Optimum installer (was: Open Office Impress, the free power point)
Following up to myself with more details since we now know where the problem came from: On 09.01.2013 09:07, I wrote: On 09.01.2013 02:36, james quayle wrote: Hey, Just wanted to let you know that your program has a Trojan Horse attached to it. I downloaded your program, so that I could create a Powerpoint for school, and my security software informed me that there was a Trojan Horse attached to the Open Office files. Luckily my system protected my computer and blocked it immediately. So I then had to uninstall the program. It might be a great idea to fix that asap. Have a great day. [...] As Peter wrote it would be interesting where you downloaded the infected version from. Checking your browser's history is the easiest way to find that out. We now know where he downloaded it from. He got it from a place that bundles it with some adware named optimum-installer. In their download page for OpenOffice they are not shy about it and document that: XXX is distributing custom installers which are different from the originally available distribution. These new installers comply with the original software manufacturers’ policies and terms conditions, however, they are not the originals. Optimum Installer is an install manager, which manages the installation of your chosen software. In addition to managing your download and installation, Optimum Installer will offer free popular software that you may be interested in. You are not required to install any additional software to complete your installation of your selected software. You can always completely remove the programs at any time in Windows’ Add/Remove Programs The trojan horse alert of his security software was apparantly triggered by the adware they are bundling that is apparently quite nosy and communicative. http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html is the most reliable start for downloading a clean copy of our favorite productivity suite. This cannot be overstated. Please spread the word. Herbert
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM stands, practical information
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: do we have any material in place, like a banner, roll-ups, stickers, poster, flyers etc. Maybe we can agree on some budget for producing a minimal set... I can think of some stickers (70x50mm, 500, 54€), a banner (200x100, flag material, with eyelets, heavy-duty, washable, 75€. Mainly using the Orb + Apache OpenOffice + a small Apache logo I definitely agree with this. Obviously we need a roll-up for FOSDEM. If we want to stay low-cost, we could think of: - Rollup - Stickers - Leaflets (to be translated into English, B/W print is OK) - Pins? There are more versatile than stickers and the round pin with the orb, that I've seen at previous events, is still useable. If you need a shipping address in Brussels, it's no problem, just contact me off-list. But of course this only works one way, because someone will have to bring back the FOSDEM rollup and the extra merchandising... Regards, Andrea.
Re: Apache OpenOffice at FOSDEM 2013
Am 09.01.2013 20:54, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 27/12/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: Rony G. Flatscher (Apache) wrote: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/FOSDEM+2013+Proposals Is the program of the AOO presentations set already? Speakers have already been notified of acceptance/rejection. But the detailed schedule is not ready yet, it will take some more days. Schedule now ready at https://fosdem.org/2013/schedule/track/apache_openoffice/ We were also officially assigned our room: room AW1.125. You will find that we also added the Hacking OpenOffice session. Not a presentation, but more a questions/answers session, where I expect everybody who has experience with OpenOffice development to be there and discuss best practices and possible tasks that newcomers can pick (I had to list some names as speakers due to technical constraints, e-mail me off-list if you want me to make changes). Andrea, could you please make a simple poster, which contains the dev-room program (and the room number). We can place it a the stand (booth) to inform the public in that way. Maybe we can place it also on other places. Regards Michael signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Fwd: FOSDEM stands, practical information
On 1/10/13 9:36 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Jürgen Schmidt wrote: do we have any material in place, like a banner, roll-ups, stickers, poster, flyers etc. Maybe we can agree on some budget for producing a minimal set... I can think of some stickers (70x50mm, 500, 54€), a banner (200x100, flag material, with eyelets, heavy-duty, washable, 75€. Mainly using the Orb + Apache OpenOffice + a small Apache logo I definitely agree with this. Obviously we need a roll-up for FOSDEM. If we want to stay low-cost, we could think of: - Rollup - Stickers - Leaflets (to be translated into English, B/W print is OK) - Pins? There are more versatile than stickers and the round pin with the orb, that I've seen at previous events, is still useable. If you need a shipping address in Brussels, it's no problem, just contact me off-list. But of course this only works one way, because someone will have to bring back the FOSDEM rollup and the extra merchandising... the key point is that somebody has to drive it, I am unfortunately do not have the time to do it. Juergen
Here to help...
Hi All I have been using OO from Ver1, I'd like to try and help make Ver 4.0 better. Am retired now. Built my first computer from a kit Sinclair ZX88 (wish I had that Today). I enjoy bicyle riding, I paint (oils mostly), and goof off a lot (according to my wife). New at this, ...if i'm doing it wrong tell me so i can make it right. Looking forward to something new -- Ralf Richeii emy...@gmail.com
Re: Introduction
Hi Olga, On 1/10/13 2:54 AM, Olga Plyasunova wrote: Hi everyone, my name is Olga. I'm from Montreal, Canada. I have one year of experience in software testing and would like to join to the team of Apache OpenOffice welcome at Apache OpenOffice and great that you are interested to help us to improve our software. I noticed that you are not yet subscribed to the dev mailing list and I recommend that subscribe to the dev list as well as our dedicated qa list. Otherwise you don't get the replies directly. If the traffic on these lists become too much I recommend to use mail filters to organize it in sub folders that you red from time to time. You can easy subscribe by sending a mail to dev-subscribe at openoffice.apache.org and qa-subscribe at openoffice.apache.org Further mailing list that might be of interest for you can be found under http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html The best way to get started is to send a further mail on the qa mailing list and ask how to start best. QA is a very important area and you can help with manual testing or if you have some experience in Java you can join the ongoing efforts to create new or can enhance existing automated tests. Again welcome at Apache OpenOffice Juergen
FOSDEM booked / Material list for the stand
Hello all I just booked the FOSDEM. So I will be there and I can also help at the stand. I'm happy to meet new and familiar faces there. Do we have a list on the wiki with materials for the stand? Greetings Raphael
[IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0
Hi, From my point it is important to point out (and also discuss) that the installation of a AOO 4.0 - our planned next major release - will not migrate/use a user profile from a former installed AOO (or OOo) version. This has been also mentioned in our blog Your top questions answered, answer to question 10 [1]. It is a consequence of the new version number - 4.0 - as the major version number - 4 - is part of the folder/directory path to the user profile. But, it is already a consequence of the completed renaming from OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice as the productname (in a certain form) is also part of the folder/directory path to the user profile - see issue 121388. We have a lot of trouble with the migration/usage of user profiles of former installed OOo 3.x versions - unfortunately I could never reproduce these problems and thus I could not work on a fix. Thus, not migrate/use a user profile from former installed AOO (or OOo) versions would solve these problems. Let the discussion begin :-) [1] https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/your_top_questions_answered Best regards, Oliver.
