Re: Running fsck automatically on boot
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 12:37:08PM -0800, Sergio Padrino wrote: Hi! I have Debian Unstable and sometimes there are some (typical) errors in my partitions: /dev/sda7: Superblock last mount time is in the future /dev/sda7: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY and I was wondering if there is a way to let fsck to run automatically in these cases. I have no problem with this (although it's kind of annoying :P) but my sister has no computer knowledge so it's hard for her to check her partitions :S Thank you in advance! To force a fsck on boot you can use either the -F flag of shutdown(8), or you can `touch /forcefsck' and reboot normally. Either way, every filesystem will be forced to fsck on reboot. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: weird networking issue on lenny!
On 0, Zachary Uram net...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings! I just did fresh install of lenny, I have a DSL modem and run a static IP setup so I manually set up my route (DHCP was enabled by default) by killing the dhclient process and then setting up /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces and doing /etc/init.d/networking restart and it went fine, but suddenly after 30 minutes I suddenly lost internet connectivity and here is what I saw then: zu22 3623 0.0 0.3 193952 13388 ?S12:14 0:01 nm-applet --sm-disable Mixing /etc/init.d/networking and nm-applet generally causes a lot of problems. Pick one and stick with it. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: deadkeys with openoffice
On 0, Tony Baldwin photodha...@gmail.com wrote: green wrote: Please reply to the list! doh...I hate this list sometimes. Why can't it function normally, like every other list on the gods' green earth? /tony It does. You just need a proper MUA. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: dependency problem
On 0, graham gra...@theseamans.net wrote: [...] libhdf4-alt-dev: Depends: libhdf4-0-alt (= 4.2r4-6) but 4.2r4-5 is to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution). [...] The first thing to do would be to try a dist-upgrade. If that still fails, see if you can apt-pin the needed package from a newer release; by the way, what release are you running currently? -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: NFS or SSHFS?
On 0, Israel Garcia igalva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list, Do you know pros and cons of using SSHFS instead NFS to share a lot of debian folders? I know NFS is proven and has good performance with a lot of shares and intensive use. BUT I don't know if SSHFS have been proven to work under this circumstances. Any experience using SSHFS? SSHFS is generally meant to be used as a single-user filesystem; if multiple people are going to be accessing the mount, you may want to go with NFS. Also keep in mind the overhead from the encryption will make any SSH transfers noticeably slower than it's NFS counterpart. What I 'use' SSHFS for is to mount my $HOME at work to local $HOME/work so that I can edit my scripts using my local tools, as opposed to having to do everything over SSH. SSHFS isn't meant to be an encrypted answer to NFS, it's meant to do little things like that. At least that's my opinion; I guess you could technically use it any way you want. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: need help with awk
On 0, Guillaume CHARDIN guillaume.char...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, In a backup process of some xen virtual machine, i need to extract in the config file some informations (in fact the disk line) . The line look like this : disk = [ file:/path/to/file,sda1,w ] my goal is to isolate le `file` part to use it later. I'm a beginner with sed/grep and [...] I know this isn't the answer you were looking for, but here is an easy way to isolate it in Perl; $string = disk = [ file:/path/to/file,sda1,w ]; $string =~ s/^.+://; $string =~ s/ ]$//; ($path,$name,$perms) = split(,, $string); -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: xorg still locking up for me on testing
On 0, Frank debianl...@videotron.ca wrote: I had high hopes this morning when xorg-xserver-video-intel got updated but no such luck. Since then my machine has locked up tight (alt-sysreq tight) about 5 times. [...] What kernel are you running? I remember reading that on Intel video cards there are a lot of problems with kernels under 2.6.30. So, I advise you upgrade (or try compiling) 2.6.31 -- it fixed a lot of my problems with the new Xorg. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: dhclient DHCPREQUEST loop
On 0, Jerome BENOIT jgmben...@mailsnare.net wrote: Hello List, on my Lenny box, the message dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to n.n.n.n port 67 is printed continuously on the syslog file. [...] Thanks in advance, Jerome I get this problem on some networks; it seems to me that some routers just don't play nicely with dhclient. I've tried multiple times to find the source, but I've yet to have any luck. Sorry I couldn't be of more help. If I were you I'd contact your system administrator. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can't boot custom compiled 2.6.30 amd64 kernel
On 0, Andrew Perrin cli...@perrin.socsci.unc.edu wrote: kernel panic: no init found. Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). Have you tried actually building an initrd? I always get a problem mounting root until I build my initrd. (man mkinitramfs, or just `mkinitramfs -o initrd.2.6.30-amd64 2.6.30-amd64`, assuming that is the 'name' of your kernel) -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to generate random negative numbers
On 0, Soren Orel soren.o...@gmail.com wrote: I know I could generate numbers like: 0; 1; 2 with: $[ ( $RANDOM % 3 ) + 0 ] But how could I generate numbers like: 0; 1; 2; -1; -2; etc? So negative+positive numbers too + zero thank you echo $[ ($RANDOM % 5 ) -2 ] That would generate -2 through 2. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Building Arora deb
On 0, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Sven Joachimsvenj...@gmx.de wrote: On 2009-07-30 23:41 +0200, Patrick Wiseman wrote: I just downloaded the source for Arora (a webkit-based browser) because the version available to me through aptitude doesn't like my ELF64 system. The source comes with a 'builddeb.sh' script, but it fails with './builddeb.sh: line 4: debuild: command not found'. Obviously I'm missing something essential (but not build-essential, which I have). Help? The debuild command is part of the devscripts package; apt-file might help you to find that out yourself in the future. Thanks. I generally use aptitude (which has no obvious way to return that kind of information) and tend to forget about the apt-* options. Patrick Yes it does. [pob...@greedo ~]$ aptitude search ~ddebuild p devscripts - scripts to make the life of a Debian Packager easier p devscripts-el - Emacs wrappers for the commands in devscripts p pbuilder- personal package builder for Debian packages -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Musings on debian-user list
On 0, Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Tim Beauregardtim.beaureg...@sky.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I recently re-subscribed having been off for about four years. The changes I have noticed are: 1. Much less traffic. I previously got 250+ posts per day. Now 50-100. Could this be due to the development of ubuntu? After read this thread, only to be informative, from ubuntu-users bird, debian-user has more posts until now (2004-10 - 2009-07): DEB: 192759 UBU: 189287 [1] http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/about Yeah, but you have to keep in mind that Ubuntu's mailing list isn't the community's main way of keeping in touch. They use their forums[2] more than anything. [2] http://ubuntuforums.org/ -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Musings on debian-user list
On 0, Mark mamar...@gmail.com wrote: If it's any consolation, I'm a newbie and I actually chose Debian as my first real Linux install even though I heard it was tougher for newbies to learn.� To me it represented one of the purest distros of Linux and I don't mind putting in the time/research.� A few days ago I installed Ubuntu on the girlfriend's laptop and my (admittedly very limited) Debian knowledge came in handy.� I even chose Clearlooks under Preferences-Appearance for her laptop, so that she gets accustomed to a standard Debian Gnome desktop environment as it is my plan to eventually get her over to Debian.� Muahahaha (evil laugh). Mark It's not really tougher, it just takes more time to make work. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing (the end user has a lot more say in how his system works). But really, what does Clearlooks have to do with Debian's user friendliness? I don't even think most Debian users use GNOME -- I know I don't. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [8]debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [9]listmas...@lists.debian.org References Visible links 1. mailto:javibarr...@gmail.com 2. mailto:pob...@fuzzydev.org 3. mailto:javibarr...@gmail.com 4. mailto:tim.beaureg...@sky.com 5. http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/about 6. http://ubuntuforums.org/ 7. http://linuxquestion.org/ 8. mailto:debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org 9. mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Musings on debian-user list
On 0, Mark mamar...@gmail.com wrote: Good point, maybe I'm in the minority of Debian users as I'm not a programmer. Anywho, I'm just trying to make the Linux desktop environment as comfortable for my friends as possible, and they've already used my Clearlooks desktop so I try and keep their setup the same. When I feel adventurous one weekend I'll try a Debian install without the desktop environment. I think this email list is filled with people very comfortable using no desktop environment, but for those of us raised on Windoze it takes some time to transition over. :) Mark Mark, a GUI-less system is useless (unless it's some sort of server). What I was trying to say earlier is that it's not the desktop environment that makes Debian great, but everything that makes it such an intricate and well working system, including but not limited to: dpkg, apt, aptitude, alternatives, the FHS, simplicity of backports/pinning, availability of packages, stability of said packages, and the helpfulness of the community. There are tons of other technical reasons why I prefer Debian, but I honestly can't think of them right now. They've become so native to me. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is a Universal Desktop Experience possible?
On 0, SteveM newsdeb...@jetcity.org wrote: Fellow Debians, I have seven systems scattered around the house. I thought a NFS and a shared /home would solve my file sharing problems but it doesn't help with desktop app configs. What I'd like is a Universal Desktop Experience, i.e. same kicker applets, same konsole profiles, same amarok playlists, same xpad postits, etc, whereever I login. I'm a KDE type, but afaict the issue affects all DE's. My goal doesn't seem unreasonable and I expect others share it. If that group includes you, what's your solution? Is there a non-web-based UDE? thanks, steve Couldn't you make /home NFS, but not include ~/.kde/? I mean, you can make the wrapper script for mounting /home auto create ~/.kde/ (using maybe ftp or wget to fetch it from the same computer you're hosting /home on). The only downfall to this method is that if you change something setup-wise it won't be saved, but I guess that's what you'd expect when you're running a network like this. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Reinstall packages
On 0, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote: On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 12:27:51PM +0100, Thomas Kenyon wrote: I am in the process of recovering from having a very damaged filesystem. Is there a method using either dpkg or apt/aptitude to get packages to refresh their files? The packages installed are up to date so I can't upgrade many of them. Certainly possible. In fact, it's possible to use any of the tools you mentioned seperately: dpkg --install package_whatever.deb apt-get install --reinstall package aptitude reinstall package Does reinstall do a purge/install or a remove/install? If his filesystem is corrupted I'd imagine that purging the packages before reinstalling is pretty important. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How to improve performance on laptop?
