RE: diald

2000-05-22 Thread 2070718
= Original Message From Andres Seco Hernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Hola

El 21 May 2000 a las 11:03PM +0200, Javier Fafián Alvarez escribio:
  Sin mucha convicción por mi parte, creo que estás equivocado. Me parece
  que lo que para es el ppp0 porque la conexión se ha caido (lineas
  anteriores del log) y arranca de nuevo el sl0 porque es el interface
proxy
  de diald que está como default gateway cuando no estás conectado a
  internet.

 No sabía yo eso del sl0, pensaba que era un dispositivo erroneo, entonces:
¿
 Por qué dice: stop ppp0: SIOCDELRT: No such process ?, ¿ querrá decir que
lo
 intentó lanzar y no fue capaz ?, quizá por permisos o algo así ? :-m

No te puedo decir. Siempre me ha funcionado diald y no te creas que tengo
muy claro porqué falla a los que os falla, pero me arriesgaría a decir que
el SIOCDELRT es algo así como un error al borrar la ruta tras desaparecer
el interfaz (seguramente usas kernel 2.2 y en estos no hay que establecer
la ruta para la red de una interfaz cuando lo creas, y supongo que tambien
cuando lo borras), pero no creo que ese sea el problema. Esto es posterior
al corte de la linea. Me inclino por problemas en la autentificación por
parte de tu proveedor.

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Re: MP3 encoder

2000-05-22 Thread Jesus M. Gonzalez-Barahona

Jaime E. Villate writes:
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
   Por favor decidme que no estoy ciego y que en potato
   no hay ningún mp3-encoder, porque no consigo encontrar
   ninguno.
  Parece que no hay ninguno libre que pueda se incluído en Debian; mira lo
  que dice el README del paquete cdgrab:

Si no recuerdo mal cuando se discutió esto en debian-devel, el 
problema está en que hay varios paises donde hay patentes sobre
técnicas software que son necesarias para codificar en MP3 (entre
ellos, EEUU y Alemania). La validez de estas patentes, especialmente
la alemana, es más que discutible, pero la gente de Debian, para
evitar posibles problemas legales, optaron por no incluir estos
paquetes en la dsitribución.

¿No sabías los problemas que pueden causarnos las patentes
software? Aquí tienes una de sus primeras consecuencias :-(

Jesus.

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Re: LILO y otras cosas de portatiles

2000-05-22 Thread Jaime E. Villate
SKaVeN wrote:
 ¿que portatil tienes? en el mio la bzImages no dan ningun problema
Un Toshiba Satellite 4010CDS; pero como ya he dicho en otro mensaje, el
núcleo 2.2 ya funciona perfectamente como bzimage

 NPI. Y ya que hablamos de portatiles, ¿te funciona bien el tema de APM?. A
 mi me cuelga la máquina
Me funciona perfectamente. Tanto para apagar como para entrar en modo
suspend (realmente ya nunca apago el portátil). ¿Has intentado con las
varias opciones que hay en la configuración del núcleo? me acuerdo por
ahí de unas 3 opciones que dicen que se deben activar para algunos casos
en que el APM da problemas.

Lo único extraño que he visto es que siempre que entro en el modo
suspend me sale un mensaje apm: busy: Parameter out of range que no he
descubierto que significa pero tampoco parece causar ningún problema. La
tarjeta de sonido dejaba de funcionar bien después de salir del modo
suspend, pero le puse lo siguiente en /etc/pcmcia/network.opts y ahora
funciona muy bien:
# Extra stuff to do before shutting down the interface
stop_fn ()
{
modprobe -r opl3sa2 opl3 sound;
return;
}
(esos 3 módulos son los que usa mi tarjeta de sonido).
Saludos,
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sources.list de apt

2000-05-22 Thread Luis Taboada
Hola debiandantes,

  ¿Sabe alguien si tiene alguna restricción el fichero sources.list de
  apt?

  Me refiero a un nº máximo de entradas en el fichero, o que deban
  agrupadas por tipo, o que tengan que aparecer los diferentes tipos
  en cierto orden( cdrom, http, ftp, ... )

  El problema es que cuando ejecuto la fase instalar de dselect, o
  el apt-get dselect-update se me queda como colgado después de
  indicarme los paquetes que se van a instalar o actualizar, sin
  llegar a indicarme la cantidad de bytes que se van a descargar y sin
  preguntarme si quiero proceder o no.

  Si comento las entradas de 'cdrom', parece que todo se arregla y
  funciona.


Saludos,
 Luis  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




gnome en potato

2000-05-22 Thread Luis Taboada
Hola a todos,

  He instalado la versión de Helixcode-Gnome que indicásteis en la
  lista hace unos días, y se la ve muy muy hermosota. Pero tengo
  algunas dudas:

  1) Tanto en esta versión como en la que viene con potato, cada vez
  que arranco algún proceso manejado por gnome, aparece una entrada
  en la xconsole que dice algo así como neighborn table overflow.

  No casca nada, pero el arranque de los procesos se ralentiza mucho.


  2) Me gustaría poder tener la ventana xconsole arrancada desde gdm,
  pero no he conseguido hacerlo. En la ayuda de gdm especifica que
  deberían introducirse entradas en unos directerios pre.. y
  pos... para arrancar lo que queramos. Mi duda es si aquí deben ir
  enlaces a los que queramos ejecutar o deben ser ficheros de scripts en
  los que podemos incluir en un solo fichero todo lo que queremos
  arrancar.



Saludos,
 Luis  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: ver peliculas DVD

2000-05-22 Thread Jordi Mallach
[ CC a debian-user-spanish, por si alguien pensaba que estoy gilipollas al
  decir lo de software ilegal ]

On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 09:29:33AM +0200, Juanma wrote:
 Con Software Ilegal, escrito por crackers que operan a lo largo y ancho de
 internet.
 Pero bueno (y esto es opinión), Si yo compro una peli en DVD, la pago, y la
 intento ejecutar en el ordenador ¿quién me lo puede impedir?. Joer, estoy
 harto de tantas trabas buocráticas. No se donde vamos a llegar.
 Aparte me entero que los DVDs de una zona no se pueden ver en otra zona.
 Me dejas a cuadros porque no sabía que debía hacerse con software ilegal.
 ¿no crees que es injusto?

Bueno, lo de Software Ilegal y los crackers lo decía un poco en plan
irónico, por todo el tema de la detención de Jon. Haz una búsqueda en
BarraPunto sobre DVD y te enterarás de toda la movida: un chico noruego
consiguió romper el la codificación de los DVD's, permitiendo que se
pudiesen hacer lectores libres para cualquier sistema operativo. Esto no
gustó a la industria, que le pusieron denuncia, lo detuvieron, etc. Por
supuesto, el software que escribió se replicó y está disponible en
innumerables sitios. Ilegal? Ellos dicen que por culpa de este chico ahora
se puede piratear los DVD's, cosa que era perfectamente posible antes del
DeCSS.

 En fin, he estado mirando en las direcciones que dices, pero no se si soy un
 burro pero no se cómo hacerlo ¿tienes alguna idea o algún pequeño howto de
 cómo piratear el DVD? te lo agradezco.

Creo que había un DVD-Howto?

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Re: Correo de Microsoft en Debian

2000-05-22 Thread Camilo Alejandro Arboleda
Hola:
 Si no estoy mal microsoft utiliza un protocolo denominado x.400 para
 repartir el correo interno utilizando Exchante, si lo que quiere es
 remplazar este servicio me imagino que le tocara buscarse un servidor de
 correo sobre este protocolo o algo asi, de cualquier manera smtp es
 estandar para Internet y es la opcion mas facil de configurar,
 aunque imap tambien es bastante bueno.

Justamente como dije antes, lo que no quieren es cambiar, pero al menos
ya tengo alguna idea del protocolo que microsoft usa. :)

Gracias,

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¿se apagan los athlon?

2000-05-22 Thread 31
no consigo que se me apage el athlon, ¿alguno conseguís apagarlo?
uso el kernel 2.3.99-pre8
con poweroff, halt -p...se quedana en Power off y luego lo tengo que
apagar en le boton y con init 0 reinicia...



Re: teclado en griego clásico

2000-05-22 Thread Correcaminos

~

El lunes, 22 de mayo del 2000, a las 09:32,
Juanma dijo: teclado en griego clásico

_

 Saludos a todos.
 
 Hay un profesor de filosofía clásica que me hace esta pregunta, el cómo
 adaptar un teclado normal a las letras del griego clásico (no el moderno) y
 es que trabaja en el guindos y me dice que tiene serias dificultades para
 escribir en esa lengua.
 
 ¿sabeis cómo se podría hacer?

Tendrias que remapear un teclado completo, a mucho que me equivoque. 

De todas formas, sé de alguien que tambien es profesor de Griego y
que lleva mirando este tema hace tiempo :)

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Re: gnome en potato

2000-05-22 Thread Correcaminos

~

El lunes, 22 de mayo del 2000, a las 12:06,
Luis Taboada dijo: gnome en potato

_

 Hola a todos,
 
   He instalado la versión de Helixcode-Gnome que indicásteis en la
   lista hace unos días, y se la ve muy muy hermosota. Pero tengo
   algunas dudas:
 
   1) Tanto en esta versión como en la que viene con potato, cada vez
   que arranco algún proceso manejado por gnome, aparece una entrada
   en la xconsole que dice algo así como neighborn table overflow.
 
   No casca nada, pero el arranque de los procesos se ralentiza mucho.

¿Hay versión del Helix para Potato ...? 
 
   2) Me gustaría poder tener la ventana xconsole arrancada desde gdm,
   pero no he conseguido hacerlo. En la ayuda de gdm especifica que
   deberían introducirse entradas en unos directerios pre.. y
   pos... para arrancar lo que queramos. Mi duda es si aquí deben ir
   enlaces a los que queramos ejecutar o deben ser ficheros de scripts en
   los que podemos incluir en un solo fichero todo lo que queremos
   arrancar.

Mirate en /etc/gdm/Init/Default

Te adjunto el mio, como referencia :)

##
#!/bin/bash

## Arrancamos un fondo móvil
## elegir el que se prefiera...
## export FONDO=nice -19 atlantis -root -count 5 -delay 3 -whalespeed 
250;export PROGRAMA=atlantis
## export FONDO=nice -19 ripples -root -water -light 6;export PROGRAMA=ripples
## export FONDO=nice -19 xmatrix -root;export PROGRAMA=xmatrix
export FONDO=nice -19 xfishtank -c CadetBlue4 -b 8 -f 7 -r .1 -d; export 
PROGRAMA=xfishtank

## Descomentar esto para seguir
$FONDO 
echo `pidof $PROGRAMA`  /tmp/.pid_fondo

# Activar el modo de ahorro de energia...
# ¡Cuidado por si el Gnome toma el control de esto...!
xset dpms 600 900 1200 b 100 400 c 50 s 300 r on

## Color de fondo para el GDM
## Si tenemos un fondo móvil, lo desactivamos...
/usr/bin/X11/xsetroot -solid #00 
##

En fin, espero que te diviertas :)

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Re: ¿se apagan los athlon?

