[OSGeo-Discuss] Correction re dates: FOSDEM 2019: Geospatial Devroom - Call for Participation

2018-11-01 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Dear all,

Apologies for any confusion, the FOSDEM Devroom dates in my previous post
need to be be changed.

The next edition will take place on 2 - 3 February 2019. For the fifth time
there will be a Geospatial devroom and it will be happening on Sunday
*3/2/2018* from 9.00-17.00!

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On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 11:04 AM Marc VLOEMANS 
wrote:

>
> *FOSDEM 2019: Geospatial Devroom - Call for Participation*
>
> Please forward!
>
> FOSDEM is a free and non-commercial event bringing together about 8000
> developers in Brussels, Belgium.
>
> The goal is to provide open source software developers and communities a
> place to meet and share thoughts. The participation is free of charge,
> although donations are welcome.
>
> The next edition will take place on 3 - 4 February 2018. For the fifth
> time there will be a Geospatial devroom and it will be happening on Sunday
> *4/2/2018* from 9.00-17.00!
>
>
>
> Geospatial technologies and mapping used to be specialist work, but
> nowadays location (awareness) and maps are becoming part of many
> products/projects/applications, which usually use only a small subset of
> the possibilities the data and software offer.
>
>
>
> The geospatial devroom is the place to talk about open, geo-/spatial
> related data and software and their community and ecosystem. This includes
> standards and tools, e.g. for spatial databases, and online mapping,
> geospatial services, used for collecting, storing, delivering, analysing,
> and visualizing purposes.
>
>
>
> We welcome submissions about:
>
> * Web and desktop GIS applications;
>
> * Collaborative editing / versioning of geodata and metadata;
>
> * Interoperable geospatial web services and specifications;
>
> * Collection of data using sensors / UAVs / satellites;
>
> * Geo-analytic algorithms / libraries;
>
> * Geospatial extensions for classical databases (indexes, operations) and
> dedicated databases;
>
> * Big geospatial data processing, distributed and scalable GIS
> applications in the Cloud;
>
> * Geospatial information and Smart Cities, IoT and
> Automotive/Autonomous-connected vehicles
>
> * Volunteered Geographic information - Crowdsourced geodata - OpenStreetMap
>
>
>
> HOW TO SUBMIT YOUR PROPOSAL FOR A TALK
>
> Are you thrilled to present your work to other open source developers?
> Would you like to run a discussion? Any other ideas? Please submit your
> proposal at: https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM19
>
>
>
> Make sure to select the 'Geospatial devroom' as 'Track'. If you have an
> account from previous years, you should be using the same. Please specify
> in the notes if you prefer for your presentation either a short timeslot
> (lightning talks ~10 minutes) or a long timeslot (20 minutes presentation +
> discussion). However, note that time slots are indicative and will be
> assigned according to the timing of the session. The DEADLINE for
> submissions is Saturday **1st December 2018**. Notification of acceptance
> will be sent to the Authors by 8/12/2017 at the latest.
>
>
>
> Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to get in touch with
> the organisers of the devroom via marcvloemans1 at gmail dot com! Want to
> know what FOSDEM geospatial is like? Check out the videos and the
> presentations of our previous editions.
>
>
>
> The organizers
>
> Jody Garnett, Anne Ghisla, Martin Hammitzsch, Marc Vloemans
>
>
>
> https://archive.fosdem.org/2016/schedule/track/geospatial/
>
> https://archive.fosdem.org/2017/schedule/track/geospatial/
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Marc Vloemans
>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSDEM 2019: Geospatial Devroom - Call for Participation

2018-11-01 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
*FOSDEM 2019: Geospatial Devroom - Call for Participation*

Please forward!

FOSDEM is a free and non-commercial event bringing together about 8000
developers in Brussels, Belgium.

The goal is to provide open source software developers and communities a
place to meet and share thoughts. The participation is free of charge,
although donations are welcome.

The next edition will take place on 3 - 4 February 2018. For the fifth time
there will be a Geospatial devroom and it will be happening on Sunday
*4/2/2018* from 9.00-17.00!



Geospatial technologies and mapping used to be specialist work, but
nowadays location (awareness) and maps are becoming part of many
products/projects/applications, which usually use only a small subset of
the possibilities the data and software offer.



The geospatial devroom is the place to talk about open, geo-/spatial
related data and software and their community and ecosystem. This includes
standards and tools, e.g. for spatial databases, and online mapping,
geospatial services, used for collecting, storing, delivering, analysing,
and visualizing purposes.



We welcome submissions about:

* Web and desktop GIS applications;

* Collaborative editing / versioning of geodata and metadata;

* Interoperable geospatial web services and specifications;

* Collection of data using sensors / UAVs / satellites;

* Geo-analytic algorithms / libraries;

* Geospatial extensions for classical databases (indexes, operations) and
dedicated databases;

* Big geospatial data processing, distributed and scalable GIS applications
in the Cloud;

* Geospatial information and Smart Cities, IoT and
Automotive/Autonomous-connected vehicles

* Volunteered Geographic information - Crowdsourced geodata - OpenStreetMap



HOW TO SUBMIT YOUR PROPOSAL FOR A TALK

Are you thrilled to present your work to other open source developers?
Would you like to run a discussion? Any other ideas? Please submit your
proposal at: https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM19



Make sure to select the 'Geospatial devroom' as 'Track'. If you have an
account from previous years, you should be using the same. Please specify
in the notes if you prefer for your presentation either a short timeslot
(lightning talks ~10 minutes) or a long timeslot (20 minutes presentation +
discussion). However, note that time slots are indicative and will be
assigned according to the timing of the session. The DEADLINE for
submissions is Saturday **1st December 2018**. Notification of acceptance
will be sent to the Authors by 8/12/2017 at the latest.



Should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to get in touch with
the organisers of the devroom via marcvloemans1 at gmail dot com! Want to
know what FOSDEM geospatial is like? Check out the videos and the
presentations of our previous editions.



The organizers

Jody Garnett, Anne Ghisla, Martin Hammitzsch, Marc Vloemans



https://archive.fosdem.org/2016/schedule/track/geospatial/

https://archive.fosdem.org/2017/schedule/track/geospatial/



Kind regards,

Marc Vloemans

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Osgeo presentation at a Gfoss event in Israel

2018-05-03 Thread Marc Vloemans
Hi
The files for stickers etc are in the wiki.
Am en route so no less link for you. 

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 3 mei 2018 om 18:23 heeft Alex M <tech_...@wildintellect.com> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
>> On 05/03/2018 05:56 AM, anna zanchetta wrote:
>> Hi all gfosser,
>> 
>> me and Micha (cc) are going to participate soon to an event which we didn't
>> organize but are very happy is gonna take place in Tel Aviv on the 11th of
>> June about Open Source GIS.
>> 
>> It will be a good opportunity to present the OSGeo activities and hopefully
>> to start thinking to organize a local chapter here as well.
>> 
>> My question is if there is any ready material online which I could use for
>> a 15-20 mins talk. Other promotional material, like stickers and posters,
>> would be a plus.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Anna,
>> active in the Italian chapter few years ago, currently based in the Middle
>> East
>> 
> 
> Anna,
> 
> You should talk to the Marketing Commmittee
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Committee
> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
> 
> As for a premade slides, the OSGeoLive project has some
> https://live.osgeo.org/en/presentation/index.html#/
> 
> Thanks,
> Alex
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO US National Chapter

2018-03-21 Thread Marc Vloemans
Way to go Randy et al !
Hope you guys can make a mark at FOSS4G NA in May.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 21 mrt. 2018 om 09:37 heeft María Arias de Reyna <dela...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> This is really good news!
> 
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 8:02 PM, Randal Hale
> <rjh...@northrivergeographic.com> wrote:
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> Thanks to a few successful events here in the US, (Especially Boston
>> FOSS4G 2017) several of us have been working toward formation of a US
>> OSGEO Chapter. We've talked to several people in and around the US and
>> multiple people involved in local chapters. I guess consider this a first
>> shout of "Hello OSGEO World".
>> 
>> Following the Guidelines [1] for Chapter formation we have a good start:
>> 
>> 1. Self Organizing: Based on informal discussions with OSGeo members
>> online and at the FOSS4G conference there is a major interest in how to
>> support and build community across the nation. Technocation [2] is a
>> non-profit that can act as a formal home for the OSGeo.US chapter.
>> 
>> 2. Mission Statement: OSGeo.US will cultivate and support local OSGeo
>> chapters and projects in the United States. OSGeo.US will also support
>> activities and events that build awareness of the OSGeo and create
>> opportunities to grow the OSGeo community.
>> 
>> I also realized in this email - we've yet to stick anything on the
>> wiki.osgeo.org site - we'll get that done shortly.
>> 
>> 3. As for an official rep for the chapter: I was nominated by the group
>> to be the official Spokesperson for now. So I'll do what I can to answer
>> emails or drag someone else into the mix to answer them if I can't.
>> 
>> 4. I'll be sending more information to the OSGEO Board - I
>> wanted to start a discussion now and see if there was any angst that I
>> or anyone else could address and if anyone else was interested in
>> helping push this along.
>> 
>> 5. TBD Later
>> 
>> Anyway - Since I've not quit done anything like this before - Excuse
>> anything I've forgotten or not done properly in this first announcement.
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> 
>> [1] http://www2.osgeo.org/content/chapters/guidelines.html
>> 
>> [2] https://technocation.github.io/
>> 
>> --
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>> rjh...@northrivergeographic.com
>> https://www.northrivergeographic.com
>> (423)653-3611
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO US National Chapter

2018-03-15 Thread Marc Vloemans
Great initiative!

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 15 mrt. 2018 om 20:02 heeft Randal Hale <rjh...@northrivergeographic.com> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> Thanks to a few successful events here in the US, (Especially Boston
> FOSS4G 2017) several of us have been working toward formation of a US
> OSGEO Chapter. We've talked to several people in and around the US and
> multiple people involved in local chapters. I guess consider this a first
> shout of "Hello OSGEO World".
> 
> Following the Guidelines [1] for Chapter formation we have a good start:
> 
> 1. Self Organizing: Based on informal discussions with OSGeo members
> online and at the FOSS4G conference there is a major interest in how to
> support and build community across the nation. Technocation [2] is a
> non-profit that can act as a formal home for the OSGeo.US chapter.
> 
> 2. Mission Statement: OSGeo.US will cultivate and support local OSGeo
> chapters and projects in the United States. OSGeo.US will also support
> activities and events that build awareness of the OSGeo and create
> opportunities to grow the OSGeo community.
> 
> I also realized in this email - we've yet to stick anything on the
> wiki.osgeo.org site - we'll get that done shortly.
> 
> 3. As for an official rep for the chapter: I was nominated by the group
> to be the official Spokesperson for now. So I'll do what I can to answer
> emails or drag someone else into the mix to answer them if I can't.
> 
> 4. I'll be sending more information to the OSGEO Board - I
> wanted to start a discussion now and see if there was any angst that I
> or anyone else could address and if anyone else was interested in
> helping push this along.
> 
> 5. TBD Later
> 
> Anyway - Since I've not quit done anything like this before - Excuse
> anything I've forgotten or not done properly in this first announcement.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
> [1] http://www2.osgeo.org/content/chapters/guidelines.html
> 
> [2] https://technocation.github.io/
> 
> -- 
> Randal Hale
> rjh...@northrivergeographic.com
> https://www.northrivergeographic.com
> (423)653-3611
> 
> 
> -- 
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> rjh...@northrivergeographic.com
> https://www.northrivergeographic.com
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Program and Early Bird registration FOSS4G NA 14-17 May, St. Louis MO

2018-03-02 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Dear all,

A truly impressive list of *accepted talks* and *workshops* for FOSS4G NA 2018
(2018.foss4g-na.org) is online (2018.foss4g-na.org/program/sessions/accepted
).

This is the premier annual North American open spatial conference,
co-hosted and organized by OSGeo and LocationTech. An unique event that
brings together the continent's open spatial developer community, academic
world and business ecosystem during 4 days in one of the most buzzing
spatial hubs of America.

The conference will be held in St. Louis , MO, on 14-16 May, 2018, with a
special Community & Workshop Day (17 May) full of workshops, BoF's,
co-located events and code sprint at the renowned T-Rex incubation centre.

To benefit from the *Early Bird* rate, please register before 12 March:
2018.foss4g-na.org/registration Please note, the number of workshop seats
is capped, therefore 'first come first served' applies.

With thanks to the growing supporter list of those who matter in our
industry.

On behalf of the LOC, we look forward to you see you in St. Louis!
Marc Vloemans
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What Open Government can learn from us Open Source folks

2018-02-27 Thread Marc Vloemans
Hi Cameron,

Great to have such comprehensive argument in writing. The deadline of 15th 
March allows me only to jot down some quick notions. 

The business/market side of things is relatively underrepresented, while being 
essential for project sustainability. Could I suggest the following.

Open collaboration on eg code in/by governmental bodies requires explicit 
interaction with ‘the market’. And that is precisely where gov bodies/agencies 
usually are or feel or should be hamstrung.

This is entails some notions (some of these touched upon, but may need to be 
made more explicit);
- most gov organisations simply don’t have the tech skills in-house to 
participate on a technical level with (or instigate) Dev communities
- or capabilities to otherwise engage with communities
- these orgs have to rely on external experts; most notably service suppliers
- or build their internal expertise, which will be difficult, expensive and not 
the ‘core business’ of government 
- in any case, gov bodies have to go beyond traditional supply-demand 
interactions
- while safe guarding pre-competitive behaviour
- OS foundations usually provide that environment of necessary 
vendor-neutrality (besides the elements of meritocracy etc you mention) and 
pre-comp interactions 

I feel your doc would benefit from the extra angle where you address 
public-private collaboration with a particularly view as to the ‘how’. The 
‘why’ and ‘what’ of the argument depend on that. Unless the practicalities are 
addressed it is (too) easy for sceptics to just say ‘no’. 

