Re: Debian 2.1
On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 03:17:01PM +, Hue-Bond wrote: On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Antonio Calvo Rodriguez wrote: Enrique Zanardi wrote: para unos problemillas que tiene el dpkg cuando el superusuario tiene definido el locale como algo distinto de C o POSIX ¿Y esto ? ¿no es recomendable tener al root con el locale español? Yo lo tengo así: # locale LANG=es_ES.ISO-8859-1 LC_CTYPE=es_ES.ISO-8859-1 LC_NUMERIC=es_ES.ISO-8859-1 LC_TIME=es_ES.ISO-8859-1 LC_COLLATE=es_ES.ISO-8859-1 LC_MONETARY=es_ES.ISO-8859-1 LC_MESSAGES=es_ES.ISO-8859-1 LC_ALL= Y el dpkg no falla. ¿Qué versión del dpkg? ¿Y el dpkg-dev? Los errores por problemas de i18n no siempre son fáciles de detectar. En el caso del dpkg, el error a veces se produce cuando tiene que mostrar un simple mensaje tipo Fichero no encontrado, en lugar de eso da una violación de segmento... -- Enrique Zanardi[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: pasos
On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 03:18:13PM -0300, Pablo Cernadas wrote: Queridos amigos: Alguien se podria tomar la molestia de decirme los pasos para instalar debian (la primera fase) desde diskette?les agradeceria y me hayudaria mucho,he desinstalado el suse y quiero reemplazarlo por este sistema. En http://www.debian.org/2.0/install.es.html tienes el manual de instalación en español, para la Debian 2.0. Está todo bastante explicado, y no es un documento demasiado grande. Si no tienes acceso al WWW avisa, y te lo mando por correo-e. Saludos, -- Enrique Zanardi[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problemas con el correo de Netscape
Saludos a todos: Mi problema es muy sencillo. primero explicaré la situación: Tengo instalado en dos distribuciones de linux el Netscape communicator 4.5 que regaló PC Actual en su número de diciembre, incluso he instalado el móculo para español, os sea que trabajo con netscape totalmente en castellano. Todo funciona como la seda, navego sin ningún problema en las dos distribuciones. Entonces he querido configurar la parte de correo. Lo he hecho igual que con cualquier otro programa de correo (confieso que no lo he hecho en Linux). Incluso estoy escribiendo estas líneas desde el Netscape 4.5 de Windows, que he configurado exactamente igual. En cambio cuando intento abrir la ventana de correo de Netscape en Linux me da el siguiente mensaje de error: La bandeja de entrada predeterminada no existe. ¡No puede recibir correo! ¿Sabe alguien qué es lo que sucede? ¿Cómo puedo arreglarlo?. Muchas gracias, aunque solo sea por leer el mensaje.
Problemas con upgrade.
Hoy le di upgrade a un servidor de Bo(1.3) a Hamm(2.0) y han surgido algunos problemas: 1.- Los clientes del NIS no pueden leer la tabla de password cada que se reinicia el server pero lo soluciono parando y reiniciando el nis. 2.- En las maquina clientes cuando ejecutan pine por ejemplo no funciona y dice lo siguiente: Egolas:~$ pine Who are you? (Unable to look up login name) Egolas:~$ 3.- Desde el servidor puedo conectarme a cualquier lado, pero desde otra maquina al servidor no puedo y dice lo siguiente: Egolas:~$ tn hydra Trying 148.204.83.32... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused Egolas:~$ Y no se como solucionarlos, principalmente el tercer problema, espero que alguien pueda ayudarme, me urge arreglarlo, de antemano les agradezco cualquier ayuda que puedan darme.
re: modems
Yo tengo un Zoltrix FM-336VSP (33600) externo que va muy bien. Discrimina Voz, datos y fax. Sirve de contestador automático e incluso soporta audio, es decir puedes hablar por teléfono con él sin necesidad de tarjeta de sonido. En Linux no me dio ningún problema. Solo seguí las instrucciones de instalación que encontré en redestb (en la sección de soporte), que son muy generales. y en Windows 95, 98 o NT solo hay que instalar el driver que viene en los discos (es el mismo para los 3 SO). Incluso trae un software de fax y de otras historias que está bastante bien. Yo estoy muy contento con él. Me costó 1 pts. Así que encima es barato. Ahora ya hay por ahí el de 56000 ¡Al mismo precio! (por ejemplo en KM, Alcampo,...). Supongo que habrá marcas que sean mejores que esta, y que incluso tendrán un rendimiento algo superior. Pero creo que no se puede pedir más por menos, y tal como está lo de Infovirria, qué más da. Vamos, que te lo recomiendo. De todos modos fíjate que no sea winmodem ni nada por el estilo, que yo ví algún modelo de zoltrix que lo era (aunque creo que es algo raro encontrarlo). Espero que te sirva de ayuda.
Re: modems
Angel Barrio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: De todos modos fíjate que no sea winmodem ni nada por el estilo, que yo ví algún modelo de zoltrix que lo era (aunque creo que es algo raro encontrarlo). Me voy a tirar a llorar _TODOS_ los Zoltrix que vi hoy son winmodems. ¿Cómo reconocer un no-modem en tres pasos fáciles? 1. Tome la caja del modem en cuestión. 2. Rótela hasta que la sección que dice System Requirements o Requisitos del Sistema esté frente a sus ojos. 3. Lea dicha sección. Si dice Requiere xxx o superior, donde xxx puede ser cualquiera de i386, Pentium 100 MHz, Pentium 166 MHz y similares, entonces _es_ un no-modem. ¿Qué es un no-modem? Como su nombre lo indica, es un aparato que ostenta ser un modem, pero es exactamente lo contrario. Se presenta en varios formatos: WinModem, HSP, Software Modem, Memory Mapped Modem o Rockwell. Cualquiera es tan malo como el anterior. El peor de todos es el HSP (Host Signal Processing), pues en un Pentium MMX 233 MHz puede llegar a utilizar más del 55% del CPU cuando opera a 53 kbps. Un HSP _no_ es un modem, es una tarjeta con un conector RJ-45 y un chip que no hace otra cosa que pasar la información de dicho conector al CPU del computador. ¿Dónde puedo encontrar no-modems? = En cualquier tienda que venda equipo de computo en la región central de Costa Rica. GH!!! Marcelo
De nuevo por acá...
Después de estar más de mes y medio sin teléfono y ahora con $700.000 (como 450 dólares) menos en mi bolsillo, vuelvo a estar 'on-line' Que ha habido de nuevo en estos últimos dos meses? ¿Alguien me puede echar una manito? ¿Que pasó con el Slink? ¿En que vá? Ciao PD: solo por saludar -- Ugo Enrico Albarello López de Mesa| POWERED BY | www.debian.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DEBIAN GNU/LINUX 2.0 | www.gnu.org - Always Free, Always Cool, Always Linux
Firma electronica en debian
Hola, Que paquete debian sirve para crear firmas electronicas y como se hace? Gracias, -- - Jose Luis Trivintilde;o Rodriguez LAB. 2.3.4 Tlf.: (95) 2132863 http://www.lcc.uma.es/personal/trivino/trivino.html - La medida de programar es programar sin medida
Re: Firma electronica en debian
Jose Luis Trivino dixit: Hola, Que paquete debian sirve para crear firmas electronicas y como se hace? Gracias, pgp, del que hay dos versiones, 2.6.3i y 5.0i. También está gnupg, pero en versión de desarrollo. Saludos, Horacio.
LiNUX en la calle ???
Saludos, Tal vez este no sea el sitio adecuado para discutir este tema, pero me parece tan fundamental que se trate desde las distribuciones (y la de Debian la formamos todos nosotros) que no me da verguenza ninguna introducir el tema. :-) Todos sabemos los problemas a los que se enfrenta LiNUX a la hora de promocionarse, y hay que admitir que no son pocos. Es mas, son bastantes. Y esto es algo que, por mas apego que se tenga a la preciada criatura, hay que admitir y comprender. Este es el primer paso, que no dudo conocera todo linuxero que posea un minimo de razon. LiNUX es un sistema limpio, eficiente, capaz, y agradecido. Bien. Tambien es un sistema complejo, que como no podia ser de otra manera, hoy por hoy cobra toda su potencia en tiempo de aprendizaje y resolucion de multiples cuestiones tecnicas (y no tan tecnicas) por parte del usuario. Esto es una de las cosas que se le echa en cara al sistema, y con toda la razon del mundo. Bien, un problema al que se aduce constantemente es la 'amigabilidad' del sistema. Pero esto nos lleva a una cuestion importante : Que es un sistema amigable ?. Para mi, LiNUX es un sistema totalmente amigable, en tanto en cuanto es el S.O que conozco que mejor se cuida a si mismo, y por ende al usuario. En la otra vertiente, esta la gente que opina que un sistema 'amigable' es aquel que proporciona una mayor facilidad de uso. Y esta gente, con pocas excepciones, esta formada por el usuario pequenio y medio, que podrian englobarse en el 'usuario final'. Al igual que LiNUX hace pagar su potencia y fiabilidad, otros S.O conocidos por su facil manejo (como Windows u OS/2) tambien hacen pagar esta ultima caracteristica. Con que?. Pues con poca potencia y fiabilidad (en la mayor parte de los casos, que sin duda engloba a Windows 95/98/NT, y en menor medida a OS/2). Cual seria el S.O ideal ? . Pues aquel que englobara las dos caracteristicas en cuestion : potencia y facilidad de manejo. Muchos dicen, y con bastante buen criterio, que estas dos caracteristicas son incompatibles al 100%. Argumentan que no se puede obtener un sistema potente al 100% y facil de usar al 100%. Bueno, merece la pena el intentarlo. Dicho esto, hay que aclarar una gran diferenciacion: el problema de LiNUX (esa falta de facilidad de uso), es un problema cuya resolucion pasa por la elaboracion (mejor o peor) de interfaces o front-ends adecuadas. Sin embargo, el problema de otros S.O, como Windows xx , ya no pasa por la elaboracion de una interfaz, sino que, para dar mas potencia al sistema, habria que empezar por los cimientos, en lugar de poner un buen tejado, como en el caso de LiNUX. Y esto es lo que debe entender el usuario de a pie. Este usuario, en la mayoria de los casos, empezo su vida informatica con Windows, hace pocos anios, y hay que comprender que a ese usuario le cueste moverse. De hecho, y me duele decir esto, el cambio a LiNUX no es recomendable en muchos casos, hasta que se haga un buen tejado, confortable y bondadoso para este usuario final. Muy a mi pesar, y con toda mi buena fe, a algunas personas que me han pedido consejo respecto a que S.O utilizar, y despues de exponerme el uso que le van a dar a la maquina, le he recomendado instalarse un Windows, que, para escribir cartas, le va a dar el mismo servicio que LiNUX, y de manera mas grata. Que nadie me malinterprete, estoy hablando de hoy en dia. Poco le queda ya a LiNUX para tener el tejado terminado, y esto gracias a las distribuciones (a todas). Y que puede hacer el linuxero ademas que colaborar con las distribuciones ? . Para empezar, ayudar a la gente (y muy a menudo a si mismo) en las listas de correo. Y, ahi va dirigido este tedioso mensaje, a sacar a LiNUX a la calle. No estoy diciendo organizar manifestaciones, o ir a tirar huevos a las puertas de Microsoft Iberica, sino otra cosa muy distinta, y mas acorde con la filosofia de LiNUX, como por ejemplo: - Se discute en la comunidad de vecinos la compra de un ordenador para la gestion de la comunidad ?. Apoya la mocion y cuidate de que este ordenador vaya equipado con LiNUX (si es necesario, hazte cargo tu del mismo). - El jefe se queja de que la red ya se ha caido ocho veces en lo que va de mes ?. Pues recomiendale LiNUX, y si es necesario da un pequenio seminario a tus companieros para su manejo. - Que en el barrio nadie ha oido hablar de LiNUX ni de nada semejante ?. Buscate unos cuantos linuxeros del mismo (que los habra) y organiza unas charlas. Y asi en muchos casos mas. Como se puede observar, todas ellas llevan implicitas un trabajo 'gratuito', que no lo es en ningun caso. En mi opinion, los linuxeros somos una de las congregaciones mas egoistas, pues si nos pasamos tres horas al dia manteniendo un paquete, haciendo un parche para el kernel, impartiendo un seminario, organizando unas jornadas, u otra actividad parecida, nos estamos ayudando a nosotros mismos, llevando para
RE: modems
Hola... 3. Lea dicha sección. Si dice Requiere xxx o superior, donde xxx puede ser cualquiera de i386, Pentium 100 MHz, Pentium 166 MHz y similares, entonces _es_ un no-modem. Te aseguro, que en la caja que tenemos, pone eso, y que es un hardware modem, y que funciona correctamente con linux. El peor de todos es el HSP (Host Signal Processing), pues en un Pentium MMX 233 MHz puede llegar a utilizar más del 55% del CPU cuando opera a 53 kbps. Un HSP _no_ es un modem, es una tarjeta con un conector RJ-45 y un chip que no hace otra cosa que pasar la información de dicho conector al CPU del computador. En la pagina de Zoltrix, en el enlace de drivers, vienen descritos y diferenciados, los diferentes modelos, segun sean Winmodem o no. No tengo nada que ver con Zoltrix, pero cuando entregaron el modem, me costo emplear un par de horas consultando en la web, para comprobar el funcionamiento con Linux. Saludos.
