Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration
I've used SVN for document assets once, but the downside is that the front-end tools are primitive (like Tortoise SVN)and some folks would rather not be bothered w/ having to understand all the SVN lingo. To be honest, almost all the projects I've worked on we have a commercial CMS like Stellant or Sharepoint. Recently, I started looking into Jive (http://www.jivesoftware.com/), which we are beginning to set up at my work and it does a good job of version management and other things, but it is pricey. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45252 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] JOB: User Experience, User Interface, Interaction Design and User Researcher - California - CISCO - Permanent
4 Permanent User Experience, User Interface, Interaction Design and User Researcher Jobs at CISCO in California +contact recruiter Brent at brero...@cisco.com if interested+ 1. User Experience Manager - San Jose - Small Business Solutions Business Unit This leadership position within the Small Business Solutions Business Unit encompasses responsibility for driving all aspects of the Business Unit¹s user experience activities. You will be responsible for establishing and driving the overall strategy with emphasis on interactive design, visual design, documentation, and out of box¹ end user experience. 2. Senior User Experience Designer San Francisco Cisco¹s Consumer Business Group (CBG) (Flip Video www.theflip.com) CBG is seeking a Senior User Experience Designer to join our growing design team to work on a variety of website, software, hardware, and other user experience efforts. We are looking for someone with the talent to create elegant designs, the skills to participate throughout the end-to-end product develop process, and the passion to help us create innovative experiences for our users. The central focus for this role will be to design the online rich-media web application and Flipshare site user experience 3. Senior User Researcher - Santa Clara WebEx group Cisco/WebEx is looking for Senior User Researcher to join the User Experience Team. In this position you will be working closely with visual designers, interaction designers, usability engineers, product managers and engineers to define the user experience of Cisco/WebEx¹s communications suite. Responsibilities -designing test plans and conducting ethnographic research, generating user personas and scenarios, conducting heuristic reviews and usability studies *Graduate degree in Cognitive Psychology, Human Computer Interaction, Human Factors, Sociology, Anthropology or related field 4. Interaction Designer - San Francisco Cisco¹s Consumer Business Group (CBG) (Flip Video www.theflip.com) They need an Interaction Designer to work on software, hardware, websites, and other materials. We want someone with the talent to create elegant designs that appeal to a wide range of customers, the skills to support the product definition process, and the passion to help us create the best possible experience for our users. The central project for this role will be the Windows, Mac, and Web applications that our users employ to work with the videos they capture with our cameras. We need someone who can contribute to the design from the early conception of tools¹ functionality through to the final behavior specification, giving our products an elegant design that supports our brand: accessible, simple, and effective. The position will also involve various other design projects, including some collaboration with visual design in defining the presentation of the interface. Brent Rogers CISCO Recruiter Phone:469-255-0254 Mobile: 469-223-2085 LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/hotjob twitter: twitter.com/BrentRecruiter CISCO Job Link: CISCO.com/Jobs Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration
Hi Tom, I recommend you take a look at getdropbox.com. It's a great online backup tool and shared folder with version control that lets you sync files across different computers %u2013 Windows, Mac and Linux. Basically you sign up for an account, install their software and assign a folder in your computer as a shared resource. Dropbox will automatically backup your files and track the changes from a specified folder. In addition, you may share the contents of the folder with your team to keep everyone up-to-date. Dropbox has a free account which comes with 2GB of space you and your team can use for as long as you like. I've been using it for almost a year and am very happy with it. Hope this helps. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45252 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?
I think some amount of redundant navigation is ok...and breadcrumbs specifically are a place where navigation redundancy is fine. You can make a case for or against redundant navigation depending on the site, the purpose of the site, and the site visitor profile. What is the nature of the site? Do you have a screenshot / wireframe of the page to share? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45266 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Preferred Font for a logo and index page
myriad pro http://www.fonts.com/FindFonts/Detail.htm?pid=427413OVRAW=myriad proOVKEY=myriad proOVMTC=standardOVADID=47893552022OVKWID=236371336522 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45269 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] UX Brighton Event: September Special on Gameplay Research Design
(Cross-posted) When: September 8th, 2009 Where: iCrossing, Black Lion Street, Brighton (Map) Time: 6:30 pm - Cost: £ free Details: http://uxbrighton.org.uk/gameplay-research-and-design Talk descriptions will follow, but we've got *2 great speakers so book quickly*. *GiGi Demming* (User Testing Manager at Sony Computer Entertainment Europe) *Gareth White* (Co-director of Vertical Slice and ex-Rockstar Games developer) We may also have one or two other *mystery guests(!)* and possibly a demo. After the talks, we’ll continue the conversation over a drink at The Black Lion (next door to iCrossing). -- Danny Hope User Experience Consultant, Brighton (UK) +44 (0)7595 226 792 @yandle Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] A list of conference dates/deadlines with relevance to our community
Dear all, [apologies for cross-postings] I've compiled a list of conference dates/deadlines with relevance to our community. I aim to send an updated overview every once in a while. There's a printerfriendly version (for hanging on your wall) at http://www.interaction-design.org/calendar/printerfriendly.html or a world map at http://www.interaction-design.org/calendar/map.html If you feel something is missing, or if you find errors, please go to http://www.interaction-design.org/calendar/ and make additions or corrections. --- ISWC 2009, International Symposium on Wearable Computers Linz, Austria From Sep 04 to Sep 07 2009 Deadline(s): 5 April 2009: Submission Deadline (Full Papers, Posters, Notes) 18 May 2009: Submission Deadline (Late Breaking Results, Design Contest) More info on http://www.iswc.net --- HCI4MED 09 - 2nd Workshop on HCI for Medicine and Health Care Cambridge, UK From Sep 05 to Sep 05 2009 Deadline(s): More info on http://hci4all.at/hci4med09.html --- Mensch und Computer 2009 Berlin, Germany From Sep 06 to Sep 09 2009 Deadline(s): 6 July 2009: Early Bird Registration (Anmeldung mit Frühbucherrabatt) 31 August 2009: Online Registration (Online-Anmeldung) More info on http://www2.hu-berlin.de/mc2009/ --- INTERACCIÓN 09 Barcelona, Spain From Sep 07 to Sep 09 2009 Deadline(s): 15 April 2009: Submission Deadline 10 June 2009: Final Version More info on http://interaccion2009.aipo.es/ --- TAMODIA 2009 Cambridge, United Kingdom From Sep 07 to Sep 08 2009 Deadline(s): 27 April 2009: All paper categories (Scientific, Industrial/Demo, Student Short) More info on http://ihcs.irit.fr/tamodia2009/ --- ECSCW09 Conference Vienna, Austria From Sep 07 to Sep 11 2009 Deadline(s): 6 March 2009: Full/short papers submissions due 3 April 2009: All other submissions due More info on http://www.ecscw09.org --- Workshop on Affective Brain-Computer Interfaces (ABCI 2009) Amsterdam, The Netherlands From Sep 09 to Sep 09 2009 Deadline(s): 22 June 2009: Submission Deadline More info on http://hmi.ewi.utwente.nl/abci2009/ --- HAID'09, 4th International Workshop on Haptic and Audio Interaction Design Dresden, Germany From Sep 10 to Sep 11 2009 Deadline(s): 19 June : Posters and demos due for submission 20 April 2009: Papers due for submission More info on http://www.ias.et.tu-dresden.de/akustik/HAID09/ --- Affective Computing and Intelligent Interaction 2009 Amsterdam, The Netherlands From Sep 10 to Sep 12 2009 Deadline(s): 6 April 2009: Submission Deadline More info on http://www.acii2009.nl/ --- 11th International Conference on Engineering and Product Design Education Brighton, UK From Sep 10 to Sep 11 2009 Deadline(s): More info on http://www.epde09.org/ --- CRIWG 2009, 15th Collaboration Researchers' International Workshop on Groupware Peso da Régua, Douro, Portugal From Sep 13 to Sep 17 2009 Deadline(s): 3 April 2009: Submission Deadline More info on http://www.criwg.org --- Social Signal processing Workshop 2009 Amsterdam From Sep 13 to Sep 13 2009 Deadline(s): 15 June 2009: Submission Deadline More info on http://osterlix.idiap.ch/~vincia/sspworkshop/ --- IVA 2009, 9th International Conference on Intelligent Virtual Agents Amsterdam, The Netherlands From Sep 14 to Sep 16 2009 Deadline(s): 17 April 2009: Submission Deadline More info on http://iva09.dfki.de --- IDEA 2009, the annual Information Architecture Institute Conference Toronto, Ontario, Canada From Sep 15 to Sep 16 2009 Deadline(s): More info on http://ideaconference.org/2009/ --- MobileHCI 2009 Bonn, Germany From Sep 15 to Sep 18 2009 Deadline(s): 16 February 2009: Submission Deadline for full and short papers More info on http://www.mobilehci09.org/ --- Mobile Interaction with the Real World 2009 Bonn, Germany From Sep 15 to Sep 15 2009 Deadline(s): 4 May 2009: Submission Deadline More info on http://mirw09.offis.de/ --- Mobile HCI 2009 Tutorial day Bonn, Germany From Sep 15 to Sep 15 2009 Deadline(s): More info on http://www.mobilehci09.org/program/tutorials --- EuroSSC 2009 Guildford, UK From Sep 16 to Sep 18 2009 Deadline(s): 27 April 2009:
