Re: Please help RTL 8029
Subject: Please help RTL 8029 Date: Fri, Mar 12, 1999 at 01:19:32PM +0100 In reply to:Piotr Perko Quoting Piotr Perko([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello, I'M LOOking for drivers for that Eternet device for Linux Slackware 2.0.34. Please help me - i don't know where i can find it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Piotter. THX In the kernel! ne2k-pci.c:v0.99L 2/7/98 D. Becker/P. Gortmaker http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/ne2k-pci.html ne2k-pci.c: PCI NE2000 clone 'RealTek RTL-8029' at I/O 0x6200, IRQ 9. eth0: PCI NE2000 found at 0x6200, IRQ 9, 00:40:05:3D:34:51. -- Every program has at least one bug and can be shortened by at least one instruction -- from which, by induction, one can deduce that every program can be reduced to one instruction which doesn't work. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel 2.2.3
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2.3 Date: Sat, Mar 13, 1999 at 02:01:13AM -0600 In reply to:steven walsh Quoting steven walsh([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Fri, 12 Mar 1999, Ed Cogburn wrote: [snip] If you have 2.2.1 and successfully add the 2.2.2 and 2.2.3 patches, then the end product *is* 2.2.3. Just tar it up yourself and name it as 2.2.3 tgz. Details, details. :) See you on the flip side - Steve Walsh (EfNet:#Babylon5:KnaraKat) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) The Linux Kernel HOWTO in the howto directory! -- The best book on programming for the layman is Alice in Wonderland; but that's because it's the best book on anything for the layman. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Netscape Install
Subject: Netscape Install Date: Wed, Mar 10, 1999 at 04:28:45PM -0800 In reply to:Rob Pratt Quoting Rob Pratt([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello. Excuse the newbie question, but I'm having a tough time getting the ns-install script to run to install Netscape on a 486 machine. The version I'm using is 4.51 for Linux 2.0 (supported). The readme says simply to run the script -- and voila, it installs. However, when I try to run the script, I get the error ns-install: not found even though I can see it in the directory where I'm trying to run it. Also, I've tried the manual install instructions (copying files, running a couple of gzips, etc.) with no success. Can someone provide a couple of steps or point to a script that does work? Rob Pratt at the prompt do ./ns-install -- You can't make a program without broken egos. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fetchmail
Subject: Re: fetchmail Date: Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 10:28:33PM +1100 In reply to:Shao Zhang Quoting Shao Zhang([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Sorry, I did not describe what I want very clear. What I need is to leave them as Unread on the pop3 server. I retrieve them from pop3 at work, I want those mails still set to unread when I retrieve them for the second time, I still know what are the new messages I checked earlier at work. I guess I am trying to get it working more similar to an IMAP server. thx man fetchmail says -k -- Real programmers don't write in FORTRAN. FORTRAN is for pipe stress freaks and crystallography weenies. FORTRAN is for wimp engineers who wear white socks. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipmasqadm question
Subject: ipmasqadm question Date: Thu, Mar 04, 1999 at 01:25:07PM -0600 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello all, I seem to be lost on this issue, but here goes. I am running a mostly slink system with a 2.2.1 kernel. How do I enable port forwarding with this setup? I have the kernel built correctly, (I believe), so I am not concerned in that area. My question has to do with the tool(s) used to manage the port forwarding. It looks like the ipportfw tool only works with a kernel 2.1.90. I have read that the tool I am looking for is called ipmasqadm, found at: http://juanjox.linuxhq.com/ I have found the RH RPM at this site, along with the source code for this tool. My first try at compiling and installing was unsuccessful. (I have not put too much effort into this approach yet). GREAT Firewall/masquerading INFO Site http://rlz.ne.mediaone.net/linux/firewall/ -- | LINUX - Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste..on WinDoze | ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Print command
Subject: Print command Date: Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 12:54:20AM -0500 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Could anyone tell a newbie the command to print a text file or a man page item, like a file named vi.1.gz on a dot matrix printer? I have installed the 'base' system from D/Led floppies (used the 'rescue' disk and installed the drivers disk and the five 'base' disks). During the install, I did install the 'lp' module for the parallel ports. At this point, the 'man' program is either not available or not on the disk. I have been reading some of the man pages using zmore but I don't know how to print or do very much else. I don't have any docs except for what was installed. I'm having a very rough time trying learn how to do things in Debian, I'm good in DOS and Win95 but just beginning to learn Linux. Apparently I have a lot to read and learn before I can get my install to the point I can log onto the web and upgrade to a full system. The few commands I can use I have learned by reading this ng. So far Debian seems to be a great OS with a lot more power than anything I've used in the past, including OS/2 Warp. But the docs are difficult to find and read for a newbie that doesn't have any Unix experience. You could say that Debian is my Unix experience. Is there a list of basic commands for navigation and operations available on the web? The Howto pages are great for an in depth explanation of lilo and fips but get a little bit tedious when all I want to do is look at the current fstab or ppp.conf or list a dir. Also, using the 'ls' command, man6 dir doesn't exist and man7 is empty. Is this normal? A Debian geek wannabe is anxious to learn. Thank you. 1. Look for a directory called howto. (find / -type d -iname howto) 2. Look at Printing-HOWTO, Printing-Usage-howto. 3. If you haven't yet downloaded the magicfilter package, do. 4. If you have not yet downloaded the a2ps package, do. 5. Grin as you print out whatever you want. HTH -- Real Users find the one combination of bizarre input values that shuts down the system for days. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Using Procmail - mail won't deliver to Default
Subject: Using Procmail - mail won't deliver to Default Date: Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 06:14:13AM -0600 In reply to:Lance Hoffmeyer Quoting Lance Hoffmeyer([EMAIL PROTECTED]): in .procmailrc SHELL = /bin/sh MAILDIR =$HOME/Mail LOGFILE =$HOME/_logfile VERBOSE = yes LOGABSTRACT = no PATH = /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/bin/mh DEFAULT=Inbox #ORGMAIL=/var/spool/mail/$LOGNAME but mail does not go to Inbox. I have also tried DEFAULT /$HOME/Mail/Inbox and #Default I am getting the _logfile so what have I got wrong in the syntax to prevent me from getting mail in /$HOME/Mail/Inbox. There is an Inbox in /Mail. Lance The answer to the above can be found in man procmailrc. Reading the man pages answers 50%i, or more, of questions people post to mailing lists and newsgroups. In says past asking questions like the above would have received the response RTFM. Times are changing, some. -- The Softwære said Windows 95 or better, so I dumped Win95 loaded LINUX. I have not looked back since. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please HELP ME AGAIN!!!
Subject: Please HELP ME AGAIN!!! Date: Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 01:13:31AM -0800 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Please Help me again! Thanks for helping me with mounting, but now I would like to ask you another thing. How can I setup my sound card(Sound Blaster 16)? I have heard something about make menuconfig make config but this doesn't work in my computer. A error message appears saying no target to make rule config. How can I solve this problem. I have heard something about compiling the kernel, how? Thanks again! #1 requirement for a Linux newbie. Read the DOC's! In this case The Linux Kernel HOWTO. Some research on your part might save you some embarrassment and lead to more people responding to message subjects that indicate you have not tried to help yourself, first. -- Using TSO is like kicking a dead whale down the beach. -- S. C. Johnson ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: potato -heyho! message?
Subject: potato -heyho! message? Date: Fri, Mar 05, 1999 at 04:43:28PM +0900 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I upgraded from hamm to potato yesterday without any trouble, however after the upgrade was completed, I noticed a strange problem. I had several Eterms open when the message heyho! (followed by a newline character) started to be repeatedly printed on one of them. The keyboard did not seem to have any effect (even CTRL-C) and the only way to stop the message from being repeated was to close the Eterm window. That was the second time that this problem occurred. The first time I didn't take much notice of it, so I'm not sure whether it appeared on an xterm or an Eterm. The second time, the problem occurred, I tried ps -a on another terminal while the message was being printed, but I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. Has anybody else experienced this? Does anyone know what it is? Anthony I can offer a thought. Did you load any packages to use X10 devices? Maybe xtend? If so there is a package called 'heyu' which is used to talk to an X10 controller. That 'might' be what you are seeing. HTH -- A LISP programmer knows the value of everything, but the cost of nothing. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Qmail to Exim woes
OK, it's my turn. Yes I RTFM's. First the date. My local network is mtntop.home, my user name is wtopa (of course), my address for the net should be [EMAIL PROTECTED] I decided that if exim was the prefered Debian MTA I would switch to it. Well after 3 days I have finally got it te accept mail from the net but I still can't send any ( I'm on Slackware (qmail) now). If I follow the eximconfig instructions, option 2. I get the following qualify_domain = ix.netcom.com local_domains = ix.netcom.com and the correct smarthost section. No mail is received with the above. Fetchmail won't get the mail and replies with something like can't accept mail to localhost, no wtopa @ localhost. Based on that message I changed some of what the script configured I changed qualify_domain = mtntop.home local_domains = localhost I left the smarthost line alone. Result: I can now receive mail. I still can't send mail so I added to REWRITE CONFIGURATION [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] frs (As per a post to this list) Attempts to send mail give the following log entries: [EMAIL PROTECTED] routing defer (-32): retry time not reached 1999-03-05 11:56:55 10Ixsz-JN-00 == debian-user@lists.debian.org routing defer (-32): retry time not reached 1999-03-05 11:55:41 10Ixsz-JN-00 = [EMAIL PROTECTED] U=wtopa P=local S=847 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11:55:41 10Ixsz-JN-00 == debian-user@lists.debian.org R=smarthost defer (-1): These log entries were after an exim -q as root. I did not try using eximon to send these, maybe I should have, but they should send without it anyway. Things I tried but that didn't work. I tried local_hosts = mtntop.home as also suggested but after going tru all the docs can not find any reference to that so removed it. So my questions are : Is the eximconfig script setting exim up for anyone else? What is required to send mail with this beast? I have removed the 30m from the init.d/exim scripts as I cron for mail twice an hour, is this OK? Any suggestions or flames appreciated. TIA Wayne -- Real computer scientists despise the idea of actual hardware. Hardware has limitations, software doesn't. It's a real shame that Turing machines are so poor at I/O. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED: samba 2.0 troubles (mostly)
Subject: SOLVED: samba 2.0 troubles (mostly) Date: Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 06:11:35PM -0500 In reply to:Daniel J. Brosemer Quoting Daniel J. Brosemer([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm having problems with samba 2.0 (the .deb in potato) that I was hoping someone could help me with. My win95 box cannot be seen by smbclient, and my linux box cannot be seen by my win95 box. Both can ping each other, however, so I don't think it's an ether problem. #1 RTFM samba-2.0.2/source/web/diagnose.c !!! This looks useful, I'll spend the time to find out how it wants to be compiled sometime. Shhh, boy did I screw up! It was supposed to say DIAGNOSE.TXT! Sorry!!! Cay you ping the Linux box from Win95 using both the IP address and the machine name? If not check win95 hosts lmhosts. Check Linux /etc/hosts. I did not have entries in the hosts/lmhosts for the respective machines, and adding them fixed the problem of 'smbclient -L 192.168.1.30' dieing, though I still don't understand why, since I was using an IP address, but no matter as it works now. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~]$ smbclient -N -L localhost I connect with smbclient '\\win\WINC' -N Yes, what I was attempting to do was list shares on the win95 box. The similar command did not work before, either, though. Why is my samba box not the master? (I've got my smb.conf attached later) btw, FRIGG isn't a printer, but I would like to have it serve a printer which explains the Comment field. This is all explained in the docs! To have your Linux box be the master put this in [ global ] os level = 33 The docs say that an os level of 33 forces the Linux box to be the master. Well that USED to be the case anyway. I am using my old smb.conf. from 1.9.10 and it works the same in 2.0.2. Maybe I should RTFM on 2.0.2 myself. Still does not work, I eventually got it to be master, but not with this line which appeared to have no effect. I had been going through the BROWSING.txt file and removing and adding many things from smb.conf as experiments but to no avail, it just so happened that my os level = line was commented out when I pasted non-comment lines into the message. I always read docs before posting questions, and have been trying to figure this out for over a week. Please give people the benefit of the doubt before exclaiming that everything they need is in the docs. Sorry but it seems like a lot of people don't. I have never seen the smbclient done like you had it thought THAT was the real problem. As it was so different, I thought you might not have read the docs. After reading the doc's let us know what you had to do to get it up, OK. I gave it one last stab after the small success with your /etc/hosts suggestion I figured there were more resolution problems, and so I bit the bullet and enabled the builtin WINS server in samba, pointed the win95 box at it, and all appears to work. I don't like this because I think there should be a better way, but in the meantime, I'll use this as it appears to work. Yes that would bother me to. It looks like you are close now tho. A few more tweaks and you will have it. Good luck! Thanks for reporting back. And I apologize for the tone of my first reply. Thank you both very much. Your help is appreciated. -Dano Your very welcome. Wish I could have been of more help. Wayne -- You can measure a programmer's perspective by noting his attitude on the continuing viability of FORTRAN. -- Alan Perlis ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Kills Disks
Subject: Re: Debian Kills Disks Date: Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 03:57:44PM -0700 In reply to:Bob Nielsen Quoting Bob Nielsen([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Floppies are getting even worse. They are not reliable but we can't all get a zip or LS120. Debian doesn't overwork them, they just fail. I bought 100 new Fuji floppies and 15 out of 100 would not even format, on Win95 or Linux! I wonder what the track record for zip and LS120 disks is. Even Debian is refusing to install properly on it, the last semi successful install attempt resulted in a Read Only partial install that won't boot from the hard disk and a floppy boot won't access the hard disk. I believe that Debian has signed the boot partition in some way to make the disk(s) unusable. In other words, a software flag or partition id was written to the disk in a way that was not completely correct. How can I correct this? Is there a Hex editor I could use to clear the boot sector of the disk so a new install would work correctly? I would go to http://toms.net/tomsrtbt and get his 1 floppy Linux system. With it you will be able to look at the HD and might be able to figure what went west. This requires a floppy formatted at 1.7 MB, which will challenge many floppies which format successfully at 1.44 MB (Linux or DOS). I went through five good floppies before I could install it. Bob It only took me 3 of the Fuji's Bob. But I have had no trouble using 'his' fdformat program. Now superformat is yet another story. Wayne -- At the source of every error which is blamed on the computer you will find at least two human errors, including the error of blaming it on the computer. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP-aliasing
Subject: IP-aliasing Date: Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 06:05:07PM -0600 In reply to:Ian Keith Setford Quoting Ian Keith Setford([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have a one gateway with a 3c905b (Boomerang) running 2.2.2 just fine. When I use ifconfig to alias an ip it works no problem. On a different machine, an HP Vectra, with a 3c905b? (Cyclone) and the IP-aliasing works only with 2.0 kernels. Weird. I have compiled 2.2.2 for this Vectra 6 times with variuos kernel configs to try and narrow the problem. No luck. Then I copied my .config from the Gateway and compiled, no go. I also just copied the kernel image to the Vectra, no go. Kernel 2.2.x no longer uses ipfwadm. It now uses ipchains. Check http://rlz.ne.mediaone.net/linux/firewall/ for some great info and also an interactive pgm to help you set up your filewall forwarding. the ipchains homesite is, IIRC rustcorp.com.au. Anyone have an idea why it would work on one machine and not another? I haven't swapped the NIC's because my box is the Gateway and I don't want to lose my stability. Selfish I guess. Anyways, does anyone have a suggestion? Thanks in advance! -Ian HTH -- Weinberg's Second Law: If builders built buildings the way programmers wrote programs, then the first woodpecker that came along would destroy civilization. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: modem user
Subject: modem user Date: Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 04:40:38PM -0600 In reply to:Fethi A. Okyar Quoting Fethi A. Okyar([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, The last thing I expected to have problems with during my recent hamm installation (2.0.34) was with the modem, but guess what? I spent a couple hours for the configuration, and figuring which jumper switches to use, my modem is using ttyS3. By the way does anybody think it would be easier to use the PnP mode, rather than hardwiring to COM3,IRQ4 ? The problem I'm having right now, is I can only run programs such as minicom or seyon, when I have root privilages ! I tried creating a symbolic link to /dev/ttyS3, called it /dev/modem, and even when I used this ordinary users still cannot access the modem. Help will greatly be appreciated ! Did you check permissions on /dev/ttyS3... Whoa ttyS3 isn't COM 3 its COM4. COM 1 3 use IRQ 4 ( ttyS0 ttyS2) COM 2 4 use IRQ 3 ( ttyS1 ttyS3) Fet Research Assistant MMAE Dept. IIT HTH -- Bringing computers into the home won't change either one, but may revitalize the corner saloon. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOLVED: samba 2.0 troubles (mostly)
Subject: Re: SOLVED: samba 2.0 troubles (mostly) Date: Mon, Mar 01, 1999 at 08:23:11PM -0500 In reply to:Daniel J. Brosemer Quoting Daniel J. Brosemer([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Mon, 1 Mar 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to:Daniel J. Brosemer Quoting Daniel J. Brosemer([EMAIL PROTECTED]): This looks useful, I'll spend the time to find out how it wants to be compiled sometime. Shhh, boy did I screw up! It was supposed to say DIAGNOSE.TXT! Sorry!!! LOL, it's okay, have a look at what I just found has been staring me in the face! man smbclient SYNOPSIS smbclient servicename ... [-L NetBIOS name] ... Hmm, and I don't use that syntax but do connect. I think I do have to get back to reading all those TXT files! Well, the docs still claim that this is the case, though from personal experience I can tell you that it's obviously not that simple. I'll be sure and post when I figure out exactly the problem. Maybe we could benefit from a Samba Quick-Start and FAQ if there isn't one. I'll look, and if not, I'll start one when I figure this thing out. I found the SMB-HOWTO but I doubt it is worth the bother. Dated 10 August 1996 No harm done, sorry if I misunderstood. Thanks again. -Dano Thanks Wayne -- Real Time, adj.: Here and now, as opposed to fake time, which only occurs there and then. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to set up the delete key under X Window ?