Re: Adapt the naming of our project deliverables - OpenOffice.org -- Apache OpenOffice
Hi Oliver-Rainer, On 10.01.2013 11:23, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: I have finished the renaming from OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice - see issue 121388. Beside corresponding changes in the user interface this change has impact on the following important and critical stuff: - folder/directory names - package names - Windows registry key names and values - ... As the folder/directory path to the user profile is also changed, the user profile of a former installed AOO (or OOo) version is not taken over. for installation script purposes of add-ons etc., where can one find the concrete strings for folder/directory names on the various operating system platforms and the Windows registry key names and values? TIA, ---rony
Re: Adapt the naming of our project deliverables - OpenOffice.org -- Apache OpenOffice
Hi Oliver-Rainer, On 10.01.2013 11:23, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: I have finished the renaming from OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice - see issue 121388. Beside corresponding changes in the user interface this change has impact on the following important and critical stuff: - folder/directory names - package names - Windows registry key names and values - ... As the folder/directory path to the user profile is also changed, the user profile of a former installed AOO (or OOo) version is not taken over. for installation script purposes of add-ons etc., where can one find the concrete strings for folder/directory names on the various operating system platforms and the Windows registry key names and values? TIA, ---rony
level 1 accomplished
Hello! I just wanted to say that I'm done with level 1. Regards, Anders Kvibäck
Re: FOSDEM booked / Material list for the stand
Hi Raphael I'm happy to meet you there. A+ -- gw 2013/1/10 Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch Hello all I just booked the FOSDEM. So I will be there and I can also help at the stand. I'm happy to meet new and familiar faces there. Do we have a list on the wiki with materials for the stand? Greetings Raphael
Re: [RELEASE]: AOO 3.4.1 respin
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 10:56:46AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I will start the build of the first official AOO 3.4.1 respin snapshot today based on revision 1424891 on the AOO34 branch. The new supported languages are ast, da, eu, gd, pl, ko, nb, sv. I will built a new updated source release, including the translation updates. The only further change is in the scripts for building the source release where I include the revision number. @Ariel: can you please start the build for Linux as well? Linux packages are available at http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/respin_aoo341 Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpAISmI4Swgt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 6:05 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann orwittm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, From my point it is important to point out (and also discuss) that the installation of a AOO 4.0 - our planned next major release - will not migrate/use a user profile from a former installed AOO (or OOo) version. This has been also mentioned in our blog Your top questions answered, answer to question 10 [1]. It is a consequence of the new version number - 4.0 - as the major version number - 4 - is part of the folder/directory path to the user profile. But, it is already a consequence of the completed renaming from OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice as the productname (in a certain form) is also part of the folder/directory path to the user profile - see issue 121388. We have a lot of trouble with the migration/usage of user profiles of former installed OOo 3.x versions - unfortunately I could never reproduce these problems and thus I could not work on a fix. Thus, not migrate/use a user profile from former installed AOO (or OOo) versions would solve these problems. If we have not figured out exactly what causes the current OOo 3.3.0 - AOO 3.4.x profile migration problems, how are we certain that these problems will not come back when we migrate AOO 4.0 to AOO 4.1 ??? -Rob Let the discussion begin :-) [1] https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/your_top_questions_answered Best regards, Oliver.
Re: [RELEASE]: AOO 3.4.1 respin
On 1/10/13 1:38 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 10:56:46AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I will start the build of the first official AOO 3.4.1 respin snapshot today based on revision 1424891 on the AOO34 branch. The new supported languages are ast, da, eu, gd, pl, ko, nb, sv. I will built a new updated source release, including the translation updates. The only further change is in the scripts for building the source release where I include the revision number. @Ariel: can you please start the build for Linux as well? Linux packages are available at http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/respin_aoo341 perfect Is it possible that you organize it as before for the dev snapshots public_html/developer-snapshots/r1429825/windows public_html/developer-snapshots/r1429825/windows/languagepacks public_html/developer-snapshots/r1429825/macos public_html/developer-snapshots/r1429825/macos/languagepacks public_html/developer-snapshots/r1429825/src I started to update the snapshot page https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds and will include your builds as well. Juergen
Re: [RELEASE]: AOO 3.4.1 respin
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 02:19:11PM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 1/10/13 1:38 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 10:56:46AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I will start the build of the first official AOO 3.4.1 respin snapshot today based on revision 1424891 on the AOO34 branch. The new supported languages are ast, da, eu, gd, pl, ko, nb, sv. I will built a new updated source release, including the translation updates. The only further change is in the scripts for building the source release where I include the revision number. @Ariel: can you please start the build for Linux as well? Linux packages are available at http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/respin_aoo341 perfect Is it possible that you organize it as before for the dev snapshots public_html/developer-snapshots/r1429825/windows public_html/developer-snapshots/r1429825/windows/languagepacks public_html/developer-snapshots/r1429825/macos public_html/developer-snapshots/r1429825/macos/languagepacks public_html/developer-snapshots/r1429825/src Done: http://people.apache.org/~arielch/developer-snapshots/r1429825/ Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpbBchYhYDr6.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Help please: Can we get some more easy bugs marked in Bugzilla?
Hi Rob, * On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 11:25:28AM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: Looking right now and I only see three: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=cf_fix_difficultylist_id=41193o1=equalsresolution=---query_format=advancedv1=easy I'd like to start a call for dev volunteers in the next few weeks. I assume it will take them a few days to get their builds up and running. But after that they will be looking for tasks to work on. We agreed to use the difficulty field in Bugzilla for this, to indicate which bugs are most suitable for new volunteers. So I need your help to get a bunch of issues that are suitable for new volunteers. Ideally we'd have 30 or more classified as easy. Note: these do not need to be bugs. We can have enhancements that are easy. Even cleanup work. So feel free to enter new tasks, with the difficulty field set, so we have something to point new volunteers to. There are three API-related task that would be nice to have completed for AOO 4: 121578 - [IDL] Convert old-style services implementing a single interface to new-style https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121578 121582 - [IDL] Unify services and interfaces which are merely an extension https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121582 121606 - Implement multiple inheritance for the ease of API usage https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121606 Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpVEXR4J75Pj.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Problems with Download
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:11:32 -0500 Jan Heckler jan.heck...@pcusa.org wrote: Hi! I am a missionary in Madagascar and my online anti-virus program (TrendMicro) has all the sites your site sends me to to download your software as unacceptably UNSAFE. I went to order a CD and your site says it is studying the possibility of doing this again. Please work out a safe download site with TrendMicro so they don't block your downloads. And, if there is a solution for me I don't see at prsent, please so advise me. Thanks in advance. Peace, Janice B. Heckler Mission Co-Worker Presbyterian Church (USA) Antananarivo, Madagascar If you download from www.openoffice.org/download you will be routed to sourceforge who host our downloads. If you check that you are downloading from such a site you can be reasonably certain that the warning from TrendMicro is a false positive. You can verify the download by checking its MD5Sum as told at http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/3.4.1_checksums.html#howto You can obtain the MD5Sum from http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/3.4.1_checksums.html Great care is taken with our download files that they do not become contaminated with virises or malware; from other sites not under or control they are often loaded with adware and other objectionable addons. But from the above sites I feel sure you ought have no problems. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Fwd: Problems with Download
Forwarding response, since Jan is not subscribed to the list. -Rob -- Forwarded message -- From: Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:24 AM Subject: Re: Problems with Download To: dev@openoffice.apache.org On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 08:11:32 -0500 Jan Heckler jan.heck...@pcusa.org wrote: Hi! I am a missionary in Madagascar and my online anti-virus program (TrendMicro) has all the sites your site sends me to to download your software as unacceptably UNSAFE. I went to order a CD and your site says it is studying the possibility of doing this again. Please work out a safe download site with TrendMicro so they don't block your downloads. And, if there is a solution for me I don't see at prsent, please so advise me. Thanks in advance. Peace, Janice B. Heckler Mission Co-Worker Presbyterian Church (USA) Antananarivo, Madagascar If you download from www.openoffice.org/download you will be routed to sourceforge who host our downloads. If you check that you are downloading from such a site you can be reasonably certain that the warning from TrendMicro is a false positive. You can verify the download by checking its MD5Sum as told at http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/3.4.1_checksums.html#howto You can obtain the MD5Sum from http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums/3.4.1_checksums.html Great care is taken with our download files that they do not become contaminated with virises or malware; from other sites not under or control they are often loaded with adware and other objectionable addons. But from the above sites I feel sure you ought have no problems. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: Help please: Can we get some more easy bugs marked in Bugzilla?
