Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 12:58:50 +, Curt wrote:

 On 2015-02-25, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I didn't understand him so to say. :-/  I thought that he said that he 
  couldn't print duplex at all at the moment.  If it isn't in the PPD then 
  that 
  explains it.
 
  Lisi
 
 Gene said 
 
  No change, both evince and okular show duplex as disabled. *I did set it
  in localhost:631/printers/printer/set defaults.  No problem there.  It
  will print a cups test page ok*, and the colors look ok in the wheel
  there.  But no other app can detect that it is duplex capable.

evince and okular show duplex as not available, not as disabled.

The cups test page is a single page. When duplex is on on my printer
the sheet is pulled back in after one side is printed. Then it is
ejected. The other side is blank of course.


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:10:05 Brian wrote:
 On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 11:20:20 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 10:11:51 Curt wrote:
   On 2015-02-25, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
CUPS has not provided information about them them because it gets its
information from the Duplex option in the PPD file. The brother PPD
does not provide such an option. There is no bug.
  
   Then I can't understand why Gene said he could print a test page in
   duplex using the brother PPD after setting the duplex option as a
   default in the web interface.
 
  I didn't understand him so to say. :-/  I thought that he said that he
  couldn't print duplex at all at the moment.  If it isn't in the PPD then
  that explains it.

 The facility to print duplex *is* in the PPD. Displaying this information
 in the GTK and Qt print dialogues is a different matter.

I'm lost now.

CUPS has not provided information about them them because it gets its
information from the Duplex option in the PPD file. The brother PPD
does not provide such an option.

 The facility to print duplex *is* in the PPD.

Both from you.  Could you explain?

Lisi


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:58:50 Curt wrote:
 On 2015-02-25, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  I didn't understand him so to say. :-/  I thought that he said that he
  couldn't print duplex at all at the moment.  If it isn't in the PPD then
  that explains it.
 
  Lisi

 Gene said

  No change, both evince and okular show duplex as disabled. *I did set it
  in localhost:631/printers/printer/set defaults.  No problem there.  It
  will print a cups test page ok*, and the colors look ok in the wheel
  there.  But no other app can detect that it is duplex capable.

Thanks, Curt.  But the CUPS test page is not duplex, is it?

Lisi


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Re: Lenovo 050 desktop crashing

2015-02-25 Thread Curt
On 2015-02-25, Sharon Kimble boudic...@skimble.plus.com wrote:

 Nope, its a Lenovo 050 Desktop from ebuyer


Lenovo E50.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 03:30:06 Curt wrote:
 On 2015-02-24, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  Went around the bush again, turned it off in cups default, called up
  iceweasals print menu and again was denied duplex functions.

 There's also, I believe, a kde specific printer settings tool (of which
 I don't know the name) whose defaults might be conflicting with or
 overriding your duplex desires, although why the option would be
 greyed-out in various pdf viewers escapes me.

Because THIS Brother supplied ppd has the characters BR prepended to every 
variable name in the duplex control stanza?  You can edit the BR's out of the 
ppd, restart cups, and these option ARE then visible and settable in the 
print options dialogs.  But then of course without the BR in the option 
string, the printer ignores it as just so much noise?  Somehow I think this 
is the real problem.

One other attempt:  I just set the emulation to be fixed at HP LaserJet, but 
cups has about 15,000 such HP drivers.  I could finish wearing out the 
printer by the time I found the right version. :( :(

From a printout of its settings, non-duplexed because that was turned off but 
I just turned it back on, the HP LaserJet section looks like this:
-Font  No.  :IO59
-Font Pitch :10.00
-Symbol Set :PC-8
-Auto LF:Off
-Auto CR:Off
-Auto WRAP  :Off
-Left Margin:0
-Right Margin   :80
-Top Margin :0.50
-Bottom Margin  :0.50
-Lines  :60

Under the Active Services, which is under the network settings printout on 
page 3, I see this list of services
BRN001BA9E3811F
BINARY_P1
TEXT_P1
POSTSCRIPT_P1
PCL_P1
BRN001BA9E3811F_AT

I get the impression that it loses capabilities when emulating the LaserJet.

But from this, can a suggested driver even be determined?  In which case, 
please suggest. 

I did find a driver that almost works, but the color output has a quite 
pronounced magenta overcast to it.  And every  job sent logs an error to the 
cups screen: Unable to write data: broken pipe

So the foomatic LaserJet hp4550 pxlcolor is not the right one, duplex works, 
but the color are nasty.  I have tried several other familys of the HP 
LaserJet line, but I generally lose the duplex when I do.  I'll see if I can 
find the reservoir for all the ppd's and do a little grepping to find those 
with duplexing functions.  A filter the cups configuration menu is severely 
lacking in.  Likewise, all these other drivers have no color tweaking 
facilities, something the brother drivers can do for every conceivable color 
combination.

Later, after some coffee has been absorbed.  Up way too darned early for a 
retired old fart.

I have not rx'd any replies from bugs.debian.org, is it not setup to do that 
automatically?

Thanks all.
Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Curt
On 2015-02-25, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 I didn't understand him so to say. :-/  I thought that he said that he 
 couldn't print duplex at all at the moment.  If it isn't in the PPD then that 
 explains it.

 Lisi



Gene said 

 No change, both evince and okular show duplex as disabled. *I did set it
 in localhost:631/printers/printer/set defaults.  No problem there.  It
 will print a cups test page ok*, and the colors look ok in the wheel
 there.  But no other app can detect that it is duplex capable.


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Curt
On 2015-02-25, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 Gene said

  No change, both evince and okular show duplex as disabled. *I did set it
  in localhost:631/printers/printer/set defaults.  No problem there.  It
  will print a cups test page ok*, and the colors look ok in the wheel
  there.  But no other app can detect that it is duplex capable.

 Thanks, Curt.  But the CUPS test page is not duplex, is it?

 Lisi



Well, I labored under the assumption that if you set duplex as a default
in the CUPS web interface and then print a test page with some
duplex-amenable material, you get a duplex test page, and I thought
that's exactly what Gene was saying above.  If it wasn't, why say
anything about a test page that prints a single-sided page, because
we've known the printer could do that from the very beginning (88
pages etc...)?  


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Re: Lenovo 050 desktop crashing

2015-02-25 Thread Sharon Kimble
Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com writes:

 On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, Sharon Kimble wrote:

 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com writes:
 
  On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, Sharon Kimble wrote:
 
  I have just bought a new computer,a Lenovo 050 desktop. Its working
 
  I couldn't find an 050 model.  Did you mean H50?
 
 Nope, its a Lenovo 050 Desktop from ebuyer

http://www.ebuyer.com/658956-lenovo-e50-desktop-pc-90bx0018uk

 Couldn't find that model listed anywhere.  Even searched ebuyer's site.
 Nothing. Just trying to get the specs on it.  Curious.  No matter as it
 seems installing watchdog solved your problem.  Although, why watchdog
 wasn't installed in the first place or why it needed to be installed at
 all. ???  It's not on my Wheezy system, and I have no problems.  Of
 course, my current system is 1 to 8 years old depending on which
 part. ;-)

It seems that something was calling watchdog, which wasn't
installed, so it seems that everything froze because of it. 

 
  reasonably okay except for the occasional crashes. For instance,
  I've had it a fortnight now and its longest uptime has been just
  over 3 days, even though its on all the time!
 
  What OS did it come with Windows 7 or 8?  Did the machine crash when
  running Windows?  If yes, you could have a hardware problem.  If no,
  then it's probably a Linux problem.
 
 8.1, which was very soon removed to install wheezy to upgrade to
 jessie. 
 
  You seemed to have installed Jessie 32-bit based on your other
  posting -- installed watchedog . . . i386.
 
  What version of Jessie?  It's at RC1 as of 25 Jan.
 
 It was installed on 10th February, a netinstall of wheezy. Then
 upgraded to jessie on the same day.
 
  Dual boot or did you wipe out Windows?
 
  GNOME3 desktop?
 
 Fluxbox, I went into gnome once whilst I installed fluxbox, and
 there I remain.

 When GNOME went to 3, I stopped using GNOME.  It caused more problems
 than it was worth. Even installing another environment or just
 using a window manager, it still got in the way.  Ultimately, when I
 upgraded to Debian Wheezy (from Fedora 12) I did a netinstall, Basic
 System.  Added what I wanted -- X, etc. -- service by service,
 app by app.

 You should be able to choose which environment or window manager you
 want on the login page.  If you set Fluxbox as the Default, system
 should boot to it the next time and every time until you change it.

  
 
  Here's what I'd do.  Start over from zero.  You could have a
  corrupted install.  Wipe out your current Jessie.  Download and
  install the most current 64-bit version. Do a checksum on the
  download itself and the CD or DVD after burning.  Depending on your
  Internet connection, a netinstall CD will get you an up-to-date
  system when the install is completed.
 
 Everything is working okay, that crashing was the only problem, so
 thanks, but I'm staying with it as it is. The setup was missing
 watchdog which is now installed. But it is a good idea to get a
 new 64-bit version, my install disk was burnt on 28 May 2013 so it
 does need to be replaced. 

 You said you upgraded from Wheezy.  When or if, you reinstall Jessie,
 just get the latest version and do a clean install.  I've never done a
 distribution upgrade that didn't require fixing in some way or other.
 Clean installs are the least problematical.

Good advice, which I'm going to follow.

Thanks
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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 04:13:26 Curt wrote:
 On 2015-02-25, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote:
  There's also, I believe, a kde specific printer settings tool (of which
  I don't know the name) whose defaults might be conflicting with or
  overriding your duplex desires, although why the option would be
  greyed-out in various pdf viewers escapes me.

 Maybe it's 'system-config-printer-kde'.

That, on this system, is a subdir with a bunch of .py stuff in it.

And I find it a bit interesting that despite there being a bit over half a 
megabyte of python stuff in that directory, this command returns a null.

gene@coyote:/usr/share/kde4/apps/system-config-printer-kde$ grep -i duplex * 

OTOH, the old install is similarly bereft of any results in that directory, 
and it worked just fine.  So if I run from the system menu, printing, I get 
a slightly different interface gui, but attempts to look at the printer 
profile in question reports an error '(unknown IPP tag)' has an unknown value 
and cannot be edited (presumably because I have not groked a way to run it 
from the menu item named printing with root privileges.

But when I have figured it out, I get the same error, when I attempt to commit 
a change in the print quality, I am presented with the same error BUT it does 
appear to get changed.

Clicking on closing the error does go ahead and display all the values as set 
by the web page localhost:631.

I finally figure out how to run that as  root, and get the same IPP resolution 
tag error as when I run it as me.

Synopsis so far:  If I want good color, it appears I have to use the brother 
drivers, but when I do, NO system printing facility can see or use the 
printers duplexing ability, the printer options page of everything that has a 
print in the file menu, call up a similar function selection interface that 
all ghosts out, and it will not use it regardless of the printers own menu 
settings under the tray menu.

Filing a bug seems to go to a black hole, made difficult to file by the 
insistence of a name of a package to file the bug against when I have no 
damned clue where or why its getting lost.

Which is right back at square one.  So how the heck do I convince the bug 
triage people into actually looking at this endless, nobody has more than a 
tentative clue/suggestion, which I have checked out in every case where I 
understood the lingo, without any resolution to the problem that wheezy has, 
but which ubuntu-10.04.4 LTS never had since I bought this printer around 2 
years ago.  And since we've been chasing our collective tailks for what, 10 
days now, its obviously not going to get fixed until the debian bug fixers 
who deal with printing actually read this thread.  bugs.debian.org is, as far 
as being able to describe the error, miserably lacking because the only place 
you can try is in the ending comments, which apparently aren't being read.

No reply in about 24 hours.  What sort of a time frame should I expect?

Thanks  Cheers Curt, Gene Heskett
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Re: correctio - Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:44:35 Bret Busby wrote:
 On 25/02/2015, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:21:42 Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:10:24 Gene Heskett wrote:
   Because that paper clip hole cannot be found on the face of the
   blackfaced dvd drive when the tower is out of the direct light under
   the
   next table over and invisible even with 300 equ watts of ccfl lighting
   on
   the ceiling turned on? This is the real world.
 
  That's why I have torch on my desk.  :-)
 
  That's why I have _A_ torch on my desk.  :-)

 Not that is why I have torched my desk ? {:~{ ) }

It's not the desk's fault. ;-)

Lisi


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 11:20:20 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:

 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 10:11:51 Curt wrote:
  On 2015-02-25, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
   CUPS has not provided information about them them because it gets its
   information from the Duplex option in the PPD file. The brother PPD does
   not provide such an option. There is no bug.
 
  Then I can't understand why Gene said he could print a test page in
  duplex using the brother PPD after setting the duplex option as a
  default in the web interface.
 
 I didn't understand him so to say. :-/  I thought that he said that he 
 couldn't print duplex at all at the moment.  If it isn't in the PPD then that 
 explains it.

The facility to print duplex *is* in the PPD. Displaying this information
in the GTK and Qt print dialogues is a different matter.


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Config vsftpd 2.3.5-3 on Debian 7.8

2015-02-25 Thread Sascha Steinmann (adremes GmbH Co KG)
Hi,
i got a problem using the option chroot_local_user=yes.
When I activate this option to jail the users in their home directories, they 
login to / directorie with a ftp-client and not to their home directorie I give 
them.
Any1 has an idea why this happen?

Sascha



Re: Lenovo 050 desktop crashing

2015-02-25 Thread Sharon Kimble
David Christensen dpchr...@holgerdanske.com writes:

 On 02/24/2015 03:23 AM, Sharon Kimble wrote:
 I have just bought a new computer,a Lenovo 050 desktop. Its working
 reasonably okay except for the occasional crashes.
 ...
 It has crashed when I've been using it, and its crashed overnight
 whilst I've been asleep! There does not seem to be any pattern to
 it, or any noticeable trigger.

 A failing power supply and/or off-spec memory module can cause
 unpredictable lock-up's.


 I use an inexpensive ATX power supply tester for quick pass/fail testing:

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16899129001


 I use memtest86+ for checking RAM:

 http://www.memtest.org/

 Run memtest86+ for at least 12 hours; better 24.  I've seen machines with
 infrequent lock-up problems pass an hour or more of testing, only to fail
 once or twice in later hours.


 If your new computer fails either of the above, return it.


 If the memory and power supply test out okay, then understand that the
 whole point of the Debian testing release is to find bugs.  Here is your
 opportunity to do so.

This is the second release that I've run as testing, so I'm well
used to sorting stuff out when it breaks, but this situation had me
beat as it had never happened before!

 On 02/24/2015 10:56 AM, Sharon Kimble wrote:
 It was installed on 10th February, a netinstall of wheezy. Then
 upgraded to jessie on the same day.

 On 02/24/2015 10:56 AM, Sharon Kimble wrote:
 But it is a good idea to get a
 new 64-bit version, my install disk was burnt on 28 May 2013 so it
 does need to be replaced.

 If you're going to re-install, a fresh ISO would be a good idea.  I
 typically run amd64 on compatible hardware, but i386 with PAE (default)
 supports more than 4 GB of RAM too.  Installing and running Wheezy for a
 week or so should narrow the possibilities.

Its something that I'm bearing in mind if I need it for the future.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 14:30:44 Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 04:13:26 Curt wrote:
  On 2015-02-25, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote:
   There's also, I believe, a kde specific printer settings tool (of which
   I don't know the name) whose defaults might be conflicting with or
   overriding your duplex desires, although why the option would be
   greyed-out in various pdf viewers escapes me.
 
