Making gnuplot plot to file
Could anyone tell me how to make gnuplot output its plots to (eg) a postscript file. I have tried gnuplot set output outfile.ps gnuplot plot 'myplot' but it plots to screen. When I exit, there is and outfile.ps, but it is zero bytes. Any help appriciated TIA Rich
Re: Making gnuplot plot to file
Thanks very much for this. Cheers Rich Ian Peters wrote: On Tue, May 11, 1999 at 11:23:52AM +, Richard Harran wrote: Could anyone tell me how to make gnuplot output its plots to (eg) a postscript file. I have tried gnuplot set output outfile.ps gnuplot plot 'myplot' but it plots to screen. When I exit, there is and outfile.ps, but it is zero bytes. Try help term inside of gnuplot. Short version: gnuplot set term post Options are 'landscape noenhanced monochrome dashed defaultplex Helvetica 14' gnuplot set out outfile.ps gnuplot ... -- Ian Peters I never let schooling interfere with my education. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mark Twain
Printing from octave
Could someone please tell me how to get octave to print graphs (preferably to a file). I've tried RTFM, but it's not really helping me here. Thanks in advance Rich
Re: ftp of complicated directory structure
Thanks for all the suggestions Cheers Rich
filtering of text files
I need to filter some text files to convert all the letters to the same case, and to remove punctuation. I guess I should use 'sed', but the man page is disfunct, and I'm struggling with the info. Could someone give me a hint (particularly for the case change thing). Cheers Rich
Re: filtering of text files
Also thanks to all those who suggested this or awk, or ways to use sed: Ian, Marc and Stephan. (I posted before reading, always daft). Thanks again Rich Richard Harran wrote: Ok, I'm replying to my own post. I found I could do what I wanted with 'tr', which has a usable man page. Cheers Rich Richard Harran wrote: I need to filter some text files to convert all the letters to the same case, and to remove punctuation. I guess I should use 'sed', but the man page is disfunct, and I'm struggling with the info. Could someone give me a hint (particularly for the case change thing). Cheers Rich -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: fvwm95 stuffed up - StartMenu gone
You could try a ~/.fvwm95rc (which ?would? overide the /etc one). The relavent sections of mine are: AddToMenu /Debian + Debian Menu Title # note I only use my own menus, you might want: # Read /etc/whatever/menudefs.hook, for the autogenerated stuff Read .fvwm95/menudefs.hook Read .fvwm95/main-menu.hook AddToMenu /Debian + Nop + Exit Fvwm Popup Quit-Verify # quit verify is defined later # Then later: #-- FvwmTaskBar # some stuff *FvwmTaskBarStartMenu /Debian # This is probably where your problem is: you have /StartMenu where # I have /Debian directly above, and no 'AddToMenu /StartMenu's If you like, if this doesn't fix it, I can send you more details from my config files, but I don't just want to dump them on this list. HTH Rich Raymond A. Ingles wrote: Since I upgraded to Debian 2.1, fvwm95 has been acting up. The FvwmButtons seem to be working okay, and the TaskBar shows up, but the StartMenu doesn't work. The button is there, and putting the mouse over it shows the Click here to start message, but clicking on it does nothing. When I exit the window manager, I get an error message saying that the StartMenu is undefined. I've tried to copy the vanilla system.fvwm95rc and example.fvwm95rc out of /usr/doc/fvwm95/ to the places they go, but still no dice. My wife is the one who uses Fvwm95, I tend to stick with Fvwm2, which is working okay. Using the Buttons panel, she's still able to fire up rxvt's and Netscape, and I've taught her to use ctrl-alt-backspace to kill X when she's done. Still, this is annoying, and I can't seem to fix it. Any FM I should R? Any suggestions, comments, sympathies? Sincerely, Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735[EMAIL PROTECTED] C makes it easy to shoot yourself in the foot. C++ makes it harder, but when you do you blow your whole leg off. - Bjarne Stroustrop -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: changing user name
There is also a slightly less hardcore command, usermod, which lets you change login-name, home directory, group, uid, etc, without getting involved with the password file. Eg usermod -l new_user_name -d new_home_dir -m old_user_name HTH Rich Marlon Urias wrote: Thanks for the help!marlon On Thu, 29 Apr 1999, Debian project development discussion wrote: On Thu, Apr 29, 1999 at 05:57:46PM -0700, Marlon Urias wrote: If I get a user who wants to change only their username how do I go about doing a thorough job? Simply changing the passwd entry doesnt seem to be the right thing because then all the files with ownership oldLogin.oldLogin wont be availabe for user newLogin. Thanks for the help. Actually, changing the name in the password file is exactly what you want to do. Everything else in the system is using the user ID number to keep track of who owns what. (The user ID is the third field in the passwd file.) Use the ``vipw'' utility, as it will do the right thing with respect to shadow password files, etc. Also, if a group was created with the same name as the user, you might wish to edit the /etc/group file and change it there as well. Please send Debian-related email to debian-user @ orbits.com. For custom software, see: http://www.SilberSoft.com/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Using Xapps on another Linux system
This is the old xhost problem. You need to type: xhost +ip_address_of_client in an xterm on the X-Server. This is a security issue for the server, so a better, though probably harder in practice, approach would be to set (and export) the 'XAUTHORITY' variable of the client to that of the server. If you are telnet'ting in to your linux box from the workshop, you may be able to do this with the 'environ' option in telnet (but I haven't been able to make this work). HTH Rich Brant Wells wrote: Howdy: I'm looking for some help... I have Netscape installed on my Linux box I need to get it to come up on my other Linux box using the XWindows system (Workshop)--(Linuxbox w/Netscape). I need netscape to run on the Workshop's XServer on display :0.0 (Workshop:0.0)... How can I get it to come up?? When I try, I get the MIT-MagicCookie -1 error Help! Thanks, Brant -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
ftp of complicated directory structure (with tmp simlinks)
I am trying to completely copy a complicated directory structure using ftp. It has four levels of directories, all with lots of branches. I have a root directory on the target machine, and want to create the directory structure, and copy all the files into the right places. I have tried filerunner, which throws its toys out at the first hurdle, refusing to even transfer a single file. I thought lftp's 'mirror' command sounded hopeful, but this didn't want to play either, giving: get: Access failed: 550 directory_name: not a plain file for every directory and subdirectory, and not mirror'ing anything. My nearest thing to a solution involves old-fashioned ftp. I have recreated the directory structure on the target machine down to the penultimate level (where the branching factor ~= 100). I then have a macro thus: mkdir %i cd %i lcd %i mput *.txt// I have to do it this way, cos mkdir only works mput *.wrd// this way. Also mput '*' for all these lines is mput *.wav// apparently an '?Invalid Command' cd .. lcd .. I then open an xterm on the source machine and ls the correct directory, and cut 'n' paste the output in short segments to arguments of the macro. This is not entirely satisfactory (BTW, if I run the macro with more than about 20 args, ftp stops talking to me and segfaults or exits or just generally sulks). I can't redirect the output of ftp's ls command, as it doesn't just list the filenames. So at the moment, I am running my macro about five times for each of the directories in the penultimate level. Anyone have any suggestions? Cheers Rich
Re: Mail folder sharing in Windoze Linux
I use netscape mail in Windows and Linux, with a common mail directory on the windows partition (which is mounted by fstab). This seems to work fine, and has the advantage of having the same MUA on both OS's, although using NS for mail doesn't seem very Linux'y! (OT, similarly, I have a single bookmarks file on both OS's, which is very useful) Probably not the best solution, but it's mine. Rich Shao Zhang wrote: Hi, My sister is a Windoze user. But since I always have linux running, rebooting into windoze is a pain to do. So I am thinking of having a mail folder in FAT, so that my sister can check her mail from both linux and windoze. Well, at least I cannot see any problems with it. If it is possible, could anyone recommand me what mail programs I should use in both windoze and linux? The mail program is better to be a GUI based. I am thinking to use Eudora pine. Is this possible?? Thanks. Shao. -- Shao Zhang - Running Debian 2.1 ___ _ _ Department of Communications/ __| |_ __ _ ___ |_ / |_ __ _ _ _ __ _ University of New South Wales \__ \ ' \/ _` / _ \ / /| ' \/ _` | ' \/ _` | Sydney, Australia |___/_||_\__,_\___/ /___|_||_\__,_|_||_\__, | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |___/ _ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Forcing password change for a user
How about using 'chage'. I think you probably need to play with the -M and -d switches. BTW chage is in the passwd package. HTH Rich Arcady Genkin wrote: George Bonser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry to bug you again, but I am still looking for the password change solution... The .bash_profile solution works, but then if the user changes his default shell from bash to smth else, I won't be able to force password change anymore... Is there any file that gets called every time a user logs in? Irrespective of which shell he is using? I could put there a call for such a script, which would check for existance of .newuser file etc... Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin I opened up my wallet, and it's full of blood... - GsYDE -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: I do a Big permission mistake
Am I being stupid? What about chmod -R u+w .* ? Or probably safer to do chmod u+w .* in individual directories. Are you sure that command below caused this problem? I would have thought that adding others read permissions would have no effect whatsoever on users write permissions. It seems that this problem is more likely to have been caused by eg you editing these files as root and saving them, making them owned by root. HTH Rich Khalid EZZARAOUI wrote: hello, never, never do : chmod -R o+r .* anywhere. (I do it in /home). After doing this as root, I lose a lot of right acces every were for users. user can't use bash, profile dir, libreadline lib . is there a way to solve this ? using apt-get and force to download all my package and to install them again ? (but how?) Thanks. My sys : potato + kernel2.2.5 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: rm /dev/psaux
This should work: cd /dev ./MAKEDEV busmice as root. HTH Rich D Richards wrote: I accidentally removed my /dev/psaux file which controls my mouse. Where do I find out how to replace it. I'm running slink and use a PS2 mouse. Thanks Duane Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Hit by virus !? Help, please...
Wasn't there a 'how to make a machine really secure' thread on this list a little while back (probably around the last time one of these data viruses exploded)? If I remember correctly suggestions started with using 'tripwire' software, progressed through not using any floppies at all, then disconnecting from any network access, and ended up with a linux box encased in concrete in a secret underground bunker with automatic sentries, and switched off. The point is that it is impossible to completely protect your computer from some sort of 'foreign' interference without rendering it useless. Thus the sensible thing to do is to make regular back-ups, and also to have some way of detecting when your integrity has been compromised (excuse the lapse into pseudo-military jargon, I've been watching too many war movies on the news), so that you don't back up corrupted data over older but intact data if you use incremental back-up. Having said all that, I'm absolutely useless at keeping backups, so I'm probably heading for a complete loss of data. Rich Helge Hafting wrote: I'm curious about virii and Linux... Am I wrong to assume that Linux is not immune to virii (I don't even know if virii is a word - but it just sounds cool :) ? Obviously the security features of Linux can prevent some virii from affecting certain files on your system... but what about the boot sector? And what if you happen to be su'd or logged in as root when you get (and heaven forbid) execute an infected program? Viruses activate when infected files or bootsectors are executed. Some dos viruses also take over certain system calls. Viruses can be written for linux, but it haven't happened yet as far as I know. Dos/windows viruses are usually incompatible and can't work with linux, just as dos programs don't run in linux (unless a suitable emulator is used). So a linux-only machine is very safe. It can be vulnerable to booting with a boot-virus infected diskette in the drive, because such a thing may obliterate the harddisk before linux is loaded. These viruses will usually only mess with lilo though, possibly making the machine unbootable but no damaged files. These viruses may install their own int 13 handler (bios disk access) but linux doesn't use that after the kernel is loaded, so it is effectively isolated. dos-Viruses that affect files doesn't understand ext2 or the various linux executable formats, so no danger there. The only way to activate such a virus is by running some dos program in an emulator. The emulator will stop the virus from obliterating the disk (i.e. dos fdisk activities don't work in linux) The virus will only be able to mess with files that the user is allowed to mess with, and it won't find dos/windows executables among those. It can only spread to other dos files. It may crash the dos emulator only, not linux. A dual-boot system is worse. The viruses can do anything when dos/windows is running, but they don't understand ext2. Infection can spread to the boot sector of the linux partition, not the files. Of course the virus may do damage enough by interpreting the ext2 partition as a FAT partition and write to it in this manner. Virus writers don't bother testing for such mistakes. Also, overwriting random disk sectors is a common way to to damage when the virus pull the trigger. If you want a real safe machine, make it linux only. No dos partition, no dos emulator. And set it up so it won't try booting from the floppy drive. (You can always change that back if you ever need to boot a floppy.) Such a machine will be immune until a linux virus is written. And a linux virus wouldn't be able to do much damage other than destroying the user's personal files. Helge Hafting -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Ftechmail query !