2000-05-22 Thread Correcaminos

~

El lunes, 22 de mayo del 2000, a las 01:19,
31 dijo: ¿se apagan los athlon?

_

 no consigo que se me apage el athlon, ¿alguno conseguís apagarlo?
 uso el kernel 2.3.99-pre8
 con poweroff, halt -p...se quedana en Power off y luego lo tengo que
 apagar en le boton y con init 0 reinicia...

Doy por hecho que has recompilado el kernel para darle soporte al
apm, ¿no?

Saludos :)

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Problemas imprimiendo ASCII

2000-05-22 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
Holas.

Hace poco pregunté cómo imprimir en econofast con una HP serie 800 color y
ya está todo a punto pero hoy al imprimir correos dede mutt me he dado cuen
de que no me imprime acentos, he investigado el filtro que uso pero no doy
con la tecla. 

¿Puede ayudarme alguien?, gracias.

Por cierto, ¿cómo le digo al mutt que quiero imprimir con la opción de lpr
'-Ploquesea'?. no es algo que me preocupe pues imprimir correos con mutt los
imprimiré con el filtro por defecto que es borrador en blanco y negro pero
tengo esa curiosidad.

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Re[2]: gnome en potato

2000-05-22 Thread Luis Taboada
 Hola a todos,

   He instalado la versión de Helixcode-Gnome que indicásteis en la
   lista hace unos días, y se la ve muy muy hermosota. Pero tengo
   algunas dudas:

   1) Tanto en esta versión como en la que viene con potato, cada vez
   que arranco algún proceso manejado por gnome, aparece una entrada
   en la xconsole que dice algo así como neighborn table overflow.

   No casca nada, pero el arranque de los procesos se ralentiza mucho.

Correcaminos ¿Hay versión del Helix para Potato ...?

Me refería a la versión que viene con potato, que no es Helix, en la
que me pasa lo mismo que en en la de Helixcode para woody.

Saludos,
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Re: Problemas imprimiendo ASCII

2000-05-22 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 01:12:12PM +0200, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez wrote:
 Por cierto, ¿cómo le digo al mutt que quiero imprimir con la opción de lpr
 '-Ploquesea'?. no es algo que me preocupe pues imprimir correos con mutt los
 imprimiré con el filtro por defecto que es borrador en blanco y negro pero
 tengo esa curiosidad.

set print_cmd=lpr

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Re: Problemas imprimiendo ASCII

2000-05-22 Thread Correcaminos

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El lunes, 22 de mayo del 2000, a las 01:12,
Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez dijo: Problemas imprimiendo ASCII

_

 Holas.

Hombre !!! :)
 
 Hace poco pregunté cómo imprimir en econofast con una HP serie 800 color y
 ya está todo a punto pero hoy al imprimir correos dede mutt me he dado cuen
 de que no me imprime acentos, he investigado el filtro que uso pero no doy
 con la tecla. 

No se si te ayudará, per a veces hago esto:

alias lpC850='recode iso-8859-1:cp850|lpr'

A lo mejor solo es eso ;)

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Re: teclado en griego clásico

2000-05-22 Thread jrfern
On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 09:32:06AM +0200, Juanma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hay un profesor de filosofía clásica que me hace esta pregunta, el cómo
 adaptar un teclado normal a las letras del griego clásico (no el moderno) y
 es que trabaja en el guindos y me dice que tiene serias dificultades para
 escribir en esa lengua.
 
 ¿sabeis cómo se podría hacer?
Si utilizara linux ya estaría hecho, por ejemplo: 
1. (modo fácil) un editor utf-8 con mapas de teclado, YUDIT. En la 
página original http://www.yudit.org/download.html
está el mapa de teclado para el español que he hecho. 
Para griego clásico tienes Greek.kmap, GreekBible.kmap y Polytonic.kmap.
Yudit permite escribir los caracteres de cualquier idioma con
cualquier teclado (los caracteres que no están en el teclado se
envían mediante mapas que vinculan combinaciones de teclas con
caracteres unicode).
La salida es texto puro, utf-8, sin justificaciones...

2. (modo 'profesional' ;-)) Paquetes babel y lgreek para latex, utilizados 
bajo EMACS, modo latex (con auctex y x-symbol). Con esto 
he escrito páginas.pdf con capítulos completos de la Metafísica de 
Aristóteles, así que funciona.

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Re: Problemas imprimiendo ASCII

2000-05-22 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
On lun, may 22, 2000 at 01:22:23 +0100, Correcaminos wrote:
   Hombre !!! :)

Ese, esta semana me he escrito con Jaime Villate y David Charro y he
estado en Madrid tomando una cervezas con Barbwired. Todos coincidimos en la
necesidad de una sesión de Freebeer *ya* ;-D

... va haciendo falta.

   No se si te ayudará, per a veces hago esto:

   alias lpC850='recode iso-8859-1:cp850|lpr'

¿Ein?, y eso ¿dónde va?. Te adjunto los filtros de magicfilter que uso y el
printcap a ver qué pasa.

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make bzImage. Error al final

2000-05-22 Thread diego
Tras varios intentos con el mismo resultado os mando esto a ver si me 
podeis ayudar.

Tras configurar el kernel 2.2.12 y hacer make dep, make clean hago make 
bzImage y me sale al final lo siguiente:

make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot'
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -E -D__BIG_KERNEL__ -traditional 
-DSVGA_MODE=NORMAL_VGA  bootsect.S -o bbootsect.s
as86 -0 -a -o bbootsect.o bbootsect.s
make[1]: as86: Command not found
make[1]: *** [bbootsect.o] Error 127
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot'
make: *** [bzImage] Error 2

Ese comando as86 no esta en mi equipo y no lo veo como paquete para 
instalarlo. Ahora tengo Linux 2.0.36.

Gracias por la ayuda.

Saludos

Diego.






Re: make bzImage. Error al final

2000-05-22 Thread Jordi Mallach
On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 07:58:38PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 make[1]: as86: Command not found

apt-get install bin86

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Re: make bzImage. Error al final

2000-05-22 Thread Agustín Martín Domingo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Tras varios intentos con el mismo resultado os mando esto a ver si me 
 podeis ayudar.
 
 Tras configurar el kernel 2.2.12 y hacer make dep, make clean hago 
 make bzImage y me sale al final lo siguiente:
 
 make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot'
 gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -E -D__BIG_KERNEL__ -traditional 
 -DSVGA_MODE=NORMAL_VGA  bootsect.S -o bbootsect.s
 as86 -0 -a -o bbootsect.o bbootsect.s
 make[1]: as86: Command not found
 make[1]: *** [bbootsect.o] Error 127
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot'
 make: *** [bzImage] Error 2
 
 Ese comando as86 no esta en mi equipo y no lo veo como paquete para  
 instalarlo. Ahora tengo Linux 2.0.36.

$ dpkg -S as86
bin86: /usr/share/doc/bin86/examples/as86_encap
bin86: /usr/bin/as86
bin86: /usr/share/man/man1/as86.1.gz

es decir, instala el paquete bin86 que lo tiene (creo que en slink
estaba en el mismo sitio)

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Re: Problemas imprimiendo ASCII

2000-05-22 Thread Mauricio Saint-Supery
On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 08:50:34AM -0500, Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez  wrote:
 
 Te adjunto los filtros de magicfilter que uso y el
 printcap a ver qué pasa.

(No veas lo que me ha costado decodificar el adjunto). Veo que usas
el filtro de la deskjet500. Las últimas líneas dicen así:

 # Default entry -- for normal (text) files.  MUST BE LAST.
 # If you do not have djscript use the other default line or, better, install
 # it. MM
 #
 default filter  /usr/bin/djscript -q

Modifícalo de esta forma:

  default filter  /usr/bin/djscript -q -Cecma

Con -C cambias el juego de caracteres de la impresora, y ecma es
sinónimo de iso-8859-1 o latin1 (man djscript).

Saludos.



Re: make bzImage. Error al final

2000-05-22 Thread Ugo Enrico Albarello
At 07:58 p.m. 2000-05-22 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Ese comando as86 no esta en mi equipo y no lo veo como paquete para
instalarlo.

Si mal no recuerdo, es parte del paquete binutils.




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Re: make bzImage. Error al final

2000-05-22 Thread Diego Bote

Gracias a Jordi, Agustín y Ugo. Exactamente lo que decís, el
paquete bin86.

  make[1]: as86: Command not found
 
 apt-get install bin86
 

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Re: gnome en potato

2000-05-22 Thread Luis Taboada
Hola Luis,

Monday, May 22, 2000, 12:06:22 PM, escribiste:

Luis Taboada Hola a todos,

Luis Taboada   He instalado la versión de Helixcode-Gnome que indicásteis en la
Luis Taboada   lista hace unos días, y se la ve muy muy hermosota. Pero tengo
Luis Taboada   algunas dudas:

Luis Taboada   1) Tanto en esta versión como en la que viene con potato, cada 
vez
Luis Taboada   que arranco algún proceso manejado por gnome, aparece una 
entrada
Luis Taboada   en la xconsole que dice algo así como neighborn table 
overflow.

Luis Taboada   No casca nada, pero el arranque de los procesos se ralentiza 
mucho.


Bueno, he conseguido resolver el problema del neighbour table
overflow, buscando en la lista de distribución de debian en inglés.
Lo comento por si alguien se llega a encontrar en la misma situación.

El problema viene cuando se instala la actualización del paquete
netbase. En este proceso, sale un aviso en el que te indica que debes
revisar la configuración de los interfaces, pues va a quedar
deshabitido todo por defecto. Como no tengo tarjeta de red, no le di
importancia, pero resulta que te deashabilita hasta el el interface
loopback, que es lo que provoca todos esos mensajes neighbour
table overflow.

El problema yo lo he notado con gnome, pero puede saltar en muchas
otras situaciones.

La solución es la siguiente: editar el fichero
/etc/network/interfaces y descomentar la línea:
 iface lo inet loopback.

Saludos,
 Luismailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




RE: ¿se apagan los athlon?

2000-05-22 Thread Emilio Tejedor
Buenas:
En mi opinión, puede ser un problema del núcleo.
A mí, ni el 2.3.99pre5 ni el pre8 me apagan el portátil, cuando los 2.2 lo
hacían sin problemas.
De hecho, el pre5 me petaba al apagar el ordenador (hacía un oops). Al menos
el pre8 no lo hace.
Yo probaría un nucleo estable, porque no creo que el apagar o no dependa del
micro, sino de la placa.

Un saludo

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 Para: 31
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   El lunes, 22 de mayo del 2000, a las 01:19,
   31 dijo: ¿se apagan los athlon?

   _

  no consigo que se me apage el athlon, ¿alguno conseguís apagarlo?
  uso el kernel 2.3.99-pre8
  con poweroff, halt -p...se quedana en Power off y luego lo tengo que
  apagar en le boton y con init 0 reinicia...

   Doy por hecho que has recompilado el kernel para darle soporte al
 apm, ¿no?

