Re: DConf 2015 has ended. See you in Berlin at DConf 2016!

2015-06-01 Thread extrawurst via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 1 June 2015 at 12:39:13 UTC, Dicebot wrote:

On Monday, 1 June 2015 at 12:00:53 UTC, extrawurst wrote:
Thanks for the chance to be there! Even if I am dissapointed 
with many decisions being made, the main thing is that D is 
getting new users and new success stories. And DConf tells 
those stories :)


Out of curiosity, what decisions are you talking about ?


I think these are most unpleasant ones for me:

- Same hypocrite attitude to language/stdlib breaking changes 
that neither allows to fix it nor gives stability guarantees.


- Going for kitchen sink Phobos (and distributing vibe.d as 
part of Phobos)


- Moving fibers between threads (though there is some hope that 
Liran managed to convince Walter it is a bad idea)


On the other hand, AST macros have been officially rejected and 
that I like a lot :)


To miss on this kind of grapevine when not attending dconf is the 
most annoying part...


I whish more of the attendees would write this stuff down 
somewhere for us others ;) (looking at Adam and hoping for the 
next issue of TWID)


Re: DConf 2015 has ended. See you in Berlin at DConf 2016!

2015-06-01 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 1 June 2015 at 12:44:38 UTC, extrawurst wrote:
I whish more of the attendees would write this stuff down 
somewhere for us others ;) (looking at Adam and hoping for the 
next issue of TWID)


I have about 600 lines of notes to finish wading through and 
since I'm still in Utah making the rounds of visits I'm a bit 
behind but you should expect it later today...


Re: DConf 2015 has ended. See you in Berlin at DConf 2016!

2015-06-01 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 1 June 2015 at 12:00:53 UTC, extrawurst wrote:
Thanks for the chance to be there! Even if I am dissapointed 
with many decisions being made, the main thing is that D is 
getting new users and new success stories. And DConf tells 
those stories :)


Out of curiosity, what decisions are you talking about ?


I think these are most unpleasant ones for me:

- Same hypocrite attitude to language/stdlib breaking changes 
that neither allows to fix it nor gives stability guarantees.


- Going for kitchen sink Phobos (and distributing vibe.d as part 
of Phobos)


- Moving fibers between threads (though there is some hope that 
Liran managed to convince Walter it is a bad idea)


On the other hand, AST macros have been officially rejected and 
that I like a lot :)


Re: DConf 2015 has ended. See you in Berlin at DConf 2016!

2015-06-01 Thread Dejan Lekic via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Friday, 29 May 2015 at 23:42:00 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
DConf 2015 has been awesome, I'm taking a minute to post this 
that's been announced a short while ago.


We're pleased to announce that DConf 2016 will take place in 
Berlin, sponsored by Sociomantic.


We'll be back with details. See you there!


Andrei


Good news!! So I am *definitely* coming to DConf 2016!! :)


Re: DConf 2015 has ended. See you in Berlin at DConf 2016!

2015-06-01 Thread Iain Buclaw via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 1 Jun 2015 10:10, Dejan Lekic via Digitalmars-d-announce 
digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com wrote:

 On Friday, 29 May 2015 at 23:42:00 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:

 DConf 2015 has been awesome, I'm taking a minute to post this that's
been announced a short while ago.

 We're pleased to announce that DConf 2016 will take place in Berlin,
sponsored by Sociomantic.

 We'll be back with details. See you there!


 Andrei


 Good news!! So I am *definitely* coming to DConf 2016!! :)

About time!


Re: DConf 2015 has ended. See you in Berlin at DConf 2016!

2015-06-01 Thread Dicebot via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Friday, 29 May 2015 at 23:42:00 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
DConf 2015 has been awesome, I'm taking a minute to post this 
that's been announced a short while ago.


We're pleased to announce that DConf 2016 will take place in 
Berlin, sponsored by Sociomantic.


We'll be back with details. See you there!


Andrei


Thanks for the chance to be there! Even if I am dissapointed with 
many decisions being made, the main thing is that D is getting 
new users and new success stories. And DConf tells those stories 
:)


Re: DConf 2015 has ended. See you in Berlin at DConf 2016!

2015-06-01 Thread Steven Schveighoffer via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 6/1/15 11:40 AM, Dan Olson wrote:

Dicebot pub...@dicebot.lv writes:


- Moving fibers between threads (though there is some hope that Liran
managed to convince Walter it is a bad idea)


I am interesting in this one.  What was the decision, that Fibers should
or should not be allowed to migrate between threads?  Is the discussion
in one of the recorded talks?



Walter said that fibers must be movable between threads, it was part of 
the AMA I think (day 1 final talk).


