date:20140219

El Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:42:11 -0600, juan herrera escribió:

 Hola usuarios de Debian, me interesa saber si alguien sabe algo de como
 se desempeña esta tarjeta madre, corriendo linux o mas especificamente
 corriendo Debian Gnu/Linux?

Sobre el papel no parece una mala placa base:

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/SABERTOOTH_Z87/#specifications

Eso sí, en las placas base modernas Asus tiende a meter muchas opciones 
propietarias, las que vienen especificadas en el apartado Special 
Features (CoolQuietMegaFrostiesdeKellogsDespiertaTigre) que te 
pueden dar problemillas en Linux. No es algo que te pueda confirmar de 
primera mano porque hace años que no compro placas Asus y les he ido 
perdiendo la pista pero sí he leído quejas en otras listas de correo de 
linux sobre este asunto.

 Alguiensabe o me recomiendan otra tarjeta para correr Debian que tenga
 bastante soporte, y haga un buen match con Debian Gnu/linux?
 
 Asus Sabertooth Z87 LGA 1150 Motherboard
 
 Por favor tomar en cuenta la tarjeta debe de ser para procesador 1150
 Intel.

Yo nunca he tenido problemas serios de rendimiento con ninguna placa base 
en distribuciones Linux y he trabajado con modelos de distintos 
fabricantes (Asus, Gigabyte, MSI y Supermicro principalmente), todas 
ellas sin problemas.

Por otra parte, nunca está de más revisar los comentarios de algunas 
tiendas online (NewEgg, Amazon, etc...) sobre este modelo a ver qué se 
cuece.

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Re: USB2VGA dongle

El Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:00:36 -0600, Raúl Israel Mora Rojas escribió:

 Es la primera vez que escribo a la lista, normalmente trato de contestar
 a las dudas.

Pues ya deberías saber que el formato html en esta lista es cosa mala ;-)

 Pero ahora necesito de su ayuda.
 Tengo el adaptador siguiente:
 
 *Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0711:5100 Magic Control Technology Corp. Magic
 Control Technology Corp. (USB2VGA dongle)

(...)

 Ya valide y si esta soportado por el kernel.
 Incluso con modprobe sisusbvga  ya esta cargado el modulo:
 
 usb 1-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 6 using ehci-pci usb 1-1.1:
 New USB device found, idVendor=0711, idProduct=5100 usb 1-1.1: New USB
 device strings: Mfr=16, Product=32, SerialNumber=0 usb 1-1.1: Product:
 USBVGA usb 1-1.1: Manufacturer: MCT CORP *usbcore: registered new
 interface driver sisusb*
 
 Uso Debian GNU/Linux 7.4 (wheezy) 64-bit Kernel: Linux Debian 3.11.0 #1
 SMP PREEMPT Tue Sep 3 07:28:25 CDT 2013 x86_64 Pero no puedo hacerlo
 funcionar, sigo investigando por todos los medios,
 pero desde ayer no logro hacer que funcione este conector.

(...)

¿Y qué es lo que haces para probar si funciona y con qué resultado?

Por otra parte, conecta el aparato y manda la salida de dmesg | grep -i 
sisusb a ver qué te dice.

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[OT] Re: suscribe

El Tue, 18 Feb 2014 16:27:27 -0500, Admin de la Red DMS escribió:

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Re: Ejecutar aplicaciones en cliente desde servidor

El Wed, 19 Feb 2014 00:42:56 +0100, celtictux . escribió:

 El protocolo RDP no es seguro, lo que pides se puede hacer con
 GNU/Linux, con menor consumo de recursos y además de forma segura,
 mediante protocolo SSH.

¿De dónde sacas ese dato? 

Que yo sepa, las últimas especificaciones del protocolo pueden usar TLS 
tanto en la parte cliente como en la servidora.

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Re: Probar debian en un USB

El Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:38:24 +0100, Jorge escribió:

 Hola:

Ese html...

 Tengo instalado el Debian 7.2 en un lápiz USB y lo he instalado con la
 aplicación Unebootin. A la hora de darle a la opción 64 live para
 probarlo, funciona, se descarga los comandos correspondientes pero al
 final se queda en: user@debian:$.

Raro... ¿has instalado/iniciado algún entorno gráfico?

 Me gustaría saber que comando hay que escribir para que funcione todo al
 final y pueda probar el debian 7.2.

Para probar Debian lo mejor (lo más sencillo) es usar una versión Live (CD 
o USB) oficial que puedes descargar desde aquí:

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/

El proceso para generar el disco viene detallado en el manual de instalación

4.3.1. Preparación de una memoria USB utilizando una imagen de CD o DVD híbrida
https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.es#usb-copy-isohybrid

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC]Curso GNU/Linux Debian

2014-02-19 Thread Ramses

El 19/02/2014, a las 14:21, Maykel Franco maykeldeb...@gmail.com escribió:

 El día 19 de febrero de 2014, 14:09, Frank Harbey Sanabria Florez
 franksanab...@live.com.co escribió:
 7mo Capitulo del Curso de GNU/Linux por CLI publicado, en el cual hablaremos
 de los permisos de los archivos y directorios.
 
 Para Visualizar:
 http://servicios.sugeek.co/ventanas/capacitaciones/gnulinux.html
 
 
 
 
 From: franksanab...@live.com.co
 To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Subject: [OFF-TOPIC]Curso GNU/Linux Debian
 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 2014 14:18:37 -0500
 
 
 Buen dia,
 
 Ya se encuentra Disponible el 6to Capitulo del Curso Basico de GNU Linux
 usando Debian
 
 Para Descargar: http://sdrv.ms/1an6K1o
 Para Vizualisar:
 http://blog.sugeek.co/2013/11/curso-basico-de-gnulinux-debian.html
 
 En este capitulo se veran la administracion de uusarios y grupos, usando
 el editor de texto nano.
 
 
 
 
 From: franksanab...@live.com.co
 To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 09:09:04 -0500
 Subject: [U-co] [OFF-TOPIC]Capitulo 5: Curso GNU/Linux Debian
 
 
 
 
 Acabo de Subir el 5to Capitulo del Curso de GNU/Linux con Debian, en el
 cual se hablara un poco de los Directorios.
 
 Para Descargar: http://sdrv.ms/1an6K1o
 
 Para Vizualisar:
 http://blog.sugeek.co/2013/11/curso-basico-de-gnulinux-debian.html
 
 FRANK HARBEY SANABRIA FLOREZTecnologo en Telecomunicaciones y Sistemas
 Bogota - Colombia@franksanabria
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 Están muy bien los cursos muchas gracias. Sólo una sugerencia que ya
 te la hicieron, creo que Camaleón, podrías meter todos las partes del
 tutorial en el mismo hilo así nos es más fácil a mí y a todos
 encontrar las partes...

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Re: error al compilar kiwix

El Tue, 18 Feb 2014 20:09:40 -0500, J P escribió:

 El 2/18/2014 10:02 AM, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 Pues entonces, si no tienes ninguna necesidad de compilar el paquete 
 si quieres te lo mando por correo.

 pues te lo agradecería un montón :)

Sí, claro. Te mando un mensaje al privado.

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 libbz2-dev xulrunner-  xulrunner-dev libzzip-dev libzip-dev
 lzma-dev liblzma-dev libicu-dev zlib-bin libxapian-dev build-essential
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 los tengo instalados y persiste en error al hacer el make

Hum... ¿todos? ¿seguro? :-)

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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Debian se queda con systemd, bueno o malo??

2014-02-19 Thread Debian GMail


El 12/02/14 10:22, Maykel Franco escribió:

http://www.muylinux.com/2014/02/12/debian-systemd

Que les parece esta noticia? Opiniones?



Otro excelente artículo que pondera la dedicación y seriedad de la gente 
de Debian sobre Canonical.


http://www.linuxhispano.net/2014/02/18/repasando-la-relacion-de-ubuntu-con-upstart/

JAP


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RE: Probar debian en un USB

2014-02-19 Thread paco portables

Si no te funciona ninguna opcion puedes probar knoppix, derivado de debian muy 
bueno y especialmente dedicado a alojarse en una usb, incl. encriptacion
si no tambien puedes probar;
universal-usb-installer
yumi
multibootisos  (con este llegue a tener 40 live en un hdd-portable de 40 gb)
liveusbcreator
y en consola dd por excelencia: dd if=/ruta/atu/.iso of=/dev/sdx
.
.
.Que bonito asi descubri yo linux


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 From: noela...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Probar debian en un USB
 Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:51:15 +
 
 El Wed, 19 Feb 2014 11:38:24 +0100, Jorge escribió:
 
  Hola:
 
 Ese html...
 
  Tengo instalado el Debian 7.2 en un lápiz USB y lo he instalado con la
  aplicación Unebootin. A la hora de darle a la opción 64 live para
  probarlo, funciona, se descarga los comandos correspondientes pero al
  final se queda en: user@debian:$.
 
 Raro... ¿has instalado/iniciado algún entorno gráfico?
 
  Me gustaría saber que comando hay que escribir para que funcione todo al
  final y pueda probar el debian 7.2.
 
 Para probar Debian lo mejor (lo más sencillo) es usar una versión Live (CD 
 o USB) oficial que puedes descargar desde aquí:
 
 http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/i386/iso-hybrid/
 
 El proceso para generar el disco viene detallado en el manual de instalación
 
 4.3.1. Preparación de una memoria USB utilizando una imagen de CD o DVD 
 híbrida
 https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.es#usb-copy-isohybrid
 
 Saludos,
 
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Re: USB2VGA dongle

2014-02-19 Thread Raúl Israel Mora Rojas

Trato de configurar en el sistema, en los displays, pero no da señales de
vida y se supone que ya la debería reconocer.

dmesg:

usb 1-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 5 using ehci-pci
usb 1-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=0711, idProduct=5100
usb 1-1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=16, Product=32, SerialNumber=0
usb 1-1.1: Product: USBVGA
usb 1-1.1: Manufacturer: MCT CORP

root@debian:/tmp# dmesg | grep -i sisusb

root@debian:/tmp# modprobe sisusbvga

root@debian:/tmp# dmesg | grep -i sisusb

usbcore: registered new interface driver sisusb

root@debian:/tmp# dmesg | grep -i sisusb

usbcore: registered new interface driver sisusb

Cualquier otra duda o comentario me informas por favor.
Que tengas buen dia y gracias por tu respuesta.
Atte.
RAUL MORA


El 19 de febrero de 2014, 8:32, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:00:36 -0600, Raúl Israel Mora Rojas escribió:

  Es la primera vez que escribo a la lista, normalmente trato de contestar
  a las dudas.

 Pues ya deberías saber que el formato html en esta lista es cosa mala ;-)

  Pero ahora necesito de su ayuda.
  Tengo el adaptador siguiente:
 
  *Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0711:5100 Magic Control Technology Corp. Magic
  Control Technology Corp. (USB2VGA dongle)

 (...)

  Ya valide y si esta soportado por el kernel.
  Incluso con modprobe sisusbvga  ya esta cargado el modulo:
 
  usb 1-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 6 using ehci-pci usb 1-1.1:
  New USB device found, idVendor=0711, idProduct=5100 usb 1-1.1: New USB
  device strings: Mfr=16, Product=32, SerialNumber=0 usb 1-1.1: Product:
  USBVGA usb 1-1.1: Manufacturer: MCT CORP *usbcore: registered new
  interface driver sisusb*
 
  Uso Debian GNU/Linux 7.4 (wheezy) 64-bit Kernel: Linux Debian 3.11.0 #1
  SMP PREEMPT Tue Sep 3 07:28:25 CDT 2013 x86_64 Pero no puedo hacerlo
  funcionar, sigo investigando por todos los medios,
  pero desde ayer no logro hacer que funcione este conector.

 (...)

