Re: glibc libs
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 14:42:18 -0400, Wesley A. Wannemacher wrote: I am trying to compile and install the glibc libraries on my Linux machine. I am including threads and crypt libs. I get past the configure script w/o problems, but when compiling i get the following: I am installing it so that MySQL will work. BTW it is glibc v2.1.3 Is there a particular reason you're trying to compile glibc from source rather than using the 'libc6' package and friends in potato? Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Setting up an internal mirror with custom debs
Brad wrote: On Sun, Jun 18, 2000 at 03:10:06PM -0500, Matt Ray wrote: I've setup an internal anonymous FTP mirror for potato, but now I need to add a custom .deb to it. I can't seem to get my sources.list and the location of the .debs to work together. [SNIP] but I'm banging my head against a wall. Any suggestions for setting where to place files in an ftp directory? I'll assume you know how to use dpkg-scanpackages to create a Packages file, with the proper paths in the 'Filename:' fields. All you need then is to understand how apt interprets sources.list. Back in February i wrote up an explanation, check http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-user-0002/msg02422.html Hope this helps! That kinda helped, got me on the right path at least. Everything was working just fine, the real problem was that I didn't realize the Packages file had to be gzip'ed (Packages.gz). This was not the case when I used the Packages file off of a floppy, I'm not really sure why this is inconsistent between transfer methods and I don't recall seeing it officially documented. -- Matthew H. Ray Programmer, Coral Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Setting up an internal mirror with custom debs
I've setup an internal anonymous FTP mirror for potato, but now I need to add a custom .deb to it. I can't seem to get my sources.list and the location of the .debs to work together. The syntax for the ftp site is: deb ftp://chronos frozen main contrib non-free and that works just fine. And I can use my custom debs with the syntax: deb file:/floppy/debian/ coral/ and that works too. But I would really prefer to put the custom debs on the FTP site somewhere. I've tried various permutations of deb ftp://chronos debian coral but I'm banging my head against a wall. Any suggestions for setting where to place files in an ftp directory? Thanks, Matthew H. Ray Programmer, Coral Technologies, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: html2ps
On Thu, Jun 15, 2000 at 11:54:18 +0200, Goeman Stefan wrote: I would rather like to issue one command to create the complete manual (in ps format) at once. Have a look at 'htmldoc' (which is in potato, haven't checked in slink). HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
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Re: telnet replacement
Recently, I have learned that telnet is not a good idea and have seen so many suggestion on ssh and wondering how would I do this from windows/NT? I did not seen windows/NT provide the ssh. There are two ssh clients for NT that are freely available. Putty - http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ TTSH - http://www.zip.com.au/~roca/ttssh.html On the Linux box I would recommend using OpenSSH wich is available for http://www.openssh.com. Jim
Re: Latex and Foiltex
On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 14:43:02 -0500, Raja R Harinath wrote: As for why it is not available as a separate package in Debian -- maybe there's no one interested enough. For slink, it's part of tetex-nonfree; I don't know what happened to it for potato. Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: finding files in .deb packages
On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 12:45:44 -0700, John P. Donaldson wrote: I'm trying to get a program I installed to start, but it says it needs libdb.so.3. /lib/libdb.so.3 is part of libc6 in potato. How do I know what .deb package to install that will provide that library? Check out the various Contents-* files on your favourite neighbourhood Debian mirror. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: postfix help
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Dave Bateman wrote: ~/.fetchmailrc bash-2.04$ cat .fetchmailrc poll pop.mindsprind.com protocol POP3 username batemand is dsb password xxx fetchall i Looks ok. Is there a configuatorer/magic pill that sets up postfix, or am I going to edit main.cf/master.cf by hand? Same question about mutt, will it work w/ postfix/fetchmail? edit .muttrc? No magic configurator but if you go to the Postfix homepage there is a pretty detailed explanation, http://www.postfix.org. One helpful hint with postfix is to use procmail for local delivery. With mutt the best thing to do until you get everything figured out is to copy the /etc/Muttrc file to ~/.muttrc and then start editing.
Re: mozilla segfault...
On Sun, Jun 11, 2000 at 17:14:16 +0200, Christopher Splinter wrote: monkeyhouse:~/$ mozilla [...] Segmentation fault Any ideas? What does strace say? And does mv-ing ~/.mozilla help? Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Linux client for NT workgroup
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 01:06:23 -0700, Peter Welte wrote: Is it possible to configure Debian (or any other Linux distribution for that matter) to verify logins against a Windows NT server instead of the /etc/passwd file? Most likely, yes, by using PAM and the pam_ntdom module (http://freshmeat.net/appindex/1999/12/30/946594248.html). HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: which SQL database?
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 21:21:37 +0800, Alex Kwan wrote: I wanted to setup a Apache+PHP3 Intranet Database Server, Orcale, MySQL or PostgreSQL, which one is more easy to learn and config also better supported by Apache+PHP3 ? I haven't worked with Oracle, but I suspect it is quite complex (given the fact that Oracle DBA is a valid job description nowadays, and the large number of Oracle consultants around). PostgreSQL is probably slightly more difficult to learn than MySQL, but it is truely free and supports many more SQL / relational database functionality (e.g. transactions). I suspect PHP's support for PostgreSQL and MySQL is more or less comparable. HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Ghostvie won't read recent .pdf files
On Thu, Jun 08, 2000 at 08:58:55 +0200, Mirek Kwasniak wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 10:08:10PM +0200, J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote: Have you tested how xpdf deals with them? But xpdf has many problems with fonts :( Sure, but that's somewhat besides the point. If xpdf does not produce errors on them, that would be a strong indication of a bug in gv; if xpdf has problems with them, that would be a strong indication of errors in the PDF files. Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: Where is Xdefaults? (new to X tweaking)
On Wed, Jun 07, 2000 at 21:39:11 +0200, Vitux wrote: I thought .Xdefaults was supposed to be in /etc/X11/yadayada, per-program system-wide X resources can be found in /etc/X11/Xresources/ HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Ghostvie won't read recent .pdf files
On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 13:02:38 -0400, David Teague wrote: ghostview crashes when I try to read .pdf files created recently. Is there a fix? Have you tested how xpdf deals with them? Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: Interbase
On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 14:52:30 +0100, Sathpal Singh wrote: Does anyone know if the DBMS Interbase is packaged for Debian? It is not. There has not yet been a source release of Interbase; the Interbase source release is expected within the next months (check technocrat.net for details). After the source release, it might take a while for Interbase to become stable/usable enough for inclusion. If you need a free software RDBMS now, use PostgreSQL. HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: How to extract the ms-tnef attachment in debian?
