Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Thoughts for future features
We have had some customers ask for the capability to accept only from the people in their address book (They use only Webmail). Alternatively, I have been toying with the idea of implementing the Tagged Message Delivery Agent http://software.libertine.org/tmda/ We probably couldn't charge for it but the spammers continue getting more and more obnoxious and this would cut 99% of spam out for some people. We are looking at adding some type of similar system, where users could have a list of E-mail addresses that they would automatically accept mail from; anyone else would have to reply to a confirmation message in order to be able to send E-mail. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
[Declude.JunkMail] Advice for SUBJECT text
Hello... Installed JunkMail on my corporate mailserver (150 employees), and so far, I've set the SUBJECT text to [Spam]. My boss thinks it should be something less definate. He suggests [Spam?] in order to give the impression that the message *may* be spam. I'm interested in what other admins who use SUBJECT are doing for your text, and why. Thx, D. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
[Declude.JunkMail] Global cfg
Does anyone have a global.cfg and $default$.junkmail file that they wouldn't mind sharing to give me ideas at where to start. Thanks, Harvey Rench Network Engineer Clayton Homes, Inc. 865-380-3000 Visit us at www.Clayton.net --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Advice for SUBJECT text
We use: Potential SPAM email hope this helps Christopher Bone Web Engineer Chartway Federal Credit Union Phone: (757) 552-1000 Extension 3902 Fax: (757) 493-8909 Visit us at www.chartway.com The information contained in this e-mail transmission from Chartway Federal Credit Union may be confidential and is intended only for the use of the recipient indicated. If you are not an intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this information and note that such actions are prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify via e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/20/02 11:29AM Hello... Installed JunkMail on my corporate mailserver (150 employees), and so far, I've set the SUBJECT text to [Spam]. My boss thinks it should be something less definate. He suggests [Spam?] in order to give the impression that the message *may* be spam. I'm interested in what other admins who use SUBJECT are doing for your text, and why. Thx, D. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
IPWHOIS:RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Advice for SUBJECT text
On domains where the subject is modified, we add UCE~ to indicate Spam. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J Porter Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Advice for SUBJECT text I had the same concern. I like the question mark idea. I'm currently using [JUNK], [JUNKMAIL], and [FILTERED] .. (with the brackets). I've noticed that even Microsoft email is failing the REVDNS test. It's probably because their server is behind a firewall. Anyone got a good suggestion for how to handle email servers behind firewalls that fail REVDNS?? - Original Message - From: Dale McDiarmid [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:29 AM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Advice for SUBJECT text Hello... Installed JunkMail on my corporate mailserver (150 employees), and so far, I've set the SUBJECT text to [Spam]. My boss thinks it should be something less definate. He suggests [Spam?] in order to give the impression that the message *may* be spam. I'm interested in what other admins who use SUBJECT are doing for your text, and why. Thx, D. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at HNB.com] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Advice for SUBJECT text
I've noticed that even Microsoft email is failing the REVDNS test. It's probably because their server is behind a firewall. No, that's not it. Even if their mailserver is behind a firewall (in which case it likely has a private IP), Declude will see the public IP address, which definitely should have a reverse DNS entry. I'm quite surprised that Microsoft would make a mistake like that (unlike other types of mistakes that Microsoft makes that don't surprise me...). Anyone got a good suggestion for how to handle email servers behind firewalls that fail REVDNS?? Firewalls can't prevent reverse DNS lookups from being done. It's impossible. They could (in theory, although I've never heard of it being done) block reverse DNS requests *if* the DNS servers are all behind the firewall. But, they shouldn't all be behind the firewall. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Advice for SUBJECT text
We use the subject [SPAM] to indicate that the server thought it was SPAM. We found that this provokes more user thought than [SPAM??]. 1- [SPAM] indicates that some process has actually concluded something about the email and the user must act in order to correct the problem if it not SPAM (ie. contact an admin to whitelist the address, etc). 2- If the email is SPAM, then the user feels confident in the servers ability to determine what SPAM is. 3- [SPAM??] tends to lead the user to dismiss the message as What are you asking me for, I don't have time to determine if it is SPAM! If the user is asked to do something (determine if the message is SPAM) they will feel burdened, but if the user thinks the server has done something wronte (incorrectly determined the message is SPAM) they will feel like a hero for indentifying the problem to an admin. :-)) Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dale McDiarmid Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Advice for SUBJECT text Hello... Installed JunkMail on my corporate mailserver (150 employees), and so far, I've set the SUBJECT text to [Spam]. My boss thinks it should be something less definate. He suggests [Spam?] in order to give the impression that the message *may* be spam. I'm interested in what other admins who use SUBJECT are doing for your text, and why. Thx, D. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
[Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
I just switched from DELETE to BOUNCE on my weight13 test. I originally set to DELETE, but wanted more of a safety factor in there, so went to bounce. Of course the inbox associated with the bounce msgs is loaded with bounced bounce messages. Is it safe for me to do something like set that acct to 1-byte capacaity, or a 1-message limit? Will other postmasters bounce up and down when the bounced bounce bounces back to them? Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers, --Matt-- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
Don't bounce from your postmaster acct. That is just bad. Rather create filters so that you delete the return bounce messages. Just my $0.02 Monday, May 20, 2002, 12:31:55 PM, you wrote: MR I just switched from DELETE to BOUNCE on my weight13 test. I originally MR set to DELETE, but wanted more of a safety factor in there, so went to MR bounce. MR Of course the inbox associated with the bounce msgs is loaded with MR bounced bounce messages. Is it safe for me to do something like set MR that acct to 1-byte capacaity, or a 1-message limit? Will other MR postmasters bounce up and down when the bounced bounce bounces back to MR them? Any advice would be appreciated. MR Cheers, MR --Matt-- MR --- MR [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] MR --- MR This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To MR unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and MR type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail MR [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web MR site at http://www.declude.com . MR --- MR [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Best regards, Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com Phone : 620-231- Fax : 620-231-4066 eBay UserID : macahan - Your Full Time Professionals - --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
Yah, I got that part. I created an acct called ''spammaster'' and am sending bounce msgs from it. Using filters is a good idea. Nice and transparent. Anybody have ideas on how to handle the myriad of incoming msgs without a corresponding number of filters? I've never really used them. --Matt-- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:38 AM To: Matt Robertson Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies? Don't bounce from your postmaster acct. That is just bad. Rather create filters so that you delete the return bounce messages. Just my $0.02 Monday, May 20, 2002, 12:31:55 PM, you wrote: MR I just switched from DELETE to BOUNCE on my weight13 test. I MR originally set to DELETE, but wanted more of a safety factor in MR there, so went to bounce. MR Of course the inbox associated with the bounce msgs is loaded with MR bounced bounce messages. Is it safe for me to do something like set MR that acct to 1-byte capacaity, or a 1-message limit? Will other MR postmasters bounce up and down when the bounced bounce bounces back MR to them? Any advice would be appreciated. MR Cheers, MR --Matt-- MR --- MR [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus MR (http://www.declude.com)] MR --- MR This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To MR unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type MR unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] MR for assistance. You can visit our web site at MR http://www.declude.com . MR --- MR [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] Best regards, Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com Phone : 620-231- Fax : 620-231-4066 eBay UserID : macahan - Your Full Time Professionals - --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
I don't like the idea of bouncing or deleting any messages. I don't want to take that responsibility, and potentially zap a message that a user wants. I've set up a local blacklist (based on the spams I've received that didn't fail any tests), a local whitelist, and I've adjusted the individual pre-defined test weights a little, and am testing a configuration that ATTACHes spam that hits a weight of 10, 14, or 20. I've had a few non-spams get a weight of 10, but 14 and 20 are pretty on-target thus far. If the users want to set up filters to delete messages, that's *their* choice. My problem at the moment is figuring out how to explain to a rather unsophisticated user base how to set up their own client or WebMail filters to make use of the whole thing, if they do want to delete anything or move tagged messages to their own holding folder for later review. Glenn Z. - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:48 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies? Yah, I got that part. I created an acct called ''spammaster'' and amsending bounce msgs from it.Using filters is a good idea. Nice and transparent. Anybody have ideason how to handle the myriad of incoming msgs without a correspondingnumber of filters? I've never really used them.--Matt---Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eje GustafssonSent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:38 AMTo: Matt RobertsonSubject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?Don't bounce from your postmaster acct. That is just bad. Rather createfilters so that you delete the return bounce messages. Just my $0.02Monday, May 20, 2002, 12:31:55 PM, you wrote:MR I just switched from DELETE to BOUNCE on my weight13 test. I MR originally set to DELETE, but wanted more of a safety factor in MR there, so went to bounce.MR Of course the inbox associated with the bounce msgs is loaded with MR bounced bounce messages. Is it safe for me to do something like setMR that acct to 1-byte capacaity, or a 1-message limit? Will other MR postmasters bounce up and down when the bounced bounce bounces back MR to them? Any advice would be appreciated.MR Cheers,MR --Matt--MR ---MR [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus MR (http://www.declude.com)]MR ---MR This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To MR unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type MR "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]MR for assistance. You can visit our web site at MR http://www.declude.com .MR ---MR [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]Best regards,Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]---The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.comPhone : 620-231- Fax : 620-231-4066eBay UserID : macahan - Your Full Time Professionals [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]---[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus(http://www.declude.com)]---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type"unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] forassistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .---[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". You can E-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our website at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