 ¿Y qué es lo que haces para probar si funciona y con qué resultado?

 Por otra parte, conecta el aparato y manda la salida de dmesg | grep -i
 sisusb a ver qué te dice.

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Re: USB2VGA dongle

El Wed, 19 Feb 2014 10:26:45 -0600, Raúl Israel Mora Rojas escribió:

Raúl recuerda desactivar el formato html cuando mandes un correo a la 
lista.

Y corrijo el top-posting.

 El 19 de febrero de 2014, 8:32, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

(...)

 ¿Y qué es lo que haces para probar si funciona y con qué resultado?

 Por otra parte, conecta el aparato y manda la salida de dmesg | grep
 -i sisusb a ver qué te dice.

 Trato de configurar en el sistema, en los displays, pero no da señales
 de vida y se supone que ya la debería reconocer.

Es decir, que has conectado un monitor VGA externo, lo has encendido pero 
el sistema no te lo detecta cuando lo vas a configurar desde el applet 
del monitor de ¿GNOME, KDE, XFCE... o qué entorno de escritorio usas?

 dmesg:
 
 usb 1-1.1: new high-speed USB device number 5 using ehci-pci 
 usb 1-1.1: New USB device found, idVendor=0711, idProduct=5100 
 usb 1-1.1: New USB device strings: Mfr=16, Product=32, SerialNumber=0 
 usb 1-1.1: Product: USBVGA usb 1-1.1: Manufacturer: MCT CORP

No, esto no te lo he pedido.

 root@debian:/tmp# dmesg | grep -i sisusb

 root@debian:/tmp# modprobe sisusbvga
 
 root@debian:/tmp# dmesg | grep -i sisusb
 
 usbcore: registered new interface driver sisusb

Algo raro pasa. El módulo del kernel no está cargado y debería hacerlo 
*automáticamente* en cuanto conectas el dispositivo al puerto USB.

Mejor si subes el archivo /var/log/syslog completo a www.pastebin.com.

En Google he encontrado esto:

http://www.comerma.net/usb2vga_en.html

Parece que se trata de tu aparato ¿no? 

Ahí dice que el kernel (aunque no especifica la versión de la que habla 
ni veo fecha de publicación del artículo) lo detecta pero no lo configura 
como debe, que hay que recompilar el módulo del kernel y añadir el 
identificador del dispositivo para que funcione correctamente.

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Solucion streaming video y audio

2014-02-19 Thread mramirez


Estimados masters:
Espero se encuentren todos bien.

Quisiese leer comentarios y sugerencias de uds, en base a sus  
experiencias, de soluciones open source, para debian (u otras  
distribuciones),  para transmitir streaming de audio solamente y video  
(imagenes mas audio).


Conocen alguna que puedan recomendar?

Necesito transmitir algunas cosillas a traves de Internet.

Gracias por compartir sus experiencias y conocimientos.

Salu2 a to2,
MR


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Re: Solucion streaming video y audio

2014-02-19 Thread Alejandro Gabriel Sánchez Martínez

El Mié 19 Feb 2014 14:59:50 mrami...@iciuchile.cl escribió:
 Estimados masters:
 Espero se encuentren todos bien.
 
 Quisiese leer comentarios y sugerencias de uds, en base a sus
 experiencias, de soluciones open source, para debian (u otras
 distribuciones),  para transmitir streaming de audio solamente y video
 (imagenes mas audio).
 
 Conocen alguna que puedan recomendar?
 
 Necesito transmitir algunas cosillas a traves de Internet.
 
 Gracias por compartir sus experiencias y conocimientos.
 
 Salu2 a to2,
 MR

Dependerá de que quieres hacer exactamente,  tranasmitir a un servidor  
externo y de ahi que se conecten los usuarios o tu ser el servidor  a donde se 
van a conectar los usuarios, si esto último es lo que quieres hacer recuerda 
que necesitaras mucho, pero mucho ancho de banda. 


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tarjeta o USB Capturado de video HDMI para linux

2014-02-19 Thread Alejandro Gabriel Sánchez Martínez

Tendrán alguna referencia de marca y modelo de una tarjeta  o usb  para 
capturar video por medio de HDMI compatible con debian o linux en general.
 
Actualmente utilizamos una por video compuesto pero queremos mejorar a hdmi.

Un saludo
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Re: Solucion streaming video y audio

2014-02-19 Thread jors

On 19 de febrero de 2014 18:59:50 CET, mrami...@iciuchile.cl wrote:
Estimados masters:

Sí, del Universo.

Espero se encuentren todos bien.

Por aquí andamos, por Eternia :P

Quisiese leer comentarios y sugerencias de uds, en base a sus  
experiencias, de soluciones open source, para debian (u otras  
distribuciones),  para transmitir streaming de audio solamente y video 

(imagenes mas audio).

Conocen alguna que puedan recomendar?

Para audio puedes usar icecast, para video diria que puede servirte vlc, aunque 
no tuve la ocasión de probarlo.

Necesito transmitir algunas cosillas a traves de Internet.

Gracias por compartir sus experiencias y conocimientos.

Salu2 a to2,
MR

Salut,
jors



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Re: tarjeta o USB Capturado de video HDMI para linux

2014-02-19 Thread Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda

Yo utilizo esta y funciona wheezy


00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 01)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce
210] (rev a2)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation High Definition Audio
Controller (rev a1)

http://www.nvidia.es/object/product_geforce_210_es.html




*Saludos;*



El día 19 de febrero de 2014, 14:23, Alejandro Gabriel Sánchez
Martínez asanch...@e-compugraf.com escribió:
 Tendrán alguna referencia de marca y modelo de una tarjeta  o usb  para
 capturar video por medio de HDMI compatible con debian o linux en general.

 Actualmente utilizamos una por video compuesto pero queremos mejorar a hdmi.

 Un saludo
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Re: tarjeta o USB Capturado de video HDMI para linux

2014-02-19 Thread Alejandro Gabriel Sánchez Martínez

El Mié 19 Feb 2014 14:55:52 Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda escribió:
 Yo utilizo esta y funciona wheezy
 
 
 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 01)
 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce
 210] (rev a2)
 01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation High Definition Audio
 Controller (rev a1)
 
 http://www.nvidia.es/object/product_geforce_210_es.html
 

Pero esta tarjeta , ¿captura video por el hdmi? o solo la despliega

 
 
 El día 19 de febrero de 2014, 14:23, Alejandro Gabriel Sánchez
 
 Martínez asanch...@e-compugraf.com escribió:
  Tendrán alguna referencia de marca y modelo de una tarjeta  o usb  para
  capturar video por medio de HDMI compatible con debian o linux en general.
  
  Actualmente utilizamos una por video compuesto pero queremos mejorar a
  hdmi.
  
  Un saludo


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Montar disco externo de pc en windows 2003

2014-02-19 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia

Será posible montar un disco externo que esta en una pc con windows 2003 
server la cual pertenece al un dominio y el acceso a dicho disco es a través 
de un usuario del dominio al cual pertenece la pc en windows 2003 server.


Demás está decir que la pc donde deseo montar el disco es una pc con debian 
7.4. Esta pc en debian no tiene ningún entorno gráfico montado.


Se aceptan todas las opiniones.

Desde ya Gracias

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PD: Mis conocimientos en este tema son nulos, así que aunque aporten poco 
siempre será mayor a los conocimientos que poseo del tema.




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Re: Montar disco externo de pc en windows 2003

2014-02-19 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez

El Wed, 19 Feb 2014 14:34:53 -0500
Ismael L. Donis Garcia ism...@citricos.co.cu escribió:

 Será posible montar un disco externo que esta en una pc con windows 2003 
 server la cual pertenece al un dominio y el acceso a dicho disco es a través 
 de un usuario del dominio al cual pertenece la pc en windows 2003 server.
 

de donde sacaste que el acceso al disco se hace a traves de un usuario de 
dominio??
esta encriptado??
Si no esta encriptado cualquiera puede acceder al disco

 Demás está decir que la pc donde deseo montar el disco es una pc con debian 
 7.4. Esta pc en debian no tiene ningún entorno gráfico montado.
 
 Se aceptan todas las opiniones.
 
 Desde ya Gracias
 
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 PD: Mis conocimientos en este tema son nulos, así que aunque aporten poco 
 siempre será mayor a los conocimientos que poseo del tema.
 
 
 
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Re: [OFF-TOPIC] Debian se queda con systemd, bueno o malo??

2014-02-19 Thread Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso

On Wednesday 19 February 2014 12:22:47 Debian GMail wrote:
 El 12/02/14 10:22, Maykel Franco escribió:
  http://www.muylinux.com/2014/02/12/debian-systemd
  
  Que les parece esta noticia? Opiniones?

Yo no diría que este hilo es offtopic. Es mucho más on-topic que otros hilos 
que se suelen leer.

Muchas de sus críticas es que es demasiado complejo y se aleja de la filosofía 
Unix. Ahí no tengo mucho que decir. El hecho de que sea específico para 
GNU/Linux no lo veodemasiado porblemático. Otras variantes de Debian (que son 
más experimentales todo hay que decirlo) pueden seguir usando sysv u otros 
sistemas de inicio.

Soy un simple usuario de desktop, por lo que no tengo una opinión fuerte sobre 
los aspectos técnicos, pero he estado probando un debian testing con systemd y 
tengo la impresión (completamente subjetiva, sin nada que l apueda respaldar) 
de que el sistema responde más rápido, no solo durante el arranque.

No lo veo mal.

Luis


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Re: Solucion streaming video y audio

2014-02-19 Thread Lucho Lopez

El 19 de febrero de 2014, 15:59, mrami...@iciuchile.cl escribió:

 Estimados masters:
 Espero se encuentren todos bien.

 Quisiese leer comentarios y sugerencias de uds, en base a sus
experiencias, de soluciones open source, para debian (u otras
distribuciones),  para transmitir streaming de audio solamente y video
(imagenes mas audio).

 Conocen alguna que puedan recomendar?

Yo en su momento use flumotion, que no estaba tan mal, pero ahora es un
proyecto abandonado y sin soporte...
De todas maneras, logré ponerlo en marcha para hacer live streaming de
audio/video para mostrarlo en una web. Pero si dio muchos dolores de cabeza
porque no había a quien acudir por ayuda.


 Necesito transmitir algunas cosillas a traves de Internet.

 Gracias por compartir sus experiencias y conocimientos.

 Salu2 a to2,
 MR

Saludos!!
Luis

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Re: Probar debian en un USB

2014-02-19 Thread Felix Perez

El día 19 de febrero de 2014, 7:38, Jorge fur...@gmail.com escribió:
 Hola:

 Tengo instalado el Debian 7.2 en un lápiz USB y lo he instalado con la
 aplicación Unebootin. A la hora de darle a la opción 64 live para
 probarlo, funciona, se descarga los comandos correspondientes pero al final
 se queda en: user@debian:$.

Te falta, decir con voz seria, profunda y en voz alta:
¡Abrete Debian!

:-)

 Me gustaría saber que comando hay que escribir para que funcione todo al
 final y pueda probar el debian 7.2.

 Gracias

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Re: Probar debian en un USB

2014-02-19 Thread Ariel Martin Bellio


El 19/02/2014 11:49 p.m., Felix Perez escribió:

El día 19 de febrero de 2014, 7:38, Jorge fur...@gmail.com escribió:

Hola:

Tengo instalado el Debian 7.2 en un lápiz USB y lo he instalado con la
aplicación Unebootin. A la hora de darle a la opción 64 live para
probarlo, funciona, se descarga los comandos correspondientes pero al final
se queda en: user@debian:$.

Te falta, decir con voz seria, profunda y en voz alta:
¡Abrete Debian!

:-)


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final y pueda probar el debian 7.2.

