flash in stretch again

[Maureen L Thomas]

I just updated some packages and it upgraded me to stretch.  That is all 
fine but I cannot get flash to work yet again.  Is there any help out 
there for this program.  I even installed Chromium with pepperflash and 
it won't work either.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.


I am running on an AMD A8, Toshiba satellite, with stretch.  Thanks.

Maureen

Re: Plantage de Libreoffice Writer

[Eric Degenetais]

Bonjour,
ça semble résulter d'une incompatibilité entre les jdk actuels et le tout
dernier fix de sécurité sur le noyau Linux qui concerne la gestion de
l'extension de la pile d'appel. Ce problème touche  la machine virtuelle
openJdk et celle qu'Oracle a repris à Sun, dite jdk Oracle, et il a déjà
été signalé aux mainteneurs debian. Je suppose que gcj-jdk suffit à
travailler avec LibreOffice, mais pour ceux qui ont besoin d'un java
complet à la dernière norme il existe un paramètre de boot à passer au
noyau. Vu qu'il annule le fix de sécurité, on peut espérer que
l'incompatibilité sera résolue rapidement pour openJdk au moins.

Bonne journée

Le 22 juin 2017 02:34, "hugues larrive"  a écrit :

> Le 20 juin 2017 à 14:36, maderios  a écrit :
>
>> On 06/20/2017 12:06 PM, hugues larrive wrote:
>>
>>> Bonjour,
>>>
>>> Hier soir j'ai mis à jour mon système de jessie vers stretch et ce matin
>>> impossible d'ouvrir un document writer : le splashscreen apparaît, puis
>>> la fenêtre avec sa barre d'état qui semble charger le document et tout
>>> disparaît.
>>>
>>> Si je lance directement writer j'ai juste le splashscreen et puis plus
>>> rien.
>>>
>>> Les autres applications de libreoffice fonctionnent mais plantent aussi
>>> dès que je lance writer.
>>>
>>> J'ai essayé de le lancer depuis le terminal mais il ne renvoi aucun
>>> message lorsqu'il plante.
>>>
>>> J'ai aussi tanté de supprimer le dossier ~/.config/libreoffice/ mais ça
>>> n'a pas résolut le problème.
>>>
>>> Bonjour
>> Il n'y a aucune raison pour que writer plante.
>> - essayer d'ouvrir un document vide.
>> - il faudrait tracer tout ce que tu as installé ou désinstallé, y compris
>> les éventuels bidouillages, les résidus de fichiers anciens, les
>> extensions, etc...
>>
>> --
>> Maderios
>>
>> Bonjour,
>
> Qu'entendez-vous par document vide ? J'ai déjà essayé de le lancer avec la
> commande libreoffice --writer , dans ce cas je vois juste le splashscreen,
> la barre rouge qui se remplit, et il rend la main sans la moindre sortie
> dans le terminal.
>
> J'ai aussi testé avec un autre utilisateur créé spécialement pour
> l'occasion, le comportement est le mème.
>
> Mon système est clean (installé le 13 mai) et pas de bidouillage.
>
> En éditant le script libreoffice, j'ai découvert qu'il y avait un argument
> --backtrace,
> Ça dit :
> Thread 1 "soffice.bin" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
> 0xa9674975 in _expand_stack_to(unsigned char*) () from
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-i386/jre/lib/i386/server/libjvm.so
> J'ai dont désinstallé java-8-openjdk ce qui a provoqué l'installation de
> gcj-jre et résolu le problème.
>
> Hugues
>

Re: apt-get upgrade problem

[davidson]

On Wed, 21 Jun 2017, Mike McClain wrote:


When I do 'apt-get upgrade', I get the following:
The following packages have been kept back:
 firefox-esr
and firefox/iceweasel is what I was hoping to upgrade.
Can someone point me at where to look to see why I can't upgrade
iceweasel?


% man apt-get
  [...]
  upgrade
[...] Packages currently installed with new versions available are
retrieved and upgraded; UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES ARE CURRENTLY
INSTALLED PACKAGES REMOVED, OR PACKAGES NOT ALREADY INSTALLED
RETRIEVED AND INSTALLED. New versions of currently installed
packages that cannot be upgraded without changing the install
status of another package will be left at their current
version. [...]

  dist-upgrade
dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade,
also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions
of packages; apt-get has a "smart" conflict resolution system, and
it will attempt to upgrade the most important packages at the
expense of less important ones if necessary. The dist-upgrade
command may therefore remove some packages. [...]

  [...]
  install
[...] All packages required by the package(s) specified for
installation will also be retrieved and installed.[...]

  [...]

Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

[Jude DaShiell]

I found that to be the case and fixed it by adding missing information 
to /etc/network/interfaces.  What was missing was the allow-hotplug 
line;

wpa-ssid,
wpa-psk
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017, Felix Miata wrote:


Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 16:35:30
From: Felix Miata 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: no network after jessie -> stretch
Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2017 20:35:50 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

D. R. Evans composed on 2017-06-21 14:20 (UTC-0600):
.

eth0, eth1 and lo are the three named interfaces it returns.

.

(Historically, eth0 is the one that has been actually been used, and it is
supposed to get an IP address via DHCP from my main server...

.
If eth0 is the name you wish used, it's probably sufficient to do #3 at the
bottom of:



I use net.ifnames=0 in all my Grub stanzas. I'm bad with names, yet eth0 is a
name I can and do remember.



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Re: apt-get upgrade problem

[Patrick Bartek]

On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:56:45 -0700 Mike McClain 
wrote:

> When I do 'apt-get upgrade', I get the following:
> The following packages have been kept back:
>   firefox-esr
> and firefox/iceweasel is what I was hoping to upgrade.
> Can someone point me at where to look to see why I can't upgrade
> iceweasel? Thanks,

A few days ago, I got the same.  apt-get dist-upgrade will install that
new version of firefox-esr replacing the old one.

B

Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

[Fungi4All]

My fix in such occassions has been to download in a medium commonly used 
(stick, common partition with a system that
has net access) the .deb packages for connman and cmst and install them to the 
isolated system using dpkg, then reboot.
Most likely whatever previous networking set-up there is connman will override 
and fix for you. Especially helpful with wifi.
I will probably get some heat from the anti-gui brigade but if it is a quick 
fix and you get online then you can figure it all out
and correct whatever .conf there was a glitch at.

Re: Plantage de Libreoffice Writer

[hugues larrive]

Le 20 juin 2017 à 14:36, maderios  a écrit :

> On 06/20/2017 12:06 PM, hugues larrive wrote:
>
>> Bonjour,
>>
>> Hier soir j'ai mis à jour mon système de jessie vers stretch et ce matin
>> impossible d'ouvrir un document writer : le splashscreen apparaît, puis
>> la fenêtre avec sa barre d'état qui semble charger le document et tout
>> disparaît.
>>
>> Si je lance directement writer j'ai juste le splashscreen et puis plus
>> rien.
>>
>> Les autres applications de libreoffice fonctionnent mais plantent aussi
>> dès que je lance writer.
>>
>> J'ai essayé de le lancer depuis le terminal mais il ne renvoi aucun
>> message lorsqu'il plante.
>>
>> J'ai aussi tanté de supprimer le dossier ~/.config/libreoffice/ mais ça
>> n'a pas résolut le problème.
>>
>> Bonjour
> Il n'y a aucune raison pour que writer plante.
> - essayer d'ouvrir un document vide.
> - il faudrait tracer tout ce que tu as installé ou désinstallé, y compris
> les éventuels bidouillages, les résidus de fichiers anciens, les
> extensions, etc...
>
> --
> Maderios
>
> Bonjour,

Qu'entendez-vous par document vide ? J'ai déjà essayé de le lancer avec la
commande libreoffice --writer , dans ce cas je vois juste le splashscreen,
la barre rouge qui se remplit, et il rend la main sans la moindre sortie
dans le terminal.

J'ai aussi testé avec un autre utilisateur créé spécialement pour
l'occasion, le comportement est le mème.

Mon système est clean (installé le 13 mai) et pas de bidouillage.

En éditant le script libreoffice, j'ai découvert qu'il y avait un argument
--backtrace,
Ça dit :
Thread 1 "soffice.bin" received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0xa9674975 in _expand_stack_to(unsigned char*) () from
/usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-i386/jre/lib/i386/server/libjvm.so
J'ai dont désinstallé java-8-openjdk ce qui a provoqué l'installation de
gcj-jre et résolu le problème.

Hugues

Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

[D. R. Evans]

Felix Miata wrote on 06/21/2017 01:33 PM:
> Gian Carlo composed on 2017-06-21 21:05 (UTC+0200):
> .
>> What is the output of "/sbin/ifconfig"?
>> Do you see "eth0" or something like "enXX"?
> .
> ip is not included in a default Stretch install. Try 'ip a'
> 

That command seems to give more or less the same output is ifconfig, but in a
different format and with rather less detail. Anyway, like the ifconfig
command, it lists eth0, eth1 and lo.

  Doc

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Re: apt-get upgrade problem

[Carl Fink]

On 06/21/2017 04:56 PM, Mike McClain wrote:

When I do 'apt-get upgrade', I get the following:
The following packages have been kept back:
   firefox-esr
and firefox/iceweasel is what I was hoping to upgrade.
Can someone point me at where to look to see why I can't upgrade iceweasel?

Have you tried typing "apt-get install firefox-esr"? It should tell you 
why it's held back.


The other thing would be "apt-get dist-upgrade".

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apt-get upgrade problem

[Mike McClain]

When I do 'apt-get upgrade', I get the following:
The following packages have been kept back:
  firefox-esr
and firefox/iceweasel is what I was hoping to upgrade.
Can someone point me at where to look to see why I can't upgrade iceweasel?
Thanks,
Mike
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Re: slow connections to non-bridged hostapd/dnsmasq wireless access point (was pointers to material...)