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration
We currently use Jungledisk Workgroup to manage multiple versions of comps, icon libraries, interactive prototypes, etc. A new web view just launched in beta which makes easy access to your files from any computer. I like this solution because it scales seamlessly and also works across Windows, Mac and Linux. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45252 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Where Industrial Design Meets IxD - Grad Programs
Hello, I am a recent CogSci - HCI graduate and I'm looking into Industrial Design (ID) programs that have close ties with IxD. Or the other way around...IxD programs that deal beyond digital media. I've found the ID program at SCAD close to what I'm looking for. Their curriculum includes Methods of Contextual Research Any other? Thanks! Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Preferred Font for a logo and index page
Hi, I am a fan of Interstate and Myriad Pro (Semi Bold). As others said in this discussion there is no set rules, we can choose fonts that adapts to our concept and in terms of logo - whichever adapts to the brands appeal. I really like Myriad Pro as the texts are very clear and the width is extremely structured. Sathish Sampath www.sathishsampath.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45269 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where Industrial Design Meets IxD - Grad Programs
Check out the excellent MSc progamme in Interaction Design at the Umeå School of Design in Umeå, Sweden. It might be a bit of a commute, though... ;-) http://www.dh.umu.se/default.asp?ml=10447 /Nils-Erik . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45317 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] UI Translation Resource
Hi All -- Can anyone recommend an agency or online service to translate user interface text? It will be translated from English to several other languages, and capturing the tone of voice is just as important as conveying accurate meaning and localizing ideas in some cases. I'm based in New York, but open to work with agencies elsewhere. Thanks in advance, Victor Lombardi Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UI Translation Resource
Victor, I'm told that www.worldwriters.com are very good. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45321 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UI Translation Resource
I can get you my partner company, in case you have any specific spec which they have to work with. I used a company here in India for my US client, worked well on cost and also in output. I can put you directly to them, if you dont mind working with an outside company. Thanks, Sathish Sampath www.sathishsampath.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45321 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Preferred Font for a logo and index page
Hi Kristen, I prefer verdana for most of the cases due to widly accepetance and available accross the plateform. If you are very perticular aboud brand you have to go with embedding fonts in your website. Embedding we do some time but not most of time but try to avoid Krvishal the design tree http://www.thedesigntree.net/ +91 9886173878 -Original Message- From: new-boun...@ixda.org [mailto:new-boun...@ixda.org] On Behalf Of Kristen Sent: 01 September 2009 12:37 To: disc...@ixda.org Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Preferred Font for a logo and index page I'm creating a web page and am having issues selecting a font. I recently watched a documentary on Helvetica, but it left me wondering if that really is the best way to go. Helvetica seems to be timeless but also does not stand out. What is your favourite font and why? Do you think small changes in a font will affect perception of a brand in one way or another? Reply to this thread at ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45269 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] [Event] Design by Fire conference 2009 - Utrecht, NL
Tuesday October 20th 2009, Spoorwegmuseum Utrecht (NL) For the third year in a row IxDA Nederland and Chi Nederland organize an international conference on interaction design. The event, by the name of 'Design by Fire 2009', offers an inspiring stage for interaction, information, interface and experience designers. THIS YEAR'S PROGRAM The 2009 program is shaping up nicely. We are very pleased with the speakers who confirmed so far: * Robert Hoekman, Jr., author of Designing the Obvious, Designing the Moment and the upcoming Web Anatomy, accepted our invitation to keynote at this year's conference. He will address the topic of Interaction Design Frameworks; * James Box Cennydd Bowles, UX Designers at Clearleft, will examine parallels between music and interaction design, including harmony, genre, rhythm, fashion and emotion; * Tom Jenkins, working as a Design Specialist in the Service and UI Design team at Nokia Design, will give suggestions for communicating new interactions; * Alrik Koudenburg, a curious and analytical design director, will talk about the importance to keep taking risks, about getting comfortable with being uncomfortable to come up with fresh new work; * Ronald Mannak, founder and CEO at Monodomo (formerly 1uptoys), will present a case study showing how to develop a successful product with an innovative user interface and a rich user experience; * Matt Jones, co-founder and lead designer at Dopplr.com, will examine how great UX design can maximize the services' benefits and impact. Like previous years, there will be enough time for the audience to participate in discussions after each presentation. Visit http://www.designbyfire.nl or follow us at http://twitter.com/designbyfire for program updates. JOIN US! Design by Fire 2009 will take place on Tuesday October 20th in the lecture hall of the Spoorwegmuseum (Dutch National Railway Museum), Utrecht. We would love to meet you there. Early birds are rewarded with a 30 euro discount, but bear in mind: seats are limited, so save your spot today. http://www.designbyfire.nl/tickets Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UI Translation Resource
Carsten Schmitt and Poppy James did a talk on this general topic at a recent UX Brighton event. The video is here if you're interested: http://www.vimeo.com/6113642 http://www.vimeo.com/6113642 -- Dr. Harry Brignull User Experience Consultant http://www.90percentofeverything.com + 44 (0)7920 474784 On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:51 AM, mediametrics sa...@mediametrics.co.inwrote: I can get you my partner company, in case you have any specific spec which they have to work with. I used a company here in India for my US client, worked well on cost and also in output. I can put you directly to them, if you dont mind working with an outside company. Thanks, Sathish Sampath www.sathishsampath.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45321 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] UX Book Club (South India) - Chennai
Hi All, I am planning to form the team for our UX book club. Lots of things are happening around in our industry, and Ux is getting its flavoured change every day. There are new things tried every minute (even when I am writing this email and when you are reading this). Lets get together and create a synergy and keep ourselves updated with every move. We can do lots if we get to gether. You don't need to be only in and around chennai now a days to be part, there is a lot of way we can connect. Its just the extention of hand and connecting to the other. Put your interest and your email id in - http://www.uxbookclub.org/doku.php?id=chennai As you know creating such things need some group of people, and I am happy that people have started putting their entries. Once we reach a good number, I can promise you, we are stepping our way to a new horizon of mutual help. Its not just you, please spread the word across and I am sure we can realise our dreams quicker. Sathish Sampath Director - International Business logo mailto:sa...@mediametrics.co.in| Phone - +91 - 9962590908 http://www.mediametrics.co.in http://www.mediametrics.co.in/ | www.sathishsampath.com image001.jpg Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] i phone app for frustrated clients - real estate company