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Re: Val av databas

2014-02-19 Thread Anders Jackson

Den 17 februari 2014 08:37 skrev Thomas Dahlén erikthomasdah...@gmail.com:
Hej!

Hej

Ska installera phpbb3 - där kan man välja mellan mysql, pgsql samt
sqlite. SQLite förefaller väldigt smidig när man läser på dess hemsida
men jag ska även installera Wordpress och där är standarden PHP och
MySQL. Jag har noterat att många byter från MySQL till MariaDB.

SQLite är en lättvikts-SQL som kör mot filsystemet och bara mot ett
program i taget. Det normala är att man länkar in SQLite i
programmet, som exempelvis i Firefox.

MySQL och MariaDB är likvärdiga (fortfarande) eftersom de till stora
delar består av samma källkod. Så MariaDB är en gaffling (forked) av
MySQL.

MySQL, MariaDB och Postgresql är mer fullvuxna databashanterare än
SQLite som kan hantera flera databaser och flera program som är
anslutna till dem samtidigt.

Är det någon som har ett gott råd vid valet av databas till phpbb3?

Använd någon av de fullvuxna. Om du har flera program som använder
SQL så se vad de har för krav. Annars är det inte så stor skillnad
dem emellan.

Är det en god tanke att installera Wordpress enligt Debian
https://wiki.debian.org/WordPress och kanske längre fram byta från MySQL
till MariaDB. Kanske både Debian och Wordpress kommer införa mariaDB som
standardval?

Uppgradering till MariaDB kommer nog att bli trivial från MySQL.

Jag tror att Debian är på väg mot MariaDB. Så valet du står mellan är
då MySQL och Postgresql. Flesta Wordpress-installationer brukar
använda MySQL, men det behöver inte betyda att det är det bästa valet.
;-)

Mvh
Thomas

Lycka till.
/Jackson

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Re: Val av databas

2014-02-19 Thread Thomas Dahlén


On 2014-02-19 22:32, Anders Jackson wrote:

Den 17 februari 2014 08:37 skrev Thomas Dahlén erikthomasdah...@gmail.com:

Hej!

Hej


Ska installera phpbb3 - där kan man välja mellan mysql, pgsql samt
sqlite. SQLite förefaller väldigt smidig när man läser på dess hemsida
men jag ska även installera Wordpress och där är standarden PHP och
MySQL. Jag har noterat att många byter från MySQL till MariaDB.

SQLite är en lättvikts-SQL som kör mot filsystemet och bara mot ett
program i taget.  Det normala är att man länkar in SQLite i
programmet, som exempelvis i Firefox.

MySQL och MariaDB är likvärdiga (fortfarande) eftersom de till stora
delar består av samma källkod.  Så MariaDB är en gaffling (forked) av
MySQL.

MySQL, MariaDB och Postgresql är mer fullvuxna databashanterare än
SQLite som kan hantera flera databaser och flera program som är
anslutna till dem samtidigt.


Är det någon som har ett gott råd vid valet av databas till phpbb3?

Använd någon av de fullvuxna. Om du har flera program som använder
SQL så se vad de har för krav.  Annars är det inte så stor skillnad
dem emellan.


Är det en god tanke att installera Wordpress enligt Debian
https://wiki.debian.org/WordPress och kanske längre fram byta från MySQL
till MariaDB. Kanske både Debian och Wordpress kommer införa mariaDB som
standardval?

Uppgradering till MariaDB kommer nog att bli trivial från MySQL.

Jag tror att Debian är på väg mot MariaDB.  Så valet du står mellan är
då MySQL och Postgresql.  Flesta Wordpress-installationer brukar
använda MySQL, men det behöver inte betyda att det är det bästa valet.
;-)


Mvh
Thomas

Lycka till.
/Jackson




Hej Anders!

Tack för dina goda råd och förklaringar!
Mvh
Thomas


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Re: Debian Servidor NAS on Flash disk read-only

2014-02-19 Thread carne_de_passaro

Bom dia,

Quando você diz que montou a partição do sistema em read-only, você quis
dizer que montou tudo em read-only menos os HD do /dados do seu
compartilhamento?

Você poderia separar o /var do seu sistema e aí montar tudo em read-only
menos o /var, porque o samba tenta sempre escrever nos arquivos que ficam
no /var/lib e nos logs que ele utiliza em /var/log.




Em 19 de fevereiro de 2014 01:37, Marco A matrix.ho...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Prezados ,

 Fiz instalação do Debian Squeeze  atraves da ferramenta dbootstrap em
 uma flash ide com  512mb   , pra rodar um servidorzinho de aquivos
 tipo NAS com o servidor Samba,compartilhando dois hd de 1tb em Raid.

 Fiz a instalação do  Samba ,com as configuraçoes minimas e tudo
 funcionou. Para proteger a flash e os arquivos de sistema e assim
 poder desligar direto no botao power , montei a partiçao somente
 leitura, porem nesta situação o Samba nao roda ,ou seja ele vai subir
 sem problemas  somente quando monto a partiçao do sistema como
 escrita.

 Estive pesquisando , e me parece que o samba  precisa de escrita em
 alguns arquivos de sistema , entao no meu cenario seria necessario
 montar estes aquivos na ram atraves de links simbolicos  , se
 realmente é este o problema  quais seriam?

  Segue as configurações do fstab e do smb.conf .

 Desde já agradeço uma luz

 Marcos

 Este é o erro que apresenta ao restartar o samba;
 Stopping Samba daemons: nmbd smbdstart-stop-daemon: warning: failed to
 kill 931: No such process


 config do samba

 [global]
 workgroup = home
 server string = server
 netbios name = servidor
 #security = share
 security = share
 dns proxy = no


 [dados]
 path = /dados/
 #path = /hd1/
 writable = yes
 browseable = yes
 public = yes
 #create mask = 0777
 #directory mask = 0777


 Fstab

 UUID=77c706f3-4a3a-451c-9982-39365e350ace / ext2 defaults,noatime,ro 0 0

 UUID=af7f3d56-c0ba-4c46-87bb-7374d9b2b99f /dados auto
 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1

 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
 #tmpfs /var/lib/dhcp3 tmpfs defaults 0 0
 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0
 tmpfs /var/tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0
 tmpfs /var/run tmpfs defaults 0 0
 tmpfs /var/log tmpfs defaults 0 0
 tmpfs /var/lock tmpfs defaults 0 0


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Re: Debian Servidor NAS on Flash disk read-only

2014-02-19 Thread Fábio Rabelo

Este artigo descreve com detalhes o que precisa ser feito p/q a sua
solução funcione :

http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/75-debian/53-debian-server-compact-flash


Fábio Rabelo

Em 19 de fevereiro de 2014 08:44, carne_de_passaro
carnedepass...@gmail.com escreveu:
 Bom dia,

 Quando você diz que montou a partição do sistema em read-only, você quis
 dizer que montou tudo em read-only menos os HD do /dados do seu
 compartilhamento?

 Você poderia separar o /var do seu sistema e aí montar tudo em read-only
 menos o /var, porque o samba tenta sempre escrever nos arquivos que ficam no
 /var/lib e nos logs que ele utiliza em /var/log.




 Em 19 de fevereiro de 2014 01:37, Marco A matrix.ho...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Prezados ,

 Fiz instalação do Debian Squeeze  atraves da ferramenta dbootstrap em
 uma flash ide com  512mb   , pra rodar um servidorzinho de aquivos
 tipo NAS com o servidor Samba,compartilhando dois hd de 1tb em Raid.

 Fiz a instalação do  Samba ,com as configuraçoes minimas e tudo
 funcionou. Para proteger a flash e os arquivos de sistema e assim
 poder desligar direto no botao power , montei a partiçao somente
 leitura, porem nesta situação o Samba nao roda ,ou seja ele vai subir
 sem problemas  somente quando monto a partiçao do sistema como
 escrita.

 Estive pesquisando , e me parece que o samba  precisa de escrita em
 alguns arquivos de sistema , entao no meu cenario seria necessario
 montar estes aquivos na ram atraves de links simbolicos  , se
 realmente é este o problema  quais seriam?

  Segue as configurações do fstab e do smb.conf .

 Desde já agradeço uma luz

 Marcos

 Este é o erro que apresenta ao restartar o samba;
 Stopping Samba daemons: nmbd smbdstart-stop-daemon: warning: failed to
 kill 931: No such process


 config do samba

 [global]
 workgroup = home
 server string = server
 netbios name = servidor
 #security = share
 security = share
 dns proxy = no


 [dados]
 path = /dados/
 #path = /hd1/
 writable = yes
 browseable = yes
 public = yes
 #create mask = 0777
 #directory mask = 0777


 Fstab

 UUID=77c706f3-4a3a-451c-9982-39365e350ace / ext2 defaults,noatime,ro 0 0

 UUID=af7f3d56-c0ba-4c46-87bb-7374d9b2b99f /dados auto
 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1

 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
 #tmpfs /var/lib/dhcp3 tmpfs defaults 0 0
 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0
 tmpfs /var/tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0
 tmpfs /var/run tmpfs defaults 0 0
 tmpfs /var/log tmpfs defaults 0 0
 tmpfs /var/lock tmpfs defaults 0 0


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Re: Debian Servidor NAS on Flash disk read-only

2014-02-19 Thread Marco A

opa,

bom dia  mano;
 isso mesmo a partiçao /dados esta montada como escrita(vide fstab
enviada na mensagem)

Vou proceder conforme sua sugestão,
Os logs  já estao em tmpfs conforme o fstab menos var/lib

obrigado pela dica

forte abraço
Marcos



Em 19 de fevereiro de 2014 08:44, carne_de_passaro
carnedepass...@gmail.com escreveu:
 Bom dia,

 Quando você diz que montou a partição do sistema em read-only, você quis
 dizer que montou tudo em read-only menos os HD do /dados do seu
 compartilhamento?

 Você poderia separar o /var do seu sistema e aí montar tudo em read-only
 menos o /var, porque o samba tenta sempre escrever nos arquivos que ficam no
 /var/lib e nos logs que ele utiliza em /var/log.




 Em 19 de fevereiro de 2014 01:37, Marco A matrix.ho...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Prezados ,

 Fiz instalação do Debian Squeeze  atraves da ferramenta dbootstrap em
 uma flash ide com  512mb   , pra rodar um servidorzinho de aquivos
 tipo NAS com o servidor Samba,compartilhando dois hd de 1tb em Raid.

 Fiz a instalação do  Samba ,com as configuraçoes minimas e tudo
 funcionou. Para proteger a flash e os arquivos de sistema e assim
 poder desligar direto no botao power , montei a partiçao somente
 leitura, porem nesta situação o Samba nao roda ,ou seja ele vai subir
 sem problemas  somente quando monto a partiçao do sistema como
 escrita.

 Estive pesquisando , e me parece que o samba  precisa de escrita em
 alguns arquivos de sistema , entao no meu cenario seria necessario
 montar estes aquivos na ram atraves de links simbolicos  , se
 realmente é este o problema  quais seriam?

  Segue as configurações do fstab e do smb.conf .

 Desde já agradeço uma luz

 Marcos

 Este é o erro que apresenta ao restartar o samba;
 Stopping Samba daemons: nmbd smbdstart-stop-daemon: warning: failed to
 kill 931: No such process


 config do samba

 [global]
 workgroup = home
 server string = server
 netbios name = servidor
 #security = share
 security = share
 dns proxy = no


 [dados]
 path = /dados/
 #path = /hd1/
 writable = yes
 browseable = yes
 public = yes
 #create mask = 0777
 #directory mask = 0777


 Fstab

 UUID=77c706f3-4a3a-451c-9982-39365e350ace / ext2 defaults,noatime,ro 0 0

 UUID=af7f3d56-c0ba-4c46-87bb-7374d9b2b99f /dados auto
 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1

 proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
 #tmpfs /var/lib/dhcp3 tmpfs defaults 0 0
 tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0
 tmpfs /var/tmp tmpfs defaults,noatime 0 0
 tmpfs /var/run tmpfs defaults 0 0
 tmpfs /var/log tmpfs defaults 0 0
 tmpfs /var/lock tmpfs defaults 0 0


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Re: [OT] KDM No Longer In KDE ?!?