[Joel Rees]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 9:39 AM, Dan Ritter  wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 07:40:49AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
>> (Now that I'm awake...)
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Joel Rees  wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Dan Ritter  wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:55:11AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
>> >>> On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Dan Ritter  
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 11:50:00AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
>> >>> >> (famous last words)
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Joel Rees  
>> >>> >> wrote:
>> >>> >> > I now have connection for both the wireless and the netbook that is 
>> >>> >> > acting
>> >>> >> > as the AP. I took out the bridge entirely, quit trying to play with
>> >>> >> > port forwarding,
>> >>> >> > just used dead simple setup. dnsmasq was the only missing piece, if 
>> >>> >> > I had
>> >>> >> > not been focusing on bridging.  Bridging is probably for the other 
>> >>> >> > direction.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > But the wireless is pretty slow, so I'm not sure I'm finished.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > I have to go take care of some family business, when I'm done I'll
>> >>> >> > post the details.
>> >>> >> >
>> >>> >> > But it's really pretty simply. I was just working too hard.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> But it's too slow to maintain a connection.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> After mucking around a bit, I haven't really come up with anything. So
>> >>> >> I'll post my
>> >>> >> configurations (names changed as usual):
>> >>> >
>> >>> > You have an eth0 network, a non-overlapping wlan0 network -- can
>> >>> > you characterize "too slow"?
>> >>>
>> >>> Actually, now that I dig in, it only seems to be routing dns traffic.
>> >>>
>> >>> That is, I tried to ping the wireless interface from my daughter's 
>> >>> computer
>> >>> and got a network not reachable or down result of some sort. (I didn't
>> >>> write the exact message down, and my daughter's at school so I can't
>> >>> use her computer.)
>> >>>
>> >>> But my logs on the netbook that is running hostapd and dnsmasq show
>> >>> quite a bit of dns traffic, lots of queries returning successful results.
>> >>>
>> >>> > Things to check:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > - ping from your netbook to the outside world
>> >>>
>> >>> No problem there.
>> >>>
>> >>> > - ping from a wifi client through the netbook to the outside
>> >>> >   world
>> >>>
>> >>> That also got network not reachable or down or something.
>> >>>
>> >>> > if those work,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > - wget -O /dev/null http://speed.hetzner.de/100MB.bin
>> >>> > - and on a wifi client
>> >>>
>> >>> I tried that in bridge configuration just now and I'm only getting one
>> >>> percent every twenty to thirty seconds. The non-bridged configuration
>> >>> doesn't even read the mail to look at the url.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Right, that's bad.
>>
>> Actually, it might be normal for this ancient Android tablet.
>>
>> >> Try this:
>> >>
>> >> allow-hotplug eth0
>> >> iface eth0 inet static
>> >>
>> >> allow-hotplug wlan0
>> >> iface wlan0 inet static
>> >>
>> >> auto br0
>> >> iface br0 inet static
>> >> address 172.28.45.58
>> >> netmask 255.255.255.192
>> >> broadcast 172.28.45.63
>> >> gateway 172.28.45.32
>> >> dns-nameservers 172.28.45.32 208.67.222.222 8.8.4.4
>> >> bridge_ports eth0 wlan0
>> >> bridge_maxwait 1
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Note that now both the eth0 and wlan0 interfaces will have the same
>> >> 172.28.45.58 address
>> >>
>> >> But for right now, ignore that: just test connectivity and speed on this
>> >> netbook while the bridge is in effect.
>> >
>> > Interesting. Without the alias on eth0, the netbook is now able to access
>> > the internet through the bridged eth0 port. This is beginning to make
>> > more sense to me.
>> >
>> > Speed on your 100Mb blob is reasonable, ETA of about two minutes
>> > and 40 seconds, which is close to the limit on my connection.
>> >
>> > Wireless devices are not able to log in. I'm not sure I got the changes
>> > to the dnsmasq and ntp configurations right for doing a subrange of
>> > what I have the wall router providing me.
>>
>> I forgot the most important setting.
>>
>> Setting hostapd to bridge mode solved the connection problem.
>>
>> It's still running about 20 seconds per megabyte, which may be all I
>> want to expect from this ancient single-processor 32-bit ARM
>> Android 2.4 tablet with only 1G RAM and an 80%-90% full 8G internal
>> flash.
>>
>> I'll try a connection on one of my kids' computers later.
>>
>> >> If you can't get a good approximation of your internet
>> >> connection speed from this, there's more to track down.
>> >>
>> >> -dsr-
>> >
>> > This is something I can play with after I wake up tomorrow. (It's about
>> > two in the morning here and I need to get some sleep.)

For the record, the speed problem somehow resolved itself.

I don't know how, but I'm guessing 

Dubte amb les versions

[Santi Moreno]

Hola gent,
tinc un dubte sobre les noves versions de Debian una vegada s'ha
publicat Stretch. Vos conte:
Des de que vaig instalar Debian Stretch al meu portatil i un cop es va
congelar vaig configurar el sources.list amb testing per tenir un
"rolling-release" i tot està anant perfecte. El meu dubte és que una
vegada Stretch passa a Stable, Buster és la nova testing. No he canviat
res, menteixo, sí he canviat el security del sources.list ja que em
donava error de versió. Ho he possat a Stretch i tot ok. El tema és que
he fet un apt-get dist-upgrade després de un apt-get upgrade i s'han
actualitzat uns quants programes (pocs perqué sol fer-ho molt sovint, el
upgrade no el dist-upgrade) i tot apararentment funciona bé. El meu
dubte és que segueix indicant: inxi -S
Debian GNU/Linux 9 (stretch)

Quan canviarà a Buster? serà automàtic en algun upgrade o tinc que tocar
algun fitxer?

Salut i gracies,
@santimoreno

Re: Upgrade de Jessie

[Julien Pecqueur]

Bonjour,

Avec gnome-tweak-tool tu peux modifier le mapping de certaines touches
(ctrl par exemple).

Julien

Le 21 juin 2017 8:30 PM,  a écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
> J'ai mis à jour mon portable, hier, j'ai eu 2 problèmes:
> - plus de tap and click... corrigé en choisissant gnome sur wayland
> - Le 2ème problème j'ai pas encore trouver la solution ...
> J'ai des inversions de touches...
> super sur ctrl
> alt sur super
> et
> crtl sur alt...
>
> Bref déroutant le temps de comprendre pourquoi plus rien  ne marche comme
> prévu.
>
> J'ai testé keyboard-configuration, mais j'ai pas pu réglé ces touches.
> Si vous avez une piste pour remapper ces touches sous gnome.
>
> C.S.
>
>

Re: Debian 9 in VirtualBox werkt gewoon

[Geert Stappers]

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 10:47:06PM +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> Op 21-06-17 om 19:48 schreef Patrick Ruytings:
> > Ik heb Debian 9 geïnstalleerd onder VirtualBox maar ik krijg geen
> > fullscreen beeld. Ik heb deze aanbevelingen gevolgd:
> > https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox
> > Maar toch lukt het mij niet.
> > Kan iemand mij helpen?
> > Dank!
> > 
> Hallo,
> 
> Heb je de "guest additions" geinstalleerd in Debian?
> 
> Deze zijn volgens mij te installeren via het Virtualbox menu.
> 

Zo kunnen helpen. Zo wie zo beter dan niet doen.
Maar ik denk dat er meer aan de hand is.
Vrijdagavond op vroegst dat ik er toelichting op kan geven.


Groeten
Geert Stappers
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> > > Who is it?
> > Merry
> Mary Who?
Merry Christmas

Re: Debian 9 in VirtualBox

[Paul van der Vlis]

Hallo,

Heb je de "guest additions" geinstalleerd in Debian?

Deze zijn volgens mij te installeren via het Virtualbox menu.

Groeten,
Paul.

Op 21-06-17 om 19:48 schreef Patrick Ruytings:
> Ik heb Debian 9 geïnstalleerd onder VirtualBox maar ik krijg geen
> fullscreen beeld. Ik heb deze aanbevelingen gevolgd:
> https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox
> Maar toch lukt het mij niet.
> Kan iemand mij helpen?
> Dank!
> 



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Re: Debian 9 - eGalax-Touch

[Floris]

Op Wed, 21 Jun 2017 22:08:54 +0200 schreef Stefan Weinzierl  
:



On 21.06.2017 19:38, Larry Dighera wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 18:43:11 +0200, you wrote:


Can somebody tell me, what I have to do, to get this device useable?


Perhaps there's a clue here: http://www.eeti.com.tw/drivers_Linux.html


I can't get the driver from this page running with Debian 9.



You can install this driver manually

copy the content of  
eGTouch_v2.5.5814.L-x/eGTouch_v2.5.5814.L-x/eGTouch64/eGTouch64withX

to /usr/bin
in a terminal run eGTouchD
in an other terminal run eGTouchU and test your device

Floris



What I found interesting, is that the installer, can work with the touch  
and the ready installed system not.


Stefan

Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

[Felix Miata]

D. R. Evans composed on 2017-06-21 14:20 (UTC-0600):
.
> eth0, eth1 and lo are the three named interfaces it returns.
.
> (Historically, eth0 is the one that has been actually been used, and it is
> supposed to get an IP address via DHCP from my main server... 
.
If eth0 is the name you wish used, it's probably sufficient to do #3 at the
bottom of:



I use net.ifnames=0 in all my Grub stanzas. I'm bad with names, yet eth0 is a
name I can and do remember.
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Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

[D. R. Evans]

Gian Carlo wrote on 06/21/2017 01:05 PM:

> What is the output of "/sbin/ifconfig"?

It's too long to type it all. If you want some part of it, please let me know
and I'll try to type it without too many mistakes.

> Do you see "eth0" or something like "enXX"?

eth0, eth1 and lo are the three named interfaces it returns.

(Historically, eth0 is the one that has been actually been used, and it is
supposed to get an IP address via DHCP from my main server. Naturally, since
the interface never came into service after the upgrade, my server didn't hand
out a lease when the upgraded machine booted, since it never saw the DHCP
request.)

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Re: Debian 9 - eGalax-Touch

[Stefan Weinzierl]

On 21.06.2017 19:38, Larry Dighera wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 18:43:11 +0200, you wrote:


Can somebody tell me, what I have to do, to get this device useable?


Perhaps there's a clue here: http://www.eeti.com.tw/drivers_Linux.html


I can't get the driver from this page running with Debian 9.

What I found interesting, is that the installer, can work with the touch 
and the ready installed system not.


Stefan

Re: Debian 9 - eGalax-Touch

[Floris]

Op Wed, 21 Jun 2017 18:43:11 +0200 schreef Stefan Weinzierl  
:



Hello,

I have here an device with an touch-screen which can I use during the  
installation of Debian 9. But when the System is installed, I can't use  
the touch-device anymore.


lsusb says that this is an eGalax-device.

Can somebody tell me, what I have to do, to get this device useable?

Stefan



maybe if you replace the new way xserver-xorg-input-libinput with the old  
way xserver-xorg-input-evdev the device will work again.


Floris

Re: Preparando para atualizar o Debian 8 para o 9

[Thiago C. F.]

Obrigado Luiz e Fred pela info. Era o que precisava realmente saber. Vou
reinstalar sem este repositório.

Em 21 de junho de 2017 09:06, Fred Maranhão 
escreveu:

> 2017-06-20 15:26 GMT-03:00 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh :
> > On Tue, 20 Jun 2017, Thiago C. F. wrote:
> >> Então... eu tinha adicionado este repositório através de um tutorial na
> >> internet ensinando o que fazer depois de instalar o Debian. Agora... a
> >> dúvida é: É realmente necessário o repositório deb-multimedia.org?
> >
> > Depende muito.  Eu pessoalmente não sinto falta.
>
> a alguns anos atrás eu usava para conseguir reproduzir alguns formatos
> de vídeos. faz anos que não uso e não sinto falta.
>
>
> >
> > --
> >   Henrique Holschuh
> >
>
>

Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

[Michael Biebl]

Am 21.06.2017 um 17:53 schrieb D. R. Evans:
> I just completed an upgrade to stretch on an i386 machine.
> 
> There were no obvious showstopping errors during the install. I saw a few
> "unable to delete directory; directory not empty" errors fly by, but nothing
> that seemed dangerous, and the installation didn't complain about anything.
> 
> But when I tried the reboot following the upgrade, I lost all network
> connectivity. The boot screen said:
>   Failed to Start Network Manager Wait Online

Please share more details about your network configuration.
Do you use ifupdown to manage your interface, NetworkManager, something
else?

The error message above indicates, that you have network-manager
installed and since stretch NetworkManager-wait-online.service is
enabled by default (it wasn't in jessie).

Now, if you don't actually manage your interfaces with NetworkManager,
NetworkManager-wait-online.service might run into a timeout (of 30s).

The output nmcli might be helpful.


