Re: [ HS ]webcalendar
Bonsoir, J'ai donc essayé phenix, et je dois dire que c'est pas mal, il manque juste une mise en page d'impression pour les résultats de recherche, parce qu'en l'état, il faudrait qu'elle imprime une page A4 pour donner la liste des rendez-vous à son patient... pas très écologique ni pratique. Quoi qu'il en soit merci à tous pour ces infos. Luc Toujours pour le pôle emploi, je me suis fait un script qui pioche dans la base ce qui m'intéresse, je dois pouvoir l'adapter pour qu'il propose une zone de recherche Nom + Prénom (copier/collé pour utilisaton dans modèle de facture sur votre traitement de texte favoris) -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100821080421.77212...@morpheus.bulot-fr.com
Re: Passage de lenny à squeeze
Bonjour à tous, Le Friday 20 August 2010 18:01:10 Sylvain Sauvage, vous avez écrit : [Coupe tes lignes. Et tu peux éviter le HTML aussi.] Hubert Talbot, vendredi 20 août 2010, 11:08:40 CEST Je viens de lire ceci sur http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17t=54184: To upgrade change the sources.list from lenny to squeeze (or from stable to testing). apt-get update apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 boot in that kernel. Then run: apt-get install aptitude apt dpkg apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade Ok, perso ça ne me dérange pas de réaliser une telle manip. Mais rassurez moi, les utilisateurs finaux, ils ne devront pas suivre aussi cette procédure ?? Ma question: Comment peut-on simuler/tester la procédure qui sera réaliser lors de la sortie de Squeeze ? Mon objectif étant d'apprécier son côté user-friendly. Bon week-end à tous. Salokine. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008210935.05774.salokine.ter...@free.fr
Re: Creer un point d'acces wifi
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:10:26AM +0200, luc schimpf wrote: Le 20/08/2010 17:42, Yves Rutschle a écrit : Mon point de vue (pour le moment, car je ne suis pas arrivé au bout de ma refléxion sur le sujet) c'est qu'une langue ne sert qu'à communiquer. L'usage que l'on fera de la langue est donc primordial. C'est aussi pour ça que l'engouement pour les langues régionales mourrantes me laisse perplexe, car maintenir une langue en vie juste pour qu'elle ne meure pas ne me semble pas productif. La langue est aussi le véhicule de la culture, je suis alsacien, et je pratique notre dialecte, je reconnais qu'il est en-train de disparaître mais je ne peux m'y résoudre L'argument culturel est celui qui est toujours avancé pour la sauvegarde de ces langues. Il me laisse perplexe, dans la mesure où il y a des cultures différentes qui vivent avec la même langue (example simple avec l'anglais: la culture du Texas n'est pas du tout celle de l'Écosse). Si l'Alsace cessait subitement entièrement de parler alsacien, elle ne perdrait pas pour antant sa culture culinaire, architecturale, son histoire, etc. Je me demande dans quelle mesure cet argument n'est pas du protectionnisme régional, où la langue est utilisée comme outil d'exclusion de l'étranger qui ne la parle pas. C'est ce genre d'argument qu'on retrouve finalement sur les forums qui soutiennent l'introduction de l'occitan dans le métro de Toulouse. C'est la partie de ma refléxion que je n'ai pas terminée :) il y a tant de concept qui ne sont simplement pas exprimables en français ou en allemand (les deux composante du dialecte alsacien) que ce serait une vrai perte, et à terme, l'Alsace perdrait toute sa spécificité. Franchement, je ne pense que rien de tout ça ne soit vrai. Il est extrèmement rare qu'on ne puisse pas exprimer un concept dans une langue. Le seul exemple qui me vienne à l'eprit est le Schadenfreude allemand, effectivement difficile à traduire. De même pour la spécificité: l'Australie n'est pas comme l'Écosse, et ils n'ont pas besoin de langue pour ça. À Toulouse on mange du cassoulet plus souvent que de la choucroute, à Strasbourg c'est le contraire, et la langue parlée n'y changera pas grand chose. Alors, peut-être que tu ne considères pas la sauvegarde d'une culture comme quelque chose de productif Non, je refuse de confondre culture et langue, ça me parait justement un amalgame qui est utilisé par tous les défenseurs des langes régionales, sans qu'il ne soit jamais prouvé. Dans l'histoire de la tour de Babel, les auteurs identifient clairement la création des langues comme une plaie, car les humains deviennent incapables de communiquer entre eux. Une langue peut avoir deux buts: communiquer, ou exclure ceux qui ne la parle pas. Y. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100821073910.ga30...@naryves.com
Re: [ HS ]webcalendar
Le Friday 20 Aug 2010 à 19:51:56 (+0200), Grégory Bulot a écrit : [...] J'utilise phenix agenda [http://www.phenix.gapi.fr/], il existe une version gratuite (que j'utilise) et une version payante. [...] Moui... Mais il n'y a plus d'activité sur le site depuis octobre 2008... Pourtant la derniere version (celle qui est payante) date de 2008. J'ai l'impression que le manque de communauté et de contributeurs à ce projet vient de son mode particulier de disponibilité des sources (payant pour la derniere version, gratuit pour les plus anciennes). Pas de communauté = pas de perrenité... :-( Même si le produit etait bon. Mais peut etre que je me trompe, que l'application continuer à avancer mais que le site n'est plus mis à jour... Fanfan -- Après tout, il faut avoir une jeunesse. L'âge où l'on se décide à être jeune importe peu... [ Henri Duvernois ] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[HS] langues régionales [était: Creer un point d'acces wifi]
Yves Rutschle, samedi 21 août 2010, 09:39:10 CEST […] L'argument culturel est celui qui est toujours avancé pour la sauvegarde de ces langues. Il me laisse perplexe, dans la mesure où il y a des cultures différentes qui vivent avec la même langue (example simple avec l'anglais: la culture du Texas n'est pas du tout celle de l'Écosse). Hmm, les Texans parlent américain à 70% ; 30% l’espagnol. Et les Écossais parlent leur anglais (« britannique ») avec un accent, hum, bien à eux (l’erse ne semble parlé que par 5% des Écossais). On pourrait arguer qu’ils ne parlent pas la même langue. D’ailleurs, « We have really everything in common with America nowadays except, of course, language », Oscar Wilde. Bon, on a aussi « England and America are two countries divided by a common language », George Bernard Shaw… Si l'Alsace cessait subitement entièrement de parler alsacien, elle ne perdrait pas pour antant sa culture culinaire, architecturale, son histoire, etc. Je me demande dans quelle mesure cet argument n'est pas du protectionnisme régional, où la langue est utilisée comme outil d'exclusion de l'étranger qui ne la parle pas. C'est ce genre d'argument qu'on retrouve finalement sur les forums qui soutiennent l'introduction de l'occitan dans le métro de Toulouse. C'est la partie de ma refléxion que je n'ai pas terminée :) La langue structure la pensée. Cf. la novlangue. P.ex. mon cerveau de francophone (langue analytique) ne peut s’empêcher de penser que l’anglais est une plaie en ce qui concerne la précision ou que les Japonais feraient aussi bien de pointer du doigt tant leurs propos sont contextuels… En fait, la défense des langues régionales est un retour de balancier, contre p.ex. ce que la France a fait pour s’unifier depuis, oh, l’ordonnance de Villers-Coterêt… Comme tout retour de balancier, ça va pêche parfois par excès. il y a tant de concept qui ne sont simplement pas exprimables en français ou en allemand (les deux composante du dialecte alsacien) que ce serait une vrai perte, et à terme, l'Alsace perdrait toute sa spécificité. Franchement, je ne pense que rien de tout ça ne soit vrai. Il est extrèmement rare qu'on ne puisse pas exprimer un concept dans une langue. Le seul exemple qui me vienne à l'eprit est le Schadenfreude allemand, effectivement difficile à traduire. Il y a toujours ceux qui crient à l’impossibilité de vraiment traduire tel mot ou telle expression (traduttore traditore) mais on peut toujours expliquer, exprimer tout dans n’importe quelle langue naturelle, surtout si elle est vivante (puisqu’on peut y ajouter de nouveaux mots). Ensuite, le mot va être adopté parce que : plus concis qu’une circolocution, plus facile que de chercher dans un vocabulaire que l’on a pas, effet de mode (donc d’exclusion), etc. […] Non, je refuse de confondre culture et langue, ça me parait justement un amalgame qui est utilisé par tous les défenseurs des langes régionales, sans qu'il ne soit jamais prouvé. Une culture lie des individus (donc les sépare des autres). La langue fait partie de la culture. La réciproque n’est pas vraie. Toutefois, fais disparaître une langue régionale (p.ex. le breton), que reste-t-il aux Bretons pour se distinguer des autres Français ? Le pull marin ? Les chapeaux ronds ? Tu enlèves la langue et tu perds une grosse part de ce qui fait une culture, tu enlèves ce qui lie, ce qui véhicule cette culture (arts, histoire, traditions…). Il y a des cultures sans langue distinctive mais une langue permet de « rassembler » une culture autour d’elle. Dans l'histoire de la tour de Babel, les auteurs identifient clairement la création des langues comme une plaie, car les humains deviennent incapables de communiquer entre eux. Partisan de la théorie de la langue primordiale unique ? Une langue peut avoir deux buts: communiquer, ou exclure ceux qui ne la parle pas. Les jargons et argots sont suffisants pour l’exclusion. -- Sylvain Sauvage -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100821115514.3c1be...@ithil
Re: [ HS ]webcalendar
Le Friday 20 Aug 2010 à 19:51:56 (+0200), Grégory Bulot a écrit : [...] J'utilise phenix agenda [http://www.phenix.gapi.fr/], il existe une version gratuite (que j'utilise) et une version payante. [...] Moui... Mais il n'y a plus d'activité sur le site depuis octobre 2008... Pourtant la derniere version (celle qui est payante) date de 2008. _C'est_pas_faux_(c)_, Mais je n'ai pas trouvé mieux adapté à mes besoins (et je pense aussi à l'auteur de ce fil de discussion), tant pis pour les maj (sécu/fonctionnalitées). Pour avoir quelque chose d'approchant, il faut effectivement taper dans du egroupware (l'appli et la thématique) ... et c'est plutôt poids lourd. Phenix me permet de gérer tous mes contacts - depuis un point unique (marre du carnet pour claws à synchroniser pour plusieurs pc puis truc, bidule), - leurs anniversaires, puis : - météo locale, - agenda partagé pour toute la famille Beaucoups plus facilement qu'egroupware (pour des utilisateurs non techniques) -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100821120058.79660...@morpheus.bulot-fr.com
[up] [lenny]Redmine c'est possible ?