  Maybe it's 'system-config-printer-kde'.

 That, on this system, is a subdir with a bunch of .py stuff in it.

 And I find it a bit interesting that despite there being a bit over half a
 megabyte of python stuff in that directory, this command returns a null.

 gene@coyote:/usr/share/kde4/apps/system-config-printer-kde$ grep -i duplex
 *

 OTOH, the old install is similarly bereft of any results in that directory,
 and it worked just fine.  So if I run from the system menu, printing, I
 get a slightly different interface gui, but attempts to look at the printer
 profile in question reports an error '(unknown IPP tag)' has an unknown
 value and cannot be edited (presumably because I have not groked a way to
 run it from the menu item named printing with root privileges.

 But when I have figured it out, I get the same error, when I attempt to
 commit a change in the print quality, I am presented with the same error
 BUT it does appear to get changed.

 Clicking on closing the error does go ahead and display all the values as
 set by the web page localhost:631.

 I finally figure out how to run that as  root, and get the same IPP
 resolution tag error as when I run it as me.

 Synopsis so far:  If I want good color, it appears I have to use the
 brother drivers, but when I do, NO system printing facility can see or use
 the printers duplexing ability, the printer options page of everything that
 has a print in the file menu, call up a similar function selection
 interface that all ghosts out, and it will not use it regardless of the
 printers own menu settings under the tray menu.

 Filing a bug seems to go to a black hole, made difficult to file by the
 insistence of a name of a package to file the bug against when I have no
 damned clue where or why its getting lost.

 Which is right back at square one.  So how the heck do I convince the bug
 triage people into actually looking at this endless, nobody has more than a
 tentative clue/suggestion, which I have checked out in every case where I
 understood the lingo, without any resolution to the problem that wheezy
 has, but which ubuntu-10.04.4 LTS never had since I bought this printer
 around 2 years ago.  And since we've been chasing our collective tailks for
 what, 10 days now, its obviously not going to get fixed until the debian
 bug fixers who deal with printing actually read this thread. 
 bugs.debian.org is, as far as being able to describe the error, miserably
 lacking because the only place you can try is in the ending comments, which
 apparently aren't being read.

 No reply in about 24 hours.  What sort of a time frame should I expect?

It isn't a Debian bug.  You haven't got a working driver for Linux.  Try to 
get it from Ubuntu 10.04 since Ubuntu 14.04 hasn't got it either.

Lisi


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Re: Lenovo 050 desktop crashing

2015-02-25 Thread Sharon Kimble
Eike Lantzsch zp6...@gmx.net writes:

 On Tuesday 24 February 2015 18:56:23 Sharon Kimble wrote:
 Patrick Bartek nemomm...@gmail.com writes:
  On Tue, 24 Feb 2015, Sharon Kimble wrote:
  I have just bought a new computer,a Lenovo 050 desktop. Its working
  
  I couldn't find an 050 model.  Did you mean H50?
 
 Nope, its a Lenovo 050 Desktop from ebuyer.
 
  reasonably okay except for the occasional crashes. For instance, I've
  had it a fortnight now and its longest uptime has been just over 3
  days, even though its on all the time!
  
  What OS did it come with Windows 7 or 8?  Did the machine crash when
  running Windows?  If yes, you could have a hardware problem.  If no,
  then it's probably a Linux problem.
 
 8.1, which was very soon removed to install wheezy to upgrade to
 jessie.
 
  You seemed to have installed Jessie 32-bit based on your other posting
  -- installed watchedog . . . i386.
  
  What version of Jessie?  It's at RC1 as of 25 Jan.
 
 It was installed on 10th February, a netinstall of wheezy. Then
 upgraded to jessie on the same day.
 
  Dual boot or did you wipe out Windows?
  
  GNOME3 desktop?
 
 Fluxbox, I went into gnome once whilst I installed fluxbox, and
 there I remain.
 
  Here's what I'd do.  Start over from zero.  You could have a corrupted
  install.  Wipe out your current Jessie.  Download and install the most
  current 64-bit version. Do a checksum on the download itself and the CD
  or DVD after burning.  Depending on your Internet connection, a
  netinstall CD will get you an up-to-date system when the
  install is completed.
 
 Everything is working okay, that crashing was the only problem, so
 thanks, but I'm staying with it as it is. The setup was missing
 watchdog which is now installed. But it is a good idea to get a
 new 64-bit version, my install disk was burnt on 28 May 2013 so it
 does need to be replaced.
 
  It has crashed when I've been using it, and its crashed overnight
  whilst I've been asleep! There does not seem to be any pattern to
  it, or any noticeable trigger.
  
  When it crashes, the screen freezes, and both the usb keyboard and
  mouse freeze, and can not be used.
  
  Sounds like a kernel crash.  Does the screen go black (or another
  color) like the computer was turned off, or does the desktop image
  remain?
 
 When it crashed *everything* just froze, the keyboard, the desktop,
 the monitor, time stood still!
 
 Did you, by any chance,  install a 3.19-trunk Kernel? That one crashes on my 
 desktop too while 3.18 works flawlessly.

 Eike

Nope, its a 3.16.0-4-686-pae, bog-standard kernel.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Petter Adsen
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:03:17 +
Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:48:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 03:30:06 Curt wrote:
   On 2015-02-24, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
Went around the bush again, turned it off in cups default,
called up iceweasals print menu and again was denied duplex
functions.
 
 Gene - I just looked at  
 http://www.openprinting.org/printers
 (Why didn't I think of that before?)
 Your printer is not in the list of Brother printers which can be
 expected to work in Linux, and they do not provide a driver for it.
 
 Will your printer work properly with a current Ubuntu Live CD? (14.10 
 presumably)  Perhaps find a way of extracting the Ubuntu driver?
 They have probably tweaked something.

No need :)

I have a 14.10 machine right here, and there is no driver for his
printer there. I've checked.

Sorry, Gene. :(

Petter

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Re: [testing] installer hplip 3.15.2

2015-02-25 Thread yamo'
Salut,

Gaëtan PERRIER a écrit le 22/02/2015 16:30 :
 Le Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:31:51 +0100
 yamo' y...@beurdin.org a écrit:


 http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-hplip-3-15-2-on-linux-systems/
 http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/distros/debian.html
 
 Effectivement je n'avais pas fait attention à cette méthode. Si quelqu'un à
 des retours ? Faut-il d'abord enlever les paquets debian ?

En faisant checkinstall (sans le make install), ce ne sera pas utile.


 Je ne peux pas en dire plus, je n'ai que du canon chez moi.

 
 Les pilotes sont sous quel licence ? Est-ce que l'on a une pérennité en
 fonction des évolutions de Linux. Je n'ai pas envie de retomber dans le
 problème que j'ai eu avec mon scanner Epson qui avait un pilote proprio et
 dont j'ai du me séparer quand je suis passé en 64 bits car epson n'a pas
 fournit de version 64 bits pour les scanner anciens.

C'est très variable. Mais en fait, je ne les utilise que très rarement
et je n'ai pas eu le temps de m'en occuper sérieusement ;  elles ne sont
pas installées sauf sur un viel ordi sur debian squeeze. Et j'ai un
problème de configuration de cups. Là mon IP4200 bien que branchée sur
une debian squeeze n'est réellement utilisée que sur un XP bidouillé
pour qu'il n'aille pas sur le net...
J'en ai une autre que je n'ai pas réussit à faire fonctionner en 64bits!


Les imprimantes : une imprimante achetée il y a longtemps quand j'étais
sur windows, l'autre j'avais vérifié qu'elle était supportée et en fait
c'est pas vraiment le cas...
 La prochaine ne sera probablement pas une canon.



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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 12:31:05 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:

 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:10:05 Brian wrote:
  On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 11:20:20 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
   On Wednesday 25 February 2015 10:11:51 Curt wrote:
On 2015-02-25, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 CUPS has not provided information about them them because it gets its
 information from the Duplex option in the PPD file. The brother PPD
 does not provide such an option. There is no bug.
   
Then I can't understand why Gene said he could print a test page in
duplex using the brother PPD after setting the duplex option as a
default in the web interface.
  
   I didn't understand him so to say. :-/  I thought that he said that he
   couldn't print duplex at all at the moment.  If it isn't in the PPD then
   that explains it.
 
  The facility to print duplex *is* in the PPD. Displaying this information
  in the GTK and Qt print dialogues is a different matter.
 
 I'm lost now.
 
 CUPS has not provided information about them them because it gets its
 information from the Duplex option in the PPD file. The brother PPD
 does not provide such an option.
 
  The facility to print duplex *is* in the PPD.
 
 Both from you.  Could you explain?

Have you looked in the PPD to see whether

(a) the Duplex option is here

(b) the facility to print duplex is present?


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:48:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
 Because THIS Brother supplied ppd has the characters BR prepended to every
 variable name in the duplex control stanza?  You can edit the BR's out of
 the ppd, restart cups, and these option ARE then visible and settable in
 the print options dialogs.  But then of course without the BR in the option
 string, the printer ignores it as just so much noise?  Somehow I think this
 is the real problem.

Have you tried asking Brother?

Lisi


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Re: recommended ftp clients for Debian

2015-02-25 Thread Ron
 With gFTP being apparently on its way out, being apparently removed by Debian 
 8, 

gftp runs well under 7.7, so you have a bit more time before having to change.

Anyway I am not unduly worried as I'll be shifting some time ahead for a 
systemd-free distribution.
 
Cheers,
 
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Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Rusi Mody
On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 11:40:05 AM UTC+5:30, Bret Busby wrote:
 On 20/02/2015, Bob Proulx  wrote:
  Bret Busby wrote:
  The Debian 7.60 LXDE LiveCD does not have an option to boot into rescue
  mode.
 
  You could always download the standard debian-installer and use that
  to boot rescue mode.  It is a very good option.
 
 
 
 In trying to use a standard Debian installer iso, and booting into
 rescue mode, I got toa screen select partition into which to install
 the root system, or words to that effect.
 
 I have 13 partitions, and that screen does not provide any
 information, such as labels or filesystem types, for the partitions,
 so I have to figure out which is the appropriate partition to use as
 the root system. It does not indicate anything like A previous Debian
 installation was found in partition x, so you might want to use this
 partition.
 
 So, I have to remove the disk with that iso image, boot with a LiveCD
 disk, and, examine the partitions.
 
 The laptop computer, to which all of this appiles, whilst being (to
 me) a fairly powerful computer, has an inferior optical disk drive,
 that appears to be designed to be as diffiocult as possible, to
 manually open, often taking uip to 20-30 minutes, to get it to open
 manually, to remove or replace the removable optical disk.
 
 Often, software, including operating system installation iso images,
 include a software utility, that ejects the optical disk.
 
 The Debian 7.8 installation iso image that I downloaded, both in the
 rescue mode, and, in the main menu, does not include an option Abort
 installation, at any step that I encountered, wherein, an Abort
 installation option, involves ejecting the removable media, and a
 message Remove the removable media and press ENTER to reboot.
 
 On this laptop PC, that appears designed to obstruct manual ejection
 of removable media, software induced ejection of the optical removable
 media, constistently works without any problem.
 
 Why does the Debian standard installation iso image, not include an
 Abort installation option (at each screen, although, even, a single
 instantiation, on the primary menu, would help, by rebooting the
 system into that menu, to do it, if that is the only way to access
 that option), that would enable ejection of the removable media with
 the iso image, instead of making this so difficult, to extract the
 removable media with the iso image?

Have you tried configfile?

configfile is a grub command that can be used to 'connect' to grub
eg 

1. if your (working) debian's root is in /dev/sda5
   Then at the grub prompt try issuing the command
   configfile (hd0,5)/boot/grub/grub.cfg

2. If however your boot is a separate partition (say sda2) the command would be
   configfile (hd0,2)/grub/grub.cfg

Note: you may need to fiddle with the secureboot options in bios


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:48:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 03:30:06 Curt wrote:
  On 2015-02-24, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
   Went around the bush again, turned it off in cups default, called up
   iceweasals print menu and again was denied duplex functions.

Gene - I just looked at  
http://www.openprinting.org/printers
(Why didn't I think of that before?)
Your printer is not in the list of Brother printers which can be expected to 
work in Linux, and they do not provide a driver for it.

Will your printer work properly with a current Ubuntu Live CD? (14.10 
presumably)  Perhaps find a way of extracting the Ubuntu driver?  They have 
probably tweaked something.

Lisi


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No puedo acceder a sitio web especifico. Estare bloqueado?

2015-02-25 Thread kazabe
Hola.

Desde hace varios dias he notado que desde mi red no podemos acceder a
un sitio web especifico gubernamental.  El sitio simplemente no abre
desde mi red.  Intente accederlo directamente desde el gateway y
tampoco.  Intente analizar el trafico, y al parecer el sitio
simplemente no me quiere responder (desde otros lugares si accede
correctamente).

Es posible que tengan mi ip bloqueada?  se me hace raro por ser un
servidor gubernamental, pero no encuentro mas explicaciones a ese
comportamiento.  Intente analizar el trafico al intentarme conectar y
obtengo lo siguiente:


root@GATEWAY:~# tcpdump - -i eth1 host 1.2.3.4
tcpdump: listening on eth1, link-type EN10MB (Ethernet), capture size
65535 bytes
07:00:04.873895 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 25859, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto TCP (6), length 60)
my.gateway.com.40241  1-2-3-4.destination.server.org.http: Flags
[S], cksum 0xfc7e (correct), seq 1998141470, win 29200, options [mss
1460,sackOK,TS val 193617181 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
07:00:05.871829 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 25860, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto TCP (6), length 60)
my.gateway.com.40241  1-2-3-4.destination.server.org.http: Flags
[S], cksum 0xfb84 (correct), seq 1998141470, win 29200, options [mss
1460,sackOK,TS val 193617431 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
07:00:07.875873 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 25861, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto TCP (6), length 60)
my.gateway.com.40241  1-2-3-4.destination.server.org.http: Flags
[S], cksum 0xf98f (correct), seq 1998141470, win 29200, options [mss
1460,sackOK,TS val 193617932 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
07:00:11.883953 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 25862, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto TCP (6), length 60)
my.gateway.com.40241  1-2-3-4.destination.server.org.http: Flags
[S], cksum 0xf5a5 (correct), seq 1998141470, win 29200, options [mss
1460,sackOK,TS val 193618934 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
07:00:19.892113 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 25863, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto TCP (6), length 60)
my.gateway.com.40241  1-2-3-4.destination.server.org.http: Flags
[S], cksum 0xedd3 (correct), seq 1998141470, win 29200, options [mss
1460,sackOK,TS val 193620936 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
07:00:35.924426 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 25864, offset 0, flags [DF],
proto TCP (6), length 60)
my.gateway.com.40241  1-2-3-4.destination.server.org.http: Flags
[S], cksum 0xde2b (correct), seq 1998141470, win 29200, options [mss
1460,sackOK,TS val 193624944 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0


Me llama la atencion la parte win 29200, ya que desde otras
conexiones muestra win 256.

Que me recomiendan para encontrar la solucion  esta situacion?

Muchas gracias


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Re: Servidor de correo (postfix) y spam

2015-02-25 Thread Camaleón
El Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:46:37 +0100, José Miguel (sio2) escribió:

 El Tue, 24 de Feb de 2015, a las 03:05:49PM +, Camaleón dijo:
 
 Sí, vsftp tiene usuarios virtuales ajenos a las cuentas del sistema. Y
 sí, usa PAM pero ojo que PAM es súper flexible y no sólo permite
 autentificaciones mediante su bdd local sino contra todo tipo recursos
 que van desde archivos en texto plano hasta kerberos.
 