I don't think that you can use fetchmail to do exactly what you want, but you may solve your overall problem by doing the following: Run fetchmail as a background deamon with the '-k' for keep option normally. Periodically, perhaps using cron, run fetchmail with the '-F' for flush option. Obviously, you should time this so that it doesn't interfere with your mobile fetchmailing. (this should mean that your debian box gets your mail, but leaves it on the POP server marked as read for you to fetch with the CE thing, untill the '-F' fetchmail is run, which deletes all the read messages from the POP server). Hope this is of some use Rich Nidge Jones wrote: I have been playing around with Fetchmail just recently. And it is working just fine etc. However, I am wondering if it is possible to leave mail on the server for XX amount of days before deleting it. Ie, collect all NEW mail today, but don't delete if off the server for another 2 days time. So when in two days time I connect again, the mail is NOT fetched (old mail) but is deleted. I have a situation where I sometimes access one POP mailbox from a CE box and a mobile phone, but if the Linux box got there first (automated dial ups) then I miss the mail. Thanks in advance -- Nidge Jones -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: system shutdown from xdm
I find that I often need to shutdown as a normal user ('cos I turn my
computer off every night), but rarely need to reboot. Thus I have set
the behavior of the ctrlaltdel keys to shutdown, rather than
reboot. This is done with the following in /etc/inittab:
# What to do when CTRL-ALT-DEL is pressed.
ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t1 -a -h now
(I think that by default you will have the above line, but with '-r'
instead of '-h').
This works for me, but I don't use xdm, so I cannot comment on whether
it traps ctrlaltdel or not. If it does then that is just another
reason why, IMHO, xdm is pants.
HTH
Rich
Dave Whiteley wrote:
In the olden days I worked with a PDP11/44 running Unix. I did not know
a lot about Unix, but I was trusted to shut the system down by logging
is as a special user shutdown.
Now I am playing with my own linux systems, and I want to create a
similar user to give my Wife an easy way to shut down the PC.
I have created the user, and logging in as shutdown from a non-X
console works well. However, now that xdm has been installed I have
problems.
I have made the user shutdown's shell a script which calls the
shutdown command. However xdm does not seem to run this script.
Is the whole idea a bad one? If not, what am I doing wrong.
Dave Whiteley
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Re: adding to PATH
I'm not sure exactly where your path is coming from. However, a couple of points: you need export PATH somewhere to make PATH part of the global environment (not just limited to within the profile script; you can extent the path thus: export PATH=$PATH:addition to end of path or export PATH=addition to beginning of path:$PATH What you set in /etc/profile should (according to the FM) should be read whenever you open a login shell, so maybe you just forgot to export the PATH. The only other place I think this could be set is ~/.profile, so you might want to check that out. HTH Rich Arcady Genkin wrote: Hi all: I'm having a problem adding to a system-wide PATH variable... I've added the following in /etc/profile: PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/local/java/bin However, echo $PATH produces: ./:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin My ~/.bashrc and ~/bash_profile do not contain anything to do with ^^ probably just a typo (should have '.') PATH variable. SO where is the system-wide PATH specified? Also, how do I dynamically add to the PATH variable in bash? Thanks! -- Arcady Genkin I opened up my wallet, and it's full of blood... - GsYDE -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: X Window help!
Try xf86config HTH Rich ying shang wrote: How can I know if I have installed the X-Window Package successfully? When I run XF86Setup, it gave me the following message: bash: XF86Setup: command not found Any idea? -Ying Shang -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: X Window
That is the name of the configuration file: the setup program uses all lowercase letters: xf86config HTH Rich Harold Hartley wrote: Mine is different, I type XF86Config and I get: Bash: XF86Config: Command not found: Harold - Original Message - From: ying shang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Adam Linford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Pietro Francescatti [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Debian users debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Sunday, April 25, 1999 3:28 AM Subject: Re: X Window I have the same problem. When I run XF86Setup, it showed the following: bash: XF86Setup: command not found any idea? Thanks, -Ying Shang On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Adam Linford wrote: -Original Message- From: Pietro Francescatti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Debian users debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: 23 April 1999 09:26 Subject: X Window I installed Debian Linux on a X86 machine. I cannot run X Windows. The answer to the commands startx or xinit is: Unknown command I have installed an X server as well but it doesn't find the display. I .am very new to linux so if you could help me with some very basic instruction I would be grateful. I apologize if this isn't the appropriate mailing list to ask installation problems. Thank you, Have you ran XF86Setup? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Disk geommetry, was Re: Kernel Upgrade: Why?
I think that you are missing a very important point here. A hard disk, unlike, for example, an audio CD-ROM, spins at a fixed angular velocity. Thus the 'linear' speed over the disk surface is faster towards the outside of the disk than towards the centre (as in v=wr). Thus at the very least, it would seem likely that the reading of a large amount of data which was continuous would be quicker from the outside of the disk than from the innner. (This probably represents a larger performance increase with the large web-server than with the average single-user system). That said, I take your point about the seek time depending on the distance that the heads have to move, and it is evident that multihead drives would be expected to improve performance. Rich Jonathan Guthrie wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Ookhoi wrote: Well, there was a discussion here about a benchmark Linux vs NT, and some people here said that the preformance of Linux could have been affected by the fact that Linux was near the center, and NT on the outer side. Probably not the reason. And the data on the outer side passes the heads much faster than the data on the inner side. But then, there is much more data on the outer side, and a piece of data on the outer side will go round in the same amount of time as a piece of data on the inner side.. I am not aware of any disks that use a higher density recording format for the outer tracks than they do for the inner tracks. As far as I am aware (and I really haven't paid much attention to such things since ST-277's were state of the art) the bit density of the outer tracks is LOWER than the bit density of the inner tracks. That's because the outer tracks are physically larger, but they hold the same number of bits. Not that it matters. The whole disk spins as a single unit so even if there were more bits on the outer tracks, you'll still wait the same amount of time (on average) for the sector you want to come around. Read on, and I'll explain. So, is there an advantage if whe put for example swap at the outer side of a disk? NO! Look, the access times for disk are dominated by two times, the time to seek to the correct track and the time to wait for the data to come around again on the disk. The time it takes the data to come around on the disk is, on average, one half of the time it takes for the disk to go around once. That's independant of everything else and is a fairly short time, anyway. The time it takes to seek to the correct track depends upon where you're seeking from and where you're seeking to. Obviously, if the heads happen to be at innermost cylinder, it will take longer to seek to the outermost cylinder than if the heads were in the middle or toward the outside. So, for higher performance in a situation where you're too cheap to add enough RAM, you'll want the swap file near where the heads are likely to be. You can also turn that around. Seeking to the middle from either extreme is likely to be faster than seeking to the other extreme. (This works for both average and worst-case times.) Predicting where the heads are likely to be takes some doing, especially on systems with effective disk caches, but you can take some educated guesses. The middle of a disk is a better guess than either extreme, but isn't necessarily the best guess. If you spend a lot of time reading and writing (especially writing) files from a particular partition, you might want to put the swap file near that partition on the principle that the heads are likely to be near there anyway, so it should reduce the amount of time waiting for any given swap. An extreme example of this would be where you dedicate an entire drive to a (fairly small) swap partition. That's how the news servers I use do it. For something less extreme, I kind of like the recommendation made by OS/2 gurus: Their advice was to put the swap file in the most used partition on the least used drive. You might try something like that where you put the swap partition in the middle of a disk that isn't used for very much. In short, my recommendation for boosting the performance of a computer that uses a significant amount of swap is to add RAM to the computer. HTH. HAND. -- Jonathan Guthrie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Brokersys +281-895-8101 http://www.brokersys.com/ 12703 Veterans Memorial #106, Houston, TX 77014, USA -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Disk geommetry, was Re: Kernel Upgrade: Why?
That is because the data is spread out more towards the edge of a record, entirely because the data rate is fixed (by the need to have the music playing at a constant speed). I have managed to find myself a reference to this in the book 'Computer Organisation and Design' [Patterson/Hennessy]. It suggests that modern iterfaces (SCSI: the book is copyright '94), mean that disks have a constant bit rate per inch, although old disks had a constant number of sectors per head analogous to the record. Thus with a modern HDD, you would get better transfer rate towards the outside of the disk. There are, however, as other posters have mentioned, issues of seek time, which may be more significant for lots of little transfers, and it makes good sense that you don't have partitions which may be alternatively accessed (eg swap and /usr), at very distant radii on the disk. I've decided to just leave my partitioning as it is until I have a lot more time to workout exactly what would be best (which will probably never happen), including seeing which directories get most regular access, and which ones tend to get accessed alternatively. Rich Dan Willard wrote: (I wasn't going to but...) Think of it as a record (ya' know those old odd looking vinyl things). It spins at 33.3 rpm but the sound/music doesn't change from outer to inner. Same deal with hard drives although the outside is 'spinning' faster, it still picks up the same amount of data per rotation as it would near the center. --Dano -Original Message- From: Richard Harran [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 1999 8:35 PM To: Jonathan Guthrie Subject: Re: Disk geommetry, was Re: Kernel Upgrade: Why? I think that you are missing a very important point here. A hard disk, unlike, for example, an audio CD-ROM, spins at a fixed angular velocity. Thus the 'linear' speed over the disk surface is faster towards the outside of the disk than towards the centre (as in v=wr). Thus at the very least, it would seem likely that the reading of a large amount of data which was continuous would be quicker from the outside of the disk than from the innner. (This probably represents a larger performance increase with the large web-server than with the average single-user system). That said, I take your point about the seek time depending on the distance that the heads have to move, and it is evident that multihead drives would be expected to improve performance. Rich Jonathan Guthrie wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 1999, Ookhoi wrote: Well, there was a discussion here about a benchmark Linux vs NT, and some people here said that the preformance of Linux could have been affected by the fact that Linux was near the center, and NT on the outer side. Probably not the reason. And the data on the outer side passes the heads much faster than the data on the inner side. But then, there is much more data on the outer side, and a piece of data on the outer side will go round in the same amount of time as a piece of data on the inner side.. I am not aware of any disks that use a higher density recording format for the outer tracks than they do for the inner tracks. As far as I am aware (and I really haven't paid much attention to such things since ST-277's were state of the art) the bit density of the outer tracks is LOWER than the bit density of the inner tracks. That's because the outer tracks are physically larger, but they hold the same number of bits. Not that it matters. The whole disk spins as a single unit so even if there were more bits on the outer tracks, you'll still wait the same amount of time (on average) for the sector you want to come around. Read on, and I'll explain. So, is there an advantage if whe put for example swap at the outer side of a disk? NO! Look, the access times for disk are dominated by two times, the time to seek to the correct track and the time to wait for the data to come around again on the disk. The time it takes the data to come around on the disk is, on average, one half of the time it takes for the disk to go around once. That's independant of everything else and is a fairly short time, anyway. The time it takes to seek to the correct track depends upon where you're seeking from and where you're seeking to. Obviously, if the heads happen to be at innermost cylinder, it will take longer to seek to the outermost cylinder than if the heads were in the middle or toward the outside. So, for higher performance in a situation where you're too cheap to add enough RAM, you'll want the swap file near where the heads are likely to be. You can also turn that around. Seeking to the middle from either extreme is likely to be faster than seeking to the other extreme. (This works for both
Re: Netscape Resources
I think the directory you should be looking in is /usr/lib/netscape. The 'executable' in the X11 bin directory is just a nice wrapper script. However, on my system at least, there is no netscape.ad there. There is, however a app-defaults.gz in /usr/doc/netscape. Have a look at this, and it tells you how to put stuff in your ~/.Xdefaults for netscape (at top). Maybe the section on 'Fonts in the widgets' is what you want to play with, so I'd do a search for that string in your editor/pager. This file has loads of stuff in it, so it looks like you can do a lot of customisation for Netscape.) HTH Rich Greg Scharrer wrote: Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 21:31:53 -0600 To: Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Greg Scharrer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Netscape Resources In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Looking at the Netscape app-defaults file I see: *fontList: -*-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-*-120-*-*-*-*-iso8859-* I still cannot find the Netscape app-defaults. I looked in the directory with the executable (/usr/bin/X11) and I looked in /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults and /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/app-defaults. No luck. I installed Netscape using dselect. Do I have an app-defaults for Netscape? If you're using xdm you can edit /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers, eg.: :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 100 This technique (and others is well documented in the X Font Deuglification HOWTO: http://www.frii.com/~meldroc/Font-Deuglification.html). The changes outlined there made a *huge* difference for me. I read the HOWTO and it was very useful. My display is a lot less ugly now. Thank you very much. Greg Scharrer -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Potato
You can upgrade the kernel without changing from slink to potato. I asked about upgrading to kernel 2.2.x and recieved the following information from Graham Ashton: quote I've been running 2.2.6 here without any problems on all my boxes. 2.2.4 was also free from problems for me (didn't try 2.2.5). issues with slink are explained here; http://www.uk.debian.org/releases/stable/running-kernel-2.2 I'd do it if I was you. I thought the speedup was noticeable, but I'm running SMP. end quote from Graham Ashton HTH Rich Madel, Kurt wrote: Hello, For those of you using Potato, I was wondering how unstable it is. I have a Zip Plus drive and know that it is naturally supported by the 2.2.X kernel, so would like to move to a 2.2.X distribution as soon as possible and would like to use Debian because I believe in freedom. Thanks Kurt -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Printer Compatability
I have the HP DJ695c, and it works great with linux. I think that it is exactly the same printer as the DJ690c mentioned in the Hardware-HOWTO, just repackaged. The same may apply to the DJ895: you could try asking your vendor. HTH Rich Micha Feigin wrote: I couldn't find the answear to this on the Hardware-HOWTO I am looking for a printer to connect to my linux machine. I was wondering which of these printers (this are whats avainlable) will work with linux without too much of a fuss ( I don't have too much time in the near future to take on too complicated a job). Also If anyone can comment on the quality of any of these. Thanx The relevant options are: Lexmark 3200 and 52__ (I don't have to last 2 numbers right now) Epson stylus 740 and 850 HP 695C, 710C, 720C, 895Cxi _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Kernel Upgrade: Why?