My two cents

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 27 feb. 2018 om 00:18 heeft Dirk Frigne <dirk.fri...@geosparc.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Cameron,
> 
> Nice initiative.
> Now it is a bit to late for me, but if you can grant me review access, I
> will review and comment tommorow.
> 
> Dirk.
> 
>> On 26-02-18 22:52, Cameron Shorter wrote:
>> The Australian Government has asked for feedback on how they are going
>> at Open Government, and I've started a draft response. I'm really keen
>> to make sure that this response is well constructed because I think that
>> if listened to, understood, and acted upon, then we can make a huge
>> difference to the effectiveness of Open Government worldwide - and by
>> extension, to Open Source as well.
>> 
>> If you have a chance to read and provide review comments, I'd be very
>> grateful. Email me directly to get review access.
>> 
>> (It will take ~ 10 minutes to read. Longer if you take time to think
>> about how things should be reworded and consider what is missing and
>> should be included.)
>> 
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jNdh4_A_cIpaHqLRFOgpvAY3JSo0Ueraam39UHFOGHs/edit#heading=h.5zu4u4o3l7zi
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Yours sincerely,
> 
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Community voting FOSS4G NA

2018-02-26 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear Micah,

Thanks for your interest.
FYI the list of accepted talks and workshops will be published this week.
Hopefully you will find topics of interest. A special government rate for 
ticket applies. 

@Bart: thanks for the clarification. I missed this thread in my pile of emails. 

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 23 feb. 2018 om 15:33 heeft Micah Wengren <micah.weng...@noaa.gov> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Ok, thanks, comment withdrawn.  Somehow the large Register Now button drew my 
> attention away from following Marc's directions properly.
> 
> Cheers,
> Micah
> 
>> On 2/23/2018 8:48 AM, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:
>> I think it's only required to have an Eclipse account (see: 
>> https://accounts.eclipse.org/user/register) in order to participate in the 
>> community voting.
>> 
>> There is no need to register for the conference.
>> 
>> Btw voting period has ended already.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Bart
>> 
>>> On 23-02-18 14:33, Micah Wengren wrote:
>>> Hi Marc, 
>>> Thanks for the notice and many thanks for your efforts to put together 
>>> FOSS4GNA.  
>>> I don't recall having to register in order to submit a community vote on 
>>> presentation topics for a FOSS4G conference before.  I have not been to 
>>> FOSS4GNA for several years, so I realize the process may differ from the 
>>> international event.  And I can see there is some logic to restricting the 
>>> voting pool to those actually attending, but many, myself included, won't 
>>> be able to register before the program is finalized.  I try to make a point 
>>> to vote if I am fairly certain I'll be attending, but it looks like that 
>>> won't be possible this year.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your consideration,
>>> 
>>> Micah
>>> 
>>>> On 2/12/2018 10:52 AM, Marc VLOEMANS wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> The FOSS4G NA Program Committee has started deliberating & scoring on 160+ 
>>>> proposals. You are kindly invited to influence your program by casting 
>>>> your "community vote".
>>>> Please follow these steps:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. Login to  https://2018.foss4g-na.org (register to submit your vote)
>>>> 2. Go to Proposed Sessions under 'Conference'
>>>> 3: Vote for favorites under "your vote"
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your time and hope to see you in St Louis!
>>>> 
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>>>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] PlanetOSGeo revamp

2018-02-14 Thread Marc Vloemans
Wow, that looks so good!
Great work, Jorge.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 14 feb. 2018 om 07:20 heeft Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Wow - that looks much better, I did not know about the j/k/o navigation so I 
> am not bothered by it not working well.
> 
> --
> Jody Garnett
> 
>> On 13 February 2018 at 17:41, Jorge Sanz <xurxos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> OK hi again,
>> 
>> I did some updates to the design, and also added a small JS library for 
>> j/k/o navigation that sincerely, does not work that well. Result in the same 
>> url [1].
>> 
>> I've also moved the full new theme to a new folder[2], so in theory, 
>> switching to the new theme would be as easy as committing here[3] the theme 
>> name. If you are happy with the current status, please feel free to deploy 
>> the change, otherwise, I'll do that as soon as possible.
>> 
>> For me, next step on this small project is a big clean-up of blogs (say any 
>> wrong url or no new content over the last two years) and then try to get new 
>> sources.
>> 
>> Cheers!
>> 
>> [1] http://planet.osgeo.org/new_planet/
>> [2] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/planet/venus/themes/osgeo_v2
>> [3] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/planet/venus/planet_osgeo.config#L26
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 February 2018 at 18:21, Jorge Sanz <xurxos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 8 February 2018 at 15:56, Markus Neteler <nete...@osgeo.org> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Sandro Santilli <s...@kbt.io> wrote:
>>>> > On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 02:39:33PM +0100, Jorge Sanz wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Please take a look and let me know if you see anything you'd like to
>>>> >> address:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> http://planet.osgeo.org/new_planet/
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for taking this task !
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, thanks a lot.
>>>> 
>>>> > One thing that I found annoying in the old planet and is still
>>>> > present in the new one is having full articles dumped on the page.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, maybe only the first x line should be shown.
>>> 
>>> Well this really is up to every blogger because the planet softaware just 
>>> takes the RSS content and some people put the full article, others and 
>>> excerpt, others nothing.
>>> 
>>> What I can do in the planet web interface is use javascript to reduce the 
>>> content to a couple of lines so you have to navigate to the blogger 
>>> website. Maybe optionally I can allow to click somewhere to get the full 
>>> content displayed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> > I'd rather just see short summaries for each, so that I can
>>>> > see more titles in less scrolling. A click to read all article
>>>> > doesn't seem too much work, if the title and short summary is
>>>> > interesting.
>>>> 
>>>> Another nice feature of the old block was to jump from one to the next
>>>> article with the "k" and "j" keys.
>>>> Not sure if that could be ported as well?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ok so someone else was using that, apart from me :-) For sorme reason (I 
>>> never investigated) that feature stopped working at some point and frankly, 
>>> as everything else on the planet part, never had the energy to fix it, 
>>> until now.
>>> 
>>> I'll take a look and try to get it working again ^_^
>>> 
>>> I'm almost on holidays, but if the weather is really bad here this weekend 
>>> I may have some time to work on this, otherwise it will have to wait until 
>>> March when I come back to RealWorld(TM).
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your feedback!!
>>> -- 
>>> Jorge Sanz
>>> http://twitter.com/xurxosanz
>>> http://jorgesanz.net
>> 
>> 
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Community voting FOSS4G NA

2018-02-12 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Dear all,

The FOSS4G NA Program Committee has started deliberating & scoring on 160+
proposals. You are kindly invited to influence your program by casting your
"community vote".
Please follow these steps:

1. Login to https://2018.foss4g-na.org (register to submit your vote)
2. Go to Proposed Sessions under 'Conference'
3: Vote for favorites under "your vote"

Thanks for your time and hope to see you in St Louis!

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Deadline CfP FOSS4G NA in 24 hours

2018-02-07 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Dear all,

Last call.

The CfP for FOSS4G NA in St Louis is closing in 24 hours.

You can submit your talk or workshop at https://2018.foss4g-na.org

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Two week to go before deadline CfP Geospatial DevRoom FOSDEM 2018 Brussels

2017-11-17 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Dear community,


A quick heads up, to submit your talk/workshop/other for this unique event.


FOSDEM is a free non-commercial event bringing together 8000+ open source
software developers and communities in Brussels, Belgium. Participation is
free of charge (donations welcome). The next edition will take place on 3-4
February 2018. For the 4th time there is a Geospatial devroom on Sunday
*4/2/2018*!

Geospatial technologies and mapping used to be specialist work. Nowadays
location and maps have become part of many projects/applications.

We welcome submissions about:
* Web & desktop GIS applications;
* Collaborative editing / versioning of geodata & metadata;
* Interoperable geospatial web services & specifications;
* Collection of data using sensors / UAVs / satellites;
* Geo-analytic algorithms / libraries;
* Geospatial extensions for classical databases (indexes, operations) &
dedicated databases;
* Big geodata, distributed & scalable GIS applications;
* Volunteered Geographic information - Crowdsourced geodata.

HOW TO SUBMIT YOUR PROPOSAL FOR A TALK

Like to run a discussion, present your work, any other ideas? Submit your
proposal at:  https://fosdem.org/submit
Make sure to select the 'Geospatial devroom' as 'Track'. If you have an
account from previous years, you should be using the same.
Please specify in the notes if you prefer a short timeslot (lightning talks
~10 min) or a long timeslot (20 min presentation + discussion). Note that
time slots are indicative and will be assigned according to the timing of
the session.

The DEADLINE for submissions: Thursday 1st December 2017

Notification of acceptance will be sent to the Authors by 11/12/2017 at the
latest.
For questions, please get in touch with the organizers at gisky.be!
Check out the videos and presentations of our previous editions.

Organizers: Johan Van de Wauw, Margherita Di Leo, Anne Ghisla, Martin
Hammitzsch, Marc Vloemans

[1] https://archive.fosdem.org/2016/schedule/track/geospatial/

[2] https://archive.fosdem.org/2017/schedule/track/geospatial/


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[OSGeo-Discuss] Call for Papers open for FOSS4G NA May 2018, St. Louis MO

2017-11-07 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Dear all,

This is a heads up that the Call for Papers has opened for FOSS4G 2018 (
2018.foss4g-na.org). The annual North American open spatial conference,
co-hosted and organized by OSGeo and LocationTech.

An unique event that brings together the continent's open spatial developer
community and business ecosystem during 4 days in one of the most buzzing
spatial hubs of America.

The conference will be held in St. Louis , MO, on May 14-16, 2018,
including a special Community Day (May 17) full of workshops, BoF's,
co-located events and code sprint at the renowned T-Rex incubation centre.

Since many of you have contributed to the global OSGeo conference FOSS4G
this year in Boston, we like to keep the momentum and welcome your entries
for this event.

Details on deadlines and potential themes of the *CFP* you can find at:
https://2018.foss4g-na.org/cfp
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Elections 2017 from the CRO point of view

2017-10-25 Thread Marc Vloemans
Thanks Vasile,

You managed to cut down to the things that really mattered and that we can all 
learn from.
Impressive clear and comprehensive summary. I hope his advice will be weighed 
and incorporated into future policies regarding the Foundation's governance.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 25 okt. 2017 om 20:00 heeft Vasile Craciunescu <vas...@geo-spatial.org> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Dear Board directors and dear members of OSGeo community,
> 
> This year elections [1] will end in less than 7 hours and it is time for me, 
> as CRO, to make a short assessment and to issue a few recommendations.
> 
> As you all know, during the process we had a few situations that caused 
> tension and discontent to an important number of our members. I will go 
> through the most important ones.
> 
> 1. This year membership process [2] was a very lite one. The basic rule for 
> becoming a charter member was to be nominated by one existing member and to 
> be seconded by at least one other existing member. This lite approach was in 
> line with the new OSGeo Vision and Mission Statement which is focused on 
> being inclusive [3]. However, during the nomination period, many of our 
> members considered the new membership process way too inclusive/lite, causing 
> a diminution in the importance of the charter member position. Another 
> subject that produced criticism was related to the fact that some of the 
> nominations were considered short in content and did not offer enough 
> information on the "positive attributes" [4] that a potential member shall 
> have. Finally, one of the charter member responsibilities [5], "Be aware of 
> and protect against a takeover of OSGeo by single group or viewpoint.", was 
> also a subject of dispute. My recommendations for the future board are to: 
> (a) Change the existing membership process with another one more balanced, 
> that assures both inclusiveness and a consistent weight for the charter 
> member position. Of course, this new mechanism should be discussed with the 
> community; (b) Impose a a very light template for the new nominations. This 
> way, all the nominations will be consistent and comparable. (c) Rephrase 
> responsibility no. 3 of the charter members. The meaning should be kept bu 
> the wording should not sound that martial.
> 
> 2. Jeff was nominated for the board of directors while was serving as co-CRO. 
> Even if the nominee steeped down immediately from the co-CRO position, the 
> access to the c...@osgeo.org was immediately cut-off and he never had access 
> to the electronic voting system, criticism over the potential conflict of 
> interest and elections credibility was raised. My recommendation for the 
> board is to make a specific rule that a nomination/candidacy for/from a 
> person that is acting as CRO or has any other role in the election management 
> is not acceptable.
> 
> 3. During the voting period Jeff sent a request to withdraw from the 
> elections due to the negative feedback. This also started a vivid debate. My 
> recommendation for the board is to create a clear rule stating that an 
> accepted nomination cannot be withdraw after the start of the voting period. 
> Of course, elected persons can always resign for various reasons.
> 
> Regarding the current status of the elections. 311 from a total of 390 
> members voted (80%). Due to the final reminder sent today there are chances 
> to improve the voting participation.
> 
> In my previous message I was proposing to accept Jeff's withdraw request but 
> to continue the elections without any modification to the voting list. After 
> more study on different voting systems and after going through your feedback, 
> my decision and proposal for the board is not to admit the request from Jeff. 
> Such requests are not possible in this kind of elections elsewhere. It is 
> true that we have no specific rule for that in our bylaws. As I mentioned 
> before, this should change. After the release of the elections results, and 
> if Jeff is elected, it's up to him to decide if he goes on with the mandate 
> or if he is resigning. This decision should be a very fast one, without 
> further discussions on the mailing list, with all the possible arguments 
> being already on the table.
> 
> The other option that the board can consider is to entirely restart the board 
> elections cycle (or only the voting part for the remaining 8 nominations). 
> Even if this looks like the most correct way to go, looking on how the 
> elections went before and after Jeff announcement, I can say, without 
> disclosing anything about the final results, that the announcement did not 
> changed the way people were voting. Of course, this is not a fact, is

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Regional Conference with a significant OSGeo footprint.