On Tue, Jun 06, 2000 at 21:27:20 +0200, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote: Does anybody knows how to filter out all the rubbish and get the data back? What is the ms-tnef MIME type? Have a look at http://freshmeat.net/appindex/1999/10/13/939847359.html . HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
New to Debian and would like some input on this message
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Re: Tool to draw E-R diagrams?
On Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 13:39:22 +0200, Preben Randhol wrote: PS: Why isn't there a reply-to the list address on this list. http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Enlightenment Xfree problems
On Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 05:47:42 -0700, Robert Martinovic wrote: This is just my inexperience, but if I'm starting up through xdm, which file and how, do I get 32 bit colour instead of 8bit? In /etc/X11/XF86Config, put DefaultColorDepth 32 in the Screen section, or add -bpp 32 to the /usr/bin/X11/X line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: please advice on voip software?
On Thu, Jun 01, 2000 at 02:32:35 +, john smith wrote: then any kind of voip that can communicate with both linux and windows. Have you looked at http://www.openh323.org/ ? Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Ishmail being developed - new version available!
On Wed, May 31, 2000 at 09:24:27 +0100, Phillip Deackes wrote: Ishmail is a Motif app and needs the Motif development libraries to be installed on your system. I tried compiling against lesstif and it didn't work. The maintainer, Evgeny Stambulchik, maintains it should but then I have had little success compiling apps against lesstif. When Ishmail was released I played around with it a bit and got it to compile against LessTif. You may want to take a look at http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~jdassen/tmp/ishmail.tar.bz2 HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: potato C++
On Sun, May 28, 2000 at 07:29:32 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having trouble with potato's C++. Programs, including 'Hello World', compile cleanly but produce only produce some line feeds as output. Weird. g++ --version 2.95.2 (compiles clean w/ g++, but produces only a few blank line feeds) What does ldd on the resulting binary say? (doesn't compile clean with gcc) You need to use g++. gcc doesn't do the various bits of magic needed for compiling/linking C++ code (e.g. include patch, adding -lstdc++). Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: lp.o module will not load
Try modprobe'ing instead of insmod'ing (assuming you've done a depmod on the new modules0. Or insmod parport first; I think that is where the unresolved symbols point to. Or possibly parport_pc. At 10:12 PM 5/23/00 +, Pollywog wrote: I recompiled my 2.2.15 kernel with printer support as a module and this is what I get when I insmod the module. What could be wrong, and is it a problem with this kernel? #insmod /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/lp.o /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/lp.o: unresolved symbol parport_claim_or_block_R7098ea8a /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/lp.o: unresolved symbol register_chrdev_Rc8dc8350 /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/lp.o: unresolved symbol parport_enumerate_R00173fa6 /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/lp.o: unresolved symbol parport_unregister_device_Rf190b30a /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/lp.o: unresolved symbol interruptible_sleep_on_timeout_R25a057d5 /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/lp.o: unresolved symbol __wake_up_R7a24c808 /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/lp.o: unresolved symbol parport_register_device_Rc0a47fb4 /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/lp.o: unresolved symbol parport_release_R4941ccbd /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/lp.o: unresolved symbol parport_ieee1284_nibble_mode_ok_R6b2e03ae /lib/modules/2.2.15/misc/lp.o: unresolved symbol parport_wait_peripheral_R444ff5e9 -- Andrew -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 3C905 with AsusTek K7V
I seem to recall problems with older 3c59x.o modules and newer 3C905 NICs. Newer kernels have a module that works; older ones need to have the newer version of the module (available from Don Becker's site, http://www.scyld.com/network/index.html) patched in. SInce you don't say what version of Debian or what kernel you are using, you might be experiencing this problem. In the output you sent, the key line is: eth0: 3Com 3c59x Boomerang 100baseTx at 0xa400, 00:60:97:ba:91:1d, IRQ 255 *** Warning: IRQ 255 is unlikely to work! *** Do you really get this same line when you set... the IRQ for the card to 5 in the BIOS? Did you also set the BIOS to non-PnP operating system? At 01:09 AM 5/24/00 -0700, Nolan Clark wrote: My 3C905 nic does not seem to work with the K7V motherboard. The card works fine in windows, but it will not work in redhat or debian linux. Redhat didn't have much in the way of errors, but debian produced some very interesting things during boot up: [details deleted] Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: howto
Installation of modules is an area in which the various Linux distributions differ quite a bit. The HowTo you read doesn't reflect this variation. For a Debian install, just add this line to /etc/modules ne io=0x240,0x260 At 01:07 PM 5/24/00 +0100, Charles Stephen wrote: I have installed to ethernet adapter cards but only one is being detected. ... Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /dev/hda10
At 05:39 PM 5/24/00 +0200, Oswald Buddenhagen wrote: And i386 can have a max of 7(?) with extended partitions enabled. not sure, but this sounds very strange to me. afaik, you can nest extended patitions as much as you want. I believe you are correct, Oswald. Basically, you daisy-chain the extended partitions (think linked list, though it's technically a bit different). I'm also puzzled by the initial question. Every Debian install I've done created /dev/hda10 as part of the install process. Perhaps the original poster made a mistake when creating it? The output of ls -l /dev/hda10 might be informative, as might a partition list of /dev/hda from fdisk. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: multiple ne2000 cards?