Subject: how to set up the delete key under X Window ? Date: Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 03:30:50AM +0100 In reply to:Jan Krupa Quoting Jan Krupa([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Under X Window backspace works in the standard way but delete works exactly the same way as backspace. How can I achieve the key delete working under X Window in all applications (e.g. xterm, emacs, mathematica, netscape, vim,..) in the standard way (erasing the sign after cursor not before, like backspace does) ? Well I had a fix til I reread the above. I have a fix that works for me but sightly different . My delete erases the character the cursor is on. My Backspace erases the character before the cursor. Well anyway here is what I have im my ~/.Xmodmap keycode 22 = BackSpace keycode 107 = Delete HTH -- Documentation is the castor oil of programming. Managers know it must be good because the programmers hate it so much. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: still have browser trouble
Subject: Re: still have browser trouble Date: Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 09:15:59AM -0600 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Installed Debian 2.0 from CD and everything worked. Decided to add space on hard disk but then several reinstalls all led to same browser problems.Browsers arena and gzilla, which worked before, now give error messages. Chimera2 still seems to work, but when used to download netscape communicator, something is wrong with the downloaded file. The file shows up in ls , gunzip says no such file or directory.Have downloaded netscape several times from different sites. Sorry, I may have missed the early post. What error messages you get? As for netscape-communicator-*.tar.g make sure you are typing the right file name, file is not a symbolic link, etc. These things might happen. Tried variations of XF86Setup, no help. Have new IBM Aptiva with pro rage card, not listed in XF86Setup, so used generic VGA card. You might want to look up earlier versions of ProRage, see if they are in the card library. This might help you to get more out of the X in terms of resolution and color depth. Also, use SVGA xserver, at least. I have tried both gunzip xxx.tar.gz and gunzip ./xxx.tar.gz, neither works. Ok, try this instead. In the dir. where you have netscape-communicator file (make sure it's not /tmp yet, or you might lose the file whenever you logout), type gunzip and then first 3-4 characters of the file name. Then hit TAB. If you don't have any other file names starting with those characters, it will display the ful file name. Easy way to avoid typos. And if still no go, try tar vtf xxx.tar.gz. It might have been gunzipped when it was downloaded. HTH, Andrew --- Andrei S. Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] UIN 12402354 http://members.tripod.com/AnSIv --Little things for Linux. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- The best book on programming for the layman is Alice in Wonderland; but that's because it's the best book on anything for the layman. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IRC and BitchX newbie -- how to get started?
Subject: Re: IRC and BitchX newbie -- how to get started? Date: Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 01:33:29PM +0100 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Mark Phillips dixit: I've just installed BitchX because I want to join in on the Slink release IRC party thingy. Unfortunately I have never used IRC, let alone BitchX before, and I'm really not sure how to get started. I tried man bitchx, and also looked in /usr/doc/bitchx, but it seems this documentation is for people who already have a basic idea about what's going on. Can anyone point me to an introductory HOWTO or some similar such thing. Well as a (never have used IRC) newbie I looked for the HOWTO's myself. /usr/doc/bitch had some but I found that /usr/lib/bitchx had much more. ( you have learned how to use locate, right?). The files in /usr/lib/bitchx/help (hamm), were enough to let me get on and use the system. There is much more reading to do but the info does seem to be there for those that look. If you get any answer in private, could you let me know, please? I used irc long ago with doze and telnet, but bitchx (or xbitchx) doesn't look like that at all. TIA Horacio. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Basic, n.: A programming language. Related to certain social diseases in that those who have it will not admit it in polite company. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Connection timed out Incorrect MD5Sum
Subject: Connection timed out Incorrect MD5Sum Date: Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 09:55:10AM -0600 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): When using apt-get at: http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ why do I get the following errors repeatedly on the same packages? 1) Connection timed out 2) Incorrect MD5Sum What is the proper thing to do about a situation like this? Should I report it and if so, where? Should I use an alternate http site. The list of mirror sites does not list any alternate http sites. I tried a couple ftp sites and kept getting Couldn't locate an archive source for package When I get this I switch sites in sources.list. Fixes it for me. Many reasons for it, site could be updating files etc. Thanks for the help. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Real software engineers work from 9 to 5, because that is the way the job is described in the formal spec. Working late would feel like using an undocumented external procedure. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian 2.1-Party: when?
Subject: Re: Debian 2.1-Party: when? Date: Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 12:02:25PM -0600 In reply to:ktb Quoting ktb([EMAIL PROTECTED]): It already happened, yesterday. Sorry, Kent Just read a thread on devel that there are some release critical bugs and the Release has been put back to Mar 9. Wolfgang Gernot Bauer wrote: Hi, I read in slashdot.org that there will be a party, celebrating Debian2.1. Just wondering why slashdot is faster than this list. So when and where will it happen (GMT, please). Tonight? Gery -- - Wolfgang Bauer SKWB Schoellerbank Aktiengesellschaft Sterneckstr. 5, 5024 Salzburg, Austria - Phone: ++43-662-8684-364 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft does have a year 2000 problem - we're it. -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- The day-to-day travails of the IBM programmer are so amusing to most of us who are fortunate enough never to have been one -- like watching Charlie Chaplin trying to cook a shoe. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SuperDisk
Subject: SuperDisk Date: Tue, Mar 02, 1999 at 10:43:55AM -0800 In reply to:Sidney Brooks Quoting Sidney Brooks([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Is there a place to get a linux driver for SuperDisk (imation)? In the 2.2.2 Kernel? grep -i superdisk /usr/src/linux/Doc*/* /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Configure.help: MicroSolutions backpack PD/CD drive and the Imation Superdisk /usr/src/linux/Documentation/paride.txt:Imation Superdisk pf epat /usr/src/linux/Documentation/paride.txt:Imation Superdisk LS-120 /usr/src/linux/Documentation/paride.txt:Imation Superdisk connected to port 0x278. You could give the following HTH _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Real software engineers don't debug programs, they verify correctness. This process doesn't necessarily involve execution of anything on a computer, except perhaps a Correctness Verification Aid package. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Date Problems
Subject: Date Problems Date: Wed, Jul 07, 2004 at 01:10:08AM -0500 In reply to:D Richards Quoting D Richards([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello I've just reinstalled debian hamm on my new 2.5 gig HD with no problems. Except I can't seem to understand the correct syntax for setting my system date and time using 'date'. Can anyone give me an example with an explanation TIA Duane Richards man date, man clock, man hwclock. Clock-HOWTO -- Real Programmers don't write in PL/I. PL/I is for programmers who can't decide whether to write in COBOL or FORTRAN. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting X-Windows to recognize Truetype fonts...
Subject: Getting X-Windows to recognize Truetype fonts... Date: Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 05:29:44PM -0600 In reply to:rich Quoting rich([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Howdy all, I'm having trouble getting Netscape and Wordperfect to recognize my TTFs... I've installed xfstt (it's loaded during boot-up), but when I do a xlsfonts | grep ttf I get nothing... I've also done ln -s /dos_c/windows/fonts /usr/share/fonts/truetype/winfonts as per xfstt documentation... I know that I'm probably supposed to add the line xset fp+ unix/:7101 to my xinitrc (?), but that doesn't do anything any ideas? Thanks in advance, Rich I spent an hour last night finally got it working correctly after trying a number of different methods. In the end this worked best, for me. Created a file with the following in it. xfstt --sync xfstt --res 120 xset fp+ inet/127.0.0.1:7100 NOTE: xfstt looks for the fonts, by default, in /usr/ttfonts. Thats where mine are. If yours are elsewhere you have to symlink. The xset fp+ inet/127.0.0.1:7100 works where th unin/:7100 didn't. Now whenever I want ttf I just run that little file. That was at 2AM so haven't done anything else since then. HTH -- Nobody said computers were going to be polite. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help
Subject: Help Date: Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 08:56:25AM + In reply to:Pat Neumann Quoting Pat Neumann([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi I am new to Linux, and am learning fairly quick. But I am having problems getting my Xserver to work at a higher color depth then 8. If I try and remove that particular setting in the XF86Config file then it tells me that it cannot find the 8 bpp color setting and there for am unable to start X. try using this to start the Xserver startx -- -bpp 16 Also is there a way to save screen size I.E. so that every time I start Netscape I do not have to rezie it to fit the window. I am using FWM95 as my x manager. I find it annoying to have to resize the windows every time I start X and Netscape. You can change the /etc/X11/XF86Config. in XF86Config Section Screen SubSection Display Depth16 Modes1280x1024 1152x864 1024x768 800x600 640x480 just arrange the modes to your wish HTH -- Hardware, n.: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help
Subject: Re: Help Date: Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 06:12:21PM -0600 In reply to:Andrei Ivanov Quoting Andrei Ivanov([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi I am new to Linux, and am learning fairly quick. But I am having problems getting my Xserver to work at a higher color depth then 8. If I try and remove that particular setting in the XF86Config file then it tells me that it cannot find the 8 bpp color setting and there for am unable to start X. to start it with 16bpp use startx -- -bpp 16 Also is there a way to save screen size I.E. so that every time I start Netscape I do not have to rezie it to fit the window. I am using FWM95 as my x manager. I find it annoying to have to resize the windows every time I start X and Netscape. Most applications allow you to specify the size which they take upon the startup. Like, if you call xterm -geometry 80x40 it will produce xterm window of size 80x40. Same with emacs, etc. I don't know the way it's done in FWM95, but in AfterStep I can edit a wharf file (wharf is the controller for AS on my computer) so that when I click on an icon it will give me an emacs window of specific size. I'm sure there is a way to do that in FWM as well. The other way would be to change the /etc/X11/Xresources file and put in a string at the end like: Netscape*Size: 120x50 I am not sure about the exact syntax, I'm deriving this from the way I initialize fonts for Netscape through Xresources, but try it out. In your .fvwmrc. This is from .fvwm95rc Exec rxvt -name Mail -T Mail -font 10x20 -geometry 100x37 -e mutt -y Exec Netscape netscape -geometry 920x622+90+5 ' or in .xinit (to start programs at at startup) This is in my .xinitrc xsetroot -cursor_name gumby xlnet -geometry +213+725 xnet pppload -geometry +4+649 xosview -geometry +2+775 BTW this info IS in the man pages doc's. Hint. -- Old programmers never die. They just branch to a new address. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help
Subject: Help Date: Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 08:56:25AM + In reply to:Pat Neumann Quoting Pat Neumann([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi I am new to Linux, and am learning fairly quick. But I am having problems getting my Xserver to work at a higher color depth then 8. If I try and remove that particular setting in the XF86Config file then it tells me that it cannot find the 8 bpp color setting and there for am unable to start X. Also is there a way to save screen size I.E. so that every time I start Netscape I do not have to rezie it to fit the window. I am using FWM95 as my x manager. I find it annoying to have to resize the windows every time I start X and Netscape. I think there must be a way to save such setting for the desktop simular to what windows does. Thnks Pat' One other item that might help /use/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ. -- Real Users hate Real Programmers. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problems with my HD
Subject: Problems with my HD Date: Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 03:59:15PM -0600 In reply to:Larry Shields WD9ESU Quoting Larry Shields WD9ESU([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello everyone, I used Fdisk which showed me this below, and would like to know if someone can tell me what cause's this type of a problem, and how to eliminate it from happening again... Larry As a good ham you have read the ARRL docs on this, right? (Grin) From fdisk.README The simplest commands are Print, Verify, and Quit. On a small disk, the Print command might produce a display like this one: Disk /dev/hda: 5 heads, 17 sectors, 977 cylinders Units = cylinders of 85 * 512 bytes Device Boot Begin Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 1 236 10021+ 1 DOS 12-bit FAT /dev/hda2 837 837 9775992+ 5 Extended /dev/hda3 * 237 237 836 25500 83 Linux native /dev/hda5 837 837 9364249+ 82 Linux swap /dev/hda6 942 942 97715221 DOS 12-bit FAT There are 5 partitions reported; `/dev/hda4' does not appear because it is not allocated. Partitions 1 and 3 are flagged as bootable. The size of each partition is reported in 1 kilobyte blocks; hence the primary Linux partition, partition 3, is 25 1/2 megabytes in size. ** The `+' after three of the sizes warns that these partitions contain an odd number of sectors: Linux normally allocates filespace in 1 kilobyte blocks, so the extra sector in partition 5 is wasted. Id numbers are reported in hexadecimal and explained in English. My HD is a Western Digital 6.4gb drive... /dev/hda: 784 cyls, 255 heads, 63 sectors units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes deviceBootBeginstartEndBlocksIDSystem /dev/hda1 *1117 131323+ 6 Dos16-bit=32M Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary: phys = (16,89,63) should be (16,254,63) It is telling you thet you ended the partition at 23 and fdisk wants you to end it at 16 or 89 or 63. It takes some time but you can enter them such that you don't get those pesky '+'. HTH Wayne WA1BBB -- Basic, n.: A programming language. Related to certain social diseases in that those who have it will not admit it in polite company. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: samba 2.0 troubles
Subject: samba 2.0 troubles Date: Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 05:27:12PM -0500 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm having problems with samba 2.0 (the .deb in potato) that I was hoping someone could help me with. My win95 box cannot be seen by smbclient, and my linux box cannot be seen by my win95 box. Both can ping each other, however, so I don't think it's an ether problem. #1 RTFM samba-2.0.2/source/web/diagnose.c !!! Cay you ping the Linux box from Win95 using both the IP address and the machine name? If not check win95 hosts lmhosts. Check Linux /etc/hosts. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:[~]$ smbclient -N -L localhost I connect with smbclient '\\win\WINC' -N win is defined in W95 lmhosts, hosts and linux hosts as 192.168.1.2 win.homewin 192.168.1.1 mtntop.home mtntop Why is my samba box not the master? (I've got my smb.conf attached later) btw, FRIGG isn't a printer, but I would like to have it serve a printer which explains the Comment field. This is all explained in the docs! To have your Linux box be the master put this in [ global ] os level = 33 After reading the doc's let us know what you had to do to get it up, OK. HTH -- The day-to-day travails of the IBM programmer are so amusing to most of us who are fortunate enough never to have been one -- like watching Charlie Chaplin trying to cook a shoe. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Mitsumi FX001D CD-ROM drv. Need help...
