Re: preferred dialup program
Jeff Maxson wrote: is there a best dialup program? I have been using wvdial, and it seems to work ok, so I guess don't fix what ain't broke, but maybe another program is somehow better... I used xisp, works fairly ok, automatically redials, keeps track of time (and price, if you pay for time connected), tries different numbers etc... that was useful when my isp had problems (sometime one number didn't work but other worked) later on I just used pon/poff in combination with gkrellm - just hit button on gkrellm to connect, it shows when the connection is up and amount of data transferred (real time, no statistics). if there's any problem, tail -f /var/log/syslog (or /var/log/ppp.log) to see what's going on. erik
Re: line numbers in code
john gennard wrote: I'm having to look for certain lines in code and have been doing so by laboriously counting down the program. As many error messages make reference to line numbers, I feel sure there must be a simple way to locate say 'line 1267' How do people go about this? in vi you can also type (esc if you're in insert mode) :set number to see the line numbers... the other way (kinda perverse) to do it is: when you're at the beginning of the file, type in the number of the line - 1 and press j (to go down that number of lines)... erik
mico: where are the examples?
I have just re-installed the mess of a mico (how is one supposed to know which packages are needed? and which are for which version?) and suddenly the examples that used to be under /usr/share/doc/mico (or some other mico doc directory) are gone. Are the examples/docs for mico packaged or are these files gone? TIA erik = I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/
Re: Adding stuff to menus
Cameron Matheson wrote: Hey, I have a bunch of programs that I've compiled over time, and I kind of want to add them to the debian menus. How would I do this? Is this window-manager specific, or is their a global way to do this? It seems if I do use a window manager's configuration utility, everytime I install a new package, it overrides the menu. it's fairly easy, check the docs for menu package, check also the /usr/lib/menu directory where the menu files for various debian packages are. you can add yours to /etc/menu run update-menus after you add/change menu, then restart you window manager (it is usually possible without restarting X, so all your applications etc. are intact... erik
Re: mouseman wheel on X
tek kno3 wrote: Hi all, i'like some help to make the mouseman wheel work on netscape (if it does!?). running potato 2.2.19pre17-ide; XF 3.3.6, enlightenment 16.2, netscape 4.77 i managed ok (Zaxis on XFconfig) to make the wheel work (eg. w/ xterm) but nothing w/ netscape. later included definitions in .Xdefaults (as indicated in http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ ) and nothing... so any help? where can i get more info/help about this definitions in .Xdefaults? or maybe you could suggest me another forum to look for it? I have cordless mouseman wheel and here's my setup: relevant part of XF86Config-4: Section InputDevice Identifier Logitech Driver mouse Option CorePointer # erik: MouseManPlusPS/2 - only three buttons work, no wheel # OptionProtocol MouseManPlusPS/2 # erik: IMPS/2 works, except of a side button Option Protocol IMPS/2 # erik: Explorer/2 works, except of a side button # OptionProtocol ExplorerPS/2 # erik: PS/2 - only three buttons work, no wheel # works too: Option Protocol PS/2 Option Device/dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttons false Option Buttons 6 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 # OptionZAxisMapping 5 6 EndSection I have also attached the ~/.Xdefaults (mostly netscape settings) that I recently got from Andrea Vettorello (on this list I believe, thanks again!) the fourth button doesn't work no matter what I do... anybody got it working? erik!- vim ! GVim great Colors. Vim*useSchemes: all Vim*sgiMode:true Vim*useEnhancedFSB: true !Vim.foreground: Black !Vim.background:lightyellow2 Vim*background: white ! Do NOT use Vim*geometry , this will break the menus instead ! use Vim.geometry. Asterisk between Vim and geometry is not allowed. ! Vim.geometry: widthxheight !Vim.geometry: 88x40 !Vim*font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--20-200-75-75-c-100-iso8859-15-*5 Vim*menuBackground: #001500 Vim*menuForeground: #b0ffb0 !- netscape ! There are 7 font sizes, 1 thru 7. The default font is 3, and the others ! are based on this. The default increment is 20%, which means that the 4 ! is 20% larger than the 3, the 5 is 40% larger, and so on. ! ! Netscape*documentFonts.sizeIncrement: 6 ! stuff copied from Karsten M. Self !## NETSCAPE # These are Netscape X resource settings I've found useful. The # interesting stuff is colorfully commented at the end of the file. # Public domain. # Karsten M. Self 2000/12/26 09:44:45 !Netscape*drawingArea.translations: #merge\ ! Btn1Down: ArmLink() \n\ ! Btn2Down: ArmLink() \n\ ! ~ShiftBtn1Up: ActivateLink() \n\ ! ~ShiftBtn2Up: ActivateLink(new-window) \ ! DisarmLink()\n\ ! ShiftBtn1Up: ActivateLink(save-only) \ ! DisarmLink()\n\ ! ShiftBtn2Up: ActivateLink(save-only) \ ! DisarmLink()\n\ ! Btn1Motion:DisarmLinkIfMoved() \n\ ! Btn2Motion:DisarmLinkIfMoved() \n\ ! Btn3Motion:DisarmLinkIfMoved() \n\ ! Motion:DescribeLink() \n\ ! Btn3Down: xfeDoPopup()\n\ ! Btn3Up:ActivatePopup() \n\ ! CtrlBtn4Down: PageUp()\n\ ! CtrlBtn5Down: PageDown()\n\ ! ShiftBtn4Down: LineUp()\n\ ! ShiftBtn5Down: LineDown()\n\ ! NoneBtn4Down: LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\ ! NoneBtn5Down: LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\n\ ! AltBtn4Down: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\ ! AltBtn5Down: xfeDoCommand(back)\n ! ShiftKeyspace: PageUp()\n\ ! Keyspace: PageDown()\n\ ! KeyBackSpace: xfeDoCommand(back)\n\ ! KeyLeft: xfeDoCommand(back)\n\ ! KeyRight: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n !Netscape*globalNonTextTranslations: #merge\ ! ShiftBtn4Down: LineUp()\n\ ! ShiftBtn5Down: LineDown()\n\ ! NoneBtn4Down: LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()LineUp()\n\ ! NoneBtn5Down: LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()LineDown()\n\ ! AltBtn4Down: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n\ ! AltBtn5Down: xfeDoCommand(back)\n ! Keyspace: PageDown()\n\ ! KeyBackSpace: xfeDoCommand(back)\n\ ! KeyLeft: xfeDoCommand(back)\n\ ! KeyRight: xfeDoCommand(forward)\n # Restrict the range of size increments allowed by font size=n directives to # the range 80% - 120% rather than 50% - 210%. Default increment is 20. # KMSelf Wed Dec 29 15:47:57 PST 1999
Re: Prog. Languages (was: question?)
Romain Lerallut wrote: ... Usually, you choose a language depending on what you want done. YMMV. yes, that's most important - depending on what you will do/what interests you, choose appropriate language... in general, go for design/analysis not for particular language - programming is fairly abstract science/art/magic... 1) start with interpreted languages, such as Perl. ( not Python which is strongly object-oriented). It's easy to create a proglet that is useful , and very satisfying. 2a) then learn about object-oriented languages (Java, Python). I would advise *against* starting with an OO language, since it *might* be harder to come back to non-OO languages. I'd say it's the other way around - learn OO first and use it, even if the language does not support it. never go back to straight structural programming... 2b) then learn about compiled languages such as C. C is harder to program than interpreted languages, mostly because of memory management issues, but it is also IMHO very elegantly written. learn C++ where you don't have to deal with memory that much and you have lot of fairly convenient data types/structures/containers that take care of themselves (strings, arrays etc.) you might also try java but I find it quite simplistic and messy (just learning it so my opinion is not very authoritative) erik
Re: line numbers in code
Alan Shutko wrote: D-Man [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Naw, (g)vim is much better wink (I have tried emacs, and that is my conclusion, now go make your own after trying both) Sure... does (g)vim include Tetris? Or a text adventure? Or a shrink to help your mind cope with the constant mode changes? How anyone could tolerate something as unuseful as vim is beyond me. the thing is that vim is a text editor. erik
Re: xserver
Derya PALANCI wrote: Hi all, How can i stop a working-but-invisible x server?? I had just installed Xfree 4.0, debian potato and kernel 2.4.5. after the configuration i started x server but it was very big so i wanted to close it. But i couldnt manage and press all the combinations of ctrl alt and backspace after some time it closed. So i restarted comp. Now i configured it but couldnt run. It says :server already running Is there anybody out there knows what can i do press alt-F7 (ctrl-alt-F1-6 to get to text console) to see invisible X server if you are running xdm use: /etc/init.d/xdm stop to stop xdm (and X server), if you just run straight X (using e.g. startx) you can pres ctrl-alt-backspace to quit X server. erik
Re: [OT] True console in X?
Lance Simmons wrote: On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 01:06:23AM -0500, ktb wrote: What would be ideal is to be able to emulate the look of console in X and run that on one or more workspaces. Use uwm as your window manager, edit the uwmrc.hook file to make the borders black and one or two pixels wide, and get rid of the title bar entirely. Edit the uwmrc-ws.hook file so you have a black desktop on the workspaces where you want your consoles. you can do this with other WMs as well (defintely with fvwm, I am not 100% sure about others) ... What makes it work is that uwm lets you have a window border as narrow as a single pixel, and doesn't require a title bar. at least some WMs (again, I am sure about fvwm only) can turn all the decorations off (border, title etc.) erik
Re: tabs / was [OT] Coding w/ vim
will trillich wrote: ... one tab, indent one level. done. (why clutter up your source code with all those spaces?) and if you really go overboard ... it's very simple. generally you want lot of peole to view and/or edit the source code. as long as you use spaces only, it looks the same everywhere - printouts, different editors, when you send piece of code via email etc... when people edit the source code it is fairly easy to keep it consistent. on the other hand, when you use tabs other than 8 characters wide you get a mess of very unplesant combination of tabs, some tabs expanded to 8 some to 4,3,2 spaces... also, you will never be able to change tabs to other then 8 characters everywhere (e.g. think of various devices - character based, printers, gui tools etc...) generally, it's a good idea to use 8-space tabs or spaces... it makes it easier to collaborate communicate... erik
/etc/init.d/alsa stop does not work?
since about the time alsa in debian was upgraded to .9 there seems to be no way to unload alsa modules, /etc/init.d/alsa stop does not work and rmmod individual modules (the ones that no other module depends on does not work), it does not complain about anything but modules are not unloaded. any ideas? anybody else has the same problem? (can't get to bugs.deban.org) TIA erik
Re: filtering email via perl?
will trillich wrote: ... how can i use perl to break emails into various mailfolders? I remember seeing something fairly capable in perl journal, don't remember the name, check the cpan.org erik
Re: ftp reget via netscape?
Alan Davis wrote: The amazing thing is that netscape on my sid machine DID have the desired behavior, just like the standard FTP. Automatically, it started at the end of the incomplete file on my disk, and FTPd the rest. I wish to know what is the difference, since Netscape on the woody box didn't exhibit this nice behavior. from my experience: it looks like netscape uses reget in some special cases only, you cannot force it to use reget, I am not sure how netscape decides it should use reget, quite often it just overwrites the file. I think it only uses reget when there was a communication error, in other cases it does not do reget (e.g. when netscape crashes, you start it again, it just overwrites files that were not fully downloaded) there might be some didfferences between sid and woody version though... erik
Re: right way to set system-wide environment variables
Steve Kowalik wrote: On Wed, Jun 06, 2001 at 08:35:13PM -0400, Daniel Barclay uttered: What's the right way to set system-wide environmen variables (one place to put environment variables to set for all logins for all users). /etc/profile, of course. (for bash shells - tcsh, i don't know) what about /etc/environment? isn't it were default environment for all shells is set? erik
CTRL-ALT-Fn doesn't work (potato, sparc)
I have a sun sparcstation with debian potato installed. everything works (so far) but ctrl-alt-fn has strange effect - it switches to given virtual console (few times) but then the only effect is having strange characters (two per keystroke usually) displayed on the screen, I cannot login (enter does not work, even though usually some of the keys works as enter the login is never successfull). is there any help? TIA erik
Re: Multiple Sessions?