Hi, I have a project coming along with me for creating an I phone App, that would be a handling point of clients extreme grievances (it's a real estate company). There are about 27 categories and another 13 categories inside the main categories. The clients point is that this has to be easy to be accessable and the clients should have preferences at any point in time to choose varieties of options in the same, having a very limited show area in i phone and also basically the target time of usage of this App is when the users are frustrated or angry. So I think the UX angle to this App is extremely important. I want to know if someone has done projects of similar extent? or done projects for handling negative emotions of people like grievance handling system etc..? Please advise on how to think on the UI, in case for the same, and in case any reference materials, please share it with me. it would be of great use for me. Thanks, Sathish Sampath Director - International Business logo mailto:sa...@mediametrics.co.in| Phone - +91 - 9962590908 http://www.mediametrics.co.in http://www.mediametrics.co.in/ | www.sathishsampath.com image001.jpg Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]
On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:32 PM, Jared Spool wrote: No, I wouldn't. Dozens of interviews I've conducted with self- proclaimed UCD professionals shows there is very little overlap in what UCD means or what a UCD professional does. Precisely why we use a data-driven goal oriented design approach and not user-centered design approach. With a data-driven goal oriented design approach we can make room for things like user goals, business goals, etc. Cheers! Todd Zaki Warfel Principal Design Researcher Messagefirst | Designing Information. Beautifully. -- Contact Info Voice: (215) 825-7423 Email: t...@messagefirst.com AIM:twar...@mac.com Blog: http://toddwarfel.com Twitter:zakiwarfel -- In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?
If your site structure is well thought out and not too complex, I think it can be helpful to display it to the user through breadcrumbs, especially if they spend a lot of time in the system and it would benefit them to learn the structure. Take URLs for instance - at the very least users can see what domain they're in - useful for security, and if they go directly to that domain they'll get the home page. Well structured URLs further this idea: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/sep/01/climate-change-poll I know from this URL that http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment will show me general environment news. I'm not saying novice users will pick this up straight away, but for people who use a system intensively, it's an efficient way to convey structure. 2009/9/1 Scott Chappell sc...@notesondesign.net I think some amount of redundant navigation is ok...and breadcrumbs specifically are a place where navigation redundancy is fine. You can make a case for or against redundant navigation depending on the site, the purpose of the site, and the site visitor profile. What is the nature of the site? Do you have a screenshot / wireframe of the page to share? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45266 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- http://formd.net Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]
Todd, how do you collect your data? is it quantitative or qualitative data? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45169 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] i phone app for frustrated clients - real estate company
Putting myself in the shoes an aggrieved tenant I would first say that it would increase my frustration if I were told to download an iPhone app in order to communicate with my real estate company! Clearly the app has to be created and positioned with the idea of added value - not only as the main interface for communication of complaints/problems. Therefore, you may want to have a good balance of value added features and grievance features. As for dealing with grievances, you need to hire a good writer who can make the app feel like a person is doing the helping, not a machine. I recommend you review this slideshare presentation for some tips re: building humanity into your interface: http://bit.ly/ncGxv. As for your 27 categories, it sounds like you may want to do a card sort exercise, using some accepted menu items that are common to the iPhone. There are a few inexpensive online card sort engines out there (e.g., websort.net) that you may want to use or simply go to the lobby of one of the properties and ask tenants to complete a quick card sort in exchange for some perk or reward ($ will work too). Involving the tenants in the process will have a nice PR payoff as well; I would post notices in the buildings telling tenants that you are looking for their ideas to help the company better handle issues/complaints. Best of luck! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45328 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing a long list of items that people mustchoose from.
Hi Paul, Firstly, I would look at the existing information (industry, occupation) to detect strange numbers: too high or too low. These might be indicating a misplaced occupation or a wrong labeled industry. this could be useful for fixing classification error or a complete waste of time, but I could not resist doing the analysis. Secondly, I would make the selection process as transparent to the user as possible, so they clearly realize that the industry question is a means to help them by narrowing the choices in the second question. I would consider adding an all of them option in the industry question. I would make the reaction to an industry selection change highly performant, sub-second, through the use of some simple javascript, so the user can experiment without the pain of annoying waits, and without losing the focus. This is to help a user that does not share the mental model of those who made the taxonomy. For example, I work for a software factory and might find things under consulting, software or outsourcing. Because industry is not a parent classification for occupation, think of the guy who works as a gardener in a pharmaceutical laboratory. Or an accountant in a casino. Additionally, depending on the characteristics of the audience, I could set an accelerator so they can type words or parts of words and get the list shortened by means of al AJAX script. Like thus: http://www.tecnosol.com.ar/ui/CG012.htm Notice that for the accelerator to be useful it must find occurences of the typed text not only at the beginning of the list items but anywhere, including inside words. It is very important for this feature to be useful that it beared zero time learning, and also that it could be bypassed without noticing it. If applicable I would also implement a multihierarchy in order to be able to add an occupation into more then one industry. -- Juan Lanus On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:05, Amy Jones ajo...@convio.com wrote: Have you thought of doing a survey and having people self-identify their occupation? No constraints, just a text field (or two- one for industry and one for occupation). You could even do it as a fill in the blank, eg, I work as a _ in the __ industry. You'd need a fairly large sample size, but it sounds like you may be working with a well-defined audience. Once you have a large list of how people think of their industry and occupation, you can normalize it and that becomes your list. You're never going to have a truly exhaustive list, though (unless you're dealing with a very constrained system), so the choice becomes having people not answer or answer incorrectly, vs having an optional not listed selection and having them write-in their occupation if they don't see it on the list. The first means you'll get less accurate data, the second means you'll get more data that will be hard to do anything with, so there are trade-offs either way. Good luck! --Amy Jones -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Paul Trumble Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:34 AM To: disc...@ixda.org Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Designing a long list of items that people mustchoose from. All: I'm looking for some advice, examples or even recommendations of who might be good at solving this particular problem for us. In the context of a longish multi-page web form we have a need for the user to tell us at a fairly granular level what their occupation is. the total length of the list is long, more than 1,000 choices. The accuracy of the answer is pretty important to our business as is our desire not to stop the users flow through the application because of either the difficulty or perceived intrusiveness of the question. I should add that most users don't view the question as being necessary based on their understanding of what they are filling out. Currently we use an introductory question (labeled currently 'industry', but in the past 'line of work' - the better version) to narrow down the list of occupations that are presented to the individual. This approach may well be the best solution to a difficult problem, but it brings a little emotional and cognitive overhead with it. Regularly when we observe users they will grumble that we are asking the same question twice, less so with the 'line of work' label I believe. Part of the problem with we have with this approach is that the choices in the industry list are not very good. The selections for industry are confusing and users don't always grasp that if their occupation is not showing up as a choice the solution to the problem might be to choose a different industry. The actual list has some regulatory constraints and a fair amount of internal political baggage. We are looking for a way to develop a new taxonomy that might make the process more
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Designing a long list of items that people mustchoose from.
