Shao Zhang wrote: Is it possible to use xbiff to watch out for two files?? I want it to watch /var/spool/mail/my account ~/mail/debian at the same time!!! Never tried this until now but this seems to work: $ xbiff -file /var/spool/mail/account -file ~/mail/debian You can also try xbuffy. -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Alantro Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
suEXEC and ~user/cgi-bin
Hello All, I just can't figure out how to get cgi's to work in the home directories. The log shows suEXEC is running and cgis work from /var/www/cgi-bin. In the home directory I have /home/user/public_html/cgi-bin. I'm using apache for the server. I've looked through the manuals and tried the list archives to no avail. Thanks digger
Xpm
Hi, I just ran ./configure for xscreensaver and it said that Xpm was not installed - in /usr/X11R6/lib I have: libXpm.a libXpm.so libXpm.so.4 libXpm.so.4.7 Isn't this what I need? If not where can I get the run-time libraries, static development libraries and header files for Xpm? I cannot install the debian package xpm4g-dev as it depends on xlib6g-dev, which I don't have installed. Thanks. -- Charles
Re: Netscape, samba, power, awe64 ?s
Brian Morgan wrote: Having some trouble using debian 2.0.34 2. Downloaded netscape from netscape.com, ran ns-install, and now I get an error: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4' I've had this problem in the past, on another debian machine, but I don't remember how I solved it. Any suggestions? You would need the xpm4.7 package under oldlibs for a libc5 version of Netscape. 3. Any way to turn off power saving mode? I'd like my screen to stay on at all times, but it turns black after 10-20 minutes or so. (I'm not actually sure how long it takes, but it's always off when I leave and come back into my office.) I'd love to be able to show-off all those fancy XWindow screensavers! Check out the xset command. 4. I think someone offered advice on this before, but I'd like some help getting an awe64 soundcard to work. Isn't there something I have to do to recompile a the kernel? Sounds kind of scarey, for a newbie. Can anyone help? Well, get your copy of the kernel source. Then download the awe32 patch (available as Debian package). Follow the instructions in the /usr/src/awe-source (I think...its awe-something). Then go and configure your kernel. You will also need isapnp for the awe64. You can take a look at the KERNEL-HOWTO and Sound-HOWTO for more info. There should also be one for the Awe32 if I remember correctly. Hope this helps -- Paul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Configuring modem and connecting to the net
Hi, I am a new user to Linux. I have installed the Debian base system so far. Part of that involved setting up the Connection configs to connect to my ISP. Now, what packages do I require to set up my external modem and what is the command I execute to connect to the net. How do I assign the user (instead of the root) the right to dial up the connection? Perhaps if you could direct me to some how-to's. That would be appreciated. Thanks. Chui Tey
Cyrillic and Communicator 4.5
To be more specific regarding my previous mail: Here is a problem.. I can view russian pages. I can not read the title on top of the browser for russian page, but I can read it in the bookmarks just fine. form handling is not working. But I can type in URL's without any problem. In message composer, I can type in russian in To: and Subject: fields. But in message body it's not working. I think the fact that I can type in russian at least in some places says that keyboard support is setup correct. I have xruskb installed as a switcher, cronyx 2.2 fonts. ANy input welcome. TIA, Andrew
Install on Adaptec 7890?
Problem: Dell Precision 410 has two SCSI adapters on the motherboard, Adaptec 7880 with CD-ROM connected and Adaptec 7890 with the hard drive. Now installing Debian 2.0 fails. It sees the CD-ROM but not the hard drive. It seems this is because the Debian 2.0 Rescue disk has kernel 2.0.34, and this kernel does not support Adaptec 7890. I looked at 2.0.36 kernel, which seems to have this support. I compiled a new kernel with 2.0.36 sources, and got boot-floppies Debian package, but have not figured out how to get this new kernel on a Rescue Disk. Does some kind soul already have a Rescue disk with support for Adapted 7890? Or can someone give me some advice on making the disk. -- Tapio Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
Hi, thanks to all the people who have offered advice with configuring X-windows. I have not been successful and am brain dead at this point. I also tried hooking up to the internet with the same result. I chose the debian release because I wanted to learn more about computers (I have only used a pc off and on for the past year) and I like the philosophy behind Debian. I am wondering if Debian is just too difficult for me at this point. I am wondering if maybe I should try Red Hat, I have heard it is easier to install, and then come back to Debian. Does this sound like a logical progression to anyone? I don't have experience with either one so I just don't know the best course to take. Thanks, Kent
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
like the philosophy behind Debian. I am wondering if Debian is just too difficult for me at this point. I am wondering if maybe I should try Red Hat, I have heard it is easier to install, and then come back to Debian. Does this sound like a logical progression to anyone? I don't have experience with either one so I just don't know the best course to take. in my experience debian is actually easier then redhat. the reason people say that redhat is easier is that it has more gui tools which do make the very beginning a little easier but i find make anything beyond that harder. if debian is where you would like to end up, i'd say stick with it. see if you can find a local linux users group to hook up with, buy a couple books (there is a debian book available from amazon that a friend just bought that looks like a good introduction). there are packages available to make most stuff pretty easy, you're just at that stage where everything is new and everything is confusing. good luck! adam.
Help installing Linux on a Toshiba laptop
I'm attempting to install Debian onto my laptop. I know I need the tecra disk images, but I'm still having problems. So far I've: Downloaded the files to a directory on my Win95 C: drive. I renamed resc1440tecra.bin to resc1440.bin and drv1440tecra.bin to drv1440.bin. I also guess that the ltecra file should overwrite the linux file, so I renamed ltecra to linux as well. When I reboot and execute install.bat, I get a locked up PC with a few chars of garbage. I took a guess that linux was having problems installing from my compressed C: drive, so I rebooted with a Win95 boot disk and tried again. This time, I got the A20 gate error. I'm confused, aren't the tecra images supposed to get around this? Or did I forget something? I checked the mailing lists, but all it said was: 1) Get a patch - but it doesn't say what the patch is - other than that is what the tecra disks are for and 2) build a new Zimage - a moot point since I can't even load Linux on the machine at this point. What's wrong?
irqtune
I'm trying to fix a serial link speed problem; We are having speed problems over a serial PPP link, trying to realize the 115K capacity of the physical link. Using a commercial com server (Xyplex) I get 115K each way; replacing it with an small Linux (Debian LRP) I get about 70-90K max; and highly asymmetrical (testing via FTPs to local Suns). We have two 486's; 32M each, high speed Uarts (16550). We get bursts of fast throughput, so it doesn't seem physical (setserial, ...), but overall throughput is too low. Are there some secrets here that we should know? All routers and system used have MTU of 1500. Also, is there a way to query the ppp driver for its current configuration? We are looking for ways to analyse what is the cause of the slowdown; any recommended analysis methods? Thanks, Greg Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] [please (also) reply via Email] Someone sugested to use irqtune; but I then saw this, which implies that that would not be needed, itis in the kernel; yes? --- On Sun, 01 Sep 1996 11:12:42 +0300 Linus Torvalds ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: In my never-ending battle to make the kernel behave well by default without needing irqtune (which is very setup-specific, and as such not something the kernel can do automatically), I was thinking of doing interrupt priority rotations instead of the current fixed mode. Just to tell you that this patch gave me the same effect as irqtune did before: full serial speed. Actually, I applied the 2.0.17 patch which contained this small patch. I'm glad this thing's in the kernel now. --- Gregory Guthrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] (515)472-1125Fax: -1103 Computer Science Department College of Science and Technology Maharishi University of Management http://www.mum.edu/csdept
Re: QUantifiable reasons to use debian instead of redhat...?
Quoting Joe Emenaker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Now, being on the bleeding edge has its drawbacks. My co-workers sometimes get on my case for always upgrading to the latest stuff in unstable. However, I prefer the occasional broken install to an outright security hole. I *can* say this since these IMAP breakins... nobody's been complaining to me about how often I upgrade the packages. FWIW, you can use apt and point it at the proposed-updates area. That will get any security fixes for the current stable dist, but won't get broken development packages. Mike Stone
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, KTB wrote: Hi, thanks to all the people who have offered advice with configuring X-windows. I have not been successful and am brain dead at this point. I also tried hooking up to the internet with the same result. I've looked through the postsdidnt see anything. What is the problem? I've been through the worst that could have happened: PnP (Plug and Play) modem and Linux. If you can not get modem to work, there can be a lot of reasons. So, ask away. Althoughyou have to know how the computer works. At least a little bit. Open your machine up. Look up the boards. See whats up. Gather all the info you can...just don't pull any boards out. About the modem: look if it's a Winmodem. Usually USRobotics modems are ones. If it's Winmodemyou are out of luck and even RedHat will fail to work with it, no matter how easy it shoudl be to install. As for X: You don't get to learn much by sitting and letting an automated script autodetect/install everything for you. X can be a pain to install...yeah. Noone said Linux was easy (lets say, as easy as Windows, to install). Installing X has 4 parts, really: 1.Find out what card you have and select the closest library to support it. 2. Find out the specs on your monitor...Use the net. I had no idea what the specs were on my AcerView 34T. Looked around, found them, and was able to run at 800x640, instead of 640x480, much faster too. 3. Set up the mouse. 4. Set up the windows manager. All those steps are pretty easy. Just take time. So, cheer up. Easier does not mean better. Never include a comment that will help | Andrew Ivanov someone else understand your code. | [EMAIL PROTECTED] If they understand it, they don't | ICQ: 12402354 need you. |
Internet access
OK, I ran pppconfig and after I was done I entered the command pon and I heard my modem begin dialing. I did this as root user. I then tried it as a regular user and the modem didn't dial when I entered pon. I then realized even if I do get hooked up I have no idea how to tell that the dial up was successful. I am suppose to have a mail program called mailx but I can't get it to come up. I have read the info page but don't see how to activate or load mailx. Dselect says it is installed. I looked at a ppp how to but it looks way too complicated for me right now. Does anyone have a clear description of how to hook up to the net and use a simple email program? Or where I could find this information? Thanks, Kent
Re: DNS problem
Damon Buckwalter wrote: Shao Zhang wrote: Hi all, when I download netscape, I got the following error from Netscape 4.5: Bad Domain DNS NAME: Host Name: november.uws.EDU.AU IP Address: 137.154.230.60 Your DNS name probably won't be accepted. Click here for more info. I clicked more info and get the following: General We could not verify your domain as not known to be foreign, or your domain could not be resolved by reverse DNS. You're trying to download the _US_ version of Netscape from Australia, and Big Brother, I mean, Uncle Sam, says that's a no-no. You cannot download this software unless your network connection does reverse DNS, and your domain is not known to be foreign. You may need to contact your system administrator. You can get the Export Version if one exists. Why not just install the netscape packages? They're in potato, and slink too I belive. The Export Version of Netscape contains only 40-bit encryption, instead of 128-bit, that's the only difference. You can download the Netscape binary from ftp.netscape.com or use the one in slink, and in either case, you can upgrade to 128bit encryption using fortify.net's software. http://fortify.net is your friend. -- Ed C.