Chris Spencer wrote: Has anyone else running Unstable noticed that multiple tty sessions (ie: ALT-CTRL-F1, F2, etc.) is gone? As well I have noticed that I can't start a second X session. Am I missing something? gone in what way? works fine here but I haven't dist-upgrade'd in few days. check /etc/inittab, there should be something like this: 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty1 2:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty2 3:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty3 4:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty4 5:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty5 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 also check default run level (same file): # The default runlevel. id:2:initdefault: on a related note, the switching to virtual consoles (from X) doesn't work on my sparcstation running debian stable (potato). it works few times (I think), then keyboard goes all crazy (when I type there are strange characters appearing on the screen and I cannot switch to different virtual consoles anymore). any ideas? erik
Re: program response sluggish compared to Win98
rich wrote: Howdy all, I've had a problem for a while in which my potato sytem seems to perform relatively sluggishly - most noticably on Wordperfect. Example: While WP8 under W98, I can hold the page down key for 5 seconds, and when I let go, the scroll immediately stops. Doing the same under linux, however, would result in a minute-long scroll through several dozen pages after the key was let go. Is there a keyboard buffer that I can adjust or something, or does the problem lie elsewhere, or is linux WP8 just not as well-designed? you might want to check the x server settings - the acceleration should be turned on. other than that it might be just poorly implemented application - is it sluggish for one app only or for everything? or poorly accelerated x... erik
Re: ripping quiet CDs
Ben Harvey wrote: On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 01:48:35AM -0500, Jason Pepas wrote: in short, it sounds like normalization is exactly what you want. OK fair enough. so that means I can filter a .WAV through normalize before compression - with a little trial error. any ripper recommendations? abcde looks good (I like the name too ;) but it doesn't seem to allow me to add this sort of filter. do I lose much quality if I mp3wavnormalizemp3 ? I like grip. not sure about abcde nut in grip you can set the wav filter, I guess that's what you want. but even if it's not you can simply set-up the ripper to be a shell script that does rip+normalize instead of just rip. I guess you can do something similar in abcde... definitely don't go wav-mp3-wav-mp3 (there's no reason and you're loosing quality) erik
Re: ripping quiet CDs
Michael P. Soulier wrote: On Sat, Jun 09, 2001 at 02:26:15AM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote: I like grip. not sure about abcde nut in grip you can set the wav filter, I guess that's what you want. but even if it's not you can simply set-up the ripper to be a shell script that does rip+normalize instead of just rip. I guess you can do something similar in abcde... I'm doing this myself in grip right now. The manpage says that the default normalize setting is 0.25. Do you use anything else? I always used the default and I don't see any way to change it in grip config dialogs so I guess that's what the wav filter command would be for (not sure which program is the best for normalize, I guess there's something in sox) erik
Re: netscape4.5
jean jacques moscovitz wrote: comment trouver netscape 4.5 qui est mieux pour mol que le 6 tel 0143250211 DR MOSCOVITZ 2 RUE MABILLON PARIS 6eme merci html post black font on black background (I was only able to read it when I selected the text:-) and in french. how hard do you want to make it for anybody willing to respond? erik
Re: do you know any free proxy server?
Roderick Cummings wrote:
From: ktb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: do you know any free proxy server?
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:44:07 -0500
On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 06:21:30AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm assuming www -
squid
You could easily search yourself at -
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
Search for proxy and select Descriptions
hth,
kent
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What about ftp? I would like to point apt to something local to reduce the
burden on *.debian.org, but I think setting up a mirror would be overkill
that would waste even more of debian's bandwidth.
just switch the apt to do http transfers, this is from my
/etc/apt/apt.conf (you might want to tweak it a bit, not sure how
optimal it is):
http {
Proxy http://127.0.0.1:3128;;
//Proxy::http.us.debian.org DIRECT; // Specific per-host setting
Timeout 120;
Pipeline-Depth 5;
// Cache Control. Note these do not work with Squid 2.0.2
//No-Cache false;
//Max-Age 86400; // 1 Day age on index files
//No-Store false;// Prevent the cache from storing archives
};
erik
Re: Power button doesn't work
Derek Hans wrote: Is it normal that my power button doesn't work? After running shutdown -h now, the system shuts down and issues a message saying Power down. However, when I hit the power button, the computer just beeps but still stays on. The only thing I can then do is a VERY hard reset: take out the batteries (it's a laptop, compaq contura 400c) and unplug it. Nothing else responds. This doesn't seem to be the normal way to shut off a computer. Just wondering if there is a different way... For the moment, I'm just letting it running all the time, however there doesn't seem to be a power saving mode activated automatically, and so the screen stays on all day. Besides, it gets rather hot over time - I'm not quite sure if the fan is adequate for this. I'm not decided if it's worse for the computer to shut it off the HARD way or keeping it running all day night. Help would be apreciated. do you use apm? you might need to recompile kernel... also check laptop howto (www.linuxdoc.org), there might be something about your laptop. also check http://www.linux-laptop.net/ for 'case studies' erik
Re: [users] Re: Why can't I?
Ethan Benson wrote: On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 01:11:49PM -0400, D-Man wrote: By make my machine download things do you mean that he logs in and uses ftp or a web browser? If so, then he ought to be downloading the stuff into his own home directory. By default (and quite naturally) users _can't_ see someone else's home directory unless that person explicitly makes it readable. wrong, debian creates home directories mode 755, world readable by default like all other *nixes that have come before it. one of the packages asks whether you want world readable user home dirs, forgot which one (probably the one that contains adduser). erik
apache apache-ssl upgrade mess
I have apache-ssl installed (and working) but now the apt-get wants to uninstall it and install apache instead. there is a conflict: apache-ssl requires apache-common (= 1.3.19-1), apache-common ( 1.3.20) but it also tries to install apache-common 1.3.20-1. This part is fairly clear - I'll just wait till they fix it (I filed a bug). apt-get also wants to install apache package - why? this is the confusing part. is it because I have packages that require apache or apache-ssl (or other http server) and apt-get picks the one that installable? TIA erik
packages depending on guile
it looks like there's more and more packages depending on guile in one way or another and they are not installable: gnucash conflicts: [-] libguppi11 (= 0.35.5) [-] libgwrapguile1 scwm conflicts: [-] libguile6 (= 1:1.3.4-2) [-] libguile6 these problems are quite old - does anybody have more info on why they are not fixed? and if they'll ever be? bugs are filed but nothing seems to be happening... TIA erik
Re: MouseMan ??
Ed Falis wrote: I got the mouse up and running (bothe Debian FreeBSD) except for the wheel. I would assume that the wheel is used to scroll up and down in lieu of the scroll bars in an apt such as Netscape. I did add the OptionZAxisMapping4 5 to my XF86Config file but the only thing I can use the wheel for is clicking like a middle mouse button. Any ideas? BTW... What is the thumb button for? I've got this mouse working using: Section InputDevice Identifier Generic Mouse Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Device/dev/psaux Option Protocol ImPS/2 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection This is with XFREE86 4.0.x The wheel generally works. The thumb button duplicates button 2. is there any way to set thumb (side) button to do something else? like double click? erik
Re: how do I find out which device this bit of dmesg refers to?
Britton wrote: I get a message like this is dmesg: PCI: No IRQ known for interrupt pin A of device 00:0f.0. Please try using pci=biosirq. I think this first showed up around kernel version 2.4.4. Anyone know what might be causing it or how you figure out which device is 00:0f.0? try lspci, here's output on my system: jojda:/etc/X11/fvwm# lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C693A/694x [Apollo PRO133x] (rev c4) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C598/694x [Apollo MVP3/Pro133x AGP] 00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 40) 00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev 16) 00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UHCI USB (rev 16) 00:07.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 40) 00:07.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50) 00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139 (rev 10) 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: D-Link System Inc: Unknown device 1300 (rev 10) 00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo 3 (rev 01) jojda:/etc/X11/fvwm# so I guess on my system it would be voodoo card, I guess those number at the beginning of the line refer to the same 'something' that your number refers to... erik
Re: MouseMan ??
Hall Stevenson wrote: This is with XFREE86 4.0.x The wheel generally works. The thumb button duplicates button 2. is there any way to set thumb (side) button to do something else? like double click? I think XFree86 only makes the buttons available. It doesn't necessarily define *what* the buttons do. You may look into xmodmap and what you're window manager can do. the problem here is that I was never able to make it work as six button mouse (left, middle, right, wheel up, wheel down, side), it always pretends to have just 5 buttons. so there's nothing I can do with xmodmap. I have following settings in /etc/XF86Config-4: Section InputDevice Identifier Logitech Cordless MouseMan Wheel Driver mouse Option CorePointer Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device/dev/psaux Option Emulate3Buttons false Option Buttons 6 Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection I ran: xmodmap -e pointer = 1 2 3 4 5 6 yet the xev shows that both clicking the middle button (clicking with the wheel) and clicking the side button both produce the both result: ButtonPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0x221, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 868716552, (2,140), root:(1024,285), state 0x0, button 2, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0x221, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 868716751, (2,140), root:(1024,285), state 0x200, button 2, same_screen YES ButtonPress event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0x221, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 868717677, (2,140), root:(1024,285), state 0x0, button 2, same_screen YES ButtonRelease event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0x221, root 0x32, subw 0x0, time 868717850, (2,140), root:(1024,285), state 0x200, button 2, same_screen YES running: xmodmap -e pointer = 2 1 3 4 5 6 makes the clicking the physical leftmost button to be understood as button 2 by xev and both middle button and side button are understood as 1! I tried: xmodmap -e pointer = 6 2 3 4 5 1 which makes physical button one act as button 6 (xev is my witness) but side button is still button 2 (as far as xev is concerned). it looks like no matter what I do the sidebutton is tied to middle button. It is definitely not hardware because in windows the side button has function independent of middle button. Is it a bug/feature of X mouse driver? Does it make sense to file a bug? (it's not filed yet, at least I haven't found anything that would look like the problem above) erik
Re: MouseMan ??
