Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is there a place to post local chapter meeting announcements on the OSGeo site?

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

You can always make an event for an upcoming meeting:
https://www.osgeo.org/events/


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On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 7:48 AM Bob Basques via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> All,
>
>
>
> I think I’ve asked this before, but is there a place on OSGeo to announce
> local chapter meetings that are coming up?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Bobb
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Get me in Teams
> <https://teams.microsoft.com/l/chat/0/0?users=bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us>
>
> *PW19-S295-C024*
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fw: Re: Change in mailing list configuration

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

Thanks folks, and thanks to Sandro and system admin team for managing all
this stuff.

I know from my own experience (website reboot) that by the time a change is
shared with disc...@osgoe.org list that the topic is already well underway;
and it is hard to slow down and introduce the change to the wider community.

When working on a lot of tickets it is difficult to predict which ones will
be noticed, let alone desire wider discussion.

suggestion: Perhaps the sysadmin committee could a send an email of planned
infrastructure changes each month. Then the community could notice any
items of interest for discussion. We would have to keep system admin
committee communication channels in mind and comment via the trac tickets.

aside: I was surprised that my own email filters navigated the change which
was set to filter [osgeo-discuss] ... but then I noticed I have a catch-all
filtering any osgeo lists server email to this folder.
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On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 8:21 AM Sandro Santilli  wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 02:37:26PM +, Luís Moreira de Sousa wrote:
> > Please read below, in addition to my questions, I note that with the new
> setup my e-mail application no longer replies automatically to the list.
>
> I went looking at the mails before the change also had Reply-To: real
> author, so should have been the same. Please give it a try.
>
> Meanwhile I'm going to revert the change.
>
> --strk;
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

Vicky is just the messenger, and may of caused some confusion when
describing a new service the system admin committee has brought online.
There no move planned; just some new software has just been installed and
is available for any groups wishing to make use of discourse.

Folks have requested a forum for a while now - part of lowering the barrier
of entry for a new generation etc…
I hope the groups that have been waiting for this could help explain to the
discussion list.

I am afraid I am just unfamiliar with this particular forum software which
is why I have been asking questions.
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On Dec 29, 2023 at 3:43:03 AM, Cannata Massimiliano via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
> My 2cents...
>
> Discourse seems an appealing solution for query and answer but I agree
> with Bruce that before we move we should have a nice open discussion, since
> it's not gonna be the magic stick...
> I've seen the platform used at some universities and seeing last post
> dated one year ago didn't attract people to use it..
>
> I also believe we have a low engagement rate in the latest year and deep
> open reflections should be done in my opinion to revamp it... Since our
> community have been highly relevant and has more to say in my opinion..
>
>
> Il 28 dic 2023 23:53, Bruce Bannerman via Discuss 
> ha scritto:
>
> Apart from these few emails telling me that a move to something called
> Discourse is happening, I have not seen any discussion on our lists
> explaining the pros and cons of such a move.
>
> I find this lack of community engagement on this issue to be troubling.
>
> This does not seem to be a very open source community way of making such a
> significant move.
>
> Personally, what we have now has been working nicely for me for close on
> 20 years.
>
> The lists have been very quiet for quite a while now, but that is a
> community engagement issue. It is not something that technology will
> magically fix.
>
> It seems to me that we have a case of the tail wagging the dog.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Bruce
>
>
> On 29 Dec 2023, at 05:15, Jody Garnett via Discuss <
> discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>
> 
> Reading online it appears there is:
>
> 1. A mailing list mode so notifications are sent out each time a post is
> made (this is a user preference)
>
> 2. A reply via email mode
>
> So experimentation is needed.
>
> Reference:
> -
> https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-mailing-list-mode/46008/8
> -
> https://meta.discourse.org/t/set-up-reply-by-email-with-pop3-polling/14003
>
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 10:09 AM Jody Garnett 
> wrote:
>
> I think we need someone who understand how discourse works to make an
> informed decision.
>
> If the forum fills up with questions; and the developers are minding the
> email list - it will not work out so well :) At least as described.
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 6:58 AM Vicky Vergara  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 11:43 AM Jody Garnett 
> wrote:
>
> Q: So if a mailing list is mirrored to discourse it operates similar to
> nabble used to? Is searchable etc …
>
> I don't know the details of how discourse works,
>
>
> But replies done via discourse are not sent to mailing list subscribers -
> so it is one way communication.
>
> https://meta.discourse.org/t/create-a-read-only-mailing-list-mirror/77990
>
>
> And the thinking here is that discourse is easier for people who want to
> ask a specific question without subscribing to a mailing list (and getting
> yet more email).
>
> Yes, so you can have the mirror in one category and another catergory for
> Q
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 9:07 AM Vicky Vergara  wrote:
>
> Hi Jody
>
> We are offering options
>
> Before:
> Use mailing list
>
> After:
> * Use mailing list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/
> * Use mailing list and see the archives also on discourse
> * Use discourse without a mailing list
>
>
> This are the possibilities regarding migration of mailing list
> * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse example [1]  (Use
> discourse without a mailing list, but get previous conversations from
> mailing list)
> * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse example [2] (Use mailing list
> and see the archives also on discourse)
> * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list example [3] was
> created by Jody (Use discourse without a mailing list)
> * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list example [4] (Use mailing
> list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

Reading online it appears there is:

1. A mailing list mode so notifications are sent out each time a post is
made (this is a user preference)

2. A reply via email mode

So experimentation is needed.

Reference:
-
https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-mailing-list-mode/46008/8
-
https://meta.discourse.org/t/set-up-reply-by-email-with-pop3-polling/14003


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On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 10:09 AM Jody Garnett 
wrote:

> I think we need someone who understand how discourse works to make an
> informed decision.
>
> If the forum fills up with questions; and the developers are minding the
> email list - it will not work out so well :) At least as described.
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 6:58 AM Vicky Vergara  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 11:43 AM Jody Garnett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Q: So if a mailing list is mirrored to discourse it operates similar to
>>> nabble used to? Is searchable etc …
>>>
>>> I don't know the details of how discourse works,
>>
>>
>>> But replies done via discourse are not sent to mailing list subscribers
>>> - so it is one way communication.
>>>
>> https://meta.discourse.org/t/create-a-read-only-mailing-list-mirror/77990
>>
>>
>>> And the thinking here is that discourse is easier for people who want to
>>> ask a specific question without subscribing to a mailing list (and getting
>>> yet more email).
>>>
>> Yes, so you can have the mirror in one category and another catergory for
>> Q
>>
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 9:07 AM Vicky Vergara  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Jody
>>>>
>>>> We are offering options
>>>>
>>>> Before:
>>>> Use mailing list
>>>>
>>>> After:
>>>> * Use mailing list and see the archives only on
>>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/
>>>> * Use mailing list and see the archives also on discourse
>>>> * Use discourse without a mailing list
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This are the possibilities regarding migration of mailing list
>>>> * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse example [1]
>>>> (Use discourse without a mailing list, but get previous conversations from
>>>> mailing list)
>>>> * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse example [2] (Use mailing
>>>> list and see the archives also on discourse)
>>>> * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list example [3]
>>>> was created by Jody (Use discourse without a mailing list)
>>>> * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list example [4] (Use
>>>> mailing list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/)
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5
>>>> [2] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13
>>>> [3]
>>>> https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-osgeo-site-feedback-category/1
>>>> [4] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/foss4g2008loc/
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Vicky
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:16 AM Jody Garnett 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was lurking in the sys admin chat as I was working on the osgeo sign
>>>>> up form. Mailing lists are not going away, but I am unclear at what is
>>>>> being offered.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jody Garnett
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:01 AM Eli Adam 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm also unclear on what is going on.  It looks like discourse
>>>>>> options are being added.  This raises questions about mailing lists.  1.
>>>>>> Are mailing lists going away?  2. Can projects choose to keep just the
>>>>>> mailing list and not add dicourse?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, Eli
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *From:* Discuss  on behalf of Vicky
>>>>>> Vergara via Discuss 
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2023 9:52 PM
>>>>>> *To:* OSGeo Discussions 
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Jody,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

I think we need someone who understand how discourse works to make an
informed decision.

If the forum fills up with questions; and the developers are minding the
email list - it will not work out so well :) At least as described.
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On Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 6:58 AM Vicky Vergara  wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 11:43 AM Jody Garnett 
> wrote:
>
>> Q: So if a mailing list is mirrored to discourse it operates similar to
>> nabble used to? Is searchable etc …
>>
>> I don't know the details of how discourse works,
>
>
>> But replies done via discourse are not sent to mailing list subscribers -
>> so it is one way communication.
>>
> https://meta.discourse.org/t/create-a-read-only-mailing-list-mirror/77990
>
>
>> And the thinking here is that discourse is easier for people who want to
>> ask a specific question without subscribing to a mailing list (and getting
>> yet more email).
>>
> Yes, so you can have the mirror in one category and another catergory for
> Q
>
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 9:07 AM Vicky Vergara  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jody
>>>
>>> We are offering options
>>>
>>> Before:
>>> Use mailing list
>>>
>>> After:
>>> * Use mailing list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/
>>> * Use mailing list and see the archives also on discourse
>>> * Use discourse without a mailing list
>>>
>>>
>>> This are the possibilities regarding migration of mailing list
>>> * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse example [1]
>>> (Use discourse without a mailing list, but get previous conversations from
>>> mailing list)
>>> * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse example [2] (Use mailing
>>> list and see the archives also on discourse)
>>> * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list example [3]
>>> was created by Jody (Use discourse without a mailing list)
>>> * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list example [4] (Use mailing
>>> list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/)
>>>
>>> [1] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5
>>> [2] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13
>>> [3]
>>> https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-osgeo-site-feedback-category/1
>>> [4] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/foss4g2008loc/
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Vicky
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:16 AM Jody Garnett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was lurking in the sys admin chat as I was working on the osgeo sign
>>>> up form. Mailing lists are not going away, but I am unclear at what is
>>>> being offered.
>>>> --
>>>> Jody Garnett
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:01 AM Eli Adam 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm also unclear on what is going on.  It looks like discourse options
>>>>> are being added.  This raises questions about mailing lists.  1. Are
>>>>> mailing lists going away?  2. Can projects choose to keep just the mailing
>>>>> list and not add dicourse?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, Eli
>>>>> --
>>>>> *From:* Discuss  on behalf of Vicky
>>>>> Vergara via Discuss 
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2023 9:52 PM
>>>>> *To:* OSGeo Discussions 
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jody,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:31 PM Jody Garnett 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Vicky,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there any more information on what is being offered here?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not used discourse very much. What do you mean by having a
>>>>> category Can you be more clear about migrate and mirror.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Category, is like the one you created about the discourse site
>>>>> feedback.
>>>>> Mirror, is a category that mirrors the mailing list, so the mails
>>>>> received on the mailing list are also shown on discourse.
>>>>> If you "reply" to those mails using discourse, they will not be shown
>>>>> on the mailing list, as the 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

Q: So if a mailing list is mirrored to discourse it operates similar to
nabble used to? Is searchable etc …

But replies done via discourse are not sent to mailing list subscribers -
so it is one way communication.

And the thinking here is that discourse is easier for people who want to
ask a specific question without subscribing to a mailing list (and getting
yet more email).
--
Jody Garnett


On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 9:07 AM Vicky Vergara  wrote:

> Hi Jody
>
> We are offering options
>
> Before:
> Use mailing list
>
> After:
> * Use mailing list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/
> * Use mailing list and see the archives also on discourse
> * Use discourse without a mailing list
>
>
> This are the possibilities regarding migration of mailing list
> * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse example [1]  (Use
> discourse without a mailing list, but get previous conversations from
> mailing list)
> * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse example [2] (Use mailing list
> and see the archives also on discourse)
> * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list example [3] was
> created by Jody (Use discourse without a mailing list)
> * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list example [4] (Use mailing
> list and see the archives only on https://lists.osgeo.org/)
>
> [1] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/qgis/qgis-fr-user/5
> [2] https://discourse.osgeo.org/c/sac-global-category/sac/13
> [3] https://discourse.osgeo.org/t/about-the-osgeo-site-feedback-category/1
> [4] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/foss4g2008loc/
>
> Regards
> Vicky
>
> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 10:16 AM Jody Garnett 
> wrote:
>
>> I was lurking in the sys admin chat as I was working on the osgeo sign up
>> form. Mailing lists are not going away, but I am unclear at what is being
>> offered.
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 27, 2023 at 8:01 AM Eli Adam  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm also unclear on what is going on.  It looks like discourse options
>>> are being added.  This raises questions about mailing lists.  1. Are
>>> mailing lists going away?  2. Can projects choose to keep just the mailing
>>> list and not add dicourse?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Eli
>>> --
>>> *From:* Discuss  on behalf of Vicky
>>> Vergara via Discuss 
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 26, 2023 9:52 PM
>>> *To:* OSGeo Discussions 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mailing lists to discourse migration
>>>
>>> Hi Jody,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 9:31 PM Jody Garnett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Vicky,
>>>
>>> Is there any more information on what is being offered here?
>>>
>>> I have not used discourse very much. What do you mean by having a
>>> category Can you be more clear about migrate and mirror.
>>>
>>>
>>> Category, is like the one you created about the discourse site feedback.
>>> Mirror, is a category that mirrors the mailing list, so the mails
>>> received on the mailing list are also shown on discourse.
>>> If you "reply" to those mails using discourse, they will not be shown on
>>> the mailing list, as the mirror does not send mails to the mailing list.
>>> The reply that will be shown is the one done using mail.
>>>
>>>
>>> Will the existing list of email subscribers be part of migrating a
>>> mailing list
>>>
>>>
>>> When migrating subscribers are also migrated and are "staged users", and
>>> they can log in using ldap, or github account.
>>> If the mail of their log in matches, the staged users get assigned to
>>> the person that logged in.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Vicky
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 1:07 PM Vicky Vergara via Discuss <
>>> discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello all
>>>
>>> We are ready to migrate mailing lists to discourse,
>>> * Have the mailing list migrated completely to discourse
>>> * Have a mirror of the mailing in discourse
>>> * Have a category on discourse and not have a mailing list
>>> * Opt to not migrate or mirror the mailing list
>>>
>>> A comprehensive list of mailing lists can be found here (not including
>>> private mailing lists):
>>> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo
>>>
>>> You need to open a ticket to hav

[OSGeo-Discuss] osgeo sponsorship opportunities requires input from projects / events / committees

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

Dear all,

Reaching out as a counter point to the osgeo budget 2024
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2024> call (which committees and
projects have responded to right?)

OSGeo budget is always intended to be part of the picture, with financial
support also being gathered from the community. With that in mind we like
to highlight community sponsorship opportunities. Specifically seeking to
present ideas and suggestions in January as organizations put together
their marketing budget for 2024.

Here are some prior years:

   -
   https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/osgeo-sponsorship-opportunities-2021/

   -
   https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/osgeo-sponsorship-opportunities-2020/



I know many projects have standing pages describing sponsorship or donation:

   - http://www.zoo-project.org/new/Get%20involved/Sponsorship
   -
   
https://www.qgis.org/en/site/getinvolved/governance/sustaining_members/sustaining_members.html#qgis-sustaining-memberships
   - When looking at these pages I would ideally like to see a reminder for
   your patrons to be cross listed to osgeo sponsorship page
   <https://www.osgeo.org/about/how-to-become-a-sponsor/>


While I can hunt some of these links down; I do not wish to miss anyone!

Please reply to this email with a link to share:

   - I will share a draft of the news item before publishing
   - Anyone with an OSGeo UserID should be able to make news items; so if
   your committee / project / event has not setup sponsorship yet you can
   announce later when such information is available.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Cyber Resilience Act staying informed on updates

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

Even,

I think we will need to let this rest for a bit. As I understand it each
bullet point on this topic has been shared; and they wrote some
clarifications elsewhere about what they intended.

I now saw a photo online and those two quotes are actually all there is to
work with.

> the provision of free and open-source software products with digital
elements that are not monetised by their manufacturers is not considered a
commercial activity

The first bullet point appears to acknowledge that going after
organizations like osgeo with no income is not going to be effective.

However it opens the door to abuse, using open source to disrupt -
commoditize a market that supports a competitor for example.

> The mere circumstances under which the product has been developed, or how
the development has been financed should therefore not be taken into
account when determining the commercial or non-commercial nature of

This seems to be a response to the tension between closed source being
developed in private and open source being developed in public. Think
focusing on releases rather than a public repository or release candidates.


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On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 9:49 AM Even Rouault 
wrote:

> Hi Jody,
>
> thanks for the update.
>
> The clarification of point 3 is still fuzzy to me. What do they actually
> mean by "monetised by manufacturers". Is monetizing only when the software
> is open source but people have to pay to use it on SaaS or similar models ?
> Otherwise if it is about money being involved in the making of the open
> source software, then that contradicts the second point that how the
> development was financed shouldn't be taken into account to determine
> commercial activity... Is consulting about open source software
> "monetizing" it ... ?
>
> Even
> Le 06/12/2023 à 16:09, Jody Garnett via Discuss a écrit :
>
> Follow up to November discussion and blog post
> <https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/eu-cyber-resilience-act/> asking
> OSGeo community to be informed.
>
>
>1. At the end November Europe lawmakers agreed on something:
>
> https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/11/30/cyber-resilience-act-council-and-parliament-strike-a-deal-on-security-requirements-for-digital-products/
>
>
>Free and open source was so far down the priority list that the press
>release does not even mention it.
>
>
>
>1. Next there were assurances that free and open-source community
>concerns were addressed:
>
> https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20231106IPR09007/cyber-resilience-act-agreement-with-council-to-boost-digital-products-security
>
>
>The quote did indicate how our concerns were addressed:
>
>> We have ensured support for micro and small enterprises and better
>involvement of stakeholders, and addressed the concerns of the open-source
>community, while keeping an ambitious European dimension.
>
>
>
>1. This week I can find a articles providing clarifications that have
>been added:
>https://openforumeurope.org/eu-cyber-resilience-act-takes-a-leap-forward/
>
>
>Two clarifications:
>
>> the provision of free and open-source software products with digital
>elements that are not monetised by their manufacturers is not considered a
>commercial activity
>
>> The mere circumstances under which the product has been developed,
>or how the development has been financed should therefore not be taken into
>account when determining the commercial or non-commercial nature of [making
>free and open-source software available on the market].
>
>
> —
> Jody
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Cyber Resilience Act staying informed on updates

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

 Thanks for the context and setting expectations.
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On Dec 8, 2023 at 12:57:53 AM, Luí­s Moreira de Sousa <
luis.de.so...@protonmail.ch> wrote:

> Dear Jody,
>
> thank you for the update. The last "trilogue" took place on the 30th of
> November and OSS was finally considered. A final document is now closed and
> will proceed through the successive steps towards approval. The CRA will
> come into two force stepwise as discussed before, but now on different
> dates: first tier in January of 2026 and fully in January of 2027.
>
> Various rumours have emmanated out of the last "trilogue", sometimes
> conflicting. In truth the final document is not public, a clear
> understanding of its implications will not emerge before then. There are
> claims that Microsoft's concerns regarding distribution via code forges
> were addressed, but in parallel software stewards such as OSGeo will still
> be required to some form of compliance.
>
> This situation is certainly frustrating, but there is no point in
> speculating before the complete Act is made fully public.
>
> Best regards.
>
> --
> Luís
> On Wednesday, December 6th, 2023 at 4:09 PM, Jody Garnett via Discuss <
> discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>
> Follow up to November discussion and blog post
> <https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/eu-cyber-resilience-act/> asking
> OSGeo community to be informed.
>
>
>1. At the end November Europe lawmakers agreed on something:
>
> https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/11/30/cyber-resilience-act-council-and-parliament-strike-a-deal-on-security-requirements-for-digital-products/
>
>Free and open source was so far down the priority list that the press
>release does not even mention it.
>
>
>
>1. Next there were assurances that free and open-source community
>concerns were addressed:
>
> https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20231106IPR09007/cyber-resilience-act-agreement-with-council-to-boost-digital-products-security
>
>The quote did indicate how our concerns were addressed:
>
>> We have ensured support for micro and small enterprises and better
>involvement of stakeholders, and addressed the concerns of the open-source
>community, while keeping an ambitious European dimension.
>
>
>
>1. This week I can find a articles providing clarifications that have
>been added:
>https://openforumeurope.org/eu-cyber-resilience-act-takes-a-leap-forward/
>
>Two clarifications:
>
>> the provision of free and open-source software products with digital
>elements that are not monetised by their manufacturers is not considered a
>commercial activity
>
>> The mere circumstances under which the product has been developed,
>or how the development has been financed should therefore not be taken into
>account when determining the commercial or non-commercial nature of [making
>free and open-source software available on the market].
>
>
> —
> Jody
>
>
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Follow up to November discussion and blog post
 asking
OSGeo community to be informed.