Scott Ferguson writes:
  On 18/02/14 22:17, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
   Scott Ferguson writes:
 
   http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2010-November/97.html
   
   I have to check wheter the seamless X11 support in Snow Leopard is still
   not so seamless as it was Panther (i.e. character rendering, sometimes
   close to unreadable). Gotta check this evening.
  
  I'm not sure Apple is an appropriate reference for Linux, but then also
  you've previously made the point the Linux is not POSIX and seem to find
  that a problem (GNU?).

Are you sure I did that statement?

  I don't see why Linux shouldn't lead instead of
  follow flawed models - but it's not my call.

I agree with you. The problem for me is that it seems to follow these
models.

I got your quoting as some form of endorsment of the document at the
first link. Re-reading your message there is nothing confirming and
nothing denying.

Anyway: the reference  to Apple was due a statement  in that document,
and I did a  test this morning, and X11 support  in Snow Leopard... Is
the same as in Panther.

   I  am  not  sure  I  would  use  such  an  architecture  for  a  local
   application, at least today.
   
   That would mean to use some sort of application server, the
   application within the application server and then a browser to run
   the app.
   
   Very heavy for the machine. 
  
  Not necessarily. e.g. https://apps.rutgers.edu/novnc/
  http://www.cybelesoft.com/thinrdp/

It's a VNC that uses a browser...  Nice, but VNC like stuff is not a
replacement for X. I would like to see how much power is required to
run it.

  On the few occasions that I need more than a remote terminal I find x2go
  has more useful features and uses less resources than x forwarding and

Less resources... Which resources? Bandwidth? Memory?

X11 is weak when you start displaying large bitmap images (as weak as
the underlying network link). I did run the first set of OpenMoko apps
doing remote display through a ethernet-over-USB link and they worked
fine (it was the telephony that was junk).

   I know that HTML 5 can do wonderful things. I am working on a program
   thad does HEAVY use of html 5 and javascript, a program meant to run
   on either the desktop or a tablet. I had to beef mine to 8G mostly
   because of the JavaScript/HTML5 part of the architecture
  
  I'm definitely not an expert on javascript[*1] - but 8GiB RAM
  requirement seems like it could use some optimising. Have you made use
  of HTML5s full local capabilities?

The problem was the browser  that grown its memory footprint, possibly
due  the changes  in the  code. Google  guys are  known for  very high
javascript skills, but belive me, Google mail is not half as complex as
the application I am working on. It's a simple mail client, not part
of an ERP system for the health care system :).
   
   Then what? two output modules for the same program? 
  
  Huh?

If you do not use HTML5 for both local and remote output then you need
two output modules.

   By  the way,  the application  I  am working  on relies  on a  certain
   implementation (webkit) and does not run on, say, firefox.
  
  Then you don't ask anyone else why some applications don't respect
  standards. :)

Sadly I am not in charge neither in the architecture nor in the licensing...

   Wonderful, HTML 5  succeeded in turning the clock about  20 years back
   when IE3  understood (non  standard) tags that  Netscape did  not (and
   vice versa).
  
  I'm not sure what you're trying to say there... HTML4 is a standard, but
  not all browsers support all the tags recognised by the various browsers.
  HTML5 has only recently (4th Feb) become a W3C *Candidate*

That is. We are back to the mid '90. How long will we need to wait until
an application will run on mozilla or webkit implementation w/o problems?

That's o.t. with kde and kdm. Thanks for adding the tag :)

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Re: need help on using crontab

2014-02-19 Thread Dom


On 19/02/14 07:13, Tom Furie wrote:

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:56:50AM -0500, Long Wind wrote:


I want to shutdown at 5:03
I check with crontab -l
it seems OK


Depending on how you created the file the format may or may not be okay.
Did you create the file in /etc/cron.d, or as a user with 'crontab -e'?
Given that you say 'crontab -l' seems okay I suspect the latter.



From the original post, Long Wind seems to have used the original 
method of creating crontabs:


crontab name of file to use as new crontab

The usual sequence (on the old Unix systems I used to admin) was:

crontab -l  mycronfile
vi mycronfile (to edit)
crontab mycronfile

crontab -e is much easier and safer to use.


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Re: need help on using crontab

2014-02-19 Thread Long Wind

On 2/19/14, Raffaele Morelli raffaele.more...@gmail.com wrote:


 ??




 First of all, is cron running?
 Have a `grep for CRON syslog`


I find that shutdown can take a time argument
so why do I bother with cron

Thank Raffaele Morelli  and Tom anyway!


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7z command works fine on command line but not in script


Hello.

I made a script to extract music from a jamendo archive, but for a 
reason I do not know, 7z does not accept the command line. I also echoed 
it, to be able to know what it tries to run, and it works fine when ran 
on command line.


Here is the script:

#!/bin/sh

for i in *.zip;
do
artiste=`echo $i|cut -f1 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`
album=`echo $i|cut -f2 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`
mkdir $artiste/$album -p
7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\ || rmdir $artiste/$album -p
echo 7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\
done

With, for example, this archive: 
http://www.jamendo.com/fr/list/a69778/monument, the folders are 
correctly created, but it prints:

Error: Incorrect command line
7z x Shearer - Monument - a69778 --- Jamendo - MP3 VBR 192k.zip 
-oShearer/Monument


Do someone knows what I am doing wrong?


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Re: [OT] KDM No Longer In KDE ?!?

On 19/02/14 19:11, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
 Scott Ferguson writes:
   On 18/02/14 22:17, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
Scott Ferguson writes:
  
 http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2010-November/97.html

I have to check wheter the seamless X11 support in Snow Leopard is 
 still
not so seamless as it was Panther (i.e. character rendering, sometimes
close to unreadable). Gotta check this evening.

I'll leave that to you - I don't pay a lot of attention to Apple, or
Windoof, as they're not particularly relevant in my sector.

   
   I'm not sure Apple is an appropriate reference for Linux, but then also
   you've previously made the point the Linux is not POSIX and seem to find
   that a problem (GNU?).
 
 Are you sure I did that statement?

No, I wasn't digitally signed. But it did have your distinctive
X-echelon-food: header. :)

 
   I don't see why Linux shouldn't lead instead of
   follow flawed models - but it's not my call.
 
 I agree with you. The problem for me is that it seems to follow these
 models.
 
 I got your quoting as some form of endorsment of the document at the
 first link. Re-reading your message there is nothing confirming and
 nothing denying.

It (my referencing it) was unclear :/  (life doesn't permit me the time
I'd like to spend answering list posts - or that they deserve).
The whole thread is most enlightening as it encapsulates issues
(Wayland/network).


 
 Anyway: the reference  to Apple was due a statement  in that document,
 and I did a  test this morning, and X11 support  in Snow Leopard... Is
 the same as in Panther.
 
I  am  not  sure  I  would  use  such  an  architecture  for  a  local
application, at least today.

That would mean to use some sort of application server, the
application within the application server and then a browser to run
the app.

Very heavy for the machine. 
   
   Not necessarily. e.g. https://apps.rutgers.edu/novnc/
   http://www.cybelesoft.com/thinrdp/
 
 It's a VNC that uses a browser...  Nice, but VNC like stuff is not a
 replacement for X. 

X serves both local and remote needs - and it's difficult to separate
the two. That makes development difficult. While the Multix/Unix (I know
the joke) endeavored to satisfy all future needs there are some it
didn't anticipate (micro/mobile devices and their power limitations).

I only quickly referenced a few alternatives - WebRTC is something I
find very interesting. If any alternatives fully replicated X they'd
probably include it's failings. Being able to natively render remote
applications and/or environments (not merely display) is an advantage,
not a failing (IMO).

 I would like to see how much power is required to
 run it.

Runs fine across Australian 3G broadband (two tin cans a bit of string
and the attorney general playing man-in-the-middle) with an old Thinkpad
T22 (256MB RAM) as the client. Server requirements are minimal, and can
use a web server for browser clients. Exact figures would depend on
server screen size and plasma plugins.

 
   On the few occasions that I need more than a remote terminal I find x2go
   has more useful features and uses less resources than x forwarding and
 
 Less resources... Which resources? Bandwidth? Memory?

Both.

 
 X11 is weak when you start displaying large bitmap images (as weak as
 the underlying network link). I did run the first set of OpenMoko apps
 doing remote display through a ethernet-over-USB link and they worked
 fine (it was the telephony that was junk).

Latency is a major problem with bitmap over network, and bitmap is a
very inefficient graphic to begin with.

 
I know that HTML 5 can do wonderful things. I am working on a program
thad does HEAVY use of html 5 and javascript, a program meant to run
on either the desktop or a tablet. I had to beef mine to 8G mostly
because of the JavaScript/HTML5 part of the architecture
   
   I'm definitely not an expert on javascript[*1] - but 8GiB RAM
   requirement seems like it could use some optimising. Have you made use
   of HTML5s full local capabilities?
 
 The problem was the browser  that grown its memory footprint, possibly
 due  the changes  in the  code. Google  guys are  known for  very high
 javascript skills, but belive me, Google mail is not half as complex as
 the application I am working on. It's a simple mail client, not part
 of an ERP system for the health care system :).

The only ERPs I'm familiar with have significant room for remote client
improvement - the two main commercial offerings and the three Open
Source ones (though OpenERP is barely Open Source).


Then what? two output modules for the same program? 
   
   Huh?
 
 If you do not use HTML5 for both local and remote output then you need
 two output modules.

Only if you chose *not* to use HTML5 to render the remote output. I'm
struggling to think of a valid reason for that - for what it's worth.
Even non-gui clients can

Re: 7z command works fine on command line but not in script

On 19/02/14 19:47, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I made a script to extract music from a jamendo archive, but for a
 reason I do not know, 7z does not accept the command line. I also echoed
 it, to be able to know what it tries to run, and it works fine when ran
 on command line.
 
 Here is the script:
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 for i in *.zip;
 do
 artiste=`echo $i|cut -f1 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`
 album=`echo $i|cut -f2 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`
 mkdir $artiste/$album -p
 7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\ || rmdir $artiste/$album -p
 echo 7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\
 done
 
 With, for example, this archive:
 http://www.jamendo.com/fr/list/a69778/monument, the folders are
 correctly created, but it prints:
 Error: Incorrect command line
 7z x Shearer - Monument - a69778 --- Jamendo - MP3 VBR 192k.zip
 -oShearer/Monument
 
 Do someone knows what I am doing wrong?
 
 

Maybe passing - without a recognised qualifier (after the
$artiste/$album\) ??

Kind regards


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Re: [OT] KDM No Longer In KDE ?!?

Scott Ferguson writes:
   Are you sure I did that statement?
  
  No, I wasn't digitally signed. But it did have your distinctive
  X-echelon-food: header. :)

O.K. it is mine. Gotta understand which of the several personalities
did that statement and why. BTW, the other ones feels a bit
unauthoritative on this subject...
 
   I got your quoting as some form of endorsment of the document at the
   first link. Re-reading your message there is nothing confirming and
   nothing denying.
  
  It (my referencing it) was unclear :/

A common problem, it seems :)

   I would like to see how much power is required to
   run it.
  
  Runs fine across Australian 3G broadband (two tin cans a bit of string
  and the attorney general playing man-in-the-middle) with an old Thinkpad
  T22 (256MB RAM) as the client.

Half of my coworkers reacted to my laughter thinking I was going
completly mad.  (The other half knows it already happened a long
before).