On 0, Michael Yang michael@gmail.com wrote: Hi, [...] fine, although some problems happened and got fixed. (Now is Lenny, 2.6.24, Xfce4). The system has been very stable, but just with performance issues now. The time to start the system is OK (usually about 22secs in bootchart). The issue is with GUI applications. When I entered xfce4, it takes about 14secs for everything is ready, and when I open the Firefox (or Mozilla product), it always takes about 15secs to 20secs to be ready. The system may be getting slower because I have been configuring and installing new staff on it. I just wonder if there is any way to tune on it, or maybe somewhere many caches need to be cleaned up? [...] Thanks, Michael. Installing prelink and preload should help. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: updated Testing and Ekiga segfaults
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:32:25AM -0400, H.S. wrote: Hello, I did an upgdate of my Debian Testing machine earlier today and now when I start Ekiga, it segfaults. The debugging info from Ekiga is: [... $ ekiga -d4 ...] This is on Ekiga version 2.0.12-1+nmu1+b1. Anybody have any idea what happened today to cause this problem and how to fix it? Ekiga was working fine till yesterday morning at least. Thanks. Same problem here -- just thought I'd let you know you're not alone. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Laptop woes - Black background is now pure red.
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 03:21:18PM -0400, Chris Jones wrote: This happened over the last couple of days. on a laptop that spends all its time on a desk .. didn't drop it, spill fluids or anything. [...] To clarify, I have uploaded a few screenshots at: www.geocities.com/fcky1000/fckw/ Thanks, CJ Since the screenshots look normal to us, I'm assuming it's probably the screen itself. Is the machine still on warranty? Perhaps you should contact their tech support and try to have them look at it (I wish I could offer more help, but I don't touch anything on the hardware level, so I apologize for my useless response) -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] netbook recommendation
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 07:42:36AM +0200, Leonardo Canducci wrote: 2009/5/6 Michael Pobega pob...@fuzzydev.org: On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 08:39:06PM +0200, Leonardo Canducci wrote: 1. cheap, light and small, otherwise no use for a netbook :) Eee PC 901 :D 8.9 screen, 2.1 lbs weight 2. linux friendly I'm running Debian Squeeze on mine right now 3. usable (decent keyboard, 9 screen minimum) Truthfully, the keyboard does take a bit of time to adjust to, but after two weeks of practice I've been touch typing on this thing without trouble. 4. with a decent battery life (3h is not enough) Eh. This thing gets 2:45 or so with wifi/bluetooth/camera/lan all on. If I turn everything off (and dim the brightness) I can squeeze out about 4.5 hours with it. Not amazing, but more than I need for taking notes in class (my primary use) This with a 3 cell battery pack I guess. I thought it had a 6 cell battery pack. What? It comes with a 6-cell battery. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wine and itunes
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 08:56:15AM -0400, Christopher Judd wrote: Hi, My son is fed up with Windows and wants to purge it from his system, and run ubuntu or debian. The only thing holding him back at this time is itunes. Like most teenagers, he uses it regularly and has a rather large itunes library. Does anyone have experience running a recent version of itunes (preferably 8.something) in wine on a debian box? I've done some looking online, but haven't found a definite answer. I tried it with the package in experimental on my box at work (which is amd64), but was not successful. I have a 32 bit system at home that I can try it on. -Chris There is a program called aTunes, which looks and feels like iTunes but is native to Linux. I'm sure your son would find it easy to use. http://www.atunes.org/ There is a deb package on the homepage (not in Debian's repositories) -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT] netbook recommendation
On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 08:39:06PM +0200, Leonardo Canducci wrote: 1. cheap, light and small, otherwise no use for a netbook :) Eee PC 901 :D 8.9 screen, 2.1 lbs weight 2. linux friendly I'm running Debian Squeeze on mine right now 3. usable (decent keyboard, 9 screen minimum) Truthfully, the keyboard does take a bit of time to adjust to, but after two weeks of practice I've been touch typing on this thing without trouble. 4. with a decent battery life (3h is not enough) Eh. This thing gets 2:45 or so with wifi/bluetooth/camera/lan all on. If I turn everything off (and dim the brightness) I can squeeze out about 4.5 hours with it. Not amazing, but more than I need for taking notes in class (my primary use) So, in the end I'd recommend the EeePC 901. You can grab one for $280 or so, they're fairly good, run the netbook standard hardware (1.58GHz Atom n270, Intel 945GM graphics, the works), and the wireless is draft N so it's got a bit more range than G (from what I can tell). -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Backing Up CMOS Settings Under Linux
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 03:19:50PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote: I first thought it was my imagination, but I have had two Dell Dimension computers change their boot drive order. I don't know when it happens because they change to boot the hard drive just after trying the floppy such that the CDROM is last. This makes it hard to boot from any CDROM until the CMOS gets changed back. As a computer user who is blind, this is annoying because one must look at the screen to set things back as there is no network interface or serial port or much of anything else up when in BIOS setup mode. Perhaps you should try editing your /etc/fstab and mounting the devices by their UUIDs, rather than their /dev/ names. I'd go into more detail, but I have to head out; a quick Google search for mounting by UUID should suffice. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: kernel-package??
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 09:24:43AM -0500, Randy Patterson wrote: I'm looking to start using my own custom kernels for various reasons. At this point I'm just researching the various options or ways in going about this and in the process installed kernel-package. I learned the hard way a couple years ago when I first started using Linux that before diving into documentation I first need to try to determine it's age. So after installing kernel-package the first thing I did was go to the bottom of the man page and looked at the date, May 25, 1999! Now I realize that is not necessarily the date of the last update but this doesn't give me a good feeling about diving into it's details that could be 10 years old. So is it better to just use an upstream source from kernel.org and build that or will that only create more work trying to get that running with a current Debian distro? I'm certainly not looking for a detailed howto on this list, but looking for advise on the road to take to get there. Or at least the road with more pros than cons. Thanks, Randy Just fyi, kernel-package isn't a kernel itself; it's the tools used to build a vanilla kernel (like the ones from kernel.org) into a deb file. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Getting the ATL2 kernel module to work with Xen
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 08:27:04AM +0200, Jeroen Steenbeeke wrote: Yup, that did it! Booted with the regular 2.6.26-2-amd64 kernel, did m-a a-i -l 2.6.26-2-xen-amd64 atl2-source, and then rebooted with the amd64 kernel - and the network worked! Thanks a lot! - Jeroen No problem, glad it worked. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Getting the ATL2 kernel module to work with Xen
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:50:05PM +0200, Jeroen Steenbeeke wrote: Hey everyone, I am having some problems with my server setup, and I'm starting to go crazy trying to figure this out. I want to use my computer to host a couple of Xen guests, but no matter what I do, I keep running into problems. I've tried 4 different versions of a certain popular Debian based distro before giving Lenny a try, and to my relief, it gave me none of the hardware driver problems I had experience earlier while still having proper packages for installing a Xen system. So, having installed a Xen kernel (2.6.26-2-xen-amd64), and my mood vastly improved, I rebooted my PC so I could start adding some virtual machines - only to find out the network had stopped working. After some quick research I found out that the ATL2 module does not exist in the module directories for the Xen kernel, while it does exist in the regular 2.6.26-2-amd64 modules. Without this driver, I have no network, and without this kernel, I have no VMs - not an ideal situation. Can anybody give me some pointers as to how to fix this and get this module to work for the Xen kernel as well? Cheers, Jeroen Have you tried installing the module using module-assistant? I'm sure it's just a simple `m-a a-i atl2-source` away -- but then again, you have no internet so I'm not sure exactly how it will work ... Do you have all the programs needed to build source on there? -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 01:12:35PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: Check out the FreeBSD handbook at: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ It is also available as a pdf which is 1000 pages! It doesn't cover everything, but it does cover a lot. They also have other books and articles at http://www.freebsd.org/docs/books.html. That sounds more like a problem than a solution. I would not try an OS that had a 1000 page manual. I want simple, not comprehensive. Well, the thing about FBSD is that it's users are pretty much all hobbyists, so the length of a manual is a good thing. If Debian had documentation of equal or greater length I can only see that as a strength, not a weakness. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 07:43:55AM -0400, machiner wrote: I thought I asked you a question. There's no reason to be rude. All we're saying is that instead of running your own site, why not contribute to a pre-existing site? I'm personally hoping that one day I can say that Debian's Wiki trumps Gentoo or FreeBSD's documentation. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood
On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 05:45:43PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Tue,21.Apr.09, 08:58:13, machiner wrote: Recently I set up a blog for a couple site members and one older fellow in particular is going gang-busters! I would like to expand the site to include any of you that can muster up an hour a week or so to write tutorials or articles germain to new or relatively new Linux (Debian) users. I'd rather not spread resources all over the net. If I'd have time to write new stuff I'd put it on wiki.debian.org (or help maintain existing content). I completely agree - I think one of the main problems with GNU/Linux documentation (and Debian in particular) is that it's so spread among different places; [0] the Debian Wiki (http://wiki.debian.org) [1] Debian Documentation (http://debian.org/doc/) [2] Debian Help (http://www.debianhelp.org/) [3] Debian Forums (recently deceased, http://forums.debian.net) [4] Debian Administration (http://www.debian-administration.org/) Do we really need another source of information? -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is it secure to use testing/backport repos for production server?