   1. At the end November Europe lawmakers agreed on something:
   
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2023/11/30/cyber-resilience-act-council-and-parliament-strike-a-deal-on-security-requirements-for-digital-products/


   Free and open source was so far down the priority list that the press
   release does not even mention it.



   1. Next there were assurances that free and open-source community
   concerns were addressed:
   
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/press-room/20231106IPR09007/cyber-resilience-act-agreement-with-council-to-boost-digital-products-security


   The quote did indicate how our concerns were addressed:

   > We have ensured support for micro and small enterprises and better
   involvement of stakeholders, and addressed the concerns of the open-source
   community, while keeping an ambitious European dimension.



   1. This week I can find a articles providing clarifications that have
   been added:
   https://openforumeurope.org/eu-cyber-resilience-act-takes-a-leap-forward/


   Two clarifications:

   > the provision of free and open-source software products with digital
   elements that are not monetised by their manufacturers is not considered a
   commercial activity

   > The mere circumstances under which the product has been developed, or
   how the development has been financed should therefore not be taken into
   account when determining the commercial or non-commercial nature of [making
   free and open-source software available on the market].


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] proposed security initiative seeking service providers for 2024

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 I am going to need a few interested parties before annoying the board with
a budget request 

Anybody interested? I know planning ahead is tough ...
--
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On Nov 22, 2023 at 2:21:10 AM, Jody Garnett  wrote:

> Last year I proposed a "security initiative
> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Security_Initiative>" as I was
> encountering security agencies and researchers who were ... increasingly
> demanding.
>
> With the forthcoming "cyber resilience act" (and other regulations world
> wide) I anticipate this topic will be of renewed interest in 2024.
>
> I am seeking other service providers to work on this topic. Emphasis on
> providing a functional response for OSGeo projects (rather than lobby /
> politics).
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Release of mago 3DTiler, an open source OGC 3D Tiles converter!

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 Congrats!

I look forward to seeing this listed on the  http://osgeo.org/projects/ list
soon!
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On Dec 1, 2023 at 3:09:02 PM, 신상희(Sanghee Shin) via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
>
>
> I’m very happy to announce this great news that my company Gaia3D, Inc.(
> www.gaia3d.com) has released mago 3DTiler, an open source OGC 3D Tiles
> converter, to celebrate FOSS4G-Asia 2023 Seoul!
>
>
>
> Github: https://github.com/Gaia3D/mago-3d-tiler
>
> Sample Page: https://seoul.gaia3d.com:10903
>
>
>
> mago 3DTiler isn’t just a converter; developed with Java, this open-source
> marvel stands as a beacon for flexibility and performance in the world of
> 3D data conversion.
>
>
>
> *Key Features:​*
>
> * Multi-Format Mastery: Effortlessly convert an array of 3D formats,
> including 3DS, OBJ, FBX, Collada DAE, glTF , IFC and more. ​
>
> * Point Cloud Precision: Bring your detailed point cloud data (LAS, LAZ)
> into the fold with pinpoint accuracy.​
>
> * 2D to 3D Extrusion: Turn 2D geospatial data (ESRI SHP, GeoJSON) into
> detailed 3D extrusion models, breathing life into flat representations.​
>
> * On-The-Fly CRS Conversion: Leverage the power of multi-threading and
> on-the-fly coordinate conversion with comprehensive PCS and GCS support via
> the Proj4 library.​
>
>
>
> We expect many contributions and participations from our community.
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> 감사합니다.
>
> 신상희
> ---
> Shin, Sanghee
> Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company
> www.gaia3d.com
>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] proposed security initiative seeking service providers for 2024

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Last year I proposed a "security initiative
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Security_Initiative>" as I was
encountering security agencies and researchers who were ... increasingly
demanding.

With the forthcoming "cyber resilience act" (and other regulations world
wide) I anticipate this topic will be of renewed interest in 2024.

I am seeking other service providers to work on this topic. Emphasis on
providing a functional response for OSGeo projects (rather than lobby /
politics).
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Cyber Resilience Act statement

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My understand is that the time to influence has largely passed (but at
least some good feedback is now going to be included).

We will be in a better position to plan after November 8th, and then again
when the law goes into effect.

Some personal notes and observations:

* The public feedback understandably focuses on liability for individuals
and organizations that contribute to free and open source. It is my hope
that projects can be sheltered by OSGeo, with the foundation allowing risk
to be shared, rather than simply excluding contributors from Europe (or
having contributors from Europe exclude themselves).

* I am curious if this will be like GPDR and have a world wide impact on
service providers, software and websites (just because they can be accessed
from Europe and are thus "published" into the european market and subject
to regulation).

* To be successful in helping projects face CRA requirements OSGeo will
have revise our project incubation requirements. It is rare for OSGeo to
play such an active role. The last time this was done was done to implement
code-of-conduct policies (which was also a response to liability risk).

* I expect OSGeo benefit from better funding/participation to help projects
meet CRA requirements. As a community, for whatever reason, we struggle to
talk plainly about money.

* It is awkward that service providers / organizations / companies do not
have great representation in our community. Collaborating on topics like
the CRA may be an opportunity for OSGeo to strengthen these relationships
(and to strengthen relationships between service providers).

* It is interesting that the CRA is strongly aligned with one of OSGeo's
cherished beliefs: that project governance is best shared.  The revised
text appears to acknowledge projects with a decentralized decision making,
while projects managed by a single developer or company require full
compliance. Having shared governance is also a requirement for OSGeo
projects (part of our history of being adverse to vendor lock-in).

* Many FOSS4G projects are managed by a single individual or organization.
Seeking out partnerships to avoid being governed by a single entity, or
joining the OSGeo foundation as a project to take advantage of reduced
requirements, may be a sensible response.

* OSGeo community projects are endorsed by OSGeo, but do not have a formal
leadership relationship with OSGeo. We may need to revisit this program in
2024 strictly from a liability perspective.

* I feel that this regulation is what success looks like for free and
open-source. Regulation in Europe is not isolated, as there is also
regulation taking shape in the US and other markets.

* It looks like some of the more annoying regulations may be required only
for vulnerabilities that are actively under attack.  Security experts are
already speaking up on why ideas like informing the government within 24
hours is a terrible idea.

We will learn more next week,
Jody


On Fri, Nov 3, 2023 at 12:35 AM Luí­s Moreira de Sousa <
luis.de.so...@protonmail.ch> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> thank you to the board for going through with this initiative. While it
> may seem there is little time left to influence the process, it is still
> very important to let your MEPs know of your concerns. We all benefit if
> the open source community at large makes it clear it is sentient of
> legislative initiatives and willing to engage.
>
> Regards.
>
>
> --
> Luís
>
>
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>
> --- Original Message ---
> On Thursday, November 2nd, 2023 at 8:17 PM, Jody Garnett via Discuss <
> discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> A short statement from OSGeo is now available to share:
> https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/eu-cyber-resilience-act/
>
> Thanks to OSGeo board and Simone Giannecchini for working on this
> statement.
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>
>
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Dear All,

A short statement from OSGeo is now available to share:
https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/eu-cyber-resilience-act/

Thanks to OSGeo board and Simone Giannecchini for working on this
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[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoTools 30.0 released

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GeoTools 30.0 has been released  - more details (and a fun diagram) in
the release
announcement
<http://geotoolsnews.blogspot.com/2023/10/geotools-300-released.html>.  The
release is available for download and directly from maven.

This update features an api-break due to the refactor of the org.opengis
package to org.geotools.api package (along with associated cleanup).
The upgrade
instructions
<https://docs.geotools.org/stable/userguide/welcome/upgrade.html> include a
well-tested script you may use on your codebase.  We would like to thank
Ian Turton, Andrea Aime and Jody Garnett for completing this activity, and
everyone who helped test the release candidate.

Thanks to Peter Smith and Jody Garnett for making this release.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] repo.osgeo.org contains empty files

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I would recommend invalidating your cache and let it repopulate.

Jody

On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 10:50 PM Frank Gasdorf 
wrote:

> Interesting, we use it in Nexus as a proxy repo and you were right, these
> zero-size jars were present in our cache as well.
>
> How did you cleaned-up the cache? Search on filesystem and remove files
> with this attributes and updated index within nexus afterwards?
>
> Your help is much appreciated
>
> --
> Frank
>
> Am Mo., 11. Sept. 2023 um 16:48 Uhr schrieb Jody Garnett <
> jody.garn...@gmail.com>:
>
>> I was only asking as if you have a mirror it would of been filled up with
>> junk and need to have its cache of jars cleaned up.
>>
>> When building directlt it is best to have the fewest number of maven
>> repositories listed (as each one is checked in turn).
>>
>> I am not sure why maven pom.xml does not allow an include/exclude filter
>> on repositories…
>>
>> Jody
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 2:08 AM Brogli, Alexander <
>> alexander.bro...@ebp.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Answer:
>>>
>>> We do build it directly and dont mirror it (so far, maybe we should, at
>>> least to reduce some traffic for osgeo). So for us the fix indeed worked.
>>>
>>> Thanks & Regards
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Von:* Jody Garnett 
>>> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. September 2023 00:59
>>> *An:* Brogli, Alexander 
>>> *Cc:* discuss@lists.osgeo.org ;
>>> fg...@users.sourceforge.net 
>>>
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] repo.osgeo.org contains empty files
>>>
>>>
>>> *[EXTERNE E-MAIL]* Klicke nicht auf Links und öffne keine angehängten
>>> Dateien, wenn du die Absenderin oder den Absender nicht kennst.
>>> Question:
>>>
>>> Are you building against repo osgeo "release" directly in your maven
>>> build?
>>> If so you should indeed be fixed 
>>>
>>> Or have you setup a mirror or nexus repository of your own that caches
>>> repo osgeo "releases"?
>>> In this case you may need to clear your cache (to get rid of any zero
>>> sized jars).
>>>
>>> I am curious how many folks are running downstream caches or mirrors and
>>> may be affected ...
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2023 at 12:42:09 PM, "Brogli, Alexander" <
>>> alexander.bro...@ebp.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Thanks for creating the ticket. I haven't created one, since I don't
>>> have a osgeo ID and am still waiting for a reply to my mantra request. I've
>>> checked, it seems we can regularly pull from repo.osgeo.org again, so I
>>> can confirm the problem seems to be resolved for us, thanks a lot!
>>>
>>> Regards, Alex
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Von:* Jody Garnett 
>>> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 7. September 2023 21:04
>>> *An:* fg...@users.sourceforge.net 
>>> *Cc:* Brogli, Alexander ;
>>> discuss@lists.osgeo.org 
>>> *Betreff:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] repo.osgeo.org contains empty files
>>>
>>>
>>> *[EXTERNE E-MAIL]* Klicke nicht auf Links und öffne keine angehängten
>>> Dateien, wenn du die Absenderin oder den Absender nicht kennst.
>>> I have gone ahead and created a ticket there:
>>> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2978
>>>
>>> I did not see you report the ticket yet, and it is capturing feedback on
>>> multiple channels.
>>>
>>> I have found the problem with geonetwork-cache being setup to cache
>>> files stored in a GitHub repository by geonetwork 2.x series.
>>> GitHub must of turned off access in this manner yesterday, resulting in
>>> a lot of time-outs and zero sized files being saved.
>>>
>>> The geonetwork-cache has been removed from release configuration; and I
>>> hope normal service has been restored? Please CONFIRM 
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>>
>>>- There is a risk that other repositories have saved these zero
>>>sized files and will need to clear their cache of OSGeo, and lazily 
>>> rebuild
>>>it again.
>>>- Normal maven builds do not have any way to select what jar to
>>>retrieve from different repositories. Indeed they attempt to contact each
>>>repository in turn, checking for every jar.
>>>So it is expect that repo.osgeo.org releases 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] repo.osgeo.org contains empty files

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

I was only asking as if you have a mirror it would of been filled up with
junk and need to have its cache of jars cleaned up.

When building directlt it is best to have the fewest number of maven
repositories listed (as each one is checked in turn).

I am not sure why maven pom.xml does not allow an include/exclude filter on
repositories…

Jody

On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 2:08 AM Brogli, Alexander 
wrote:

> Answer:
>
> We do build it directly and dont mirror it (so far, maybe we should, at
> least to reduce some traffic for osgeo). So for us the fix indeed worked.
>
> Thanks & Regards
> Alex
>
> ------
> *Von:* Jody Garnett 
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 8. September 2023 00:59
> *An:* Brogli, Alexander 
> *Cc:* discuss@lists.osgeo.org ;
> fg...@users.sourceforge.net 
>
> *Betreff:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] repo.osgeo.org contains empty files
>
>
> *[EXTERNE E-MAIL]* Klicke nicht auf Links und öffne keine angehängten
> Dateien, wenn du die Absenderin oder den Absender nicht kennst.
> Question:
>
> Are you building against repo osgeo "release" directly in your maven build?
> If so you should indeed be fixed 
>
> Or have you setup a mirror or nexus repository of your own that caches
> repo osgeo "releases"?
> In this case you may need to clear your cache (to get rid of any zero
> sized jars).
>
> I am curious how many folks are running downstream caches or mirrors and
> may be affected ...
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2023 at 12:42:09 PM, "Brogli, Alexander" <
> alexander.bro...@ebp.ch> wrote:
>
> Hello
>
> Thanks for creating the ticket. I haven't created one, since I don't have
> a osgeo ID and am still waiting for a reply to my mantra request. I've
> checked, it seems we can regularly pull from repo.osgeo.org again, so I
> can confirm the problem seems to be resolved for us, thanks a lot!
>
> Regards, Alex
>
> --
> *Von:* Jody Garnett 
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 7. September 2023 21:04
> *An:* fg...@users.sourceforge.net 
> *Cc:* Brogli, Alexander ; discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> 
> *Betreff:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] repo.osgeo.org contains empty files
>
>
> *[EXTERNE E-MAIL]* Klicke nicht auf Links und öffne keine angehängten
> Dateien, wenn du die Absenderin oder den Absender nicht kennst.
> I have gone ahead and created a ticket there:
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2978
>
> I did not see you report the ticket yet, and it is capturing feedback on
> multiple channels.
>
> I have found the problem with geonetwork-cache being setup to cache files
> stored in a GitHub repository by geonetwork 2.x series.
> GitHub must of turned off access in this manner yesterday, resulting in a
> lot of time-outs and zero sized files being saved.
>
> The geonetwork-cache has been removed from release configuration; and I
> hope normal service has been restored? Please CONFIRM 
>
> Notes:
>
>- There is a risk that other repositories have saved these zero sized
>files and will need to clear their cache of OSGeo, and lazily rebuild it
>again.
>- Normal maven builds do not have any way to select what jar to
>retrieve from different repositories. Indeed they attempt to contact each
>repository in turn, checking for every jar.
>So it is expect that repo.osgeo.org releases would field requests for
>all manner of content as we have seen. This is one case where gradle offers
>better control ...
>- I will reach out to the core-geonetwork project and determine how
>their build can be restored also.
>
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2023 at 7:39:38 AM, Frank Gasdorf 
> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I recently stumble about this problem to and my investigation is as
> follows:
>
> * you a company uses a repository manager and has osger repo as a proxy
> repo configured AND
> * and internal artefact has been request but is not avaliable in internal
> repositories, that a http get is set to osgeo repo as well
> * this leads to enties like that with size 0 for each artefact
>
>
> IMHO it seems to be an issue in nexus configuration and I investigate how
> to configure filter for proxe repositories in Nexus.
>
> Once you have a trac issue id, let us know
> --
> Frank
>
> Am Do., 7. Sept. 2023 um 15:22 Uhr schrieb Jody Garnett via Discuss <
> discuss@lists.osgeo.org>:
>
> This should be reported to the trac issues tracker, for the system admin
> committee.
>
> I help manage the repo a bit, I wonder where the size zero files come
> from? We may be able to check if they were uploaded or fetched from a cache
> of an exte

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] repo.osgeo.org contains empty files

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

 Question:

Are you building against repo osgeo "release" directly in your maven build?
If so you should indeed be fixed 

Or have you setup a mirror or nexus repository of your own that caches repo
osgeo "releases"?
In this case you may need to clear your cache (to get rid of any zero sized
jars).

I am curious how many folks are running downstream caches or mirrors and
may be affected ...
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On Sep 7, 2023 at 12:42:09 PM, "Brogli, Alexander" 
wrote:

> Hello
>
> Thanks for creating the ticket. I haven't created one, since I don't have
> a osgeo ID and am still waiting for a reply to my mantra request. I've
> checked, it seems we can regularly pull from repo.osgeo.org again, so I
> can confirm the problem seems to be resolved for us, thanks a lot!
>
> Regards, Alex
>
> --
> *Von:* Jody Garnett 
> *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 7. September 2023 21:04
> *An:* fg...@users.sourceforge.net 
> *Cc:* Brogli, Alexander ; discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> 
> *Betreff:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] repo.osgeo.org contains empty files
>
>
> *[EXTERNE E-MAIL]* Klicke nicht auf Links und öffne keine angehängten
> Dateien, wenn du die Absenderin oder den Absender nicht kennst.
> I have gone ahead and created a ticket there:
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2978
>
> I did not see you report the ticket yet, and it is capturing feedback on
> multiple channels.
>
> I have found the problem with geonetwork-cache being setup to cache files
> stored in a GitHub repository by geonetwork 2.x series.
> GitHub must of turned off access in this manner yesterday, resulting in a
> lot of time-outs and zero sized files being saved.
>
> The geonetwork-cache has been removed from release configuration; and I
> hope normal service has been restored? Please CONFIRM 
>
> Notes:
>
>- There is a risk that other repositories have saved these zero sized
>files and will need to clear their cache of OSGeo, and lazily rebuild it
>again.
>- Normal maven builds do not have any way to select what jar to
>retrieve from different repositories. Indeed they attempt to contact each
>repository in turn, checking for every jar.
>So it is expect that repo.osgeo.org releases would field requests for
>all manner of content as we have seen. This is one case where gradle offers
>    better control ...
>- I will reach out to the core-geonetwork project and determine how
>their build can be restored also.
>
>
> --
> Jody Garnett
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2023 at 7:39:38 AM, Frank Gasdorf 
> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I recently stumble about this problem to and my investigation is as
> follows:
>
> * you a company uses a repository manager and has osger repo as a proxy
> repo configured AND
> * and internal artefact has been request but is not avaliable in internal
> repositories, that a http get is set to osgeo repo as well
> * this leads to enties like that with size 0 for each artefact
>
>
> IMHO it seems to be an issue in nexus configuration and I investigate how
> to configure filter for proxe repositories in Nexus.
>
> Once you have a trac issue id, let us know
> --
> Frank
>
> Am Do., 7. Sept. 2023 um 15:22 Uhr schrieb Jody Garnett via Discuss <
> discuss@lists.osgeo.org>:
>
> This should be reported to the trac issues tracker, for the system admin
> committee.
>
> I help manage the repo a bit, I wonder where the size zero files come
> from? We may be able to check if they were uploaded or fetched from a cache
> of an external repo.
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 5:54 AM Brogli, Alexander via Discuss <
> discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> We're thankful consumers of osgeo's maven repository, though this morning
> we noticed that empty files are pulled. Inspecting certain cases, we saw
> that since this morning files with size 0 seem to be in the repo, e.g. the
> files here
> https://repo.osgeo.org/service/rest/repository/browse/release/org/jboss/jboss-parent/36/
> .
>
> Do you know if there's a better place / mailing list to post this inquiry,
> or if the responsible persons are aware of the issue?
>
> Thanks & regards
> Alex
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] repo.osgeo.org contains empty files

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 I have gone ahead and created a ticket there:
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/2978

I did not see you report the ticket yet, and it is capturing feedback on
multiple channels.

I have found the problem with geonetwork-cache being setup to cache files
stored in a GitHub repository by geonetwork 2.x series.
GitHub must of turned off access in this manner yesterday, resulting in a
lot of time-outs and zero sized files being saved.

The geonetwork-cache has been removed from release configuration; and I
hope normal service has been restored? Please CONFIRM 

Notes:

   - There is a risk that other repositories have saved these zero sized
   files and will need to clear their cache of OSGeo, and lazily rebuild it
   again.
   - Normal maven builds do not have any way to select what jar to retrieve
   from different repositories. Indeed they attempt to contact each repository
   in turn, checking for every jar.
   So it is expect that repo.osgeo.org releases would field requests for
   all manner of content as we have seen. This is one case where gradle offers
   better control ...
   - I will reach out to the core-geonetwork project and determine how
   their build can be restored also.