Re: LiNUX en la calle ???
J.E. Marchesi wrote: Saludos, Tal vez este no sea el sitio adecuado para discutir este tema, pero me parece tan fundamental que se trate desde las distribuciones (y la de Debian la formamos todos nosotros) que no me da verguenza ninguna introducir el tema. :-) Todos sabemos los problemas a los que se enfrenta LiNUX a la hora de promocionarse, Cada vez menos, Ultimamente se oye hablar de linux por todas partes. .. importante : Que es un sistema amigable ?. Para mi, LiNUX es un sistema totalmente amigable, en tanto en cuanto es el S.O que conozco que mejor se cuida a si mismo, y por ende al usuario. Como todo sistema complejo, no siempre es posible hacer las cosas muy amigables, porque no se trata solo de hacer un programita con unos menus o unas casillas de seleccion, se trata de saber lo que se hace. Realmente lo que hace a un sistema amigable es una buena documentacion, y linux tiene una de las mejores. ( Por supuesto que cualquier herramienta que facilite las cosas es siempre bien recibida) .. - El jefe se queja de que la red ya se ha caido ocho veces en lo que va de mes ?. Pues recomiendale LiNUX, y si es necesario da un pequenio seminario a tus companieros para su manejo. - Que en el barrio nadie ha oido hablar de LiNUX ni de nada semejante ?. Buscate unos cuantos linuxeros del mismo (que los habra) y organiza unas charlas. Creo que la mayor parte de nosotros no hacemos mas que hablar bien de linux, en casa, con los amigos, en el trabajo, etc. Algunos tenemos la suerte de poder incluso trabajar con este SISTEMA. ( Y ya empiezan a darse cuenta de que es algo serio, estable, atractivo (yo utilizo fvwm2 con un desktop virtual personalizado que es la envidia de muchos) y que ya hay muchas aplicaciones comerciales (netscape, wp8, BD., etc..) aparte de las libres que no tienen nada que envidiar a estas. ) Y nada mas. Perdon por la extension del mensaje, que no lo volvere a hacer ;-). Eso, que no se repita. ;-) Saludos. -- Fernando. {:-{D Hackers do it with fewer instructions.
Accesos al tcplogd
Hola. Acabo de observar que el tcplogd y el icmplogd me acaban de dejar esto en el syslog: [.] Mar 5 13:20:24 lbt3 tcplogd: port 1173 connection attempt from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mar 5 13:20:24 lbt3 icmplogd: destination unreachable from [141.76.20.99] Mar 5 13:20:33 lbt3 icmplogd: destination unreachable from [141.76.20.99] Mar 5 13:20:33 lbt3 tcplogd: port 1238 connection attempt from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mar 5 13:20:33 lbt3 icmplogd: destination unreachable from [141.76.20.99] [.] Y lo mismo para los puertos: 1258, 1263, 1265, 1267, 1269, 1271, 1276, 1278, 1286 y el 1371. He mirado en el /etc/services y no tengo nada con esos puertos. Alguien sabe para que son? Puede ser un ataque a la maquina? O quizas debo pasar? Al principio pense que era cosa del samba porque instale la version 2.0.X de potato, pero luego me he dado cuenta de que es cosa del icmplog que registra estas cosas. Saludos +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ Cesar Talon email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laboratorio de Bajas Temperaturas / Dpto.Física de la Materia condensada Universidad Autonoma de Madrid / Cantoblanco, E-28049 Madrid Phone: +34 91 397 4756 / Fax: +34 91 397 3961 If it wasn't for Newton, we wouldn't have to eat bruised apples. +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
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RE: modems
Es mas barato un no-modem? Lo voy a usar en casa? Transmite datos? Puedo entrar a Internet? Puedo bajar correo? Entonces dame 2. Saludos Gustavo -- De: Marcelo E. Magallon[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado el: viernes 5 de marzo de 1999 1:00 Para: lista de debian Asunto: Re: modems Angel Barrio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: De todos modos fíjate que no sea winmodem ni nada por el estilo, que yo ví algún modelo de zoltrix que lo era (aunque creo que es algo raro encontrarlo). Me voy a tirar a llorar _TODOS_ los Zoltrix que vi hoy son winmodems. ¿Cómo reconocer un no-modem en tres pasos fáciles? 1. Tome la caja del modem en cuestión. 2. Rótela hasta que la sección que dice System Requirements o Requisitos del Sistema esté frente a sus ojos. 3. Lea dicha sección. Si dice Requiere xxx o superior, donde xxx puede ser cualquiera de i386, Pentium 100 MHz, Pentium 166 MHz y similares, entonces _es_ un no-modem. ¿Qué es un no-modem? Como su nombre lo indica, es un aparato que ostenta ser un modem, pero es exactamente lo contrario. Se presenta en varios formatos: WinModem, HSP, Software Modem, Memory Mapped Modem o Rockwell. Cualquiera es tan malo como el anterior. El peor de todos es el HSP (Host Signal Processing), pues en un Pentium MMX 233 MHz puede llegar a utilizar más del 55% del CPU cuando opera a 53 kbps. Un HSP _no_ es un modem, es una tarjeta con un conector RJ-45 y un chip que no hace otra cosa que pasar la información de dicho conector al CPU del computador. ¿Dónde puedo encontrar no-modems? = En cualquier tienda que venda equipo de computo en la región central de Costa Rica. GH!!! Marcelo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: modems
Hola, Yo creo que en principio y por principios cualquier modem externo es un modem de verdad (no un no-modem) ¿Tan dificil te es encontrar un modem externo? Marcelo E. Magallon escribió: Angel Barrio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: De todos modos fíjate que no sea winmodem ni nada por el estilo, que yo ví algún modelo de zoltrix que lo era (aunque creo que es algo raro encontrarlo). Me voy a tirar a llorar _TODOS_ los Zoltrix que vi hoy son winmodems. ¿Cómo reconocer un no-modem en tres pasos fáciles? 1. Tome la caja del modem en cuestión. 2. Rótela hasta que la sección que dice System Requirements o Requisitos del Sistema esté frente a sus ojos. 3. Lea dicha sección. Si dice Requiere xxx o superior, donde xxx puede ser cualquiera de i386, Pentium 100 MHz, Pentium 166 MHz y similares, entonces _es_ un no-modem. ¿Qué es un no-modem? Como su nombre lo indica, es un aparato que ostenta ser un modem, pero es exactamente lo contrario. Se presenta en varios formatos: WinModem, HSP, Software Modem, Memory Mapped Modem o Rockwell. Cualquiera es tan malo como el anterior. El peor de todos es el HSP (Host Signal Processing), pues en un Pentium MMX 233 MHz puede llegar a utilizar más del 55% del CPU cuando opera a 53 kbps. Un HSP _no_ es un modem, es una tarjeta con un conector RJ-45 y un chip que no hace otra cosa que pasar la información de dicho conector al CPU del computador. ¿Dónde puedo encontrar no-modems? = En cualquier tienda que venda equipo de computo en la región central de Costa Rica. GH!!! Marcelo -- ===NaClU2\==Ignacio= _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ ( @ @ ) _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ +-ºoO(_)Ooº-+ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/| 40º25'N 3º39'O | _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ +---+
Re: modems
On Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 07:32:29PM +0100, Ignacio J. Alonso wrote: Yo creo que en principio y por principios cualquier modem externo es un modem de verdad (no un no-modem) ¿Tan dificil te es encontrar un modem externo? Es correcto, en principio cualquier modem externo es un modem de verdad. Habría que ser realmente chapucero para diseñar un winmodem externo. El problema que tengo es que parece que acá los modems externos son muy populares, pues en todas las tiendas donde a la fecha he preguntado (16) están agotados/se acabaron/van a llegar :( Necesito un poco de paciencia. Gracias! Marcelo
Re: Concatenar al final de un fichero
On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Antonio Castro wrote: On Wed, 3 Mar 1999, Hue-Bond wrote: Bash (por lo menos) cuando ve el carácter '', se encarga de abrir el archivo y borrar todo lo que hay, así que no se llenaría el disco, simplemente se perdería el contenido de file3. Un fichero abierto para lectura puede ser borrado sin que afecte en lo más mínimo al proceso que lo tiene abierto. Conviene matizar el significado de borrar. Yo me refería a borrar el contenido del archivo, no el archivo en sí mismo. Parece extraño pero es así (pruebalo). Pues no sé no sé. Copié ~/Mail/bugtraq a ~/Mail/bugtrack, lo abrí con el pine, leí un par de mensajes, borré el archivo con rm y pude leer otro par de mensajes. Me fui a /proc/pine_pid/fd/ y vi que no había ningún descriptor abierto para bugtrack (tampoco sé si lo hay en condiciones normales). Volví a la consola del pine y ya no pude leer más artículos. Probé también con borrar parte de bugtrack con el joe, y pine lo detectó (File shrank from xx to yy bytes, closing!). En el momento que el proceso cierre el fichero el kernel liberará el espacio de disco. Pues yo creo que el archivo desapareció tan pronto lo borré yo, sin esperar a cerrar el mailbox en pine. ¿Quizá estamos hablando de cosas distintas? La terminacion de la lectura depende del momemto en el que se encuentre el fin de fichero y si el fichero que coincide con la salida es el último de una lista de ellos cuando empiece a leerlo no estaría vacio. Creo que lo pillo tras leer 5 veces :-) cat file200Mbytes file5bytes file5bytes Esto resultaría en un file5bytes de 400 Mb, no? Y además, como digo en mi anterior post, el contenido de file5bytes original se perdería. M, 400 Mb o infinito... -- Linux, como su propio nombre indica, es *el* sistema operativo. (Barbwired) David Serrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Registered User no. 87069 http://come.to/Hue-Bond.world In love with TuX. Linux 2.2.2 PGP Public key at http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fserrano/pgp_pubkey.asc
Re: PARABENS!!!!