Bonjour, Je me permet ce 'up', au cas ou ma question serait passé au travers des mailles du filet. Je remet en copie mon mail initial ci-dessous Si effectivement si personne ne peux/souhaite répondre, désolé pour le bruit ... Bonjour, ça fait plusieurs tutos que j'essais pour installer redmine, mais c'est toujours un échec pour les pré-requis. je bloque toujours au même endroit : rake db:migrate RAILS_ENV=production (in /home/redmine/redmine-1.0.0) rake aborted! Could not find RubyGem rack (~ 1.0.1) # gem install -v=1.0.1 rails ERROR: could not find gem rails locally or in a repository # gem environment RubyGems Environment: - RUBYGEMS VERSION: 1.2.0 - RUBY VERSION: 1.8.7 (2008-08-11 patchlevel 72) [i486-linux] - INSTALLATION DIRECTORY: /var/lib/gems/1.8 - RUBY EXECUTABLE: /usr/bin/ruby1.8 - EXECUTABLE DIRECTORY: /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin - RUBYGEMS PLATFORMS: - ruby - x86-linux - GEM PATHS: - /var/lib/gems/1.8 - GEM CONFIGURATION: - :update_sources = true - :verbose = true - :benchmark = false - :backtrace = false - :bulk_threshold = 1000 - REMOTE SOURCES: - http://gems.rubyforge.org/ # gem install rails ERROR: could not find gem rails locally or in a repository $ dpkg -l rubygems rails rack ii rails 2.1.0-7 ii rubygems 1.2.0-3 Aucun paquet ne correspond à rack. # gem list *** LOCAL GEMS *** # gem update --system ERROR: While executing gem ... (RuntimeError) gem update --system is disabled on Debian. RubyGems can be updated using the official Debian repositories by aptitude or apt-get. j'ai fais du : aptitude install install ruby rake librmagick-ruby subversion aptitude libmysql-ruby mysql-client rubygems aptitude install libfcgi-ruby1.8 97 aptitude install ruby rake rubygems aptitude aptitude install libmysql-ruby libopenssl-ruby aptitude install rails note : un tuto type essayé (celui est pour etch, mais ceux pour lenny sont équivalent pour le résultat) : http://howto.landure.fr/gnu-linux/debian-4-0-etch/installer-le-gestionnaire-de-projet-redmine-sur-debian-4-0-etch il y a eu un test ou je suis allé plus loin mais c'est activesupport qui foirait (sur incompatibilité de version entre rails et activesupport ) -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100821120441.75b97...@morpheus.bulot-fr.com
Re: Passage de lenny à squeeze
[coupez vos lignes] Salokine Terata, samedi 21 août 2010, 09:35:05 CEST Bonjour à tous, ’jour, […] Ok, perso ça ne me dérange pas de réaliser une telle manip. Mais rassurez moi, les utilisateurs finaux, ils ne devront pas suivre aussi cette procédure ?? Je n’ai que des utilisateurs finauds. Bon ok, celui-ci n’est pas le fil sur la langue donc je vais faire comme si « utilisateur final » voulait dire quelque chose : l’utilisateur n’a pas à réaliser cette manip., c’est l’administrateur qui la fera. Je vois mal comment éviter de rebouter sur le nouveau noyau avant de continuer. La procédure de mise à jour sera mise à jour quand ce sera prêt… Regarde p.ex. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.fr.html pour voir la complétude de la procédure. Ma question: Comment peut-on simuler/tester la procédure qui sera réaliser lors de la sortie de Squeeze ? Mon objectif étant d'apprécier son côté user-friendly. Ben cf. la même référence : c’est long, c’est complet, c’est technique, donc c’est pas neuneu-amical, c’est admin-amical… -- Sylvain Sauvage -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100821120730.179d5...@ithil
Re: [up] [lenny]Redmine c'est possible ?
Grégory Bulot, samedi 21 août 2010, 12:04:41 CEST Bonjour, ’jour, Je me permet ce 'up', au cas ou ma question serait passé au travers des mailles du filet. Je remet en copie mon mail initial ci-dessous Si effectivement si personne ne peux/souhaite répondre, désolé pour le bruit ... Sans doute parce ceux qui utilisent Redmine utilisent Testing ou Sid qui ont des paquets redmine et rails à jour. Ou bien utilisent-ils directement le tarball complet de redmine (donc rails inclus). Sinon, Redmine 0.9 est sur backports… -- Sylvain Sauvage -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100821121446.1f157...@ithil
Re: Passage de lenny à squeeze
Le 20/08/2010 21:54, Sylvain Sauvage a écrit : Guillaume, vendredi 20 août 2010, 20:30:49 CEST […] Bonjour, J'ai fait la transition de lenny vers squeeze il y a quelques jours ... et ça a été la galère. Squeeze est en période de gel (en plein mois d’août !), c’est le moment de faire des rapports de bogue de mise-à -jour. (Circonstanciés, les rapports. Avec les messages d’erreur et tout.) Concernant udev et hal, cela a été remonté. C'est comme ça que j'ai vu d'où venaient mes ennuis et comment les résoudre. J'ai rien vu sur sqlite. Je suis passé à squeeze pour justement aider à résoudre les bugs donc dans quelques jours j'aurai du temps pour creuser ce pb et voir s'il n'a pas été déjà remonté. [...] […] - udev : ca a aussi été un gros problème avant que je comprenne qu'il fallait mettre à jour le noyau AVANT udev. Car apt/aptitude dit bien qu'il compte mettre à jour udev, le kernel et tout, mais il le fait dans le mauvais sens. Il faut donc mettre à jour le noyau tout seul (apt-get remove kernel-Je-Sais-Plus-Combien puis apt-get install kernel-2.6.32== je suis pas sûr de l'orthographe, mais c'est la bonne version en tout cas). Ensuite apt-get install udev hal. Et oui, il faut lire et relire le message : le noyau ne doit pas être seulement installé avant udev, on doit booter dessus (donc, que ce ne peut être fait « dans le mauvais sens » puisque tu dois le faire en deux fois avec un reboot au milieu). Il y a peut-être eu le message quand j'ai fait la mise à jour avec aptitude, mais c'était pas super explicite. Je m'attendais à avoir plein de messages de warning, alors j'ai pas trop fait gaffe. Puis de toute façon, je suis plutôt du genre, je fonce, je casse tout et ensuite je répare ... j'aime bien :) Autre chose : ne pas désinstaller le noyau précédent. Il ne gêne en rien le démarrage sur le nouveau noyau et permet de revenir à un système qui démarre si le nouveau ne veut pas. [...] - Icedove et aptitude : à cause d'une erreur de sqlite (que je n'ai toujours pas résolue), je n'arrive pas à utiliser aptitude, ni icedove. Quelle erreur ? pour aptitude c'est undefined symbol : sqlite3_db_mutex. Pour icedove c'est : /usr/lib/icedove/icedove-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/icedove/components/libstoragecomps.so: undefined symbol: sqlite3_config Aujourd'hui, j'ai télécharger thunderbird directement sur mozilla.org et ca fonctionne (j'ai repris les paramètres de mes comptes mails et mes emails en copiant ~/.icedove/Uh5sd54f.default dans ~/.thunderbird/ et où j'ai édité ~/.icedove/profiles.ini pour qu'il prenne en compte le bon répertoire de stockage (pour moi, c'était Uh5sd54f.default). Vilain. Les paquets sont là pour ça. Et puis, Uxxx, c’est un nom aléatoire pour éviter que des scripts puissent lire tes données personnelles. Donc maintenant, merci, on connait ton IP (qui se ballade dans les en-têtes de ton courriel), ton répertoire profile et on n’a plus qu’à attendre que tu passes sur un de nos sites bourrés de méchants scripts pour lire tes infos. Oui bon, ok, probabilité nulle… J'ai mis une chaîne de caractère au pif, héhé ! [...] […] Avec tous ces problèmes, ca m'a pris une soirée, pas plus. La prochaine fois, prends ton temps, tu en gagneras ;o) D'un autre côté, je me suis bien amusé et ça m'a permis de faire un peu le ménage dans les logiciels installés ... ce n'est donc pas du temps de perdu. Guillaume -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c6faa9f.9000...@sfr.fr
Configuration NFSv4 et mappages différents selon partages
Bonjour la liste ! Bon, j'ai un problème de configuration avec NFSv4. J'essaie de mettre en place des partages avec des mappages utilisateurs différents car je veux publier des répertoires utilisés par des services différents. Les répertoires en question : * /share/Musique - /var/lib/mpd/music, appartenant à mpd (uid 105) * /share/Torrents - /var/lib/transmission-daemon, appartenant à debian-transmission (uid 107) Comme je n'ai pas envie de gérer les correspondances d'UID sur plusieurs machines, je voudrais que le montage donne automatiquement les droits en fonction du répertoire. En lisant la page de man, j'ai écrit ce /etc/exports : /share target(rw,sync,fsid=0,crossmnt) /share/Torrents target(rw,sync,all_squash,anonuid=107) /share/Musique target(rw,sync,all_squash,anonuid=105) Si j'enlève la racine, ça fonctionne en montant en NFSv3, mais pas en NFSv4. J'ai l'impression qu'il n'y a plus qu'un seul partage, celui de la racine, et que son paramétrage prédomine sur celui des autres : si je lui ajoute un all_squash et anonuid, les deux partages sont montés avec l'UID de la racine. Du coup, je me pose la question : est-ce que ce que je souhaites faire est possible avec NFSv4 ? Je précise que je pourrais bien sûr n'employer qu'un seul utilisateur qui pourrait accéder à tous les fichiers via des ACL, mais je n'aime pas l'idée de tout autoriser à un seul utilisateur. Merci d'avance ! -- Guillaume signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Passage de lenny à squeeze
Re, Pour rentrer un peu dans le vif du sujet ... désolé j'attache beaucoup d'important à l'utilisateur lambda. En fait autant qu'à utilisateur des outils bas niveaux. « utilisateur final » voulait dire quelque chose : l’utilisateur n’a pas à réaliser cette manip., c’est l’administrateur qui la fera. Ok, en partant du principe qu'on travail sur une distribution jouant le rôle de serveur, ma question ne se pose pas, c'est hors sujet. Je suis d'accord. En se positionnant sur un point de vue desktop/laptop ou autre, il existe des outils déjà adaptés pour réaliser ce genre d'upgrade. Je pense notament à update-manager et update-notifier. Je ne les utilise pas, mais je crois me souvenir que ce genre d'outil oriente bien l'utilisateur final. Peuvent-ils demander un premier reboot après une première session de mise à jour (le noyau dans notre cas), puis continuer la suite des séquences d'upgrade ? Pour faire l'analogie avec un certain OS conça à Redmond, j'ai déjà vu ce genre de mise à jour nécessitant un redémarrage après un premier lot d'update. Nos amis de Canonical le gère aussi je crois. Je vois mal comment éviter de rebouter sur le nouveau noyau avant de continuer. La procédure de mise à jour sera mise à jour quand ce sera prêt… Comme indiqué précédement, je ne remet pas en cause les actions à réaliser, seulement la manière de les réaliser. L'utilisateur final, pour moi ce n'est pas un informaticien. Il ne doit pas se soucier de son système. Ce qu'il veut c'est l'utiliser et qu'il marche de manière sécurisé. Je ne dis pas que c'est facile bien au contraire. Il est très difficle de réaliser quelque chose de simple en apparence. Regarde p.ex. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.fr.h tml pour voir la complétude de la procédure. Oui, cette procédure est nécessaire et directement réalisable par les personnes ayant une certaine connaissance de l'informatique et de Debian. Maintenant cette procédure est-elle réalisable par le biais d'un GUI compréhensible par le commun des mortels. Ma question: Comment peut-on simuler/tester la procédure qui sera réaliser lors de la sortie de Squeeze ? Mon objectif étant d'apprécier son côté user-friendly. Ben cf. la même référence : c’est long, c’est complet, c’est technique, donc c’est pas neuneu-amical, c’est admin-amical… Sans cracher dans la soupe (je suis un admin-amical ;-)), Debian n'a-t-il pas vocation à être un OS Universel ? Dans cette notion, je comprend qu'en plus d'être universel dans son type d'utilisation, ses architectures, et bientôt ses noyaux (ça c'est vraiement génial, j'aurais telement voulu voir un Debian/kOpenSolrais ... mince CDDL ... je m'écarte du sujet ...), il est également universel dans son utilisation et plus particulièrement dans son accessibilité. Elle ne doit pas être restriente aux connaisseurs, mais également aux utilisateurs (au premier sens du terme). Enfin, pour faire avancer techniquement la problématique du reboot (c'est bien beau de parler, mais il faut proposer !), ne peut-on associer (Tag ou autre) une notion de séquence d'installation à un paquet DANS LE CAS D'UN UPGRADE. Par exemple, dans notre cas trois séquences nommées séquence #1, séquence #2 et others. On associe le kernel à séquence #1, les outils apt à séquence #2, tous les autres paquets à others. Pour terminer, on défini également des caractèristiques supplémentaires à une séquence notament un flag stipulant la nécessité de reboot en fin de séquence. Dans notre cas, la séquence #1 serait flager reboot after upgrade successful = YES par exemple. ... je sais c'est pas facile. Bon week-end. Salokine -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008211413.32639.salokine.ter...@free.fr
libc6
Les NOUVEAUX paquets suivants vont être installés : Les paquets suivants seront mis à jour : �: dpkg : erreur de traitement de /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.11.2-2_i386.deb (--unpack) : le l'exécution : /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.11.2-2_i386.deb [ R Hunter version 1.3.6 ] File updated: searched for 163 files, found 139 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code réparation : dpkg : des problèmes de dépendances e configuration de libc6-dev : libc6-dev dépend de libc6 (= 2.11. cependant : La version de libc6 sur le système est 2.9-23. dpkg : erreur de traitement de libc6-dev (--configure) : problèmes de dépendances - laissé non configuré dpkg : des problèmes de dépendances empê chent la confi -- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/99aa7$4c6fe502$b25384fc$10...@news.hispeed.ch
Re: libc6[résolu]
Le Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:50:02 +0200, jean jmon...@balcab.ch a __crit : solution trouvé ici: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user-french@lists.debian.org/msg147104.h Les NOUVEAUX paquets suivants vont __tre install__s__: Les paquets suivants seront mis __ jour__: _: dpkg__: erreur de traitement de /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.11.2-2_i386.deb (--unpack)__: le l'ex__cution__: /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.11.2-2_i386.deb [ R Hunter version 1.3.6 ] File updated: searched for 163 files, found 139 E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code r__paration__: dpkg__: des probl__mes de d__pendances e configuration de libc6-dev__: libc6-dev d__pend de libc6 (= 2.11. cependant__: La version de libc6 sur le syst__me est 2.9-23. dpkg__: erreur de traitement de libc6-dev (--configure)__: probl__mes de d__pendances - laiss__ non configur__ dpkg__: des probl__mes de d__pendances emp__ chent la confi -- La fièvre typhoïde est une maladie terrible. Ou on en meurt, ou o n en reste idiot. Et je sais de quoi je parle, je l’ai eue. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/3c6de$4c6feec7$b25384fc$16...@news.hispeed.ch
Re: libc6[résolu]
On Saturday 21 August 2010 17:20:38 jean wrote: Le Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:50:02 +0200, jean jmon...@balcab.ch a __crit : solution trouvé ici: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user-french@lists.debian.org/msg147104.h Es-tu sur du lien? J'ai erreur 404 quand je le clique. Thierry -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008211810.21498.tchate...@free.fr
Re: [up] [lenny]Redmine c'est possible ?