 Bueno, pues eso es lo que yo venía a decir: que todo es cosa de PAM, no
 de vsftp en sí. No es el caso de pureftp que creo recordar que sí
 soporta sus propios usuarios (sin ayudarse de módulos de PAM quiero
 decir).

No he trabajado con PureFTP pero por su documentación parece que usa un 
sistema similar al de vftpd para la gestión de usuarios virtuales, al 
menos si se quiere usar su db interna:

http://download.pureftpd.org/pub/pure-ftpd/doc/README.Virtual-Users

 De lo que se trata es de dejar a los usuarios del sistema separados de
 los servicios accesibles en remoto (pop3/imap, smtp, ftp, apache...)
 
 Sí. El servidor actual lo tengo hecho un poco monstruito, porque le fui
 añadiendo servicios según los iba necesitando o me parecían bien sin un
 plan previo preestablecido. Como ahora tengo las necesidades más claras,
 seré más previsor al montar el nuevo servidor. Ya pediré consejo al
 respecto.
 
 ¡Ah! debian me acaba de resolver la duda entre denyhosts y fail2ban:
 
 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732712
 
 Y efectivamente ya no está en jessie.

Vaya... no sabía que el proyecto principal estaba muerto/abandonado, no 
pone nada en su web :-?

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Re: No puedo acceder a sitio web especifico. Estare bloqueado?

2015-02-25 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 25 Feb 2015 07:26:34 -0500, kazabe escribió:

 Desde hace varios dias he notado que desde mi red no podemos acceder a
 un sitio web especifico gubernamental.  El sitio simplemente no abre
 desde mi red.  Intente accederlo directamente desde el gateway y
 tampoco.  Intente analizar el trafico, y al parecer el sitio simplemente
 no me quiere responder (desde otros lugares si accede correctamente).

Si responde/es accesible desde otros ISP o equipos puede tratarse de un 
bloqueo intencionado por parte de los administradores de esa red o 
simplemente un error temporal con el enrutado en las tablas de los ISP.

En cualquier caso, y tratándose de una página web del gobierno parece 
raro que impidan el acceso por lo que lo mejor sería preguntarles 
directamente.

(...)

 07:00:35.924426 IP (tos 0x0, ttl 63, id 25864, offset 0, flags [DF],
 proto TCP (6), length 60)
 my.gateway.com.40241  1-2-3-4.destination.server.org.http: Flags
 [S], cksum 0xde2b (correct), seq 1998141470, win 29200, options [mss
 1460,sackOK,TS val 193624944 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
 
 
 Me llama la atencion la parte win 29200, ya que desde otras conexiones
 muestra win 256.

Entiendo que el valor del tamaño de la ventana podrá ser variable porque 
es una especie de búfer ¿no?

 Que me recomiendan para encontrar la solucion  esta situacion?

Llamadita o e-mail :-)

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Re: Extraño error en la mysql

2015-02-25 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 25 Feb 2015 00:26:19 -0300, Fabián Bonetti escribió:

 Pastebin  http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=H9Xfe67N
 
 Probé con esta forma pero no habia caso 
 http://www.unilogica.com/mysql-innodb-recovery/
 
 Opte por purgar el paquete mysql y removerlo luego instalarlo y usar los
 backup que tenia para resolverlo.

No parece un problema de instalación sino de la propia bd.
 
 Alguna vez supiste de esto [pregunta]
 
 Como actuaste para resolverlo y posteriormente evitarlo [pregunta]

¿Ya buscaste en Google? Parece un error bastante común:

https://www.google.es/search?q=InnoDB:+Operating+system+error+number+5+in+a+file+operation.ie=utf-8oe=utf-8gws_rd=crei=MeDtVKvgMMb3UoGihFA

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 04:46:46 Brian wrote:
 On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 09:13:26 +, Curt wrote:
  On 2015-02-25, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote:
   There's also, I believe, a kde specific printer settings tool (of which
   I don't know the name) whose defaults might be conflicting with or
   overriding your duplex desires, although why the option would be
   greyed-out in various pdf viewers escapes me.
 
  Maybe it's 'system-config-printer-kde'.

 It's not.

 The duplex facilities are not available for any application using the
 GTK or Qt print dialogues because CUPS has not provided information
 about them.

 CUPS has not provided information about them them because it gets its
 information from the Duplex option in the PPD file. The brother PPD does
 not provide such an option. There is no bug.
I'll argue that point, something has changed between wheezy and lucid that is 
now causing the bug.

Yes it (the Brother PPD, read it, attached if the server will pass it) does 
AND cups CAN select it, so why cannot the rest of the system make use of it?

Question:  How can I show this dialogue interchange between cups and the GTK 
or Qt print dialogs?

A Clue and the only one I have ATM:
These options become unghosted and selectable in both of the print dialogs IF 
the two characters 'BR' are removed from all those strings in the Brother 
ppd.  But then, despite being able to select them in the print dialogs, it 
still does  _not_ work.  BTDT about 3 times now.  So that 'patch' is 
incomplete because the printer does not (apparently) understand it with the 
BR's removed.  It did work, has worked for about 2 years now, and the 
firmware in the printer has not been changed after the initial reload two 
years ago.

 The inability to print in duplex is not related to the greying-out in
 the print dialogues.

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*PPD-Adobe: 4.3

*%
*%  Copyright(C) 2012 Brother Industries, Ltd.
*%  Brother HL-3170CDW series for CUPS
*% 

*% General Information Keywords 
*FormatVersion: 4.3
*FileVersion: 4.0.9
*LanguageVersion: English
*LanguageEncoding: ISOLatin1
*PCFileName: HL3170W.PPD
*Manufacturer: Brother
*Product: (HL-3170CDW series)
*1284DeviceID: MFG:Brother;MDL:HL-3170CDW series
*cupsVersion: 1.4
*cupsManualCopies: false
*cupsFilter: application/vnd.cups-postscript 0 brother_lpdwrapper_hl3170cdw
*cupsModelNumber: 5
*ModelName: Brother HL-3170CDW series
*ShortNickName: HL-3170CDW series
*NickName: Brother HL-3170CDW series CUPS
*PSVersion: (3010.106) 3

*% Basic Device Capabilities =
*LanguageLevel: 3
*ColorDevice: True
*DefaultColorSpace: RGB
*FileSystem: False
*Throughput: 17
*VariablePaperSize: False
*TTRasterizer: Type42
*FreeVM: 170

*%DefaultOutputOrder: Reverse

*%=== UI Constraints ==
*%  PageSize - BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize A5 *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageSize A5Rotated *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize A6 *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize JISB5 *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize JISB6 *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize Br3x5 *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize Env10 *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize EnvC5 *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize EnvChou3 *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize EnvDL *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize EnvMonarch *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize EnvPRC5Rotated *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize EnvYou4 *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize Executive *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize B5 *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize Postcard *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize 195x270mm *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize 184x260mm *BRDuplex
*UIConstraints: *PageSize 197x273mm *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageSize Custom *BRDuplex

*%  PageRegion - BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion A5 *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion A5Rotated *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion A6 *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion JISB5 *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion JISB6 *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion Br3x5 *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion Env10 *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion EnvC5 *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion EnvChou3 *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion EnvDL *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion EnvMonarch *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion EnvPRC5Rotated *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion EnvYou4 *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion Executive *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion B5 *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion Postcard *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion 195x270mm *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion 184x260mm *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion 197x273mm *BRDuplex
*%UIConstraints: *PageRegion Custom *BRDuplex

*%  

Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 14:46:36 Brian wrote:
 On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 15:27:44 +0100, Petter Adsen wrote:
  On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:03:17 +
 
  Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:48:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 03:30:06 Curt wrote:
 On 2015-02-24, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  Went around the bush again, turned it off in cups default,
  called up iceweasals print menu and again was denied duplex
  functions.
  
   Gene - I just looked at
   http://www.openprinting.org/printers
   (Why didn't I think of that before?)
   Your printer is not in the list of Brother printers which can be
   expected to work in Linux, and they do not provide a driver for it.
  
   Will your printer work properly with a current Ubuntu Live CD? (14.10
   presumably)  Perhaps find a way of extracting the Ubuntu driver?
   They have probably tweaked something.
 
  No need :)
 
  I have a 14.10 machine right here, and there is no driver for his
  printer there. I've checked.

 Not surprising; the licence for the Brother software doesn't permit
 distribution.

Then it can't have been in Lucid either, surely?

 The lack of advice on the HL-3170CDW at openprinting is an indication
 that no user of it has added any, not a judgement on whether it works
 on Linux.

Yes, but if there had been advice it woudl have been useful.

So do you agree with Gene that it is a Wheezy bug?

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ld.so.nohwcap and ld.so.preload; was Re: mounting a labeled filesystem.

2015-02-25 Thread peter
*   From: Darac Marjal /etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 3
access(/etc/ld.so.nohwcap, F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libblkid.so.1, O_RDONLY) = 3
access(/etc/ld.so.nohwcap, F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1, O_RDONLY) = 3
access(/etc/ld.so.nohwcap, F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libsepol.so.1, O_RDONLY) = 3

ld.so.nohwcap and ld.so.preload in /etc?

According to https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/fhs/fhs-2.3.html
libraries belong in /lib or in /usr/lib.  

Does anyone recognize this problem?

Thanks,   ... Peter E.


  


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 09:41:26 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 14:30:44 Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 04:13:26 Curt wrote:
   On 2015-02-25, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote:
There's also, I believe, a kde specific printer settings tool (of
which I don't know the name) whose defaults might be conflicting with
or overriding your duplex desires, although why the option would be
greyed-out in various pdf viewers escapes me.
  
   Maybe it's 'system-config-printer-kde'.
 
  That, on this system, is a subdir with a bunch of .py stuff in it.
 
  And I find it a bit interesting that despite there being a bit over half
  a megabyte of python stuff in that directory, this command returns a
  null.
 
  gene@coyote:/usr/share/kde4/apps/system-config-printer-kde$ grep -i
  duplex *
 
  OTOH, the old install is similarly bereft of any results in that
  directory, and it worked just fine.  So if I run from the system menu,
  printing, I get a slightly different interface gui, but attempts to
  look at the printer profile in question reports an error '(unknown IPP
  tag)' has an unknown value and cannot be edited (presumably because I
  have not groked a way to run it from the menu item named printing with
  root privileges.
 
  But when I have figured it out, I get the same error, when I attempt to
  commit a change in the print quality, I am presented with the same error
  BUT it does appear to get changed.
 
  Clicking on closing the error does go ahead and display all the values as
  set by the web page localhost:631.
 
  I finally figure out how to run that as  root, and get the same IPP
  resolution tag error as when I run it as me.
 
  Synopsis so far:  If I want good color, it appears I have to use the
  brother drivers, but when I do, NO system printing facility can see or
  use the printers duplexing ability, the printer options page of
  everything that has a print in the file menu, call up a similar function
  selection interface that all ghosts out, and it will not use it
  regardless of the printers own menu settings under the tray menu.
 
  Filing a bug seems to go to a black hole, made difficult to file by the
  insistence of a name of a package to file the bug against when I have no
  damned clue where or why its getting lost.
 
  Which is right back at square one.  So how the heck do I convince the bug
  triage people into actually looking at this endless, nobody has more than
  a tentative clue/suggestion, which I have checked out in every case where
  I understood the lingo, without any resolution to the problem that wheezy
  has, but which ubuntu-10.04.4 LTS never had since I bought this printer
  around 2 years ago.  And since we've been chasing our collective tailks
  for what, 10 days now, its obviously not going to get fixed until the
  debian bug fixers who deal with printing actually read this thread.
  bugs.debian.org is, as far as being able to describe the error, miserably
  lacking because the only place you can try is in the ending comments,
  which apparently aren't being read.
 
  No reply in about 24 hours.  What sort of a time frame should I expect?

 It isn't a Debian bug.  You haven't got a working driver for Linux.  Try to
 get it from Ubuntu 10.04 since Ubuntu 14.04 hasn't got it either.

I have also done that, it doesn't work duplex either, but it shows in the cups 
dialog just fine.

 Lisi

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Re: ld.so.nohwcap and ld.so.preload; was Re: mounting a labeled filesystem.

2015-02-25 Thread Reco
 Hi.

On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 06:38:11 -0800
pe...@easthope.ca wrote:

 * From: Darac Marjal *Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 15:13:24 +
  ... run strace mount LABEL=GRNSDHC41 ...
 
 peter@dalton:~$ strace -e trace=file -o stracemount mount LABEL=GRNSDHC41
 mount: must be superuser to use mount

This is an expected result regardless of what you're trying to achieve.
Strace should (and will) ignore suid and sgid bits on executables.
Curiously enough that strace(1) lists such behavior as bug.

Since the actual mount(2) syscall requires CAP_SYS_ADMIN (basically -
you should be root), and a real /bin/mount binary is suid root - such
strace invocation should never actually mount anything.


 peter@dalton:~$ head strac*
 execve(/bin/mount, [mount, LABEL=GRNSDHC41], [/* 30 vars */]) = 0
 access(/etc/ld.so.nohwcap, F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
 directory)
 access(/etc/ld.so.preload, R_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
 directory)
 open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 3
 access(/etc/ld.so.nohwcap, F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
 directory)
 open(/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libblkid.so.1, O_RDONLY) = 3
 access(/etc/ld.so.nohwcap, F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
 directory)
 open(/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1, O_RDONLY) = 3
 access(/etc/ld.so.nohwcap, F_OK)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
 directory)
 open(/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libsepol.so.1, O_RDONLY) = 3
 
 ld.so.nohwcap and ld.so.preload in /etc?

This strace output shows that there are no such files there (ENOENT
means exactly this).


 According to https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/fhs/fhs-2.3.html
 libraries belong in /lib or in /usr/lib.  

Don't let 'so' confuse you. ld.so.nohwcap and ld.so.preload are
'configuration files', not libraries as far as FHS is concerned. See
ld.so (8).

Reco


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 05:59:29 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 09:13:26 Curt wrote:
  On 2015-02-25, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote:
   There's also, I believe, a kde specific printer settings tool (of which
   I don't know the name) whose defaults might be conflicting with or
   overriding your duplex desires, although why the option would be
   greyed-out in various pdf viewers escapes me.
 
  Maybe it's 'system-config-printer-kde'.

 He's using TDE not KDE4.  It's menu - settings - printers

 But I never use it, Gene.  I stick to CUPS.

And cups does recognize it just fine, its the rest of the print dialogs 
associated with iceweasal, okular, evince or even calibre that do not 
recognize it.  Open office however does recognize it, but I have not been 
able to load a pdf to print from with it.  pdf's render as garbage.  ISTR 
that did also work before.


 Lisi

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 08:16:27 Brian wrote:
 On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 12:58:50 +, Curt wrote:
  On 2015-02-25, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
   I didn't understand him so to say. :-/  I thought that he said that he
   couldn't print duplex at all at the moment.  If it isn't in the PPD
   then that explains it.
  
   Lisi
 
  Gene said
 
   No change, both evince and okular show duplex as disabled. *I did set it
   in localhost:631/printers/printer/set defaults.  No problem there.  It
   will print a cups test page ok*, and the colors look ok in the wheel
   there.  But no other app can detect that it is duplex capable.

 evince and okular show duplex as not available, not as disabled.