I will note to those reading this thread, the absolute most phenomenal 
part of attending the d conference is the live discussion that happens 
between talks, and afterwards over drinks/dinner. The live streams and 
recorded talks are no substitute. Just a nudge for anyone who is on the 
fence for next year :) I hope I can go next year, need to get that 
passport in order...


-Steve


Re: DConf 2015 has ended. See you in Berlin at DConf 2016!

2015-06-01 Thread Dan Olson via Digitalmars-d-announce
Dicebot pub...@dicebot.lv writes:

 - Moving fibers between threads (though there is some hope that Liran
 managed to convince Walter it is a bad idea)

I am interesting in this one.  What was the decision, that Fibers should
or should not be allowed to migrate between threads?  Is the discussion
in one of the recorded talks?


Re: DConf 2015 has ended. See you in Berlin at DConf 2016!

2015-06-01 Thread Laeeth Isharc via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 1 June 2015 at 12:39:13 UTC, Dicebot wrote:
On the other hand, AST macros have been officially rejected and 
that I like a lot :)


Hi.

Just out of curiosity, what are the evils of AST macros (or could 
you point me to something you like on the topic)?



Laeeth.


Re: DConf 2015 has ended. See you in Berlin at DConf 2016!

2015-06-01 Thread Walter Bright via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 6/1/2015 5:39 AM, Dicebot wrote:

- Moving fibers between threads (though there is some hope that Liran managed to
convince Walter it is a bad idea)


You two have made a good case. I'm on the fence :-)



Re: DConf 2015 has ended. See you in Berlin at DConf 2016!

2015-06-01 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Monday, 1 June 2015 at 16:23:14 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer 
wrote:
I will note to those reading this thread, the absolute most 
phenomenal part of attending the d conference is the live 
discussion that happens between talks, and afterwards over 
drinks/dinner. The live streams and recorded talks are no 
substitute. Just a nudge for anyone who is on the fence for 
next year :) I hope I can go next year, need to get that 
passport in order...


I can second that, and I'd like to add a personal note of thanks 
for the great advice that you offered me after my talk.  I'm 
starting to come around to some of the ideas I wasn't so sure of 
at the time ... :-)


Re: DConf 2015 has ended. See you in Berlin at DConf 2016!

2015-06-01 Thread Dmitri Makarov via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 1 June 2015 at 18:40:54 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:

only can add to a stable language without collateral damage.


does even a single stable language exist? (apart from the ones 
that nobody uses)


Re: DConf 2015 has ended. See you in Berlin at DConf 2016!

2015-06-01 Thread via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Monday, 1 June 2015 at 18:25:02 UTC, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
Just out of curiosity, what are the evils of AST macros (or 
could you point me to something you like on the topic)?


It turns all changes into breaking changes. It is something you 
only can add to a stable language without collateral damage.


Re: This Week in D: DConf 2015 Wednesday Morning writeups!

2015-06-01 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce
PS you might notice that my write up on Walter's talk was shorter 
than the other two... I didn't realize how long the walk into UVU 
was and I missed about the first 3/4 of it! If any of you would 
like to add more, let me know and I can ninja edit it in, or we 
can reddit comment or something.


Re: This Week in D: DConf 2015 Wednesday Morning writeups!

2015-06-01 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 2 June 2015 at 04:17:47 UTC, John Colvin wrote:
Actually, 
http://forum.dlang.org/post/sujyaurgyfumoiimi...@forum.dlang.org 
would be better


cool fixed, remember to refresh as the file is aggressively 
cached.


Re: DConf 2015: Individual talk links from the livestream

2015-06-01 Thread Nicholas Wilson via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 2 June 2015 at 04:16:06 UTC, John Colvin wrote:

Day 1:



Liran Zvibel:https://youtu.be/-OCl-jWyT9E?t=3720
David Nadlinger: https://youtu.be/-OCl-jWyT9E?t=3720


You missed David's talk time and listed Liran's twice.


Re: DConf 2015: Individual talk links from the livestream

2015-06-01 Thread John Colvin via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 2 June 2015 at 05:25:06 UTC, Nicholas Wilson wrote:

On Tuesday, 2 June 2015 at 04:16:06 UTC, John Colvin wrote:

Day 1:



Liran Zvibel:https://youtu.be/-OCl-jWyT9E?t=3720
David Nadlinger: https://youtu.be/-OCl-jWyT9E?t=3720


You missed David's talk time and listed Liran's twice.


Ugh. I knew I'd mess it up somehow.

David Nadlinger: https://youtu.be/-OCl-jWyT9E?t=7251


Re: This Week in D: DConf 2015 Wednesday Morning writeups!

2015-06-01 Thread Andrei Alexandrescu via Digitalmars-d-announce

On 6/1/15 9:03 PM, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/may-31.html

The rest of DConf will be reported within the next two weeks, then I'd
like to follow up with the speakers to see if they have anything else
they'd like to expand on and attendees if they have stuff to add about
it too (all of you: please email me any thoughts, including, but not
limited to, why you picked that topic and if there's anything you want
to add that wasn't in the talk itself, e.g., from off-camera discussions.)