Grégory Bulot, samedi 21 août 2010, 12:04:41 CEST Bonjour, ’jour, Je me permet ce 'up', au cas ou ma question serait passé au travers des mailles du filet. Je remet en copie mon mail initial ci-dessous Si effectivement si personne ne peux/souhaite répondre, désolé pour le bruit ... Sans doute parce ceux qui utilisent Redmine utilisent Testing ou Sid qui ont des paquets redmine et rails à jour. en fait je n'utilise pas les paquets debian, car j'ai l'erreur suivante après avoir choisi le type de base de donnée (dbconfig-common) # aptitude install -t lenny-backports redmine [...] rake aborted! undefined method `new' for Rack::Head:String == trace == ruby /usr/bin/rake -s redmine:load_default_data RAILS_ENV=production X_DEBIAN_SITEID=default REDMINE_LANG=fr --trace rake aborted! No Rakefile found (looking for: rakefile, Rakefile, rakefile.rb, Rakefile.rb) /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:2377:in `raw_load_rakefile' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:2017:in `load_rakefile' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:2068:in `standard_exception_handling' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:2016:in `load_rakefile' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:2000:in `run' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:2068:in `standard_exception_handling' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:1998:in `run' /usr/bin/rake:28 Ou bien utilisent-ils directement le tarball complet de redmine (donc rails inclus). toujours eu des problèmes avec rake (de mémoire, j'ai pas noté malheureusement Sinon, Redmine 0.9 est sur backports… Idem version squeeze, rake aborted (mode sqlite) -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100821181756.28de5...@morpheus.bulot-fr.com
Re: libc6[résolu]
Le Sat, 21 Aug 2010 18:20:02 +0200, Thierry Chatelet tchate...@free.fr a écrit : On Saturday 21 August 2010 17:20:38 jean wrote: Le Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:50:02 +0200, jean jmon...@balcab.ch a __crit : solution trouvé ici: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user-french@lists.debian.org/msg1471 http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-user-french@lists.debian.org/msg147104.h tml -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4453c$4c70014d$b25384fc$26...@news.hispeed.ch
[lenny]Redmine c'est possible ?
Grégory Bulot, samedi 21 août 2010, 12:04:41 CEST Bonjour, ’jour, Je me permet ce 'up', au cas ou ma question serait passé au travers des mailles du filet. Je remet en copie mon mail initial ci-dessous Si effectivement si personne ne peux/souhaite répondre, désolé pour le bruit ... Sans doute parce ceux qui utilisent Redmine utilisent Testing ou Sid qui ont des paquets redmine et rails à jour. en fait je n'utilise pas les paquets debian, car j'ai l'erreur suivante après avoir choisi le type de base de donnée (dbconfig-common) # aptitude install -t lenny-backports redmine [...] rake aborted! undefined method `new' for Rack::Head:String == trace == ruby /usr/bin/rake -s redmine:load_default_data RAILS_ENV=production X_DEBIAN_SITEID=default REDMINE_LANG=fr --trace rhhaaa, j'étais pas dans le bon répertoire /usr/share/redmine # ruby /usr/bin/rake -s redmine:load_default_data RAILS_ENV=production X_DEBIAN_SITEID=default REDMINE_LANG=fr --trace /root/redmine.txt 21 rien dans /root/redmine.txt ! tout sur la console ... rake aborted! undefined method `new' for Rack::Head:String /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/action_controller/middleware_stack.rb:116:in `inject' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/action_controller/middleware_stack.rb:116:in `build' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/action_controller/dispatcher.rb:130:in `build_middleware_stack' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/action_controller/dispatcher.rb:81:in `initialize' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/action_controller/dispatcher.rb:51:in `new' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/action_controller/dispatcher.rb:51:in `run_prepare_callbacks' /usr/share/redmine/config/../vendor/rails/railties/lib/initializer.rb:631:in `prepare_dispatcher' /usr/share/redmine/config/../vendor/rails/railties/lib/initializer.rb:185:in `process' /usr/share/redmine/config/../vendor/rails/railties/lib/initializer.rb:113:in `send' /usr/share/redmine/config/../vendor/rails/railties/lib/initializer.rb:113:in `run' /usr/share/redmine/config/environment.rb:44 /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `gem_original_require' /usr/local/lib/site_ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in `require' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/active_support/dependencies.rb:156:in `require' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/active_support/dependencies.rb:521:in `new_constants_in' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/active_support/dependencies.rb:156:in `require' /usr/share/redmine/vendor/rails/railties/lib/tasks/misc.rake:4 /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:636:in `call' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:636:in `execute' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:631:in `each' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:631:in `execute' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:597:in `invoke_with_call_chain' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/monitor.rb:242:in `synchronize' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:590:in `invoke_with_call_chain' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:607:in `invoke_prerequisites' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:604:in `each' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:604:in `invoke_prerequisites' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:596:in `invoke_with_call_chain' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/monitor.rb:242:in `synchronize' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:590:in `invoke_with_call_chain' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:583:in `invoke' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:2051:in `invoke_task' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:2029:in `top_level' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:2029:in `each' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:2029:in `top_level' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:2068:in `standard_exception_handling' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:2023:in `top_level' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:2001:in `run' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:2068:in `standard_exception_handling' /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rake.rb:1998:in `run' /usr/bin/rake:28 -- Cordialement Grégory BULOT -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100821184437.0df76...@morpheus.bulot-fr.com
Problème de connexion Wifi
Salut, J'ai un drôle de problème de connexion Wifi sur une Freebox. Le PC Debian en question a une carte Wifi PCI D-Link DWL-G520, elle utilise le pilote Ath5k. La carte est bien reconnu par les noyaux 2.6.3x: cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain ath5k :05:04.0: PCI INT A - GSI 17 (level, low) - IRQ 17 ath5k :05:04.0: registered as 'phy0' ath: EEPROM regdomain: 0x30 ath: EEPROM indicates we should expect a direct regpair map ath: Country alpha2 being used: AM ath: Regpair used: 0x30 phy0: Selected rate control algorithm 'minstrel' ath5k phy0: Atheros AR2414 chip found (MAC: 0x79, PHY: 0x45) cfg80211: Calling CRDA for country: AM Dans Network-Manager, iwlist ou iw on voit bien la Freebox (WEP basique pour les tests) : $ sudo iwlist wlan0 scan wlan0 Scan completed : Cell 01 - Address: 00:11:22:33:44:55 Channel:6 Frequency:2.437 GHz (Channel 6) Quality=21/70 Signal level=-89 dBm Encryption key:on ESSID:freebox_TOTO Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s Bit Rates:6 Mb/s; 9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s; 24 Mb/s 36 Mb/s; 48 Mb/s; 54 Mb/s Mode:Master Extra:tsf=000bacdc167c Extra: Last beacon: 684ms ago IE: Unknown: 000E66726565626F785F525156485545 IE: Unknown: 010482848B96 IE: Unknown: 030106 IE: Unknown: 05040001 IE: Unknown: 2A0104 IE: Unknown: 32080C1218243048606C Et lorsque que j'essaye de me connecter, j'ai des timeout : NetworkManager[1347]: info Activation (wlan0/wireless): connection 'Auto freebox_TOTO' has security, and secrets exist. No new secrets needed. NetworkManager[1347]: info Config: added 'ssid' value 'freebox_TOTO' NetworkManager[1347]: info Config: added 'scan_ssid' value '1' NetworkManager[1347]: info Config: added 'key_mgmt' value 'NONE' NetworkManager[1347]: info Config: added 'auth_alg' value 'OPEN' NetworkManager[1347]: info Config: added 'wep_key0' value 'omitted' NetworkManager[1347]: info Config: added 'wep_tx_keyidx' value '0' NetworkManager[1347]: info Activation (wlan0) Stage 2 of 5 (Device Configure) complete. NetworkManager[1347]: info Config: set interface ap_scan to 1 NetworkManager[1347]: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state: inactive - scanning wpa_supplicant[1368]: Trying to associate with 00:11:22:33:44:55 (SSID='freebox_TOTO' freq=2437 MHz) NetworkManager[1347]: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state: scanning - associating kernel: wlan0: direct probe to 00:11:22:33:44:55 (try 1) kernel: wlan0: direct probe to 00:11:22:33:44:55 (try 2) kernel: wlan0: direct probe to 00:11:22:33:44:55 (try 3) kernel: wlan0: direct probe to 00:11:22:33:44:55 timed out wpa_supplicant[1368]: Authentication with 00:11:22:33:44:55 timed out. NetworkManager[1347]: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state: associating - disconnected NetworkManager[1347]: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state: disconnected - scanning wpa_supplicant[1368]: Trying to associate with 00:11:22:33:44:55 (SSID='freebox_TOTO' freq=2437 MHz) NetworkManager[1347]: info (wlan0): supplicant connection state: scanning - associating kernel: wlan0: direct probe to 00:11:22:33:44:55 (try 1) kernel: wlan0: direct probe to 00:11:22:33:44:55 (try 2) kernel: wlan0: direct probe to 00:11:22:33:44:55 (try 3) kernel: wlan0: direct probe to 00:11:22:33:44:55 timed out J'ai essayé avec un 2.6.34 recompiler à la main et avec une image Debian linux-image-2.6.35, j'ai supprimé les règles de filtrage (Netfilter), toujours le même timeout... Sur le PC Debian, avec Network-Manager je peux me connecter au réseau Ethernet, j'ai aussi essayé une clé 3G avec succès. La Freebox fonctionne car je peux me connecter en Wifi avec un EeePC qui utilise aussi une Debian avec LXDE et Network-Manager. Là je suis à court d'idée, quelqu'un a une piste ? D'où peut venir ce foutu timeout ? Merci. -- == | FRÉDÉRIC MASSOT | | http://www.juliana-multimedia.com | | mailto:frede...@juliana-multimedia.com | ===Debian=GNU/Linux=== -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c7080a0.4010...@juliana-multimedia.com