2017-10-24 Thread Marc Vloemans
Hey Bob,

Please contact me directly (no need to burden the list with noise). I can give 
some pointers, which at the same time will be the start of a checklist for 
future reference for other events. To be published in the Marketing wiki and 
announced on this list (better signal to noise ratio)

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 24 okt. 2017 om 22:32 heeft Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
> <bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> All,
> 
> Related to chanpter meetings (somewhat), we have a Regional Geo-event coming 
> together for this coming May.  It will have a fairly high OSGeo footprint as 
> well.
> 
> The last event two years ago, pulled in 250 attendees, shooting for 300-350 
> this time around.  What’s the best way to promote this type of (somewhat 
> fractional) OSGeo event in the OSGeo universe?  We’ll have 15-20% OSGeo based 
> presentations.
> 
> bobb
> 
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 1:09 PM, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) 
>> <bob.basq...@ci.stpaul.mn.us> wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> Yeah, the more we mull this over, the more I’m leaning towards a online 
>> Event form.  Centralized collection of the information is the hardpart, the 
>> next step would be to figure out how to disseminate.   The Online Form could 
>> be used to post to the appropriate list(s) and populate event calanders and 
>> news feeds. Some of this could be left up to the poster too, with 
>> dropdown/checklists in the form for the desired publication endpoints.  I 
>> still think there may need to be a vetting piece in front of the actual 
>> publishing though.  But since all info of this type could conceivably be 
>> funneled through this new Event form, then the vetting process could be 
>> automated to a fairly high degree, and it could be set up to work with 
>> multiple individuals with the vetting authority, even similar to TRAC . . . .
>> 
>> bobb
>> 
>>> On Oct 24, 2017, at 12:56 PM, Jeffrey Johnson <ortel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Should be able to, but ingesting from various different platforms
>>> would be harder than just getting everyone to cross post to one single
>>> place for OSGeo.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] withdrawal from Board election

2017-10-22 Thread Marc Vloemans
+++1

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 22 okt. 2017 om 18:33 heeft seven <se...@arnulf.us> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> After reading latest posts I agree that canceling the elections might open 
> Pandora's box (which is not going to happen because we are all grown up and 
> work towards the same goal, right?)
> 
> Honestly, having Jeff retrospectively withdrawing his resignation and 
> accepting the election and sit on the board will make him (and us all) look 
> really silly. I already regret to have voiced my opinion at all. 
> 
> Vasile, Board, you have my fullest compassion. 
> 
> http://arnulf.us
> Mind your business
> 
>  Ursprüngliche Nachricht 
> Von: n...@nikosalexandris.net
> Datum: 22.10.17 18:18 (GMT+01:00)
> An: vas...@geo-spatial.org
> Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] withdrawal from Board election
> 
> Dear Vasile,
> 
> for what is worth, from my short experience as a CRO for GRASS' PSC elections 
> last year, and I mean my readings on and off in trying to be useful for the 
> process,
> 
> I think it is not useful to cancel running elections. Nor it is to accept any 
> withdrawal during the process.
> 
> The candidacies, the process and the result should be protected from any such 
> actions. Else, it is like openning a small Pandora's box and any similar 
> difficulty could eventually cancel the elections.
> 
> Please, let the process finish, don't rush. Give time for second thoughts to 
> everyone. After the elections, life will go on somehow as Even sketched it 
> very well.
> 
> Nikos 
> 
> À Dimanche 22 octobre 2017, Vasile Craciunescu a écrit :
> > Barry,
> > 
> > I fully agree with you that a complete restart is the fairest way to go. 
> > However, people are getting really tired with this subject and some 
> > already unsubscribe from this mailing list. Also, not sure if this 
> > should be my call or the board should formally decide on this. Probably 
> > should be me, as four of the board are standing for reelection. I know 
> > that most of you are irritated by the amount of emails that circulate 
> > this days on the mailing list but I would like to hear more opinions on 
> > this subject before taking a decision.
> > 
> > Best,
> > Vasile
> > CRO 2017
> > 
> > 
> > On 10/22/17 4:33 PM, Barry Rowlingson wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > My proposal to the Board and the OSGeo charter members is to leave the
> > > list as it is and make sure that the people that did not vote yet are
> > > aware of Jeff's request to withdraw from the Board elections.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > No, this is completely off. If a candidate withdraws during an election, 
> > > you should declare the current ballot void and start a new one without 
> > > the withdrawn candidate.
> > > Leaving the ballot running, but telling people who have not voted yet 
> > > that one candidate has withdrawn is *unfair* to those who already voted.
> > > 
> > > I would hope that running a ballot is low-enough cost that this doesn't 
> > > have a cost impact, unlike a paper election!
> > > 
> > > If Jeff had been elected to the board and then resigned the day after 
> > > the election then I assume there's regulations for having new 
> > > by-elections for vacant seats, but this situation is not the same.
> > > 
> > > Barry
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I can
> > > insert the information in the reminder mail that I'm planing to submit
> > > tonight/Monday morning.
> > > 
> > > Best,
> > > Vasile
> > > CRO 2017
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [1] http://www.geo-spatial.org/osgeo/bucuresti2017
> > > <http://www.geo-spatial.org/osgeo/bucuresti2017>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 10/21/17 3:34 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> > >  > Dear CRO,
> > >  >
> > >  > Please accept my withdrawal from the Board election.  I am sorry to
> > >  > cause all of the problems so clearly explained by so many here
> > > publicly
> > >  > this election.
> > >  >
> > >  > I wish to take the time now to thank all of the candidates for
> > >  > volunteering their time for the OSGeo community.
> > >  >
> > >  > Yours,
> > >  >
> > >  > -Jeff McKenna
> > >  >
> > >  >
>

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Costly FOSS4Gs

2017-10-16 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1
Without businesses no SLA's etc. for professional enduser organisations, who 
ultimate pay for developers as well as the 'parties'.
(Coming nog from a - black - suit ;-)

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 16 okt. 2017 om 19:44 heeft Seven (aka Arnulf) <se...@arnulf.us> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Folks, 
> if we want to compete then we have to play the game. Party is great but the 
> money is not in the party and fun part. The money sits in large corps and 
> governments. Folks coming from there are not expected to party or hang out 
> and have fun. They are expected to see the bleeding edge technology first 
> hand, learn about the reliability of Open Source and Free Software licensing 
> and learn about the leading businesses in that domain. Companies who choose 
> to support FOSS4G with their sponsorship and come to the global big business 
> FOSS4G industry event. Honor them. Honor those who organize those events. 
> Consider paying them professional rates instead of burning them out and then 
> complain that they have left. 
> (Maybe to the disagreement of some) these kind of events function by making 
> things shine and excel. This includes a great venue, great catering, inviting 
> great paid speakers and award great awards at a great gala dinner. Yawn. How 
> I hate those events! Plus they are costly! Plus I have to wear my (cat)suit! 
> Yuck! But this is also why I always have worn a suit when it was required 
> (especially on Star Trek Voyager). No, I do not consider myself a suit. But I 
> wear one when it is required. There are aspects of Free Software and Open 
> Source where a suit is a door opener. Condemn it, door closes. 
> The good thing is, we do not have to stop anything. We can and we already are 
> doing both. We have great local events and code sprints and fun and party and 
> all. Plus we have a one time per year event that is expensive and attracts 
> the money. Where is the problem? Don't like it? Then don't go. Cannot afford 
> it? Then promote it so that those who can afford it go (and indirectly pay 
> your pizza during the fun events). How cool is that? 
> Honestly, FOSS4G "global" should stay (or become even more of) an industry 
> event. What do you think where the (admittedly tiny) OSGeo budget comes from? 
> It is the surplus generated by well organized, efficient and shiny (plus fun) 
> FOSS4Gs. This money is used to support the pizza and coffee for local code 
> sprints. Why on earth would anybody in his or her right mind jeopardize or 
> even criticize an event that helps fund everything else we do? 
> Cheers,
> Seven
> (Founder, Charter Member, ex Director, President Emeritus of OSGeo and grumpy 
> old ex Borg drone) 
> 
> 
>> Am 16.10.2017 um 18:55 schrieb Jody Garnett:
>> I would like a chance to listen to everyone and avoid creating spits in our 
>> community, some of the most critical feedback received about foss4g 
>> affordability has been by companies. Our strength in part comes from 
>> bridging divides, a foss4g for business would not be a foss4g.
>> 
>> Ravi can I ask if you would like to have a "hangout" or "party" event?
>> 
>> I was surprised to encounter the viewpoint that foss4g it is considered an 
>> OSGeo party. While we have lots to celebrate, I view foss4g as a time when 
>> we can best meet our outreach goals. I tend to view this as a responsibility 
>> - the local organizing committee has specific brought us in to 
>> knock-the-socks off the local geospatial community and show them how amazing 
>> open source can be!
>> 
>> As a personal goal I am trying to be more relaxed about viewing OSGeo as a 
>> party, our community members are amazing should be celebrated and 
>> celebrating. It is one thing I really appreciated about the slower pace of 
>> this years foss4g-europe event, think it was the first time I got to see 
>> Andrea Amine slow down enough to talk to.
>> 
>> Thanks again for bringing interesting questions to this years elections.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>> 
>> On 15 October 2017 at 23:59, Ravi Kumar <manarajahmundry2...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> Hi List,
>>> happy to note that 'FOSS4G being Costly/Unaffordable', is discussed.
>>> To make it fun, spice is added on the TERM HANGOUT.. 
>>> 
>>> May be the next board will have FOSS4G for Business, where in 5* comforts 
>>> that might make business easy for OSGeo.
>>> Will also have, 'FOSS4G Developers', where in young students/Reserchers can 
>>> have a great conference.
>>> 
>>>  Some fine tuning may make, Say , 1st 2 days 5 Star.. Next two 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Rewording the diversity argument

2017-10-13 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
I Totally agree with your emphasis on 'active'. That makes it operational.

Code of conducts, bylaws and other formally stated policies can provide a
necessary framework, but it will be people/us/individuals who will have to
lead by example and by engaging and by upholding the values.
It is about a bottom-up approach and a scratch-our-own-itches attitude IMHO.


Op vr 13 okt. 2017 om 09:24 schreef María Arias de Reyna <
delawen+os...@gmail.com>

> On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Marc Vloemans <marcvloema...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Please notice that the concept of diversity is not about equal
>> numbers/quota's. That has and will backfire as it misses the point and
>> easily degrades individual achievements.
>>
>> It is essentially about 'inclusiveness'!
>>
>> I am trying to be sensitive to the European way of approaching the matter
>> versus the American way. 'Diversity' as a term carries different
>> connotations/values/interpretations for different cultures.
>> Therefore I rather talk about 'inclusiveness' as everyone has felt left
>> out at least once. So is able to relate to how that feels.
>>
>> Are we inviting and welcoming everyone that adds value in some way or is
>> genuinely interested in OSGeo?
>> Do we truly have the 'open' culture we pride ourselves on (e.g. past
>> email treads attacking individuals could suggest differently)?
>> Please, lets work on that, keep each other sharp and avoid window
>> dressing.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Marc Vloemans
>>
>>
> Hi,
>
> I agree that maybe the word diversity may be too cultural-related and
> maybe we should avoid it as we may not be talking about the same things.
> Maybe some native speakers can create a glosary of terms we can use when
> talking about diversity and inclusiveness?
>
> I know what to use in Spanish, but sometimes I am not sure how that
> translates properly. It's like, can I say "black" if I am just being
> descriptive? Because "afroamerican" may work fine in America, but what
> about black people in Europe who has never been to America? "Afroeuropean"?
> Why the difference? It is always confusing to me because I always get
> different advices here.
>
> Also, I think that being just welcoming and open on a pasive way is not
> enough, which is how OSGeo has behave until now (or at least from my point
> of view). That's the classic argument when men are asked about the lack of
> women in tech. "We don't forbid them to come. If they would be interested,
> they would be here. We will be happy if they join." And that's not how it
> works. In my opinion, we have to be actively welcoming and inclusive at all
> times. The slippery moment we forget, we are making people move away.
>
>
> Op 13 okt. 2017 om 08:23 heeft María Arias de Reyna <
>> delawen+os...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>
>> Hi Ger-Jan (and all),
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting
>> OSGeo.nl <gert-...@osgeo.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Board member candidates (and fellow voter members),
>>>
>>> = And one to all of you:
>>>
>>> Some of you talk about being an inclusive organization.
>>>
>>> For the geographical and probably cultural aspect of inclusiveness, do
>>> you think the Board should have it's roots in as much continents /
>>> languages as possible, so preferably 1 Board member from every continent
>>> (not counting for Antarctica, ha!)
>>>
>>
>>
>> I am no friend of quotas. At least everytime I have been offered things
>> just because I was a woman and they needed a female because [reason not
>> related to my real value] it made me feel really bad. Why would I want to
>> be somewhere (a board or whatever) where everyone knows I am there not
>> because I deserve it but because something I didn't even choose? If I
>> accepted, no one was going to hear my voice, I would have been unable to do
>> anything for real. No, thanks.
>>
>> Said this, on an ideal world probably we would have in average one person
>> for each continent or language or culture or ethnicity or gender or
>> whatever criteria you want to split people into.
>>
>> Would we achieve this by forcing quotas? We could but, I rather prefer to
>> get more diverse people engage and enthusiast with OSGeo so in the end they
>> will become natural leaders. Making an effort to help diverse people more
>> comfortable in OSGeo and encourage them to participate more? Yes. Giving
>> visibility to diverse people that are doing 

[OSGeo-Discuss] Rewording the diversity argument

2017-10-13 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear all,

Please notice that the concept of diversity is not about equal numbers/quota's. 
That has and will backfire as it misses the point and easily degrades 
individual achievements. 

It is essentially about 'inclusiveness'!