I am currently running kernel 2.0.36 in my slink system. Would there be any advantages to upgrading my kernel? If so what version would be a good (stable) version to which to upgrade? Are there any good reasons not to upgrade? [Very OT]... While I'm asking slightly vague questions: I noticed on the issue of mindcraft finding that NT was a faster web server than Linux, that someone said that whichever of the two OSs that was installed on the outside (ie further radially from the spindle) of the disk would have a 2.5ish times performance advantage. I have win95 and linux partitions on the same disk, and would like my linux performance to be maximised. Would I see a performance increase if I made sure my linux partition was on the outside of my disk? Would I be even better putting my swap partition as far out as possible? If so, which end of the partition table corresponds to to the outside of the disk? Cheers Rich
Re: dependencies
ldd binary-executable list the dynamic libraries which the binary executable requires. A really good tip for finding out what the name of a command is (which I stumbled across in the Debian Users Manual) is: apropos keyword which lists appropriate man page titles with a brief overview. eg: $ apropos library GDBM_File (3pm) - Perl5 access to the gdbm library. dh_shlibdeps (1) - calculate shared library dependancies hdf (5) - Hierarchical Data Format library hosts_access (3) - access control library intro (3)- Introduction to library functions ldd (1) - print shared library dependencies paperdone (3paper) - begin and end using the paper library paperinit (3paper) - begin and end using the paper library resolv+ (8) - enhanced DNS resolver library stdio (3)- standard input/output library functions svgalib (7vga) - a low level graphics library for linux undocumented (3) - undocumented library functions uselib (2) - select shared library (7vga) - a fast framebuffer-level graphics library based ion svgalib and there is ldd. HTH Rich ktb wrote: A few weeks ago someone posted a command that showed the dependencies of a program. I must have inadvertently deleted it and can't find it in the archives. Anyway I would like to know how to reveal what libs a program uses or needs and once I find the libs know how to find the package the libs reside in. How do I do this? Thanks, kent -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: dependencies
In my excitement over just how useful the apropos command is, I forgot to include the following in my previous posting: To find package which owns file: dpkg -S file I guess this may not work if you don't have the package installed yet, which is when it would be most useful. I guess the only way to find which package that you don't have installed would provide a lib is to search the Packages file for that lib. (The package containing a named lib is often obvious from the name of the lib, particularly for the obscure ones which you are less likely to have) HTH Rich ktb wrote: A few weeks ago someone posted a command that showed the dependencies of a program. I must have inadvertently deleted it and can't find it in the archives. Anyway I would like to know how to reveal what libs a program uses or needs and once I find the libs know how to find the package the libs reside in. How do I do this? Thanks, kent -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Netscape libXpm.so.4 error
The glibc2 in the netscape path suggest that it is libc6, no -5. However, libXpm comes from xpm4g, not from libc6. Check that you have this installed. If I'm wrong about the library version, you'll need xpm4.7 from oldlibs as the libc5 equivalent. HTH Rich Brian Morgan wrote: OK, I've been through this at least 2x before, but didn't write it down. I'm getting a can't load library 'libXpm.so.4' error when trying to run my newly installed netscape 4.51. If I remember right, I need to have libc6 installed, but I already checked that. It's installed just fine. Do I perhaps have the libc5 version of netscape installed by mistake? I downloaded it from ftp.netscape.com - pub/communicator/4.51/english/unix/unsupported/linux20_glibc2/complete_insta ll Is there anything I'm forgetting? Sorry to bother everyone again with this question. Brian Morganhttp://brian.greenville.edu Computer Support Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Mobile Systems Support 618.664.2800 ext. 4241 Greenville College IT Dept. 618.338.4963 - pager __ The end of the world is in late Beta ... no, hang on. Bill Gates just bought it . . . we're safe again. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: HELP TO INSTALL DEBIAN FROM CD-ROM
I think that the correct answer to this was posted on this list on the original thread. You need to select the 'Native language support' in the filesystems menu during installation of the base system. I am not sure if this is enough on its own, or if it will then give you the option of adding iso9660 support. If this is not what is causing the problem, I apologise. HTH (let me know either way) Rich Marlon Urias wrote: I had the exact same problem, I've also met several others with the exact same prob but despite seeing this same problem on this mail list about 4 times no one has been able to find the root of the problem. The way I got around it was to manually add the isofs module. Find it (maybe from another linux installation) put it on a floppy or mountable partition, copy into /lib/modules/your kernel/fs/ edit /lib/modules/you kernel/modules.dep, run modprobe isofs and try dselect again. I think maybe there was a buggy image out there that we got our CD from.Good luck marlon On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, michele bigi wrote: Please, I have a PC with a IDE CD ROM. When I install DEBIAN 2.03 the dselect don't read the iso9660 filesystems. The filesystem isn't present on distribution? Can you help me? michele Bigi [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: FW: Netscape libXpm.so.4 error
Don't think that this is going to work: Firstly, when I type: ldd 'which netscape' it says can't open ...; Secondly, if I type $ which netscape /usr/X11R6/bin/netscape $ ldd /usr/X11R6/bin/netscape ldd: /usr/X11R6/bin/netscape is not a.out or ELF This is because netscape installs with a (script) wrapper to deal with opening urls in already running netscape, not running as root, etc. Probably what would give the desired output is the following: $ ldd /usr/lib/netscape/netscape As this is where the debian install puts the netscape binary (at least on my machine) Rich Dan Brosemer wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, Brian Morgan wrote: Bob Nielsen wrote: That's a typical symptom of having a libc5 version of netscape on a libc6 system, however that should be the right directory. Do you have the libc6 package xpm4g (which contains /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4) installed? YES. Installed. I think I may have originally installed the libc5 version. when I realized what I had done, I removed all the netscape directories, and downloaded the libc6 version and installed it. Could there still be traces of the libc5 version in other places? I installed the libc6 version in the same place as the libc5 version (/usr/local/netscape/netscape). Anything I need to uninstall to get rid of libc5 stuff? Try $ ldd `which netscape` and see if it links libc5 or libc6. The netscape binary should be the only thing that determines whether it calls libc5 or libc6, so nothing but netscape to uninstall, just make sure you got rid of it correctly and completely. Best of luck. -Dano -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: OT: sqrt() not recognized in c program??
I think that it would be quite nice if these things were included in the man page, as there is a man page. man sqrt tells you that you need to #include maths.h, but not that you need to link with the maths library. This can be very frustrating for beginners,and would be quite easy to include in man pages. Just MHO. Rich Mark Brown wrote: On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 at 10:00:25PM +0200, Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just checked (and hope to be corrected) but I couldn't find _ANY_ reference to requiring the -lm option to enable math functions. Try KR That's not really part of Debian, though. It *is* documented in the comp.lang.c FAQ, but that isn't packaged. I guess what's being looked for is more like writing something in the appropriate man pages or what have we. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Whoops THANKS
Thanks to everyone who suggested ways to fix my stupid bash problem, and to everyone who didn't call me an idiot for producing it. I fixed it using: su -s alternative shell path Thanks Rich
Re: Xhost probs
Perhaps you want: $xhost +localhost (any user connected to your machine can use the current xsession) The better method is to: #export XAUTHORITY=/home/user_running_X/.Xauthority after su-ing (or add to /root/.bash_profile or whatever) HTH Rich M.C. Vernon wrote: Hi, This is probably a FAQ, but anyway. I'm trying to set things up so that I can run a root Xterm should I need to. The methodology is: xhost root@ su /usr/X11R6/bin/Eterm --icon-name ROOT -n ROOT --scrollbar-right -S red -b red -I /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps/bomb.xpm -e bash Unfortunatly, xhost root@ doesn't work: X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 109 (X_ChangeHosts) Value in failed request: 0xfe Serial number of failed request: 8 Current serial number in output stream: 10 How do I sort this out, please? Thanks, Matthew -- Elen sila lumenn' omentielvo Steward of the Cambridge Tolkien Society Selwyn College Computer Support http://www.cam.ac.uk/CambUniv/Societies/tolkien/ http://pick.sel.cam.ac.uk/ Debian GNU/Hurd - love at first byte -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Problem compiling with g++/libc6
I have a later version of g++ than you:
egcs-2.91.60
also when I ldd on the executable, I get
libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2 = /usr/lib/libstdc++-libc6.0-1.so.2
(0x4000f000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x40053000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4006e000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
ie I get a libstdc++ which you don't have - maybe this is the problem
(the prog 'works' for me).
The only thing I can think of is do you have support for elf binaries
and/or for old a.out style boundaries. I don't know what these mean,
but I know they are (vaugely relavent) options for the kernel. You
could also try getting a newer version of g++.
Whoops- just read the bottom of you message saying you have egcs-2.91
and it works. I don't know why g++ doesn't use it?
Sorry
Rich
Prashanth Mundkur wrote:
Can someone figure this out? The most trivial C++ program
crashes. ( main(){} )
The link between the compiler and libc6 seems fishy.
I have a slink system, with both libstdc++2.8 and
libstdc++2.9.
--
wintermute:test g++ --version
egcs-2.90.27 980315 (egcs-1.0.2 release)
wintermute:test cat /etc/debian_version
2.1
wintermute:test cat a.cc
main()
{
}
wintermute:test g++ -o a a.cc
wintermute:test a
Segmentation fault
wintermute:test ldd a
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x4000b000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x40024000)
ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x400c9000)
--
The debugger points at libc6:
wintermute:test gdb a.out
GNU gdb 4.17.m68k.objc.threads.hwwp.fpu.gnat
Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are
welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions.
Type show copying to see the conditions.
There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details.
This GDB was configured as i486-pc-linux-gnu...
(no debugging symbols found)...
(gdb) break main
Breakpoint 1 at 0x8048537
(gdb) run
Starting program:
/home/mundkur/qtplot/plot-0.00/test/a.out
(no debugging symbols found)...
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x400d291f in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.6
--
But, this works:
wintermute:test egcc --version
egcs-2.91.60
wintermute:testegcc -o a a.cc
wintermute:test a
wintermute:test ldd a
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4001)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)
Any (non-null :-) pointers appreciated.