Re: Problème de connexion Wifi
On Sunday 22 August 2010 03:42:56 Frederic MASSOT wrote: Salut, Salut Moi, j' utilise wicd; mais sorti des guerres de chapelles, j' ai eu le même problème il y a 2 semaines. Un changement de carte wifi a resolu le problème. Thierry -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008220414.55814.tchate...@free.fr
Re: Timers en Linux
El Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:36:45 +0200, Altair Linux escribió: Entonces es posible que lo que estoy buscando sea algun LiveCD o algo por el estilo especializado en analisis detallado de hardware. De todas formas esto creo que es interesante en lineas generales, porque cuando alguien intenta tener soporte para algo y no sabe que activar en el kernel, si hay distribuciones que hacen este tipo de cosas puede que den una idea exacta de que activar. Por los foros y listas comentan que efectivamente se nota cierta mejoría cuando se activan esas opciones en equipos de escritorio. Un caso sonado fue el de PulseAudio (al menos en openSUSE), que me parece que daba problemas cuando se utilizaba un timer bajo (el predeterminado creo que está establecido a 100/250Hz). Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.21.09.53...@gmail.com
Re: VPN
El día 19 de agosto de 2010 17:23, Carlos Valderrama cva...@perucam.com escribió: Buenas tardes de casualidad tendrán algúna info para levantar una VPN en Lenny PtP (2 Servidores Lenny cada uno en un local diferente) Hola. Openvpn me parece la opcion mas recomendable para loq ue necesitas. Tambien puedes montarlo facilmente con pptp, pero no te la recomiendo (en google encontraras ampliamente documentado que no es recomendable ese tipo de VPN). Saludos. «Existen dos cosas infinitas: el universo y la estupidez humana... y no estoy muy seguro de la primera» : Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=zf4uh4f+6shph1q5nxrkmttnlt8z7vty6v...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Pregunta en samba
El día 19 de agosto de 2010 10:54, Daniel Vidal dvi...@irvg.org escribió: Estimados amigos: Pido su ayuda en problema que me esta volviendo al borde de la locura, he revisado los manuales de samba y no he podido encontrar la opción. Tengo un server instalado con Lenny, samba, ldap, todo funciona bien; he montado otro server con samba para compartir carpetas, pero deseo que se autentique con el ldap, he configurado el samba con las opciones security = server y password server = .com ; pero solo me auntentica la primera vez, cuando deseo entrar a la carpeta compartida me pide otra vez usuario y clave y a pesar que escribo los usuarios y claves correctos no ingresan, me vuelve a salir la ventana, alguien tiene alguna sugerencia que me pueda dar luces para buscar la solución al tema. Mil gracias Daniel Holas. Ya revisaste los logs de samba? ahi casi siempre encontraras la respuesta a los problemas (digo casi porque a veces el log es un poco complejo de analizar). Lo que indicas me paso alguna vez, y era un problema de permisos. Verifica que los permisos esten correctamente asignados en el directorio que estas compartiendo. saludos «Existen dos cosas infinitas: el universo y la estupidez humana... y no estoy muy seguro de la primera» : Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikqas9apmx=wgmdorfo9sbhserhakun_dubj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: VPN
El 19 de agosto de 2010 17:23, Carlos Valderrama cva...@perucam.com escribió: Buenas tardes de casualidad tendrán algúna info para levantar una VPN en Lenny PtP (2 Servidores Lenny cada uno en un local diferente) Hola como dijeron por ahí OpenVPN (Una guia http://laurel.datsi.fi.upm.es/~rpons/openvpn_como/) es bueno para empezar, pero como los gustos son variados, existe tambien PPTP VPN (Una guia http://pigtail.net/nicholas/pptp/), este ultimo me parece como mas simple de configurar que OpenVPN. Salu2. Saludos Carlos Valderrama -- ceduard0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktiktzhupo2d8hjgosoqxkatkdr5cfkh6vq...@mail.gmail.com
Gnu/Kfreebsd
Estimados, me he topado con la grata sorpresa de que la mini iso de debian gnu kfreebsd trae ahora un instalador aparentementemente muy sencillo y en español. Mi pregunta es la siguiente. Si lo quiero instalar en mi pc sin formatear los otros sistemas operativos ¿será igual de sencillo que hacerlo con debian gnu linux? me da la impresión de que si pero antes de meterme en el forro prefiero preguntar porque tengo un único pc para experimentar, es el mismo que usa mi esposa y no quiero que esto se convierta en causal de divorcio. Gracias.
Re: Re: Problems - AUDIO sony vaio amd64x2 ATI
Hola: Segui este doc http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Sound#InstallanupdatedAlsadriver para actualizar alsa con el driver ACL269 de mi sony VAIO.. Ahora bien... 1. el audio se escucha pero bien bajo y con ruido 2. solamente puedo escuchar algo a travez de la salida de Headphone,, 3. corri alsamixer y me di cuenta que no tengo la opcion LINEOUT =( y no puedo escuchar la musica por los parlates de la VAIO.. Segun el documento tengo que editar /etc/default/eee-acpi-scripts, pero no tengo ese archivo,, mi /etc/default/ solo tiene /etc/default/ acpid bootlogd exim4 keyboard rsyslog acpi-support cacerts hal localesaned alsa cron halt nfs-commontmpfs apmd cups hdparmportmap useradd avahi-daemon dbus ifupdown rcS bluetooth devptskdm.d/rsync NOTA: Ahora estoy con debian sid por que ni en lenny ni en squeeze encontraba solucion, al menos en sid ya tengo audio (bajo y por los audifonos pero audio :( Alguna idea de como resolver esto... gracias Saludos, On Aug 19, 2010, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:01:04 +, Alejandro Mescua H. escribió: On Aug 18, 2010, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) 4/ Elije un modelo que más se acerque la configuración de tu equipo y lo añades como opción en el siguiente archivo /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base, y buscas la línea de tu tarjeta, a la cual le añades únicamente el modelo (model=modelo), el resto de opciones las dejas como están: *** options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-dig enable=1 index=0 *** 5/ Reinicia el equipo o ejecuta alsa force-unload (como root). Puedes probar con varios modelos, para lo cual tienes que repetir los pasos anteriores. ¿Has instalado Squeeze desde cero o has actualizado desde alguna versión anterior? Si has actualizado, prueba a crear un nuevo usuario e iniciar sesión con él para ver si le funciona el touchpad y el sonido. Hola camaleon Segi la guia q mencionas, pero mayor mi sorpresa al ver esto :/# head -n 1 /proc/asound/card0/codec* Codec: Realtek ALC269 - cuando reviso /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/driver/ALSA-Configuration.txt.gz y busco el modelo, no hay informacion de ello :( (...) Prueba con la siguiente línea: options snd-hda-intel model=auto Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.19.16.27...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1029548184.436500.1282414056191.javamail.m...@webmail11
Re: Gnu/Kfreebsd
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 02:03:22PM -0400, Polo Oyarzún wrote: Estimados, me he topado con la grata sorpresa de que la mini iso de debian gnu kfreebsd trae ahora un instalador aparentementemente muy sencillo y en español. Mi pregunta es la siguiente. Si lo quiero instalar en mi pc sin formatear los otros sistemas operativos ¿será igual de sencillo que hacerlo con debian gnu linux? me da la impresión de que si pero antes de meterme en el forro prefiero preguntar porque tengo un único pc para experimentar, es el mismo que usa mi esposa y no quiero que esto se convierta en causal de divorcio. Gracias. Puedes hacer tus pruebas en una m�quina virtual, utilizando por ejemplo [Oracle]VirtualBox. -- Adri�� Garc�a-Alz�rriz adri...@gmail.com PGP Key: B83E0019 I went to a job interview the other day, the guy asked me if I had any questions , I said yes, just one, if you're in a car traveling at the speed of light and you turn your headlights on, does anything happen? He said he couldn't answer that, I told him sorry, but I couldn't work for him then. -- Steven Wright signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Gnu/Kfreebsd
El Sat, 21 Aug 2010 14:03:22 -0400 Polo Oyarzún correo...@gmail.com escribió: Estimados, me he topado con la grata sorpresa de que la mini iso de debian gnu kfreebsd trae ahora un instalador aparentementemente muy sencillo y en español. Mi pregunta es la siguiente. Si lo quiero instalar en mi pc sin formatear los otros sistemas operativos ¿será igual de sencillo que hacerlo con debian gnu linux? me da la impresión de que si pero antes de meterme en el forro prefiero preguntar porque tengo un único pc para experimentar, es el mismo que usa mi esposa y no quiero que esto se convierta en causal de divorcio. Si tienes espacio sin particionar en el disco, o un disco para instalar, el instalador es muy parecido al de Debian de otras arquitecturas, y no creo que tengas problemas. Si no lo tienes, o lo haces, o empiezas probar máquinas virtuales (kvm por ejemplo). Saludos --- Angel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100821221206.62b39...@x32
Re: Estruturação de rede.