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: Hi Rob, * On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 11:25:28AM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: Looking right now and I only see three: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=cf_fix_difficultylist_id=41193o1=equalsresolution=---query_format=advancedv1=easy I'd like to start a call for dev volunteers in the next few weeks. I assume it will take them a few days to get their builds up and running. But after that they will be looking for tasks to work on. We agreed to use the difficulty field in Bugzilla for this, to indicate which bugs are most suitable for new volunteers. So I need your help to get a bunch of issues that are suitable for new volunteers. Ideally we'd have 30 or more classified as easy. Note: these do not need to be bugs. We can have enhancements that are easy. Even cleanup work. So feel free to enter new tasks, with the difficulty field set, so we have something to point new volunteers to. There are three API-related task that would be nice to have completed for AOO 4: 121578 - [IDL] Convert old-style services implementing a single interface to new-style https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121578 121582 - [IDL] Unify services and interfaces which are merely an extension https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121582 121606 - Implement multiple inheritance for the ease of API usage https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121606 OK. Thanks. Though I must admit that I've never heard the word multiple inheritance and easy used together in the same sentence ;-) -Rob Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: Help please: Can we get some more easy bugs marked in Bugzilla?
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=cf_fix_difficultylist_id=41193o1=equalsresolution=---query_format=advancedv1=easy We agreed to use the difficulty field in Bugzilla for this, to indicate which bugs are most suitable for new volunteers. So I need your help to get a bunch of issues that are suitable for new volunteers. Ideally we'd have 30 or more classified as easy. And ideally people who mark a bug/enhancement as easy would be people who know how to fix it, but are simply busy with other tasks. They should add a comment saying they are available to mentor the developer who chooses to fix that bug: this would help a lot in getting new developers. Good idea. We're up to 6 easy bugs now. Anyone have ideas for more? -Rob Regards, Andrea.
Re: Introducing myself
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Fabrizio Marchesano fmarches...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, this is Fabrizio Marchesano from Genoa, Italy. I'm a consultant developer, always ready to support customers in OpenOffice migration whenever they give me the chance. Hello Fabrizio ! Have you seen our consultants pages? http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultants.html If you want to be listed there as well, please send your details per these instructions: http://www.openoffice.org/bizdev/consultant-submission.html Also, be sure to join our API mailing list. This is where most of the discussion related to OpenOffice extensions occurs: http://openoffice.apache.org/mailing-lists.html#api-mailing-list-public It's a hard task, though: not because of OpenOffice itself, but simply because people fear changes (and IT managers fear users' first reactions). I say “first” reactions because, in my experience, every time I was involved in a migration process, users initially moaned (but only because sometimes falling out of our habit may be burdensome) but changed their mind soon after the development of custom extension which helped them to speed up their daily job. Yes. I think that is key. Although there are some who will migrate to OpenOffice purely because it is free, many companies think of IT as an investment in worker productivity. So the best story is to argue both cost savings and improved productivity. Creating custom extensions to integrate into the customer's business is a good way to do this. Even if I am a long-time OpenOffice user, as a professional developer I began to create tailor-made extensions for customers in quite recent times (2008, and at the beginning through the IBM Lotus Symphony fork for Domino-Notes clients). I'm ready to give my contribution to the community in any way I can, and if you're planning to attend FOSDEM 2013 I'll be glad to meet you in person and discuss about extension development (currently in Java because of my Eclipse background). I personally will not be able to make it to Fosdem, but we will have many project members there, and we will have a table and a dev room. So be sure to stop by the dev room and introduce yourself! Regards, -Rob Best regards, Fabrizio
Re: Help please: Can we get some more easy bugs marked in Bugzilla?
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 09:30:51AM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: There are three API-related task that would be nice to have completed for AOO 4: 121578 - [IDL] Convert old-style services implementing a single interface to new-style https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121578 121582 - [IDL] Unify services and interfaces which are merely an extension https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121582 121606 - Implement multiple inheritance for the ease of API usage https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121606 I added one more: 121607 - Remove deprecated API https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121607 OK. Thanks. Though I must admit that I've never heard the word multiple inheritance and easy used together in the same sentence ;-) I'll push some commits on the weekend showing what this means. In some cases is an almost trivial change; and almost everything can be considered easy with the proper guidance. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpR4xPQoBJaH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Starting Infrastructure Module
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 8:43 PM, Ray r...@prh-inc.com wrote: Yes, and so far amazed at how unorganized it is. Hi Ray -- Traditional, hierarchical organization works in corporations and armies, but not so well in community-led all-volunteer projects like Apache OpenOffice. They key is to have enough organization to get the job done, but not so much that it becomes a burden. If you observe long enough you'll get a feel for how things work here. Does anyone here know when a bug is legit and when it is resolved? When a bug is legit the QA volunteer changes the report from Unconfirmed to Confirmed. When a developer begins working on a fix he or she marks at as Accepted. When the developer has checked in a fix it is marked Resolved/Fixed. When a QA volunteer verifies that the fix is correct then the defect report is closed. If you read the Intro to QA page [1] you will see a link there with more details of the Bug Lifecycle [2]. [1] http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-qa.html [2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Issue_lifecycle So far I have found nothing to help with and have had my mail box bombarded with useless and repetitive jitter from people. Managing your inbox is a key part of volunteering on any Apache project. We do all project communications via email. Most volunteers define rules in their mail client to put all list emails from Apache into a special folder, so they can be reviewed at their leisure, and not interfere with other emails from their day jobs. Some even have a separate email account that they use just for Apache work. Regards, -Rob
level 2
Hi! I've just started to go through level 2. Regards, Anders Kvibäck
Re: Optimum installer (was: Open Office Impress, the free power point)
In actuality, no we don't know that, he might be describing a false positive. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: Following up to myself with more details since we now know where the problem came from: On 09.01.2013 09:07, I wrote: On 09.01.2013 02:36, james quayle wrote: Hey, Just wanted to let you know that your program has a Trojan Horse attached to it. I downloaded your program, so that I could create a Powerpoint for school, and my security software informed me that there was a Trojan Horse attached to the Open Office files. Luckily my system protected my computer and blocked it immediately. So I then had to uninstall the program. It might be a great idea to fix that asap. Have a great day. [...] As Peter wrote it would be interesting where you downloaded the infected version from. Checking your browser's history is the easiest way to find that out. We now know where he downloaded it from. He got it from a place that bundles it with some adware named optimum-installer. In their download page for OpenOffice they are not shy about it and document that: XXX is distributing custom installers which are different from the originally available distribution. These new installers comply with the original software manufacturers’ policies and terms conditions, however, they are not the originals. Optimum Installer is an install manager, which manages the installation of your chosen software. In addition to managing your download and installation, Optimum Installer will offer free popular software that you may be interested in. You are not required to install any additional software to complete your installation of your selected software. You can always completely remove the programs at any time in Windows’ Add/Remove Programs The trojan horse alert of his security software was apparantly triggered by the adware they are bundling that is apparently quite nosy and communicative. http://www.openoffice.org/**download/index.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/index.htmlis the most reliable start for downloading a clean copy of our favorite productivity suite. This cannot be overstated. Please spread the word. Herbert
Re: Optimum installer (was: Open Office Impress, the free power point)
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: In actuality, no we don't know that, he might be describing a false positive. If there is any uncertainty, send me the URL. I have VM's for Windows 2000-8 and can easily test any suspect download sites without risk of contamination. -Rob On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 3:15 AM, Herbert Duerr h...@apache.org wrote: Following up to myself with more details since we now know where the problem came from: On 09.01.2013 09:07, I wrote: On 09.01.2013 02:36, james quayle wrote: Hey, Just wanted to let you know that your program has a Trojan Horse attached to it. I downloaded your program, so that I could create a Powerpoint for school, and my security software informed me that there was a Trojan Horse attached to the Open Office files. Luckily my system protected my computer and blocked it immediately. So I then had to uninstall the program. It might be a great idea to fix that asap. Have a great day. [...] As Peter wrote it would be interesting where you downloaded the infected version from. Checking your browser's history is the easiest way to find that out. We now know where he downloaded it from. He got it from a place that bundles it with some adware named optimum-installer. In their download page for OpenOffice they are not shy about it and document that: XXX is distributing custom installers which are different from the originally available distribution. These new installers comply with the original software manufacturers’ policies and terms conditions, however, they are not the originals. Optimum Installer is an install manager, which manages the installation of your chosen software. In addition to managing your download and installation, Optimum Installer will offer free popular software that you may be interested in. You are not required to install any additional software to complete your installation of your selected software. You can always completely remove the programs at any time in Windows’ Add/Remove Programs The trojan horse alert of his security software was apparantly triggered by the adware they are bundling that is apparently quite nosy and communicative. http://www.openoffice.org/**download/index.htmlhttp://www.openoffice.org/download/index.htmlis the most reliable start for downloading a clean copy of our favorite productivity suite. This cannot be overstated. Please spread the word. Herbert
Multiple Inheritance Is Easy! (Re: Help please: Can we get some more easy bugs marked in Bugzilla?