--prashanth
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Re: Printing in Color
I think that you may wish to use the -Pprinter option in lpr. Note that you may need to edit the stylus_color... filters to make them work properly. See /usr/doc/gs-aladdin/Devices.htm (or equivalent for gs) to find out about the options (good luck: it looks a bit involved). It might be worth just trying what you have, and only trying to understand these options if that doesn't work. HTH Rich Jan Muszynski wrote: How can I get my printer to print in color? I print a page from Netscape and select lpr as the printer. Everything prints fine, but it prints in B/W. Printer is an Epson Stylus 850. Printcap is set up to refer to 3 magicfilters (ie. 3 printers all pointing to same dev): stylus800-filter (this is default) stylus_color_360dpi-filter stylus_color_720dpi-filter I assume I need the above to print in different dpi settings? Any assistance greatly appreciated - TIA == Jan M.- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Fingerprint:397D 093C E802 964E 5316 B90A 93CE 6696 Thought for the day: I have seen the truth and it makes no sense. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Whoops
I did something really stupid: #mv /usr/bash somewhere_else (don't ask). Then I exited root, and (of course) I can't log in as root to fix it. I'm still logged in as a normal user, but anything using a script with /bin/bash or /bin/sh doesn't work. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this. PS I don't think I have a rescue floppy Thanks Slightly Sheepish: Rich
[Fwd: [Re: Whoops] Hurray]
Richard Harran wrote: Got it sorted. Copied the man for su to my home directory and unzipped it and read it. Used -s where-i'd-put-bash option for su. Moved bash back to where it belonged. Vowed to stop mucking about and get on with some work. Still feeling a bit silly: Rich I did something really stupid: #mv /usr/bash somewhere_else (don't ask). Then I exited root, and (of course) I can't log in as root to fix it. I'm still logged in as a normal user, but anything using a script with /bin/bash or /bin/sh doesn't work. Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this. PS I don't think I have a rescue floppy Thanks Slightly Sheepish: Rich -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: OT: sqrt() not recognized in c program??
You need to link to the maths library. Add the -lm option to your linking line eg: gcc program -lm HTH Rich. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does someone know why I would get the following errors in a compilation of a C app? I would think that the sqrt function is in one of the libraries defined in the beginning of the code (e.g. #include math.h ). kaynjay:/home/autodock/dist_3.0/src/autotors# cc -o autotors autotors.c /tmp/ccc01215: In function 'check_aromatic': /tmp/ccc01215(.text+0x1b4f): undefined reference to 'sqrt' /tmp/ccc01215: In function 'main': /tmp/ccc01215(.text+0xa586): undefined reference to 'sqrt' /tmp/ccc01215(.text+0xba83): undefined reference to 'sqrt' The compile dies with these. There are no directions for compiling. I'm following the same pattern given for another program in the distribution. Thanks for any help! Kenward Vaughan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: printer problem not solved anymore
The error indicates that lpd is not running. Have you tried doing the lpr filename !after! having done as root: lpd It looks like lpd has not been started properly. I guess you could try installing lpr again. You could also try looking at the output of kmesg to see if there is a relavent (lpd related) error there. Also try: ls /etc/rc?.d | grep S[0-9]*lpd to see if lpd is being started anywhere (should get at least one 'Snlpd'). If not, reinstalling lpr should sort this out. You could also manually add lpd starting (but this is probably not the easiest thing to do) HTH Rich Mans Joling wrote: Hi I have running into a new problem. Yesterday I uncomment the lastline in dj500-filter and I add a line default cat and so on. Then the printer works fine. Today when I say (as normal user) lpr filename (normal text) lpr: connect:No such file or directory jobs queued, but cannot start deamon. When I do ps -ax I see two processes /usr/sbin/lpd bash: lpd: command not found When I do lpq lp is ready and printing. As root lpd no messages Any idea what is worng Mans Joling -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: file system vfat
What does compiling vfat support into your kernel do for you? I only ask because I don't have it, but I do mount my Windows95 drives under linux, and I seem to be able to use them ok (except for permissions, which I suppose don't exist on them) cheers Rich Alan Tam wrote: Hi, The kernel comes with Debian was not configured with vfat support. During boot time mount is processed before kerneld, therefore you can't mount vfat file systems before kerneld is processed. After login (before login, kerneld is processed) then you can mount the vfats. To have the vfat support at boot time compile your kernel with answers to make config (or make menuconfig | make xconfig) as follows: fat fs support y msdos fs supporty vfat fs supporty nls codepage 437 m nls iso8859-1 m Cheers. Alan Jelmar Andree wrote: hello, when booting I get the message vfat not supported by the kernel. when I'm logged in and do as root mount /dosc there is no problem. I've ofcourse in my fstab mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /dosc etc. how is that possible and what to change so by booting the windows-partities will be mounted? Jelmar -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: file system vfat
I get that now, 'without' vfat. Although I don't have vfat compiled into the kernel, I am mounting my Win drives with the 'vfat' type option (apparently quite sucessfully), which is why I asked the question. Seems a bit strange. Rich David Nelson wrote: For one, vfat let's you see long filenames in Linux. Richard Harran wrote: What does compiling vfat support into your kernel do for you? I only ask because I don't have it, but I do mount my Windows95 drives under linux, and I seem to be able to use them ok (except for permissions, which I suppose don't exist on them) cheers Rich Alan Tam wrote: Hi, The kernel comes with Debian was not configured with vfat support. During boot time mount is processed before kerneld, therefore you can't mount vfat file systems before kerneld is processed. After login (before login, kerneld is processed) then you can mount the vfats. To have the vfat support at boot time compile your kernel with answers to make config (or make menuconfig | make xconfig) as follows: fat fs support y msdos fs supporty vfat fs supporty nls codepage 437 m nls iso8859-1 m Cheers. Alan Jelmar Andree wrote: hello, when booting I get the message vfat not supported by the kernel. when I'm logged in and do as root mount /dosc there is no problem. I've ofcourse in my fstab mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /dosc etc. how is that possible and what to change so by booting the windows-partities will be mounted? Jelmar -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: file system vfat
That's the one: $lsmod vfat4 2 I didn't have vfat as a module in the kernel either, but I guess it doesn't need to be. Thanks Rich Arcady Genkin wrote: Richard Harran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I get that now, 'without' vfat. Although I don't have vfat compiled into the kernel, I am mounting my Win drives with the 'vfat' type option (apparently quite sucessfully), which is why I asked the question. You probably have vfat as a module. When you mount an MSDOS system, what does your lsmod say? -- Arcady Genkin I opened up my wallet, and it's full of blood... - GsYDE -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: printing problem
The problem is coming from the /etc/magicfilter/dj500-filter script. I had a look at mine, and the last line is: default filter /usr/bin/djscript -q which is the command which you don't have. This is for printing normal text files. Above this it suggests using something else if you don't have djscript. I don't have djscript myself, so what I have in /etc/magicfilter/dj550c-filter (which is the script which I use for my printer is: default cat \eE\ek2G\e(0N \eE This works for me (and I guess does exactly cat text /dev/lpx which you previously mentioned was working. I suggest you try commenting out the old 'default' line in your dj500-filter, and replacing it with this. HTH Rich PS. anyone know where to get djscript from, or if it is worth using? Mans Joling wrote: Hi On several questions on my printing problem. When I type lpq it says no entries. echo test test lpr test Notihing happens. But I have looked in lp-errs and the are many lines with the following text /bin/sh: /usr/bin/djscript:No such file or directory /etc/magicfilter/dj500-filter: /usr/bin/djscript -q failed. I think that I missing the file djscript file Or is there something else going on. Any idea Mans Joling -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: What is x11amp?
Playing .mp3 music files (it's very much like winamp but for X) Rich. Armin Wegner wrote: What is the program x11amp good for? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Help! Kernel woes. -- SoundBlaster
This link from Marcus Brinkmann helped me a lot when I did my soundblaster setup: it's nice and easy to follow: http://homepage.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/Marcus.Brinkmann/soundblaster.html (hope he doesn't mind me posting his ref.) HTH Rich Jonathan J. Lupa wrote: Hello! I just went through this fight with my AWE32... there are some docs out there that will really help. For reference: zless /usr/doc/HOWTO/Sound-HOWTO.gz And the big gun: zless /usr/doc/HOWTO/mini/Soundblaster-AWE.gz All the stuff in there about ISA PnP should apply. ( I'm not sure how kernel 2.2 resolves the module loading before PnP devices are configured thing, so this may not apply if you are on a 2.2.* system) The only other pointer that I can give is that in /etc/isapnp.conf should be a default line of (ISOLATE PRESERVE). to get mine to work I had to change that line to (ISOLATE CLEAR) From what I can divine from the documentation, that resets the PnP hardware settings... I'm sure there is someone more knowledgeable than I for that kind of explanation. Of course, YMMV... ~ -Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Programmer -- Creative Solutions Inc. On Thursday, April 15, 1999 5:24 PM, Stephen Pitts [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 1999 at 01:43:29AM -0400, William R Pentney wrote: Did you compile it in kernel or as modules. I also have a SB16, and found that it was a bit unobvious how to configure it in menuconfig... Did you get to the step of specifying the DMA, IRQ etc.etc.? Which driver did you chose? You should have chosen OSS sound modules AND 100% Sound Blastaer compatibles, and only then would you have been revealed the possibility to enter I/O, IRQ etc. Did all of that, and it was set up with correct IRQ and all, but I still couldn't use /dev/audio. It is, as mentioned, a PnP. Should I use the mysterious isapnptools package? Thanks, Bill Yep, that's how I've had to use it. Get the isapnptools package and run pnpdump /etc/isapnp.conf. Then go into isapnp.conf and uncomment the lines specifying the configuration settings that you want. It is a little confusing, so I've included the uncommented portion of my file below. After that run isapnp /etc/isapnp.conf. It should give you some sort of affirmative message. -- Stephen Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] webmaster - http://www.mschess.org File: myisapnp.txt -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: NT vs Linux as web server
I clicked on the link a couple of minutes ago. It still hasn't come up! (ok, so it's probably the network in between, but I thought that was kinda ironic in the Alanis Morissette sense of the word) Sorry for the pointless posting: I'm supposed to be revising! Rich Peter S Galbraith wrote: My IT manager just EMailed me this article (CC'ed to a bunch of Directors, of course): http://www.mindcraft.com/whitepapers/nts4rhlinux.html Microsoft Windows NT Server 4.0 is 2.5 times faster than Linux as a File Server and 3.7 times faster as a Web Server. I'm sure I could dig up opposing reviews. Anyone know of any? Peter -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Problems after rebooting from Win95
I've had this problem for a little while (possibly since I upgraded to slink?), but I've just been ignoring it: When I reboot from win95 - ie choose restart computer from win, then let lilo load up linux (default) - I get nasty segfaults during the restart towards the end eg: /etc/init.d/rc: line 6: 135 Segmentation fault $debug$@ /etc/init.d.rc: line 6: 136 Segmentation fault $debug$@ etc. I log in as root, and do a reboot (cleanly, using shutdown) immediately. Sometime the system comes up fine; sometimes I get the 'not cleanly unmounted' fsck doing its stuff; sometimes I even have to do the manual fsck (which is a bit of a joke, 'cos I just answer 'yes' to everything: how would I know if I want to fix delete inode #123981 which has non-zero dtime or whatever?). This problem only seems to come up after rebooting from windows, and it comes up every time I do that. I have tried shutting down from windows, turning my computer off, then turning it back on with 50% sucess from a 'comprehensive' two sample set. Windows and Linux are on the same disk but separate partitions. The windows partitions are mounted by fstab at start up. Anyone have any ideas (or similar experiences) Cheers Rich
Latex Envelope
Since there seems to be a bit of a document processing theme on the list at the moment, I thought I'd jump on the bandwagon and ask: how do I produce an envelope using Tex/LaTeX (pref. LaTeX) so that it will print correctly. (I had to do this with MS Word by printing at the top in the middle of a page, which was a highly disturbing experience) Thanks Rich
Re: Installing GCC
You need to run dpkg -i gcc_2.91.66-1.deb to install the .deb file. You may get some depends problems. If they are not already installed on your system, you will need: libc6 (I reckon you oughta have this) cpp (eg cpp_2.7.2.3-7.deb from interpreters) binutils (eg binutils_2.9.1.0.19a-2.deb from devel) (note these versions are the ones on my slink system: I think your gcc may be a more recent version). You can find the packages at ftp.debian.org and mirrors HTH Rich Steve Girard wrote: I am trying to install a GCC compiler on to a Linux system. I have downloaded the file, decompressed it, and untarred it, but it now seems that I need to compile the file. How do I compile a compiler w/o a compiler? Or am I looking in the wrong direction. I have gcc_2.91.66-1.deb and gcc-2.8.1. If you could help that would be great. Thanks. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Emacs
Do you mean that you can run emacs in (MS) Windows. If so, could you please tell me where to find the windows version. Cheers Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think my recommendation as far as xemacs vs emacs goes is that, for a new emacs user, xemacs offers that one advantage of GUIs -- little pull down menus that help you use the editor before you learn all the esoteric keystrokes. Once you've taken advantage of that for a bit using xemacs -nw (no windows) on a terminal is just fine. I've never tried to learn vi. I admit, if you just want to create a file of a couple lines in your administration of your box, starting x/emacs may seem like overkill. I always use $ echo whatever needs\nto go here into.the.new.file I think the best part about emacs is that you can run it on windows -- and using it to navigate the file structure, delete, rename, and move files is simply a *joy* (well, compared to being stuck in windows in the first place). My only current complaint about emacs is more a complaint about screen. I'm going nuts not being able to use ^a to get to the beginning of a line. If anyone uses emacs with screen, i'd love a chance to see your .screenrc. Cheerios, judith -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Emacs
Thanks to all. I got the win emacs from the washington ftp site (below), and it seems to work nicely (after I read the README!) Cheers Rich snip Richard Harran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mean that you can run emacs in (MS) Windows. If so, could you please tell me where to find the windows version. Maybe it is a shame to discuss this on a Linux list. However: I have emacs running on Win95. The package that contains the distribution is called NTemacs. The distribution on my computer (containing v.19.34.6, dated september 22, 1997) could be found on the ftp server: ftp://ftp.cs.washington.edu/pub/ntemacs/19.34 snip
Re: How to use Netscape mail w/local mail system?