My problem at the moment is figuring out how to explain to a rather unsophisticated user base how to set up their own client or WebMail filters to make use of the whole thing, if they do want to delete anything or move tagged messages to their own holding folder for later review. What is really sad is that there has been a de-facto standard for identifying spam for many years now (the X-RBL-Warning: header), yet I'm not aware of a single mail client that detects it. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
I don't like to delete either. I just the other week move almost fully into a 100% weighted system (used to delete spamcop failed and had a few ones that was set to bounce). If the weight is above 30 I delete, weight above 20 I hold. 10 I just put a header on. The held messages I process with spam review (a great program) those that are abvious junk mail that sends a lot of junk I have filters that deletes the messages basically moves them from Decludes hold folder to a spam review hold folder. Every couple of weeks I purge out messages in the spam review hold folder that are older then 2 weeks. So IF a customer is missing a piece of mail they have 2 weeks to get hold of me. However messages that obviously are not junk but ended up in the hold queue for one or another reason I use spam review to return into the queue to get delivered if I see a large amount of held messages from one person I usually create a rule to automatically return this persons messages back into the queue and for the majority of the time I run spam review in Out of office mode during which time it will process my filters automatically. Messages that don't match my filters will sit there for me when I have time (usually spend a little time in the morning processing last 12-24 hours messages). No complaints from any of our customers so far. Well besides the common complaint that they get a lot of junk mail. Delog show that I block 50-60% of incoming messages and yet they complain :( - Eje Monday, May 20, 2002, 12:59:42 PM, you wrote: GW I don't like the idea of bouncing or deleting any messages. I don't want to take that responsibility, and potentially zap a message that a user wants. I've set up a local blacklist (based on GW the spams I've received that didn't fail any tests), a local whitelist, and I've adjusted the individual pre-defined test weights a little, and am testing a configuration that ATTACHes spam that GW hits a weight of 10, 14, or 20. I've had a few non-spams get a weight of 10, but 14 and 20 are pretty on-target thus far. If the users want to set up filters to delete messages, that's *their* GW choice. GW My problem at the moment is figuring out how to explain to a rather unsophisticated user base how to set up their own client or WebMail filters to make use of the whole thing, if they do want to GW delete anything or move tagged messages to their own holding folder for later review. GW Glenn Z. GW - Original Message - GW From: Matt Robertson GW To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GW Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:48 PM GW Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies? GW Yah, I got that part. I created an acct called ''spammaster'' and am GW sending bounce msgs from it. GW Using filters is a good idea. Nice and transparent. Anybody have ideas GW on how to handle the myriad of incoming msgs without a corresponding GW number of filters? I've never really used them. GW --Matt-- GW -Original Message- GW From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GW [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson GW Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:38 AM GW To: Matt Robertson GW Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies? GW Don't bounce from your postmaster acct. That is just bad. Rather create GW filters so that you delete the return bounce messages. Just my $0.02 GW Monday, May 20, 2002, 12:31:55 PM, you wrote: GW MR I just switched from DELETE to BOUNCE on my weight13 test. I GW MR originally set to DELETE, but wanted more of a safety factor in GW MR there, so went to bounce. GW MR Of course the inbox associated with the bounce msgs is loaded with GW MR bounced bounce messages. Is it safe for me to do something like set GW MR that acct to 1-byte capacaity, or a 1-message limit? Will other GW MR postmasters bounce up and down when the bounced bounce bounces back GW MR to them? Any advice would be appreciated. GW MR Cheers, GW MR --Matt-- GW MR --- GW MR [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus GW MR (http://www.declude.com)] GW MR --- GW MR This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To GW MR unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type GW MR unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] GW MR for assistance. You can visit our web site at GW MR http://www.declude.com . GW MR --- GW MR [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] GW Best regards, GWEje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] GW --- GW The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com GW Phone : 620-231- Fax : 620-231-4066 GW eBay UserID : macahan GW - Your Full Time Professionals - GW --- GW [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] GW --- GW [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus GW (http://www.declude.com)] GW --- GW This E-mail came from