I am trying to be sensitive to the European way of approaching the matter 
versus the American way. 'Diversity' as a term carries different 
connotations/values/interpretations for different cultures.
Therefore I rather talk about 'inclusiveness' as everyone has felt left out at 
least once. So is able to relate to how that feels.

Are we inviting and welcoming everyone that adds value in some way or is 
genuinely interested in OSGeo?
Do we truly have the 'open' culture we pride ourselves on (e.g. past email 
treads attacking individuals could suggest differently)?
Please, lets work on that, keep each other sharp and avoid window dressing.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 13 okt. 2017 om 08:23 heeft María Arias de Reyna <delawen+os...@gmail.com> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Ger-Jan (and all),
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting 
>> OSGeo.nl <gert-...@osgeo.nl> wrote:
>> Hi Board member candidates (and fellow voter members),
>> 
>> = And one to all of you:
>> 
>> Some of you talk about being an inclusive organization.
>> 
>> For the geographical and probably cultural aspect of inclusiveness, do you 
>> think the Board should have it's roots in as much continents / languages as 
>> possible, so preferably 1 Board member from every continent (not counting 
>> for Antarctica, ha!)
>> 
> 
>  
> I am no friend of quotas. At least everytime I have been offered things just 
> because I was a woman and they needed a female because [reason not related to 
> my real value] it made me feel really bad. Why would I want to be somewhere 
> (a board or whatever) where everyone knows I am there not because I deserve 
> it but because something I didn't even choose? If I accepted, no one was 
> going to hear my voice, I would have been unable to do anything for real. No, 
> thanks.
> 
> Said this, on an ideal world probably we would have in average one person for 
> each continent or language or culture or ethnicity or gender or whatever 
> criteria you want to split people into. 
> 
> Would we achieve this by forcing quotas? We could but, I rather prefer to get 
> more diverse people engage and enthusiast with OSGeo so in the end they will 
> become natural leaders. Making an effort to help diverse people more 
> comfortable in OSGeo and encourage them to participate more? Yes. Giving 
> visibility to diverse people that are doing great things inside OSGeo? Sure. 
> Making an effort to put someone in some position just because we have to fill 
> a quota? No, thanks.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Jeff McKenna And Sanghee Shin

2017-10-08 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1 Jeff And Sanghee

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> Op 9 okt. 2017 om 00:38 heeft Vicky Vergara <vi...@georepublic.de> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> I would like to second this nomination.
> I can find words in my vocabulary to express al the traits that Jeff has for 
> being in the board.
> His energy is contagious.
> His knowledge of OSGeo invaluable.
> His love an care for OSGeo is like no one else I've met
> 
> 
> Vicky
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 4:48 PM, nicolas bozon <nicolas.bo...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It is my honor to nominate Jeff McKenna for the OSGeo Board of Directors 
>> election.
>> 
>> Most of you knows Jeff's energy and passion for everything OSGeo, and i 
>> would probably be mistaken trying to summarize his countless contributions 
>> over the years, at every level of our Foundation. His leadership and long 
>> involvement in the OSGeo and FOSS4G communities made him the Winner of the 
>> Solz Katz Award in 2016, and i cannot add more. For those of you who may 
>> really not know Jeff yet, the User:Jeff_McKenna wiki page is a good read 
>> before you vote.
>> 
>> Jeff already served three times at the board and has a deep understanding of 
>> both the director role and the current OSGeo strategic plan. Experienced 
>> with OSGeo governance and bylaws, Jeff also knows a lot about projects and 
>> people. He is always ready to help build locally and to represent globally. 
>> 
>> Jeff is a great communicator and enthusiastic community leader, and i 
>> believe he will be an excellent OSGeo director again. Please let us all 
>> welcome Jeff back at the Board!
>> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Nicolas Bozon
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> Jeff McKenna agreed to be nominated and i decided to send the nomination 
>> directly to the Discuss list with cc to CRO, so it avoids Jeff to confirm to 
>> himself that he accepts the nomination. The Board Nominations page still 
>> need to be updated, could you please Vasile ? Sorry for shortening the 
>> nomination process in this special case.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nominations: Second the nominations of: Astrid Emde, Vicky Vagera, Jody Garnett, Dirk Frigne

2017-10-08 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1 for Vicky, Astrid, Jody, Dirk

Kind regards,
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> Op 8 okt. 2017 om 23:08 heeft Arne Schubert <atd.schub...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Sorry I am a little late…
> 
> I could write a long letter why to support Astrid Emde, Vicky Vagera  and 
> Jody Garnett, but in view of time I will just second the nominations.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nominating Jody Garnett to serve another term as an OSGeo Board member

2017-10-05 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
+1 for Jody

I have worked with him (And others) on the rebrand And new website for
OSGeo. As member of the Marketing Committee he has taken point on one of
our greatest achievements this year.

His energy, patience, persistence and management of the project have been
exemplary for working in and with our community.

Continuation of his Board work will benefit projects, committees, other
initiatives and membership: our community.

Marc

Op do 5 okt. 2017 om 23:47 schreef Michael Smith <
michael.smith.e...@gmail.com>

> I've worked with Jody both off and on the board and I whole heartedly
> support this nomination. Jody is a tremendous asset to OSGeo.
>
> Mike
>
> Michael Smith
> OSGeo Foundation Treasurer
> treasu...@osgeo.org
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Cameron
> Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com>
> Date: Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 5:42 PM
> To: CRO <c...@osgeo.org>
> Cc: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nominating Jody Garnett to serve another term as
> an OSGeo Board member
>
> >Dear CRO,
> >
> >I would like to nominate Jody Garnett to serve on the OSGeo Board for
> >another 2 year term. If I were to select a few words to describe Jody's
> >last term I'd say that he has been:
> >
> >Impactful, insightful; inspiring to others; leading by example;
> >experienced in the ways that open source communities work; prepared to
> >tackle the less exciting problems; encouraging; practical and realistic.
> >Jody's contributions to the OSGeo board has been hugely valuable to
> >date, and I'm incredibly grateful that he has accepted to run for
> >another term.
> >
> >For background: Jody has served on the OSGeo board for 2 years, he
> >chairs the OSGeo Incubation committee, was on the FOSS4G 2007 and FOSS4G
> >2009 organising committees, has presented regularly at conferences and
> >workshops, is on the Project Steering Committees for UDig, GeoTools,
> >GeoServer, and is a regular contributor to numerous OSGeo email lists.
> >
> >Warm regards,
> >Cameron Shorter
> >
> >--
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> >
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Board nomination: Astrid Emde

2017-10-02 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1 for Astrid

In the short time that I have come to know Astrid she proved to be an asset to 
the foundation. From Foss4g 2016 in Bonn onwards she has been a driving force 
in the Marketing Committee. From continuous contributing to marketing tactics 
to hands-on dealing with collateral production ranging from Live USB to 
translation of info sheets.
All the while being critical yet compassionate.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 2 okt. 2017 om 22:25 heeft Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> I really appreciate Astrid's kindness and leadership on the OSGeo Marketing 
> team, she would be a great asset to our organization as a director.
> 
> --
> Jody Garnett
> 
>> On 2 October 2017 at 11:34, Jeff McKenna <jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Forwarding nomination of Astrid Emde by Venkatesh Raghavan & Jeff McKenna. 
>> The Board Nominations page has been updated: 
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Member_Nominations_2017
>> 
>> 
>> -Jeff & Vasile
>> CRO 2017 Elections
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> 
>> It gives us great pleasure to nominate Astrid Emde as a member of the OSGeo 
>> Board.
>> 
>> Astrid [1] needs no introduction for most in our community; for the few who 
>> may not yet be fully aware of Astrid’s contributions, she is an (hyper) 
>> active member of OSGeo for many years. She is a PSC member of the Mapbender 
>> [2] and OSGeo Live projects [3]. Apart from being a regular contributor at 
>> global and regional FOSS4G conferences, Astrid is the force behind the 
>> German language OSGeo Local Chapter FOSSGIS e.V. [4] ever since its 
>> inception. She is also involved in showcasing OSGeo at mega-events like 
>> INTERGEO [5] and scientific conferences like AGIT [6].
>> 
>> Astrid relentlessly promotes OSGeo by organizing community events, code 
>> sprints, workshops on a variety of OSGeo software, and 
>> documentation/translation. More recently, her excellent communication skills 
>> are being put to effective use in our Marketing Committee.
>> 
>> We would like to thank Astrid for kindly agreeing to spare her time for the 
>> added responsibility of serving the OSGeo Foundation as a member of the 
>> Board.
>> 
>> Yours,
>> 
>> Venka & Jeff
>> 
>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Astrid_Emde
>> [2] http://www.mapbender.org/
>> [3] https://live.osgeo.org/
>> [4] https://www.fossgis.de/
>> [5] http://www.intergeo.de/intergeo-en/
>> [6] http://www.agit.at/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] completed branding and collateral materials are now in github

2017-09-26 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 22 sep. 2017 om 08:17 heeft Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> In this weeks meeting we have received the complete branding and collateral 
> material which I have had a chance to place in github:
> 
> https://github.com/OSGeo/osgeo
> 
> Please have a look, the marketing committee is reviewing this material for 
> sign-off.
> 
> Highlights
> - styleguide-osgeo.pdf showing how everything fits together
> - print - contains everything that was ready to print for foss4g, including 
> our multi-page brochure and the one-page information hand outs produced by 
> our project teams.
> - social media - with collateral for facebook, twitter and linkined, and an 
> example of trying the templates for osgeo japan
> - logo and subbrands - keep in mind many of these are examples which were not 
> used
> 
> If you have any skill with InkScape, Scribus or LibreOffice the marketing 
> committee would love to request your help reviewing, adapting and applying 
> this content for community use.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] R: [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

2017-09-21 Thread Marc Vloemans
Hi all,

An observation from my end:

this apparently has become an argument to frame a person - who has done more 
for our community than I can list - as if he is insulting and offending that 
same community. Unsuccessfully, I am glad. From the almost deadly silence I 
deduct no collective cry out "I am shocked, shocked, shocked".

What a clever and Machiavellian turn this discussion has takentruly a 
textbook example for master classes in discussion techniques. 

Let me phrase it pleasantly: there is no moral high ground on this topic only 
organisational self-destruction.

In my role as marketing committee chair, charter member and human(oid) I feel 
increasingly sad to witness again and again and again, a process where 
volunteers (working for nearly a year on our organisation's well received new 
brand and busy wrapping up the last website work) are publicly sucked into 
...
Well, something which I hardly recognise as the OSGeo that I entered more than 
a decade ago.

For once I like to be proven wrong

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 20 sep. 2017 om 19:29 heeft Maria Antonia Brovelli 
> <maria.brove...@polimi.it> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Jody, I see very difficult  the existence of a  vast majority of GIS industry 
> that has honestly not heard about open source yet.  Anyway I refuse the idea 
> of "similar proprietary software" because our projects are much more than 
> pieces of code. Behind our software there are communities and limiting our 
> projects to pieces  of code is offensive and insulting for the volunteers 
> behind them. We are more and diverse. This is the reason why there are not 
> "similar proprietary software". 
> Thanks for removing the links.
> Best
> Maria
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Inviato dal mio dispositivo Samsung
> 
> 
>  Messaggio originale 
> Da: Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> 
> Data: 20/09/17 18:53 (GMT+01:00) 
> A: Maria Antonia Brovelli <maria.brove...@polimi.it> 
> Cc: Margherita Di Leo <direg...@gmail.com>, Helmut Kudrnovsky 
> <hel...@web.de>, OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>, OSGeo-Marketing 
> <market...@lists.osgeo.org> 
> Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website 
> 
> Thanks Maria,
> 
> I reject the idea that we are advertising proprietary software, so each time 
> it is phrased that way of course everyone well say "no".
> 
> I want to help our software reach visitors that feel locked into proprietary 
> software, please recognize this goal and how "migrate from" can help. 
> 
> --
> Jody Garnett
> 
>> On 20 September 2017 at 09:49, Maria Antonia Brovelli 
>> <maria.brove...@polimi.it> wrote:
>> Dear Jody
>> Personally I agree with Helmut and I don't see any necessity of putting 
>> "similar proprietary software" on our web pages. I don't think proprietary 
>> software need to be advertized. We are a Foundation about Open Software and 
>> I want to see the open source projects on the website that we have been 
>> paying as OSGeo. 
>> I ask please to remove the "similar proprietary software"  and the related 
>> links. 
>> Many thanks 
>> Best,
>> Maria 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Inviato dal mio dispositivo Samsung
>> 
>> 
>>  Messaggio originale 
>> Da: Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> 
>> Data: 20/09/17 14:45 (GMT+01:00) 
>> A: Margherita Di Leo <direg...@gmail.com>, Helmut Kudrnovsky <hel...@web.de> 
>> Cc: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>, OSGeo-Marketing 
>> <market...@lists.osgeo.org> 
>> Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo 
>> website 
>> 
>> Thanks for the discussion on the bug report. Please keep in mind that this 
>> website is written by us, but it is not intended for us - it is intended for 
>> the vast majority of the GIS industry that has honestly not heard about open 
>> source yet.
>> 
>> These sections are optional, if one of our open source projects has a 
>> particular target market in mind filling in this information would really 
>> help! Indeed when I go to a normal GIS conference this is the top question - 
>> since I have not had a chance to use the proprietary software it is not one 
>> I can easily answer.
>> 
>> In the above bug report I would like to change the heading from "Similar 
>> Proprietary Products" to "Migrate From", but perhaps that is too 
>> confrontational? I would also like to avoid advertising proprietary 
>> softw

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] About the selected election periods

2017-09-18 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear Maxi, Steven,

I fully agree with your suggestions. Hope the role And responsabilities of 
charter members can be made more valuable to the organisation. 