Subject: Fw: Mitsumi FX001D CD-ROM drv. Need help... Date: Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 05:56:02PM -0600 In reply to:Larry Shields WD9ESU Quoting Larry Shields WD9ESU([EMAIL PROTECTED]): This is my second request for HELP! with a FX001D Mitsumi CD-ROM drive, mabe this time I will catch the right person or users that can help me out here... I am hopeing that someone that also has a CD-ROM drive the FX001D can help me out here, in configuring the cd-rom drive, so that when at bootup it will be mounted... If I boot right from the linux floppy disk, when it gets to the point of mounting my CD-ROM drive I get this: MCD=0X360,11: init Failed. No mcd device at 0x360 irq 11 But if I let the system boot up using MSDOS, it then loads everything encluding my cd-rom drive, then once I get the msdos prompt, I insert the Bootable linux disk into the floppy drive, and do a soft reboot CTRL-ALT-DEL and then it boots up using the Linux floppy... When it gets to the point of loading of the cd-rom drive it then loads in and shows this: MCD=0X360,11: Mitsumi Status type and version: 10 D 2 Double Speed CD ROM Does this mean that when I am asked when installing Debian Modules select Category for cdrom driversthat when it shows the different types like sony, etc, and mcd or MCDX, that it is looking for mcd=0x360,11 10 D 2??? With this info how can I have it mounted upon booting up Linux, in the FSTAB file, meaning the correct way to type it in fro a MCD type CDROM drive... I have printed out HOW-TO CDROM and it is listed as this for my CD-ROM drive... Loadable module support: YES Device: /dev/mcd, major 23 Configuration file: mcd.h Kernel Config option: Standard Mitsumi CDROM Support ? README file: MCDThis file I have not found This driver accepts a kernel command line of the form: mcd=ip-address, irq This I allready know what the I/O and IRQ is mcd=0x360,11 but it is needing something else for it to work right... Here is what the cdrom howto mentioned.. Specifying the I/O base address of the card 0x340 and the irq request number used. The device file can be created using: # mknod /dev/mcd b 23 0I have done this and it says that it allready exists, this is because I booted up from dos, then did an CTRL-ALT-DEL and then it was mounted upon booting up from my linux boot disk... I would like any info on how to do it correctly so that when I boot directly from my bootdisk that the cdrom drive will work... Also I would like someone to show me the correct way of editing my FSTAB file using the /dev/mcd since I have tried three different ways and have had no luck in doing so... Larry Sorry but I am a bit confused by the above. I will try to answer what I 'Think' you are asking. /dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 user,noauto,ro,conv=binary 0 0 This mounts my cdrom, not on bootup, when I do mount /cdrom. I have made a dir in / called /cdrom. (mkdir /cdrom). To have it mount at bootup just remove the noauto from the above example. Now I haven't done the mcd thingy in years so this might be a bit off. make a link from /dev/cdrom to /dev/mcd. ls -s /dev/cdrom /dev/mcd. Now you just refer to /dev/cdrom and forget about mcd. The above confused me because I _think_ you are saying that the CD is seen by the kernel. If not, then you have to redo the kernel config and select it. If I am out in left field, sorry. Let me know if I misunderstood something. HTH Wayne WA1BBB -- What this country needs is a good five cent microcomputer. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian Kills Disks
Subject: Debian Kills Disks Date: Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 06:39:39PM -0500 In reply to:Jerry Human Quoting Jerry Human([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello Debian Geeks: Before you get upset let me declare that I'm a Linux/Debian newbie geek wannabe. I've only recently (a month ago) became interested in Linux. I've spent most of the time reading everything I could find. I have Good! d/led a few distros to get a feel of Linux. I have two computers, a 486DX50 VLB and a 386DX40. The 486 is running PC DOS 7.0 and Win95, 40x CD and SB 16 Pro that is my main box for doing almost everything including surfing the net. The 386 is my test box that I'm trying to get Linux to run on but it doesn't have a CD or modem. Consequently, I have obtained everything I have for Linux on the Win95 box and transferred to the 386 via floppy. I've made the floppies (Rescue, Drivers, 5 base disks for Debian) following the instructions in the .txt files and Howto's on the 486 in DOS using Rawrite for them and used the disks to install Debian several times as I would learn more and realize I had left something out or wanted to try something different. These seem to be the most stable floppies I have made in Debian. Needless to say, Debian would succeed more times than any of the other distros, including RedHat. Obviously, I spent most of my time working/learning Debian. However, after using a floppy two or three times, it became unusable in any OS. This I attributed to normal attrition, even though the attrition rate was a lot higher than in any of the other OS's. Now the hard drive in the 386 has become unusable. Floppies are getting even worse. They are not reliable but we can't all get a zip or LS120. Debian doesn't overwork them, they just fail. I bought 100 new Fuji floppies and 15 out of 100 would not even format, on Win95 or Linux! Even Debian is refusing to install properly on it, the last semi successful install attempt resulted in a Read Only partial install that won't boot from the hard disk and a floppy boot won't access the hard disk. I believe that Debian has signed the boot partition in some way to make the disk(s) unusable. In other words, a software flag or partition id was written to the disk in a way that was not completely correct. How can I correct this? Is there a Hex editor I could use to clear the boot sector of the disk so a new install would work correctly? I would go to http://toms.net/tomsrtbt and get his 1 floppy Linux system. With it you will be able to look at the HD and might be able to figure what went west. Another alternative is to get Trinux. It is IIRC a 2-3 floppy Linux system which does the same thing. These are great tools to use when you are having problems, such as you have. HTH -- Linux - for those that deserve the Very Best! ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remove plip from kernel
Subject: remove plip from kernel Date: Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 10:08:51PM -0800 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, I've been trying to compile plip out of the 2.0.36 kerenel(slink, hda5), so I can use lp, without success. Here's some data: In .config # CONFIG_PLIP is not set CONFIG_PRINTER=m If the make-kpkg is not removing the modules you can check to see if it is in /lib/modules/2.0.36/misc and remove it yourself. Odd that that is happening tho. BTW you can gain an IRQ by not using one on the printer. It works fine with polling. In bootup message: NET3 PLIP version 2.2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] plip1: Parallel port at 0x378, using assigned IRQ 7. And with cat /proc/ioports: 0378-037f : plip1 HTH -- Office Automation, n.: The use of computers to improve efficiency by removing anyone you would want to talk with over coffee. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CD-RW mount errors
Subject: CD-RW mount errors Date: Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 10:45:29PM -0800 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): When I mount /dev/hdd I get: office:~# mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdd /cdrom ide-scsi: hdd: unsupported command in request queue (0) end_request: I/O error, dev 16:40 (hdd), sector 64 isofs_read_super: bread failed, dev=16:40, iso_blknum=16, block=32 mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdd, or too many mounted file systems What does it say when you do grep -i iso9660 /usr/src/linux/.config -- The problem with program verifiers is that they tend to cheat at toy problems in order to get results. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: newbie needs clarification
Subject: newbie needs clarification Date: Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 07:41:22PM -0600 In reply to:James E. Starr Quoting James E. Starr([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi I want to use ttfonts in Netscape. I've been reading the back posts on this nad need some clarification. One post said to put fontpath Unix/:7101 in the xf86config file. Another said not to do this, put it in .xinitrc. Which is correct? TIA J. Starr p.s. I've looked everywhere I can think of on my system and am unable to find a file named .xinitrc. Where would it be hiding? I have seen is done both ways. I guess it is your choice. Reports from users clain that they both work ok. -- Real computer scientists despise the idea of actual hardware. Hardware has limitations, software doesn't. It's a real shame that Turing machines are so poor at I/O. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with kpkg / dpkg
Subject: Problem with kpkg / dpkg Date: Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 07:50:18PM -0600 In reply to:Christian Dysthe Quoting Christian Dysthe([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello Debian, I have tried to compile my kernel(2.0.34)for sound card support using kpgk. During the comile I get the message that it cannot find the command dpkg-gencontrol, and no kernel image is created. I put the kernel source in /user/kernelnew/linux/. the kpkg talks ^ NO! something about leving /usr/linux alone, but I do not understand this part fully. The normal way of doing a kernel compile is: cd to /usr/src. Do an ls -l (lowercase L). You should see something like lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Feb 26 23:49 linux - linux-2.2.2/ drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 1024 Jan 29 17:40 linux-2.0.36/ drwxr-xr-x 15 1046 1046 2048 Feb 26 23:13 linux-2.2.2/ The first line is a symbolic link that points to , in my case, the source code of kernel 2.2.2. Now I could go on with the rest of what you have to do. But I won't. You see, it would be a waste of my time and net bandwidth. There is a HOWTO, aptly called 'The Linux Kernel HOWTO'. If you have a running system, you have it on your harddisk. If not, you can go to sunsite and look into the LDP (Linux Document Project). The Howto must be 10-12 pages long and it explains the process much better then I can. Debian, like all the other (Good) distributions, have supplied you with all the docs you need. Now is is up to you. If you don't understand something in the Howto, write again, there is always someone here to help. hint: find /usr -type d -iname howto Happy reading and good luck! -- Micro Credo: Never trust a computer bigger than you can lift. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hamm - Slink PROBLEMS
Subject: Hamm - Slink PROBLEMS Date: Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 08:55:20PM -0500 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I am having problems upgrading my new box from hamm to slink. I have installed apt for hamm. I did changed my /etc/apt/sources.list file to point to ftp://ftp.us.debia.org/frozen main contrib non-free. I then did an If this is how it really looks thats why it doesn't work. See below. apt-get update followed by an apt-get dist-upgrade. While trying to d/l, apt gave me the following errors: This deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian slink main contrib non-free or this deb http://ftp1.us.debian.org/debian slink main contrib non-free and this deb http://conan.eecg.toronto.edu slink/non-US Packages You can only have one line uncommented for (main contrib non-free) I have 4 or 5 there just in case a site is not up or is busy and then I try another. So usr either of the slink main lines and then the non-US and you will have everything. Syntax is important! -- Turnaucka's Law: The attention span of a computer is only as long as its electrical cord. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
Subject: Re: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point? Date: Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 01:47:38PM +1100 In reply to:Brian May Quoting Brian May([EMAIL PROTECTED]): In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: I think dselect, especially in combination with the apt access method, is terrific - it just takes some time upfront to get used to it. Many people switching to Linux from the 'Other ' OS may equate spending time to learn an install package, with difficulty of use and/or other nameless difficulties. Just my two cents: I find dselect annoying to use simply because there are so many packages to install. You keep scrolling down and down through the list and loose all perspective as to what order they appear in, what the hierarchy of the sections is, and how far to the bottom of the list. In addition to a quirk I found today. I did an apt-get update on potato. As expected there some dependicy errors after a 40 Meg upgrade. So, no problem, I'll go to dselect to work them out. I select the 2.2.1-1 kernel source while I was there. Select then got the kernel source and about 6-8 other libs I hadn't asked for. It seem that dselect and apt-get must use two different Package lists. I would have expected them to use the same one as they both use dpkg. I 'thought' I was beginning to finally get a handle on dselect but this threw me off again. -- There are two ways to write error-free programs. Only the third one works. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where are ms-dos filenames for Debian packages?