Oops! After having sent my posting I noticed the other part of this thread ... and the list narrowing issues. I have something to add ... What I did was to make my autocompleter search not only the displayed item descriptions but also related keywords associated with the official names, that were not displayed. Including colloquial terms that the user never sees in the page. Thus, one looking for accelerator would also find items containing autocomplete. In your case it might be useful to gather information on what the user searched for and what occupation finally chose and build an associations map from eral life data. -- Juan Lanus On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 10:59, Juan Lanus juan.la...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Paul, Firstly, I would look at the existing information (industry, occupation) to detect strange numbers: too high or too low. These might be indicating a misplaced occupation or a wrong labeled industry. this could be useful for fixing classification error or a complete waste of time, but I could not resist doing the analysis. Secondly, I would make the selection process as transparent to the user as possible, so they clearly realize that the industry question is a means to help them by narrowing the choices in the second question. I would consider adding an all of them option in the industry question. I would make the reaction to an industry selection change highly performant, sub-second, through the use of some simple javascript, so the user can experiment without the pain of annoying waits, and without losing the focus. This is to help a user that does not share the mental model of those who made the taxonomy. For example, I work for a software factory and might find things under consulting, software or outsourcing. Because industry is not a parent classification for occupation, think of the guy who works as a gardener in a pharmaceutical laboratory. Or an accountant in a casino. Additionally, depending on the characteristics of the audience, I could set an accelerator so they can type words or parts of words and get the list shortened by means of al AJAX script. Like thus: http://www.tecnosol.com.ar/ui/CG012.htm Notice that for the accelerator to be useful it must find occurences of the typed text not only at the beginning of the list items but anywhere, including inside words. It is very important for this feature to be useful that it beared zero time learning, and also that it could be bypassed without noticing it. If applicable I would also implement a multihierarchy in order to be able to add an occupation into more then one industry. -- Juan Lanus On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:05, Amy Jones ajo...@convio.com wrote: Have you thought of doing a survey and having people self-identify their occupation? No constraints, just a text field (or two- one for industry and one for occupation). You could even do it as a fill in the blank, eg, I work as a _ in the __ industry. You'd need a fairly large sample size, but it sounds like you may be working with a well-defined audience. Once you have a large list of how people think of their industry and occupation, you can normalize it and that becomes your list. You're never going to have a truly exhaustive list, though (unless you're dealing with a very constrained system), so the choice becomes having people not answer or answer incorrectly, vs having an optional not listed selection and having them write-in their occupation if they don't see it on the list. The first means you'll get less accurate data, the second means you'll get more data that will be hard to do anything with, so there are trade-offs either way. Good luck! --Amy Jones -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.interactiondesigners.com] On Behalf Of Paul Trumble Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 9:34 AM To: disc...@ixda.org Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Designing a long list of items that people mustchoose from. All: I'm looking for some advice, examples or even recommendations of who might be good at solving this particular problem for us. In the context of a longish multi-page web form we have a need for the user to tell us at a fairly granular level what their occupation is. the total length of the list is long, more than 1,000 choices. The accuracy of the answer is pretty important to our business as is our desire not to stop the users flow through the application because of either the difficulty or perceived intrusiveness of the question. I should add that most users don't view the question as being necessary based on their understanding of what they are filling out. Currently we use an introductory question (labeled currently 'industry', but in the past 'line of work' - the better version) to narrow down the list of occupations that are presented to the individual. This approach may well be the best solution to a
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where Industrial Design Meets IxD - Grad Programs
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Leo Hamlhe...@gmail.com wrote: I am a recent CogSci - HCI graduate and I'm looking into Industrial Design (ID) programs that have close ties with IxD. University of Kansas has a MA in IxD that shares a lot with the ID program. And a professor who is formerly head of human factors for IDSA. http://www.sadp.ku.edu/design/interaction/ ~ Barbara Ballard Skype: barbara_ballard Twitter, Delicious: barbaraballard email: barb...@littlespringsdesign.com 1.785.838.3003 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] suggestions for best in class B2B websites?