Bom dia, O interesse neste novo sistema operacional ( Linux ) eh grande e crescendo a cada dia; o que falta eh atencao da midia ( revistas, jornais, etc) que ao contrario da imprensa americana e mundial tem esperado demais para brindar o leitor com materias sobre o assunto. Numa coisa voce pode apostar: o mercado consumidor esta carente disto, tanto pelo aspecto tecnico da coisa, como pela diversificacao de ofertas, surgimento de novos produtos, etc; e tb pela agitacao e curiosidade que o linux tem gerado pelo mundo afora. Este mes tivemos o LinuxWorld Expo ( http://www.linuxworld.com ) em San Jose, California; em maio teremos mais uma exposicao ( Http://linuxexpo.org ) e em tudo isto ao que parece a midia brasileira nao ta dando a minima. Nos Estados Unidos a coisa passou da brincadeira para a guerra comercial. E com os problemas causados pelo resultados esperados do julgamento da Microsoft, a coisa esta so comecando. Estamos vivenciando um momentum historico.E eh preciso prestar atencao nele. E digo mais : a revista que criar um caderno especial com noticias regulares sobre o linux, ganha de imediato milhares de leitores, que no brasil nao tem por enquanto nada parecido. Na esperanca de que tenhamos dias melhores, atenciosamente, Clovis Sena. ps: seria interessante forward esta mensagem para outras revistas e canais da midia? ps: se vc recebeu esta por engano ou acha que nao tem nada com isto, por favor ignore. -Mensagem original- De: Roberto Araujo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: Clovis Sena / Itautec Servicos Recife [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data: Quinta-feira, 4 de Março de 1999 21:07 Assunto: Re: PARABENS Caro Clóvis, Fiquei muito satisfeito em receber seu e-mail. É ótimo saber que o Linux está despertando todo este interesse. Estamos estudando uma maneira de colocar o Star Office no disco. Obrigado pelos elogios e espero continuar contando com o seu pretígio. Roberto Araújo Diretor de redação -Mensagem original- De: Clovis Sena / Itautec Servicos Recife [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org Data: Quarta-feira, 3 de Março de 1999 10:42 Assunto: PARABENS Bom dia, Quero parabenizar esta oportuna materia sobre o Linux e sobretudo pelo cd rom que vem acompanhando a revista. Gostaria de sugerir para proxima edicao da PCMASTER materias sobre o julgamento contra a Microsoft, tao mal noticiado no Brasil e um cdrom com o StarOffice for Linux. Atenciosamente, Clovis Sena
Sexo e traducao do Website!
Quanto a traducao do Website, eu ja traduzi todos os templates WML que tinham que ser traduzidos para o portugues e traduzi a pagina principal do Debian, ja fiz o upload e em algum momento quando o site for atualizado e provavel que as traducoes aparecam em seus lugares. Quem quiser traduzir uma pagina do site, leia as instrucoes em http://www.br.debian.org/devel/HOWTO_translate (alias, elas precisam ser traduzidas). Quem nao quiser, ou nao souber como usar o CVS pode simplesmente escolher uma pagina do site que eu mando o codigo fonte a ser traduzido (NAO TRADUZAM DO HTML E LEIAM AS INSTRUCOES!), me mantenham avisado do que estiverem fazendo para a gente tentar organizar... Eu pretendo traduzir alguma coisa toda a semana, se todos nos programarmos de modo a fazer pouco, mas regularmente, faremos bastante progresso! Quanto ao Sexo, fica por conta de voces, voces podem fazer inclusive durante as traducoes, caso consigam. Eu so quis chamar a atencao de voces para as traducoes do web site ;) -- Eduardo Marcel MacanCore Technologies Informatica LTDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Suporte e Desenvolvimento Unix/Linux. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Developer Visite-nos em http://thecore.com.br
Sobre a lista (was: Como usar o ISAPNP)
On Mar 05, Hernan Joel Cervantes Rodriguez decided to present us with: Oi, : Este é o endereço correto preu enviar menssagens pra esta lista? Eu acho que sim :-) Está. No momento temos poucas pessoas interessadas em Debian no mundo de língua portuguesa, portanto temos só uma lista (esta) que serve tanto para mensagens do tipo user (pedidos de ajuda como o do Rodrigo e ajudas como a do Hernan) quanto do tipo devel (traduções, projetos etc). A idéia é que futuramente se houver demanda seja criada uma segunda lista debian-portuguese para que as mensagens do tipo devel sejam movidas para lá, deixando essa lista apenas para mensagens do tipo user. []s, |alo + -- I am Lalo of deB-org. You will be freed. Resistance is futile. http://www.webcom.com/lalo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key in the web page Debian GNU/Linux --http://www.debian.org
accepting talk from only some users
Hi! I'd like to accept only talk from a list of users I specify... something like: if you're not on the list the your party is refusing messages pop-up shows up, and if you're on the list the as usual. Does anybody know how to make this? TIA! -- p.
please help with backspace
Hi, somehow my backspace key does not work in rxvt and Netscape, but it works in xterm. How do I fix this?? Thanks. Shao. Shao Zhang \\/ 5/28-30 Victoria AVE OxO PENSHURST 2035 //\ Sydney, NSW ///\\ Australia\\\ / ^ _ \ ( (o) (o) ) * * *===oOOO=(_)=OOOo=* * * *| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | * * | http://shaoz.dyn.ml.org | * *** | http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2193893| * * *===Oooo.=* * * *.oooO ( | * * * * *( ) ) / * **\ ( (_/ \_)
fetchmail again.
Hi, Netscape mail has got the following two options for the pop3 server: Leave the messages on server Remove the messages from server when deleted locally How do I do this with fetchmail?? Thanks in advance. shao. Shao Zhang \\/ 5/28-30 Victoria AVE OxO PENSHURST 2035 //\ Sydney, NSW ///\\ Australia\\\ / ^ _ \ ( (o) (o) ) * * *===oOOO=(_)=OOOo=* * * *| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | * * | http://shaoz.dyn.ml.org | * *** | http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2193893| * * *===Oooo.=* * * *.oooO ( | * * * * *( ) ) / * **\ ( (_/ \_)
Re: Please HELP ME!!!
On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Nuno Donato wrote: I really need some help here. How can I have Linux to mount automatically my hard drives at boot. Because every time I run Linux, I have to mount all my partitions into separate directories. Can I create some type of autoexec file? You have such a thing (or can create one) in your .login file. Note the prefixed period which generally keeps the file from showing up when you look at your home directory (use ls -al to see all your files and related parameters). UNIX had this first, and Microsoft copied the idea with Autoexec.Bat. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Shupp California State University, Northridge Graduate Student, Dept. of Anthropology http://www.csun.edu/~ms44278/index.htm
it's far, far more than a mere editor.
I hadn't been intending to ask about this, but since folks are exposing their prej--er-- discussing fine points of editors, has there ever been a UNIX or Linux port of XyWrite in any of its incarnations or of NotaBena? (or Atex, a dedicated word processing system from which XyWrite was derived?) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Shupp California State University, Northridge Graduate Student, Dept. of Anthropology http://www.csun.edu/~ms44278/index.htm
question regarding this news group and accessing it.
I really hate having to download all of these messages every day when I read only a handfull. I do all my email on my side NT computer with Eudora and filter all the debian user emails to another folder. I was wondering if there is a place that all the Debian-Users news group is archived so I can just read it from there? Ramiel Givergis, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.relm.net --~~~===[^]===~~~-- This mail is a natural product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.
Netscape 4.08 questions
I while ago I installed netscape communicator 4.08 in /usr/local. I works fine except that it is extremely slow. Specificly, If I am at the browser page and try to open the mail window it takes about 2 minutes. That is not the time to get the mail, but simply to open the window. Does anyone know what the problem could be? Thanks
Re: question regarding this news group and accessing it.
Quoting Ramiel Givergis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I really hate having to download all of these messages every day when I read only a handfull. I do all my email on my side NT computer with Eudora and filter all the debian user emails to another folder. I was wondering if there is a place that all the Debian-Users news group is archived so I can just read it from there? Ramiel Givergis, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.relm.net --~~~===[^]===~~~-- This mail is a natural product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Ramiel, I watch the digest version of this list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I am not looking for help. This way I only receive a few 30k messages a day. The headers let me scan quickly for interesting items. I use this command to turn on the digest. mail -s subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -Bill - This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/
forcing dselect to downgrade
I have been experiencing some problems due to my carelessly mixing releases. In order to fix the problem I would like to bring my system back to a state where only Stable components from my Debian 2.0 cd are on it, so that everything works correctly. And I can move forward from there if I choose. Dselect, will not normally replace a newer version with an old one. How do I override this?
Re: question regarding this news group and accessing it.
thanks, I just did it do I need to now unsubscribe to this email so I don't get the messages? At 07:45 PM 3/4/99 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Ramiel Givergis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I really hate having to download all of these messages every day when I read only a handfull. I do all my email on my side NT computer with Eudora and filter all the debian user emails to another folder. I was wondering if there is a place that all the Debian-Users news group is archived so I can just read it from there? Ramiel Givergis, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.relm.net --~~~===[^]===~~~-- This mail is a natural product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Ramiel, I watch the digest version of this list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I am not looking for help. This way I only receive a few 30k messages a day. The headers let me scan quickly for interesting items. I use this command to turn on the digest. mail -s subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -Bill - This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Ramiel Givergis, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.relm.net --~~~===[^]===~~~-- This mail is a natural product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects.
Re: Can Windows95 cause error on my Linux Drive.
Back when I did use one of the Gates viruses I had problems with win9X writeing to areas of the disk that it shouldn't. Some of those disks are still unusable today because of that. I would make sure that there were NO M$ partations on my Linux disk at all because of that. I would keep all of the M$ stuff on its own disk so it could never access my Linux disks in any way. You have been warned... John C. Ellingboe Person, Roderick wrote: Hey All, Recently, I added a new drive to my system as the slave 2nd drive. Therefore, I made my old drive a Win95 drive so the family could play games and such. Now it seems that everytime I log into my Linux drive (/dev/hdb) I get file system not unmount correctly errors. I fsck and get it in operating conditions and a day or two later i get the same errors. Could this be due to how other users are logging out of win95 or not logging out and just shuting off the machine? Drive 1 is totally win95(1.2GB) drive 2 is 5GB for Linux in 4 partitions and 1GB for win in one partition. Anyone having this problem. Roderick P. Person DBA/Programmer 454-2616 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/nullbegin: vcard fn: John C. Ellingboe - KE4BPW n: Ellingboe - KE4BPW;John C. org:The Guntersville Computer Center email;internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] title: Owner/Admin x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: ipmasqadm question
Quoting Ralf G. R. Bergs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 04 Mar 1999 15:51:51 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please help me find this beast :-) I *think* it's http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary- i386/net/ipmasq_3.3.1.deb Unfortunately I'm still under NT (:-) and I can't easily boot into the Debian system I have the binary installed under since this would involve removing my IDE hard drive and replacing it against the other drive, and I need to get work done at the moment. Could you check the above URL, and if it turns out that this is NOT ipmasqadm get back to me? Ralf -- Ralf G. R. Bergs * Welkenrather Str. 100/102 * 52074 Aachen * Germany +49-241-876892, +49-241-86 (fax) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * PGP ok! Sign the EU petition against SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/ Ralf, Thanks but... I checked with dselect and found I have ipmasq 3.3.1 installed already. There is NO sign of ipmasqadm on my system anywhere. I have run 'find / -name ipmasqadm' with no hits. I do appreciate your help. Please don't stop now, but I am in no big hurry. Perhaps there are others out there that have the needed info. Danke, (sp?) -Bill - This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/
Cheap pnp ne2000 Lan cards
I bought some cheap PNP ide ne2000 compatible crds to setup a small net work. My bios does not seeem to recognise the cards, but it does see my pnp sound card. Is there anything I can do via debian to use these cards? The cards are made by LanStar. They were only $12 each so it won't break me if they are junk. But any help is appreciated. By the way I only have or use Gnu/Debian, so a solution involving other os's is not viable. Thanks
Re: question regarding this news group and accessing it.