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 18 sep. 2017 om 14:23 heeft Steven Feldman <shfeld...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Good suggestion Maxi, I agree
> 
> We might also want to consider whether the Charter Members should have a 
> significant role in the governance of OSGeo beyond electing the board and 
> being some kind of backstop in the event of a “hostile takeover”
> __
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> 
>> On 18 Sep 2017, at 13:17, Massimiliano Cannata 
>> <massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> wrote:
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> now that the official nomination period is concluded I would like to rise a 
>> question about the opportunity of having Charter member nomination just 
>> before of the Board Election with the intend of opening a discussion for the 
>> coming years.
>> 
>> Personally I think that this is very inappropriate. I would propose to run 
>> the Charter member election only after the Board member election.
>> Even if I'm sure that nobody did it, there is a risk of 'election' for the 
>> purpose of 'election'. 
>> e.g.: I could virtually nominate 20 people and likely expecting they will 
>> vote form me or second all the nominations to get the favor of new members.
>> 
>> This is a potential flaws in the system from my point of view.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> maxi
>> 
>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Charter Member Nomination: Ben Tuttle

2017-09-09 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1
( another one that was long overdue)

Kind regards,
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> Op 9 sep. 2017 om 20:05 heeft Jeff McKenna <jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Forwarding Ben Tuttle nomination by Jeffrey Johnson. The 2017 member 
> nominations list was updated [1].
> 
> Best regards,
> Vasile & Jeff
> 2017 OSGeo Elections CROs
> 
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017
> 
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> 
> I would like to nominate Ben Tuttle as a Charter Member of OSGeo.
> 
> BenTuttle is a R Technologist at the National Geospatial
> Intelligence Agency leading efforts to deliver Open Source Geospatial
> tools as core infrastructure and services for NGA and its customers
> across the US Federal Government. Ben is focused on development and
> delivery of web and mobile geospatial applications to enhance data
> delivery, analysis, and decision-making. He has authored and
> co-authored papers in journals including PE, Geography Compass,
> GeoJournal, Environmental Management, and Remote Sensing of
> Environment. He is currently leading a team of developers to deliver
> new capabilities for first responders, search and rescue teams,
> security personnel, and military users while revolutionizing the
> underlying infrastructure. The team is building on cloud based
> environment with a full DevOps pipeline that includes automated
> security scanning to shorten delivery timelines and fully embrace a
> secure CI/CD process. Ben has attended and participated in numerous
> FOSS4G and his agency is now among the key sponsors of FOSS4G.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jeff Johnson
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Charter Member Nomination for Eddie Pickle

2017-09-09 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1 for Eddie Pickle
(Shocking that he was not a charter member already.,)

Kind regards,
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> Op 9 sep. 2017 om 08:36 heeft Vasile Craciunescu <vas...@geo-spatial.org> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Forwarding Eddie Pickle nomination by Jeffrey Johnson. The 2017 member 
> nominations list was updated [1].
> 
> Best regards,
> Vasile & Jeff
> 2017 OSGeo Elections CROs
> 
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017
> 
> 
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: Charter Member Nomination for Eddie Pickle
> Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2017 19:19:55 -0700
> From: Jeffrey Johnson <ortel...@gmail.com>
> To: c...@osgeo.org <c...@osgeo.org>
> CC: Eddie Pickle <eddie.pic...@gmail.com>
> 
> Hi CRO,
> 
> I would like to nominate Eddie Pickle as a Charter Member of OSGeo.
> 
> Eddie currently manages Open Source programs at Digital Globe and was
> the founding CEO of Boundless (Formerly OpenGeo). Eddie has been
> working in the Geospatial industry for more than 30 years. He has
> helped to organize FOSS4G-NA and other conferences such as FedGeoDay
> which promotes Open Source Geospatial within the US Federal Government
> as well as regularly participating in the sponsorship of FOSS4G.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jeff Johnson
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Nomination of Steven Ottens

2017-09-05 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 6 sep. 2017 om 07:09 heeft "j...@justobjects.nl" <j...@justobjects.nl> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> +1
> Just van den Broecke
> 
> 
> 
>  Original Message 
> From: Venkatesh Raghavan <ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 01:52 AM
> To: OSGeo Chief Returning Officer <c...@osgeo.org>
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Nomination of Steven Ottens
> CC: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>
> 
> +1 for Steven Ottens nomination as Charter Member.
> 
> Venka
> 
> On 8/30/2017 11:43 PM, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:
> > Forwarding Steven Ottens nomination by Volker Mische. The 2017 member 
> > nominations list will be updated ASAP [1].
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Vasile & Jeff
> > 2017 OSGeo Elections CROs
> >
> > [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017
> >
> >
> >
> >  Forwarded Message 
> > Subject: Nomination of Steven Ottens
> > Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 15:50:42 +0200
> > From: Volker Mische <volker.mis...@gmail.com>
> > To: c...@osgeo.org
> > CC: Steven Ottens <ste...@minst.net>
> >
> > I'd like to nominate Steven Ottens as OSGeo Charter Member. He is a long
> > time member of the community, founder and former board member of the
> > OSGeo Dutch language chapter. He gave talks and workshops at several
> > FOSS4Gs and also contributed to projects like OpenLayers, MapBuilder and
> > MapQuery.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >   Volker
> >
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Nomination of Rob Emanuele as OSGeo Charter Member

2017-08-30 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1 (gosh, how I assumed he was already Charter Member)

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 30 aug. 2017 om 17:33 heeft Vasile Craciunescu <vas...@geo-spatial.org> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Forwarding Rob Emanuele nomination by Doug Newcomb. The 2017 member 
> nominations list will be updated ASAP [1].
> 
> Best regards,
> Vasile & Jeff
> 2017 OSGeo Elections CROs
> 
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017
> 
> 
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject:Nomination of Rob Emanuele as OSGeo Charter Member
> Date:Tue, 29 Aug 2017 12:16:53 -0400
> From:Doug Newcomb <gistin...@gmail.com>
> To:c...@osgeo.org
> 
> 
> 
> Name: Rob Emanuele
> 
> Based on my positive experience working with Rob to organize the 2016 
> FOSS4GNA Conference and for his continuing work in open source geospatial 
> software I would like to nominate Rob Emanuele  to be an OSGeo Charter member.
> 
> 
> Doug Newcomb
> OSGeo Charter member
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Fwd: Nomination Joana Simões

2017-08-30 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
+1
Marc

Op wo 30 aug. 2017 om 14:55 schreef Pedro Pereira <pedro...@gmail.com>

> I second the nomination.
>
> Best regards,
> Pedro Pereira
>
> On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Vasile Craciunescu <
> vas...@geo-spatial.org> wrote:
>
>> Forwarding Joana Simões nomination by María Arias de Reyna. The 2017
>> member nominations list will be updated ASAP [1].
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Vasile & Jeff
>> 2017 OSGeo Elections CROs
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  Forwarded Message 
>> Subject:Fwd: Nomination Joana Simões
>> Date:   Mon, 28 Aug 2017 17:50:35 -0400
>> From:   Jorge Sanz <xurxos...@gmail.com>
>> To: CRO <c...@osgeo.org>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: *María Arias de Reyna* <dela...@gmail.com <mailto:dela...@gmail.com
>> >>
>> Date: 24 August 2017 at 03:21
>> Subject: Nomination Joana Simões
>> To: CRO <c...@osgeo.org <mailto:c...@osgeo.org>>, Joana Simoes <
>> joana.sim...@geocat.net <mailto:joana.sim...@geocat.net>>
>>
>>
>> I want to nominate Joana Simões (in cc)
>>
>> Joana is already a member of the OsGeo Pt board. She is a free
>> software advocator and very active on all kind of activities around
>> OsGeo and FOSS4G. She is currently working both for qGIS and
>> GeoNetwork among many other OsGeo software.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Charter Member Nomination for Jorge de Jesus

2017-08-28 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 29 aug. 2017 om 01:43 heeft Vasile Craciunescu <vas...@geo-spatial.org> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Forwarding Jorge Samuel Mendes de Jesus nomination by Gérald Fenoy and Jachym 
> Cepicky. The 2017 member nominations list will be updated ASAP [1].
> 
> Best regards,
> Vasile & Jeff
> 2017 OSGeo Elections CROs
> 
> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017
> 
>  Forwarded Message 
> Subject: Charter Member Nomination  for Jorge de Jesus
> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 10:02:50 +0200
> From: Fenoy Gerald <gerald.fe...@geolabs.fr>
> To: OSGeo CRO <c...@osgeo.org>
> CC: jorge. dejesus <jorge.deje...@geocat.net>
> 
> 
> Dear All,
> it is a great honor for me to nominate Jorge Samuel Mendes de Jesus.
> 
> Jorge is active and recognized for his work for years in the world of FOSS4G. 
> He is currently working at Geocat and is involved in various Open Source 
> ProjectS, amongst them the famous GeoNetwork and PyWPS. Jorge is someone with 
> a clear vision and positive thinking.
> 
> Jorge attends the FOSS4G on a regular manner and often make presentation and 
> workshop there.
> 
> I have faith in Jorge and feel that he is someone representative and that 
> will be of big benefit for OSGeo.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> --
> 
> Best regards CRO,
> 
> Gérald Fenoy
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Djay
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination of Mark Iliffe as OSGeo Charter Member

2017-08-26 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 26 aug. 2017 om 23:13 heeft Andy Anderson <aander...@amherst.edu> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> I second the nomination.
> 
> — Andy
> 
>> On Aug 26, 2017, at 4:09 PM, Polimi <maria.brove...@polimi.it> wrote:
>> 
>> I want to nominate Mark Iliffe as charter member of OSGeo. 
>> 
>> Mark has a lot of experience both as researcher and as a consultant of 
>> important organizations, like World Bank.
>> His main activities have been in coordinating mapping in developing 
>> countries examining the emergent phenomenon of community mapping and 
>> volunteered. 
>> 
>> Das Ramani Huria, one of the project which has been seeing him involved as a 
>> main actor, is considered as a best practice for developing (and probably 
>> could also be for developed) countries.
>> 
>> He is also invited delegate to the United Nations Committee of Experts on 
>> Global Geospatial Information Management (UN GGIM) as an expert on 
>> Volunteered Geographic Information and geography in emerging countries. 
>> 
>> He organised the 2013 FOSS4G Conference as a member of the local organising 
>> committee and is one of the two chairs of FOSS4G 2018 in Dar Es Salaam.
>> 
>> OSGEO will greatly benefit of the presence of Mark in our community. 
>> Thanks and best regards, 
>> Maria 
>> 
>> Pay attention to this Special Issue and see if it is of interest by you:
>> http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/Geospatial_Big_Data_Urban_Studies
>>  
>>  
>> 
>> Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli
>> Professor of GIS and Remote Sensing
>> Politecnico di Milano
>>  
>> ISPRS WG IV/4"Collaborative crowdsourced cloud mapping (C3M)" 
>> http://www2.isprs.org/commissions/comm4/wg4.html, Board of Directors of 
>> OSGeo; GeoForAll Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; SIFET 
>> Advisory Board
>>  
>> UN-GGIM Italy, UN-GGIM Academic Network Task Team, UN OpenGIS Initiative 
>> (Chair of the Capacity Building WG)
>>  
>> Sol Katz Award 2015
>>  
>> P.zza Leonardo da Vinci, 32 - Building 3 - 20133 Milano (Italy)
>> Tel. +39-02-23996242 - Mob. +39-328-0023867,  maria.brove...@polimi.it
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mentors money

2017-08-26 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear Vicky,

Before going into your question; decisions to spend money on codesprints or 
student conference attendance has not been part of the Marketing Committee 
remit.

Perhaps the Board can decide on the what/where/how of this type of support?

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 26 aug. 2017 om 18:51 heeft Vicky Vergara <vi...@georepublic.de> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> ​
> Hello all
> This thread started on the osgeo mentors list.
> By suggestion of Margherita I tried to move it to marketing, but it never 
> arrived, so I am sending to discuss..
> Sorry I can not give you links to the different responses, it so happens that 
> OSGeo google mentors mailing list is private (for what ever reason).
> 
> Please have a look.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Margherita Di Leo <dileomargher...@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo GSoC Mentors] Hello all
> To: osgeo-gsoc-ment...@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> Dear Vicky, Maxi, all,
> 
> The money that OSGeo gets from Google is this year 500USD per student. Before 
> i was admin and also before i acted as a mentor, this matter was discussed 
> among the mentors at the time, whether to distribute the money among the 
> mentors or to destinate them to another use, being this decision up to the 
> organizations participating in gsoc. As far as i can tell, the problem of 
> distributing the money to the mentors was to make a lot of small payments of 
> which a considerable part would be eaten by bank transfers and currency 
> changes. So it was agreed that the whole sum should be used to support code 
> sprints instead.
> Now, if you guys think this should be discussed over again, you're welcome, 
> but this would apply to next year's budget, and should be agreed upon by all 
> mentors.
> My personal opinion: I think it more useful to use the budget for a common 
> purpose rather than distributing it in small amounts, for example if you 
> don't like it destinated to code sprints, would be to use it for financial 
> support for students to attend conferences. For example at fosdem we have 
> been organizing the geospatial session and i have every year invited our gsoc 
> students to present their works but they couldn't afford the travel and 
> accommodation.
> Google also gives 500USD for supporting students travel to conferences, you 
> mentors will be asked to propose a name of a deserving gsoc student and an 
> event that he or she would like to attend and in case of multiple names we 
> will either split the aid or choose among the students. Last year if I 
> remember correctly this call was made directly to mentors by google to 
> provide names to them of deserving students, but i'm not aware if anyone of 
> osgeo made the request or got funded.
> Back to your specific request, Vicky, I suggest you address this to the osgeo 
> marketing committee , that is administering osgeo's budget, and they should 
> be able to give you an answer.
> 
> 
> 
> Il giorno ven 25 ago 2017 alle 17:22 Massimiliano Cannata 
> <massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> ha scritto:
>> Hi Viky and all,
>> sorry to be direct (as always :-D) but..
>> 
>> As far as I know, nobody ever used the mentor money.
>> They were always, silently (I hear some rumors on this), retained by OSGeo 
>> as organization.
>> 
>> If is possible to use that money, I think this should be clearly stated 
>> along with the procedure to access it.
>> As long term istSOS mentor, i would also be interested in using these money 
>> to support dissemination of the project.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Maxi
>> 
>> 2017-08-25 17:09 GMT+02:00 Vicky Vergara <vi...@georepublic.de>:
>>> Hi,
>>> pgRouting team members, have being participating mentoring since even 
>>> before I joined the team.
>>> There is a FOSS4G in Argentina, and we would like to use some of the money 
>>> that was for mentors, to support that trip.
>>> Do you know how to get those funds? and/or the process to get those funds?
>>> The money is planned to be used in:
>>> - airplane fare for 1 person
>>> - hotel
>>> - pgRouting, OSGeo and OSGeo-GSoC poster promotionals
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Vicky
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Charter Member nomination for Guido Stein