 The cups test page is a single page. When duplex is on on my printer
 the sheet is pulled back in after one side is printed. Then it is
 ejected. The other side is blank of course.

I have never seen this printer do such a wasted motion. The test page, a 
single page, is ejected completely.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 10:03:31 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 14:46:36 Brian wrote:
  On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 15:27:44 +0100, Petter Adsen wrote:
   On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:03:17 +
  
   Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:48:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 03:30:06 Curt wrote:
  On 2015-02-24, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
   Went around the bush again, turned it off in cups default,
   called up iceweasals print menu and again was denied duplex
   functions.
   
Gene - I just looked at
http://www.openprinting.org/printers
(Why didn't I think of that before?)
Your printer is not in the list of Brother printers which can be
expected to work in Linux, and they do not provide a driver for it.
   
Will your printer work properly with a current Ubuntu Live CD? (14.10
presumably)  Perhaps find a way of extracting the Ubuntu driver?
They have probably tweaked something.
  
   No need :)
  
   I have a 14.10 machine right here, and there is no driver for his
   printer there. I've checked.
 
  Not surprising; the licence for the Brother software doesn't permit
  distribution.
So my posting the ppd is a known copyright violation?  Oh shit...

 Then it can't have been in Lucid either, surely?

The driver was then available on the support.brother.com web page, now its 2 
years old so they hid it, but the installer script I also posted, and which 
is likely a copyright violation too, can still get it and install it.  CUPS 
recognizes the duplex options and can control them, and I just found the open 
office  printer dialog does too, but haven't found a suitable document for a 
test print from OO, it doesn't seem to want to load and display a .pdf.

  The lack of advice on the HL-3170CDW at openprinting is an indication
  that no user of it has added any, not a judgement on whether it works
  on Linux.

 Yes, but if there had been advice it woudl have been useful.

 So do you agree with Gene that it is a Wheezy bug?

 Lisi

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 15:09:27 Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 05:59:29 Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 09:13:26 Curt wrote:
   On 2015-02-25, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote:
There's also, I believe, a kde specific printer settings tool (of
which I don't know the name) whose defaults might be conflicting with
or overriding your duplex desires, although why the option would be
greyed-out in various pdf viewers escapes me.
  
   Maybe it's 'system-config-printer-kde'.
 
  He's using TDE not KDE4.  It's menu - settings - printers
 
  But I never use it, Gene.  I stick to CUPS.

 And cups does recognize it just fine, its the rest of the print dialogs
 associated with iceweasal, okular, evince or even calibre that do not
 recognize it.  Open office however does recognize it, but I have not been
 able to load a pdf to print from with it.  pdf's render as garbage.  ISTR
 that did also work before.

I doubt it.  But there is a new special version of LibreOffice for TDE that 
just might work.  I'm busy at the moment, but I'll investigate later.

Lisi


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 09:54:04 Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 04:46:46 Brian wrote:
  On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 09:13:26 +, Curt wrote:
   On 2015-02-25, Curt cu...@free.fr wrote:
There's also, I believe, a kde specific printer settings tool (of
which I don't know the name) whose defaults might be conflicting with
or overriding your duplex desires, although why the option would be
greyed-out in various pdf viewers escapes me.
  
   Maybe it's 'system-config-printer-kde'.
 
  It's not.
 
  The duplex facilities are not available for any application using the
  GTK or Qt print dialogues because CUPS has not provided information
  about them.
 
  CUPS has not provided information about them them because it gets its
  information from the Duplex option in the PPD file. The brother PPD does
  not provide such an option. There is no bug.

 I'll argue that point, something has changed between wheezy and lucid that
 is now causing the bug.

 Yes it (the Brother PPD, read it, attached if the server will pass it) does
 AND cups CAN select it, so why cannot the rest of the system make use of
 it?

 Question:  How can I show this dialogue interchange between cups and the
 GTK or Qt print dialogs?

 A Clue and the only one I have ATM:
 These options become unghosted and selectable in both of the print dialogs
 IF the two characters 'BR' are removed from all those strings in the
 Brother ppd.  But then, despite being able to select them in the print
 dialogs, it still does  _not_ work.  BTDT about 3 times now.  So that
 'patch' is incomplete because the printer does not (apparently) understand
 it with the BR's removed.  It did work, has worked for about 2 years now,
 and the firmware in the printer has not been changed after the initial
 reload two years ago.

  The inability to print in duplex is not related to the greying-out in
  the print dialogues.

 Cheers, Gene Heskett

So the ppd did make it thru the server, it was 32kb, but apparently the 
installer script, at 89k or so, did not.  The whole message seems to be 
blocked.

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Re: Lenovo 050 desktop crashing

2015-02-25 Thread Jimmy Johnson

On 02/25/2015 06:11 AM, Sharon Kimble wrote:


You said you upgraded from Wheezy.  When or if, you reinstall Jessie,
just get the latest version and do a clean install.  I've never done a
distribution upgrade that didn't require fixing in some way or other.
Clean installs are the least problematical.


Good advice, which I'm going to follow.

Thanks
Sharon.



Something I would like for you to try first before you do anything else 
is to do a search for free and non-free firmware and install what is 
missing from your system and then install the package upgrade-system 
and run 'upgrade-system' from the console, let it do what it wants to do 
even though what it will want to do may scare you, this software script 
has never let me down, never, and I run many systems from stable to sid. 
If more people ran upgrade-system I would see less problems in this group.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Curt
On 2015-02-25, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 May I remind everyone that the cups test page is ONE page, and therefore 
 cannot, will not, exercise the duplex functions. A 2 page test page would be 
 handier than bottled beer for troubleshooting this, but we don't have one


I would have expected it to work as in opensuse (*one page, recto-verso*).

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 10:41:30 Petter Adsen wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:00:01 -0500

 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 05:11:51 Curt wrote:
   On 2015-02-25, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
CUPS has not provided information about them them because it gets
its information from the Duplex option in the PPD file. The
brother PPD does not provide such an option. There is no bug.
  
   Then I can't understand why Gene said he could print a test page in
   duplex using the brother PPD after setting the duplex option as a
   default in the web interface.
 
  I don't recall saying that. I can duplex print if I use one of the
  foomatic postscript drivers, but of the ones I have tried, everyone
  works, and then crashes the printer so it has to be powerdown reset
  to retre it for the next job.
 
  May I remind everyone that the cups test page is ONE page, and
  therefore cannot, will not, exercise the duplex functions. A 2 page
  test page would be handier than bottled beer for troubleshooting
  this, but we don't have one

 I just tested printing from a Jessie VM here on my Epson printer. When
 set to duplex, it pulls the page back in, and then spits it out again,
 although it hasn't printed anything on the back. When I tried from an
 OpenSUSE VM, it actually printed on both sides.

 Attached, if the server lets it through.

It did, and it was opened by kghostview for display when I dbl-clicked on it.

kghostview's printer dialog can see AND adjust the options. I left the default 
long edge binding duplex setting in place and printed it, AND IT WORKED!

But that printer dialog is obviously not one of the two I have been dealing 
with here. It is TDEPrint , and appears to work exactly as expected.

So we have now learned that it can work on wheezy, if the right printer dialog 
issues the command to (cups version) lp.

Do we still have the group in denial?

Now, if I can determine from the help screens of the other print dialogs and 
determine what their names are, I can begin to file meaningful bugs.

 Petter

Thank you Petter, it was and is, a valuable tool for testing.  I appreciate 
it.
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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 15:03:31 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:

 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 14:46:36 Brian wrote:
  On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 15:27:44 +0100, Petter Adsen wrote:
   On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:03:17 +
  
   I have a 14.10 machine right here, and there is no driver for his
   printer there. I've checked.
 
  Not surprising; the licence for the Brother software doesn't permit
  distribution.
 
 Then it can't have been in Lucid either, surely?

I imagine not. That was my point.

  The lack of advice on the HL-3170CDW at openprinting is an indication
  that no user of it has added any, not a judgement on whether it works
  on Linux.
 
 Yes, but if there had been advice it woudl have been useful.

Of course.
 
 So do you agree with Gene that it is a Wheezy bug?

That's a big jump from what I said. And what bug is it you are talking
about? There have been a number of assertions in this thread. None lead
me to think that Wheezy is heading for imminent breakdown on the printing
front. :)


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Re: Wiki Debian

2015-02-25 Thread Antonio Terceiro
On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:53:00PM -0300, Listeiro 037 wrote:
 
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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 05:11:51 Curt wrote:
 On 2015-02-25, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
  CUPS has not provided information about them them because it gets its
  information from the Duplex option in the PPD file. The brother PPD does
  not provide such an option. There is no bug.

 Then I can't understand why Gene said he could print a test page in
 duplex using the brother PPD after setting the duplex option as a
 default in the web interface.

I don't recall saying that. I can duplex print if I use one of the foomatic 
postscript drivers, but of the ones I have tried, everyone works, and then 
crashes the printer so it has to be powerdown reset to retre it for the next 
job.

May I remind everyone that the cups test page is ONE page, and therefore 
cannot, will not, exercise the duplex functions. A 2 page test page would be 
handier than bottled beer for troubleshooting this, but we don't have one

  The inability to print in duplex is not related to the greying-out in
  the print dialogues.

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Re: Extraño error en la mysql

2015-02-25 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:49:17 + (UTC)
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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Petter Adsen
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:00:01 -0500
Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 
 
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 05:11:51 Curt wrote:
  On 2015-02-25, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
   CUPS has not provided information about them them because it gets
   its information from the Duplex option in the PPD file. The
   brother PPD does not provide such an option. There is no bug.
 
  Then I can't understand why Gene said he could print a test page in
  duplex using the brother PPD after setting the duplex option as a
  default in the web interface.
 
 I don't recall saying that. I can duplex print if I use one of the
 foomatic postscript drivers, but of the ones I have tried, everyone
 works, and then crashes the printer so it has to be powerdown reset
 to retre it for the next job.
 
 May I remind everyone that the cups test page is ONE page, and
 therefore cannot, will not, exercise the duplex functions. A 2 page
 test page would be handier than bottled beer for troubleshooting
 this, but we don't have one

I just tested printing from a Jessie VM here on my Epson printer. When
set to duplex, it pulls the page back in, and then spits it out again,
although it hasn't printed anything on the back. When I tried from an
OpenSUSE VM, it actually printed on both sides.

Attached, if the server lets it through.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 15:27:44 +0100, Petter Adsen wrote:

 On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:03:17 +
 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:48:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
   On Wednesday 25 February 2015 03:30:06 Curt wrote:
On 2015-02-24, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
 Went around the bush again, turned it off in cups default,
 called up iceweasals print menu and again was denied duplex
 functions.
  
  Gene - I just looked at  
  http://www.openprinting.org/printers
  (Why didn't I think of that before?)
  Your printer is not in the list of Brother printers which can be
  expected to work in Linux, and they do not provide a driver for it.
  
  Will your printer work properly with a current Ubuntu Live CD? (14.10 
  presumably)  Perhaps find a way of extracting the Ubuntu driver?
  They have probably tweaked something.
 
 No need :)
 
 I have a 14.10 machine right here, and there is no driver for his
 printer there. I've checked.

Not surprising; the licence for the Brother software doesn't permit
distribution.

The lack of advice on the HL-3170CDW at openprinting is an indication
that no user of it has added any, not a judgement on whether it works
on Linux.


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 14:54:04 Gene Heskett wrote:
Lisi said:
   There is no bug.
 I'll argue that point, something has changed between wheezy and lucid that
 is now causing the bug.

!!!  Gene, Wheezy is in no way descended from Lucid.  

It is not a Debian bug.  It is a driver problem.  If you like Lucid so much, 
why don't you use it?

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 09:27:44 Petter Adsen wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:03:17 +

 Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:48:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
   On Wednesday 25 February 2015 03:30:06 Curt wrote:
On 2015-02-24, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
 Went around the bush again, turned it off in cups default,
 called up iceweasals print menu and again was denied duplex
 functions.
 
  Gene - I just looked at
  http://www.openprinting.org/printers
  (Why didn't I think of that before?)
  Your printer is not in the list of Brother printers which can be
  expected to work in Linux, and they do not provide a driver for it.
 
  Will your printer work properly with a current Ubuntu Live CD? (14.10
  presumably)  Perhaps find a way of extracting the Ubuntu driver?
  They have probably tweaked something.

 No need :)

 I have a 14.10 machine right here, and there is no driver for his
 printer there. I've checked.

 Sorry, Gene. :(

 Petter

See the Brother supplied script, attached to a previous msg 10 minutes ago, 
originally a tarball.gz

They still have it, just not visible on their web page.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 09:46:36 Brian wrote:
 On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 15:27:44 +0100, Petter Adsen wrote:
  On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:03:17 +
 
  Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
   On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:48:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 03:30:06 Curt wrote:
 On 2015-02-24, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  Went around the bush again, turned it off in cups default,
  called up iceweasals print menu and again was denied duplex
  functions.
  
   Gene - I just looked at
   http://www.openprinting.org/printers
   (Why didn't I think of that before?)
   Your printer is not in the list of Brother printers which can be
   expected to work in Linux, and they do not provide a driver for it.
  
   Will your printer work properly with a current Ubuntu Live CD? (14.10
   presumably)  Perhaps find a way of extracting the Ubuntu driver?
   They have probably tweaked something.
 
  No need :)
 
  I have a 14.10 machine right here, and there is no driver for his
  printer there. I've checked.

 Not surprising; the licence for the Brother software doesn't permit
 distribution.

 The lack of advice on the HL-3170CDW at openprinting is an indication
 that no user of it has added any, not a judgement on whether it works
 on Linux.

And I repeat, it works well on linux, but not on wheezy.

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hplip-gui failed to connect my wireless printer HP

2015-02-25 Thread Gerard ROBIN
Hello,
I installed jessie on a USB-drive and when I try to connect my printer 
using wifi with hplip-gui it works fine until the fourth stage but the 
fifth step fails. However on the same machine on the internal drive is 
installed wheezy and I configure the wireless connection (on the same 
printer) successfully.
I enclose a screenshot of the fifth stage. 

Is it a bug or a simple solution exist?

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 07:58:50 Curt wrote:
 On 2015-02-25, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  I didn't understand him so to say. :-/  I thought that he said that he
  couldn't print duplex at all at the moment.  If it isn't in the PPD then
  that explains it.
 
  Lisi

 Gene said

  No change, both evince and okular show duplex as disabled. *I did set it
  in localhost:631/printers/printer/set defaults.  No problem there.  It
  will print a cups test page ok*, and the colors look ok in the wheel
  there.  But no other app can detect that it is duplex capable.

And I will re-re-remind everyone that the cups test page is a single page 
file, so it will not ever exercise the duplex functions, ever.  So of coarse 
it works fine, for the test page.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 10:00:47 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 14:54:04 Gene Heskett wrote:

 Lisi said:
There is no bug.
 
  I'll argue that point, something has changed between wheezy and lucid
  that is now causing the bug.

 !!!  Gene, Wheezy is in no way descended from Lucid.

 It is not a Debian bug.  It is a driver problem.  If you like Lucid so
 much, why don't you use it?

That drive went read-only, and support for the LTS officially ends at the end 
of next month. I figure that I will have to reinvent this wheel then anyway.

 Lisi.

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Iceweasel, paquet non authentifié etc.