Re: Monitor Troubles.
Raymond A. Ingles wrote: On Fri, 11 Dec 1998, Anders wrote: I am not sure if this is the right place to ask this (probably not) but I am having a problem getting my monitor (A Sony Multiscan 200sf) to display in 1152 x 864 mode correctly...it is always too small to fit the screen and I cannot make it big enough in the horizontal axis [...] Try running bringing up X and running xvidtune. It lets you tweak parameters on the fly. Once you get it tuned to the monitor, write down the numbers and update the modeline in your XF86Config. Last time I did this, I am sure xvidtune updated xfconfig for me. -- Ed C.
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
Hi Kent, Before 3 month ago I ask me the equal question; I could not isdn get running under debian, and had no idea to figure out that problem. So I tried redhat 5.1 , I can't install it. the redhat crashed during installation 3 times. So I went back to Debian 2.0 (hamm) and began to stress the german list-members which ISDN-Questions. After a while, I've got them running. The easiest linux I ever used was suse after a installation of about 3-4 hours and feeling like a diskjockey (Cd1 cd2 cd 1 cd 3 cd1 cd2, etc,...) the system was configured with isdn, lan, printer, x and all needs I have, but I don't know why. After a period of 6 month I liked to use a new qt packages, however, it was at this time only as source vor suse available. !! It tooks me 4 DAYS to plug it in the system !! under debian the same package was installed after 15 minutes. I will say, if the installation is done, Debian is the finest linux I ever seen, clearly organized and easy to administrate. wish You Good Look and all the very best Peter
RE: 'Segmentation Fault' - how do i find out what thr problem is
Sorry if this is too basic . a segmentation fault (seg fault) is a UNIX app crashing. The most common cause is a pointer writing or reading an incorrect memory location. Possibly you are not compiling the bin correctly (leaving off a libray or a define). to find out why you can use gdb (gnu debugger). Compile the app with the -g compiler flag (both compilers will accept this). Then run it as: gdb app. At the gdb prompt type run and the app will run. If/when it dies type bt to get a back trace of the calls to see where it seg'ed. You can also run the app via strace or ltrace which will print each syscall the app makes until it dies. another good start is to run: ldd app. This will output all the libraries your app needs. If you notice any of them listed incorrectly this could be a problem. Need more help? Just ask.
RE: X Windows
Which X Windows package would you suggest I load and install ? Are there any special drivers I should load? Beyond the standard X (x-base, fonts) tseng labs cards either run on the svga or the w32 server. Most use the svga, a few benefit from the w32.
Netscape Downloading resuming
Hey, You can resume downloads in Netscape? How do you enable that? Whenever I have to cancel a download, Netscape deletes the partially downloaded file. Thanks. Jeff __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
transparent xlterm?
Along the same lines, can anyone tell what those semi-transparent xterm - like windows in the Gnome screenshots are? Thanks, John ---Matt Garman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know if there exists a transparent version of xload? I've got a nice root background for X, but I I also want xload stuck on my desk. I was thinking it would be nice to have a type of xload that maybe only draws an outline of its window on my desktop, and have only the actual usage graph opaque (i.e. regions not filled in by the peaks and valleys are transparent). Is there such a utility? Thanks! Matt -- Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] They're always havin' a good time down on the bayou, Lord, them delta women think the world of me. -- Dickey Betts, Ramblin' Man -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null == - John Storey Pause! - Useful Knowledge Management email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Install on Adaptec 7890?
Maybe if you put the CDROM on the other SCSI port and the hard drive on the other one, it might work? I dont know if Linux boots from a CD like windoze systems can, and so forth, or like a Mac system can, it boots from a CD even without a hard drive, it might be worth a try.. It might be seeing the CDROM and not checking for a hard drive and not booting the CD since Windoze usually has to load Windoze first, then boot a CD up... Tapio Lehtonen wrote: Problem: Dell Precision 410 has two SCSI adapters on the motherboard, Adaptec 7880 with CD-ROM connected and Adaptec 7890 with the hard drive. Now installing Debian 2.0 fails. It sees the CD-ROM but not the hard drive. It seems this is because the Debian 2.0 Rescue disk has kernel 2.0.34, and this kernel does not support Adaptec 7890. I looked at 2.0.36 kernel, which seems to have this support. I compiled a new kernel with 2.0.36 sources, and got boot-floppies Debian package, but have not figured out how to get this new kernel on a Rescue Disk. Does some kind soul already have a Rescue disk with support for Adapted 7890? Or can someone give me some advice on making the disk. -- Tapio Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
KTB wrote: Hi, thanks to all the people who have offered advice with configuring X-windows. I have not been successful and am brain dead at this point. I also tried hooking up to the internet with the same result. I chose the debian release because I wanted to learn more about computers (I have only used a pc off and on for the past year) and I like the philosophy behind Debian. I am wondering if Debian is just too difficult for me at this point. I am wondering if maybe I should try Red Hat, I have heard it is easier to install, and then come back to Debian. Does this sound like a logical progression to anyone? I don't have experience with either one so I just don't know the best course to take. Thanks, Kent Debian, to a newcomer with no prior experience with Unix, is hard to setup. However, so is RedHat, SuSe and the others. Unix began life as a multi-user OS running on mainframes at universities where there was an expert person, the System Administrator, who would take care of installing and configuring the system's software. You, and many others in the past, are trying to learn, in effect, how to be a SysAdmin from the very beginning, cold turkey. When I started out, it took me almost 2 weeks of tinkering just to figure out how to get the $#%#!?$ Backspace key to work! 8-) That has been solved I belive since then, but you understand my point. About ppp: PPP setup is easier than it was, now that we have the pppconfig package. When I installed Deb 2.0, pppconfig worked as advertised, but for all sorts of reasons it doesn't work for everybody, as apparently in your case. X11 is a beast, pure and simple. It usually comes down to your video card. If you a 'good' video card, i.e. its one that X11 fully supports, then getting X11 up and running is not too hard, although it will take some Read-The-Fine-Manuals in any case. With a 'bad' card you can easily end up pulling your hair out. My last video card was one of these. It wouldn't even run under the VGA16 server. I had to get a better card, one which I knew was supported by X11. BTW, RedHat's install procedure uses the VGA16 server to quickly get to a GUI installation, but if your card can't be run by VGA16, then your in real trouble with RedHat. RH has a pretty looking install procedure, but I, like the other respondent, don't equate 'pretty' with 'easy'. You end up needing to invest quite a bit of time in the beginning to get used to Linux (or any other Unix for that matter), but for most of us the investment is worth it, and yes, this is an excellent way to learn about computers and the different OSs available, and the different philosophies of OS design. If you get frustrated, dual boot back to Win, play a game, kill a few demons in Quake, and then take a swing at Linux again. :-) When you post questions to this list, be sure to include all the info you have on the problem, especialy exact error messages. The more info you give, the more likely someone will be able to help. Be sure to check out the documentation in /usr/doc/. There are also HOWTOs that are probably on one of the CDs (assuming you ordered Debian on CDs), if not, search for the Linux Documentation Project on the net. The /usr/doc/ppp and /usr/doc/xbase include FAQs and READMEs that might help. I'll shut-up now. :-) -- Ed C.
Re: DNS problem
Ed Cogburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You can download the Netscape binary from ftp.netscape.com or use the one in slink, and in either case, you can upgrade to 128bit encryption using fortify.net's software. http://fortify.net is your friend. There are fortify packages in non-US. They work. I can get into my bank using the Debian netscape packages after I run fortify on the binaries. Even though I can legally download 128-bit from Netscape (I'm from Canada),using Fortify seems much more convenient. Cheers, - Jim
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
Hi, thanks to all the people who have offered advice with configuring X-windows. I have not been successful and am brain dead at this point. I also tried hooking up to the internet with the same result. I chose the debian release because I wanted to learn more about computers (I have only used a pc off and on for the past year) and I like the philosophy behind Debian. I am wondering if Debian is just too difficult for me at this point. I am wondering if maybe I should try Red Hat, I have heard it is easier to install, and then come back to Debian. Does this sound like a logical progression to anyone? I don't have experience with either one so I just don't know the best course to take. You could try RedHat first and then move to Debian later on. Perhaps some people would recommend this solution. Personally I suggest that you stick at Debian for a bit longer. It's not really all that hard once you get the hang of it. It just takes a little time to get the feel of things. The big advantage of Debian is that generally people on this list are very helpful. Sometimes the responses are slow, but more often than not you get lots of help. If you're feeling a bit brain dead, take a break and have another go tomorrow. How did you go with gpm? If I were you, I'd concentrate on getting that working first, then worry about X afterwards. Cheers, Mark. _/\___/~~\ /~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips /~~\_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_ /~~\__/~~\ __ They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them!