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
Glenn Z. wrote My problem at the moment is figuring out how to explain to a rather unsophisticated user base how to set up their own client or WebMail filters Yes, I gave up on that as well. The way I approached it, I asked the user base via a mass email for yea/nay opinions on implementing a spam filter (*everyone* said yes), then later for permission to look at held messages, then once my filters were in order (2 weeks) announced the initiation of DELETE. No complaints, and only three instances since of real mail getting sandbagged (I store my Declude logs forever, set to MID). --Matt-- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
Scott, Maybe I misunderstood your comment but Eudora and Pegasus will filter on an X-Header. Outlook and Outlook Express do not seem to allow for this. At least I have not figured out how to do it. Eudor does not include this as a default but you can add it. At least it works with my version of Eudora and I know someone doing this with Pegasus. Stu What is really sad is that there has been a de-facto standard for identifying spam for many years now (the X-RBL-Warning: header), yet I'm not aware of a single mail client that detects it. -Scott - CSOnline Technical Support hours - Monday thru Saturday 7am - 1am CSOnline Technical Support Numbers Seneca814-677-2447 Clarion 814-227-3638 Meadville 814-425-1696 Parker724-399-1158 http://www.csonline.net http://www.cshowcase.com http://www.learncenter.com - --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
Maybe I misunderstood your comment but Eudora and Pegasus will filter on an X-Header. True, but you have to give people special instructions for those mail clients (Go to Tools, then select Filters, click New Filter, choose Incoming Messages, Any Header...). What they are lacking is a How do you want to handle spam? ( ) Deliver it, ( ) Delete it, (.) Move to 'spam folder' option, defaulting to Move to 'spam folder'. End users wouldn't have to do a thing, and their spam would be handled automatically for them. Outlook and Outlook Express do not seem to allow for this. At least I have not figured out how to do it. That's because Outlook and/or Outlook Express don't have useable filters. :) -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
Yes, I don't see any filter selection in OE (6) or Netscape (4.79) for checking headers, but WebMail does. I think that's where the ATTACH action becomesuseful -- the failed Junk-Mail tests are listed in the body of the advisory, so OE users can do body= filters if they want to "delete from server" (or whatever action)based on Weight values. Glenn Z. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 1:58 PM Subject: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies? Scott,Maybe I misunderstood your comment but Eudora and Pegasus will filter on anX-Header. Outlook and Outlook Express do not seem to allow for this. Atleast I have not figured out how to do it.Eudor does not include this as a default but you can add it. At least itworks with my version of Eudora and I know someone doing this with Pegasus.StuWhat is really sad is that there has been a de-facto standard for identifying spam for many years now (the X-RBL-Warning: header), yet I'm not aware of a single mail client that detects it. -Scott-CSOnline Technical Support hours - Monday thru Saturday 7am - 1am CSOnline Technical Support Numbers Seneca 814-677-2447 Clarion 814-227-3638 Meadville 814-425-1696 Parker 724-399-1158 http://www.csonline.net http://www.cshowcase.com http://www.learncenter.com [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". You can E-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our website at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Advice for SUBJECT text
I'm using the ATTACH action for Weight10, 14, 20, and 30. Subject = Probable Spam! Glenn Z. - Original Message - From: J Porter To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Advice for SUBJECT text I had the same concern. I like the question mark idea.I'm currently using [JUNK], [JUNKMAIL], and [FILTERED] .. (with thebrackets).I've noticed that even Microsoft email is failing the REVDNS test. It'sprobably because their server is behind a firewall.Anyone got a good suggestion for how to handle email servers behindfirewalls that fail REVDNS??- Original Message -From: "Dale McDiarmid" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:29 AMSubject: [Declude.JunkMail] Advice for SUBJECT text Hello... Installed JunkMail on my corporate mailserver (150 employees), and so far, I've set the SUBJECT text to [Spam]. My boss thinks it should be something less definate. He suggests [Spam?] in order to give the impression thatthe message *may* be spam. I'm interested in what other admins who use SUBJECT are doing for your text, and why. Thx, D. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus(http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at HNB.com]---[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". You can E-mail[EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our website at http://www.declude.com .
RE: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
That's because Outlook and/or Outlook Express don't have useable filters.
That's not entirely true. While Outlook doesn't have built-in filters to
look for X-RBL-Warning:, it can be configured to look in the headers for
this string and be filtered. I created a set of rules which I then exported
so when a user cries for help because of spam, I e-mail him/her the rules
file and then import them and activate them. Of course it does require
something to first put the string in the header--thank you Declude!
I played around with the filters.txt file that Outlook uses for its built-in
Junk and Adult Content e-mail detection and added {Headers contains
X-RBL-Warning:} but it didn't work--it apparently won't look into the
headers which is pretty sad.
Disclaimer: I work for a relatively small organization so it's quite easy
for me to bop around and set this up for people.