I've been trying to do this since I first started using debian about 2 years ago. One thing that you can do is to use a ~/.forward file to get your MTA (smail or exim) to move the mail to a directory which NS can use for mail (eg ~/.netscape/Mail) and direct netscape's mail directory to there. This will allow you to use netscape mail simply as a reader. Alternatively, what I do is use netscape mail's POP3 client capabilities and its internal movemail to do everything, and don't use fetchmail at all. The main problem with this is that you don't get system mail notification anymore. If you do get a good answer to this problem, could you please let me know. Cheers Rich Jesse Evans wrote: Folks, I've got Netscape 4.5 installed on my slink system. How do I get Netscape Mail to read from my local mail spool? I use a dial-up connection and have fetchmail set to periodically grab mail from my ISP POP account. This ends up putting mail in my system's /var/spool/mail/my_user_name directory, from which I can access it using mutt, Kmail, or whatever. Most of the mail client programs I've experimented with have an option to be set up for this with no problems (for instance, KMail has a Use Local Mail choice which works just fine), but Netscape doesn't seem to capable of doing this. In PreferencesMail Newsgroups-Mail Servers I've selected Using Movemail-Use Built-in Movemail. When I ask for a new mail check, I get an error message complaining that Netscape cannot write to my mail directory. (It says it needs to write lock files.) It suggests that I set the permission of that directory to 01777 (it's currently -rw-rw), but doing so (it becomes -rw-rw-rwT) does not correct the problem. It also says that an external setgid/setuid Movemail program could be used in the event that all else fails and refers me to the Release Notes for more info. Well, the Release Notes don't cover this and I don't know what might qualify for an external movemail program. Has anyone out there in Debian-land made this feature work? Thanks in advance for all your help. -- 'til next we type... HAVE FUN!! -- Jesse -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: X thinks my screen is larger than it actually is
Which window manager are you using? It must be possible to fix this: you're just bothered by the initial placement of the windows, not with bits of your actual desktop being off the screen, right? If you open the windows from within a menu (I use fvwm95), add 'geometry' switches to the commands in the menu, or if you are launching them from an xterm, create aliases with the geometry switches. Look at the configuration file for your window manager. For example, in my ~/.fvwm95rc (there is also a system-wide /etc/system.fvwm95rc), I have the line: Style * RandomPlacement (althogh I'm not sure exactly what this does!). Note twm allows user placement of new windows, so they go wherever you put 'em. You can also stick default placements in your ~/.Xresources file, eg: emacs*Geometry: 80x65-0-0 Xterm*Geometry: 20x10+0+0 The only problem with this is that a second xterm would start on top of the first. Sorry if this isn't of direct help, but it should give you a few ideas about what to look at (try man X!) Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/8/99 7:32:49 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It depends on what kind of a video card you use. Check out the Linux Laptop homepage http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ For your problem, in your XF86Config, if you have something like 640x480 800x600 Then by default XFree86 will use the 640x480 mode and your virtual screen will be set to 800x600. That is why you are getting a larger screen than you expected. Try to use ctrl-alt-+ to see if you can switch to 800x600. Of course if you are using the wrong server, it won't work... Thanks for this response, but it doesn't apply in my case. I don't have a virtual screen set up, the only resolution mention in my file is 640x480. The laptop pages don't help - frankly because it isn't an issue with laptops - it's an X server problem. I get the same results using a desktop. The Xservers (or window managers) simply don't stay within the confines of 640x480 resolution - and they should. If I maximize a window, it puts it in the full 640x480 window - so why does X/window-managers put these windows off the screen when the are first painted? That's just sloppy.. I know in most cases I can reposition them, but I shouldn't have to. If I only have 480 pixels high, why does a window pop up that goes beyond this limit? -Jay -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: adding a module to a kernel
I think that if you use make menuconfig or make xconfig, it 'remembers' what you had the last time you ran it. Thus you only have to set the options that you want to change. HTH Rich Pollywog wrote: If I need to add a module, can I do so without having to answer ALL the 'make config' stuff again; can I simply edit /usr/src/linux/.config to add the desired module and then perform all the other steps (make bzdisk, make modules, lilo, etc)? thanks -- Andrew [PGP5.0 Key ID 0x5EE61C37] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Doh! Hosed my printer config
Firstly, do you know what netscape uses to print. Eg, when I press print in NS, the dialogue box says: Print Command: lpr Also, what are you using to filter? I use magicfilter, 'cos it does everything for you. If you use this, make sure you have run magicfilterconfig and this sets up a good working printcap file. If you are not using magicfilter, you need :if=/etc/your_filter_file in /etc/printcap under your lp printer def'n, and something along the lines of /usr/bin/gs -q -dSAFER -sDEVICE=laserjet -dNOPAUSE -sOutputFile=- - in your_filter_file. I think that it is normal for NS to dump ps output at your printer program, and for that to use gs to drive your printer. I would recommend using magicfilter to do the filtering. HTH Rich Chris Mayes wrote: Well, since apt-get has been very zealous with its interdependency upgrades, I seem to have hosed my printer configuration somewhere along the way. See, when I try to print a page using Netscape, it dumps postscript at my printer. Nasty! I don't think the problem is in my printcap, unless the ljet4m module assumes that the printer understands PostScript... I am using an HP LaserJet 1100, BTW. So, what other configurations/programs/etc should I check for problems? To be honest, I am not sure that I tested printing from netscape before the upgrades (the install's less than a week old). Suggestions would be much obliged :-) Thanks! -Chris -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Making fortunes
I have some random rude comments which I want to display at login. I am trying to use the fortunes-mod package to achieve this, but am having difficulty transforming the (plain text) file that contains the comments into something suitable for the fortune program. I tried putting a '%' (percentage - in case that symbol doesn't travel) on each blank line between each comment, then running strfile filename which gave the following (discouraging) output: filename.dat created There was 1 string Longest string: 41927 bytes Shortest string: 41927 bytes I also tried: /usr/games/fortune filename.dat expecting it to just dump the whole file, but instead got fortune:filename.dat not a fortune file or directory Could someone please point me in the right direction to create a fortune file from my own gibberish. Cheers Rich ps I did rtfm for fortune and for strfile, and am non the wiser.
Re: Making fortunes
Thanks: it's working now, but I'm not quite sure how. I copied the first few fortunes into another file, and ran strfile on that and it worked. I then added the other fortunes in chunks to the new file, re-running strfile each time (I was hoping to narrow down where the problem was). However, I couldn't find the problem, it just worked: I guess I must have changed something unwittingly, but as long as it works ... Thanks again Rich Mark Brown wrote: On Thu, Apr 08, 1999 at 07:19:09PM +, Richard Harran wrote: into something suitable for the fortune program. I tried putting a '%' (percentage - in case that symbol doesn't travel) on each blank line between each comment, then running It must be a % and only a % - no trailing spaces. For example (assuming this makes it through the mail OK): % Computers are useless --- they can only give you answers -- Pablo Picasso % Don't give all your baskets to one egghead. -- Arthur C. Clarke % If you have other characters on the line, strfile won't be happy. strfile filename which gave the following (discouraging) output: filename.dat created There was 1 string Longest string: 41927 bytes Shortest string: 41927 bytes That's the correct procudure - check the format of your file. I also tried: /usr/games/fortune filename.dat expecting it to just dump the whole file, but instead got fortune:filename.dat not a fortune file or directory Could someone please point me in the right direction to create a fortune file from my own gibberish. Point fortune at the cookie file, not the index. -- Mark Brown mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trying to avoid grumpiness) http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~broonie/ EUFShttp://www.eusa.ed.ac.uk/societies/filmsoc/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
[Fwd: Re: Xauth, how to get rid of it?]
Sorry, I didn't CC the group. Here is my reply to 'Pollywog': I think what you need to do is type: export XAUTHORITY=/home/user_running_X/.Xauthority after you have su'ed. You can also add this to your root/.bashrc, if the only time you use X as superuser is from inside an X-session run by that user. HTH Rich Pollywog wrote: I get those annoying MAGIC COOKIE warnings when I su from a regular user and this even happens when I use vim after 'su'. I am still able to edit stuff, and the only problem is when I need to run some X program as superuser. I saw somewhere how to deal with this Xauth stuff, but I don't remember where. -- Andrew [PGP5.0 Key ID 0x5EE61C37] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: X busted after 2.0 - 2.1 upgrade
I'm not sure about this, but perhaps you should remove, rather than purge, the xbase package. This is what I did, and I did not get this problem. The difference between purging and removing is that removing leaves configuration files alone, so perhaps purging xbase removes config files necessary to run startx?? This is just a guess. Rich Anthony Campbell wrote: On 06 Apr 1999q, Raymond A. Ingles wrote: I upgraded (at least, with CD 1) from 2.0 - 2.1 last night, and everything seemed to be fine. I quit dselect, fired up X, and while running X, looked at some notes I had made preparing for the upgrade. I purged xbase, since it's been claimed that it's no longer needed. Everything still ran fine. I powered things off for the night and went to bed. I got up this morning, powered up, logged on, and then: --- $ startx _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect: Can't connect: errno = 2 giving up. xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. --- What the heck? Did I jump the gun on removing xbase? Any idea what's up, or how to find what's up? Now that you say this, I realize I had just the same experience (twice, in fact, on different machines). Something wrong with the install advice, I think. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - running Linux Debian 2.1 Book Reviews: www.achc.demon.co.uk/bookreviews/ The Moving Finger writes; and, having writ, Moves on... - Edward Fitzgerald (Rubaiat of Omar Khayyam) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Xauth, how to get rid of it?
Do you mean that you are trying to start a second X session while the first is still running, or are you having difficulty starting for a second time having exited the first session? If it is the first (and you get an error like: server is already active for display :0, or something) you can fix it with startx -- :1 to start the second X server on display 1. This will probably associate it with ctrlaltF8. If it is the second, I think you have a problem (X not exiting properly?) 'cos I don't think that should happen. HTH Rich David B.Teague wrote: On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, George Bonser wrote in response to Steve Lamb, on 6 Apr 1999: Subject: Re: Xauth, how to get rid of it? Steve, you do not want to get rid of xauth ... exactly what problem are you having? I have a slightly different problem: The presence of Xauth prevents me from starting X (via startx) the SECOND time. I just rm it after each X session. There Has To Be A Better Solution applies here as well as to a ubiquitous PC operating system we love to hate. How do I fix this? David Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian GNU/Linux Because software stability should be expected. -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Subject says all. Trying to get apps to display on remote machines. I can do it fine to my Winbox, but that is because it isn't using Xauth. - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBNwr57Xpf7K2LbpnFEQLcMgCgtRnThlRuwhmdKcU4LSA/CItp40EAoILo exIASDQGEGB0av4ZpF1Ftx28 =Vsyj -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null George Bonser Support The THING -- http://shorelink.com/~grep/THING.html -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
See bug #274960375892 filed against 'car'. Stefan Nobis wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish Wrong solution. Users should not have to adapt to technology Hamish (within reason); the technology should allow users to send Hamish huge email attachments if they need to. Otherwise it should be Hamish fixed. One last point: If i drive a car, i have to stop at a red traffic light. Is a car bad technology? No piece of technology is able to get you rid of thinking. And your personal freedom ends exactly at the point where the freedom of others is cut down. The problem of (huge) attachments or huge mails in general is, that the recipient often never asked to get it, but the sender sended it without being asked to do. If i ask you to send me some big file than there is no technical problem to do so. But if you find a great picture, about 2MB and you think everyone has to see it and so you send it to one mailinglist or another, than there are no technical problems -- than your are the problem. -- Until the next mail..., Stefan. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Can't connect to display :0?