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 11:39:25AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: In 20090416152722.ga23...@greedo, Michael Pobega wrote: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 09:50:46PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Is it secure to use testing/backport repos for production server? Realistically, the most 'secure' choice would be to use stable with backports, No, it would be stable plus security. No, in the choices he gave it'd be stable with backports; what I meant to say was out of the two you said, but I didn't convey that clearly enough I suppose. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Is it secure to use testing/backport repos for production server?
On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 09:50:46PM +0700, Sthu Deus wrote: Good day. Is it secure to use testing/backport repos for production server? Thank You for Your time. It's really your choice. Backports is probably a lot safer than testing, but personally I haven't had a real problem in my two years of running Debian testing. It really all depends how well you know Debian, and how mission-critical the server is; or if it's a single-user or multi-user system -- There are a lot of factors to take into account. Realistically, the most 'secure' choice would be to use stable with backports, but most things are still outdated. And for a production environment you need up-to-date software; in cases like these I'd recommend using testing. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?
On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:28:26AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 09:59:52AM +0100, Nuno Magalhães wrote: MTAs, afaik, are useful for multiuser systems and/or systems that actually handle mail. (Most (i should say 'most' otherwise some nitpick will say But i do!)) single-user desktops do not. And if the MTA is used by internal programs, well, maybe those programs should not rely on a MailTA? Syslog maybe? Another option? Here's something you should test: how simple is it for you to use reportbug to report bugs? I actually have a question about this; I've always used reportbug with the -M flag, which relays the mail through Mutt. What is the *proper* way to set up exim4 so that reportbug will work without any errors? (Currently I'm not using exim4 for anything but local mail relaying, as I don't like putting my personal mail's user/pass in /etc) -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how can i turn /dev/null into an MTA?
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:26:17AM +0200, Dirk wrote: (see subject) i don't want an MTA running on a system... but many programs require it as dependency to spam me with their stuff (which should belong into just a log file (IMO))... Dirk Install nullmailer, I'm pretty sure that's what you're looking for. -- http://fuzzydev.org/~pobega http://identi.ca/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can you recommend a game in etch?
On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 09:38:55AM +0800, Long Wind wrote: I like simple action games Below are the kind of games I like: lbreakout2 tetris wolf3d for DOS from 3drealms raptor for DOS from 3drealms top-down shooters: rrotage torus-trooper gunroar (my favorite) tumiki-fighters first person shooters: prboom (doom engine) urbanterror (not a Debian package, http://urbanterror.net/) nexuiz (Quake-like deathmatch game) tremulous puzzle: worldofgoo (not free, $20 purchase; demo is available online though) frozen-bubble -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: media player with NFS cacheing?
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 07:09:27PM -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: Is there a media player out there that is NFS-aware, and can be configured to cache an entire media file locally before playing? She's running KDE on her desktop but a gnome app would do as well so long as it's easy enough for a three and a half year old to play/pause/fullscreen/quit etc (she's using totem right now). Thanks to the help of someone on #debian a while ago, I now use `mplayer -cache 8192 /path/to/file.avi` to play movies over an NFS stream. If the video quality/filesize is large you may have to increase the size of the cache (it uses kB by default, append an M for MB.) -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how make my laptop beep when low battery?
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 04:52:52AM -0700, paragasu wrote: i am using openbox , btw, how to do it in KDE? maybe the same can be done on openbox? I know a guy who did it using KPowerSave, I think he set up the rules and then let it run as a daemon. I'm not 100% sure though, so I'll have to ask him when I get back to campus. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Fedora guy byebyes Debian
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 03:52:54PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: Probably because they want to let us know what in their opinion is wrong. They probably want to hear Oh, thanks for that bug report, I just fixed that for you, now you can return! We should take these messages and put the individual pieces like ATI and WiFi don't seem to work on Lenny AMD64 on Dell or Aspireone on the TODO list and ask the guy for more details, so someone can file a complete bug report. So, have those items been added to this hyppothetical TODO list? Where is this list on the intercords? To be honest, ATI and wifi do work; I bet he didn't spend much time really trying to configure them. But the 'TODO' list is the BTS. I agree with you that sending an e-mail like this is not constructive, not at all as constructive as a complete bug report, but we could also try to do something with these e-mails as far as we can. Some people just don't know how to file a bug report. And to be honest, on Debian with no WWW bug reporting interface I just don't file them. I file against Ubuntu, KDE, and, well, Fedora. Why do you need some annoying WWW bug reporting interface? All you need to do is type 'reportbug package' to file a bug report. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: need help on shell programming
On Sun, Mar 08, 2009 at 08:50:25PM +0100, Michael Wagner wrote: * Michael Pobega pob...@gmail.com 08.03.2009 #! /bin/sh if [ $(ps aux | grep script.sh | grep -v grep) ]; then your script here Hello Michael, what about pgrep? -+ #! /bin/bash | | if [ $(pgrep -x script.sh) ]; then script here; fi | -+ Just my 2¢ Michael I've never heard of pgrep before; thanks for the tip -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can one install lenny from live cd's ?
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:03:46PM +0100, baldyeti wrote: I must have been looking in the wrong places, but I can't figure out whether this is possible and supported. Beta notes said the release version would include the installer but it certainly isn't prominently featured and easy to activate in the KDE flavour I downloaded... I'm pretty sure you can Debootstrap an installation, and do everything by hand. Just read through the debootstrap(8) man page. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: need help on shell programming
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 04:54:28PM -0500, Long Wind wrote: I want a script. The script run a command, wait one minute, then run the command again, wait one minute again ... again and again ... Thanks! Just to bring this back up, you can use a mix of shell programming and Cronjobs. For example, run your job like so; */1 * * * * script.sh and have the script do some process checking: #! /bin/sh if [ $(ps aux | grep script.sh | grep -v grep) ]; then your script here That will make sure it runs every minute, without overlapping itself. When I write code that needs to be run a preset amount of time, I generally try to find a way to use Cron -- why recreate what is already available? -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Instaling Debian in netbooks
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:29:26PM -0200, Luis M. A. Ruiz wrote: Hi. I'm wondering about instaling Debian GNU/Linux in a LG X110 netbook (no CD drive). What is the best way to perform this? The netbook specs are: Intel Atom N270 @ 1.6 Ghz 1 Gb RAM 120 Gb HDD 1 SD card RW 3 USB ports 802.11 b/g wi-fi adapter Realtec RTL8102E NIC Thanks in advance and sorry about my english skills. Luis The Debian wiki[0] contains information about installing Debian on an EeePC, which may be very similar to installing it on your netbook. You may also want to look at unetbootn, which creates a USB bootable image from a CD-ROM ISO. unetbootn is available for Windows, GNU/Linux, and (if memory serves) BSD and Mac OS. [0]http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: problem with IPTABLEs
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 07:28:35PM -0500, Long Wind wrote: I want to specify a domain name in rules but the domain name often changes IP Is there anything I can do about it? Cronjob, every four hours or so gets the current IP of the domain. Then, in iptables, do something like iptables -arg rule -ip $(cat /file/you/stored/ip/in) Note: this is an ugly workaround, so if you need to do this for more than one domain you may want to find another method. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Fedora guy byebyes Debian
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 09:22:08AM -0400, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: Well, a fun time (one week), sweating it up to make my ATI and Wifi work in Lenny AMD64 but nothing. With old fedora wifi works from the live cd and ATI with the update. No need even to try it with my dell or my Aspireone. So byebye Debian. I found on lenny many of the bugs and troubles found in Fedora 8 and 9, which all today are old history. Why losing time? Cant' understand. Lenny is a nice white-haired rookie (altough older than fedora), apt is nice, directory structures and config files are better than fedora, but I hardly find Debian a stable distro. Pulling her to further limits causes a quick breakage. I find hard fedora reporting a segfault, like lenny gave yestarday on networks-admin gui. Why the battery indicator suddenly dissapeared, being the panel thingy active? Why it takes so long to boot -sometimes-? Farewell, debian. Thanks everybody. Not to bring up an old thread (I'm bored here on the train, reading through my archives of d-u), but why do people feel the need to tell everyone when they are leaving? I mean, if it was someone who's names I recognize from seeing often (Joey Hess and Celejar come to mind) that's understandable, but some random guy? I don't understand it. That said, goodbye, and good luck in your future endeavors. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Lenny upgrade: Is there a way to reconfigure video card in lenny?
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 02:56:20PM -0800, S D wrote: I'm trying to resolve Desktop is not using full screen problem that appeared after upgrade from etch to lenny. More info about the issue can be found at: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515840 http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/b651d56d24d02d35# Since there's no solution so far, I'd like to try to COMPLETELY reconfigure my video card settings. Is there a way to do it in lenny? I tried dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg but the reconfig process asked some questions about the keyboard it didn't ask anything at all about the videocard. Thanks Have you tried manually reconfiguring your xorg.conf? You may need a Mode line, for example from mine (for my EeePC): Section DRI Mode0666 Endsection Figure out the exact resolution you need, and make a modeline for it (there is a formula available to use pixWidth/pixHeight/DPI to generate a modeline), and put it in your xorg.conf as specified above. You may have to create the DRI section. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Why did you chose Debian over CentOS?