Hi all, Does anyone have any B2B websites that they'd hold up as good examples? I'm doing a competitive review and none of my client's direct competitors have remarkable websites. I'm looking for: - A well-done B2B site - The company preferably sells a service rather than a physical product - Bonus if the company provides some selling tools right on the website rather than asking the customer just to call in for a quote - Bonus if the company has a self-service website for customers (DOUBLE bonus if I can become a customer so as to check it out!) We're going to do a logistics company (FedEx or UPS), a water delivery company (Poland Springs), and a software company (Bentley) but I'm reaaally struggling with others for some reason. Would be so grateful for other ideas. Thanks gang, Meredith Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UCD vs Design Again? Really?!? [was: We don't blah blah blah]
I think behind this polarization is a history in which, for example, there was a perception that engineered products did not take the user sufficiently into account, so there was a campaign, or philosophy, or set of methodological tools that marched together under the banner of advocating for the user. I think the concept of usability engineering most likely derives from a similar, perhaps earlier impulse: a diagnose that things were sometimes functional but difficult to use, and that studying the user's efforts to use the product might provide insights into how to improve it by making it more usable. I think the user interface and user experience terms (after both usability and ucd) derive from the same impulse again. To this day UED or UX or UI people on digital product teams often feel that they are, among other things, the user's advocate, the person gently and tactfully reminding (or annoyingly and condenscendingly lecturing) the engineers that lay people (end users) have to be met halfway. I think if we called ourself empathomancers we wouldn't get as many gigs. So when I see Jared tweaking the collective noses of the UCD industry, it looks to me like in many ways there is agreement on some vague premises (consider the user); disagreement on the relative value of different concerns (center more on the user, the user is not the center); mixed views of how the playing field is currently tilted and what would most improve our processes; strong disagreement around the veracity, utility, and scientific validity of various methods; and a little bit of professional mindshare meme competition around which framing terms will yield the most value in the marketplace. -x- On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Todd Zaki Warfel li...@toddwarfel.comwrote: On Sep 1, 2009, at 11:32 PM, Jared Spool wrote: No, I wouldn't. Dozens of interviews I've conducted with self-proclaimed UCD professionals shows there is very little overlap in what UCD means or what a UCD professional does. Precisely why we use a data-driven goal oriented design approach and not user-centered design approach. With a data-driven goal oriented design approach we can make room for things like user goals, business goals, etc. So you practice Big G design... :D -x- Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration
On 1 Sep 2009, at 18:36, Duane Taylor wrote: I've used SVN for document assets once, but the downside is that the front-end tools are primitive (like Tortoise SVN)and some folks would rather not be bothered w/ having to understand all the SVN lingo. To be honest, almost all the projects I've worked on we have a commercial CMS like Stellant or Sharepoint. Recently, I started looking into Jive (http://www.jivesoftware.com/), which we are beginning to set up at my work and it does a good job of version management and other things, but it is pricey. One _really_ big advantage of using Subversion[1] in my experiences is that it's easier to communicate with the rest of the development team if everybody is storing things in the same way/place. It's much easier to for a developer to miss a design change (or vice versa) if they have to remember to go look somewhere different from where they spend most of their time. It reinforces that everybody involved is working on the same thing. Cheers, Adrian [1] Or whatever source control system is being used[2] by your dev team [2] If they're not using one get a better dev team :-) -- http://quietstars.com - twitter.com/adrianh - delicious.com/adrianh Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where Industrial Design Meets IxD - Grad Programs
Ok, here's my best breakdown: ID programs that have IxD components: ahem: SCAD: I teach IxD here and we also have a service design, design management and sustainability masters program so you can really take a lot of courses. The program is a big D design program more than an ID program and I'm building an IxD masters program here. (enough w/ the plug) IIT/ID has a great graduate design program like SCADs it is really a boundary crosser probably focusing more in research than SCAD's (not that SCAD doesn't have a strong research component) Carelton in Ottawa is a great ID Progam w/ strong IxD Syracuse seems to have some good stuff as well. (there are 1000's of ID programs so going into strong detail will bring up lots of opinions. Someone mentioned Umea and I'd have to agree there, but I would also look at Delft and Einhoven in Europe as well (again so many programs). if you want an IxD program with ties to a sister or cousin ID or just strong 3D design components: KU is a new program with some interesting stuff going on. CMU's program is in their amazing Design school a total win-win In Europe, the CIID mentioned earlier is doing probably the best IxD education anywhere I've seen. I'm so impressed that they've become the bellweather for my own program creation. You can't ignore Royal College of Art Umea is a great program as well Delft, Utrecht also good stuff. -- dave . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45317 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?
Do you feel confused right now? Because the page you are viewing has no breadcrumbs. (I know, skewed sample). Breadcrumbs should be used as a means to reduce ambiguity and/or provide convenient access to higher levels within the organizational structure. You can get a rough feeling for the awareness/utility of your title breadcrumb by the volume of cllickthrough's on the breadcrumb's active links. Depending on the design system and technical execution, page title breadcrumbs can cause some problems. I've been in situations where extra-long title breadcrumbs have crowded out right side page functions, like print or email page, which got pushed down a couple of rows, which in turn pushed meaningful content below the fold. The breadcrumb was detrimental in that case, because the questionable redundancy reduced visibility of meaningful information. I've also seen situations where the breadcrumb title and the page title were slightly different, and that really confused users. Redundancy is not necessarily a bad thing. One person's redundancy is another person's confirmation. If the title breadcrumb is not causing any problems there's no need to spend LOE fixing it. Paul Bryan Usography Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/uxexperts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45266 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?
Thank you for your thoughtful replies. I don't agree that including page titles in breadcrumbs is a standard -- lots of sites do it, but many don't. If Apple isn't doing it, can it really be a standard? ;-) With a visually-related title and breadcrumb (alignment, proximity, , etc.) I cannot imagine people thinking, or saying in usability, Where am I? How did I get here? How do I get back to the main page? whether the breadcrumb includes the page title or not. If they do, we have bigger problems than a breadcrumb. I guess leaning towards Jared's argument -- if they're really that critical, something is wrong. (And if they're not needed altogether, that certainly does beg the question...) Of course people may have more of a vague sense than a clearly-formed question, but I'm going to ponder how to test this. I'm really curious to try to manifest a response to having the page title or not in usability. (Any thoughts?) I agree with you Paul. I had no idea I'd spend any energy at all on this, honestly. Thought it was a simple change that everyone would agree with. (I should know by now, any time I have a thought that starts with, I'll just..., I'm probably in for it.) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45266 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?
Re: redundancy -- That's redundant is a criticism that never makes much sense to me. This isn't the physical world we're dealing with. Efficiency is not gained through avoidance of redundant page elements. If a title is restated in the nav and the body of the page, I'm not sure how it hurts the user experience. (This isn't to say that breadcrumbs are helpful/not helpful -- that's a different discussion.) -Anne On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:10 AM, paul bryan p...@usography.com wrote: Do you feel confused right now? Because the page you are viewing has no breadcrumbs. (I know, skewed sample). Breadcrumbs should be used as a means to reduce ambiguity and/or provide convenient access to higher levels within the organizational structure. You can get a rough feeling for the awareness/utility of your title breadcrumb by the volume of cllickthrough's on the breadcrumb's active links. Depending on the design system and technical execution, page title breadcrumbs can cause some problems. I've been in situations where extra-long title breadcrumbs have crowded out right side page functions, like print or email page, which got pushed down a couple of rows, which in turn pushed meaningful content below the fold. The breadcrumb was detrimental in that case, because the questionable redundancy reduced visibility of meaningful information. I've also seen situations where the breadcrumb title and the page title were slightly different, and that really confused users. Redundancy is not necessarily a bad thing. One person's redundancy is another person's confirmation. If the title breadcrumb is not causing any problems there's no need to spend LOE fixing it. Paul Bryan Usography Linked In: http://www.linkedin.com/in/uxexperts . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45266 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Anne Hjortshoj | anne...@gmail.com | www.annehj.com | Skype: anne-hj Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] Non-disclosure agreements
I have a new client who wants me to sign an NDA. The issue is, what I would be working on has to do with consumer experience. There is a line in the NDA she sent me that says all information or material that has or could have commercial value or other utility in the business in which Disclosing Party is engaged. That to me seems way too broad and could negate my ability to work on other projects related to user experience. Obviously, I am in no way willing to do that. It does seem like a pretty good project though, so I wanted to take some time to adjust the NDA she sent me to something I actually would be willing to sign. I was hoping maybe some of you on here have an NDA template that is less vague and more protective of designer's rights. In lieu of any examples, any suggestions as to wording that would not write myself out of future opportunities, yet promise not to reveal details of the client's specific idea, would be greatly appreciated. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] LBi/IconNicholson - Senior ID and Senior IA Needs
LBi/IconNicholson is currently seeking a Senior Interaction Designer to become part of an energized, multi-disciplinary group. If you love the interactive space, appreciate a culture where your work is respected, your opinion counts and you are surrounded by the best and the brightest read on! We are looking for several long-term freelancers to join us immediately. Qualities that our Senior Interaction Designers possess are: * 5+ years of experience in interactive media design (preferably within a creative team); * A minimum of 3 years in a role exclusively addressing interaction design (preferably working with complex sites); * Ability to research, understand and organize large amounts of specialized content; * Excellent writing, speaking, presentation and interpersonal skills; * Experience in leading JAD sessions (or similar group brainstorming); * Experience in managing and mentoring others; * Proficiency in one or more of the following: Adobe InDesign, Adobe Illustrator, Microsoft Visio, HTML, Dreamweaver (or similar); * Ability to develop interface functionality; * Capable of producing clean and concise site maps, transaction flows, diagrams and interface schematics; and * Able to assist in the authoring of functional requirements and other related proactive business communication. If you believe that you meet all these qualifications and weve described your profile above, please submit your resume, work samples and compensation information to Elizabeth Peterson Talent Manager epeter...@iconnicholson.com Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] suggestions for best in class B2B websites?