On 10.01.2013 15:30, Rob Weir wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:06 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: Hi Rob, * On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 11:25:28AM -0500, Rob Weir wrote: Looking right now and I only see three: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?f1=cf_fix_difficultylist_id=41193o1=equalsresolution=---query_format=advancedv1=easy I'd like to start a call for dev volunteers in the next few weeks. I assume it will take them a few days to get their builds up and running. But after that they will be looking for tasks to work on. We agreed to use the difficulty field in Bugzilla for this, to indicate which bugs are most suitable for new volunteers. So I need your help to get a bunch of issues that are suitable for new volunteers. Ideally we'd have 30 or more classified as easy. Note: these do not need to be bugs. We can have enhancements that are easy. Even cleanup work. So feel free to enter new tasks, with the difficulty field set, so we have something to point new volunteers to. There are three API-related task that would be nice to have completed for AOO 4: 121578 - [IDL] Convert old-style services implementing a single interface to new-style https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121578 121582 - [IDL] Unify services and interfaces which are merely an extension https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121582 121606 - Implement multiple inheritance for the ease of API usage https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121606 OK. Thanks. Though I must admit that I've never heard the word multiple inheritance and easy used together in the same sentence ;-) Actually, multiple inheritance *is easy*! :-) About 15 years ago, when I read about all the difficulties professional programmers were supposed to have understanding and applying multiple inheritance (which also led the Java designers to omit it, although C++ would have allowed for it) I could not believe it. When researching some examples that were supposed to demonstrate how multiple inheritance could ease solving certain kind of problems, I could understand better: the examples used to be so complicated that one had difficulties to understand the problems at hand and as a result it was almost un-understandable what and why the multiple inheritance solution would be dubbed to be easy. Then, just as a little experiment, I tried to test non-professional programmers (end-user programmers, i.e. business adminstration students who were interested in information systems as well) whether it was possible for them to understand the concept of multiple inheritance and applying it with the means some programming languages had on board (using a programming language that was easy to learn from its syntax, but supported multiple inheritance too). It turned out in the end that it made a big difference with what examples/problems one would approach them. If the example/problem was easy to understand, then the concept of multiple inheritance was easy for them and they could assess the programmatic means available to them and apply them successfully! Ever since then, I have been teaching multiple inheritance successfully to non-professional programmers! So in the light of professional programmers in the context of a truly object-oriented system like AOO, it should indeed be easy to apply multiple inheritance to problem domains which are rooted in multiple inheritance problems in the first place! 8-) ---rony
Re: Adapt the naming of our project deliverables - OpenOffice.org -- Apache OpenOffice
On 10.01.2013 15:56, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 10.01.2013 11:55, Rony G. Flatscher wrote: Hi Oliver-Rainer, On 10.01.2013 11:23, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: I have finished the renaming from OpenOffice.org to Apache OpenOffice - see issue 121388. Beside corresponding changes in the user interface this change has impact on the following important and critical stuff: - folder/directory names - package names - Windows registry key names and values - ... As the folder/directory path to the user profile is also changed, the user profile of a former installed AOO (or OOo) version is not taken over. for installation script purposes of add-ons etc., where can one find the concrete strings for folder/directory names on the various operating system platforms and the Windows registry key names and values? Unfortunately, there is no single place in the source code. I also had not the resources to clean this up during the renaming work - hint, hint, hint :-) Please have a look at issue 121388, the wiki page referenced in one of the issue's comments and the intrinsic changes I have made. The product installation folder is more or less a form of the $PRODUCTNAME + [major version number]. E.g.: - Windows: Apache OpenOffice 3 - Linux: apache_openoffice3 On Linux platforms we have also the basis installation folder. It name is found in /main/instsetoo_native/util/openoffice.lst The user profile folder is more or less $PRODUCTNAME/[major version number]/ The Windows registry keys and values can be found in module main/scp2/ I hope that helps a little bit. Thank you very much Oliver, that definitely helps already! Though because of your hints to modules, what would be the best tool to locate them in your version of AOO via the Internet to learn about the concrete strings for the Linux basis installation folder, the profile folder, and especially the Windows registry keys and values? Best regards, ---rony
Re: [RELEASE]: AOO 3.4.1 respin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 1/10/13 1:38 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 10:56:46AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I will start the build of the first official AOO 3.4.1 respin snapshot today based on revision 1424891 on the AOO34 branch. The new supported languages are ast, da, eu, gd, pl, ko, nb, sv. I will built a new updated source release, including the translation updates. The only further change is in the scripts for building the source release where I include the revision number. @Ariel: can you please start the build for Linux as well? Linux packages are available at http://people.apache.org/~arielch/packages/respin_aoo341 The first snapshot build is now available and you can find the bits under https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOO3.4.1.respin Please let me know if there is problem with the links. If possilbe I would like to move the release date to Jan 24th. I will be on a business trip for the rest of Jan. starting on 26th and have not really time to handle it at this time. Juergen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.17 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org Comment: Using GnuPG with undefined - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJQ7u/CAAoJEM/u8xZRtf3oZmoP/RlvumjAlnvPCCU3EdtH0ocj bhSMlS5RUIs2xdGa/eBdwqhJwVDQQlS4DpHyPJzs6TK7ARCLIl6dQCGZtmfczoHI d/q118bhyB1BWzskvZe+WwhtOHavBW2JQ9idpWYm6Ve62dWg/ryiYojk8Rs19QeG ymGXIJzKia7VoYzg2NVNNDYguMb/lXK4TF8iEm4gGoU+218rc8xmh0lnnokcVUof C5C8Cmud2lRMcxQ6Bi+Ha8SAGQ70wpz7giUCpXFom2Hbs6USgz7wdsB1rxTYdcny dCdnC4OU51H4NGCVAM1mBVm9lvRz5vsX3Pw6hiBTN3GBZTbyf4JVGS3Nx2ESp+Zb Wr3uZe8AIDjY+Zb8ABlw9z9jkct8KioYD0aPa/NlW9scsVaZ0OYwJmcsRNShVGa5 l4xQNWuHFMp+ahKqY6/RFZRIYNI8eKXafA23wZw16idSYq/oqd5XVn3alv4UGiD0 9W01bDZiBnUWpP/XSLb5d57FaPEJxAuKKtWWG8TejxRrGlZ5tsOTcw059GQUh6e8 DQte1omg2nduKN+B358qcAQFemv7PNFP3z2lSUoSCrj9sLK/dpENGNwubFQjXUBn 6mJISuW7j9CZNHbNCx8oOndqCELWVa4vGT233IUxK+C5d+zxJjyMlqhJq6ZuF6OG B7xQFAyKORgqvJX+gqhv =u2dC -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Symphony code in AOO 4.0