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Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

[Felix Miata]

Gian Carlo composed on 2017-06-21 21:05 (UTC+0200):
.
> What is the output of "/sbin/ifconfig"?
> Do you see "eth0" or something like "enXX"?
.
ip is not included in a default Stretch install. Try 'ip a'
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Re: no network after jessie -> stretch

[Gian Carlo]

Il 21/06/2017 18:00, D. R. Evans ha scritto:
> I just completed an upgrade to stretch on an i386 machine.
> 
> There were no obvious showstopping errors during the install. I saw a few
> "unable to delete directory; directory not empty" errors fly by, but nothing
> that seemed dangerous, and the installation didn't complain about anything.
> 
> But when I tried the reboot following the upgrade, I lost all network
> connectivity. The boot screen said:
>   Failed to Start Network Manager Wait Online
It may be related to this:

https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/

What is the output of "/sbin/ifconfig"?
Do you see "eth0" or something like "enXX"?

gc

Re: Lançado o Debian 9 "Stretch" - GnuPG

[Adriano Rafael Gomes]

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 02:34:40PM -0300, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 06:28:09AM -0300, Marcelo Santana wrote:


A versão "Stretch" é a primeira versão do Debian a apresentar a
ramificação "modern" do GnuPG no pacote "gnupg". Isso traz criptografia
de curva elíptica, padrões melhores, uma arquitetura mais modular e
suporte melhorado a smartcards. Nós continuaremos a fornecer a
ramificação "classic" do GnuPG como gnupg1 para pessoas que precisam
dela, mas agora ela está obsoleta.


 O vem a ser "curva elíptica" em se tratando de programa de
 criptografia?


Gilberto, talvez isso ajude a esclarecer:
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criptografia_de_curva_el%C3%ADptica


O que seriam esses padrões melhores?


Acredito que diga respeito a melhores escolhas para os valores de 
configuração padrão do programa.


Procure por modern branch em https://gnupg.org/news.html e siga os 
links, por exemplo:

https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2016q2/000390.html
https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2016q2/000387.html
https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-announce/2016q3/000393.html
... e procure por default neles.

Veja também o arquivo /usr/share/doc/gnupg/README.Debian.


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Re: solucionado -en parte- thunderbird problema configuracion de una cuenta con gmail

[claudio menet]

Estimado,

¿Intentaste nuevamente el método de autenticación por OAuth2 luego de
activar las aplicaciones menos seguras en gmail?

Saludos

El día 21 de junio de 2017, 14:50, Miguel  escribió:
> He podido configurar las cuentas de gmail. El error esta en que tienes que
> cambiar la configuracion de la cuenta de google y permitir el acceso de
> aplicaciones menos seguras marcando esa casilla.
>
> Luego en la cuenta puedes configurarla con los parametros del propio
> servidor aunque tienes que cambiar el modeo de autentificacion de contraseña
> marcando contraseña manual.
>
> por ello quedaria asi:
>
> servidor imap.gmail.com
>
> usuario tu correo
>
> contraseña tu contraseña
>
> puerto 993
>
> seguridad conexion ssl/tsl
>
> Metodo de identificacion contraseña normal
>
>
>
> servidor saliente smtp.gmail.com
>
> usuario tu correo
>
> contraseña tu contraseña
>
> puerto 465
>
> seguridad conexion ssl/tsl
>
> Metodo de identificacion contraseña normal
>
>
> La solucion no es completa puedo ver todos mis correos y carpetas por imap
> de todas las cuentas pero ahora no puedo configuar los calendarios de la
> cuenta. no puedo configurar Proveedor de Google Calendar me aparece el mismo
> problema.
>
> Si alguien tiene alguna idea ...
>
>

[Résolu]Re: Présence par défaut d'Aptitude sur Stretch

[Stéphane GARGOLY]

Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian.

Le mercredi 21 juin 2017 à 18:26, Cyrille a écrit :
> Bonjour
> J'ai quelques stretch qui tournent
> Par défaut c'est apt,
> j'ai ensuite installé aptitude... en général, la première chose que je
> fais ;-)

Je vous remercie tous pour vos réponses. En fait, je me doutais un peu car 
c'est déjà le cas avec Jessie me semble-t-il... Néanmoins, je me suis permis 
de poser la question - qui a lancé ce fil de discussion - parce que je me suis 
demandé s'il y a eu un changement avec Stretch... :-)

Pour aller plus loin, il est possible de "forcer" l'Installateur Debian à 
installer Aptitude pendant l'opération de l'installation de Stretch en 
intégrant, au niveau de l'écran d'amorçage, le paramètre suivant (attention, 
les guillemets doubles doivent y être présents) : preseed/late_command="in-
target apt-get install -y aptitude"

Pour cette raison, je vais passer ce fil de discussion comme résolu. Bien sûr, 
cela ne vous empêche pas de poursuivre la discussion si vous en voyez 
l'utilité ou, tout simplement, l'envie. ;-)

Quand à ceux qui se demandent pourquoi je n'utilise pas les commandes 'apt' 
voire 'apt-get' à la place, bien disons que, depuis que je suis venu à Debian 
il y a déjà 6 ans - à l'époque, Squeeze venait de sortir en tant version 
Stable -, je trouvais Aptitude bien plus pratique non seulement à cause de son 
interface de type console - voir note a - mais aussi à cause des 
fonctionnalités qu'il propose (en ligne de commande cette fois). Voyez sa page 
de manuel : https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/aptitude/aptitude.8.fr.html

Le manuel d'utilisateur d'Aptitude complète sa page de manuel : 
http://aptitude.alioth.debian.org/doc/fr/

Note a : Contrairement à Synaptic qui a une interface graphique et, donc, 
impose l'installation de X Window...

Bref, je trouve qu'Aptitude a encore des arguments à faire valoir face à ses 
"concurrents" tels que apt ou apt-get... :-)

D'ailleurs, je remarque qu'Aptitude est également proposé pour Buster et Sid 
d'après à ce que j'ai pu voir à cette page de recherche du paquet 'aptitude' : 
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=aptitude=names=all=all

Cordialement et à bientôt.

Stéphane

Re: Lançado o Debian 9 "Stretch" - GnuPG

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Wed, 21 Jun 2017, Gilberto F da Silva wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 06:28:09AM -0300, Marcelo Santana wrote:
>   O vem a ser "curva elíptica" em se tratando de programa de
>   criptografia? O que seriam esses padrões melhores? 

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criptografia_de_curva_el%C3%ADptica
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliptic_curve_cryptography
https://safecurves.cr.yp.to/

Boa leitura.

-- 
  Henrique Holschuh

Re: pdf file is not read correctly

[Fungi4All]

From: abelahc...@gmail.com

thanks a lot
I think it is an encoding problem.
When I open it in embedde pdf reader in firefox, the a print it as a pdf file I 
get same problem,
but if I print it as a PS file, the problem is fixed and the display is correct.

As far as I know this would make it a ps file renamed as .pdf? This is a 
different format/language.
I'm pretty sure there are utilities that would read the one format and export 
the other.
But as others mentioned, a pdf file produced by acrobat will always work 
everywhere, while those
that are exported by other software may not be equally accessible by all pdf 
viewers.

So the problem is in " pdf font" ?
by the way pdf uses font?

Not always, you may look at a pdf text document and all there is is a picture 
of a printed page
which only ocr could possibly convert back to text. So there is no fonts or 
text in a picture.
Usually you find this in scanned documents or from authors that do not want you 
to copy/paste
their text. An easy way to tell this would be to click and drag the mouse as in 
blocking text and
see if it can actually copy lines. In a picture you can only copy the whole 
page as an image,
but no text.

thanks again
regards

no problem, but the way this works on the list is that whoever responds may not 
always
know everything, so others correct their responses, and knowledge gets 
dialectically
refined. If what I stated here is wrong you can bet people will jump and 
correct me, so
we both learn from them, if they are right!

Re: Upgrade de Jessie

[maderios]

On 06/21/2017 12:20 AM, G2PC wrote:


Le 20/06/2017 à 19:57, maderios a écrit :

On 06/20/2017 06:00 PM, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:


C'est comme les toutes nouvelles voitures, mieux vaut attendre
avant de l'acheter, laissons les cobayes le soin de les tester... :-)


Bonjour
Les cobayes qui mettent les mains dans le cambouis afin que tu puisses
utiliser sans te fatiguer une Debian qui marche  te saluent...


Au boulot les cobayes, et, les dév.


Sans être dév, envoyer des rapports de bug, c'est déjà pas mal...

--
Maderios

How To: Install Minimal KDE in Stretch

[RavenLX]

I've figured out how to install a *bare minimal* KDE in Stretch:

1. When installing Debian to your computer, do NOT select to install 
"Debian Desktop" or ANY desktop option. Instead, install print server 
and system base *only* (nothing else). Complete the install and reboot.


2. Log in at the command prompt and then type in:
   $ sudo apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop

3. In KDE terminal (konsole):

   $ sudo apt-get purge kwrite konqueror kwalletmanager plasma-discover 
plasma-discover-common


   $ apt-get download dolphin
   $ sudo dpkg --force-all -i [dolphin_downloaded_filename]
   $ sudo apt --fix-broken install
   $ sudo apt-get autoremove

This is optional. It removes all downloaded packages that apt-get kept:
   $ sudo apt-get clean

This results in a minimal install of:

Graphics - ImageMagick*
Settings - System Settings
System:
Debian bug reporting tool
File Manager (Dolphin) (See above for installation)
Info Center
System Monitor
Terminal
UXTerm*
XTerm*
Utilities:
UXTerm*
XTerm*

* Note: These can be safely hidden in the menu:

1. Right click on the Menu icon - Edit Applications
2. Settings - Configure KDE Menu Editor
3. General options - check "Show hidden entries"
4. Click on entry to hide.
5. General Tab: check "Hidden entry"

Re: Upgrade de Jessie

[cs_debusr_fr]

Bonjour,

J'ai mis à jour mon portable, hier, j'ai eu 2 problèmes:
- plus de tap and click... corrigé en choisissant gnome sur wayland
- Le 2ème problème j'ai pas encore trouver la solution ...
J'ai des inversions de touches...
super sur ctrl
alt sur super
et
crtl sur alt...

Bref déroutant le temps de comprendre pourquoi plus rien  ne marche 
comme prévu.


J'ai testé keyboard-configuration, mais j'ai pas pu réglé ces touches.
Si vous avez une piste pour remapper ces touches sous gnome.

C.S.

Re: Instal·lar Debian 9 de cero... Es recomanable encriptar les particions?

[Narcis Garcia]

__
I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at this list's archives. Mailing lists service
administrator should fix this.
El 21/06/17 a les 15:26, Alex Muntada ha escrit:
> Narcis Garcia:
> 
>> No aporta gaire avantatge que sigui el GRUB o que sigui initram
>> el desbloquejador de l'encriptat, comparats amb si l'arrencada
>> és de disc dur o externa (USB).
> 
> No hi estic d'acord. Això evita que el contingut de /boot es pugui
> modificar sense que el sistema operatiu hagi arrencat. Si tens el
> /boot en un disc extern, sense xifrar, no tens cap garantia que
> no hagi estat modificat.
> 
> La diferència rau en què modificar un ramdisk i afegir un script
> que capturi la contrasenya és trivial i en canvi substituir el
> grub per un de diferent que faci el mateix no ho és gens. D'aquí
> que no estigui d'acord amb la teva afirmació.
> 
> Ara bé, si vols tenir el /boot en un disc extern i també xifrat,
> aleshores d'acord.
> 
>> Al cap i a la fi parlem de programari que ha de ser fora de
>> l'encriptat per tal que la BIOS o EFI l'executi.
> 
> En aquest cas, potser també et pot interessar signar digitalment
> el GRUB perquè l'EFI verifiqui la signatura en l'arrencada.
> 
> Salut,
> Alex
> 

Posats a distingir la dificultat entre manipular el /boot i el GRUB, (o
la confiança que es dispositi en EFI), hi ha una manera molt més segura:
L'arrencada externa en un CD-R. De ben segur que ningú no te la
modifica, i a partir de CD (que desbloquegi LUKS) saltes a l'inici
normal de l'ordinador.