Subject: Where are ms-dos filenames for Debian packages? Date: Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 06:03:13PM -0600 In reply to:Keith Saxon Quoting Keith Saxon([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Where can I find Debian packages with 8.3 filenames so I can install them from a DOS partion with dselect? I have no idea! I doubt that you would or could find any! xserver-xtt-svga_3.3.3.1-0.xtt.1.deb How would you suggest that file be handled? Poor ole Windoze would break. The only 8.3 file names I know of are for the boot disks and the rawrite.exe file, used to make the boot disks. OK, lets see if we can help. Option 1 buy a CD for $1.99 + $5 shipping ( wait until next week so you can get Debian 2.1). Option 2 Find someone in your area that has a CD of any older Debian release. Use it to get started and then upgrade to the latest greatest over the net. I would not have any other suggestion if all you currently have is Gates-Ware running. HTH -- Real programmers disdain structured programming. Structured programming is for compulsive neurotics who were prematurely toilet-trained. They wear neckties and carefully line up pencils on otherwise qclear desks. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mouse is not working in console mode
Subject: mouse is not working in console mode Date: Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 09:22:20PM +1100 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, After I upgrade my system to slink, my mouse is not working in the consol mode anymore. Any ideas where I should start looking into the problem?? Thanks. Shao. Have you tried running it by hand ie, gpm -t (your-mouse-type), as root? If that works, kill it with gpm -k and try /etc/init.d/gpm start. HTH -- APL is a write-only language. I can write programs in APL, but I can't read any of them. -- Roy Keir ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SoundBlaster 16 and midi
Subject: SoundBlaster 16 and midi Date: Sun, Feb 28, 1999 at 02:01:32PM -0600 In reply to:Roy-Anders Larsen Quoting Roy-Anders Larsen([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have a Creative Labs Soundblaster 16 PnP, or model SB4171 (I believe it is referred to as model CT4171 by the user manual), and I cannot figure out how to make midi work. It works fine in DOS/WfW3.11 and WAV files work in linux. It seems to get detected fine with isapnp. My system is a 486DX33 with 10 MB RAM, running Debian 2.0 (slink) with kernel 2.2.2 I've tried kernel 2.0.36, 2.2.1 and 2.2.2 with different sound modules and also with alsa, and I cannot figure it out. This is what happens when i playmidi audio/moonligh.mid: Playmidi 2.3 Copyright (C) 1994-1996 Nathan I. Laredo This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. For details please see the file COPYING. bakh:~# No sound. Nothing happens. [ snip ] I have a similar card and I also am running 2.2.2 but with the OSS Registered sound drivers. I had no problem using playmidi with 2.0.36 but just tried it on 2.2.2 and noe get this. Playmidi 2.4 Copyright (C) 1994-1997 Nathan I. Laredo, AWE32 by Takashi Iwai This is free software with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. For details please see the file COPYING. SoftOSS: CPU overload. Limiting # of voices to 28 SoftOSS: CPU overload. Limiting # of voices to 27 SoftOSS: CPU overload. Limiting # of voices to 26 So tried TiMidity (in X) and it works fine. (??) I have not finished troubleshooting this but thought I would let you know that you are not alone. $ cat/proc/sndstat OSS/Linux 3.9.2b (C) 4Front Technologies 1996-1999 License serial number: X Options: This copy of OSS is licensed to Wayne Topa Kernel: Linux mtntop 2.2.2 #21 Fri Feb 26 22:56:34 GMT 1999 i686 Build: 2.2.1-UP Card config: SoftOSS Virtual Wave Table Generic PnP support SoundBlaster PnP at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1,5 OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 SB MPU-401 at 0x330 irq 5 Audio devices: 0: Creative SB16 PnP (4.13) (DUPLEX) 1: SB secondary device (DUPLEX) Synth devices: 0: SoftOSS v1.2 1: Yamaha OPL-3 Midi devices: 0: Sound Blaster 16 Timers: 0: System clock 1: SoftOSS Mixers: 0: Sound Blaster -- At the source of every error which is blamed on the computer you will find at least two human errors, including the error of blaming it on the computer. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point?
Subject: Debian and Redhat - are most linux users missing the point? Date: Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 03:54:04AM - In reply to:Frankie Quoting Frankie([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I don't know where to post this to, but this seemed as good a place as any. This is not a Debian vs Redhat flame war email, so please do not treat this posting like that. [ snip ] This could easily be corrected, by, for example, the debian organisation writing to major linux sites (eg /. , freshmeat etc) and asking them to display a debian logo. Or, failing that, every reader of this posting with a website to display the debian logo when it comes out on their website. This would provide an amount of free advertising for debian which would help to raise its profile. /rant cos I'm tired. frankie Good rant Now I wish I had a web site so I could help! -- I do not fear computers. I fear the lack of them. -- Isaac Asimov ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a tool like dselect for administer debian?
Subject: a tool like dselect for administer debian? Date: Sat, Feb 27, 1999 at 09:58:31AM -0800 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I want a tool whit menus or at least with the same interface of fdisk that I can use to add, delete users and asign permisions? Yhat is one of the nice things about Linux. If you don't find the tool you want, you just sit dow and write a prigram to do it. Isn't this the greatest learning tool ever! -- APL is a write-only language. I can write programs in APL, but I can't read any of them. -- Roy Keir ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Getting X-Windows to recognize Truetype fonts...
Subject: Getting X-Windows to recognize Truetype fonts... Date: Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 05:29:44PM -0600 In reply to:rich Quoting rich([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Howdy all, I'm having trouble getting Netscape and Wordperfect to recognize my TTFs... I've installed xfstt (it's loaded during boot-up), but when I do a xlsfonts | grep ttf I get nothing... I've also done ln -s /dos_c/windows/fonts /usr/share/fonts/truetype/winfonts as per xfstt documentation... I know that I'm probably supposed to add the line xset fp+ unix/:7101 to my xinitrc (?), but that doesn't do anything any 1. fp+ unix/:7101 2. In XF86Config Section Files FontPath /usr/ttfonts # Pointer to ttf files HTH -- You know you've been spending too much time on the computer when your friend misdates a check, and you suggest adding a ++ to fix it. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Segmentation Fault with Netscape Communicator 4.5
Subject: Re: Segmentation Fault with Netscape Communicator 4.5 Date: Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 08:26:58PM +0100 In reply to:Anthony GGP Quoting Anthony GGP([EMAIL PROTECTED]): This has been answered over a dozen times in the last two months. Could I suggest that you check the mail archives on www.debian.org before asking questions here. Many of the European readers have to pay big bucks to get mail off this list and a lot of your questions have been asked before, and are in the archives. Wayne: Did I answer your question with this message? If so, I was in error. I thought I was answering a msg from a 'pollywog'. I had been deluged with 'pollywog' messages and thought I was responding to him. My apologies. No offense taken. I have actually checked out various online resources including the Netscape Website, Debian.org, man pages and HOWTOs and have been monitoring the mailing list for some time and have not found an answer to my question. However, I must admit I did fail to check out dejanews. I'll be sure to check it out next time. And I forgot to mention it as well. :-( Living in Europe myself and having to pay big bucks, I sympathize with those annoyed by repeatedly asked questions. However, I would like to ask you to be a little more considerate in this regard as, with the current Linux boom, there are many newbies out there with many unanswered questions, despite doing a great deal of research on their own. And when these people actually do post a question I think they'd appreciate a helping hand. Besides, isn't that what this mailing-list is about, to offer help and advice to those who need it? Yes, and I try to help whenever I can. But as an instructor myself, I find that ' some people ', tend to get in the habit of asking for answers to problems without doing any research themselves. This list is populated with people who 'know' so much and it is such a good resource, some seem to take advantage of it. I believe that if you give a person a pointer to where the answers can be found, you do more for them in the long run. If I answered a question with Do x, y z , if might solve your problem but it would not have educated you. Best regards, Wayne -- Documentation is the castor oil of programming. Managers know it must be good because the programmers hate it so much. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lilo
Subject: lilo Date: Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 01:34:55AM -0500 In reply to:Robert Rati Quoting Robert Rati([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I had lilo working just fine on my machine, but because of a stupid move on my part, I had to repartition and reformat all my drives. To avoid re-installing and re-setting up everything on my box, I simply copied my Debian partitions to a drive I didn't have to format. I've copied it back over and ran lilo, and it seemed to work fine. When I try to compile a kernel, it gives this error at the end: Checking for LILO...\nYes, but I couldn't find a LILO signature on /dev/hda Check your /etc/lilo.conf, or run /sbin/lilo by hand. When I run lilo by hand there's no problem so why is this error being thrown? My /etc/lilo.conf follows: boot=/dev/hda root=/dev/hda2 install=/boot/boot.b map=/boot/map vga=normal delay=20 image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only other = /dev/hda1 label = win95 table = /dev/hda other = /dev/hdb3 label = beos table = /dev/hdb Can anyone help me out? TIA. Rob Bob I am _not_ a lilo expert but I have checked the lilo manual and I can only come up with two things. 1) wipe out the MBR on hda with DOS fdisk /MBR and run lilo by hand again. 2) I don't use that install= line that you have and the manual seems to show examples only using install= for a floppy. (???) Other then the install line your lilo.conf looks OK to me, for whatever that is worth. HTH -- There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their home. -- Ken Olson, President of DEC, World Future Society Convention, 1977 ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: hostname domain name changing
Subject: hostname domain name changing Date: Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 06:08:53PM +0800 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): hello, when i installed my debian box, i only put in some out of nowhere hostname and domain names, now it seems that i need to give it some real hostname and domain name that really exists. can someone direct me please as to what files (all necessary files) that i should change for me to go about this. any help will greatly be appriciated. caa have you looked at ' man hostname ' -- COBOL programs are an exercise in Artificial Inelegance. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ifconfig, ipaliased interface question
Subject: ifconfig, ipaliased interface question Date: Tue, Feb 23, 1999 at 09:38:14PM -0600 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello, I am finding a problem with my system in the interaction between ifconfig and ipmasq, (enumerate-if specifically). [ snip ] I am open to other, (better?), workarounds if anyone else has had this same experience. Thanks, -- Bill Bell You might take a look at this site. It has more info concerning setting up ipfwadm/ipchains than any other I have found. I also has an interactive configuration program to help in setting up your network forwarding/masq scripts. http://rlz.ne.mediaone.net/linux/firewall/ HTH -- What this country needs is a good five cent microcomputer. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lpr and text formatting
Subject: Re: lpr and text formatting Date: Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 06:36:31AM -0800 In reply to:Paul Nathan Puri Quoting Paul Nathan Puri([EMAIL PROTECTED]): What file is this, i.e., what file in the /etc/ directory are you referring to? Thank you... NatePuri Certified Law Student Debian GNU/Linux Monk McGeorge School of Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ompages.com On Thu, 25 Feb 1999, Guenter Schmidt wrote: Paul Nathan Puri wrote: I want to know what lpr options can be used to format ascii text docs. Specifically, I want to have my docs print with normal 1 inch margins. I'm running lprng, magicfilter, and gs-aladdin. Thanks If you use an HP printer, you may use PCL commands at the end of the magicfilter-script. mine looks like that: # Original default entry #defaultcat \eE\ek2G\e(0N \eE # My default to change Font and Margins: default cat \eE\ek2G\e(0N\e(s0p12h10v0b0s8T\ea8L \eE -- Dr. Guenter Schmidt | Bruker Analytik GmbH | Phone: +49 7243-504-443 -Software Department- | Rudolf Plank-Str. 23 | Fax: +49 7243-504-480 | D-76275 Ettlingen| E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Alias E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Some reading of the HOWTO's would help you here (Printing Printing-Usage). /etc/printcap is what Dr. Schmidt was refering to. -- In English, every word can be verbed. Would that it were so in our programming languages. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: istalling lprng
Subject: istalling lprng Date: Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 03:09:01PM +0200 In reply to:Micha Feigin Quoting Micha Feigin([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Anyone know where i can find documentation on how to install lprng (or is wiling to explain); I intalled the package, i can print text files using ' lpr file name' when i tried to print from the kde editor it just did nothing when i tried to print from ghostview, it just sent out the raw postscript to the printer. Thanx Get the magicfilter package. -- Just about every computer on the market today runs Unix, except the Mac (and nobody cares about it). -- Bill Joy 6/21/85 ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: smb.conf and preexec
Subject: smb.conf and preexec Date: Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 01:17:33AM + In reply to:tony mollica Quoting tony mollica([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi. I'm running samba 1.9.18p8 on a Debian 2.0, 2.0.34 system connected to a winnt4sp3 network. Most everything works nicely, but I can't get the cdrom's (2 scsi) on the Linux box to automount with preexec = . The fstab is set as follows and as recommended in the smb.conf file: /dev/scd0 /cd0 iso9660 defaults,noauto,user,ro 0 0 The smb.conf entry is [cd0] comment = Samba Server's cdrom 0 writable = no locking = no path = /cd0 public = yes preexec /bin/mount /cd0 postexec /bin/umount /cd0 /cd0 has 0755 permissions and 'mount /cd0' works from from the terminal. Everything appears to be working, except it seems the 'preexec' command doesn't get run. I find no further information on this item in the docs. Any suggestions? thanks, -- Here is mine, and it works fine. [cdrom] comment = Linux CDROM browsable = yes guest ok = yes available = yes public = yes writable = no printable = no path = /cdrom HTH tony mollica [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Every program has two purposes -- one for which it was written and another for which it wasn't. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IP Forwarding
Subject: IP Forwarding Date: Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 05:07:34PM +0100 In reply to:Ries van Twisk Quoting Ries van Twisk([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Currently I'm working with my linux box learning about proxy's and firewalls. How do I tell if IP_Forwading is turned off? I do have a file called: /proc/net/ip_forward wich is empty. (I do also have /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward) Wich is also empty Is it one of these files I have to look for? ANd wich is wich? The IP forwarding info in ' man ipfwadm ' might answer most of your questions. In addition there is always the IP-Masquerade mini/Howto. If you are using kernel-2.2.x then look at the IPCHAINS-HOWTO. You will be able to understand the answers you get if you have at least read through the above docs. Best Regards, Ries van Twisk -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- One good reason why computers can do more work than people is that they never have to stop and answer the phone. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Segmentation Fault with Netscape Communicator 4.5
Subject: Segmentation Fault with Netscape Communicator 4.5 Date: Wed, Feb 24, 1999 at 08:46:55PM +0100 In reply to:Anthony GGP Quoting Anthony GGP([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi everybody, 1[ snip ] This has been answered over a dozen times in the last two months. Could I suggest that you check the mail archives on www.debian.org before asking questions here. Many of the European readers have to pay big bucks to get mail off this list and a lot of your questions have been asked before, and are in the archives. No offense intended. Wayne -- Unquestionably, there is progress. The average American now pays out twice as much in taxes as he formerly got in wages. -- H. L. Mencken ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Managing /usr/local
Subject: Re: Managing /usr/local Date: Mon, Feb 22, 1999 at 07:10:23PM -0800 In reply to:Joey Hess Quoting Joey Hess([EMAIL PROTECTED]): David Zanetti wrote: David Zanetti, Unix System Administrator, Information Technology Group Wellington City Council, New Zealand. Phone x3354 or 04 801 3354 The information contained in this email is privileged and confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are asked to respect that confidentiality and not disclose, copy or make use of its contents. If received in error you are asked to destroy this email and contact the sender immediately. Your assistance is appreciated. Please do not post things with a bogus license like this to a public mailing list. An additional comment. More then 4 lines in a signature is considered bad form. Waste of bandwidth. -- see shy jo -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Need help with new cable modem
Subject: Need help with new cable modem Date: Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 11:07:58AM -0800 In reply to:Matt Campbell Quoting Matt Campbell([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Help! As of about 8 pm tonight I will have a brand spanking new cable modem connection to the internet. However, at this point it looks like it might only work for Windows 95, and this sucks. Is there anyone out there on the @Home network who might be able to help me configure my linux box to use it? I can tell already I have several issues to address: 1) Find a driver for the plug-n-pray PCI ethernet controller they installed. (Realtek RTL8029 - a really really generic card, the box doesn't even have the manufacturers name on it) 2) Configure a DHCP client. Also, in relation to this, I may need to change my hostname to that beastly thing they assigned me... ugh 3) Pray to God. (Or gods, or goddesses, depending on religious inclination) So, can anyone give me any pointers? Read the ISDN-HOWTO -- Office Automation, n.: The use of computers to improve efficiency by removing anyone you would want to talk with over coffee. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is the ipfwadm stuff by default?