Hi Meredith, I would check out these guys. They definitely fit your description on all accounts: http://www.fogcreek.com/FogBugz/ We've started using them for our project management and bug tracking on our projects. As a user experience designer and business owner I've been very impressed with their approach to market and the execution of their product so far. Also, you can get a free 45 day trial, so you can check it out without taking any money out of pocket! I hope this helps! thanks, Ethan Worrel ENTERMEDIA LLC www.entermedianow.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45337 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Where Industrial Design Meets IxD - Grad Programs
The graduate program in design at the University of Washington in Seattle has majors in visual communication, industrial, and interaction design. The students major in only one of the three, but there is a lot of exchange among them and in the curricula. http://art.washington.edu/4_Design . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45317 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] IxDA Atlanta Design Slam Event, September 9th
IxDA Atlanta is hosting a design slam event the evening of September 9th, at Macquarium in Buckhead. What's a design slam? Basically, it's a fun and collaborative event around an interesting design problem posed by a client. Slam participants group into teams who then devise and document design solutions using simple tools like markers, paper, pencils, and Post-it notes. When time is up, teams present their designs, invited judges select the best design, and the winning team is announced and applauded--and possibly taken out for drinks afterwards! It's going to be great fun, so sign up today! When: Wednesday, September 9th at 7 p.m. sharp! Networking at 6:30. Where: The Macquarium Theater Who: You! And your design colleagues Directions RSVP: http://ixdaatlanta.ning.com/events/ixda-atlanta-event-ixdux-slam We don't have food or drink planned, so please grab a bite beforehand or bring something with you to have here. Need more info? Have a question? Leave a comment at the above event/RSVP page, or send an email to atlanta-lo...@ixda.org. See you there! IxDA Atlanta p.s. If you're in or around Atlanta and haven't yet joined IxDA Atlanta, all it takes is signing up at the site referenced by the above link. Join us! Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration
Thanks for the input everyone, there's a lot to digest here! Will follow up with a summary and the approach we choose. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45252 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Non-disclosure agreements
First off - I am no lawyer. If you really want to know the answer you would need consult a lawyer. *** AND *** These documents (and their enforcement) differ according to what state the company you are working for is in. State regs play a part in this. So any answers you get on this forum may work for the person's state that they are in but not yours. As an overall intent with NDAs and Non-competes is that what you came in with is yours (stuff/knowledge/experience/whatever). Anything that you created/did/exposed that is not fundamentally in the public domain while doing work for a company (that you have signed an agreement with) is theirs. It is in the proof of what is in the public domain where things could get sticky. However, there are certainly more things in the public domain than are not. Keep in mind that sometimes 'vague' in these documents is not bad. Again - I am not a lawyer. - Original Message - From: Stefanie Kelly stefa...@conceptfarm.ca To: disc...@ixda.org Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 3:44:31 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [IxDA Discuss] Non-disclosure agreements I have a new client who wants me to sign an NDA. The issue is, what I would be working on has to do with consumer experience. There is a line in the NDA she sent me that says all information or material that has or could have commercial value or other utility in the business in which Disclosing Party is engaged. That to me seems way too broad and could negate my ability to work on other projects related to user experience. Obviously, I am in no way willing to do that. It does seem like a pretty good project though, so I wanted to take some time to adjust the NDA she sent me to something I actually would be willing to sign. I was hoping maybe some of you on here have an NDA template that is less vague and more protective of designer's rights. In lieu of any examples, any suggestions as to wording that would not write myself out of future opportunities, yet promise not to reveal details of the client's specific idea, would be greatly appreciated. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] International Workshop: \Open-Ended Design: Future Challenges for Designers and Developers\
Dear Friends, this very exciting workshop will take place ad part of Tweak on September 23rd. Places will be allocated on a first come first served basis. REGISTRATION OPEN: http://www.tweak.ie/open-ended.html International Workshop: Open-Ended Design: Future Challenges for Designers and Developers Tweak Festival, University of Limerick (Ireland), September 23rd 2009 Invited Speakers: Massimo Banzi (Arduino, Italy), Rob Van Kranenburg (Council, the Netherlands), Tobie Kerridge (Goldsmiths College, UK), John McCarthy (UCC, Ireland) Workshop Theme This workshop is aimed at exploring issues surrounding new forms of technology design and development that reflect the increasing role that end-users have in dealing with novel technologies. Web 2.0, social networks, and open source hardware and software platforms have led to a major shift in the conceptualization of users, from passive recipients of previously packaged content and/or functionality, to active participants that are able to re-configure, personalize and adapt the technology. Increasingly designers of current interactive technologies are faced with the challenge of catering for a two-way interaction, in which the user wants to alter and adapt the technological object to make it useful to them. The designer and developers role becomes one of facilitating and enabling adaptive experiences rather than directing the user towards a specific experience of use. Additionally computers are also evolving in their form and function they are becoming objects we live with, not just tools for work, therefore the need to explore peoples broader relationships with technology and what these relationships say about our technology and our humanity becomes more apparent. The conception of design being an ongoing, social process is not new and there have been many studies of open source communities in this respect. However, there is a current debate relating to several aspects related to such new patterns of usage and re-appropriation of technology. Some of the open questions are: Can we deliberately design for appropriation? What does it really mean to modify and develop technologies for such behavior in practical terms? How is the role of the designer or developer changing? Which new hardware and software platforms are being developed with an eye towards user participation? The proposed workshop will explore challenges related to the conceptual framework for the design of interactive systems, the changing role of the designer/developer, the emergence of new technical platforms for open-ended user participation. The discussion at the workshop and its dissemination will contribute to the ongoing debate on these topics in the Interaction Design, Human-Computer Interaction and Software Development communities. Preliminary programme: Presentations and discussions in the morning, followed by hands-on sessions facilitated by the speakers in the afternoon. WHEN Date: Wednesday 23rd Sep 2009 Doors open: 9.30 am Starts: 10am - 4.30pm WHERE Kilmurry Hall, University of Limerick Castletroy, Limerick, Ireland REGISTER Tickets and places available on a first come first served basis. Booking is now open at: http://www.tweak.ie/open-ended.html Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] IxDA Atlanta Design Slam Event, September 9th
Had a minor issue with the RSVP page, but it's fixed, and still at http://ixdaatlanta.ning.com/events/ixda-atlanta-event-ixdux-slam . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45345 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UX Team Collaboration
We are just getting started using SubVersion and have hit some snags. We think there is a file size limit of about 21MB which is causing some problems for us. Also the repro browser and the working copy obliterate the file type icon with a big ugly status icon which we find very difficult to work with. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45252 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] JOB: User Interface Designer - Reston, VA - comScore - Fulltime
Were looking for a User Interface Designer to join the team that designs comScores suite of web-based reporting applications. In this position youll have the opportunity to make an immediate impact on the design of sites and applications at comScore. You will also help drive the long-term direction and practices of the design team. Responsibilities - Design and prototype new features and enhancements to our web-based reporting platform. - Create rough wireframes and highly-refined prototypes - Create the HTML/CSS/JavaScript that the development team starts working from. - Bring ideas to life in a visually pleasing, simple and intuitive way. - Participate in the full development lifecycle, from figuring out what an application should do to designing exactly how it works. - Collaborate across teams to ensure your work meets the objectives, is feasible from an engineering point of view and will be usable from the clients perspective. - Work with other designers to ensure consistency while driving innovation across our applications. Qualifications - Bachelors degree in Design or Art (or equivalent experience) - 3-5 years of experience designing and developing web interfaces, including wireframes, mockups and HTML. - Advanced skills with Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator. - Excellent oral and written communication skills so you can clearly communicate your ideas across the organization. - Strong analytical skills and the ability to find solutions to complex problems - Proven ability to lead projects and drive things forward Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] suggestions for best in class B2B websites?