I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects, saying that the IBM donation to AOO is pure marketing fluff and IBM faked the donation of the Symphony code and IBM did not donate anything. I can certainly sympathize with leaders of communities that can only be held together by irrational fears. It is not easy to maintain that peak level of paranoia. You may count me old-fashioned, but I have a bit of nostalgia for the old days where we simply told the truth. Anyone who cares to look can see that we've actually integrated quite a but of Symphony code into the AOO trunk already. For example, the following 167 bug fixes, from Symphony, are fixed in the trunk. This is in addition to the larger pieces that will be merged in branches first. There are many more fixes where those came from, and anyone is welcome to help merge or test them. Regards, -Rob ID Summary 121126 [From Symphony]User-definded format code is lost with a cell which value is TRUE or FALSE when importing xls file 121073 [From Symphony]Loading performance for xls file with row banded style is bad 121058 [From Symphony]To open a sample file contains chart with large data source can lead to AOO crash 121001 [From Symphony]Macro doesn't work if click Undo button 120962 [From Symphony]Chart data lost if the source data refers to a range name which is defined as a reference formula 120885 [From Symphony]Sample file's table border is missing 120881 [From Symphony]Page number in footer display incorrectly 120864 [From Symphony]Text is overlapped by the drawing object when open the .doc file 120848 [From Symphony]Fit shape to text property not work after openning ppt by AOO 120839 [From Symphony]It costs too much memory to open a large spreadsheet file containing pivot tables 120773 [From Symphony] Numbering will lose when saving or opening a ppt file 120769 [From Symphony]Color of underline display wrongly 120764 [From Symphony] Grid size for snake wipe transition too fine 120759 [From Symphony]Bookmark value changed when opening the doc file 120750 [From Symphony] Repeat count of animations ignored. 120749 [From Symphony] Fill color animations run too fast 120730 [From Symphony] Table changes to multiple shapes after saved in AOO 120718 [From Symphony]after save the sample file with page border and shadow to doc, the shadow depth and color changed 120717 [From Symphony]The graphic's spacing is not correct when open the .doc file 120716 [From Symphony]The graphic's border size and spacing is not correct when open the .doc file 120684 [From Symphony] Animation color is not exported correctly to PPT. 120654 [From Symphony]Number range variable filed shows in AOO 120582 [From Symphony] import of Microsoft Word document: indent of certain paragraphs in list is wrong 120578 [From Symphony]the text properties from table style are lost for table in the docx file 120576 [From Symphony]the background color from table style are lost for table in the docx file 120573 [From Symphony]Page number in footer alignment changed after saved 120554 [From Symphony]Shape Gradient MS2003 import/export Enhancement 120437 [From Symphony]Connector line does not shown correctly in grouped object 120233 [From Symphony] characters at the beginning of each lines in shape are lost when loading the sample ppt in AOO 120230 [From Symphony] disable antialiased lines for background hatches 120224 [From Symphony]Cell text direction changed after saved as doc file 120165 [From Symphony]Impress crashed when play screen show with sample file 120158 [From Symphony]Time format is different than MS Office 120143 [From Symphony]the text in textbox display paritially when opening .ppt file 120140 [From Symphony]After doc file saved by AOO, one more section is created 120133 [From Symphony]Doc file saved by AOO, section size changed 120051 [From Symphony]the text in the table turn to black from white when opening the pptx file 120039 [From Symphony]the background of the file create from template 'blue_floral.otp' changed after save as the ppt or pot file 120017 [From Symphony]Filter is not shown in merged cell 11 [From Symphony]Need press ESC key twice to exist chart edit mode 119994 [From Symphony]Cannot modify the second document even if close range picker in first document 119989 [From Symphony]Pie chart height becomes greater when open Excel file 119974 [From Symphony]Ellipse shape display too large in MS office after save odp file to ppt format file 119972 [From Symphony]Formula GETPIVOTDATA returns #REF! value 119966 [From Symphony] The Emphasis or Exit or Motion Path effect can not play if there is an Entrance effect after it. 119965 [From Symphony] Picture missing when saving ODP file 119964 [From Symphony]Number displays different from MS with the same format code 119963 [From Symphony]TOC should not be updated if load doc in Writer 119962 [From Symphony]Placeholder in ppt file created by MS 2007 is lost if
Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects, saying that the IBM donation to AOO is pure marketing fluff and IBM faked the donation of the Symphony code and IBM did not donate anything. Did they explain how one fakes a donation to ASF? I assume he is confusing two different things: 1) The donation of Symphony, which was done via an SGA (Software Grant Agreement). This occurred last year. This was recorded by the ASF Secretary and the PMC was notified when this occurred. So there should be no doubts here. Symphony was donated to the ASF. 2) Publication of Symphony as a code base via an ASF release. After discussion the PMC decided not to go down that path. The preference was to do a slower merge of Symphony enhancements rather than to rebase AOO on Symphony. If we had done the rebase path this would have required additional work from the project, including IP Clearance, modifying file headers, etc. Maybe the belief was that the slow merge was not for real? It certainly is not very flashy. The fixes are very practical, mundane things, the nuts and bolts of what users most care about, interoperability, stability, etc. So we have not boasted loudly about these improvements. But maybe it is worth a blog post? -Rob Don
Re: [IMPORTANT, DISCUSS]: no migration/use of former user profile with AOO 4.0
Le 10/01/2013 13:57, Rob Weir a écrit : If we have not figured out exactly what causes the current OOo 3.3.0 - AOO 3.4.x profile migration problems, how are we certain that these problems will not come back when we migrate AOO 4.0 to AOO 4.1 ??? +1. Even a brand new install leads to profile corruption rather quickly (especially under XP). I remember that in older versions, there were several configuration files (.xcu). They have been merged into a single registrymodifications.xcu. Was it really a good idea? With only one file with all the settings, it's difficult to track the faulty one. At least with several files you can guess the area they are linked to (like linguistic.xcu) and reset them one by one to track the bugged one. Hagar
No Accessibility API support with the Java SE 7 Accessibility API, problem with JAB 2.0.3 and passing event focus
Have an open, but unconfirmed, bug against Apache OpenOffice 3.4.1 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121510 Can confirm it, but unable to edit the Bugzilla status. Also, I just verified it remains an issue with the 4.0 Developer builds, r1400866 Probably related to Oracle's work on: http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=7166956 Impact is that Apache OpenOffice users must continue to use a Java SE 6 JRE and JAB v2.0.2 to have any usable Assistive Technology support. With Java SE 6 public support ending, this likely will become an issue until the IBM Symphony \winaccessibility contribution can be integrated.
Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know which one that would be I'm sure, and I drafted but then did not send a reply to it. I ask because I did not see that go any further then the ml, but that doesn't mean that it didn't. I learned about these claims via email, but not from the TDF mailing list. But I would not be surprised if it originated there. In any case, when a TDF Director and Marketing Lead makes such claims, it carries some weight, and if utterly false the claims should be rebutted. IMHO. -Rob Thanks Drew On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:35:16 -0500 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Donald Whytock dwhyt...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects, saying that the IBM donation to AOO is pure marketing fluff and IBM faked the donation of the Symphony code and IBM did not donate anything. Did they explain how one fakes a donation to ASF? I assume he is confusing two different things: 1) The donation of Symphony, which was done via an SGA (Software Grant Agreement). This occurred last year. This was recorded by the ASF Secretary and the PMC was notified when this occurred. So there should be no doubts here. Symphony was donated to the ASF. 2) Publication of Symphony as a code base via an ASF release. After discussion the PMC decided not to go down that path. The preference was to do a slower merge of Symphony enhancements rather than to rebase AOO on Symphony. If we had done the rebase path this would have required additional work from the project, including IP Clearance, modifying file headers, etc. Maybe the belief was that the slow merge was not for real? It certainly is not very flashy. The fixes are very practical, mundane things, the nuts and bolts of what users most care about, interoperability, stability, etc. So we have not boasted loudly about these improvements. But maybe it is worth a blog post? Certainly worth a blog (and elsewhere) mention that forthcoming AOO 4.0 will incorporate many features and fixes from IBM Symphony code donation; this process will continue throughout further AOO releases or words to that effect. Would it be premature to mention timescale for AOO 4.0 release? -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie
Re: [WEBSITE] broken link on mac porting page
Am 01/10/2013 10:59 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/08/2013 09:37 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 07/01/2013 Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 01/07/2013 09:54 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/ So I'd recommend either keeping the page and updating it. Or replacing it with a page that says that the Mac port is now full integrated with our releases and then link to the download page. Or put in a 401 redirect from that URL to the download page. ... OK, then I prefer to use a redirect to the download area. Sounds good. Actually, we can redirect everything under http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/ to the homepage, since links on the old page include support, screenshots, downloads... all resources directly available from the project homepage. Then I would like to volunteer to try this on Sunday. Hi Marcus, I took a closer look at the data and I have some concerns from an SEO perspective. We get a large number of visits from users who query Google for terms like: openoffice for mac open office mac openoffice mac free office for mac download openoffice for mac Try these queries in your browser. See the porting page is the number one hit. For me the 2nd hit is CNet and then we start hitting malware sites. We don't get another openoffice.org web page until position #10 in the search results. If we redirect to the home page, which does not mention Mac anywhere, then the next time Google updates its index it will see that as the contents of /porting/mac and judge it to be far less relevant to queries like openoffice for mac. Does it help to leave some keywords on the /porting/mac/index.html? The the Google indexing bot recognize it, redirects then to the new webpage and we keep the search hits. So I think we should consider this carefully. Of course. Is there anything actually wrong with the /porting/mac page as it is? Ahm, besides totally outdated and no longer needed data not. ;-) When I look around there is nearly nothing that should be kept (links, screenshots, X11 -- Aqua, release news about older versions, FAQs). Here's an alternative idea. If the issue is that this is no longer a porting project, then maybe we could do something like this: 1) Create a new landing page for users interested in OpenOffice for Mac. Maybe it is at http://www.openoffice.org/mac. Maybe it is based on whatever is relevant still from /porting/mac. It doesn't need tons of content, but enough to be relevant. 2) Redirect /porting/mac/* to /mac/index.html 3) Delete the old /porting/mac Why does a Google search behave different here? Sorry, I don't see the difference to just redirect. PS: I want to get rid of the old content but of course not loose the Google search hits. Marcus
Re: Completed Infrastructure Module
Thanks for the update Olga! This is good progress! We're happy you can join us. On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Olga Plyasunova oplyasun...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I just want to inform you that I completed Level 2. Olga -- MzK No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. -- Aesop
Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0
Am 01/10/2013 11:11 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: Hello; - Messaggio originale - Da: Rob Weir On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: Rob, Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know which one that would be I'm sure, and I drafted but then did not send a reply to it. I ask because I did not see that go any further then the ml, but that doesn't mean that it didn't. I learned about these claims via email, but not from the TDF mailing list. But I would not be surprised if it originated there. In any case, when a TDF Director and Marketing Lead makes such claims, it carries some weight, and if utterly false the claims should be rebutted. IMHO. The TDF director and Marketing Lead does no development and doesn't really have any idea what is going on here. Why is that surprising or why should we blog about it? It looks to me like he just wants to bring some attention to his project. Pedro. Because it's not a relatively small part but the Symphony code will (IMHO) play a bigger role in coming AOO releases, e.g., improvements in the UI and accessibility. So, I think in this case an exception from the usual way would be appropriate. My 2 ct. Marcus
Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0
Hello Marcus; - Messaggio originale - Da: Marcus (OOo) I learned about these claims via email, but not from the TDF mailing list. But I would not be surprised if it originated there. In any case, when a TDF Director and Marketing Lead makes such claims, it carries some weight, and if utterly false the claims should be rebutted. IMHO. The TDF director and Marketing Lead does no development and doesn't really have any idea what is going on here. Why is that surprising or why should we blog about it? It looks to me like he just wants to bring some attention to his project. Pedro. Because it's not a relatively small part but the Symphony code will (IMHO) play a bigger role in coming AOO releases, e.g., improvements in the UI and accessibility. The code is in the tree, we have Wikis describing the changes and we have people working on them. I don't think we gain anything by getting drawn into a communication war about this. Let's wait until 4.0 takes shape. So, I think in this case an exception from the usual way would be appropriate. Me wonders what is the usual way ;-). Pedro.
Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: Hello; - Messaggio originale - Da: Rob Weir On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: Rob, Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know which one that would be I'm sure, and I drafted but then did not send a reply to it. I ask because I did not see that go any further then the ml, but that doesn't mean that it didn't. I learned about these claims via email, but not from the TDF mailing list. But I would not be surprised if it originated there. In any case, when a TDF Director and Marketing Lead makes such claims, it carries some weight, and if utterly false the claims should be rebutted. IMHO. The TDF director and Marketing Lead does no development and doesn't really have any idea what is going on here. Why is that surprising or why should we blog about it? It looks to me like he just wants to bring some attention to his project. Pedro. I think we're back to please don't feed the trolls on this one. No blog or additional attention necessary. It seems this may be isolated to a single individual. Anyone can review the commit logs. -- MzK No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted. -- Aesop
Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0
Am 01/10/2013 11:40 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: Hello Marcus; - Messaggio originale - Da: Marcus (OOo) I learned about these claims via email, but not from the TDF mailing list. But I would not be surprised if it originated there. In any case, when a TDF Director and Marketing Lead makes such claims, it carries some weight, and if utterly false the claims should be rebutted. IMHO. The TDF director and Marketing Lead does no development and doesn't really have any idea what is going on here. Why is that surprising or why should we blog about it? It looks to me like he just wants to bring some attention to his project. Pedro. Because it's not a relatively small part but the Symphony code will (IMHO) play a bigger role in coming AOO releases, e.g., improvements in the UI and accessibility. The code is in the tree, we have Wikis describing the changes and we have people working on them. I don't think we gain anything by getting drawn into a communication war about this. Let's wait until 4.0 takes shape. So, I think in this case an exception from the usual way would be appropriate. Maybe, it was just a thought why it would be good this time. Me wonders what is the usual way ;-). Kay has described it perfectly. ;-) Marcus
Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0
Am 01/11/2013 12:03 AM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:53:40 +0100 Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/10/2013 11:40 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: Hello Marcus; - Messaggio originale - Da: Marcus (OOo) I learned about these claims via email, but not from the TDF mailing list. But I would not be surprised if it originated there. In any case, when a TDF Director and Marketing Lead makes such claims, it carries some weight, and if utterly false the claims should be rebutted. IMHO. The TDF director and Marketing Lead does no development and doesn't really have any idea what is going on here. Why is that surprising or why should we blog about it? It looks to me like he just wants to bring some attention to his project. Pedro. Because it's not a relatively small part but the Symphony code will (IMHO) play a bigger role in coming AOO releases, e.g., improvements in the UI and accessibility. The code is in the tree, we have Wikis describing the changes and we have people working on them. I don't think we gain anything by getting drawn into a communication war about this. Let's wait until 4.0 takes shape. So, I think in this case an exception from the usual way would be appropriate. Maybe, it was just a thought why it would be good this time. Me wonders what is the usual way ;-). Kay has described it perfectly. ;-) Marcus I would suggest merely an informative blog, not in reply to anyone, a blog telling of what was happening in the AOO world and what work was currently under way. Of couse things are mapped out on the mailing lists, but the world of AOO users is far wider than those and they deserve to be kept informed. Sure, I don't thought about a direct reply but as you suggested to write in general. Marcus
Re: [WEBSITE] broken link on mac porting page
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:18 PM, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/10/2013 10:59 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 4:36 PM, Marcus (OOo)marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote: Am 01/08/2013 09:37 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: On 07/01/2013 Marcus (OOo) wrote: Am 01/07/2013 09:54 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/ So I'd recommend either keeping the page and updating it. Or replacing it with a page that says that the Mac port is now full integrated with our releases and then link to the download page. Or put in a 401 redirect from that URL to the download page. ... OK, then I prefer to use a redirect to the download area. Sounds good. Actually, we can redirect everything under http://www.openoffice.org/porting/mac/ to the homepage, since links on the old page include support, screenshots, downloads... all resources directly available from the project homepage. Then I would like to volunteer to try this on Sunday. Hi Marcus, I took a closer look at the data and I have some concerns from an SEO perspective. We get a large number of visits from users who query Google for terms like: openoffice for mac open office mac openoffice mac free office for mac download openoffice for mac Try these queries in your browser. See the porting page is the number one hit. For me the 2nd hit is CNet and then we start hitting malware sites. We don't get another openoffice.org web page until position #10 in the search results. If we redirect to the home page, which does not mention Mac anywhere, then the next time Google updates its index it will see that as the contents of /porting/mac and judge it to be far less relevant to queries like openoffice for mac. Does it help to leave some keywords on the /porting/mac/index.html? The the Google indexing bot recognize it, redirects then to the new webpage and we keep the search hits. If you do a redirect at the HTTP level then Google won't ever see the contents of the /porting/mac pages. It will only see the destination page's contents. You could possibly do a meta http-equiv=refresh style redirect from within the browser, but that can be a bad user experience. So I think we should consider this carefully. Of course. Is there anything actually wrong with the /porting/mac page as it is? Ahm, besides totally outdated and no longer needed data not. ;-) When I look around there is nearly nothing that should be kept (links, screenshots, X11 -- Aqua, release news about older versions, FAQs). OK. I am not a Mac person. Is there anything useful we could say about OpenOffice on the Mac? Any FAQ's? Any useful instructions? Here's an alternative idea. If the issue is that this is no longer a porting project, then maybe we could do something like this: 1) Create a new landing page for users interested in OpenOffice for Mac. Maybe it is at http://www.openoffice.org/mac. Maybe it is based on whatever is relevant still from /porting/mac. It doesn't need tons of content, but enough to be relevant. 2) Redirect /porting/mac/* to /mac/index.html 3) Delete the old /porting/mac Why does a Google search behave different here? Sorry, I don't see the difference to just redirect. The redirect would work the same way. The difference is in the contents of the landing page. If we redirect to the home page, or the download page, there is almost no discussion about Mac OpenOffice. The old page, even if the content is out-of-date, is still seen as relevant. PS: I want to get rid of the old content but of course not loose the Google search hits. Me too ;-) -Rob Marcus
Re: Introduction and Question
On 01/09/2013 05:04 PM, Jonathan Simona wrote: Hello everyone, my name is Jonathan Simona and I currently am attending the university: Cal Poly Pomona in California as a Computer Science major. Currently, I am taking a class on Software Engineering, in which we are required to join an open source project and submit two non-trivial modifications or additions such as bug fixes or adding a feature over the next two months. Even though I have decent knowledge about programming, I actually have no experience in fixing bugs nor the knowledge of how to go in and submit patches that will fix/modify bugs/features on open source projects. Since this community seemed very friendly towards new users, I was wondering if someone would be willing to show me the ropes and possibly point out two novice-like, yet still non trivial, things I could possibly work on. I thank everyone for their time in reading this email and to anyone who is willing to reply. I am surprised that there have been no answers. As a first step, I recommend that you download the code and build it. Are you able to do that? After you can build AOO, next, pick an area of interest for you. and then perhaps look at the bug tracking system. Sign up here: http://www.openoffice.org/qa/ooQAReloaded/ooQA-ReportBugs.html Poking around a bug like this might be informative, but it might be tricky to find. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=97539 This might be easier to find as a starter bug https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121509 -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php
Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0
Rob Weir wrote: I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects ... I can certainly sympathize with leaders of communities that can only be held together by irrational fears. It is not easy to maintain that peak level of paranoia. Your personal opinions on the people involved (I admit I have very little context, I only had the time to read the discussion here but nothing else so far) are best kept separated from the important fact, that is that apparently incorrect information is being circulated about the benefits that the Symphony donation is bringing to OpenOffice and to the free/open-source software world in general. Anyone who cares to look can see that we've actually integrated quite a but of Symphony code into the AOO trunk already. For example, the following 167 bug fixes People don't care to look, unfortunately... But I definitely agree that this listing is impressive, as it is this page: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Fidelity_Improvement_Since_AOO341 If you manage to co-author a blog post with Shenfeng Liu (or someone else from the former Symphony team) about the integrated fixes/features, this will be an important service to the OpenOffice users. But please, let's do it because it's important in itself and because it's clearly overdue (aside from a brief mention in the top 10 questions posts), not because someone feels the need to address some particular wrong or misleading claim. Regards, Andrea.
Re: Introduction and Question
Hello Jonathan, On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 02:04:22PM -0800, Jonathan Simona wrote: Hello everyone, my name is Jonathan Simona and I currently am attending the university: Cal Poly Pomona in California as a Computer Science major. Currently, I am taking a class on Software Engineering, in which we are required to join an open source project and submit two non-trivial modifications or additions such as bug fixes or adding a feature over the next two months. Even though I have decent knowledge about programming, I actually have no experience in fixing bugs nor the knowledge of how to go in and submit patches that will fix/modify bugs/features on open source projects. Since this community seemed very friendly towards new users, I was wondering if someone would be willing to show me the ropes and possibly point out two novice-like, yet still non trivial, things I could possibly work on. I thank everyone for their time in reading this email and to anyone who is willing to reply. As Andrew told you, the first step is to checkout the source from trunk, and try to get your first build. You can find information on the Building Guide: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO I'd recommend you use git-svn instead of subversion. Also get a disk with enough space: the source tree is ca. 2.6 Gb, and it grows up to ca. 15 Gb in a non-pro build with symbols. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina pgpvH1oEmThdd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Drew Jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.orgwrote: People don't care to look, unfortunately... But I definitely agree that this listing is impressive, as it is this page: http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Documentation/Fidelity_** Improvement_Since_AOO341http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Fidelity_Improvement_Since_AOO341 Thanks so much, I was looking for just such a page the other day and missed that. That same page was linked to in the blog post we posted from last week. -Rob
Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Rob Weir wrote: I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects ... I can certainly sympathize with leaders of communities that can only be held together by irrational fears. It is not easy to maintain that peak level of paranoia. Your personal opinions on the people involved (I admit I have very little context, I only had the time to read the discussion here but nothing else so far) are best kept separated from the important fact, that is that apparently incorrect information is being circulated about the benefits that the Symphony donation is bringing to OpenOffice and to the free/open-source software world in general. Anyone who cares to look can see that we've actually integrated quite a but of Symphony code into the AOO trunk already. For example, the following 167 bug fixes People don't care to look, unfortunately... But I definitely agree that this listing is impressive, as it is this page: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Fidelity_Improvement_Since_AOO341 If you manage to co-author a blog post with Shenfeng Liu (or someone else from the former Symphony team) about the integrated fixes/features, this will be an important service to the OpenOffice users. But please, let's do it because it's important in itself and because it's clearly overdue (aside from a brief mention in the top 10 questions posts), not because someone feels the need to address some particular wrong or misleading claim. Clarifying the facts where misinformation is being spread is part of the necessary communications that any project needs to engage in. We saw that as a podling, when the ASF itself addressed misinformation regarding this project. Now this is our responsibility. Of course, misinformation about insubstantial matters is best ignored. But where misinformation is propagated about substantial project operations, then that is sufficient motivation for the contents and timing of a post to correct such misinformation. In any case, pointing out the lie on this list already gives 90% of the benefit, since such FUD cannot survive the light of day. A blog post is unnecessary. -Rob Regards, Andrea.