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 02:06:29PM -0500, Joe McDonagh wrote: Hey Steve, I love that just by typing up here above e-mails I can make smug users like you go postal. I feel powerful. Actually, bottom posting is common in e-mail etiquette. A: Because it's easier to read Q: Why should I bottom post? http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html (I know this link refers to Usenet groups, but the same etiquette applies to mailing lists) That aside, I don't think top posting is a good representation of someone as stupid. Just uninformed. 1. Preseed vs. kickstart If you're only running at home or only a few machines at work, you're not going to run into this. Once you're done a RH install a .ks file is dropped under /root. You can now use this file to kickstart identical machines in PXE in a couple of minutes. There is no such automatic generation in Debian. [...] I am not sure if Debian has anything like Kickstart, but to be fair I can't think of one time I would have needed it. Debootstrap/dd works fine whenever I needed to quickly setup a system. Kickstart would just be a superfluous app I'd never use. 2. The disarray of configuration files vs centralized system config dir In RH you have /etc/sysconfig. Almost every single system configuration file is under here. In Debian, anything goes. /etc/default... But traditionally, yeah, /etc/ is where config files go. ooohhh really? Keen observation Steve! Thanks for that crumb kind sir. Got any other gems? Actually, I find Debian to be pretty concise in where it stores configuration files; I've never had trouble finding one. If it's not in /etc it's in /etc/default -- Debian actually sticks religiously to the FHS, which makes things fairly easy to locate. You can have a sane conversation about this vs that without talking to someone like they are mildly retarded. That'll be hard to have if you're feeding the fire too. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[OT] Re: top-posting and iTouch
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 06:14:35PM -0700, Glenn English wrote: And it's next to impossible not to with the lame email client on this iTouch... It even top posts your signature? Wow, that's pretty bad. No one's bothered to port any good e-mail clients to the touch yet? -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Will this program run under wine? or Crossover Office?
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 10:04:47AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: The program in question is Who do you think You Are? Family Tree Maker. Has anyone got this going successfully? If so, how? And on what hardware? I have successfully installed it on Lenny, but it seems not actually to run. This is for someone else, so Use a different program is not an option. All tips welcomed. (Even plug it in, turn it on - or RTFM ;-) But if the latter, could you also say which manual - I am not getting very far along that route.) TIA Lisi http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=494 Apparently it works, but not too well. Also, check the AppDB before asking about Wine compatibility. And keep in mind that this is also debian-user, whereas Wine has it's own mailing list (which would be better suited for a question like this, and may even end with a patch of some sort). Good luck to you/your friend getting this program to work. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: running gedit as su brings error
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 01:23:15PM +0700, Dave Patterson wrote: Hello * Recently I've been getting an error I've not seen before in Gnome: when I run Gedit from a terminal as su, I get the following: Failed to contact configuration server; some possible causes are that you need to enable TCP/IP networking for ORBit, or you have stale NFS locks due to a system crash. See http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/ for information. (Details - 1: Failed to get connection to session: Did not receive a reply.) gnome.org explanations relate to redhat, with no guidance for Debian based systems. I get the same thing when calling gnome's system log monitor, but not when I call Synaptic. Any clues out there? Try running it with sux or gksu rather than just plain su; that should pass X privileges to any account you switch to -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: netbook for debian
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 10:17:00AM +0100, Peter Robinson wrote: Hi all, I am thinking of buying a netbook and would like to ask for opinions about good options for use with debian (preferably, alternatively Ubuntu). At the moment, I have been looking at Samsung NC10-anyNet KA06DE 10,2 Zoll WSVGA Netbook and Asus Eee PC 1000H 10 Zoll WSVGA Netbook but I would like to spend as little money as possible to get a reliable small laptop for presentations and for writing/surfing while on the road. thanks cheers Peter I own an Asus EeePC 901 running Debian, and I'm loving every moment of it. As long as you set it up properly (covered by http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC ) it will fly like a regular desktop. I even play games on it (albeit only Teeworlds and Armagetronad, but it's enough online gaming to kill time between classes; nothing hardcore). -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: How to automount USB disks at boot-up?
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 01:56:12PM +0100, Robert Latest wrote: Hello people, the subject says it all. I (often, but not always) have a portable USB disk connected to the computer that I would like to have automounted on boot. I could just knit some init script for this task, but before I do that I'd like to check if there is a canonical Debian way to achieve it. Thanks, robert Just put it into your /etc/fstab file. Read fstab(5) for more information about it, but as for your question the following line though do (keep in mind you'll most likely need to change the first four strings) /dev/sdb1 /media/disk-1 vfatdefaults0 0 -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: I look for a tool to archive mail older than 1 year or other value from imap accout
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:30:51AM +, KLEIN Stéphane wrote: Hi, I wounder if someone know one tool to archive mail older than some date value from imap account ? Thanks for your information, Stephane 'archivemail' is a pretty good program if you want to archive client-side data; I'm not sure about IMAP though. Perhaps you can sync, archive, resync? -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Linux desktop without mouse acceleration. Is it possible?
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 04:19:36PM +0100, Dirk wrote: Is it possible to permanently(!) disable mouse acceleration without having a cronjob running xset m 0 0 every minute? It would really make Linux a better gaming system if this ^%$!@ mouse acceleration would be permanently(!) disabled by default. Thanks, Dirk Haven't you spammed this mailing list enough? Four topics on the same subject now; you've gotten tons of suggestions from d-u, why not try some? -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Linux desktop without mouse acceleration. Is it possible?
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 07:44:58PM +0100, Dirk wrote: Dotan Cohen wrote: If you have a problem with trolling... well... let me welcome you to the internet. Well, then please go to the internet. We are not the internet, we are debian-user, a mailing list that just happens to be mirrored to the internet. You _could_ have just introduced him to goatse or something! geeez... the original goatse.cx was started like 10 years ago and suspended by christian-controlfreak-nazis like 5 years ago... i'll rather go to 4chan to ask for linux expertise next time... 4chan? That seems to show something about your intelligence - or rather, the lack thereof. Instead of spamming and trolling the list you may as well LEARN to properly use mailing lists; either that, or use the Debian forums (forums.debian.net). -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: need help on shell programming
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 04:54:28PM -0500, Long Wind wrote: I want a script. The script run a command, wait one minute, then run the command again, wait one minute again ... again and again ... Thanks! Sounds like a job for Cron! -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to find why packages are automatically installed?
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 05:34:09PM -0800, Michael M. Moore wrote: I thought I had this down by now, but I'm lost. I am in the process of removing much of GNOME, so I removed gnome-desktop-environment, which also removed gnome-core, and a whole bunch of other things. I also removed evolution. But I'm still left with a whole slew of automatically installed packages I don't want anymore, and I can't figure out how to identify why they are still installed. I thought the gconf2 package might be keeping them installed, but when I selected that for removal, several packages I want to keep (for example, quodlibet, which is not marked as automatically installed and does not depend gconf2) were also marked for deletion. I don't understand why that would be. Maybe there is no magic package that is keeping these things installed and I just need to selectively remove them one-by-one, along with the packages that will break but that I don't want anymore. I just thought I might be missing something obvious about the best way to take care of getting rid of a bunch of automatically installed packages relatively quickly. Any advice? Michael M. aptitude search ~A or aptitude search ~i | grep i A -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: how to find why packages are automatically installed?