   Saludos :)

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Uniendo hilos

2000-05-22 Thread jrfern
Bueno, pensando en la configuración de mutt y en el presunto
virus-para-linux con que nos amenazan, ¿no creéis que abre
una brecha de seguridad 'set implicit_autoview'? 
Pensando en nuestro hipotético usuario-no-cualificado, ¿puede controlar 
qué mime.types y mailcap van dispararse? 
Otro hilo: ¿podríamos dar por supuesto que los que firmamos la página
con gpg, o bien damos la dirección de la clave pública en la firma o
la hemos puesto en un servidor de claves?
Hasta luego
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Direcciones virtuales..

2000-05-22 Thread Miguel Angel Hernandez Sanchez

Hola, mi nombre es Miguel.
Son varias preguntas al respecto, mi problema es como puedo tener en
linux varias direcciones IP si ya no tengo mas direcciones reales, asi que
supongoq ue tengo que usar direcciones virtuales, mi pregunta es como lo
hago, tambien si alguien me pudiera decir como puedo tener varias
direcciones con apache y si estas direcciones estan relacionadas con las
direcciones Ip de linux o son independientes? y por ultimo como puedo
tener cuentas de correo virtuales y dominis virtuales?


Tengo un AMD Athlon a 650 mhz con potato


les agradeceria mucho su ayuda.



Re: Direcciones virtuales..

2000-05-22 Thread David Charro Ripa
Miguel Angel Hernandez Sanchez wrote:

 Hola, mi nombre es Miguel

Hola Miguel

 tambien si alguien me pudiera decir como puedo tener varias
 direcciones con apache y si estas direcciones estan relacionadas con las
 direcciones Ip de linux o son independientes?

Puedes hacer que diferentes URL sean respondidas por el mismo servidor.
Busca en la documentación de Apache que te viene en potato, y busca virtual 
hosts.
Puedes hacer ip-based virtual hosts o name-based virtual hosts.
Está muy bien explicado, y tienes muchas posibles combinaciones.


Un saludo

K-charro



Re: Problemas imprimiendo ASCII

2000-05-22 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
On lun, may 22, 2000 at 04:46:16 +0200, Mauricio Saint-Supery wrote:
 Modifícalo de esta forma:
 
   default filter  /usr/bin/djscript -q -Cecma

Gracias, lo acabo de poner y probar con la respuesta tuya a mi email y ha
funcionado perfectamente.

 Con -C cambias el juego de caracteres de la impresora, y ecma es
 sinónimo de iso-8859-1 o latin1 (man djscript).
   
   ¡Joer!, miré 'man gs', 'man gs-hpdj',
'man gs***' y me faltaba uno, y al final del filtro... sin duda Murphy otra
vez :0)
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Automatizar cosas con el teclado

2000-05-22 Thread Hue-Bond
 Revisando  mensajes  antiguos me  encuentro  uno  muy chulo  de
 netman, con un par de líneas del .inputrc.

\e[23~: mutt\C-m
\e[24~: jobs\C-m

 Pues  cómo mola.  A ver  si funciona  en una  xterm... sí  :^).
 Deduzco que la  cosa va a nivel de shell.  Bien, me interesaba algo
 parecido pero a  nivel de XWindow, de forma que  pulsando una tecla
 (o  combinación de  teclas) bajo  las X,  se arranque  un programa,
 independientemente si  pulso la tecla  en una xterm o  en cualquier
 otro programa.

 ¿Dónde tendría que tocar? ¿Quizá  en .Xmodmap? ¿O será cosa del
 gestor de ventanas? (ojalá que no).


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Re: sources.list de apt

2000-05-22 Thread Ismael Canales
El Mon, May 22, 2000 at 11:37:23AM +0200, Luis Taboada dijo:
 Hola debiandantes,
 
   El problema es que cuando ejecuto la fase instalar de dselect, o
   el apt-get dselect-update se me queda como colgado después de
   indicarme los paquetes que se van a instalar o actualizar, sin
   llegar a indicarme la cantidad de bytes que se van a descargar y sin
   preguntarme si quiero proceder o no.

A mi me pasaba lo mismo, yo lo arreglé borrando las entradas del cd que me 
daba
problemas, y haciendo una nueva lectura...
 
   Si comento las entradas de 'cdrom', parece que todo se arregla y
   funciona.

Igual. Yo le echaba las culpas a un cd mal tostado o algo así, pero
ya van tres casos, el de un amigo mio, el que me comentas, y el mio ¿ será un 
bug
o simple coincidencia ?

Un saludo.
 
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Re: [Fwd: Sistema Operativo Programa PADRE]

2000-05-22 Thread Ismael Canales
El Mon, May 22, 2000 at 12:44:32AM +0200, Andres Seco Hernandez dijo:
 Yo creo que esto es más importante de lo que parece.
 
 Estoy de acuerdo con Angel en lo de dar a conocer la posición de la AEAT
 en caso de que se nieguen a hacer versiones para otros sistemas
 (discriminación con dinero público, favorecer productos extranjeros
 privados, etc.).

Creo que se defenderian diciendo que no pueden hacer programas para todas
y cada una de las máquinas/S.O que hay en el mercado, y a mi me parece
que tragaría, lo que si se les podría pedir es que publicasen el código
fuente como se ha dicho y luego como el que no quiere la cosa denunciar
eso.

Bueno si es que se puede portar algo hecho con el excel claro. Por San 
Koredumper 
tenian que haberlo hecho en con algo más decente, tradicional y caro.

Otra cosa que se podría exigir es un estudio de el coste que le causa actitudes
monopolisticas a la administración con frecuentes renovaciones de software y 
hardware.
Como en la oficina central mandan los informes en la última versión del 
programa, pues 
venga a actualizar el equipo.

Un saludo.
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isapnp.conf

2000-05-22 Thread Cameron Matheson
Hey,

I'm trying to get my ethernet NE2000 clone to work in linux.  The HOWTO
said to read up about isapnptools, so I started looking at the
README.debian, and it has someone's config file here.  Anyways, I can't
make any sense of it.  It says:

# EDI0119 Serial No 2368613654  [checksum 13]
# ANSI string --PLUG  PLAY ETHERNET CARD--
# Logical device id EDI0119
#Device support I/0 range check register
(CONFIGURE EDI0119/236861364 (LD 0

Where can I find out what the logical device id (and serial no) are?
Somewhere in /proc?

Thanks,
Cameron Matheson





Re: My HD's never spin down...

2000-05-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
the disk will only spin down if nothing is reading/writing to it, run
procinfo to check read/writes, and see if it is increasing when the drive
spins up, chances are there are programs that need the disk so the disk
spins back up.  i always keep my drives spun up 100% of the time, back in
'95 i lost 4 drives in 6 months due to advanced power management(all brand
new drives) ever since i rather keep em all up (and my comp's fans are 3x
louder then the drives anyways :) )

nate

On 21 May 2000, Martin H?gman wrote:

gorkij Well, I guess that the subject says it all. My primary rootdisc,
gorkij /dev/hda, goes on and on. Quite frankly, the noise is getting to me. Is
gorkij there any way to silence it?
gorkij 
gorkij Running on a Woody system, XFree 3.3.6, Kernel 2.2.14
gorkij 
gorkij I also tried running hdparm -Y /dev/hda : result - the drive spun down,
gorkij just to jump back up in two seconds...
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Re: Help: Netgear or Linksys NIC's? Please?

2000-05-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 07:42:46PM -0600, montefin wrote:
 
 1.) Netgear's FA310TX 10/100 PCI RJ45 NIC NIC

i have one of these, its now sitting in the closet.  the thing has
been horridly flaky, when it stops working it takes several ifconfig
up/down to get it going again -- if i was lucky.  most of the time it
took shutting the machine down totally and doing a cold boot.  half
the time it would refuse to work on boot up.  all with the standard
tulip driver in 2.2.13/14.  i ended up yanking it out and replacing it
with a pre intel kingston which works perfectly.

 2.) Linksys's ETHERFAST FAST ENET PCI 10/100 MBS 10/100BTX RJ45 PNP

i have two of these in a OpenBSD firewall they seem to be working
fine, only with OpenBSD 2.6 however, 2.5 mis detected them and as a
result would not work with them.

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Re: isapnp.conf

2000-05-22 Thread Pann McCuaig
On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 22:35, Cameron Matheson wrote:
 Hey,
 
 I'm trying to get my ethernet NE2000 clone to work in linux.  The HOWTO
 said to read up about isapnptools, so I started looking at the
 README.debian, and it has someone's config file here.  Anyways, I can't
 make any sense of it.  It says:
 
 # EDI0119 Serial No 2368613654  [checksum 13]
 # ANSI string --PLUG  PLAY ETHERNET CARD--
 # Logical device id EDI0119
 #Device support I/0 range check register
 (CONFIGURE EDI0119/236861364 (LD 0
 
 Where can I find out what the logical device id (and serial no) are?
 Somewhere in /proc?

pnpdump --configure

is your friend.

Luck,
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Network problem.

2000-05-22 Thread Robert
Hi.

I connect Debian to NIC in Novell server .
Novell is a network router .
I can ping from Novell server on Debian NIC and ping from Debian to Novell
server.
But when i ping to station i another subnetwork i have :
ping 10.0.16.2 -v
PING 10.0.16.2 (10.0.16.2) :56 data bytes
ping: send to : Operation not permitted
ping : wrote 10.0.16.2 54 chars, ret =-1
ping: packet too short (40 bytes) from 10.0.64.174

10.0.64.174 its a Novell NIC IP.

And i don't now what i can do .

I also have a Unix server in this network and that server work OK.






Re: Help: Netgear or Linksys NIC's? Please?

2000-05-22 Thread montefin
Ethan,

You bring up an interesting point. One alternative to my Plan is a.)
yes, upgrade from Red Hat 6.1 to Debian Potato on the Pentium II box,
but b.) install OpenBSD in place of Debian on the 486DX firewall box.

Any opinions on that from anyone?


Ethan Benson wrote:
 
  2.) Linksys's ETHERFAST FAST ENET PCI 10/100 MBS 10/100BTX RJ45 PNP
 
 i have two of these in a OpenBSD firewall they seem to be working
 fine, only with OpenBSD 2.6 however, 2.5 mis detected them and as a
 result would not work with them.

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I see everything twice.

2000-05-22 Thread montefin
Hi all,

How come I'm receiving two of most replies from this list. Not that I'm
complaining. The advice I receive here is ten times as informed and
actionable as from any other user-list. Just curious.

And, concerning the subject line of this email, can anyone identify what
book it comes from? I must have used that quote a thousand times and no
one anywhere has ever commented on it. Yet, it is the defining
grace-note of one of the most endearing characters from 20th Century
American Literature.

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Re: Help: Netgear or Linksys NIC's? Please?

2000-05-22 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 09:40 PM 5/21/00 -0600, montefin wrote [in part]:

 Did whoever told you this realize that you were connecting a Linux-based
 fiewall to the router?