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On Sep 7, 2023 at 7:39:38 AM, Frank Gasdorf 
wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I recently stumble about this problem to and my investigation is as
> follows:
>
> * you a company uses a repository manager and has osger repo as a proxy
> repo configured AND
> * and internal artefact has been request but is not avaliable in internal
> repositories, that a http get is set to osgeo repo as well
> * this leads to enties like that with size 0 for each artefact
>
>
> IMHO it seems to be an issue in nexus configuration and I investigate how
> to configure filter for proxe repositories in Nexus.
>
> Once you have a trac issue id, let us know
> --
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>
> Am Do., 7. Sept. 2023 um 15:22 Uhr schrieb Jody Garnett via Discuss <
> discuss@lists.osgeo.org>:
>
>> This should be reported to the trac issues tracker, for the system admin
>> committee.
>>
>> I help manage the repo a bit, I wonder where the size zero files come
>> from? We may be able to check if they were uploaded or fetched from a cache
>> of an external repo.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 5:54 AM Brogli, Alexander via Discuss <
>> discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> We're thankful consumers of osgeo's maven repository, though this
>>> morning we noticed that empty files are pulled. Inspecting certain cases,
>>> we saw that since this morning files with size 0 seem to be in the repo,
>>> e.g. the files here
>>> https://repo.osgeo.org/service/rest/repository/browse/release/org/jboss/jboss-parent/36/
>>> .
>>>
>>> Do you know if there's a better place / mailing list to post this
>>> inquiry, or if the responsible persons are aware of the issue?
>>>
>>> Thanks & regards
>>> Alex
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[OSGeo-Discuss] The best / shortest CRA response

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OSI has provided one of the best / shortest responses to the CRA here:
https://blog.opensource.org/diverse-open-source-uses-highlight-need-for-precision-in-cyber-resilience-act/

If you have not yet read a response, this is the one to read.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] repo.osgeo.org contains empty files

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

This should be reported to the trac issues tracker, for the system admin
committee.

I help manage the repo a bit, I wonder where the size zero files come from?
We may be able to check if they were uploaded or fetched from a cache of an
external repo.

On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 5:54 AM Brogli, Alexander via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> We're thankful consumers of osgeo's maven repository, though this morning
> we noticed that empty files are pulled. Inspecting certain cases, we saw
> that since this morning files with size 0 seem to be in the repo, e.g. the
> files here
> https://repo.osgeo.org/service/rest/repository/browse/release/org/jboss/jboss-parent/36/
> .
>
> Do you know if there's a better place / mailing list to post this inquiry,
> or if the responsible persons are aware of the issue?
>
> Thanks & regards
> Alex
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] EU Cyber Resilience Act - potential impacts on open geospatial software?

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>
> Indeed this is just one way to respond,

That's a major issue. Members of steering committees are unpaid
> volunteers. They are more or less active. With our current organization,
> they are not in a capacity to face regulation requirements. Basically
> that would mean that projects should have salaried members, at least
> part-time, to do that.


Good idea.

Or rotate through PSC members with a small contract to monitor
communication - say three months at a stretch.

So we would be expecting some kind of sustaining sponsorship from business
such as yours. In trade you get vacations :)

By pooling resources we cover for each other. And by acting I behalf of
OSGeo we are not indirect line of fire as individuals.

Advocacy rant mode on

Pretty much the whole reason to setup a software foundation folks. I love
that OSGeo allows us to set up one software foundation (rather than each
project having to do this work themselves.

OSGeo has a *extremely* low “bronze” sponsorship threshold of $500 USD
(which goes down to $375 for reciting sponsors). I have a non active
company how2map which has been sponsoring at this level for some years. So
I am doing my best to put my money (and volunteer capacity) where my speech
is.

Advocacy rant mode off.

I am going to go back to being quiet. Thank you for your response Even.

Jody

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] EU Cyber Resilience Act - potential impacts on open geospatial software?

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Even:

Thank you very much for responding - I want to make the case that you are
not alone (and will get vacations). Even with regulations …

If you are charging for an enhancement - it is development work one and
done.  It is probably in your contract to meet the requirements (docs and
QA) to get the change into the open source codebase.

If you wish to offer (or if the customer requires) support for a period of
time they can negotiate that with you.

However you do not have to be the distributor - the customer self-serves
from the open-source distribution. In this case the project - specifically
the steering committee (acting on behalf of osgeo) are on the hook for a
lot of these reg requirements.

This could be good for osgeo (for this specific case) in terms of
encouraging code contributions (rather than forks and customizations).
OSGeo as a software foundation should be able to shelter small and medium
business (perhaps negotiating some participation to make the story work).

Jody

On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 12:09 PM Even Rouault via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

>
> Le 18/08/2023 à 20:50, Jody Garnett via Discuss a écrit :
> > Thanks for setting that up, can we add it to the website ad an event
> > or news item? That way it can be shared on social media and email lists.
> >
> > The missing voice on this discussion (and osgeo in general) is the
> > small and medium business owners.
> >
> > A whole bunch of the concern is the impact on small and medium
> > business owners. We have not yet heard from our service providers and
> > sponsors on this subject.
>
> I count as a small business owner, actually a one man company, and
> service provider and I'm indeed really concerned by the CRA.
>
> Seeing obligations of reporting security events within a 24h delay makes
> me believe that I will have no right for any vacations The whole
> text seems to have being written with quite large software companies in
> mind with sufficiently big teams so they can organize on-call teams.
>
> It is also completely inadequate to make a service provider responsible
> for the whole codebase: if I charge a customer for an enhancement in a
> part of the software, is it legitimate to make bear what happens in
> other places of the code base I may possibly not have written ? The text
> possibly doesn't imply this (but then it becomes fun to determine who is
> responsible to respond to a given security event), but such scenarios
> specific to open source decentralized model are not detailed, so we are
> in the legal uncertainty domain...
>
> Also the obligations linked to the lifetime of a version are written
> with companies that have regular income from licensing fees and can
> actually take a part of them to organize security monitoring and
> response. Service providers don't necessarily have recurring income
> sources linked to a software, given that they charge for the labor (one
> time event) but not usage (long-term event).  What happens if I'm no
> longer involved with a software: am I still liable for what I wrote in
> the past, and people still use for free, but I should still bear the
> costs while no longer getting any related revenue ?
>
> Even
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] EU Cyber Resilience Act - potential impacts on open geospatial software?

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Thanks for setting that up, can we add it to the website ad an event or
news item? That way it can be shared on social media and email lists.

The missing voice on this discussion (and osgeo in general) is the small
and medium business owners.

A whole bunch of the concern is the impact on small and medium business
owners. We have not yet heard from our service providers and sponsors on
this subject.

As a North American I have concern(s) and care - but am not sure how to
support this process.

Jody

On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 3:39 AM Angelos Tzotsos via Board <
bo...@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We are planning to make a community meeting about the EU CRA, so we can
> discuss our action plan forward.
>
> The meeting is planned for Tuesday 22 Aug 13:00 UTC in our Jitsi room:
> https://meet.jit.si/OSGeo
>
> Best,
> Angelos
>
> On 7/22/23 00:20, Adam Steer via Discuss wrote:
> > Hi OSGeo
> >
> > The European Union's proposed Cyber Resilience Act has just come to the
> > attention of many non-EU folks as a potential dampener on open source
> > geospatial software development and usage. A summary from GitHub is here
> > (thanks Marco Bernasocchi for pointing it out):
> >
> >
> https://github.blog/2023-07-12-no-cyber-resilience-without-open-source-sustainability/
> >
> >   It's being discussed in the OSGeo board, and some responses from other
> > open source organisations have already been made, for example:
> >
> https://newsroom.eclipse.org/news/announcements/open-letter-european-commission-cyber-resilience-act
> >
> > It would be great to hear your thoughts on the impact of the proposed
> > legislation on open source geospatial software development across the
> > globe  - so we can form an appropriate community response as soon as
> > possible. What are your thoughts?
> >
> > Yes, we're late in gettung our attention on to this. Hopefully not too
> > late.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Adam
> >
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> > OSGeo director
> >
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] EU Cyber Resilience Act - potential impacts on open geospatial software?

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 Dear all,

A lot of very good thoughts on this thread (and online).

I have been thinking a bit more on this. As Luís highlights while there are
steps to take to be clear with our license the result would end up not
being useful / legal in Europe (which defeats OSGeo vision of empowering
everyone with free and open source geospatial goodness).

a) The CRA treating everything as a supplier arrangement is a problem. It
is disrespectful to be treated as a supplied rather than a respected
commons (or even labour.)

If we borrow a tool from labour - what would adopting a work-to-rule
practice for Europe?

   - Delay downloads by two weeks (simulation of anticipated certification
   overhead)
   - Release source code to Europe but not the digital downloads (respect
   Free and Open Source license and provide a taste of VPN future)


Aside: I use the word disrespectful to help indicated the violation of the
social norms asserted with our community. We should be offended that after
creating so much value for Europe regulation is being setup to require more
from our community.

b) The proposed CRA certification SME to declare technology used. This
technically sets up a "dependency list" showing the open-source used by
each organization.

Could this be used in a Robbin Hood manner to direct funding where needed:

   - Use such insight to support projects that are underfunded for their
   level of importance to European Economy
   - Use tax dollars, or certification fees from industry, to scale funding
   to match use of free and open source technologies


Aside: This is what I mean about seeking economic solutions for the root
cause (underfunded open-source projects used in critical or economically
important systems).

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On Aug 3, 2023 at 12:43:59 AM, Luí­s Moreira de Sousa via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> hours ago, Wordpress, Joomla, Drupal and TYPO3 published an open letter on
> the CRA painting a scenario similar to the worst case I put forth here last
> week. Not only are FOSS projects threatened, thousands of European SMEs
> will either perish or move on to wholesale commercial software in the wake
> of this legislation. Essentially, we are speaking of the companies that
> contribute to fund OSGeo and sponsor the FOSS4G.
>
>
> https://wordpress.org/news/files/2023/08/Open_Letter_on_the_Significance_of_Free_and_Open_Source_Software_in_the_EU_s_Proposed_Cyber_Resilience_Act.pdf
>
> I am becoming increasingly concerned by this. I would exhort every charter
> member in Europe to get thoroughly informed and seek advice from trade
> guilds or unions and enterprise associations or federations.
>
> Regards,
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] EU Cyber Resilience Act - potential impacts on open geospatial software?

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 carried out during weekends and evenings due to the
> conscientiousness of those involved in the projects.
>
> From [1]: "The rules could cut the cost of cyber incidents to companies by
> as much as 290 billion euros ($289.8 billion) annually versus compliance
> costs of about 29 billion euros"
>
> If OSGeo can find a way to capture some of this value by ensuring
> compliancy and gathering funds from large organisations that use OSGeo
> projects, then this could be seen as an opportunity rather than an
> impending disaster.
>
> From the Log4js experience it seems companies are prepared to spend
> whatever it takes to resolve security issues, whilst avoiding any general
> maintenance and software update costs.
>
> Seth
>
> [1]
> https://www.reuters.com/technology/draft-eu-rules-target-smart-devices-with-cybersecurity-risks-2022-09-08/
>
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>
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2023, at 11:20 PM, Adam Steer via Discuss wrote:
>
> Hi OSGeo
>
> The European Union's proposed Cyber Resilience Act has just come to the
> attention of many non-EU folks as a potential dampener on open source
> geospatial software development and usage. A summary from GitHub is here
> (thanks Marco Bernasocchi for pointing it out):
>
>
> https://github.blog/2023-07-12-no-cyber-resilience-without-open-source-sustainability/
>
>  It's being discussed in the OSGeo board, and some responses from other
> open source organisations have already been made, for example:
> https://newsroom.eclipse.org/news/announcements/open-letter-european-commission-cyber-resilience-act
>
> It would be great to hear your thoughts on the impact of the proposed
> legislation on open source geospatial software development across the
> globe  - so we can form an appropriate community response as soon as
> possible. What are your thoughts?
>
> Yes, we're late in gettung our attention on to this. Hopefully not too
> late.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
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> OSGeo director
>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Construction ahead: refactoring to org.geotools.api

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

I do not often post on the discussion list - but this activity
<https://www.osgeo.org/opengis-harmonization/> affects many projects:

https://geotoolsnews.blogspot.com/2023/07/construction-ahead-refactoring.html

Long story short *org.opengis* packages are being refactored to
*org.geotools.api*, and a few areas of the code-base can now be simplified.
Dropping unused interfaces, etc...

While this sounds simple, it is not without risk, especially for projects
that have not yet setup a Java 11 build system.

In the open-source tradition the best way to control risk is to help out!
Please plan for:

   - Upcoming Bolsena Code Sprint
   <https://www.osgeo.org/events/bolsena-code-sprint-2023/> (lots of fun
   and also good food).
   - Testing the GeoTools 30-RC release candidate when it is made available
   at the end of the Sprint.


If you are not in a position to help out directly, OSGeo offers a sponsorship
program <https://www.osgeo.org/about/how-to-become-a-sponsor/>, that will
assist both the GeoTools library and other projects in addressing this
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Slides

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I have some slides
<https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1F1W5JxMVwyDdgDDEDP6oY_Dn0kQvk6UsiwpSaJNwnl8/edit?usp=sharing>
you can grab history / diagrams from; it is nice to see how GRASS
bootstrapped many of these organizations that are working together today.

Thank you for promoting OSGeo :)
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On Mon, Apr 10, 2023 at 4:51 PM Michele M Tobias via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
>
> I got asked to give a talk at the Monterey Bay Marine GIS Users Group
> meeting about the open source geospatial organizations – OSGeo, FOSS4G,
> OGC, etc. – and how they fit together. Has anyone got some slides or
> previous talks I could use as a reference to get started?  I feel like the
> board might have some useful stuff, but I’m not finding it. Any help would
> be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Michele
>
>
>
> *Michele Tobias, PhD*
>
> Geospatial Data Specialist
>
> DataLab: Data Science & Informatics
>
> UC Davis Library
>
>
>
> 370 Shields Library
>
> (530)752-7532
>
> mmtob...@ucdavis.edu
>
> ORCID: -0002-2954-8710 <https://orcid.org/-0002-2954-8710>
>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoServer 2.23.0 released

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The GeoServer team is pleased to share the release of GeoServer 2.23.0
<https://geoserver.org/release/2.23.0/>.

Check out the announcement
<https://geoserver.org/announcements/2023/04/05/geoserver-2-23-0-released.html>
for
details:

   - Security Considerations
   - Java 11 Minimum
   - CSS Cleanup
   - Spring Upgrade
   - Windows installer Java 11 Update
   - Feature Type Description
   - OGC CITE Fixes

This is a stable release recommended for production systems.

Thanks to everyone who helped produce and test the release candidate: Gabriel
Roldan, Andrea Aimie, Jody Garnett, Peter Rushforth, Mark Prins, and Juan
Luis Rodríguez.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Preparing annual report on the AGM slides

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I am confused. Do you mean 2023? The email says 2022, but the slides say
2023?

I guess foss4g really is happening soon - are we having the AGM at foss4g
so early in the year?
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On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 12:42 PM Vicky Vergara via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> The slides for the AGM are ready to be uploaded with the 2022 report.
> Link to media upload is WIP.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1Ev7RrX_L4fmsRPcu36Z1aMgvoRyLdOpY8dH6Pf4FTxE
>
> If you are:
> * An OSGeo project, community project
> * An OSGeo committee
> * An OSGeo initiative
> * An OSGeo local chapter
> * Did you organized an event on 2022
>
> Please:
> * Go to the presentation link
> * Ask for editor rights
> * Find your slide or create one in the appropriate section
>
> Regards
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[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoServer OGC Filter SQL Injection Vulnerabilities (CVE-2023-25158)

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

The GeoServer team has released a statement: OGC Filter Injection
Vulnerability Statement


A vulnerability has been located in the GeoTools Library that allows SQL
Injection using OGC Filter and Function expressions.

   - CVE-2023-25157 OGC Filter SQL Injection Vulnerabilities
   

(GeoServer)
   - CVE-2023-25158 OGC Filter SQL Injection Vulnerabilities
   

(GeoTools)

Patched releases:

   - GeoServer 2.22.2
   

stable release
   - GeoServer 2.21.4
   

maintenance
   - GeoServer 2.20.7
   

   - GeoServer 2.19.7
   

   - GeoServer 2.18.7
   


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board meeting summary - 12 December 2022

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Thanks for your service Michele!

The issue of trademarks is interesting; presently our incubation process
does not require participating projects to transfer any existing trademarks
to OSGeo.
Other foundations (eclipse/apache) make this a requirement of
participation; part of setting up a level playing field for everyone
participating.

I assume from the meeting notes that the board was discussing how to
support project's in obtaining a trademark for their own name / logo /
brand.
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On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 3:15 AM Adam Steer via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Hi OSGeo people, friends, neighbors
>
> The OSGeo board of directors met on 12 December 2022, making an
> out-of-schedule meeting to catch up on our agenda. Minutes are here:
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2022-12-12
>
> This was the last meeting as a director for Michele Tobias - please
> join us in thanking Michele for her wisdom and insight for the past
> two years (insert applause and cheering here). And we look forward to
> her ongoing engagement in the OSGeo community!
>
> To the meeting itself - almost half of the allocated hour was taken up
> in discussion about trademarks. As an outcome, we are generating some
> guidelines for projects about the process, and how to get support from
> OSGeo if it is something they want to do. We also discussed trademarks
> for OSGeo and FOSS4G, those are ongoing - needing careful thought and
> input from the community.
>
> Codrina has developed a template for organisations wishing to form an
> MoU with OSGeo. This will be placed on the OSGeo wiki, after which the
> board will make a motion to formally adopt it. Related to this, we are
> revising our MoU with UCGIS [1], which will be reformatted into the
> new MoU template. The GISwater organisation [2] has also requested an
> MoU, however we felt that as GISwater is now an OSGeo community
> project [3], a separate MoU is not needed.
>
> The board ratified the conference committee’s decision to fund the
> 2022 OSGeo Oceania travel grant program, after a request from the
> committee chair to do so [4]. This has been paid already.
>
> The final discussion in the allotted time was about reviving or
> creating a new OSGeo organisation in Europe. This will assist with
> funding from European organisations, and create a local focus for the
> European community.
>
> Discussion about sponsorship opportunities, and curating the to-do
> list, was pushed to the next meeting - scheduled for 29 December 2022,
> 16:00 UTC. You’re welcome to attend here:
> https://meet.jit.si/OsgeoBoard, and the agenda proposal is here:
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2022-12-29
>
> Regards,
>
> Adam Steer, on behalf of the OSGeo Board
>
>
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MOU_UCGIS
> [2] https://giswater.org/
> [3] https://www.osgeo.org/projects/giswater/
> [4]
> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2022-December/005885.html
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Canadian Chocolate

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

Okay, figured it out!

David Vick (geoserver contributor) confirms that his partner Tara loves the
canadian classic "cadbury crunchie" (cite 1
<https://cottagelife.com/general/10-chocolate-bars-youll-only-find-in-canada/>
or 2
<https://babbletop.com/top-10-canadian-candy-bars-america-wished-they-had/>
lists).
If you are interested in a regional chocolat exchange visit the geocat
booth at foss4g :)
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2022 at 19:28, Jody Garnett  wrote:

> It is a real challenge around here, how many people do I know as wonderful
> as Iam that have a partner that likes chocolate?
> Actually I have another idea, I will report back if it is correct.
> --
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>
>
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 at 04:08, Margherita Di Leo via Discuss <
> discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>
>> Your karma must have been very good and the universe is acknowledging it,
>> Ian. Good for you
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 12:42 PM Ian Turton via Discuss <
>> discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Did you or your spouse have a conversation with Jody Garnet at a recent
>>> FOSS4G about a type of Canadian chocolate bar you really liked but couldn't
>>> get where you live - if so can you remind Jody of the type and who you are.
>>> Meanwhile my wife and I will eat the Canadian Crunchy bar he brought to
>>> Italy thinking it was us who he spoke to about it.
>>>
>>> Ian
>>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Canadian Chocolate

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

It is a real challenge around here, how many people do I know as wonderful
as Iam that have a partner that likes chocolate?
Actually I have another idea, I will report back if it is correct.
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On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 at 04:08, Margherita Di Leo via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Your karma must have been very good and the universe is acknowledging it,
> Ian. Good for you
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 12:42 PM Ian Turton via Discuss <
> discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:
>
>> Did you or your spouse have a conversation with Jody Garnet at a recent
>> FOSS4G about a type of Canadian chocolate bar you really liked but couldn't
>> get where you live - if so can you remind Jody of the type and who you are.
>> Meanwhile my wife and I will eat the Canadian Crunchy bar he brought to
>> Italy thinking it was us who he spoke to about it.
>>
>> Ian
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Weird Chapter page editing results (I think)

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

The following two pages are different:
- https://www.osgeo.org/local-chapters/twin-cities-mn-usa-chapter/
- https://staging.www.osgeo.org/local-chapters/twin-cities-mn-usa-chapter/

Do you have the link from the osgeo main website that took you to the wrong
location?
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On Wed, 9 Feb 2022 at 18:15, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Earlier this week I discovered that I lost about 6 month’s worth of edits
> to our local Chapter page on OSGeo.
>
>
>
> I’ve since went in and repaired the links (and updated it with tonights
> meeting links.) and noticed the Chapter pages URL looks a little different.
>
>
>
> Should they look like this (I don’t recall seeing that “staging.” part in
> front before).  Could this somehow be related to me losing my edits? :
>
>
>
> https://staging.www.osgeo.org/local-chapters/twin-cities-mn-usa-chapter/
>
>
>
> I got to this link from the OSGEO Main page to make sure it wasn’t
> something I was handing out by mistake.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Bobb
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Get me in Teams
> <https://teams.microsoft.com/l/chat/0/0?users=bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us>
>
> *PW19-S295-C024*
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Projects] OSGeo Budget 2022 - please send your budget requests for approval

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

One thing to keep in mind is this is "just" a budget, a chance for projects
to predict upcoming activities and expenses and communicate with the board
so that the organisation can be run responsibly. OSGeo is also set up to
collect sponsorship on behalf of your project [1].