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Re: 7z command works fine on command line but not in script




Le 19.02.2014 09:53, Scott Ferguson a écrit :

On 19/02/14 19:47, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:

Hello.

I made a script to extract music from a jamendo archive, but for a
reason I do not know, 7z does not accept the command line. I also 
echoed
it, to be able to know what it tries to run, and it works fine when 
ran

on command line.

Here is the script:

#!/bin/sh

for i in *.zip;
do
artiste=`echo $i|cut -f1 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`
album=`echo $i|cut -f2 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`
mkdir $artiste/$album -p
7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\ || rmdir $artiste/$album -p
echo 7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\
done

With, for example, this archive:
http://www.jamendo.com/fr/list/a69778/monument, the folders are
correctly created, but it prints:
Error: Incorrect command line
7z x Shearer - Monument - a69778 --- Jamendo - MP3 VBR 192k.zip
-oShearer/Monument

Do someone knows what I am doing wrong?




Maybe passing - without a recognised qualifier (after the
$artiste/$album\) ??

Kind regards


It does not change anything.

I have some progress, when I do this:
7z x \'$i\' -o\'$artiste/$album\'
instead of
7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\

But the the error become there is no such archive. I wonder if the 
easier would not be to try another unarchiver...



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Re: 7z command works fine on command line but not in script




Le 19.02.2014 10:30, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit :

Le 19.02.2014 09:53, Scott Ferguson a écrit :

On 19/02/14 19:47, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:

Hello.

I made a script to extract music from a jamendo archive, but for a
reason I do not know, 7z does not accept the command line. I also 
echoed
it, to be able to know what it tries to run, and it works fine when 
ran

on command line.

Here is the script:

#!/bin/sh

for i in *.zip;
do
artiste=`echo $i|cut -f1 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`
album=`echo $i|cut -f2 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`
mkdir $artiste/$album -p
7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\ || rmdir $artiste/$album -p
echo 7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\
done

With, for example, this archive:
http://www.jamendo.com/fr/list/a69778/monument, the folders are
correctly created, but it prints:
Error: Incorrect command line
7z x Shearer - Monument - a69778 --- Jamendo - MP3 VBR 192k.zip
-oShearer/Monument

Do someone knows what I am doing wrong?




Maybe passing - without a recognised qualifier (after the
$artiste/$album\) ??

Kind regards


It does not change anything.

I have some progress, when I do this:
7z x \'$i\' -o\'$artiste/$album\'
instead of
7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\

But the the error become there is no such archive. I wonder if the
easier would not be to try another unarchiver...


Ok, I have found the error, thanks to unzip and it's real error 
messages ( it does not just says I failed, but it explains the reason, 
by giving what names it tried, which is the only good way to allow a 
user to understand what is the problem, imo. I may start to use it for 
real I guess. ).

The correct line is:
7z x $i -o$artiste/$album

I just wonder how it will behave if there are more exotic names... but 
I'll see that when I'll have the problem, for now it works. Thanks for 
help.



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Re: [OT] KDM No Longer In KDE ?!?

2014-02-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness

On 2/19/14, Gian Uberto Lauri sa...@eng.it wrote:
 Scott Ferguson writes:
Are you sure I did that statement?
  
   No, I wasn't digitally signed. But it did have your distinctive
   X-echelon-food: header. :)

 O.K. it is mine. Gotta understand which of the several personalities
 did that statement and why. BTW, the other ones feels a bit
 unauthoritative on this subject...

Yes, the problem with multiple personalities - the other ones often
are unauthoritative.
Also, can never be quite sure what one of those other personalities
really means, they say the doggendest things sometimes..

Ah, what we 'ave to put up with... I do empathise.

:)


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Re: 7z command works fine on command line but not in script

Just read your last post before sending this, so this may no longer be
relevant... I don't know that you need to quote the variables. I use
coloured bash so it is usually obvious if I need to. P.S. without the
quotes you won't need the escapes - just quote the whole filename (which
may be what you are lacking).

On 19/02/14 20:30, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
 
 
 Le 19.02.2014 09:53, Scott Ferguson a écrit :
 On 19/02/14 19:47, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
 Hello.

 I made a script to extract music from a jamendo archive, but for a
 reason I do not know, 7z does not accept the command line. I also echoed
 it, to be able to know what it tries to run, and it works fine when ran
 on command line.

 Here is the script:

 #!/bin/sh

 for i in *.zip;
 do
 artiste=`echo $i|cut -f1 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`
 album=`echo $i|cut -f2 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`
 mkdir $artiste/$album -p
 7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\ || rmdir $artiste/$album -p
 echo 7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\
 done

 With, for example, this archive:
 http://www.jamendo.com/fr/list/a69778/monument, the folders are
 correctly created, but it prints:
 Error: Incorrect command line
 7z x Shearer - Monument - a69778 --- Jamendo - MP3 VBR 192k.zip
 -oShearer/Monument

 Do someone knows what I am doing wrong?



 Maybe passing - without a recognised qualifier (after the
 $artiste/$album\) ??

 Kind regards
 
 It does not change anything.
 
 I have some progress, when I do this:
 7z x \'$i\' -o\'$artiste/$album\'
 instead of
 7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\

7z x $i -o $artiste/$album ?

I'm presuming you mean in the script (so the variants are populated).
What happens if you try this from the CLI:-
7z x Shearer - Monument - a69778 --- Jamendo - MP3 VBR 192k.zip

I'm also presuming you're running the command in the working directory
(stuff I often overlook).

 
 But the the error become there is no such archive.

Is it there?  i.e.:-
$ ls Shearer - Monument - a69778 --- Jamendo - MP3 VBR 192k.zip

I'd also try renaming it:-
$ cp Shearer - Monument - a69778 --- Jamendo - MP3 VBR 192k.zip
Shearer-Monument-a69778-Jamendo-MP3 VBR 192k.zip
and then trying again

 I wonder if the
 easier would not be to try another unarchiver...
 
 

unzip?  Though 7z is pretty good.

Kind regards.


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Re: debootstrap etch unknown key

2014-02-19 Thread Darac Marjal

On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 08:19:13PM +, Mike Fitzgerald wrote:
Hi
 
I've got a Cobalt Raq4 and am trying install etch (that's the most recent
version it will take) but when issuing:
 
root@debian:/# debootstrap --arch i386 etch /nfsroot-x86
[1]http://archive.debian.org/debian/
 
I get the following error messages:
 
I: Retrieving Release
I: Retrieving Release.gpg
I: Checking Release signature
E: Release signed by unknown key (key id B5D0C804ADB11277)
 
Any ideas what is wrong? This is my first foray into this territory

Etch, as you know, is old. The key used to sign it is now, in all
likelihood, expired. It's probably been expired so long, that it's been
cleared out of the debian-keyring package. You should probably try and
find a source that you trust that tells you what they key for Etch was
and then fetch that manually (it may still be on keyservers etc).



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Description: Digital signature

Re: Wheezy and parallel port

2014-02-19 Thread francesco scaglione

On 18 Feb 2014 à 18:13, Brian wrote:
 On Tue 18 Feb 2014 at 11:13:44 +0100, francesco scaglione wrote:
 
  On a newly installed Wheezy machine I'm desperately trying to
  configure an old HP LaserJet 6P printer connected to the parallel
  port.
 
 [Snip]
  
  But this is what I get when I launch hplip:
 
 [Snip]
 
  Enter number 0...2 for connection type (q=quit, enter=usb*) ? 2
  
  Using connection type: par
  
  error: No device selected/specified or that supports this
  functionality.
 
 Reboot with the printer connected and switched on. Then provide us with
 the information from:
 
 lsmod | grep par
 
 dmesg | grep par
 
 cat /etc/default/cups
 
 ls -l /dev/lp*
 
 ls -l /dev/parport*

Hi Brian,

thank you for your attention.

This is what I get:

root@desk:~# lsmod | grep par
parport_pc 22364  0 
parport31858  3 lp,ppdev,parport_pc
---
root@desk:~# dmesg | grep par
[0.00] Booting paravirtualized kernel on bare hardware
[0.004056] AppArmor: AppArmor disabled by boot time parameter
[0.202742] hpet0: 4 comparators, 64-bit 14.318180 MHz counter
[2.345196] PM: Hibernation image partition 8:5 present
[   16.498771] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver
---
root@desk:~# cat /etc/default/cups 
# Cups configure options

# LOAD_LP_MODULE: enable/disable to load lp parallel printer driver
# module
LOAD_LP_MODULE=yes
---
root@desk:~# ls -l /dev/lp*
ls: impossible d'accéder à /dev/lp*: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce
type
---
root@desk:~# ls -l /dev/parport*
ls: impossible d'accéder à /dev/parport*: Aucun fichier ou dossier de
ce type


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Re: Trouble replacing an LVM disk

2014-02-19 Thread st


st wrote:


Somehow, creating and adding a disk manually gives 1 PE less:


And I think I've found where the disk space went to.

root@hulk:~# pvck /dev/sdb1
  Found label on /dev/sdb1, sector 1, type=LVM2 001
  Found text metadata area: offset=4096, size=195584
root@hulk:~# pvck /dev/sde
  Found label on /dev/sde, sector 1, type=LVM2 001
  Found text metadata area: offset=4096, size=1044480 = 

It's always at least 1044480 whatevers no matter what
--metadatasize is requested.

Is there a way to force pvcreate to allocate less space
for metadata? What tool does Debian Installer use to create
PVs, anyway?

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Re: Start pacat on boot (or after xbmc)

2014-02-19 Thread Redalert Commander

Hi again,

The bad news is that no one answered my e-mail, the good news is that
I managed to solve this myself.
More below.

2014-02-17 23:53 GMT+01:00 Steven Post redalert.comman...@gmail.com:
I have a script that starts and kills pacat (pulseaudio cat) in order to
get my USB turntable to work.
It is a rather simple script, reproduced below for reference.
I want to run this script at boot, but whatever I try, it doesn't seem
to work. When started at boot (using an init script, or rc.local) the
log it produces is always pa_stream_drain(): Bad state.
When running the script manually it works perfectly.
The script is invoked with this command:
su username -l -c /path/to/vinyl.sh

This is now fixed by adding the following cron job (crontab -e)
@reboot sleep 10; /path/to/vinyl.sh

I think the issue was that pacat was started too soon (before
pulseaudio), and thus the sleep makes sure that the system is fully
operational.
If you do this yourself, you may find that 10 seconds is not enough,
since this was a pretty minimal system with a SSD.

A better approach would be to check 'ps' for the pulseaudio existence
in a loop with a sleep 1,
thus minimizing the time between full boot and starting pacat, while
still being sure it doesn't launch to soon (even on slow systems).
I'll have a go at that tomorrow.

Best regards,
Steven

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Re: 7z command works fine on command line but not in script

2014-02-19 Thread Andre Majorel

On 2014-02-19 09:47 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I made a script to extract music from a jamendo archive, but for a
 reason I do not know, 7z does not accept the command line. I also
 echoed it, to be able to know what it tries to run, and it works
 fine when ran on command line.
 
 Here is the script:
 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 for i in *.zip;
 do

You only need the semicolon if the do is on the same line as
the for, as in

  for i in *.zip; do

   artiste=`echo $i|cut -f1 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`
   album=`echo $i|cut -f2 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`

/g after an anchored regexp is meaningless (the regexps are
anchored so cannot match more than once).

   mkdir $artiste/$album -p

Putting -p after the argument is not portable (only works with
GNU getopt). -- before the argument is probably not needed
here because - is your separator but it's a good habit to
take.

  mkdir -p -- $artiste/$album

   7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\ || rmdir $artiste/$album -p

If the double inverted commas are escaped with backslashes, they
will be passed to the command. Is this really what you want ?
Don't you mean this instead ?