Ashley Clark wrote: * Christopher W. Aiken in Re: MouseMan ?? dated 2001/06/18 21:17 * wrote: Thanks Hall. I got the mouse up and running (bothe Debian FreeBSD) except for the wheel. I would assume that the wheel is used to scroll up and down in lieu of the scroll bars in an apt such as Netscape. I did add the Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 to my XF86Config file but the only thing I can use the wheel for is clicking like a middle mouse button. Any ideas? I have the non-optical version of this mouse working with these settings: Section InputDevice Identifier Configured Mouse Drivermouse OptionDevice/dev/psaux OptionProtocolMouseManPlusPS/2 OptionButtons 6 OptionZAxisMapping5 6 OptionSendCoreEvents true EndSection and this in .xmodmap: pointer = 1 6 3 2 4 5 The thing to remember is that the wheel counts as two buttons and for X apps to recognize it then they must be buttons 4 and 5, I've set up the thumb button to be the middle button since I have a problem with moving the wheel when I try to click it to paste. works great, here's another question: does anybody know if it's possible to set up the side button (or any button for that matter) to act as double click? I can remap buttons any way I like (there are six buttons (including wheel) so each of them can be arbitrary 'logical' button 1 through 6) but how do I remap button to some other action? is it possible? TIA erik
Re: e-mail, the next level
nico de haer wrote: ... You have: - Debian server (mine is called gardian) able to connect to the internet: - Mail user agent on your client, that understands POP3 and SMTP (do you know one that doesn't?) - There is no permanent link to the Internet (Using a modem, thus in most cases Dynamic IP's) - All users got their own POP3 account (from your ISP or yahoo, probably more options) You want: - You want all users to be able to do e-mail as if they are on-line all the time getting email: fetchamil procmail (or something equivalent) should do the trick. if you're connected for long periods of time it might be good enough to set fetchamil to check for email with set period (say every 10 minutes). If the server is mostly disconnected you might want to run fetchmail everytime the connection goes up or even set cronjob to connect-fetchmail-disconnect priodically (with a check whether it's already connected, of course, you don't want to mess you connection if it's already up) sending email: exim should work fine (not sure about detials, I use postfix). you can set the relay host to your ISP smtp host - it should work OK no matter what return email address you use. If that doesn't work then you might want to use proper (real) from address just add reply-to field with address of the account you want to receive replies (if ISP doesn't allow that, switch ISP:-) - this second solution is not preferable, of course. you can also set exim to send email directly. it's not a big deal to change it so you can try one solution and if it doesn't work the way you like try another... note that at least one ISP (earthlink) blocks port 25, or at least blocked it and expressed no intention to unblock it, not sure if they block it today (so that you cannot send email directly). It is my _former_ ISP. user access to email: set up IMAP server - lot of email clients support IMAP (mutt, netscape, ...). that's easiest for users - they can access their email from anywhere. IMO this is a lot better then having pop server - lot more flexible. I use uw-imapd-ssl (debian package). You can also set up the web email client (they still can use their email client and view the same email from web or using standalone MUA (I haven't tried any web based IMAP client yet) the above is basically my setup and I am quite happy with it even though I still have rooms for improvement (LDAP address book). erik
Re: 3dfx voodoo2
pReJkEr wrote: Ello is there a package for 3dfx card in debian? i've downloaded device3dfx-source but it doesn't create /dev/3dfx you only need it for older X servers (version 3.X). it creates a kernel module. the actual file /dev/3dfx you might need to create yourself, there should be proper mknode command somewhere in device3dfx-source documentation. for X 4.x you don't need 3dfx device. You need to compile tdfx (3dfx) support into kernel though (ad use DRI in X), see: http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=163 http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=96 http://www.debianplanet.org/debianplanet/article.php?sid=36 erik
Re: e-mail, the next level
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Niko, I think that this is great thing to do. I am equally curious as to how to adopt this on my server at home. If anyone has good comments on how best to do this, I would welcome the information tremendously. Just 2 additional things: 1. What if multiple users on my network have set up multiple POP3 accounts in the past (before the server was up) and wish to go this way, leaving their mail OFF their POP3 accounts, but ON the home server? Can this still be doable? Will they be able to send mail which has their POP3 email in the From: ? yes, you can get email from multiple accounts and you can set the headers to whatever you want (except of some possible tempering by your ISP, but then just get better ISP) 2. Would it be possible to implement some kind of IMAP account(s) on the server, so the users just go through an IMAP capable account on their client stations, without having to download the mails from the home server to the client hard disk? I envision that a daemon would be pulling POP3 mails from the various accounts and putting into the respective IMAP accounts. that's exactly what I do, just have IMAP server and users can do all their email using IMAP cleint (netscape, mutt, ...). some of them even support disconnected mode (client does not have to be connected to IMAP server all the time, sort of like newsreaders do) Would this setup hold any water? I apologise in advance if my questions reveal my ignorance. I AM IGNORANT. ;-) I am using exactly this setup (so that I can use the same mailboxes on my home machine or when I view my email from work/elsewhere (use SSL when viewing email remotely)) erik
Re: Maestro sound
Darryl L. Pierce wrote: I have ESS Maestro 2E sound hardward on my laptop. When I built my kernel (2.2.19) I made sure to enable it and have verified in /var/log/dmesg that the module(s) gets loaded. However, when I try to run a sample sound application (in this case, a JMF applet using Java 1.3) the code throws exceptions about being unable to find any MIDI or line hardware. How else can I verify that my sound equipment is properly working? you might be better off using alsa use the simplest tools available: lsmod to see whether sound modules are rerally loaded oss: cat /dev/sndstat alsa: /proc/asound/ run native mixer (e.g. alsamixer for alsa) run some audio player (again, native to your driver) run simple midi app (NOT java). if you hear no sound you might need to load soundfonts (for (some) wavetable cards, not needed for FM synths) see how far you get along this way... post any error messages you get etc... (but ignore java or more complex apps for now, just go with the most trivial apps possible) erik
Re: [OT] Harassment of open source developer !
Eric G. Miller wrote: On Wed, Jul 04, 2001 at 01:00:38PM -0500, Balbir Thomas wrote: Hi, Yet another case of open source developers being harassed. Adobe lawyers ask developer of killustrator to pay fines for using a name that abuses their trade mark illustrator. Go read about it at slashdot , and then give your feedback to Adobe. I already did. We can't let such harassment go without being protested. If I were a conspiracy theorist I would see a pattern here . While corporation are leagly portected to indulge in some kinds of negative advertising as a competitive stratergy open source developer are sued because the english language words are now trademarks. Protest all you like, but I think Adobe probably has a valid claim of trademark infringement. It doesn't take any stretch of imagination to see that KIllustrator is a knock-off of Adobe Illustrator [tm]. Like it or not, probably any U.S. court would agree. I'm sure the KIllustrator folks will just change the name and move on. Nothing will be gained by stuffing Adobe's inbox with rants. While Adobe has been circumspect about Linux and *BSD, a bunch of rants is more likely just to irritate them and make them not want to support Linux/*BSD in the future. :-) they should rename KIllustrator to: Adobe Illustrator Replacement that should be covered by fair use (it only refers to adobe illustrator which is allowed) /:-) erik
Re:
Cédric Hugon wrote: I have problem with installing Debian 2.2. He doesn't see my hard disk (ATA100). What may I do ? glasses? what exactly is the problem? do you get any error message? at which point of the installation do you have a problem? is it the only drive in the system? when you run fdisk (or whatever is used for disk partitioning) and you try /dev/hda what does it say? erik
Re: problem with ATA100
Cédric Hugon wrote: to erik steffl from cedric hugon I have the problem when linux tries to create partitions : he doesn't recognize harddisk (it's the only drive). It's just after configuring keyboard and network. I tried to launch cfdisk(linux) but it stops immediately with an error message that tells me there's no harddisk. fdisk of windows recognize this drive and there are already 2 partitions fat32 on this drive. I don't understand I think it's a problem with ATA100 : I have a a promise driver that install the drive when booting the computer, after the test of IDE drives (this test doesn't see any disk, only CDROM devices ). So I can't launch cfdisk and he doesn't see any harddisk What is pio in front of hda when booting linux's installation ? can you post more exact message? I can only see pio AFTER the hda: ide1: BM-DMA at 0xc008-0xc00f, BIOS settings: hdc:pio, hdd:pio can you post the output of dmesg? if you see hda somewhere it means it recognized disk (I guess) erik
lilypond fails (error: latex: command exited with value 256)
(debian unstable, 2.4.3 kernel)
I tried the example from info lilypond tutorial:
\score {
\notes { c'4 e' g' }
}
then ran command:
ly2dvi -P test.ly
and here's what I've got:
jojda:~/tmply2dvi -P pokus.ly
Running LilyPond...
GNU LilyPond 1.4.2
Now processing: `/home/erik/tmp/pokus.ly'
Parsing...
Interpreting music...[1]
Preprocessing elements...
Calculating column positions... [2]
paper output to `pokus.tex'...
Analyzing pokus.tex...
Running LaTeX...
error: latex: command exited with value 256
Traceback (innermost last):
File /usr/bin/ly2dvi, line 786, in ?
run_latex (files, outbase, extra)
File /usr/bin/ly2dvi, line 607, in run_latex
system (cmd)
File /usr/bin/ly2dvi, line 313, in system
error (msg)
File /usr/bin/ly2dvi, line 206, in error
raise _ (Exiting ... )
Exiting ...
-
latex is installed (well, tetex-bin is: Note, selecting tetex-bin
instead of latex). is there anything else I need? here are the relevant
packages:
ii lilypond 1.4.2-2A program for printing sheet music.
ii tetex-bin 1.0.7+20001218 teTeX binary files
btw I had some limited success by running lilypond directly but the
resulting postscript file didn't have notes but letters instead (some
other symbols where replaced by regular characters as well, e.g. treble
clef was printed as 'c' (in place where treble clef would be)
I read manual and parts of info lilypond but can't see anything
relevant... (e.g. they assume the ly2dvi command would work).
TIA
erik
aptitude: why there are so many packages on hold?
since certain time (few months) aptitude puts a huge number of packages on hold - this time it's about 100. I can still hit '+' and they are installed without any problems - there are no conflicts (most of them, some packages are on hold for a reason). why is it happening? TIA erik
why are packages deleted?
I just ran aptitude and it wants to remove package: id libical 4:2.1-20014:2.1-2001 is there any way to find the reason why this package is removed? There are some new packages installed but I don't see any that would replace libical (implementation of iCAL - calendar protocols) TIA erik
aptitude and apt-get dist-upgrade do different things?
I thought that basically all front-ends for pacakge system would work same way, or at least similarly. However aptitude and apt-get dist-upgrade seem to differ a lot. Why is that? And why are they trying to remove various packages from the system? e.g. I don't want the kde-designer to be removed, even if it does not work (it does work right now), I guess it's going to be fixed sooner or later and I don't want to have manually check (there are packages that I want to use but don't remember unless I already have them installed:-) erik
Re: [OT] Harassment of open source developer !
John Hasler wrote: Erik Steffl wrote: they should rename KIllustrator to: Adobe Illustrator Replacement that should be covered by fair use (it only refers to adobe illustrator which is allowed) Fair use is a term in copyright law. It has no meaningful application that I know of to trademarks. yes, what I meant is similar concept, you can use use trademark in certain ways (like for unrelated purpose or when quoting or talking about it or the product/service whatever the trademark refers to etc.) erik
Re: No xpr on debian...
Mike Fontenot wrote: The xwd man page (for dumping an image of an X window) gives a see also for xpr (for printing the resulting X window dump). But xpr doesn't exist on my 2.2r3 debian distribution. What's going on? This is a fundamental capability...has xpr been replaced by something else to do this job? e.g. gimp can read xwd files, there's /usr/bin/xwdtopnm, I guess there are other programs as well... erik
Re: No xpr on debian...
Mike Fontenot wrote: Erik Steffl wrote: e.g. gimp can read xwd files, there's /usr/bin/xwdtopnm, I guess there are other programs as well... I couldn't find xwdtopnm on my system. Is it part of some debian package? yes, when faced with a question like this, go to the debian.org webpage, go to Packages (left side menu) and use the last form on that page to search for a file, it will tell you where it is (if it is in debian). btw the answer in this case: netpbm erik
Re: No xpr on debian...