Re: COBOL
[Moved to debian-user; I don't see what this has to do with the development of Debian, as there is no proposal to package any COBOL code for Debian] On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 14:25:07 +1030, Computel Computing Services Pty Ltd wrote: Are you aware of any COBOL compilers that run, or have been tailored to run, under a Linux O/S. I'll summarise from answers given earlier on the debian-user list (i.e. ones which a simple search would have found) by Carl Fink and Curt Daugaard. - The comp.lang.cobol FAQ (http://www.faqs.org/faqs/computer-lang/cobol-faq/) addresses COBOL on Linux. - http://www.netsis.it/~asantini/cobcy/ - http://www.deskware.com/cobol/cobol.htm - http://www.ssc.com/lj/issue13/np13b.html - http://www.acucobol.com/ HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Install on Adaptec 7890?
On Wed, 16 Dec 1998 05:56:01 +0200, Tapio Lehtonen wrote: Problem: Dell Precision 410 has two SCSI adapters on the motherboard, Adaptec 7880 with CD-ROM connected and Adaptec 7890 with the hard drive. Now installing Debian 2.0 fails. It sees the CD-ROM but not the hard drive. It seems this is because the Debian 2.0 Rescue disk has kernel 2.0.34, and this kernel does not support Adaptec 7890. I looked at 2.0.36 kernel, which seems to have this support. I compiled a new kernel with 2.0.36 sources, and got boot-floppies Debian package, but have not figured out how to get this new kernel on a Rescue Disk. Does some kind soul already have a Rescue disk with support for Adapted 7890? Or can someone give me some advice on making the disk. I don't know about the boot-floppies route. I read the docs, but that seemed more geared towards a distirbution release than an individual disk. However, I did successfully replace the kernel on a bootdisk yesterday, so maybe my experience can benefit you. It was actually quite simple. What I did was to select the kernel options good ol' Bruce listed in the readme on the rescue disk statically (initrd, ramdisk, loop, msdos, fat, minix, elf, ext2fs, procfs). Then I added major categories of features statically (scsi), with individual options in those categories (ai7xxx) as modules. I also used cpu type 386 to reduce the size of the kernel somewhat, although that is probably overkill. Categories which I didn't need, like isdn or ethernet, I excluded to save space, again probably overkill. Then I modified the Makefile as follows before compiling: ROOT_DEV = /dev/ramdisk RAMDISK = -DRAMDISK=1440 Then I did a make dep, make clean, and finally a make bzImage. Finally, I copied /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36/arch/i386/boot/bzImage to /floppy/vmlinuz (assuming you have the rescue disk mounted on /floppy). That's it. If you have any problems let me know and I'll make you a boot disk image. -- David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE:RE: switch off Debian
Good Morning everybody !!! I'd like to thank you for your quick and good help. It seems I need some basic instructions for working with Debian/Linux. Is there a good documentation / book for REAL greenhorns? (With basic syntax, commands and so on) Bye Michael, Trier, Germany __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Help! XFree86 and on-board video chip problems
A general HELP! to all. I am having a problem with XFree86 and its detection of my video card. I cannot find a solution in any of the normal references, so I thought I would put it out to the list. I am running an NEC P100 with 16M ram. Hda is FAT16 with Chicago (Windows94++) on it, hdb contains Debian 'hamm'. I boot Debian from a floppy. The video chipset is an Alliance ProMotion6422PCI, 1M video ram, 24bit internal RamDac, and a 6422 internal clock chip. The chipset is not mounted on a PCI card, but is mounted on the NEC mainboard (as is the SB Pro II sound 'card'). The monitor is a 1024x768 SVGA multisync. The problem: I can download the necessary XF86 .debs and the VGA server and XF86 will run fvwm95 perfectly in VGA mode. If I download and install the SVGA server, and configure it for the Alliance Promotion chipset (which is supposedly supported by the SVGA server)-- crash. The windows session either aborts or freezes dead. After an abort, the bash screen contains many lines -- mode 1024x768 not supported, ignoring. mode 800x600 not supported, ignoring (or something close to this) and so on for all the video resolutions. When 320x200 isn't supported, you know there's a problem!! This happens if I let the XF86 Setup programme autodetect the chipset, or when I set the RamDac and all the other settings manually. Using Johnson and Reichard's 'Unix Sys Admin Guide to X' I was even brave enough to edit the Xconfig settings by hand with no improvement. The SVGA server will not even run resolutions (like 640x480) that the VGA server has no problems with. Strangely, if I probe the video chipset it returns the correct information. I cannot figure out why the SVGA server cannot drive a supported chipset. I have downloaded the SVGA .deb three times all with the same results, so I do not believe it is a corrupted file. One of the many places I was looking for information (cannot remember which one now) said that there were sometimes discrepancies between how video cards handled certain operations and allocated memory, and how the exact same on-board video chipsets performed these same functions. Is this what is happening with my system? Is XF86 expecting a PCI Alliance Promotion chipset which behaves a certain way, and is instead finding something different? And the bigger question -- does anyone know what I can do to correct/ bypass/ fool the system and get the SVGA server up and running? 640x480 is okay for a while, but I really would like to have the same higher resolutions I have on the 'other' OS! Does anyone have an opinion about the new Scitech Display Doctor for Linux? The Dos/Win version has worked very well on this computer, and as the Linux version claims to use all the same PnP and autodetect protocols I am wondering if this is a simple solution to my headache. All Help Appreciated!! Frank Packer
Re: suEXEC and ~user/cgi-bin
Hello All, I just can't figure out how to get cgi's to work in the home directories. The log shows suEXEC is running and cgis work from /var/www/cgi-bin. In the home directory I have /home/user/public_html/cgi-bin. I'm using apache for the server. I've looked through the manuals and tried the list archives to no avail. Have you looked at /var/log/apache/cgi.log (is that where they're still kept?). This logs problems with suEXEC. Also, keep in mind that suEXEC is really skittish. The script and the *directory* that it's in must be owned by the user and group-owned by the user's primary group (although I've hacked mine to allow it to run scripts owned by root as well). Neither the directory nor the script can be world-writable. It can't be a symlink. It can't be setuid. You really need to look at cgi.log, however, to see what's got it so upset. - Joe
Linux Distributions in latest german news magazine FOCUS
Hi all, the latest german news magazine FOCUS has a short review of Linux mentioning the Halloween papers from Micro$oft. Below the article there was a small table mentioning Caldera, Debian, RedHat and SuSe. SuSe got an A while Debian only got a D. The article didn't mention any test methods or criteria. Sure, Debian is IMHO still a very technically oriented Distribution (and therefor perfectly suits my needs as a professional user) while SuSe is mostly used by Linux novices. Greetings, Steffen --- Please use [EMAIL PROTECTED] to reach the Xlink TechTeam ! Bitte benutzen Sie [EMAIL PROTECTED] um das Xlink Tech Team zu erreichen ! --- [X] Xlink Internet Consulting GmbH | | Steffen R. Mueller, Tech. Consultant Central Service | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Theodor-Heuss-Strasse 43 [X] D-51149 Koeln | Tel: 02203/97865-0 [X] Fax: 02203/97865-531 | | Geschaeftsfuehrer: Michael Rotert. Amtsgericht Koeln, HRB 3526. | Auftraege erledigen wir zu unseren Allgemeinen Geschaeftsbedingungen. -[ ]
Alpha PCI 64-275 Opinions
I'm looking for anyone who has a Digital Alpha PCI 64-275 machine who can give me their thoughts on it. Im thinking of getting one for LINUX and abandon my Motorola Macintosh Clone system... Hope to hear from someone soon, so I can order the board and chip, also if anyone knows what one of these is worth, NEW, the board and processor, please let me know, so I can tell if Im paying a good price for it..
Re: X-windows (ATI 3D Rage II)
At the X-Free86 web site they said to run X -showconfig I did and it said that I am using version 3.3.2.3 / window system (Protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300). The release date is July, 15 1998 it OK. I ran ls -a and didn't see any file for X. I tried dpkg --status XF86Config it said not installed and no info available. So I don't know if I am looking in the right spots or not but I can't find a XF86Config file to look at. I also don't know how to find the output of X. I know this isn't much but it's all I can muster at the moment. XF86Config is a (text) file for your X configuration. It's at: /etc/X11/XF86Config - copy that file into a mail and post it. At a command prompt (without X already running) type (exactly): X xerrors.txt 21 and press enter. When that's finished, you should have a file in your current working directory called xerrors.txt. Mail that to. That'll tell us what X is getting from your configuration file, and what it's 'auto probing' for itself. Make sure you read: http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/LDP/gs/node7.html#SECTION0070 This explains all about XF86Config and other stuff that you need to know about before trying to get X running. Martin __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Running seperate eth0 ppp0 networks
Lee Bradshaw wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 1998 at 03:29:49PM +, Ian Stuart wrote: I'm trying to set up my machine to use two networks: I occasionally access an ISP (who requires that all non-web access is done only through their modem-banks) on my workstation which is connected to my academic LAN. what I wish to do is set up my PPP connection so that (when it is up) all requests for the ISPs network is routed via ppp0, whilst all other traffic is routed via eth0 how? (Assume that my academic lan is the class B 129.1 and my ISP is the class B 130.2) Try something like: route add -net 130.2.0.0 dev ppp0 This will limit your access to just the 130.2.0.0 network over ppp. Do route add -net [your local net address] dev eth0 and use the default route option for ppp to get to everything on the internet. I ran this way for some time and it worked fine for access to either route. John C. Ellingboe Your default route should stay on your ethernet. I think there are ip.up and ip.down scripts that are executed automatically by ppp. Add the above line to ip.up and a similar line with delete instead of add to ip.down. Untested. I'm not using ppp. -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Alantro Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: 'Segmentation Fault' - how do i find out what thr problem is?