  7z x -o $artiste/$album $i

   echo 7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\

To see what was executed, you can use set -x.

 done

 With, for example, this archive:
 http://www.jamendo.com/fr/list/a69778/monument, the folders are
 correctly created, but it prints:
 Error: Incorrect command line
 7z x Shearer - Monument - a69778 --- Jamendo - MP3 VBR 192k.zip
 -oShearer/Monument
 
 Do someone knows what I am doing wrong?

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Re: [OT] KDM No Longer In KDE ?!?

2014-02-19 Thread Chris Bannister

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 08:48:43PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
 Yes, the problem with multiple personalities - the other ones often
 are unauthoritative.
 Also, can never be quite sure what one of those other personalities
 really means, they say the doggendest things sometimes..

10 out of 8 people suffer multiple personality disorders.

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Re: 7z command works fine on command line but not in script




Le 19.02.2014 10:53, Scott Ferguson a écrit :
Just read your last post before sending this, so this may no longer 
be

relevant... I don't know that you need to quote the variables. I use
coloured bash so it is usually obvious if I need to. P.S. without the
quotes you won't need the escapes - just quote the whole filename 
(which

may be what you are lacking).


I use colors too ( and I have no idea about the reason to disable 
colors by default in Debian... ) , but I really do not like interpreted 
languages. My opinion is that stuff written with them are messy, but at 
least, shell is handier than C++ to manage files and shell commands... 
so sometimes I try to automate small tasks with it. Maybe someday I will 
become efficient with it.


The error was that I had too many quotes, so some of them were included 
in the name, but for a reason I can not understand, echo did not 
displayed them. I spotted the problem thanks to unzip, which is far 
nicer than 7z when it comes to reporting errors to user, because it 
shows the exact filename it was trying to process when failed.
I like 7z, it have pretty nice options and can manage almost all format 
and compression methods ( I only have found 2 that it can not process, 
and one can be if the non-free package is installed, which is better 
than any other archiver I know about ) and, which is very important, it 
can detect the format alone. Pretty useful for scripts, but when it 
fails, it only says it fails, not why it did.




On 19/02/14 20:30, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:



Le 19.02.2014 09:53, Scott Ferguson a écrit :

On 19/02/14 19:47, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:

Hello.

I made a script to extract music from a jamendo archive, but for a
reason I do not know, 7z does not accept the command line. I also 
echoed
it, to be able to know what it tries to run, and it works fine 
when ran

on command line.

Here is the script:

#!/bin/sh

for i in *.zip;
do
artiste=`echo $i|cut -f1 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`
album=`echo $i|cut -f2 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`
mkdir $artiste/$album -p
7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\ || rmdir $artiste/$album 
-p

echo 7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\
done

With, for example, this archive:
http://www.jamendo.com/fr/list/a69778/monument, the folders are
correctly created, but it prints:
Error: Incorrect command line
7z x Shearer - Monument - a69778 --- Jamendo - MP3 VBR 192k.zip
-oShearer/Monument

Do someone knows what I am doing wrong?




Maybe passing - without a recognised qualifier (after the
$artiste/$album\) ??

Kind regards


It does not change anything.

I have some progress, when I do this:
7z x \'$i\' -o\'$artiste/$album\'
instead of
7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\


7z x $i -o $artiste/$album ?


The destination directory needs to be just near the option -o, 
otherwise it does not work.




I'm presuming you mean in the script (so the variants are 
populated).

What happens if you try this from the CLI:-
7z x Shearer - Monument - a69778 --- Jamendo - MP3 VBR 192k.zip


It extracts the archive into current directory ( and since jamendo just 
archive files without directory, it makes things a lot messy :) )




I'm also presuming you're running the command in the working 
directory

(stuff I often overlook).


I did run the script in the directory where the archives I want to 
process are, and when I tried the command by hand, I was in the same 
place, but it worked.






But the the error become there is no such archive.


Is it there?  i.e.:-
$ ls Shearer - Monument - a69778 --- Jamendo - MP3 VBR 192k.zip


It is.


I'd also try renaming it:-
$ cp Shearer - Monument - a69778 --- Jamendo - MP3 VBR 192k.zip
Shearer-Monument-a69778-Jamendo-MP3 VBR 192k.zip
and then trying again


I would have done this if I were not able to avoid this manipulation.




I wonder if the
easier would not be to try another unarchiver...




unzip?  Though 7z is pretty good.

Kind regards.


Yes, I used unzip to debug the script. This tool actually what it tried 
to do if and when it fails, which revealed me that I had too much tries 
to escape things. I am really not a script guy btw, and am far more 
efficient with strong typed languages, where behaviors are much more 
predictable.


Just in case, here is the full working script.
If someone have any comment to make it more secure, reliable, readable 
or whatever, I'll be happy to read it. Here, it seems it works like a 
charm ( just a little too verbose, but I could easily redirect 7z's 
outputs to /dev/null ).
Note that it updates mpd's database and... remove executable flag from 
songs, since for a reason I can not see, jamendo set it up! It also 
moves the archive out of the way, to allow running the script on next 
download without a problem ( downloading a list of archives depending on 
album+author or the id number could be an interesting feature, maybe 
I'll try to do so later, but it would be smarter to do so in another 
script

Re: 7z command works fine on command line but not in script




Le 19.02.2014 12:20, Andre Majorel a écrit :

On 2014-02-19 09:47 +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:

Hello.

I made a script to extract music from a jamendo archive, but for a
reason I do not know, 7z does not accept the command line. I also
echoed it, to be able to know what it tries to run, and it works
fine when ran on command line.

Here is the script:

#!/bin/sh

for i in *.zip;
do


You only need the semicolon if the do is on the same line as
the for, as in

  for i in *.zip; do


artiste=`echo $i|cut -f1 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`
album=`echo $i|cut -f2 -d-|sed -e 's/^ *//g' -e 's/ *$//g'`


/g after an anchored regexp is meaningless (the regexps are
anchored so cannot match more than once).


mkdir $artiste/$album -p


Putting -p after the argument is not portable (only works with
GNU getopt). -- before the argument is probably not needed
here because - is your separator but it's a good habit to
take.

  mkdir -p -- $artiste/$album


7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\ || rmdir $artiste/$album -p


If the double inverted commas are escaped with backslashes, they
will be passed to the command. Is this really what you want ?
Don't you mean this instead ?

  7z x -o $artiste/$album $i


echo 7z x \$i\ -o\$artiste/$album\


To see what was executed, you can use set -x.


done



With, for example, this archive:
http://www.jamendo.com/fr/list/a69778/monument, the folders are
correctly created, but it prints:
Error: Incorrect command line
7z x Shearer - Monument - a69778 --- Jamendo - MP3 VBR 192k.zip
-oShearer/Monument

Do someone knows what I am doing wrong?


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Thanks for the advices.


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Re: squirrelmail and smtp authentication

2014-02-19 Thread Pol Hallen


It should use whatever SASL authentication method(s) you have already setup in
Dovecot/Cyrus.  So there's nothing new that you need to add as far as
authentication credentials go.


Hi Dan! Thank you, solved

cheers!


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Problem with Sound Volume

2014-02-19 Thread Stephen P. Molnar


I have just upgraded my Debian Jessie computer to a

AMD FX 8320, 8-core 3.5 GHz, 16.0MB Cache CPU/ASUS M5 A97 R2.0 Motherboard/8 MB 
RAM. I find that the sound is very faint, even with the volume set at maximum. 
I am using the on-board sound:

computation@AbNormal:~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
 
I have always struggled with sound and have no idea as to the solution to this,to me,new problem.


Any pointers in the right direction will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Problem with Sound Volume

2014-02-19 Thread Robin

On 19 February 2014 13:14, Stephen P. Molnar s.mol...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 I have just upgraded my Debian Jessie computer to a

 AMD FX 8320, 8-core 3.5 GHz, 16.0MB Cache CPU/ASUS M5 A97 R2.0 Motherboard/8
 MB RAM. I find that the sound is very faint, even with the volume set at
 maximum. I am using the on-board sound:

 computation@AbNormal:~$ aplay -l
  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
 card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
 card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

 I have always struggled with sound and have no idea as to the solution to
 this,to me,new problem.

 Any pointers in the right direction will be much appreciated.

 Thanks in advance.

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 Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariate
 www.FoundationForChemistry.com
 (614)312-7528(c)
 Skype:  smolnar1

Have you tried alsamixer, from a terminal, to adjust volume?

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Re: Problem with Sound Volume




Le 19.02.2014 14:14, Stephen P. Molnar a écrit :

I have just upgraded my Debian Jessie computer to a

AMD FX 8320, 8-core 3.5 GHz, 16.0MB Cache CPU/ASUS M5 A97 R2.0
Motherboard/8 MB RAM. I find that the sound is very faint, even with
the volume set at maximum. I am using the on-board sound:

computation@AbNormal:~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD
Analog]
 Subdevices: 1/1
 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD
Digital]
 Subdevices: 1/1
 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

I have always struggled with sound and have no idea as to the
solution to this,to me,new problem.

Any pointers in the right direction will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.


Which software are you using to adjust volume?


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Re: Problem with Sound Volume

2014-02-19 Thread Stephen P. Molnar


On 02/19/2014 08:20 AM, Robin wrote:

On 19 February 2014 13:14, Stephen P. Molnar s.mol...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

I have just upgraded my Debian Jessie computer to a

AMD FX 8320, 8-core 3.5 GHz, 16.0MB Cache CPU/ASUS M5 A97 R2.0 Motherboard/8
MB RAM. I find that the sound is very faint, even with the volume set at
maximum. I am using the on-board sound:

computation@AbNormal:~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD Digital]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

I have always struggled with sound and have no idea as to the solution to
this,to me,new problem.

Any pointers in the right direction will be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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Foundation for Chemistry Stochastic and Multivariate
www.FoundationForChemistry.com
(614)312-7528(c)
Skype:  smolnar1

Have you tried alsamixer, from a terminal, to adjust volume?


Thanks for the replies

I am using the alsamixer, and have tried to adjust the volume with it 
running in a terminal and from the icon on the task bar.  Same result - 
very faint sound.


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Re: debootstrap etch unknown key

2014-02-19 Thread Ron Leach


On 19/02/2014 09:56, Darac Marjal wrote:

You should probably try and
find a source that you trust that tells you what they key for Etch was
and then fetch that manually (it may still be on keyservers etc).



I still have a box in the corner running Etch.  I had a quick look for 
what it thinks is the Debian signing key, but I couldn't find it.  I'd 
installed from CDs I'd downloaded from the Debian download site, 
probably sometime during 2007/2008.  If you could suggest where I 
might check, I could tell the OP what this installation believes the 
key ID to be.  Then we could check the keyservers, and we'd both be 
able to see if this key is there (something I would be interested to 
know, also).


I still have the discs I downloaded.

regards, Ron


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Re: systemd: some more questions

Tom H writes:

It took me a bit of time to gather the informations I needed. I can bet that
this did not disturb you.

The good  thing (at least  for me :))  is that systemd  + systemd-sysv
make the new system a  drop-in replacement. Sometimes other issues are
more important that boot speed.

   /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules

   Also, Debian patches udev to only enable the new naming scheme
   when booting with net.ifnames=1.

I asked Marco D'Itri about the naming of the network cards. He told me
he's unsure  they'll have the time  to maintain the old  naming, since
Red Hat does not want to mantain it.

Therefore if you succeed to upgrade to a new distribution with
dist-upgrade you are safe. If you reinstall / and /usr or migrate
something you wrote for previous versions to new installation, you
have to deal with the naming change.

   (AFAIK this has nothing at all to do with systemd, other than udev
   sharing its git repository and a certian amount of FUD possibly going on.)

AFAIK udev is part of systemd

  Can you guarantee that Debian won't adopt =1 by default by the time
  jessie freezes?