If a project runs into unexpected expenses please reach [2] out to OSGeo
for assistance, one reason we have a foundation is to take care of each
other.

[1] https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/Sponsor
[2]
https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/blob/master/board/documents/osgeo_financial_guidance.pdf

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On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 at 03:19, Angelos Tzotsos  wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> * Dear OSGeo project members and committees, OSGeo has been a proud
> supporter of project events, code sprints, developer meetings and user
> conferences.  Given the COVID-19 pandemic, 2020 and 2021 have seen a shift
> to virtual events (for example, the OSGeo/OGC/Apache joint sprint in
> February 2021, as well as the global FOSS4G event).  It has been
> encouraging to see our energy, commitment and perseverance during this
> exceptional time. OSGeo continues to execute the annual budget, and is
> reaching out to all committees (including Project Steering Committees), to
> help plan our budget for 2022. In 2021, the Board assigned an initial
> amount of 2000 USD to all graduated projects who have reported to the Board
> the last 12 months (e.g. during the AGM or directly to a Board meeting) and
> have sent a budget request. For 2022, the Board is planning to continue to
> offer a budget to all graduated projects with the exact amount to be
> determined. Due to the successful FOSS4G 2021 and less money spent in 2021
> we are in the position to support our projects again as before.  To help
> navigate the uncertainties ahead in 2022, the Board is planning to have a
> budget meeting within January 2022 to review 2021
> expenditures, sponsorship, and make financial decisions for the 2022
> budget. Please send your detailed requests for approval (see detailed
> budget requests from 2021 e.g.
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoServer_Budget_2021
> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoServer_Budget_2021>
> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoServer_Budget_2021
> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoServer_Budget_2021>>) We would like to ask
> you to help us with budget proposals to assist your project. This will help
> us set aside a realistic amount of funding. Please add your project info to
> the budget draft at: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2022
> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2022>
> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2022
> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2022>> ideally by 20 January 2022
> in advance of our next Board meeting. When making a budget request please
> keep in mind the vision and goals of our Foundation, along with any
> obligations you wish to meet. Thank you and Happy New Year! On behalf of
> the OSGeo Board, Angelos *
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Index for FOSS4G video recordings

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

It is also an option to make resource pages https://www.osgeo.org/resources/
for any content presenters wish to share.
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On Tue, 26 Oct 2021 at 09:28, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Hello Ivan,
>
> good point.
>
> The code is on gitea.
>
> https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/foss4g/video.foss4g.org
>
> I can make a pull request and update the content.
>
> Thanks for the info
>
> Astrid
>
>
> Am 26.10.2021 17:33 schrieb Iván Sánchez Ortega via Discuss:
> > Hi y'all,
> >
> > I've noticed that the video recordings for the FOSS4G 2021 are up.
> >
> > However, the http://video.foss4g.org/ webpage is not updated (and
> > hasn't been
> > updated for a couple of years already).
> >
> > I don't know who maintains (or who can edit) video.foss4g.org . What's
> > the
> > best way to ping them in order to add links to the 2019 & 2021
> > playlists?
> >
> >
> > Best,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Standards] Version parameter missing in WMS 1.3 GetMap request

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

GeoServer has a strict configuration option to follow the specification
exactly (raising exceptions for incomplete requests such as this one). With
strict turned off GeoServer does its best to be somewhat forgiving of
requests (when a sensible assumption can be made).

The WMS version negotiation is intended to happen with GetCapabilities via
"version number negotiation", it would be sensible to follow the same
pattern if version is neglected from a GetMap request.

> 6.2.4 Version number negotiation
> ...
> If the server does not support the requested version, the server shall
respond with output that conforms to a version it does support, as
determined by the following rules:
>
> ⎯ If a version unknown to the server and higher than the lowest supported
version is requested, the server shall send the highest version it supports
that is less than the requested version.
> ⎯ If a version lower than any of those known to the server is requested,
then the server shall send the lowest version it supports.
> ⎯ If the client does not support the version sent by the server, it may
either cease communicating with the server or send a new request with a
different version number that the client does support.

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On Thu, 7 Oct 2021 at 03:29, Dirk Stenger  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We have following problem and are interested in the opinion of other 
> implementers of the WMS 1.3 specification.
>
> For example, a GetMap request is sent to a deegree service:
> * 
> https://inspire.brandenburg.de/services/ef_sem_wms?BBOX=228152.%2C5690412.%2C493382.%2C5939023.=EPSG%3A25833=image%2Fpng=500=EF.EnvironmentalMonitoringProgrammes=GetMap=WMS=EF.EnvironmentalMonitoringProgrammes.Default.Point=500
>
> A map is returned instead of an exception.
> Reading the specification (OGC® 06-042) this is a bug in the software 
> implementation as version is a mandatory parameter.
>
> However, it is not 100% clear what exception type shall be thrown as the 
> service does not know what WMS version is requested (WMS 1.3 has its own 
> exception schema).
>
> In addition, we should be aware that some clients may omit the version 
> parameter in a GetMap request.
> So, a fix of this behavior might break the compatibility with some clients.
> As far as we see, GeoServer also ignores a missing version.
>
> How do you handle such cases?
> How do you determine what exception shall be thrown if, for example, the 
> version parameter is missing?
> Is the compatibility to the specification or to actual implementations of 
> clients more important?
>
> We are looking forward to your thoughts about this issue and appreciate any 
> help.
>
> Kind regards,
> Dirk Stenger
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Position: Research Software Engineer

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

Ann:

There is an osgeo jobs board which you may wish to make use of (there are
some details here https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jobs_Board). It is a good
resource for those seeking to work in our industry, and organizations such
as 52°North seeking to grow our industry :)

If you like (since this is the discussion list) we can talk about how
rewarding it is to work with an open source company.
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 00:45, Ann Hitchcock via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Dear colleagues,
>
>
> 52°North GmbH is looking for a Research Software Engineer (m/f/d) to
> support our innovative team. The RSE will be working on two European
> Horizon 2020 projects. The projects focus on exploring approaches to
> managing, processing and visualizing spatio-temporal data (both typical
> geospatial data and geosensor data). The research contexts are marine and
> meteorological applications as well as climate change impacts.
>
> More information is available at:
> https://52north.org/about-us/career-opportunities/#jobs
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ann Hitchcock
>
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> 48155 Münster, Germany
> Fon: +49-(0)-251–396371-0
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> Prof. Dr. Albert Remke, Prof. Dr. Andreas Wytzisk-Arens
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Statement on Community Standards

[Jody Garnett via Discuss]

Astrid:

The page <https://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct/> links to the code of
conduct for several communities, but we no longer have a single code of
conduct as an organization. Indeed projects / events / local chapters are
able to choose an appropriate code of conduct - just like we ask free and
open source projects to choose an appropriate license for their community.

Personally I recommend adopting one of the community managed code of
conducts (Berlin Code of Conduct <https://berlincodeofconduct.org/> or
Contributor
Covenant <https://www.contributor-covenant.org/>) since it is not a lot of
fun to write one of these things and keep it up to date. Or keep it simple,
as the bards once said: *Be excellent to each other*
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On Sun, 30 May 2021 at 23:18, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> 2021-05-31
> News Item:
>
> https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/osgeo-statement-on-community-standards/
>
> The OSGeo Board of Directors issues this statement in response to recent
> events in the tech and global communities in relation to issues of
> inclusion, equity, and justice:
>
> OSGeo strives to be an open, welcoming, and safe community and, to that
> end, we continue to work to improve how we treat all members of our
> community.  We believe our community is built on the collective of all
> of our actions and that each individual has an impact on whether people
> feel welcome.
>
> OSGeo values the contributions of each and every member in all aspects
> of the organization, including (but not limited to) using and promoting
> open source geospatial software, contributing code, documentation, event
> speakers, participating in joint events with other organizations, or
> within  various committees.
>
> All participants, regardless of how or where they participate in OSGeo
> activities, are expected to behave with integrity and respect for all
> people.  We encourage all members to review the Code of Conduct, make
> necessary adjustments to their behaviors as needed, and to discuss the
> Code of Conduct within committees and projects.
> Code of conduct: https://www.osgeo.org/code_of_conduct/
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OGC CITE compliance testing

[Jody Garnett]

The GeoServer team did some fundraising and is working towards restoring
our cite test automation.
You are welcome to check in when the work is complete and see what you can
make use of.
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On Mon, 22 Feb 2021 at 08:32, Dirk Stenger  wrote:

> All,
>
> I am writing as being an active deegree (https://www.deegree.org/)
> developer but also being part of the OGC CITE team.
>
> We, the deegree community, are planning to update the test
> infrastructure to make sure that all new deegree releases are fully
> compliant to the OGC specs.
>
> I saw that OSGeo created a wiki page
> (https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OGC_Certification_Services) tackling this
> topic and that it was presented during the last AGM.
>
> As the deegree community is highly interested working closely together
> with OSGeo and OGC, a couple of questions came up:
>
> - I remember that OSGeo wanted to support integrating OGC CITE tests to
> project infrastructures making it easy to execute the CITE tests. Is
> there any documentation about the results? Maybe, the deegree community
> can also profit from the results and help to improve them.
> - Are there any other projects using automated OGC CITE tests? Maybe,
> the deegree community can cooperate with them which might help both
> sides to improve their CITE testing capabilities.
>
> Regards,
> Dirk
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Projects] OSGeo Budget 2021

[Jody Garnett]

With the topic of sponsorship also in the mix perhaps we can add a column
for "donations/sponsorship" for the different projects and committees.
This would communicate the budget each is working with, the commitment from
osgeo, and the financial support from their community.
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On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 20:29, Jody Garnett  wrote:

> Thanks,
>
> A couple of notes:
> - For GeoServer it shows $11,420 in 2020, that should be split between
> 2019 budget and 2020 budget?
> - We also have some fundraising / donations in the mix.
> --
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>
>
> On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 at 02:41, Angelos Tzotsos 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Here is the first draft of the 2021 Budget based on the last meeting
>> discussion.
>>
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2021
>>
>> We need to cover some more areas in our next meeting this Monday:
>> * Local Chapters
>> * Code Sprints
>> * Travel Grants
>>
>> Regards,
>> Angelos
>>
>> On 12/29/20 11:35 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
>> > Dear OSGeo project members and committees,
>> >
>> > Over the previous years, OSGeo has been proud to support a growing
>> > number of project events, such as community/code sprints, developer
>> > meetings, and user conferences. As a result of the COVID-19 pandemic,
>> > most OSGeo events in 2020 were held as virtual events.
>> >
>> > OSGeo is reaching out to all committees, including Project Steering
>> > Committees, to help plan our budget for 2021.
>> >
>> > In 2020, the Board assigned an initial amount of 2000 USD to all
>> > graduated projects who have reported to the Board the last 12 months
>> > (e.g. during the AGM or directly to a Board meeting). This year the
>> > Board is planning to continue to offer a budget to all graduated
>> > projects with the exact amount to be determined.
>> >
>> > Due to cancellation of events in 2020, we are not in a position to
>> > allocate and spend as much as we did in previous years.
>> >
>> > To help navigate the uncertainties ahead in 2021, the Board is
>> > planning to have a budget meeting on 18 January 2021 to review 2020
>> > expenditures, sponsorship, and make financial decisions for the 2021
>> > budget.
>> >
>> > Please send your detailed requests for approval (see detailed budget
>> > requests from 2020 e.g.
>> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoServer_Budget_2020
>> > <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoServer_Budget_2020>)
>> >
>> > We would like to ask you to help us with budget proposals to assist
>> > your project. This will help us set aside a realistic amount of funding.
>> >
>> > Please add your project info to the budget draft at:
>> >
>> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2021
>> > <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2021>
>> >
>> > ideally by 17 January 2021 in advance of our next Board meeting.
>> >
>> > When making a budget request please keep in mind the vision and goals
>> > of our Foundation, along with any obligations you wish to meet.
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>> >
>> > On behalf of the OSGeo Board,
>> >
>> > Angelos
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Projects] OSGeo Budget 2021

[Jody Garnett]

Thanks,

A couple of notes:
- For GeoServer it shows $11,420 in 2020, that should be split between 2019
budget and 2020 budget?
- We also have some fundraising / donations in the mix.
--
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2021 at 02:41, Angelos Tzotsos  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Here is the first draft of the 2021 Budget based on the last meeting
> discussion.
>
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2021
>
> We need to cover some more areas in our next meeting this Monday:
> * Local Chapters
> * Code Sprints
> * Travel Grants
>
> Regards,
> Angelos
>
> On 12/29/20 11:35 AM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
> > Dear OSGeo project members and committees,
> >
> > Over the previous years, OSGeo has been proud to support a growing
> > number of project events, such as community/code sprints, developer
> > meetings, and user conferences. As a result of the COVID-19 pandemic,
> > most OSGeo events in 2020 were held as virtual events.
> >
> > OSGeo is reaching out to all committees, including Project Steering
> > Committees, to help plan our budget for 2021.
> >
> > In 2020, the Board assigned an initial amount of 2000 USD to all
> > graduated projects who have reported to the Board the last 12 months
> > (e.g. during the AGM or directly to a Board meeting). This year the
> > Board is planning to continue to offer a budget to all graduated
> > projects with the exact amount to be determined.
> >
> > Due to cancellation of events in 2020, we are not in a position to
> > allocate and spend as much as we did in previous years.
> >
> > To help navigate the uncertainties ahead in 2021, the Board is
> > planning to have a budget meeting on 18 January 2021 to review 2020
> > expenditures, sponsorship, and make financial decisions for the 2021
> > budget.
> >
> > Please send your detailed requests for approval (see detailed budget
> > requests from 2020 e.g.
> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoServer_Budget_2020
> > <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GeoServer_Budget_2020>)
> >
> > We would like to ask you to help us with budget proposals to assist
> > your project. This will help us set aside a realistic amount of funding.
> >
> > Please add your project info to the budget draft at:
> >
> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2021
> > <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2021>
> >
> > ideally by 17 January 2021 in advance of our next Board meeting.
> >
> > When making a budget request please keep in mind the vision and goals
> > of our Foundation, along with any obligations you wish to meet.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > On behalf of the OSGeo Board,
> >
> > Angelos
> >
> >
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OGC certification fees - Is there a common agreement with OSGeo

[Jody Garnett]

I think there is a MOU between OSGeo and OGC to handle this sort of thing,
see website (https://www.osgeo.org/partners/ogc/), OSGeo also has
interoperability as one of the groups goals (so it is a good activity to
request funding for).
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On Fri, 23 Oct 2020 at 09:05, Régis Haubourg 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> During the last two years, I have been in running the official
> certification process for QGIS.org and QGIS server.
>
> We have certified [0] QGIS server for WMS 1.3 and more recently the OGC
> APIF 1.0.
>
> Up to now, the OGC team has been very helpful by kindly giving us the
> reference implementation status, which implies no fees to pay.
>
> But this changed just now with a more strict policy - see the response
> below [4] - which ends up in having to pay 300 euros for each
> certification process and yearly renewal process.
>
> QGIS.org could eventually afford this budget, but I'm not sure smaller
> OSGeo project can.
>
> Furthermore, this manual process is already time consuming, a bit
> bureaucratic,  and given that we run continuous integration with OGC
> compliance tests [1], we will probably not struggle to get certified so
> often under these new conditions. That is a bit sad since open source
> really go together with public standards.
>
> Do we have any agreement at the OSGeo level that would ease this part ?
> (I checked the wiki [2] first of course)
>
>
> Thanks for your inputs,
>
> Best regards
>
> Régis
>
> ---
>
> President of the french local Chapter / QGIS contributor
>
>
> [0]
>
> https://www.ogc.org/resource/products?display_opt=1_match=QGIS.org%20(OSGEO%20project)
>
> [1] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/pull/38644
>
> [2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OGC_Certification_Services
>
>
> [4]
>
> On 22/10/2020 11:25, Gobe Hobona wrote:
> > We appreciate the work done by the QGIS and OSGeo community in
> > supporting OGC standards. Please note however that we are guided by
> > our policies, agreed on by the OGC Membership.
> >
> > Please see Sections 5.5 and 6.3 of the Compliance Testing Policy
> > [https://portal.opengeospatial.org/files/?artifact_id=55234].
> >
> > The fee is only waived for:
> >
> > * The first three implementations to pass 100% of the compliance
> > procedure, while the test is in beta. We refer to these as Early
> > Implementers.
> > * The first two Reference Implementations that pass the test related
> > to a conformance class within a version of an Implementation Standard.
> >
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo GitHub Sponsors profile is live

[Jody Garnett]

It is great to see that set up - if I understand correctly sponsoring via
github is "better" than paypal in that it does not take an overhead
percentage.
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On Sun, 11 Oct 2020 at 11:31, Victoria Rautenbach <
victoria.rautenb...@gmail.com> wrote:

> News item at,
> https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/osgeo-github-sponsors-profile-is-live/
>
> OSGeo provides financial, organisational and legal support to the broader
> open source geospatial community, but we rely on our sponsors to enable us
> to do this for the community. Firstly, we would like to thank and
> acknowledge all our current sponsors <https://www.osgeo.org/sponsors/>!
> To make it easier for the larger user community of our projects to support
> and sponsor OSGeo, we decided to join the GitHub sponsorship programme.
>
> GitHub Sponsors
> <https://docs.github.com/en/free-pro-team@latest/github/supporting-the-open-source-community-with-github-sponsors/about-github-sponsors>
> allows the developer community to financially support the people and
> organizations who design, build, and maintain the open source projects they
> depend on, directly on GitHub. We are still accepting sponsors via
> communication with the treasure or paypal, this is just an added method
> (read more on How to become a sponsor?
> <https://www.osgeo.org/about/how-to-become-a-sponsor/>).
>
> Through the GitHub sponsorship programme, we received our first $10
> USD/month sponsorship within 26 minutes (wow)! So we hope to get more
> sponsors via GitHub that can enable us to provide more resources to our
> projects and invest in our global community.
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Application for MDAL to join OSGeo incubator program

[Jody Garnett]

Let me see if I can help, comments inline:
--
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just wondering if I shouldn't send this to some mailing list, or
> communication with you directly is fine?
>

Each question looks like it goes to a different group, osgeo likes email
lists for transparency and community building. There are very few direct
email contacts in osgeo (presid...@osgeo.org, i...@osgeo.org, etc).

Indeed let me move this email to disc...@osgeo.org so others can follow
along, and more importantly correct me when I am wrong :)

1. I want to create a mailing list mdal-develo...@lists.osgeo.org, but I am
>> unable to do so: with error "Error: You are not authorized to create new
>> mailing lists"
>>
>
The System Admin Committee makes email lists, they like you to make a trac
ticket...
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Mailing_Lists#Requesting_a_new_list


> 2. MDAL & MDAL-docs repositories now live under lutraconsulting/ github
>> organization. Are we supposed to move them under OSGeo organization? How
>> can this be done? (I have permissions for lutraconsulting, but I am not
>> sure about the transition) Should we do it now or only after?
>>
>
OSGeo does not have any requirement to change organizations or anything.

3. Can we already use the "OSGeo Community" Badge on the MDAL
>> repository/docs or should we wait for some official confirmation from OSGeo
>> of acceptance?
>>
>
The osgeo incubation committee will review, and then make a motion to add
you to "OSGeo Community" program.
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Community_Projects

4. Do you have some details/doc with the next steps for us? If there are
>> some funds, promotions or other that MDAL can benefit from being community
>> project?  We are very much lacking the proper documentation for developers
>> and users. Also we miss the proper distribution means, where for now we
>> just copy the code into QGIS and compile it with it.
>>
>
Incubation committee email list is a good place to discuss this, we mostly
have examples.
There is a document on how funding works with OSGeo (in short you show up
at a meeting and ask).
https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/blob/master/board/documents/osgeo_financial_guidance.pdf



> 5. in the "Implemented Standards" section, I cannot find CF (
>> http://cfconventions.org) and UGRID standards we implemented (
>> http://ugrid-conventions.github.io/ugrid-conventions/)
>>
>
Then I probably need to add it to the list of options, hold on :)

Okay I added: NetCDF, CF, and UGRID (they apparently form a hierarchy)


> 6. Are there any requirements/event/? that we as Community project should
>> do during the year?
>>
>
None, the community program is strictly about building community and
capacity. There are things (OSGeo Live, Sprints) that you can participate
in but nothing mandatory.
OSGeo Committees, and full OSGeo projects are a committee, end up
participating in annual budget discussion and annual general meeting.