Mike Fontenot wrote: Erik Steffl wrote: yes, when faced with a question like this, go to the debian.org webpage, go to Packages (left side menu) and use the last form on that page to search for a file, it will tell you where it is (if it is in debian). btw the answer in this case: netpbm Thanks for the tip...I realize my debian navigating skills are lacking. The man page for xwdtopnm says it converts an X dump to an anymap. But what do I do with that? Is there a way to convert anymap to postscript? well, you can use gimp or one of: jojda:/var/spool/mail# pnmtoTab pnmtoddif pnmtojpeg pnmtopspnmtosir pnmtofiascopnmtopalm pnmtorast pnmtotiff pnmtofits pnmtoplainpnm pnmtorle pnmtotiffcmyk pnmtojbig pnmtopng pnmtosgi pnmtoxwd jojda:/var/spool/mail# pnmto but of course, you can use gimp to work directly with xwd. There are probably other programs that work with pnm (and xwd). PS you'd better not ask me where to find pnmtops! :-)) erik
Re: Converting From Red Hat to Debian
Mark Seven Smith wrote: ... What I WANT to do, is to install the latest Debian version onto a second hard drive that I have; then I will put that hard drive as drive hda, and use the second drive (the one that now has Red Hat) as my /home directory. That being said--what I want to know is, first of all, is how can I install Debian on my second drive, without having to go through the install procedure (which is incompatible in *text mode* with my video card)? there are two possible solutions: 1) use serial console, not sure if it's supported and you would need something that acts as terminal 2) install debian on different machine (it must be sufficiently similar but not very similar - you just need basic system) also: you might want to look into what's the problem with video card not working even in text mode (does it work in text mode in redhat? there should be no difference). Try newer install disk for debian... for a workstation I would go with unstable - there's a lot of new stuff in there and it is VERY stable (that's what I am using), any problems are usually quickly fixed. erik
Re: Q3 Horrific Lag on VooDoo 3 [ PLEASE HELP!! ]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, sorry for the extreme subject. Not sure if my last message got through. I installed Quake 3's linux demo, mesag3-glide2, but when I run it, it runs at 1fps! I have seen 2 other people online with this problem, but no one had a solution. The best thing I heard was it can't find libGL.so so it's using MESA software rendering. It's right there in the directory with it, though! I installed the 3dfx device too, from the sources .deb available on Packages.debian.org, no help .. The game works fully, but from the moment I run it to the moment I quit it's unbelievably slow. I have a Duron 880mhz with 196mb RAM, VooDoo 3, 2.4.5 kernel, and XFree86 (dunno what version, whatever comes standard with 2.2.19pre17 Debian ISO image-made discs). Can someone please help me? try to run glxinfo, you should see a line like: direct rendering: Yes if it's very slow it probably does not use HW rendering. remember, you have to run X in depth 16 (not 24) for openGL HW acceleration to work (pretty stupid if you ask me but that's hw limitation of voodoo III). erik
Re: OpenGL Install (Was, Quake 3 slowdowns)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, can someone please tell me what packages I need, from a CLEAN debian installation, on a 2.4.5 kernel, to use Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament in OpenGL/Glide 3Dfx mode? What needs to be compiled in, and what .deb's? Please be detailed, I need to make sure I do this right the first time. this has been explained many times, try to search www.debianplanet.org, this mailing list archives etc. to get you started: you need tdfx module in your kernel, you might need to recompile kernel (use make-kpkg and read the docs that come with it, it's not very hard but you need to know what HW you have) you need the following packages (install *-dev for these packages when you want to be able to build programs that use openGL): libglide3 xlibmesa3 and the following in your XF86Config: Section Device Identifier 3dfx Voodoo III Driver tdfx EndSection you have to use the same device name (use whatever you want, they just have to be same) in your screen section, in my case: Section Screen Identifier Default Screen Device 3dfx Voodoo III - Identifier from Device section Monitor SONY Multiscan 100sx DefaultDepth16 in addition to that due to hw limitations of voodoo III you have to run X server in 16 bit depth (see the above Screen example) for DRI (openGL) to be enabled. use glxinfo to see whether you were succesfull. erik
Re: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than ...
Ian Patrick Thomas wrote: I have been getting this message on bootup Note: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.dep When I check, both have the same creation time. After searching on geocrawler I found a post where someone put the all the subdirectories of /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ in /etc/modutils/paths. Here is what mine looks like and the message is still coming up. # This file contains a list of paths that modprobe should scan, # beside the once that are compiled into the modutils tools # themselves. path[fs]=/lib/modules/2.2.20/fs path[misc]=/lib/modules/2.2.20/misc path[net]=/lib/modules/2.2.20/net Any other suggestions or is this nothing to worry about? it will probably go away. I had the same problem several times (and seen the same discussion with no solution) on this list. It looks like there's nothing you can do about it, nothing helps (update-modules, depmod -a etc.), but it goes away after few boots (after some time). I still have no idea what's wrong, but somehow one of the files involved is being updated during boot (or at least it gets new date, possibly by tough or something), I forgot which one (I guess it's /etc/modules.conf). erik
cyrus and sieve: how to setup?
I have cyrus imap server working and I would like to use sieve to filter email. I have several questions that I hope somebody will answer: 1) the only implementation of sieve in debian that I found is undocumented progam called sieve in mailutils - is that the one to use? if not, which one should I use? 2) how do I setup sieve to filter email? I see no hooks in cyrus and have no idea who would invoke sieve. I have found nothing in cyrus docs (does not mention sieve at all). I even have IMAP book (Managing IMAP by Dianna Kevin Mullet, O'Reilly) and it is VERY vague about who and how invokes sieve and how it works with imap server). 3) why is debian package so old? there are new versions of cyrus available (even new major version - debian package is still at 1.5 even though the upstream is at 2). there are also old unresolved bugs on cyrus - anybody knows what's going on? Is there a problem with new cyrus? is it being packaged? (sieve is included in newer versions so I guess it would help me to solve the above) TIA! erik
Re: Which mail user agent do you use?
Tim Dijkstra wrote: Hi, (I'm not sure if this is on topic, but hey, I'am debian-user...) I used to use netscape's messenger to read my mail, but I've had it with that one. Then I tried pine for a while, but I'm not sure about that one either. So I thought before trying all MUAs there are, I just ask you what you think is the best one. I think I prefer something graphical, and able of using multiple accounts. if you don't already, use IMAP and you can use different MUAs at the same time, no need to worry about different ways they treat mailboxes, about file locking, different mailbox formats etc. I guess all the MUAs worth trying support IMAP. I use netscape mostly (not that bad, only major flaw is that it does check only inbox for new mail), evolution is becoming fairly good, mozilla is almost stable as well. I also prefer doing mail filtering separately (not using MUAs facilities). makes a lot of sense (separate tasks by separate programs, do one thing and do it right). erik
Re: Running DirectX Games using Linux OS [Offtopic response tounrealistic zealot response]
Geoff Beaumont wrote: At 13:13 15/11/2001 +1000, you wrote: By supporting SafeDisk Transgaming is much more likely to get support from games publishers to port using WineX to Linux. And as soon as I can run Evercrack in Linux I can blow Windows off my games machine completely. To be honest, I don't see the problem with copy protection - you can't make a backup, but how many people back their games up anyway? I prefer, and mostly use, Free software, but regardless if you choose to buy commercial software, then you agree to the license that comes with it (or return the software). At what point is the copy protection a problem unless_ you are attempting to break the license agreement? If no one pirated commercial software, companies wouldn't feel the need for copy protection. I'll just go and hide in my bunker now... related: I hate the games for which you have to have a CD in computer, given 100GB disks and max few CD per game I can have quite a few games on the system and play any of those without DJ-ing. Some (Omikron) being requireing different CD for startup and different for gameplay! also, I have two computers and I would like to try the game on another one (doesn't have a CD) - copy protection gets in the way. So basically I fave to use fakecd (somehow it doesn't work) or get a crack for the game... it's quite amazing that companies can get away with being so abusive... all for silly copy protection schemes... erik
Re: cyrus and sieve: how to setup?
Andrea Vettorello wrote: On Wed, 2001-11-14 at 13:37, Erik Steffl wrote: I have cyrus imap server working and I would like to use sieve to filter email. I have several questions that I hope somebody will answer: 1) the only implementation of sieve in debian that I found is undocumented progam called sieve in mailutils - is that the one to use? if not, which one should I use? I'm using an unofficial cyrus package (1.6.24-2), and inside there are where did you get it? btw why is it not official? IMO sieve support is quite a big deal... thanks, erik
Re: OT: Hardware upgrades
Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy wrote: I have just upgraded my box ( unstable about 3-4 months berhind on the updates ). The upgrade was from PII 233 BX chipset motherboard to Athlon 1800+ XP VIA KT266A motherboard. The problem seems to be the following: 1. I cannot boot off the hard drive. It will see all the partitions and system will work fine once booted from floppy/CDROM. It will install and reinstall LILO without any problems. But every time I try to boot off of HD I get there is not boot device insert bootable disk and press enter or something. If anyone has any suggestions I would truly appreciate. first the obvious: check bios settings, now just slightly less obvious: make sure lilo is installed on mbr (at least I think that's where it needs to be, check the docs for lilo) 2. What driver should I use for the sound card? what soundcard do you have? Is it the onboard one? ac97 or something like that is often found on via motherboards, there's a driver for that chipset for linux (at least alsa), but the sound quality is quite poor (at least that's my observation and also confirmed by other people on this list) erik
Re: OT: Hardware upgrades
Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy wrote: On Thursday 15 November 2001 04:16 pm, Erik Steffl wrote: Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy wrote: I have just upgraded my box ( unstable about 3-4 months berhind on the updates ). The upgrade was from PII 233 BX chipset motherboard to Athlon 1800+ XP VIA KT266A motherboard. The problem seems to be the following: 1. I cannot boot off the hard drive. It will see all the partitions and system will work fine once booted from floppy/CDROM. It will install and reinstall LILO without any problems. But every time I try to boot off of HD I get there is not boot device insert bootable disk and press enter or something. If anyone has any suggestions I would truly appreciate. first the obvious: check bios settings, What am I looking for? The major difference is that BX didn't support advanced ATA modes so my HD used to be ATA33 and now it is ATA66. that should not matter. the point is that the LILO doesn't even start - the bios thinks that you have no bootable disk which can have following causes: - booting from HD is disabled, no bootable floppy is found, bios complains - there is nothing to boot on disk C - that means that your lilo is either not installed (I guess you already checked that) or is installed in some place where bios cannot find it. It has to be on disk C (looks like you're using IDE disk). try to check your lilo configuration (read man lilo.conf). if it still does not work post your /etc/lilo.conf now just slightly less obvious: make sure lilo is installed on mbr (at least I think that's where it needs to be, check the docs for lilo) It is installed in MBR. I have tried to clean it out with DOS fdisk /mbr and reinstall and it still doesn't work. I use 'lba32' flag and stuff. most of the flags do not matter - the important thing is that it's not lilo failing, it's bios failing to find anything bootable - so the only config options that matter are the ones that determine where is lilo installed. 2. What driver should I use for the sound card? what soundcard do you have? Is it the onboard one? ac97 or something like that is often found on via motherboards, there's a driver for that chipset for linux (at least alsa), but the sound quality is quite poor (at least that's my observation and also confirmed by other people on this list) Yes, I was talking about the internal one. you can probably use bios to make it look as what it is, as soundblaster or disable it. Make sure that you enable it and then use lspci to figure out what it is. then check kernel sound modules or alsa to see whether the chip is supported. or post output of lspci to this list. erik