Subject: where is the ipfwadm stuff by default? Date: Fri, Feb 19, 1999 at 11:26:07PM - In reply to:Pollywog Quoting Pollywog([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have a couple of ipfwadm rules in effect that I did not add. That means that the default installation has rules someplace. Does anyone know where I can find them? Perhaps I should put all my rules in the same place. thanks rgrep ipfwadm /mnt/etc/* -- To the systems programmer, users and applications serve only to provide a test load. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Make postscipt files use less pages?
Subject: Make postscipt files use less pages? Date: Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 07:12:07AM + In reply to:M.C. Vernon Quoting M.C. Vernon([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Dear all, Is it possible to make postscipt files print out with two postscript pages fitting onto one physical page (or is there an option in ghostview for this?), please? 350 pages of hurd manual could do with being shrunk before I use _all_ my paper up Thanks, Matthew Look at the man pages for a2ps, enscript, psresize, and psselect. With combinations of the above I have scripts that Allow any file (ps, gz,etc) to print as 1 page, 2 pages 1 side, 2 pages both sides, 4 pages one side and 4 pages - both sides ( Man pages look great this way). I have never cleaned them up (the scripts) so won't post them but if anyone wants I will e-mail them. -- ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is the ipfwadm stuff by default?
Subject: Re: where is the ipfwadm stuff by default? Date: Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 10:53:30AM + In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Subject: where is the ipfwadm stuff by default? Date: Fri, Feb 19, 1999 at 11:26:07PM - In reply to:Pollywog Quoting Pollywog([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have a couple of ipfwadm rules in effect that I did not add. That means that the default installation has rules someplace. Does anyone know where I can find them? Perhaps I should put all my rules in the same place. thanks rgrep ipfwadm /mnt/etc/* Woops, I was on slackware when I did that, sorry rgrep ipfwadm /etc/* But you knew that, didn't you? -- Man is the best computer we can put aboard a spacecraft ... and the only one that can be mass produced with unskilled labor. -- Wernher von Braun ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: where is the ipfwadm stuff by default?
Subject: Re: where is the ipfwadm stuff by default? Date: Sat, Feb 20, 1999 at 05:44:56PM - In reply to:Pollywog Quoting Pollywog([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On 20-Feb-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subject: where is the ipfwadm stuff by default? Date: Fri, Feb 19, 1999 at 11:26:07PM - In reply to:Pollywog Quoting Pollywog([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have a couple of ipfwadm rules in effect that I did not add. That means that the default installation has rules someplace. Does anyone know where I can find them? Perhaps I should put all my rules in the same place. thanks rgrep ipfwadm /mnt/etc/* u What will that do? -- Andrew It would show what files contain ipfwadm on the distribution you had mounted the root partition on /mnt. Which is what I had done to answer your question. I had mounted slink / on /mnt. I had hoped you could figure that one out. Sorry to have further confused you. -- This sentence contradicts itself -- no actually it doesn't. -- Hofstadter ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RealTek 8029 PCI pnp Ethernet card
Subject: RealTek 8029 PCI pnp Ethernet card Date: Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 11:56:07AM -0600 In reply to:David Webster Quoting David Webster([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Any guesses as to what driver to use for this card since it is not directly supported? I see that someone suggested the NE2000. I used that in 2.0.36 and it worked but there was a suggestion in kernel 2.2.1 to use the _new_ pci driver. I did and it reports it like this: ne2k-pci.c:v0.99L 2/7/98 D. Becker/P. Gortmaker http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/ne2k-pci.html ne2k-pci.c: PCI NE2000 clone 'RealTek RTL-8029' at I/O 0x6200, IRQ 9. eth0: PCI NE2000 found at 0x6200, IRQ 9, 00:40:05:3D:34:51. So for the 2.2.1 kernels its ne2k-pci and for the 2.0.36 its NE2000. BTW, in the config the PCI choice is below the ne200 called ne2k. HTH -- You can't make a program without broken egos. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Best partitioning scheme?
Subject: Re: Best partitioning scheme? Date: Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 06:22:20AM -0500 In reply to:Jeremy Quoting Jeremy([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Kent West wrote: Storage mostly needs to be shared, so I think I need Samba and Netatalk (see below). So, after getting input from several people, this is how I'm looking to do things: Drive 1: / = 200MB I think 200 megs is overkill here, but since you have the space, it's your chance. [gaddis:jeremy]$ df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda1 242M 35M 195M 15% / When I installed Debian on this system, I allocated ~250 megs for /, which, looking back, was way too much. Its only using 35 megs, and I don't really expect it to ever make it to 50 megs. Now, I wish I had only made it 50 megs, because I could use that other 200 megs elsewhere. /usr = 1 GB /usr/local = 500 MB (is this where stuff like StarOffice, Netscape, WP8 would go?) Yep. Looks good. swap = 64 MB /var = 100 MB /tmp = 100 MB Drive 2: /home = 2 GB less swap (personal storage space for 7 techs or so) swap = 64 MB Drive 3: /apple = 2 GB less swap (netatalk storage space for Mac software) swap = 64 MB Drive 4: /pc = 2GB less swap (samba storage space for PC software) swap = 64 MB How does this sound? Again, thanks! The only thing is you have 64 megs of swap on each drive. This is a total of 256 megs. Linux will not make use of more than 128 megs, unless you're running a 2.2.x kernel. I'd suggest making each swap partition 16 megs, for a total of 64. This would suit you just fine, unless you will have lots of memory hogging apps running. In that case, I'd make each 32 megs, for a total of 128 megs. Ohhh? Only 128Meg? Don't think that is correct. I believe that, if you check, linux will use up to 8 swap partitions of (a max) of 128 Meg _each_. I think that 2.2.x has increased that limit. (haven't checked tho) My 2 cents on your partitions. When I was using kernel 2.0.36 and staroffice I had it crash on occasion when I had 1 125 Meg swap partition. I solved it by adding another 125 meg partition. I find that Gimp ImageMagic ran better with the ~250 Megs swap as well. I have 4 different dists running and have 250 Meg assigned to /. None of them have reached 100 Meg yet ( one is at 86 Meg and it is used at the softwate test system), 100 Meg seems kile it would be fine. IMHO 1 Gig for /usr is smart. Depending on how much non-debian software you 'might' load up, 500M-1Gg for /usr/local would be a safe bet also. HTH -- Command, n.: Statement presented by a human and accepted by a computer in such a manner as to make the human feel as if he is in control. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Managing /usr/local
Subject: Managing /usr/local Date: Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 05:59:23PM -0700 In reply to:Gary L. Hennigan Quoting Gary L. Hennigan([EMAIL PROTECTED]): What's the name of the software that helps you keep track of what's getting installed in /usr/local when you install a non-Debianized piece of software yourself? Something akin to the Win98 uninstall utility. I believe you simply run it after doing a make install, or similar, and it scans the specified directories for any files that may have been installed. It keeps a database of these so that you can easily uninstall whatever it is. I know I've seen this discussed somewhere. If not here then certainly on comp.os.linux.misc, but I can't for the life of me think of a keyword to use in searching for it. So, I apologize in advance for the repetition. Thanks, Gary I use installwatch. installwatch-0.5.1.tar.gz HTH -- The fortune program is supported, in part, by user contributions and by a major grant from the National Endowment for the Inanities. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cron examples?
Subject: Cron examples? Date: Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 10:18:38PM -0500 In reply to:James R. Lunsford Quoting James R. Lunsford([EMAIL PROTECTED]): What are some of the things that you are using cron to do? I used to use a similar DOS based program, same name, eons ago when I ran a BBS. In the middle of the night I had it start up and run maintenence for the online games, delete old local e-mail messages, get/sort/unpack FidoNet mail for the BBS, and assorted other things. I'm just wondering, as a Linux/Debian newbie some of the things that cron can do on my system. I'm drawing a blank right now so maybe if I hear from some others how, and what they use cron it'll spark something. -- James R. Lunsford Email - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page - http://www.comports.com/jrl007 ICQ - 2114258 Daily Get mail twice an hour form 0800-2300, spool news twice a day. Update the Locate database. For kernel 2.2.1 I run /sbin/rmmod -a every 5 min.to remove any modules I'm not using. Say the time on the hour. Run a script to save all conf files to an admin dir for all boxes on the LAN. Weekly Remove tmp files not accessed in last 3 days, update the whatis database, Run chklogs to clean up log files Monthly gzip mailboxes and create new ones. Tar-up gzipped log files. HTH -- Software, n.: Formal evening attire for female computer analysts. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED] cate database
Re: To Patch, or Not To Patch (A Kernel)
Subject: Re: To Patch, or Not To Patch (A Kernel) Date: Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 06:05:54AM -0500 In reply to:Jim Foltz Quoting Jim Foltz([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Wed, Feb 17, 1999 at 05:04:00AM +, Mark Wagnon wrote: I'm currently running kernel 2.0.36 on a hamm system. I've heard a lot of good things about 2.2.1, so I thought I'd give it a go. I'm currently downloading linux-2.2.1, but the directory also contains linux-2.2.0 and a patch-2.2.1 file. I was reading through the kernel-howto, and the first paragraph mentions that patches are incremental upgrades to the kernel. My question is then, if I ftp linux-2.2.1, then there is no need to get the patch, right? It's for those who have the linux-2.2.0 revision and wish to upgrade to 2.2.1 without the need for another thirteen-meg file transfer. Am I reading this right? Yes, patch files are created with the diff utility. diff outputs the difference between 2 source files, or can even handle 2 source directory trees. But Debian kernel-source packages are tweaked for Debian. This means that since it is not THE Linux kernel source, it probably won't be OH? I wonder if you could mention what _tweaks_ are required for debian? I have been just getting the kernel from kernel.org and making my own. I was under the impression that the kernels were just Linux, not debian-Linux. Oh, do you mean tweaks to just package it? That I understand but not really tweaks to the kernel, right? successful in using the patch-*.gz files. The package called kernel-package will help you create .debs out of the kernel sources. You don't need it, though. TIA -- __ _ Mark Wagnon -o) / / (_)__ __ __ Chula Vista, CA /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Jim Foltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] ACORN techie http://www.acorn.net AOL/IM jim_foltz -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- You can measure a programmer's perspective by noting his attitude on the continuing viability of FORTRAN. -- Alan Perlis ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Windows Pings not Telnet
Subject: Windows Pings not Telnet Date: Tue, Feb 16, 1999 at 06:54:07AM + In reply to:Paul Nathan Puri Quoting Paul Nathan Puri([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Why would I be able to ping my debian box from my windows box and vice versa with 0% packet loss, but not be able to telnet, http, etc.? linux -- win95 or win95-- linux? More info will help reduce bandwidth. I suspect I have to reinstall all my networking related stuff, is this the answer? Thanks... -- NatePuri Certified Law Student Debian/GNU Linux Monk McGeorge School of Law [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in their home. -- Ken Olson, President of DEC, World Future Society Convention, 1977 ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: help with deselect
Subject: help with deselect Date: Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 10:23:55PM -0600 In reply to:Tony Quoting Tony([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, It's me again, trying desperately to learn Linux... I am trying to use dselect to install some packages into my new install of Debian.. but every time I try to start installing, I get the message: Packages yet to be unpacked: 304 in unknown: vim gnushogi xphoon pwgen tcl8.0 tk8.0 libpaperg... dpkg-split: unable to read depot directory '/var/lib/dpkg/parts/': No such file or directory installation script returned error exit status 1. press RETURN to continue ??? being the traditional Win95 user I know nothing of what is going on! The machine is a Compaq Contura 3/25, 6mb RAM, 115mb HD. I'm sure it's just something I did wrong though. I need to get this dselect working, so I can install manpages, and then I can setup Lilo so I do not have to put in the boot disk every time! Another couple dumb questions while I am at it: * I accidentaly did not enter a password for root when I set up debian. what is the command to change that password. % passwd * What do I need to do to use my modem to dial up with a terminal program? Iguess I need to get dselect to work first, eh? =) Don't understand the question. Thanks again, you guys are a great group of people. thanks for all the great responses about Lilo! Tony -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Office Automation, n.: The use of computers to improve efficiency by removing anyone you would want to talk with over coffee. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange 'find' result
Subject: Strange 'find' result Date: Mon, Feb 15, 1999 at 09:01:51AM +0200 In reply to:Johann Spies Quoting Johann Spies([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Can somebody explain this to me? $ find /cdrom -iname wx* $ find /cdrom -iname wxx* /cdrom/debian/hamm/hamm/binary-i386/libs/wxxt1_1.66d-2.deb Why does the first 'find' query give no results? Try this instead find /cdrom -iname wx\* Johann -- | Johann Spies Windsorlaan 19 | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]3201 Pietermaritzburg | | Tel/Faks Nr. +27 331-46-1310 Suid-Afrika (South Africa) | -- For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers; all things were created by him, and for him. Colossians 1:16 -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Real Programmers don't write in PL/I. PL/I is for programmers who can't decide whether to write in COBOL or FORTRAN. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can't Mount a Zip Drive
Subject: Can't Mount a Zip Drive Date: Sat, Feb 13, 1999 at 01:42:00PM -0600 In reply to:Alex Quoting Alex([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I can't mount my zip drive. It is a scsi zip drive and I think my isa-to-scsi host adapter is working. During boot I get these lines (among others ofcourse): scsi : 0 hosts. scsi : detected total. Does this mean my host adapter is working? It means that the kernel didn't find any scsi devices. I remember reading somewhere that a scsi zip should be ready to mount on a default install of debian. But when I use something like this: mount -t vfat /dev/sda5 /zip This would wouk if the scsi device has a partition 5. check it with (linux) fdisk. ie: fdisk /dev/sda Command (m for help):p or any other sda* listed in /dev I get an error message saying that: the kernel does not recognize /dev/sda* as a block device (maybe 'insmod driver'?) Yep, if the device was compiled as a module, was it? Or depmod -a How do I mount my zip drive? The mount command above will work once you get the card compiled into the kernel. -alex Do you have your scsi card selected in the kernel? As a Module or compilied in? cat /proc/devices if compiled in should show it or cat /proc/modules if compiled as a module (of course) HTH -- The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Installing Sound Card
Subject: Re: Installing Sound Card Date: Sat, Feb 13, 1999 at 11:40:25AM -0600 In reply to:Andrei Ivanov Quoting Andrei Ivanov([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Well, basicly, it's all been said how to get the card working. I hope you succeed at that. I was never able to get my card working, though. What you can do is this: WHenever setting up the sound options in kernel, do the loadable module support. As I was explained before, kernel will initialize the sound before isapnp kicks in with initializing the card itself, and you will have nothing. So just answer M ( At least in hamm it's this way) to Sound card support? question, and after you made your zImage, or bzImage, move to the modules directory and make modules Then reboot, etc etc. You should see no message saying Sound initialization started' Then to go the /usr/src/kernel-***/modules/ and insmod sound trace_init=1 (or init_trace=1) That should work. If it doesnttry OpenSound System. (Anyone got a URL?) HTH, Andrew http://www.opensound.com/linux.html -- It is easier to change the specification to fit the program than vice versa. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iso9660
Subject: iso9660 Date: Sun, Feb 14, 1999 at 03:05:42PM +0800 In reply to:Bal K. Paudyal Quoting Bal K. Paudyal([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hellou Friends, My recent Red Hat installation (don't know how to check the kernel version yet!), says iso9660 file system not supported by kernel. It can't be like Try uname -a that, because I installed from the cdrom. Is there any way out? Also, the system does not allow me to edit a few files, one I have problem with is /proc/filesystems even when I log in as root. It says the file is Yep, it _is_ read only. try cat /proc/filesystems. That will show you what filesystems the kernel knows about. read only. How to chmod for the root's access? You can't. Is is not a disk file and _you_ don't change it, the kernel does. Altho thare are some intem that you can write to, as root. Read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/* for what you can change and why. Thanks! I like that, Debian helping RedHat users! Debian does rule!! -- USER, n.: The word computer professionals use when they mean idiot. -- Dave Barry, Claw Your Way to the Top ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I change to a color monitor?