It's C code... :) :) :) :) Not likely to change from 0 to 1 ... :)

  Can you guarantee that people won't keep on saying systemd/udev are
  gping to break your networking becuase they're going to change your
  nic names?

Changing nic names could  break network scripts, all the scripts that
assume that the network interfaces are named in a certain way.

You have none  of them? Good, you  can write relax   enjoy for this
part of your migration plan. Otherwise you have to plan a fix for this.

Incidentally it breaks the script I  wrote for myself for dealing with
different  fixed-network  configuration  in  my work  laptop  :),  but
nothing some line  of shell scripting and Emacs Lisp  can't fix almost
automatically.

One laptop is a nuisance, several tens of server is another issue.

That's for what could/will happen.

As for my personal opinion, the change of the network names by Red Hat
is a case of unnecessary ibiemmitis and the Debian decision to move to
systemd, at least this quickly, is bad, not this bad as I feared. Glad
for being  partially wrong on  this issue,  Mr. Short S.  Manager will
think that  is good  because Red Hat  did the same  and will  not stop
Random J. Hacker to use Debian.


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Debian speech recognition - end user information /or forus

2014-02-19 Thread Richard Owlett


I want essentially a note taking tool.
NO interest in voice activated control.

A brief search indicated voice recognition is an active project 
under Debian accessibility. What I found was developer oriented. 
I'm looking for fairly basic information aimed at prospective user.


I've casually followed speech recognition since the 70's, though 
have never actually used it.


The goals of CMU Sphinx far exceed how I'd actually use it. [E.G. 
I don't need speaker independence, continuous recognition, nor 
real time. I'm not sure if large vocabulary would be a 
requirement.]


Initially I intend to use Wheezy on a Lenovo R61 Thinkpad with a 
yet to be specified USB input device. The laptop will not be 
running any other application while voice recognition is being used.


Pointers please. Thank you.




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sound games-Pulse Audio Volume control- Defaults- maybe SOLVED..

2014-02-19 Thread Paul Cartwright

I have been installing some games from the humble bundle. They work for
linux, but no sound. The problem is, with Pulse-audio, for each app or
game that needs sound I normally have to start the Pulse Audio Sound App
and change the default for output to sb1040 from Built-in Audio Analog.
In the games, I can't do that, so I get no sound. Any suggestions??

ah, I think I found the answer..There is a button with a green check
mark for each audio device, and the default was for the built-in audio (
which doesn't output any sound. Once I clicked the  default to the
sb1040 and started a game, I had sound!


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Re: debootstrap etch unknown key

2014-02-19 Thread Dan Purgert

On 19/02/2014 09:15, Ron Leach wrote:
 On 19/02/2014 09:56, Darac Marjal wrote:
 You should probably try and
 find a source that you trust that tells you what they key for Etch was
 and then fetch that manually (it may still be on keyservers etc).

 
 I still have a box in the corner running Etch.  I had a quick look for 
 what it thinks is the Debian signing key, but I couldn't find it.  I'd 
 installed from CDs I'd downloaded from the Debian download site, 
 probably sometime during 2007/2008.  If you could suggest where I 
 might check, I could tell the OP what this installation believes the 
 key ID to be.  Then we could check the keyservers, and we'd both be 
 able to see if this key is there (something I would be interested to 
 know, also).
 
 I still have the discs I downloaded.
 
 regards, Ron
 
 

Tried gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys B5D0C804ADB11277 and it pulled
down the Etch Stable Release Key debian-rele...@lists.debian.org key.

$ gpg --fingerprint ADB11277
pub   1024D/ADB11277 2006-09-17
  Key fingerprint = 7EA3 91D7 2477 203B 58C0  4FBC B5D0 C804 ADB1 1277
uid  Etch Stable Release Key debian-rele...@lists.debian.org

Should be what you're looking for.

-Dan


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Re: Disk heads won't park

2014-02-19 Thread Stefan Monnier

 ID#4 Start_Stop_Count and/or ID#193 Load_Cycle_Count.
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.#Known_ATA_S.M.A.R.T._attributes
 This will show you if a drive does spin up and down.

Start_Stop_Count should indeed tell you how many times the disk spun
updown.

OTOH Load_Cycle_Count indicates something which IIUC has nothing to do
with disk spin, but with something like head parking.


Stefan


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Re: mount as read/write on demand

2014-02-19 Thread Efraim Flashner

On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 15:47:19 +0100
Erwan David er...@rail.eu.org wrote:

 Le 18/02/2014 15:42, binary dreamer a écrit :
  Hello everyone.
   
   
  I am running some services in a remote headless system. the system
  runs debian 6.
  I would like the system to be read only by default. in case of an
  update/upgrade I could run in read/write to process the job.
  the filesystem is ext2 and it runs in a cf card.
   
  I have seen voyage Linux that has this functionality but it misses
  kernel headers. It is a real pain to compile the headers in this
  underpowered box.
   
  I would like to ask if someone could help me create a system
  read/write on demand.
   
   
  Thanks in advance.
   
   
 
 mount -o remount,rw mount point should do the trick (and mount -o
 remount,ro after use)
 
 

and change the listing in /etc/fstab from rw to ro


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Re: reboot/halt/shutdown does nothing

2014-02-19 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom


Zhang Weiwu wrote:
Using Debian 6.0. reboot/halt/shutdown does nothing except announcing 
the shutdown and halt the ssh session that issued the command.



snip
I would install systemd and see what that would do.

Hugo


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[OT] the course on the brain was:Re: Best way to show HTML5/mp4 in D7 browser?

2014-02-19 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Wednesday 19 February 2014 04:04:40 Bob Bernstein wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Feb 2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  I have just finished one on the brain.

 Now, and I have a reason for asking this, after taking that
 brain course, were you left feeling more, or less,
 comfortable with your brain, such as it is now?

More optimistic in terms of understanding and taking charge myself.  
But I also found it fascinating.  A lot of the material is stuff you 
look for yourself on the internet, so you can chose the angle and 
level.  The basic stuff is not really contoversial.  This is a 
sulcus.  This is a lobe.  etc. 

Lisi 


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Re: reboot/halt/shutdown does nothing

2014-02-19 Thread Erick Ocrospoma

Have you tried stopping manually all service you have there? Often
happens to me this but it's do to some process that is locked by the
kernel, and I'm talking about a debian box that uses NFS and Apache,
so check that first. If it's locked by kernel you can't event kill the
process, it needs to free itself  and takes a lot of time. (unless you
do a forced restart with the reset button :-P)

On the other hand, if it's hanging some process/daemon you could see
that by searching on top/hop/ps, I would look carefully for any zombie
process (+Z, or +D state too).

Hope this helps!

On 19 February 2014 11:32, Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com wrote:
 Zhang Weiwu wrote:

 Using Debian 6.0. reboot/halt/shutdown does nothing except announcing the
 shutdown and halt the ssh session that issued the command.

 snip
 I would install systemd and see what that would do.

 Hugo



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Deb 7.4 Mouse Worked Live Not After Install

2014-02-19 Thread Phil newcombe


Hi all. Back trying Debian again after many years.

Am having hard time with mouse pointer in latest linuxes. After trying 
about 7 distros on my machine the Deb 7.4 live CD was the only one that 
worked. But then after installation the mouse pointer no longer responds 
- just sits in the middle of the screen not moving (like with many of 
the other distros - but at least it worked live). Something's happening 
because random icons and buttons highlight as I try to move the mouse 
around and the buttons work.


I tried firing it up in rescue mode and got the following, repeating 
over and over (I'm not sure which line would be the actual start of the 
block):


input: PixArt USB Optical Mouse as 
/devices/pci:00/:00:1d.1/usb6/6-2/6-2:1.0/input/inputnn
generic-usb 0003:093a:2510.000E: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.11 Mouse 
[PixArt USB OPtical Mouse on usb-:00:1d.1-2/input0

usb 6-2: USB disconnect, device number n
usb 6-2: new low-speed USB device number n+1 using uhci_hcd
usb 6-2: New USB device found, id Vendor=093a, id Product=2510
usb 6-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, Serial Number=0
usb 6-2: Product: USB Optical Mouse
usb 6-2: Manufacturer: PixArt

(Some of the formatting may be a little off as I copied it by hand.)
Wherever there are  the item inside increments each time the block 
repeats.


Any ideas what I can do about it and why would it work perfectly in 
'live' mode but not after install?


TIA.

Re: Problem with Sound Volume



On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 08:29 -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:
 I am using the alsamixer, and have tried to adjust the volume with it
 running in a terminal and from the icon on the task bar.  Same result
 - very faint sound.

Since it's unlikely that an onboard sound device provides selectable
nominal levels, it likely is related to the impedance.


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Re: systemd: some more questions

On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 15:01 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
 AFAIK udev is part of systemd

It was merged by upstream a long, long time ago.

 Semi-OT 
From: Michael Banck
Cc:debian-...@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Init system for non-Linux ports
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:56:30 +0100

Hi,

On Sat, Feb 15, 2014 at 02:47:14PM +, Robert Millan wrote:
 On 14/02/2014 18:46, Steven Chamberlain wrote:
  Well, we have an announcement today from Canonical - AIUI Upstart will
  be discontinued after Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and they will switch to systemd:
  http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316

 I'm not familiar with Ubuntu politics. Is everyone in line with that decision?

About upstart as default, my understanding is that (i) defunding upstart
development will likely make that question moot cause the Ubuntu
community is very probably not interested in putting up the work now
that everybody else switches, (ii) I saw statements from other technical
board members before Mark's announcement that dropping upstart as
default is likely, now that Debian is moving to systemd for the Linux
ports.

The more interesting question is whether upstart will be continued as a
community project and/or supported as an alternative in Debian/Ubuntu.
Not sure about that.

Michael

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Re: Problem with Sound Volume

2014-02-19 Thread Patrick Bartek

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:

 I have just upgraded my Debian Jessie computer to a
 
 AMD FX 8320, 8-core 3.5 GHz, 16.0MB Cache CPU/ASUS M5 A97 R2.0
 Motherboard/8 MB RAM. I find that the sound is very faint, even with
 the volume set at maximum. I am using the on-board sound:
 
 computation@AbNormal:~$ aplay -l
  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
 card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
 card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD
 Digital] Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
   
 I have always struggled with sound and have no idea as to the
 solution to this,to me,new problem.
 
 Any pointers in the right direction will be much appreciated.

How did you get Debian on the new machine?  Fresh install?  Or just
switch the hard drive over?

Try the Debian LiveCD and see if the sound works properly  If it does,
then your problem is probably software or configuration.

What sound system are you running ALSA, OSS, Pulseaudio, a
combination, etc., etc?

Check to see if the correct driver is being used for your sound
card/chip.

B


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Re: tor-arm warning

2014-02-19 Thread Ron Leach


On 19/02/2014 00:18, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

Here is my .ssh/config line:
LocalForward localhost:9051 127.0.0.1:9051



I thought the LocalForward syntax differed slightly:

LocalForward Localhost:Port RemoteHost:Port

(if I've understood man ssh_config)

so maybe

LocalForward 127.0.0.1:9051 YourRemoteTORRelayHost:9051

May I pass on a security concern?  Again, if I understand the man 
pages correctly, anyone with access to your machine can use this 
tunnel to reach your TOR relay on port 9051.  Using 127.0.0.1 means 
that 'only' local users can do this, but this would include everyone 
with a login on your machine (and anyone who could sit in your chair 
during lunch if you hadn't logged out).


regards, Ron


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Re: Problem with Sound Volume

2014-02-19 Thread Stephen P. Molnar


On 02/19/2014 01:08 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:

On Wed, 19 Feb 2014, Stephen P. Molnar wrote:


I have just upgraded my Debian Jessie computer to a

AMD FX 8320, 8-core 3.5 GHz, 16.0MB Cache CPU/ASUS M5 A97 R2.0
Motherboard/8 MB RAM. I find that the sound is very faint, even with
the volume set at maximum. I am using the on-board sound:

computation@AbNormal:~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC887-VD Analog [ALC887-VD Analog]
Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC887-VD Digital [ALC887-VD
Digital] Subdevices: 1/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
   
I have always struggled with sound and have no idea as to the

solution to this,to me,new problem.