Realmente não deu muito para entender como será a sua topologia e se além de prover acesso aos vizinhos você vai querer oferecer outros serviços (LAMP, Cache, ???) se sua intenção é aprender a usar esses serviços ai acho até válido, porque cuidar da sua rede acredito que o seu greatek deve da conta do recado. Em 17 de agosto de 2010 01:47, Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) f...@funlabs.org escreveu: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 15-08-2010 11:15, Marcos Antonio Rufino do Egito wrote: Desculpem se talvez minha duvida não seja pertinente a esta lista. Não parece ser uma dúvida específica de Debian, e em caso de dúvida, não custa marcar como OT. :-) Seguinte, atualmente tenho em minha casa um lik adsl que estou dividindo alguns vizinho (o ajuda a pagar conta hehe), ai aproveitei para aprender também visto que tenho um rede, nada melhor para usar esta para fins também de estudo. Se fosse você, eu verificaria o seu contrato de serviço, muitos deles proíbem o compartilhamento de ADSL residencial entre residências. [... vamos fingir que eu entendi a sua topologia de rede ...] Bom que puder opnar com criticas surgetões, esperiencias ... Agradeço. Sugiro *fortemente* que você estude um pouco mais sobre redes. Você não precisa de uma máscara 255.0.0.0 e não faz sentido fazer as divisões que você quer. Configurações de rede atendem um propósito, não as fazemos porque elas são bonitas ou fofinhas, fazemos porque elas precisam funcionar bem pra serem rápidas ou pra serem seguras ou pra serem dinâmicas (ou pra serem vários desses ao mesmo tempo). Em geral, você teria interesse em separar a rede pública, da rede da sua casa, da rede compartilhada com o vizinho. Três redes diferentes, você pode usar 3 placas de rede se quiser, ou dependendo dos equipamento que possua pode usar VLANs pra fazer isso. A partir daí, a configuração de rede é só o primeiro passo para fazer a segmentação e o isolamento que você deseja. Você vai precisar determinar quais são os serviços que sua rede fornecerá e quem pode acessá-los, a partir daí se preocupar em fazer as configurações necessárias para alcançar o plano. Abraço, - -- Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) Debian. Freedom to code. Code to freedom! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkxqFEUACgkQCjAO0JDlykblcgCfY1Febv//YQT6GioVu7oqjMgE sFsAnRjpRAlAnNh5n3HL/LCHVpnTmRNl =MTOR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c6a1446.4090...@funlabs.org -- Fagner Patrício João Pessoa - PB Brasil
Re: Instalar o Debian de um pendriver
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:44 AM, Sheldon Led Martins e Silva sheldonled.ms@ gmail.com wrote: Bom dia a todos, Eu tenho um netbook acer aspire 1410 e instalei o debian nele com sucesso. Já falo que nenhum desses programas de fazer imagem em pendrive funcionou comigo no debian. Veja como eu fiz para instalar o Debian no meu netbook acessando este link: http://tribodoci.net/artigos/debian-netbook/ Hey, no meu blog www.joeliasjunior.blogspot.com eu também coloquei uma dica de como fazer um pendrive bootável. Eu já a usei e funcionou bem comigo. O artigo é do ano passado mas o atualizei esses dias. Acredito que esta maneira é bem genérica e serve para qualquer modelo. Espero ter ajudado! Em 13 de agosto de 2010 18:25, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu: baixa o programa UnetBootin, algo assim, com ele você rapidamente cria um pendrive bootavel, e la é so voce escolher a imagem iso e apontar para o pendrive, mas antes tem que escolher que sistema voce ira usar no pen drive. 2010/8/13 Adriano Rafael Gomes adrian...@gmail.com Em Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:36:27 -0300 Diác. Moretti m...@mitranh.org.br escreveu: Estou querendo colocar o Debian GNU/Linux no meu NetBook HP Gostaria de saber a onde obtenho dica de como fazer isto já que não tenho unidade de CD, me falaram que posso fazer pelo pendriver. Alguém pode me dar um dica? Veja: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apas02.html.pt_BR#howto-getting-images-usb http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.pt_BR Fiz isso no meu Acer Aspire One: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAcerOne#PreparingtheUSBflashdrive -- Sheldon Led http://tribodoci.net http://twitter.com/sheldonled -- Joelias Júnior Desenvolvedor Web Bacharelando em Informática (IFG) www.joeliasjunior.rg3.net
AIGLX
Olá lista Quando eu digito o comando: # cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i driver no terminal (como root) aparece a seguinte resposta: X.Org Video Driver: 2.0 X.Org XInput driver : 2.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//intel_drv.so Module class: X.Org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.0 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.0 (II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810, ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 2.0 (II) [drm] loaded kernel module for i915 driver. (II) intel(0): [drm] framebuffer mapped by ddx driver (II) EXA(0): Driver registered support for the following operations: (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x23 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x24 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x25 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x26 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x27 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x28 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x29 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2a (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2b (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2c (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2d (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2e (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x2f (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x30 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x31 (WW) AIGLX: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x32 Module class: X.Org XInput Driver ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 2.0 (II) Synaptics touchpad driver version 0.14.6 (1406) Alguem sabe o que significa isso? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/437243.5510...@web113612.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Re: How does Squeeze initialize PS1 ?
Hi Paul! Paul E Condon wrote: I'm debugging some bash scripts and reading the scripts that come as part of Squeeze installation. I find several places where there are statements the set a value from variable PS1, BUT all of them seem to be in scripts that only get executed if PS1 is already non-empty. i.e. they are after a statement [ -z $PS1 ] return which, I think, executes return if PS1 is empty. Correct. The -z is true if $PS1 is zero length. The shell is setting PS1 already if the shell is interactive. Therefore a quick check of PS1 is one way to decide if the shell thinks it is interactive or not. The shell has a non-trivial algorithm to determine whether to be interactive or not. Really determining whether it actually *is* interactive or not is rather hard. But if the shell thinks it is interactive then PS1 is set. That works in a well behaved environment. But it is possible to fool it if a user has manually set and exported PS1. But that isn't a well behaved environment and the solution is to correct that situation. Another technique that I also commonly see is to look at the shell's flags and look for the presence of the -i option. This is easily done with a case statement. This is harder to fool than the PS1 method above. case $- in *i*) return ;; esac There isn't really one canonical correct answer to the question of how to tell if a shell is interactive or not. But one of those two methods are most common since they are completely internal to the shell and therefore fast and efficient operations. [Note that the ksh book listed yet another method that uses $ENV and array processing to effect the same goals but within the ksh environment.] A related question: The comment just before the above line of code is: # If not running interactively, don't do anything The goal here is that scripts should not be affected by the contents of a user's ~/.bashrc file. If a script were to source that environment script then the aliases, functions, and other settings there would bring havoc upon the operation of the script. Therefore if a script is sourcing that file try to detect it and stop it as soon as possible. Also, depending upon several factors, the ~/.bashrc is sourced on a remote shell running under ssh. Meaning that if you put a function or LANG setting, or PATH setting above that line then it will be in effect when running a remote shell with ssh. (Or rsh in the old days.) I set LANG above that line so that I automatically get LANG set when running commands by ssh. For me, the implication of this comment is that a non-empty PS1 IS the defining characteristic of 'running interactively', but I would have thought 'interactive' should be characterized by having a tty attached to sysin and sysout for communication to a 'user'. Not really. Using PS1 is just one of the quick and dirty tests that tends to do the right thing most of the time. But I think looking at the shell's flags in $- is more technically correct because it is harder to fool. I can imagine that a non-empty PS1 is used as an indicator, in which case whatever code that actually sets up the tty also sets PS1 to some minimal non-empty value like a single space or a dot, but is this actually the way it works, and where is it? The shell itself sets PS1. Different shells set different default values. The Bourne shell set '$ ' and csh set '% ' for example. But in most cases people override the default with their own personal preference. Where can I read about these issues? Well... The information is scattered about in a number of places. The man pages contain most of it. The bash man page says: An interactive shell is one started without non-option arguments and without the -c option whose standard input and error are both connected to terminals (as determined by isatty(3)), or one started with the -i option. PS1 is set and $- includes i if bash is interactive, allowing a shell script or a startup file to test this state. PS1The value of this parameter is expanded (see PROMPTING below) and used as the primary prompt string. The default value is ‘‘\s-\v\$ ’’. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
autotools troubles on Squeeze
Hello List, my box is a daily updated Squeeze box: today I get trouble with autotools: I suspect that the issues come from autoconf which was upgraded recently from 2.65-4 to 2.67-2 . As I cannot really identify the misbehaviour, I would like to downgrad to autoconf 2.65-4 : where can we get the autoconf 2.65-4 Debian source packages ? Thanks in advance, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c6f95d5.4060...@rezozer.net
Re: From console to GUI
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Jangita jang...@jangita.com wrote: Hello Good people, snip Questions are (without starting a which is the best war...) 1. For GUI: I've chosen GNome, any reason why I should choose otherwise? If you want a gtk+ based DE, try xfce, I find KDE a bit flashy for my tastes, but ymmv and gnome comes with to much stuff I dont need ;) 2. Email: I've seen evolution, but I'm leaning towards thunderbird... good or bad choice? any other email clients I should consider? I have just been setting up a desktop based mail client to move away from gmails webbased one, I tried thunderbird 3.1 (from experimental) and I found it, very slow, and a bit bloated (a bit like firefox is at times) it took about 2 days to finish downloading headers via IMAP and kept crashing while it was doing it - 1682 MB inbox with about 85k messages), It also had some annoying bits and bobs like not being able to set/unset threaded view globally, having todo it per folder wasnt to much fun! I just installed clawmail, and so far it seems to have all the (useful) features of thunderbird but at the same time is considerably faster! (of cause syncing my whole mailbox isnt fast, but it isnt crashing and its already a good chunk into it) 3. Programming: For my programming I've seen eclipse to be the best, I could practically code everything in evolution using the plugins, one problem though - do I get a WYSIWYG plugin/editor for my HTML pages (might be for the eclipse mailing list but just wnat to see what guys use here) 4. Delphi - FPC 5. Any ideas of a GUI mysql client for windows? 6. I forgot to mention my chat applications (skype, msn, yahoo, google talk) - any recommended clients that support features in the original versions? (I've only found skype) Pidgen supports just about anything, If you need webcams in msn, amsn will cover you there, and google talk just put out a client for linux with webcam support there! [1] 7. Office Suite - I'll go for openoffice (any better alternatives?) Open Office seems to be the best 8. Any alternative for adobe fireworks? and i'll have a teeny weeeny partition like 10% of my hdd for playing my windows games and cases where there is just no unix alternative (Orbiter!!) wine and playonlinux make it quite easy to run lots of stuff nowadays, but you will still find a large(ish) fps drop in lots of cases, and some fidderling, ymmv in a lot of cases. Thanks! Looking forward for the big format. -- Jangita +256 76 91 8383 Hope it helps, Regards, Angus. [1] http://www.google.com/talk/index.html - Voice and video plugin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktin_57rnnv04xqx7moq0bota9n-alua4rld6-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: From console to GUI
Dne, 21. 08. 2010 01:07:50 je Andreas Rönnquist napisal(a): On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:40:32 +0200 Jangita jang...@jangita.com wrote: Hello Good people, Questions are (without starting a which is the best war...) 2. Email: I've seen evolution, but I'm leaning towards thunderbird... good or bad choice? any other email clients I should consider? You should take a look at Sylpheed too. http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/ best regards -- Andreas Rönnquist gus...@gusnan.se -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100821010750.acc10b1f.gus...@gusnan.se You might also consider Balsa. It supports the maildir format which, while a bit slower, is somewhat more robust than mbox. -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1282383579.2109...@compax
Re: autotools troubles on Squeeze
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:01:09 +0800, Jerome BENOIT wrote: my box is a daily updated Squeeze box: today I get trouble with autotools: I suspect that the issues come from autoconf which was upgraded recently from 2.65-4 to 2.67-2 . As I cannot really identify the misbehaviour, I would like to downgrad to autoconf 2.65-4 : where can we get the autoconf 2.65-4 Debian source packages ? From the snapshot pool? http://snapshot.debian.org/package/autoconf/ Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.21.10.45...@gmail.com
Re: autotools troubles on Squeeze
Thanks for the link: meanwhile I have begun to track the bug. I will give me some time to fix the bug before to downgrade autoconf. Jerome On 21/08/10 18:45, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:01:09 +0800, Jerome BENOIT wrote: my box is a daily updated Squeeze box: today I get trouble with autotools: I suspect that the issues come from autoconf which was upgraded recently from 2.65-4 to 2.67-2 . As I cannot really identify the misbehaviour, I would like to downgrad to autoconf 2.65-4 : where can we get the autoconf 2.65-4 Debian source packages ? From the snapshot pool? http://snapshot.debian.org/package/autoconf/ Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c6fb216.40...@rezozer.net
Re: konqueror media protocol not supported
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:37:16 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Using Squeeze, konqueror Version 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5). If I do konqueror - F9 - click on storage media link in the left tab, an error pops up saying protocol not supported media Anyone know how to fix that? I fairly doubt the media protocol (or any new replacement) has been completely removed from KDE4. There has to be a way to access media devices from Konqueror or Dolphin, or using auto-mounter plasmoid/widget. Have you tried by a direct browsing to the /media folder? Also, check with a new created user, login in a KDE session and see if that works. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.21.11.06...@gmail.com
Re: From console to GUI
Dne, 20. 08. 2010 16:01:31 je Camaleón napisal(a): I now use GNOME. I used KDE 3.x branch which I liked *a lot*, but switched to GNOME as soon as KDE4 entered into scene. +1 -- Regards, Klistvud Certifiable Loonix User #481801 http://bufferoverflow.tiddlyspot.com Please reply to the list, not to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1282390625.1970...@compax
Re: autotools troubles on Squeeze