Subject: RE: How do I change to a color monitor? Date: Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 06:55:27PM -0500 In reply to:William Park Quoting William Park([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Fri, 12 Feb 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The ls --color displays, and also Lynx screens, are still using underlining high-intensity, instead of real colors. I assume you are in shell console, not in xterm. The color support should be on by default. In any case, edit /etc/DIR_COLORS (for ls) ~/.lynxrc (for lynx) You had me going there for a minute. /etc/DIR_COLORS is how it works on Slackware but I just checked hamm, slink and potato and there is no DIR_COLORS in the /etc dir's. Now I have to see how it _is_ done? -- A language that doesn't have everything is actually easier to program in than some that do. -- Dennis M. Ritchie ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NE2000 PCI Card
Subject: NE2000 PCI Card Date: Fri, Feb 12, 1999 at 11:55:49PM -0700 In reply to:Ming Hsu Quoting Ming Hsu([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hi, I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask for help on this, but it may be something in Debian that's tripping me up. I'm trying to set up network support with Debian 2.0 running Linux 2.2.1. The machine is a K6-266MMX with 64MB of RAM. So far the Win95 side of the computer has the network up and running, so I'm pretty sure that the IP address and etc are correct. The problem I have right now is that the kernel won't recognize the NE2000 PCI card. A friend and I tried autoprobing it, and making it a module and loading it after compile, but neither has worked. We also tried to forcing recognition by putting an append line into LILO, but that didn't seem to work either. Are there any other ways to get the card recognized or did we miss a step or something? If you in the past used the NE2000 option it has now branched into 2 different options. i for ISA and 1 for PCI. The PCE one is below the NE2000 option. It ises the ne2k-pci module for PCI, IIRC. HTH Thanks in advance, Ming Hsu -- The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: slashdot poll
Subject: RE: slashdot poll Date: Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 12:13:30AM + In reply to:M.C. Vernon Quoting M.C. Vernon([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Debian's harder to install. One guy mentionned he could install Red Hat in less than 15 minutes. Hard to have something fully up at that speed with Debian. Right. I've recently tried Redhat and SuSE on a separate partition and Debian's installation is still pure stone age. Well, i guess there's still Slackware... What do people like about RH? Is it worth trying to nick parts of their install? I found it a pain - It wouldn't let me just install individual packages, though I wonder whether some of the modconf stuff could be left out for the initial install. I got into linux 3 -4 years ago. The only distributions that I got to work at all were Debian and slackware. Redhat Caldera drove me nuts. I couldn't get the printer working on either one. I stayed with debian for about a year. Then, while trying to update using IIRC dselect ftp, it trashed the system. I could still log on but that was about it. Deselect was just a slight bit better then glint ( or whatever they called it). I went back to slackware, which I still use. I then tried Suse. Yast was nice and I feel it lets a user get packages with less confusion then deselect does but it has its own confusing parts. It (YAST) is IMHO much better then the tool that I had used with Redhat. The problem I had with Suse was they had taken a different path (SysV) then Slackware and I found that weird. Things weren't as stright forward as they were in Slackware. A slight problem was that a lot of the docs I needed to read to understand the differences were in German. I couldn't get the info I needed, so dropped Suse. I watched the newsgroups and various ML over the years and saw that more people were having problems with RH then they were with any other dist (Release new version a week later release tons of fixes). Debian didn't have that problem. Security on RH seemed to be a common problem, while Debian was on top of the security issue. The number of packages in Debian keep increasing and seems to cover a broad enough spectrum that should interest just about anyone. Now 3 years later I am again using Debian. Why? Well I have watched this distribution mature. The problems that I had before have been addressed and fixed. The addition of apt and now the GREAT gnome-apt will contribute to the popularity of Debian. Hopefully deselect will be replaces by a more understandable console program for the non-x crowd. As of now I have no interest at all in RH or Suse. I have Slackware still installed but also Hamm, Slink and Potato. I still have clients using Slackware but am just about ready to start the switch to Debian. It, IMHO, is the distribution of choice. Gnome-apt will allow my clients to do more admin on their own, and that is good! How about suggesting some improvements, rather than I don't like the Debian install? I find deselect as the only problem with debian. The update section really needs work. Cdrom and apt are handled fine but the others should have some type of a config file to make the options easier to use. I have tried the ftp option a few times and find it is easier to get out of deselect and go get the packages myself. Now I remember, it asks for a directory at the site you selected and if you haven't been there before (or are really into the structure of the site) it doesn't do what you want. A config file would allow anyone to navigate that pitfall. Thats my only suggestion. I can get around that problem (by not using it) but newbies would get discouraged very fast not knowing how else to get and install the files. I would like to thank the army of developers who have taken Debian to the high level it is currently at. I am bewildered my the poll that has Debian as #2. I guess that it just takes a little higher IQ to use Debian then it does RH. Thats fine by me, I like the company. Wayne -- You can measure a programmer's perspective by noting his attitude on the continuing viability of FORTRAN. -- Alan Perlis ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2.2.1 and /dev/sound
Subject: 2.2.1 and /dev/sound Date: Wed, Feb 10, 1999 at 10:36:10AM -0600 In reply to:Richard E. Hawkins Esq. Quoting Richard E. Hawkins Esq.([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I've finally convinced 2.2.1 to run X and my network. I still haven't figured out why kerneld doesn't start anymore and do this automatically. did you enable this # ## Loadable module support # #CONFIG_MODULES=y CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y CONFIG_KMOD=y And read the Documentation/kmod.txt Kmod: The Kernel Module Loader Kirk Petersen Kmod is a simple replacement for kerneld. It consists of a request_module() replacement and a kernel thread called kmod. When the kernel requests a module, the kmod wakes up and execve()s modprobe, passing it the name that was requested. If you have the /proc filesystem mounted, you can set the path of modprobe (where the kernel looks for it) by doing: echo /sbin/modprobe /proc/sys/kernel/modprobe To periodically unload unused modules, put something like the following in root's crontab entry: 0-59/5 * * * * /sbin/rmmod -a But the sound doesn't work now. the basic When I did the above, it did work! HTH -- One good reason why computers can do more work than people is that they never have to stop and answer the phone. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unzipping wp
Subject: unzipping wp Date: Wed, Feb 03, 1999 at 10:51:14AM -0600 In reply to:Brian Morgan Quoting Brian Morgan([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I've just downloaded wordperfect onto /usr/local/wp and am having trouble unzipping it. Maybe it's just because I'm a newbie and haven't got the hang of it yet. I type: gunzip -fd GUILG00.GZ and get the following error: gunzip: GUILG00.GZ: not in gzip format. Am I doing something wrong? Is there another switch I need to add to the gunzip command? No, probabley not. Netscape unzipped it when you downloaded it. Do file GUILG00.GZ and it will tell you if it is gziped or not. BTW did you down the 4-5 files or only the bug 20Meg one. I did both and the only one that worked was the 1 big one. HTH Thanks, Brian Morgan -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- It's not just a computer -- it's your ass. -- Cal Keegan ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Tracking installs
Subject: Tracking installs Date: Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 04:44:16PM -0500 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): There's a nifty little program PCMag wrote for Win that tracks installations, and I'd like to have this functionality in Linux. Before I write my own, is there a utility that will do the same thing? Basically, the software gets an image of your disks, and saves copies of important files (the registry and such). Then you run your install, and re- run the program. It then reports files added, deleted and changed, and shows you changes to your important files. I suppose the LInux version would get your directory lists, save copies of files in /etc and then do the compares after installation. Any thoughts? A non-debian method is instmon (instmon-1.4.tar.gz). Look on freshmeat. HTH -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- A LISP programmer knows the value of everything, but the cost of nothing. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help compiling my kernel
Subject: Help compiling my kernel Date: Mon, Feb 01, 1999 at 11:12:38PM -0500 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I need some help compiling my kernel: 1) I would really rather not have to go through the config process - it is my hope that I can use the standard .config file with a few modifications - in particular, sound and APM enabled. Can't I just use the standard .config file, modify a few things via an editor, and use it to recompile my kernel? If I do this, can I skip the make menuconfig step? Sure you can, but I wouldn't. Read the top of /usr/src/linux/.config. # # Automatically generated by make menuconfig: don't edit # # config is boring, menuconfig is real easy, xconfig is easier. None of them are so hard that they should cause any concern. Try one of them and use the help feature. You can learn a lot. Further, I unpacked my kernel-source package, but it doesn't contain a .config file, however it does contain .config.save. Can I rename it to .config and use it? Don't know about config.save. Do an ls .config-save and see of the selections agree with those that you want. 2) After I compile my kernel, say I decide to change a few things in the source - is there a need to redo the make menuconfig step? Or does that strictly create the .config file? You know enough to change things in the _source_?? The config file ( created by the config process) tells the compile process ( which creates the kernel) what options you want in your kernel. 3) I tried to make menuconfig, but got an error: rm -f include/asm ( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm) make -C scripts/lxdialog all make[1]: Entering directory 'usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/scripts/lxdialog' gcc -O2 -Wall -fomit-frame-pointer -DLOCALE -DCURSES_LOC=curses.h -c lxdialog.c -o lxdialog.o In file included from lxdialog.c:22: dialog.h:29: curses.h: No such file or directory make[1]: *** [lxdialog.o] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.34/scripts/lxdialog' make: *** [menuconfig] Error 2 I'm guessing I need something like ncursesxxx-dev, right? How come this isn't in the dependencies of kernel-package? I'm not on my debian box right now but if you got kernel-source, kernel-headers and kernel-package, yes the dependencies should have got everything you needed, if you used deselect or apr-get to get those packages. If you went downloaded them yourself.? 4) According to the README in /usr/src/linux, I should link as follows: ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386 /usr/include/asm ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux/usr/include/linux ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi /usr/include/scsi Problem is, I have libc6 installed, and it is installed in /usr/include. Should I do the links as directed? Or will the libc6 stuff work? Yes, follow the readme. Take a look in /usr/include, there are a lof of things there. So what? 5) I seem to have three different versions of the header files. Do I really need them all? I have: libc6 - /usr/include libc5-altdev - /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/include linux source - /usr/src/include Only if you want the system to work. 6) The kernel-package docs say I need to run: make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot version Do I need to do this if I compile as root? I don't have fakeroot - do I need it? Will su work instead? Don't know about the --rootcmd as I always make new kernels as root and I don't have fakeroot either. Hope that answers your questions. Have you ever tried reading the Kernel-HOWTO?? HTH -- Using TSO is like kicking a dead whale down the beach. -- S. C. Johnson ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Help compiling my kernel
Subject: Re: Help compiling my kernel Date: Tue, Feb 02, 1999 at 01:00:59PM -0700 In reply to:Gary L. Hennigan Quoting Gary L. Hennigan([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | 4) According to the README in /usr/src/linux, I should link as follows: | | ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386 /usr/include/asm | ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux/usr/include/linux | ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/scsi /usr/include/scsi | | Problem is, I have libc6 installed, and it is installed in /usr/include. | Should I do the links as directed? Or will the libc6 stuff work? | | Yes, follow the readme. Take a look in /usr/include, there are a lof | of things there. So what? No, I don't think this is true anymore. At some point I remember reading a post from Linus stating that doing the above steps could be harmful to your system since, presumably, libc was compiled with what's already in /usr/include and now you're wiping that with what's there for a particular kernel. This could cause a conflict between the kernel and libc, which is NOT a Good Thing (TM). He said the best thing to do was ignore the above and not make those particular symbolic links. I never have, and my kernels compile up and run fine. Well I haven't done the link in a long while myself, on slackware or Debian, come to think of it. In fact the 2.2.0 kernel Readme no longer mentions it. Sorry about that. I was in a foul mood afer reading this list of questions. | 5) I seem to have three different versions of the header files. | Do I really | need them all? I have: | | libc6 - /usr/include | libc5-altdev - /usr/i486-linuxlibc1/include | linux source - /usr/src/include | | Only if you want the system to work. Hmm, is anything essential to Debian still linked against libc5? I'm not sure, but I don't think so. The only thing I remember in hamm requiring libc5 was netscape. That's not true in slink. Of course if you try to remove libc5 it'll tell you if anything you have depends on it. My thought here was that, based on the questions asked, that it was better to leave them in rather then get into it deeper. | 6) The kernel-package docs say I need to run: | | make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot version | | Do I need to do this if I compile as root? I don't have fakeroot | - do I need | it? Will su work instead? | | | Don't know about the --rootcmd as I always make new kernels as root | and I don't have fakeroot either. Hope that answers your questions. I'll second this. Never used fakeroot and have never had a problem. Gary -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- If a listener nods his head when you're explaining your program, wake him up. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome Not working in Slink upgrade