How are you running one of them now? The way I do this is with an entry in /etc/modules of this sort: ne io=0x300,0x320 You need to supply the right IO ports for the two cards (and, of course, they need to use different IO ports and IRQs). At 03:23 PM 5/24/00 -0600, Alberto Brealey wrote: i've got 2 ne2000 cards, each working perfectly with the ne.o modules. my question is: how can i use the module to get _both_ cards working simultaneously? Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Dumb X Windows Question
At 08:57 PM 5/22/00 -0700, Jay Kelly wrote: Ok I have another dumb question. If I want to install X Windows what do I do. I have already tried apt-get install xserver-svga and it installs, but when I try to run the XF86Config I get command not found and I get the same for XF86Setup. What did I forget to install? XF86Config isn't a command; it's a data file. The command is xf86config. I imagine it is in xserver-common. XF86Setup is a command, but it's from a supplemental package ... xf86setup, I believe ... and it requires that you have the VGA16 X server installed (package xf86-vga16). Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Version Of Debian
At 09:33 AM 5/23/00 -0700, Jay Kelly wrote: Hello All, What Version on of Debian should I be using. Is there a big difference from Slink to Potato to Frozen? Any seuggestion would be great There is no one should. The reason why there are different distributions is because they fit different needs. What are yours? Yes, there are big differences among them. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/Linux
At 12:40 PM 5/23/00 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If i download this program do i risk crashing windows? Probably. In my experience, any time you do *anything* with Windows, you risk crashing it. But that's probably not what you meant. Downloading isn't the issue -- a Debian download is no different from any other download to Windows. Installing is the issue. You have to take more care when installing dual-boot systems than Linux-only systems. There's a dual-boot HowTo -- I forget the exact name -- at www.linuxdoc.org that you should read before trying to have a single computer run both WinXX and any Linux distribution. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dhcp cable modem (somewhat urgent)
At 04:54 PM 5/23/00 -0500, Chris Hoover wrote: I'm in need of a little help. Tomorrow the cable company is coming to hook up my cable modem (HURRAY). Anyway, I have been told that they (road runner) use dhcp to assign the ip addresses. I know from some pages I have seen that linux will work with road runners dhcp, but I have a different problem. I'm running dhcp on my home network. Question: How do you get the dhcp client on my firewall computer to grab the cable modem address and not an address from my internal dhcp? You don't say which dhcp client you are using; there are at least two. The one I've used, dhcpcd, has a variable IFACE that you set equal to the interface name (eth0, eth1, or whatever) you want dhcpcd to request a lease for. I forget if this is in the init.d script or in a config file in /etc/dhcpc . Also a heads up: some cable-modem providers require you to use a particular hostname as part of the least request; I can't recall if RR is like this or not. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can't print
At 09:51 PM 5/23/00 +, Pollywog wrote: Thanks, I had all of those things installed, so I am stumped. I am going to try putting printer support in as a module, maybe that will help. I'm far from the most expert on parallel ports -- until recently, I hadn't touched one in years -- but I did just have to get a parallel printer working on a potato server. I did it by (manually) insmod'ing parport.o parport_pc.o lp.o Most of the printing docs I've seen don't mention the last of these. I'm not sure if the second one is actually needed; it might be the support for non-printer devices on the parport. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Printing to a Hewlett Packard Jet Direct card
I've used a LaserJet 4M with JetDirect for years, and I assume a JetDirect card on one HP printer is pretty much the same as another. Here are the printcap entries I use: ascii|caxton_ascii:\ :lp=:\ :rm=caxton:\ :rp=text:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/ERRORLOG:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/caxton_ascii: raw|caxton_raw:\ :lp=:\ :rm=caxton:\ :rp=raw:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/ERRORLOG:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/caxton_raw: Aside from my using a resolvable hostname instead of an address in rm=, the only real difference I can see is in our lp= entries. Mine works; I can't figure out whether yours should or not. Aside from that, I always follow the practice of running lpr as lpr -Pprinter_name file_name not, as you do lpr -P printer_name file_name Again, I don't know if this difference is consequential or not. At 05:57 PM 5/23/00 -0500, A. Scott White wrote: I am trying to set my Debian box to print to an HP LJ-8000 with a Jet Direct card. has anyone ever done this? I want the name of the printer to be surgery. Assuming 111.222.333.444 is the IP of the Jet Direct card, here is my current setup: printcap: # lp|surgery|Surgery:\ :lp=/dev/null:sh:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/surgery:\ :rm=111.222.333.444:rp=raw: surgery-text:\ :lp=/dev/null:sh:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/surgery-text:\ :rm=111.222.333.444:rp=text: # If I enter the command line: lpr -P surgery-text myfile.txt or: lpr -P surgery mypsfile.ps I get nothing. If I check lpq, it shows that a job was processed by the queue, but nothing comes out of the printer. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ethernet installation
At 04:54 PM 5/23/00 -0700, Jay Kelly wrote: Im sorry to ask this again, what do I do to add another ethernet card to my box. I want to add a Kingston to eth1 and I cant remember the way to do it. Am I right in assuming you are talking about a pci card? As I recall, Kingston cards use tulip.o, and need a fairly recent version of the module (no problem on potato, but may need a kernel upgrade on slink). So ... EXACTLY what you do depends on what you have as eth0, but in general you plug in the card, let the BIOS's PnP take care of IRQ and IO assignment, and add the tulip module to the list in /etc/modules (assuming you have tulip.o available for your kernel). Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modem Setup
At 04:01 PM 5/23/00 -0700, Jay Kelly wrote: Hey, How do I install a modem. I looked at the man page and tried isapnp buty I couldnt figure out how to use it. Im using a PnP 33.6 Wisecom Modem. I also looked at the howto's and it was very little help. Any help would be great. Depends on the modem. I just checked the database at http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/2519a.html and found a bunch of listings for Wisecom. Some are Winmodems, so they can't be installed. For the others, it depends on details you haven't mentioned. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Netgear or Linksys NIC's? Please?
At 09:40 PM 5/21/00 -0600, montefin wrote [in part]: Did whoever told you this realize that you were connecting a Linux-based fiewall to the router? Ray, yes. But since it's the folks at my ISP, I'm not sure whether they put their knowledge of my system plan together with the package they're selling me. Do you foresee any problems in the Flowpoint Router or the NIC cards vis a vis my linux firewall? I've got to say though that my ISP is one of the most pro-Linux and Linux-literate that I've heard of. I don't know that router, so I have no opinion. But if you (lucky you!) actually have an ISP that understands about Linux, I wouldn't be too concerned. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: I see everything twice.