Quoting Ramiel Givergis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: thanks, I just did it do I need to now unsubscribe to this email so I don't get the messages? At 07:45 PM 3/4/99 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Ramiel Givergis [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I really hate having to download all of these messages every day when I read only a handfull. I do all my email on my side NT computer with Eudora and filter all the debian user emails to another folder. I was wondering if there is a place that all the Debian-Users news group is archived so I can just read it from there? Ramiel Givergis, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.relm.net --~~~===[^]===~~~-- This mail is a natural product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Ramiel, I watch the digest version of this list at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] when I am not looking for help. This way I only receive a few 30k messages a day. The headers let me scan quickly for interesting items. I use this command to turn on the digest. mail -s subscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -Bill - This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Ramiel Givergis, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.relm.net --~~~===[^]===~~~-- This mail is a natural product. The slight variations in spelling and grammar enhance its individual character and beauty and in no way are to be considered flaws or defects. Ramiel, That is the easy one, mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: unsubscribe -Bill - This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/
Re: forcing dselect to downgrade
On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 09:17:52PM -0500, Tommy wrote: I have been experiencing some problems due to my carelessly mixing releases. In order to fix the problem I would like to bring my system back to a state where only Stable components from my Debian 2.0 cd are on it, so that everything works correctly. And I can move forward from there if I choose. Dselect, will not normally replace a newer version with an old one. How do I override this? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null You don't. Downgrading packages has undefined results. A better option would be to tell the list about your problems and we'll help you fix them -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: Netscape 4.08 questions
On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 09:08:15PM -0500, Tommy wrote: I while ago I installed netscape communicator 4.08 in /usr/local. I works fine except that it is extremely slow. Specificly, If I am at the browser page and try to open the mail window it takes about 2 minutes. That is not the time to get the mail, but simply to open the window. Does anyone know what the problem could be? Thanks -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null What type of system are you running it on? How much RAM and Swap? Netscape uses lots of RAM. Right now, on my system, navigator 4.08 is using 35 MB of ram. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: Maximal Mount Check
On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 11:05:46AM -0500, Raymond A. Ingles wrote: On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, E.L. Meijer (Eric) wrote: In a message dated 3/4/99 7:40:39 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, defragging your disk isn't a normal Debian maintenance task? Is this true for all you guys that have been running Debian forever? Yes, defragging your disk is _not_ a normal Debian maintenance task. I have been running linux for some 3 three years now (started with Slackware) and never defragged a linux disk. The point is that the ext2 file system is, unlike fat or vfat, mostly `self-defragmenting'. Yup. The ext2 filesystem is a *lot* more intelligent about such things than the FAT filesystem ever could be. For example, typically 5-10% of the space on a partition is reserved for root-only access. Since the filesystem can generally count on that space being available, it can usually prevent fragmentation from arising in the first place. When you add in Linux's intelligent disk-cacheing (any unused RAM is used as a disk cache) if there *is* fragmentation, you only notice it once, when the file is first loaded. After that, it's in RAM. You can often *hear* the difference between filesystems on a noisy drive. Whit FAT, when you access a file you get a lot of jumping around the disk. With ext2, you generally hear something like tick-tick-buzz as it hits the inode table a couple of times and then gets the file more-or-less continuously. (Of course, I've got 128MB of RAM now. I can log in, start up X, and launch several shells before I need to load anything that isn't already in the cache. It's disconcerting the first few times to do all that in near-total silence. :- ) About the only time you get fragmentation is if the filesystem gets *really* full. If it happens, the defrag tools are available, but the best thing to do is just back up the partition, reformat, and restore from backup. This defragmentats at least as effectively, and you should really back stuff up *anyway* before you defrag, right? Sincerely, Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Engineering is like having an 8 a.m. class and a late afternoon lab every day for the rest of your life. - Anonymous -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null I've got a similar system. Top reports that I have a 50 MB disk cache. I was showing a friend Linux and he thought my hard drive had broken or that X had crashed when we had to wait for a program to start. :-) -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: Permissions of the sysadmin
On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 09:32:53AM -0600, Jonathan Guthrie wrote: Oh, I wasn't advocating rethinking root I was just pointing out that you cannot effectively prevent root from accessing anything you want to. (In fact, it can be damn tough to prevent access to certain users if you allow them to sudo stuff.) Sure. I am not against additional users with part of the rights of root controlled by the kernel. What I am against is having no root user at all. I try to work as root as less as possible. But it is great to have this possibilities when there is no other way. cu Torsten pgpZAKa0BZfgg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ipmasqadm question
Are you sure you don't mean ipfwadm (which is part of netbase)? Bob On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I checked with dselect and found I have ipmasq 3.3.1 installed already. There is NO sign of ipmasqadm on my system anywhere. I have run 'find / -name ipmasqadm' with no hits. I do appreciate your help. Please don't stop now, but I am in no big hurry. Perhaps there are others out there that have the needed info. Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen
Re: Shared PPP connection?
On Mon, 1 Mar 1999, Ramiel Givergis wrote: : :If you plan to use applications like ICQ or any servers on client computer :on your network you'll need to use a Proxy aswell. I don't have any proxying enabled and ICQ as well as silly AOL messenger work fine. I loaded all the ip_masq modules but that's pretty much it? --- The good thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum D'jinnie/Jinn, encountered on IRC and select MU**. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key
Re: cpu used too much
speaking of things going into infinite loops and eating up CPU, is there any way to get rid of zombie processes? Good ol' kill -9 doesn't cut it...I don't want to reboot just to get rid of them :( --- The good thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from. -- Andrew S. Tanenbaum D'jinnie/Jinn, encountered on IRC and select MU**. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key
Re: Netscape 4.08 questions
Stephen Pitts wrote: What type of system are you running it on? How much RAM and Swap? Netscape uses lots of RAM. Right now, on my system, navigator 4.08 is using 35 MB of ram. My system is an AMD 586 133 with 64 mg Ram and a 128mg swap. Kernel 2.1.125 I did not have this problem with previous versions of netscape. Thanks
Re: ipmasqadm question
Quoting Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are you sure you don't mean ipfwadm (which is part of netbase)? Bob On Thu, 4 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I checked with dselect and found I have ipmasq 3.3.1 installed already. There is NO sign of ipmasqadm on my system anywhere. I have run 'find / -name ipmasqadm' with no hits. I do appreciate your help. Please don't stop now, but I am in no big hurry. Perhaps there are others out there that have the needed info. Bob Nielsen Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson, AZ AMPRnet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DM42nh http://www.primenet.com/~nielsen Hi Bob, I believe ipfwadm only works with kernels 2.1.90 or so. The reading I get from the kernel source with 2.2.1 is that ipmasqadm is required. This thread has been heavily cut. The full details of my system are: Slink (mostly) 2.2.1 kernel Looking for port forwarding tool(s). Thanks for you help, -Bill - This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/
Re: question regarding this news group and accessing it.
Ramiel Givergis wrote: I was wondering if there is a place that all the Debian-Users news group is archived so I can just read it from there? There is an archive of the mails but is there a repository where one can get/download the compressed mail archive, say ordered by month ? I have subscribed to the mailing-list-digest but I want a tar.gz archive of the mailing list `debian-user' which can be downloaded from one place. ragOO, VU2RGU. Keeping the Air-Waves FREE.Amateur Radio Keeping the W W W FREE..Debian GNU/Linux
libc6-19981211-6
Hi, Anyone had problem with this version of libc6? After I install it, all my dns stop working, I had to down grade to the version in the stable hamm. A couple of weeks ago, I upgrade my system to slink, I had the same problem when I install libc6-19981211-4. The next day, a new libc6 came out(libc6-19981211-5), I installed this one, and everything works again. Now, with this newest version, the problem is back!! Where can I download libc-19981211-5 again?? As I need apt, and apt need a fairly recent version of libc. Thanks. Shao. Shao Zhang \\/ 5/28-30 Victoria AVE OxO PENSHURST 2035 //\ Sydney, NSW ///\\ Australia\\\ / ^ _ \ ( (o) (o) ) * * *===oOOO=(_)=OOOo=* * * *| [EMAIL PROTECTED] | * * | http://shaoz.dyn.ml.org | * *** | http://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~s2193893| * * *===Oooo.=* * * *.oooO ( | * * * * *( ) ) / * **\ ( (_/ \_)
Re: Cheap pnp ne2000 Lan cards
The cards are made by LanStar. They were only $12 each so it won't break me if they are junk. But any help is appreciated. By the way I only have or use Gnu/Debian, so a solution involving other os's is not viable. Thanks Did you try isapnptools? Will -- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/ | |PGP Public Key: http://www.cis.udel.edu/~lowe/index.html#pgpkey| -- | You think you're so smart, but I've seen you naked | | and I'll prob'ly see you naked again ... | | --The Barenaked Ladies, Blame It On Me | --
Re: fetchmail
Subject: Re: fetchmail Date: Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 10:28:33PM +1100 In reply to:Shao Zhang Quoting Shao Zhang([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Sorry, I did not describe what I want very clear. What I need is to leave them as Unread on the pop3 server. I retrieve them from pop3 at work, I want those mails still set to unread when I retrieve them for the second time, I still know what are the new messages I checked earlier at work. I guess I am trying to get it working more similar to an IMAP server. thx man fetchmail says -k -- Real programmers don't write in FORTRAN. FORTRAN is for pipe stress freaks and crystallography weenies. FORTRAN is for wimp engineers who wear white socks. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: accepting talk from only some users
On Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 12:01:52AM +, Pere Camps wrote: Hi! I'd like to accept only talk from a list of users I specify... something like: if you're not on the list the your party is refusing messages pop-up shows up, and if you're on the list the as usual. Does anybody know how to make this? You might want to take a look at the xitalk package. You should be able to configure it to do something like that. Although it only runs under X. -- Matt Folwell, P2 Whewell's Court, Trinity College, Cambridge. CB2 1TQ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PPP-Dialup: ioctl(PPPIOCGUNIT): Operation not permitted
I'm trying to use my working (as root) ISP-Dialupconnection as an normal user. I got following in ppp.log: Mar 4 19:55:29 Toshiba pppd[336]: pppd 2.2.0 started by matthschulz, uid 1000 Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: timeout set to 20 seconds Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: abort on (BUSY) Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: abort on (ERROR) Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: send (+++ATZ^M) Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: expect (OK) Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: ATZ^M^M Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: OK -- got it Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: send (ATF^M) Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: expect (OK) Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: ^M Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: ATF^M^M Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: OK -- got it Mar 4 19:55:30 Toshiba chat[337]: send (ATDT9,656^M) Mar 4 19:55:31 Toshiba chat[337]: timeout set to 60 seconds Mar 4 19:55:31 Toshiba chat[337]: expect (CONNECT) Mar 4 19:55:31 Toshiba chat[337]: ^M Mar 4 19:55:51 Toshiba chat[337]: ATDT9,656^M^M Mar 4 19:55:51 Toshiba chat[337]: CONNECT -- got it Mar 4 19:55:51 Toshiba pppd[336]: Serial connection established. Mar 4 19:55:52 Toshiba pppd[336]: ioctl(PPPIOCGUNIT): Operation not permitted Mar 4 19:55:52 Toshiba pppd[336]: ioctl(PPPIOCGDEBUG): Operation not permitted Mar 4 19:55:52 Toshiba pppd[336]: Exit. I'm in the group dip and all files in /etc/ppp, /etc/ppp.chatscript, pon and poff are owned by dip. (P.S. The entry for dip is only in gshadow, not in passwd or passwd-) What's wrong? Matth
Re: forcing dselect to downgrade