És una llàstima que el mercat estigui arraconant la possibilitat de
gravar mitjans de només lectura.

Re: Upgrade de Jessie

[Pierre L.]

Et ne pas oublier d'éventuellement avoir un "ghost" de sa machine avant
l'upgrade si on en a besoin peu de temps après... ca évitera de perdre
des heures à tout reconfigurer ;)
Clonezilla, acronis (payant...), plusieurs autres...


Le 21/06/2017 à 19:32, steve a écrit :
> Pour résumer, hydratez-vous bien et lancez-vous 




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Re: pdf file is not read correctly

[Abdelkader Belahcene]

thanks a lot
I think it is an encoding problem.
When I open it  in embedde pdf reader in firefox, the a print it  as a pdf
file I get same problem,
but if I print it as a PS file, the problem is fixed and the display is
correct.
So the problem is in " pdf font" ?
by the way pdf uses  font?

thanks again
regards


On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:26 AM, Fungi4All  wrote:

> Brian is very knowledgeable in many areas but unless your request meets
> Brian's
> specifications all you will get from him is criticism on how the request
> was placed.
> If you don't believe me check the archives of the list for this Brian-bot!
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: pdf file is not read correctly
> UTC Time: June 20, 2017 8:19 AM
> From: abelahc...@gmail.com
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> Strange, until today, I believed that a pdf file written in any language
> can be read by a pdf reader, since it is binary !! For example evince,
> and not I was wrong !!
> The following file is a pdf file in Arabic, it is read correctly under
> windows by acrobat reader, but not with evince, some parts are read but not
> others, (nevertheless my coding of the system is utf8), but what is the link 
> with
> utf8, since pdf is binary !!
> Please, how can I  fix this problem, thank you very much and in advance
>
>
> He does have a point about the missing file, all I can contribute is that
> I have seen multilingual documents with Evince
> and in many cases Arabic was included and displayed in correctly.  One
> does not need to understand the language to
> identify and distinguish correct display from an error message.
> The advice from other contributors about the other packages that read and
> display pdf's is sound advice.
> In addition, there are some conversion packages and/or plugins that
> convert a pdf to other printable formats, although
> I have great doubt that they can do any better job than evince.  Are you
> sure the document is not locked by a password
> that evince can not deal with?
>
> Welcome to the Debian zoo!
>

solucionado -en parte- thunderbird problema configuracion de una cuenta con gmail

[Miguel]

He podido configurar las cuentas de gmail. El error esta en que tienes 
que cambiar la configuracion de la cuenta de google y permitir el acceso 
de aplicaciones menos seguras marcando esa casilla.


Luego en la cuenta puedes configurarla con los parametros del propio 
servidor aunque tienes que cambiar el modeo de autentificacion de 
contraseña marcando contraseña manual.


por ello quedaria asi:

servidor imap.gmail.com

usuario tu correo

contraseña tu contraseña

puerto 993

seguridad conexion ssl/tsl

Metodo de identificacion contraseña normal



servidor saliente smtp.gmail.com

usuario tu correo

contraseña tu contraseña

puerto 465

seguridad conexion ssl/tsl

Metodo de identificacion contraseña normal


La solucion no es completa puedo ver todos mis correos y carpetas por 
imap de todas las cuentas pero ahora no puedo configuar los calendarios 
de la cuenta. no puedo configurar Proveedor de Google Calendar me 
aparece el mismo problema.


Si alguien tiene alguna idea ...

Debian 9 in VirtualBox

[Patrick Ruytings]

Ik heb Debian 9 geïnstalleerd onder VirtualBox maar ik krijg geen
fullscreen beeld. Ik heb deze aanbevelingen gevolgd:
https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox
Maar toch lukt het mij niet.
Kan iemand mij helpen?
Dank!

Re: Présence par défaut d'Aptitude sur Stretch

[Eric Degenetais]

Je me sers habituellement d'apt, mais de ce que j'ai vu en traînant sur les
forums,  aptitude fait en une commande des extractions d'information qui
sont sûrement faisables avec apt, mais loin d'être aussi immédiates.

Je fais rarement ce type de manipulations, mais pour ceux qui en ont
besoin...

Le 21 juin 2017 7:33 PM, "steve"  a écrit :

Le 21-06-2017, à 19:18:55 +0200, G2PC a écrit :

Petite révision svp, j'utilise apt, mais, je crois avoir également aptitude.
>
> Pourtant, je n'utilise que apt.
>
> Quel est l'avantage d'utiliser aptitude ?
>

L'interface n-curses ?

Re: Debian 9 - eGalax-Touch

[Larry Dighera]

On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 18:43:11 +0200, you wrote:

>Can somebody tell me, what I have to do, to get this device useable?

Perhaps there's a clue here: http://www.eeti.com.tw/drivers_Linux.html

Re: Lançado o Debian 9 "Stretch" - GnuPG

[Gilberto F da Silva]

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 06:28:09AM -0300, Marcelo Santana wrote:

> A versão "Stretch" é a primeira versão do Debian a apresentar a
> ramificação "modern" do GnuPG no pacote "gnupg". Isso traz criptografia
> de curva elíptica, padrões melhores, uma arquitetura mais modular e
> suporte melhorado a smartcards. Nós continuaremos a fornecer a
> ramificação "classic" do GnuPG como gnupg1 para pessoas que precisam
> dela, mas agora ela está obsoleta.

  O vem a ser "curva elíptica" em se tratando de programa de
  criptografia? O que seriam esses padrões melhores? 


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Stela dato:2.457.926,227  Loka tempo:2017-06-21 14:27:31 Merkredo 
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Se o importante é competir, para que existe o placar?


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Re: Présence par défaut d'Aptitude sur Stretch

[steve]

Le 21-06-2017, à 19:18:55 +0200, G2PC a écrit :


Petite révision svp, j'utilise apt, mais, je crois avoir également aptitude.

Pourtant, je n'utilise que apt.

Quel est l'avantage d'utiliser aptitude ?


L'interface n-curses ?

Re: Upgrade de Jessie

[steve]

Salut,

Alors pour ma part, j'ai mis à niveau sur deux machines. Sur ma machine
de bureau, ça s'est presque passé sans douleur. Une petite correction
manuelle à faire et c'était bon.

Par contre sur mon portable, ça s'est très mal passé. Je dois avouer que
j'ai fait ça pendant une réunion sans trop faire attention. J'ai dû
appuyer sur ENTER une fois de trop car je me suis retrouvé avec un
système qui ne possédait même plus un apt-get fonctionnel ; le réseau ne
fonctionnait plus. Bref, gros problème. De retour chez moi, j'ai monté
l'interface réseau à la main, et essayé un 'apt-get update'. Marchait
pas car il manquait le paquet 'apt-transport-https'. Pas grave me
suis-je dit, suffit de l'installer manuellement à partir d'une clef usb.
Mais il manquait plein de dépendances pour pouvoir installer ce paquet.
Et là ça a commencé à devenir pénible car pour trouver toutes les
dépendances sur debian.org, ça devient vite le chantier. J'ai essayé,
sur ma machine de bureau d'obtenir ce paquet + ses dépendances, mais
comme j'avais déjà mis à niveau, je me suis retrouvé bloqué. J'ai donc
installé une jessie dans une machine virtuelle et depuis là, un 'apt-get
download $(apt-rdepends apt | grep -v "^ ")' m'a fait le boulot. J'ai
transféré tout ça via une clef usb, monté le bouzin et essayé un 'dpkg
-i *'. Malheureusement, un paquet coinçait (libgcc1-doc il me semble).
J'ai simplement déplacé le répertoire /usr/share/doc/libgcc1 en
/usr/share/doc/libgcc1.old et retenté ma chance. Et ça a fonctionné !

J'ai ensuite pu remettre Jessie à jour afin de partir d'une bonne base,
puis viré dans mon sources.list tout ce qui n'était pas du debian
vanilla (oui, quelques dépôts étrangers…), remplacé toute occurrence de
Jessie par stretch dans le sources.list et lancé un 'apt-get
dist-upgrade'. Une demi-heure plus tard, tout était rentré dans l'ordre.

Voilà, ça n'a pas été simple et aucunement à conseiller à un débutant.
Mais quand on s'y connait un peu, c'est là qu'on se rend compte de toute
la robustesse et la résilience d'un système comme Debian. Tous les
outils sont facilement à disposition, il ne « suffit » plus qu'à les
utiliser dans le bon ordre. 



Pour résumer, hydratez-vous bien et lancez-vous ;-)

S

Re: Présence par défaut d'Aptitude sur Stretch

[G2PC]

Le 21/06/2017 à 19:04, Raphaël POITEVIN a écrit :
> jérémy prego  writes:
>
>> bonjour,
>>
>> il me semble que j'ai du l'installer à la main par la suite.
> Je confirme. Mais apt est aussi bien à mon sens.
>
> Raphaël
>
Petite révision svp, j'utilise apt, mais, je crois avoir également aptitude.

Pourtant, je n'utilise que apt.

Quel est l'avantage d'utiliser aptitude ?

Re: Présence par défaut d'Aptitude sur Stretch

[Raphaël POITEVIN]

jérémy prego  writes:

> bonjour,
>
> il me semble que j'ai du l'installer à la main par la suite.
Je confirme. Mais apt est aussi bien à mon sens.

Raphaël

Re: Présence par défaut d'Aptitude sur Stretch

[Cyrille]

Bonjour
J'ai quelques stretch qui tournent
Par défaut c'est apt,
j'ai ensuite installé aptitude... en général, la première chose que je
fais ;-)

Debian 9 - eGalax-Touch

[Stefan Weinzierl]

Hello,

I have here an device with an touch-screen which can I use during the 
installation of Debian 9. But when the System is installed, I can't use 
the touch-device anymore.


lsusb says that this is an eGalax-device.

Can somebody tell me, what I have to do, to get this device useable?

Stefan

Re: Présence par défaut d'Aptitude sur Stretch

[Daniel Huhardeaux]

Le 21/06/2017 à 18:17, Stéphane GARGOLY a écrit :

[...]

Aussi ma question est toute simple : Après l'installation d'un système - que
l'on pourrait qualifier de minimal (voir note c) -, est-ce que vous savez - et
que vous pourrez me dire - si Aptitude (voir note d) est installé par défaut
sur Stretch ?


Non, c'est le nouveau apt.

[...]

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Re: Présence par défaut d'Aptitude sur Stretch

[jérémy prego]

bonjour,

il me semble que j'ai du l'installer à la main par la suite.

jerem

Le 21/06/2017 à 18:17, Stéphane GARGOLY a écrit :

Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian :

Quand je vais installer Stretch - voir note a - sur un de mes ordinateurs sur
lequel est encore installé Jessie, je procéderai non pas par la mise à niveau
- voir note b - mais par une installation pure et simple, comme si on a affaire
à un ordinateur vierge de tout système d'exploitation par exemple.