Re: OT: Hardware upgrades
Bob Underwood wrote: On Thursday 15 November 2001 04:16 pm, Erik Steffl wrote: Dmitriy Kropivnitskiy wrote: I have just upgraded my box ( unstable about 3-4 months berhind on the updates ). The upgrade was from PII 233 BX chipset motherboard to Athlon 1800+ XP VIA KT266A motherboard. The problem seems to be the following: 1. I cannot boot off the hard drive. It will see all the partitions and system will work fine once booted from floppy/CDROM. It will install and reinstall LILO without any problems. But every time I try to boot off of HD I get there is not boot device insert bootable disk and press enter or something. If anyone has any suggestions I would truly appreciate. first the obvious: check bios settings, now just slightly less obvious: make sure lilo is installed on mbr (at least I think that's where it needs to be, check the docs for lilo) my lilo is installed in /dev/hdc1. win is on hda, as is the mbr, using a third-party boot manager. per the /etc/lilo.conf file Specifies the boot device. This is where Lilo installs its boot block. It can be either a partition, or the raw device, in which case it installs in the MBR, and will overwrite the current MBR. generally yes, but in his specific case, since he doesn't have anything bootable on mbr, he has to put lilo there. erik
Re: xscreensaver
jeff wrote: xscreensaver runs fast and looks great in 'windowed' (even maximized) mode but it's _really_ slow and yucky in fullscreen mode. hardware is a penitum iii, voodoo 3/200 AGP and 128 mb ram kernel is 2.4.14 w/DRI and voodoo compiled in openGL xscreensaver hacks or all of them? for openGL: what does glxinfo say? is DRI actually on? do you only use 16 bit depth (hw limitation of voodoo 3) for the rest: is the card recognized as voodoo 3? is the HW acceleration on? check the output of X erik
Re: xscreensaver
jeff wrote: On Thursday 15 November 2001 23:05, Erik Steffl wrote: jeff wrote: xscreensaver runs fast and looks great in 'windowed' (even maximized) mode but it's _really_ slow and yucky in fullscreen mode. hardware is a penitum iii, voodoo 3/200 AGP and 128 mb ram kernel is 2.4.14 w/DRI and voodoo compiled in openGL xscreensaver hacks or all of them? what's the diff? for instance, i run bubble3d in a window and it looks groovy. i run it fullscreen and it's slower than cold molasses... openGL screensavers use DRI, the other screensaver only use 2d acceleration that is provided by X server. Depending on which screensavers do not work you can start to investigate one thing or another. I guess you are talking about openGL stuff since bubble3d uses openGL. Just to verify: even if you maximize window (so that it is practically on the full screen) it is smooth, as opposed to fullscreen which is choppy, right? ... name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes looks ok. how do you run it fullscreen? if you just run it with -root option it is in root window and looks ugly (blinkig and choppy). Are you using xscreensaver to run it? erik
Re: xscreensaver
jeff wrote: On Friday 16 November 2001 00:08, Erik Steffl wrote: jeff wrote: On Thursday 15 November 2001 23:05, Erik Steffl wrote: jeff wrote: xscreensaver runs fast and looks great in 'windowed' (even maximized) mode but it's _really_ slow and yucky in fullscreen mode. hardware is a penitum iii, voodoo 3/200 AGP and 128 mb ram kernel is 2.4.14 w/DRI and voodoo compiled in openGL xscreensaver hacks or all of them? what's the diff? for instance, i run bubble3d in a window and it looks groovy. i run it fullscreen and it's slower than cold molasses... openGL screensavers use DRI, the other screensaver only use 2d acceleration that is provided by X server. Depending on which screensavers do not work you can start to investigate one thing or another. I guess you are talking about openGL stuff since bubble3d uses openGL. Just to verify: even if you maximize window (so that it is practically on the full screen) it is smooth, as opposed to fullscreen which is choppy, right? ya ya...maximized looks fine but when, say, the screensaver naturally starts up, the opengl stuff (bubble3d) is really slow. really slow. :) i don't really care about screensavers mind you...i'm just trying to figure out why it would do that...i want to develop my own opengl programs and something silly like this would give me headaches for days. :) well, try some simple program and see what it tells you (inside, when you switch to fullscreen, there are some functions that give you capabilities etc. you might be able to figure out whether it uses software rendering and why). if you don't know how to start see e.g. http://nehe.gamedev.net/ (I am going through these right now, fairly good, clean and understandble), or check out opengl.org for other tutorials/docs/examples etc. I have no idea why would it use dro in window and software rendering in fullscreen mode... erik
filesystem suddenly read-only - how come?
system: debian unstable, kernel 2.4.10 my /home filesystem was suddenly read-only, here' what I've found: /var/log/syslog: ... Nov 15 23:38:01 localhost /USR/SBIN/CRON[18175]: (list) CMD ([ -x /usr/bin/python -a -f /usr/lib/mailman/cron/q runner ] /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner) Nov 15 23:38:04 localhost kernel: EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,71)): ext2_new_block: Free blocks count corrupted for block group 120 Nov 15 23:38:04 localhost kernel: Remounting filesystem read-only Nov 15 23:39:14 localhost squid[16292]: Squid Parent: child process 16295 exited due to signal 9 Nov 15 23:39:08 localhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0127d7e Nov 15 23:39:21 localhost kernel: VM: killing process mozilla-bin Nov 15 23:39:21 localhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0127d7e Nov 15 23:39:21 localhost kernel: VM: killing process nmbd Nov 15 23:39:21 localhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0127d7e Nov 15 23:39:21 localhost kernel: VM: killing process squid Nov 15 23:39:20 localhost inetd[687]: /usr/sbin/tcpd: exit signal 0x9 Nov 15 23:39:30 localhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0127d7e Nov 15 23:39:31 localhost kernel: VM: killing process xmms Nov 15 23:39:31 localhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0127d7e Nov 15 23:39:31 localhost kernel: VM: killing process smbd Nov 15 23:39:34 localhost /USR/SBIN/CRON[18442]: (list) CMD ([ -x /usr/bin/python -a -f /usr/lib/mailman/cron/q runner ] /usr/bin/python /usr/lib/mailman/cron/qrunner) the filesystem is set to remount read-only when an error is encountered: /dev/hdb7 on /home type ext2 (rw,errors=remount-ro) could that be the reason? I did not found what does the error below mean? is the HD dying? or is it filesystem problem (this is the first this problem occured) I unmounted the filesystem, filesystem check found: -- fsck output begin ... Pass 5: Checking block summary information Block bitmap differences: -3937687 Fixy? yes home: * FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED * home: 208192/2443200 files (11.6% non-contiguous), 3643236/4883752 blocks -- fsck output end I mounted the filesystem, restarted xdm and everything looks ok... any ideas on what's going on? TIA erik
Re: cyrus and sieve: how to setup?
Andrea Vettorello wrote: On Thu, 2001-11-15 at 19:42, Erik Steffl wrote: Andrea Vettorello wrote: On Wed, 2001-11-14 at 13:37, Erik Steffl wrote: I have cyrus imap server working and I would like to use sieve to filter email. I have several questions that I hope somebody will answer: 1) the only implementation of sieve in debian that I found is undocumented progam called sieve in mailutils - is that the one to use? if not, which one should I use? I'm using an unofficial cyrus package (1.6.24-2), and inside there are where did you get it? Last summer i was looking for a imap/pop server and from the description cyrus seemed what i was looking for (it was interesting the feature of the users insulated from the system). The debian version was very old, and with a serch with google i've found some cyrus unofficial package at http://www.boxedpenguin.com/ thanks, I guess I'll try this one... btw why is it not official? IMO sieve support is quite a big deal... I said unofficial cause it's not from the official debian mirror =) yes, I was asking how come there is no official version (or in other words, why is the official cyrus package so old). I understand that packaging 2.x is quite a challenge but even 1.6 version would be much better (because of sieve). anyway, thanks for the link, erik
Re: Which mail user agent do you use?
op wrote: Also sprach Timo: b) evolution: needs lots of dependencies (many from GNOME) and was broken in sid last time, but when it works, it is just the best; a pure Outlook clone but better! (mail, contacts, tasks, calendar, portal...) I've been looking to migrate from kmail to evolution for a long time. I installed it from sid a few weeks ago and it was still broken. Is that fixed now? One more thing. Kmail has an apply filter feature. This lets me define filters and apply them even _after_ the messages to be filtered have arrived. Is this available in Evolution? I can't imagine life without it :) IMO it's generally better to have filtering independent from MUA - that way you can change your MUAs anytime (even more so when you use IMAP instead of just files for mailboxes). procmail is THE one, when you use cyrus imap server you probably want to use sieve for filtering (that's what I plan to do, I already use cyrus) erik
freeamp and synchronizing the My Music with filesystem?
freeamp can search computer for the music after I move files around, get new files etc. there's no way to update this info. I can search again but this adds ALL the files again (so most of the files have two instances in My Music). did I miss something? TIA erik
temporary freeze related to gnome double-click?
this is quite strange, it happens with at least two gnome apps (gnucash and freeamp): when I double-click on some item (item that is opened by double-clicking) the application freezes for certain time and fvwm freezes as well (focus doesn't changes, no window decoration or fvwm modules react to mouse) I am not running gnome desktop, only some gnome applications. when using some other method to open the item (keyboard shortcuts, rightclick and pick up 'open' from menu) there is no problem (no delay, no freezing), the problem is only when I double-click. It happens with e.g. account in gnucash. there is no problem with double-clicking in general there is no high load, the rest of the computer works fine (e.g. I can switch to another virtual console and do something without any delays). any ideas about what's going on? system: debian unstable fvwm 2.4.0 gnome: not sure, most of the gnome components are 1.4.0.x or 1.4.1.x TIA erik
Re: filesystem suddenly read-only - how come?
nate wrote: Erik Steffl said: system: debian unstable, kernel 2.4.10 my /home filesystem was suddenly read-only, here' what I've found: I mounted the filesystem, restarted xdm and everything looks ok... any ideas on what's going on? while i can't speak for 2.4.10 but 2.2 will remount a filesystem readonly to prevent damage automatically if there is severe disk errors. ive had it do it several times on disks that were failing. although everytime it would say something in the kernel log something something errors, remounting readonly there was something like that (right in the beginning of my email): Nov 15 23:38:04 localhost kernel: EXT2-fs error (device ide0(3,71)): ext2_new_block: Free blocks count corrupted for block group 120 Nov 15 23:38:04 localhost kernel: Remounting filesystem read-only at the same time I had problems with memory (full, some processes were killed): Nov 15 23:39:14 localhost squid[16292]: Squid Parent: child process 16295 exited due to signal 9 Nov 15 23:39:08 localhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0127d7e Nov 15 23:39:21 localhost kernel: VM: killing process mozilla-bin Nov 15 23:39:21 localhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0127d7e Nov 15 23:39:21 localhost kernel: VM: killing process nmbd ...etc, few more were killed: squid, xmms, smbd the problem is I don't know what it means. fsck later on said: Pass 5: Checking block summary information Block bitmap differences: -3937687 (that was the only error) again, I have no idea what that error means (I checked google, found some posts mentioning it but didn't find anything that would help me to figure out what's going on). I am mainly interested whether this is a filesystem problem (software) or disk problem (hardware). TIA erik
Re: filesystem suddenly read-only - how come?