Stephen Pitts wrote: You don't. Downgrading packages has undefined results. A better option would be to tell the list about your problems and we'll help you fix them -- Currently dselect marks 90% of the package on my system as broken. And there are a lot of them. I tried switching to exim from smail, just to try it. I have constant error messages. Several aps/ games like quake no longer run when not in X and I can not seem to find the requested libraries or get them installed. Fetchmail does not work Most things on the box seem to work fine, but the whole thing seems a little whacked In the hope that my errors will not be repeated by other I will endure the embarrassment of explaining how this happened. My system was running fine off the packages is on my Debian 2.0 cdrom. I decided to upgrade some of the packages via ftp. When I upgraded the package lists of stable, unstable, contrib, and non-free dselect presumed that I wanted to upgrade everything on my system. That everything I had previously installed that had a newer package available was selected for install and included in the download list. This created a serious problem for me because I need the packaging system to warn me about dependencies. If I cancel the download and try to install individual packages via dpkg the required packages will already be marked as selected and no dependency warnings will be given. I tried getting part of the list of aps I wanted to upgrade, but got a ton of error messages for the reasons just cited. Not knowing what else to do I decided to get everything that had been selected. I must say I'm kind of ashamed of this since I really do know better than to hog an ftp site like that, but I really did not know what else to do. Needless to say lots of errors occur when you try to ftp hundreds of mgs of files. Now dselect say 90% of my packages are broken. Far to many to fix one at a time using dpkg. I feel as if I have lost control of my system. I would like to get control back. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank You
Dependences Problem - dselect
I'm trying to install Debian slink over the web. I don't have the CDs. The base install from the floppy images goes ok when debian.org is up I can update the packages. Now after 2 weeks of repeatedly trying now using the 2/23/99 disk images selecting the very smallest package, 25MB, this evening I got it to install over the web, I think. I've read all I can find on dselect, dpkg, installation instructions , v1 2 Debian manual none of them cover my problem. The 'Q' command character in dselect doesn't do as the online documentation says only lets it start the install until it checks the dependences then it, I presume dselect, refuses to go ahead. I have a suspicion, with only scant evidence, that the following modules are set to both require the dependent modules/libraries be incompatable with them. libc6-dev 2.0.7t-1 requires libc6 2.0.7t-1 and perl 5.004.04-6 requires perl-base 5.004.04-6 Yes, the dependent modules are selected to be installed but that doesn't help. I selected Debian because of the completeness of the packages included because of the volunteer nature of the project. However, this reminds me of the GNU software that I have tried to install use a little in years past. As near as I could tell the programs worked well, with scant evidence, but I could never be sure what was going on since the documentation was mostly not there.
Re: Can Windows95 cause error on my Linux Drive.
John C. Ellingboe wrote: Back when I did use one of the Gates viruses I had problems with win9X writeing to areas of the disk that it shouldn't. Some of those disks are still unusable today because of that. I would make sure that there were NO M$ partations on my Linux disk at all because of that. I would keep all of the M$ stuff on its own disk so it could never access my Linux disks in any way. You have been warned... Well, let's not *too* get carried away with the anti-MS stuff. Nothing any OS writes to any disk, anywhere, will make it permanently unusable. If nothing else, clearing the MBR sector and starting from scratch will work. Tom -- Try Debian GNU/Linux - it's free, it's open source, and it rocks http://www.debian.org
dselect handling stable AND unstable [was Re: forcing dselect to downgrade]
Tommy wrote: When I upgraded the package lists of stable, unstable, contrib, and non-free dselect ... This is something that I've always wondered about. Can you actually tell dselect about both stable and unstable at the same time? I've always been afraid to do that. -- ...RickM...
Re: forcing dselect to downgrade
On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 10:42:23PM -0500, Tommy wrote: Stephen Pitts wrote: You don't. Downgrading packages has undefined results. A better option would be to tell the list about your problems and we'll help you fix them -- Currently dselect marks 90% of the package on my system as broken. And there are a lot of them. I tried switching to exim from smail, just to try it. I have constant error messages. Several aps/ games like quake no longer run when not in X and I can not seem to find the requested libraries or get them installed. Fetchmail does not work Most things on the box seem to work fine, but the whole thing seems a little whacked In the hope that my errors will not be repeated by other I will endure the embarrassment of explaining how this happened. My system was running fine off the packages is on my Debian 2.0 cdrom. I decided to upgrade some of the packages via ftp. When I upgraded the package lists of stable, unstable, contrib, and non-free dselect presumed that I wanted to upgrade everything on my system. That everything I had previously installed that had a newer package available was selected for install and included in the download list. This created a serious problem for me because I need the packaging system to warn me about dependencies. If I cancel the download and try to install individual packages via dpkg the required packages will already be marked as selected and no dependency warnings will be given. I tried getting part of the list of aps I wanted to upgrade, but got a ton of error messages for the reasons just cited. Not knowing what else to do I decided to get everything that had been selected. I must say I'm kind of ashamed of this since I really do know better than to hog an ftp site like that, but I really did not know what else to do. Needless to say lots of errors occur when you try to ftp hundreds of mgs of files. Now dselect say 90% of my packages are broken. Far to many to fix one at a time using dpkg. I feel as if I have lost control of my system. I would like to get control back. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank You -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null First off, don't be embarrassed. While trying to nuke a RedHat parition two months ago, I also nuked 700 MB of DATA on a Win98 partition that was mounted. We all screw up sometimes. Here's my advice: Download and install APT, manually if needed, from ftp.debian.org . On my system, it only requires libc6 and libstdc++2.9. I'm pretty sure you've got those. Once that is done, setup your /etc/apt/sources.list. Mine (using ftp.debian.org, the GA TECH mirror) is: deb ftp://ftp.debian.org unstable main contrib non-free Once you've done that, run apt-get -m -f install. That tells APT to grab whatever is needed to fix your system. Don't worry about consuming network bandwidth. You'll only have to do this once. At most, it should take 4 hours on a 28.8 modem. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org
Re: dselect handling stable AND unstable [was Re: forcing dselect to downgrade]
On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 08:01:43PM -0800, George Bonser wrote: On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Rick Macdonald wrote: This is something that I've always wondered about. Can you actually tell dselect about both stable and unstable at the same time? I've always been afraid to do that. Yes, you can do that. Just make sure you go in the order of most stable to least stable. In other words, define stable first then unstable. What do you mean by define them? In /etc/apt/sources.list? (assuming I use apt) -- Jim Foltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACORN techie http://www.acorn.net AOL/IM Jim Foltz
Janet
You are beautiful. Kent
RE: G3
On 04-Mar-99 tracheotomy bob wrote: Hallo all, Has anyone put Debian GNU/Linux onto Apples new G3? Are there any particular issues one should be aware of when putting Debian onto Apples? I've never touched an Apple before so I'm just wondering... thanks We are working on it (we not including me because I can not afford one). The main issue is that EVERYTHING is usb based -- keyboard, mouse, etc. So we need usb support first. It is kind of hard to test something when the keyboard does nto even work (-: We will get there though. BTW new iMac based laptops due in the next 3 - 6 months.
Re: Janet
oops, sorry. ktb wrote: You are beautiful. Kent -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: forcing dselect to downgrade
I have been following your thread you have my sympathy. I'm too ignorant to have any ideas or suggestions. Your problems sound like mine except on a bigger scale. The Debian people keep claiming that dpkg dselect are so great but in my experience they are at best medium in practice. They admit that the interface is not the best but that the basic workingness is very good. And they do seem to be a good place to start from to write something that does work well. And the documentation! Enough said. At 3/4/99 08:42 PM , you wrote: Stephen Pitts wrote: You don't. Downgrading packages has undefined results. A better option would be to tell the list about your problems and we'll help you fix them -- Currently dselect marks 90% of the package on my system as broken. And there are a lot of them. I tried switching to exim from smail, just to try it. I have constant error messages. Several aps/ games like quake no longer run when not in X and I can not seem to find the requested libraries or get them installed. Fetchmail does not work Most things on the box seem to work fine, but the whole thing seems a little whacked In the hope that my errors will not be repeated by other I will endure the embarrassment of explaining how this happened. My system was running fine off the packages is on my Debian 2.0 cdrom. I decided to upgrade some of the packages via ftp. When I upgraded the package lists of stable, unstable, contrib, and non-free dselect presumed that I wanted to upgrade everything on my system. That everything I had previously installed that had a newer package available was selected for install and included in the download list. This created a serious problem for me because I need the packaging system to warn me about dependencies. If I cancel the download and try to install individual packages via dpkg the required packages will already be marked as selected and no dependency warnings will be given. I tried getting part of the list of aps I wanted to upgrade, but got a ton of error messages for the reasons just cited. Not knowing what else to do I decided to get everything that had been selected. I must say I'm kind of ashamed of this since I really do know better than to hog an ftp site like that, but I really did not know what else to do. Needless to say lots of errors occur when you try to ftp hundreds of mgs of files. Now dselect say 90% of my packages are broken. Far to many to fix one at a time using dpkg. I feel as if I have lost control of my system. I would like to get control back. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank You
Re: PPP-Dialup: ioctl(PPPIOCGUNIT): Operation not permitted
I'm in the group dip and all files in /etc/ppp, /etc/ppp.chatscript, pon and poff are owned by dip. A normal Debian installation has no /etc/ppp.chatscript. /etc/chatscripts and /etc/ppp/ should be owned by root but in the dip group: drwx--x--- 2 root dip 1024 Dec 22 17:47 /etc/chatscripts/ drwx--x--- 5 root dip 1024 Feb 20 15:40 /etc/ppp/ The files in /etc/chatscripts/ should be likewise: -rw-r- 1 root dip 176 Oct 29 19:46 provider With the exception of peers, the files in /etc/ppp should be owned by root and in group root: -rw--- 1 root root 69 Mar 1 1998 chap-secrets -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 1454 Feb 25 1998 ip-down drwxr-xr-- 2 root root 1024 Feb 28 16:59 ip-down.d -rwxr--r-- 1 root root 1452 Feb 25 1998 ip-up drwxr-xr-- 2 root root 1024 Feb 28 16:59 ip-up.d -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 85 Mar 1 1997 no_ppp_on_boot -rw--- 1 root root 9678 Dec 5 22:56 options -rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 900 Sep 24 11:02 options.ttyS2 -rw--- 1 root root 385 Sep 28 10:53 pap-secrets drw---x--- 2 root dip 1024 Dec 22 17:47 peers Note that /etc/ppp/peers is owned by root but in group dip. The files in /etc/ppp/peers should be owned by root but in group dip: -rw-r- 1 root dip 217 Dec 5 22:58 provider 'pon' and 'poff' should be owned by root, in group root, and executable by anyone: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2712 Dec 27 15:31 /usr/bin/poff -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 45 Jun 18 1998 /usr/bin/pon pppd should be owned by root, in group dip, and setuid: -rwsr-xr-- 1 root dip105532 Jun 18 1998 /usr/sbin/pppd The entry for dip is only in gshadow, not in passwd or passwd- dip is a group, not a user. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI
Re: Here is some more on deb bus ideas (jc@crack.com) (fwd)
Please explain what kaberos does. I've quite understood it... NatePuri Certified Law Student Debian GNU/Linux Monk McGeorge School of Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ompages.com On 4 Mar 1999, John Hasler wrote: Paul Nathan Puri writes: I'm interested in starting commercial service that offers the set up and maintenance of secure networks under linux (preferably debian). This sounds interesting and I might be interested in getting involved. However, that man you really want to get on board is Bear Giles [EMAIL PROTECTED]. He has packaged kerboros 5. Debian can't distribute it because of the export laws, but your service could certainly use it. -- John HaslerThis posting is in the public domain. [EMAIL PROTECTED]Do with it what you will. Dancing Horse Hill Make money from it if you can; I don't mind. Elmwood, Wisconsin Do not send email advertisements to this address. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Print command
Could anyone tell a newbie the command to print a text file or a man page item, like a file named "vi.1.gz" on a dot matrix printer? I have installed the 'base' system from D/Led floppies (used the 'rescue' disk and installed the drivers disk and the five 'base' disks). During the install, I did install the 'lp' module for the parallel ports. At this point, the 'man' program is either not available or not on the disk. I have been reading some of the man pages using zmore but I don't know how to print or do very much else. I don't have any docs except for what was installed. I'm having a very rough time trying learn how to do things in Debian, I'm good in DOS and Win95 but just beginning to learn Linux. Apparently I have a lot to read and learn before I can get my install to the point I can log onto the web and upgrade to a full system. The few commands I can use I have learned by reading this ng. So far Debian seems to be a great OS with a lot more power than anything I've used in the past, including OS/2 Warp. But the docs are difficult to find and read for a newbie that doesn't have any Unix experience. You could say that Debian is my Unix experience. Is there a list of basic commands for navigation and operations available on the web? The "Howto" pages are great for an in depth explanation of lilo and fips but get a little bit tedious when all I want to do is look at the current fstab or ppp.conf or list a dir. Also, using the 'ls' command, man6 dir doesn't exist and man7 is empty. Is this normal? A Debian geek wannabe is anxious to learn. Thank you.