At 11:25 PM 5/21/00 -0600, montefin wrote: Hi all, How come I'm receiving two of most replies from this list. Not that I'm complaining. The advice I receive here is ten times as informed and actionable as from any other user-list. Just curious. See if you get two copies of this one. If you don't, then the answer is simple: you get two copies because the message is sent both to your e-mail address and to the list. That's a common occurrance on lists that don't use Reply-to: munging (please, everyone, this is just an explanation, not an attempt to open an argument about the merits of the two approaches!), because it is the easiest way for most people to include the list in replies. For example, I received two copies of your message describing your good experiences with SouthWest Cyberport and James. And no, I don't recognize the line. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: POP3 port
grep pop3 /etc/services will tell you that pop3 uses port 110. In general. /etc/services is the file where you get answers to this sort of question. At 06:42 PM 5/22/00 +0200, Viktor Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've trouble finding out, what port a POP3 server normally listens to. I tried 25, but that's SMTP (sendmail). And a look at the fetchmail man page didn't help me either. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: zimage
You're looking in the right place (/usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot) for the zImage file. If it's not there, your description is missing some detail that, if we know it, would explain what happened. A couple of possibilities: 1. You never mention actually making the symlink ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.2.14 /usr/src/linux. Might you (somehow) have compiled a 2.2.14 kernel but be lookin in the directory for the 2.0.36 source? 2. You don't mention doing the make dep step (right before make zImage). Did you omit it only in your e-mail recap or in the actual compile? 3. make zImage will, even for a successful install, generate a lot of output to the screen. Are you sure there were no errors? You get a prompt even if the compile ends with an error. These are just guesses. If none of them hits the maek, review what you did a bit more carefully. Since your description skipped over a couple of steps that I know are needed for a successful compile, I have to assume it may have left out other things as well. At 01:55 PM 5/22/00 -0700, cls--colo spgs wrote: debs, i'm working on my first kernel recompile. i'm at the point where i need to move the recompiled kernel to the to boot location. unfortunately, i cannot find the recompiled kernel. detailed synopis (pursant to kernel.org's, linux-2.2.14.tar.gz readme): 1. currently running potato on kernel 2.0.36. 2. downloaded linux-2.2.14.tar.gz (from http://www.kernel.org) to /usr/src. 3. as root and from /usr/src, i ran tar xvzf lin*.tar.gz 4. cd to /usr/src/linux 5. ran make mrproper 6. ran make config 7. configured the kernel 8. ran make zImage 9. tried to find the newly recompiled kernel (zimage?/linux?) in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot. all that's there is: makefile, bootsect.s, compressed, install.sh, setup.s, tools, and video.s. i didn't see error messages during the process and i always got a prompt after make commands. q: where may i find the newly recompiled kernel? q: will it have a name other than zimage or linux? Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: POP3
At 03:36 PM 5/22/00 -0500, A. Scott White wrote: When I try to connect to the Debian box with Outlook Express, however, the connection fails. I assume that is because there is no POP3 server running. Is sendmail a POP3 server? No, it isn't. You need a separate POP3 server. Here, we use popa3d (which you can apt-get under that name). apt-cache search pop3 turns up several others, but I haven't tried them. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unable to compile ss2 under Debian 2.2
At 12:39 AM 5/23/00 +0200, Ron Rademaker wrote: make?? try apt-get install ssh2, after that it should simply work. What archive are you connecting to? If I do (using potato) apt-cache search ssh, I get ssh ( == OpenSSH) and ssh-nonfree ( == SSH 1.2.27-6), and an assortment of support packages, but no ssh2. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: memory allocation error
With no information provided about the hosts, it is hard for me to think of anything except the obvious possibilities: 1. There are more processes running on the box than you think. 2. Something that is running has a memory leak. 3. Something is wrong with memory detection in the BIOS or the kernel, causing Linux to think the host has very little memory. Since you are .nz and the box is .au, I assume you can't just pop over and login at the console. But can someone local do that to check the host? At 01:29 PM 5/23/00 +1200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i have just recently tried to telnet into one of my new slink 2.0.36 boxes and it comes back with the following error : Trying 10.42.215.136... Connected to chameleon.diag.co.au Escape character is '^]'. telnetd: fork: Cannot allocate memory . Connection closed by foreign host. i can connect via ftp but when i do a ls -l i get : ftp ls -l 200 PORT command successful. 550 /bin/ls: Cannot allocate memory. there is practically nothing running on the box so i do not know as to why this sudden memory allocation would come up?? Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Missing header file conio.h
On Sat, May 20, 2000 at 04:36:41 -0700, Eric G . Miller wrote: The semi-equivalent system under Unix would be [n]curses. There's probably little chance of getting that program to run under Linux without some serious rewriting on your part. Well, there is a reasonable chance it will compile with the help of http://www.inf.fu-berlin.de/~fland/fractor/linux-conio-1.02.tgz which is a wrapper around ncurses. Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: OT: Is pgp 2.6.X considered old?
On Sun, May 21, 2000 at 11:41:12 -0700, Kenward Vaughan wrote: I just installed pgp last night, read some mail this AM, and got a need newer pgp version message from a tagged post. I haven't used pgp before, so don't know if the older version is considered really old now. More or less. You may want to consider using GnuPG, the GNU Privacy Guard, which is a free software implementation of the ideas behind PGP and which doesn't rely on patented algorithms (RSA in the US, IDEA in Europe). If you need backward compatibility with PGP2, have a look at the gpg-rsa and gpg-idea packages. HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: modem question
**External** modems don't have IRQs and ioports; serial ports do. Which serial port did you plug it into -- /dev/ttyS0 (DOS's COM1) or /dev/ttyS1 (DOS's COM2)? You can use setserial in probe mode (e.g., setserial /dev/ttyS0) to find out what the current settings are for a serial device. You need to have serial support in the kernel or loaded as a module for this to work. Beyond that ... it is easier to help if you say more than cant succed about what you tried and what went wrong. At 12:22 PM 5/21/00 -0700, Paulo Henrique Baptista wrote: HI all, anyone has a US/Robotics 3Com external modem. I'm trying to setup it and cant succed. What are its configurations? ioport, irq, setserial, ttyS? Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help: Netgear or Linksys NIC's? Please?
At 07:42 PM 5/21/00 -0600, montefin wrote [in part]: ... I'm having an SDSL connection installed the first week of June. I will need to have network cards in both my computers. I am told the installer will take care of the rest while installing a Flowpoint 2200 DSL Router. Did whoever told you this realize that you were connecting a Linux-based fiewall to the router? I have never had nor installed a network card in any computer. I have received recommendations on two: 1.) Netgear's FA310TX 10/100 PCI RJ45 NIC NIC 2.) Linksys's ETHERFAST FAST ENET PCI 10/100 MBS 10/100BTX RJ45 PNP Prime considerations are #1 support in Debian/Linux, #2 ease of installation and configuration for a non-hardware guy. I've seen both these cards discussed here and have read back through the archives, but would like some 'fresh' input before purchasing. I need to make a choice and buy install 2 of the same card this week to be ready for the installer. I've used the Linksys (specifically the LNE100TX). The tulip driver with the latest kernel (2.2.15) supports them properly. Haven't used the Netgear. Also used and liked a D-Link and (except for price) a 3C905. But they are all pci-slot cards -- does the 486/66 you plan to use as a firewall have pci slots? (Only asking since you identify youreslf as a non-hardware guy.) The 2 computers are: a.) a 486DX 66MHz, 24Mb, HDD 814Mb, Kernel 2.2.15pre19-2 -- currently all IDE (no-scsi card, although scsi is enabled in the kernel) booting only Debian Potato (not Frozen) over a 56k internal modem dial-up to a local ISP. Potato == Frozen right now. Or do you mean you haven't upgraded lately? If so, you want to, at least bringing the kernel up to 2.2.15. You'll need to compile your own kernel to enable some of the firewalling stuff anyway, probably. ... I happen to have a spare PI 166MHz mainboard a friend gave me, so if there's any significant advantage to upgrading the 486DX firewall box with that please let me know. I was planning to build a 3rd leg for the milkstool with that board but will use it now if there's considerable advantage in a faster firewall? The 486 is plenty fast for SDSL. I run a Slink-based 486/40 firewall here with DSL ... on a 10 mbps LAN with Ne2000 cars on both interfaces. Never a problem. For you, the only issue is whether your 486 has pci slots; if not, you'll need to run it at 10 mbps with isa-bus cards. No big deal for the DSL side, but possbily a problem on the LAN side. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Telnet Security
At 10:05 PM 5/19/00 -0700, Jay Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to keep my Telnet port open but still have security? No. At least not *good* security. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Telnet security
At 06:14 PM 5/20/00 +0700, Umum Wijoyo wrote: The previous discussion on Telnet security interested me. I would thus like to ask: How do you tell that ssh is running during your Telnet/Rlogin connection? You don't. ssh is a different service from telnet, more or less a drop-in replacement for rsh, but with encryption to provide security. You invoke it (in a Debian context) from the command line as ssh someplace.com, possibly with some additional options. How do you set-up ssh to work? Again in a Debian context, you do it by installing the ssh package. With no effort on your part, it will install in what others have referred to as password mode. Read the accompanying docs for the details on setting up other modes. I'm afraid I've been thinking that ssh was already working on my Linux box, but actually it wasn't...??? :-p If you've been thinking that it somehow modifies the telnet command itself, you haven't yet tested for its presence. Start with a simple check, like which ssh, and go from there. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Telnet security
At 02:31 PM 5/20/00 +0200, Sven Burgener wrote [in part]: How do you set-up ssh to work? Assuming you have debian, run: for the client # apt-get update; apt-get install ssh and the daemon # apt-get update; apt-get install sshd Did you check this? According to apt-cache search ssh (running on potato), there is no sshd package. My memory says that ssh installs both the server (daemon) and the client of OpenSSH. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pine in Debian [Was:Debian vs Red Hat???]