Hi, Excuse the vague problem definiton, but on a variety of programs I've compiled (but not written...), when i try to run the resulting program I just get a 'Segmentation Fault' immediately. Any clues either as to what causes this, or how to find out what does/doesn't (-for elimination purposes...) cause it? If a program generates a segmentation fault, it tries to access memory that doesn't belong to its allocated address space. Typical examples are overrunning arrays (declare an array of 10 elements, and try to access the 11th element) and using uninitalized pointers (like char *s; strcpy(s, disaster); } Somtimes segmentation faults are indicative of bad memory chips. If you can do a few kernel compiles without them, this is probably not the case. A couple of test progs. I wrote ran fine. One of the programs that seg faults here at work doesn't at home. This is also typical for segmentation fault type of errors. They do not always occur, even though the bug that causes them is there. Another nasty property is that the segmentation fault often appears much later than the offending statement. The offending statement screws up the memory, which then causes trouble later on in the program, although there is no bug at that place. Of the seg faulting programs, one is compiled with g++ (the standard one in hamm) and the other with g77 (again, the vesion that's in hamm). I think you have some debugging ahead :) For the g++ program it can be useful to install the electric fence library, read `man efence', and link with `-umalloc -lefence'. HTH, Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
Re: New/old kernel devices disappearing?
Ralf G. R. Bergs wrote: On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 17:16:04 +0100 (CET), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that can be fixing with lilo if you put it its configuration file append=mem=128Mo No French spoken here. :-) Make that append=mem=128M Thanks, guys, but: a) Not using LILO b) I found the reference that says that is an unadvised procedure when I was first reading about the problem: http://www.debian.org/fom/147.html This may be true, I never heard of it before. I do know that this `append=' approach has been working OK on several machines for me. I think it also has been the only way to do it for a long time. Any suggestions why a kernel recompile would just lose everything, when I use 'make xconfig'? If I recall correctly, you were talking about two different kernel versions. The kernel configuration is in /usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.xx/.config if you installed the debian kernel-source packages. If you first configured kernel 2.0.35, you can transfer the configuration to 2.0.36 if you tell the `make xconfig' program to read the configuration from ../kernel-source-2.0.35. If you don't, you will get the default settings for the 2.0.36 kernel. HTH, Eric -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054
Re: Package install problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 15-Dec-98, Lyndon Fletcher took time to write : Hi all, I have a number of small problems getting Debian packages onto my PC. Ok, for a start the machine has an unrecognised CDROM type and the OSes don't recognize it ? or you don't recognize it ? you should at least know if it's an ide one, a scsi one, or one hooked up a sound card. so what it is ? It is an ATA (NOT ATAPI) style CDROM drive with a proprietary interface. This is not one of the proprietary drives that Linux supports, therefore I can't use it. second it has a limited HD size (~360Mb). I can't do anything about either of these problems at the moment and would like some advice for working around my problems. I managed to install by leaving a small 30MB dos partition on the machine and copying the base distribution and install files into it via from where did you do your copy ? the cd ? then if the dos sees the cdrom, linux should see it also ! Not nescessarily. Unless Debian can run 16bit DOS driver code there is to way to access the CDROM without a Debian driver and there ain't one. DOS. This allowed me to get the basic system loaded. My problem is how to load the rest of the packages. I have a couple of ideas and would like to know the answers to a few specific questions. 1) Idea 1 I could copy a few packages at a time onto the 30Mb Dos drive and install from there. Question 1 --- To run dselect do I only need the .deb files or do I need the packages files too? yes you need the packages files, otherwise dslect won't know anything about what is present and what it is. Question 2 --- If I do need the packages file do I have to edit it to reflect the actual path to the .deb files? manual edition ? strongly discouraged ! ... Hope that you can send me some answers... I've been pulling my hair out over this all week. i think what you could be easier for you is just to unplug the cdrom drive from the win95 and to plug it in your machine. why aren't you doing this ? it's simpler ! Because... the Win95 machine is a laptop and consequently I would have to tear that machine apart to get at the CDROM. There is method to this madness... I am not a newbie to computers of even to Unix just a newbie to the way Debian works. Fletch Patrick
cron/syslog
My cron daemon likes to identify itself in the syslog as /USR/SBIN/CRON uppercase no less. Why not plain 'cron'? bekj -- : --Hacker-Neophile-Eclectic-Geek-Grrl-Queer-Disabled-Boychick-- : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tertius.net.au/~gossamer/ : In case you haven't heard, the Internet is not a superhighway. : -- Bill Washburn, Internet World
SOLVED: Quake 2 3dfx mouse problem
On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Vincent Murphy wrote: When I play Quake 2 using 3dfxgl.so, it won't let me use the mouse. The other modes do. Killing gpm with `gpm -k' did the trick. -- Vincent Murphy | UCC CompSci Student | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (086) 8397405 NT = Not Today
xbuffy question
Hi, I am using fvwm. I want to configure xbuffy so that it won't display meuns, maximize minimize buttons..(i.e, just like what xbiff does..) Thx Shao.
Re: New/old kernel devices disappearing?
On 15-Dec-98, Peter (Troff) Petroff took time to write : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by the way you can install lilo on a diskette and boot with it. Erm... why would I want to do that? I use the bootdisk if I want Linux, just to use the append=mem=128M thingy. otherwise I leave it out and descend into the horror of the Winborg collective. I would have thought a boot manager on a removable floppy was redundant; is there some benefit I'm not seeing? changing some parameters at each new boot can be handy sometimes but i agree it's a minor point. Under 2.0.36, I have the full 128MB RAM. But: - I lose the NE2000 I had before. why ? i don't see why ! I don't either. Therein doth lay the kernel of the problem (ha ha). but you should provide more detailed errors of problems ! is it detected at boot ? what does ifconfig says ? what have you in /proc/interrupts ? etc... did you define the exact same options when compiling 2.0.34 and 2.0.36 ? - And I lose PPP too!! what do you mean by that ? I mean that: I 'pon office', the dial goes out, modems handshake, carrier is detected and established. Under 2.0.34, everything works fine. Under 2.0.36, I have a) no functionality and b) 'ifconfig' reports no ppp interface. Oh, an no eth0 interface either, just one lo interface. ok but still you have to give more details what do you have in ppp logs ? (/var/log/ppp.log) and after pon you could type plog -f to see all logs as they are coming during your connection please send at least the last few lines, so that we may find. i'm not a ppp expert, but without the exact error message, i think nobody will find IMHO, magicfilter is the way to go install it, and with a set of questions everything should be ok. I'm pretty sure I installed it; what are these questions of which you speak? did you do magicfilterconfig ? (from memory) it should you ask which type of printer you have and if you have one recognized it set up all filters and you're ready to print. you need of course to install either lprng or lpr. Would there be a complete-and-total-idiot-god-i-hate-myself step-by-step guide to magicfilter anywhere? probably /usr/doc/magicfilter/* and man magicfilter man magicfilterconfig Apache... failed again. No repeat NO significant changes in configuration ^^^ does that mean no modifications at all or modifications you think are not signigicant? Because that makes a lot of differences ! No changes to apache.conf whatsoever, no 'apacheconfig', no manual edits, absolutely ZERO interference. ok ok i just asked because i had the problems many times. but in all cases, see /var/log/apache/error.log you should have something helping you to find what's wrong. I just honestly can't see how any of the above changes could affect Apache. none probably. At this rate, I'm going to have to uninstall and reinstall it, while juggling dselect's dependencies. in the long term i think it would be better for you to try to resolve the problem rather than installing/desinstalling and German). Thank you very much for the hints. no problem. give us more details of your problems (extract of log files, etc...) and that would help everyone helping you. Patrick
Package for transfering data via printer cable
Hi all, I have two debian box. But I don't have network. Is there any package that will allow me to use the parallel port to transfer the data using the normal printer cables?? Thx Shao.
Re: Package for transfering data via printer cable
On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 22:20:09 +1100, Shao Zhang wrote: I have two debian box. But I don't have network. Is there any package that will allow me to use the parallel port to transfer the data using the normal printer cables?? Check out http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/HOWTO/mini/PLIP.html You'll need a special null printer cable though. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
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about a new agp graphics card
I have an agp raptor i740 (intel chip) graphics card. When I tray to configure Xbase using xf86config program I encounter following problems; 1.The name of my graphics card is not in the list of supported graphics card. 2.When we try to use VGA16 or SVGA server, only 320x200 mode workes other modes are not recognized. I am wondering if debian version of linux 2.0 supports my graphics card. thanks Ibrahim
Re: Configuring modem and connecting to the net
Chui Tey writes: I am a new user to Linux. I have installed the Debian base system so far. Part of that involved setting up the Connection configs to connect to my ISP. Now, what packages do I require to set up my external modem... ppp and pppconfig, which you already have as they are in the base system. You ran pppconfig once already during the install, but you can run it again if you want to change anything. ...what is the command I execute to connect to the net. The command to connect is 'pon'. The command to disconnect is 'poff'. How do I assign the user (instead of the root) the right to dial up the connection? Do 'adduser user_name dip' to add user_name to the dip group and 'chmod g+x /etc/chatscripts' to correct a bug in the ppp package. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
KTB writes: I also tried hooking up to the internet with the same result. Did you run pppconfig? If so I would like to know what problems you had. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Install on Adaptec 7890?