2015-02-25 Thread Francois Lafont
Bonjour à tous,

Sur ma Debian Wheezy, pour avoir une version de Iceweasel à jour
j'utilise le dépôt (depuis un certain temps déjà) :

deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release

J'avais suivi les indications de cette page : http://mozilla.debian.net/
Je précise que j'ai bien la bonne clé APT du dépôt que j'ai ajoutée
aujourd'hui à nouveau, juste au cas où, via la commande :

wget http://mozilla.debian.net/archive.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -

Depuis aujourd'hui seulement, il se passe une chose que je n'avais
encore pas rencontrée sur le dépôt http://mozilla.debian.net que j'utilise
pourtant depuis un certain temps. Ce dépôt me propose des paquets non
authentifiés :

---
~$ sudo apt-get update # la commande s'exécute sans la moindre erreur, ni 
warning

~$ sudo apt-get upgrade 
Lecture des listes de paquets... Fait
Construction de l'arbre des dépendances   
Lecture des informations d'état... Fait
Les paquets suivants seront mis à jour :
  iceweasel iceweasel-l10n-fr
2 mis à jour, 0 nouvellement installés, 0 à enlever et 0 non mis à jour.
Il est nécessaire de prendre 40,1 Mo dans les archives.
Après cette opération, 1 075 ko d'espace disque supplémentaires seront utilisés.
Souhaitez-vous continuer [O/n] ? O
ATTENTION : les paquets suivants n'ont pas été authentifiés.
  iceweasel-l10n-fr iceweasel
Faut-il installer ces paquets sans vérification (o/N) ? N
E: Certains paquets n'ont pas pu être authentifiés

~$ apt-cache policy iceweasel
iceweasel:
  Installé : 35.0.1-1~bpo70+1
  Candidat : 36.0-1~bpo70+1
 Table de version :
 36.0-1~bpo70+1 0
500 http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports/iceweasel-release amd64 
Packages
 *** 35.0.1-1~bpo70+1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 31.4.0esr-1~deb7u1 0
500 http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates/main amd64 Packages
 31.3.0esr-1~deb7u1 0
500 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages
---

Voilà donc que le dépôt http://mozilla.debian.net me propose bien
une mise à jour du paquet iceweasel mais celui-ci, si je comprends
bien, ne serait pas signé via la clé privée APT du dépôt.

On est d'accord que ce n'est pas « normal » ?
Que faut-il faire ? Simplement attendre et procéder à l'installation
le jour où le paquet sera bien signé ?

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Re: running kodi (xmbc) on debian

2015-02-25 Thread Michael Fothergill
​On 2015-02-22 07:24:31 PM, Michael Fothergill wrote:
 I notice that you can run something called kodi on linux that allows TV
 channel shows to be downloaded and watched on your PC.

Last time I looked at this, which was admittedly awhile ago, it was
downloading these shows from a TV torrent site. This sort of task is not
something that you need XBMC/Kodi for, and I found their implementation
of it very lacking. I ended up using transmission and an rss feed to do
the same thing but without XBMC/Kodi mucking things up.

 You could however, try what they call freesat and run that in conjunction
 with either chromecast, netflix or Amazon instant video.

 But I think at least in principle, a lot of the free stuff you could get
 with freesat you could find online via kodi, and (if I understand it
 correctly) if you used e.g. Amazon instant video there would be a way to
 access it via kodi along with the free stuff.

For whatever reason, Netflix and Amazon video only seem to work happily
inside of a browser these days. I know that in the past Netflix
explicitly didn't work on Linux, and required doing some virtualization
if you wanted to use it. I still don't know if they will stream HD to a
Linux box. In the end, I decided that downloading was better than
streaming.

 I read somewhere online that if you ran Amazon instant video via kodi on
 your PC it wouldn't allow you to get HD channels for security reasons but
 you could get the HD channels if you used the Amazon fire box.

Just FYI, Amazon also blocks HD if you try to play it through the
Chromecast.

 For me at any rate, it seems that if you have a pc and a TV then you
should
 not need a TV box.

 I am interested to know a couple of things.

 Has anyone tried using e.g. kodi and Amazon instant video in the debian
 world, and, what other software other than kodi are people currently
using?

I've been using Debian's XBMC on an old laptop connected to the TV for a
long time. *Mostly* it works really well and is much better than any
commercial product I've used.

That said, the XBMC version that comes with Debian is old, and a lot of
the scripts in the XBMC repository don't apply to it. I installed Kodi a
couple weeks ago, but eventually got rid of it because it wasn't getting
along with Xmonad. In my time using it, I still noticed some of the
scripts were broken or just low quality, and required digging through
forum posts in order to make them work.

I think that a lot of the HTPC software tries to hide the fact that it's
running on a computer, or encourages you to never leave its own
interface. I think that this is a mistake. I use XBMC to access a nice
list of video on a media server. I use mpd to listen to music. I use a
web browser to watch web videos. I use a console to launch emulators. I
control everything with a IR reciever, a logitech harmony remote, and a
wireless keyboard.

​From reading your responses, it seems to me that if I subscribe to Amazon
Instant Video
and then hook up my TV via HMDI as in effect a monitor for the pc and load
up the browser
I should be able to watch the channels effectively on the TV.

The mouse I use is wireless so I reckon I could choose the channels with
that.
So I would not need the IR receiver or a remote etc.

The xbmc does not seem much better than freesat.  I think a freesat box
plus the Amazon through the browser would work for me.

Thanks.

MF



Hope this helps,
MM​



 wireless keyboard.

 Hope this helps,
 MM



Re: Docbook and Debian - migration from DSSL to XSL stylesheets

2015-02-25 Thread Markos

On 24-02-2015 09:37, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

On Ter, 24 Fev 2015, Markos wrote:

Hi,

Over the past eight years I have been using Docbook in Debian 5.0 and 
6.0 with the script jw.


I received an information that the script jw uses DSSSL stylesheets 
and that it is obsolete and limited.


Would be better to migrate to XSL-based system and use XSL stylesheets.

But I'm just a user of Docbook with jw script (a handy tool) and 
don't know the structure of the DocBook files and programs.


Does anyone could suggest a step by step for me to do this migration?

Should I have to migrate to newer versions of Debian or just install 
some packages in my Debian Squeeze?


What output format do you want? For HTML, simply running a XSLT 
processor (such as the one in package xsltproc) against the stylesheet 
(contained in package docbook-xsl for Docbook 5 or docbook-xsl-ns for 
Docbook 5) is enough. See  the documentation for the packages for a 
list of available stylesheets.


For other formats I cannot help you much, but I believe the first step 
is similar: use a stylesheet to convert the docboock source to an 
intermediate format, which is then processed by specific tools to 
generate the final output.



Hi Eduardo,

I saw that there is a lot of information in the tutorial:
http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/index.html

I already have many documents sources with which I've been using the 
script jw to output in html.


Could you possibly give me some tips on how to use the xlstproc in 
Debian Squeeze?


For example, I saw that there is a package:

xsltproc - XSLT 1.0 command line processor

I think that I should install this package: apt-get install xsltproc

What else?

And what changes I should do in the header of my source documents?

At the moment they are:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1?
!DOCTYPE article PUBLIC -//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN
/usr/share/sgml/docbook/xml-dtd-4.1.2/docbookx.dtd

And what command I should run to generate the html files?

Thanks,
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Re: Docbook and Debian - migration from DSSL to XSL stylesheets

2015-02-25 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On Qua, 25 Fev 2015, Markos wrote:
Could you possibly give me some tips on how to use the xlstproc in  
Debian Squeeze?


The man page has all the details, but it is pretty simple anyway.


I think that I should install this package: apt-get install xsltproc


Yes. And also the package with the XSL stylesheets, which, for Docbook  
4, is docbook-xsl.



And what changes I should do in the header of my source documents?


None. Unless you would want to update to a newer version, but that is  
not necessary. And it would need more changes than simply the header.



And what command I should run to generate the html files?


Again, man xsltproc has the details, but basically something like

xsltproc /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/docbook-xsl/xhtml/chunk.xsl  
file.xml


There are other stylesheets, such as for HTML 4, XHTML 1.1, and also  
stylesheets that output everything in a single html file. See the  
documentation under /usr/share/doc/docbook-xsl for more details.

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Re: Extraño error en la mysql

2015-02-25 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 25 Feb 2015 12:00:55 -0300, Fabián Bonetti escribió:

 On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:49:17 + (UTC)
 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Si busque claro... los problemas frecuentes segun sus desarrolladores es
 cuando falla el sistema de archivos.
 
 http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/error-creating-innodb.html

Interesante. Dice es que dependiendo de cuándo se produce el error de i/o 
la causa puede variar y en tu caso parece ser que se da al iniciar el 
motor de la bdd:

150224 18:23:19 mysqld_safe Starting mysqld daemon with databases from 
/media/Disco160/www/bd/mysql

Además de probar lo que comentan, podrías mover la base de datos a otro 
medio para ver si desaparecen los mensajes de error.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:37:36 Petter Adsen wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:07:35 -0500

 Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 10:41:30 Petter Adsen wrote:
   On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:00:01 -0500
  
   Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 05:11:51 Curt wrote:
 On 2015-02-25, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
  CUPS has not provided information about them them because it
  gets its information from the Duplex option in the PPD file.
  The brother PPD does not provide such an option. There is no
  bug.

 Then I can't understand why Gene said he could print a test
 page in duplex using the brother PPD after setting the duplex
 option as a default in the web interface.
   
I don't recall saying that. I can duplex print if I use one of the
foomatic postscript drivers, but of the ones I have tried,
everyone works, and then crashes the printer so it has to be
powerdown reset to retre it for the next job.
   
May I remind everyone that the cups test page is ONE page, and
therefore cannot, will not, exercise the duplex functions. A 2
page test page would be handier than bottled beer for
troubleshooting this, but we don't have one
  
   I just tested printing from a Jessie VM here on my Epson printer.
   When set to duplex, it pulls the page back in, and then spits it
   out again, although it hasn't printed anything on the back. When I
   tried from an OpenSUSE VM, it actually printed on both sides.
  
   Attached, if the server lets it through.
 
  It did, and it was opened by kghostview for display when I
  dbl-clicked on it.
 
  kghostview's printer dialog can see AND adjust the options. I left
  the default long edge binding duplex setting in place and printed it,
  AND IT WORKED!

 Yay! Congratulations! :-) I guess that counts as progress :)

  But that printer dialog is obviously not one of the two I have been
  dealing with here. It is TDEPrint , and appears to work exactly as
  expected.

 Odd that the others don't.

  So we have now learned that it can work on wheezy, if the right
  printer dialog issues the command to (cups version) lp.
 
  Do we still have the group in denial?
 
  Now, if I can determine from the help screens of the other print
  dialogs and determine what their names are, I can begin to file
  meaningful bugs.

 I opened the file here, in evince and launced the print dialog. From
 what I can see the dialog is not a separate process, so maybe you could
 try filing a bug against whatever application you are trying to print
 from that fails, with a note that it works from kghostview/TDE?

That will have to wait, I need to get some laundry done and take a shower etc, 
as I have an appointment with a Moh's surgeon to take a look at a sore on my 
nose tomorrow afternoon.  It is not the first time, and unless I fall over 
before spring, probably not the last time.  One of the nuisance of being a 
white caucasion I guess.  And my speil checker has gone away. I don't 
remember leaving the gate open. ;)

   Petter
 
  Thank you Petter, it was and is, a valuable tool for testing.  I
  appreciate it.
  Cheers, Gene Heskett

 You are very welcome - glad it helped! :)

 Petter

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 10:16:12 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:

 
 
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 08:16:27 Brian wrote:
 
  evince and okular show duplex as not available, not as disabled.
 
  The cups test page is a single page. When duplex is on on my printer
  the sheet is pulled back in after one side is printed. Then it is
  ejected. The other side is blank of course.
 
 I have never seen this printer do such a wasted motion. The test page, a 
 single page, is ejected completely.

I have a working duplex setup; you do not. (Sorry, couldn't resist :) )


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:27:42 Brian wrote:
 On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 10:16:12 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 08:16:27 Brian wrote:
   evince and okular show duplex as not available, not as disabled.
  
   The cups test page is a single page. When duplex is on on my printer
   the sheet is pulled back in after one side is printed. Then it is
   ejected. The other side is blank of course.
 
  I have never seen this printer do such a wasted motion. The test page, a
  single page, is ejected completely.

 I have a working duplex setup; you do not. (Sorry, couldn't resist :) )

Yes I do, and the single page test page is ejected straight out, no double 
shuffle at all.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 16:07:35 Gene Heskett wrote:
 But that printer dialog is obviously not one of the two I have been dealing
 with here. It is TDEPrint , and appears to work exactly as expected.

 So we have now learned that it can work on wheezy, if the right printer
 dialog issues the command to (cups version) lp.

I stand corrected!  Long live TDE.  Have you tried kpdf from TDE?  (I think I 
suggested it before.)

You could also - if your exploration allows the installation of other 
software - install kword-trinity, run it (once it is installed it is just 
called kword - or KWord) and import (not open) a pdf document with duplex.  
Then see if you can print it OK.  When importing a pdf document you have to 
set the drop down menu filter to pdf or it will think you are trying to get 
it to import gibberish.

You will need the blank document template, and patience.  It is unreasonably 
slow in opening up.

Let me know how it goes - I am dying to know.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:49:13 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 15:29:11 Brian wrote:
  On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 15:03:31 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
   On Wednesday 25 February 2015 14:46:36 Brian wrote:
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 15:27:44 +0100, Petter Adsen wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:03:17 +

 I have a 14.10 machine right here, and there is no driver for his
 printer there. I've checked.
   
Not surprising; the licence for the Brother software doesn't permit
distribution.
  
   Then it can't have been in Lucid either, surely?
 
  I imagine not. That was my point.
 
The lack of advice on the HL-3170CDW at openprinting is an indication
that no user of it has added any, not a judgement on whether it works
on Linux.
  
   Yes, but if there had been advice it woudl have been useful.
 
  Of course.
 
   So do you agree with Gene that it is a Wheezy bug?
 
  That's a big jump from what I said. And what bug is it you are talking
  about? There have been a number of assertions in this thread. None lead
  me to think that Wheezy is heading for imminent breakdown on the printing
  front. :)

 I htink that it is a case of watch this space!!  TDE may yet save the day.

 Lisi
I wonder what my chances of creating some softlinks and making the rest of the 
system use it?  Bears a closer look for sure.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 16:58:25 Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:47:35 Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 16:07:35 Gene Heskett wrote:
   But that printer dialog is obviously not one of the two I have been
   dealing with here. It is TDEPrint , and appears to work exactly as
   expected.
  
   So we have now learned that it can work on wheezy, if the right printer
   dialog issues the command to (cups version) lp.
 
  I stand corrected!  Long live TDE.  Have you tried kpdf from TDE?  (I
  think I suggested it before.)
 
  You could also - if your exploration allows the installation of other
  software - install kword-trinity, run it (once it is installed it is just
  called kword - or KWord) and import (not open) a pdf document with
  duplex. Then see if you can print it OK.  When importing a pdf document
  you have to set the drop down menu filter to pdf or it will think you are
  trying to get it to import gibberish.
 
  You will need the blank document template, and patience.  It is
  unreasonably slow in opening up.
 
  Let me know how it goes - I am dying to know.
 
  Lisi

 That also uses TDEPrint, and it also works.

That's what I hoped and why I suggested it.  Yay TDE!!  Yay old codgers of 
every variety? ;-)

At least you can now print and don't need to throw away your printer. :-)

Lisi


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 10:00:01 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:

 May I remind everyone that the cups test page is ONE page, and therefore 
 cannot, will not, exercise the duplex functions. A 2 page test page would be 
 handier than bottled beer for troubleshooting this, but we don't have one

/etc/X11/Xsession is an excellent 2 page test page. Recommended.