nate wrote: Erik Steffl said: (that was the only error) try forcing a bad block scan. when ive gotten that remounting error i had bad blocks. a good sign for a failing drive or otherwise misconfigured system(cable too long, controller going bad, bad driver etc) would be if the system says FILE SYSTEM MODIFIED even if it doesnt say what it modified. even when running fsck with verbose on over and over again(without remounting) if it says file system modified i'd backup everything that you want to keep and try to find a program that can run diagnostics on the drive. and eventually RMA the drive again, I have no idea what that error means (I checked google, found some posts mentioning it but didn't find anything that would help me to figure out what's going on). I am mainly interested whether this is a filesystem problem (software) or disk problem (hardware). i can't imagine how it could be software related, ive never personally had filesystem curroption on any filesystem on a mounted filesystem. only time ive ever gotten curroption was after an unclean shutdown. either hard crash, or the system hangs enough that i hit reset, or the system reboots without being able to unmount the filesystems cleanly. i am biased though, ive had 12 disk failures in the past 6 months(all IBM). I ran badblocks and it didn't find any errors, I ran the mild form of testing only (as recommended on 'live' filesystem): jojda:/home/erik# badblocks -s -v /dev/hdb7 Checking for bad blocks in read-only mode From block 0 to 19535008 Checking for bad blocks (read-only test): done Pass completed, 0 bad blocks found. seems like a good sign I guess... anybody knows what: Block bitmap differences: -3937687 means? erik
Re: UnrealTourney can't find VooDoo 3
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um, I have been compiling kernels with DRI and VooDoo 3 driver. It won't work! I can't find the tdfx driver in there though .. is it vital? will it help? Where do I find it in make xconfig (what category?..) yes, it's vital. it's under character devices, the last section, enable Direct Rendering Manager and then you can enable 3dfx (I build most of the stuff as modules). you need 2.4 kernel for that. if you don't know yet: use make-kpkg to build and install kernel and modules. The docs are pretty clear, however you want to use epoch (see --revision) so that your kernel is not replaced by debian kernel. erik
Re: Continuing VooDoo3 Problem
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just ran test3Dfx and it can't find the VooDoo3 board! ... Then it segfaults! I am working on installing the 3dfx device now, but even when I had it installed, Quake 3 still ran at 1 fps, even at 16bpp in XFree86 (I think 3.3.6, it's whatever version comes with the Disc 1 2.2.19pre17 Debian ISO). I have all the packages I seem to need and have ./configure'd, make'd, and make install'ed MESA 4.0 and placed the Mesa-4.0 dir in the /usr directory, but I still have the same problems. I compiled in DRI and VooDoo 3 drivers into the kernel. Can't find tdfx .. where is it in make xconfig? I just wrote another email where to find it but: not sure which versions you use but it's easier to use X 4.x and 2.4.x kernel. with older X 3.x you don't need tdfx, you might need device3dfx (or 3dfxdevice (I forgot which), it's module 3dfx.o) to be able to run openGL as non-root. I would strongly suggest to go with unstable (and new X and kernel). Stable is good for server that you absolutely need to have running but unstable (or testing, but I have better experience with unstable (roughly: it's about as stable as testing but has much better support - you get info about problems sooner and problems are fixed faster)) is good enough for workstation and since you playing with openGL I guess your life does not depend on the computer:-) openGL support is also better in X 4.x, e.g. you get openGL in window, you won't get stuck in fullscren openGL (at least it didn't happen to me yet and it seems like in 3.x that was the norm)... erik
Re: Still can't find TDFX in Kernel Config
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm trying to compile my 2.4.5 kernel. I've enabled 3Dfx for the VooDoo3/Banshee, and DRI support. However, I can't find TDFX. I looked in character devices, at the end, near the 3Dfx support and such, but it's not there. I suspect this is probably the reason 3Dfx and OpenGL won't work. I have Mesa-4.0 installed and all the libs I need. 3dfx support IS tdfx module, enable 3dfx support (as a module) and you will get tdfx.o as a result. not sure why it's tdfx instead of 3dfx, they probably didn't want number at the beginning (not sure why, they probably use the same name as identifier somewhere where identifier has to start with a letter, e.g. in driver code itself) erik
Re: GLX and ssystem- how?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GLX. How do I get it to work with ssystem? I have installed utah-glx and loading gtx.so in XF86Config, which gets to the splash screen, but ssystem quits with the error: X Error of failed request: GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest Major opcode of failed request: 148 (GLX) Minor opcode of failed request: 17 (X_GLXVendorPrivateWithReply) Serial number of failed request: 168 Current serial number in output stream: 168 The video card is an S3 Trio/64, I've tried both xserver-svga and xserver-s3 with the same results. on my system (voodoo 3) ssystem works in windowing mode, works in fullscreen mode, does not work from xscreensaver (blank screen). so it is kinda suspicious (other openGL xscreensaver hacks work). is this for X 3.x? I guess it's better to use X 4.x if possible... erik
Re: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than ...
Ian Patrick Thomas wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 09:38:30PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: Ian Patrick Thomas wrote: I have been getting this message on bootup Note: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.dep When I check, both have the same creation time. After searching on geocrawler I found a post where someone put the all the subdirectories of /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ in /etc/modutils/paths. Here is what mine looks like and the message is still coming up. # This file contains a list of paths that modprobe should scan, # beside the once that are compiled into the modutils tools # themselves. path[fs]=/lib/modules/2.2.20/fs path[misc]=/lib/modules/2.2.20/misc path[net]=/lib/modules/2.2.20/net Any other suggestions or is this nothing to worry about? it will probably go away. I had the same problem several times (and seen the same discussion with no solution) on this list. It looks like there's nothing you can do about it, nothing helps (update-modules, depmod -a etc.), but it goes away after few boots (after some time). I still have no idea what's wrong, but somehow one of the files involved is being updated during boot (or at least it gets new date, possibly by tough or something), I forgot which one (I guess it's /etc/modules.conf). erik After just upgrading all my packages in main( I'm running Sid) I noticed that modutils was upgraded. Hoping that this might get rid of the message, I rebooted after everything installed. Unfortunately the message still popped up. Here's where it gets wierd. Rebooting this morning shows no message. It's gone. I'm going to look into modutils and see what is causing this strange behavior. It doesn't affect the way the system runs, but it is to reminiscent of a Windows type bug where you have to keep rebooting until it goes away ;) yes, it's quite annoying little mystery. I spent some time trying to figure out what's going on, even put some debug messages in relevant scripts (printing out ls -l on relevant files) but never figured out what was the problem. It looked like the date on one of the files suddenly changed and I couldn't figure out why or who changed it (it was either /etc/modules.conf or /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.dep). I searched the boot scripts for depmod, update-modules. didn't find why the date get screwed up... erik
Re: libasound.h
Roberto Diaz wrote: Hi! Could somebody tell me in which package is this file now? (I have all the alsa packages from the stable distribution but I havent this file :???) go to debian.org, click on Packages (left side menu), use the last form on the page. erik
Re: missing XFree86 executable in woody (and perhaps potato too) :(
Glen Coates wrote: I am a redhat user trying to migrate to debian and have had no luck with getting X to work on any version of debian. I have posted this query to linux.debian.user with no helpful replies, and now turn to you good people for guidance :) I installed woody (nov-09 ISO's) using the first 2 CD's of the set, and for the package selection stage of the install I just used tasksel to select 'desktop environment', and bypassed the dselect portion of the installation. The system appears to have installed OK apart from a few warnings about emacs19 packages not being available (which I don't think would have affected X). Anyway ... issuing a 'startx' or 'xinit' as either root or user at a terminal prompt gives me an error message telling me to make sure that: 1. /usr/X11R6/bin is in my path (which it is) 2. 'X' is a valid executable From other replies I got, I understand that this 'X' is supposed to be a symlink to /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86. My freshly installed woody distro doesn't have an executable that looks *anything like* 'XFree86' anywhere! (I ran a find / -regex '.*XF.*' -perm +1 to verify this) ... now, how is it possible that X hasn't been installed properly? I clearly saw various gnome applets and applications being installed during the installation process, and they must surely depend on X being installed, so where's my executable? Also, to clarify, /usr/bin/X11 is a symlink to /usr/X11R6/bin. Can anyone offer any help with this? I couldn't get X started on potato either, although I can't be sure the error message was exactly the same. Has anyone had any similar experiences on woody or potato? you already got response that should help you get going but in addition to that: anytime you are looking for a file you know is in one of the packages but don't know which one, go to debian.org web site, go to packages section (left side menu) and use the last form on the page to search for the file, it will tell you in which package the file is. erik
Re: added memory, should I increase swap?
Peter Christensen wrote: I started with Debian 2.1 on my Pentium 200 MHz with 32 MB of memory, then upgraded with apt-get to Potato. I recently replaced the single 32 MB SDRAM with two 128 MB SDRAMs. When I installed Debian I created a 32MB swap to match the size of the memory. Should I now increase the size of the swap to match the new memory? it depends. basically yes (rule of thumb: swap should be 1x or 2x RAM), but check how you use the system and how full the swap becomes. I wouldn't mind wiping my hard drive clean and re-installing everything. Now that I have learned a little about Debian I realize that the install option of dial-up workstation (if that's what it was called) installed many software packages that I will never use, for instance lots of games and window managers. just uninstall the stuff you don't want. erik
Re: [root@dimension11.net: Cron news@bainbridge01 rnews -U]
Eric Brooks wrote: I was wondering if anyone could shed light on what I need to do to get rid of this error message. I am a new Debian user and I think that I don't have my network setup correctly yet (though email is working) and I am not sure what the source of this email is? i'm running on a laptop (dell latitude) as a workstation, not as a server. thanks. eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Forwarded message from Cron Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] rnews -U X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh X-Cron-Env: PATH=/usr/lib/news/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin X-Cron-Env: HOME=/var/spool/news X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=news Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:10:01 -0500 Hostname does not resolve or 'domain' in inn.conf is missing - End forwarded message - well, check your inn.conf (I guess it's in /etc) erik
sieve (and cyrus) - doesn't work - how to troubleshoot?
Hi everybody,
I have the following problem, I would appreaciate any help:
briefly: sieve does not work.
here's my setup (these are unofficial cyrus packages from
www.boxedpenguin.com):
jojda:~dpkg -l \*cyrus\*|grep ^ii
ii cyrus-admin1.5.19-9 CMU Cyrus mail system (administration
tool)
ii cyrus-common 1.6.24-2 CMU Cyrus mail system (common files)
ii cyrus-imapd1.6.24-2 CMU Cyrus mail system (IMAP support)
ii cyrus-nntp 1.6.24-2 CMU Cyrus mail system (NNTP support)
here's what I have in /etc/imapd.conf:
sieveusehomedir: true
and here's my ~/.sieve file (straight from managin imap book):
if header :contains subject 123 testing sieve {
reject testing sieve message rejected!;
}
but when I send myself an email with subject 123 testing sieve it it
is not rejected.
where do I go from here?
I didn't use installsieve and timsieve since I have no idea how
(timsieve appears to be server, it says it is supposed to run from inetd
but there's no info on how)
any info/pointer appreciated.
TIA
erik
cyrus: how to make it authenticate against unix users?