TL == Tapio Lehtonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TL Does some kind soul already have a Rescue disk with support for TL Adapted 7890? Or can someone give me some advice on making the disk. http://www.debian.org/~adric/aic7xxx/ Ciao, Martin
Smail not delivering mail to local domain
Reply-To: Hi Recently I posted about smail being able to deliver mail via smtp to remote domains but not to users on my own domain unless they existed on the box smail was running on. Basically I wanted mail for these users to be delivered to the company mail server. Several people have offered solutions using smartuser or smartrelay but for once I have come up with a simple solution myself so incase anyone else has the same problem here it is. In /etc/smail/config as setup by debian there is a line like this hostnames=hostname.domain:domain eg hostname=workstation1.somecompany.com:somecompany.com change it to hostname=hostname.domain.com eg hostname=workstation1.somecompany.com Now it should work properly and hand off all mail for users not on workstation1 to whatever dns turns up as an mx record dor the domain. If anyone has any comments about any negative effects of this solution please mail me. Also I really think that this problem should be in a Debian FAQ (not necesarly with my solution - I am no mail expert) as it is a really common config. The solution using sendmail is in the sendmail FAQ and RedHats installation manual but its been a pain to sort with Smail as there seems to be very little documentation for Smail (possibly I just haven't found it yet) Pat
Re: about a new agp graphics card
Yes debian supprts this graphic card. See the debian archive for more info. You have to download the XBF_i740 Xserver from RedHat XBF projekt site. By krisah On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Ibrahim Turkyilmaz wrote: I have an agp raptor i740 (intel chip) graphics card. When I tray to configure Xbase using xf86config program I encounter following problems; 1.The name of my graphics card is not in the list of supported graphics card. 2.When we try to use VGA16 or SVGA server, only 320x200 mode workes other modes are not recognized. I am wondering if debian version of linux 2.0 supports my graphics card. thanks Ibrahim -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
strange modem behaviour
When using my modem by ppp, everything works fine, always. But when trying to dial with the following script (which I plan to use out of a database), it sometimes hangs at the stty command. I have a Laptop using a ClipperCom World V.34 PCMCIA Modem. Removing it and reinserting does not solve the problem. I am not sure if the ppp command shuts down the possibility to access it. With minicom I can talk to the modem even when the dial script here is not working anymore. It has nothing to do with blacklisting. Any hints? #!/bin/bash stty 115200 /dev/modem echo ATF0M3 /dev/modem echo ATDT $1 /dev/modem sleep 8 echo ATH /dev/modem in my /etc/chatscrips/provider: ABORTBUSY ABORTNO CARRIER ABORTVOICE ABORTNO DIALTONE ATF0%VM0 OK ATDT 0840 840 888 ogin T44 word \wonttell in my etc/ppp/peers/provider: noauth defaultroute /dev/modem 115200 -- http://www.fear.ch telnet://mud.fear.ch: finger://[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bülachstrasse 7a, 8057 Zürich, +41 1 313 07 87 (home)
Re: Re: Syslog message errors!
Quoting Nathan E Norman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Amanda Shuler wrote: : Hello all. : I have these messages being repeated over and over and over in my syslog, : every : 10 minutes. : What do they mean? : : Dec 15 06:42:26 snafu syslogd 1.3-3#26: restart. : Dec 15 06:51:27 snafu inetd[8525]: auth/tcp: bind: Address already in use : Dec 15 06:51:27 snafu inetd[8525]: finger/tcp: bind: Address already in : use : Dec 15 06:51:27 snafu inetd[8525]: pop-3/tcp: bind: Address already in use [snip] These messages are generated locally, so it's really not relevant whether there's another machine with the same address. What you're seeing here is inetd complaining that it can't bind to the ports. It's probable that there's another inetd process running already, since Address already in use is your error. Do a `ps awx' and look for one or more inetd processes. If there's more than one, kill them, do `/etc/init.d/netbase stop'; `/etc/init.d/netbase start'. Yes, I've had the odd *one* of these, usually http. But I've just ignored them. I think the first line of the log is relevant: I only ever get my one at the same time, which is just after the cron job rotates the logs at 0642. So perhaps it's worth looking carefully at what cron is doing. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Partition confusion
Hello, My drive 0 (hda) has three partitions. The first two are FAT32 Windoze and I have wiped, removed, and re-created the third with cfdisk. I selected 'Logical' as the type, through cfdisk, and it was assigned a Type of 83 (Linux). I can mount it and everything seems to be ok. My problem is this: I want to copy everything from my Linux drive (hdc) /usr directory to this new partition but when I do 'cp -r * /newpartition' I get error messages that report the drive type as UMSDOS. The files seem to copy, but it doesn't appear that I have the correct format on that partition. Is any of this making sense? My goal is to mount that partition as /usr to make use of the extra space, but I don't think I'm doing something right. Do I have to do something beside setup a partition with cfdisk? Thanks In Advance Jeff Miller
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
I am wondering if Debian is just too difficult for me at this point. I am wondering if maybe I should try Red Hat, I have heard it is easier to install, and then come back to Debian. Two years ago, Red Hat was certainly easier to install. Today, debian is much easier. Debian fixed its problems, and red had made no discernable difference (on the other hand, every time I have GNU/ Linux shoved in my face, I give FreeBSD another thought. Anyone know how to remove it? I can't find where it's coming from). Anyway, I found red hat to be more, rather than less, work to install, not to have packages I use, and to be more of a hassle to update. I also strongly disliked the way it wanted to default X to look like the dark side; I *prefer* a plain X to some colored backround with a lot of icons. ANyway, the easiest way I've found to install X is XF86Setup rather than xf86Setup make sure you have the vga16 server installed; that's where it lives. Make sure your default driver is correct (this offer is made while installing the package), and XF86Setup starts the vga server to give you menus such, so that you can just click on what you want (be sure to make the capslock a control key; it's immoral not to have one next to the A :) As for ppp . . . i can't help much there. I've needed massive help to get it goign myself, and what I have is so odd, that what i know is useulss for anyone else . . . rick --
Re: Partition confusion
Shouldn't you create an ext2 filesystem on that partition with mkfs ? george On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Jeff Miller wrote: Hello, My drive 0 (hda) has three partitions. The first two are FAT32 Windoze and I have wiped, removed, and re-created the third with cfdisk. I selected 'Logical' as the type, through cfdisk, and it was assigned a Type of 83 (Linux). I can mount it and everything seems to be ok. My problem is this: I want to copy everything from my Linux drive (hdc) /usr directory to this new partition but when I do 'cp -r * /newpartition' I get error messages that report the drive type as UMSDOS. The files seem to copy, but it doesn't appear that I have the correct format on that partition. Is any of this making sense? My goal is to mount that partition as /usr to make use of the extra space, but I don't think I'm doing something right. Do I have to do something beside setup a partition with cfdisk? Thanks In Advance Jeff Miller -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null --- George Kapetanios Churchill College Cambridge, CB3 0DSE-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] U.K. WWW: http://garfield.chu.cam.ac.uk/~gk205/work_info.html ---
Re: strange modem behaviour
Quoting Lukas Eppler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): When using my modem by ppp, everything works fine, always. But when trying to dial with the following script (which I plan to use out of a database), it sometimes hangs at the stty command. I have a Laptop using a ClipperCom World V.34 PCMCIA Modem. Removing it and reinserting does not solve the problem. I am not sure if the ppp command shuts down the possibility to access it. With minicom I can talk to the modem even when the dial script here is not working anymore. It has nothing to do with blacklisting. Any hints? #!/bin/bash stty 115200 /dev/modem [snip] I'm not familiar with pcmcia modems, but is /dev/modem a symlink to something else like /dev/ttyS1 ? If so, I'd remove it and edit your configuration files to use the real name of the device. Otherwise you may have problems with file-locking. Cheers, -- Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tel: +44 1908 653 739 Fax: +44 1908 655 151 Snail: David Wright, Earth Science Dept., Milton Keynes, England, MK7 6AA Disclaimer: These addresses are only for reaching me, and do not signify official stationery. Views expressed here are either my own or plagiarised.
Re: Configuring modem and connecting to the net
[EMAIL PROTECTED] dixit: How do I assign the user (instead of the root) the right to dial up the connection? Do 'adduser user_name dip' to add user_name to the dip group and 'chmod g+x /etc/chatscripts' to correct a bug in the ppp package. bug? which bug? Never did that and I'm not having any probs (AFAIK) with ppp. BTW, how can I give a normal user permission to use the smail/sendmail command? Thanks. -- Un saludo, Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
KTB dixit: Hi, thanks to all the people who have offered advice with configuring X-windows. I have not been successful and am brain dead at this point. Most (All?) of us have gone through that feeling at some point... and still keep going ever now and then. I also tried hooking up to the internet with the same result. I chose the debian release because I wanted to learn more about computers then stay tuned... and don't spare your time in asking around. have only used a pc off and on for the past year) and I like the philosophy behind Debian. I am wondering if Debian is just too difficult for me at this point. I am wondering if maybe I should try Red Hat, I have heard it is easier to install, and then come back to Debian. Does this sound like a logical progression to anyone? I don't have experience with either one so I just don't know the best course to take. Give it a try, send in your questions (try to be most specific when you do: eg. send logs with error messages,...), the worst that may happen to you is people telling you to read such or such document, and that will happen just the same in any RH list... so, in practice, same degree of difficulty, more learning with Debian. -- Un saludo, Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Graphics Card: S3 3D - compatible?