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RE: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
That's because Outlook and/or Outlook Express don't have useable filters. That's not entirely true. While Outlook doesn't have built-in filters to look for X-RBL-Warning:, it can be configured to look in the headers for this string and be filtered. By usable filters, I mean being able to filter on headers (which *any* mail client with filters should allow for). It sounds like there are some versions of Outlook and/or Outlook Express that can filter on headers, but there are also many that can not. I don't have a list of which versions do and which do not. However, I have heard from a lot of people (admins) that say that they can't find any way for (some versions of) Outlook and/or Outlook Express to filter on headers. It sounds like Microsoft may not have allowed header filtering in the past, but perhaps more recent versions do. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
As a matter of reference we're using Rules in Outlook Express 6 and Outlook 2000/2, I can't say what the level of support for rules is in Outlook for older verions. David WiSS Limited -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 May 2002 21:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies? That's because Outlook and/or Outlook Express don't have useable filters. That's not entirely true. While Outlook doesn't have built-in filters to look for X-RBL-Warning:, it can be configured to look in the headers for this string and be filtered. By usable filters, I mean being able to filter on headers (which *any* mail client with filters should allow for). It sounds like there are some versions of Outlook and/or Outlook Express that can filter on headers, but there are also many that can not. I don't have a list of which versions do and which do not. However, I have heard from a lot of people (admins) that say that they can't find any way for (some versions of) Outlook and/or Outlook Express to filter on headers. It sounds like Microsoft may not have allowed header filtering in the past, but perhaps more recent versions do. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
Ditto on Outlook 2000. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Lewis-Waller Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:06 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies? As a matter of reference we're using Rules in Outlook Express 6 and Outlook 2000/2, I can't say what the level of support for rules is in Outlook for older verions. David WiSS Limited -Original Message- From: R. Scott Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 May 2002 21:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies? That's because Outlook and/or Outlook Express don't have useable filters. That's not entirely true. While Outlook doesn't have built-in filters to look for X-RBL-Warning:, it can be configured to look in the headers for this string and be filtered. By usable filters, I mean being able to filter on headers (which *any* mail client with filters should allow for). It sounds like there are some versions of Outlook and/or Outlook Express that can filter on headers, but there are also many that can not. I don't have a list of which versions do and which do not. However, I have heard from a lot of people (admins) that say that they can't find any way for (some versions of) Outlook and/or Outlook Express to filter on headers. It sounds like Microsoft may not have allowed header filtering in the past, but perhaps more recent versions do. -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
To solve that problem and postmaster bounces to bad addresses (spammers sending to full or non-existing mailboxes) I wrote a script that scans the spool for the bounce messages and removes them from queue after 3 failed delivery attempts, my default is 24 attempts. This virtually eliminated SMTP32 lockup since my queue no longer bloats with undeliverable mail. I went from a low of approximately 800 messages in queue to 100 - 200 at nearly any given time. The 800 was actually normal before using bounce. I did notice before I used the script, that if the declude bounce fails, a postmaster bounce is generated, compounding the clutter. One last note, I started using bounce right after both it and weighting were available, and only have had two complaints about wrongfully bounced mail, I use a weight of 20 to bounce, with some tweaking to the weights, though. Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Robertson Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies? I just switched from DELETE to BOUNCE on my weight13 test. I originally set to DELETE, but wanted more of a safety factor in there, so went to bounce. Of course the inbox associated with the bounce msgs is loaded with bounced bounce messages. Is it safe for me to do something like set that acct to 1-byte capacaity, or a 1-message limit? Will other postmasters bounce up and down when the bounced bounce bounces back to them? Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers, --Matt-- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
Can I get some details: Your script checks each message in the outbound queue and if the message is a bounce message (sender = ???) and has been attempted 3 times, you delete the message (Q and D files). Also, how do you schedule it? Can I get a copy of this script? Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Frolick Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 3:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies? To solve that problem and postmaster bounces to bad addresses (spammers sending to full or non-existing mailboxes) I wrote a script that scans the spool for the bounce messages and removes them from queue after 3 failed delivery attempts, my default is 24 attempts. This virtually eliminated SMTP32 lockup since my queue no longer bloats with undeliverable mail. I went from a low of approximately 800 messages in queue to 100 - 200 at nearly any given time. The 800 was actually normal before using bounce. I did notice before I used the script, that if the declude bounce fails, a postmaster bounce is generated, compounding the clutter. One last note, I started using bounce right after both it and weighting were available, and only have had two complaints about wrongfully bounced mail, I use a weight of 20 to bounce, with some tweaking to the weights, though. Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Robertson Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies? I just switched from DELETE to BOUNCE on my weight13 test. I originally set to DELETE, but wanted more of a safety factor in there, so went to bounce. Of course the inbox associated with the bounce msgs is loaded with bounced bounce messages. Is it safe for me to do something like set that acct to 1-byte capacaity, or a 1-message limit? Will other postmasters bounce up and down when the bounced bounce bounces back to them? Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers, --Matt-- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