Thanks a lot again for your help with setting this up,
>>
>
Thanks for taking part in our community!

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] A young project: OSArch

[Jody Garnett]

There are a couple presentations, but the key thing is the checklist we use

during our incubation process.

The theme is to recognize that open source and free software are *just* a
license, primarily focused on software distribution. As a group we
experiment with taking that "open" attitude and see it applied to other
aspects of software and community development.

Some presentations:

   - Open Source Practice and Passion at OSGeo
   

-
   talks through the checklist providing some context
   - Open Source procurement
    - looks a
   bit more at the risks be addressed
   - The FOSS4G Journey
   

-
   covers some of how the grass community spun out first OGC, and then teamed
   up with others for from OSGeo





On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 4:07 PM Duncan Lithgow 
wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> I'm just
>
> getting in touch from the OSArch project [1] since we've been talking
>
> about where we want to OSArch project to go and how it should be
>
> organised [2]. We've noticed how successful and stable OSGeo seems to be
>
> and would like to know more about how that's been achieved and what we
>
> can learn from it as our organisation grows.
>
> Basically,
>
> as the name suggests, we're interested in open source and free software
>
> in the AECO space. Maybe the name is misleading - we're not just about
>
> architecture but the whole built environment. We're starting to see
>
> opportunities for applying for funding but that's a bit hard when we're
>
> not really an organisation and have barely started stating clearly what
>
> our golas and priorities are.
>
> For now I guess
>
> I'm just saying hi to hear who would be interested in talking to us
>
> about these things. At some stage in the hopefully near future we'd love
>
> to see or make a presentation about how OSGeo got where it is today and
>
> what we can learn.
>
> Jody Garnet recently
>
> mentioned some requirements OSgeo has above and beyond OSI. I'd love to
>
> read about them. Jody, can you tell me where I can read more about that?
>
> Of course you're all welcome to talk to us on our forum and visit the wiki.
>
> Regards, Duncan
>
> [1] https://osarch.org/
> [2]
>
> https://community.osarch.org/discussion/182/organizational-structure-and-governance-of-osarch
> https://community.osarch.org/discussion/168/vision-for-osarch/p1
> https://community.osarch.org/discussion/comment/1067
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[OSGeo-Discuss] welcome to the main branch

[Jody Garnett]

I was doing some research for geos-9647
<https://osgeo-org.atlassian.net/browse/GEOS-9647> and noticed that git
command line tool is providing a setting for the creation of new
repositories:

$ git config --global init.defaultBranch main

For more information:
- https://sfconservancy.org/news/2020/jun/23/gitbranchname/
- https://github.blog/2020-07-27-highlights-from-git-2-28/
- https://github.com/github/renaming
- https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/221164
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] opensource initiative clearly defined tool

[Jody Garnett]

I am not sure. Perhaps discuss with the incubation committee or board?

On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 4:59 AM SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA <
sergio.acostayl...@mtop.gub.uy> wrote:

>
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>
>
> Thank you Jody for this. Should any OSGeo committee serve this group?
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sergio Acosta y Lara
>
>
> Departamento de Geomática
>
>
> Dirección Nacional de Topografía
>
>
>
>
> Ministerio de Transporte y Obras Públicas
>
>
> URUGUAY
>
>
> (598)29157933 ints. 20329/20330
>
>
> http://geoportal.mtop.gub.uy/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> *De:* Discuss  en nombre de Jody Garnett
> 
>
>
> *Enviado:* viernes, 14 de agosto de 2020 18:58
>
>
> *Para:* OSGeo Discussions
>
>
> *Asunto:* [OSGeo-Discuss] opensource initiative clearly defined tool
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Wanted to pass on to a link provided by the open source initiative (
> https://opensource.org). As you know OSGeo relies on OSI to short-list
> free software and open source licenses that are acceptable to
> the Foundation.
>
> And then OSGeo adds on a host of additional requirements to ensure our
> projects are open in other respects (communication, decisions, docs, ...).
>
>
>
>
>
>
> OSI started a group https://clearlydefined.io/about that looks at some of
> these other concerns and may be of interest to folks here.
>
>
>
>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] opensource initiative clearly defined tool

[Jody Garnett]

Wanted to pass on to a link provided by the open source initiative (
https://opensource.org). As you know OSGeo relies on OSI to short-list free
software and open source licenses that are acceptable to the Foundation.
And then OSGeo adds on a host of additional requirements to ensure our
projects are open in other respects (communication, decisions, docs, ...).

OSI started a group https://clearlydefined.io/about that looks at some of
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

[Jody Garnett]

The PDF is a really “just tell us your idea” rather than  “pretend
everything is a code sprint”  (which was previously the only document with
clear instructions on how to apply for funding).

I am really glad to see this idea go ahead, there are several traditional
reasons for avoiding open source: GeoForAll meets the “lack of educational
materials goal”, a font can help meet the “I have to follow official
cartography goal”, advocacy can help meet the “huh?” confusion :)



On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 4:12 AM Angelos Tzotsos 
wrote:

>
> https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo/blob/master/board/documents/osgeo_financial_guidance.pdf
>
> On 7/24/20 9:41 AM, Nyall Dawson wrote:
> > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 at 13:09, Jody Garnett 
> wrote:
> >> Make a proposal to the board if you want to set this up as a cross
> project initiative.
> >>
> >> Marketing board would happy to accept your proposal also (this is a
> barrier to adoption).
> >>
> >> Approach project PSC individually also works.
> >>
> >> There is a PDF on osgeo GitHub on how to do this kind of thing ...
> > Thanks Jody!
> >
> > Have you got a link to this PDF?
> >
> > Nyall
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 5:36 PM Nyall Dawson 
> wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 23:38, Jody Garnett 
> wrote:
> >>>> This discussion starts to get into the value, it is a lot of work to
> gather up these original or alternate sources ... both for end users
> migrating to open source, and for OSGeo projects to do on their own.
> >>>>
> >>>> I think this would be a great group project.
> >>> Brett has recently compiled a summary of these fonts and symbols here:
> >>> https://github.com/Saijin-Naib/ESRI-Fonts-Cheat-Sheets
> >>>
> >>> What I think we should aim for is an equivalent of the "Liberation"
> >>> font package, which implements freely licensed equivalents of the
> >>> standard Windows font packages (Arial, Times New Roman, etc), with
> >>> identical font metrics and similar styling so that they can be used
> >>> effectively as a drop-in replacement.
> >>>
> >>> What would be the next step to move forward with this and approach
> >>> osgeo for funding?
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards,
> >>> Nyall
> >>>
> >>>> On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 3:44 AM Brad Hards 
> wrote:
> >>>>> I have no idea what is in the map fonts (or even what an ESRI map
> font is), but if you're looking for the symbology for DNC and VMAP, (which
> sound vaguely like: ESRI NIMA DNC LN, ESRI NIMA DNC PT, ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2
> LN, ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 PT) its probably based on some variant of the NGA
> GeoSym stuff - MIL-HDBK-857A and MIL-DTL-89045/A
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you're prepared to deal with converting CGM to whatever that font
> thing is, you can download the definitions from the NGA GWG Portrayal
> Working Group at https://gwg.nga.mil/pfg_documents.php (expect a cert
> warning)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The ESRI Mil2525C Modifiers and some of those MilSym / MilMod things
> might be MIL-STD-2525 (aka STANAG APP-6) symbology. Not usually treated as
> a font though
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Brad
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Original Message-
> >>>>> From: Discuss  On Behalf Of Nyall
> Dawson
> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 3:46 PM
> >>>>> To: Even Rouault 
> >>>>> Cc: OSGeo Discussions 
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map
> fonts
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 01:13, Even Rouault <
> even.roua...@spatialys.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> for my understanding, and hopefully help others, I assume the issue
> is that you have a style definition where there are tuples of
> (font_identifier, symbol_identifier_in_the_font) to define the styling of
> layers with point geometries, right ?
> >>>>> Partially, but the "bigger picture" is that there's just no
> alternative freely available version of many of these symbol graphics
> themselves. That's the blocker that I've encountered.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> If that's only the former, then assuming there would be N open
> fonts already covering the whole set of ESRI symbology fonts (unlikely),
> one could possibly create a mapping between each tuple of (ESRI_font_id,
> ESRI_symbol_id) to (OPEN_f

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

[Jody Garnett]

Make a proposal to the board if you want to set this up as a cross project
initiative.

Marketing board would happy to accept your proposal also (this is a barrier
to adoption).

Approach project PSC individually also works.

There is a PDF on osgeo GitHub on how to do this kind of thing ...

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 5:36 PM Nyall Dawson  wrote:

> On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 23:38, Jody Garnett  wrote:
> >
> > This discussion starts to get into the value, it is a lot of work to
> gather up these original or alternate sources ... both for end users
> migrating to open source, and for OSGeo projects to do on their own.
> >
> > I think this would be a great group project.
>
> Brett has recently compiled a summary of these fonts and symbols here:
> https://github.com/Saijin-Naib/ESRI-Fonts-Cheat-Sheets
>
> What I think we should aim for is an equivalent of the "Liberation"
> font package, which implements freely licensed equivalents of the
> standard Windows font packages (Arial, Times New Roman, etc), with
> identical font metrics and similar styling so that they can be used
> effectively as a drop-in replacement.
>
> What would be the next step to move forward with this and approach
> osgeo for funding?
>
> Kind regards,
> Nyall
>
> >
> > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 3:44 AM Brad Hards  wrote:
> >>
> >> I have no idea what is in the map fonts (or even what an ESRI map font
> is), but if you're looking for the symbology for DNC and VMAP, (which sound
> vaguely like: ESRI NIMA DNC LN, ESRI NIMA DNC PT, ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 LN,
> ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 PT) its probably based on some variant of the NGA GeoSym
> stuff - MIL-HDBK-857A and MIL-DTL-89045/A
> >>
> >> If you're prepared to deal with converting CGM to whatever that font
> thing is, you can download the definitions from the NGA GWG Portrayal
> Working Group at https://gwg.nga.mil/pfg_documents.php (expect a cert
> warning)
> >>
> >> The ESRI Mil2525C Modifiers and some of those MilSym / MilMod things
> might be MIL-STD-2525 (aka STANAG APP-6) symbology. Not usually treated as
> a font though
> >>
> >> Brad
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Discuss  On Behalf Of Nyall
> Dawson
> >> Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 3:46 PM
> >> To: Even Rouault 
> >> Cc: OSGeo Discussions 
> >> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts
> >>
> >> On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 01:13, Even Rouault 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > for my understanding, and hopefully help others, I assume the issue
> is that you have a style definition where there are tuples of
> (font_identifier, symbol_identifier_in_the_font) to define the styling of
> layers with point geometries, right ?
> >>
> >> Partially, but the "bigger picture" is that there's just no alternative
> freely available version of many of these symbol graphics themselves.
> That's the blocker that I've encountered.
> >>
> >> > If that's only the former, then assuming there would be N open fonts
> already covering the whole set of ESRI symbology fonts (unlikely), one
> could possibly create a mapping between each tuple of (ESRI_font_id,
> ESRI_symbol_id) to (OPEN_font_id, OPEN_symbol_id). If the later, then you
> need a complete replacement for each proprietary font.
> >>
> >> It's the later.
> >>
> >> > How many symbols / fonts are we discussing about ?
> >>
> >> There's about 73 fonts total (see list below, may not be complete),
> which average about 100 icons apiece.
> >>
> >> ESRI AMFM Electric
> >> ESRI AMFM Gas
> >> ESRI AMFM Sewer
> >> ESRI AMFM Water
> >> ESRI ArcPad
> >> ESRI Arrowhead
> >> ESRI Business
> >> ESRI Cartography
> >> ESRI Caves 1
> >> ESRI Caves 2
> >> ESRI Caves 3
> >> ESRI Climate & Precipitation
> >> ESRI Commodities
> >> ESRI Conservation
> >> ESRI Crime Analysis
> >> ESRI Default Marker
> >> ESRI Dimensioning
> >> ESRI Elements
> >> ESRI Enviro Hazard Analysis
> >> ESRI Enviro Hazard Incident
> >> ESRI Enviro Hazard Sites
> >> ESRI Environmental & Icons
> >> ESRI ERS Infrastructures S1
> >> ESRI ERS Operations S1
> >> ESRI Fire Incident NFPA
> >> ESRI Geology AGSO 1
> >> ESRI Geology
> >> ESRI Geology USGS 95-525
> >> ESRI Geometric Symbols
> >> ESRI Hazardous Materials
> >> ESRI Hydrants
> >> ESRI IGL Font16
> >> ESRI IGL Font20
> 

[OSGeo-Discuss] Bolsena Code Sprint 2020 Online 29: June - 4 July

[Jody Garnett]

Quick eminder the Bolsena code sprint is going virtual this year:
https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Bolsena_Code_Sprint_2020

To take part please add your project or participation to the wiki page!

Due to remote attendance we are looking at a drop-in social and have some
ideas on acknowledging participants. Please consider this a reminder to
sponsor OSGeo activities financially
<https://www.osgeo.org/foundation-news/osgeo-sponsorship-opportunities-2020/>.
The sprint acknowledges all organizations
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Bolsena_Code_Sprint_2020#Sponsors> supporting
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [SAC] OSGeo SAC Meeting highlights

[Jody Garnett]

Thanks for the update :) Indeed a lot accomplished.

Are their any updates for domain name transfers from planet federal?

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 1:31 PM Regina Obe  wrote:

> We had a meeting today - sadly only wildintellect, robe, and jef
> contributed, but I feel we got a lot accomplished.
>
> Discussions were
>
> 1. How to deal with OSGeo4W and other (Windows / Mac build ) needs -- I
> think more research needs to be done here.
> I started a page as to my understanding of needs and what research needs to
> be done to push forward.
>
> Feel free to add to this page
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC_Shared_Building_Services
>
> 2. How to convert wiki authentication to use our LDAP so it's like the
> other
> services we offer?
> Now that wiki has been migrated to latest version and Latest Debian OS - we
> are ready to start work on this.
>
> I sent a note to the most promising contractor proposal we received and he
> said he can do it.  I'll let you know once we find out more details about
> this.
>
> So the general plan is as follows:
> 1. Do some trial tests in dev environment I setup (that is a backup of
> production wiki and secure (our ldap) )
> 2. Then push changes to production once we are comfortable we have the work
> flow right
>
> Workflow:
>
> Users log in with their current wiki user and then log in again with their
> LDAP credentials.
> Information about their LDAP user would be added to their wiki account and,
> in the future, they could use their LDAP credentials to log into their wiki
> user account.
> We ideally will not allow any new wiki accounts to be created (outside of
> LDAP).
> Eventually after some grace period we would then retire the original wiki
> login method in favor of LDAP.
>
>
> Thanks,
> Regina
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Analysis] Geospatial server deployment statistics

[Jody Garnett]

Interesting so some of the 5000+ WMS services attributed to geoserver may
be mapserver instances?
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On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 13:41, Even Rouault 
wrote:

> On vendredi 5 juin 2020 08:30:39 CEST Jody Garnett wrote:
>
> > That is really interesting Jonathan, if you are open to cross posting it
>
> > would be nice to reference this from a GeoServer blog post.
>
> >
>
> > I especially liked the fingerprinting:
>
> > > A ridiculously long, 5000+ item list of default projections that the
>
> > > server supports that 1 in 6 GeoServer administrators hasn't culled
>
> >
>
> > Surprisingly nobody has made a motion to start with a smaller list, and I
>
> > think we found that if we provided a smaller list folks assume GeoServer
> is
>
> > less capable.
>
> > What do other WMS implementations do?
>
>
>
> For Mapserver, it is up to the service administrator (aka mapfile guru) to
> define the list of CRS he wants to expose. Otherwise just the global
> (default) mapfile CRS is exposed.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Analysis] Geospatial server deployment statistics

[Jody Garnett]

Thanks for the quick feedback :)

> Thanks for the feedback. You're very welcome to cross-post it; the
> blog-content is all CC-BY-SA 4.0 by default so share as you wish.
>
I would prefer to link, idea is for your article to get a wider reach.

> > What do other WMS implementations do?
>
> Projection list - I can't comment on how the other software deals with
> this from an administration perspective (I've only ever administered
> GeoServer), but from when I've looked at the GetCaps I don't remember
> seeing long lists, and no server apart from GeoServer ended up triggering
> the " > 5000 projections" score item (itself an arbitrary cut-off, didn't
> test for a low bound).
> ...
> I don't imagine there would be big resource savings - it's only around
> 120kB uncompressed.
>
That is good to know, it still may be worth having a short list by default
(since the number of SRS items is often held against geoserver in
performance shootouts).

How often do you collect these stats? Or is it the first time ... it would
be interesting to know how market share changes over time.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Analysis] Geospatial server deployment statistics

[Jody Garnett]

That is really interesting Jonathan, if you are open to cross posting it
would be nice to reference this from a GeoServer blog post.

I especially liked the fingerprinting:

> A ridiculously long, 5000+ item list of default projections that the
> server supports that 1 in 6 GeoServer administrators hasn't culled


Surprisingly nobody has made a motion to start with a smaller list, and I
think we found that if we provided a smaller list folks assume GeoServer is
less capable.
What do other WMS implementations do?
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On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 at 11:32, Jonathan Moules 
wrote:

> Hi All,
> At the risk of engaging in self-promotion, this may be of interest to
> the community.
>
> I've just finished an analysis of what geospatial server software's
> behind the ~2.2 million WMS/WFS/WCS/WMTS datasets that GeoSeer has in
> its search-engine index.
>
> The extremely short version of things likely of interest here:
>
> * ArcGIS has by far the most deployments: 2,755 (53.70%); other
> proprietary is a rounding error.
>
> * GeoServer is the second most popular for deployments (964 (18.79%)),
> and hosts by far the most datasets: 963,603 (43.26%).
>
> * MapServer has a very healthy deployment count too: 544 (10.6%), and
> serves a considerable number of datasets: 389,709 (17.49%).
>
> * Put another way, at least 2/3rds of the world's geospatial data that's
> served via OGC standards is served by Open Source software (mostly
> OSGeo). And over 60% between GeoServer and MapServer alone.
>
> * So basically it looks like many city/county/provincials have an ArcGIS
> Server install and use that for (occasionally token!) compliance with
> "open data" edicts, but the full-on SDI data warehouses almost all go
> for Open Source.
>
> You can find (much) more detail (+ numbers for a bunch of the other
> OSGeo projects) in the (ad-free, tracking-free, cookie-free,
> javascript-free, in fact both free and Free!) blog post:
> https://www.geoseer.net/blog/?p=2020-06-04_geospatial_server_software
>
>
> So yes, good job to everyone who contributes in any way to all these
> projects! Hopefully this reinforces how useful they are; maybe you can
> use it in future work-bids too (its the sort of thing that reassures
> management). Could also be be useful when it comes to figuring out where
> limited OSGeo funds will have most impact.
>
> Comments/thoughts/discussion/feedback welcome (on or off list).
> Cheers,
> Jonathan
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is there a desinated spot to post videos from local Chapter events?

[Jody Garnett]

Just some ideas:

1) Coordinate with marketing committee to list on osgeo youtube channel
(subject of much discussion last year)
2) Making a resource page <https://www.osgeo.org/resources/> on the website
is great, mostly used by GeoForAll right now


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On Wed, 3 Jun 2020 at 10:33, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) <
bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us> wrote:

> All,
>
>
>
> Or, should they just be uploaded/linked to the respective Chapter Page?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Bobb
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

[Jody Garnett]

This discussion starts to get into the value, it is a lot of work to gather
up these original or alternate sources ... both for end users migrating to
open source, and for OSGeo projects to do on their own.

I think this would be a great group project.