Hi, I'm looking at buying a new PC sometime soon - I've just seen a *very* good looking deal for a 350MHz Pentium II system. As usual, my main compatibility worries are with video and sound cards. The video card is described by the supplier as an AGP S3 3D card, with a 365 chipset. I've looked through the hardware compatibility HOWTO and the XFree86 website, and I can't see mention of this card or chipset specifically. Can anybody confirm that this card will work OK on Debian (basically Hamm at the moment...) I'll want to use X, and possibly OpenGL (Mesa). Probably not graphics intensive stuff generally, but I'd like to look at getting Quake and some other games running (it's not the end of the world if I fail, but I'd have to run them in DOS/Win95, so maybe it's bad enough... :-) Actually, does anybody know what this card is like, in general - is it 3D accelerated or not, do I need to check things like how much memory it has, will it run Quake II at mega-accelerated speeds, etc etc? If it's not up to much, does anybody have any suggestions as to a good card to get? I've been thinking of one of the ATI [EMAIL PROTECTED] cards - are they a good bet? The sound card is described as a SoundBlaster 16 Compatible, made by SoundPro. Again, will this be supported, and/or is it a good card? The only real use I have for sound is likely to be for games (both under Linux and Windows), so it's not a disaster if it's low spec, but I'd like something reasonable... I'm sure that there are some compromises being made in this system, but frankly, I'm not sure where they are. The deal is too good to just ignore, though... Any help (or pointers to useful sources of information) would be much appreciated. Thanks, Paul Moore.
??? how to TOTALLY remove KDE ???
Hey there everybody, After using KDE for a while, I've decided to ditch it and try Gnome... my question is - How do I remove it so that EVERYTHING is gone? This is my second attempt at running debian (had it running earlier this year with KDE... when I tried to remove KDE via dselect, it didn't remove a bunch of directories because they weren't empty or something) basically, I want no trace that it was ever there, and to start fresh with a pristine system.. Thanks in advance, Rich
XFree86 3.3.3
Hey there everybody, Is the package XBASE 3.3.2.3A-8.1 already an implementation of XFree86 3.3.3? If not, when do you think that xbase_3.3.3 will be released? Thank you, At\'e breve Pedro Quaresma de Almeida Departamento de Matem\'atica, Faculdade de Ci\^encias e Tecnologia Universidade de Coimbra P-3000 COIMBRA, PORTUGAL e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] url: http://www.mat.uc.pt/~pedro/ phone: 351 39 791170
Re: Running seperate eth0 ppp0 networks
On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 03:29:04AM -0600, John C. Ellingboe wrote: Lee Bradshaw wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 1998 at 03:29:49PM +, Ian Stuart wrote: what I wish to do is set up my PPP connection so that (when it is up) all requests for the ISPs network is routed via ppp0, whilst all other traffic is routed via eth0 (Assume that my academic lan is the class B 129.1 and my ISP is the class B 130.2) Try something like: route add -net 130.2.0.0 dev ppp0 This will limit your access to just the 130.2.0.0 network over ppp. That's what he wanted -- isp network over ppp0, everything else over eth0. I suspect your ppp0/eth0 setup is more common, but it's now what he needed. Do route add -net [your local net address] dev eth0 and use the default route option for ppp to get to everything on the internet. I ran this way for some time and it worked fine for access to either route. John C. Ellingboe -- Lee Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Alantro Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendmail
Hi! Since two month I'm using Debian Linux for a non-commercial www-server. Anyway I am not a Linux specialist, until I started using Debian Linux I just had experience with MS-Windows based PCs. I have a problem with sendmail. I just don't get it up and running. I asked my ISP to setup the sendmail script for me, but he told me, that he doesn't use Linux machines and only has sendmail scripts for Solaris. He said having a script writted would cost me about $ 1.000,-. Unfortunately I don't have that much money left to spend, as this server is just a hobby, and I don't earn any money with this server. So I'd like to know is there no place where I can obtain working sendmail scripts which I just have to copy and transfer to my server? Thanks for help. Benedikt Carda
Sendmail
Hi! Since two month I'm using Debian Linux for a non-commercial www-server. Anyway I am not a Linux specialist, until I started using Debian Linux I just had experience with MS-Windows based PCs. I have a problem with sendmail. I just don't get it up and running. I asked my ISP to setup the sendmail script for me, but he told me, that he doesn't use Linux machines and only has sendmail scripts for Solaris. He said having a script writted would cost me about $ 1.000,-. Unfortunately I don't have that much money left to spend, as this server is just a hobby, and I don't earn any money with this server. So I'd like to know is there no place where I can obtain working sendmail scripts which I just have to copy and transfer to my server? Thanks for help. Benedikt Carda
Slink CD image
Where do I get ahold of the slink CD image? I'd like to be able to burn one or 2 of them, but can't find the image file that others have referred to. Thanks == Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Support Specialist http://brian.greenville.edu IBM Mobile Systems Specialist 618-664-2800 ext. 4241 Information Technology 618-338-4963 pager Greenville College, IL ICQ: 13798434 1 ... 2 ... 5! --King Arthur
Re: ??? how to TOTALLY remove KDE ???
One of the nice things about Debian/Linux as opposed to -other- operating systems is that software doesn't tend to fight with other applications. So, since you seem to still be in window- manager-browsing mode, I'd leave KDE installed, especially if space isn't an issue. Currently I have KDE, Gnome, Enlightenment, Afterstep, and Windowmaker all installed on my Linux machine, as I wanted to try out each one. So far I like Windowmaker the best out of the bunch. Sean At 12/16/98 8:39:00 AM, you wrote: Hey there everybody, After using KDE for a while, I've decided to ditch it and try Gnome... my question is - How do I remove it so that EVERYTHING is gone? This is my second attempt at running debian (had it running earlier this year with KDE... when I tried to remove KDE via dselect, it didn't remove a bunch of directories because they weren't empty or something) basically, I want no trace that it was ever there, and to start fresh with a pristine system.. Thanks in advance, Rich -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Samba
Hi, First, thanks to everyone who answered my query about remote printing. One problem solved. Can anyone tell me about using the smbclient part of samba to access a WinNT network: 1) Would smbclient run under Debian 2.0? 2) Does it cost? Thanks, Mark
Re: Sendmail
On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 15:56:55 +, Benedikt Carda Digiweb Austria wrote: I have a problem with sendmail. I just don't get it up and running. I asked my ISP to setup the sendmail script for me, but he told me, that he doesn't use Linux machines and only has sendmail scripts for Solaris. He said having a script writted would cost me about $ 1.000,-. Have you tried using the sendmailconfig included in the Debian sendmail package? It generates configuration files for several very common situations. Another option could be to use a different Mail Transfer Agent (MTA). While sendmail is used very often and is quite powerful, it is also notoriously difficult to configure. Most (all?) of the other Debian MTA packages (e.g. exim, smail) have a similar script and have configuration files that are usually considered easier to write or change. Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: Samba
On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 15:15:52 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me about using the smbclient part of samba to access a WinNT network: 1) Would smbclient run under Debian 2.0? smbclient is part of the samba package in Debian 2.0 . 2) Does it cost? The samba package is GPL-ed. HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: xbuffy question
Shao Zhang wrote: Hi, I am using fvwm. I want to configure xbuffy so that it won't display meuns, maximize minimize buttons..(i.e, just like what xbiff does..) Add somethig like this to your rc file: Style xbuffy NoTitle, WindowListSkip, BorderWidth 0 -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada. 418-775-0852 FAX: 775-0546 6623'rd GNU/Linux user at the Counter - http://counter.li.org/
Problem with Compuserve and Fetchmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I am trying to use fetchmail to receive mail from Compuserve. Everything works fine except that sometimes, when I get a mail from the Compuserve Postmaster with an Sender of @ or even , because there is no domain, fetchmail refuses to get any further mail. This blocks the whole mail transfer and I have to get the mail manually via some mail client. Is there a way to get fetchmail reading beyond those unqualified mails ? Do I have to use another program ? Which one ? Does anybody know? Thanks in advance Dieter -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 5.5.5 iQCVAwUBNnfAmHUAxaESJjTJAQGxoQP+IuepxnZIDKK8/AZ3ac9hmF3t6y0M5ebu DUfhmlqOPGM/ViZMZiAncveeBBLMeIFP7hcjEKbrdsz7sArykmKbxMhVGZw8zeIe qLi9DxNDlrzirq6DW3d/2dMgHK8XfH4iS1UjPVStIPSbiln9nWfYGIWo5rtHRSN2 FX+AT6+Zvio= =wE/a -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: DNS problem
On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Damon Buckwalter wrote: [ snip ] : Why not just install the netscape packages? They're in potato, and : slink too I belive. The Export Version of Netscape contains only : 40-bit encryption, instead of 128-bit, that's the only difference. ... and Fortify patches most any 40-bit version to 128-bit just fine. -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: Netscape Downloading resuming
On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Jeff Browning wrote: Hey, You can resume downloads in Netscape? How do you enable that? Whenever I have to cancel a download, Netscape deletes the partially downloaded file. Thanks. I haven't quite figured out when it works. (It may only work for FTP downloads, for example) but it just seems to work. Haven't needed it in a while because my school just added another T1 line :) Peter --- Peter D. Kovacs UIN: 241701 Operator, Perl Programmer, Computer Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.egr.uri.edu/~kovacsp/ http://kovax.ml.org/~kovacsp/pubkey.txt
Help!!!!!! Package install problems!!!