Hello List, it appeared that the line AX_CFLAGS_GCC_OPTION(-std=c99) in my configure.ac files now confuses autoconf. More precisely, the equal `=` causes the confusion. Any idea how to to fix it ? Thanks in advance, Jerome On 21/08/10 19:01, Jerome BENOIT wrote: Thanks for the link: meanwhile I have begun to track the bug. I will give me some time to fix the bug before to downgrade autoconf. Jerome On 21/08/10 18:45, Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 17:01:09 +0800, Jerome BENOIT wrote: my box is a daily updated Squeeze box: today I get trouble with autotools: I suspect that the issues come from autoconf which was upgraded recently from 2.65-4 to 2.67-2 . As I cannot really identify the misbehaviour, I would like to downgrad to autoconf 2.65-4 : where can we get the autoconf 2.65-4 Debian source packages ? From the snapshot pool? http://snapshot.debian.org/package/autoconf/ Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c6fbb9a.4020...@rezozer.net
mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
Hi there, I am trying to mount an IDE disk from an old (broken) machine. I am using a USB adaptor. After attaching the IDE disk to the USB adaptor, I cannot do anything with the disk. dmesg reveal: [13927.196346] usb-storage: device scan complete [13927.503084] scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access ST320413 A PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 [13927.504751] sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 [13927.505864] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 39102336 512-byte logical blocks: (20.0 GB/18.6 GiB) [13927.506727] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off [13927.506734] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 27 00 00 00 [13927.506739] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [13927.508348] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [13927.508355] sdb: sdb1 sdb5 sdb6 sdb7 [13927.549046] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [13927.549050] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk [13930.050201] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Unhandled sense code [13930.050209] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE [13930.050218] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Hardware Error [current] [13930.050227] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Timeout on logical unit [13930.050237] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 01 87 68 00 00 01 00 [13930.050256] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 400800 [13930.050267] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 100200 When trying to mount, I get: $ sudo mount -t auto /dev/sdb7 /tmp/test mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member' But it looks like I do have a LVM2 filesystem on this disk: $ sudo pvs PV VG Fmt Attr PSize PFree /dev/sda2 dhcp-67-183 lvm2 a- 148.81G0 /dev/sdb7 Debian lvm2 a-17.89G0 Same issue with : $ sudo lvdisplay /dev/sdb7 Volume group sdb7 not found Any suggestion greatly appreciated ! Thanks, -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimjikbiujx+x9jaa2krh2-dqtfqwog0kzkgz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member'
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Mathieu Malaterre mathieu.malate...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I am trying to mount an IDE disk from an old (broken) machine. I am using a USB adaptor. After attaching the IDE disk to the USB adaptor, I cannot do anything with the disk. dmesg reveal: [13927.196346] usb-storage: device scan complete [13927.503084] scsi 4:0:0:0: Direct-Access ST320413 A PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 [13927.504751] sd 4:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg2 type 0 [13927.505864] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] 39102336 512-byte logical blocks: (20.0 GB/18.6 GiB) [13927.506727] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off [13927.506734] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 27 00 00 00 [13927.506739] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [13927.508348] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [13927.508355] sdb: sdb1 sdb5 sdb6 sdb7 [13927.549046] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [13927.549050] sd 4:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI disk [13930.050201] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Unhandled sense code [13930.050209] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Result: hostbyte=DID_OK driverbyte=DRIVER_SENSE [13930.050218] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Sense Key : Hardware Error [current] [13930.050227] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Timeout on logical unit [13930.050237] sr 0:0:0:0: [sr0] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 01 87 68 00 00 01 00 [13930.050256] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 400800 [13930.050267] Buffer I/O error on device sr0, logical block 100200 When trying to mount, I get: $ sudo mount -t auto /dev/sdb7 /tmp/test mount: unknown filesystem type 'LVM2_member' But it looks like I do have a LVM2 filesystem on this disk: $ sudo pvs PV VG Fmt Attr PSize PFree /dev/sda2 dhcp-67-183 lvm2 a- 148.81G 0 /dev/sdb7 Debian lvm2 a- 17.89G 0 Same issue with : $ sudo lvdisplay /dev/sdb7 Volume group sdb7 not found Answering myself, one need to use the name in the VG column (not the /dev id): sudo lvdisplay Debian sudo vgchange -ay /dev/Debian sudo mount /dev/Debian/home /tmp/test Cheers -- Mathieu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikjvrnrihgsqmfoi1guuedf7bcal9rd1dwxk...@mail.gmail.com
Re: From console to GUI
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:06:18PM -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/20/2010 12:03 PM, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:08:31 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: Luckily Evolution has nothing to do with Mono. Actually, I don't know of any email client written in C#. No? :-? Then I confused Evo with another developments using Mono. I always thought that installing Evolution will pull Mono libraries (required for plugins and connectors), but I maybe wrong. IIRC when the big issue came up of some distros (suse and ubuntu maybe?), shipping mono with default gnome, was because of tomboy-notes. Debian also. Or rather, it originally didn't. Because mono violated one of Debian's most valued values. (It does not run on many platforms, due to being based on Mono[1]). Then one anti-mono zealot went ahead and provided a nice clone for it in C++, called gnote. It's functional indeed, but not as much as tomboy. The result is that now the Debian GNOME maintainers can safely add 'tomboy | gnote' as a dependency of the gnome meta package. Moral of the story: if you really think mono is evil, go and make gnote better than tomboy. [1] See http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/mono-runtime. Note the list of platforms. Compare to e.g. http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libgtk2.0-0 . -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best tzaf...@debian.org|| friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100821120237.gn17...@pear.tzafrir.org.il
Re: understanding kernel panic message
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 17:36:03 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: So what does it actually mean when I get the message kernel panic: not syncing? I can't seem to find a reference, in any of the obvious places, as to what the various kernel-generated oops and panic messages actually mean - can someone point me at one? Better if you upload to some place the full error log or a snapshot if the panic comes at installation time. When does the error occur? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.21.12.09...@gmail.com
Re: understanding kernel panic message
Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 17:36:03 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: So what does it actually mean when I get the message kernel panic: not syncing? I can't seem to find a reference, in any of the obvious places, as to what the various kernel-generated oops and panic messages actually mean - can someone point me at one? Better if you upload to some place the full error log or a snapshot if the panic comes at installation time. When does the error occur? The Lenny version of the Xen Hypervisor has a known bug that causes infrequent crash/reboot events. It's the final console message before the hypervisor reboots. It's been fixed in later versions. But having encountered it more than a few times now, I've become curious about what's going on. Which leads me to wonder if there's a guide somewhere to kernel panic messages. I can't seem to find a cross reference to kernel panic messages - but there must be one somewhere. Miles -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. Infnord practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c6fc573.6070...@meetinghouse.net
Re: 2.34 Kernel Won't Boot
Am 20.08.2010 09:30, schrieb David Baron: I built this kernel for first time with new PATA rather than the old deprecated drivers. These are compiled-in, no initrd. Get cannot find block error, [2,22] or something like that. Possibilities: 1. Need to compile in VIA's driver as well. Not doing this prevented DMA access using deprecated drivers a while back. I am doing this kernel for a new MB, not VIA chipset. Module is built. 2. New drivers assign different dev names. Need to change to newer name scheme in lilo.conf. If so, this will wait for new machine since this will render older kernel builds unusable. Current MB is an older IDE-based machine. The new MB will be SATA but has an IDE as well (and there are those adapters that plug in to the old disks to make them work like SATA). 3. Do not use 2.6.34. Has apparently been abandoned? Can anyone tell me what to do? (I hope the older kernels will boot on the new MB.) Thanks in advance. The above mentioned problems (mixing IDE/SATA optical drives) made me try 2.6.34 , too. There is a prebuilt kernel and even a linux-kbuild of 2.6.34 experimental in the repositories, which works for me with no problems. See ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-kbuild-2.6/ The new 2.6.35 kernel still has some startup issue for me . Maybe that helps? Ingo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c6fcc8f$0$6777$9b4e6...@newsspool3.arcor-online.net
Re: googleearth 5.2
Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Friday 20 August 2010 16:48:58 hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Thierry Chatelet wrote: On Friday 20 August 2010 16:14:58 hugo vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I can't get it to work on Lenny and i386, what distribution do you run? Hugo Squeeze. Did you install using googleearth-package or the bin from google? Also try starting it from a console to get,maybe, some error messages. I tried both googleearth-package and the bin from Google and they both crash on takeoff. that is with 5.2 and Lenny. 5.1 works ok. The error appears in ~/.googleearth/crashlogs and is similar to the ones mentioned in the forum. When I have Sid up and running again, I'll try that. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i4ojqj$gf...@dough.gmane.org
Re: understanding kernel panic message
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 08:24:19 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Camaleón wrote: Better if you upload to some place the full error log or a snapshot if the panic comes at installation time. When does the error occur? The Lenny version of the Xen Hypervisor has a known bug that causes infrequent crash/reboot events. It's the final console message before the hypervisor reboots. It's been fixed in later versions. But having encountered it more than a few times now, I've become curious about what's going on. Which leads me to wonder if there's a guide somewhere to kernel panic messages. I can't seem to find a cross reference to kernel panic messages - but there must be one somewhere. Kernel panics can come from different sources. Logs will tell you where to start... anyway, you can always start from here: http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en#hl=enq=debugging+linux+kernel+panicsfp=7bb5c562e6b4c787 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.21.13.48...@gmail.com
Re: Send an email on . . .
On 08/19/2010 02:06 PM, Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 19/08/10 vr said: I've read about swatch and logwatch so far but the documentation I've found is older. Are these the current best tools? Or can someone point me at something that worked better than them that was not a full blown commercial IDS? Personally I'd be tempted to do a little perl or python scripting. Mike apt-cache show fail2ban Just a thought... you may find it useful. Ralph -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c6fe875.4070...@rcn.com
contents of a CD (lenny) and what packages are needed for the basic (minimal) set OS
contents of a CD (lenny) and what packages are needed for the basic (minimal) set OS contents of each directory of the distribution and location of packages for a minimal installation (on CD) содержание КД (lenny) и какие пакеты нужны для базовой (минимальной ) установки содержание каждого каталога дистрибутива и где находятся пакеты для минимальной установки (на CD) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e1ompgx-00088r-00.boban_r-mail...@f82.mail.ru
Sqeeze install: partition table not written
I'm restarting a query regarding a grub2 error 15 when trying to do a a boot after a netboot install of Debian squeeze from a USB-key and a boot hang when I do a netinst install from the USB-key. Thinking I needed to fix GRUB2, I booted debianLive from a usb-key, and found that I only have one partition on my HD: /dev/sda1, which is mounted on /boot and is marked bootable. Its content is 628 Mb and has the expected files in it, which suggests that the content for this partion was properly installed. However, # fdisk -l says this is the only partition, althought during installation I had created 14. # ls /dev | grep sda* returns only sda and sda1. The partitioning during installation seemed to go smoothly, as did the installation of files to those partitions. When I do # mount, I find that /dev/sda1 is mounted in /fll/sda1, aufs is mounted on /fll/aufs, and aufs is mounted on the various mount points I had created. # ls reports all these mount points (/boot, /root, /home, etc). When I do # df, I see aufs entries are mounted on the various mount points created during partitioning. No idea what this means. It seems all my partitions were merged during installation and not unmerged from the aufs. What would be a fix? Haines Brown -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/877hjk3rwq@teufel.historicalmaterialism.info
Re: contents of a CD (lenny) and what packages are needed for the basic (minimal) set OS
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 07:08:41PM +0400, Vladimir wrote: contents of a CD (lenny) and what packages are needed for the basic (minimal) set OS You only need CD1 for a basic system. http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100821162633.ga23...@shellium.org
Re: gdm crashes unexpectedly every now and then
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:22:01 -0700, Peter Tenenbaum wrote: I've had 2 instances recently in which gdm unexpectedly crashed and restarted. This morning, the log reported the following: (...) Aug 20 06:33:21 tibouchina kernel: [481166.096053] [drm:i915_gem_do_execbuffer] *ERROR* 2020 objects [40 pinned], 399417344 Seems like X server is crashing (intel driver using KMS). object bytes [133828608 pinned], 133828608/234881024 gtt bytes Aug 20 06:33:22 tibouchina gdm[1994]: WARNING: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 Can anyone give me guidance about what the problem is and/or how to resolve it? What does xorg log say? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.21.16.37...@gmail.com
Re: gdm crashes unexpectedly every now and then
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 16:37:23 +, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:22:01 -0700, Peter Tenenbaum wrote: I've had 2 instances recently in which gdm unexpectedly crashed and restarted. This morning, the log reported the following: (...) Aug 20 06:33:21 tibouchina kernel: [481166.096053] [drm:i915_gem_do_execbuffer] *ERROR* 2020 objects [40 pinned], 399417344 Seems like X server is crashing (intel driver using KMS). Mmmm, this may also help: gdm_slave_xioerror_handler: Fatal X error - Restarting :0 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=583498 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.21.16.43...@gmail.com
Re: gdm crashes unexpectedly every now and then
Camaleon -- That certainly looks like my problem! Now for my next ignorant question: where do I go to find the kernel command line, so I can see whether it includes a vga= clause? I am using squeeze with all normal default options, if that helps any. -PT
Cups+gutenprint color balance shot.