Re: Print command
Others can give you better answers to your questions but I'll point out a couple of sites, if you haven't found them yet, that might help. At least something to get you by for a few hours:) http://metalab.unc.edu/mdw/LDP/gs/gs.html http://www.debian.org/ http://www.debian.org/doc/ Good luck, Kent Jerry Human wrote: Could anyone tell a newbie the command to print a text file or a man page item, like a file named vi.1.gz on a dot matrix printer? I have installed the 'base' system from D/Led floppies (used the 'rescue' disk and installed the drivers disk and the five 'base' disks). During the install, I did install the 'lp' module for the parallel ports. At this point, the 'man' program is either not available or not on the disk. I have been reading some of the man pages using zmore but I don't know how to print or do very much else. I don't have any docs except for what was installed. I'm having a very rough time trying learn how to do things in Debian, I'm good in DOS and Win95 but just beginning to learn Linux. Apparently I have a lot to read and learn before I can get my install to the point I can log onto the web and upgrade to a full system. The few commands I can use I have learned by reading this ng. So far Debian seems to be a great OS with a lot more power than anything I've used in the past, including OS/2 Warp. But the docs are difficult to find and read for a newbie that doesn't have any Unix experience. You could say that Debian is my Unix experience. Is there a list of basic commands for navigation and operations available on the web? The Howto pages are great for an in depth explanation of lilo and fips but get a little bit tedious when all I want to do is look at the current fstab or ppp.conf or list a dir. Also, using the 'ls' command, man6 dir doesn't exist and man7 is empty. Is this normal? A Debian geek wannabe is anxious to learn. Thank you.
Re: dselect handling stable AND unstable [was Re: forcing dselect to downgrade]
George Bonser wrote: On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Rick Macdonald wrote: This is something that I've always wondered about. Can you actually tell dselect about both stable and unstable at the same time? I've always been afraid to do that. Yes, you can do that. Just make sure you go in the order of most stable to least stable. In other words, define stable first then unstable. So what does it look like in dselect? Right now, with stable, contrib, non-free and non-US, I see, for example: --- available packages in section net --- --- available packages in section non-free/net --- --- available packages in section non-US/net --- --- available packages in section contrib/net --- Does it merge stable and unstable and just show the newest version of each package, or keep them separate so I can choose? -- ...RickM...
Problem Connecting to ISP
Hi, I am having an extremely difficult time trying to connect to the Prodiy ISP. If anyone can help me out I'd appreciate it. I have used everything available trying to connect to thei network but haven't had any luck. Apparently, as soon as I get connected my Debian PPP send the LCP packet but nothing happens after that and the connection times out. Here is what it looks like in my /var/log/messages file. Mar 4 19:57:33 shawn chat[477]: timeout set to 30 seconds Mar 4 19:57:33 shawn chat[477]: abort on (ERROR) Mar 4 19:57:33 shawn chat[477]: abort on (BUSY) Mar 4 19:57:33 shawn chat[477]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Mar 4 19:57:33 shawn chat[477]: abort on (NO DIALTONE) Mar 4 19:57:33 shawn chat[477]: report (CONNECT) Mar 4 19:57:33 shawn chat[477]: send (AT\F^M) Mar 4 19:57:33 shawn chat[477]: expect (OK) Mar 4 19:57:52 shawn chat[477]: ATF^M^M Mar 4 19:57:52 shawn chat[477]: OK Mar 4 19:57:52 shawn chat[477]: -- got it Mar 4 19:57:52 shawn chat[477]: send (ATD7913790^M) Mar 4 19:57:52 shawn chat[477]: timeout set to 75 seconds Mar 4 19:57:52 shawn chat[477]: expect (CONNECT) Mar 4 19:57:52 shawn chat[477]: ^M Mar 4 19:58:22 shawn kernel: PPP: ppp line discipline successfully unregistered Mar 4 19:58:32 shawn chat[477]: ATD7913790^M Mar 4 19:58:32 shawn chat[477]: CONNECT Mar 4 19:58:32 shawn chat[477]: -- got it Mar 4 19:58:32 shawn pppd[476]: Serial connection established. Mar 4 19:58:33 shawn kernel: PPP: version 2.2.0 (dynamic channel allocation) Mar 4 19:58:33 shawn kernel: PPP Dynamic channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc. Mar 4 19:58:33 shawn kernel: PPP line discipline registered. Mar 4 19:58:33 shawn kernel: registered device ppp0 Mar 4 19:58:33 shawn pppd[476]: Using interface ppp0 Mar 4 19:58:33 shawn pppd[476]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS3 Mar 4 19:59:03 shawn pppd[476]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Mar 4 19:59:32 shawn pppd[476]: Hangup (SIGHUP) Mar 4 19:59:32 shawn pppd[476]: Modem hangup Mar 4 19:59:32 shawn pppd[476]: Connection terminated. Mar 4 19:59:33 shawn pppd[476]: Exit. I am using pppsetup to set up my connection. I have all the needed files including, /etc/ppp/ppp.chatscript, /etc/ppp/options, /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/ppp/pap-secrets file. I don't know what the problem could be. If someone is getting on with prodigy or just have some advice please reply. I have the Debian 2.0 dist. Thanks, Shawn Nguyen
Re: dselect handling stable AND unstable [was Re: forcing dselect to downgrade]
George Bonser wrote: On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Rick Macdonald wrote: Does it merge stable and unstable and just show the newest version of each package, Yes. or keep them separate so I can choose? No Hmmm, that doesn't seem much different than if you just define unstable, except for packages that are only in one or the other. The intersection of stable and unstable would just be the same as unstable anyway. Right? -- ...RickM...
Re: please help with backspace
On Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 11:11:12AM +1100, Shao Zhang wrote: Hi, somehow my backspace key does not work in rxvt and Netscape, but it works in xterm. How do I fix this?? xmodmap is your friend. Read the manual page Joop -- Joop Stakenborg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux Hamradio Applications and Utilities Homepage http://www.casema.net/~aba
potato -heyho! message?
I upgraded from hamm to potato yesterday without any trouble, however after the upgrade was completed, I noticed a strange problem. I had several Eterms open when the message heyho! (followed by a newline character) started to be repeatedly printed on one of them. The keyboard did not seem to have any effect (even CTRL-C) and the only way to stop the message from being repeated was to close the Eterm window. That was the second time that this problem occurred. The first time I didn't take much notice of it, so I'm not sure whether it appeared on an xterm or an Eterm. The second time, the problem occurred, I tried ps -a on another terminal while the message was being printed, but I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. Has anybody else experienced this? Does anyone know what it is? Anthony
PPP log message
Dear all, I've been trying to connect to my provider using PPP on my debian machine. Frequent disconnect happened and I have these messages in my /var/log/ppp.log == Mar 5 13:27:11 mariah pppd[314]: Serial connection established. Mar 5 13:27:12 mariah pppd[314]: Using interface ppp0 Mar 5 13:27:12 mariah pppd[314]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1 Mar 5 13:27:12 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xffdb pcomp accomp] Mar 5 13:27:12 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa pcomp accomp 11 04 05 f4 13 09 03 00 c0 7b 7c 36 7e] Mar 5 13:27:12 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 11 04 05 f4 13 09 03 00 c0 7b 7c 36 7e] Mar 5 13:27:12 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0 magic 0xffdb pcomp accomp] Mar 5 13:27:12 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa pcomp accomp] Mar 5 13:27:12 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2 mru 1524 asyncmap 0xa pcomp accomp] Mar 5 13:27:12 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:27:12 mariah pppd[314]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 addr 0.0.0.0 compress VJ 0f 01] Mar 5 13:27:13 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 compress VJ 0f 01 addr 129.94.15.8] Mar 5 13:27:13 mariah pppd[314]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x1 compress VJ 0f 01 addr 129.94.15.8] Mar 5 13:27:13 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [IPXCP ConfReq id=0x1 network 30148 node 00c07b7c367e 03 06 00 02 0f 00 router proto 0 complete] Mar 5 13:27:13 mariah pppd[314]: Unsupported protocol (0x802b) received Mar 5 13:27:13 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP ProtRej id=0x2 80 2b 01 01 00 1e 01 06 00 03 01 48 02 08 00 c0 7b 7c 36 7e 03 06 00 02 0f 00 04 04 00 00 06 02] Mar 5 13:27:13 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:27:13 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x1 addr 129.94.16.168] Mar 5 13:27:13 mariah pppd[314]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2 addr 129.94.16.168 compress VJ 0f 01] Mar 5 13:27:13 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x2 addr 129.94.16.168 compress VJ 0f 01] Mar 5 13:27:13 mariah pppd[314]: Cannot determine ethernet address for proxy ARP Mar 5 13:27:13 mariah pppd[314]: local IP address 129.94.16.168 Mar 5 13:27:13 mariah pppd[314]: remote IP address 129.94.15.8 Mar 5 13:27:42 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x1 magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:27:44 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x1 magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:28:12 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x2 magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:28:13 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x2 magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:28:42 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x3 magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:28:43 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x3 magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:29:12 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x4 magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:29:13 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x4 magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:29:42 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x5 magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:29:43 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x5 magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:30:12 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x6 magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:30:13 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x6 magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:30:43 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x7 magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:30:43 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x7 magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:31:13 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x8 magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:31:13 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x8 magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:31:43 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x9 magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:31:43 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x9 magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:32:13 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xa magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:32:13 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xa magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:32:43 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xb magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:32:43 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xb magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:33:13 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xc magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:33:15 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xc magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:33:43 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xd magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:34:13 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xe magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:34:33 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xd magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:34:34 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xe magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:34:43 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0xf magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:34:44 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0xf magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:35:13 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x10 magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:35:13 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x10 magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:35:43 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x11 magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:35:43 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x11 magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:36:13 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x12 magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:36:13 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x12 magic=0x0] Mar 5 13:36:43 mariah pppd[314]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x13 magic=0xffdb] Mar 5 13:36:43 mariah pppd[314]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep
Howto install Debian 2.0/2.1 on my Laptop
I have problems installing Debian GNU/Linux 2.0 or 2.1on my IBM Thinkpad 600 its a PII300mhz , 64mbram, Neomagic 128XD 5.1GB IDE. I booted up with hamm resc1440.bin and it starts booting. After the Loading Linux... the machine hangs.. it justs stands there.. with the loading linux. on the screen. I tried to press enter but nothing happens, Ctrl + Alt + Delete works either.. have to shut the power down. Have tried with tecra,safe disks.. all are same. Autobooted from hamm cd also but no success. Redhat 5.2 works fine. but i want Debian ;) Please help.. i really want to wipe out windows from this laptop and go into the lovely world of Linux. Mats Mattila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipmasqadm question
On Thu, 04 Mar 1999 20:24:38 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe ipfwadm only works with kernels 2.1.90 or so. The reading I get from the kernel source with 2.2.1 is that ipmasqadm is required. You're right. ipfwadm is obsolete for 2.2.x kernels. Ralf -- Ralf G. R. Bergs * Welkenrather Str. 100/102 * 52074 Aachen * Germany +49-241-876892, +49-241-86 (fax) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * PGP ok! Sign the EU petition against SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/
Please HELP ME AGAIN!!!