Note a : Je n'ai pas encore fixé la date de ce passage mais ce sera, au plus
tard, au cours du 1er semestre 2018, ceci en raison du fait que Jessie -
devenue une version Oldstable - continue à bénéficier des mises à jour de
sécurité pendant, à priori, une année complète après la publication de la
nouvelle version Stable de Debian ce 17 juin 2017, en faisant abstraction du
support LTS. Il faut aussi savoir que je possède, chez moi, jusqu'à 4
ordinateurs (fixes ou portables) sur lesquels je prévois d'installer Stretch.
:-)

Note b : La mise à niveau est décrite au chapitre 4 "Mises à niveau depuis
Debian 8 (Jessie)" des Notes de publication pour Debian 9 (« Stretch ») que
vous pouvez trouver à la page suivante (pour le port 'amd64') :
http://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.fr.html

Aussi ma question est toute simple : Après l'installation d'un système - que
l'on pourrait qualifier de minimal (voir note c) -, est-ce que vous savez - et
que vous pourrez me dire - si Aptitude (voir note d) est installé par défaut
sur Stretch ?

Note c : Un système minimal ne possède aucun environnement de bureau - KDE par
exemple - ni aucun serveur tel que SSH, CUPS ou HTTPD.

Note d  : Pour ceux qui l'ignore, Aptitude est un gestionnaire de paquets,
voyez la page suivante pour en savoir plus :
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/aptitude

Je vous remercie d'avance de votre attention et vos éventuelles réponses. :-)

Cordialement et à bientôt.

Stéphane

Présence par défaut d'Aptitude sur Stretch

[Stéphane GARGOLY]

Bonjour à tous les utilisateurs et développeurs de Debian :

Quand je vais installer Stretch - voir note a - sur un de mes ordinateurs sur 
lequel est encore installé Jessie, je procéderai non pas par la mise à niveau 
- voir note b - mais par une installation pure et simple, comme si on a affaire 
à un ordinateur vierge de tout système d'exploitation par exemple.

Note a : Je n'ai pas encore fixé la date de ce passage mais ce sera, au plus 
tard, au cours du 1er semestre 2018, ceci en raison du fait que Jessie - 
devenue une version Oldstable - continue à bénéficier des mises à jour de 
sécurité pendant, à priori, une année complète après la publication de la 
nouvelle version Stable de Debian ce 17 juin 2017, en faisant abstraction du 
support LTS. Il faut aussi savoir que je possède, chez moi, jusqu'à 4 
ordinateurs (fixes ou portables) sur lesquels je prévois d'installer Stretch. 
:-)

Note b : La mise à niveau est décrite au chapitre 4 "Mises à niveau depuis 
Debian 8 (Jessie)" des Notes de publication pour Debian 9 (« Stretch ») que 
vous pouvez trouver à la page suivante (pour le port 'amd64') : 
http://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.fr.html

Aussi ma question est toute simple : Après l'installation d'un système - que 
l'on pourrait qualifier de minimal (voir note c) -, est-ce que vous savez - et 
que vous pourrez me dire - si Aptitude (voir note d) est installé par défaut 
sur Stretch ?

Note c : Un système minimal ne possède aucun environnement de bureau - KDE par 
exemple - ni aucun serveur tel que SSH, CUPS ou HTTPD.

Note d  : Pour ceux qui l'ignore, Aptitude est un gestionnaire de paquets, 
voyez la page suivante pour en savoir plus : 
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/aptitude

Je vous remercie d'avance de votre attention et vos éventuelles réponses. :-)

Cordialement et à bientôt.

Stéphane

no network after jessie -> stretch

[D. R. Evans]

I just completed an upgrade to stretch on an i386 machine.

There were no obvious showstopping errors during the install. I saw a few
"unable to delete directory; directory not empty" errors fly by, but nothing
that seemed dangerous, and the installation didn't complain about anything.

But when I tried the reboot following the upgrade, I lost all network
connectivity. The boot screen said:
  Failed to Start Network Manager Wait Online

It also suggested issuing the command:
 systemctl status NetworkManager-wait-online.service
but that merely says unhelpfully :
  "unit entered failed state"
and
  "Failed with result 'exit-code'"

(Sorry for any typing errors... since there's no network connectivity, I have
to retype anything :-( )

Any help in diagnosing, or, even better, fixing the problem will be gratefully
received.

It probably goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway: prior to this
upgrade, the network connectivity was fine (and has been through several
earlier versions of debian).

  Doc

-- 
Web:  http://enginehousebooks.com/drevans



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Re: Upgrade de Jessie

[MAS Jean-Louis]

Le 20/06/2017 à 18:00, andre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :

> Stretch est sortie,
> mais doit-on ou peut-on encore upgrader Jessie ?

Essaye et tu saura

Au préalable il faut consulter les releasesnotes

https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/releasenotes

Et notamment le chapitre 5 : Problèmes à connaître pour Stretch

De mon coté sur mon PC fixe personnel, c'est OK hormis le noyau 4.9 qui
refuse de se configurer correctement. Pour l'instant je suis resté en
3.16. le temps de debugger le problème.


Cordialement

-- 
Jean Louis Mas

New live images released (9.0.1)

[Steve McIntyre]

Hi folks,

We found multiple issues in the live images released at the
weekend. Since then, I've been working on fixes for the worst
problems. I've just published a new set of images as 9.0.1. Here's a
summary of the issues found, and current status:

1. KDE live desktop unstable on some (tested) hardware
==

Status: still a problem with 9.0.1

There is a segmentation fault in kmanage - the first obvious symptom
will be a failure to automatically log in. A workaround is to switch
to VT1 and wait for the desktop to start there. This has been
reproduced on hardware (using Intel graphics?), but not when testing
in a virtual machine.

See #865382.

2. Live images isolinux menu display problems
=

Status: Fixed in 9.0.1

When booted in BIOS mode (using isolinux), some of the localisation
options from the "Debian Live with Localisation Support" submenu are
displayed incorrectly. They may appear intermittently and then
disappear. They can still be selected and used and will work - just be
careful when selecting one.

See #861421.

3. Live images are not configuring UTF-8 console correctly
==

Status: still a problem with 9.0.1

After boot, X-based terminal programs will display non-ASCII
characters correctly, but the Linux console does not. The system is
configured to use UTF-8 locales, but the console is defaulting to
ISO-8859-15. There is a quick workaround: "dpkg-reconfigure
console-setup" and select "UTF-8".

See #864955.

4. Installation from the live image boot menu does not work
===

Status: Fixed in 9.0.1

There is a bug in the Packages files included on the live images,
causing the included Debian Installer code to fail with the error
"There was an error reading data from the CD-ROM. Please make sure it
is in the drive. If retrying does not work, you should check the
integrity of your CD-ROM."

See #865015.

5. Incorrect Volume ID used for all live images
===

Status: Fixed in 9.0.1

live-wrapper does not currently set the Volume ID on images it
creates, so they use the default supplied by xorriso: "ISOIMAGE".

See #865384.

6. The root directory of the live images has very restrictive permissions
=

Status: Fixed in 9.0.1

The root directory is mode 0700 (i.e. drwx--)

See #865386.

-- 
Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com
"Managing a volunteer open source project is a lot like herding
 kittens, except the kittens randomly appear and disappear because they
 have day jobs." -- Matt Mackall

Re: OT: Just a question - building live systems for arm on intel machines?

[tomas]

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On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 04:11:32PM +0200, Hans wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 21. Juni 2017, 16:01:31 CEST schrieb to...@tuxteam.de:
> Hi Tomas,
> 
> thanks for this quick response. Well, I just do not want to compile something 
> (however, I believe, some binary packages do this at installing, don't 
> they?), 
> just unpack packages to a chroot.
> 
> But you may be right: The live-build scripts and the packages might interact 
> with the base structure. And this will give bad answers. I did not think of 
> this. So I understand: Bad idea! :)

Well, not necessarily. Case by case basis. And with multiarch[1][2], Debian
has at least set the basis to have libraries for different architectures
living peacefully side by side.

(my installation has x86_64 and i386 packages and no war :-)

So the packaging part is no problem.

(Sometimes Debian takes a while to solve something. But the solutions
tend to be... beautiful :-)

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch
[2] https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO

Cheers
- -- tomás
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Re: OT: Just a question - building live systems for arm on intel machines?

[Hans]

Am Mittwoch, 21. Juni 2017, 16:01:31 CEST schrieb to...@tuxteam.de:
Hi Tomas,

thanks for this quick response. Well, I just do not want to compile something 
(however, I believe, some binary packages do this at installing, don't they?), 
just unpack packages to a chroot.

But you may be right: The live-build scripts and the packages might interact 
with the base structure. And this will give bad answers. I did not think of 
this. So I understand: Bad idea! :)

Thanks again for the fast response. It makes things much clearer.

Best

Hans
> All this is subsumed under the moniker "cross build". And the short
> answer is that yes, in principle it is possible (a decent C compiler,
> for example, supports cross compiling, etc.).
> 
> In practice, though, things become... "interesting". For example,
> what do you do if your build's "configure" interrogates your
> system? Your system will give the wrong answers! So the build
> system has to offer a way to provide pre-packaged answers ("yes,
> this is an ARM with a hardware floating point unit" or whatever,
> instead of the more comfortable "go find out for yourself").
> 
> And then, when the thing is built and you say "make test"? Do
> you have an emulator around?
> 
> To get you started on how Debian tries to tackle that, see
> 
>   https://wiki.debian.org/CrossBuildPackagingGuidelines
> 
> So the answer is... for some packages it works, for some not. It
> depends among other things on the build system.
> 
> Cheers
> -- tomás

Re: OT: Just a question - building live systems for arm on intel machines?

[tomas]

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On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 03:49:16PM +0200, Hans wrote:
> Hi folks, 
> 
> sorry, to ask here, but I do not know where to ask else.
> 
> Just a question: Is it possible, to build live-file systems with live-build 
> for 
> arm64 cpu's on an intel based system like i386 or amd64?

[...]

All this is subsumed under the moniker "cross build". And the short
answer is that yes, in principle it is possible (a decent C compiler,
for example, supports cross compiling, etc.).

In practice, though, things become... "interesting". For example,
what do you do if your build's "configure" interrogates your
system? Your system will give the wrong answers! So the build
system has to offer a way to provide pre-packaged answers ("yes,
this is an ARM with a hardware floating point unit" or whatever,
instead of the more comfortable "go find out for yourself").

And then, when the thing is built and you say "make test"? Do
you have an emulator around?

To get you started on how Debian tries to tackle that, see

  https://wiki.debian.org/CrossBuildPackagingGuidelines

So the answer is... for some packages it works, for some not. It
depends among other things on the build system.

Cheers
- -- tomás
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OT: Just a question - building live systems for arm on intel machines?

[Hans]

Hi folks, 

sorry, to ask here, but I do not know where to ask else.

Just a question: Is it possible, to build live-file systems with live-build for 
arm64 cpu's on an intel based system like i386 or amd64?

And can I build amd64 live-file systems on an i386 system?

And vice versa, is it possible, to build amd64/i386 live-file systems on an 
arm64 system (i.e. building amd64 kali livefile on a Raspberry Pi)?

I searched the web, but found no clear answer to that and think, someone 
experienced might can give me just a short answer.

Thanks for any feedback.

Best regards

Hans

Re: Instal·lar Debian 9 de cero... Es recomanable encriptar les particions?