At 05:44 PM 5/20/00 +0200, Vitux wrote [in part]: Just a pitiful newbie wondering: I thought all *nix'es were supposed to use basically the same filesystem-structure. How come then, that Debian has proprietary placement of files? (maybe I've missed a point here, but isn't that part of the idea with *nix; to have a standard for the fs, which all flavors adhere to?!) I tend to feel uneasy using my buddy's SuSe-system; things don't work the way they do in Debian, and stuff is placed differently... Is Debian developing into a segregated OS, straying from the righteous path of *nix?! Not at all. There is some spread developing across all the major Linux distributions these days with respect to file placement. Start with *any* of (say) Caldera, Debian, Red Hat, Slackware, and SuSE, and move to *any* of the others, and you'll need to do some adjusting, sometimes considerable adjusting. Less than if you move from any of them to (say) Solaris or HP-UX, though. It's hard to say whether all *nix'es were supposed to use basically the same filesystem-structure or not. Depends on your definition of basically, I suppose. In any case, Debian isn't unusually bad in this respect. Standardization in Unix/Linux has always been more of an ideal than a realized practice. These days, when I advise clients on Linux server setup and staffing, I recommend that they make sure they hire sysadmin support that knows the specific Linux distribution they plan to use (or to hire a sysadmin, then let him or her pick the distribution) -- just knowing Linux isn't good enough any more, in my opinion ... as your experience trying to move between Debian and SuSE illustrates. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Telnet security
You need an entry in /etc/apt/sources.list for a non-US distribution site. Remember: those nasty US crypto-as-munitions export rules haven't actually ended yet! At 09:44 AM 5/20/00 -0700, Miguel Wooding wrote [in part]: When I run apt-get install ssh (after first having run apt-get install update), I get an error message saying that there is no available version, but the package exists in the database. What's up with that? ... my /etc/sources.list refers to: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian frozen non-free [rest deleted] Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Will KDE2 be in woody?
On Fri, May 19, 2000 at 10:44:55 +0200, Kjetil Ødegaard wrote: it probably means that the package is obsolete; IIRC, there were KDE .debs before the licensing issues were brought up. (the QT license is not considered a `free license' by the Debian project, so it cannot be included in Debian.) The licensing issue is more subtle than that; see http://www.debian.org/News/1998/19981008 . The essence of the licensing issue is the incompatibility between KDE's license (the GPL) and Qt's license (be it the non-free license for Qt1 or the free QPL for Qt2). Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: ISDN and Sprint
At 09:41 PM 5/19/00 -0400, Brian Schramm wrote: I live in a Sprint controled area. How does Sprint control an area for ISDN? They are offering a good deal on ISDN for my area but I cannot find out if Linux can handle the ISDN modem that they are offering with the service. The modem is: Eicon Diva t/a modem I am planing on setting the link up on a 486 running debian striped to use as a firewall and email server to my network. I will be using my other machines to run programs and GUI's on. 1. is this a standard modem? Probably not. ISDN modems aren't really modems; everyone just calls them that. They are CPE (customer-premises equipment specific) to ISDN. 2. can I use another modem? Like an internal? Ask Sprint. Seriously. ISDN is picky; there is no way to know what will work with a particular ISDN service except by asking the provider. However, if you mean will a standard 56K modem work?, the answer is no. Real modems work on analog lines; the D in ISDN stands for Digital. 3. Telco equipment can allways be more expencive then nessasary, can I buy this modem from another source? 4. Where can I find info on using this type of modem on Linux? Well ... just on a hunch, I typed www.encom.com into my Web browser, and found a relevant-looking home page. On it is a clickable graphic that reads Eicon supports Linux - Click for more. You might try that for answers to the above two questions. 5. Any gotas on running a serial device for a 128K connection? Sorry, but I don't understand this question. Never tell me the odds!--- Ray Olszewski-- Han Solo Palo Alto, CA[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Linux Telephony is it real?
On Thu, May 18, 2000 at 09:54:58 -0500, VEVE ROUDY wrote: A great number of companies on Internet talk about linux telephony, they have all projects projects , projects which are never achieved., or stay far from of linux End users. I think on this way, linux is a real mess, my favorite OS has great weakness where windows is really strong, I'm a little ashamed. Sounds like you've found your itch to scratch. I'm looking forward to seeing your contributions to the various VoIP projects. Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: C and C++ library docs
On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 10:41:35 +0200, Roso Giuseppe (Beppe) wrote: I have to ask if someone know if there is a good documentation of Gnu C and C++ libraries documentation in postscript, acrobat pdf or something like format. I found only some old documents and often info or man aren't so complete. For the GNU C library, the info documentation is the authorative documentation. You can produce PDF or PS from the documentation source in TeXinfo format, which is part of the source package of glibc. HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: debian linux installation
On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 15:47:11 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an operational system, but some basic tools such as pico are not installed or I cannot find them. Due to licensing issues, we can only distribute pico and pine in source form (see the 'pine4-src' and 'pine396-src' packages in non-free). nano is a free Pico clone which is available in potato. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: overhead slides?
On Thu, May 04, 2000 at 09:22:23 +1000, Brian May wrote: Is there any DFSG free software for producing overhead slides? Yes. Have a look at http://www.wi.leidenuniv.nl/~jdassen/talks/ortec/ for the sources of an overhead/projector presentation I prepared using pdflatex, ImageMagick and thumbpdf. HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: viewing pdf from mutt - procmail question?