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 3:44 AM Brad Hards  wrote:

> I have no idea what is in the map fonts (or even what an ESRI map font
> is), but if you're looking for the symbology for DNC and VMAP, (which sound
> vaguely like: ESRI NIMA DNC LN, ESRI NIMA DNC PT, ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 LN,
> ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 PT) its probably based on some variant of the NGA GeoSym
> stuff - MIL-HDBK-857A and MIL-DTL-89045/A
>
> If you're prepared to deal with converting CGM to whatever that font thing
> is, you can download the definitions from the NGA GWG Portrayal Working
> Group at https://gwg.nga.mil/pfg_documents.php (expect a cert warning)
>
> The ESRI Mil2525C Modifiers and some of those MilSym / MilMod things might
> be MIL-STD-2525 (aka STANAG APP-6) symbology. Not usually treated as a font
> though
>
> Brad
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Discuss  On Behalf Of Nyall Dawson
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2020 3:46 PM
> To: Even Rouault 
> Cc: OSGeo Discussions 
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts
>
> On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 01:13, Even Rouault 
> wrote:
>
> > for my understanding, and hopefully help others, I assume the issue is
> that you have a style definition where there are tuples of
> (font_identifier, symbol_identifier_in_the_font) to define the styling of
> layers with point geometries, right ?
>
> Partially, but the "bigger picture" is that there's just no alternative
> freely available version of many of these symbol graphics themselves.
> That's the blocker that I've encountered.
>
> > If that's only the former, then assuming there would be N open fonts
> already covering the whole set of ESRI symbology fonts (unlikely), one
> could possibly create a mapping between each tuple of (ESRI_font_id,
> ESRI_symbol_id) to (OPEN_font_id, OPEN_symbol_id). If the later, then you
> need a complete replacement for each proprietary font.
>
> It's the later.
>
> > How many symbols / fonts are we discussing about ?
>
> There's about 73 fonts total (see list below, may not be complete), which
> average about 100 icons apiece.
>
> ESRI AMFM Electric
> ESRI AMFM Gas
> ESRI AMFM Sewer
> ESRI AMFM Water
> ESRI ArcPad
> ESRI Arrowhead
> ESRI Business
> ESRI Cartography
> ESRI Caves 1
> ESRI Caves 2
> ESRI Caves 3
> ESRI Climate & Precipitation
> ESRI Commodities
> ESRI Conservation
> ESRI Crime Analysis
> ESRI Default Marker
> ESRI Dimensioning
> ESRI Elements
> ESRI Enviro Hazard Analysis
> ESRI Enviro Hazard Incident
> ESRI Enviro Hazard Sites
> ESRI Environmental & Icons
> ESRI ERS Infrastructures S1
> ESRI ERS Operations S1
> ESRI Fire Incident NFPA
> ESRI Geology AGSO 1
> ESRI Geology
> ESRI Geology USGS 95-525
> ESRI Geometric Symbols
> ESRI Hazardous Materials
> ESRI Hydrants
> ESRI IGL Font16
> ESRI IGL Font20
> ESRI IGL Font21
> ESRI IGL Font22
> ESRI IGL Font23
> ESRI IGL Font24
> ESRI IGL Font25
> ESRI Meteorological 01
> ESRI Mil2525C Modifiers
> ESRI MilMod 01
> ESRI MilMod 02
> ESRI MilRed 01
> ESRI MilSym 01
> ESRI MilSym 02
> ESRI MilSym 03
> ESRI MilSym 04
> ESRI MilSym 05
> ESRI NIMA City Graphic LN
> ESRI NIMA City Graphic PT
> ESRI NIMA DNC LN
> ESRI NIMA DNC PT
> ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 LN
> ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 PT
> ESRI North
> ESRI Oil, Gas, & Water
> ESRI Ordnance Survey
> ESRI Pipeline US 1
> ESRI Public1
> ESRI SDS 1.95 1
> ESRI SDS 1.95 2
> ESRI SDS 2.00 1
> ESRI SDS 2.00 2
> ESRI Shields
> ESRI Surveyor
> ESRI Telecom
> ESRI Transportation & Civic
> ESRI US Forestry 1
> ESRI US Forestry 2
> ESRI US MUTCD 1
> ESRI US MUTCD 2
> ESRI US MUTCD 3
> ESRI Weather
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

[Jody Garnett]

Note this is quite the legal trap, many governments have contributed to
these fonts, and then are not in a position to use the result with open
source software such as GeoServer (even though we have TTF symbol support).

Specifically for the US fonts above it may be possible to source the
original marks directly from the departments involved via public domain,
and then as a citizen contribute marks. You can see gvsig working on this
kind of issue here
<https://blog.gvsig.org/2013/06/03/gvsig-2-0-forestry-symbol-library/>.

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On Mon, 11 May 2020 at 22:46, Nyall Dawson  wrote:

> On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 01:13, Even Rouault 
> wrote:
>
> > for my understanding, and hopefully help others, I assume the issue is
> that you have a style definition where there are tuples of
> (font_identifier, symbol_identifier_in_the_font) to define the styling of
> layers with point geometries, right ?
>
> Partially, but the "bigger picture" is that there's just no
> alternative freely available version of many of these symbol graphics
> themselves. That's the blocker that I've encountered.
>
> > If that's only the former, then assuming there would be N open fonts
> already covering the whole set of ESRI symbology fonts (unlikely), one
> could possibly create a mapping between each tuple of (ESRI_font_id,
> ESRI_symbol_id) to (OPEN_font_id, OPEN_symbol_id). If the later, then you
> need a complete replacement for each proprietary font.
>
> It's the later.
>
> > How many symbols / fonts are we discussing about ?
>
> There's about 73 fonts total (see list below, may not be complete),
> which average about 100 icons apiece.
>
> ESRI AMFM Electric
> ESRI AMFM Gas
> ESRI AMFM Sewer
> ESRI AMFM Water
> ESRI ArcPad
> ESRI Arrowhead
> ESRI Business
> ESRI Cartography
> ESRI Caves 1
> ESRI Caves 2
> ESRI Caves 3
> ESRI Climate & Precipitation
> ESRI Commodities
> ESRI Conservation
> ESRI Crime Analysis
> ESRI Default Marker
> ESRI Dimensioning
> ESRI Elements
> ESRI Enviro Hazard Analysis
> ESRI Enviro Hazard Incident
> ESRI Enviro Hazard Sites
> ESRI Environmental & Icons
> ESRI ERS Infrastructures S1
> ESRI ERS Operations S1
> ESRI Fire Incident NFPA
> ESRI Geology AGSO 1
> ESRI Geology
> ESRI Geology USGS 95-525
> ESRI Geometric Symbols
> ESRI Hazardous Materials
> ESRI Hydrants
> ESRI IGL Font16
> ESRI IGL Font20
> ESRI IGL Font21
> ESRI IGL Font22
> ESRI IGL Font23
> ESRI IGL Font24
> ESRI IGL Font25
> ESRI Meteorological 01
> ESRI Mil2525C Modifiers
> ESRI MilMod 01
> ESRI MilMod 02
> ESRI MilRed 01
> ESRI MilSym 01
> ESRI MilSym 02
> ESRI MilSym 03
> ESRI MilSym 04
> ESRI MilSym 05
> ESRI NIMA City Graphic LN
> ESRI NIMA City Graphic PT
> ESRI NIMA DNC LN
> ESRI NIMA DNC PT
> ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 LN
> ESRI NIMA VMAP1&2 PT
> ESRI North
> ESRI Oil, Gas, & Water
> ESRI Ordnance Survey
> ESRI Pipeline US 1
> ESRI Public1
> ESRI SDS 1.95 1
> ESRI SDS 1.95 2
> ESRI SDS 2.00 1
> ESRI SDS 2.00 2
> ESRI Shields
> ESRI Surveyor
> ESRI Telecom
> ESRI Transportation & Civic
> ESRI US Forestry 1
> ESRI US Forestry 2
> ESRI US MUTCD 1
> ESRI US MUTCD 2
> ESRI US MUTCD 3
> ESRI Weather
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free licensed alternative to ESRI map fonts

[Jody Garnett]

I think that is a good idea, and something our marketing committee could
very carefully do.

On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:39 PM Nyall Dawson  wrote:

> Hi list!
>
> One common road block which I find I am encountering when
> organisations are wanting to transition to open source software is
> that they are dependant on the set of ESRI map symbology fonts. While
> there is a large number of quality open-licensed map icon sets
> available, there are currently none which are "drop-in" replacements
> for these ESRI font symbol sets.
>
> Has anyone else run into this issue? Any suggestions for approaches to
> overcome this? Would there be any interest in OSGEO funding creation
> of openly licensed alternatives to these fonts?
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Projects] Status report for April - System Contract I 2020

[Jody Garnett]

> 1) Rebuilding Wiki.  I built a new debian 10 container with latest
> Wikimedia, PHP, apache installed  -- but still exploring the db and stuff
> to
> create a script to chuck bad user accounts.
> I also need to retest the data restore script I have setup and revisit some
> plugins that did not come thru (no upgrade path for them).
>
> https://wiki.new.osgeo.org  (this is running on OSGeo3)
>
> I'm hoping to do the final migration sometime late May.
>
> Once this is done we can setup a dev of this new version to do the LDAP
> integration.  This we can contract out -- we have two proposals from
> outside
> contractors for LDAP work.
>

I just wanted to be encouraging on this! Really glad to see it going ahead.

2) Server Monitoring

 ..

Grafana is running on OSGeo3 monitor container -> https://monitor.osgeo.org
> (all OSGeo LDAP users can log in to see the metrics).
> I whitelisted it on OSGeo7 and OSGeo4 so it can query the Prometheus
> servers
> for monitor stats.
>

Thanks, I eventually managed to start a dashboard so I could find osgeo3
again quickly.

3) https://repo.osgeo.org -- Jody Garnett spear-headed this effort.  The
> Repo service is running Nexus repository management.
> Feel free to login and check it out and if you want to use it in some way
> for your projects -- Please put in a trac ticket -
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/
> Nexus supports the following kinds of repos - Maven, Docker Registry, Apt,
> Yum, Nuget, R CPAN, RubyGems, npm (and some other stuff I've never heard
> of)
>
> At the moment the following projects are using it (GeoTools, GeoServer,
> GeoNetwork -- for their maven repo), (PostGIS / GEOS to manage docker
> containers we use for drone bot regression testing).
>

GeoNetwork just voted to use it, going to try and connect it up this week.
GeoServer also plans to use docker for help facilitate automated cite
testing.

4) https://matrix.osgeo.org -- container running Matrix (synapse server
> https://matrix.org/docs/guides/installing-synapse )  bridges with our
> existing IRC channels and can be used for private chat rooms like GSoc ones
> for example Requires an OSGeo LDAP account to use.  Talk to Sandro
> Santilli if you have
> questions about how to use it.
>

I highly recommend this, the killer feature is the ability to see prior
chat history.

>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] License for documentation

[Jody Garnett]

In general osgeo recommends use of Creative Commons license for
documentation, in order afford writers the same "remix" culture we enjoy in
our open source projects. The alternative is of course the writing practice
of "quoting" and "citation" but does does not provide the same ability to
format shift and otherwise enjoy playing with words.

As example GeoTools license page:
https://docs.geotools.org/latest/userguide/welcome/license.html

It is a pain when folks try and use open source licenses to cover
documentation as it does not really fit :)
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 06:36, Pierre Abbat  wrote:

> On Friday, 28 February 2020 02:40:30 EST Mateusz Loskot wrote:
> > Are you considering separate licences, one for source code
> > and one for documentation?
>
> Yes. All the source code files have a note at the top, except the icons,
> for
> which the note is in the QRC file. The documentation files don't have such
> a
> note yet.
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can a program generate its own logo?

[Jody Garnett]

JTS generates its own logo, so yes :)
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On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 at 09:05, Pierre Abbat  wrote:

> Clotilde is one of the Bezitopo programs. It outputs an approximation to
> an
> Euler spiral, which is used in designing highways, parkways, and
> railroads, so
> that the approximation can be offset to get a boundary for the lot that
> the
> road is on.
>
> I am thinking of creating a logo for Clotilde consisting of Euler spirals,
> maybe with the approximation thereto making a visual effect. I could
> generate
> the logo either with clotilde or bezitest, or with another program that I
> keep
> to myself, using the Bezitopo library. Which is preferable?
>
> Pierre
> --
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>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for contributors

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On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 at 23:34, Pierre Abbat  wrote:

> I'd like to find some people to contribute to Bezitopo or PerfectTIN. They
> are
> in the initial stages of incubation. They're both on my GitHub site,
> https://
> github.com/phma/. Bezitopo also has a website at http://
> bezitopo.org.
>

The projects are indeed now listed in the osgeo directory (for folks to
learn more):

a) https://www.osgeo.org/projects/bezitopo/
b) https://www.osgeo.org/projects/perfecttin/

OSGeo incubation is a longer term activity.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for contributors

[Jody Garnett]

Thanks for reaching out Pierre:

Perhaps you could spend a moment introducing the projects and describe what
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On Fri, 31 Jan 2020 at 23:34, Pierre Abbat  wrote:

> I'd like to find some people to contribute to Bezitopo or PerfectTIN. They
> are
> in the initial stages of incubation. They're both on my GitHub site,
> https://
> github.com/phma/. Bezitopo also has a website at http://
> bezitopo.org.
>
> For Bezitopo, I'd like to define an internal (and maybe an external)
> representation of raw data files for both total stations and GPS systems.
> The
> input for least-squares adjustment will be in this format; I'll use a
> survey
> I've done as test data. Anyone interested in designing the data structure,
> please join the Bezitopo mailing list.
>
> If you can enter instances of projections (Lambert conformal conic and
> Gauss-
> Krüger transverse Mercator), that would help the program be usable in more
> locations. Also, if you know benchmarks in the Alaska panhandle or in
> Switzerland, that would help me make sure that oblique Mercator is
> correct.
> See testprojection() in bezitest.cpp for how I used Oakland and BV067202
> as
> test data for conformal conic and transverse Mercator, respectively.
>
> Also, any ellipsoids that Bezitopo doesn't already have, to go with the
> projections, would be a help.
>
> Both programs need button icons drawn for the different feet. They have
> icons,
> but they're all the same, so the only way to see which foot you've
> selected is
> the tool tip.
>
> Even if you just want to understand the code, to increase the bus number,
> I'd
> appreciate that. Some of the methods have quite high McCabe numbers, and
> the
> quarter function which I'm writing (I still have to make it lock the TIN)
> is
> pretty complicated.
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Flickr FOSS4G and OSGeo photo history deadline Feb 5th

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Ian can I ask where you backed your photos up to? The only thing i use
flickr for is joining the osgeo group, and would *love* to see our group
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On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 07:40, Jody Garnett  wrote:

> Cool, I like that the script grabs the description and metadata. Do you
> think the script could be adapted to download from our group?
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2019 at 12:30 AM Ian Turton  wrote:
>
>> I'm using https://github.com/helenst/flickr-backup to back my photos up.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 at 05:19, Jody Garnett  wrote:
>>
>>> Last chance to see this slice of our history:
>>>
>>> - https://www.flickr.com/groups/osgeo/
>>> - https://www.flickr.com/groups/foss4g/
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 25 Jan 2019 at 19:58, Jody Garnett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> As covered on discuss a couple months ago, And covered in the board
>>>> meeting on Monday:
>>>>
>>>> Our OSGeo, FOSS4G and FOSS4G-NA photos on flicker may be reduced on Feb
>>>> 5th as some photos are removed.
>>>>
>>>> Since these photos were shared with our groups we do not really know
>>>> which ones will be removed. Photographers are asked to subscribe with a
>>>> monthly fee (or have a limit of 1000 photos).
>>>>
>>>> It is not really possible for us as a group to do much, which is a
>>>> shame for the internet as Flickr has a wide range of CC images (since they
>>>> did a good job of explaining open licenses and making them easily to use.)
>>>>
>>>> Q: Can we throw the images on OSGeo next cloud?
>>>>
>>>> Q: Should we only copy the CC images? Or should we copy everything and
>>>> try and reach authors before sharing?
>>>>
>>>> Aside: Many participants missed the CC license step - which is too bad
>>>> as it is a good “first time” experience at contributing open content.
>>>>
>>>> Q: Anyone know of an API we could use to grab our images?
>>>>
>>>> Q: Any other Flickr groups we should capture for our history?
>>>> --
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] checking closure of legal descriptions

[Jody Garnett]

OSGeo is a community of folks making use of and developing open source
applications.

What you are describing is a very difficult issue (and a request I have
seen before). Indeed I watched a good presentation on the topic at one of
our foss4g events.

I do not know of any open source team working on managing legal boundaries,
perhaps others here would be interested in joining you.

On Sun, Jan 26, 2020 at 2:52 AM Pierre Abbat  wrote:

> I'm surveying a lot and had to check the legal description against what I
> found on the ground to find if a certain iron was right (it wasn't). The
> legal
> description doesn't close, so I tried to find the surveyor who drew the
> map
> that the legal description was drawn from. I searched the web for his name
> and
> contacted the company I found. A few days later, I got a response that all
> his
> maps are at another company, and I should contact either of two surveyors,
> both of whom I know, to get the map. A few more days later, one of these
> surveyors emailed me the map.
>
> I have to search the chain of title back to when that map was drawn. So I
> searched the local GIS and downloaded deeds. The oldest one has six errors
> in
> it: "at" is misspelled "a1", "et ux" (and wife) is misspelled "el ux", the
> lot
> is between two streets originally named Delta and Della one of which is
> misspelled "Delia", "north" is misspelled "worth", and two short segments
> were
> left out of lines in different directions. Subsequent lawyers corrected
> the
> typos and misused the word "sic" in correcting "Delia", but none of them
> checked the closure and corrected the two segments.
>
> I think that a tool that could take a pasted legal description, parse it,
> draw
> it, and check for closure would be useful to lawyers. What do you think?
> Does
> it fall within the scope of OSGeo?
>
> Pierre
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Bezitopo 0.1.5 released

[Jody Garnett]

Can we take this over to the “incubation” list please? (CCing incubation
list).

We gotta check a couple things, see
https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/ heading “how to lost
your project on the OSGeo website” :)

When that is done we give you permission to author a project page.

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 10:52 AM Pierre Abbat  wrote:

> On Wednesday, 25 December 2019 16.14.47 EST Jody Garnett wrote:
> > Thanks for sharing, if Bezitopo is open source software or free software
> > (you did not say the license) - please consider listing it on the OSGeo
> > website so others can find it :)
>
> It's LGPL3 (was GPL until recently). Where should I put it?
>
> Pierre
> --
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>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020

[Jody Garnett]

It is okay I found the topic covered in meeting notes from November and
updated the 2020 budget wiki page.

Still waiting on discussion from incubation and marketing committee.

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 2:49 PM Angelos Tzotsos 
wrote:

> Hi Jody,
>
> I will post an update regarding the budget after the board F2F video
> meeting this Monday.
>
> Best,
> Angelos
>
> On 12/25/19 7:42 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
> > Angelos:
> >
> > Our GeoTools PMC is not meeting over the holiday period, although we did
> > discuss general priorities for next year.
> > Would you prefer I make something up as project officer? To at least
> > provide guidance to the board ...
> >
> > I imagine many other projects are in a similar spot.
> > --
> > Jody Garnett
> >
> > On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 at 19:35, Angelos Tzotsos 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Please submit your budget requests by Dec 30th so we can start drafting
> >> the 2020 budget.
> >>
> >> Happy holidays,
> >> Angelos
> >>
> >> On 12/9/19 9:38 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
> >>> Dear OSGeo project members and committees,
> >>>
> >>> Over the previous years, OSGeo has been proud to support a growing
> >>> number of project events, such as code sprints, developer meetings,
> >>> and user conferences.
> >>>
> >>> OSGeo is reaching out to all committees, including project steering
> >>> committees, to help plan our budget for 2020.
> >>>
> >>> As in last year, the board is discussing about assigning a starting
> >>> budget of 2000$ to all graduated projects who have reported to the
> >>> board the last 12 months (e.g. during the AGM or directly to a board
> >>> meeting).
> >>>
> >>> For projects with more of a plan (to pursue a specific goal) projects
> >>> are welcome to send a more detailed request for approval (see detailed
> >>> budget requests from 2019 e.g.
> >>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GvSIG_Budget_2019)
> >>>
> >>> A good idea is to focus on OSGeo participation, for example attending
> >>> the AGM or OSGeo code sprint. Also keep in mind OSGeo goals as an
> >>> organization, (e.g. interoperability goal: CITE compliance or
> >>> participation developing new standards)
> >>>
> >>> We would like to ask you to help us with budget proposals to assist
> >>> your project. This will help us set aside a realistic amount of
> funding.
> >>>
> >>> Please add your project info to the budget draft at:
> >>>
> >>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2020
> >>>
> >>> ideally by Dec 30 ahead of our next board meeting.
> >>>
> >>> When making a budget request please keep in mind the vision and goals
> >>> of our foundation, along with any obligations you wish to meet.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you.
> >>>
> >>> On behalf of the OSGeo Board,
> >>>
> >>> Angelos
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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> >> Charter Member
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> >> http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Bezitopo 0.1.5 released

[Jody Garnett]

Thanks for sharing, if Bezitopo is open source software or free software
(you did not say the license) - please consider listing it on the OSGeo
website so others can find it :)

On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 7:14 PM Pierre Abbat  wrote:

> Bezitopo consists of several programs:
> * Bezitest is the test program.
> * Bezitopo is a command-line program, which I use mainly to check closure
> and
> to convert pointlists from PENZD to PNEZD. Eventually it will be renamed
> bezitopo-cli and what is now ViewTIN will take over.
> * Clotilde computes approximations to Euler spiralarcs.
> * Convertgeoid converts geoid files from one format to another, resamples
> them, and makes excerpts of them.
> * Pangeoid does nothing yet. It's going to be a GUI version of
> Convertgeoid.
> * SiteCheck reads a TIN file and is supposed to let you walk around with a
> GPS
> system and check it for accuracy, but I have no interface to a system yet.
> * Transmer computes coefficients for transverse Mercator projections.
> * ViewTIN reads a list of points, breaklines, and criteria for including
> or
> excluding points, makes a TIN, and draws contours. Once it can also draw
> line
> segments and has the drawing object list and layers working, I'll rename
> it to
> Bezitopo. It's intended to be a CAD program for land surveying (as
> distinct
> from a general-purpose CAD program with surveying tacked on), but it isn't
> there yet.
>
> You can download it from http://bezitopo.org/bezitopo-0.1.5.html . If
> you'd
> like to contribute, please see http://bezitopo.org/developers.html and
> join
> the mailing list. You don't have to be a coder. Some tasks you could do
> are:
> * Draw the three foot icons (PerfectTIN needs them too)
> * Translate strings
> * Enter map projections (SPC and whatever is used in other countries)
> * Find samples and specifications of geoid file formats
> * Find information about the offsets of ellipsoids.
>
> Pierre
> --
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>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020

[Jody Garnett]

Angelos:

Our GeoTools PMC is not meeting over the holiday period, although we did
discuss general priorities for next year.
Would you prefer I make something up as project officer? To at least
provide guidance to the board ...