[Alex Muntada]

Narcis Garcia:

> No aporta gaire avantatge que sigui el GRUB o que sigui initram
> el desbloquejador de l'encriptat, comparats amb si l'arrencada
> és de disc dur o externa (USB).

No hi estic d'acord. Això evita que el contingut de /boot es pugui
modificar sense que el sistema operatiu hagi arrencat. Si tens el
/boot en un disc extern, sense xifrar, no tens cap garantia que
no hagi estat modificat.

La diferència rau en què modificar un ramdisk i afegir un script
que capturi la contrasenya és trivial i en canvi substituir el
grub per un de diferent que faci el mateix no ho és gens. D'aquí
que no estigui d'acord amb la teva afirmació.

Ara bé, si vols tenir el /boot en un disc extern i també xifrat,
aleshores d'acord.

> Al cap i a la fi parlem de programari que ha de ser fora de
> l'encriptat per tal que la BIOS o EFI l'executi.

En aquest cas, potser també et pot interessar signar digitalment
el GRUB perquè l'EFI verifiqui la signatura en l'arrencada.

Salut,
Alex

Re: thunderbird problema configuracion de una cuenta con gmail

[JAP]

El 21/06/17 a las 08:51, Miguel Angel escribió:

Hola a todos. He instalado thunderbird en debian 9 y no puedo configurar
ninguna cuenta de gmail.

Cuando introduzco los datos de la cuenta de correo electrónico y su contraseña 
me reconoce el servidor y toda la configuración, acepto y me abre una ventana 
en la que me aparece mi correo y me pide que acepte para introducir las 
credenciales de google le doy a aceptar y ahi se queda ya no continua al 
siguiente paso.

Me han comentado que puede ser que tenga activado el sistema de doble 
autenticación de google, lo he mirado y no lo tengo activado.
Estoy utilizando debian 9 stretch y firefox ESR 52.2.0  64 BITS y thunderbird 
45.8.0. eL es que hace unos dos meses cuando debian stretch estaba en fase de 
congelacion con icedove instalado y con iceweasel no me dio ningun problema en 
la configuración de las cuentas de gmail.





Hola.
Primero, sigue ese enlace paso a paso:
http://www.configuraroutlook.com/es/thunderbirdgmail.php

Este otro es el "oficial", pero no es tan completo:
https://support.mozilla.org/es/kb/thunderbird-y-gmail

Regla de oro: HABILITAR ACCESO POP en la cuenta GMail.

Si no lo haces, no funciona.

La doble identificación nada tiene que ver; te aparecerá un mensaje en 
la cuenta de correo alternativa de que se está accediendo desde otro 
equipo y sistema. Si no lo bloqueas, nada pasa.


Complementos recomendados:
gContactSync
GoogleCalendarTab
Proveedor para Google Calendar

(Enviado desde Thunderbird 45.8.0 en Debian 9 ;)

JAP

Re: One problem identified - was [Re: ARandR problems: Bug or opderator?]

[Richard Owlett]

On 06/20/2017 07:20 PM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

On 06/20/2017 05:14 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 06/18/2017 05:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 06/17/2017 03:02 PM, Curt wrote:

On 2017-06-17, Richard Owlett  wrote:

I'm using Debian Testing on a Lenovo T510 Thinkpad whose screen is too
small and is in the "short and wide" category.
I prefer my 17" diagonal external with a nominal 4:3 aspect ratio.

I am using ARandR Screen Layout Editor 0.1.9.
It reports:
   laptop as1366 x 768  and normal orientation
   vga monitor as   1280 x 1024 and normal orientation

With those settings it _can_ and *FREQUENTLY* does display what
I want.
Generally it chooses not to :/


Frequently does but generally doesn't does not compute.



I'll stand by my summary statement as being literally true.

I'll rephrase it.

With those settings it _can_ display what I want.
[see procedure you snipped]
It FREQUENTLY it does display what I want.
[I had listed some.]
Generally it chooses not to :/
[More than 50% of the time it does not.]

This morning started off "worse" than usual.
However I've a gut feeling that I've wandered into at least a partial
explanation. I suspect some variable is "path dependent" rather than
"state dependent". I'll have to work out a test procedure to verity.



I've identified one problem source.
At least sometimes after a power off shut down it comes up with the
laptop display selected as primary.
How can I force it to always come up with the VGA monitor as primary?

I created /home/richard/.screenlayout/VGA-as-master.sh with preferred
settings back when I was experimenting. I had understood ARandR would
use it automatically. It evidently doesn't.


I would delete what you saved and then let arandr save the settings
and see if that works.


It didn't :{

All of my comments in this thread have been while working in my user 
account.


Things are worse in the root account. I don't seem to be able to 
permanently change not only which display is active but *ALSO* unable to 
save the resolution settings for the displays.


I now have:

As setup for user richard
  laptop as1366 x 768  and normal orientation
  vga monitor as   1280 x 1024 and normal orientation

As set up for user root
  laptop as1024 x 768  and normal orientation
  vga monitor as   1024 x 768  and normal orientation

Re: thunderbird problema configuracion de una cuenta con gmail

[claudio menet]

¿Probaste con otras opciones en la opción de identificación?

El día 21 de junio de 2017, 9:52, Miguel Angel
 escribió:
> Bueno he comprobado los puertos y son los que dice google. Evidentemente el
> usuario  y la contraseña son correctos.
>
> Adjunto imágenes de los pasos que he dado en el tercer paso se queda, no
> continua y no puedo configurar la cuenta.
>
> El 21 de junio de 2017, 14:05, claudio menet 
> escribió:
>>
>> Hola Miguel,
>>
>> ¿Verificaste la configuración de los puertos de IMAP y SMTP?
>>
>> En este link podes encontrar los puertos que utiliza Google.
>>
>> https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7126229?hl=es-419
>>
>> Saludos!
>>
>> El día 21 de junio de 2017, 8:51, Miguel Angel
>>  escribió:
>> > Hola a todos. He instalado thunderbird en debian 9 y no puedo configurar
>> > ninguna cuenta de gmail.
>> >
>> > Cuando introduzco los datos de la cuenta de correo electrónico y su
>> > contraseña me reconoce el servidor y toda la configuración, acepto y me
>> > abre
>> > una ventana en la que me aparece mi correo y me pide que acepte para
>> > introducir las credenciales de google le doy a aceptar y ahi se queda ya
>> > no
>> > continua al siguiente paso.
>> >
>> > Me han comentado que puede ser que tenga activado el sistema de doble
>> > autenticación de google, lo he mirado y no lo tengo activado.
>> > Estoy utilizando debian 9 stretch y firefox ESR 52.2.0  64 BITS y
>> > thunderbird 45.8.0. eL es que hace unos dos meses cuando debian stretch
>> > estaba en fase de congelacion con icedove instalado y con iceweasel no
>> > me
>> > dio ningun problema en la configuración de las cuentas de gmail.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>
>

Re: Preparando para atualizar o Debian 8 para o 9

[Fred Maranhão]

2017-06-20 15:26 GMT-03:00 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh :
> On Tue, 20 Jun 2017, Thiago C. F. wrote:
>> Então... eu tinha adicionado este repositório através de um tutorial na
>> internet ensinando o que fazer depois de instalar o Debian. Agora... a
>> dúvida é: É realmente necessário o repositório deb-multimedia.org?
>
> Depende muito.  Eu pessoalmente não sinto falta.

a alguns anos atrás eu usava para conseguir reproduzir alguns formatos
de vídeos. faz anos que não uso e não sinto falta.


>
> --
>   Henrique Holschuh
>

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

[Greg Wooledge]

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 03:39:42PM +0530, Avinash Sonawane wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Christian Seiler  wrote:
> Furthermore, this also suggests that the 'clear' and 'tput clear' in
> Stretch clear the scrollback buffer. But this isn't true either.
> 'clear' or 'tput clear' doesn't clear the scrollback buffer. I can
> still see the screenful of scrollback. (Please see the screenshots
> attached in the original post)
> 
> So 'clear' in Stretch doesn't do what it sets on to do.
> 
> I tried gnome-terminal, xfce4-terminal and terminator with the same
> observations as above.

If we're collecting data: in stretch, in rxvt-unicode, 'clear' and
'tput clear' do NOT erase the scrollback buffer.

In stretch, in xterm, both 'clear' and 'tput clear' DO erase the
scrollback buffer.

Yet another reason for me to continue using rxvt-unicode. :-)

RE: Debian 9 - Stretch has been released!

[Michael Milliman]

-Original Message-
From: Dalios [mailto:dal...@eumx.net] 
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:24 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian 9 - Stretch has been released!

On 06/18/2017 06:42 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
>   https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/
> 
> Cheers!
Prost!!
> 


I think these are better links as they are the official announcements and they 
contain other links (for example to available documentation).

[1] https://www.debian.org/News/2017/20170617
[2] https://bits.debian.org/2017/06/stretch-released.html


Anyway thanks to all Debian Developers, Maintainers, contributors, donators, 
volunteers, members of teams etc.

[3] https://www.debian.org/intro/organization
[4] https://wiki.debian.org/Teams
[5] https://nm.debian.org/public/people
[6] https://contributors.debian.org/
[7] https://www.debian.org/intro/help

Re: thunderbird problema configuracion de una cuenta con gmail

[claudio menet]

Hola Miguel,

¿Verificaste la configuración de los puertos de IMAP y SMTP?

En este link podes encontrar los puertos que utiliza Google.

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7126229?hl=es-419

Saludos!

El día 21 de junio de 2017, 8:51, Miguel Angel
 escribió:
> Hola a todos. He instalado thunderbird en debian 9 y no puedo configurar
> ninguna cuenta de gmail.
>
> Cuando introduzco los datos de la cuenta de correo electrónico y su
> contraseña me reconoce el servidor y toda la configuración, acepto y me abre
> una ventana en la que me aparece mi correo y me pide que acepte para
> introducir las credenciales de google le doy a aceptar y ahi se queda ya no
> continua al siguiente paso.
>
> Me han comentado que puede ser que tenga activado el sistema de doble
> autenticación de google, lo he mirado y no lo tengo activado.
> Estoy utilizando debian 9 stretch y firefox ESR 52.2.0  64 BITS y
> thunderbird 45.8.0. eL es que hace unos dos meses cuando debian stretch
> estaba en fase de congelacion con icedove instalado y con iceweasel no me
> dio ningun problema en la configuración de las cuentas de gmail.
>
>
>

ISDB-Tb tuner cx23885 not working anymore

[Wellington Terumi Uemura]

It was working back in Debian 8, now looks like is broken...
insmod 
/lib/modules/4.9.0-3-amd64/kernel/drivers/media/pci/cx23885/cx23885.ko 
card=33


lsmod|grep 23885
cx23885   176128  0
altera_ci  20480  1 cx23885
tda18271   49152  1 cx23885
altera_stapl   32768  1 cx23885
m88ds3103  32768  1 cx23885
tveeprom   24576  1 cx23885
cx2341x24576  1 cx23885
videobuf2_dvb  16384  1 cx23885
dvb_core  122880  4 m88ds3103,altera_ci,videobuf2_dvb,cx23885
rc_core28672  1 cx23885
v4l2_common16384  2 cx2341x,cx23885
videobuf2_dma_sg   16384  1 cx23885
videobuf2_v4l2 24576  1 cx23885
videobuf2_core 36864  3 videobuf2_dvb,cx23885,videobuf2_v4l2
videodev  176128  5 
cx2341x,v4l2_common,videobuf2_core,cx23885,videobuf2_v4l2
snd_pcm   110592  6 
snd_oxygen_lib,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,cx23885
snd86016  28 
snd_oxygen_lib,snd_hda_intel,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_codec,snd_timer,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_seq_device,snd_virtuoso,cx23885,snd_pcm