Ray, yes. But since it's the folks at my ISP, I'm not sure whether they
put their knowledge of my system plan together with the package they're
selling me. Do you foresee any problems in the Flowpoint Router or the
NIC cards vis a vis my linux firewall? I've got to say though that my
ISP is one of the most pro-Linux and Linux-literate that I've heard of.

I don't know that router, so I have no opinion. But if you (lucky you!)
actually have an ISP that understands about Linux, I wouldn't be too concerned.
Never tell me the odds!---
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Re: I see everything twice.

2000-05-22 Thread Pollywog
On Mon, 22 May 2000, montefin wrote:
 Hi all,

 How come I'm receiving two of most replies from this list. Not that I'm
 complaining. The advice I receive here is ten times as informed and
 actionable as from any other user-list. Just curious.

So it isn't just me; I am getting two also.  I will have to find a procmail 
rule to take care of that.

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.xsession

2000-05-22 Thread Dennis Pho
i have a problem when i load .xsession in unix. i can't seem to get the 
background, and the rest of the side bars to appear!! pls help!!


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Re: Minor Samba issues

2000-05-22 Thread Lindsay Haisley
Thus spake Philip Lehman on Sun, May 21, 2000 at 12:15:19PM CDT
 
 When printing from either client, I get an extra blank page after each
 print job. This is mentioned in the docs but I'm only advised to check
 the printer config on the server and the settings on the clients,
 whatever that means.

I just had exactly this problem a couple of days ago with a print server set
up with a virgin install of Debian potato.  The problem turned out to be in
/etc/printcap.  The default printer pulled up in the share is 'lp', which is
basically a config for an old-fashioned dot matrix printer.  It has no 'sf'
entry.  Make sure the printcap entry defining your share contains 'sf',
which is 'supress form feed'.  Adding 'sf' to the printcap entry fixed the
problem for me.  The printcap I use for may shared Epson Action Laser 1500
(which emulates an HP LaserJet III) is as follows:

hpljiii:\
:lp=/dev/lp0:\
:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hpljiii:\
:af=/var/log/hpljiii-acct:\
:lf=/var/log/hpljiii-errs:\
:mx#0:\
:sh:\
:sf:

This basically says to accept a file of any size and don't add a blank page
at either the beginning or end.  If you're going to share a printer from a
Windows box you basically want a printcap that's transparent and doesn't
muck with anything at all.  The Windoze driver will do all the mucking, and
you basically want the printer to receive exactly what the Windows driver
puts out.  This printcap entry ought to work for almost any modern printer
shared to a Windows box for which a straightforward Windows driver exists.

The printcap facility in Linux is straight out of the 70s or 80s and is in
serious need of substantial revision.  I understand that some such effort
is underway.

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OpenBSD (was Re: Help: Netgear or Linksys NIC's? Please?)

2000-05-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 11:18:53PM -0600, montefin wrote:
 Ethan,
 
 You bring up an interesting point. One alternative to my Plan is a.)
 yes, upgrade from Red Hat 6.1 to Debian Potato on the Pentium II box,
 but b.) install OpenBSD in place of Debian on the 486DX firewall box.
 
 Any opinions on that from anyone?

OpenBSD is a very nice, clean system, its indeed very secure out of
the box, its also somewhat sparten out of the box...  (that is what
/usr/ports is for) 

so far i have not gotten around to finishing up my NAT setup on my
OpenBSD box (just been doing other things/lazyness etc) but here is
some impressions/notes on OpenBSD:

when a bug (security or otherwise) is found in OpenBSD only a source
code patch is released on openbsd.org you must install the source code
in /usr/src, patch it and rebuild the affected program yourself.  this
is really not that hard, the first line of the .patch tells you what
it applies to.  when i first installed OpenBSD 2.6 i had to rebuild,
the kernel, libc, syslogd, and one or two other things, it was all
just a matter of patch -p1  some.patch  make  make install quite
painless really.

the kernel is built somewhat differently then linux kernels are:

on linux we configure it with either make config, make menuconfig or
make xconfig.  with OpenBSD we configure are kernel like this:

cd /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/conf/
cp GENERIC HOSTNAME
vi HOSTNAME
cd /usr/src/sys/conf/
cp GENERIC HOSTNAME
vi HOSTNAME
config HOSTNAME
cd /usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/HOSTNAME/
make depend
make
mv /bsd /bsd.old
cp bsd /bsd
shutdown -r now

different but again not that painfull.

also note that in OpenBSD (and presumably NetBSD) there is no such
thing as a IDE/ATAPI driver, instead there is a scsi driver for IDE
stuff, a bit strange but it does ensure that /dev/cd0a is always your
first CDROM regardless of whether its IDE or scsi.  (see you don't
need silly devfs to get device file consistency)

i found that the documentation on getting PPP working was OK but with
just enough mistakes to make a newbie jump off a bridge, if you know
what your doing and know how to read debug output from the ppp.log you
can see the problem.  

OpenBSD's PPP includes ipnat making a NAT setup a bit simpler to setup
presumably, the rulset seems to go into ppp.conf (i have not finished
working this out yet)  documentation on setting up NAT with dynamic
IP's is quite absent (i may just get a static IP rather then fsck with
it, i want one anyway) 

if you look at the docs on ipfilter you will instantly start liking it
over ipchains, the rules are actually readable.  setting up rules
looks quite simple (unless you have stupid dynamic IP which obfuscates
everything it seems) 

here are a few things i really like about OpenBSD:

1) Blowfish encrypted passwords with configurable number of rounds.
try running one of these babies through john the ripper even the most
crappy passwords (like `password') take over 30 seconds to be
discovered by john instead of a split second like linux's md5 or old
crypt.

2) STRONG crypto everywhere, in the libc, in the kernel, in the base
system. everywhere, ssh, kerberos, IPSEC, etc all in the default
install mm. ;-)

3) /usr/ports ;-)  this is just plain cool, its also usually very
simple to update a port yourself to the current version if its
outdated.  when you install a port its listed in the package list and
can be removed with pkg_delete. 

4) simple clean and unbloated default install.  

5) sendmail is easily replacable with postfix or whatever MTA you
prefer, /usr/sbin/sendmail is a wrapper, you configure what the real
on is in /etc/mailer.conf.  a sort of alternatives system for the
MTA.  

6) don't have to update the boot loader every time you touch your
kernel. 

7) shutting down services is very easy to do (there are not many to
shutdown either) the initscripts are BSD style of course but are
really quite elegant and easy to customize.  though if you are
attached to the sysv style /etc/init.d/foo stop you may be annoyed by
the bsd style kill `cat /var/run/foo.pid`.  there is no killall
command (and if there were i think the bsd style killall does just
that, it kills ALL)

a few things i dislike about OpenBSD:

1) the passwd program lacks a built in cluestick, it will happily let
your users set there password to any lame thing they want, including
`password' `abcdef' `123456' and so on.  there seems to be no way to
fix this other then replacing the password program alltogether, which
is not trivial given OpenBSD's Blowfish passwords and built in
kerberos support. 

2) no /etc/limits support, it seems the only way to set resource
limits is by sprinkling ulimit commands in /etc/profile /etc/csh.cshrc
and so on, not very convenient.

3) typical unix semi broken keyboard/termcap setup, delete key does
not work etc.  (Debian is the FIRST and ONLY *nix i have encountered
that lacks this annoying problem) 

4) the filesystem is SLOW compared to ext2, soft updates help but

Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

2000-05-22 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 07:46:47PM -0800, Ethan Benson wrote:
 i think dlocate really takes care of the problem nicely, for things
 like status and file lists dlocate is quite fast. its unfortunate that
 it was removed from potato for a *ONE LINE BUG* with a fix in the
 bts... why oh why could there not have been an NMU??

i wasn't even aware that it was removed from potato until i tried to
install dlocate on a potato system with apt-get a week or so ago.

this is the second of my packages that have been removed for trivial
reasons. i gave up on potato after the first one...at the time, i
offered to upload a version which fixed a minor packaging error (i
forgot to specify frozen as well as unstable) but i didn't get a
reply until after the deadline and the answer was basically haha! too
late! - this does not exactly inspire enthusiasm in me.

for that reason (amongst others, like the fact that potato is already
obsolete and will be even more obsolete by the time it gets released), i
do not give a damn about potato.



the bug isn't, IMO, even in dlocate. it is in the slocate package.
slocate should NOT replace GNU locate if it is not 100% compatible with
it.

but, as i said, i don't care. i don't have the time or the energy to
argue with a release manager whose goal seems to be to find excuses to
remove packages from the distribution.  IMO, the stable should be
treated as a fork, anyway.

craig

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Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

2000-05-22 Thread Lindsay Haisley
Thus spake w trillich on Sun, May 21, 2000 at 01:49:35PM CDT

 which is why it should not surprise any gurus on this list that
 newbies upgrading from slink know nothing about APT or its magic.
 they don't rtfm because they don't know about it.
 
 NEWBIES: check out 'apt-get'! it's better than dpkg, which is
 better than redhat's rpm 'system'...

Even some of us old-timers don't know a lot about it.  I've been using
Debian since Buzz and Hamm, and didn't know much about it.  My only contact
with it before this year was when one of the less clueful sysadmins for the
Linux box belonging to a local users group did an 'apt-get upgrade' to
update the system shotgun style and seriously hozed a bunch of stuff we'd
spent a lot of time configuring!

I've started using it as my access method under dselect and it's cool. 
Comments on this forum have encouraged me to revisit the apt command line
utilities as well.

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Re: Please help - network incredibly slow...

2000-05-22 Thread John Pearson

A couple of general comments...

You don't have standard PC hardware - regular PCs only have IRQs
0-15 whereas you're using IRQ 18  19.  I assume that they are
supported on your hardware, but if your problem relates to your
specific platform then those familiar with your platform may be
better-equipped to comment.

The second machine you have seems to have a lot of problems with
eth0 - 14 framing errors in 333 packets is very high.  Have you
tried replacing your cable/NIC on that end?

On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 12:21:17AM +0200, Christian Pernegger wrote
 Thanks for your reply!
 
 Info coming up... (attached, unix line breaks)
 
 I just hope they're readable - I have to mail from
 NT because I haven't had time to get exim to do my bidding yet :(
 
 Regards
 
 Christian
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: John Pearson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 4:15 AM
  To: Debian user list
  Subject: Re: Please help - network incredibly slow...
  
  It would be handy if you provided the output of /sbin/ifconfig and 
  cat /proc/interrupts for one of the machines.  My first guess would
  be a shared IRQ.
  