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Questions sur l'utilisation de KVM/Qemu sur un serveur

2015-02-25 Thread Olivier
Bonjour,

J'ai une machine serveur sous Jessie.
Elle n'a pas d'environnement graphique.

Je souhaite y installer des machines virtuelles avec KVM/qemu.
Certaines de ces machines auront un environnement graphique (linux ou windows).
D'autres pas.



1. Dans mes premiers essais, j'essaie d'installer une VM Jessie sans
interface graphique en ligne de commande. Voici ce que j'obtiens:

$ virt-install --connect qemu:///system --name SecondVM --ram 512
--cdrom=/var/lib/libvirt/images/debian-jessie-DI-rc1-i386-netinst.iso
--disk path=/home/foobar/VirtualMachines/SecondVM.qcow2,size=10
--network bridge=br0
WARNING  CDROM media does not print to the text console by default, so
you likely will not see text install output. You might want to use
--location.

Starting install...
Creating domain...
  |0 B 00:00
Connected to domain SecondVM
Escape character is ^]


Ceci me laisse perplexe.
Comment faire pour accéder aux écrans de l'installeur debian ?
En lisant le contenu de man virt-install, je ne vois pas quelle
valeur donnerau paramètre --location recommandé.

En tapant ^] (ie Ctrl + ]), j'obtiens:
)Domain installation still in progress. You can reconnect to
the console to complete the installation process.

... mais je ne sais pas comment me reconnecter à la console.


2. Compte tenu de mon environnement, me sera-t-il bien possible
d'accéder par le réseau à une VM sous Windows ?


3. J'envisage d'utiliser LVM pour gérer les disques des VM.
J'ai créé pour cela un groupe de volume dédié.
Mon objectif est de pouvoir faire facilement des snapshots via virt-manager.
Est-ce la bonne approche ?
Que conseillez-vous ?


4. A plus long terme, que pensez d'outils comme Vagrant ou VeeWee pour
créer et gérer des VM ?

Slts

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 09:54:04 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:

 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 04:46:46 Brian wrote:
 
  The duplex facilities are not available for any application using the
  GTK or Qt print dialogues because CUPS has not provided information
  about them.
 
  CUPS has not provided information about them them because it gets its
  information from the Duplex option in the PPD file. The brother PPD does
  not provide such an option. There is no bug.

 I'll argue that point, something has changed between wheezy and lucid that is 
 now causing the bug.

You can dispute it as much as you want but I am sitting in front of a
machine running ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386 with a print queue set up
for an HL-3170CDW with Brother's packages. The GTK print dialogue shows
Two-sided printing as Not available. Does your setup show something
different?
 
 Yes it (the Brother PPD, read it, attached if the server will pass it) does 
 AND cups CAN select it, so why cannot the rest of the system make use of it?

 Question:  How can I show this dialogue interchange between cups and the GTK 
 or Qt print dialogs?

You have described the result of the interchange below.
 
 A Clue and the only one I have ATM:
 These options become unghosted and selectable in both of the print dialogs IF 
 the two characters 'BR' are removed from all those strings in the Brother 
 ppd.  But then, despite being able to select them in the print dialogs, it 
 still does  _not_ work.  BTDT about 3 times now.  So that 'patch' is 
 incomplete because the printer does not (apparently) understand it with the 
 BR's removed.  It did work, has worked for about 2 years now, and the 
 firmware in the printer has not been changed after the initial reload two 
 years ago.
 
  The inability to print in duplex is not related to the greying-out in
  the print dialogues.

You didn't comment on this but I'll add that the greying-out is a
red herring (as is the invoking of poppler) as far as the cause of your
problem with duplex printing is concerned.


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Sobre conexion a X11

2015-02-25 Thread Lic. Manuel Salgado
Saludos a todos los colegas:
He montado un Ubuntu 14.10 Edicion Mate. Necesito poder conectarme a
otros servidores X11 que corren debian squeeze y/o wheezy. Necesito
hacerlo con la especificidad que no sea necesario que haya usuarios
conectados o logueados en el sistema remoto. Alguien me puede dar una
ayuda de como hacerlo?

Muchas gracias por adelantado


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 15:29:11 Brian wrote:
 On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 15:03:31 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 14:46:36 Brian wrote:
   On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 15:27:44 +0100, Petter Adsen wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:03:17 +
   
I have a 14.10 machine right here, and there is no driver for his
printer there. I've checked.
  
   Not surprising; the licence for the Brother software doesn't permit
   distribution.
 
  Then it can't have been in Lucid either, surely?

 I imagine not. That was my point.

   The lack of advice on the HL-3170CDW at openprinting is an indication
   that no user of it has added any, not a judgement on whether it works
   on Linux.
 
  Yes, but if there had been advice it woudl have been useful.

 Of course.

  So do you agree with Gene that it is a Wheezy bug?

 That's a big jump from what I said. And what bug is it you are talking
 about? There have been a number of assertions in this thread. None lead
 me to think that Wheezy is heading for imminent breakdown on the printing
 front. :)

I htink that it is a case of watch this space!!  TDE may yet save the day.

Lisi


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:47:35 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 16:07:35 Gene Heskett wrote:
  But that printer dialog is obviously not one of the two I have been
  dealing with here. It is TDEPrint , and appears to work exactly as
  expected.
 
  So we have now learned that it can work on wheezy, if the right printer
  dialog issues the command to (cups version) lp.

 I stand corrected!  Long live TDE.  Have you tried kpdf from TDE?  (I think
 I suggested it before.)

 You could also - if your exploration allows the installation of other
 software - install kword-trinity, run it (once it is installed it is just
 called kword - or KWord) and import (not open) a pdf document with duplex.
 Then see if you can print it OK.  When importing a pdf document you have to
 set the drop down menu filter to pdf or it will think you are trying to get
 it to import gibberish.

 You will need the blank document template, and patience.  It is
 unreasonably slow in opening up.

 Let me know how it goes - I am dying to know.

 Lisi

That also uses TDEPrint, and it also works.

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Re: Extraño error en la mysql

2015-02-25 Thread Felix Perez
El día 25 de febrero de 2015, 12:00, Fabián Bonetti
mama21m...@riseup.net escribió:
 On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:49:17 + (UTC)
 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:


 Si busque claro... los problemas frecuentes segun sus desarrolladores es 
 cuando falla el sistema de archivos.

 http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.5/en/error-creating-innodb.html

Lo que me llama la atención es la línea:

150224 18:23:19 InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size = 5.0M

En mi equipo de pruebas y con MariaDB me marca size=128M  Digo esto
porque es lo la última acción antes de ejecutar el error.

Suerte








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Re: Extraño error en la mysql

2015-02-25 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:18:48 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:


Intendente reparar con una variable en la config  
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/forcing-innodb-recovery.html

Pero hubo cero éxito.

También probé con el comando  
http://egil.biz/how-to-recover-mysql-data-from-innodb/
/usr/sbin/mysqld –innodb_log_file_size=5242880 –innodb_force_recovery=6

Tambien hubo cero éxito.

Opte ya que tenia backup de purgar y remover el paquete mysql-server.

Luego de eso removí los archivos donde esta mi carpeta de trabajo de mysql.

 ibdata1 [este tenia mas de 5gb]
 ib_logfile0
 ib_logfile1
 debian-5.5.flag

Luego instale el paquete nuevamente y meti mis backup. Y revivio la MySQL.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Petter Adsen
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:07:35 -0500
Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 
 
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 10:41:30 Petter Adsen wrote:
  On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:00:01 -0500
 
  Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
   On Wednesday 25 February 2015 05:11:51 Curt wrote:
On 2015-02-25, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 CUPS has not provided information about them them because it
 gets its information from the Duplex option in the PPD file.
 The brother PPD does not provide such an option. There is no
 bug.
   
Then I can't understand why Gene said he could print a test
page in duplex using the brother PPD after setting the duplex
option as a default in the web interface.
  
   I don't recall saying that. I can duplex print if I use one of the
   foomatic postscript drivers, but of the ones I have tried,
   everyone works, and then crashes the printer so it has to be
   powerdown reset to retre it for the next job.
  
   May I remind everyone that the cups test page is ONE page, and
   therefore cannot, will not, exercise the duplex functions. A 2
   page test page would be handier than bottled beer for
   troubleshooting this, but we don't have one
 
  I just tested printing from a Jessie VM here on my Epson printer.
  When set to duplex, it pulls the page back in, and then spits it
  out again, although it hasn't printed anything on the back. When I
  tried from an OpenSUSE VM, it actually printed on both sides.
 
  Attached, if the server lets it through.
 
 It did, and it was opened by kghostview for display when I
 dbl-clicked on it.
 
 kghostview's printer dialog can see AND adjust the options. I left
 the default long edge binding duplex setting in place and printed it,
 AND IT WORKED!

Yay! Congratulations! :-) I guess that counts as progress :)

 But that printer dialog is obviously not one of the two I have been
 dealing with here. It is TDEPrint , and appears to work exactly as
 expected.

Odd that the others don't.

 So we have now learned that it can work on wheezy, if the right
 printer dialog issues the command to (cups version) lp.
 
 Do we still have the group in denial?
 
 Now, if I can determine from the help screens of the other print
 dialogs and determine what their names are, I can begin to file
 meaningful bugs.

I opened the file here, in evince and launced the print dialog. From
what I can see the dialog is not a separate process, so maybe you could
try filing a bug against whatever application you are trying to print
from that fails, with a note that it works from kghostview/TDE?

  Petter
 Thank you Petter, it was and is, a valuable tool for testing.  I
 appreciate it.
 Cheers, Gene Heskett

You are very welcome - glad it helped! :)

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Re: Extraño error en la mysql

2015-02-25 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:32:04 -0300, Fabián Bonetti escribió:

 On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:18:48 + (UTC)
 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Intendente reparar con una variable en la config 
 http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/forcing-innodb-recovery.html
 
 Pero hubo cero éxito.
 
 También probé con el comando 
 http://egil.biz/how-to-recover-mysql-data-from-innodb/
 /usr/sbin/mysqld –innodb_log_file_size=5242880 –innodb_force_recovery=6
 
 Tambien hubo cero éxito.
 
 Opte ya que tenia backup de purgar y remover el paquete mysql-server.

Ten en cuenta que nada de eso aliviaría un error en el sistema de 
archivos o en el medio físico (partición/disco) donde tengas la bdd.

 Luego de eso removí los archivos donde esta mi carpeta de trabajo de
 mysql.
 
  ibdata1 [este tenia mas de 5gb]
  ib_logfile0 ib_logfile1 debian-5.5.flag
 
 Luego instale el paquete nuevamente y meti mis backup. Y revivio la
 MySQL.

Pues me alegra que te sirviera lo que decían en la KB que pasaste, pero 
vigila ese medio porque si te está fallando el sistema de archivos o el 
disco duro el error te volverá a aparecer tarde o temprano (pasar el 
smartctl extendido no estaría de más).

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Re: Extraño error en la mysql

2015-02-25 Thread Felix Perez
El día 25 de febrero de 2015, 13:32, Fabián Bonetti
mama21m...@riseup.net escribió:
 On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 16:18:48 + (UTC)
 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:


 Intendente reparar con una variable en la config  
 http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/forcing-innodb-recovery.html

 Pero hubo cero éxito.

 También probé con el comando  
 http://egil.biz/how-to-recover-mysql-data-from-innodb/
 /usr/sbin/mysqld –innodb_log_file_size=5242880 –innodb_force_recovery=6

 Tambien hubo cero éxito.

 Opte ya que tenia backup de purgar y remover el paquete mysql-server.

 Luego de eso removí los archivos donde esta mi carpeta de trabajo de mysql.

  ibdata1 [este tenia mas de 5gb]
  ib_logfile0
  ib_logfile1
  debian-5.5.flag

 Luego instale el paquete nuevamente y meti mis backup. Y revivio la MySQL.


Creo que apoyo la idea de error de disco. ¿Pasa lo mismo con MariaDB?


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 17:58:21 Gene Heskett wrote:
 First yahbut is that kmail las lost its speller, and 2nd, seems to have a
 limited memory for filter rules, I have had to remake 7 or 8 so far today
 that were working perfectly yesterday but have disappeared from the filter
 menu since.

 I don't recall ever having a problem like this in kmail, ever.

Had you considered hardware?  CMOS battery or something?

I have never had those problems either.

Lisi


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:13:26 Lisi Reisz wrote:
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 16:58:25 Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 11:47:35 Lisi Reisz wrote:
   On Wednesday 25 February 2015 16:07:35 Gene Heskett wrote:
But that printer dialog is obviously not one of the two I have been
dealing with here. It is TDEPrint , and appears to work exactly as
expected.
   
So we have now learned that it can work on wheezy, if the right
printer dialog issues the command to (cups version) lp.
  
   I stand corrected!  Long live TDE.  Have you tried kpdf from TDE?  (I
   think I suggested it before.)
  
   You could also - if your exploration allows the installation of other
   software - install kword-trinity, run it (once it is installed it is
   just called kword - or KWord) and import (not open) a pdf document with
   duplex. Then see if you can print it OK.  When importing a pdf document
   you have to set the drop down menu filter to pdf or it will think you
   are trying to get it to import gibberish.
  
   You will need the blank document template, and patience.  It is
   unreasonably slow in opening up.
  
   Let me know how it goes - I am dying to know.
  
   Lisi
 
  That also uses TDEPrint, and it also works.

 That's what I hoped and why I suggested it.  Yay TDE!!  Yay old codgers of
 every variety? ;-)

 At least you can now print and don't need to throw away your printer. :-)

 Lisi
A definit plus and a couple of yahbuts, I have now tried okular and evince, 
which do not use a printer dialog proud enough to have a help screen or name, 
neither can adjust the duplex settings, but both have now printed the 2 page 
test page correctly duplexed.  We seem to have plunked the magic twanger in 
the right key.

First yahbut is that kmail las lost its speller, and 2nd, seems to have a 
limited memory for filter rules, I have had to remake 7 or 8 so far today 
that were working perfectly yesterday but have disappeared from the filter 
menu since.

I don't recall ever having a problem like this in kmail, ever.

I think I'll restart it just for SG.
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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 19:33:40 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:

 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 19:19:28 Brian wrote:
 
  The OP declared he was using Wheezy and KDE. TDE is now part of Wheezy?
 
  That's all apart from the assertion that TDE can communicate with CUPS
  in some manner unknown to Wheezy. Can we call it Magic; the normal
  operation of programs alters when TDE springs into action.
 
 No, of course not Brian.  You may prefer KDE4, and you may prefer only to use 
 main, contrib and nonfree, but there isn't any law about it, there's no need 
 to mock those who use other software, and it certainly isn't magic.  It 
 clearly isn't Wheezy that is the problem, but that has been obvious from the 
 beginning.  It may be Okular and Evince.  The printer seems to work anyway.

I use fvwm, if it is of any interest or significance. I use cups; users
with other WMs or DEs also use cups. There is is no mocking, simply a
question - does cups work in the same way in all these environments? If
it doesn't we can throw determinism away.

I agree, Wheezy isn't the problem. Does TDE solve the problem? The answer
to the question in the first paragraph might determine your response.

Now - if Wheezy isn't the problem, where can the solution be found?
Importing software from elsewhere into Wheezy dosen't seem quite right.


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Re: Extraño error en la mysql

2015-02-25 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:07:47 -0300
Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com wrote:


Solo tengo mysql.