Is not even listed, no errors, nothing.
00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD9x0/RX980 
Host Bridge (rev 02)
00:00.2 IOMMU: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD890S/RD990 I/O 
Memory Management Unit (IOMMU)
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
RD890/RD9x0/RX980 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI Express GFX port 0)
00:09.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
RD890/RD9x0/RX980 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI Express GPP Port 4)
00:0a.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
RD890/RD9x0/RX980 PCI to PCI bridge (PCI Express GPP Port 5)
00:0c.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD890/RD990 
PCI to PCI bridge (PCI Express GFX2 port 1)
00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] (rev 40)
00:12.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:12.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:13.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:13.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 SMBus 
Controller (rev 42)
00:14.1 IDE interface: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 IDE Controller (rev 40)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller (rev 40)
00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 PCI to 
PCI Bridge (rev 40)
00:14.5 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller
00:15.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
SB700/SB800/SB900 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0)
00:15.2 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB900 PCI to 
PCI bridge (PCIE port 2)
00:15.3 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SB900 PCI to 
PCI bridge (PCIE port 3)
00:16.0 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:16.2 USB controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h 
Processor Function 0
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h 
Processor Function 1
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h 
Processor Function 2
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h 
Processor Function 3
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h 
Processor Function 4
00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 15h 
Processor Function 5
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. 
[AMD/ATI] Cape Verde PRO [Radeon HD 7750/8740 / R7 250E]
01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Cape 
Verde/Pitcairn HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 7700/7800 Series]
02:00.0 USB controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VL805 USB 3.0 Host 
Controller (rev 01)
03:00.0 SATA controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE9172 SATA 
6Gb/s Controller (rev 12)
04:00.0 PCI bridge: ASMedia Technology Inc. ASM1083/1085 PCIe to PCI 
Bridge (rev 03)
05:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8788 
[Oxygen HD Audio]
07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 0c)
08:00.0 SATA controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE9172 SATA 
6Gb/s Controller (rev 12)

09:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Blackmagic Design Intensity Pro

Later I've found this bug entry:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=860399

Any updates?

thunderbird problema configuracion de una cuenta con gmail

[Miguel Angel]

Hola a todos. He instaladothunderbird en debian 9 y no puedo configurar
ninguna cuenta de gmail.

Cuando introduzco los datos de la cuenta de correo electrónico y su contraseña 
me reconoce el servidor y toda la configuración, acepto y me abre una ventana 
en la que me aparece mi correo y me pide que acepte para introducir las 
credenciales de google le doy a aceptar y ahi se queda ya no continua al 
siguiente paso.

Me han comentado que puede ser que tenga activado el sistema de doble 
autenticación de google, lo he mirado y no lo tengo activado.
Estoy utilizando debian 9 stretch y firefox ESR 52.2.0  64 BITS y thunderbird 
45.8.0. eL es que hace unos dos meses cuando debian stretch estaba en fase de 
congelacion con icedove instalado y con iceweasel no me dio ningun problema en 
la configuración de las cuentas de gmail.

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

[Avinash Sonawane]

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Christian Seiler  wrote:

> So what happened is that 'tput clear' in Stretch now behaves the
> same as 'clear', while the version in Jessie of 'tput clear'
> wouldn't clear the scrollback buffer.

Furthermore, this also suggests that the 'clear' and 'tput clear' in
Stretch clear the scrollback buffer. But this isn't true either.
'clear' or 'tput clear' doesn't clear the scrollback buffer. I can
still see the screenful of scrollback. (Please see the screenshots
attached in the original post)

So 'clear' in Stretch doesn't do what it sets on to do.

I tried gnome-terminal, xfce4-terminal and terminator with the same
observations as above.

-- 
Avinash Sonawane (rootKea)
PICT, Pune
https://rootkea.wordpress.com

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

[Christian Seiler]

Hi,

Am 2017-06-21 11:57, schrieb Avinash Sonawane:
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Christian Seiler  
wrote:

So what happened is that 'tput clear' in Stretch now behaves the
same as 'clear', while the version in Jessie of 'tput clear'
wouldn't clear the scrollback buffer.


This suggests that the version of 'clear' in Jessie used to clear the
scrollback buffer.
But that's untrue. I have always used 'clear' to clear the screen in
Jessie. And it never cleared the scrollback buffer. (I'm not sure
about 'tput clear' though. Haven't used that much)


I see two possible explanations for the behavior you're seeing:

 a. The terminal program you're using doesn't like the additional ';'
character in the escape sequence that 'clear' on Jessie was
sending, so ignored the escape sequence entirely. In that case
it only interpreted '\033[H\033[2J'.

Reminder: 'clear' on Jessie would send:   \033[3;J\033[H\033[2J
  'clear' on Stretch would send:  \033[3J\033[H\033[2J
  On the Linux text console \033[3J and \033[3;J both
  clear the scrollback buffer completely, at least with
  kernel 4.9.

 b. The terminal program you're using changed behavior between
Jessie and Stretch. For example, KDE's 'konsole' terminal program
will _not_ clear the scrollback buffer with either one of these
commands:

  printf '\033[3J\033[H\033[2J'
  tput clear
  clear

It may be that your terminal program used to ignore the sequence
as well in Jessie, but implemented it in Stretch.

(Funnily enough, just found out, KDE's 'konsole' will clear it
if you just issue \033[3J - but once you issue a \033[2J again,
it will restore the buffer once more. Really weird.)

You can test which one of these is the case by using the following
commands:

printf '\033[3;J\033[H\033[2J'

printf '\033[3J\033[H\033[2J'

If the first one doesn't erase the scrollback buffer, but the second
one does, then you know that your program doesn't support the escape
sequence that Jessie's clear sent, but does support the one that
Stretch sent. (Case a.) If in both cases the scrollback buffer is
erased, then it's likely that the behavior of your terminal program
changed between Jessie and Stretch. (Case b.)

Regards,
Christian

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

[Avinash Sonawane]

First of all, thank you very much for that informative email!

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:36 PM, Christian Seiler  wrote:

> So what happened is that 'tput clear' in Stretch now behaves the
> same as 'clear', while the version in Jessie of 'tput clear'
> wouldn't clear the scrollback buffer.

This suggests that the version of 'clear' in Jessie used to clear the
scrollback buffer.
But that's untrue. I have always used 'clear' to clear the screen in
Jessie. And it never cleared the scrollback buffer. (I'm not sure
about 'tput clear' though. Haven't used that much)

Regards,
Avinash Sonawane (rootKea)
PICT, Pune
https://rootkea.wordpress.com

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

[Avinash Sonawane]

On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Sven Joachim  wrote:

> I just want to add that every reasonable shell lets you clear the screen
> while preserving the scrollback buffer, simply press Control-L.

Thank you! I had completely forgotten the form feed!
-- 
Avinash Sonawane (rootKea)
PICT, Pune
https://rootkea.wordpress.com

Re: Upgrade de Jessie

[Jean-Marc]

Wed, 21 Jun 2017 03:28:04 -0400
Frédéric Dugardin  écrivait :

salut Frédéric,

> Personnellement upgrade sans encombre sur un vieux portable orienté desktop. 
> Juste un petit conflit libinput vs synaptics résolu rapidement grâce aux 
> nombreux sites web qui parlent de Debian.

Comment as-tu résolu ce problème ?

Je pose la question parce que synaptic était utilisé et installé 
automatiquement dans le passé.

Il a été remplacé par libinput.

Malheureusement, la transition ne me semble pas optinale.


Jean-Marc 


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Re: Superblock last write time is in the future.

[Michael Biebl]

Am 21.06.2017 um 07:43 schrieb Wellington Terumi Uemura:

>  RTC in local TZ: yes
> 
> The bugreport show that this has been patched, anything else I could do
> to stop running system check/clean every time I boot?

I would set the system clock from LOCAL to UTC (see /etc/adjtime)


-- 
Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the
universe are pointed away from Earth?



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Scanner Canon Lide 120

[Raphaël POITEVIN]

Bonjour,

Cet appareil est déclaré comme supporté par sane, mais apparemment pas
celui de jessie.

Tenté d’ajouter un fichier de conf dans /etc/sane.d/canonlide120.conf
avec les lignes :
# Canon LiDE 120
usb 0x04a9 0x190e

Pas plus visible après.

Une expérience sur ce modèle ?

Un grand merci,
-- 
Raphaël POITEVIN
Hypra S.A.S.

Re: Debian 9.0.0 iso

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 06/21/2017 02:17 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote:

philwy...@kathenas.org wrote:

On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 07:43 +0300, Dalios wrote:

On 06/21/2017 06:35 AM, sare...@att.net wrote:

The full version of Debian 9.0.0 iso will not install from a flash
drive. It boots
into the live desktop with no option to install to hard drive. The
CD version will
install. The one from the flash drive looks for a CD after
choosing the language and
keyboard language. What is wrong with your iso's. I have installed
many Linux and
Debian systems and never had any problems with installing from
flash drives.


Hi sarez,

what do you mean by "The full version of Debian 9.0.0 iso"? Can you
give
the link from the page you downloaded it?


Hi,

I believe the user means the 9 live images that have a known issue and
will not install at this time. The issue is being worked on and
hopefully new/fixed live images will be released very soon.


+1


In fact, I've just published them now.


 https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/

Cheers,
--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Wheezy - KDE 4.8.4 - Intel E5300 - EXT4 at sda8
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Debian 9.0.0 iso

[Steve McIntyre]

philwy...@kathenas.org wrote:
>On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 07:43 +0300, Dalios wrote:
>> On 06/21/2017 06:35 AM, sare...@att.net wrote:
>> > The full version of Debian 9.0.0 iso will not install from a flash
>> > drive. It boots
>> > into the live desktop with no option to install to hard drive. The
>> > CD version will
>> > install. The one from the flash drive looks for a CD after
>> > choosing the language and
>> > keyboard language. What is wrong with your iso's. I have installed
>> > many Linux and
>> > Debian systems and never had any problems with installing from
>> > flash drives. 
>> 
>> Hi sarez,
>> 
>> what do you mean by "The full version of Debian 9.0.0 iso"? Can you
>> give
>> the link from the page you downloaded it?
>
>Hi,
>
>I believe the user means the 9 live images that have a known issue and
>will not install at this time. The issue is being worked on and
>hopefully new/fixed live images will be released very soon.

In fact, I've just published them now.

-- 
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  Honor, Integrity and Loyalty. Now you don't have to be a Caesar to
  concord the digital world while feeling safe and proud.

Re: Upgrade de Jessie

[Frédéric Dugardin]

Bonjour Jean-Marc,

j'ai simplement enlevé synaptics ( sudo apt-get remove synaptics si ma mémoire 
est bonne) en croisant les doigts certes.
Du coup j'ai bien récupéré le tap to clic ainsi que le defilement sur le pad, 
ce qui n'est certes pas obligatoire mais bien pratique.

A plus.