Hi, I'm reposting this message with a few clarifications in the hope that someone will answer my questions. I was recently lent an old 486 PC by a friend so that I could do some Web server development. The machine is not mine and not readily upgradable so I HAVE to work with what I have. First limitation is that the machine only has ~360Mb of hard disk space, limitation number 2 is that the machine has an old CDROM drive with an ISA based proprietary controller card. This card is NOT supported by Linux, though I have a DOS boot disc with the nescessary drivers for DOS. I also have Cheapbytes version of the Debian 2.0 CD. OK. Now I cann't load Debian directly off of the CD because the CDROM drive is not supported. So I got base installed on the machine by creating a 30MB Dos partition and copying the basic installation files on to it from DOS. Install went OK up to the point where I need to install packages, then the lack of the CD (and space on the HD for temporary storage) became a problem. I need parts of about 8 or 9 packages some of which will involve loading up to 80MB at a time in temporary storage if I can't use the CD as source. My problem is how to load the rest of the packages. I have a couple of ideas and would like to know the answers to a few specific questions. 1) Idea 1 I could copy a few packages at a time onto the 30Mb Dos drive and install from there. Question 1 --- To run dselect do I only need the .deb files or do I need the packages files too? Question 2 --- If I do need the packages file do I have to edit it to reflect the actual path to the .deb files? If not how do you deal with loading packages from paths different from those in the package file? Question 3 --- What constitutes a package? I have several directories called things like net do I copy the whole directory or just the .deb files I seem to need? Idea 2 I also have a laptop PC with a working CDROM (running win95) on which I've installed an FTPD for win95. Question 4 --- when I try to use this machine as an FTP source, Dselect seems to expect a specific layout dist/stable/main et al Unfortunately my CD has the form d:/debian/hamm/hamm... How can I change this so that Dselect can read fron the remote drive? Question 5 --- the packages file has the paths to the files listed as dist/stable/main etc. However, the layout of my CD is D:/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/... would I need a new packages file with the paths corrected? Question 6 --- is it possible to use a packages file in a different path from where the .deb files are stored? Hope that you can send me some answers... I've been pulling my hair out over this all week. Thanks Fletch
Re: cron/syslog
Gossamer writes: My cron daemon likes to identify itself in the syslog as /USR/SBIN/CRON uppercase no less. Why not plain 'cron'? Cron spawns children to do the actual work. The children upcase themselves so that they can be distinguished from the parent. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address.
Re: Install on Adaptec 7890?
On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, David Stern wrote: [ snip ] : What I did was to select the kernel options good ol' Bruce listed in : the readme on the rescue disk statically (initrd, ramdisk, loop, msdos, : fat, minix, elf, ext2fs, procfs). Then I added major categories of : features statically (scsi), with individual options in those categories : (ai7xxx) as modules. I also used cpu type 386 to reduce the size of : the kernel somewhat, although that is probably overkill. Categories : which I didn't need, like isdn or ethernet, I excluded to save space, : again probably overkill. : : Then I modified the Makefile as follows before compiling: : : ROOT_DEV = /dev/ramdisk : : RAMDISK = -DRAMDISK=1440 There's a file on the rescue disk (rdev.sh?) that contains the rdev commands you need to run on your new kernel image once you've finished compiling. No need to edit the Makefile. I generally apply the rdev commands my new kernel, then I ftp the kernel over and copy it to the rescue disk from an NT command prompt - my desktop at work is NT, the linux server(s) are in another room and are physically secured so using the floppy is a pain. Works for me, -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet 410 South Phillips Avenue Sioux Falls, SD mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP Key: (0xA33B86E9)
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
Wed, 16 Dec skrev Richard E. Hawkins Esq.: As for ppp . . . i can't help much there. I've needed massive help to get it goign myself, and what I have is so odd, that what i know is useulss for anyone else . . . I have lost the original message, but anyway, if you have problem with ppp, give the wvdial package a try. ( main/comm/wvdial_1.20.deb ). It's great, at least for me! -- Åsmund Ødegård http://www.ifi.uio.no/~aasmundo/sider/main.html
Re: Debian Japan and updates
From: Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Debian Japan and updates Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:58:40 -0200 Hi Debian users, recently I download XFree86 3.3.3 from Debian Japan project. I'm asking if is safe to install these packages? We hope it's safe to install, but XFree86 3.3.3 is still in unstable branch in debian-jp, so it's not yet much tested. What about put a line in /etc/apt/sources.list to point to Debian Japan? You can use deb ftp://ftp.debian.or.jp/debian-jp stable-jp main contrib non-free or deb http://www.debian.or.jp/debian-jp stable-jp main contrib non-free Note that in stable-jp, there is the package with the same name of the Debian hamm, IIRC libc6 with wcsmbs, man-db and so on, so be careful to add stable-jp to your apt list. Of course, you may replace stable-jp with frozen-jp (== slink-jp for slink) or unstable-jp (== potato-jp for potato), and AFAIK frozen-jp and/or unstable-jp does not contain the package with the same name of the Debian slink and/or potato, so there is any problem like stable-jp, I think. We've plan to release slink-jp, that is, change slink-jp from frozen-jp to stable-jp, within atmost 1 month after slink is released. Regards, Fumitoshi UKAI / Debian JP Project
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
Richard E. Hawkins Esq. writes: ...on the other hand, every time I have GNU/ Linux shoved in my face, I give FreeBSD another thought. Anyone know how to remove it? I can't find where it's coming from /etc/motd, of course. You can put what ever you want there. What's so offensive about GNU/Linux? -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
printing from netscape
How do you print to a remote printer from netscape? When I click on the print button, I get a screen with the print command defaulting to lpd. Is there some other place I need to specify which printer in my printcap I want to print to? I've got my printcap setup with a couple of different printers, named by their host name. If I just click PRINT when taking the defaults, it gives me an error: lpd: Fatal error - another print spooler is using TCP printer port, possibly lpd process '139' Any suggestions? == Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Support Specialist http://brian.greenville.edu IBM Mobile Systems Specialist 618-664-2800 ext. 4241 Information Technology 618-338-4963 pager Greenville College, IL ICQ: 13798434 1 ... 2 ... 5! --King Arthur
I can't connect to my computer
i installed a hamm system (Scientific Workstation) and can't connect to it. Neither ping, telnet nor smtp or something else works. It's like there is no network installed. But it is, I, sitting at the computer, can connect to any other machine, I can browse the web, send email or do other stuff that sends something back to the machine. Can anybody tell me what's going on here? The hostname is kik.informatik.fh-dortmund.de. Feel free to scan it or whatever might lead to an answer. At first I thought about hosts.deny and hosts.allow, but they look innocent: $ cat /etc/hosts.allow # /etc/hosts.allow: list of hosts that are allowed to access the system. # See the manual pages hosts_access(5), hosts_options(5) # and /usr/doc/netbase/portmapper.txt.gz # # Example:ALL: LOCAL @some_netgroup # ALL: .foobar.edu EXCEPT terminalserver.foobar.edu # # If you're going to protect the portmapper use the name portmap for the # daemon name. Remember that you can only use the keyword ALL and IP # addresses (NOT host or domain names) for the portmapper. See portmap(8) # and /usr/doc/netbase/portmapper.txt.gz for further information. # ALL: ALL $ cat /etc/hosts.deny # /etc/hosts.deny: list of hosts that are _not_ allowed to access the system. # See the manual pages hosts_access(5), hosts_options(5) # and /usr/doc/netbase/portmapper.txt.gz # # Example:ALL: some.host.name, .some.domain # ALL EXCEPT in.fingerd: other.host.name, .other.domain # # If you're going to protect the portmapper use the name portmap for the # daemon name. Remember that you can only use the keyword ALL and IP # addresses (NOT host or domain names) for the portmapper. See portmap(8) # and /usr/doc/netbase/portmapper.txt.gz for further information. # # The PARANOID wildcard matches any host whose name does not match its # address. ALL: PARANOID Then I thought maybe there's a firewall installed. But the only references to ipfwadm I could find in the startup files are for preventing IP spoofed connections. Here's my inetd.conf, maybe it defaults to something weird which I don't recognize: $ cat /etc/inetd.conf # /etc/inetd.conf: see inetd(8) for further informations. # # Internet server configuration database # # # Lines starting with #:LABEL: or #off# should not # be changed unless you know what you are doing! # # If you want to disable an entry so it isn't touched during # package updates just comment it out with a single '#' character. # # Packages should modify this file by using update-inetd(8) # # service_name sock_type proto flags user server_path args # #:INTERNAL: Internal services #echo stream tcp nowait rootinternal #echo dgram udp waitrootinternal #chargenstream tcp nowait rootinternal #chargendgram udp waitrootinternal discard stream tcp nowait rootinternal discard dgram udp waitrootinternal daytime stream tcp nowait rootinternal daytime dgram udp waitrootinternal timestream tcp nowait rootinternal timedgram udp waitrootinternal #:STANDARD: These are standard services. ftp stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.ftpd telnet stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.telnetd #:BSD: Shell, login, exec and talk are BSD protocols. shell stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.rshd login stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.rlogind execstream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.rexecd ntalk dgram udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.ntalkd talkdgram udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.talkd #:MAIL: Mail, news and uucp services. #:INFO: Info services finger stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.fingerd ident stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/identdidentd -i #:BOOT: Tftp service is provided primarily for booting. Most sites # run this only on machines acting as boot servers. #tftp dgram udp waitnobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /boot #bootps dgram udp waitroot/usr/sbin/bootpdbootpd -i -t 120 #:RPC: RPC based services #mountd/1 dgram rpc/udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd #rstatd/1-3 dgram rpc/udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/rpc.rstatd #rusersd/2-3dgram rpc/udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/rpc.rusersd #walld/1dgram rpc/udp waitroot/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/rpc.rwalld #:HAM-RADIO: amateur-radio services #:OTHER: Other services saftstream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/sendfiled
Re: DNS problem
On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Damon Buckwalter wrote: Shao Zhang wrote: Hi all, when I download netscape, I got the following error from Netscape 4.5: Bad Domain DNS NAME: Host Name: november.uws.EDU.AU IP Address: 137.154.230.60 Your DNS name probably won't be accepted. Click here for more info. I clicked more info and get the following: General We could not verify your domain as not known to be foreign, or your domain could not be resolved by reverse DNS. You're trying to download the _US_ version of Netscape from Australia, and Big Brother, I mean, Uncle Sam, says that's a no-no. It'a not quite that bad. You can import hard-encrypted software, but not export it. Maybe Austalia has some rules here of its own, however. You cannot download this software unless your network connection does reverse DNS, and your domain is not known to be foreign. You may need to contact your system administrator. You can get the Export Version if one exists. Why not just install the netscape packages? They're in potato, and slink too I belive. The Export Version of Netscape contains only 40-bit encryption, instead of 128-bit, that's the only difference. You can convert it to 128-bit using Fortify. I think there is a package for this on non-us, or you can get it from www.fortify.net. Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
RE:RE: switch off Debian
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Michael Wahl wrote: I'd like to thank you for your quick and good help. It seems I need some basic instructions for working with Debian/Linux. Is there a good documentation / book for REAL greenhorns? (With basic syntax, commands and so on) You could try Linux for Dummies. It should be available at a local bookstore or you could order it from something like amazon.com. I'm not sure of any online resources. I've been using this stuff for so long that I don't remember learning any of it! noah PGP public key available at http://lynx.dac.neu.edu/home/httpd/n/nmeyerha/mail.html or by 'finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED]' -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBNnfc9YdCcpBjGWoFAQFX0QP/bo+QqkX+b5nuHbSajrEAJAiDgoy9bo8r R4jghMUorHixmwMjYve66OIY/UTRkabQCfnG1vwpRXYDwrRiKsTdECcgWVCJA3lz D4AxutA7XdOVIFpyj1kZkpUNtkVLiaicieV3rQPbYwxtoo4FXVq2Ob5crW0Vr1f+ ywRYKyD/gpI= =flAQ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
RE: Help!!!!!! Package install problems!!!