I imagine many other projects are in a similar spot.
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On Mon, 23 Dec 2019 at 19:35, Angelos Tzotsos  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Please submit your budget requests by Dec 30th so we can start drafting
> the 2020 budget.
>
> Happy holidays,
> Angelos
>
> On 12/9/19 9:38 PM, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:
> > Dear OSGeo project members and committees,
> >
> > Over the previous years, OSGeo has been proud to support a growing
> > number of project events, such as code sprints, developer meetings,
> > and user conferences.
> >
> > OSGeo is reaching out to all committees, including project steering
> > committees, to help plan our budget for 2020.
> >
> > As in last year, the board is discussing about assigning a starting
> > budget of 2000$ to all graduated projects who have reported to the
> > board the last 12 months (e.g. during the AGM or directly to a board
> > meeting).
> >
> > For projects with more of a plan (to pursue a specific goal) projects
> > are welcome to send a more detailed request for approval (see detailed
> > budget requests from 2019 e.g.
> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GvSIG_Budget_2019)
> >
> > A good idea is to focus on OSGeo participation, for example attending
> > the AGM or OSGeo code sprint. Also keep in mind OSGeo goals as an
> > organization, (e.g. interoperability goal: CITE compliance or
> > participation developing new standards)
> >
> > We would like to ask you to help us with budget proposals to assist
> > your project. This will help us set aside a realistic amount of funding.
> >
> > Please add your project info to the budget draft at:
> >
> > https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2020
> >
> > ideally by Dec 30 ahead of our next board meeting.
> >
> > When making a budget request please keep in mind the vision and goals
> > of our foundation, along with any obligations you wish to meet.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > On behalf of the OSGeo Board,
> >
> > Angelos
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Improving usability of INSPIRE data in FOSS4G client applications

[Jody Garnett]

I think my point was that there is often funding available for servers to
make new standards available; but without funding libraries to make new
standards accessible *to developers* these activities follow the "build it
and they will come" hope of the field of dreams movie.

I encourage everyone involved to look at the bigger whole-use architecture
picture, identify weak areas and seek out funding/collaboration/advocacy
opportunities. We are notoriously poor at funding core library development,
required to make services available to developers. I appreciate you current
activity evaluating client applications as a step in identifying gaps;
perhaps JRC can reach out to the new OSGeo board as they identify community
and partner goals for 2020 :)

aside: One of my hopes for the new OGCAPI activities is that they include
an OpenAPI REST endpoint that can be used to generate very simple clients
to talk to specific datasets. This will make geospatial data available to a
wider developer community, but it comes at some tradeoffs. I expect the
servers to be less capable initially (something we we can work on over
time) and I expect many of the resulting applications to be brittle (with a
hard coded generated client that will break as data products change).
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On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 09:51, Marco Minghini 
wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Maria and Jochen: many thanks for your positive feedback on our work, we
> are happy to know that this is useful.
>
> Jody: thanks for your suggestion. Two quick comments here. First, the main
> purpose of the comparison was to give INSPIRE implementers an idea of which
> functionality is supported by which client so that they can make an
> informed choice when deciding which solution(s) to use. Also, although
> improvements are clearly possible, please note that in many cases OGR
> already provides the needed functionality but the clients themselves are
> not making the best use of it. This is a clear example about QGIS [1]: a
> simple fix in an OGR-related configuration option would generate an immense
> benefit to INSPIRE users.
>
> Best regards,
> Alex and Marco
>
> [1] https://github.com/qgis/QGIS/issues/29641
> <https://www.mdpi.com/journal/remotesensing/special_issues/appl_VGI>
>
>
> Il giorno gio 12 dic 2019 alle ore 23:35 Jody Garnett <
> jody.garn...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> Alex and Marco:
>>
>> For wider use of INSPIRE data please consider funding client libraries,
>> GeoTools, OGR, etc...
>> Adding support for the data formats, and the web services, to libraries
>> allow integration in a wind range of applications, utilities and automation
>> activities.
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 17:09, Marco Minghini 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> at the European Commission - Joint Research Centre (JRC) we have been
>>> working with our Contractors (WeTransform and Epsilon Italia) on a set of
>>> actions aimed at improving the usability of INSPIRE data sets. For those
>>> who are not familiar with INSPIRE [1], this is the European Spatial Data
>>> Infrastructure (SDI) built on top EU Member States infrastructures to
>>> support European environmental policies.
>>>
>>> The rationale behind these actions is that GML is the default encoding
>>> for INSPIRE data because INSPIRE xml schemas are generated automatically
>>> from the conceptual UML models. These schemas are complex and many existing
>>> (web, desktop and mobile) client applications are not able to fully consume
>>> or make use of data shared according to these schemas.
>>>
>>> Two actions have been completed over the last year in order to:
>>> 1) improve client support for INSPIRE data
>>> 2) develop an alternative encoding for INSPIRE data (GeoJSON)
>>>
>>> Within the first Action [2], we compiled a "can I use" matrix [3]
>>> describing which functionality associated with the consumption of INSPIRE
>>> data (both in GML and GeoJSON) is supported by which client. The clients
>>> tested are QGIS, GRASS GIS, hale studio, OpenLayers and LeafletJS as well
>>> as some proprietary solutions.
>>>
>>> This e-mail is first of all to inform you about this Action and to show
>>> that, as you can notice in [3], open source solutions are currently the
>>> most successful ones, but some improvement is still possible. In this
>>> regard, we have established communication with the software PSC and/or
>>> communities and discussed the prioritisation of functionalities that should
>>> be improved or developed for each software to best satisfy

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Improving usability of INSPIRE data in FOSS4G client applications

[Jody Garnett]

Alex and Marco:

For wider use of INSPIRE data please consider funding client libraries,
GeoTools, OGR, etc...
Adding support for the data formats, and the web services, to libraries
allow integration in a wind range of applications, utilities and automation
activities.
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 17:09, Marco Minghini 
wrote:

> Dear all,
> at the European Commission - Joint Research Centre (JRC) we have been
> working with our Contractors (WeTransform and Epsilon Italia) on a set of
> actions aimed at improving the usability of INSPIRE data sets. For those
> who are not familiar with INSPIRE [1], this is the European Spatial Data
> Infrastructure (SDI) built on top EU Member States infrastructures to
> support European environmental policies.
>
> The rationale behind these actions is that GML is the default encoding for
> INSPIRE data because INSPIRE xml schemas are generated automatically from
> the conceptual UML models. These schemas are complex and many existing
> (web, desktop and mobile) client applications are not able to fully consume
> or make use of data shared according to these schemas.
>
> Two actions have been completed over the last year in order to:
> 1) improve client support for INSPIRE data
> 2) develop an alternative encoding for INSPIRE data (GeoJSON)
>
> Within the first Action [2], we compiled a "can I use" matrix [3]
> describing which functionality associated with the consumption of INSPIRE
> data (both in GML and GeoJSON) is supported by which client. The clients
> tested are QGIS, GRASS GIS, hale studio, OpenLayers and LeafletJS as well
> as some proprietary solutions.
>
> This e-mail is first of all to inform you about this Action and to show
> that, as you can notice in [3], open source solutions are currently the
> most successful ones, but some improvement is still possible. In this
> regard, we have established communication with the software PSC and/or
> communities and discussed the prioritisation of functionalities that should
> be improved or developed for each software to best satisfy user needs.
>
> Whenever other encodings (e.g. GeoPackage) for INSPIRE data will become
> available, the same approach should be followed.
>
> In addition, since the Action is formally completed but the outcomes will
> still be very important for the INSPIRE community in the future, we are
> currently exploring how to ensure the sustainability of the tool. In
> particular, we would open an invitation to anyone (project developers,
> users or communities, or simply interested people) to contribute to keep
> the matrix up-to-date by testing new/future versions of specific OSGeo
> tools (in particular those mentioned above - QGIS, GRASS GIS, OpenLayers
> and LeafletJS - but also other tools). The tests, described at [4], consist
> of general GIS tasks and do not require INSPIRE-specific knowledge.
> Interested people can also submit content through issues or pull requests
> in the GitHub repository [5] or contact us.
>
> Thank you all for your attention.
> Best regards,
> Alex and Marco
>
>
> [1] https://inspire.ec.europa.eu
> [2]
> https://webgate.ec.europa.eu/fpfis/wikis/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=418580131
> [3] https://inspire-mif.github.io/caniuse/generator/out.html
> [4] https://github.com/INSPIRE-MIF/caniuse/tree/master/docs
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GeoServer CITE Test Automation Request for Proposal

[Jody Garnett]

I have updated the GSIP-176
<https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GISP-176> now to reflect the
successful bid, the pdf
<https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-176/automation_proposal.pdf>
is attached (in the tasks section).
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 12:22, Jody Garnett  wrote:

> Thank you Dirk,
>
> Updated for today is that the PSC has select a successful proposal form
> GeoSolutions, and I confirmed I can upload this proposal to our wiki for
> interested parties.
>
> Our RFP outlined a solid requirement to work with the CITE Team repos as
> provided (and not fork this time). So expect some more
> collaboration/feedback from our community.
>
>
> We would really like to see the CITE team participate i our OSGeo
> community sprints and collaborate directly on these activities. Indeed CITE
> took part in last years sprint and worked a bit on the OSGeo "incubation"
> graduation checklist which was great to see (CITE is part of the osgeo
> community projects, and was accepted into the incubation process but has
> not shown much progress yet).
>
> --
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>
>
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 11:14, Dirk Stenger  wrote:
>
>> Hi Jody and everyone else working on this activity,
>>
>> We, as CITE Lead Compliance Tools, are very much in favor of this idea.
>> This is, in our opinion, a good example how OSGeo projects can work
>> together and benefit from each other. Of course, we are interested in the
>> results of this activity as this is also a great opportunity for TEAM
>> Engine and related test suites to advance and to get more known.
>>
>> So, if you have any questions or if you need help, you are very much
>> welcome to contact us. The OGC CITE team is willing to support the activity
>> as much as possible.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dirk
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 11.12.19 um 18:11 schrieb Torsten Friebe:
>>
>> That would be great to have a central Jenkins CI instance at OSGeo
>> infrastructure. Having such a docker based test environment for all OSGeo
>> projects implementing OGC standards would definitely ease the check for
>> compliance.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Torsten
>> Am 10.12.19 um 20:58 schrieb Jody Garnett:
>>
>> Well in this case we have had several false starts, simply too big an
>> activity to tackle on volunteer time.
>>
>> The GeoServer PSC is voting on a received proposal now, primarily based
>> around docker images. The resulting work will be public (and could be
>> adapted to a Jenkins instances hosted by SAC for example).
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 12:14, Torsten Friebe  wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Jody,
>>>
>>> That's an interesting activity. The deegree project has an similar
>>> outstanding issue: https://github.com/deegree/deegree3/issues/773
>>>
>>> It would be great to learn how the GeoServer project is going to
>>> implement this.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Torsten
>>> Am 13.11.19 um 07:04 schrieb Jody Garnett:
>>>
>>> The correct link is https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-176
>>>
>>> I would also like to thank everyone who has supported this activity via
>>> sponsorship and donation.  Special thanks to sponsors Gaia3D, and OSGeo.UK
>>> for help making this activity possible.
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 22:00, Jody Garnett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> GeoServer PSC has an outstanding maintenance activity
>>>> <https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/CITE-Test-Upgrade> to
>>>> automate CITE testing for our build server and have put together a budget
>>>> of between $10,000 and $12,000 USD towards this activity.
>>>>
>>>> If you or your organization is interested in this work please respond
>>>> to the geoserver-devel email list with your proposal by the end of
>>>> November. Applicants are welcome to attend bi-weekly GeoServer meeting for
>>>> any clarification of requirements and participate in the review process.
>>>> For details, including detailed requirements, see GISP-176
>>>> <https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GISP-176>.
>>>> --
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>>>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GeoServer CITE Test Automation Request for Proposal

[Jody Garnett]

Thank you Dirk,

Updated for today is that the PSC has select a successful proposal form
GeoSolutions, and I confirmed I can upload this proposal to our wiki for
interested parties.

Our RFP outlined a solid requirement to work with the CITE Team repos as
provided (and not fork this time). So expect some more
collaboration/feedback from our community.


We would really like to see the CITE team participate i our OSGeo community
sprints and collaborate directly on these activities. Indeed CITE took part
in last years sprint and worked a bit on the OSGeo "incubation" graduation
checklist which was great to see (CITE is part of the osgeo community
projects, and was accepted into the incubation process but has not shown
much progress yet).

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On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 at 11:14, Dirk Stenger  wrote:

> Hi Jody and everyone else working on this activity,
>
> We, as CITE Lead Compliance Tools, are very much in favor of this idea.
> This is, in our opinion, a good example how OSGeo projects can work
> together and benefit from each other. Of course, we are interested in the
> results of this activity as this is also a great opportunity for TEAM
> Engine and related test suites to advance and to get more known.
>
> So, if you have any questions or if you need help, you are very much
> welcome to contact us. The OGC CITE team is willing to support the activity
> as much as possible.
>
> Regards,
> Dirk
>
>
>
> Am 11.12.19 um 18:11 schrieb Torsten Friebe:
>
> That would be great to have a central Jenkins CI instance at OSGeo
> infrastructure. Having such a docker based test environment for all OSGeo
> projects implementing OGC standards would definitely ease the check for
> compliance.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Torsten
> Am 10.12.19 um 20:58 schrieb Jody Garnett:
>
> Well in this case we have had several false starts, simply too big an
> activity to tackle on volunteer time.
>
> The GeoServer PSC is voting on a received proposal now, primarily based
> around docker images. The resulting work will be public (and could be
> adapted to a Jenkins instances hosted by SAC for example).
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>
>
> On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 12:14, Torsten Friebe  wrote:
>
>> Dear Jody,
>>
>> That's an interesting activity. The deegree project has an similar
>> outstanding issue: https://github.com/deegree/deegree3/issues/773
>>
>> It would be great to learn how the GeoServer project is going to
>> implement this.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Torsten
>> Am 13.11.19 um 07:04 schrieb Jody Garnett:
>>
>> The correct link is https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-176
>>
>> I would also like to thank everyone who has supported this activity via
>> sponsorship and donation.  Special thanks to sponsors Gaia3D, and OSGeo.UK
>> for help making this activity possible.
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 22:00, Jody Garnett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> GeoServer PSC has an outstanding maintenance activity
>>> <https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/CITE-Test-Upgrade> to
>>> automate CITE testing for our build server and have put together a budget
>>> of between $10,000 and $12,000 USD towards this activity.
>>>
>>> If you or your organization is interested in this work please respond to
>>> the geoserver-devel email list with your proposal by the end of November.
>>> Applicants are welcome to attend bi-weekly GeoServer meeting for any
>>> clarification of requirements and participate in the review process. For
>>> details, including detailed requirements, see GISP-176
>>> <https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GISP-176>.
>>> --
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>>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GeoServer CITE Test Automation Request for Proposal

[Jody Garnett]

Well in this case we have had several false starts, simply too big an
activity to tackle on volunteer time.

The GeoServer PSC is voting on a received proposal now, primarily based
around docker images. The resulting work will be public (and could be
adapted to a Jenkins instances hosted by SAC for example).
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On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 12:14, Torsten Friebe  wrote:

> Dear Jody,
>
> That's an interesting activity. The deegree project has an similar
> outstanding issue: https://github.com/deegree/deegree3/issues/773
>
> It would be great to learn how the GeoServer project is going to implement
> this.
>
> Cheers
>
> Torsten
> Am 13.11.19 um 07:04 schrieb Jody Garnett:
>
> The correct link is https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-176
>
> I would also like to thank everyone who has supported this activity via
> sponsorship and donation.  Special thanks to sponsors Gaia3D, and OSGeo.UK
> for help making this activity possible.
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
>
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 22:00, Jody Garnett  wrote:
>
>> GeoServer PSC has an outstanding maintenance activity
>> <https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/CITE-Test-Upgrade> to
>> automate CITE testing for our build server and have put together a budget
>> of between $10,000 and $12,000 USD towards this activity.
>>
>> If you or your organization is interested in this work please respond to
>> the geoserver-devel email list with your proposal by the end of November.
>> Applicants are welcome to attend bi-weekly GeoServer meeting for any
>> clarification of requirements and participate in the review process. For
>> details, including detailed requirements, see GISP-176
>> <https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GISP-176>.
>> --
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>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo Budget 2020

[Jody Garnett]

Angelos:

This email is very similar to the one sent last year, the goals listed for
last year were strategic in nature (CITE compliance, participation
developing new standards). Do these goals reflect the strategy of OSGeo in
2020?
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On Mon, 9 Dec 2019 at 20:39, Angelos Tzotsos  wrote:

> Dear OSGeo project members and committees,
>
> Over the previous years, OSGeo has been proud to support a growing
> number of project events, such as code sprints, developer meetings, and
> user conferences.
>
> OSGeo is reaching out to all committees, including project steering
> committees, to help plan our budget for 2020.
>
> As in last year, the board is discussing about assigning a starting
> budget of 2000$ to all graduated projects who have reported to the board
> the last 12 months (e.g. during the AGM or directly to a board meeting).
>
> For projects with more of a plan (to pursue a specific goal) projects
> are welcome to send a more detailed request for approval (see detailed
> budget requests from 2019 e.g.
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GvSIG_Budget_2019)
>
> A good idea is to focus on OSGeo participation, for example attending
> the AGM or OSGeo code sprint. Also keep in mind OSGeo goals as an
> organization, (e.g. interoperability goal: CITE compliance or
> participation developing new standards)
>
> We would like to ask you to help us with budget proposals to assist your
> project. This will help us set aside a realistic amount of funding.
>
> Please add your project info to the budget draft at:
>
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2020
>
> ideally by Dec 30 ahead of our next board meeting.
>
> When making a budget request please keep in mind the vision and goals of
> our foundation, along with any obligations you wish to meet.
>
> Thank you.
>
> On behalf of the OSGeo Board,
>
> Angelos
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] My last letter as President

[Jody Garnett]

Thank you for your service Maria, it was a pleasure working with you :)

On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 8:09 AM María Arias de Reyna 
wrote:

> Dear fellow OSGeoers,
>
> I want to congratulate all the recently elected members of the Board,
> specially the new ones! I hope you enjoy the journey as much as I did
> and contribute with your unique view to our organization. I want to
> thank all the people that helped me on this two-year journey and I
> hope I helped others on this journey too. OSGeo is evolving to be more
> inclusive, diverse and bigger than ever and I am proud of you all.
>
> As some of you may know, some months ago I decided to go back into the
> barricades and far from public exposure. I think rotating positions
> inside a voluntary organization is something very healthy to do and
> gives you a unique perspective. That's why I decided to participate on
> a proposal for FOSS4G 2021 and not repeat elections again for the
> Board.
>
> I hereby resign as President to let one of the current members of the
> Board take this position. I have always a strong advocate that this
> kind of positions should be taken by Board members, so I want to
> explicitly facilitate the transition. Our current vice-presidents
> Helena Mitasova and Angelos Tzotsos will fill the space until a new
> President is appointed.
>
> I have to say I'm still a bit sad of the geographic, cultural and
> ethnic representation on the Board. I am sure we can change this on
> the following years. Until then, I am confident current members of the
> Board will do a great job representing you all.
>
> See you all in Calgary in 2020!
> María, your former OSGeo President.
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[OSGeo-Discuss] thank you to all candidates

[Jody Garnett]

Just wanted to thank all the candidates (before the votes are tallied up)
for putting yourself forward to serve the community.