Please Help me again! Thanks for helping me with mounting, but now I would like to ask you another thing. How can I setup my sound card(Sound Blaster 16)? I have heard something about make menuconfig make config but this doesn't work in my computer. A error message appears saying no target to make rule config. How can I solve this problem. I have heard something about compiling the kernel, how? Thanks again! __ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - http://orders.xoom.com/email
Re: Please HELP ME AGAIN!!!
Item Subject: Please HELP ME AGAIN!!! try changing your directory :-) Stefan __ Reply Separator _ Subject: Please HELP ME AGAIN!!! Author: Non-HP-nunodonato ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) at HP-Germany,shargw6 Date:3/5/99 10:13 AM Please Help me again! Thanks for helping me with mounting, but now I would like to ask you another thing. How can I setup my sound card(Sound Blaster 16)? I have heard something about make menuconfig make config but this doesn't work in my computer. A error message appears saying no target to make rule config. How can I solve this problem. I have heard something about compiling the kernel, how? Thanks again! __ Get your free web-based email at http://www.xoom.com SPECIAL OFFER: 250 Web Site Templates, Only $29.95! - http://orders.xoom.com/email -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/nu ll
Re: forcing dselect to downgrade
Marshall Savage wrote: I have been following your thread you have my sympathy. I'm too ignorant to have any ideas or suggestions. Your problems sound like mine except on a bigger scale. The Debian people keep claiming that dpkg dselect are so great but in my experience they are at best medium in practice. They admit that the interface is not the best but that the basic workingness is very good. And they do seem to be a good place to start from to write something that does work well. And the documentation! Enough said. Actually I think dselect is pretty good. It was just designed for when Gnu/Debian was much smaller and had much fewer applications. In my case it probably should not have assumed that I wanted to upgrade everything, but not doing that could create different kinds of problems It is very difficult to write an installation / administration interface that helps the beginner / novice run a stable system, but at the same time not take away the power and control that more advanced users want and need. And when you consider that ideally people are going to progress step by step from beginner to expert the difficulty of writing such a usable interface seems quite great. There are just some really fundamental problems when beginners are system administrators. Tom
Re: ipmasqadm question
On Thu, 04 Mar 1999 19:52:34 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I checked with dselect and found I have ipmasq 3.3.1 installed already. There is NO sign of ipmasqadm on my system anywhere. I have run 'find / -name ipmasqadm' with no hits. I do appreciate your help. Please don't stop now, but I am in no big hurry. Perhaps there are others out there that have the needed info. Ok, another day, another try. :-) Here's the info you want, but you may not like it: #dpkg -S ipmasqadm netbase: /usr/sbin/ipmasqadm [...] #dpkg -l netbase Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status, ||/ NameVersionDescription +++-===-==-= ii netbase 3.12-2 Basic TCP/IP networking binaries As you see it's the unstable version of netbase. Don't worry you can install it without having to fear that it breaks your system (at least it didn't on my system ;-) Danke, (sp?) You're welcome. (The spelling of Danke is right. :-) Ralf -- Ralf G. R. Bergs * Welkenrather Str. 100/102 * 52074 Aachen * Germany +49-241-876892, +49-241-86 (fax) * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * PGP ok! Sign the EU petition against SPAM: http://www.politik-digital.de/spam/
Problem with dselect
hello, when I install the latest version of linux (debian) from a CDROM eveything works good until it begins with dselect. It ask me for the source and I tell it CDROM, after it ask me for the block device type and it is imposible to go ahead. I try some things like this: /dev/hdb but it say that the kernel do not support the iso9660 norm. I do not understand because it make the all instalation from the CDROM. If I execute a shell I can't mount the CDROM and it tell me the same thing about the iso norm even if I mount it with the next command: mount /dev/hdb -t iso9660 /cdrom Last year with the same computer I could install an older version of debian. Now I can't install the same version. The only thing that difers from before is that I have install a CDROM writer. I have a pentium 166MMX. Notes: - I can install the latest version of RED HAT and after I can mount perfectly the CDROM but I prefer to install the Debian distribution. - Somebody told me that probably the iso9660 file system is configured as a module but I couldn't do anything wiyh the insmod command. May be I don't do it well. Thanks a lot.
Re: Problem Connecting to ISP
On Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 08:29:26PM -, Shawn Nguyen wrote: I am having an extremely difficult time trying to connect to the Prodiy ISP. Mar 4 19:58:32 shawn chat[477]: ATD7913790^M Mar 4 19:58:32 shawn chat[477]: CONNECT Mar 4 19:58:32 shawn chat[477]: -- got it ok so far Mar 4 19:58:33 shawn pppd[476]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS3 Mar 4 19:59:03 shawn pppd[476]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests This means, the other site hasn't yet switched to a PPP connection. Login to their site with minicom and see what appears on the screen. Maybe they present a menu where PPP must be selected, maybe they wait for a simple Return,... Might be helpful to see their instruction how to setup an internet connection under windows, they'll surely provide those. Nils -- Plug-and-Play is really nice, unfortunately it only works 50% of the time. To be specific the Plug almost always works.--unknown source pgpmIHkEVBQSF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Please HELP ME AGAIN!!!
On Fri, 5 Mar 1999, Nuno Donato wrote: How can I setup my sound card(Sound Blaster 16)? I have heard something about make menuconfig make config but this doesn't work in my computer. A error message appears saying no target to make rule config. How can I solve this problem. I have heard something about compiling the kernel, how? change dir `cd /usr/src/kernel-source2.x.x` (the x is your kernel version). type `make menuconfig` that should get you started, but before you do that, please read some howto:s or something about how to do it, you get a lot of alternatives how to configure the kernel, I can not tell you what you need and dont need. If you make modules remember to fix the module dependencys `depmod -a` and how to edit the lilo.conf in /etc. Try man `lilo.conf`. After you have done all that, type `lilo` to install the new kernel, but keep your old one, thats a good thing. (I hope you understand my english) Lieberman's Law: Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter since nobody listens. Contact me? Try [EMAIL PROTECTED] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://www.big.du.se/~pow/contact_page.html
APT: packages held back
Hi, Yesterday I wondered how much MBs I'd have to download to upgrade my hamm system (plus *some* slink stuff in there) to slink, so I set my sources.list and did 'apt-get update' + 'apt-get upgrade' (and answered 'no' ;). This showed numerous packages as being 'kept back': The following packages have been kept back zgv libtiff3g-dev mc most aalib1 lynx eeyes xv ncftp gnome-panel xbase aumix elvis g++ util-linux imlib-progs xemacs20-nomule tk8.0 minicom jdk1.1-dev apache transfig whiptail libreadlineg2-dev dialog gnome-utils tk8.0-dev libobgnome0 octave screen tcl8.0-dev libgtkxmhtml0 xemacs20-bin tcl8.0 xdelta bsdmainutils libjpeg-progs egcc ddd xserver-common ncurses-bin gdb netstd bash libtiff3g kbd xpaint gnome-core libgpmg1 procps joe dpkg cftp libobgtk1 gpm libgnome0 gimp tcsh-i18n statserial bc ae less lftp rpm libreadlineg2 tcsh tya Now to my understanding this means that these packages *are* already installed, but will not be upgraded to the versions in slink because of some potential dependency/conflict problems. What kind of effect will this have on my system? How to find out what kind of conflicts there are, and how to go about to fix them? I also have a remark concerning the current apt package in slink: Although the man-pages refer to documentation in /usr/doc/apt (ie. guide.text.gz), these documents are no longer available. My previous version of apt (0.16-1 I think, pretty old), did have these docs in the package. Could this be considered as a bug? Maarten -- Maarten Boekhold, [EMAIL PROTECTED] TIBCO Finance Technology Inc. The Atrium Strawinskylaan 3051 1077 ZX Amsterdam, The Netherlands tel: +31 20 3012158, fax: +31 20 3012358 http://www.tibco.com
Help w Xemacs and hscroll-mode
I have hscroll-mode in emacs but don't appear to have it in Xemacs 20.4. What happened to this mode and how do I get it back into Xemacs 20.4? also, when I start emacs the first time I type a character I get an error 'while opening UMTP file: no such file or directory' but if I scroll down a page the error goes away and I am able to type. How can I stop this error from appearing? It doesn't really prevent me from doing anything it is just annoying because I always have to scroll down a page to see what I am doing because it inserts this error right at my insertion point. Lance
Using Procmail - mail won't deliver to Default
in .procmailrc SHELL = /bin/sh MAILDIR =$HOME/Mail LOGFILE =$HOME/_logfile VERBOSE = yes LOGABSTRACT = no PATH = /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/bin/mh DEFAULT=Inbox #ORGMAIL=/var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME but mail does not go to Inbox. I have also tried DEFAULT /$HOME/Mail/Inbox and #Default I am getting the _logfile so what have I got wrong in the syntax to prevent me from getting mail in /$HOME/Mail/Inbox. There is an Inbox in /Mail. Lance
Booting
Hi, When I installed Debian I put it on my second hard drive and didn't make it bootable but instead just made a boot floppy as I wasn't familiar with Lilo or Loadlin but now I want to make the hard drive bootable. How do I do this at this point? Do I need to re-install or what? Thanks. Doug Dine [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.xoom.com/dougdine http://members.xoom.com/loveless NetZero - We believe in a FREE Internet. Shouldn't you? Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at http://www.netzero.net/download.html
Re: backspace behaviour
I have never had this problem at home, but now it happens to me at work. My backspace does not work in Netscape, only the delete key. My backspace does not work in rxvt and nor the delete key. Hi, did you install kde 1.1? uncomment ! i386 and alpha keycode 22 = BackSpace keycode 107 = Delete in /etc/X11/Xmodmap and restart your X server. (or install your personal .xmodmap) Regards, Thomas
Exim configuration
What do I need to add to exim.conf to be able to send mail. I have a PPP connection to a provider and use fetchmail to get mail but I cannot send mail except through netscape. In /var/log/exim/mainlog.01 SMTP error from remote mailer after Mail From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SIZE=2522: host smtp-gw01.ibm.net Unresolvable domain name What is this error telling me?