[Declude.JunkMail] Wish List
Hi; Would it not be great if we could assign an e-Mail or a number of e-Mails that if someone sends a message to they will automatically get blacklisted? This would immediately save all the junk they will manage to send through. We have had employees that are no longer with us (some for years) and looking at our log files it is amazing how much junk mail we receive in the nobody account for these users.. This is almost an absolutely correct test since only the SPAMMERS are using these addresses. Can this ever be done? Regards, Kami --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List
Would it not be great if we could assign an e-Mail or a number of e-Mails that if someone sends a message to they will automatically get blacklisted? This would immediately save all the junk they will manage to send through. It is a good idea. The question though is what to block -- the remote mailserver, the return address, or something else? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
Chuck, I would be interested in seeing your script, as well. Anyway help in keeping the queue cleaned in an automated fashion works for me. Thanks, Bill -Original Message- From: Todd Holt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies? Can I get some details: Your script checks each message in the outbound queue and if the message is a bounce message (sender = ???) and has been attempted 3 times, you delete the message (Q and D files). Also, how do you schedule it? Can I get a copy of this script? Todd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charles Frolick Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 3:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies? To solve that problem and postmaster bounces to bad addresses (spammers sending to full or non-existing mailboxes) I wrote a script that scans the spool for the bounce messages and removes them from queue after 3 failed delivery attempts, my default is 24 attempts. This virtually eliminated SMTP32 lockup since my queue no longer bloats with undeliverable mail. I went from a low of approximately 800 messages in queue to 100 - 200 at nearly any given time. The 800 was actually normal before using bounce. I did notice before I used the script, that if the declude bounce fails, a postmaster bounce is generated, compounding the clutter. One last note, I started using bounce right after both it and weighting were available, and only have had two complaints about wrongfully bounced mail, I use a weight of 20 to bounce, with some tweaking to the weights, though. Chuck Frolick ArgoNet, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Matt Robertson Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies? I just switched from DELETE to BOUNCE on my weight13 test. I originally set to DELETE, but wanted more of a safety factor in there, so went to bounce. Of course the inbox associated with the bounce msgs is loaded with bounced bounce messages. Is it safe for me to do something like set that acct to 1-byte capacaity, or a 1-message limit? Will other postmasters bounce up and down when the bounced bounce bounces back to them? Any advice would be appreciated. Cheers, --Matt-- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List
I am staring at our reports... I find the following trends: When these spammers send e-Mail, they use a bogus email such as: (based on our log): [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now looking at this e-Mail - this person has sent e-Mail to almost everybody in the company in different bursts. So lets say that we have a temporary blacklist (since this email will never be used after so many hours) that will block this user for so many hours and then will release it. This will save on the space needed to keep track of all the e-Mails that will never be used but yet will save a lot of overhead during their attack. Of course the temporary blacklist will be in addition to the permanent list that we are finding more and more companies that really need to be blocked. Two new comers to us are: @permissionpass.com .permissionpass.com @your-info.net .your-info.net We are flooded by these domains. Anyhow Regards, Kami -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 5:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List Would it not be great if we could assign an e-Mail or a number of e-Mails that if someone sends a message to they will automatically get blacklisted? This would immediately save all the junk they will manage to send through. It is a good idea. The question though is what to block -- the remote mailserver, the return address, or something else? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List
I'm already doing this. I have a program on the server that runs 24x7 and checks a specific email account every minute. In my case the email account is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This works with IMail Rules file. The process is as follows: You, as an email users, forward the email in question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This program sees the email, strips it down, and replys to you with information about what email address it is going to add to the IMail rules. If you reply to this email it is added to your Rules and IMail takes care of all email from that address in the future. I could add this to SpamReview, if you like and it would work in the Out-Of-Office Mode, or make it a seperate program. However, as Scott points out it will not be perfect. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List Would it not be great if we could assign an e-Mail or a number of e-Mails that if someone sends a message to they will automatically get blacklisted? This would immediately save all the junk they will manage to send through. It is a good idea. The question though is what to block -- the remote mailserver, the return address, or something else? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?
What version of OE provides checking headers?
Mine is 6.00.2600.. The choices I have are:
from
subject
body
to
CC
to or CC
priority
account
size
attachment
secure
for all messages
Glenn Z.
- Original Message -
From:
David
Lewis-Waller
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 2:49 PM
Subject: RE: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail]
Bounce strategies?