This is X-security mechanism - Magic Cookies. By default, only the person who started the X session can connect to the server. I'm guessing that you started X as a user then su'ed to root in an xterm, or that you started X as root, and then the script runs as a different user. There are two ways to allow access to an X-server: 1) xhost. See man xhost. As an example, 'xhost +localhost' will allow anyone connected to your machine to connect to the server. This method is not recommended, as it is a big security issue. There should be more about this is the FAQs 'cos there was quite a lot on this list a couple of months ago. (2) is better: 2) If you just want root to be able to connect to the server, su to root in an xterm, then type: export XAUTHORITY=/home/user/.Xauthority If you always want to use this with the same user (eg if you have a single-user machine, you can add this to (eg) the /root/bashrc or /root/bash_profile files, but you won't then be able to actually start X as root. HTH Rich Lance Hoffmeyer wrote: I was trying to run a setup program in X. I logged in as su and ran the script. This was the error message. The Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server error is the same message I get when I try to run rvplayer. What does the error mean and how do I fix it? Spawning X setup utility for Chklogs package Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key Application initialization failed: couldn't connect to display :0 Error in startup script: invalid command name wm Lance -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Netscape Installer??
As I understand it, Netscape have changed their licencing rules, to the effect that Debian can now distribute Netscape binaries. Thus you no longer have to get the binary from netscape and then use the installer, you just need the correct packages. I think the packages you want are: netscape-base-4 and netscape-base-4? (depending on version). If you want to use the tarball + installer, the installer is still in stable (under contrib/web, not non-free/web) as: netscape3_version.deb or netscape3_version.deb depending on which tarball you have. HTH Rich Ian Keith Setford wrote: I'd like to re-install Netscape but I can no longer find the Debian installer script/package. Where did it go? What are all the other packages, now in Slink, that mention Netscape? I just want something to do what the older installer did: 1) Extract the .tar.gz from /tmp 2) Install in proper place. 3) Update the menu. Does nothing like this exist anymore or have I not found the right package? TIA. -Ian __ Ian Setford [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP = F2 92 50 E3 CD D7 A2 D9 C4 CE 08 A6 98 E0 0F 58 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Printer Troubles
You need to start up the printer daemon. Only a priveleged user can do this so try: $su (enter your root password) #lpd #exit Then try and print the file again. Normally, you should get the lpd daemon started automatically at start-up, so you may well get an error message when you try this. Hopefully it will be helpful. HTH Rich Jason Dawe wrote: I was actually going to check the message archive this time, but I'm sitting here at a Netscape status bar telling me Connect: Contacting Host www.debian.org... endlessly. Anyway, I can't even get my printer to print a simple text file. It is a Panasonic KX-P4430. I checked the basic stuff like making sure it was online and that the cables were properly connected. I have installed GhostScript, magicfilter, and lpr. If it matters, here is my /etc/printcap: lp|ps4430|Panasonic KX-P4430:\ :lp=/dev/lp:sd=/var/spool/lpd/ps4430:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/ps400-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: Here are the messages I received trying to print a simple text file that just says testing inside of it: bash-2.01$ lpr test lpr: connect: Connection refused jobs queued, but cannot start daemon. bash-2.01$ lpq waiting for lp to become ready (off-line ?) Rank Owner Job Files Total Size 1stroot 0test 4 bytes 2ndroot 1test 4 bytes 3rdroot 2test 4 bytes 4throot 3test 7 bytes 5thjason 4test 7 bytes 6thjason 6test 7 bytes 7thjason 7test 7 bytes bash-2.01$ I think I have included all the info that I should... Thanks in advance --Jason ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: What DO you lose with Linux ???
In my opinion, the two things that you really do lose with linux are: Flashy new games (clearly very important) Hardware manufacturers support (but you do get support from linux developers) I guess the best solution to the first problem is to get a Sony Playstation, which is most suitable for this (but I can't do that myself, or I'd never get any work done!). The second problem probably means you can't take full advantage of the very newest hardware (in terms of flash graphics card, USB stuff, etc), straight away (unless it is compatible with older HW), but who can afford to buy all these new toys anyway? As for music composition (this seems like a bit of a minority interest to me, unless the auther is refering to basic midi programs which are in the Debian distribution), there is stuff like this available (particularly for those willing to pay. http://www.xnet.com/~blatura/linapp5.html#music has some stuff listed. Some accounting and personal finance stuff is also listed on the same site at: http://www.xnet.com/~blatura/linapp3.html#pers It seems to me that the author has listed an obscure application which may not be very well provided in linux, and another one that probably is, and has used this to give the impression that there is hardly any useful software available. It is true that p'n'p is a bit dubious under linux, but I think it is a complete fiction under Win95 (or they changed the definition at the last minute- there is certainly no hot-switching of devices). Linux kernel 2.0.nn doesn't do p'n'p, but it can easily (-note slighty unusual usage of word!) be loaded as a module. I think later kernels were supposed to be getting pnp built in, but I'm not sure. For OCR, the only thing I saw was a commercial thing called ocrshop http://www.vividata.com/ocrshop.html, but that seems to cost a lot. In general, there is a lot of stuff available for linux, most of it free (especially for home users). It is easy for someone who is thinking of switching to find out if they need something which is not linux compatible. If they have a lot of time on their hands, are good with computers and have a generous and sunny disposition, they might develop something themself (after all, that's where a lot of the linux stuff has come from). Otherwise they can dual boot, or try one of the emulators. Just my opinions Rich (Ted Harding) wrote: Apologies for duplicate postings, but I'd like to make sure I sound a diverse population. Today' London Sunday Times feature Innovation (pp 10-11 of News Review, http://www.sunday-times.co.uk ) has an article by David Hewson (of Linux, the Program from Hell fame) entitled Linux wins backing of computing giants. His attitude to Linux is much more moderate than it was: the article is basically balanced and fair, including some sound negative comment. However, he states: Behind the hype there is precious little sign of Linux becoming a serious, versatile desktop OS. If all you need is a browser to get through the day, it's fine. But if I boot the PC I am using right now into any kind of Unix the list of stuff I lose -- music composition, accounting and personal finance to name but a few -- is endless because the applications just aren't there. On top of that, Linux is difficult to set up, fails to understand the difference between a desktop PC and a notebook, and lacks any kind of plug and play facility. I'm sure the last sentence is simply wrong in point of fact. If, in the previous sentence, he'd given a longer list of stuff I lose one might be in a better position to respond constructively. However, can I ask people what they would use for music composition, accounting and personal finance? I'm aware of good programs for creating musical scores which can also generate MIDI output, but I'd hardly call them top-flight composition tools; and it does seem that the accounting/finance area is thinly served. He didn't mention OCR (optical character rcognition) either. Where is the OCR program for Linux that works? Now that vmware is out ( http://www.vmware.com ) people who want to can run Windows applications on top of Linux without, it seems, losing much or indeed anything, so this could be the basis of another line of reply to Hewson's article: he can start up Linux and the list of stuff I lose would be empty because it would all still be there! Comments, info, contributions, anyone? Best wishes to all, Ted. E-Mail: (Ted Harding) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 28-Mar-99 Time: 12:49:27 -- XFMail -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: X-window client?
whoops, messed up the first posting. Also missed the Exceed free evaluation url: http://www2.hcl.com/html/forms/nc/exceed/request.html like I say, I don't know what strings are attached to this Rich Richard Harran wrote: There is Exceed. It's commercial, but you can order a free evaluation cd. I don't know in what way this is limited, but it might be worth giving it a go. I have used exceed before, and it is very good. Rich Adam Lazur wrote: George Bonser ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) said: On Sun, 28 Mar 1999, David Bartholow wrote: I need to get to my debian 5.2 system from my There is no such thing as Debian-5.2 heh, he may mean RedCra^H^H^HHat... Windows NT workstation. Is there a free x-windows client for windows that anyone knows of? Not that I know of. The closest you can come is VNC. There is MI/X I believe, I've never used it, but it's worth a try... check out http://www.microimages.com/www/html/freestuf/mix/ .adam -- Adam Lazur - Computer Engineering Undergrad - Lehigh University icq# 3354423 - http://www.lehigh.edu/~ajl4 [ Protect privacy, boycott Intel: http://www.bigbrotherinside.org ] being able to break security doesn't make you a hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive engineer -ESR -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Can't get sound module installed
Just posting to thank everyone who helped me to sort this out. My problem was that I hadn't selected all the necessary options in the sound section of the config. I also needed to create the audio device files with: cd /dev ./MAKEDEV audio Thanks again Rich Graham Ashton wrote: On Friday 26 March, Richard Harran wrote: Could someone please tell me either what I might be doing wrong, or how I could do the 'configure the sound driver with CONFIG_AUDIO option' thing. have you done either make config, make menuconfig or make xconfig before the make dep; make clean ? if not, that's your problem. you need to configure the kernel first so that make knows which bits you want to build in. otherwise you won't be getting a kernel that's customised to your hardware - you'll be getting the default, which doesn't include audio support. make menuconfig and make xconfig are nicer than make config, but they all do the same job. read the documentation in the Documentation subdirectory of the kernel source. I think there's a HOWTO on kernel compilation too - you'll find it at http://metalab.unc.edu/LDP/ -- Graham -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Can't get sound module installed
I have had to reinstall debian on my system, and am having trouble with the sound module. I have a sb awe63 pnp card. I've run the install script from the awedrv package, configured the kernel (make menuconfig), amd run make dep; make clean however, when I try make modules I get the following error: sb_common.c:21:#error You will need to configure the sound driver with CONFIG_AUDIO option and make exits. The module sound.o is not installed in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc, so I can't load it up. Could someone please tell me either what I might be doing wrong, or how I could do the 'configure the sound driver with CONFIG_AUDIO option' thing. Thanks Rich
Re: Can't get sound module installed
OK, I replying to myself. I didn't select /dev/dsp as one of the sound options in the kernel. Now I've sorted this, I still have a problem: I can't use /dev/dsp, because it doesn't exist. What should have created this, and how do I fix it? Thanks Rich Richard Harran wrote: I have had to reinstall debian on my system, and am having trouble with the sound module. I have a sb awe63 pnp card. I've run the install script from the awedrv package, configured the kernel (make menuconfig), amd run make dep; make clean however, when I try make modules I get the following error: sb_common.c:21:#error You will need to configure the sound driver with CONFIG_AUDIO option and make exits. The module sound.o is not installed in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc, so I can't load it up. Could someone please tell me either what I might be doing wrong, or how I could do the 'configure the sound driver with CONFIG_AUDIO option' thing. Thanks Rich
Re: Can't get sound module installed
Great. Thanks a lot: this pointed me in the right direction. I couldn't actually run MAKEDEV dsp, but I had a look at MAKEDEV, and found MAKEDEV audio worked ok. I've got the default permissions, and added myself to audio group using adduser username audio as root, and this worked fine. Cheers Rich Graham Ashton wrote: On Friday 26 March, Richard Harran wrote: OK, I replying to myself. I didn't select /dev/dsp as one of the sound options in the kernel. Now I've sorted this, I still have a problem: I can't use /dev/dsp, because it doesn't exist. What should have created this, and how do I fix it? cool. try this; cd /dev ./MAKEDEV dsp mine looks like this; humbug% ll /dev/dsp crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 3 Jul 21 1998 /dev/dsp I think the default permissions are crw-rw, but I couldn't access it as a user that way (and putting me in the audio group didn't work). anybody got any ideas why that is? -- Graham -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Debian Menu and Fvwm2--help!
You can use the ~/.fvwm2/menudefs.hook menus to override the system-wide ones. What you also need to do is to provide a ~/.fvwm2rc user config. file. Do this by copying the /etc/X11/fvwm2/system.fvwm2rc file to ~/.fvwm2rc. You then need to edit out the line: Read /etc/X11/fvwm2/menudefs.hook HTH Rich Disclaimer: I'm using fvwm95, and assuming that the configuration is similar. You should be able to use this at least as a starting-point. Curt Daugaard wrote: Is there a way to get a menudefs.hook in the user directories to override what's in the system menudefs.hook for fvwm2? I have parameters I need to pass to programs on the menu, but they keep getting blown away by some auto update of the menus. And any config I put in the user directory (.fvwm2/ menudefs.hook) just duplicates the entry on the menu. What am I missing? Thanks. Curt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Hello
For the backspace key: try adding keycode 0x16=BackSpace to your /etc/X11/Xmodmap file. For Netscape: The icon colour just doesn't work properly at 24 bit colour. It isn't much of a problem, it just means Netscape looks a bit funny, and I think that it is fine at 8,16 or 32 bit colour. HTH Rich Pat Neumann wrote: Hello All I am still quite new to X and Linux. I have a couple of questions which I require help with. I installed a package for netscape and after I installed it my mouse pointer under X is now a large block, about 2, 2 in size. I have been unable to figure out how to restore it to normal size and shape. Also when x sets its self up the back space key and del keys do not work the way I am useto. How should I correct this. Has anyone else had problems with Netscape and the coloron the task bar. On 8 bit color depth it is fine but under 24 it goes black and white. It is kind of strange. Even upgrading to Slink Dis did not solve the above problems. Thanks for any help Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: C question
Try the comp.lang.c newsgroup for C questions. For creating directories, try #include sys/stat.h int mkdir(const char *path, mode_t mode); For removing directories, #include unistd.h int rmdir(const char *path); Also see man 3 ... opendir closedir telldir seekdir all of which use dirent.h Also: #include unistd.h int chdir(const char *path);/* to change to a directory */ char *getcwd(char* buffer, size_t size); /* to get current dir */ hth Rich also look at man 3 opendir richard wrote: I know this is the wrong place to ask, so I've got two questions now. What is a good unix/C newsgroup? I think I'm gonna need some help. Now my real question. I've got a perl script that checks the permissions and creates directories. Now I want to rewrite the script in C. I know nothing about checking permissions nor creating directories with C. I don't even know if it's possible, so if someone does know how to do this or a place that might describe the proceedure I would appreciate the assistance. thanks -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Slink upgrade and xwindows
After reading this thread, I've removed xbase and (unwanted) xdm (I'll own up, I didn't rtfm, and it caused me a problem upgrading hamm-slink). However, I dpkg warnings: while removeing xdm, directory /var/state/xdm not empty so no removed, and the same for /etc/X11/xdm. Is it ok for me to manually remove these directories and their contents, or will I break something? Thanks in advance, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *- On 14 Mar, George Bonser wrote about Re: Slink upgrade and xwindows On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: xdm was installed on your system before. It was part of the old xbase package. The reason xdm was sucked in during the upgrade was that because xbase was split into several different packages it was impossible to determine which components of it were being used before the upgrade. So all components that were part of xbase were Required The trouble is that if I try to remove xdm in dselect, it tries to remove xbase as well. I think xdm should maybe depend on xbase but I really don't think it should be the other way around. I understand why this might have been done ... the tradeoff being that there would be more complaints if XDM went away than if it suddenly appeared but I wish I could get rid of it without making dselect scream about xbase all the time. Go ahead and remove xbase. As the package description for xbase says: Description: XFree86 upgrade convenience package Between Debian 2.0 (hamm) and 2.1 (slink) the XFree86 packages were extensively reorganized; this package exists solely to smooth the transition for people upgrading from Debian 2.0 or earlier. . Once this package has been installed it may be removed at any time; it contains no programs, libraries, or documentation. . -- Brian - Never criticize anybody until you have walked a mile in their shoes, because by that time you will be a mile away and have their shoes. - unknown Mechanical Engineering[EMAIL PROTECTED] Purdue University http://www.ecn.purdue.edu/~servis - -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
printcap, filtering, etc
I decided to get that HP Deskjet 695c, and I think it should work ok, 'cos the windows drivers that came with it were the ones for the 690. I am having a bit of trouble setting up printcap properly. Could someone who uses the cdj500 gs filters please tell me what to put in /etc/printcap, and associated filter. I have been able to get some things to come out of the printer, but the formatting is funny, and only one line of text is printed. Thanks Rich
Re: printcap, filtering, etc
Ok, I'm replying to my own post. I installed magicfilter, and set it up for dj500c. This then worked for everything except plain text. I changed the 'default' line at the bottom of /etc/magicfilter/dj500c-filter from 'filter /usr/bin/djscript -q' to 'filter /etc/filter.pcl' and everything was rosy. The one thing I would still like to know, is how to change the font size for plain text. Ideally, I would like to get two pages onto one (sideways). Another thing I was wondering about is that the /etc/magicfilter/dj500c-filter' file has the comment: # Magic filter setup file for HP DeskJet 500 series color # printers with only CMY cartridge installed. and my printer has black CMY cartridges. Is the filter using the colour cartridge to make black, and if so, how do I fix this? Thanks Rich Richard Harran wrote: I decided to get that HP Deskjet 695c, and I think it should work ok, 'cos the windows drivers that came with it were the ones for the 690. I am having a bit of trouble setting up printcap properly. Could someone who uses the cdj500 gs filters please tell me what to put in /etc/printcap, and associated filter. I have been able to get some things to come out of the printer, but the formatting is funny, and only one line of text is printed. Thanks Rich -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: printcap, filtering, etc
Cheers Got it going, and you answered one of the qu's in my next post. Thanks a lot Rich Conrado Badenas wrote: Richard Harran wrote: am having a bit of trouble setting up printcap properly. Could someone who uses the cdj500 gs filters please tell me what to put in /etc/printcap, and associated filter. I have been able to get some The easiest way is to install magicfilter package, and then run as root /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig. It will create a /etc/printcap for your printer provided there is a filter for your printer. In case there isn't, then you'll have to create another one. The easiest way is to modify for your printer an existing filter for a printer similar to yours. For example: I have a HP Deskjet 670c (two ink cartridges: black and color, 600 dpi resolution), but magicfilter package doesn't have a filter for my printer, and the closest printer with a filter file is HP Deskjet 550c (two ink cartridges: black and color, 300 dpi resolution). Thus ... # cd /etc/magicfilter # less dj550c-filter # man gs(to understand the options, specially the -r) # man dvips (idem, but now look at the -D option) # cp dj550c-filter dj670c-filter # joe dj670c-filter change the -r300 for -r600 in all the gs lines, and the -D 300 for -D 600 in the dvips line; save the modified file # magicfilterconfig --force answer that I have a HP Deskjet 670c (hpdj670c) in /dev/lp0, that my filter is dj670c (it appears in the list of filters and five minutes ago it didn't exist), and the my /etc/printcap looks like this: # This file was generated by /usr/sbin/magicfilterconfig. # lp|dj|hpdj670c|HP Deskjet 670c:\ :lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hpdj670c:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#72:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/etc/magicfilter/dj670c-filter:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: Note: I say my printer is in /dev/lp0 because I have kernel 2.2.1. For older versions of kernel the device was /dev/lp1 -- Conrado Badenas (Assistant Lecturer) Department of Thermodynamics. University of Valencia c/. Doctor Moliner, 50 | e-m: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 46100 Burjassot (Valencia) | Phn: +34-63864350 SPAIN| Fax: +34-63983385 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
HP deskjet 695c
I have been recommended this printer (HP dj 695c). However, the vendor does not know about linux support. He claims that it is the same printer as the 690C (which is listed as supported ing the linux hardware howto), just with a restyled casing. Does anyone know if this printer will work with debian? Cheers Rich
Packages for icons
I have just upgraded from Hamm to slink. Mostly, everything seems to be ok, but I have lost some icons. I use fvwm95, and have got a completely customised menu, with lots of mini-whatever.xpm icons on. These were in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/pixmaps, but some of them have gone, and my menus look rubbish (pout). Could anyone suggest how I could find out where specific icons came from, so that I can replace them (and put them somewhere where they won't get upgraded away). Examples include: mini-folder.xpm mini-cat.xpm mini-sound.xpm mini-hdisk.xpm etc. I know it's a bit pointless and self indulgent, but I like my icons in the menus! Cheers Rich
Re: Backgrounds in X/fvwm2
I think you can use something like: xsetroot -bitmap filename There may also be a specific fvwm command. Rich Alec Smith wrote: I know I can use xsetroot to set a solid background color in X under fvwm2. However, I'd like to use a bitmap background I have saved as an .xpm file. How would I go about doing this? TIA -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Vote Linus for Person of the Century
True, it could be argued that all this did stem from Edison, but there have been a lot of other 'great' people inbetween. I don't think that Edison had any great concept of semiconductors, etc. However, I do agree that there are a lot of people who have had a much greater effect on this century than Linus - we've had two World Wars this century, and survived. I suspect that most people who are involved in this vote aren't going to remember anything much before Elvis! Rich George Bonser wrote: On Sat, 6 Mar 1999, Richard Lyon wrote: Nope I don't think I will vote for any person on the basis of scientific or technical merit. A more global view is required. I was thinking more along cultural lines. If you look at the differences between 19th century culture and life and that of the 20th century, I think Edison's experiments are the difference. Forget the lightbulb, think headlights ... movies, mp3, the entire entertainment industry (except for theatre) of today and how that impacts our culture. It is who we are. Without thermionic emission (the Edison effect) you would not have that CRT you are staring at, a radio, an amplifier. All of these things contribute to the daily life of all citizens in the developed and developing world to a greater or lesser extent. I can think of no single individual that had as great an impact on the daily life of the entire world. Whatever we were to become in the 20th century, we would get there in the company of Edison. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: fetchmail
I don't think -k on its own is what you're looking for. This keeps messages on the remote server, but marks them as read. However, it may be of some use in conjunction with the -a (fetchall) option. This makes fetchmail fetch all messages, including those marked as read. HTH Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: Re: fetchmail Date: Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 10:28:33PM +1100 In reply to:Shao Zhang Quoting Shao Zhang([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Sorry, I did not describe what I want very clear. What I need is to leave them as Unread on the pop3 server. I retrieve them from pop3 at work, I want those mails still set to unread when I retrieve them for the second time, I still know what are the new messages I checked earlier at work. I guess I am trying to get it working more similar to an IMAP server. thx man fetchmail says -k -- Real programmers don't write in FORTRAN. FORTRAN is for pipe stress freaks and crystallography weenies. FORTRAN is for wimp engineers who wear white socks. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Vote Linus for Person of the Century
Oh, goodie! A religious discussion! Kent West wrote: At 04:13 PM 3/5/1999 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Traas schrieb: Hey, Linus Torvalds isn't even in the top 20! Let's change that! ;-) Time Magazine is allowing us to vote for Time Magazines Person of the Century, which will be in their December 1999 issue. To vote go to: http://www.pathfinder.com/time/time100/toppersonmain.html just did, but is this list not moderated, Jesus Christ is so far I now, from a different century and he is on top? No, he only walked on this earth in a different century. But he's not from a different century. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Problem with Netscape browser!
Netscape 3 may be old, but it works fine. I believe it may also be smaller and possibly even faster than 4 on an older machine. Apart from the use of old libs, I can't think of any good reason to upgrade, although I'm quite willing to listen if anyone thinks otherwise. Just my opinion (I'm running NS 3.04 btw). Rich (PS ok, you can't get netscape 3.04 to reject all cookies, but that's a small thing) Ed Cogburn wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear friends, I recently downloaded and installed Netscape 3.01. Everytime I try to launch it. it says it can't load libXpm.so.4. I really don' know what to do... Any help??? thanx giulio ps: I run Debian 2.0R3 I highly reccomend going back to ftp.netscape.com and getting the libc6 version of NS (4.08 or 4.5). Or upgrade to slink and get NS from Debian's distribution. 3.01 is very old. In the /pub/communicator/ branch look for a supported/unsupported sub dir. The unsupported branch will take you to the libc6 versions (they have 'glibc2' in their name). Otherwise you'll need libc5, xlib6, and xpm4.7 from oldlibs (I think that is all). -- Ed C. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Emacs and vertical split
You can use 'ctrl-x ' and 'ctrl-x ' to scroll horizontally, or
'ctrl-x {' and 'ctrl-x }' to make that window wider / narrower.
Rich
Martin Schulze wrote:
Err, this problem is tricky. In Emacs I splitted the screen vertically,
which should work with 132 coloums, I thought. (C-x 3 or C-x Shift-3).
Then I tried to display a text in both windows but some lines are wider
than 65 characters. I don't seem to be able to view what is hidden on
the right side.