  
  John P.
 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:BA:E5:F0:6B  
   inet addr:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:1049453 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:1152282 errors:2058 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
   Interrupt:18 Base address:0xb000 
 
 eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:10:5A:F7:E5:54  
   inet addr:212.17.124.103  Bcast:212.17.124.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
   UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:47440 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:2108 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:5
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
   Interrupt:17 Base address:0xa800 
 
 loLink encap:Local Loopback  
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
   RX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:10 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
 

CPU0   CPU1   
   0: 247145 245199IO-APIC-edge  timer
   1:   1695   1635IO-APIC-edge  keyboard
   2:  0  0  XT-PIC  cascade
   8:  0  1IO-APIC-edge  rtc
  13:  1  0  XT-PIC  fpu
  17:  24799  24794   IO-APIC-level  eth1
  18:10089351008938   IO-APIC-level  eth0
  19:  19823  19793   IO-APIC-level  aic7xxx, EMU10K1
 NMI:  0
 ERR:  0

 eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:60:08:81:72:87  
   inet addr:192.168.0.101  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:333 errors:9 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:14
   TX packets:247 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 
   Interrupt:9 Base address:0x6000 
 
 loLink encap:Local Loopback  
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:3924  Metric:1
   RX packets:18 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:18 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
 

CPU0   
   0: 340292  XT-PIC  timer
   1:  2  XT-PIC  keyboard
   2:  0  XT-PIC  cascade
   8:  1  XT-PIC  rtc
   9:745  XT-PIC  eth0
  13:  0  XT-PIC  fpu
  14:  16564  XT-PIC  ide0
 NMI:  0


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Re: Help .gtkrc FAQ?

2000-05-22 Thread Jonathan Gift
Hi,

Thanks for getting back to me. I checked out the site before posting and it
has some nice intro stuff. I wondered is there was anything with more depth?

Jonathan

 Try this:

 http://gtk.themes.org/php/docs.phtml?docid=37secid=1.2

 or the whole documentation section at gtk.themes.org.




Re: Kernel revision info command?

2000-05-22 Thread kmself
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 04:45:22PM -0500, Ron Stordahl wrote:
 I am in bash.  What do I type to determine the current revision of the
 kernel?  Or if you can't do it there, how?

$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 2.2.14 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.2 2313 (Debian 
GNU/Linux)) #1 Mon Apr 17 04:06:03 PDT 2000

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Re: Screen Saver

2000-05-22 Thread kmself
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 09:58:00PM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote:
 If my monitor goes black,(i.e. screen saver I think) how do I turn that off.
 The monitor doesnt shut off just goes blank. Sounds like the screen saver
 but I have no idea where to check..

From console mode:  man setterm
From X Windows:  man xset

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files 2G possible?

2000-05-22 Thread Shmulik Elmakias



Dir Madam/Sir,
I need to have files bigger than 2G. What can I 
do?
I use debian linux with kernel 2.2.14
Thanks,
Shmulik Elmakias
Quark BiotechInc.
System Administrator


Re: Kernel revision info command?

2000-05-22 Thread Lindsay Haisley
Also..

$ uname -r

or

$ uname -a (for more information)

Thus spake kmself@ix.netcom.com on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 01:31:23AM CDT
 On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 04:45:22PM -0500, Ron Stordahl wrote:
  I am in bash.  What do I type to determine the current revision of the
  kernel?  Or if you can't do it there, how?
 
 $ cat /proc/version
 Linux version 2.2.14 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 2.95.2 2313 (Debian 
 GNU/Linux)) #1 Mon Apr 17 04:06:03 PDT 2000
 
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Re: Telnet Security

2000-05-22 Thread kmself
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 10:05:32PM -0700, Jay Kelly wrote:
 Is there a way to keep my Telnet port open but still have security?

Disable your network connection.

The general answer is no, ssh should be used instead.  There is also a
telnet-ssl secure mode, though I haven't used it.

On the very rare occasions I need to make a local telnet connection from
a single host, I enable a *single IP* in /etc/hosts.allow, for the
duration of the connection, then disable it afterwards.

Telnet is an obsolete protocol which should be retired.  It's
inappropriate for the current networked computing environment.

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Re: Help: Netgear or Linksys NIC's? Please?

2000-05-22 Thread montefin
Ray,

Yes!

Ray Olszewski wrote:
 
 I don't know that router {the Flowpoint 2200 DSL}, so I have no opinion. But 
 if you (lucky you!)
 actually have an ISP that understands about Linux, I wouldn't be too 
 concerned.


Ray, I must share this.

About a year ago, totally out-of-the-blue, I decided to 'just try'
Linux. I called the support line at my ISP (Southwest Cyberport here in
Albuquerque) to get help with my ppp dial-up. A young man named James
answered.

I told James I needed help connecting a new Red Hat Linux install to my
ppp dial-up and was there anyone there who could help me. James said
Linux? My heart sank. Then James said Welcome aboard.

For the next hour (luckily for me it was a slow support day) James and I
climbed up and down my Linux file tree like a couple of monkeys. He
covered every possible aspect that a newbie like myself might or might
not need to have a successful first experience. I was just about running
out of index cards to jot down his invaluable input, when he walked me
through the linuxconf 'Network Interface' protocol setup. He had given
me enough background for me to finally understand his simple answer to
my simple question! Many writers of Linux documentation should heed
James's 'method'!

James subsequently became the facilitator of our local LUG (which his
company whole-heartedly supports) and, very oddly enough, is also the
friend who 'bounced off Debian' that I mentioned in my first post in
this thread. He has come to be quite happy in Slack.

James is also my quide in the switch to SDSL, which, of course, I am
contracting through his company. Although I have been 'invited' to
switch to 'better, slicker, cheaper' services offered by other ISP's, I
have never forgotten that first Welcome aboard. from James and will
remain a lifetime customer of Southwest Cyberport as long as James is a
member of their team.

Well, I do runs on, don't I? Most ISP's get a pretty general running
down among Linux folks so I thought a 'different experience' might be
encouraging. Thanks for all your support and your patience with

montefin

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Re: .xsession

2000-05-22 Thread Eric G . Miller
On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 10:59:52PM -0700, Dennis Pho wrote:
 i have a problem when i load .xsession in unix. i can't seem to get
 the background, and the rest of the side bars to appear!! pls help!!

What on earth are you talking about? background? sidebars?

For background, I assume you mean the desktop background:

if [ -f /usr/bin/X11/xsetroot ]; then
/usr/bin/X11/xsetroot -solid wheat4
fi

But, many window managers can do a much better job with that.

Have no idea what you mean by sidebar? Maybe you should explain what
you're trying to do a little more.  And maybe include the relevant
sections of ~/.xession.

BTW, .xsession needs to be executable (chmod +x .xsession).

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finger

2000-05-22 Thread Rostislav Vorobyev
Dear friends,

Can someone explain me why people are not set 4755 permission on a finger
program? I see good reasons to do that: if a user does not allow to see
his/her ~user tree, finger will display .plan, .project and maybe .pgp --
depends on finger version -- in any case. Maybe is there the special
reasons do not do that? Security? Else?


Thank you in advance,

Rost




Re: finger

2000-05-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 07:01:00AM +, Rostislav Vorobyev wrote:
 Dear friends,
 
 Can someone explain me why people are not set 4755 permission on a finger
 program? I see good reasons to do that: if a user does not allow to see
 his/her ~user tree, finger will display .plan, .project and maybe .pgp --
 depends on finger version -- in any case. Maybe is there the special
 reasons do not do that? Security? Else?

gah, are you suggesting finger be suid root ??? that fingerd be run as
root??  oh my!  yes that is a huge security hole.

back in the day they used to do exactly that, then users discovered
they could symlink .plan to /etc/shadow or any other file they should
not be allowed to see, finger themself and cha ching there is
/etc/shadow!

finger running as root is a very bad thing.  if users want thier .plan
to show they should chmod a+r on it and chmod a+x $HOME.  that will
allow finger to see the .plan but not anyone to ls the home
directory.  of course if they have an insane umask like 022, 002 or
such then all there files will be readable to all, the obvious
solution of couse is not to use such a horrible umask and use 027 or
007 instead.

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Re: files 2G possible?

2000-05-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 09:31:25AM +0200, Shmulik Elmakias wrote:
 Dir Madam/Sir,
 I need to have files bigger than 2G. What can I do?
 I use debian linux with kernel 2.2.14

buy a computer with an alpha chip (or any other 64bit chip will do) 

kernel 2.4 supposedly has some kludges to allow for  2GB on 32 bit
platforms but i think that software must be rewritten to use the
new/kludged versions of the API.  getting 64bit hardware is a much
cleaner and better solution. (but not that friendly on your wallet :P) 

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Re: finger

2000-05-22 Thread Lindsay Haisley
It's possible to make .plan or .project to be named pipes, which means that
the act of reading them can cause code to be executed.  If finger executes
suid root, then said code can execute as root.  The potential for mischief
should be obvious.

Thus spake Rostislav Vorobyev on Mon, May 22, 2000 at 02:01:00AM CDT
 Dear friends,
 
 Can someone explain me why people are not set 4755 permission on a finger
 program? I see good reasons to do that: if a user does not allow to see
 his/her ~user tree, finger will display .plan, .project and maybe .pgp --
 depends on finger version -- in any case. Maybe is there the special
 reasons do not do that? Security? Else?
 
 
 Thank you in advance,
 
 Rost
 
 
 
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Re: I see everything twice.

2000-05-22 Thread montefin
But, Pollywog

You have not addressed the main question!

From where comes the quote I see everything twice.?

montefin


Pollywog wrote:
 
 On Mon, 22 May 2000, montefin wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  How come I'm receiving two of most replies from this list. Not that I'm
  complaining. The advice I receive here is ten times as informed and
  actionable as from any other user-list. Just curious.
 
 So it isn't just me; I am getting two also.  I will have to find a procmail
 rule to take care of that.
 
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RE: corel uninstallable

2000-05-22 Thread Dominic Blythe
It worked fine for me, but i know a few people who've has this/similar
problem.
no answers though :(


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 May 2000 17:19
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: 


hi with regard to this
 

Hi,
could anyone help me on this one?
I'm trying to install Corel Linux on my PC
(pentium II 350, 64 ram, 2 IDE HD Drives one of them 6.5G completely free to

install linux)
I can launch the CD ok, I create the disk, reboot (with disk and cdrom
inserted)
LILO launches, CDrom starts spinning with msg installing Corel Linux after
1/2 
seconds error 0x10 appear beneath previous message, cdrom spins again,
same 
msg again and again and again
Please mail me back the answer
Thanks very much
Ben


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Re: USB

2000-05-22 Thread Wyss, Otto
Ron Rademaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Try a 2.3 kernel, it supports USB (I think there are also USB patches for
 2.2 kernels but I'm not sure.).

Yes there are 2.2.x patches. Haven't tried them but they're
there. Take a hop over to http://www.linux-usb.org and look for the
Backport of 2.3 to the 2.2 kernels.

 On Thu, 18 May 2000, Chris Mason wrote:
 
  I just bought a Nkon Coolpix 990, is there anyway I can read the media
  through the USB reader under Linux?
  
There are even a upgrade-package, see
http://members.xoom.com/mydebs/debian/usb/; but I haven't tried it.

O. Wyss



fetchmail: removing stale lockfile

2000-05-22 Thread kmself
I'm getting the message:

fetchmail: removing stale lockfile

...every time I run fetchmail (5.3.4-1) on my system.  I just checked
and I'm running the most current version.