Subject: Gnome Not working in Slink upgrade Date: Tue, Dec 22, 1998 at 09:53:32PM -0500 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Just tried a new slink upgrade, again. I must have something wrong because I can't get gnome to upgrade correctly. when I run panel or eeyes I get the message: libgtk-1.1.so.2 cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory I do have libgtk-1.1.so.3 libgtk-1.1.so.1 but no libgtk-1.1.so.2. Everything _but_ gnome and its apps _seem_ to be running. Does 'anyone' have gnome running on slink? If so, I wonder what is wrong with the depends (and on What?). TIA Wayne I guess I had better answer my oun question. 1st - Remember to THINK before you send mail to the list and ask a DUMB question! If gnome-panel needs libgtk-1.1.so.2 and you have libgtk-1.1.so.3 OF COURSE apt-get won't upgrade you to a lower version! So, IF you think, you only have to remove the higher version (1.1.so.3) and all the packages that are using it, and then up-grade those packages! Then the correct version libgtk-1.1.so.2 get installed. Sorry guys, too much shopping and running around and not enog\ugh sleep. It was clear as a bell when I got up and thought about it today. Sorry for the FUD!! Wayne -- Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Gnome Not working in Slink upgrade
Subject: Re: Gnome Not working in Slink upgrade Date: Tue, Dec 22, 1998 at 10:57:45PM -0800 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have Gnome from slink working. I did an upgrade to 2.2 last night, however, and that broke Gnome. Since, at this time, the newer versions of gtk are incompatible with many progs compiled with the older versions, letting apt/deselect update gtk to 1.1.5 is a very bad idea; I had the same error that you are getting. I had to uninstall all the Gnome debs and re-update (downdate ?) back to slink today to get it to work again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, December 22, 1998 6:55 PM Subject: Gnome Not working in Slink upgrade Just tried a new slink upgrade, again. I must have something wrong because I can't get gnome to upgrade correctly. Yup, figured that out this AM. The 1.1.so.3 was killing gnome so I had to remove all of them (and others) before I could remove libgtk-1.1.so.3. When I did that the upgrade went fine. Just me with my head in the wrong place. :-( Best Regards Wayne -- Pascal, n.: A programming language named after a man who would turn over in his grave if he knew about it. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Moving partition
Subject: Re: Moving partition Date: Wed, Dec 23, 1998 at 11:01:03PM -0400 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): In fact, my problem is : How do I move files from an old parttion to a new one while ensure all links (and things like that) are kept ? This is the way I've done it dozens of times...its from the days prior to cp having the correct attributes to do it correctly, and maintain last access times, etc... mount the target filesystem (lets say at /mnt) cd to the top of the one which you want to copy...lets say /usr then, this command: find . -depth | cpio -pdmv /mnt The result at /mnt will be AN EXACT duplicate of the filesystem. I understand that the more recent GNU cp will do the same, but this is the way I've always done it, and still do. Paul I prefer ( cd $DIR ; tar clf - . ) | ( cd /mnt$DESTDIR ; tar xvpBf - ) But as they say, in Linux there is Always another way! Happy Holidays. -- Real computer scientists don't program in assembler. They don't write in anything less portable than a number two pencil. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: installing libpcap
Rich cc and gcc are the c c++ compiliers which are needed to compile most of the software on Linux. I _thought_ that they were part of the base install of deselect altho you may have de-selected them. Go back into dselect and look for the compiliers and select them. The install config steps should take care of setting up the paths so that your ./configure problem. HTH Subject: installing libpcap Date: Mon, Dec 21, 1998 at 05:32:59PM -0500 In reply to:Rich McHie Quoting Rich McHie([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm new to Linux. I installed a Debian base system (2.0.34). I installed MAKE, LIBG++272, and other deb packages with dpkg. I haven't yet used MAKE. I'm trying to install libpcap.tar.z as a prerequisite to ipgrab. When I run the libpcap CONFIGURE script it says: Checking host system type... i486-pc-linux-gnuoldld checking for gcc... no checking for cc... no configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH Any ideas? -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- All programmers are playwrights and all computers are lousy actors. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Compiling apt 0.1.9 in Hamm
IIRC the version of apt for hamm is 0.1.7. 0.1.9 is for slink. Check the archives as I seem to remember that being posted her a while ago. HTH Subject: Compiling apt 0.1.9 in Hamm Date: Mon, Dec 21, 1998 at 10:07:33PM -0600 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Hello, I am trying to compile apt 0.1.9 in Hamm. The corresponding debian package depends on libstdc++2.9, while on my system, libstdc++2.8 is present (which is why I want to compile). I understand that libstdc++2.9 is the std library on Slink. Anyway, while compiling, I get the following error: Making all in contrib make[2]: Entering directory `/var/tmp/apt-0.1.9/contrib' c++ -bi486-linux -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../include -I.. -I.. \ -I. -I. -I../include -I../include -I../intl -I../intl -g -O2 -c pointer.cc ../include/pkglib/dpointer.h: In method `void DPointer::malloc(unsigned int)': In file included from pointer.cc:24: ../include/pkglib/dpointer.h:52: Internal compiler error. ../include/pkglib/dpointer.h:52: Please submit a full bug report to \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]'. make[2]: *** [pointer.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/apt-0.1.9/contrib' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/apt-0.1.9' make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2 cyano# I am using gcc 2.7.2.3 and g++ 2.90.29-0.6. The latter is from the egcs suite. Should I: 1. Change to libstdc++2.9 (Do not know what packages if any will break)? Although the error is in program compilation and not linking. 2. Install egcc and g++ from slink and then try compiling apt? As far as I can tell, all dependencies are satisfied in my current Hamm setup. I will of course file a bug report, if this is a valid bug. Could somebody tell me if this is one? Any RTFM pointers are also appreciated. One last question. It appears that egcc and gcc do not conflict. How does one decide which one to use for compiling programs? Any pros/cons of using one over the other? Thanks, Ashok [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- C, n.: A programming language that is sort of like Pascal except more like assembly except that it isn't very much like either one, or anything else. It is either the best language available to the art today, or it isn't. -- Ray Simard ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is frozen currently broken?
Subject: Re: Is frozen currently broken? Date: Tue, Dec 22, 1998 at 02:44:43AM -0500 In reply to:Ed Cogburn Quoting Ed Cogburn([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Ian Setford wrote: Yo- I would like to run several packages that require library versions on ly available in frozen. Are there any known problems with that tree right now? TIA. -Ian Talking about slink? No, I'm not aware of any problems with it now, but it was a mess about 1.5 weeks ago. -- Ed C. Oh? Well I have one problem, gnome apps are looking for a gtk library that isn't on slink. I have libgtk 1.1 and 1.3 and gnome wants 1.2. It has been that way for at least a month IIRC. -- ... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. -- Robert Firth ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gnome Not working in Slink upgrade
Just tried a new slink upgrade, again. I must have something wrong because I can't get gnome to upgrade correctly. when I run panel or eeyes I get the message: libgtk-1.1.so.2 cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory I do have libgtk-1.1.so.3 libgtk-1.1.so.1 but no libgtk-1.1.so.2. Everything _but_ gnome and its apps _seem_ to be running. Does 'anyone' have gnome running on slink? If so, I wonder what is wrong with the depends (and on What?). TIA Wayne -- Real computer scientists don't program in assembler. They don't write in anything less portable than a number two pencil. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mount -r -t iso9660...-fs not supp by kernal
Subject: mount -r -t iso9660...-fs not supp by kernal Date: Wed, Dec 23, 1998 at 10:17:41AM -0700 In reply to:Eric Drayer Quoting Eric Drayer([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I recompiled my kernal to support two chips. When I went through the make config i did not see any thing that looked like it might belong to the iso9660 file system. I need this fs to mount my cdrom. I looked in /proc/filesystem and sure enough iso9660 was not there. Also looked at the modules file and found cdrom. given: the bios and the kernal see the cdrom and identifi it correctly.before I compiled I made a single change to the kernal, which was to uncoment the line SMP=1. I read(past tense) from the cdrom using mount -r -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /cdrom just fine before the compile hypothosis 1)I need to say yes to one of these in make config..and make zImage _SYSU_FS _UFS_FS _XIA_FS _NLS _NFS_FS _NCP_FS _SMB_FS _HPFS_FS [ snip ] From my linux/.config # Filesystems CONFIG_ISO9660_FS=m CONFIG_NLS_CODEPAGE_437=m CONFIG_NLS_ISO8859_1=m These are what I use to enable the CDROM. HTH -- In a five year period we can get one superb programming language. Only we can't control when the five year period will begin. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ipfwadm
Take a look at http://www.xos.nl/linux/ipfwadm/paper/ Subject: re: ipfwadm Date: Mon, Dec 21, 1998 at 09:17:15AM +1100 In reply to:Michael Fox Quoting Michael Fox([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Anyone care to show me a quick and dirty ipfwadm script to allow ftp/http/irc/mail/dns in/out from linux machine.. I'd like to enable ipfw filters.. but stuck on the writing of the ipfw.sh script I would run.. examples would be great.. -- Michael Administrator maf networking services [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mafnet.com/ -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Real programmers disdain structured programming. Structured programming is for compulsive neurotics who were prematurely toilet-trained. They wear neckties and carefully line up pencils on otherwise qclear desks. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ppp keep alive.
Michael Should be not muxh more then pinging the ISP every 5 minutes or so. That way if it (the ISP) has a time limit, you defeat it everytime you ping. Lucky guy! HTH Subject: ppp keep alive. Date: Mon, Dec 21, 1998 at 12:20:14PM +1100 In reply to:debian Quoting debian([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Anyway care to help me write a script to keep my ppp0 device alive.. I have a permanent dialup modem.. and currently it stays connected for about 2 weeks straight at a time.. But dies on the odd ocassion. So anyway care to help me write a keep alive script that will check for ppp0 being up every 10mins.. and if it is down.. then restart the ppp0 via ppp-on script. Michael -- A LISP programmer knows the value of everything, but the cost of nothing. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WP 8 problem
Subject: Re: WP 8 problem Date: Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 11:44:24PM -0500 In reply to:Tun Yang Quoting Tun Yang([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Well I agree with Riccardo! It took me 18 hours to _finally_ get all 7 parts of the software. I found that there readme was written by someone that didn't even try to load the 7 parts. I then found that the Runme file didn't do anything (useful) so I had to figure out why .gz files were not, if fact, gzipped but tarred. Then, after looking at the Runme script, saw that it expected lowercase file names, so changed them. Ok, now to get the Runme to run. Forget it. It is looking for files that aren't there. A check of the ./linux/bin file shows that they are not executeable, in fact 'file ./linux/bin' says they are data files. OK, look on the list to see what others are finding. OK, now look for xwp. I am still looking. It isn't in the packages that I have. Look for _any_ executeables. Found Runme, which doesn't do anything but ask me if I have 'unzip'ed un-tared the files'. I find it a total waste of time and effort. I would not bother to even download it now _even_ if they said it was totally FREE. I don't understand why it took 18 hours??? it's not 180 megs or something... I got mine from ftp.cdrom.com, which gave me 2-3kps.. that ftpsite is also where I get my debian packages, so if it takes you 18 hours you should have waited for other places to mirror it... places you normally get good transfer rates with.. My download rate was between 65 Bytes/Sec up to a whoping 260 Bytes/Sec (all from download.com), with breaks of up to 15 minutes between bursts! I should have quit after an hour or so but left to get some work done and by the time I got back I was 6 hours into the download! Note that here in the mountains my 33.6K modem can only conntct to my ISP at 24K-26.4K. Thanks Bell Atlantic for the great phone lines!! As for installation, everything went virtually uneventfully... moved the file to home directory, tar xzzvf GUI* it extracted fine. read readme, not much there, ran runme, didn't work. read readme again, found out you had to run it in 'sh' shell. Ran sh. Ran runme, installed it. Ran xwp from wpbin directory. The functionality is another story though... fooling around with the software, I found some parts that said only available in commercial version. I was under the impression that it was fully functionable for personal use.. that made no mention of limited features. They should have indicated it was limited in some way. At the urging of some of my clients, I broke down and tried to get WP8 again. This time I used ftp.cdrom.com and got the FULL 23Meg package (2 Hr 45 Minutes with only 1 timeout). This package was the one to get as it _did_ work OK. The 7 package download did not work! My impression is that it is less bloat then SO4 that I had tried a few months ago. It is fast. It isn't perfect as I have had it crash, but it is very versatile and is easy to use. If what I read about the price for the Personal version costing $70, then this is a very good addition to the Linux arsenal. My only suggestion is to get the BIG 23 Meg file and not to bother with the 7 3-4 meg packages. They are a waste of time. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Swap partitioning
Subject: Swap partitioning Date: Sat, Dec 19, 1998 at 08:13:32AM -0500 In reply to:Christian Lavoie Quoting Christian Lavoie([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Figuring out that StarOffice5 is too much a resource hog (actually, SOffice + mp3 + 12 or 13 netscape windows, etc. etc.) for my current config, I've decided to add another swap partition to my Linux. I setup'ed (is that a word?) lilo and everything... Booted and took a look at 'top'. Oh surprise, NO swap memory. 0k. (See attached file) Revelant specs: Linux partition is: /dev/hda7 Current swap: /dev/hda8 New swap: /dev/hda9 64megs of RAM 1) Will adding another swap partition really help SOffice? When I was first used SO I had 124Meg of swap and had it crash on printing some of the help pages. I fixed it by adding another 128Meg of swap. Watching xosview showed that I used 230 Meg of swap to allow the pages to print _not_ crash. 2) Where does I configure Linux to take account of swap partitions? After creating the swap partitions and doing mkswap, add the partition(s) to /etc/fstab. /dev/hda11 swapswapdefaults 0 0 3) How many swap partitions Linux supports? IIRC the 2.0.x kernels allow something like 8-900M total, in chuncks of 128Meg each. Christian Lavoie UIN: 947212 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTH -- ... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. -- Robert Firth ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Addressbook problems
Subject: Addressbook problems
Date: Sat, Dec 19, 1998 at 11:18:57AM +
In reply to:Lance Hoffmeyer
Quoting Lance Hoffmeyer([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
I am learning to use 'addressbook'. It is supposed to work in either
X11 or text mode. It works in X11 but when I try to use it from a
command prompt I get the follownig error message:
application-specific initialization failed: no display name and no
$DISPLAY environment variable
can't read tk_version: no such variable
while executing
if {$tk_version == 3.6} {
set oldtkversion 1
} else {
set oldtkversion 0
}
(file /usr/bin/addressbook line 48)
what do I need to do to get addressbook working in text mode?
On the console you type:
address name
HTH
--
One good reason why computers can do more work than people is that they
never have to stop and answer the phone.