One thing I love about board elections (and charter member nominations
before them) is the examples of all the amazing work folks do across our
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GeoServer CITE Test Automation Request for Proposal

[Jody Garnett]

The correct link is https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-176

I would also like to thank everyone who has supported this activity via
sponsorship and donation.  Special thanks to sponsors Gaia3D, and OSGeo.UK
for help making this activity possible.
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On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 at 22:00, Jody Garnett  wrote:

> GeoServer PSC has an outstanding maintenance activity
> <https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/CITE-Test-Upgrade> to
> automate CITE testing for our build server and have put together a budget
> of between $10,000 and $12,000 USD towards this activity.
>
> If you or your organization is interested in this work please respond to
> the geoserver-devel email list with your proposal by the end of November.
> Applicants are welcome to attend bi-weekly GeoServer meeting for any
> clarification of requirements and participate in the review process. For
> details, including detailed requirements, see GISP-176
> <https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GISP-176>.
> --
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[OSGeo-Discuss] GeoServer CITE Test Automation Request for Proposal

[Jody Garnett]

GeoServer PSC has an outstanding maintenance activity
 to automate
CITE testing for our build server and have put together a budget of between
$10,000 and $12,000 USD towards this activity.

If you or your organization is interested in this work please respond to
the geoserver-devel email list with your proposal by the end of November.
Applicants are welcome to attend bi-weekly GeoServer meeting for any
clarification of requirements and participate in the review process. For
details, including detailed requirements, see GISP-176
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] PostGIS 3.0.0 released

[Jody Garnett]

Congratulations to the PostGIS team! Thanks to everyone for your hard work.
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On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 at 21:55, Regina Obe  wrote:

> The PostGIS development Team is happy to finally release PostGIS 3.0.0
>
> after many alphas, betas, and rcs.
>
>
>
> A special thank you  to all the testers and package managers who tried our
> pre-release releases and reported issues.
>
>
>
> Details in the news link below including links to the documentation
>
>
>
> (including English, German, Korean, and Japanese)
>
>
>
> https://postgis.net/2019/10/20/postgis-3.0.0/
>
>
>
> Source Tarball:
>
>
>
> https://download.osgeo.org/postgis/source/postgis-3.0.0.tar.gz
>
>
>
> NEWS: https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/postgis/postgis/raw/tag/3.0.0/NEWS
>
>
>
>
>
> Please test and report back issues either on the mailing list or our bug
> tracker:
>
>
>
> https://postgis.net/support/
>
>
>
> Happy spatializing
>
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Regarding visiting OSGeo - KOSSA

[Jody Garnett]

Hyoshin Nam:

OSGeo is an international organization with members all over the world
(including a wonderful local chapter in Korea <http://www.osgeo.kr>). OSGeo
does not have a physical location in Boston, although we have some of our
members who live there and may be able to talk with you.

Please note that many of our software projects are developed in a
distributed fashion, allowing your software developers and system managers
to participate remotely. As an example I work on a project GeoServer
<http://geoserver.org> which has several opportunities for community
development <http://geoserver.org/devel/> an email list for developer
communication and a video chat every couple of weeks, and the last Friday
of each month we devote to fixing bugs.

If you do wish to talk about open source software licenses we have an
incubation
committee <https://www.osgeo.org/about/committees/incubation/> (once again
with an email list <https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/incubator>)
which helps development teams choose a license and set up their projects.

Finally our software foundation occasionally enters into
strategic partnership with industry development groups such as yours. We
have a page on partners and friends <https://www.osgeo.org/partners/> you
can look at for examples. Partners have a formal agreement, friends have a
history of collaboration but no formal agreement in place.
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On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 at 16:13, KOSSA, osskorea  wrote:

> To whom it may concern,
>
> Hello, this is Hyoshin Nam at Korea Open Source Software Association
> (KOSSA) in Seoul.
>
> KOSSA and Korean National IT Industry Promotion Agency (NIPA) has been
> planning an overseas training program for domestic software developers.
> The purpose of this training is to extend and exchange their knowledge and
> techniques in the field and
> also to experience SW related organization and companies where they
> develop open source software and to learn more on license for open-source
> software.
> This overseas program will be conducted between  30 Sept. and 3 Oct. 2019
> and we will be visiting Boston during this period with group of 10
> software developers and system managers.
>
> In this regards, we would like to visit OSGeo to have better
> understanding of what you do in your foundation and also will be grateful
> to have a brief meeting with a person who are related with open source
> software (developing, licencing etc.). If meeting is difficult, a short Q
> session would also be good, too.
> Or if you have visitor's program we can also attend it as well.
>
> We strongly believe that your kind cooperation will give positive impact
> on Korean open-source software field society and strengthen the
> capabilities of Korean developers.
> We also believe that this opportunity could give mutual benefits for both
> of us in someways.
>
> So, if you are to accept our request, please let us know if 30 Sept. would
> good for your, otherwise let us know when is the best time for us to visit
> your foundation.
>
> Thank you in advance for your kind attention and consideration, and we
> look forward to receiving positive reply from you soon.
>
> Best,
>
> Hyoshin Nam
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>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] How big is OSGeo?

[Jody Garnett]

If you check out the yearly AGM slides you can see estimates from a range
of sources (OSGeo userid, wiki logins, charter members, etc...).

There are a lot of great folks in the local chapters that are missed in
this tally, I really hope the 2019 elections can nominate more of these
individuals and honour their contributions.
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On Fri, 6 Sep 2019 at 07:08, Jo Cook  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I was wondering if anyone has recently attempted to estimate the size
> (in people) of OSGeo?
> I thought the easiest approach might be to see the number of people
> subscribed to the discuss list. I'm aware it's not going to catch
> everyone, but it seems reasonable as a measure of the community.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Furthermore, how many people attended FOSS4G in Bucharest this year?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] please join the Local-Chapters mailing list if you represent a Local Chapter

[Jody Garnett]

I am interested in seeing an OSGeo Canada chapter form (ahead of foss4g
2020).

Are any Canadians interested?

There is  wiki page <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Canada> on the subject
(lasted edited in 2018 and 2012).
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On Mon, 2 Sep 2019 at 12:10, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) 
wrote:

> Hello Local-Chapter representatives,
>
> please join the Local-Chapters mailing list if you represent a Local
> Chapter:
>
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/local-chapters
>
> Would be great, as we will start a discussion about
> * having a standard set of tools that are available to FOSS4G teams
> * how to get an exhibition pack
> * AGM (each year before FOSS4G)
> * Events on osgeo.org
> * What do you need from OSgeo to support your Local Chapter
> * and all you would like to discuss with other Local Chapters
>
> See you soon on the Local-Chapters list.
>
> Astrid Emde
>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] osgeo 2019 sponsorship listing

[Jody Garnett]

Just a reminder, with foss4g coming up, if you or your organizations has
financially contributed to an OSGeo activity this year we would like an
opportunity to thank you publicly on our sponsorship page
<http://osgeo.org/sponsors/>.

OSGeo recognizes financial contributions made across local chapters,
meetups, individual OSGeo projects, foundation outreach initiatives, local
FOSS4G events and our annual global FOSS4G conference.

OSGeo sponsorship is accumulated, and we set sponsorship levels with this
in mind:

   - $30,000 USD: Diamond Sponsor
   - $20,000 USD: Platinum Sponsor
   - $10,000 USD: Gold Sponsor
   -   $3,000 USD: Silver Sponsor
   -   $500 USD: Bronze Sponsor

To particpate send an email to treasu...@osgeo.org with your logo, website,
and 2019 financial contributions. For more information please check out
information on how to become a sponsor
<https://www.osgeo.org/about/how-to-become-a-sponsor/>.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo AGM 2019 - FOSS4G Bucharest

[Jody Garnett]

Thanks Maria, I will fill in for GeoTools.

I liked the format where we got all the projects up on stage and passed the
microphone to keep the pauses down, I set up the slide deck with that in
mind.

For projects we ask that project officers (or their representative) attend
that AGM or make plans to attend a board meeting - we really want to know
how the project is doing (looking for more a project *team* update, rather
than a summary of new features). Even if you cannot attend the AGM please
add a slide into the mix anyways (as these slides are very useful after the
event to share what is going on). Indeed you can have more facts on the
slide than speaking allows time for.  As a board we are looking to see if
the budget provided has been effective and what challenges/opportunities
the team is looking towards.

The AGM also includes community projects that are joining us this year, if
you need access to edit please request.
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On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 at 02:24, María Arias de Reyna 
wrote:

> Hello GeoFolks!
>
> We are already editing the AGM slides for this year. All chapters,
> projects and initiatives are invited to present on our annual meeting
> their status updates, their plans for the future and their past
> achievements. This is going to be one minute of fame and shine, don't
> let it pass! It is important for all of us to know what is happening
> everywhere. OSGeo is huge and this is the best way to get a summary of
> all the amazing work we are doing!
>
> The slides are here:
>
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1imiG7x09ry7lGvmS15FCVq2Z7yaICY00fcpXBK27TXY/edit?usp=sharing
> If you want to edit it and still don't have privileges to do so,
> please let me know and tell me which team you represent so I can give
> you privileges.
>
> The rule is KISS[0]: We all have to fit in the time slot of the
> closing plenary session[1], so make sure you use only one (or two)
> slides per team. Be quick and fair. I will be moderating and I am
> going to be very strict: those who exceed their time assigned will
> walk the plank[2] out of the scenario. I won't make exceptions because
> that means that the latest groups will have less time (or no time) to
> shine. If I have to cut a phrase in half, don't doubt it, I will.
>
> We won't know how much time each team will have until we know how many
> teams are going to present. But considering previous years, in
> average, you will have 45 seconds, including the time to enter
> scenario and moving out. This means: every speaker has to be already
> on the back of the scenario while the previous presenter is talking.
> Don't wait for any moderator to introduce you, just start talking when
> the previous speaker is done. You only have one minute for everything
> you are going to do on the scenario. If you are not on the scenario
> when your time starts, you may not be able to present.
>
> I will contact each group in the following days to make sure everyone
> is aware, but don't wait for me to start assembling a team to work on
> this!
>
> Some examples of good slides:
>
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1imiG7x09ry7lGvmS15FCVq2Z7yaICY00fcpXBK27TXY/edit?ts=5d3686f8#slide=id.g403f0344e9_1_0
>
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1imiG7x09ry7lGvmS15FCVq2Z7yaICY00fcpXBK27TXY/edit?ts=5d3686f8#slide=id.g3ffe66376c_16_0
>
> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1imiG7x09ry7lGvmS15FCVq2Z7yaICY00fcpXBK27TXY/edit?ts=5d3686f8#slide=id.g599757ec6b_0_8
>
> Have a nice day!
> María Arias de Reyna, President of OSGeo.
>
>
> [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KISS_principle
> [1] https://2019.foss4g.org/schedule/full-schedule/
> [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_the_plank
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] About OSGeo.org Web page

[Jody Garnett]

Thank you Nobusuke! You should be all setup now (made you an editor also so
you can publish once you write the page).

In addition to adding a new event <http://www.osgeo.org/events/> you should
also be able to edit the local chapter page
<https://www.osgeo.org/local-chapters/osgeo-japan-chapter/> (which looks
very empty).
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On Fri, 12 Jul 2019 at 07:13, Nobusuke Iwasaki  wrote:

> Hi, Jody. This is Nobusuke
> Thank you for your advice!
>
> I had signed in web site as iwasaki.
> Please cofirm it and change my role to "author".
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nobusuke
>
> 2019年7月12日(金) 12:59 Jody Garnett :
>
>> Good evening Nobusuke! Sounds like a great event ...
>>
>> You can create an event page using your OSGeo ID (
>> https://id.osgeo.org/ldap/create) to sign into the website.
>>
>> Depending on what you want to work on you may need to request an
>> additional role as outlined here: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Website
>>
>> I had a look and you have not signed into the website before, please let
>> me know when you have done so and I can make sure you have the 'author'
>> role to write create new events.
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>>
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 at 20:20, Nobusuke IWASAKI 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear list,
>>>
>>> I'm from OSGeo Japan Chapter.
>>> We will hold FOSS4G local event in Japan and would like to create an
>>> information page in OSGeo.org website.  Can I make web page by myself or
>>> ask to someone?
>>>
>>> And one of the conference (FOSS4G Niigata) had released registration
>>> form.
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeMNrmzHNGSW4nRn9XLoBCf5bE8bNL9gefBGRgzQiVlN2OjoQ/viewform?vc=0=0=1;
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Nobusuke
>>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] About OSGeo.org Web page

[Jody Garnett]

Good evening Nobusuke! Sounds like a great event ...

You can create an event page using your OSGeo ID (
https://id.osgeo.org/ldap/create) to sign into the website.

Depending on what you want to work on you may need to request an additional
role as outlined here: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Website

I had a look and you have not signed into the website before, please let me
know when you have done so and I can make sure you have the 'author' role
to write create new events.
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On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 at 20:20, Nobusuke IWASAKI  wrote:

> Dear list,
>
> I'm from OSGeo Japan Chapter.
> We will hold FOSS4G local event in Japan and would like to create an
> information page in OSGeo.org website.  Can I make web page by myself or
> ask to someone?
>
> And one of the conference (FOSS4G Niigata) had released registration form.
>
> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeMNrmzHNGSW4nRn9XLoBCf5bE8bNL9gefBGRgzQiVlN2OjoQ/viewform?vc=0=0=1;
>
> Best regards,
>
> Nobusuke
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Geomesa

[Jody Garnett]

Please reach out to the GeoMesa mailing list or Gitter channel. The Gitter
channel is quite active so I assume it is working :)

For specific questions about the GeoServer plugin you will have to ask on
the GeoServer user list.

On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 5:46 AM Baghdadi Zineb 
wrote:

> Hello,
> i would like to ask about Geoserver and it's plugins Geomesa accumulo
> doesn't work any guidelines??
> Thank you
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: [talk-ph] Pista ng Mapa 2019

[Jody Garnett]

That looks great, please add to the OSGeo events page :)

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 1:13 AM maning sambale 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> Sharing this event happening in the Philippines this August 1-3.  If
> you are close by, please come!  It's a nice way to connect with
> mappers in the country.  This is also our first community
> event/conference outside of the nation's capital! So we hope to spread
> the open mapping love to more people!
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Eugene Alvin Villar 
> Date: Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 3:57 AM
> Subject: [talk-ph] Pista ng Mapa 2019
> To: OpenStreetMap Philippines 
>
>
> Hello all!
>
> Are you a fan of open geo datasets and free and open-source geospatial
> software and tools? Pista ng Mapa ("Feast of Maps"), the open mapping
> conference in the Philippines, will be held at Foundation University,
> Dumaguete this coming 1–3 August 2019. Registration is free! (Travel
> and accommodations not included.)
>
> Please register and reserve your slot here:
> https://ti.to/PistaNgMapa/2019
>
> We would like to thank our generous sponsors:
> Kaart – http://kaartgroup.com/
> Grab – https://www.grab.com/
> Mapillary – https://www.mapillary.com/
>
> We would also like to acknowledge the support of our host:
> Foundation University – https://www.foundationu.com/
>
> See you there!
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[OSGeo-Discuss] foss4g osgeo booth

[Jody Garnett]

The last couple of years the OSGeo members have helped set up a booth for
our global foss4g conference. Indeed we had a great lounge space last year
that Jeff McKenna and other volunteers used to great effect.

This is a case of individuals stepping up to make it happen, I would like
to ask who is interested and who is available to help.

FOSS4G is a great conference and making sure OSGeo attends "in person" is
important - this is a chance to promote *freedom* to attendees who think
they are attending a *technology* conference :)
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Budget and Money Guidance

[Jody Garnett]

Recently passed by the board, and cleaned up during the code sprint, OSGeo
has a new document
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors#Documents> offering
guidance Budget and Money Guidance
<https://wiki.osgeo.org/images/5/54/Osgeo_financial_guidence.pdf> for
projects, committees, initiatives and events.

One theme I hope is evident is in the above document is that OSGeo is
volunteer lead, people power everything we do.

Thanks to Malena at last the 2018 FOSS4G's code sprint for starting the
ball rolling on this topic.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Join us at the FOSS4G 2019 Community Sprint Saturday 31 August 2019 Bucharest

[Jody Garnett]

Once nice idea from foss4gna was to recognize those participating in the
sprint with a discount to event attendance.

We had the advantage of having the sprint beforehand so we could see who
qualified.

Perhaps an idea for future events.

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 10:33 PM  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> the FOSS4G 2019 Community Sprint [1] will be right after the global
> FOSS4G
> conference [2] and will be your chance to share ideas with the teams,
> and
> to discuss and improve different OSGeo projects. We follow this
> tradition since 2009.
>
> The Sprint will take place Saturday 31 August 2019
> in the University of Bucharest at Faculty of Geography [3] from 9AM
> - 18PM.
>
> It offers a great opportunity to meet OSGeo members and get involved in
> the projects! The Community Sprint is an opportunity for developers and
> non developers to meet with the core team of the projects and get a
> deeper insight into the software
>
> The OSGeo Community Sprint is open to all who wish to participate in one
> or more projects. There is always plenty to do – it’s not all about
> programming. Translation, documentation, feedback, discussions, testing
> – all this is also important for projects so everyone is cordially
> invited to attend the Community sprint!
>
> The Organizing Team is looking forward to your coming!
>
> Please register soon [1] (important for better planning). If you need an
> accomodation take also a look to the accomodation page [4]
>
> See you at FOSS4G 2019!
>
> The FOSS4G 2019 Community Sprint Team
>
>
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2019_Community_Sprint
> [2] http://2019.foss4g.org/
> [3]
> https://en.unibuc.ro/academic-programmes/faculties/faculty-of-geography/
> [4] https://2019.foss4g.org/attending/accomodation/
>
> --
> 
> See you in Bucharest at the FOSS4G Community Sprint 2019
> Saturday 31. August 2019
>
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2019_Community_Sprint
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Download server has moved and requires SSH key access to upload

[Jody Garnett]

We only have one server (build.geoserver.org) that needs to upload.

The key thing is access, many of the build systems use the following to
access the repository:

  
osgeo
Open Source Geospatial Foundation Repository
http://download.osgeo.org/webdav/geotools/

  

This use case should not require any credentials (and no amount of handing
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On Fri, 10 May 2019 at 07:36, Regina Obe  wrote:

> Just and FYI, I moved the download.osgeo.org, upload.osgeo.org to a new
> home
> yesterday.
> It is now on a debian 9, running nginx (instead of Apache)
>
> And most importantly the thing that tripped up a lot of people is I have
> blocked password access.
>
> If you did not have your ssh public keys installed on the old server, it
> means you will not be able to upload your project artifacts.
>
> A couple of people have had issues with this of which I have resolved by
> putting their public key in their home folders.
>
> If you are having issues, please put in a SAC ticket.
>
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/newticket
>
> and one of us will address.
>
> Thanks,
> Regina
>
>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] good article on open source considerations

[Jody Garnett]

Now that open source is a established part of the IT landscape we can start
to see well thought out articles; which are much harder to answer then the
FUD we encountered earlier in the adoption curve.

https://blog.wolfram.com/2019/04/02/why-wolfram-tech-isnt-open-source-a-dozen-reasons/

It is worth thinking through these topics as we still have a lot of
advocacy work to do in our mapping/location industry.

In the specific case of wolfram I love the work and RnD they have done.
Would much rather see symbolic computing (and so on..) have a wider reach
into more fields then be bottled up by one company. Long term I think that
will occur. Short term I like that the open science is taking folks away
from replying on their tools from a “good science is reproducible science”
standpoint.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] foss4gna travel grant program accepting applications until April 3rd

[Jody Garnett]

Can I ask your help in getting word out to applicants, the travel grant
program is a great opportunity to grow our community.

If you are in a financial position to do so please check out the OSGeo
website <https://www.osgeo.org/initiatives/foss4g-travel-grant-program/>
for details on how to donate or sponsor this important initiative.
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On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 14:04, Jody Garnett  wrote:

> FOSS4G-NA 2019 is pleased to be offering a travel grant program:
> https://2019.foss4g-na.org/tgp/
>
> Applications are now open and will need to be in by April 3rd.
>
> Additional assistance is also available by way of volunteering
> opportunities <https://2019.foss4g-na.org/volunteer/>. or for community
> members signed up for the code sprint
> <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4GNA_Code_Sprint_2019>.
>
> We would love to see you in San Diego!
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[OSGeo-Discuss] foss4gna travel grant program accepting applications until April 3rd

[Jody Garnett]

FOSS4G-NA 2019 is pleased to be offering a travel grant program:
https://2019.foss4g-na.org/tgp/

Applications are now open and will need to be in by April 3rd.

Additional assistance is also available by way of volunteering opportunities
<https://2019.foss4g-na.org/volunteer/>. or for community members signed up
for the code sprint <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4GNA_Code_Sprint_2019>
.

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