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 05:17:50PM +, Graham wrote: On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 09:14:37 -0500 Michael Pobega pob...@gmail.com wrote: aptitude search ~A I think you meant: aptitude search ~M aptitude search ~A is used to search within an archive, like unstable, testing, etc. Info below. http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html#searchArchive Graham I guess I was quoting some outdated docs I found online; either outdated or wrong. Thanks. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Java in Debian 5
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 04:07:05PM +0900, Bret Busby wrote: On the web page at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#id2794519 is stated: 2.7. Java now in Debian The OpenJDK Java Runtime Environment openjdk-6-jre and Development Kit openjdk-6-jdk, needed for executing Java GUI and Webstart programs or building such programs, are now in Debian. The packages are built using the IcedTea build support and patches from the IcedTea project. Does this now mean that we cannot instal and run Debian 5 without Java, or that Debian cannot fully run without Java, in the same way that some versions of MS Windows cannot fully run without Internet Explorer? If you choose to use Java programs, you'll obviously need Java for them. But Debian doesn't come with anything that requires a Java interpreter out of the box, so no, you can happily run Debian 5.0 without Java. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: New Debian Wiki online with lot of working howtos
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 04:48:34PM -0800, Christoph Pilka wrote: Hi folks, I am working for several weeks on a new wiki containing lot lof interesting and _working_ howtos. You can find it at http://debian.asconix.com. The howtos explain step-by-step the setup of server or desktop installations. The first howtos I published cover topics like Lighttpd (+PHP/MySQL/ SSL), Awesome Window Manager, Zattoo IPTV, KeePassX as password manager, effective backups running on rsync, keybased SSH- authentication, VMware Workstation and Debian on NSLU2. The howtos are written in German, but will be translated next days. The wiki is multilingual, so if you're interested in translating the articles into other languages, please leave a comment. Same, if you have ideas which topics should be covered by a howto. The next howto I am working on covers the installation of the great ERP/CRM environment ADempiere on Debian. Another howto which will be published next week covers a complex Asterisk environment running at our office. So stay tuned ;-) Greets, Chris I don't mean to be a downer, but why not just write your HowTos on http://wiki.debian.org? It's a subdomain of the official Debian website, and from my experience splitting information between sites just makes things harder to find. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Install Debian GNU/Linux
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 02:29:06PM +0700, Cahaya Lilin wrote: Hello all.. I want to know is there Debian linux can install by copy the entire files in the hard disk to another hard disk ?? Because i already install linux in my computer and now i want to install linux in another computer but not install it from the cd, it would be good if Debian GNU/linux can install in another computer just by copy all of the files.. and is there setting i have to do ?? Thanx.. Look into debootstrap; it will install Debian into a separate partition, and you can copy your /home folder over (so you will have the same configuration). Of course, you'll need to reinstall all of the packages you've installed in your original Debian system, but I'm sure you expected that :] (Note: This isn't a method to clone a Debian system, this is a way to install a separate instance of Debian) -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ALSA devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 04:25:19PM +, T o n g wrote: [warning, long post] Hi, My recent upgrade caused my sound card not working any more. Checking back at my packages version log, the only related upgrade is that alsa-base_1.0.17.dfsg-2 is upgraded to alsa-base_1.0.17.dfsg-4. The rest are still the same: alsa-oss_1.0.15-1 alsa-utils_1.0.16-2 alsamixergui_0.9.0rc2-1-9 Yet, now I've got: $ ls /dev/dsp ls: cannot access /dev/dsp: No such file or directory $ cat /dev/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code) Kernel: Linux helios.selfip.org 2.6.26-grml #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Nov 26 21:41:43 UTC 2008 i686 Config options: 0 Installed drivers: Type 10: ALSA emulation Card config: VIA 8237 with AD1980 at 0xc800, irq 22 Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG Timers: 31: system timer Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG How should I fix that? FYI, the upgrade problem was more than that, I was able to fix another one: amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device which is what I get after successfully done the alsaconfig Loading driver... Setting default volumes... amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such device . . . Now ALSA is ready to use Here is a run-down of my sound card info: (Ref: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/ thread/40209b7807c493d0/329f7bac986a6a93?lnk=raotpli=1) $ hwinfo --sound 14: PCI 11.5: 0401 Multimedia audio controller [Created at pci.310] Unique ID: Ssy1.KzJ6TO9PmfB SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:11.5 SysFS BusID: :00:11.5 Hardware Class: sound Model: VIA VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller Vendor: pci 0x1106 VIA Technologies, Inc. Device: pci 0x3059 VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller SubVendor: pci 0x1043 ASUSTeK Computer Inc. SubDevice: pci 0x80b0 A7V600/K8V-X/K8V Deluxe motherboard (ADI AD1980 codec [SoundMAX]) Revision: 0x60 Driver: VIA 82xx Audio Driver Modules: snd_via82xx I/O Ports: 0xc800-0xc8ff (rw) IRQ: 22 (no events) Module Alias: pci:v1106d3059sv1043sd80B0bc04sc01i00 Driver Info #0: Driver Status: snd_via82xx is active Driver Activation Cmd: modprobe snd_via82xx Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown $ dpkg -l | grep asou ii libasound2 1.0.16-2 ALSA library $ dpkg -l | grep alsa ii alsa-base 1.0.17.dfsg-4 ALSA driver configuration files ii alsa-oss 1.0.15-1 ALSA wrapper for OSS applications ii alsa-utils 1.0.16-2 ALSA utilities ii alsamixergui 0.9.0rc2-1-9 graphical soundcard mixer for ALSA soundcard ii libesd-alsa0 0.2.36-3 Enlightened Sound Daemon (ALSA) - Shared lib $ lsmod | grep snd snd_via82xx22808 0 gameport 11788 1 snd_via82xx snd_mpu401_uart 7936 1 snd_via82xx snd_via82xx_modem 12040 0 snd_ac97_codec 91428 2 snd_via82xx,snd_via82xx_modem snd_seq_midi7680 0 snd_seq_midi_event 7552 1 snd_seq_midi snd_rawmidi19200 2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi ac97_bus3584 1 snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm59396 3 snd_via82xx,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_ac97_codec snd_seq42816 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 18696 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 7692 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq snd44344 9 snd_via82xx,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_ac97_codec,snd_rawmidi,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device snd_page_alloc 9096 3 snd_via82xx,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_pcm soundcore 7496 1 snd $ cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16. $ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [V8237 ]: VIA8237 - VIA 8237 VIA 8237 with AD1980 at 0xc800, irq 22 $ cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 76 IO-APIC-edge timer 1: 1192 IO-APIC-edge i8042 6: 3 IO-APIC-edge floppy 8: 5 IO-APIC-edge rtc0 9: 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi acpi 12: 105467 IO-APIC-edge i8042 14: 40 IO-APIC-edge pata_via 15: 99 IO-APIC-edge pata_via 16: 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi rad...@pci::01:00.0 17: 3184 IO-APIC-fasteoi eth0 20: 32542 IO-APIC-fasteoi sata_via 21: 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi uhci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb2, uhci_hcd:usb3, uhci_hcd:usb4, ehci_hcd:usb5 22: 0 IO-APIC-fasteoi VIA8237 NMI: 0 Non-maskable interrupts LOC: 122874 Local
Re: Orphaned packages libs removal question
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 10:24:50AM -0600, John W Foster wrote: I want to clean up my system as best I can. I have installed the gtkorphan and deborphan for this purpose. My question is will these ONLY remove .deb installed libs. I have several non-debian apps that I use and do NOT want to remove libs that they require. Any suggestions?? Thanks! Deborphans job is to check for orphaned Debian packages, and to my understanding that doesn't include packages compiled from source. When it comes to those you may want to apt-pin them and mark them as irremovable -- then when you use Deborphan it should skip over the pinned libs. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: On battery power, so skipping file system check when in AC power
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 07:15:46AM +, Virgo Pärna wrote: Does anyone else also receives On battery power, so skipping file system check warning, when starting up a laptop with AC power connected? Especially in Lenny. Is your ACPI working properly? There may be an ACPI problem that causes the computer to not be able to tell the OS if it's on AC power or not. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Upgrading kernel on a system that won't boot
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:39:18PM -0500, Dan Christensen wrote: I have a system running etch. I believe it has this kernel installed: linux-image-2.6.18-5-k7 2.6.18.dfsg.1-13etch2 The motherboard failed a few days ago, and I've just got a new motherboard and cpu. However, the machine won't boot. The new cpu is a Core2Duo, but even though the kernel is -k7, that doesn't seem to be the problem. Grub finds the kernel and it starts fine, but it has trouble when trying to mount the real root filesystem. This filesystem is raid 1 (md), and the kernel can't find either device. The hard drives are SATA, and the BIOS lets me configure them as Legacy ATA, RAID or AHCI. I've tried Legacy ATA and AHCI, and neither works. A recent live CD is able to see the drives without any trouble, so I suspect I need a newer kernel. Finally my question: can someone explain how to boot from a live CD and upgrade the kernel I have installed? Do I just mount the various filesystems into a subtree, chroot to the root of that subtree, adjust sources.list, and do the upgrade? Secondary question: Will the dependencies allow this without essentially upgrading to lenny? Or is there an etch backport of a more recent kernel? Or maybe I should just compile one from source for now? Or is there an alternative, manual way to drop a new pre-compiled kernel onto the existing system? Thanks for any help, Dan What I would do is put a live system on a USB flash drive (System Rescue CD is what I usually use) and mount the unbootable hard drive from within the live system. At that point you could wget a kernel deb from http://ftp.uk.debian.org onto your old mounted hard drive. chroot into your drive's mount point, dpkg -i linux-image-*, and you're done; your system should now be bootable. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Upgrade Debian testing to stable at Sunday
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:09:33AM -0500, Jason Voorhees wrote: Hi people: I got a business with one of my customers to install him a Firewall+Proxy+VPN running Debian this Saturdary 14th. I was thinking about installing Debian Etch because I din't know that Lenny was so close to come. Now I think I would like to install Debian Lenny but maybe at the time I will do the installation (at 14:00 GMT) maybe Debian isn't released yet or I won't have enough time to download the ISO image. If I install Debian Testing at Saturday and then I upgrade to Stable at Sunday... will I get any kind of problem? would you suggest to install debian testing and then upgrade to stable some hours (or days) ago? If you install Lenny on Saturday and Lenny doesn't become stable by Sunday, and you still do the upgrade, you may have some problems. As stated in another e-mail your best bet is to just specify lenny in your /etc/apt/sources.list, so that you'll track is by release name instead of type (stable, testing, unstable). The only time you use the release type is for a rolling release system (testing for home computers, for example). Thanks -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Upgrading kernel on a system that won't boot
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 06:16:32PM -0500, Dan Christensen wrote: Michael Pobega pob...@gmail.com writes: What I would do is put a live system on a USB flash drive (System Rescue CD is what I usually use) and mount the unbootable hard drive from within the live system. At that point you could wget a kernel deb from http://ftp.uk.debian.org onto your old mounted hard drive. chroot into your drive's mount point, dpkg -i linux-image-*, and you're done; your system should now be bootable. Thanks, I suspected that that would be a reasonable plan, and I've just checked that this doesn't seem to require upgrades to user space. Now one thing about my system is that mounting /usr will be a bit awkward, since it is lvm over several raid 5 devices. Can anyone think of a way to install a kernel .deb without having /usr mounted? If I just unpack it with dpkg-deb, copy the kernel, initrd and modules dir to the right place, and update grub, will that be enough?? Thanks, Dan Run from a LiveCD and use dpkg with the --root option. Read dpkg(1) for more information. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Upgrading kernel on a system that won't boot
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 08:50:19PM -0500, Dan Christensen wrote: Michael Pobega pob...@gmail.com writes: On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 06:16:32PM -0500, Dan Christensen wrote: Now one thing about my system is that mounting /usr will be a bit awkward, since it is lvm over several raid 5 devices. Can anyone think of a way to install a kernel .deb without having /usr mounted? Run from a LiveCD and use dpkg with the --root option. Read dpkg(1) for more information. It turns out /var is also on lvm, so that probably wouldn't work either. But I tried sysresccd 1.1.5 and found that it automatically assembled the raid devices and started lvm! All I needed to do was vgchange -a y to make them available. So I just got everything mounted and used the chroot method. The machine is up and running again. Thanks so much for your help! Dan Not a problem; it's reasons like that I advise using the Sysresccd. It tends to work on 99% of setups, and does it what is meant to do: rescue systems. Anyway, glad to see you got it working. Have fun and happy Debian-ing! -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Which programming Language
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 08:13:13AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 12:56:48AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 08:20:30PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 11:40:29AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 09:39:20AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 06:25:31PM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: This is why I'm transitioning to Ada. If I have to port anyway, I may as well port to a compiled language. Ada was written as a standard long before the first compiler was done, then the compilers had to meet the standard. Ada programs are totally portable from one machine to another (unless, of course, you import a non-Ada function that is not the same on all machines). Ada is designed to allow for the long-term maintenance of programs. also, you can just compile your Python code and you won't run into that problem. Someone has a python compiler (*.py to an executable)? Yes, I know that python *.py modules get compiled into *.pyc byte-code but that still has to go through the python interpreter. Also, what happens in 10 years when I want to make a slight change to a program? Doug. Well, to be fair, who is really to say the compiler will go missing? I've never heard of a popular language's compiler/interpretor going missing, especially considering that every Linux distribution mirrors it. I bet that in ten years Debian will still have a legacy package for Python 2.x interpreters. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Which programming Language
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 09:39:20AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 06:25:31PM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: HI, There are many and many programming languages (mainly : C,C++,java, Shell, Perl, python, php). which learn and use, in which circonstances use that language instead of the other. In many situations we can use anyone, but which is better. If you are running on *NIX, the ability to at least read a sh script is very helpful. I haven't spent enough time figuring out the syntax of test (multiple [ with or without spaces); seems too arcane unless you do it every day. I use sh the way DOS uses .bat files. If its more complicated, I go to something else. I've done a lot in Python. I have a lot of python programs. The new version of python will change the print statement to a print function (among other language changes) which will mean porting old stuff to new. Yuck. Doug, from what I understand the new version of Python won't replace Python 2.x, but instead it will be somewhat of a fork -- there are still plans for development of a Python 2.7, as to not break compatibility while still allowing for improvements (though, it is suggested that you port everything to new) -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Which programming Language
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 08:20:30PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 11:40:29AM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 09:39:20AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 06:25:31PM +0100, Abdelkader Belahcene wrote: I've done a lot in Python. I have a lot of python programs. The new version of python will change the print statement to a print function (among other language changes) which will mean porting old stuff to new. Yuck. Doug, from what I understand the new version of Python won't replace Python 2.x, but instead it will be somewhat of a fork -- there are still plans for development of a Python 2.7, as to not break compatibility while still allowing for improvements (though, it is suggested that you port everything to new) Yes, I understand that there will be a substantial overlap period, however, this means that while I'm maintaining old stuff and writing new, I have to remember which dialect I'm using. Sort of like having two different FORTRAN compliers in one shop. This is why I'm transitioning to Ada. If I have to port anyway, I may as well port to a compiled language. Ada was written as a standard long before the first compiler was done, then the compilers had to meet the standard. Ada programs are totally portable from one machine to another (unless, of course, you import a non-Ada function that is not the same on all machines). Ada is designed to allow for the long-term maintenance of programs. Which is another issue. I still have Fortran77 code in production. Fortran77 won't change. In 15 years, there may not be a 2.x python interpreter available (i.e. maintained for security issues). If I stuck with python, in 15 years I'd still have to remember how to code in 2.x and 3.x (and 4.x?). In 15 years, Ada95 will still be Ada95. Think how long sh scripts have been around. You could take the first sh script and run it today unmodified. When your software has a long lifespan, there's a lot to be said for it to be written in a language with a standard behind it. Doug. As true as this is, are there any good libraries written for Ada? also, you can just compile your Python code and you won't run into that problem. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Which programming Language
On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 10:39:58PM +, Michal R. Hoffmann wrote: On 06/02/09 21:40, jatos.softw...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say, if you want to get into programming seriously DO NOT start with Python or BASIC. Why? Because their syntax is very different to the languages (such as C) used for more mainstream purposes. If start with Python or BASIC your going to have a much harder time learning C, which is what most programs are written in. Also things like Java and PHP use a syntax that's very C likeM So I very strongly advise, speaking as somebody who learn't BASIC and regretted it frankly, don't learn BASIC unless that's all you intend to ever use. C will, PHP or Java will be a lot better places to start. C will be the most difficult but also the most useful. Jamie C# may be a good alternative. It's similar in many ways to C++, Java, Object Pascal (Delphi), rather strict, and quite portable. I actually consider PHP to be a good starting point for programming; it's easy to use, and easy to build a GUI around (HTML is exponentially easier than GTK/Qt/Tk), teaches functional programming, and has C-styled syntax. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: social networks
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 08:01:28PM +0100, Jesus arteche wrote: hey, some time ago i heard that there was some proyect in open source about social networks...someone knows wher can find about it? thanks http://identi.ca ? Or do you mean something else? -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/mpobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Offtopic?] IRC blocked at school
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 09:58:04AM +0530, Kousik Maiti wrote: Hello everybody, For IRC check http://www.mibbit.com/.. Enjoy I don't know if you read the rest of the thread but I stated at one point that I'd like to avoid web-based IRC services. I appreciate the effort though. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/mpobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Offtopic?] IRC blocked at school
On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 09:00:28AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: I just got into my new dorm room, only to find out that they block all IRC clients. I find this pretty disheartening since I often lurk on #debian and #debian-eeepc Is there any good way to tunnel or encrypt my data, or something similar? I am looking for something feasible, considering I can't afford to run my own tunnel or proxy. You could always use XMPP to connect to IRC. Some site implementations support for connecting to protocols it obsoleted, such as IRC, AIM, MSN, etc. Do you know of any XMPP servers with an IRC transport? I've never heard of that. I mean, I've heard of AIM/MSN/etc, but never IRC. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/mpobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [Offtopic?] IRC blocked at school
On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:25:04AM -0600, Stackpole, Chris wrote: From: Michael Pobega [mailto:pob...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [Offtopic?] IRC blocked at school On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 05:11:44PM -0500, Paul Gupta wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: I just got into my new dorm room, only to find out that they block all IRC clients. I find this pretty disheartening since I often lurk on #debian and #debian-eeepc Is there any good way to tunnel or encrypt my data, or something similar? I am looking for something feasible, considering I can't afford to run my own tunnel or proxy. Do you have access to an SSH server somewhere? Nope. I wish I had a blinkenshell account, but I can't actually get into IRC to get two members to vouch for me. Does anyone know of any good free/cheap shell services that offer IRC? (I wouldn't mind paying say $1/month for it, but it'd be preferable not to since I don't have my own PayPal). I know I am late to the party, but thought I would chime in anyway. It has been a few years, but when I had the same issues at my school I used SDF ( http://sdf.lonestar.org ). I am not sure about pricing now, but back then they only required 1$ to sign up and that was just to prevent people from using their services as spam/attacks/ect. It was a good when I needed it. Have fun! ~Stack~ Thanks for the tipoff, perhaps I'll pay their price to use IRC, but do they have irssi as an IRC client? Perhaps I'll give it a spin this Sunday, as IRC access is free on Sundays. -- http://identica/mpobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[Offtopic?] IRC blocked at school
I just got into my new dorm room, only to find out that they block all IRC clients. I find this pretty disheartening since I often lurk on #debian and #debian-eeepc Is there any good way to tunnel or encrypt my data, or something similar? I am looking for something feasible, considering I can't afford to run my own tunnel or proxy. -- http://identica/mpobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Offtopic?] IRC blocked at school
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 02:32:35PM -0800, L Glidewell wrote: On Monday 19 January 2009 14:08:56 Michael Pobega wrote: I just got into my new dorm room, only to find out that they block all IRC clients. I find this pretty disheartening since I often lurk on #debian and #debian-eeepc Is there any good way to tunnel or encrypt my data, or something similar? I am looking for something feasible, considering I can't afford to run my own tunnel or proxy. I doubt they block the clients, but rather the ports used by said clients. Also, try Mibbit if you haven't yet. Well yeah, web-based IRC works but I'd like to avoid it since I monitor so many channels and have accounts on four IRC networks. I'd be a pain to spend a whole two minutes logging into everything. I've read about ezbounce, but I'd need a computer between my own and the IRC server to use it, right? Or could I host it locally for the same effect? -- http://identica/mpobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Offtopic?] IRC blocked at school
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 05:11:44PM -0500, Paul Gupta wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: I just got into my new dorm room, only to find out that they block all IRC clients. I find this pretty disheartening since I often lurk on #debian and #debian-eeepc Is there any good way to tunnel or encrypt my data, or something similar? I am looking for something feasible, considering I can't afford to run my own tunnel or proxy. Do you have access to an SSH server somewhere? Nope. I wish I had a blinkenshell account, but I can't actually get into IRC to get two members to vouch for me. Does anyone know of any good free/cheap shell services that offer IRC? (I wouldn't mind paying say $1/month for it, but it'd be preferable not to since I don't have my own PayPal). -- http://identica/mpobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [Offtopic?] IRC blocked at school
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 02:56:42PM -0800, L Glidewell wrote: On Monday 19 January 2009 14:48:37 Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 02:32:35PM -0800, L Glidewell wrote: On Monday 19 January 2009 14:08:56 Michael Pobega wrote: I just got into my new dorm room, only to find out that they block all IRC clients. I find this pretty disheartening since I often lurk on #debian and #debian-eeepc Is there any good way to tunnel or encrypt my data, or something similar? I am looking for something feasible, considering I can't afford to run my own tunnel or proxy. I doubt they block the clients, but rather the ports used by said clients. Also, try Mibbit if you haven't yet. Well yeah, web-based IRC works but I'd like to avoid it since I monitor so many channels and have accounts on four IRC networks. I'd be a pain to spend a whole two minutes logging into everything. I've read about ezbounce, but I'd need a computer between my own and the IRC server to use it, right? Or could I host it locally for the same effect? My point was just that some irc networks offer non-default ports - partly just for the security of client software, since non-standard ports make some exploits a lot less efficient. Wow, that actually worked. I didn't realize that Freenode offered connections on non-standard ports (I actually gave up looking after I found out they removed SSL encryption, since I figured that's what I needed). Thanks for the help, sorry that the answer was so damn trivial. Now let's wait and see when they realize that I am using IRC... Which will happen within the week, I'm sure. -- http://identica/mpobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Help with u tube video streaming
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 10:14:31AM +1000, Adrian Levi wrote: 2009/1/10 Michael Pobega pob...@gmail.com: On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 10:38:34PM +, Chris S wrote: Hello everyone genius type people, Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you guys) they ran perfectlly but now the video is very 'jerky'. I am unsure about the further details you require and so instead of guessing could you let me know what you need (and maybe how to find it) I will send you the details. I have googled myself to near insanity but cannot find anything that directly helps. My apologies if I'm not being clear or doing something wrong. I'm not trying to say something completely useless here, but perhaps you should try updated to Lenny? Etch is soon to be an unsupported version of Debian, so I would honestly upgrade before getting into anything. Yes it is soon to be oldstable but security fixes will still apply to it for some time. Updating to Lenny for a new user for your reason above is 1) Unnessesary to fix this problem, 2) can create more problems than he is trying to fix and 3) Lenny is not stable yet. I don't really agree with that. Lenny already has very few RC bugs and has been in freeze for quite a while. In my opinion Lenny would be easier for a new user, as it will avoid the (often) troublesome upgrade process. Also, Lenny may include some updated video drivers that may or may not fix Chris' problem; I don't see how trying to nip something like this in the bud could create problems. Though it's really up to Chris in the end anyway -- This is all just idle chatter. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Help with u tube video streaming
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 10:38:34PM +, Chris S wrote: Hello everyone genius type people, Can you help, I don't know much about computers (in comparison to you guys) and nearly zero about linux/debian, however after my friend had a rather fatal problem with windows recently I decided to try Debian and I love it. So I installed the lastest stable version, etch, and have very nearly got a system with the same functionality as the old windows system however I simply cannot seem to get u tube videos to play correctly., under windows they ran perfectlly but now the video is very 'jerky'. I am unsure about the further details you require and so instead of guessing could you let me know what you need (and maybe how to find it) I will send you the details. I have googled myself to near insanity but cannot find anything that directly helps. My apologies if I'm not being clear or doing something wrong. I'm not trying to say something completely useless here, but perhaps you should try updated to Lenny? Etch is soon to be an unsupported version of Debian, so I would honestly upgrade before getting into anything. Anyway, I've had lots of problems with flash in Debian, so I eventually dumped it. For my YouTube fix I'm using a Greasemonkey script[1] to play YouTube videos in mplayer (for this you'll need the mplayer browser plugin) Also, for simpler problems like this, perhaps #debian is more suitable? You'll get quicker answers to these questions instead of waiting for hours. [1]http://www.gc-group.dk/youtube/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian way to set up iptables rules?
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Re: Debian way to set up iptables rules?
On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 08:59:54PM +0100, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Hi. Which is the default/designated way in Debian to set up iptables rules on system boot? I mean the /etc/init.d scripts is long gone... ;) Thanks, Chris. I used to use iptables, until I found Shorewall. It's a completely configuration file driver implementation of iptables, but it makes writing the rules so much easier. You just have to give it information about your interfaces, and ports you use, and shorewall really handles the rest. I recommend it to anyone who doesn't want a GUI firewall, but doesn't want to configure iptables manually. Edit: I resent this message because something went wrong with the last...I have no clue what happened. -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega Or read my blog @ http://pobega.wordpress.com An Open World AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:pob...@gmail.com JIM:pob...@jaim.at SIP:pob...@ekiga.net ICQ:467047394 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: OT: laptop recomendations
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:45:09AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: Hello, Sorry for being a bit off topic but it's time for a new laptop that will run linux solely and I'm looking for recomendation on what has a good build quallity (will travel), descent battery life, although more important is good computing power and a good screen at 15.4 (needs to be workable with the screen) at a price range of around 1500$ rough ballpark. Good service is a must since it's a working laptop. I know that hp and compaq are a big no no (build quality is shaky at best). I also have the worst experience possible with Sony support on just about every continent (haven't managed to run into worse). Lenovo 3000 series also has a bad track run at our uni in terms of build quallity, no experience with the ideapad pad heard that they are not much brighter. I will definitely recommend anything made by Asus. I own an Eee PC (obviously way smaller and cheaper than what you are looking for), but I have to say the build quality is acceptable. I've had the keyboard break once, the touchpad buttons are crap (but this is acceptable since the touchpad itself is slick to the touch and tap sensitive; it's gorgeous in that regard)(also, my Eee is one of the original models, so the hardware isn't as reliable as the newer Eees/higher end Asus laptops). Other than that, the hardware is reliable. I've had no internal problems whatsoever, and Asus' tech support is fantastic; they've given me no problems (as I've yet to mod my Eee), and their techs are generally knowledgeable. Thanks Not a problem. -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega Or read my blog @ http://pobega.wordpress.com An Open World AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:pob...@gmail.com JIM:pob...@jaim.at SIP:pob...@ekiga.net ICQ:467047394 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: receive system mail into inbox?
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 01:14:43PM -0600, John Hasler wrote: Jack wrote: Hello, is it possible to receive system user mail (the mail one can usually read using the command line mail program, for example system error reports) as normal mail through kmail or any other desktop mail program? If yes, how to configure to do so? man etc-aliases That man page doesn't exit. I'd like to do the same thing as the OP, but I'm using Mutt and I don't know how to configure it for two accounts -- Can't I just get the system to dump all system mail in ~/email/? -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:467047394 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to send tunes to MP3 player?
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 06:40:52PM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: Michael Pobega wrote the following on 11/16/2008 05:28 PM: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 05:08:42PM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: Michael Pobega wrote the following on 11/16/2008 03:36 PM: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 03:29:23PM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: Greetings; Is there a program on Debian/lenny that will send/write tunes onto an MP3 player? It is one of those little ones that you plug into a USB port. On windows we use Win. Media Player but haven't found anything shat seems to work on Debian yet. TIA! Dennis We're going to need more information before we can help you -- Does the mp3 player have a brand name? Is it a mount'n'drop? Or does it need some sort of proprietary tool like iTunes? Michael, et al, The device is a Sandisk model Sansa Clip. On Windows it works with Windows Media Player with no special software or tools so I would guess that there should be something similar in linux that it would work with. TNX, Dennsi Have you tried just simply mounting the device and looking through the filesystem? There is most likely a directory named music with mp3s in them. Yes. There isn't. There are a few directories, but nothing shows in them that are MP3s. I know there are songs on the device so I don't want to try and risk the chance of wiping out what is there. Music Player comes up when I plug in the device but even though it shows the device It isn't accessible, either to playback or load. Before doing anything, make sure the firmware is at it's newest version. Apparently the update application is only available for Windows, although you could try it in Wine. Once you have updated the firmware try this while in the root directory of your device; cat audio_folders=MUSIC/,RECORD/ .is_audio_player Then make a directory called MUSIC to dump your music, and if it already exists just place your mp3s there. -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:467047394 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: index.php does not open instead download
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 09:49:34PM +0100, Lars Kuppert wrote: Hi everybody, just setting up my vmware server (just for testing). I put an index.php into the server folder. But instead of opening it, firefox wanna download the index.php. Why that? Greetings, lars Do you have PHP installed on the server? -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:467047394 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: Looking for free email service with disposable email addresses
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 09:45:00PM +, Ananda Samaddar wrote: David Fox wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By default, original emails to the list are not echoed. This may be list wide or is a google policy to prevent duplicate mails. It's a Google policy and it makes using mailings lists very difficult indeed. Also their IMAP support is truly atrocious. That's a matter of opinion. I use Google's IMAP services and I love it, especially because all of the filtering is done server-side so it saves me time and energy. I really don't see what's so atrocious about it. -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:467047394 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: index.php does not open instead download
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:54:12PM +0100, Lars Kuppert wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 09:49:34PM +0100, Lars Kuppert wrote: Hi everybody, just setting up my vmware server (just for testing). I put an index.php into the server folder. But instead of opening it, firefox wanna download the index.php. Why that? Greetings, lars Do you have PHP installed on the server? Sure :) As Lars suggested in another email, you're probably missing the PHP library for your web server. If you're using Apache the package is called libapache2-mod-php5. -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:467047394 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: index.php does not open instead download
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:54:12PM +0100, Lars Kuppert wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 09:49:34PM +0100, Lars Kuppert wrote: Hi everybody, just setting up my vmware server (just for testing). I put an index.php into the server folder. But instead of opening it, firefox wanna download the index.php. Why that? Greetings, lars Do you have PHP installed on the server? Sure :) As Elijah said in another thread, you are probably missing the PHP library. Are you sure that you installed it properly? If the web server is running Apache2 you can install the libapache2-mod-php5 package which enables Apache support for PHP 5. If you're running another web server look through the documentation to make sure you installed PHP correctly. -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:467047394 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: Looking for free email service with disposable email addresses
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 2:16 AM, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By default, original emails to the list are not echoed. This may be list wide or is a google policy to prevent duplicate mails. Google gets your message back from the list server, but it hides it by default. I'm fairly sure it is available in you gmail inbox if you dig hard enough. Actually, with IMAP I see my own messages about 90% of the time. I find it weird that they sometimes don't come back to me, though. -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:467047394 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: Looking for free email service with disposable email addresses
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 10:32:31PM +, Ananda Samaddar wrote: Michael Pobega wrote: That's a matter of opinion. I use Google's IMAP services and I love it, especially because all of the filtering is done server-side so it saves me time and energy. I really don't see what's so atrocious about it. It's off topic but you asked: [...] http://brian.pontarelli.com/2007/12/22/gmail-imap-doesnt-work-for-mailing-lists-conversations/ [...] Anyway I hope this answers your query. Ananda Well, are there any good alternatives to Gmail? I can't really afford to purchase mail space, or a web host, so I'm kinda stuck to free services. -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:467047394 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT: Looking for free email service with disposable email addresses
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 07:51:42PM -0500, Celejar wrote: On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:11:13 -0500 Michael Pobega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, are there any good alternatives to Gmail? I can't really afford to purchase mail space, or a web host, so I'm kinda stuck to free services. Check out lavabit.com. There's a free account option, although it's limited to 128 MB of storage, 1024 incoming emails a day and 256 outgoing. They do offer IMAP, though, and they use FLOSS. I have had good results with them, although I haven't used the service heavily. http://lavabit.com/personal_e_mail.html http://lavabit.com/hardware_software.html http://lavabit.com/features.html Celejar Are you sure they offer IMAP? They say on their site that they are still working on it. -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:467047394 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: eeepc
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:30:48AM +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 06:01:52PM -0500, Michael Pobega wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:12:03PM +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote: Hi, I am considering a eeepc, and need wireless. How is wireless support with lenny on the latest eeepc? And what is the process of configuring wireless? Thanks, Danny I'm on an Eee PC 900 now, and I can say that the wireless is supported very well. I think the 700 and 901 have same the wireless card, whereas the 1000H and S101 have other cards, although again, I'm not 100% sure. And from what I've read ath5k has support for the Eee PC's wireless card, but with varied success from users. Ok, thanks I'll have a look... So if I buy the latest one in the shops here in Australia, am I likely to face problems? Thanks, Danny Probably not, it is entirely dependant on the model, though I think all models are supported (I just can't say for sure since I only own a 900). The Debian Wiki Eee PC page[1] may be of interest to you, it was an invaluable source of information for me when I was initially installing Debian on my Eee PC. There is also a beta installer that supports WiFi with WPA encryption, I'd suggest you use that one so your wireless will work out of the box. If not there is a page[2] all about configuring wireless drivers. You may also want to check out this page[3], which compares all the Eee PC models and their features along with Debian's support for each. Apparently the 904HD is completely unsupported, so I would avoid that model at all costs (It's ugly as hell, anyway) [1]http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC [2]http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/HowTo/Wifi [3]http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Models -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Firewall Utilities
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 06:56:48PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 01:59:43PM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: For about ten years I've been writing my own firewall directives and today I started setting up a new firewall box. For the past year I've been using ipcop, but they have some characteristics that I didn't care for. after this I think I am left with a few options: ferm shorewall arno-iptables-firewall I use shorewall. No GUI. Great doc in shorewall-doc. You can use it for everything from simple to whatever, as your needs change. Config with various simple files in /etc/shorewall/. doug. I'm using Shorewall now, just switched over from pure iptables (which was a b*tch to keep up with), do you know of any reliable way to make sure my firewall is working? I'm behind a router so I don't think any of those TCP scanning sites would work. -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 8x12 inch images
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:50:20AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I was asked to provide jpeg images that are 8x12 inch prints. But I don't have a printer, only the images. How can I make sure the images print @ 8x12 inch. Does that make sense? Hugo You could use The Gimp to shrink/expand the images to make sure they are exactly 8x12 inches. -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to send tunes to MP3 player?
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 03:29:23PM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: Greetings; Is there a program on Debian/lenny that will send/write tunes onto an MP3 player? It is one of those little ones that you plug into a USB port. On windows we use Win. Media Player but haven't found anything shat seems to work on Debian yet. TIA! Dennis We're going to need more information before we can help you -- Does the mp3 player have a brand name? Is it a mount'n'drop? Or does it need some sort of proprietary tool like iTunes? -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: How to send tunes to MP3 player?
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 05:08:42PM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: Michael Pobega wrote the following on 11/16/2008 03:36 PM: On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 03:29:23PM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: Greetings; Is there a program on Debian/lenny that will send/write tunes onto an MP3 player? It is one of those little ones that you plug into a USB port. On windows we use Win. Media Player but haven't found anything shat seems to work on Debian yet. TIA! Dennis We're going to need more information before we can help you -- Does the mp3 player have a brand name? Is it a mount'n'drop? Or does it need some sort of proprietary tool like iTunes? Michael, et al, The device is a Sandisk model Sansa Clip. On Windows it works with Windows Media Player with no special software or tools so I would guess that there should be something similar in linux that it would work with. TNX, Dennsi Have you tried just simply mounting the device and looking through the filesystem? There is most likely a directory named music with mp3s in them. -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:467047394 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Firewall Utilities
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 05:59:50PM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Sunday 16 November 2008 12:00, Michael Pobega wrote: Do you know of any reliable way to make sure my firewall is working? I'm behind a router so I don't think any of those TCP scanning sites would work. nmap from various locations is my general testing proceedure. There might be more aggressive scanners available as well. Thank you so much, I was trying to remember nmap's name for the whole day. Would doing it from one laptop to this one over LAN be enough of a check? -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] SIP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:467047394 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: eeepc
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 10:12:03PM +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote: Hi, I am considering a eeepc, and need wireless. How is wireless support with lenny on the latest eeepc? And what is the process of configuring wireless? Thanks, Danny I'm on an Eee PC 900 now, and I can say that the wireless is supported very well. I think the 700 and 901 have same the wireless card, whereas the 1000H and S101 have other cards, although again, I'm not 100% sure. And from what I've read ath5k has support for the Eee PC's wireless card, but with varied success from users. -- Follow my Tweets at http://twitter.com/pobega AIM:BlockMeHarder MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Canadian Walmart Photo Centre Problems?
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 09:28:10AM -0500, Doug Mitton wrote: On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:31:16 +0100, you wrote: Hi All; I'm looking to see if anyone can confirm a change on the Walmart Photo web site. It appears it has gone Internet Explorer only as I can't get Konqueror or Mozilla on Linux (or WinXP) to work. The clerk at the store says she is processing online orders. It was working fine for the last couple of years and up to 1 month ago. The look is now different also. I submit photos regularly online then go to the store and pick them up. My main use of this though is to send pictures to my parents in another province who do not have a computer. Sometime in the last month it appears they have started using a new shopping cart vendor. Regardless, the new system allows uploading, editting and the like BUT as soon as you select photos to send to the Shopping Cart the list is empty and the message states you must select size, finish and quantity prior to submitting your order. As you might expect there is no Contact Us link on the photo site or the shopping-cart software. I have sent a message via the main Walmart page but it is a Mon-Fri only system. Regardless, do any other Linux using Canadians use this service, is it working for you and if so, what browser are you using? TIA! Well, I haven't really heard from Walmart BUT I have found a solution. I have been using Mozilla Firefox 1.5.x since my original installation. It seems that Walmart has now made this version obsolete. If I upgrade to (interim) 2.0.0.17 or the current 3.0.3 all is working again. I guess I'm a little at fault BUT I do wish they would provide meaningful error messages in situations like this. My poor-ole 1.5.x version was working so well. Any way, it seems to be resolved ... for now! Thanks for all the feedback and comments! Heh. This is why you should always keep your programs updated to the most recent version, especially for something as commonly used as Firefox. In case you have more problems you could try the User Agent Switch plugin for Firefox, I've had very good success setting my Firefox to show up as Netscape on Vista. -- AIM: BlockMeHarder MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JIM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Follow my Tweets; http://twitter.com/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