Running strace, I find the following:

open(/home/karsten/.fetchmail.pid, O_RDONLY) = 3
fstat(3, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0600, st_size=5, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS,
-1, 0) = 0
x40014000
read(3, 10581, 4096)  = 5
read(3, , 4096)   = 0
kill(10581, SIG_0)  = -1 ESRCH (No such process)
write(2, fetchmail: removing stale lockfi..., 35fetchmail: removing
stale lock
file
) = 35
unlink(/home/karsten/.fetchmail.pid)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
directory)
close(3)= 0

Naturally, ~/.fetchmail.pid does not exist.

Things appear to be working properly, but the message is getting mailed
to me as fetchmail runs from a user crontab.  I'd like to lose it.

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Re: I see everything twice.

2000-05-22 Thread Vitux
montefin wrote:
 
 But, Pollywog
 
 You have not addressed the main question!
 
 From where comes the quote I see everything twice.?
 
 montefin
 
 Pollywog wrote:
 
  On Mon, 22 May 2000, montefin wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   How come I'm receiving two of most replies from this list. Not that I'm
   complaining. The advice I receive here is ten times as informed and
   actionable as from any other user-list. Just curious.
 
  So it isn't just me; I am getting two also.  I will have to find a procmail
  rule to take care of that.
 
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Funny, I get that as well, but only very rarely, and it seems
most of the time, it's Netscape forgetting to delete old msg's
from the server. Still, some inexplicable instances remain.
Guess I'll have to speak to my ISP...
;-)
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RE: I see everything twice.

2000-05-22 Thread Dominic Blythe
i think you get two of replies to your own questions because 
debian people, considerate beings that they are, reply-all
to your messages - one reply to you, and one reply to the list
(which is sent on to you). That's what happens to me anyway.

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  Debian GNU/Linux. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Vitux [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 May 2000 10:01
 To: debian-user
 Subject: Re: I see everything twice.
 
 
 montefin wrote:
  
  But, Pollywog
  
  You have not addressed the main question!
  
  From where comes the quote I see everything twice.?
  
  montefin
  
  Pollywog wrote:
  
   On Mon, 22 May 2000, montefin wrote:
Hi all,
   
How come I'm receiving two of most replies from this 
 list. Not that I'm
complaining. The advice I receive here is ten times as 
 informed and
actionable as from any other user-list. Just curious.
  
   So it isn't just me; I am getting two also.  I will have 
 to find a procmail
   rule to take care of that.
  
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 Funny, I get that as well, but only very rarely, and it seems
 most of the time, it's Netscape forgetting to delete old msg's
 from the server. Still, some inexplicable instances remain.
 Guess I'll have to speak to my ISP...
 ;-)
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Re: I see everything twice.

2000-05-22 Thread Davide Libenzi
Drink less ;(

Davide

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apache question

2000-05-22 Thread Dominic Blythe
i don't use inetd to start apache, i start it from a script
which i can only run as root. if i chmod the script and try
being any other user, it won't start.

the documentation says you will have to start apache as root
and then it will switch to Nobody, it kind of does, I get 
one process running as root, and about five running as
Nobody, which I guess are the servers mentioned in
httpd.conf. If i shut down the process owned by root, 
apache shuts down. apache doesn't mind how many of the
Nobody server processes are running.

Yeah But What's The Question?

Question: is this safe? everybody everywhere always
says never run apache as root, particularly if there
are cgi etc running.

Dominic Blythe

 I used to be an advocate of 
  Anything But Microsoft
  until I discovered
Debian GNU/Linux. 



Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.

2000-05-22 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Joey Hess wrote:
 When we were talking about this at the office, we did come up with one
 situaton where the rpm ordering actually let you correct problems in
 a previous package in a way dpkg's ordering did not. However, I figured
 out a workaround we could use if we ever ran into that (very unlikely)
 case.

Can you tell me which problem that was? The only one I know of is a broken
prerm in an installed package and no fixed version in the new version when
upgrading, or trying to remove that package.

Wichert.

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Re: apache question

2000-05-22 Thread Ethan Benson
On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 09:54:29AM +0100, Dominic Blythe wrote:
 i don't use inetd to start apache, i start it from a script
 which i can only run as root. if i chmod the script and try
 being any other user, it won't start.

it needs root privileges (or more presisly a capability to bind to
privileged ports) to bind to port 80.

 the documentation says you will have to start apache as root
 and then it will switch to Nobody, it kind of does, I get 
 one process running as root, and about five running as
 Nobody, which I guess are the servers mentioned in
 httpd.conf. If i shut down the process owned by root, 
 apache shuts down. apache doesn't mind how many of the
 Nobody server processes are running.

this is normal, as apache gets more and more requests it will spawn
more children (the nobody processes) and as load lightens up it will
start killing its children (what an awful thing to do! ;p) but the
parent process must run as root to bind the children to port 80.  the
parent process (the only running as root) does not serve or listen to
any requests. 

 Yeah But What's The Question?
 
 Question: is this safe? everybody everywhere always
 says never run apache as root, particularly if there
 are cgi etc running.

yes this is safe and perfectly normal so long as the children
processes are not running as root you are fine.  the parent needs to
run as root to write to the logs and bind the children to port 80 but
it will not serve requests itself.

however one thing you should do on a debian system is chown /var/www
to root and make sure its not group writable.  also chown
/var/log/apache/* to root.adm and make sure the permissions are 640
or 644.  (you have to fix the apache cron jobs to not undo this change)

for some insane reason debian leaves the www-root owned by
www-data.www-data (the same user debian runs apache as) along with the
logs.  this is totally wrong as the web server user should NOT own
files or have any write permission to anything.  if it does then all
it takes is one of those unprivileged child processes to be exploited
and your web site can be replaced and your logs can be removed. bad
bad bad.

if you run apache as nobody instead of www-data you should be ok
though. (so long as you don't give other users access to the www-data
account (user or group).

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Re: ppp connection failure - re-post

2000-05-22 Thread John Gould
Hello everyone,
   I am re-posting this as no one seemed to be able to answer
this the first time. If the worst comes to the worst I'll have to
install 2.1r4.

Thanks and regards JohnG


Hello everyone,
   I am running potato with kernel 2.2.15 installed. Whatever
I do I cannot get ppp to connect to the local RAS server. Another box
running 2.1r4 works perfectly. I have re-built the kernel several times
and stripped out ppp and pppconfig and re-installed. Still I get the same
error on connect. Can anyone help? Part of ppp connect from syslog shown
below:-

May 18 17:31:50 heman chat[667]: abort on (NO ANSWER)
May 18 17:31:50 heman chat[667]: send (ATZ^M)
May 18 17:31:50 heman chat[667]: expect (OK)
May 18 17:31:50 heman chat[667]: ATZ^M^M
May 18 17:31:50 heman chat[667]: OK
May 18 17:31:50 heman chat[667]:  -- got it
May 18 17:31:50 heman chat[667]: send (ATDT3193^M)
May 18 17:31:50 heman chat[667]: expect (CONNECT)
May 18 17:31:50 heman chat[667]: ^M
May 18 17:32:16 heman chat[667]: ATDT3193^M^M
May 18 17:32:16 heman chat[667]: CONNECT
May 18 17:32:16 heman chat[667]:  -- got it
May 18 17:32:16 heman chat[667]: send (\d)
May 18 17:32:17 heman pppd[666]: Serial connection established.
May 18 17:32:17 heman pppd[666]: Using interface ppp0
May 18 17:32:17 heman pppd[666]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
May 18 17:32:18 heman pppd[666]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0
magic 0xe7f3fcfa pcomp accomp]
May 18 17:32:45 heman last message repeated 9 times
May 18 17:32:48 heman pppd[666]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
May 18 17:32:48 heman pppd[666]: Connection terminated.
May 18 17:32:48 heman pppd[666]: Hangup (SIGHUP)
May 18 17:32:48 heman pppd[666]: Exit.

Thanks and best regards JohnG

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Re: Help .gtkrc FAQ?

2000-05-22 Thread Colin Watson
Jonathan Gift [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[attribution lost]

 Try this:

 http://gtk.themes.org/php/docs.phtml?docid=37secid=1.2

 or the whole documentation section at gtk.themes.org.

Thanks for getting back to me. I checked out the site before posting and it
has some nice intro stuff. I wondered is there was anything with more depth?

http://developer.gnome.org/ ? It depends just how much depth you want, I
suppose. :)

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RE: Please help - network incredibly slow...

2000-05-22 Thread Christian Pernegger
 A couple of general comments...
 
 You don't have standard PC hardware - regular PCs only have IRQs
 0-15 whereas you're using IRQ 18  19.  I assume that they are
 supported on your hardware, but if your problem relates to your
 specific platform then those familiar with your platform may be
 better-equipped to comment.

That's okay on a dual proc system. They're two stock P2-400s -
no other platform, really.

 The second machine you have seems to have a lot of problems with
 eth0 - 14 framing errors in 333 packets is very high.

What IS a framing error? Also, the switch will show collisions
when transfering data from this machine (lots and lots), even
though it's basically on its own networkt segment.

 Have you tried replacing your cable/NIC on that end?

Cable yes, NIC no - I'll try.

I've got two more questions:

1) How much throughput should I get on
FTP get
FTP put

on 100 mbit/s? If between 3 and 5.5 MB/sec is ok, then really this
second machine is the only thing broken...

2) Any idea why transfers on the first one flood all consoles with
error messages?


Thanks

Christian



No visible applications from Xwindows

2000-05-22 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
Afterstep as windows manager, when left click a menu appears, with
Debian gray, no links from there.
System done from frozen bootfloppies, dselect+apt-get
Several applications are installed, but none shows up. There is no even
xterm, or eterm (which I installed)
Any ideas??



Re: Minor Samba issues

2000-05-22 Thread Philip Lehman
On Mon, 22 May 2000, Lindsay Haisley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The problem turned out to be in
/etc/printcap.  The default printer pulled up in the share is 'lp', which is
basically a config for an old-fashioned dot matrix printer.  It has no 'sf'
entry.  Make sure the printcap entry defining your share contains 'sf',
which is 'supress form feed'.  Adding 'sf' to the printcap entry fixed the
problem for me.

Yes, that's it. I didn't consider the server's printcap because
printing on the server locally worked fine. Appearantly I have been
getting something wrong.



Re: fetchmail: removing stale lockfile

2000-05-22 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
On Mon, 22 May 2000 kmself@ix.netcom.com wrote:

 I'm getting the message:
 
 fetchmail: removing stale lockfile
 
 ...every time I run fetchmail (5.3.4-1) on my system.  I just checked
 and I'm running the most current version.
 
 Running strace, I find the following:
 
 open(/home/karsten/.fetchmail.pid, O_RDONLY) = 3
 [...]
 unlink(/home/karsten/.fetchmail.pid)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or
 
 Naturally, ~/.fetchmail.pid does not exist.
 
as you can see from the above two lines i cut out, the file seems to
disappear while it is read ...
this typically would indicate some race condition.
is it possible, that there are two instances of fetchmail started by the
cron job at nearly the same time?

i have no other idea ...