2017-08-25 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 25 aug. 2017 om 00:14 heeft Michael Smith <michael.smith.e...@gmail.com> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> I would like to nominate Guido Stein for OSGeo Charter membership. 
> As most people should know, Guido was co-chair of the Boston LOC for 2017. 
> And, as was expected, he did an amazing job. The conference was a complete 
> success and Guido's touches were everywhere, with the detail and effort that 
> he puts into things. He is currently working efforts to establish a US local 
> chapter of OSGeo. He is a valuable member of the community and he should be 
> recognized as a charter member.
> 
> 
> Michael Smith
> OSGeo Foundation Treasurer 
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Note the LocationTech badge is not showing correctly

2017-08-18 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear Maria,

I hope you can extend your advice also to Helmut.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 18 aug. 2017 om 20:26 heeft Maria Antonia Brovelli 
> <maria.brove...@polimi.it> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Dear Ian
> Please I kindly ask you to moderate your tone.  I know that you have been 
> doing  a lot and all of us we warmly thank you. But please consider that also 
> many other people have been putting a lot of energies in OSGeo. Helmut is one 
> of these people.
> Probably you don't know him but this is just because the community is large 
> and there are people committed on different projects.
> Thanks a lot for helping having a discussion frank and,  at the the time, 
> kind. 
> Cheers
> Maria 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Samsung device
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Ian Turton <ijtur...@gmail.com> 
> Date: 18/08/2017 15:46 (GMT-05:00) 
> To: Jeffrey Johnson <ortel...@gmail.com> 
> Cc: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>, Helmut Kudrnovsky 
> <hel...@web.de> 
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Note the LocationTech badge is not showing 
> correctly 
> 
> When we met up in Chicago to set up OSGEO the desire was to be as inclusive 
> as possible. I donate alot of time to OSGEO when I could be doing something 
> fun like coding and I'm getting fed up with charter members popping up on the 
> mailing lists and complaining about stuff that they haven't done anything 
> about. 
> 
> I want people to come to the OSGEO website to find out about any and all open 
> source spatial software, if this worries you then please work to make your 
> software better rather than trying to avoid the competition or go and set up 
> another website that matches your dreams of how the world should be. 
> 
> Ian 
> 
> On 18 Aug 2017 14:47, "Jeffrey Johnson" <ortel...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just for clarity and background. We announced the project form on discuss and 
> imported the results/submissions of that form. There hasn't been any process 
> other than that up to now. 
> 
> For the record, I'm very much in favor of a "big tent" approach. If a 
> software had an OSI approved license and deals with geospatial data, I 
> believe it should have "some" place on our site. This is the approach that 
> FOSS4G takes and I believe it is very successful for that very reason. 
> 
> I think we can pretty easily establish a set of criteria that can be used to 
> make this determination. Whatever approach we take, we should be very clear 
> what the criteria are.
> 
> Glad to be having this discussion. 
> 
> Jeff
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 11:43 Massimiliano Cannata 
>> <massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> wrote:
>> And istSOS :-)
>> 
>> Il 18 ago 2017 5:25 PM, "Sandro Santilli" <s...@kbt.io> ha scritto:
>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 09:19:52PM +0200, Helmut Kudrnovsky wrote:
>>> 
>>> > Will locationtech also promote OSGeo projects?
>>> 
>>> This is an interesting question, especially as LocationTech is
>>> against GPL-licensed projects (like GRASS, QGIS, PostGIS)
>>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Collaboration within the community

2017-08-18 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear Maria,

Thanks for your kind words!
Regarding my comment on 'envy';
I have to deal with 20-ish members, while Venka has a thousand-fold voices to 
bring together. Not something I can ever do. It was therefore a friendly pun. 

Have safe travels yourself, as well. And hope to meet in Europe soon. 

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 18 aug. 2017 om 20:31 heeft Maria Antonia Brovelli 
> <maria.brove...@polimi.it> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Dear Marc
> I absolutely agree with you that, as entities sharing some common interests, 
> we shall discuss and verify what we can go together.
> Knowing better each other and arriving at the end to a clear MoU between the 
> two organisations is what we have to do.
> I don't agree with you when you are not envious of Venka. The discussion and 
> diverse visions in the community is one of the richness of OSGEO.  Difficult 
> to deal with but much richer.
> And, at the end,  in my opinion we have some time for reasoning and 
> discussing.
> Thanks to everybody who wants to contribute to the discussion! 
> Have a safe flight back to Europe!
> Best
> Maria
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Samsung device
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> From: Marc Vloemans <marcvloema...@gmail.com> 
> Date: 18/08/2017 09:15 (GMT-05:00) 
> To: Michael Smith <michael.smith.e...@gmail.com>, Venkatesh Raghavan 
> <ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> 
> Cc: OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>, Helmut Kudrnovsky 
> <hel...@web.de> 
> Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Collaboration within the community 
> 
> Hi Venka,
> 
> Thanks for your kind reply and picking up the Paris-conversation.
> 
> As Michael rightfully refers to, and all involved will understand; the MoU 
> (or any other type of agreement) has to reflect the interests and 
> concerns/challenges of both organisations.
> 
> We both have our members to take into account, on behalf of which we act and 
> speak. You are dealing with a membership of a multitude of individuals, I 
> speak on behalf of a group of projects and businesses. Two sometimes 
> different and other times very alike interest groups. Actually, I don't envy 
> you ;-)
> 
> At the same time, we are already working together on so many occasions, 
> events, projects etc. That has grown incrementally, bottom up and as part of 
> a do-ocracy. It has proven to be quite successful and I don't intend to have 
> too much red tape interfere with all the good stuff that is happening. 
> 
> With OSGeo doing so much in the field of outreach and advocacy and 
> LocationTech providing a market place for techno-commercial entities, both 
> working on a multitude of interconnected projects, with overlapping 
> communities..that is a really powerful combination. We have a world to 
> win!
> 
> Kind regards,
> Marc Vloemans
> 
> 
> > Op 18 aug. 2017 om 07:34 heeft Michael Smith <michael.smith.e...@gmail.com> 
> > het volgende geschreven:
> > 
> > Venka,
> > 
> > This is something we discussed quite a bit at both the Boston F2F and at
> > the LocationTech meeting that I was invited to attend. It was agreed that
> > we all wanted to work together on the MoU but to also work closer together
> > on the process so it reflects interests and concerns on both sides. Norman
> > Barker will be attending some OSGeo board meetings to continue the
> > discussions and I will be attending some LocationTech meetings as well. We
> > need to keep discussing this both at the meetings and on the list to
> > continue forward with what is already a very good working relationship.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> > Michael Smith
> > OSGeo Foundation Treasurer
> > treasu...@osgeo.org
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Venkatesh
> > Raghavan <ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>
> > Date: Friday, August 18, 2017 at 2:41 AM
> > To: Marc Vloemans <marcvloema...@gmail.com>, Helmut Kudrnovsky
> > <hel...@web.de>, OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>
> > Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Collaboration is the way
> > forward: Note the LocationTech badge is not showing correctly
> > Resent-From: Michael Smith <michael.sm...@usace.army.mil>
> > 
> >> Hi Marc,
> >> 
> >> Many thanks to LocationTech for supporting
> >> OSGeo events and code sprints.
> >> 
> >> As discussed with you at FOSS4G-Europe last month,
> >> we could consider going beyo

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Non-precise framing can hurt the community

2017-08-18 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear all,

I am not, I repeat not, in any mood to be trolled! Certainly not by people who 
I have not seen on the discuss list during a process that has taken more than 8 
months preparing. It show an utter disrespect that may be common in certain 
circles, but not acceptable in ours.

I have in various mails to the list given honest answers to a host of 
questions, on items that have been already clear to most for a long time. And 
stating that it is 'LocationTech's turn' to respond? Is absolutely 
ludicrous, given the information you already have received from me and others 
plus is publicly available.
LocationTech is interested in a respectful conversation without the innuendos. 
A single person is severely hindering a MoU-process between two siblings of the 
same parents.

Could others please step up to the plate? People who have been with OSGeo long 
enough.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


Op 18 aug. 2017 om 17:57 heeft Helmut Kudrnovsky <hel...@web.de> het volgende 
geschreven:

>> Please keep asking questions.
>  
>  I think I've asked questions:
> 
>> Will locationtech also promote OSGeo projects?
> 
> ?
> 
> it's locationtech's turn to answer. collaboration has something to do with 
> reciprocity!
> 
>> Who will decide which project or other org will be promoted?
> 
> ?
> 
>> Why not promote projects from any other org?
> 
> ?
> 
>> What is the added value for OSGeo to promote locationtech projects?
> 
> ?
> 
> I've not seen any answer on this questions yet.
> 
> Kind regards
> Helmut
> 
> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. August 2017 um 23:42 Uhr
> Von: "Jeffrey Johnson" <ortel...@gmail.com>
> An: "Helmut Kudrnovsky" <hel...@web.de>, "Marc Vloemans" 
> <marcvloema...@gmail.com>, hmit...@ncsu.edu, ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp
> Cc: "OSGeo Discussions" <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>, "Sandro Santilli" 
> <s...@kbt.io>
> Betreff: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Non-precise framing can hurt the community
> 
> Please keep asking questions. It's healthy and how we (try to) arrive at 
> consensus.  
> 
> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 17:13 Helmut Kudrnovsky 
> <hel...@web.de[mailto:hel...@web.de]> wrote:Dear Venka, Dear Helena, Dear 
> Marc, Dear OSGeo Community,
> 
> I'm some kind of surprised about the reactions and long threads about my 
> question yesterday.
> 
> Just back from a long walk along a nice alpine river where I had time to 
> contemplate about it. Therefore it will be a personal and some kind of 
> philosophical note.
> 
> In my personal, cultural and scientific background I was educated that asking 
> questions isn't anything bad.
> 
> * Asking questions regarding things I'm interested in, to learn more about it 
> ...
> * Asking questions regarding things I'm interested in, I'm involved, and 
> where I have some kind of responsibility, to take care that it evolves in a 
> sustainable way ...
> 
> citing [1]:
> 
> "The third category is Charter Member. Individuals in this category have the 
> same rights as the above Member category, but with two important differences. 
> Firstly, individuals in this category are not self-selected, but rather must 
> be voted into this category by the other Charter Members. Secondly, 
> individuals in this category have the right to vote in elections for other 
> Charter Members, and for Board Members.
> 
> These two factors are intended to maintain the integrity of the 
> Foundation election processes -- and by extension the integrity of the 
> Foundation itself. We use the term "Charter" Member to explicitly indicate 
> that these members are responsible for upholding the "charter" of the 
> Foundation."
> 
> As I'm honoured to be elected an OSGeo charter member, this is a high 
> motivation for me to volunteer e.g. this year as OSGeo GSoC admin, to have 
> fun within the GRASS community and to promote OSGeo and free and open source 
> GIS whenever I have a chance to do so... and from time to time it encourages 
> me to ask questions about OSGeo's evolution. So here we are now ...
> 
> Community and communication  both have the same latin word stem: communis.
> 
> I like OSGeo's do-ocracy :-) ... but also I think it's now time to rephrase 
> the open source mantra to "communicate often, communicate early" :-) ... that 
> OSGeo is able to evolve in a sustainable way!
> 
> Kind regards
> Helmut 
> 
> [1] http://www.osgeo.org/Membership[http://www.osgeo.org/Membership]
> 
> Gesendet: Freitag, 18. August 2017 um 21:15 Uhr
> Von: "Marc Vloemans" <marcvloema...@gmail.com[mailto:marcvloema...@gmail.com]>
> An: "Sandro Santilli" &

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Non-precise framing can hurt the community

2017-08-18 Thread Marc Vloemans
@Helmut et all,

Thanks for another opportunity to give the community more insights in what 
LocationTech (the Eclipse Industry Working Group for spatially aware software) 
entails and how it relates to OSGeo!

We help co-develop and co-promote OSGeo projects in general (including 
GPL-projects!) through
- sponsoring codesprints (e.g. Here in Boston tomorrow) and
- co-organising events (e.g. codesprints and Foss4g North Amerika)

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 18 aug. 2017 om 12:53 heeft Marc Vloemans <marcvloema...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Dear Sandro,
> 
> We (Eclipse Foundation -LocationTech) are 'not against it' ! I repeat; not 
> againstdid I mention 'not'?
> 
> GPL is approved by OSI, just like the EPL. We are on the same team. The word 
> 'against' suggests we are at odds with each other over this. Which we are 
> not, never have been and never will be.
> 
> Our members (businesses, academia, NGO's) work with/on projects that 
> incorporate various licenses. Individual choices depend on 'the right tools 
> for the job'. Developers work on projects and in communities that encompass a 
> wide spectrum of licenses.
> End-users (the ones that fund so many of open spatial projects) determine and 
> decide which tools will suit their purposes. And they love our community's 
> versatility to meet their demands. Thus furthering the overall success of 
> open spatial IT in the world.
> The present full spectrum of projects provides a compelling, comprehensive 
> storyline as is demonstrated by an increasing number of implementations. 
> Worldwide, across industry verticals, profits, non-profits, etc etc. 
> 
> Hope this clarifies and let's together move forward!
> 
> Kind regards,
> Marc Vloemans
> 
> 
>>> Op 18 aug. 2017 om 11:25 heeft Sandro Santilli <s...@kbt.io> het volgende 
>>> geschreven:
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 09:19:52PM +0200, Helmut Kudrnovsky wrote:
>>> 
>>> Will locationtech also promote OSGeo projects?
>> 
>> This is an interesting question, especially as LocationTech is
>> against GPL-licensed projects (like GRASS, QGIS, PostGIS)
>> 
>> --strk;
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2017-08-18 Thread Marc Vloemans
Not accepting them due to our particular membership requirements does not mean 
we are 'against' GPL.