I would like to set the cyrus authentification to work with unix users that are defined on the system. How do I set it up? I though it would work with pam but when I set up pam: sasl_pwcheck_method: PAM I just get an error saying that PAM authentification was not successful. what do I need to set so that pam uses unix users? here's what I have in /etc/pam.d/cyrus (I left out the comments): authrequiredpam_unix.so nullok account requiredpam_unix.so here's the exact error message when I used PAM: Nov 17 06:33:27 localhost PAM_unix[22917]: authentication failure; (uid=110) - erik for imap service for some reason I got the following message as well: Nov 17 06:33:26 localhost imapd[22917]: unable to open Berkeley db /etc/sasldb: No such file or directory I thought this wouldn't be used when using PAM??? TIA erik
Re: Increasing Swap
Mark Lanett wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, swap in the 2.2 and 2.4 kernels only gets used when you run out of RAM. So if you are upping your RAM and not upping the number of tasks you run, there would be no need to increase swap. Less reason if anything, but disk space is too cheap to make it worth repartitioning downwards. You really need to know how much of ram and/or swap you generally use. With Windows NT/2K, the Task Manager's Performance tab tells you this (Commit Charge, Total used currently, Peak used overall, and Limit of ram and swap together). How does one determine this with Linux? it's in /proc, there are several programs you can use: free, top, xosview, gkrellm... etc. there are some system monitors for gnome and kde... basically you want swap as a sort of safety buffer - if there's something unexpected (that eats up a lot of memory) you don't want kernel to start to kill programs (which it has to). erik
Re: Increasing Swap
Aniartia wrote: On Monday 19 November 2001 04:51, Erik Steffl wrote: Mark Lanett wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, swap in the 2.2 and 2.4 kernels only gets used when you run out of RAM. So if you are upping your RAM and not upping the number of tasks you run, there would be no need to increase swap. Less reason if anything, but disk space is too cheap to make it worth repartitioning downwards. You really need to know how much of ram and/or swap you generally use. With Windows NT/2K, the Task Manager's Performance tab tells you this (Commit Charge, Total used currently, Peak used overall, and Limit of ram and swap together). How does one determine this with Linux? it's in /proc, there are several programs you can use: free, top, xosview, gkrellm... etc. there are some system monitors for gnome and kde... basically you want swap as a sort of safety buffer - if there's something unexpected (that eats up a lot of memory) you don't want kernel to start to kill programs (which it has to). erik Intersting you say that cause on my system 2.4.6 swap is rather premptive, right now: Memory 637M/55M:29M:187M (total/used:buffered:cached) Swap: 1.2G/63M (total/used) I do belive that means I've got ~370Mb RAW free, anyone wish to comment? not sure what are all the reason for stuff to get swapped out (perhpas the long sleeping process?) but if it was swapped out for some reason it doesn't get back into RAM unitil it's needed. So the reason why your system is using 63MB of swap space might be some past need, even though right now you have plenty of memory free (cached is basically free, as far as apps are concerned, it's used for disc cache but it would be freed if apps need more memory). erik
Re: [root@dimension11.net: Cron news@bainbridge01 rnews -U]
Eric Brooks wrote: Thanks very much for your respone. I did look at inn.conf but did not understand what it was trying to do. I felt that the problem was deeper than I could see just looking at the conf file. First off I didn't understand why rnews was being called at all. Then I didn't understand why it couldn't find the server (or even what server it was looking for -- the machine I'm running on or a news server). A lot of questions in my mind. if you don't need it you can just uninstall it and the problem is solved, sort of. I found that rnews is being called by Cron because the file /etc/cron.d/inn2 references it. That was the easy part. Now I'm working through the rnews man page to figure out which server it is looking for and why it can't find it. I suspect that my machine's hostname and dnsdomain are wrong-- which was really at the heart of my question, though not stated. I'm going to look at how my /etc/host.conf, /etc/hostname, /etc/hosts, /etc/hosts.allow, and /etc/hosts.deny work together and what they impact. try: ping `hostname` (it should work) it looks like it's looking for your hostname and it cannot get numeric ip from hostname. the other possibility is that it cannot find nntp server. there should be some option for setting your hostname and domain. I don't use that package so that's all I can tell... erik -- eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.dimension11.net] On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 08:09:36PM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: Eric Brooks wrote: I was wondering if anyone could shed light on what I need to do to get rid of this error message. I am a new Debian user and I think that I don't have my network setup correctly yet (though email is working) and I am not sure what the source of this email is? i'm running on a laptop (dell latitude) as a workstation, not as a server. thanks. eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Forwarded message from Cron Daemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Cron Daemon) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] rnews -U X-Cron-Env: SHELL=/bin/sh X-Cron-Env: PATH=/usr/lib/news/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin X-Cron-Env: HOME=/var/spool/news X-Cron-Env: LOGNAME=news Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:10:01 -0500 Hostname does not resolve or 'domain' in inn.conf is missing - End forwarded message - well, check your inn.conf (I guess it's in /etc) erik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
Re: cyrus: how to make it authenticate against unix users?
nate wrote: nate said: Erik Steffl said: I would like to set the cyrus authentification to work with unix users that are defined on the system. How do I set it up? I though it would work with pam but when I set up pam: what version of cyrus? on both versions in potato and woody from another post seems your using a unofficial version of cyrus, in which case your best off asking the maintainer of that package for assistance. sorry, I forgot to tell which cyrus package I use but I thought that it's more the issue of pam as used by cyrus. I mean why doesn't pam authentificate user? it seems like it's working for other programs and I didn't set anything special for those (cron). here's my setup (these are unofficial cyrus packages from www.boxedpenguin.com): jojda:~dpkg -l \*cyrus\*|grep ^ii ii cyrus-admin1.5.19-9 CMU Cyrus mail system (administration tool) ii cyrus-common 1.6.24-2 CMU Cyrus mail system (common files) ii cyrus-imapd1.6.24-2 CMU Cyrus mail system (IMAP support) ii cyrus-nntp 1.6.24-2 CMU Cyrus mail system (NNTP support) in /etc/imapd.conf sasl_pwcheck_method: PAM in /etc/pam.d/cyrus (I left out the comments): authrequiredpam_unix.so nullok account requiredpam_unix.so the error message in /var/log/auth: Nov 17 06:33:27 localhost PAM_unix[22917]: authentication failure; (uid=110) - erik for imap service TIA erik
Re: Cyrus - missing saslpasswd
Idar Tollefsen wrote: Hello, I'm running Debian 2.2r3 with kernel 2.4.6. I have just installed Cyrus, or more specifically, the four packages cyrus-common, cyrus-admin, cyrus-imap and cyrus-pop3. After a little tinkering, I've been able to get to create two mailboxes for two regular users using cyradm. Now... according to all HOWTOs and FAQs I can find, I'm suppposed to run saslpasswd username to set passwords for the newly created mailboxes. The only problem with that is there is no saslpasswd on my system...? I had the same problem recently, I already forgot how I solved it. Try running the saslpasswd as root, I think it creates the file if it does not exist. btw I just installed cyrus as well, to do the email filtering the right way(tm) you need sieve and for that you need at least cyrus 1.6 which is not in debian, there are unofficial packages at http://www.boxedpenguin.com/ (see previous discussion on this list with subject cyrus and sieve: how to setup?, first message from last wed), not sure if the unofficial package can be installed on potato (2.2r3 is potato, right?). erik
Re: Upgrading
nate wrote: Sridhar M.A. said: Hello all, Currently I am running potato with some packages from woody recompiled to run on potato. I plan to upgrade to woody. As I would not have the net connection always, can I ask ap-get to download the packages to the local disk (whenever there is a connection) and then start the upgrading? yep apt-get -d dist-upgrade bo sure to have your package info up to date: apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade erik
Re: Cyrus - missing saslpasswd
Idar Tollefsen wrote: Erik, I had the same problem recently, I already forgot how I solved it. Try running the saslpasswd as root, I think it creates the file if it does not exist. There is no such file as 'saslpasswd', that's my problem. And yes, I am running as root. sorry for confusion, I was talking about 1.6 version (unoffical package) that I had problems with. The version in debian defaults to athenticatig users against unix users, I used it before but did not have to set up anything. It might be the only method to go with the official debian version (which is quite old). erik
problem: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
I have noticed few times during last days that sometime system runs out of memory (always when I am not nearby) and kills a program or two and then everything's fine (it kills different programs each time so I am pretty sure the killed program is not the one that causes problems) here's the message in /var/log/syslog (irrelevant messages before and after): Nov 22 04:34:19 localhost kernel: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed (gfp=0x1d2/0) from c0127d7e Nov 22 04:34:24 localhost kernel: VM: killing process XFree86 usually it kills more programs, system services (cron) etc... I have few question related to this problem: - is it possible it's kernel problem? I haven't heard anything too weird about 2.4.10 - how can I find (post mortem) which program caused the problem? - how does kernel decide which programs to kill? is there any way to influence it? I would rather have netscape (usually a memory hog) killed than system services (like samba daemons, cron, nfs daemons etc.) my system: debian unstable kernel 2.4.10 X 4.1.0.1 usually running: X netscape mozilla xmms few xterms fvwm, gkrellm, chbg memory usage now (without reboot, after the above mentioned problem), this is how it looks most of the time jojda:/home/erik# free total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem:385472 358020 27452 0 12624 244264 -/+ buffers/cache: 101132 284340 Swap: 243104 55984 187120 related incident: I have quite a few mp3 files and I noticed that when I sort playlist in xmms by song name it eats all available memory (and does the same after I restart it, I didn't even find any relevant setting in config file but when I remove it problem goes away). I have't tried it before so I don't know whether it's new problem or old one (I haven't find anything similar on xmms or debian page so I filed a bug report) any ideas on how to troubleshoot this problem? TIA! erik erik
WTF: bug uses ee
How come bug program uses ee? that's quite ridiculous, THE editor for anything system related was always vi, at least everybody knows what to expect. IIRC vi was used before. the web page says that joe will be used if neither VISUAL nor EDITOR variables are set. However I ended up with ee which is quite annoying. the problem is that I didn't even know it's ee, only after using ps aux I find it ... (and since I do not use ee I assume the only ee process was the one sed by bug). erik
how to put package on hold using command line tools?
is there any way to put package on hold using command line tools? I didn't find anything relevant in amnd dpkg and man apt-get. TIA erik
Re: how to put package on hold using command line tools?
Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 05:37:51AM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: is there any way to put package on hold using command line tools? echo packagename hold | dpkg --set-selections thank you, isn't this a bug in man dpkg though? all it says about --set-selections is: dpkg --set-selections Set package selections using file read from stdin. that's not enough to actually use it like you suggested above.. erik
Re: WTF: bug uses ee
Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 05:31:49AM -0800, Erik Steffl wrote: How come bug program uses ee? It doesn't. 'update-alternatives --config editor'. right. the question morphs - how come ee has higher priority than vim (or any other vi clone)? The least surprising (this is linux) editor is some vi clone... (you get ee, there's no way to tell it's ee, there's no way to figure out how to save quit (or quit without saving) - you get worst of all worlds) the web page says that joe will be used if neither VISUAL nor EDITOR variables are set. The man page (I think that's what you meant?) is wrong. /usr/bin/editor yes, man page, I guess it's too late (or too early, hard to tell at this point) is used, and what that points to is configurable by the system administrator. Chances are you removed a package that provided the editor alternative and which used to be the default, and ee was the highest-priority one left. probably, even though I am not sure how that happened... (maybe I removed nvi) thanks, erik
Re: how to put package on hold using command line tools?
Colin Watson wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2001 at 03:08:30PM +0100, Alexander Steinert wrote: Nevertheless you can file a bug against dpkg. (See 'apt-cache show bug'.) Better, see reportbug. bug hasn't really been maintained seriously for a while now. shouldn't it be taken out of distribution then? Or at least warn user? I mean I have no way of knowing that I am using wrong program (well, now I know:-) erik
when was the package updated last (oon my machine)?
is there any way to figure out when was a package updated on my system? or even history of updated? I mean I can check the changelog to see when the package itself was last updated but I am interested in information about when it (=the current version on my machine) got on my system (the last update). TIA erik
Re: grep regex
Emil Pedersen wrote: Schnorbus, Patrick wrote: hi, may you help me? i need a regex for grep, to find lines containing NOT: ^192.168 212.23.138 Hi. The '-v' flag inverse the meaning of grep, letting lines _not_ matching regexp through. grep -v -e ^192.168 -e 212.23.138 would skip lines starting with 192.168 and lines containing 212.23.138 (anywhere in line since there is no '^' starting the regexp). Try man grep for a better explanation/overview of grep capabilities. . matches any single character, if you want real dot you need \. or [.] erik
Re: sieve (and cyrus) - doesn't work - how to troubleshoot?