Please also discuss on Reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/386bmt/this_week_in_d_dconf_2015_wed_morn_talk_summaries/


https://twitter.com/adamdruppe/status/605585525341233154


Nice! There were 38 attendees IIRC. -- Andrei


Re: DConf 2015: Individual talk links from the livestream

2015-06-01 Thread John Colvin via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 2 June 2015 at 04:16:06 UTC, John Colvin wrote:

Day 1:
Brian Schott: https://youtu.be/ep5vDQq15as
Liran Zvibel: https://youtu.be/-OCl-jWyT9E?t=3720
David Nadlinger: https://youtu.be/-OCl-jWyT9E?t=3720
Amaury Sechet: https://youtu.be/-OCl-jWyT9E?t=10189
Walter  Andrei AUA: https://youtu.be/-OCl-jWyT9E?t=14477

Day 2:
Chuck Allison: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=182
Lightening Talks:
Jonathan Crapuchettes: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=4088
Adam Ruppe: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=4477
Lionello Lunesu: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=4929
Erik Smith: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH35IxWkx8M
Walter Bright: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=5896
Mihails Strasuns https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=8031
Andy Smith: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=15825
Jonathan Davis: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=19410
Mark Isaacson: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=23056
Andrei Alexandrescu: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=23056
Open Mic / Q+A: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=27449

Day 3:
Andrei Alexandrescu: https://youtu.be/oA1exjdEIWw?t=44
Adam Ruppe: https://youtu.be/oA1exjdEIWw?t=4350
Joseph Wakeling: https://youtu.be/oA1exjdEIWw?t=7617
John Colvin: https://youtu.be/oA1exjdEIWw?t=12105
Atila Neves: https://youtu.be/oA1exjdEIWw?t=16190
Erich Gubler: https://youtu.be/oA1exjdEIWw?t=19178


Another correction: Erik Smith's Lightening talk is actually at 
https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=5357


DConf 2015: Individual talk links from the livestream

2015-06-01 Thread John Colvin via Digitalmars-d-announce

Day 1:
Brian Schott: https://youtu.be/ep5vDQq15as
Liran Zvibel: https://youtu.be/-OCl-jWyT9E?t=3720
David Nadlinger: https://youtu.be/-OCl-jWyT9E?t=3720
Amaury Sechet: https://youtu.be/-OCl-jWyT9E?t=10189
Walter  Andrei AUA: https://youtu.be/-OCl-jWyT9E?t=14477

Day 2:
Chuck Allison: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=182
Lightening Talks:
Jonathan Crapuchettes: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=4088
Adam Ruppe: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=4477
Lionello Lunesu: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=4929
Erik Smith: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH35IxWkx8M
Walter Bright: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=5896
Mihails Strasuns https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=8031
Andy Smith: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=15825
Jonathan Davis: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=19410
Mark Isaacson: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=23056
Andrei Alexandrescu: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=23056
Open Mic / Q+A: https://youtu.be/AH35IxWkx8M?t=27449

Day 3:
Andrei Alexandrescu: https://youtu.be/oA1exjdEIWw?t=44
Adam Ruppe: https://youtu.be/oA1exjdEIWw?t=4350
Joseph Wakeling: https://youtu.be/oA1exjdEIWw?t=7617
John Colvin: https://youtu.be/oA1exjdEIWw?t=12105
Atila Neves: https://youtu.be/oA1exjdEIWw?t=16190
Erich Gubler: https://youtu.be/oA1exjdEIWw?t=19178


Re: This Week in D: DConf 2015 Wednesday Morning writeups!

2015-06-01 Thread John Colvin via Digitalmars-d-announce

On Tuesday, 2 June 2015 at 04:08:09 UTC, John Colvin wrote:

On Tuesday, 2 June 2015 at 04:03:48 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:

http://arsdnet.net/this-week-in-d/may-31.html

The rest of DConf will be reported within the next two weeks, 
then I'd like to follow up with the speakers to see if they 
have anything else they'd like to expand on and attendees if 
they have stuff to add about it too (all of you: please email 
me any thoughts, including, but not limited to, why you picked 
that topic and if there's anything you want to add that wasn't 
in the talk itself, e.g., from off-camera discussions.)


Please also discuss on Reddit:

http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/386bmt/this_week_in_d_dconf_2015_wed_morn_talk_summaries/

https://twitter.com/adamdruppe/status/605585525341233154


Talk video start times link is wrong, should be 
http://forum.dlang.org/post/sntoieoitgwrcywcm...@forum.dlang.org


Actually, 
http://forum.dlang.org/post/sujyaurgyfumoiimi...@forum.dlang.org 
would be better