Please take a look at this excerpt:
[..]
gesamte Speicher, also RAM plus Swap-Bereich, bei Textmodus-Syst$|
etwa 25 MB und bei X-Windows-Systemen, die auch von Linux verwen$|
Remember to mark your root partition ``Bootable''.
grafische Oberfläche, etwa 90 MB betragen sollte. Linux nutzt ni$|
mehr als 128 MB zum Swappen, so daß es keinen Grund gibt eine gr$|
-:---F1 schrittweise.sgml (Linuxdoc latin-1 Fill)--L158--18 -:---F1
en-install-2.1.7.txt (Text Fill)--L2038--71%
^
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+---+
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Apparently indicating that there is text hidden on the right side.
How to I view it?
Regards,
Joey
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Re: magic cookie error
George Bonser wrote: snip xhost is ridden with security problems, use the xauth method. Anyone on any host in your xauth table can view your screen, even change things like remap your keyboard, while you are completely unaware that it is happening. If you have typed xauth +myhost at some point, any user on ^ I think this is a typo for xhost? It seems to contridict what you have said about using the xauth method over the xhost method, above. I tried this, line, and got an unknown command +myhost error from xauth. Rich myhost can see exactly what you are seeing any time they want to. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
CRASH: filesystem went read only
I just had a huge panic, when my file system 'spontaneously' turned read only! I was using netscape (3.04), and all its windows vanished from the screen. I tried to restart it, and got the 'detected lock' message, so I tried to 'rm' ~/.netscape/lock. It told me: rm: lock: filesystem readonly. (or words to that effect, unfortunately, I couldn't cut'n'paste, or record them electronically, and forgot to write down all the messages, sorry) I tried removing this as root, and had the same problem, and found that my entire filesystem was read-only. Unfortunately, I had a very important file that I had been editing all morning open in emacs. I also found I could not RTFM, or send emails, because these operations needed to create tempory files. Luckily, I remebered that I had a mounted dos partition, and I was able to save my work on that, then re-boot. On shutdown, I got an error like: stopping system log daemon: warning failed to kill 107: no such process. And on reboot, got all sorts of filesystem errors, which, hopefully efschk has fixed. Does anyone have any idea what could have caused this to happen, and what I can do to prevent it from happening again. Thanks Rich
Re: magic cookie error
I've seen this question a lot on this list, and although this (xhost) is a working solution, it seems to be considered to be a bit of a security hole (anyone logged on to the localhost can access the X-Server, and thus monitor keys and find out peoples passwords). If you set the XAUTHORITY variable in your environment as root to be /home_path_of_the_person_running_the_xserver/.Xauthority, eg by adding: export XAUTHORITY=/home/user/.Xauthority to the .bashrc of root (if you are using the bash shell), then root can open windows on user's xserver. Beware, however, that you will have a problem if you try to start an X-server as root, as it will try and use an old/non-existent(?) copy of .Xauthority from user's home directory. To get around this, you would need to unset the XAUTHORITY variable in root's environment. However, I belive running X as root is also considered to be the wrong thing to do. hope this help Rich Phil Dyer wrote: Pollywog wrote: I am getting this MAGIC COOKIE error when I try to run some X stuff as root. Is there something I can add to my profile in order to avoid it? Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key ktail: cannot connect to X server :0.0 thanks -- Andrew -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/nullman man xhost -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Sending with mutt/smail. was: Netscape 'movemail'
Paulo Henrique Baptista de Oliveira wrote: Hi Richard, first thank you for aswering me with great patiente. :) Richard Harran wrote: snip I don't use mutt, or smail to send mail, so I'm cc this reply to the list, as we're reaching the limit of my knowledge! First. I installed smail with Debian 2.0. I dont install exim. Yet. I tried your .fetchmailrc and then typed fetchmail. Worked!! I started mutt and voila the mail was here. Yes: smail provides similar services to exim. I'm not exactly sure of all the differences, but from what I've seen of emails to this list, people seem to prefer exim. snip But, I didnt could send mail. :( What I have to do? This is again a job for smail(/exim). I think when you send a message in mutt, it should start up smail to do the actual work. I can't really tell you what to do here, sorry. Another question. I grep ppp/ip-up.d and saw the line: phantasy:/etc/ppp/ip-up.d# more fetchmail-up #!/bin/bash test -r /etc/fetchmailrc \ fetchmail --syslog --invisible --fetchmailrc /etc/fetchmailrc phantasy:/etc/ppp/ip-up.d# But this is the global configuration (/etc). How do I start fetchmail as user every time I connect? Have you understanded the question? I'm not sure, but I guess you could replace /etc/fetchmailrc with $HOME/.fetchmailrc, but this would cause problems if ip-up is run before login. You should also check there isn't anything important in the /etc file that isn't in the ~/ file. Again, sorry but I'm uncertain about this stuff: my setup is a bit different, 'cos I'm permanently connected. You can get it to deliver to different folders, and even sort your mail by editing a .forward file in your home directory, eg. if $header_resent-from: contains debian-user then save $home/mail/debian else save $home/mail/inbox Then you need to set up your reader to point to the mail directory in snip I have read of procmail too. Is it good? I think procmail does pretty much the same function as that of exim described above. You need a ~/.procmailrc file, with (differently formatted rules in it. As to the advantages and disadvantages over ~.forward and exim, I don't know. I've put the example .procmailrc from the procmail manpage below, to give you an idea. I think it puts most of your mail in ~/Mail/mbox, saves anything with a name ending in berg in the From: field to ~/Mail/from_me, and bins anything with a Subject: line ending in Flame. sample small $HOME/.procmailrc: PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin MAILDIR=$HOME/Mail #you'd better make sure it exists DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox #completely optional LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from #recommended :0: * ^From.*berg from_me :0 * ^Subject:.*Flame /dev/null Thank again for your atention. I'm a coordinator of LUG here at Brazil (Rio de Janeiro). I'm introducing Linux everywhere. Especially Debian (that is very good). I have to know basic things to teach others. Paulo Henrique Sorry I couldn't be more helpful this time. Hopefully someone on the list will be able to clarify this. Rich. snip original query
Re: Debian Logo *Idea* Contest! (Delay for painting contest required)
I kind of fancied chucking some stuff in on this one: the plan is we all spout out all sorts of ideas, until someone comes up with the perfect solution incorporating the best bits from everywhere, right? I like the orca idea (it's the black and white one that eats seal, isn't it?). I also like the lighthouse, open 'soure' - light source, so maybe on that theme, the orca could be spurting from its blow hole (water source- might all be a bit tenuous). I think a problem with the lighthouse might be that some movie studio (Touchstone?) already has it. My sort of original contribution is: I thought of putting the 'd' and 'b' of debian (OK someone said no letters, but 90% of logos have letters in them, and I'm not just thinking of 'debian' writen in an unusual font, although I think it is a bit silly to rule this out completely) together to form an arch, with the tail of the d arching over to almost meet the tail of the b. The idea is that an arch is always open. In the middle of the arch is the top half of the sun poking over the ground, and spraying rays (someone artistic could have fun making the lighting look good), for that open source theme again. There is also a glimmer coming from the gap between the tail of the d, and that of the b. I don't know if this description is very clear. This is just something I came up with, and I am very happy for anyone to develop any bits of it they like, or totally ignore it if they like. Unfortunately, my drawing ability is too crappy for me to show you how I envision this idea. Rich Brandon Mitchell wrote: On Thu, 18 Feb 1999, Andreas Tille wrote: So let us define first, *what* we want to show on our logo. This is always the first step in software related things. Wy did we step over it?? Last time I asked what a good open source logo would look like (or some related question) irc got pretty quiet. This seems to be the thing no one knows. Wasn't there an open source logo contest? I think of things like an open box or open book. I also like this poster of a light house I have which seems appropriate. If we get some good ideas, maybe some gimp'ers would be willing to draw them up before this contest is over. Our request to the gimp contest team was too vague and directionless. Without direction, all they can do is lots of different fonts and modifications of the word debian. Thanks for starting this thread, Brandon +------+ | Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bmitch.nws.net/ ICQ 30631197 | | Throughout history, UNIX systems have regulary been broken into, beaten, | | brutalized, corrupted, commandeered, compromised, and illegally fscked. | | -- UNIX System Administration Handbook | -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Netscape 'movemail'
Could anyone please tell me how the 'internal movemail' / 'external movemail' options in netscape mail/news preferences work? I (still) want to use fetchmail+exim to get my mail, but netscape mail to read it, and I was hoping finding out how to use these options might be the first step along the way. TIA Rich
Re: NON-US means?
I think that it is still an export thing: the difference is that the international version has weaker encryption, which is not covered by the export laws (and is less secure: probably the which ever agency it is can crack it). However, I'm English, so what would I know? Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Hasler dixit: Horacio writes: There are some restriction laws on importing and exporting crypto into/out of the U.S. The US has no laws restricting the importation of crypto. I believe downloading any of the `international' versions of a crypto based program is illegal within the U.S. Else, why products such as PGP keep having an international and non-international (read U.S.) versions? -- Un saludo, Horacio [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Quis custodiet ipsos custodet? -- -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: Question re fvwm95 generated menu
I don't know the answer to this exactly, but if you open the sub-menus using the shortcut-key (eg 'a' for Apps), the menus open stay in the same place, wherever the mouse is. However, this mean clicking on the mouse to bring up the menu, then moving to the k'board. HTH Rich Adam Archibald wrote: Hi folks, I wonder if anyone can help me. I have a quick question re the main generated menu in Debian's fvwm95. What I want to do is configure it so that when I click on one of the submenus (say `Apps' for instance) it stays up, regardless of where else on the screen/the main menu I then move the mouse pointer. (By `click' I mean just clicking once, not click and drag.) I'd like to do it so that the entire menu operates in this way. I've had a look through the various documentation but haven't been able to work out how to do it. Your help would be much appreciated! Cheers Adam -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null
Re: svgalib
ivan wrote:
I have now decided to use svgalib but already have run into trouble !
I think you may need the svgalibg1-dev package. The *-dev packages seem
to contain the header files and the static libraries required to
complile your own programs. Note this packages depends on libc6-dev,
which you probably also don't have. (also if your using Debian 1.3, Bo,
the package name is probably just svgalib-dev)
Hope that helps
Rich
/* programme svgatest.c */
#include stdio.h
#include vga.h
main()
{
/* code */
}
#: gcc svgatest.c -O2 -lvga
Programme won't compile because
a) Can't find vga.h
b) Can't find vga library
Yet dselect claims svgalib is installed. Do I need to install svgalib-bin ?
I have vga.h in the usr/src tree - is this where it should be ?
Where is the vga library that needs to be linked ?
Thanks for your help.
Ivan.
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Xmodmap, delete
I know someone posted about this earlier, but I've 'lost' the email. Could someone please tell me how to change the behavior of my backspace key (on AT keyboard) to be backspace (as in move cursor to left deleting) for all my X apps. I seem to remember it was something in Xmodmap, and unusually for Debian, this file doesn't come with lots of commented out examples. Thanks in advance Rich Harran
Netscape 3 cookies
Does anyone know how I can make netscape 3 refuse all cookies without prompting me: there no good to me, and slightly sinister, but some sights try to set so many, its a nuisance to refuse them all by hand. Cheers Rich
Netscape3
I was hoping to install netscape 3, 'cos it's smaller and apparently less buggy than netscape 4, but I can't get the tar file off netscape. The .deb package suggests ftp://archive.netscape.com, but this site wont let me log on as anonymous or as guest. Does anyone knnow where I can get the appropriate netscape file. BTW are there going to be 'proper' debian packages for hamm anytime soon, as I guess it would be better to use these. I've been holding out for them, but I really need to get a frames web browser up and running soon. Thanks in advance Rich Harran.
Netscape3 install
Thanks to Doug, I got the netscape3 tar file, and I've installed it, but it won't let me run as root for security reasons. As I am the only user on my computer, I always login as root (I know this is considered 'bad', but it is far more convenient for me). I remember having a similar problem on an old computer, and it got fixed, probably thanks to you guys :-), so can anyone tell me how to fix this (without changing to another user - eg I would still want to save downloaded files to /root). Cheers Rich
mozilla
I've been following the thread on Netscape, and someone said that the Debian package version might be available from today. The nearest thing I could find was mozilla in slink, but this required some libs from slink, which in turn require some others, etc, and my installed system is from hamm. Should I install these now on my system, and if so will this cause any problems (eg as I need to update libc6)? Or is there a version of netscape coming for hamm libraries. BTW, is it worth upgrading to slink, or is this considered unstable. Apologies if any of these are stupid questions. Rich