Dave Carrigan wrote:
Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
and here's my ~/.sieve file (straight from managin imap book):
if header :contains subject 123 testing sieve {
reject testing sieve message rejected!;
}
but when I send myself an email with subject 123 testing sieve it it
is not rejected.
where do I go from here?
First, check that cyrus put an X-sieve header in the message. If the
message doesn't have an X-sieve header, then sieve was never
run.
yes! it's there, at least that...
Second, you probably need a require reject; line at the top of your
.sieve file. Sieve can't take any actions unless you require the modules
that implement those actions. (Note, that applies to cyrus 2; I'm not
even sure if cyrus 1 supports reject.)
does cyrus create any log? I can't find anything (in /var/log, some
mail related logs are only used by fetchamil and postfix, there's
nothing in syslog)
I mean if there's an error in sieve file I would expect it to be
written somewhere, as of now I don't even know whether the file was
processed.
Finally, depending on what sieve things you want to do, you have to
deliver mail to cyrus using LMTP. require fileinto will work fine
without LMTP, but require vacation needs require envelope, and that
requires LMTP. It's a good idea to learn how to deliver with LMTP
anyway, because cyrus 2 requires LMTP for everything.
What MTA are you using?
postfix. it has the lmtp transport method, but how do I set the cyrus
side? or is it automatically set? I cannot find any docs on this (I
search the google, postfix.org and cyrus home page), there are some
pieces of info but very scattered and I cannot figure out how to put it
together...
TIA
erik
Re: sieve (and cyrus) - doesn't work - how to troubleshoot?
Dave Carrigan wrote:
Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
does cyrus create any log?
Not that I know of, sadly. If there's a problem with the sieve file,
cyrus silently behaves as if there is no sieve file.
that's extremely sad.
postfix. it has the lmtp transport method, but how do I set the cyrus
side?
What version of cyrus? If it's 2.x, then it should be defined in
unofficial deb 1.6.24
/etc/cyrus.conf; either lmtp or lmtpunix, or both. In fact, lmtp is the
only way to deliver mail with 2.x. For 1.x, you run 'deliver -l' out of
inetd. Test either version by telnetting to port 2525.
would this work for 1.6 (as I understand it there's quite a difference
between 1.5 and 1.6)? I haven't found it anywhere, I guess I'll go over
to cyrus web site for some more digging... do you know what's the line
for cyrus deliver -l in /etc/inetd.conf?
Also, make sure that you set postfix's local delivery transport to be
lmtp.
ok, so currently I use method cyrus with the following line:
cyrus unix - n n - - pipe
flags=R user=cyrus argv=/usr/sbin/cyrdeliver -e -m ${extension}
${user}
but there's also following line there:
lmtp unix - - n - - lmtp
so as far as the postfix goes I should just change the:
/etc/postfix/main.cf:mailbox_transport = cyrus
to mailbox_transport = lmtp and that's it (as far as postfix goes)?
There is also a sieve test program that comes with the cyrus source. You
feed it a mail message and a sieve script and it'll tell you what it
would do.
do you know the name of it? I can't find anything like that in
installed packages or cyrus source tree.
thanks a lot and thanks some more in advance:-)
erik
Re: X11 header files
Batuke wrote: Hi ! I need some X11 header files such as Xlib.h, Xutil.h keysym.h XShm.h. What package/s must i install to get them ? go to debian.org, click on Packages in the left side menu and use the last form to find in which package a file is. erik
sort-of-solved WAS: Re: problem: __alloc_pages: 0-order allocation failed
Sebastian Bober wrote: Am Don, dem 22.November 2001, um 05:27:32 -0800, schrieb Erik Steffl: usually it kills more programs, system services (cron) etc... I have few question related to this problem: - is it possible it's kernel problem? I haven't heard anything too weird about 2.4.10 well, 2.4.10 is quite bad at deciding which process to kill. you should use 2.4.14 or even better 2.4.15pre9 (which seems to become 2.4.15). - how can I find (post mortem) which program caused the problem? i don't think there is a way (except, of course, heavy logging). - how does kernel decide which programs to kill? is there any way to influence it? I would rather have netscape (usually a memory hog) killed than system services (like samba daemons, cron, nfs daemons etc.) the kernel uses some heuristics (which have been sane only since 2.4.14). unfortunately you don't have a way to tweak the behaviour. usually the kernel chooses the process which uses the most memory (and won't free any in a low memeory situation). i suppose it would be best to upgrade the kernel and then try to reproduce the problem. chances aren't that bad that it is way better. related incident: I have quite a few mp3 files and I noticed that when I sort playlist in xmms by song name it eats all available memory (and does the same after I restart it, I didn't even find any relevant setting in config file but when I remove it problem goes away). I have't tried it before so I don't know whether it's new problem or old one (I haven't find anything similar on xmms or debian page so I filed a bug report) update on the above problem, I think the info might be interesting for some users: the memory eater was xmms (I filed a bug, it's on it's way to upstream) I tracked it down using top -b, it prints out the formatted information to stdout in a form that can be redirected into file (instead of updating screen it prints each screen one after another, as text). I saved this to file, waited till the problem occured again and then checked the top info from time when the kernel started to kill programs because of memory being all used. per advice above I also upgraded to kernel 2.4.14, the xmms problem is still there (no wonder, it's xmms problem) but instead of killing cron, fetchmail, X or other seemingly random program the kernel killed xmms each time it got greedy with memory. erik
Re: sieve (and cyrus) - doesn't work - how to troubleshoot?
Dave Carrigan wrote:
Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
would this work for 1.6 (as I understand it there's quite a difference
between 1.5 and 1.6)?
It should work for 1.6. I've never used 1.5.
do you know what's the line for cyrus deliver -l in /etc/inetd.conf?
That was never documented at the cyrus site; I figured it out on my own.
Put this in your inetd.conf:
lmtp stream tcp nowait cyrus /path/to/deliver deliver -l
should be sufficient. Make sure that lmtp is in your /etc/services.
to mailbox_transport = lmtp and that's it (as far as postfix goes)?
I believe so. I don't actually use any of that part of postfix (all my
addresses are resolved with ldap and everything resolves to a
locally-defined transport). But, I'm pretty sure that is the syntax.
works, thanks (inetd.conf line + mailbox_transport = lmtp was all that
I needed to change)
do you know the name of it? I can't find anything like that in
installed packages or cyrus source tree.
It's probably not installed as a package (although it should be,
IMHO). You have to get the source, build it, then build the test program
in the sieve subdirectory by hand.
ok, done, I found make target test in sieve subdir, it's built and
seems to be working. however the filtering does not work:
email messages contain X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0 header (I use 1.6.24)
test message ~/.sieve shows that it would be rejected
the /etc/imapd.conf contains: sieveusehomedir: true
what now?
here's more info:
test of ~/.sieve doesn't print anything, here' ~/.sieve
-- ~/.sieve start
require reject;
if header :contains subject 123 testing sieve {
reject testing sieve message rejected!;
}
-- ~/.sieve end
test message from cyrus inbox, this is how I received the message that
was not rejected:
-- test message start
X-Sieve: cmu-sieve 2.0
Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: by jojda.2y.net (Postfix, from userid 1000)
id 624441D79A; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 17:14:30 -0800 (PST)
X-Mailer: mail (mailutils) 0.0.9c
Subject: 123 testing sieve
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 17:14:30 -0800 (PST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik Steffl)
text of test message
erik
-- test message end
this is the result of running test rrr ~/.sieve (file rrr contains the
above message):
-- test ourput start
jojda:~...cyrus-imapd-2.0.16/sieve./test rrr ~/.sieve
rejecting message 'rrr' with 'testing sieve message rejected!'
notify msg = 'You have new mail
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik Steffl)
Subject: 123 testing sieve
Action(s) taken:
Rejected with: testing sieve message rejected!
' with priority = medium
-- test ourput end
the message above is not rejected (I tested it after I switched to
lmtp). any ideas how to troubleshoot further? My guess is that cyrus
ignores the ~/.sieve, but not sure how to verify that and how to make it
process the file.
I thought that the problem might be 700 permissions on my home
directory so I changed it to 777 (the same for ~/.sieve) but it still
does not work (the message is not rejected). Do I need to restart
something (it looks like there's no daemon for imap running)?
next thing I tried to add the same rule with Subject (uppercase S), no
change...
TIA
erik
Re: sieve (and cyrus) - doesn't work - how to troubleshoot?
Dave Carrigan wrote: Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I thought that the problem might be 700 permissions on my home directory so I changed it to 777 (the same for ~/.sieve) but it still does not work (the message is not rejected). The mode 700 on your directory would definitely be a problem; mail delivery is run as cyrus, and cyrus wouldn't be able to stat files in that directory. However, mode 777 may also be a problem. It's quite possible that sieve refuses to run if the directory or .sieve file has too loose permissions, or the .sieve file isn't owned by the correct user. Try setting the directory to mode 755 and the .sieve file to 644. didn't help: jojda:~ls -ld /home/erik ~/.sieve drwxr-xr-x 141 erik erik 8192 Nov 26 01:43 /home/erik -rw-r--r--1 erik erik 297 Nov 25 20:44 /home/erik/.sieve any ideas how to troubleshoot this? how to get an indication that cyrus is at least considering the file ~/.sieve? thanks, erik
Re: Linux/Windows Universal Benchmark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... That was not a very helpful answer at all. It's as bad as RTFM. RTFM is good answer, even more so when it includes info on which FM to R. sorry, I don't know any comprehensive benchmarks... depending on what you want to test quake might be useful. erik
Re: Somewhat OT: First X uses DRI; 2nd doesn't
Kent West wrote: I'm currently sharing a Debian GNU/Linux box with my sister, and she generally starts X on VT7 via xdm, and I start my X on VT8 with startx -- :1 manually. I finally got direct rendering working on her X, but when I start up my side and run glxinfo|more I get the following error: Xlib: connection to :0.0 refused by server Xlib: Client is not authorized to connect to Server name of display: :1.0 display: :1 screen: 0 direct rendering: No Any ideas how to fix this? I think that's it, the DRI only works for :0, even though I manged to run it on :1, but still had messages about connecting to :0. quite strange... erik
Re: global environment variables?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 02:51:27PM -0800, Peter Hicks wrote: On Sunday 02 December 2001 14:01, dman wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 01:02:50PM -0800, Thomas Zimmerman wrote: | On 03-Dec 01:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | This I aready know. ...but seeing as I didn't ask how do I set an | environment for my cronjobs but how do a set a GLOBAL evironment for | the entire system, it doesn't actually help me much. :) | | [snip other answer} | | Just slip it in /etc/profile. This only works for shells that read /etc/profile (login shells). What Nemo and I are looking for is a way to set the environment for apps run via the panel (that don't have a login shell). -D What about /etc/environment? I put FOO=blah in /etc/environment and restarted crond, then I setup a small script executed from cron which simply did `echo $FOO` Result? nope. I'm afraid /etc/environment isn't that global. AFAIK cron is a bit special since it specifically only set very limited environment (as documented on manpage). If you want some specific environment for cronjob I guess you have to set it right there, by sourcing some file or by setting it with cron job program/script. other than that /etc/environment should cover most of your needs. erik