Hi; I have been doing all of my color printing on my Win2K system directly attached to an Epson stylus photo RX680 printer. All is well. I just installed a new computer on my office network that runs on linux. I am using Samba and Cups+gutenprint v5.2.5 with the Win2K/Epson printer as my network printer. For text printing everything works fine. I decided to shift my color work to the new computer (at least 10x faster than any other computer on the net) and was shocked when I printed a NFTA label (those diamond shaped labels you see on hazardous material containers) when the red came out peach and the blue came out purple. The same file printed on the Win2K system is fine. All linux systems are running the latest Squeeze software and kernel 2.6.32-trunk-686 #1 SMP Sun Jan 10 06:32:16 UTC 2010. Testing shows that switching between CYMK and RGB makes no difference. Pure magenta, yellow and cyan print correctly. The ligh colors red, yellow and blue print correctly but none of the other colors on the color selector are correct. I don't think tweeking color balance is going to help this problem. There is too great an error. Thanks for any help you may offer. Gary R -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c7008fe.6060...@verizon.net
Re: gdm crashes unexpectedly every now and then
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:04:32 -0700, Peter Tenenbaum wrote: Camaleon -- That certainly looks like my problem! Not that fast :-) I would look first at your xorg log, the cause of your X crash can be totally unrelated to the bug's one. Now for my next ignorant question: where do I go to find the kernel command line, so I can see whether it includes a vga= clause? I am using squeeze with all normal default options, if that helps any. It is located in GRUB's menu file (in GRUB legacy that is /boot/grub/ menu.lst, dunno for GRUB2.. maybe /etc/defualt/grub? :-?). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.21.18.37...@gmail.com
Re: gdm crashes unexpectedly every now and then
Camaleón wrote: Peter Tenenbaum wrote: Now for my next ignorant question: where do I go to find the kernel command line, so I can see whether it includes a vga= clause? I am using squeeze with all normal default options, if that helps any. It is located in GRUB's menu file (in GRUB legacy that is /boot/grub/ menu.lst, dunno for GRUB2.. maybe /etc/defualt/grub? :-?). You can also see the command line that the currently running kernel was invoked with by looking at /proc/cmdline. $ cat /proc/cmdline root=/dev/mapper/vg1-root ro $ cat /proc/cmdline BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/v1-root ro quiet Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: konqueror media protocol not supported
In pan.2010.08.21.11.06...@gmail.com, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 21:37:16 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: Using Squeeze, konqueror Version 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5). If I do konqueror - F9 - click on storage media link in the left tab, an error pops up saying protocol not supported media In my konqueror [Version 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5)], there is no storage media in the left tab, after I hit F9. Anyone know how to fix that? I fairly doubt the media protocol (or any new replacement) has been completely removed from KDE4. There has to be a way to access media devices from Konqueror or Dolphin, or using auto-mounter plasmoid/widget. Well, the Protocol not supported: media error specifically comes from the lack of a handler for URLs that start with media:. KDE 3 had one installed by default. KDE SC 4 does not. You can compare behaviors directly by putting the URL media:// into the location bar for both KDE 3 and KDE SC 4. I think it is mostly replaced by the device notifier, but there are definitely things in the old media: protocol handler did that the device notifier does do (by default). -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: 2.34 Kernel Won't Boot
On Friday 20 August 2010 12:18:11 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote: I built this kernel for first time with new PATA rather than the old deprecated drivers. These are compiled-in, no initrd. Get cannot find block error, [2,22] or something like that. Possibilities: 1. Need to compile in VIA's driver as well. Not doing this prevented DMA access using deprecated drivers a while back. I am doing this kernel for a new MB, not VIA chipset. Module is built. 2. New drivers assign different dev names. Need to change to newer name scheme in lilo.conf. If so, this will wait for new machine since this will render older kernel builds unusable. Current MB is an older IDE-based machine. The new MB will be SATA but has an IDE as well (and there are those adapters that plug in to the old disks to make them work like SATA). 3. Do not use 2.6.34. Has apparently been abandoned? Can anyone tell me what to do? (I hope the older kernels will boot on the new MB.) Thanks in advance. It would help tremendously if you told us exactly which IDE chip(s) you have, or your exact motherboard make/model#. The MB of the current machine is an older AOpen with a VIA chipset. The new one will be a Winsonic with Intel chipset. That has both SATA and IDE and my current disks will be placed on the IDE as now. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201008212202.28664.d_ba...@012.net.il
Re: autotools troubles on Squeeze
Jerome BENOIT writes: Hello List, it appeared that the line AX_CFLAGS_GCC_OPTION(-std=c99) in my configure.ac files now confuses autoconf. More precisely, the equal `=` causes the confusion. Any idea how to to fix it ? Try quoting it: AX_CFLAGS_GCC_OPTION([-std=c99]) -- Alberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87tymnsrlj@eps142.cdf.udc.es
Re: Cups+gutenprint color balance shot.
In 4c7008fe.6060...@verizon.net, Gary Roach wrote: Testing shows that switching between CYMK and RGB makes no difference. Pure magenta, yellow and cyan print correctly. The ligh colors red, yellow and blue print correctly but none of the other colors on the color selector are correct. I don't think tweeking color balance is going to help this problem. There is too great an error. Thanks for any help you may offer. Yeah I'm pretty sure you need to mess around with color balance and color profiles on your OS(es), monitor, and printer. If your pure colors are coming out correctly but your blends are not, it almost certainly means that the color curve being used by your printer is not the same as the one being used by your computer. I'm not sure about color balance, but I do know Gamma values, which may matter, differ from WinXP to X11. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Cups+gutenprint color balance shot.
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:12:30AM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: I have been doing all of my color printing on my Win2K system directly attached to an Epson stylus photo RX680 printer. All is well. I just installed a new computer on my office network that runs on linux. I am using Samba and Cups+gutenprint v5.2.5 with the Win2K/Epson printer as my network printer. For text printing everything works fine. I decided to shift my color work to the new computer (at least 10x faster than any other computer on the net) and was shocked when I printed a NFTA label (those diamond shaped labels you see on hazardous material containers) when the red came out peach and the blue came out purple. The same file printed on the Win2K system is fine. All linux systems are running the latest Squeeze software and kernel 2.6.32-trunk-686 #1 SMP Sun Jan 10 06:32:16 UTC 2010. Could you post the printer definition from printers.conf? If it's a networked printer, you need to make sure the remote spooler and/or printer aren't doing any further processing: you want the raw output from gutenprint sent directly to the printer. This should already be the case. The model should be supported by gutenprint: printer translate=name name=Epson Stylus Photo RX680 driver=escp2-rx680 manufacturer=Epson model=97 parameters=claria_params foomaticid=Epson-Stylus_Photo_RX680 / However, if none of the developers of gutenprint have never seen this particular model, the colour balance may never have been tuned. Or, a change in gutenprint after the model was added may have caused an unwanted regression in the colour balance for this model. Firstly, I'd suggest trying gutenprint v5.2.6 from unstable. It's possible support was improved in the new release. It was added last weekend. Make sure you upgrade cups-driver-gutenprint, libgutenprint2 and other dependent packages. If this doesn't improve things, your best bet is to subscribe to gimp-print-devel mailing list on the gutenprint project site and ask the developers. They can help you tune it and get the colour balance right. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xpdf fonts and xresources
Hi! * Andreas Goesele schrieb am Sa, 07.08.2010 um 12:51 (+0200): for me the xpdf fonts are too small. So I changed them by putting xpdf*fontList: -*-helvetica-medium-r-*-*-*-140-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1 into .Xresources But this leaves the fontsize of the textareas (Page, Search field, printing dialog) unchanged. Is there a way to change the fontsize for these areas in .Xresources? Have you already tried the editres program (package x11-utils)? Keep xpdf running and start editres. After getting the resource tree into editres you can alter nearly any resource while xpdf is running. The altered resources can be saved. Your question applies to some branch of the .xpdf.win.form.toolBar.* tree. Good luck! Mathias -- - Mathias Bauer mba...@gmx.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100821193801.ga29...@gmx.org
Re: gdm crashes unexpectedly every now and then
Camaleon -- I've looked at several of the Xorg.#.log and Xorg.#.log.old files, and no error is reported there. All that I can see, in fact, appears to be startup information, not real log information (no datestamps are present, for example). Am I looking in the wrong place? Bob -- I followed your procedure, and it indicates that there are no vga= clauses in the command line which invokes my kernel: quar...@tibouchina:~$ cat /proc/cmdline BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/tibouchina-root ro quiet -PT
Re: Cups+gutenprint color balance shot.
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 10:12:30 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: I have been doing all of my color printing on my Win2K system directly attached to an Epson stylus photo RX680 printer. All is well. I just installed a new computer on my office network that runs on linux. I am using Samba and Cups+gutenprint v5.2.5 with the Win2K/Epson printer as my network printer. For text printing everything works fine. I decided to shift my color work to the new computer (at least 10x faster than any other computer on the net) and was shocked when I printed a NFTA label (those diamond shaped labels you see on hazardous material containers) when the red came out peach and the blue came out purple. The same file printed on the Win2K system is fine. All linux systems are running the latest Squeeze software and kernel 2.6.32-trunk-686 #1 SMP Sun Jan 10 06:32:16 UTC 2010. (...) Remember that Epson printers/all-in-one devices can also use Avasys¹ drivers (and there is still one more option, Turboprint², but you need to buy a licence for it and has a reduced support for printers brand and models). Maybe Avasys drivers gives you a better print quality, but cannot confirm this point because I've never used that drivers before. ¹ http://www.avasys.jp/lx-bin2/linux_e/spc/DL1.do ² http://www.turboprint.info/ Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.21.20.11...@gmail.com
Re: gdm crashes unexpectedly every now and then
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:40:36 -0700, Peter Tenenbaum wrote: Camaleon -- I've looked at several of the Xorg.#.log and Xorg.#.log.old files, and no error is reported there. All that I can see, in fact, appears to be startup information, not real log information (no datestamps are present, for example). Am I looking in the wrong place? No, that is the right place. Please, upload the full log /var/log/Xorg.0.log to any online site such www.pastebin.com so we can take a look. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.21.20.15...@gmail.com
Re: 2.34 Kernel Won't Boot
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:02:26 -0400 (EDT), David Baron wrote: The MB of the current machine is an older AOpen with a VIA chipset. The new one will be a Winsonic with Intel chipset. That has both SATA and IDE and my current disks will be placed on the IDE as now. I don't have any first-hand knowledge of your hardware, but I see that you are using a custom-built kernel and the lilo boot loader, and you are having issues with the new libata drivers. You might want to take a look at my kernel-building web page, http://www.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/Kernel.htm It addresses all these issues at some level. Perhaps you will find something useful there. Pay particular attention to step 10, the proper application of which is *essential* for anyone using the lilo boot loader under Squeeze/Sid, whether they use stock kernels or custom kernels. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2062589153.268791.1282424524966.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Cups+gutenprint color balance shot.