Re: fetchmail
I don't think -k on its own is what you're looking for. This keeps messages on the remote server, but marks them as read. However, it may be of some use in conjunction with the -a (fetchall) option. This makes fetchmail fetch all messages, including those marked as read. HTH Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: fetchmail Date: Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 10:28:33PM +1100 In reply to:Shao Zhang Quoting Shao Zhang([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Sorry, I did not describe what I want very clear. What I need is to leave them as Unread on the pop3 server. I retrieve them from pop3 at work, I want those mails still set to unread when I retrieve them for the second time, I still know what are the new messages I checked earlier at work. I guess I am trying to get it working more similar to an IMAP server. thx man fetchmail says -k -- Real programmers don't write in FORTRAN. FORTRAN is for pipe stress freaks and crystallography weenies. FORTRAN is for wimp engineers who wear white socks. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
FrameBuffer - keyboard problems
hi, I have an S3 Trio3D video card so i had to use the framebuffer device if i wanted a 1024x768 display. Now i have some anoying keyboard problems. I can't use the AltGr key anymore (it has become left-key). So any key like |@#{}[]`\ i cannot use anymore in X. The PgUp/PgDn and some other keys aren't working either, but i could solve this with xmodmap. Though some people said me this is not a good sollution. I got the keyboard section from sombody with the same videocard and was also using Framebuffer device and had the same problems. For him this was a sollution, for me not. This is my keyboard section for the moment: Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard #Standard|Xqueue # XkbDisable AutoRepeat 500 5 LeftAlt Meta RightAltModeShift ScrollLock Compose RightCtlControl XkbRulesxfree86 XkbModelpc101 #pc101|pc102|xfree86|microsoft XkbLayout be EndSection Any help? -- Bernhard DobbelsStudent Electronic Engineer option Automation and Computersystems. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 25783372
Long filenames on cdr
Hi, I've tried the joliet extention, but aparently, when i mount the cdimage, the filenames are cutoff at 32 characters. Any ideas? -- Bernhard DobbelsStudent Electronic Engineer option Automation and Computersystems. E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 25783372
Re: ipmasqadm question
Subject: ipmasqadm question Date: Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 01:25:07PM -0600 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello all, I seem to be lost on this issue, but here goes. I am running a mostly slink system with a 2.2.1 kernel. How do I enable port forwarding with this setup? I have the kernel built correctly, (I believe), so I am not concerned in that area. My question has to do with the tool(s) used to manage the port forwarding. It looks like the ipportfw tool only works with a kernel 2.1.90. I have read that the tool I am looking for is called ipmasqadm, found at: http://juanjox.linuxhq.com/ I have found the RH RPM at this site, along with the source code for this tool. My first try at compiling and installing was unsuccessful. (I have not put too much effort into this approach yet). GREAT Firewall/masquerading INFO Site http://rlz.ne.mediaone.net/linux/firewall/ -- | LINUX - Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste..on WinDoze | ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Print command
Subject: Print command Date: Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 12:54:20AM -0500 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Could anyone tell a newbie the command to print a text file or a man page item, like a file named vi.1.gz on a dot matrix printer? I have installed the 'base' system from D/Led floppies (used the 'rescue' disk and installed the drivers disk and the five 'base' disks). During the install, I did install the 'lp' module for the parallel ports. At this point, the 'man' program is either not available or not on the disk. I have been reading some of the man pages using zmore but I don't know how to print or do very much else. I don't have any docs except for what was installed. I'm having a very rough time trying learn how to do things in Debian, I'm good in DOS and Win95 but just beginning to learn Linux. Apparently I have a lot to read and learn before I can get my install to the point I can log onto the web and upgrade to a full system. The few commands I can use I have learned by reading this ng. So far Debian seems to be a great OS with a lot more power than anything I've used in the past, including OS/2 Warp. But the docs are difficult to find and read for a newbie that doesn't have any Unix experience. You could say that Debian is my Unix experience. Is there a list of basic commands for navigation and operations available on the web? The Howto pages are great for an in depth explanation of lilo and fips but get a little bit tedious when all I want to do is look at the current fstab or ppp.conf or list a dir. Also, using the 'ls' command, man6 dir doesn't exist and man7 is empty. Is this normal? A Debian geek wannabe is anxious to learn. Thank you. 1. Look for a directory called howto. (find / -type d -iname howto) 2. Look at Printing-HOWTO, Printing-Usage-howto. 3. If you haven't yet downloaded the magicfilter package, do. 4. If you have not yet downloaded the a2ps package, do. 5. Grin as you print out whatever you want. HTH -- Real Users find the one combination of bizarre input values that shuts down the system for days. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
But TECO was the greatest, most programmable, powerful editor ever. If only it had run on a *NIX OS :-( - I remember when working at DEC being told that teco was more than an editor, it was a language. Infact someone had written a StarTrek game in teco. (They also wrote a startrek game in Cobol ... YUCK!) == Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: FrameBuffer - keyboard problems
On Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 01:52:22PM +0100, Bernhard Dobbels wrote: I have an S3 Trio3D video card so i had to use the framebuffer device if i wanted a 1024x768 display. Now i have some anoying keyboard problems. I can't use the AltGr key anymore (it has become left-key). So any key like |@#{}[]`\ i cannot use anymore in X. The PgUp/PgDn and some other keys aren't working either, but i could solve this with xmodmap. Though some people said me this is not a good sollution. I got the keyboard section from sombody with the same videocard and was also using Framebuffer device and had the same problems. For him this was a sollution, for me not. This is my keyboard section for the moment: Section Keyboard ProtocolStandard #Standard|Xqueue # XkbDisable AutoRepeat 500 5 LeftAlt Meta RightAltModeShift If you want AltGr to do the same as Alt, change that to Meta ScrollLock Compose RightCtlControl XkbRulesxfree86 XkbModelpc101 #pc101|pc102|xfree86|microsoft If it's a standard pc keyboard (or shudder a windows 95 one) that should be pc102 XkbLayout be EndSection Any help? The rest is the same as mine, but I also have the following lines: XkbKeycodes xfree86 XkbTypesdefault XkbCompat default XkbSymbols us(pc101) XkbGeometry pc They were all put there by XF86Setup; I don't know what difference they make. Hope that helps, Matt -- Matt Folwell, P2 Whewell's Court, Trinity College, Cambridge. CB2 1TQ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can Windows95 cause error on my Linux Drive.
Windows and Linux can co-exist on the same disk drive without problems. I have windows 95 and debian on different partitions of the same disk. Windows / dos will ignore partition types 81, 82 ,83 etc. What you need to do is to first partition the virgin disk under windows (leaving room for linux!) then add your linux partitions using linux fdisk. The reason is to insure that MS fdisk doesn't do the job wrong and grab part of the linux partitions. (I have heard that MS fdisk can try to make partitions not using whole number of cylinders while linux fdisk always rounds up to a whole cylinder.) Also installing windows first allows you to set up lilo to use the MBA and boot windows as the second (or first) choice. (Seems weird having lilo boot windows by default, but I have done this!). == Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
re: Cheap pnp ne2000 Lan cards
. I bought some cheap PNP ide ne2000 compatible crds to setup a small net work. My bios does not seeem to recognise the cards, but it does see my pnp sound card. Is there anything I can do via debian to use these cards? The cards are made by LanStar. They were only $12 each so it won't break me if they are junk. But any help is appreciated. By the way I only have or use Gnu/Debian, so a solution involving other os's is not viable. Thanks -- I assume they are Isa cards. PCI cards shouldn't do this! We had a similar problem here. By first putting the cards in a different computer (with a bios that would find the cardsyour problem IS THE BIOS!) we ran the dos configure utility that came with the cards. Then the card was yanked out and put in the first computer...where it now worked! I guess there is flash rom on the card that must be programed first before it will work. == Amateur Radio, when all else fails! http://www.qsl.net/wa2mze Debian Gnu Linux, Live Free or . _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Using Procmail - mail won't deliver to Default
Subject: Using Procmail - mail won't deliver to Default Date: Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 06:14:13AM -0600 In reply to:Lance Hoffmeyer Quoting Lance Hoffmeyer([EMAIL PROTECTED]): in .procmailrc SHELL = /bin/sh MAILDIR =$HOME/Mail LOGFILE =$HOME/_logfile VERBOSE = yes LOGABSTRACT = no PATH = /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/bin/mh DEFAULT=Inbox #ORGMAIL=/var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME but mail does not go to Inbox. I have also tried DEFAULT /$HOME/Mail/Inbox and #Default I am getting the _logfile so what have I got wrong in the syntax to prevent me from getting mail in /$HOME/Mail/Inbox. There is an Inbox in /Mail. Lance The answer to the above can be found in man procmailrc. Reading the man pages answers 50%i, or more, of questions people post to mailing lists and newsgroups. In says past asking questions like the above would have received the response RTFM. Times are changing, some. -- The Softwære said Windows 95 or better, so I dumped Win95 loaded LINUX. I have not looked back since. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please HELP ME AGAIN!!!
Subject: Please HELP ME AGAIN!!! Date: Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 01:13:31AM -0800 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Please Help me again! Thanks for helping me with mounting, but now I would like to ask you another thing. How can I setup my sound card(Sound Blaster 16)? I have heard something about make menuconfig make config but this doesn't work in my computer. A error message appears saying no target to make rule config. How can I solve this problem. I have heard something about compiling the kernel, how? Thanks again! #1 requirement for a Linux newbie. Read the DOC's! In this case The Linux Kernel HOWTO. Some research on your part might save you some embarrassment and lead to more people responding to message subjects that indicate you have not tried to help yourself, first. -- Using TSO is like kicking a dead whale down the beach. -- S. C. Johnson ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: potato -heyho! message?
Subject: potato -heyho! message? Date: Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 04:43:28PM +0900 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I upgraded from hamm to potato yesterday without any trouble, however after the upgrade was completed, I noticed a strange problem. I had several Eterms open when the message heyho! (followed by a newline character) started to be repeatedly printed on one of them. The keyboard did not seem to have any effect (even CTRL-C) and the only way to stop the message from being repeated was to close the Eterm window. That was the second time that this problem occurred. The first time I didn't take much notice of it, so I'm not sure whether it appeared on an xterm or an Eterm. The second time, the problem occurred, I tried ps -a on another terminal while the message was being printed, but I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. Has anybody else experienced this? Does anyone know what it is? Anthony I can offer a thought. Did you load any packages to use X10 devices? Maybe xtend? If so there is a package called 'heyu' which is used to talk to an X10 controller. That 'might' be what you are seeing. HTH -- A LISP programmer knows the value of everything, but the cost of nothing. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PPP log message
ivan writes: Is this normal? Your ppp.log looks quite normal. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI