Cannot use APM or ACPI with kernel-image-2.6.6

2004-06-15 Thread David Kanter
I'm using the stock kernel-image-2.6.6-i686 and my desktop is unable to
use either APM or ACPI, both of which are built-in.

BIOS has power-saving turned on, with the timer set to 30 minutes. When
booting the stock kernel, I get a message that my BIOS is from before
1999 and I cannot use ACPI. Then I get a message that apm was loaded.

However, even with apm loaded the desktop never goes into power-saving
mode.

So I tried acpi=force, and this is what I get:

Linux version 2.6.6-1-686 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.3 (Debian 20040401)) #1 
Wed May 12 14:57:57 EST 2004

snip

ACPI: RSDP (v000 PTLTD ) @ 0x000f6ac0
ACPI: RSDT (v001 PTLTDRSDT   0x PTL  0x0100) @ 0x040fdd77
ACPI: FADT (v001 DELL   KHAN 0x19990921 PTL  0x000f4240) @ 0x040ff78c
ACPI: DSDT (v001  DellKhan   0x MSFT 0x0104) @ 0x
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x8008
Built 1 zonelists
Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda6 ro acpi=force 
Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling.
Found and enabled local APIC!

snip

ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040326
ACPI: IRQ9 SCI: Level Trigger.
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 10 *11 12)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 9 *10 11 12)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 *5 7 9 10 11 12)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 7 *9 10 11 12)

snip

ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 9
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 10
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 5
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing

snip

ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S5)

How can I configure my kernel to respond to the BIOS calls for either
APM or ACPI?

Thanks,
Dave

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How to make my own .debs

2004-06-06 Thread David Kanter
Is there a simple way for someone to make his own .deb from a downloaded 
tarball? I've read the New Maintainer's Guide but that doesn't seem to 
be geared toward the Average Joe who wants to make one or two informal 
.debs.

I'm not interested in building tarballs that are apt-get'able. For 
instance, I may want to build a CVS version of a program.

I've been using Slackware, where I: ./configure, make, make 
DESTDIR=$TEMPDIR install, then create my Slackware .tgz. Very simple. 
What is the Debian way of doing this?

I've noticed that some tarballs already have a debian/ directory. What 
is the build process when this occurs?

Thanks,
Dave
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Power management with 2.4 kernel

2004-03-01 Thread David Kanter
I was able to use power management on my desktop with kernel 2.4.22 but
once I upgraded to another 2.4.X kernel I started having problems. The
desktop would go into power-saving mode but would not wake up no matter
what I tried.

I installed Debian from the beta 2 installer, and am running unstable:

Linux 2.4.25-1-686 #1 Tue Feb 24 10:55:59 EST 2004 GNU/Linux

With kernel 2.4.22 I enabled power management in the BIOS and placed
apm in /etc/modules. Everything worked fine. But once I upgraded the
obsolete kernel, the machine would drop into the power-saving mode but
not wake up. I would move the mouse, hit the keyboard, and get nothing.
The only thing I could do was reboot the machine with the reset button.
This happened whether I had apm in /etc/modules or not. (That is, in
both instances power-saving was turned on in the BIOS.)

Here is some ACPI-related dmesg output:

 BIOS-e820: 040fdc00 - 040ff800 (ACPI data)
 BIOS-e820: 040ff800 - 040ffc00 (ACPI NVS)
ACPI: have wakeup address 0xc0001000
ACPI disabled because your bios is from 99 and too old
You can enable it with acpi=force
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20040116
ACPI: Interpreter disabled.
PCI: ACPI tables contain no PCI IRQ routing entries

Any ideas? Thanks.


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Re: Power management with 2.4 kernel

2004-03-01 Thread David Kanter
On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 04:34:18PM +0100, Israel Herraiz Tabernero wrote:
 It seems your motherboard only supports APM, so you should specify
 append=apm=on acpi=off in your /etc/lilo.conf, and remove all the
 acpi related packages (such as acpid).

I just added this to lilo.conf, then put apm in /etc/modules. However, 
I'm still having the same problem where the desktop goes to sleep but 
can't wake up.

Do I need to install the apmd program?


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Re: Power management with 2.4 kernel

2004-03-01 Thread David Kanter
On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 10:11:08PM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote:
 I wasn't clear from your message, how are you turning off you machine?
 apm suspend usually (always?) requires a dedicated partition (which
 usually needs to be created using a dedicated tool under M$) into which
 it stores the memory, do you have that (output of fdisk -l may help)

Acutally, it's a desktop. And I do not have a dedicated partition.

 Was changing the kernel accompanied with reinstallation or was it just
 a kernel upgrade?

Just a kernel upgrade.


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Install help needed/New tulip drivers

2001-01-21 Thread David Kanter
I'd like to install Debian but have a slight problem: my Ethernet card
(ADMtek 983) requires the latest tulip drivers.

I have a DSL connection with PPPoE. I'd like to install a bare-bones base
system and install the remaining components via apt-get. The new drivers are
available in rpm format, and I can build a custom rpm for the drivers
(that's the recommended method) to install.

So my question is, what must I get to do this? What should I download so I
can get that base system up, build that rpm for kernel modules, and then
install the remaining system via pppoe?

Thanks.



Re: From field in the 'mail' program

2000-03-25 Thread David Kanter
On Sat, Mar 25, 2000 at 01:27:38PM +0100, Attila Csosz wrote:
 How could I set a mail address (like in this mail) in the 'mail' program?
---end quoted text---

One way is to have your MTA re-write whatever you've got (which I think is
the best way), or in your .muttrc:

my_hdr From: whatever you want here

...and then you'll probably have to set_hdrs in the rc as well.
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Re: Procmailrc ?

2000-03-18 Thread David Kanter
I happened to see this in the www.procmail.org mailing list archives
yesterday. Sorry I don't know the answer off the top of my head, but it's
there.

On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 04:17:56PM -0600, Lance Hoffmeyer wrote:
 I keep getting a Suspecious rc file /home/lance/.procmailrc Coundn't 
 read rc file when I fetchmail -m 'procmail' and get mail from my ISP.
---end quoted text---

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Is frozen's ppp broken?

2000-02-13 Thread David Kanter
I just did an apt-get dist-upgrade to the newest frozen packages; upgrading ppp
REMOVED ppp-pam. Now I cannot connect to the Internet via Debian. I've got to
use Mandrake instead.

Is this some wierd dependency problem?

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Token ring error messages

1999-11-18 Thread David Kanter
I have compiled the 2.2.10 kernel for Token Rings with use of the Tropic 
module. I have an IBM ISA Token Ring card. However, the boot-up process freezes 
partway through the Token Ring phase.

During boot-up, I can see messages like the Token Ring's hardware address, and 
something about 16MBps.

But after that, I get a screen filled with garbage. What's listed are things 
like: Process swapper, Stack, Call Trace, Code, and at the bottom is a flashing 
NMI IOCK error (debug interrupt?).

Any ideas? I also have Plug and Play enabled in the kernel. Ideally, I'd like 
to get this working and then hook-up via a DHCP server.

Thanks.




Can Debian, Novell, Token Ring and DHCP all get along?

1999-10-20 Thread David Kanter
I'd like to use Debian (Slink) on my work computer because of the free tools 
I'll need to do some Web page designing. Currently we use Windows NT and are 
hooked up through a token-ring network using DHCP and Novell's 
Netware/GroupWise.

The basic question is: Will I be able to hook my Slink box up to the company's 
network and have access to the T1 Internet line and networked printers?

I just installed Slink with these modules enabled: ncpfs, vfat, ipx, lp, psaux, 
bsd_comp, ibmtr (with io=0xa20, irq=0), ppp and slhc.

During setup I left the netowrk connection broken: I left the hostname as 
debian and didn't configure exim.

Looking at the NT IP Config program, this is the information I know. Could 
someone help me out to get dhcp working with this box? (I have read the dhcp 
and ipx HOWTOs)

Hostname: (machine ID).chi.bcbsil.com (I'm not sure if I should give this out)
DNS server: 172.17.248.1
IBM Auto 16/4 Token-Ring ISA Adapter
Subnet mask: 255.255.0.0
Default gateway 172.17.1.1
DHCP server: 172.17.245.101

There is not information (i.e., blank) for:

Primary WINS server and Secondary WINS server.

When I log in each morning, I must provide my username and password, in a 
Netware login box, in order to hook up to the network. When would I provide 
this info for Slink?

If anyone needs more info, I'll provide it. Any help would be greatly 
appreciated; I've tried doing this with Red Hat before, but I couldn't figure 
it out.

Thanks,
Dave

Disclaimer: The views here are not necessarily those of this company. Actually, 
they're probably not.


I goofed: No floppy module

1999-10-20 Thread David Kanter
When installing Slink today, I must have neglected the floppy module, because 
now I cannot use /dev/fd0. (Was the module even listed in the block devices?) 
That means I couldn't make a boot floppy.

What I've been doing is booting off of CDROM1 and typing rescue root=/dev/hda5 
at the boot: prompt. It works

I unloaded the kernel source file, and have a floppy.c on my disk, but how can 
I turn that into a loadable module?

Do I have to go and recompile the who kernel just beause of this small mistake?

Thanks,
Dave


Re: eterm: mutt slrn

1999-10-15 Thread David Kanter
I'm not sure about using menus, but I've done the two-icon thing just using 
xterm. In xterm, I did this:

xterm -name Mutt -title E-Mail -e mutt 
xterm -name Slrn -title News -e slrn 

This lets me chose a separate appicon for one without affecting the other. 
Since Exit session in Wmaker saves everything in place, I don't see the need 
for menus. Or if you want, just do the above commands and dock the two appicons.

 J Horacio MG [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/15/99 5:19:05 AM 
I'm trying to have both mutt and slrn iconized and using eterm.  I added
the following lines in /GNUstep/Library/WindowMaker/menu.hook:

mutt-e EXEC Eterm -T mutt-e -e /usr/local/bin/mutt
slrn-e EXEC Eterm -T slrn-e -e /usr/bin/slrn

but if I change the icon for, say, mutt, it also changes the icon for
slrn (and viceversa)... how can I have a differente icon for each one?



Re: True Type font server gives me weird default font

1999-10-08 Thread David Kanter
Did you have unix/:7101 as the first FontPath entry? If so, move it to the end 
of the list and restart. Should work fine then.

-Dave

 Peter S Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/8/99 1:35:54 PM 

I thought I had configured the true-type font server a few weeks
ago, but now I restarted X and all applications for which I don't
specify a font are presented in a huge ugly font.

The output of xlsfont suggests that ttf are installed and
visible.

Anyone know what I'm talking about?  How to fix it?

I had to put this in ~/.Xdefualts to get sanity back:

*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-100-100-100-c-70-iso8859-1

(Yeah, I know it's not a true type, but by default I don't want
proportionnal fonts.  Are there fixed TTF?)

Thanks,
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Slrnpull and denied access to out.going

1999-10-05 Thread David Kanter
First off, I have read the README.Debian file in /usr/doc/slrnpull/, but I 
still cannot get slrnpull to accept my outgoing messages when running slrn in 
spool mode. (Incidentally, is there a way to run slrnpull as non-root?)

As suggested, I did: adduser david news, adding me to the news group. (I 
elected not to chmod 777 on the out.going directory since that seemed the more 
pernicious approach.) However, I still get messages that access is denied to 
the out.going group.

Is there something I'm missing here? Should I (david) be added to group news 
AND chmod 777 on the out.going directory? I've tried posting an article to 
comp.os.linux.setup about 5 times but the access denied message keeps getting 
in my way. And what security holes are there, if any, by adding david to group 
news?

Help...

Thanks.


Clock is loosing time

1999-10-05 Thread David Kanter
Why is the time as shown by asclock drifting so far from the real time? Does 
Linux read the BIOS time, and therefore my BIOS clock is losing time quickly, 
or is something else going on? Now the time is off by about 15 minutes, and it 
makes crontab jobs sort of tricky.

Is there a way to sync the time with a server when I start a PPP, so I won't 
have to worry about this in the future? I vaguely remember a mention of this 
when installing Slink.

Thanks,
Dave


apt-ing unstable files for a stable box

1999-09-30 Thread David Kanter
Is this bad: having a stable box (i.e., Slink) but using apt to update some 
files from the unstable tree?

Here's why: I have Slink and downloaded Netscape 4.61 from the unstable tree. 
Why? Getting a stable Netscape never seemed to work; not all the necessary 
files would download, so I opted to go for the unstable mirror, which has a 
nice meta package for Netscape.

Thanks,
Dave


Exim re-writing help

1999-09-30 Thread David Kanter
I would like to rewrite my address with exim. (I only send outgoing mail to the 
Internet; no local mail.) I've read the documentation, but am still a bit 
confused on exactly how to set up the re-write. I would like [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
(i.e., [EMAIL PROTECTED]) to be re-written to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (either that or 
[EMAIL PROTECTED], which is easier to read).

From what I've read, I should do something like:

*@@ [EMAIL PROTECTED] then all the flags

But where should I put the $0, $1, and $2 re-write definitions? I'm assuming:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
$1=pcr387
$2=hecky.acns.nwu.edu

But the documentation (Exim manual) implies that:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
$1=david
$2=milwaukee

...so I'm confused as to which is right. How close am I to doing this correctly?

Thanks,
Dave


Kernel question: From bootdisk to hard drive

1999-09-30 Thread David Kanter
I've got a custom bootdisk that works fine. I moved the kernel to my home 
directory using dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/david/vmlinuz. (I also used cat 
/dev/fd0  /home/david/vmlinuz and it did the same thing.)

Everything is OK, except the file size of this new kernel looks like its the 
size of an unformatted disk, i.e. 1.47 Mb. The past kernel was about 350Kb, but 
had extraneous stuff.

I reran lilo and booted off the hard drive, and the new kernel works fine. 
Should the fact that this custom/slimmer kernel is larger in size than the 
stock Debian kernel (by about 4X) worry me?

Dave 


One last time: smail problem

1999-09-29 Thread David Kanter
I'll post this problem one last time: I must type runq at the console after 
running fetchmail in order for my e-mail reader to see my new mail. This never 
happened before, that is until I installed Netscape 4.61 the other day; before, 
I would run fetchmail and smail ran the queue automatically.

This is more an inconvenience than anything else---my system isn't broken. But 
what can I do to remedy this?

Some info: When installing Netscape, the configuration script said that smail 
may have to be restarted, and so it was. Also, when reconfiguring smail last 
night (smailconfig), a message that There is no crontab came up. My smail 
daemon is run via a inet.d.

Should I bag smail and use another MTA?

Thanks all,
Dave


smail problem

1999-09-28 Thread David Kanter
After installing Netscape 4.61, via dselect using Slink, a message came up 
during the configuration of the packages that smail might have to be restarted 
. So I let smail restart.

However, now when I run fetchmail I must runq in order for smail to pick up the 
mail fetchmail received and get it to register with Mutt. (Before, I would just 
run fetchmail and my mail would magically appear in Mutt when I started it.)

What has happened, and what can I do to fix this inconvenience?

-Dave


Smail/runq problem after installing Netscape

1999-09-27 Thread David Kanter
After installing Netscape 4.61, via dselect using Slink, a message came up 
during the configuration of the packages that smail might have to be restarted 
. So I let smail restart.

However, now when I run fetchmail I must runq in order for smail to pick up the 
mail fetchmail received and get it to register with Mutt. (Before, I would just 
run fetchmail and my mail would magically appear in Mutt when I started it.)

What has happened, and what can I do to fix this inconvenience?

-Dave


Need help configuring smail

1999-09-15 Thread David Kanter
 Last night I set up fetchmail and smail. At first smail bounced back all 
my remote messages (local messages were OK). But I made some changes and both 
are working, I think, but I have some questions so that I'll get less error 
messages.
 Perhaps someone could give me hints on how to answer the smailconfig 
prompts?
 Here's the info. I've got:
 I connect to the Internet via modem (TCP/IP). I send mail via SMTP and 
receive mail via POP3.
  *My SMTP/POP3 server is called hecky.acns.nwu.edu.
  *My login ID for the SMTP/POP3 server is pcr387.
  *My Linux username is david.
  *My Linux hostname is milwaukee.
 When getting mail via fetchmail, at one point I got this error from 
fetchmail:
 .fetchmail: SMTP doesn't like recipient address [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 In the message header of all remotely received mail, I get this error:
  X-Fetchmail-Warning: ; SMTP listener rejected local recipient 
addresses: pcr387
 Please, how should I answer the smailconfig prompts? I assume I want to 
choose option 1 when starting, the Internet only. But what are my smarthosts?
 There isn't much to configure with smail, which is why I chose it, but I 
need some help.
 
 Thanks,
 Dave




Problem mounting custom boot disk

1999-09-14 Thread David Kanter
Last night I compiled a new kernel and had it sent to a boot floppy instead of 
the hard drive (using the standard Debian tools for compiling a new kernel). 
Booting from the floppy is fine. However, I'd like to mount the floppy and get 
the kernel image off of it, move it to /boot, and then re-configure LILO to run 
it.

I've tried multiple variations of mount: -t vfat, -t msdos, and nothing at all 
(i.e., ext2). Each time I get a message that I have either chosen the wrong 
file system, or a couple other problems.

What should I do?

Thanks,
Dave


APM doesn't really work

1999-09-14 Thread David Kanter
I compiled a new kernel last night with APM support. When I boot up, I get the 
message about APM BIOS. However, it doesn't work all that well.

I run Window Maker, and after the selected dead time (as set in my BIOS), the 
CPU and monitor go to sleep (before going to sleep, the box has been running 
xscreensaver for about 25 minutes). But a few minutes after going to sleep, it 
spontaneously wakes up and starts xscreensaver.

My .xsessions is:
xscreesaver 
exec wmaker

Why does the CPU wake up by itself, or so it seems? Could something be going on 
in the background that wakes it up?

Thanks,
Dave


Re: compiling kernel for floppy boot

1999-09-14 Thread David Kanter
I'm having the opposite problem: I can't get my kernel onto the hard drive!

When compiled a kernel last night, using the packaging you mentioned, I was 
left with my own custom .deb file. When I ran dpkg on it, I was given the 
option to create a boot floppy. I'm not sure why you didn't get this message.

I already have a boot manager, so I don't want LILO to overwrite the mbr on 
hda, which I think it does by default.

Dave

 Steve George [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/14/99 2:06:56 PM 
Hi,

Does anyone know if there is a way you can compile a kernel into a debian 
package and have that kernel boot from the floppy?

I normally compile my kernels with make-kpkg but the package it makes installs 
onto the hardrive.  I want to do the same thing but place the 'new' kernel on a 
floppy rather than alter my stable setup on the harddisk.

Its a pity make-kpkg doesn't ask you where to install the new kernel to!

Thanks,

Steve


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Xemacs problem

1999-09-13 Thread David Kanter
When I try to start xemacs, I occasionally get this error message:

Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server
Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server
emacs: Cannot connect to X server :0.0.
Check the DISPLAY environment variable or use `-d'.
Also use the `xhost' program to verify that it is set to permit
connections from your machine.

Again, it doesn't happen all the time. However, nox-emacs works fine.

What is going on?

-Dave


Error when building custom kernel

1999-09-13 Thread David Kanter
I followed all the directions for making a custom kernel the debian way. When I 
get to the make-kpkg part, everything works fine until I get this error:

make[2]: as86: Command not found
make[2]: *** [bbootsect.o] Error 127
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36/arch/i386/boot'
make[1]: *** [bzImage] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.36'
make: *** [build] Error 2

What is going on? I tried making a new kernel the traditional way, with make 
clean, make dep, and make zImage, but I get the same error. At any rate, I get 
no new image file. Any help?

Thanks,
Dave


Printer stair stepping

1999-09-13 Thread David Kanter
My printer, an HP694C, does the stair-stepping thing. When I set up Mandrake, 
there was an automatic fix for this during set up. What can I do with Slink to 
fix this?

Also, I use lpr. Is this the preferred way for printing with Debian?

Thanks,
Dave


General kernel questions

1999-09-13 Thread David Kanter
I wanted to customize my kernel over the weekend, but after looking at what I 
assumed to be the current kernel configuration (i.e., the options selected when 
viewing make xconfig), I was left with some questions.

For instance, during boot-up I get the PPP messages. But in make xconfig, PPP 
ability is turned off---the radio button selected is n, not y or m. In 
fact, I think all modules are turned off in make xconfig.

How can this be? Why am I able to use PPP (via pon or wvdial) when the module 
isn't apparently there? However, during installation, I did select PPP as a 
module. I'm quite confused.

Thanks,
Dave


Wvdial for not-root access. How?

1999-09-13 Thread David Kanter
Wvdial only works with root access. Currently, I su root, and then type wvdial.

Is there a way so that I, when a non-root user, can start wvdial securely? I've 
read that suid will work, but is an insecure way of doing it. I want to do this 
the right way. Perhaps just su-ing root is the best?

Thanks,
Dave


Uninstalling gnome

1999-09-13 Thread David Kanter
Gnome, after installing it this weekend, left a bad taste in my mouth. I'd 
prefer to use a straight-up window manager.

What's the best way to uninstall gnome and its associated packages? I think all 
I downloaded was task-gnome-desktop, but I'm not sure. Should I let dselect 
remove this package? And will it remove all the dependencies?

Or, should I just change my .xsession to read exec wmaker instead of exec 
gnome-session and save myself the trouble? Will this throw my .xsession into a 
tizzy?

Thanks,
Dave


Re: Suggestion for a WM on a slow machine

1999-09-13 Thread David Kanter
I agree. I tried Enlightenment out over the weekend and was thoroughly 
unimpressed. It was very slow, and all those gibberish icons made no sense. No 
offense, but it seemed like it was designed by some high school kid who likes 
to play games all the time. Too much flash.

Window Maker isn't bad though.

But I also like icewm. It's very boring, but ver intuitive.

-Dave

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/13/99 10:26:35 AM 
I like asclassic. This is an old version of Afterstep---frozen at
around the version 1.2 level and maintained by Joseph Carter. This is
for people who (like me) find the newer window managers such as
Windowmaker, Enlightenment or more recent versions of Afterstep to be
too taken with eye-candy and too resource-hungry.



Re: X Configuration

1999-09-13 Thread David Kanter
Sounds like you could be trying to run X out of your monitor's scan range. Try 
running XF86Setup, as root, and reconfigure.

 Simon Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/13/99 11:29:47 AM 
Hi all

I have just downloaded X onto my Linux box and this time I am determined to
get it up and running. The configuration did not go by the book so I am now
wondering is there a FAQ or something that I can go to. I just get a blank
screen and when I try to change virtual console I get video back and a
message to the effect that the Xserver did not start.

Any help would be much appreciated.

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Window Maker, Window Maker (Debian)?

1999-09-13 Thread David Kanter
What's the difference between the two? These are listed in my Window Manager 
box under Window Maker. I also have Window Maker (Gnome), which is obviously 
for Gnome. But what about those other two?

Thanks,
Dave


Mozilla browser doesn't work

1999-09-13 Thread David Kanter
Am I missing something, or does the Mozilla browser that comes with Slink not 
work?

After starting ppp, I can start Mozilla, and it goes to the Mozilla home page, 
and that's about it. If I type a URL into the Web site box, then hit enter, 
nothing happens. If I go to the bookmarks, I can't add a bookmark. I can hit 
the urls on the Mozilla home page, and go to those, but that's it.

Am I missing something? Why would software that doesn't work be included in the 
package?

-Dave


E-mail client for POP3?

1999-09-13 Thread David Kanter
I use POP3 with my dial up connection, and wonder what people generally use as 
a mail client for this situation. Do people just default to Netscape? I was 
looking at Mutt, which looks a little confusing, but seems to be somewhat 
popular.

Dave


I upgraded X...I think?

1999-09-10 Thread David Kanter
I tried to update X on my Slink, but am not sure if I did everything correctly.

Because I don't have an internet connection available at my Linux box, I 
downloaded most of the files from http://www.debian.org/~branden/ at another 
machine and used dpkg to upgrade everything I could, such as the vga and svga 
servers, xfree86setup, and some other things. Some packages, like xbase, 
couldn't be installed because I did not download lib6gdev. (I didn't think I 
needed it when I downloaded all the files at the Web site, just the basic ones 
to get some decent resolutions.)

The long and short of my question: My X server works wonderfully now, I'm no 
longer stuck in vga mode, but I'm wondering if I need to update those other 
packages that couldn't be updated due to dependency problems. Should I just 
quit now, and not worry about the other stuff? Is it possible that an X upgrade 
doesn't entail upgrading all the X packages at the Branden Web site?