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Upgrade de Jessie
Local Time: June 21, 2017 11:09 AM
UTC Time: June 21, 2017 9:09 AM
From: jean-m...@6jf.be
To: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org
Frédéric Dugardin 

Wed, 21 Jun 2017 03:28:04 -0400
Frédéric Dugardin écrivait :

salut Frédéric,

 Personnellement upgrade sans encombre sur un vieux portable orienté 
desktop. Juste un petit conflit libinput vs synaptics résolu rapidement grâce 
aux nombreux sites web qui parlent de Debian.

Comment as-tu résolu ce problème ?

Je pose la question parce que synaptic était utilisé et installé 
automatiquement dans le passé.

Il a été remplacé par libinput.

Malheureusement, la transition ne me semble pas optinale.

Jean-Marc

Re: Debian 8.8 a debian 9 problemes amb nou nucli 4.9.0-3-amd64

[Sergi Baila]

Bon dia debianites.

Potser no exactament el tema del fil però sembla que coincidint amb la
sortida de Debian 9 s'han actualitzat els kernels de Debian 7, 8 i 9 a una
versió que incorpora una mitigació d'atacs (CVE-2017-1000364) que sembla
que està causant problemes.

Jo ho he descobert perquè tinc un controlador unifi que m'ha deixat de
funcionar.

Foro d'Ubiquity:
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Wireless/Unifi-Controller-on-Debian-9/td-p/1967180

Així que els que tingueu problemes podeu provar de fer un downgrade només
del kernel i potser us arregla els problemes.

Salut!

El dt., 20 de juny 2017 a les 14:29, Marcfp Gmail ()
va escriure:

> Joan jo estic amb jessie, vaig provar d'actualitzar i vaig veure bugs en
> el grub i no recordo quins altres paquets vaig cancelar
> l'actualització...
> No em corre pressa, a més ara m'arriben dims de ram així ho veuré diferent
> fent un upgrade de sistema i de ram...
>
> On 19 de juny de 2017 22:30:23 CEST, Joan  wrote:
>>
>> M'esteu treient les ganes d'actualitzar...
>>
>> De fet, per prudència sempre penso que és millor esperar uns dies, un
>> mes... perquè quan es llença la nova versió, els testadors deuen passar
>> a ser moltíssims i potser és més fàcil que arreglin coses d'aquestes...
>>
>> Joan
>>
>> El Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:12:41 +0200
>> Josep Lladonosa  va escriure:
>>
>>  2017-06-18 17:32 GMT+02:00 Jaume Barceló :
>>>
>>>  Després de l'actualització (*) el nucli 4.9.0-3-amd64 no em llista
  els usuaris. Em queda amb un fons de pantalla i no puc fer res.
  Reiniciant i triant el nucli antic 3.16.0-4-amd64 puc entrar. Tinc
  arrencada dual win10/debian EFI/grub
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  A mi m'ha passat, en Ubuntu, però, que determinades versions de nuclis
>>>  tenen errades amb temes gràfics i aleshores no s'inicialitzen bé i,
>>>  bé no apareix entorn gràfic (sobretot entorns amb nvidia), bé els
>>>  gràfics es tornen lents apareixent errors de coredump al dmesg.
>>>  Efectivament passant a una altra compilació de nucli es resol el
>>>  tema...
>>>
>>>  Salutacions,
>>>  Josep
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
  Algun suggeriment?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Reportar el bug i esperar a una següent versió de nucli? :-/
>>>
>>>
>>>
  (*) http://nerea.cat/gnu/debian9.txt

  --
  Salut i força!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>
-- 

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Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

[Sven Joachim]

On 2017-06-20 17:20 +0530, Avinash Sonawane wrote:

> I just upgraded to Stretch from Jessie and I'm experiencing this weird
> issue with xfce4-terminal. Whenever I type "clear" on terminal it
> clears the terminal (that's expected!) *but* now I can scrollback only
> a screenful. Earlier text n terminal is just can't be scrollbacked to.
> Here are the screenshots https://imgur.com/a/aPD4F Please observe the
> scrollbar.
>
> xfce4 -terminal version 0.8.3
>
>
> Any pointers?

Others have already answered your question about the "clear" command, I
just want to add that every reasonable shell lets you clear the screen
while preserving the scrollback buffer, simply press Control-L.

Cheers,
   Sven

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

[Christian Seiler]

Am 2017-06-21 10:06, schrieb Christian Seiler:

'clear' and 'tput clear' are identical in Stretch, both are from
ncurses-bin. This was not true in Jessie though, ncurses did
change behavior between Jessie and Stretch.


By the way. in case anyone was wondering:

Upstream changelog about how clear and tput clear are now
identical:
http://invisible-island.net/ncurses/NEWS.html#t20161022

Clearing the scrollback buffer is actually desired behavior,
see also:

http://invisible-island.net/ncurses/NEWS.html#t20130622
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815790
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/87469/clearing-the-old-scrollback-buffer

And this is apparently documented now:

http://invisible-island.net/ncurses/NEWS.html#t20161119
https://manpages.debian.org/stretch/ncurses-bin/clear.1.en.html

Regards,
Christian

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

[Christian Seiler]

Am 2017-06-21 05:57, schrieb Avinash Sonawane:
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:26 AM, Larry Dighera  
wrote:



Try: tput clear


Right. My bad! I already did that. But I have always considered
`clear` and `tput clear` to be the same so I didn't mention it before.
Anyways I got exactly same behavior with `tput clear`.


'clear' and 'tput clear' are identical in Stretch, both are from
ncurses-bin. This was not true in Jessie though, ncurses did
change behavior between Jessie and Stretch.

The following escape sequences are printed by clear / tput clear:

|  Jessie |  Stretch
+-+
clear   |  \033[3;J\033[H\033[2J  |  \033[3J\033[H\033[2J
tput clear  |  \033[H\033[2J  |  \033[3J\033[H\033[2J


To decode them (man 4 console_codes):

 \033[3J or \033[3;J
   clear the entire scrollback buffer
 \033[H
   go to position on the screen,
   default: top left corner
 \033[2J
   clear entire screen

So what happened is that 'tput clear' in Stretch now behaves the
same as 'clear', while the version in Jessie of 'tput clear'
wouldn't clear the scrollback buffer.

Furthermore, whether the scrollback buffer is actually cleared is
also up to the program managing the buffer; the Linux text console
respects that, but e.g. 'Konsole' from KDE doesn't, there \033[3J
has the same effect as \033[2J - the scrollback buffer remains
intact regardless. (At least in the default settings, haven't
checked if that behavior can be changed.) It could also be that
the terminal emulator you're using has also changed it's behavior.

In any case: if you want 'clear' to act the same way 'tput clear'
acted in Jessie, you can simply add

alias clear="printf '\033[H\033[2J'"

to your .bashrc (or similar if you're using a different shell),
that should get you the behavior you had beforehand. [1]

Regards,
Christian

[1] Technically this alias is not 100% correct, as both 'clear'
and 'tput clear' will interpret the TERM environment variable and
make sure that the sequences they send out are actually understood
by the terminal. However, in practice any terminal you're going to
use this on is going to support this specific sequence, so you
don't need to worry about these details. In case you're accessing
from ancient terminal hardware (think 70s mainframes or similar)
this alias might not work though.

Re: [Stretch]Typing ""clear" on terminal restricts the scrollback to only a screenful

[tomas]

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On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 09:27:45AM +0530, Avinash Sonawane wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 3:26 AM, Larry Dighera  wrote:
> 
> > Try: tput clear
> 
> Right. My bad! I already did that. But I have always considered
> `clear` and `tput clear` to be the same so I didn't mention it before.
> Anyways I got exactly same behavior with `tput clear`.

They do *nearly* the same:

  tomas@rasputin:~$ clear | hexdump -C
    1b 5b 33 3b 4a 1b 5b 48  1b 5b 32 4a  |.[3;J.[H.[2J|
  000c
  tomas@rasputin:~$ tput clear | hexdump -C
    1b 5b 48 1b 5b 32 4a  |.[H.[2J|
  0007

(FWIW: my terminal is a straight xterm, and TERM=xterm).

Mystery? Well, clear's manpage says:

   clear  clears your screen if this is possible, including its
   scrollback buffer (if the extended "E3" capability is defined)
   [...]

so this "ESC[3;J" at the beginning of clear seem to be this magical
scrollback buffer thingy. Too pressed to actually look things up,
though :)

cheers
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Re: Upgrade de Jessie

[Frédéric Dugardin]

Personnellement upgrade sans encombre sur un vieux portable orienté desktop. 
Juste un petit conflit libinput vs synaptics résolu rapidement grâce aux 
nombreux sites web qui parlent de Debian.

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Upgrade de Jessie
Local Time: June 21, 2017 12:20 AM
UTC Time: June 20, 2017 10:20 PM
From: g...@visionduweb.com
To: debian-user-french@lists.debian.org

Le 20/06/2017 à 19:57, maderios a écrit :
> On 06/20/2017 06:00 PM, andre_deb...@numericable.fr wrote:
>
>> C"est comme les toutes nouvelles voitures, mieux vaut attendre
>> avant de l"acheter, laissons les cobayes le soin de les tester... :-)
>>
> Bonjour
> Les cobayes qui mettent les mains dans le cambouis afin que tu puisses
> utiliser sans te fatiguer une Debian qui marche te saluent...
>
Au boulot les cobayes, et, les dév.

Re: Instal·lar Debian 9 de cero... Es recomanable encriptar les particions?

[Narcis Garcia]

No aporta gaire avantatge que sigui el GRUB o que sigui initram el
desbloquejador de l'encriptat, comparats amb si l'arrencada és de disc
dur o externa (USB).
Al cap i a la fi parlem de programari que ha de ser fora de l'encriptat
per tal que la BIOS o EFI l'executi.



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I'm using this express-made address because personal addresses aren't
masked enough at this list's archives. Mailing lists service
administrator should fix this.
El 20/06/17 a les 16:03, Alex Muntada ha escrit:
> Pedro:
> 
>> alguna guia que recomanis o sabries explicar breument com fer
>> lo de entrar xifrar disc i desbloquejar-lo amb el llapis USB?
> 
> En teoria és fàcil utilitzant l'ordre «cryptsetup luksAddKey».
> 
> Fa poc em vaig assabentar que el GRUB té suport per luks i que
> és possible configurar el xifrat del disc sencer sense tenir
> el /boot fora, però no he pogut provar-ho encara:
> 
> http://www.pavelkogan.com/2014/05/23/luks-full-disk-encryption/
> http://www.pavelkogan.com/2015/01/25/linux-mint-encryption/
> 
> Salut!
> Alex
> 

Re: Debian 9.0.0 iso

[Phil Wyett]

On Wed, 2017-06-21 at 07:43 +0300, Dalios wrote:
> On 06/21/2017 06:35 AM, sare...@att.net wrote:
> > The full version of Debian 9.0.0 iso will not install from a flash
> > drive. It boots
> > into the live desktop with no option to install to hard drive. The
> > CD version will
> > install. The one from the flash drive looks for a CD after
> > choosing the language and
> > keyboard language. What is wrong with your iso's. I have installed
> > many Linux and
> > Debian systems and never had any problems with installing from
> > flash drives. 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi sarez,
> 
> what do you mean by "The full version of Debian 9.0.0 iso"? Can you
> give
> the link from the page you downloaded it?
> 
> 
> Dalios
> 

Hi,

I believe the user means the 9 live images that have a known issue and
will not install at this time. The issue is being worked on and
hopefully new/fixed live images will be released very soon.

Regards

Phil

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Phil Wyett

Playing the game, for the games sake.

Twitter: kathenasorg

Website: https://kathenas.org


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