I have the same type of CDROM. I used the goldstar cdrom driver (gscd). I works fine. Try that driver and you should have full access to the CD. It is possible to use dselect without the the packages file - but I don't recommend this. I have done it that way and it can lead to problems. When I did use dselect, I only copied one package file - do to HD space limits. It will function but you may not find some of your .debs. If you copy the package file from contrib non of the non-free packages will be reflected. Then you would need to dpkg those debs. If you use the DOS or HARDRIVE installs you will need the full path names that you have saved your debs to. Packages does need to be in one of the directories listed in your dselect setup. Hope this helps. If you want more details let me know. Rod. -Original Message- From: Lyndon Fletcher [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 1998 10:38 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject:Help!! Package install problems!!! Hi, I'm reposting this message with a few clarifications in the hope that someone will answer my questions. I was recently lent an old 486 PC by a friend so that I could do some Web server development. The machine is not mine and not readily upgradable so I HAVE to work with what I have. First limitation is that the machine only has ~360Mb of hard disk space, limitation number 2 is that the machine has an old CDROM drive with an ISA based proprietary controller card. This card is NOT supported by Linux, though I have a DOS boot disc with the nescessary drivers for DOS. I also have Cheapbytes version of the Debian 2.0 CD. OK. Now I cann't load Debian directly off of the CD because the CDROM drive is not supported. So I got base installed on the machine by creating a 30MB Dos partition and copying the basic installation files on to it from DOS. Install went OK up to the point where I need to install packages, then the lack of the CD (and space on the HD for temporary storage) became a problem. I need parts of about 8 or 9 packages some of which will involve loading up to 80MB at a time in temporary storage if I can't use the CD as source. My problem is how to load the rest of the packages. I have a couple of ideas and would like to know the answers to a few specific questions. 1) Idea 1 I could copy a few packages at a time onto the 30Mb Dos drive and install from there. Question 1 --- To run dselect do I only need the .deb files or do I need the packages files too? Question 2 --- If I do need the packages file do I have to edit it to reflect the actual path to the .deb files? If not how do you deal with loading packages from paths different from those in the package file? Question 3 --- What constitutes a package? I have several directories called things like net do I copy the whole directory or just the .deb files I seem to need? Idea 2 I also have a laptop PC with a working CDROM (running win95) on which I've installed an FTPD for win95. Question 4 --- when I try to use this machine as an FTP source, Dselect seems to expect a specific layout dist/stable/main et al Unfortunately my CD has the form d:/debian/hamm/hamm... How can I change this so that Dselect can read fron the remote drive? Question 5 --- the packages file has the paths to the files listed as dist/stable/main etc. However, the layout of my CD is D:/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/... would I need a new packages file with the paths corrected? Question 6 --- is it possible to use a packages file in a different path from where the .deb files are stored? Hope that you can send me some answers... I've been pulling my hair out over this all week. Thanks Fletch -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Smail not delivering mail to local domain
Pat, I had the same problem and made the same change. Sorry I didn't recognize that when you posted your query; I made the change to the hostnames line in /etc/smail/config more on a hunch than based on actually understanding what I was doing ;-), and I promptly forgot about it. I had already set up the corporate M$-Exchange server as the smarthost (that term is a little ironic in this case?) but could not get the mail routed through it for in-company mail without removing the :mycompany.com domain specification, as you did. I had no local support on this because I'm running the wrong softare (i.e. Linux) as my desktop OS, so I just hacked away until it worked. I have wondered if there was a better way to solve this and would agree that a FAQ that spelled out how to deal with this situation would be most helpful. This is not an esoteric configuration problem. Bottom line: I have had no problems with mail since setting it up. Regards - MikeT (Not to be confused with miket (my son) who posts actual helpful info.) On Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 12:44:15PM +, Patrick Colbeck wrote: Recently I posted about smail being able to deliver mail via smtp to remote domains but not to users on my own domain unless they existed on the box smail was running on. Basically I wanted mail for these users to be delivered to the company mail server. Several people have offered solutions using smartuser or smartrelay but for once I have come up with a simple solution myself so incase anyone else has the same problem here it is. In /etc/smail/config as setup by debian there is a line like this hostnames=hostname.domain:domain eg hostname=workstation1.somecompany.com:somecompany.com change it to hostname=hostname.domain.com eg hostname=workstation1.somecompany.com Now it should work properly and hand off all mail for users not on workstation1 to whatever dns turns up as an mx record dor the domain. If anyone has any comments about any negative effects of this solution please mail me. -- Michael E. Touloumtzis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian too difficult, Red Hat?
On Wed, 16 Dec 1998, Richard E. Hawkins Esq. wrote: I am wondering if Debian is just too difficult for me at this point. I am wondering if maybe I should try Red Hat, I have heard it is easier to install, and then come back to Debian. Two years ago, Red Hat was certainly easier to install. Today, debian is much easier. Debian fixed its problems, and red had made no discernable difference (on the other hand, every time I have GNU/ Linux shoved in my face, I give FreeBSD another thought. Anyone know how to remove it? I can't find where it's coming from). /etc/issue Bob Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Graphics Card: S3 3D - compatible?
Hi, I'm looking at buying a new PC sometime soon - I've just seen a *very* good looking deal for a 350MHz Pentium II system. As usual, my main compatibility worries are with video and sound cards. The video card is described by the supplier as an AGP S3 3D card, with a 365 chipset. I've looked through the hardware compatibility HOWTO and the XFree86 website, and I can't see mention of this card or chipset specifically. well, i believe it is not supported even in Xfree 3.3.3 released late November. I read somewhere that developers got info too late to be included in xf3.3.3. Support is promised to arrive in future Xfree release (4.0 ?) Can anybody confirm that this card will work OK on Debian (basically Hamm at the moment...) I'll want to use X, and possibly OpenGL (Mesa). Probably not graphics intensive stuff generally, but I'd like to look at getting Quake and some other games running (it's not the end of the world if I fail, but I'd have to run them in DOS/Win95, so maybe it's bad enough... :-) Actually, does anybody know what this card is like, in general - is it 3D accelerated or not, do I need to check things like how much memory it has, will it run Quake II at mega-accelerated speeds, etc etc? If it's not up to much, does anybody have any suggestions as to a good card to get? I've been thinking of one of the ATI [EMAIL PROTECTED] cards - are they a good bet? the only card with 3D acceleration supported are Voodoo and Voodoo2, plus there is also alpha quality driver for Permedia2 cards. Voodoo banshee is not supported nut some work is under way The sound card is described as a SoundBlaster 16 Compatible, made by SoundPro. Again, will this be supported, and/or is it a good card? The only real use I have for sound is likely to be for games (both under Linux and Windows), so it's not a disaster if it's low spec, but I'd like something reasonable... don't know about sound OK