Now, I turn my attention back to the plenary close of FOSS4G in Boston, the end 
of a fantastic, fruitful and beyond all; inclusive gathering of the tribes.
Wish you were here!

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 18 aug. 2017 om 14:31 heeft Sandro Santilli <s...@kbt.io> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:53:47PM -0400, Marc Vloemans wrote:
>> 
>> GPL is approved by OSI, just like the EPL. We are on the same team. The word 
>> 'against' suggests we are at odds with each other over this. Which we are 
>> not, never have been and never will be.
> 
> Do you accept GPL covered software projects in your foundation ?
> 
> --strk;
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Non-precise framing can hurt the community

2017-08-18 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear Sandro,

We (Eclipse Foundation -LocationTech) are 'not against it' ! I repeat; not 
againstdid I mention 'not'?

GPL is approved by OSI, just like the EPL. We are on the same team. The word 
'against' suggests we are at odds with each other over this. Which we are not, 
never have been and never will be.

Our members (businesses, academia, NGO's) work with/on projects that 
incorporate various licenses. Individual choices depend on 'the right tools for 
the job'. Developers work on projects and in communities that encompass a wide 
spectrum of licenses.
End-users (the ones that fund so many of open spatial projects) determine and 
decide which tools will suit their purposes. And they love our community's 
versatility to meet their demands. Thus furthering the overall success of open 
spatial IT in the world.
The present full spectrum of projects provides a compelling, comprehensive 
storyline as is demonstrated by an increasing number of implementations. 
Worldwide, across industry verticals, profits, non-profits, etc etc. 

Hope this clarifies and let's together move forward!

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 18 aug. 2017 om 11:25 heeft Sandro Santilli <s...@kbt.io> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 09:19:52PM +0200, Helmut Kudrnovsky wrote:
>> 
>> Will locationtech also promote OSGeo projects?
> 
> This is an interesting question, especially as LocationTech is
> against GPL-licensed projects (like GRASS, QGIS, PostGIS)
> 
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Collaboration within the community

2017-08-18 Thread Marc Vloemans
Hi Venka,

Thanks for your kind reply and picking up the Paris-conversation.

As Michael rightfully refers to, and all involved will understand; the MoU (or 
any other type of agreement) has to reflect the interests and 
concerns/challenges of both organisations.

We both have our members to take into account, on behalf of which we act and 
speak. You are dealing with a membership of a multitude of individuals, I speak 
on behalf of a group of projects and businesses. Two sometimes different and 
other times very alike interest groups. Actually, I don't envy you ;-)

At the same time, we are already working together on so many occasions, events, 
projects etc. That has grown incrementally, bottom up and as part of a 
do-ocracy. It has proven to be quite successful and I don't intend to have too 
much red tape interfere with all the good stuff that is happening. 

With OSGeo doing so much in the field of outreach and advocacy and LocationTech 
providing a market place for techno-commercial entities, both working on a 
multitude of interconnected projects, with overlapping communities..that is 
a really powerful combination. We have a world to win!

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 18 aug. 2017 om 07:34 heeft Michael Smith <michael.smith.e...@gmail.com> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Venka,
> 
> This is something we discussed quite a bit at both the Boston F2F and at
> the LocationTech meeting that I was invited to attend. It was agreed that
> we all wanted to work together on the MoU but to also work closer together
> on the process so it reflects interests and concerns on both sides. Norman
> Barker will be attending some OSGeo board meetings to continue the
> discussions and I will be attending some LocationTech meetings as well. We
> need to keep discussing this both at the meetings and on the list to
> continue forward with what is already a very good working relationship.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> Michael Smith
> OSGeo Foundation Treasurer
> treasu...@osgeo.org
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> on behalf of Venkatesh
> Raghavan <ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp>
> Date: Friday, August 18, 2017 at 2:41 AM
> To: Marc Vloemans <marcvloema...@gmail.com>, Helmut Kudrnovsky
> <hel...@web.de>, OSGeo Discussions <discuss@lists.osgeo.org>
> Subject: [Non-DoD Source] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Collaboration is the way
> forward: Note the LocationTech badge is not showing correctly
> Resent-From: Michael Smith <michael.sm...@usace.army.mil>
> 
>> Hi Marc,
>> 
>> Many thanks to LocationTech for supporting
>> OSGeo events and code sprints.
>> 
>> As discussed with you at FOSS4G-Europe last month,
>> we could consider going beyond the "informal" partnership
>> between LocationTech and OSGeo Foundation and having
>> a MoU. I think this would help to answer some of the questions
>> that Helmut has raised and avoid any misunderstandings
>> in the future.
>> 
>> I had sent you some suggestions on drafting an MoU that you can
>> go through and perhaps, find time to discuss f2f with OSGeo board
>> members attending FOSS4G-Boston.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> Venka
>> 
>>> On 2017/08/18 6:23, Marc Vloemans wrote:
>>> Dear Helmut,
>>> 
>>> I am also a charter member. And much more in our ever-growing and
>>> evolving community.
>>> 
>>> LocationTech is a partner of OSGeo, we work on various joint projects,
>>> LocationTech is sponsor of OSGeo code sprints, we work together for many
>>> years on FOSS4G North Amerika. We do valuable complementary work
>>> regarding community and market development.
>>> 
>>> All this has been achieved over the years incrementally and by the
>>> efforts, care and vision of many directly involved. An achievement, that
>>> by raising a discussion as you propose
>>> 
>>> Your confusion thus confuses me (besides Chair of the Marketing
>>> Committee, former Board member of OSGeoNL, member of the LOC FOSS4G
>>> 2016, Chair of FOSS4G North Amerika and  Director Ecosystem
>>> Development Eclipse Foundation with special focus on its Industry
>>> Working Group LocationTech.
>>> 
>>> Your comments are actually turning back the clock.
>>> 
>>> If you may remember, in the recent past some very unfortunately
>>> misunderstandings have created a we/them atmosphere. The present FOSS4G
>>> in Boston proves we are as an inclusive community moving forward.
>>> Towards unimaginable opportunities.
>>> 
>>&g

[OSGeo-Discuss] Collaboration is the way forward: Note the LocationTech badge is not showing correctly

2017-08-17 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear Helmut,

I am also a charter member. And much more in our ever-growing and evolving 
community.

LocationTech is a partner of OSGeo, we work on various joint projects, 
LocationTech is sponsor of OSGeo code sprints, we work together for many years 
on FOSS4G North Amerika. We do valuable complementary work regarding community 
and market development.

All this has been achieved over the years incrementally and by the efforts, 
care and vision of many directly involved. An achievement, that by raising a 
discussion as you propose

Your confusion thus confuses me (besides Chair of the Marketing Committee, 
former Board member of OSGeoNL, member of the LOC FOSS4G 2016, Chair of FOSS4G 
North Amerika and  Director Ecosystem Development Eclipse Foundation 
with special focus on its Industry Working Group LocationTech.

Your comments are actually turning back the clock.

If you may remember, in the recent past some very unfortunately 
misunderstandings have created a we/them atmosphere. The present FOSS4G in 
Boston proves we are as an inclusive community moving forward. Towards 
unimaginable opportunities.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 17 aug. 2017 om 15:19 heeft Helmut Kudrnovsky <hel...@web.de> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> (Taken from https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2017-August/035453.html)
> 
> "Note the LocationTech badge is not not showing correctly"
> 
> now I am, as an OSGeo charter member, really really confused about this. 
> 
> What I'm really missing here is an open discussion and decision making how 
> we, as an organisation OSGeo, going forward to promote projects from other 
> organisations. 
> 
> What is the added value for OSGeo to promote locationtech projects? Will 
> locationtech also promote OSGeo projects? Why not promote projects from any 
> other org? Who will decide which project or other org will be promoted? 
> 
> Too many open questions without any sound background for me as an OSGeo 
> charter member. 
> 
> Kind regards 
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[OSGeo-Discuss] @OSGeo Booth in Boston

2017-08-17 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear Boston-attendees,

We are still Looking for people who want to spend some time at our booth: 
answering questions of visitors etc.

Especially for the Friday breaks, but also in between.

And you could also use the opportunity to connect with old And new friends!

Your help And time is much appreciated. 

Thanks And hope to see you,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gentle reminder reg: Project selection on the new website draft

2017-08-16 Thread Marc Vloemans
Thanks Maxi,

Freeze time will indeed give us time to assemble all feedback, discuss and 
prioritise for further improvements. 
I was not even aware of the holiday season ;-) Enjoy!

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 16 aug. 2017 om 09:10 heeft Massimiliano Cannata 
> <massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Marc
> I agree, great and huge work was done.
> Maybe a freezing period before of any public release/presentation would be 
> good?
> 
> We're not in a hurry... 
> With more time review and discussion can run smoothly?
> 
> Also, We're in the middle of the holiday season and also vacation time is 
> limited :-) to answer and check contents...
> 
> Great work done
> 
> Maxi
> 
> 
> Best
> Maxi
> 
> Il 16 ago 2017 2:42 PM, "Marc Vloemans" <marcvloema...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> I feel that the "tail is wagging the dog" as they say. And we are on the 
>> brink of pushing valuable volunteers too far. Again.
>> 
>> Your feed back on the website is needed, welcomed and enlisted, but please 
>> be it combined with some actionable way to go forward and a helping hand. 
>> The site is still in full progress,  if one looks behind the scenes; there 
>> is a really massive content creation thrust going on, the visitor journey 
>> experience is enhanced on a daily basis, a multitude of tweaks in progress 
>> and . the FOSS4Paris and Foss4gBoston preparations had to be done too.
>> 
>> It is not the the Marketing Committee that has to fix anything regarding 
>> projects and policy related issues here.
>> Jody and many others have had to make decisions - lacking input on various 
>> occasions- in good faith. Often lacking clear direction and decisions and 
>> actual support. This inefficiency has often resulted in rework and loss of 
>> volunteer time. The Committee is fully aware that there are still iterations 
>> to be done. Up till now they have done something extraordinary, unparalleled 
>> in recent OSGeo years. Some slack is in good order.
>> 
>> By the way. The projects that are listed have all an OSI approved license. 
>> That has sufficed in the past. Let the free vs open discussion rest till a 
>> later date (if it needs to be conducted at all). Subdivisions of projects 
>> can be done in various ways: pleasing everyone in our community is a holy 
>> grail. 
>> 
>> And again. Please be aware that there is a finite number of volunteer hours 
>> in a volunteer day. 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> Marc Vloemans
>> 
>> 
>>> Op 16 aug. 2017 om 07:37 heeft Maria Antonia Brovelli 
>>> <maria.brove...@polimi.it> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> I agree completely with Helena. It has to be fixed with the highest 
>>> priority.
>>> 
>>> Have a good day,
>>> 
>>> Maria
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Pay attention to this Special Issue and see if it is of interest by you:
>>> http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/Geospatial_Big_Data_Urban_Studies
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli
>>> Professor of GIS and Remote Sensing
>>> Politecnico di Milano
>>> 
>>> ISPRS WG IV/4 "Collaborative crowdsourced cloud mapping (C3M)" 
>>> http://www2.isprs.org/commissions/comm4/wg4.html, Board of Directors of 
>>> OSGeo; GeoForAll Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; SIFET 
>>> Advisory Board
>>> 
>>> UN-GGIM Academic Network Deputy Chair, UN-GGIM Italy, UN OpenGIS Initiative 
>>> (Chair of the Capacity Building WG)
>>> 
>>> Sol Katz Award 2015
>>>  
>>> P.zza Leonardo da Vinci, 32 - Building 3 - 20133 Milano (Italy)
>>> Tel. +39-02-23996242 - Mob. +39-328-0023867,  maria.brove...@polimi.it
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Da: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> per conto di Helena Mitasova 
>>> <hmit...@ncsu.edu>
>>> Inviato: mercoledì 16 agosto 2017 13:29
>>> A: Paulo van Breugel
>>> Cc: OSGeo Discussions; Helmut Kudrnovsky
>>> Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Project selection on the new website draft
>>>  
>>> Jody, I have to go so I don't have time to write more but this needs to be 
>>> fixed instantly to avoid massive backlash against the new website. After so 
>>> much effort it would be heartbreaking to have a negative reaction just 
&g

[OSGeo-Discuss] Gentle reminder reg: Project selection on the new website draft

2017-08-16 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear all,

I feel that the "tail is wagging the dog" as they say. And we are on the brink 
of pushing valuable volunteers too far. Again.

Your feed back on the website is needed, welcomed and enlisted, but please be 
it combined with some actionable way to go forward and a helping hand. The site 
is still in full progress,  if one looks behind the scenes; there is a really 
massive content creation thrust going on, the visitor journey experience is 
enhanced on a daily basis, a multitude of tweaks in progress and . the 
FOSS4Paris and Foss4gBoston preparations had to be done too.