___
Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WP 8 problem
Subject: Re: WP 8 problem Date: Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 01:22:54PM + In reply to:Dave Swegen Quoting Dave Swegen([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 11:21 +0100, Riccardo Tommasini wrote: I think there is a very big difference between StarDivision, who released a real Fully Functional version of StarOffice, and Corel, who simply made us lost our time to download a useless SW. What do you mean useless? If you want a fully functional word processor with all the extra bells and whistles go download bloaty-hog staroffice. I find it rather amazing that people complain about something they paid nothing for. Granted they might have made it clearer that those functions are only available in the paid-for version. So don't be so bloody ungrateful and cheap - go and buy the full version (which doesn't cost an extortionate amount of money) if you want those features. Useless my arse... Dave Well I agree with Riccardo! It took me 18 hours to _finally_ get all 7 parts of the software. I found that there readme was written by someone that didn't even try to load the 7 parts. I then found that the Runme file didn't do anything (useful) so I had to figure out why .gz files were not, if fact, gzipped but tarred. Then, after looking at the Runme script, saw that it expected lowercase file names, so changed them. Ok, now to get the Runme to run. Forget it. It is looking for files that aren't there. A check of the ./linux/bin file shows that they are not executeable, in fact 'file ./linux/bin' says they are data files. OK, look on the list to see what others are finding. OK, now look for xwp. I am still looking. It isn't in the packages that I have. Look for _any_ executeables. Found Runme, which doesn't do anything but ask me if I have 'unzip'ed un-tared the files'. I find it a total waste of time and effort. I would not bother to even download it now _even_ if they said it was totally FREE. -- | LINUX - Because a PC is a terrible thing to waste..on WinDoze | ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WP 8 problem
Subject: Re: WP 8 problem Date: Fri, Dec 18, 1998 at 02:27:28PM -0500 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): In a message dated 12/18/98 1:08:53 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well I agree with Riccardo! It took me 18 hours to _finally_ get all 7 parts of the software. I found that there readme was written by someone that didn't even try to load the 7 parts. I then found that the Runme file didn't do anything (useful) so I had to figure out why .gz files were not, if fact, gzipped but tarred. Then, after looking at the Runme script, saw that it expected lowercase file names, so changed them. Ok, now to get the Runme to run. Forget it. It is looking for files that aren't there. A check of the ./linux/bin file shows that they are not executeable, in fact 'file ./linux/bin' says they are data files. OK, look on the list to see what others are finding. OK, now look for xwp. I am still looking. It isn't in the packages that I have. Look for _any_ executeables. Found Runme, which doesn't do anything but ask me if I have 'unzip'ed un-tared the files'. I find it a total waste of time and effort. I would not bother to even download it now _even_ if they said it was totally FREE. Sorry, but I didn't experience ANY of the problems you're having... Well congrats, I am glad you had no problems. 1) The filenames are in lowercase to begin with, I really can't see complaining if your download changed the case of the names. Granted, the What? Do you mean you got gui00.gz, gui[1-6]0.gz and not GUI[0-6]0.GZ files? You didn't, like all the others who mentioned this, get Upper-Case files? 2) My download took all of 2 hours for all 7 parts - and then I downloaded the full version for grins. NO problems at all. Well I screwed up and used download.com :-( 3) The install instructions at download time specifically say gunzip it, then tar it. I have the printed page of the download screen in front of me. As I had plenty of reading time :-( , I have read it more then once. I am unable to find the info that says to gunzip the files. Which BTW was false anyway as the files were only tar'ed. I do see tho that the single file is listed at 23.6 Meg. Others report it to be 27 Meg. 4) Data files can also be executible, depending on their access rights. VT1 root-S33:/program/NEW/WP8# ls -l ./linux/bin/* -rw-r--r-- 1 424 users 2770843 Nov 12 02:40 ./linux/bin/archfltr -rw-r--r-- 1 424 users 42186 Feb 6 1998 ./linux/bin/cjpeg -rw-r--r-- 1 424 users 731160 Dec 8 00:25 ./linux/bin/cvt -rw-r--r-- 1 424 users 52410 Feb 6 1998 ./linux/bin/djpeg [snip] As I said above the linux/bin dir contains data files not executeable files, at least from the 7 files I downloaded. 5) Waste of time and effort? Hardly... I have always loved Word Perfect, and even when my office standards require me to use Word97 on my machine, I still have a copy of WP loaded that I use instead. I've used it since the early DOS days. Now I find that I can get a free copy of it for use on my Debian machine? Fan-f'n'-tastic!! Yep a 2 hour, in your case - 18 Hr in mine, download and you can use it FREE for 90 Days. 6) As for the eqution/graphics capabilities... This is a free demo version folks. And further, if there are packages (like Lyx) that do it better, why not use them!! All I know is I have a great word processor for Debian now, one that I've used for years and have grown to love. I wouldn't know about this, remember I spent 18 hours downloading, for nothing. BTW, Thanks to those who sent mail telling me that they also had tried the 7 part download and found it didn't work They also say the BIG 27 Meg one does, in fact, work. Thanks for the info but I have had it with WP8. I really had high hopes for it too. My 2 cents. -Jay -- USER, n.: The word computer professionals use when they mean idiot. -- Dave Barry, Claw Your Way to the Top ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bitchy 486
Subject: bitchy 486 Date: Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 04:57:07PM + In reply to:Kenneth Scharf Quoting Kenneth Scharf([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I have put together a 486DX2-66 machine from old parts. It's a vers-local bus machine with 8M of dram, 200mb disk drive (I have a 2g I can swap in), an 8x ide cdrom drive, and a cirrus based vesa local bus video card (boca) with 1m on it (add two chips for 2m). I have tried to boot slackware and debian on it (so far havn't tried red hat). Initially the cdrom was on a second ide card as it's own master, now its a slave to the hd on the pri ide. Reason was that slackware reported the cd as an IDE TAPE when on the second card! It reports correctly when it's on the pri card Slackware installed ok, except for it would not activate a swap partition. I tried to boot the debian rescue disk and got about halfway there when it failed with 'boot failed' Any ideas what 'boot failed' means? (I can boot slackware 3.4 'bare' and 'color' disks ok, also windoz 95 boot disk boots ok). Sounds familiar. I have installed Debian 3 different times and have seen that error message each time. I solved it by re-making the rescue disk. Got so that I made 2-3 of _each_ disk, just in case. I don't think is is Debian, just crappy disks! HTH -- You can't make a program without broken egos. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailing list problems, printing
Subject: mailing list problems, printing Date: Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 12:30:17PM -0600 In reply to:Brian Morgan Quoting Brian Morgan([EMAIL PROTECTED]): 1.I'm not receiving any of the emails from the list, for the last couple of hours. I can post (obviously), but I am not receiving mail from the list, unless it addressed specifically to me. Any thoughts? 2.Having trouble printing using lpr. I assume I'm doing this right. I type lpr -Pprintername FILENAME and I get a cover page, a page DESCRIBING the desired file, and then a blank sheet. When I print from Netscape, it either prints hundreds of blank pages, or hundreds of pages with jumbled text. Here's my printcap entry: kingsnake|laserjet 4 in computer room :lp=:\ :rm=kingsnake :rp=raw :sd=/var/spool/lpd/kingsnake :mx#0 :sh I've also tried :rp=text, with same results. Any suggestions? 3.Is there anything special you need to do to get netscape to print specific frames? Thanks == Brian Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Support Specialist http://brian.greenville.edu IBM Mobile Systems Specialist 618-664-2800 ext. 4241 Information Technology618-338-4963 pager Greenville College, ILICQ: 13798434 Have you installed the magicfilter package? If you haven't, that is the 'sure fix' to printing problems. I have used it even on distributions that don't include it. Works every time. HTH -- ... one of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. -- Robert Firth ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Utility to set PC clock
Subject: Re: Utility to set PC clock Date: Thu, Dec 17, 1998 at 05:31:53PM +1030 In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Does anyone know a program that will get a time from some source on the net and set the system clock based on EST? I could add it to my ip-up script and the computer would never fall far behind. Firstly, I would recommend that you use universal coordinated time (Greenwich Meantime or however you spell it) on your system clock. Then you can set the timezone in software so that time shows up properly. Secondly, I think there is some way of getting your machine to automatically adjust for time drift, but I don't know what it is. I use adjtimex for that. Keeps the clock within miliseconds. Thirdly, here is how you can set your time from the net: netdate is the command I used to get the time on the net. Eg you could do: netdate -v tick.usno.navy.mil Sometimes a particular time server may be down, in which case you should try another one. Or #Now set the system clock from some Internet Time servers # Penn St. Univ NCDeleware MIT netdate 128.118.46.3 192.101.21.1 128.175.60.175 18.72.0.3 # To write the time to your hardware clock, you use the command hwclock. For example, with your hardware clock on universal time: hwclock --systohc --utc Yes thats what the manual says but I can get it to work! I have TZ=EST-5 in /etc/profile and the hwclock gets set 5 hours off? Thats been bugging me for 2 weeks now. date and clock are the same but hwclock --show is 5 hours off. I am still working on that. I am trying to set the date to EST and the CMOS to GMT. I think will do the trick. Feel free to correct me anyone if I've made a mistake. Cheers, Mark. _/\___/~~\ /~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips /~~\_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_ /~~\__/~~\ __ They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Corel® WordPerfect® 8 for Linux® is here! (fwd)
Subject: Re: Corel® WordPerfect® 8 for Linux® is here! (fwd) Date: Thu, Dec 17, 1998 at 04:03:06AM + In reply to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Dear Jason and Jill, Any idea what time it will become available? It's already Thursday on more than 2/3 of the globe, but the download.com site still says it'll be available 'tomorrow.';-) jason and jill wrote: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 17:47:59 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux mail-out [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Corel® WordPerfect® 8 for Linux® is here! Corel® WordPerfect® 8 for Linux® is here! Corel is pleased to announce that the Corel® WordPerfect® 8 for Linux® free download will be available tomorrow (Thursday, Dec. 17), exclusively from CNET at http://www.download.com! Its there. I am downloading the 7 parts now. 23MEG! Hope it is better then Star Office! -- David Coe mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] R D and Support +1-410-489-9521 Overlord, Inc. http://www.overlord.com -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Nobody said computers were going to be polite. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: switch off Debian
Subject: RE:RE: switch off Debian Date: Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 12:03:56AM -0800 In reply to:Michael Wahl Quoting Michael Wahl([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Good Morning everybody !!! I'd like to thank you for your quick and good help. It seems I need some basic instructions for working with Debian/Linux. Is there a good documentation / book for REAL greenhorns? (With basic syntax, commands and so on) Bye Michael, Trier, Germany Michael Michael I seem to recommend 2 books more then any others, both from O'Reilly. Both are in English but your posts show that would be no problem for you. Running Linux by Matt Welsh and Lar Kaufman (2nd edition is now out) Linux in a nutshell by Jessica Perry Hekman after that A Practical Guide to Linux by Mark G. Sobell Published by Addison-Wesley Hepe that this helps. -- Windows95 (noun): 32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: strange modem behaviour
Subject: strange modem behaviour Date: Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 01:43:13PM +0100 In reply to:Lukas Eppler Quoting Lukas Eppler([EMAIL PROTECTED]): When using my modem by ppp, everything works fine, always. But when trying to dial with the following script (which I plan to use out of a database), it sometimes hangs at the stty command. I have a Laptop using a ClipperCom World V.34 PCMCIA Modem. Removing it and reinserting does not solve the problem. I am not sure if the ppp command shuts down the possibility to access it. With minicom I can talk to the modem even when the dial script here is not working anymore. It has nothing to do with blacklisting. Any hints? #!/bin/bash stty 115200 /dev/modem echo ATF0M3 /dev/modem echo ATDT $1 /dev/modem sleep 8 echo ATH /dev/modem in my /etc/chatscrips/provider: ABORTBUSY ABORTNO CARRIER ABORTVOICE ABORT NO DIALTONE ATF0%VM0 Try ATF0%VM0 OK ATDT 0840 840 888 ogin T44 word \wonttell in my etc/ppp/peers/provider: noauth defaultroute /dev/modem 115200 -- http://www.fear.ch telnet://mud.fear.ch: finger://[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bülachstrasse 7a, 8057 Zürich, +41 1 313 07 87 (home) -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Real computer scientists don't comment their code. The identifiers are so long they can't afford the disk space. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt colours
Subject: Mutt colours Date: Wed, Dec 16, 1998 at 04:44:29PM + In reply to:Patrick Colbeck Quoting Patrick Colbeck([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Reply-To: Hi This isn't really important but here goes anyway. I have over the last week or so being introducing myself to Debian and playing with Hamm and Slink. At one point my Mutt mailer was running with a nice colour setup (not one I made rather it was installed by one of the Mutt debs I used) that used quite a lot of green rather than the usual red and blue setup. I have reinstalled my machine with Hamm and a few bits of Slink and now it has gone back to the old red and blue config. Does anyone know where the other colour scheme came from as it was much easier on the eyes. For the life of me I can't figure out which mutt dep it was in. Pat Pat The colors (sorry colours) are setup in your .muttrc file. The Manual covers it very well. Here is an example from my .muttrc color attachment green black # .. color treeredblack # index color header brightyellow black ^Cc: color header brightyellow black ^Date:# pager header color headercolor4 color6 ^Subject: color indicator white blue # index color normal white black # pager body color quoted brightyellow black # pager body color quoted1 brightcyan black color quoted2 brightgreen black color signature redblack # pager body color status white blue # index status bar default: black white color index red default ~z10k HTH -- The problem with program verifiers is that they tend to cheat at toy problems in order to get results. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with the mailing-list?
Subject: Re: Problem with the mailing-list? Date: Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 11:10:55AM +1030 In reply to:Mark Phillips Quoting Mark Phillips([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I didnt receive the debian-user-digest for 4 days now. Do you have troubles with it? No, I don't think so. Maybe there were some troubles with your e-mail account, and you have been deleted from the list (it happened to me once...)? Subscribe again, and everything should be fine. Actually, I too have not received debian-user-digest to several days. I only received this email because I have just subscribed to debian-user (as opposed to debian-user-digest). So perhaps there is a problem with debian-user-digest? Or perhaps it's just that both of us were unsubscribed? I am having the same problem with debian-user-digest and debian-devel-digest. None received since Dec 10. Cheers, Mark. _/\___/~~\ /~~\_/~~\__/~~\__Mark_Phillips /~~\_/[EMAIL PROTECTED] /~~\HE___/~~\__/~~\APTAIN_ /~~\__/~~\ __ They told me I was gullible ... and I believed them! -- Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] /dev/null -- Pascal Users: To show respect for the 313th anniversary (tomorrow) of the death of Blaise Pascal, your programs will be run at half speed. ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: switch off Debian
Subject: Re: switch off Debian Date: Tue, Dec 15, 1998 at 02:16:05PM -0600 In reply to:Kent West Quoting Kent West([EMAIL PROTECTED]): On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Michael Wahl wrote: Hello out there, After all I finally installed DEBIAN. And, what else, I have a question: When I successfully logout, a knew login appears. Know I switch off the computer. When I switch it on again, there is a check for some stuff. Is this right? Or have I not correctly finished it? Thanks Michael, Trier, Germany No, you need to do a shutdown -r now and then wait until the machine starts to reboot before powering it off. Or, if you don't want to reboot, or wait for it to start re-booting do shutdown -h now and when you see the 'system is halted' you can saftly turn off the power. Or you can press Ctrl-Alt-Delete to accomplish the same thing (in Debian; not all Linux/UNIX variants do this). This shuts down the machine properly. It's similar to shutting down Windows95 instead of just killing the power switch. There are other shutdown options as well; but this will satisfy your needs for today. -- Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] KC5ENO - Amateur Radio: When all else fails. Linux - Finally! A real OS for the Intel PC! Life is an ongoing classroom. - Capt. James T. Kirk, Dreadnought ___ Wayne T. Topa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