We use Rules in Outlook and Outlook Express to filter on
X-RBL-Warning inthe header, it works well enough, users seem to find it
pretty easy to setup as well. DavidWiSS
Limited-Original Message-From: R. Scott Perry
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 May 2002 20:20To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:
Re: DSN:Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Bounce strategies?Maybe I
misunderstood your comment but Eudora and Pegasus will filter on an
X-Header.True, but you have to give people special instructions for
those mail clients ("Go to Tools, then select Filters, click "New Filter",
choose "Incoming Messages", "Any Header"...).What they are lacking
is a "How do you want to handle spam? ( ) Deliver it, ( ) Delete it,
(.) Move to 'spam folder'" option, defaulting to "Move to 'spam
folder'". End users wouldn't have to do a thing, and their spam
would be handled automatically for them.Outlook and Outlook
Express do not seem to allow for this. At least I have not figured out
how to do it.That's because Outlook and/or Outlook Express don't have
useable
filters.:)
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[Declude.JunkMail] AOL, SpamCop et al
Does anyone know where I can check Spamcop to see if an address is listed with them? They seem to have hidden the thing very well. Part of why I'm asking is a client - using AOL's email program - just forwarded several messages to recipients on my server and some of them were bounced. The tests failed were NOPOSTMASTER and SPAMCOP. Does SpamSop have the AOL domain blocked off? That'd be crazy. --- Matt Robertson[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc., www.mysecretbase.com --- --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL, SpamCop et al
Does anyone know where I can check Spamcop to see if an address is listed with them? They seem to have hidden the thing very well. There may be a URL with a form to do it, but if not, you can go to http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (replacing xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx with the IP address you are looking up). Part of why I'm asking is a client - using AOL's email program - just forwarded several messages to recipients on my server and some of them were bounced. The tests failed were NOPOSTMASTER and SPAMCOP. Does SpamSop have the AOL domain blocked off? That'd be crazy. The SPAMCOP test doesn't discriminate -- if it sees spam from AOL addresses, it will list them. Occasionally, popular ISPs will get a mailserver that isn't an open relay listed in SPAMCOP, if they have a user that sends out spam. Also, occasionally legitimate mailers will get listed (if enough recipients think it is spam, even if they had previously requested it, it will get listed). -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] AOL, SpamCop et al
Cool. Thanks. I actually did hunt down the form. Don't know why I thought it so tough to find, although it is tucked away a bit more than it once was: http://spamcop.net/bl.shtml --- Matt Robertson[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc., www.mysecretbase.com --- -- Original Message -- From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 18:31:24 -0400 Does anyone know where I can check Spamcop to see if an address is listed with them? They seem to have hidden the thing very well. There may be a URL with a form to do it, but if not, you can go to http://spamcop.net/w3m?action=checkblockip=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (replacing xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx with the IP address you are looking up). Part of why I'm asking is a client - using AOL's email program - just forwarded several messages to recipients on my server and some of them were bounced. The tests failed were NOPOSTMASTER and SPAMCOP. Does SpamSop have the AOL domain blocked off? That'd be crazy. The SPAMCOP test doesn't discriminate -- if it sees spam from AOL addresses, it will list them. Occasionally, popular ISPs will get a mailserver that isn't an open relay listed in SPAMCOP, if they have a user that sends out spam. Also, occasionally legitimate mailers will get listed (if enough recipients think it is spam, even if they had previously requested it, it will get listed). -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List
Add away. Thanks David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Schwarz Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List I'm already doing this. I have a program on the server that runs 24x7 and checks a specific email account every minute. In my case the email account is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This works with IMail Rules file. The process is as follows: You, as an email users, forward the email in question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This program sees the email, strips it down, and replys to you with information about what email address it is going to add to the IMail rules. If you reply to this email it is added to your Rules and IMail takes care of all email from that address in the future. I could add this to SpamReview, if you like and it would work in the Out-Of-Office Mode, or make it a seperate program. However, as Scott points out it will not be perfect. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List Would it not be great if we could assign an e-Mail or a number of e-Mails that if someone sends a message to they will automatically get blacklisted? This would immediately save all the junk they will manage to send through. It is a good idea. The question though is what to block -- the remote mailserver, the return address, or something else? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List
David, Only if it were that easy. I'll toss it into the next major release. ? Do you use the Out of Office feature now? Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Stavert Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List Importance: Low Add away. Thanks David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Schwarz Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List I'm already doing this. I have a program on the server that runs 24x7 and checks a specific email account every minute. In my case the email account is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This works with IMail Rules file. The process is as follows: You, as an email users, forward the email in question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This program sees the email, strips it down, and replys to you with information about what email address it is going to add to the IMail rules. If you reply to this email it is added to your Rules and IMail takes care of all email from that address in the future. I could add this to SpamReview, if you like and it would work in the Out-Of-Office Mode, or make it a seperate program. However, as Scott points out it will not be perfect. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List Would it not be great if we could assign an e-Mail or a number of e-Mails that if someone sends a message to they will automatically get blacklisted? This would immediately save all the junk they will manage to send through. It is a good idea. The question though is what to block -- the remote mailserver, the return address, or something else? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List
Tom Are you referring to the vacation message in IMail or the out of office feature in Outlook / Exchange. We use both depending on the client or the application. It might be as well to use the Program Alias in IMail to process the email and add the address to the domain rules. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Schwarz Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List David, Only if it were that easy. I'll toss it into the next major release. ? Do you use the Out of Office feature now? Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Stavert Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List Importance: Low Add away. Thanks David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Schwarz Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List I'm already doing this. I have a program on the server that runs 24x7 and checks a specific email account every minute. In my case the email account is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This works with IMail Rules file. The process is as follows: You, as an email users, forward the email in question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This program sees the email, strips it down, and replys to you with information about what email address it is going to add to the IMail rules. If you reply to this email it is added to your Rules and IMail takes care of all email from that address in the future. I could add this to SpamReview, if you like and it would work in the Out-Of-Office Mode, or make it a seperate program. However, as Scott points out it will not be perfect. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List Would it not be great if we could assign an e-Mail or a number of e-Mails that if someone sends a message to they will automatically get blacklisted? This would immediately save all the junk they will manage to send through. It is a good idea. The question though is what to block -- the remote mailserver, the return address, or something else? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List