Hey Meredith, Some good examples of B2B sites that I have found have been the following: http://nutritionbusinessjournal.com/ This one is a subscription site, so you can join to get the premium content http://basecamphq.com/ This is a project management system, but could work for you as well. Hope that helps. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45337 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?
Outside of the breadcrumb conversation altogether, and assuming that simpler is better where simpler is reasonable, feasible, etc. redundant is simple shorthand for this is already here and it's not adding value precisely because it's already here. If one thing is doing something different from the other then by definition they're not redundant: re·dun·dant 1. Exceeding what is necessary or natural; superfluous. 2. Needlessly wordy or repetitive in expression I think (and see in research) that efficiency *is* gained because people have to parse less stuff to find what they want... That's redundant is a criticism that never makes much sense to me. This isn't the physical world we're dealing with. Efficiency is not gained through avoidance of redundant page elements. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45266 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
[IxDA Discuss] JOB: Information Architect / Austin / T3 / Freelance
Freelance Information Architect opening in Austin, Texas. Position #: 62578 We are looking for a team-oriented freelance Information Architect. Our Information Architects work with creative teams and developers to craft and chart innovative strategies rooted in fundamentals of usability, standards, and plain old common sense. From a projects infancy through beyond the launch, the Information Architect helps lay the structural foundations for online and offline experiences and those that crossover. This individual must understand and refine client strategy and develop content and functionality that meets both client objectives and user goals. They must collaborate with visual designers and programmers to develop information architecture and user interfaces, and create proposals, functional specification, flowcharts, and schematics. IA's act as the 'user's advocate' and are responsible for conceptual development. This is not a waterfall software design role -- Flexibility to changing requirements, tight timelines, and Earth-shattering creative is a must. Required Experience: - 2-3 years of relevant experience in information design, information architecture, or similar disciplines is required - Strong background in web standards, information design/architecture, and usability is a must. - Proficiency with Visio, Omnigraffle or other flow-based presentation tools required. Contract work will be 20-40 hours per week based on project needs. If you are interested in this opportunity, please submit your resume at http://www.absolutehire.com/jobboard/wrapper/T3.htm or contact me at erin.yo...@t-3.com with questions. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] UI Translation Resource
I know someone who worked with MotionPoint and had a good experience. I have not worked with them personally. http://www.motionpoint.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45321 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?
Whether or not you should include them is one question. It seems that you've already decided that you should. How to implement them is what you're asking. You Are Here is not necessary if the trail clearly ends with the page that you're currently on. I recommend leaving it unlinked so its clear that its your current location. It serves 2 purposes: 1) Anchoring the rest of the breadcrumb and clarifying what it the breadcrumb actually is. (Otherwise could be mistaken for page history, etc.) 2) Positioning the PAGE YOU'RE ON is within the greater site hierarchy. That's the basis of a hierarchical breadcrumb, but it becomes a little convoluted if the page you're on is not included in the hierarchy you show. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45266 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Non-disclosure agreements
You need to see a lawyer about this and it should be someone who is an intellectual property attorney (my wife is one so I get good advice). State laws do vary and while a non-compete can have a non-disclosure statement, an NDA related to the specific project is not the same. Companies will often negotiate terms of non-competes and NDAs if you bring things to their attention though some are also very resistant to changes. See an IP attorney to be safe. Chauncey On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Stefanie Kellystefa...@conceptfarm.ca wrote: I have a new client who wants me to sign an NDA. The issue is, what I would be working on has to do with consumer experience. There is a line in the NDA she sent me that says all information or material that has or could have commercial value or other utility in the business in which Disclosing Party is engaged. That to me seems way too broad and could negate my ability to work on other projects related to user experience. Obviously, I am in no way willing to do that. It does seem like a pretty good project though, so I wanted to take some time to adjust the NDA she sent me to something I actually would be willing to sign. I was hoping maybe some of you on here have an NDA template that is less vague and more protective of designer's rights. In lieu of any examples, any suggestions as to wording that would not write myself out of future opportunities, yet promise not to reveal details of the client's specific idea, would be greatly appreciated. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Identity Design and Eye Tracking
http://www.ixda.org/discuss.php?post=44684 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Identity Design and Eye Tracking
Thanks for the link Andrei. I'll certainly read all the posts with great interest. Though from some of the posts, I see that people are against eye tracking due to the cost. In the near future eye tracking equipment won't be that expensive. Ali . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45364 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Non-disclosure agreements
* Does anybody else remember the much-publicized squabble between Apple Msoft back in late 80's/early 90's, I believe, over who owned The Trash Can as the Delete symbol? LOL NDA's are ultimately relevant only to what's enforceable. UxP is usually building a better mousetrap. To my understanding, nobody actually owns the concept of a mousetrap - tho I'm sure that there are protectable patents on some of the different unique methods. Net/Net: No court is going to prevent you from making a living. Most large corps put in expansive language - thanks to their Legal Department - but aren't really interested in preventing you from using your UxP skills, much as their over-priced lawyers might want it. Anyhow, most big corps aren't interested in doing that. If their lawyer scum DOES try to intimidate you, you might ask them if they really want to be the Goliath/BigCorporateBully figure in a restraint of trade suit. In my experience small entrepreneurs far likelier to be actively neurotic about their genius killer app. But that's another story... And - obviously - I'm not a lawyer. John Generally, I ask if the client can identify what they want to protect. It's usually a) data, b) confidential clients or c) some obscure code that you aren't going to touch anyhow. * If they make a convincing argument that the UI is really the only competitive edge they want to protect, then you might want to ask them if they'd like to make you a partner... - Original Message - From: Chauncey Wilson chauncey.wil...@gmail.com To: Stefanie Kelly stefa...@conceptfarm.ca Cc: disc...@ixda.org Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 5:25 PM Subject: Re: [IxDA Discuss] Non-disclosure agreements You need to see a lawyer about this and it should be someone who is an intellectual property attorney (my wife is one so I get good advice). State laws do vary and while a non-compete can have a non-disclosure statement, an NDA related to the specific project is not the same. Companies will often negotiate terms of non-competes and NDAs if you bring things to their attention though some are also very resistant to changes. See an IP attorney to be safe. Chauncey On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 3:44 AM, Stefanie Kellystefa...