Any pointers in the right direction will be much appreciated.

How did you get Debian on the new machine?  Fresh install?  Or just
switch the hard drive over?

Try the Debian LiveCD and see if the sound works properly  If it does,
then your problem is probably software or configuration.

What sound system are you running ALSA, OSS, Pulseaudio, a
combination, etc., etc?

Check to see if the correct driver is being used for your sound
card/chip.

B



Thanks for the reply.

I moved the two HD's to the new platform.  I'm using ALSA.

How do I go about checking the sound driver?

I'll try the live cd and see what happens, thanks for the suggestion.

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Re: video compression?

2014-02-19 Thread Thomas H. George

Thanks for all the helpful comment.

After consideration I understand compression will never be a solution
for even a moderate size clip. Since I have a domain name I will host a
website and upload the clips to the site for my friends to view.


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Re: Disk heads won't park

2014-02-19 Thread Nuno Magalhães

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Stefan Monnier
monn...@iro.umontreal.ca wrote:
 ID#4 Start_Stop_Count and/or ID#193 Load_Cycle_Count.
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.#Known_ATA_S.M.A.R.T._attributes
 This will show you if a drive does spin up and down.

 Start_Stop_Count should indeed tell you how many times the disk spun
 updown.

 OTOH Load_Cycle_Count indicates something which IIUC has nothing to do
 with disk spin, but with something like head parking.


Like i said, There were no changes in Start_Stop_Count or Load_Cycle_Count. The
value that stands out (to me) is Head_Flying_Hours, which means Time
spent during the positioning of the drive head.

The noise i hear is the heads parking, not the disk spinning.


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Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?

2014-02-19 Thread Richard Owlett


Curt wrote:

On 2014-02-18, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:


Like beauty, minor is in the eye of the beholder ;/
That is _exactly_ the sticking point causing to say clean and
very peculiar.


man apt-secure

will tell you how to provide archive signatures in an archive under
your maintenance

which would obviate the sticking point, if I'm understanding you
correctly.



You are close.

I had followed the instructions given by Zenaan Harkness in
http://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSSWWR0KELhhVhq85mKCw15jRLxAkO+5=-fujrnsy0c...@mail.gmail.com
to create a minimal *UNSIGNED* local repo. man apt-secure hints 
I should be able to sign it, but I'll have to do more reading.



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Re: Debian repository available on USB flash rather than CD/DVD sets?

2014-02-19 Thread Richard Owlett


Zenaan Harkness wrote:

On 2/17/14, Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:

I've been purchasing the multiple DVD sets as I am limited to a
dial-up connection.


It is great to support suppliers who service our libre community markets!



As 64GB flash drives are readily available I would find it
convenient to have a complete distro on a single device.


Did you fail with the instructions I have posted a couple of times now?



If you are referring to your message
http://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSSWWR0KELhhVhq85mKCw15jRLxAkO+5=-fujrnsy0c...@mail.gmail.com

That worked in the manner you intended.

My desires are evolving - or at least mutating.


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Re: Problem with Sound Volume

Perhaps it's hardware related and not software related.

Do you connect by line outs to amp ins or do you use a headphone
directly connected to the mobos output or are you using any digital
interface or something else?

The mobos today might use the same sound chips and internal amps as the
vendors use for mobile phones, tablet PCs etc., if so, then by EU
Regulation and perhaps for non-EU countries too, the maximal output
level is limited. If you connect a good consumer or professional
headphone with e.g. 600 Ohms, the output will be silent, you need a
headphone that has less than 80 Ohms and even then the sound still will
be not as loud, as many people want it.




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Re: systemd: some more questions

2014-02-19 Thread Chris Bannister

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 06:34:35PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 15:01 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
  AFAIK udev is part of systemd
 
 It was merged by upstream a long, long time ago.

Have you got any proof? 

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Re: systemd: some more questions

2014-02-19 Thread Chris Bannister


[You snipped the attribution!]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 03:01:56PM +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
(AFAIK this has nothing at all to do with systemd, other than udev
sharing its git repository and a certian amount of FUD possibly going 
 on.)
 
 AFAIK udev is part of systemd

That looks like FUD. Please don't spread it. Things are bad enough
already. 

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Re: Start pacat on boot (or after xbmc) [OT]

2014-02-19 Thread Paul E Condon

On 20140219_115052, Redalert Commander wrote:
 Hi again,
 
 The bad news is that no one answered my e-mail, the good news is that
 I managed to solve this myself.
 More below.
 
 2014-02-17 23:53 GMT+01:00 Steven Post redalert.comman...@gmail.com:
  I have a script that starts and kills pacat (pulseaudio cat) in order to
  get my USB turntable to work.
  It is a rather simple script, reproduced below for reference.
  I want to run this script at boot, but whatever I try, it doesn't seem
  to work. When started at boot (using an init script, or rc.local) the
  log it produces is always pa_stream_drain(): Bad state.
  When running the script manually it works perfectly.
  The script is invoked with this command:
  su username -l -c /path/to/vinyl.sh
 
 This is now fixed by adding the following cron job (crontab -e)
 @reboot sleep 10; /path/to/vinyl.sh
 
 I think the issue was that pacat was started too soon (before
 pulseaudio), and thus the sleep makes sure that the system is fully
 operational.
 If you do this yourself, you may find that 10 seconds is not enough,
 since this was a pretty minimal system with a SSD.
 
 A better approach would be to check 'ps' for the pulseaudio existence
 in a loop with a sleep 1,
 thus minimizing the time between full boot and starting pacat, while
 still being sure it doesn't launch to soon (even on slow systems).
 I'll have a go at that tomorrow.
 
 Best regards,
 Steven

This problem might be a good use-case for the benefits of systemd ;-)
But caution, I don't really understand systemd very well yet.

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Re: Debian speech recognition - end user information /or forus

On 20/02/14 01:20, Richard Owlett wrote:
 I want essentially a note taking tool.

Assuming you mean speech to text

 NO interest in voice activated control.
 
 A brief search indicated voice recognition is an active project under
 Debian accessibility. What I found was developer oriented. I'm looking
 for fairly basic information aimed at prospective user.

Good luck - it's a complex subject developed by need to scratch, which
means that it's unlikely simple dictation is the primary development
objective.

 
 I've casually followed speech recognition since the 70's, though have
 never actually used it.
 
 The goals of CMU Sphinx far exceed how I'd actually use it. [E.G. I
 don't need speaker independence, continuous recognition, nor real time.

Most of those capabilities are necessary in order to recognise words.

 I'm not sure if large vocabulary would be a requirement.]
 
 Initially I intend to use Wheezy on a Lenovo R61 Thinkpad with a yet to
 be specified USB input device. The laptop will not be running any other
 application while voice recognition is being used.
 
 Pointers please. Thank you.
 
 
 
 

AFAIK Simon is the only real candidate for your stated requirements.
http://grasch.net/node/19
Note that it uses CMU Sphinx so I guess your stuck with something that
isn't stripped down to suit your (perceived?) requirements. Still
undergoing development and yet to match a commercial product I use in WINE.
http://grasch.net/projects

OS speech to text is something I'm interested in, so I'd appreciate any
new information you discover.

Kind regards


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Re: systemd: some more questions

I suggest you to contact undeveloped maintainer and edit the systems page on 
Wikipedia?

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 On 19/feb/2014, at 21:04, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:
 
 
 [You snipped the attribution!]
 
 On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 03:01:56PM +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
 (AFAIK this has nothing at all to do with systemd, other than udev
 sharing its git repository and a certian amount of FUD possibly going on.)
 
 AFAIK udev is part of systemd
 
 That looks like FUD. Please don't spread it. Things are bad enough
 already. 
 
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Re: systemd: some more questions

On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 21:52 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
 I suggest you to contact undeveloped maintainer and edit the systems
 page on Wikipedia?

Chris is mistaken. Unfortunately my mails seldom come through the list.

 Forwarded Message 
From: Ralf Mardorf
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: systemd: some more questions
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:07:28 +0100
Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 

The MUA I'm using and/or my provider is/are crap. My mails often don't
reach the recipients.

 Forwarded Message 
From: Ralf Mardorf
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: systemd: some more questions
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:42:41 +0100
Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 

On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 09:05 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 06:34:35PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 15:01 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
   AFAIK udev is part of systemd

  It was merged by upstream a long, long time ago.

 Have you got any proof?

It happened around two years ago.

systemd-tools replaces udev
2012-06-01 - Dave Reisner
systemd and udev have been merged upstream. We will still ship them in
separate packages. However, in order to keep things simple, udev will
now be part of a package called systemd-tools. This package contains
several other standalone tools which can be used without systemd. The
astute reader will note that this also means the entirety of systemd is
available in the core repository.

Please replace udev with systemd-tools when prompted. If you upgrade the
linux package at the same time, you may see an error during initramfs
creation that the udev hook is not found. After the upgrade completes,
please rerun 'mkinitcpio -p linux' to ensure that a bootable image is
created for the newly installed kernel. -
https://www.archlinux.org/news/systemd-tools-replaces-udev/

Also since a long, long time ago, it's not separated for Arch anymore.

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi systemd-tools
error: package 'systemd-tools' was not found
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi systemd | grep Provides
Provides   : libsystemd=208  nss-myhostname  systemd-tools=208
udev=208  libgudev-1.0.so=0-64  libsystemd-daemon.so=0-64
libsystemd-id128.so=0-64  libsystemd-journal.so=0-64
libsystemd-login.so=0-64  libudev.so=1-64

Perhaps you should check the source code from upstream.

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep source /var/abs/core/systemd/PKGBUILD 
source=(http://www.freedesktop.org/software/$pkgname/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.xz;

IOW http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/ ,resp. the current
version http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/systemd-208.tar.xz

Take a look at /systemd-208/units/ there you'll find udev.conf, udev.h
and many other udev related files.

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Re: systemd: some more questions

On 20/02/14 07:52, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
I suggest you to contact undeveloped maintainer and edit the systems page on
Wikipedia?

Not sure if you meant the systems i.e. udev, or systemd. I suspect you
mean the udev page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udev

The primary developer who works on both udev and systemd is Kay Sievers
(Red Hat). Much of udev is the work of Greg Kroah-Hartman (Linux
Foundation) and Dan Stekloff (from dodgy memory he was with IBM, not
sure if he still is). So you can reasonably presume udev is not a RedHat
controlled project. Likewise systemd.

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On 19/feb/2014, at 21:04, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote:

[You snipped the attribution!]

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 03:01:56PM +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
(AFAIK this has nothing at all to do with systemd, other than udev
sharing its git repository and a certian amount of FUD possibly going on.)

AFAIK udev is part of systemd

April 2012, udev's source tree was merged into systemd
e.g.
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=19c5f19d69bb5f520fa7213239490c55de06d99d

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.hotplug.devel/17392
(partial quote, emphasis mine)
We are about to merge the udev sources into the systemd source tree.
After that, the next version of systemd will continue with udev’s
version numbering, i.e. jump immediately from 45 to 184.

After udev is merged into the systemd tree you can still build it for
usage *outside of systemd systems*, and we will support these builds
officially.

[*1.]http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/libudev/
http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/hotplug/udev.git/

[*2.]http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/
ssh://git.freedesktop.org/git/systemd/systemd

Hope this clarifies things a little.

snipped

Kind regards

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