Esto paso cuando se corto la electricidad abruptamente.

Y el sistema no se cerro. 

El disco usa sistema de archivo ext3.

Si fuera error de disco el kernel me volvería loco.

Ya que el disco constantemente tiene actividad.






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2015-02-25 Thread German
Hi list, can't mount my usb drive. It seems it is corrupted. I tried to run 
ntfsfix and here is its ouput:
digger@digger:~$ sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdc1
Mounting volume... ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error
Failed to read of MFT, mft=17625 count=1 br=-1: Input/output error
Inode is corrupt (5): Input/output error
Index root attribute missing in directory inode 5: Input/output error
FAILED
Attempting to correct errors... 
Processing $MFT and $MFTMirr...
Reading $MFT... OK
Reading $MFTMirr... OK
Comparing $MFTMirr to $MFT... OK
Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
Setting required flags on partition... OK
Going to empty the journal ($LogFile)... OK
ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error
Failed to read of MFT, mft=17625 count=1 br=-1: Input/output error
Inode is corrupt (5): Input/output error
Index root attribute missing in directory inode 5: Input/output error
Remount failed: Input/output error


If anyone can suggest how I can recover my drive and what is exactly a problem, 
I'd appreciate it. Thanks


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Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Bret Busby wrote:
 In trying to use a standard Debian installer iso, and booting into
 rescue mode, I got toa screen select partition into which to install
 the root system, or words to that effect.

Does it say Rescue mode in the corner?  It should.

Here is the official documentation for it:

  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html.en

But that is fairly terse.  Let me say that the rescue mode looks just
like the install mode initially.  It will ask you keyboard and locale
questions and you might wonder if you are rescuing or installing!  But
it will have Rescue in the corners so that you can tell and be
assured.  Get the tool set up with keyboard, locale, timezone, and
similar and eventually it will give you a menu with a list of actions.

  Advanced options...
  Rescue mode
  keyboard
  ...starts networking...
  hostname
  domainname
  ...apt update release files...
  ...loading additional components, Retrieving udebs...
  ...detecting disks...

Then eventually it will get to a menu Enter rescue mode that will
ask what device to use as a root file system.  It will list the
partitions that it has automatically detected.  (If you have raid or
lvm then it will list options for those.  If not then just the simple
disks.)  Select the appropriate partition from the list.  Then
continue.  At that point it presents a menu Execute a shell in
/dev/  That is what you want.  That should get you a shell on
your system with everything needed mounted.

 I have 13 partitions, and that screen does not provide any
 information, such as labels or filesystem types, for the partitions,
 so I have to figure out which is the appropriate partition to use as
 the root system. It does not indicate anything like A previous Debian
 installation was found in partition x, so you might want to use this
 partition.

If you truly don't know then you will have to look at them
individually and figure it out.

 So, I have to remove the disk with that iso image, boot with a LiveCD
 disk, and, examine the partitions.

Of course using the livecd is fine too.  But since you were right
there ready to look already it is a shame to have to reboot and wait
for the much longer boot time from the live cd.

You can do it from rescue-mode right then, figure it out, then select
that partition that you determined to be the right one.  Simply select
the option to execute a shell in the installer environment and then
browse.

By browsing I mean look at the partition type.  The partition type
will tell you which partitions are not swap.  Start at the top and
work down through the list.

  mount -o ro /dev/sda1 /mnt
  ls /mnt
  cat /mnt/etc/hostname
  cat /mnt/etc/debian_version
  umount /mnt

  mount -o ro /dev/sda2 /mnt
  ls /mnt
  cat /mnt/etc/hostname
  cat /mnt/etc/debian_version
  umount /mnt

  mount -o ro /dev/sda3 /mnt
  ls /mnt
  cat /mnt/etc/hostname
  cat /mnt/etc/debian_version
  umount /mnt

Eventually you should be able to figure out which is the root
partition.  Using that information select it from the rescue menu.

 The laptop computer, to which all of this appiles, whilst being (to
 me) a fairly powerful computer, has an inferior optical disk drive,
 that appears to be designed to be as diffiocult as possible, to
 manually open, often taking uip to 20-30 minutes, to get it to open
 manually, to remove or replace the removable optical disk.

And that is exactly why I wouldn't do it.  Sounds very painful.

I, like some of other commenters, if needing to do this would probably
resort to completely powering off the machine and ejecting the cdrom
using a paperclip.

 The Debian 7.8 installation iso image that I downloaded, both in the
 rescue mode, and, in the main menu, does not include an option Abort
 installation, at any step that I encountered, wherein, an Abort
 installation option, involves ejecting the removable media, and a
 message Remove the removable media and press ENTER to reboot.

I grabbed two screenshots from a VM test.  I will put them here for at
least a little while.  I should do something more organized later and
will probably move them after a while.

  http://www.proulx.com/~bob/debian/debian-installer-images/

The text of the menu will say:

  Device to use as root file system:
/dev/sda1
Assemble RAID array
Do not use a root file system
  Go Back

Press TAB to highlight the Go Back option and then Enter to select
it.  That will go back to the main menu.  The bottom of the main menu
shows the options Execute a shell (very useful) and also has the
menu option Abort the installation.

Scroll to the bottom and see that the last menu option is Abort the
installation.

 Why does the Debian standard installation iso image, not include an
 Abort installation option (at each screen, although, even, a single
 instantiation, on the primary menu, would help, by rebooting the
 system into that menu, to do it, if that is the only way to access
 that option), that would enable ejection of the 

Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Ric Moore

On 02/25/2015 10:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:



On Wednesday 25 February 2015 08:16:27 Brian wrote:

On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 12:58:50 +, Curt wrote:

On 2015-02-25, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:

I didn't understand him so to say. :-/  I thought that he said that he
couldn't print duplex at all at the moment.  If it isn't in the PPD
then that explains it.

Lisi


Gene said

  No change, both evince and okular show duplex as disabled. *I did set it
  in localhost:631/printers/printer/set defaults.  No problem there.  It
  will print a cups test page ok*, and the colors look ok in the wheel
  there.  But no other app can detect that it is duplex capable.


evince and okular show duplex as not available, not as disabled.

The cups test page is a single page. When duplex is on on my printer
the sheet is pulled back in after one side is printed. Then it is
ejected. The other side is blank of course.


I have never seen this printer do such a wasted motion. The test page, a
single page, is ejected completely.


Gene, maybe you need to haul that printer back to the station and use 
Windows to test duplex printing, just to be sure it isn't the printer. 
:) Ric




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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 19:19:28 Brian wrote:
 On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 18:48:38 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 18:37:47 Brian wrote:
   On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 11:07:35 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 10:41:30 Petter Adsen wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:00:01 -0500

 I just tested printing from a Jessie VM here on my Epson printer.
 When set to duplex, it pulls the page back in, and then spits it
 out again, although it hasn't printed anything on the back. When I
 tried from an OpenSUSE VM, it actually printed on both sides.

 Attached, if the server lets it through.
   
It did, and it was opened by kghostview for display when I
dbl-clicked on it.
  
   There is no kghostview package or executable in Wheezy. Following in
   your footsteps is fraught.
 
  He has TDE.  There is kghostview in Wheezy TDE.

 The OP declared he was using Wheezy and KDE. TDE is now part of Wheezy?

 That's all apart from the assertion that TDE can communicate with CUPS
 in some manner unknown to Wheezy. Can we call it Magic; the normal
 operation of programs alters when TDE springs into action.

No, of course not Brian.  You may prefer KDE4, and you may prefer only to use 
main, contrib and nonfree, but there isn't any law about it, there's no need 
to mock those who use other software, and it certainly isn't magic.  It 
clearly isn't Wheezy that is the problem, but that has been obvious from the 
beginning.  It may be Okular and Evince.  The printer seems to work anyway.

Lisi


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:36:19 Brian wrote:
 On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 09:54:04 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 04:46:46 Brian wrote:
   The duplex facilities are not available for any application using the
   GTK or Qt print dialogues because CUPS has not provided information
   about them.
  
   CUPS has not provided information about them them because it gets its
   information from the Duplex option in the PPD file. The brother PPD
   does not provide such an option. There is no bug.
 
  I'll argue that point, something has changed between wheezy and lucid
  that is now causing the bug.

 You can dispute it as much as you want but I am sitting in front of a
 machine running ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386 with a print queue set up
 for an HL-3170CDW with Brother's packages. The GTK print dialogue shows
 Two-sided printing as Not available. Does your setup show something
 different?


And the GTK dialog is used with which programs?  Likewise the QT4 version is 
used with which programs? At least one of them is not proud enough of its 
name to offer up its name up for  public view, or ridicule as the case might 
be.

  
  Yes it (the Brother PPD, read it, attached if the server will pass it)
  does AND cups CAN select it, so why cannot the rest of the system make
  use of it?
 
  Question:  How can I show this dialogue interchange between cups and the
  GTK or Qt print dialogs?

 You have described the result of the interchange below.

  A Clue and the only one I have ATM:
  These options become unghosted and selectable in both of the print
  dialogs IF the two characters 'BR' are removed from all those strings in
  the Brother ppd.  But then, despite being able to select them in the
  print dialogs, it still does  _not_ work.  BTDT about 3 times now.  So
  that 'patch' is incomplete because the printer does not (apparently)
  understand it with the BR's removed.  It did work, has worked for about 2
  years now, and the firmware in the printer has not been changed after the
  initial reload two years ago.
 
   The inability to print in duplex is not related to the greying-out in
   the print dialogues.

 You didn't comment on this but I'll add that the greying-out is a
 red herring (as is the invoking of poppler) as far as the cause of your
 problem with duplex printing is concerned.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 18:37:47 Brian wrote:
 On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 11:07:35 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 10:41:30 Petter Adsen wrote:
   On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:00:01 -0500
  
   I just tested printing from a Jessie VM here on my Epson printer. When
   set to duplex, it pulls the page back in, and then spits it out again,
   although it hasn't printed anything on the back. When I tried from an
   OpenSUSE VM, it actually printed on both sides.
  
   Attached, if the server lets it through.
 
  It did, and it was opened by kghostview for display when I dbl-clicked on
  it.

 There is no kghostview package or executable in Wheezy. Following in
 your footsteps is fraught.

He has TDE.  There is kghostview in Wheezy TDE.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 18:48:38 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:

 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 18:37:47 Brian wrote:
  On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 11:07:35 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
   On Wednesday 25 February 2015 10:41:30 Petter Adsen wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:00:01 -0500
   
I just tested printing from a Jessie VM here on my Epson printer. When
set to duplex, it pulls the page back in, and then spits it out again,
although it hasn't printed anything on the back. When I tried from an
OpenSUSE VM, it actually printed on both sides.
   
Attached, if the server lets it through.
  
   It did, and it was opened by kghostview for display when I dbl-clicked on
   it.
 
  There is no kghostview package or executable in Wheezy. Following in
  your footsteps is fraught.
 
 He has TDE.  There is kghostview in Wheezy TDE.

The OP declared he was using Wheezy and KDE. TDE is now part of Wheezy?

That's all apart from the assertion that TDE can communicate with CUPS
in some manner unknown to Wheezy. Can we call it Magic; the normal
operation of programs alters when TDE springs into action.


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 11:07:35 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:

 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 10:41:30 Petter Adsen wrote:
  On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:00:01 -0500
 
  I just tested printing from a Jessie VM here on my Epson printer. When
  set to duplex, it pulls the page back in, and then spits it out again,
  although it hasn't printed anything on the back. When I tried from an
  OpenSUSE VM, it actually printed on both sides.
 
  Attached, if the server lets it through.
 
 It did, and it was opened by kghostview for display when I dbl-clicked on it.

There is no kghostview package or executable in Wheezy. Following in
your footsteps is fraught.


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Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Ric Moore

On 02/25/2015 03:18 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:

On Wednesday 25 February 2015 06:00:58 Bret Busby wrote:

Why does the Debian standard installation iso image, not include an
Abort installation option (at each screen, although, even, a single
instantiation, on the primary menu, would help, by rebooting the
system into that menu, to do it, if that is the only way to access
that option), that would enable ejection of the removable media with
the iso image, instead of making this so difficult, to extract the
removable media with the iso image?


If someone just wants to abort the installation, why not just turn the PC off
and use a paperclip to remove the CD?


Try finding a paperclip when you need one nowadays! I have one in my 
mini toolkit just for that purpose. Ric




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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 13:00:54 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:

 
 
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:27:42 Brian wrote:
  On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 10:16:12 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
   On Wednesday 25 February 2015 08:16:27 Brian wrote:
evince and okular show duplex as not available, not as disabled.
   
The cups test page is a single page. When duplex is on on my printer
the sheet is pulled back in after one side is printed. Then it is
ejected. The other side is blank of course.
  
   I have never seen this printer do such a wasted motion. The test page, a
   single page, is ejected completely.
 
  I have a working duplex setup; you do not. (Sorry, couldn't resist :) )
 
 Yes I do, and the single page test page is ejected straight out, no double 
 shuffle at all.

You do? I expect you've found out how to set up the Brother software.


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Re: Extraño error en la mysql

2015-02-25 Thread Felix Perez
El día 25 de febrero de 2015, 15:48, Fabián Bonetti
mama21m...@riseup.net escribió:
 On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:07:47 -0300
 Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com wrote:


 Solo tengo mysql.

 Esto paso cuando se corto la electricidad abruptamente.

 Y el sistema no se cerro.

 El disco usa sistema de archivo ext3.

 Si fuera error de disco el kernel me volvería loco.

 Ya que el disco constantemente tiene actividad.




Pues no lo descartaría como una posibilidad, hace tiempo atrás me pasó
algo parecido y lo primero que dio señales fue una bd oracle XE,
finalmente el disco murió, lo cambiamos y hasta ahora ningún otro
problema.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:54:08 Brian wrote:
 On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 10:00:01 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
  May I remind everyone that the cups test page is ONE page, and
  therefore cannot, will not, exercise the duplex functions. A 2 page test
  page would be handier than bottled beer for troubleshooting this, but we
  don't have one

 /etc/X11/Xsession is an excellent 2 page test page. Recommended.

Now I am getting somewhere, I just printed the, double sided with
lp -dNetwork_printer /etc/X11/Xsession 

And with this command (after I re-enabled duplex long edge binding)
lp -dHL3170CDW /etc/X11/Xsession 

This is 2 separate cups printers, the first one is at an ip address on my 
local network, the latter one  is via the USB cable.

This printer also has a wifi interface, but I figured two ways to drive it was 
enough.  The ethernet data transfer phase is faster than the USB2.0, but its 
moot speedwise when using duplex mode as its 19 ppm speed when printing 
straight through drops to about 2 ppm in duplex mode due to all the internal 
paper shuffling.  I suspect that short edge binding would be faster as in the 
long edge mode I can hear the paper being shuffled around internally for many 
seconds before I actually hear it make another trip past the drums.

But did you ever go to staples and look for a 3 ring binder for landscape 
printouts? Or a paper punch that could be spaced for that?  Donbesilly.

Both are made out that elusive stuff called Pure Unobtainium.  I'm sure 
you've heard of the stuff. :)

Maybe in NYC or LA, but this is equ to West Podunk here in Weston WV.

Like any printer, it jams occasionally, and 99% of the time it instructs me to 
open the back door and remove the jam, but have never found anything to 
remove AND its sufficient to clear the jam if the door is opened far enough 
to be detected, and closed again.  But throw away that sheet of paper when it 
does come out because it will print you a 2nd, good copy of those 2 pages 
when it thinks its jammed or whatever.  In about 4000 pages so far, I have 
actually had to remove a crumpled up sheet of paper once.  We wore out 
several HP-4550's in the news dept at the tv station, years ago now, and they 
jammed much more frequently.  And didn't last the 100,000 pages they were 
rated for either.