Fwd: Testing
Hi Anetha, I'm forwarding your note to our QA mailing list, where our testing team hangs out. You'll want to subscribe to that list by sending an email to : qa-subscr...@openoffice.apache.org I'd also encourage you to read over the following note which describes some good things for new QA volunteers to do to get started: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-qa/201301.mbox/%3CCAP-ksogs-F_cWgM-FXV-0x0T2ev%3Dc9ExwC1Saxgb%2B8OidOVEQw%40mail.gmail.com%3E Let me know if you have any questions. Welcome aboard! -Rob -- Forwarded message -- From: Anetha Raj anethasund...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:56 PM Subject: Testing To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Hi Dev Apache I am really happy to jump into the testing and join hands with you for the same My name is Anetha and interested in Mac os app, manual testing . Writing test cases also. Look forward to hear from you. Thanks S.Anetha
build sw
Hi, I couldn't complete sw building in partial build, when I input the commands ,I got the messages as follow: === build -- version: 275224 This module has been migrated to GNU make. You can only use build --all/--since here with build.pl. To do the equivalent of 'build deliver' call: make -sr in the module root (This will modify the solver). = I don't how to deal with this problems. there are the commands I input in cygwin: 1.cd main 2.source winenv.Set.sh 3.cd sw 4.build --from sw --prepare 5.build debug=true --from sw
Re: Introduction and Question
Thanks so much for the replies! Unfortunately I do not know how to build and run AOO and can't seem to find out because the wiki link seems to be down.I'm not sure if this problem is only occuring for me, but I will attempt to build when wiki comes back up. Wiki's error message: A database error has occurred. Did you forget to run maintenance/update.php after upgrading? See: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script Query: SELECT page_id,page_len,page_is_redirect,page_latest FROM `page` WHERE page_namespace = '10' AND page_title = 'Extension_DPL' LIMIT 1 Function: LinkCache::addLinkObj Error: 1286 Unknown table engine 'InnoDB' (localhost) On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote: Hello Jonathan, On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 02:04:22PM -0800, Jonathan Simona wrote: Hello everyone, my name is Jonathan Simona and I currently am attending the university: Cal Poly Pomona in California as a Computer Science major. Currently, I am taking a class on Software Engineering, in which we are required to join an open source project and submit two non-trivial modifications or additions such as bug fixes or adding a feature over the next two months. Even though I have decent knowledge about programming, I actually have no experience in fixing bugs nor the knowledge of how to go in and submit patches that will fix/modify bugs/features on open source projects. Since this community seemed very friendly towards new users, I was wondering if someone would be willing to show me the ropes and possibly point out two novice-like, yet still non trivial, things I could possibly work on. I thank everyone for their time in reading this email and to anyone who is willing to reply. As Andrew told you, the first step is to checkout the source from trunk, and try to get your first build. You can find information on the Building Guide: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO I'd recommend you use git-svn instead of subversion. Also get a disk with enough space: the source tree is ca. 2.6 Gb, and it grows up to ca. 15 Gb in a non-pro build with symbols. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina
Re: Introduction and Question
On 1/11/13, Jonathan Simona jssimona2...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks so much for the replies! Unfortunately I do not know how to build and run AOO and can't seem to find out because the wiki link seems to be down.I'm not sure if this problem is only occuring for me, but I will attempt to build when wiki comes back up. While you do that, you can download the source: http://openoffice.apache.org/source.html Wiki's error message: A database error has occurred. Did you forget to run maintenance/update.php after upgrading? See: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Upgrading#Run_the_update_script Query: SELECT page_id,page_len,page_is_redirect,page_latest FROM `page` WHERE page_namespace = '10' AND page_title = 'Extension_DPL' LIMIT 1 Function: LinkCache::addLinkObj Error: 1286 Unknown table engine 'InnoDB' (localhost) On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.orgwrote: Hello Jonathan, On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 02:04:22PM -0800, Jonathan Simona wrote: Hello everyone, my name is Jonathan Simona and I currently am attending the university: Cal Poly Pomona in California as a Computer Science major. Currently, I am taking a class on Software Engineering, in which we are required to join an open source project and submit two non-trivial modifications or additions such as bug fixes or adding a feature over the next two months. Even though I have decent knowledge about programming, I actually have no experience in fixing bugs nor the knowledge of how to go in and submit patches that will fix/modify bugs/features on open source projects. Since this community seemed very friendly towards new users, I was wondering if someone would be willing to show me the ropes and possibly point out two novice-like, yet still non trivial, things I could possibly work on. I thank everyone for their time in reading this email and to anyone who is willing to reply. As Andrew told you, the first step is to checkout the source from trunk, and try to get your first build. You can find information on the Building Guide: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO I'd recommend you use git-svn instead of subversion. Also get a disk with enough space: the source tree is ca. 2.6 Gb, and it grows up to ca. 15 Gb in a non-pro build with symbols. Regards -- Ariel Constenla-Haile La Plata, Argentina -- Alexandro Colorado PPMC Apache OpenOffice http://es.openoffice.org
Re: build sw
Well, I guess you misunderstand something. you said that you executed build --from SW, means you want to just build the module SW right? The there may exist 2 issues: 1. Before the partial build could be executed as you wished, the full build has to be finished at least once. Otherwise the dependent libraries and include files wont be the places they should be; For executing the full build, just execute dmake -P4 in your step 3 (in the path where you execute step 2); 2. Such build from parameter is used for executing a partial/full build from the module you indicated and all the modules depend on said module. Commonly such execution way is only available in the installation package module named instsetoo_native; Inside the SW module package, execute the following one instead: make -sr debug=true -j4; Hope this could solve your problems. 2013/1/11 2 laoyi...@126.com Hi, I couldn't complete sw building in partial build, when I input the commands ,I got the messages as follow: === build -- version: 275224 This module has been migrated to GNU make. You can only use build --all/--since here with build.pl. To do the equivalent of 'build deliver' call: make -sr in the module root (This will modify the solver). = I don't how to deal with this problems. there are the commands I input in cygwin: 1.cd main 2.source winenv.Set.sh 3.cd sw 4.build --from sw --prepare 5.build debug=true --from sw