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Re: Debian and the Linuxtag 2000

2000-05-22 Thread Federico Di Gregorio
Scavenging the mail folder uncovered Alexander Reelsen's letter:
 Right now, Othmar Pasteka ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and me are doing the booth
 coordination for the Debian booth. Here some facts about the linuxtag and
 debian:
 - ID-PRO sponsors about 1 cd's, which will be handed out at the LT2k
 - Currently a small team works on a working potato CD [2] with special
   task[3] packages, just for this CD.
 - Label and case for the CD are created at the moment (no URL available)

we can help with the design of the case and labels, see below.

 - We try to show a running debian on as many platforms as possible, right
   now there are three != i386. So if anyone has some nice hardware lying
   around, which isn't needed during the LT2k and has a more-or-less
   working debian on it, feel free to mail me that you will bring it with
   you. :)

i'll take my laptop with me...

 - A list of people at the booth and other information about the booth
   (we will have 18 square meters, what is pretty much compared to last
   year's booth), can be obtained here [4].
 - We have not decided yet, what kind of software will be run on the
   machines. Something like blender often acts magnetic on the visitors. I
   am open for suggestions here...
 - Some flyers need to be created and printed. I don't know what's up with
   this issue, need to clear that one up.

here at MIXAD LIVE we have some pretty good designer. if you want we
can design *AND PRINT* some thousands of fliers. just let me know what
do you want on them. we are also designing the cd covers for the potato
debian cds (see my announce about a week ago), so, if you need help we
can design produce something for the linux tag cds too.

ciao,
federico

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Re: finger

2000-05-22 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
 It's possible to make .plan or .project to be named pipes, which means that
 the act of reading them can cause code to be executed.  If finger executes
 suid root, then said code can execute as root.  The potential for mischief
 should be obvious.
 
could you explain this a bit?
from my knowledge trying to read a pipe does not execute any process. if
there is nothing on the other end then there is simply no data available.
and i also cannot imagine, that finger executes the data read from the
.plan and .project files - otherwise anybody could make his files trojan
horses, which attack any user which fingers the evil user.
did i miss something? just curious ...

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Re: Please help - network incredibly slow...

2000-05-22 Thread John Pearson
On Mon, May 22, 2000 at 12:16:52PM +0200, Christian Pernegger wrote
  A couple of general comments...
  
  You don't have standard PC hardware - regular PCs only have IRQs
  0-15 whereas you're using IRQ 18  19.  I assume that they are
  supported on your hardware, but if your problem relates to your
  specific platform then those familiar with your platform may be
  better-equipped to comment.
 
 That's okay on a dual proc system. They're two stock P2-400s -
 no other platform, really.
 
  The second machine you have seems to have a lot of problems with
  eth0 - 14 framing errors in 333 packets is very high.
 
 What IS a framing error? Also, the switch will show collisions
 when transfering data from this machine (lots and lots), even
 though it's basically on its own networkt segment.
 

Well [waves hands] it means that it pulled an incomplete or
corrupted frame off the wire.  Data is framed so that you can
tell where it starts and ends, and perform basic sanity checks. 
A framing error could be a single-bit error in just the wrong
place, or it could be two days' worth of packets in the bit
bucket.

As you have a SMP system, you should ensure that the drivers for
your network cards (and, for good measure, your other drivers)
are SMP safe - most are, but it's not yet something you can take
for granted.

  Have you tried replacing your cable/NIC on that end?
 
 Cable yes, NIC no - I'll try.
 
 I've got two more questions:
 
 1) How much throughput should I get on
   FTP get
   FTP put
 
 on 100 mbit/s? If between 3 and 5.5 MB/sec is ok, then really this
 second machine is the only thing broken...


Couldn't say for sure but I'd expect that 100mbit/s would
top-out at around 10MB/s - it depends on what else is trvelling
on the wire, packet sizes, and whether your PC can keep up (it
should be able to).
 
 2) Any idea why transfers on the first one flood all consoles with
 error messages?
 

That depends... what are the messages?

 
 Thanks
 
 Christian


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Re: permssions

2000-05-22 Thread Radim Gelner
On Sat, May 20, 2000 at 04:29:23PM +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
  I am new at this, so this may be a simple question.  I recently
  installed potato on my home computer, and have sound working.  However I
  am only able to listen to cds when I am logged in as root.  When I try
  to listen as user, I get a message that says I cannot access the cdrom
  because permission is denied.  I am not sure how to set the permissions
  so that I have access to the cdrom as user. I was hoping that someone
  could help me out with this.
 

Or: adduser yourname cdrom

and then read manual page for adduser

Radim



Re: Re[2]: exim mail routing...

2000-05-22 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
 /var/spool/exim/messaglog:
 2000-05-21 22:27:54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 
 local_delivery transport deferred: Permission denied: creating lock file 
 hitching post /var/spool/mail/admin.lock.alpha.cs.mum.edu.3928a93a.0ac9
 
i had a similar problem. is solved it with chmod 3777 /var/mail.
this is possibly not very clean, but it works.

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Re: NFS server setup problems...

2000-05-22 Thread Kelly Corbin
Yes, NFS is compiled into the kernel not as a module.
 
 Do you have NFS support compiled into your kernel?
 
 Mike Janssen - Jamuraa
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: NFS server setup problems...

2000-05-22 Thread Kelly Corbin
Daniel Faller wrote:
I have compiled NFS into the kernel (not as a module).  And I have the
nfs-kernel-package installed. Any other ideas?  Thanks.

Kelly

 You have to compile a custom kernel including kernel-nfs, or use the user 
 space nfs daemon
 (Package nfs-server instead of nfs-kernel-server)
 
 _
 Daniel Faller
 Fakultaet fuer Physik
 Abt. Honerkamp
 Albert-Ludwigs-Universitaet Freiburg
 
 Tel.: 0761-203-5875
 Fax.: 0761-203-5967
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reading/logging boot messages

2000-05-22 Thread Kelly Corbin
Is there a way to view/log boot messages besides those generated by the
kernel i.e. besides dmesg?  I believe my modules are not loading
correctly at boot.  Thanks

Kelly Corbin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: reading/logging boot messages

2000-05-22 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
 Is there a way to view/log boot messages besides those generated by the
 kernel i.e. besides dmesg?  I believe my modules are not loading
 correctly at boot.  Thanks
 
look at /var/log/kern.log - at least on potato module output it there.

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Re: Re[2]: exim mail routing...

2000-05-22 Thread Gregory Guthrie

At 04:08 PM 05/22/2000 +0200, you wrote:

 /var/spool/exim/messaglog:
 2000-05-21 22:27:54 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 local_delivery transport deferred: Permission denied: creating lock file
 hitching post /var/spool/mail/admin.lock.alpha.cs.mum.edu.3928a93a.0ac9

i had a similar problem. is solved it with chmod 3777 /var/mail.
this is possibly not very clean, but it works.


-- yes, my /var/spool/mail is 755,  root mail
so mail could have trouble writing it,
I'll chmod g+w it and see what happens.

I wonder how such permissions got installed wrong?



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Re: reading/logging boot messages

2000-05-22 Thread David Wright
Quoting Kelly Corbin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Is there a way to view/log boot messages besides those generated by the
 kernel i.e. besides dmesg?  I believe my modules are not loading
 correctly at boot.  Thanks

Shift-PageUp (and PageDown)

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Re: reading/logging boot messages

2000-05-22 Thread Oswald Buddenhagen
 Quoting Kelly Corbin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  Is there a way to view/log boot messages besides those generated by the
  kernel i.e. besides dmesg?  I believe my modules are not loading
  correctly at boot.  Thanks
 
 Shift-PageUp (and PageDown)
 
but note, that this works only, if the virtual console was not switched,
so if {x,k,w,g}dm is run, this will be impossible.

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Re: ppp connection failure - re-post

2000-05-22 Thread David Wright
Quoting John Gould ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

I am running potato with kernel 2.2.15 installed. Whatever
 I do I cannot get ppp to connect to the local RAS server. Another box
 running 2.1r4 works perfectly. I have re-built the kernel several times
 and stripped out ppp and pppconfig and re-installed. Still I get the same
 error on connect. Can anyone help? Part of ppp connect from syslog shown
 below:-
 
 May 18 17:32:17 heman pppd[666]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS1
 May 18 17:32:18 heman pppd[666]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 asyncmap 0x0
 magic 0xe7f3fcfa pcomp accomp]
 May 18 17:32:45 heman last message repeated 9 times
 May 18 17:32:48 heman pppd[666]: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests

It looks as though you're receiving nothing. Try dialling with minicom.
Do you need to type PPP before the other end starts pppd (i.e. before
you get lots of {{{ coming back)? If so, you need to amend your
chatscript to send this after a suitable pause.

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Bug in installation of modules (network)

2000-05-22 Thread Brett Dalla
Package:  Initial installation and setup on a PC
Version:  Debian GNU/Linux Release 2.1
   (I think it comes up as kernel version 2.036  ??)

When installing the Linux onto the pc and going through all of the
modules to install
as part of building the core, I found an error in the NETWORK portion of
the load.

I have the D-Link DFE-530TX+ network card in the PC and found on the
internet
somewhere that the VIA Rhine module should work for this card.

The error occurs in the 'Configure Device Driver Modules' menu step -
under the 'net'
category of drivers.  When you choose the VIA Rhine family chip
Ethernet driver and
try to install it into the kernel, you get the error Parameter
documentation for this
module is unavailable.  When you hit return, you get put into the
Please enter any
command-line arguments for the via-rhine module.  Here is my
problem..  I have no
idea what the arguments could be.

I went to the D-Link page and found a link to a driver for Linux, but to
my avail, it is
not current.  It turned out that the driver file no longer exists on the
machine that the
link pointed to.

On the D-Link diskette that I have I found a copy of what looks like the
driver and
some instructions how to compile it and insert it into the kernel with
the 'insmod'
command.  (insmod rtl8139.o)  (source file is rtl8139.c compiled with
gcc)

The following steps to bind use the '/sbin/ifconfig' command on eth0 -
to add to routing
table using the '/sbin/route' command.  The steps on rebuilding the
kernel are also
included, but are a little beyond my knowledge right now.

I would appreciate any assistance possible on how to get around this - I
just want to
get my machine working on my home network with all of my other computers
and
printers.

Thank You
Brett Dalla
[EMAIL PROTECTED]





RE: rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob)

2000-05-22 Thread Richard Lyon
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Albert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, 21 May 2000 5:52 PM
 To: Karl M. Hegbloom
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad
 install prob)
 
 CrossBrand - BIOS upgrade/reference disks corrupted by Windows 95/98 
 Applicable Countries: Worldwide

Thanks for this information. This explains some of the floppy disk
corruptions we have at work. Does this still happen when
the disk write protect tab is open?

The cure is to clearly label every disk with a large warning.

Regards
Richard



RE: Realtime sched and floppy (Was: Re: rawrite broken from DOS-box under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob))

2000-05-22 Thread Richard Lyon
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Behalf Of Karl M. Hegbloom
 Sent: Sunday, 21 May 2000 12:08 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Robert Waldner; debian-user@lists.debian.org; Michael Skipper
 Subject: Realtime sched and floppy (Was: Re: rawrite broken from DOS-box
 under W98? (Was: Re: thinkpad install prob))

 Richard It works correctly from the dos box in WIN98 second
 Richard  edition. I wouldn't
 Richard recommend trying it while you have other application running.