Anyway, I have apparently made it work, its time to quite poking at it with a 
stick.  If okular and evince can now use it all the time, I am a happy 
camper, at least in this park.

A clue?  update-manager just installed about 6 packages, and 2 were iceweasal 
and cups-common, and it was cups-common that I filed the bug against.  But I 
had it working nominally 1 or 2 hours before the updates were done.  As a 
friend with Vermont roots says, Co-inky-dance.  :)

Thank you all for putting up with me.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 13:37:47 Brian wrote:
 On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 11:07:35 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 10:41:30 Petter Adsen wrote:
   On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:00:01 -0500
  
   I just tested printing from a Jessie VM here on my Epson printer. When
   set to duplex, it pulls the page back in, and then spits it out again,
   although it hasn't printed anything on the back. When I tried from an
   OpenSUSE VM, it actually printed on both sides.
  
   Attached, if the server lets it through.
 
  It did, and it was opened by kghostview for display when I dbl-clicked on
  it.

 There is no kghostview package or executable in Wheezy. Following in
 your footsteps is fraught.

That then must be a TDE addition. As related earlier, both kghostview and kpdf 
use the TDEPrint dialog, which worked, and now the others that I have checked 
also work.  The diff? It isn't ghosted out in TDEPrint, is in all the others.  
Except iceweasal, it always was able to set or clear the options if using 
localhost:631/printers to do it.

As before, thank you all that tried to help for the assistance.


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Re: Extraño error en la mysql

2015-02-25 Thread Manolo Díaz
El miércoles, 25 feb 2015, a las 21:24 UTC+1 horas,
Felix Perez escribió:

El día 25 de febrero de 2015, 15:48, Fabián Bonetti
mama21m...@riseup.net escribió:
 On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:07:47 -0300
 Felix Perez felix.listadeb...@gmail.com wrote:


 Solo tengo mysql.

 Esto paso cuando se corto la electricidad abruptamente.

 Y el sistema no se cerro.

 El disco usa sistema de archivo ext3.

 Si fuera error de disco el kernel me volvería loco.

 Ya que el disco constantemente tiene actividad.




Pues no lo descartaría como una posibilidad, hace tiempo atrás me pasó
algo parecido y lo primero que dio señales fue una bd oracle XE,
finalmente el disco murió, lo cambiamos y hasta ahora ningún otro
problema.

Suerte

Me uno a los que te aconsejan que compruebes el disco. El chequeo que
te ha sugerido Camaleón (smartctl extendido) se puede hacer mientras el
disco está en servicio.

Suerte
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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread David Wright
Quoting Gene Heskett (ghesk...@wdtv.com):
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 08:16:27 Brian wrote:
 
  The cups test page is a single page. When duplex is on on my printer
  the sheet is pulled back in after one side is printed. Then it is
  ejected. The other side is blank of course.
 
 I have never seen this printer do such a wasted motion. The test page, a 
 single page, is ejected completely.

If a printer is set to duplex and behaving correctly, any print job
with an odd number of pages should perform the wasted motion to turn
the page, otherwise the last page of the job is facing the wrong way.

Cheers,
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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Brian
On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 15:14:16 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:

 
 
 On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:36:19 Brian wrote:
  On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 09:54:04 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
   On Wednesday 25 February 2015 04:46:46 Brian wrote:
The duplex facilities are not available for any application using the
GTK or Qt print dialogues because CUPS has not provided information
about them.
   
CUPS has not provided information about them them because it gets its
information from the Duplex option in the PPD file. The brother PPD
does not provide such an option. There is no bug.
  
   I'll argue that point, something has changed between wheezy and lucid
   that is now causing the bug.
 
  You can dispute it as much as you want but I am sitting in front of a
  machine running ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386 with a print queue set up
  for an HL-3170CDW with Brother's packages. The GTK print dialogue shows
  Two-sided printing as Not available. Does your setup show something
  different?
 
 
 And the GTK dialog is used with which programs?  Likewise the QT4 version is 
 used with which programs? At least one of them is not proud enough of its 
 name to offer up its name up for  public view, or ridicule as the case might 
 be.

Let's have no more of this nonsense bydirecting attention away from the
major point of my previous mail. You stated in your second post in this
thread that

  I am not sure how ununtu-10.04.4 LTS did it but it Just Worked.

You have repeated that claim in other mails. Whatever Just Worked was
never specified. It certainly wasn't what I describe above - Two-sided
printing is marked as Not availablein the GTK and Qt print dialogue.

You can wriggle as much as you want, you have no evidence to back up
what you contend. Whatever you thought worked didn't.


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Re: Corrupted USB drive

2015-02-25 Thread Gary Dale

On 25/02/15 03:09 PM, German wrote:

Hi list, can't mount my usb drive. It seems it is corrupted. I tried to run 
ntfsfix and here is its ouput:
digger@digger:~$ sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdc1
Mounting volume... ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error
Failed to read of MFT, mft=17625 count=1 br=-1: Input/output error
Inode is corrupt (5): Input/output error
Index root attribute missing in directory inode 5: Input/output error
FAILED
Attempting to correct errors...
Processing $MFT and $MFTMirr...
Reading $MFT... OK
Reading $MFTMirr... OK
Comparing $MFTMirr to $MFT... OK
Processing of $MFT and $MFTMirr completed successfully.
Setting required flags on partition... OK
Going to empty the journal ($LogFile)... OK
ntfs_attr_pread_i: ntfs_pread failed: Input/output error
Failed to read of MFT, mft=17625 count=1 br=-1: Input/output error
Inode is corrupt (5): Input/output error
Index root attribute missing in directory inode 5: Input/output error
Remount failed: Input/output error


If anyone can suggest how I can recover my drive and what is exactly a problem, 
I'd appreciate it. Thanks



Testdisk might be able to help.


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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 14:15:43 Ric Moore wrote:
 On 02/25/2015 10:16 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 08:16:27 Brian wrote:
  On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 12:58:50 +, Curt wrote:
  On 2015-02-25, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  I didn't understand him so to say. :-/  I thought that he said that he
  couldn't print duplex at all at the moment.  If it isn't in the PPD
  then that explains it.
 
  Lisi
 
  Gene said
 
No change, both evince and okular show duplex as disabled. *I did set
  it in localhost:631/printers/printer/set defaults.  No problem there. 
  It will print a cups test page ok*, and the colors look ok in the wheel
  there.  But no other app can detect that it is duplex capable.
 
  evince and okular show duplex as not available, not as disabled.
 
  The cups test page is a single page. When duplex is on on my printer
  the sheet is pulled back in after one side is printed. Then it is
  ejected. The other side is blank of course.
 
  I have never seen this printer do such a wasted motion. The test page, a
  single page, is ejected completely.

 Gene, maybe you need to haul that printer back to the station and use
 Windows to test duplex printing, just to be sure it isn't the printer.

 :) Ric

Ric my old friend, everything has been working SINCE I printed the first time  
I printed that 2 page test page that Petter posted earlier, using TDEPrint as 
the dialog.  Since then, everything else that I have tried has worked too.

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 ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity.
 Only the former may be overcome. R.I.P. Dad.
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Re: Question about GRUB recovery using Debian 7.x LiveCD

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 14:08:12 Ric Moore wrote:
 On 02/25/2015 03:18 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 06:00:58 Bret Busby wrote:
  Why does the Debian standard installation iso image, not include an
  Abort installation option (at each screen, although, even, a single
  instantiation, on the primary menu, would help, by rebooting the
  system into that menu, to do it, if that is the only way to access
  that option), that would enable ejection of the removable media with
  the iso image, instead of making this so difficult, to extract the
  removable media with the iso image?
 
  If someone just wants to abort the installation, why not just turn the PC
  off and use a paperclip to remove the CD?

 Try finding a paperclip when you need one nowadays! I have one in my
 mini toolkit just for that purpose. Ric

I have one of those all purpose kits too.  Black, zipper closed and could 
hold 3 readers digests if cleaned out. So useless I have no clue where it may 
be today.  Grass Valley gave it out at the NAB a good 25 years ago. I haven't 
tossed it, packrat that I am.  It's here someplace.  And I do have my hand on 
a bible.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 14:08:29 Brian wrote:
 On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 13:00:54 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:27:42 Brian wrote:
   On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 10:16:12 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 08:16:27 Brian wrote:
 evince and okular show duplex as not available, not as
 disabled.

 The cups test page is a single page. When duplex is on on my
 printer the sheet is pulled back in after one side is printed. Then
 it is ejected. The other side is blank of course.
   
I have never seen this printer do such a wasted motion. The test
page, a single page, is ejected completely.
  
   I have a working duplex setup; you do not. (Sorry, couldn't resist :) )
 
  Yes I do, and the single page test page is ejected straight out, no
  double shuffle at all.

 You do? I expect you've found out how to set up the Brother software.

Thats eazy-peazy, it is ALL available to be fiddled with at 
localhost:631/printers select printer, click  on admin  scroll down  to set 
defaults.  I know how to setup this printer.  I've had it for 2 years now.

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Re: Okular vs printer, okular 1, printer 0

2015-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett


On Wednesday 25 February 2015 16:06:01 Brian wrote:
 On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 15:14:16 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
  On Wednesday 25 February 2015 12:36:19 Brian wrote:
   On Wed 25 Feb 2015 at 09:54:04 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Wednesday 25 February 2015 04:46:46 Brian wrote:
 The duplex facilities are not available for any application using
 the GTK or Qt print dialogues because CUPS has not provided
 information about them.

 CUPS has not provided information about them them because it gets
 its information from the Duplex option in the PPD file. The brother
 PPD does not provide such an option. There is no bug.
   
I'll argue that point, something has changed between wheezy and lucid
that is now causing the bug.
  
   You can dispute it as much as you want but I am sitting in front of a
   machine running ubuntu-10.04.4-desktop-i386 with a print queue set up
   for an HL-3170CDW with Brother's packages. The GTK print dialogue shows
   Two-sided printing as Not available. Does your setup show something
   different?
 
  And the GTK dialog is used with which programs?  Likewise the QT4 version
  is used with which programs? At least one of them is not proud enough of
  its name to offer up its name up for  public view, or ridicule as the
  case might be.

 Let's have no more of this nonsense bydirecting attention away from the
 major point of my previous mail. You stated in your second post in this
 thread that

   I am not sure how ununtu-10.04.4 LTS did it but it Just Worked.

 You have repeated that claim in other mails. Whatever Just Worked was
 never specified. It certainly wasn't what I describe above - Two-sided
 printing is marked as Not availablein the GTK and Qt print dialogue.

 You can wriggle as much as you want, you have no evidence to back up
 what you contend. Whatever you thought worked didn't.

Now you are calling me a liar.  Don't.  I can produce well over 1500 pages of 
documentation, 1000+ pages of it related to linuxcnc, all printed in duplex 
mode over the last 2 years as it gets dated and I throw it out and replace 
it.  Much of it with full color screen snapshots to illustrate the point 
being discussed in the text.  Drop by, and I will do 2 things, first putting 
some of those docs in your hands so that you can see I am NOT lying, and 
possibly put a very low cal hand cooler in your hand, or a cuppa coffee if 
thats your choice, while I show off some of the other things I do around 
here, some of which when out in public get lots of ooh's and ahh's.  Its what 
keeps me out of the bars.

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Re: Docbook and Debian - migration from DSSL to XSL stylesheets

2015-02-25 Thread Markos

On 25-02-2015 12:59, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

On Qua, 25 Fev 2015, Markos wrote:
Could you possibly give me some tips on how to use the xlstproc in 
Debian Squeeze?


The man page has all the details, but it is pretty simple anyway.


I think that I should install this package: apt-get install xsltproc


Yes. And also the package with the XSL stylesheets, which, for Docbook 
4, is docbook-xsl.



And what changes I should do in the header of my source documents?


None. Unless you would want to update to a newer version, but that is 
not necessary. And it would need more changes than simply the header.



And what command I should run to generate the html files?


Again, man xsltproc has the details, but basically something like

xsltproc /usr/share/xml/docbook/stylesheet/docbook-xsl/xhtml/chunk.xsl 
file.xml


There are other stylesheets, such as for HTML 4, XHTML 1.1, and also 
stylesheets that output everything in a single html file. See the 
documentation under /usr/share/doc/docbook-xsl for more details.


Hi Eduardo,

I intend to read carefully the tutorials (Ex: www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl)
to better understand DocBook XSL but at the moment I'm needing to 
generate html documents quickly.


And your tips worked.

Thank you very much.

Markos


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Re: Questions sur l'utilisation de KVM/Qemu sur un serveur

2015-02-25 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA

Bonjour,


Le mercredi 25 février 2015, Olivier a écrit...




 1. Dans mes premiers essais, j'essaie d'installer une VM Jessie sans
 interface graphique en ligne de commande. Voici ce que j'obtiens:

 $ virt-install --connect qemu:///system --name SecondVM --ram 512
 --cdrom=/var/lib/libvirt/images/debian-jessie-DI-rc1-i386-netinst.iso
 --disk path=/home/foobar/VirtualMachines/SecondVM.qcow2,size=10
 --network bridge=br0
 WARNING  CDROM media does not print to the text console by default, so
 you likely will not see text install output. You might want to use
 --location.

 Starting install...
 Creating domain...
   |0 B 00:00
 Connected to domain SecondVM
 Escape character is ^]


 Ceci me laisse perplexe.
 Comment faire pour accéder aux écrans de l'installeur debian ?
 En lisant le contenu de man virt-install, je ne vois pas quelle
 valeur donnerau paramètre --location recommandé.

 En tapant ^] (ie Ctrl + ]), j'obtiens:
 )Domain installation still in progress. You can reconnect to
 the console to complete the installation process.

 ... mais je ne sais pas comment me reconnecter à la console.

Avec vnc. Normalement, tu as un serveur vnc sur le port 5901 par défaut
pour une vm. Configurable dans le fichier .xml de la vm.

Par exemple :

graphics type='vnc' port='5910' autoport='no'/

Lorsque ta vm est active, tu peux configurer le /etc/default/grub de la
vm pour y accéder via `virsh console domaine`, en y mettant :

GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=text console=tty0 console=ttyS0,38400n8 noapic
nolapic
GRUB_TERMINAL=serial
GRUB_SERIAL_COMMAND=serial --speed=38400 --unit=0 --word=8 --parity=no
--stop=1

C'est plus pratique que le client/serveur vnc

 2. Compte tenu de mon environnement, me sera-t-il bien possible
 d'accéder par le réseau à une VM sous Windows ?

Joker. Windows, c'est quoi ? Bon, j'avais une vm avec un serveur TSE
dessus, mais ce n'était pas moi qui m'en occupais.

 3. J'envisage d'utiliser LVM pour gérer les disques des VM.
 J'ai créé pour cela un groupe de volume dédié.
 Mon objectif est de pouvoir faire facilement des snapshots via virt-manager.
 Est-ce la bonne approche ?
 Que conseillez-vous ?

J'ai utilisé des vm's comme ça (et j'en ai 2 sur ma propre machine).
C'est assez pratique. Il est facile de monter les partitions des vm's
avec kpartx si on veut intervenir dessus. Il peut être opportun de
configurer le partitionnement des vm's avec du lvm également, pour les
extensions de volumes.

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