On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 16:47:38 -0400, Lee Bradshaw wrote: I can view pdf attachments from mutt if they have mime headers like Content-Type: application/pdf; name=file.pdf However I get quite a few emails with Content-Type: application/octet-stream Does anyone have a reliable way for modifying the Content-Type and changing octet-stream to a useable type (pdf in this case)? I'd approach this in a different way (besides educating people about the proper use of MIME types of course): create a viewer script for application/octet-stream which saves its input in a temporary file, runs file -b thetempfile | magic2mime to determine the proper MIME type, and then view it using the see program from mime-utils. HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: Video/Audio Streaming Software
On Tue, May 02, 2000 at 07:11:37 -0700, Dan Hutchinson wrote: Does anyone know of Video/Audio Streaming Server/Client software that runs on Debian? For the server side, you may want to check out Apple's Darwin Streaming Server (http://www.publicsource.apple.com/projects/streaming/) in combination with a free Quicktime-converter (there's one listed at freshmeat, but I can't connect to it currently). HTH, Ray -- RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may not be a better one than the one the blocks live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: compile vs binary was RE: missing curses?
On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 12:10:02 +0100, Dominic Blythe wrote: i'm going to be compiling apache and php3 to get my modules in, so i thought i may as well do the lot. or is there a package for MySQL/Apache/PHP3? perhaps there should be. all the apache binaries I've ever seen don't include mod_perl or mod_php3. apt-get install php3 apache-perl php3-mysql HTH, Ray -- RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may not be a better one than the one the blocks live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: missing curses?
On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 09:10:55 +0100, Dominic Blythe wrote: i tried installing MySQL the other day, and configure stopped with the message no curses - the previous three or four lines of output were looking for tgetenv here and looking for tgetenv there... Any particular reason you're compiling it from source rather than using the Debian packages? how can i tell if i've got no curses library, You need to install the apropriate -dev (development files) package. and can i just get the ncurses/libcurses package and install it without impacting on my system Yes. (which is Corel, which is, I think, Slink)? Corel is slink-based. Get the libncurses4-dev package from dists/stable/main/binary-i386/devel/ . HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: debian: wxgtk-2.1 broken
On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 01:33:29 +1000, Brendan Simon wrote: I managed to get the program to link by adding -lgtkmm -lgdkmm after the `wx-config --libs` argument. I'm not sure if this is a problem with the wxgtk-2.1 package or C librariy dependencies. What needs to be done to get this to work out of the box ? The library needs to be compiled with -lgtkmm -lgdkmm added to its link line (gcc -shared -o ...); please file a bug report. Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: hello, my friends
[please do not use HTML in email] On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 19:49:14 +0800, james tsang wrote: I found it in develop tools , thanks very much. and I post it here let other like me can find it. [1]http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandrake/cooker/cooker/Mandrake/RP MS/apache-devel-1.3.12-10mdk.i586.html For Debian, it's available in the apache-dev package. Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: Modem will not connect at 56k
On Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 02:59:18PM +0200, Chris Gielen wrote: So you are saying it is not posible to achieve higher rates then 33.6k with 2 x 56k connected to an analog phone line? That's what he's saying and he's correct too. -- Ray
Re: encrypted files system
On Thu, Apr 13, 2000 at 10:24:42 -0700, Michael O'Brien wrote: I would like to have a portion of my filesystem encrypted. Probably the easiest way is to build a kernel with encrypted filesystem support using the 'kernel-patch-int' package available from non-US. If you only need to encrypt part of a filesystem, the easiest way is to make a file as a filesystem using loopback mounting. HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: can't see truetype fonts using fslsfonts
On Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 08:13:12 +, john smith wrote: I have followed the debian mini howto on using xfstt but when I issue the command (in root) fslsfonts -server unix/:7101 the fonts should be displayed but it's not. nothing happens. any ideas? xfs-xtt seems to be preferred over xfstt. In any case, make sure you - add the path for the TrueType fonts to the xfs configuration - run 'mkttfdir' in that directory (it is in the fttools package) HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: UPPER to lowercase.
On Sun, Apr 02, 2000 at 17:13:33 +0200, Hans wrote: for x in *; do mv $x 'echo $x|tr [A-Z][a-z]'; done; Use for x in *; do mv $x `echo $x | tr '[A-Z][a-z]'`; done Note the backticks and the quoting of the square brackets (to prevent them from being interpreted by the shell as globbing patterns). Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: gnome mimetype and /etc/mailcap
On Sat, Apr 01, 2000 at 09:12:51 +1200, Hunter H Marshall wrote: My mutt claims no handler for image/jeg. There is no entry for image/jpeg in /etc/mailcap. ok. But gnome control center mimetypes has extensive mime.type/mailcap info and in particular has an eeyes entry for image/jpeg. This is a bug in eeyes; I've filed a bug report for it. Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: Corel WP: missing libXpm.so.4
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 18:20:59 +0200, Vitux wrote: ./xwp: can't load library 'libXpm.so.4' This must be in the mailing list archives. Install the xpm4.7 package from the oldlibs section of your friendly neigbourhood Debian mirror. HTH, Ray -- RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may not be a better one than the one the blocks live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: libc6-dev and libstdc++2.9-dev
On Tue, Mar 28, 2000 at 11:24:44 -0600, matthschulz wrote: When I try to install g++ with dselect then I get following dependancy problems: libc6-dev conflicts with libstdc++2.9-dev libstdc++2.9-dev depends on libc6-dev For potato, you need libstdc++2.10-dev rather than libstdc++2.9-dev. HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Debian
On Wed, Mar 22, 2000 at 12:06:43 -0800, Bart Friederichs wrote: I want real technical benefits. Of the top of my head: Open development (bug tracking system, mailing lists, IRC etc), high-quality packaging (no Red Hat style contrib) with proper dependencies, easily upgradable including running systems, window manager-agnostic automagically maintained menu system, automagically maintained /etc/mailcap, integrated documentation system (docbase + dwww), supports several non-x86 architectures. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: A little bad press about Debian
On Mon, Mar 20, 2000 at 18:32:46 -0800, Joey Hess wrote: Of course it's difficult to tell without any technical details, but my educated guess would be that the non-free binary-only software they tried to use was linked with -rpath, I second that guess. I've seen this before, once with the CDE product Red Hat redistributed, and once with a crossword puzzle generator built on Red Hat (which apparently in some releases used -rpath for X compiles by default). Of course, this problem is typically easily fixed once identified: just change the first character of the RPATH value in the binary to NULL. Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: LIBRARY_PATH shouldn't contain the current directory
On Tue, Mar 21, 2000 at 07:31:00 +0100, |{.f|. wrote:
checking LIBRARY_PATH variable... contains current directory
configure: error:
*** LIBRARY_PATH shouldn't contain the current directory when
*** building gcc. Please change the environment variable
*** and run configure again.
how to solve this problem?
unset LIBRARY_PATH; ./configure -v
HTH,
Ray
--
LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto-
destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch
it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own.