  Linux has similar trouble under certain conditions.

The motivation for my comment is that you don't want any application trying
to access the drive apart from rawrite. You'll be suprised how often this
can
happen and it totally stuffs things up.

Regards
Richard





Re: I see everything twice.

2000-05-22 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 11:25 PM 5/21/00 -0600, montefin wrote:
Hi all,

How come I'm receiving two of most replies from this list. Not that I'm
complaining. The advice I receive here is ten times as informed and
actionable as from any other user-list. Just curious.

See if you get two copies of this one. If you don't, then the answer is
simple: you get two copies because the message is sent both to your e-mail
address and to the list. 

That's a common occurrance on lists that don't use Reply-to: munging
(please, everyone, this is just an explanation, not an attempt to open an
argument about the merits of the two approaches!), because it is the easiest
way for most people to include the list in replies. For example, I received
two copies of your message describing your good experiences with SouthWest
Cyberport and James.

And no, I don't recognize the line.

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Re: module loading problems

2000-05-22 Thread David Wright
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
 He downloaded kernel version 2.2.9.
 
 It was my first time installing a kernel 
 and we read from various sources before he
 became impatient. We then did the following:
 
 tar xzf /usr/src/kernel...tar.gz
 .
 .
 .
 make menuconfig
 make-kpkg clean 
 make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image
 dpkg -i ../kernel-image..deb
 
 With the new kernel installed we get the following
 messages:
 .
 .
 .
 calculating module dependencies ...done 
 loading modules: cdrom can't locate module cdrom
 snbfs can't locate module snbfs
 nfs can't locate module nfs
 ip_alias can't locate module ip_alias
 rarp can't locate module rarp
 cyclades can't locate module cyclades
 serial can't locate module serial
 3c509 can't locate module 3c509
 ppp /lib/modules/2.2.9/net/slhc.o unresolved symbol kmalloc_R93d4cfe6
 /lib/modules/2.2.9/net/slhc.o unresolved symbol print_Rdd172261
 /lib/modules/2.2.9/net/slhc.o unresolved symbol kfree_R037a0cba
 slhc:No such file or directory

The usual reason is that you need to edit /etc/modules.
When you installed, you probably loaded some modules at
the appropriate stage, and this writes these module names into
/etc/modules.

Now you've installed a new kernel, and it has different things
built in and different things compiled as modules. But when you
boot up, the init.d scripts will try to modprobe or insmod all
the modules listed in /etc/modules. Some may now be built in,
some you may not have built, etc.

 It a little irrating booting and rebooting just so as to be
 able to read boot messages.

Just press Shift-PageUp/PageDown (and don't switch VCs) to read
the boot up stuff.

Cheers,

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RE: module loading problems

2000-05-22 Thread Dominic Blythe
if everything necessary was compiled in, 
could you just delete everything from /etc/modules?

 -Original Message-
 From: David Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 22 May 2000 16:35
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: module loading problems
 
 
 Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
  
  He downloaded kernel version 2.2.9.
  
  It was my first time installing a kernel 
  and we read from various sources before he
  became impatient. We then did the following:
  
  tar xzf /usr/src/kernel...tar.gz
  .
  .
  .
  make menuconfig
  make-kpkg clean 
  make-kpkg --revision=custom.1.0 kernel_image
  dpkg -i ../kernel-image..deb
  
  With the new kernel installed we get the following
  messages:
  .
  .
  .
  calculating module dependencies ...done 
  loading modules: cdrom can't locate module cdrom
  snbfs can't locate module snbfs
  nfs can't locate module nfs
  ip_alias can't locate module ip_alias
  rarp can't locate module rarp
  cyclades can't locate module cyclades
  serial can't locate module serial
  3c509 can't locate module 3c509
  ppp /lib/modules/2.2.9/net/slhc.o unresolved symbol 
 kmalloc_R93d4cfe6
  /lib/modules/2.2.9/net/slhc.o unresolved symbol print_Rdd172261
  /lib/modules/2.2.9/net/slhc.o unresolved symbol kfree_R037a0cba
  slhc:No such file or directory
 
 The usual reason is that you need to edit /etc/modules.
 When you installed, you probably loaded some modules at
 the appropriate stage, and this writes these module names into
 /etc/modules.
 
 Now you've installed a new kernel, and it has different things
 built in and different things compiled as modules. But when you
 boot up, the init.d scripts will try to modprobe or insmod all
 the modules listed in /etc/modules. Some may now be built in,
 some you may not have built, etc.
 
  It a little irrating booting and rebooting just so as to be
  able to read boot messages.
 
 Just press Shift-PageUp/PageDown (and don't switch VCs) to read
 the boot up stuff.
 
 Cheers,
 
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Simple Text Editor with Synatx highlighting?

2000-05-22 Thread Frank Mehnert
Hi,

I'm using joe for many purposes. The only feature I miss is syntax
highlighting in C. Are there any hints for such a small and fast editor in
Debian with that feature built in?

Frank
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Re: Simple Text Editor with Synatx highlighting?

2000-05-22 Thread Sean
Frank Mehnert wrote:

 I'm using joe for many purposes. The only feature I miss is syntax
 highlighting in C. Are there any hints for such a small and fast editor in
 Debian with that feature built in?

VIM



Re: module loading problems

2000-05-22 Thread David Wright
Quoting Dominic Blythe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 if everything necessary was compiled in, 
 could you just delete everything from /etc/modules?

Yes, though the comments there might indicate some advantage
in putting noauto. But I much prefer not compiling everything
in. (In fact, you can't if you want certain drivers which
have to be compiled as modules.)

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Cleaning up the dpkg status file? [Was: Re: Debian vs Red Hat??? I need info.]

2000-05-22 Thread Joachim Trinkwitz
Ethan Benson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, May 20, 2000 at 07:07:00PM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote:
  That is a result of the fact that rpm uses a binary database for its
  data, while dpkg uses a large number of text-files instead. The
  advantage of that is that it is robust (if a single file gets corrupted
  it's not much of a problem), and that it is possible to fix or modify
  things by hand using a normal text editor if needed.
 
 this is a tremendous advantage of dpkg, it should never be changed to
 use a binary database.  the human readable/editable dpkg database has
 saved me from having to reinstall a system from scratch when the /var
 partition was destroyed and had to be restored with a slightly out of
 date backup.  dpkg was broken due to the inconsistent databases but it
 only took a little bit of editing to fix it.

Concerning this databases, a remark and a question: after a long time
of updating and upgrading, installing and purging, I've got the
impression that it takes longer and longer time for dpkg to read the
database before taking an action. When looking at the `status' file, I
can see numerous packages which I installed and tested and then purged
out again, many of them don't even exist any more in the Debian
packaging system. Would it help to start up dpkg a little bit quicker
if I clean up the database from all this stuff (and if yes, is there a
automatic way of doing this)?

Greetings and thanks for your answers,
joachim



upgrade to frozen failed.

2000-05-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
after a really successful upgrade of a slink machine to potato (a
server) i got excited and tried to do an upgrade on a workstation(with
pretty much everything from slink installed compared to a pretty bare
installation on the server) and it failed.

the package im hung at is gimp-manual.

if i try apt-get dist-upgrade:

Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  timezones tetex-extra dvidvi timidity-patches xproc secure-su lynx
  python-misc gedit mozilla libpam0g-util jadetex g++ scwm g77 tetex-bin
  python-net slrn ddd python-curses libstdc++2.9-dev sgmlspm egcc newt0.25
  ppp-pam python-bsddb lesstifg gmp2 kbd-data rgrep gobjc man-db timidity
  pdmenu r-cran libguile4-dev 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libpopt0 libmagick5 libncurses5 liblzo1 traceroute libpgsql2 fte-xwindow
  perl-5.004-base libwrap0 libpam-modules blas1 libopenldap1 perl-5.004
  libgtk1.2 ruptime libguile6 libglib1.2 librplay3 liburi-perl dpsclient
  libsane libpam-pwdb libpam-runtime rusers gnome-libs-data lockfile-progs
  vflib2 libpcre2 libart2 perl-5.004-suid mc-common gdk-imlib1
xpilot-server
  libi18n-langtags-perl zlib-bin itcl3.0 libmysqlclient6 tcpd
  libopenldap-runtime rdate libgd-gif1 librecode0 perl-5.004-doc tftp
finger
  sgmlspl icmpinfo rwho bootpc rdist ftp tetex-lib rwall libgmp2
console-data
  lesstif1 libcdparanoia0 ntp rwhod libtext-format-perl libasound1 fping
  libbz2 libnspr4 libaudiofile0 libgsm1 gettext-base tcl8.2 tcl8.3
  libsgmls-perl alsa-base liborbit0 tk8.2 tk8.3 rsh-client ntpdate
libnewt0
  libreadline4 pidentd blas-dev liblockfile1 
The following packages have been kept back
  gnuplot menu flying fakeroot auctex libcurses-perl wvdial groff
  libcompress-zlib-perl libtime-hires-perl synaesthesia xbill libgtk-perl
  nighthawk swish++ libhtml-parser-perl libterm-readkey-perl eperl sp
djtools
  plotutils ivtools-dev lincity-svga octave htdig pstoedit apt xevil cvs
eterm
  libgtkmm-dev libgtkmm dpkg xbuffy luxman xlockmore word2x vrweb cdrdao
wm2
  dxpc vim xjig ical libmime-base64-perl tkmixer jade xkobo libpgperl
  moonlight perl-tk phalanx fvwm wmmail perlmagick wxhelp xosview 
475 packages upgraded, 81 newly installed, 36 to remove and 57 not
upgraded.
1 packages not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/198MB of archives. After unpacking 71.2MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
E: Internal Error, Couldn't configure a pre-depend

any way to fix that ? or should i try just upgrade (below):

if i just try an apt-get upgrade :

it says the same thing about the packages and when i say Y it goes:

Setting up gimp-manual (1.0.0-4) ...
dhelp_parse: You can add only directories under /usr/doc!

dpkg: error processing gimp-manual (--configure):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 gimp-manual
E: Sub-process returned an error code (1)


how can i get around this? i can't force it, i cant remove it no matter
what i do, is there some way i can tell dpkg to ignore it? or force remove
it? or edit a file somewhere so it doesnt know its there? help!!

nate

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autmagically install -dev and -doc packages

2000-05-22 Thread Rainer Clasen
Hi!

Does anybody know an easy way to install -doc and -dev packages
automatically when installing a certain package? Say I select libgtk1.2 in
dselect and it suggests libgtk1.2-dev, libgtk1.2 and libgtk1.2-dbg, too.

Adding Suggests: *-dev, *-dbg to each Package is a) much work b)
annoying if you don't want -dev installed by default.

In this example it could be done using the Source: field. All Packages
have Source: gtk+1.2, but I suppose thats not The Right Thing.


Rainer

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