No, I am talking about the Out of Office feature in SpamReview. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Stavert Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 8:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List Importance: Low Tom Are you referring to the vacation message in IMail or the out of office feature in Outlook / Exchange. We use both depending on the client or the application. It might be as well to use the Program Alias in IMail to process the email and add the address to the domain rules. David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Schwarz Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List David, Only if it were that easy. I'll toss it into the next major release. ? Do you use the Out of Office feature now? Tom -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Stavert Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List Importance: Low Add away. Thanks David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Schwarz Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List I'm already doing this. I have a program on the server that runs 24x7 and checks a specific email account every minute. In my case the email account is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This works with IMail Rules file. The process is as follows: You, as an email users, forward the email in question to [EMAIL PROTECTED] This program sees the email, strips it down, and replys to you with information about what email address it is going to add to the IMail rules. If you reply to this email it is added to your Rules and IMail takes care of all email from that address in the future. I could add this to SpamReview, if you like and it would work in the Out-Of-Office Mode, or make it a seperate program. However, as Scott points out it will not be perfect. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List Would it not be great if we could assign an e-Mail or a number of e-Mails that if someone sends a message to they will automatically get blacklisted? This would immediately save all the junk they will manage to send through. It is a good idea. The question though is what to block -- the remote mailserver, the return address, or something else? -Scott --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com . --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List
Hello Tom, Would i tbe possible to have SpamReview submit mailservers to like DSBL like test systems and possible Spamcop (maybe look in header to check for what Declude test message didn't fail and submit to those that it passed). Not sure how really useful it would be but it was a thought I had the other day. TS David, TS Only if it were that easy. I'll toss it into the next major release. TS ? Do you use the Out of Office feature now? TS Tom TS -Original Message- TS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Stavert TS Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 6:44 PM TS To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TS Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List TS Importance: Low TS Add away. TS Thanks TS David TS -Original Message- TS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Schwarz TS Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:24 PM TS To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TS Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List TS I'm already doing this. I have a program on the server that runs 24x7 and TS checks a specific email account every minute. In my case the email account TS is [EMAIL PROTECTED] TS This works with IMail Rules file. TS The process is as follows: TS You, as an email users, forward the email in question to TS [EMAIL PROTECTED] This program sees the email, strips it down, and TS replys to you with information about what email address it is going to add TS to the IMail rules. If you reply to this email it is added to your Rules TS and IMail takes care of all email from that address in the future. I could TS add this to SpamReview, if you like and it would work in the Out-Of-Office TS Mode, or make it a seperate program. TS However, as Scott points out it will not be perfect. TS -Original Message- TS From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry TS Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 4:09 PM TS To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] TS Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Wish List Would it not be great if we could assign an e-Mail or a number of e-Mails that if someone sends a message to they will automatically get blacklisted? This would immediately save all the junk they will manage to send through. TS It is a good idea. The question though is what to block -- the remote TS mailserver, the return address, or something else? TS -Scott TS --- TS [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus TS (http://www.declude.com)] TS --- TS This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To TS unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and TS type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail TS [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web TS site at http://www.declude.com . TS --- TS [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus TS (http://www.declude.com)] TS --- TS This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To TS unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and TS type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail TS [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web TS site at http://www.declude.com . TS --- TS [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus TS (http://www.declude.com)] TS --- TS This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To TS unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and TS type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail TS [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web TS site at http://www.declude.com . TS --- TS [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] TS --- TS This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To TS unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and TS type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail TS [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web TS site at http://www.declude.com . TS --- TS [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
[Declude.JunkMail] Enhancement - direct spam to folder
I think this is somewhere on Scott's list, but I'd like to bring it up again as a really good enhancement. Have declude test that moves suspected spam to a mail folder. This allows the system admin (us) to configure a good solution for naiive users. We can let the users tell us which level of testing they want: no testing (disable any spam tests) delete (auto delete detected spam) quarantine (move suspected email to a spam folder) IMail supports folders with both POP and IMAP. For IMAP or WebMail, it is easy, for POP, the user will need to be trained to configure an additional email profile with the username-spambox%domain.com syntax to download the spambox folder (assuming non static IP's). But this training issue would be worth the trouble -- easier than trying to teach them how to write filters or wrestle with OE/Outloook's lack of header filters or easy way to write them. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. You can E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. You can visit our web site at http://www.declude.com .