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: KDE (was Re: alternatives to gnotepad+)
On Sun, Mar 19, 2000 at 15:10:49 -0500, Bart Szyszka wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, KDE2 will be included in Debian's site because of all the licensing changes You are probably mistaken. While there is a license change in that KDE2 uses Qt2 which unlike Qt1 which KDE1 uses is free, the license under which Qt2 is licensed (the QPL) is incompatible with the license of most of KDE2 (the GPL). Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Promise Ultra 66
On Fri, Mar 17, 2000 at 21:32:35 -0800, Brian Lavender wrote: but it just flashes the characters 2FA: That's from the Master Boot Record program. I also tried booting with a floppy with IDE support, but it won't detect it either. The bootfloppies for Slink don't handle UDMA66. You need to use bootfloppies with a kernel on them that's patched for UDMA66 support (using the IDE patches from ftp.kernel.org:/pub/linux/kernel/people/hedrick/). I'm not sure if potato's bootfloppies (will) support UDMA66. HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: termcap.h wanted.
[Please use 80 character lines] On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 15:37:27 +0100, Martin Högman wrote: Basically, LAME needs termcap.h in order to compile, and debian utilizes terminfo. #includecurses.h instead and link -lncurses; it should be a drop-in replacement. HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Does Slink use libc5?
On Wed, Mar 15, 2000 at 22:27:49 +0100, Vitux wrote: It says Linux2.0(libc5). I'm running Slink, standard 2.0.36 krnl. Slink defaults to libc6, but can run libc5 applications using the libraries in the oldlibs section of the archive. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: WANPIPE X.25
On Mon, Mar 13, 2000 at 21:54:09 -0500, Brian White wrote: Is there anybody here using the Sangoma WANPIPE cards to do X.25? X.25 isn't particularly popular under Linux, but people do use it. Your best bet for information is probably the linux-x25@vger.rutgers.edu list. HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: PC wont shut power off after poweroff-command
On Sat, Mar 11, 2000 at 18:31:41 +0100, Klaus Drews wrote: Is there something to configure for it ? Yes. You need to run a kernel compiled with Advanced Power Management BIOS support. HTH, Ray -- ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old. I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking his name in vain. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: DBF Manipulation
On Tue, Mar 07, 2000 at 10:40:51 -0500, Paul Kallstrom wrote: I am looking for an application that will manipulate DBF files under Linux, The dbview package allows you to access dBase III and IV files; presumably it's not very difficult to base a converter to a modern database on it. HTH, Ray -- RUMOUR Believe all you hear. Your world may not be a better one than the one the blocks live in but it'll be a sight more vivid. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Applications missing from WindowMaker menus
On Tue, Feb 29, 2000 at 00:02:22 -0600, Brad wrote: i don't know about the other two, but DDD isn't in the WindowMaker menus for one very simple reason: it doesn't install a menu file into /usr/lib/menu. It seems I accidentally dropped the menu file in adapting to the beta releases for the current version. I'll fix this problem; hopefully the fixed version will be allowed into frozen. Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: Mutt, mailing lists, and senders
On Sat, Feb 26, 2000 at 13:40:48 +1100, Damon Muller wrote:
What I want is to be able to use the L key to reply, but not have the name
of the mailing list (leaving the name of the actually sender) in the
message list.
You need to change the setting of the 'index_format' variable. It defaults
to %4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15L (%4l) %s
^
+- list-from
whereas you seem to want
%4C %Z %{%b %d} %-15.15n (%4l) %s
^
+- author's real name (or address if missing)
See /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz under 6.3.59. index_format for
details on the format.
HTH,
Ray
--
PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose
between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would
have the decency to betray his country.
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Can't run Netscape 4.72 (linux2.2) from tarball
On Sat, Feb 26, 2000 at 10:57:10 -0500, S. Salman Ahmed wrote: netscape: error in loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Install the libstdc++2.9-glibc2.1 from the old-libs section. Netscape seems to make a habit of using old libraries when releasing new versions of its browser. HTH, Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: balsa locks cause crashes
On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 03:47:24 +0800, da Bobstopper wrote: why does balsa try to lock mailboxes To prevent corruption caused by multiple processes working on them simultaneously. This is necessary with unix mbox format mailboxes and MMDF mailboxes. HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: removed libc6, how to recover
On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 16:00:06 -0800, Michael Kevin O'Brien wrote: I'm not saying removing libc6 was a smart idea. I want to know what to do to get my machine back? I've got a boot floppy that I'm hoping works (it's at home and I'm at work as I type this). Assuming I can boot the machine, is it possible to recover to a point where I can install the latest version of libc6??? Assuming the .deb of libc6 is still on your system (in /var/cache/apt/archives/), you might try booting from your rescue disk, switch to VC2 where you have a shell, mount your regular filesystem(s) under /mnt and try something like dpkg-deb --x /mnt/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6*deb /mnt ldconfig -r /mnt and then try booting to it. If it works, install the .deb again, this time using dpkg, so that your package database becomes consistent again. HTH, Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: C++ dev environment advice
On Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 13:09:04 -0500, David Teague wrote: Please tell me if the SGI pages are accessible on line. http://www.sgi.com/Technology/STL/ HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: removed libc6, how to recover
On Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 11:52:44 -0800, Michael Kevin O'Brien wrote: How does one boot from the rescue disk? I stick the rescue disk in the drive, turn on the machine. At the rescue prompt: I'm unable to switch to vc2. rescue root=/dev/fd0 (w/ rescue floppy still in drive) does some work; get to a VFS: Insert root floppy and press ENTER Have you tried just pressing enter, as with the initial install? So, is there a way to actually get to a login shell using only the rescue disk??? If you follow the process for initial installation up to the point of getting the main menu (with the partition etc. options), VC 2 should be able to give you a shell. HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: reading rtf files
On Wed, Feb 09, 2000 at 13:15:15 +0100, E.L. Meijer Eric wrote: Outside debian, I found the Ted editor Ted is packaged, at least for potato, as ted. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: Ssh?
On Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 13:48:32 +0100, Wolfgang Gernot Bauer wrote: Can it be that there is no ssh-package in debian (frozen)? There is an SSH for frozen. Where would it be located...? ftp://nonUS.debian.org:/debian-non-US/dists/frozen/non-US/main/binary-i386/ssh_1.2.1pre24-1.deb HTH, Ray -- LEADERSHIP A form of self-preservation exhibited by people with auto- destructive imaginations in order to ensure that when it comes to the crunch it'll be someone else's bones which go crack and not their own. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: ISDN with Debian
On Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 11:51:22 +, Phillip Deackes wrote:
Can anyone explain how I set up Debian for ISDN
Install the isdnutils package, and configure it similar to the setup scripts
at ftp://ftp.cistron.nl/pub/cistron/linux/isdn/ .
Personally, I dislike having to become root for opening and closing ISDN
connections, so I've made a perl wrapper that does isdn-up:
-rwsr-xr--1 root dialout 506 Nov 6 12:45 /usr/local/bin/isdn-up
#! /usr/bin/perl -w
#
# isdn-up Force a dialout.
#
# Sanitize for security
$ENV{'PATH'} =
'/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin';
delete @ENV{'IFS', 'CDPATH', 'ENV', 'BASH_ENV'};
$DEVICE=ippp0;
$REMOTEMSN=8800999; # CistroN
system(ifconfig, $DEVICE, up);
system(isdnctrl, addphone, $DEVICE, out, $REMOTEMSN);
system(isdnctrl, dial, $DEVICE);
# Route should taken care of by /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/isdnutils...
#system(/sbin/route, add, default, $DEVICE);
isdn-down is similar, but does hangup and delphone of course.
HTH,
Ray
--
ART A friend of mine in Tulsa, Okla., when I was about eleven years old.
I'd be interested to hear from him. There are so many pseudos around taking
his name in vain.
- The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: STL ?
On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 10:31:35 -0500, Patrick Dahiroc wrote: is the STL built into gcc 2.9.x and/or egcs It's part of the same source; you can find it in the accompanying libstdc++ development package. HTH, Ray -- Tevens ben ik van mening dat Nederland overdekt dient te worden.
Re: Real Player???????
On Wed, Feb 02, 2000 at 12:14:31 -0600, Tom Warfield wrote: Is anyone using this? and if so how did you get it to work. I was thinking i could apt-get install it but i havent found any packages for it, does anyone know if there is and if so what is the name of the latest package? There is an installer package for it (dists/frozen/contrib/binary-i386/net/realplayer_6.0.0.99092901.11.deb). You need to download an RPM for the actual binaries; the installer packages tells you where to find it and will install it for you. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: DDD 3.1.99 expired
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 10:28:34 -0500, Arcady Genkin wrote: Whenever I'm running ddd, I get a dialog informing me that ``DDD version (3.1.99) has expired since Monday, 2000-01-31, at 00:00. Please upgrade to the recent version.'' What's up with that? 3.1.99 is a beta version, which has a purely informational expiry date. 3.2 has been released, and I've uploaded packages of it last Sunday, intended for both potato and woody. As we are in a code freeze uploads to potato need to be approved by the release manager before being installed into the archive. The release manager is out of town for a couple of days, so hopefully 3.2 will be approved and installed into the archive later this week. Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Fast Debian Potato Download
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 20:19:54 +, Ben Briggs wrote: Does anybody know where I can download Debian Potato in ISO format at an ultra-fast server? Nowhere. Potato is not released yet, and official CD images will be made once it is released. Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: compiling an old kernel
On Tue, Feb 01, 2000 at 21:38:09 +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: I didn't try it, but even early 2.2.x kernel had problems with egcs. It's the best if you install an old gcc (package altgcc). altgcc is for compiling libc5 binaries. You mean gcc272. Personally, I'm compiling my 2.2.x kernels with gcc 2.95.2, but I suspect there are still some configurations where that could cause problems. Ray -- UNFAIR Term applied to advantages enjoyed by other people which we tried to cheat them out of and didn't manage. See also DISHONESTY, SNEAKY, UNDERHAND and JUST LUCKY I GUESS. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: problem compiling licq's qt-gui
On Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 16:42:54 -0500, Jim B wrote: libstdc++, and libstdc++-dev. I had been downloading the .debs and using dpkg -i to install, and some of them were dependent upon *each other* so it was impossible to install that way. No it's not. Mutually dependent packages can be installed with dpkg -i if they're both provided in the same commandline. gcc -shared Always call g++ to link/compile C++ code, not gcc. ld: cannot open -lstdc++: No such file or directory Make sure you have libstdc++-dev installed, and check that /usr/lib/libstdc++.so is a symlink to an existing libstdc++*.so* file. HTH, Ray -- PATRIOTISM A great British writer once said that if he had to choose between betraying his country and betraying a friend he hoped he would have the decency to betray his country. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
Re: I thought KDE wasn't included because of QT?!?
On Thu, Dec 23, 1999 at 14:00:56 -0500, Brian Servis wrote: The KDE folks had/have no exception and thus were/are violating the GPL. Only if they're reusing other people's GPLed code, which reportedly they don't. Remember, an author isn't bound by the copyright license she puts on her own work, so it's not a case of the KDE project violating the GPL. The violation occurs when others distribute KDE binaries. HTH, Ray -- Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my messages, on a lightspeed mission to explore strange new systems and to boldly go where no data has gone before.
Re: Non-freeness
On Mon, Dec 20, 1999 at 16:15:51 +, Stuart Ballard wrote: Is there any way to get information about what makes a package non-free, Yes. Reading the license, and possibly the mailing list archives. Now, I thought that ssh (at least openSSH) was non-US/main - wasn't that kind of the point of using openSSH rather than what we had before? Yes. Potato's current ssh package is OpenSSH and is free. And dnsutils - why on earth should I need non-free software to query dns servers? dnsutils is built from the bind source, which contains non-free code from RSA labs dealing with secure DNS. I believe arrangements have been made with the ISC that will make / have made it possible for bind's source to go in main again. In other words, a very brief summary of the problem (with a reference to the license), a list of alternatives, and the possible problems you might encounter with each alternative. This would be a useful list to have - perhaps you've found your way to contribute to Debian? Ray -- Obsig: developing a new sig
Re: cooledit can't find library/compile from source?
On Thu, Dec 16, 1999 at 17:27:13 -0600, ktb wrote: This is the output when I try to run the program, /usr/local/cool_e/usr/bin$ ./cooledit ./cooledit: can't load library 'libCw.so.1' Hmm.. try 'objdump --all-headers /usr/local/cool_e/usr/bin/cooledit' ; if you see an 'RPATH' setting in there, you'll need to edit the binary and make the first character of that path a NUL character. Then try again. If it works then, the cause is that the binary you're using was hardwired to look in a certain path for its libraries. We've had problems like this in the past with e.g. Red Hat's CDE. HTH, Ray -- POPULATION EXPLOSION Unique in human experience, an event which happened yesterday but which everyone swears won't happen until tomorrow. - The Hipcrime Vocab by Chad C. Mulligan