Thanks,
Dave


Avoiding gpm before installing GNOME

1999-09-10 Thread David Kanter
I'm going to try out GNOME this weekend, but have read about many problems 
regarding it's gpm. How can I avoid gpm from being installed during the 
installation? Will I be asked about this after installing the package? And is 
it possible to use my regular xdm with xbanner with GNOME? I assume it is.

Dave


Using apt with downloaded files

1999-09-10 Thread David Kanter
I'd like to download a directory-worth of files using a T1 line and a Zip disk, 
then bring that disk to my Linux box at home. How should I set up apt to read 
the mounted Zip disk (/dev/hdd4)? I'm more concerned with setting up the apt 
configuration file.

Thanks,
Dave


Upgrading XFree86

1999-09-09 Thread David Kanter
I need some advice on how to upgrade the XFree86 files that came with Slink. My 
problem is that I have a card (STB nVIDIA TNT, 16 Mb of RAM) not listed in the 
stable version, but listed in the unstable version of X. Newer versions of X 
that came with Mandrake (in rpm format) work fine; but the older X files that 
came with Slink don't.

I need to use the svga server. Currently, if I use the svga server I get 
terrible resolution, around 320 X something, but if I use the vga server I can 
at least get vga resolution. So, I need to upgrade X.

But that's where I'm confused. Which files must I upgrade? The Debian 
FAQ-O-MATIC says to upgrade: xbase, xlib6, xfntbase and the xservers that I'll 
use. However, these files each have different dependencies that make me wonder 
whether the above is a complete list. Is it best to download all the X packages 
at http://www.debian.org/~branden/ and then run dselect?

Thanks for any help. I'm almost there with a fully functional Debian.

-Dave


Re: Upgrading XFree86

1999-09-09 Thread David Kanter
I'm assuming that I'll need to go on-line at some point during this update. 
Since I cannot do that just yet where my Linux box is, what could I download at 
another Internet-ready machine (which has a T1 line) to get deselect to work 
right?

Also, how do dselect and apt integrate with one another, if they do at all? I'm 
a bit confused with all the packaging tools: dpkg, dselect and apt.

Thanks again.

-Dave

 Bob Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/9/99 9:11:23 AM 
Put the following in /etc/apt/sources.list (in addition to the normal
entries):

deb http://ftp.netgod.net/ x/

Run dselect/update, select the Xserver you need and let apt sort out the
rest.

Bob



Re: X crashes on start-up

1999-09-08 Thread David Kanter
I'll try the upgrade. I had heard there was one on an ftp site (something like 
ftp.mokole.com), but when I logged on there was a message that nothing would be 
made available for download.

I tried the xf86config again last night, and set the mouse port to /dev/psaux. 
That did the trick. But the video resolution is quite terrible and cannot be 
switched with control+alt++/-. There's nothing in the XF86Config file to 
indicate why, but I'll try the new XFree and see what happens.

Thanks.

 Taupter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/7/99 4:41:04 PM 
 I have Debian 2.1. After installation the console works fine but X does not. 
 When I startx, I will get a teal screen at a very low resolution, with the 
 mouse pointing to the left. Then everything freezes. If I hit a key, I get a 
 beep. I must go to a virtual terminal to shutdown.
 All other distributions thus far (Mandrake 6.0 and Slackware 4.0) have worked 
 flawlessly. Incidentally, so has Red Hat 5.2, which was based on the 2.0.35 
 kernel.

I think that it is brecause your video board is not supported at all by
XFree86 3.3.2. You shoud update your XFree86 packages to at least 3.3.3
(the recent version is 3.3.5). There are Debian packages of the 3.3.4 at
http://www.debian.org/~branden/ 

Could be better if you tell us your videoboard's model, memory, and some
other information about your hardware.


Taupter


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X crashes on start-up

1999-09-07 Thread David Kanter
I have Debian 2.1. After installation the console works fine but X does not. 
When I startx, I will get a teal screen at a very low resolution, with the 
mouse pointing to the left. Then everything freezes. If I hit a key, I get a 
beep. I must go to a virtual terminal to shutdown.

I have run xf86config numerous times, each to no avail. During installation, I 
had gpm autodetect my mouse, a ps2.

All other distributions thus far (Mandrake 6.0 and Slackware 4.0) have worked 
flawlessly. Incidentally, so has Red Hat 5.2, which was based on the 2.0.35 
kernel.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Dave