Thanks for the return. The RX680 is listed as one the printers in the Cups setup program. Here is the file you requested. # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.4.4 # Written by cupsd # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE WHEN CUPSD IS RUNNING Printer epson Info Epson Stylus Photo RX680 Location Here MakeModel Epson Stylus Photo RX680 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.5 DeviceURI smb://gary:xxx...@workgroup/ctech/epson State Idle StateTime 1279057966 Type 8425500 Filter application/vnd.cups-raw 0 - Filter application/vnd.cups-raster 100 rastertogutenprint.5.2 Filter application/vnd.cups-command 33 commandtoepson Accepting Yes Shared Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer /Printer I may post this on the gimp-print-devel mailing list as Roger Leigh suggested. Gary R. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4c7043ca.6050...@verizon.net
Re: gdm crashes unexpectedly every now and then
Camaleon -- OK, I've posted a concatenation of the last 3 Xorg log files to http://pastebin.com/eXhSQyEL . I'm pretty sure that the last one of the 3 (Xorg.20.log) was the one which was in use at the time of the problem, the next-most-recent (Xorg.0.log.old) was the one which started at that time, and the most recent one (Xorg.0.log) is from a restart performed this morning. Thanks for all your help with this! -PT
Re: Cups+gutenprint color balance shot.
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 02:23:22PM -0700, Gary Roach wrote: Thanks for the return. The RX680 is listed as one the printers in the Cups setup program. Here is the file you requested. # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.4.4 # Written by cupsd # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE WHEN CUPSD IS RUNNING Printer epson Info Epson Stylus Photo RX680 Location Here MakeModel Epson Stylus Photo RX680 - CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.5 DeviceURI smb://gary:xxx...@workgroup/ctech/epson There's nothing wrong with the printers.conf definition, so it's not a CUPS configuration issue. Regards, Roger -- .''`. Roger Leigh : :' : Debian GNU/Linux http://people.debian.org/~rleigh/ `. `' Printing on GNU/Linux? http://gutenprint.sourceforge.net/ `-GPG Public Key: 0x25BFB848 Please GPG sign your mail. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: gdm crashes unexpectedly every now and then
On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 14:29:32 -0700, Peter Tenenbaum wrote: Camaleon -- OK, I've posted a concatenation of the last 3 Xorg log files to http://pastebin.com/eXhSQyEL . Thanks! :-) I'm pretty sure that the last one of the 3 (Xorg.20.log) was the one which was in use at the time of the problem, the next-most-recent (Xorg.0.log.old) was the one which started at that time, and the most recent one (Xorg.0.log) is from a restart performed this morning. O.k... I see no relevant errors in all the files (just two [WW] warnings and only one [EE] error about Logitech input device) :-( Maybe there is something at /var/log/syslog or even ~/.xsession- errors. Does the crash happen as soon as you login or randomly once you are in a session? Does it happens after any of the power saving settings come into play or after restoring from hibernation/suspend state? Do you have any of those fancy desktop effects enabled? ... I've performed other query in Google and found another similar bug (this one from Ubuntbu): [gm45] X crashes and restarts with *ERROR* Failed to pin buffer 4 of 17 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/528432 Maybe it is worth to report it in Debian BTS :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.08.21.22.21...@gmail.com
Re: From console to GUI
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 4:37 AM, Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr wrote: Dne, 20. 08. 2010 16:01:31 je Camaleón napisal(a): I now use GNOME. I used KDE 3.x branch which I liked *a lot*, but switched to GNOME as soon as KDE4 entered into scene. +1 I dropped KDE myself after 4 was foisted on us. After trying a number of DEs (including GNOME), I settled on Enlightenment, and that is now my default for all fresh installs. :) However, for my login manager, I do still use GDM, since it is so easy to set up XDMCP remote login capabilities (XDM and XDM based greeters don't seem capable of this without mucking around with various config files). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlkti=vx8tx=gfk_7lg-wbxjy0uzfctkt7dhu0gu...@mail.gmail.com
what is the difference between w95 FAT32 and w95 FAT32 (LBA)
While running cfdisk, it lists various file system types. Is there a document which explains the difference between similar file systems? In particular, if I want to have a windows XP type of filesystem, do I go with 07 HPFS/NTFS or 86 NTFS volume set or 87 NTFS volume set? Similarly, If I want to create FAT32 partition so that I can exchange files between windows and Linux, should I go with 0B W95 FAT32 or w95 FAT32 w95 FAT32 (LBA) What are the advantages in choosing one over the other? I tried to google, /usr/share/doc/util-linux etc., but could not find anything useful. thanks raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i4pupo$e8...@dough.gmane.org
kvm Vs qemu-kvm Vs qemu -enable-kvm
Hi all, I could not google out and get an effective information on what is the difference between the above. Can someone explain me please ? I am talking here about the user space application only and not the kernel module or kqemu. I can see kvm is supplied by the kvm developer site which is a modified qemu I can also see qemu-kvm which is installed in the machines by package managers I can also see qemu (the original version from qemu.org) has support for kvm using the switch -enable-kvm In all the 3 cases i can see all of them using the kvm_intel module (mine is an intel machine). So what is the difference ? Qemu (from the qemu.org by Fabrice Bellard ) also supports kvm and the kvm site gives its own kvm whcih is also modfied qemu. The qemu from the qemu.org site looks better since it has support for gigabit ethernet emulation as-well-as it can do USB 2.0 emulation which I am seeing it lacking in kvm versions (atleast untill 88) what to use ? kvm or qemu with -enable-kvm ? is there a difference between these two in the subject of performance ? Bhasker C V Registered linux user #306349 Fedora Ambassador: Bhaslinux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.1.10.1008211747010.15...@server.uk.unixindia.com
Re: kvm Vs qemu-kvm Vs qemu -enable-kvm
On 8/21/10, Bhasker C V bhas...@unixindia.com wrote: Hi all, I could not google out and get an effective information on what is the difference between the above. Can someone explain me please ? I am talking here about the user space application only and not the kernel module or kqemu. I can see kvm is supplied by the kvm developer site which is a modified qemu I can also see qemu-kvm which is installed in the machines by package managers I can also see qemu (the original version from qemu.org) has support for kvm using the switch -enable-kvm In all the 3 cases i can see all of them using the kvm_intel module (mine is an intel machine). So what is the difference ? Qemu (from the qemu.org by Fabrice Bellard ) also supports kvm and the kvm site gives its own kvm whcih is also modfied qemu. The qemu from the qemu.org site looks better since it has support for gigabit ethernet emulation as-well-as it can do USB 2.0 emulation which I am seeing it lacking in kvm versions (atleast untill 88) what to use ? kvm or qemu with -enable-kvm ? is there a difference between these two in the subject of performance ? Bhasker C V Registered linux user #306349 Fedora Ambassador: Bhaslinux On debian unstable, and I believe sqeeze, you have to install qemu-kvm, and that will not provide a qemu-kvm binary. Instead you'll have to call qemu -enable-kvm. That's the way it is on debian unstable. With the qemu-system package you won't get to enable kvm, though you can install both. If you don't mind installing both, then the meta package qemu is pretty useful so you get all user land applications to generate images and the like... Some other distros provide executable qemu-kvm, like archLinux, but if you noticed it's the same as calling qemu -enable-kvm, actually that's what they recommend in some of their forums. So it all depends on the distro and the versions, I believe... -- Javier. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim=dqc=sxaln5jslj2-jcd=1-zgmagvhqkq3...@mail.gmail.com
Re: what is the difference between w95 FAT32 and w95 FAT32 (LBA)
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi raju.mailingli...@gmail.com writes: While running cfdisk, it lists various file system types. Is there a document which explains the difference between similar file systems? [...] Similarly, If I want to create FAT32 partition so that I can exchange files between windows and Linux, should I go with 0B W95 FAT32 or w95 FAT32 w95 FAT32 (LBA) What are the advantages in choosing one over the other? I tried to google, /usr/share/doc/util-linux etc., but could not find anything useful. One of the first google hits gave me this for fat32: ,-[http://forums.techguy.org/hardware/723781-fat-32-drive-size-limitations.html] | In Linux the Fat32 has two types; Type b is for Win95 OSR2 Fat32 with a | partition up to 2047Mb and Type c is for LBA-mapped capable of 2Tb size. | | The type b is for the early Win95 system and type c is for later Win95 | and all Win98. ` Don't know how trustworthy it is, though... hth Memnon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87zkwftk2v@mean.albasani.net
Re: what is the difference between w95 FAT32 and w95 FAT32 (LBA)
Memnon Anon wrote: Kamaraju S Kusumanchi raju.mailingli...@gmail.com writes: While running cfdisk, it lists various file system types. Is there a document which explains the difference between similar file systems? [...] Similarly, If I want to create FAT32 partition so that I can exchange files between windows and Linux, should I go with 0B W95 FAT32 or w95 FAT32 w95 FAT32 (LBA) What are the advantages in choosing one over the other? I tried to google, /usr/share/doc/util-linux etc., but could not find anything useful. One of the first google hits gave me this for fat32: Interesting! I searched for difference between w95 FAT32 and w95 FAT32 (LBA) in google. All the results are pretty useless. What did you search for? ,-[http://forums.techguy.org/hardware/723781-fat-32-drive-size- limitations.html] | In Linux the Fat32 has two types; Type b is for Win95 OSR2 Fat32 with a | partition up to 2047Mb and Type c is for LBA-mapped capable of 2Tb size. | | The type b is for the early Win95 system and type c is for later Win95 | and all Win98. ` thanks. That helps. raju -- Kamaraju S Kusumanchi http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/i4q74b$u6...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Eén keyboard shortcut voor twee actie s
On 08/21/2010 09:20 AM, Dirk Schouten wrote: Geachte groep, Voor blinden en slechtzienden probeer ik in Ubuntu 10.04 een keyboard shortcut te maken via System Appearance Keyboard Shortcuts. Deze keyboard shortcut moet twee dingen doen: - Een terminal starten - In de terminal een programma uitvoeren Het is nodig om het terminal venster beschikbaar te hebben (navigatie voor slechtzienden). Het commando om de terminal te starten is 'gnome-terminal'. Het lukt mij niet om het programma (daisy-player) te starten krijgen. Daisy-player is een CLI programma. Wat niet werkt: - gnome-terminal daisy-player - gnome-terminal ; daisy-player Bij beiden start zelfs de terminal niet en krijg ik allerlei foutberichten van gnome-terminal. Ook het laten uitvoeren van een shell script waarin: #!/bin/bash /usr/bin/gnome-terminal /usr/local/bin/daisy-player Geeft ook fouten bij het starten van gnome-terminal en de rest wordt niet uitgevoerd. Al googelend vond ik niets m.b.t. 2 commando's uitvoeren vaia een keyboard shortcut. Al deze manieren starten twee aparte processen. 1 daarvan is de gnome-terminal, daarna wordt een ander proces gestart voor daise-player. Wat je zoekt is een manier om het programma als argument mee te geven aan je terminal. Nu heb ik hier geen gnome bij de hand, maar mijn manpage van xterm zegt hierover het volgende: -e program [ arguments ... ] This option specifies the program (and its command line argu‐ ments) to be run in the xterm window. It also sets the window title and icon name to be the basename of the program being executed if neither -T nor -n are given on the command line. This must be the last option on the command line. Onder xterm zou het dus werken met `xterm -e daisy-player`. Als je in de manpage van gnome-terminal zoekt naar een vergelijkbare optie is het daar vast ook wel mee te doen. Succes -- Herwin Weststrate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-dutch-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