@conceptfarm.ca wrote: I have a new client who wants me to sign an NDA. The issue is, what I would be working on has to do with consumer experience. There is a line in the NDA she sent me that says all information or material that has or could have commercial value or other utility in the business in which Disclosing Party is engaged. That to me seems way too broad and could negate my ability to work on other projects related to user experience. Obviously, I am in no way willing to do that. It does seem like a pretty good project though, so I wanted to take some time to adjust the NDA she sent me to something I actually would be willing to sign. I was hoping maybe some of you on here have an NDA template that is less vague and more protective of designer's rights. In lieu of any examples, any suggestions as to wording that would not write myself out of future opportunities, yet promise not to reveal details of the client's specific idea, would be greatly appreciated. Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mozilla Design Challenge: Fall '09 – Mozilla Weave Project
This looks like an interesting challenge, however I've not used Weave and I was wondering if anyone could tell me the advantage over web-based solutions. For example, you can store all your bookmarks with Delicious and use the Firefox plugin: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/3615 The advantage of this is that the plugin helps, but if the browser I'm using does not have it, or is incompatible, I can always view and search my bookmarks from the web interface. From the challenge text it seems they are thinking of making Weave, or a part of it, web based - so this would be direct competition with Delicious? Joe --- http://formd.net Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Mozilla Design Challenge: Fall '09 – Mozilla Weave Project
I'm no Weave expert but a couple of things to note: - Weave data is heavily encrypted at the server and along the pipes - It includes not just bookmarks but other critical aspects of your profile like history, partial form completions, and open tabs. It's really about recreating your whole browser environment, not just bookmarks. I've hacked up a quick load of the sample data into a client side JS database (TaffyDB). Ping me off-list if you'd like the starter kit. -Andy http://sufmind.com On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Joe Lanman j...@formd.net wrote: This looks like an interesting challenge, however I've not used Weave and I was wondering if anyone could tell me the advantage over web-based solutions. ... Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?
On Sep 2, 2009, at 10:45 AM, Audrey Crane wrote: Of course people may have more of a vague sense than a clearly-formed question, but I'm going to ponder how to test this. I'm really curious to try to manifest a response to having the page title or not in usability. (Any thoughts?) Audrey, If, by in usability, you mean in a usability study, I can help. (If that's not what you meant, then I don't know what you're referring to, since usability is an adjective.) You can't use a traditional formative usability study, since you can't control the need for breadcrumbs. You have to construct a study that's more analytical, that compares treatment options in a controlled fashion. To study something like the effectiveness of a specific design treatment of breadcrumbs, you first need to understand what your behavioral objective for the breadcrumbs are. What behaviors are you trying to elicit? For example, If the behavior is mental model development (in other words, the users have a better idea of where they are within the structure of the site), then you can show people sample pages with the breadcrumbs and ask them to draw a diagram of the structure of the site. (If you want to do this as a controlled study, then you can repeat the activity by showing the control group pages without the breadcrumbs and see if their diagrams are different. And if you really want to get all study-crazy, you can then followup with a task-driven study and see if people who were exposed to the breadcrumbs perform better on the site than people who weren't.) Another example: If the behavior is error recovery (aka I-don't-know- how-I-ended-up-here-and-need-to-get-out), then you can drop people onto random pages (the way they might if they clicked on a link in a search engine) and ask them how they'd navigate to a target page. You could see if the breadcrumbs get them anywhere useful. In either case, showing the participants breadcrumbs with or without the titles in a controlled fashion (either a within- or between- subjects study would probably work fine), would tell you which treatment performed better. If you have other behavioral objectives, then, depending on what you want people to do with the information, it would be fairly easy to design the study. Of course, these would not be cheap studies to execute. You'll need a lot of participants to control for the various interfering variables involved (domain knowledge, tool knowledge, experience with technology, education level, performance anxiety issue, and others). It'll take a decent stats person to clean up the data and report any conclusive results. And here's the kicker: if your results are like our results, you'll find that virtually nothing you do with breadcrumbs will make a difference. So, I'm predicting that after all that effort, you'll find that you've not discovered any benefit to either treatment. Our studies show that people don't form any better mental models about the site when they encounter breadcrumbs than when they don't. (Our studies also show that users don't need a representative mental model of the site structure to successfully complete tasks on a site, so breadcrumbs aren't really solving a problem here.) Our studies also show that breadcrumbs are not the best treatment for error recovery. More explicit links (the best being 7 to 12 words in length) work significantly better. Of course, you're still treating the symptom. It's better to solve the problem and prevent the user from needing to recover from an error. Hope that helps, Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help
Re: [IxDA Discuss] Breadcrumbs including page title or no?
I think (and see in research) that efficiency *is* gained because people have to parse less stuff to find what they want... I'd argue that people are parsing an entire page design, which can be something that is done well with redundant labels (or not) -- it's a function of context and the judgment of the person doing the design. And there I will let this rest. -Anne On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Audrey Crane audcr...@gmail.com wrote: Outside of the breadcrumb conversation altogether, and assuming that simpler is better where simpler is reasonable, feasible, etc. redundant is simple shorthand for this is already here and it's not adding value precisely because it's already here. If one thing is doing something different from the other then by definition they're not redundant: re·dun·dant 1. Exceeding what is necessary or natural; superfluous. 2. Needlessly wordy or repetitive in expression I think (and see in research) that efficiency *is* gained because people have to parse less stuff to find what they want... That's redundant is a criticism that never makes much sense to me. This isn't the physical world we're dealing with. Efficiency is not gained through avoidance of redundant page elements. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Posted from the new ixda.org http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=45266 Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help -- Anne Hjortshoj | anne...@gmail.com | www.annehj.com | Skype: anne-hj Welcome to the Interaction Design Association (IxDA)! To post to this list ... disc...@ixda.org Unsubscribe http://www.ixda.org/unsubscribe List Guidelines http://www.ixda.org/guidelines List Help .. http://www.ixda.org/help