It is not the the Marketing Committee that has to fix anything regarding 
projects and policy related issues here.
Jody and many others have had to make decisions - lacking input on various 
occasions- in good faith. Often lacking clear direction and decisions and 
actual support. This inefficiency has often resulted in rework and loss of 
volunteer time. The Committee is fully aware that there are still iterations to 
be done. Up till now they have done something extraordinary, unparalleled in 
recent OSGeo years. Some slack is in good order.

By the way. The projects that are listed have all an OSI approved license. That 
has sufficed in the past. Let the free vs open discussion rest till a later 
date (if it needs to be conducted at all). Subdivisions of projects can be done 
in various ways: pleasing everyone in our community is a holy grail. 

And again. Please be aware that there is a finite number of volunteer hours in 
a volunteer day. 

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 16 aug. 2017 om 07:37 heeft Maria Antonia Brovelli 
> <maria.brove...@polimi.it> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> I agree completely with Helena. It has to be fixed with the highest priority.
> 
> Have a good day,
> 
> Maria
> 
> 
> 
> Pay attention to this Special Issue and see if it is of interest by you:
> http://www.mdpi.com/journal/ijgi/special_issues/Geospatial_Big_Data_Urban_Studies
> 
> 
> 
> Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli
> Professor of GIS and Remote Sensing
> Politecnico di Milano
> 
> ISPRS WG IV/4 "Collaborative crowdsourced cloud mapping (C3M)" 
> http://www2.isprs.org/commissions/comm4/wg4.html, Board of Directors of 
> OSGeo; GeoForAll Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; SIFET 
> Advisory Board
> 
> UN-GGIM Academic Network Deputy Chair, UN-GGIM Italy, UN OpenGIS Initiative 
> (Chair of the Capacity Building WG)
> 
> Sol Katz Award 2015
>  
> P.zza Leonardo da Vinci, 32 - Building 3 - 20133 Milano (Italy)
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Da: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> per conto di Helena Mitasova 
> <hmit...@ncsu.edu>
> Inviato: mercoledì 16 agosto 2017 13:29
> A: Paulo van Breugel
> Cc: OSGeo Discussions; Helmut Kudrnovsky
> Oggetto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Project selection on the new website draft
>  
> Jody, I have to go so I don't have time to write more but this needs to be 
> fixed instantly to avoid massive backlash against the new website. After so 
> much effort it would be heartbreaking to have a negative reaction just 
> because we would be perceived  as providing advertising platform for projects 
> which are not really free and open source (I guess we will hear more about 
> this from Stallman tomorrow).  
> 
> Helena
> 
>> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:21 AM, Paulo van Breugel <p.vanbreu...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 8/16/17 9:32 AM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>>> We could ask the OSGeo live project what procedure they use, at the moment 
>>> we have asked on the disc...@osgeo.org mailing list for open source 
>>> projects to fill in a google form so we would have content to try out the 
>>> website with.
>>> 
>>> There is a very clear distinguishing of OSGeo projects on the website:
>>> 
>>> a) Sort order is OSGeo projects > OSGeo Community > Other
>>> b) Only OSGeo projects are available from the menu directly,
>>> c) When listed OSGeo Projects, and OSGeo Community projects are badged with 
>>> the appropriate logo
>>> 
>> When I use the link http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/projects/ directly, I am 
>> seeing the page with all projects, with projects in what seems to be random 
>> order (and with some of the OSGEO projects, like GRASS, on the last page). 
>> Only when I click on 'projects' in the menu am I presented with the projects 
>> grouped in Osgeo projects, osgeo community, others. Wouldn't it be 
>> preferable to use that page as landing page when using the link 
>> http://osgeo.getinteractive.

[OSGeo-Discuss] Booth attendants required FOSS4G Boston

2017-08-12 Thread Marc Vloemans
All,

If you happen to be in Boston, please, take a little time to help out in the 
OSGeo booth.
Besides helping out with questions, it is a great way to meet up with old and 
future friends. 

Especially during the breaks we definitely need you! So, please enter your name 
here:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2017_Booth#OSGeo_Meetings_and_Events

And if you just want to meet up with others and hangoutfeel free to crowd 
the booth!

Looking forward to see you all there during the week. 

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo website/rebranding July Update

2017-08-02 Thread Marc Vloemans
Thanks Vicky, on behalf of all who are still working so hard to finalise 
everything for Boston!

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 1 aug. 2017 om 05:02 heeft Vicky Vergara <vi...@georepublic.de> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> WOW, first impression, looks so modern, its so pretty. great Job!!!
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:53 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Marketing committee reporting in with one of our final updates: Website and 
>> Branding July Update 
>> 
>> Thanks to key sponsors GeoCat and Boundless for financial support.
>> 
>> The exciting news is the beta website is taking shape day by day at 
>> osgeo.getinteractive.nl 
>> 
>> Content migration has been delayed,thanks to Frank Warmerdam for stepping in 
>> top provide Get Interactive access to our drupal server.
>> 
>> LDAP login using "osgeo id" is not avaialble, for new content we have a 
>> number of forms:
>> Software Projects - we invite project teams to fill in this google form with 
>> project details, screen snaps and a team photo if you have it. If you have 
>> previously written an OSGeo Live overview this will take five minutes (most 
>> of which is finding a good team photo). We ask that you discuss which 
>> service providers (companies, organizations or individuals) should be listed 
>> as core contributors for your project.
>> GeoForAll Labs - the GeoForAll project already has a jump on collecting lab 
>> locations and details. Check the GeoForAll list for details and coordination.
>> Service Providers - we invite companies, organizations and individuals 
>> working in our community to connect with website visitors
>> Resources - our community produces a wide range of material we would like to 
>> promote on the website. If you have any appropriate presentations, 
>> workshops, tutorials, white papers or videos please share.
>> FOSS4G Europe marked our first chance to try out the new OSGeo branding. 
>> Thanks to Marc Vloemans for coordinating our debut at the OSGeo booth. The 
>> best part was the code-sprint where we had several teams working. Nicolas 
>> Roelandt and Jody Garnett worked on the content collection forms above. 
>> Astrid, Luca, Venka and more focused on reviewing printed material and 
>> coming up with a list of changes and corrections.
>> 
>> Special thanks for Luca for joining the marketing team in July, helping 
>> communicate feedback on the printed materials and prototyping changes. Luca 
>> has worked hard to make an SVG template for teams wanting to produce an 
>> information sheet for Boston.
>> 
>> If you are attending FOSS4G in person please sign up on the OSGeo Wiki for 
>> website training. We ask that projects and committees take part in this 
>> important activity.
>> --
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] OSGeo is the host of FOSS4G not a guest

2017-07-03 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Dear All,

With my 'Marketing-hat' on, I have followed this thread with interest and
growing apprehension. As is often the case with this type of
discussion-thread: everyone makes a serious point, but we are jointly still
far away from a solution. The good thing: more and more of us seem to care
how we are perceivedfrom a marketing committee
perspectiveabsolutely great!

With only a few weeks to FOSS4G-Europe in Paris and FOSS4G-2017 in Boston,
with FOSS4G-NL last week and FOSS4G-NA-2018 and FOSS4G-2018 in the making
(and other events I am mostly likely forgetting); 'FOSS4G' has become an
established OSGeo brand. Super!

As with brands of this kind, it is usual that the owner (OSGeo, right???)
provides branding-guidelines for all those using it. This to safeguard
mis-use and mis-perceptions. The FOSS4G-ribbon is already 'in the pocket',
but certainly not enough.
The present rebrand exercise is meant to professionalise our promotional
activities with a branding handbook. How the relationship OSGeo and FOSS4G
(international, regional, local) is communicated is definitely worth
addressing in the handbook.

I propose:
- a meeting in Boston on the issue between Board and Marketing Committee.
- anyone having a suggestion/advice/solution to mail it to marketing@
lists.osgeo.org, for collecting
- our present branding agency to provide guidance
- a proposal text to be voted upon by the Board
- integration of this specific guideline into the handbook

Hopefully we can steer this discussion away from 'I want you to do this'
and 'why should I do that' and other 'I ...' to a fruitful discussion in
Boston. Personally, I would welcome these type of topics at such event, as
a non-coder-but-still-interested-in-open-spatial ;-)

With so many volunteers working on so many facets of our community right
now, I would hate to see energy flowing into the wrong direction. Please,
all involved, remain focused on Paris, Boston, the new website and the new
marketing collateral and other initiatives I am ignorant of.

Let's keep the momentum, the mojo, the vibe and focus on the future!
Cheers, Marc

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On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Massimiliano Cannata <
massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> wrote:

> Hi Guido,
> I don't understand why you are frustrated and disheartened by this
> conversation.
> We're not discussing on climate changes :-D
>
> To All of you,
> (i swear it is my last mail in the tread - maybe -)
>
> My point of view is very simple: OSGeo is not a sponsor of the event, is
> the "owner" which selected you great team and proposal for organizing the
> conference. Thus is not correct list OSGeo in the sponsor list.
> Try to open this link: http://2017.foss4g.org/sponsor/ and honestly tell
> me if you understand OSGeo is the host, or do you get the impression it is
> just one of the 20 sponsors?
>
> Since this fact has been part of discussions in the past, I believe it is
> very important to be underlined and communicated to avoid misunderstanding,
> also for the future FOSS4G conferences.
> I believe that details and communication are important (otherwise, for
> example why spend time  and money in marketing and site re-branding?).
>
> And it has nothing to do with the great work you are doing in bringing
> another wonderful foss4g (big big thanks). These are small (but not
> negligible) details..
>
> I just requested the board to take a position on this, without entering in
> details of when, what and why it happened.
> Then I will be happy whatever is the decision and will go on on doing my
> contribution and work for OSGeo ;-)
>
>
> Ciao,
> Maxi
>
> 2017-07-03 14:29 GMT+02:00 Ian Turton <ijtur...@gmail.com>:
>
>> I have to disagree here, to me it is clear that OSGeo is presenting
>> ("owns") the conference while by listing the contributions the OSGeo
>> provides (seed money etc) formally on the Sponsors' page/list it makes it
>> clear just how much money (and time) the OSGeo is putting it into the
>> event.
>>
>> By formally listing as a sponsor it probably makes it easier to handle
>> things like remembering to allocate booth space, passes etc as it is
>> already on the spreadsheet when those tasks are carried out.
>>
>> Ian
>>
>> On 2 July 2017 at 09:22, Massimiliano Cannata <
>> massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear community and board members,
>>> Today I found out that OSGeo is a a SPONSOR of the FOSS4G-2017 Boston
>>> conference.
>>>
>>> This is disappointing me !
>>>
>>> At least for two reasons:
>>>
>>> 1- 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] sponsor benefits

2017-03-08 Thread Marc Vloemans
Jody et al,

I believe it is the Marketing Committee's task to arrange the OSGeo booth. 
That is how we did it in Bonn; with the LOC we determine a representative 
location on the conference floor  including light And power And furniture. At 
no cost ;-)
Booth is decorated And (wo)manned by the committee reps on the premises.

In order to honour the arrangements with sponsors new banners are printed (best 
locally done).

Would be best If Guido And I have direct contact. More efficiënt. 

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 22 feb. 2017 om 16:26 heeft Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> I am not sure myself so I was using disc...@osgeo.org.
> 
> For booth stuff there is some organization on the wiki from prior years:
> - https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2015_OSGeo_Booth (Thanks Jeff!)
> - https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2016_OSGeo_Booth (Thanks everyone, and 
> Anita who was there each time I visited)
> 
> --
> Jody Garnett
> 
>> On 22 February 2017 at 10:19, Guido Stein <gst...@appgeo.com> wrote:
>> I will be talking to Anthony more about the B2B and I will be happy to 
>> continue to sus out the booth stuff. 
>> 
>> Should I report back to this list and/or the wiki somewhere?
>> 
>> -guido
>> 
>>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 9:33 AM Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> So coming out of this meeting there are a bunch of good ideas - but we will 
>>> need volunteers to run them to ground.
>>> 
>>> I am going to clean up the web pages a bit:
>>> 
>>> - http://www.osgeo.org/sponsorship/opportunities (need to update this page 
>>> for 2017 based on http://www.osgeo.org/node/1755 blog post).
>>> - http://www.osgeo.org/sponsorship
>>> 
>>> Guido are you happy to take on the "networking event" ideas for foss4g? It 
>>> sounds like you had a b2b event already being planned.
>>> 
>>> How to handle the OSGeo booth (at foss4g and other events) has been a bit 
>>> random. I do not know if I should start with the board or the marketing 
>>> committee.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>> 
>>> On 20 February 2017 at 18:47, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks to those who participated in OSGeo sponsors chat this morning, here 
>>> are some notes for the email list.
>>> 
>>> I would like to highlight two common themes:
>>> 
>>> The organizations represented in the meeting already very generous with 
>>> their time and resources (even before it comes to question of sponsorship). 
>>>  We need to reach out to new organizations that are benefiting from the 
>>> work we do at OSGeo and are not engaging as part of our community.
>>> 
>>> There is lots that can be done for sponsors, beyond placing sponsor logos 
>>> on a website. This is something I would ask us all to work on (foss4g 
>>> global, regional events, projects and our foundation as a whole).
>>> 
>>> Here are those notes
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Attending:
>>> Anthony Calamito (Boundless)
>>> Jody Garnett (OSGeo Board)
>>> Simone Giannecchini(GeoSolutions) - 
>>> Regina Obe (Pargagon Corporation / FOSS4G Boston)
>>> Michael Smith (OSGeo Board / Treasurer)
>>> Guido Stein (FOSS4G Boston)
>>> Jeroen Ticheler (GeoCat)
>>> Angelos Tzotsos (OSGeo)
>>> 1) Introductions
>>> 
>>> 2) Review of what OSGeo currently offers sponsors:
>>> Sponsorship 2017
>>> http://www.osgeo.org/node/1755
>>> 3) Ideas and Feedback
>>> 
>>> Simone (GeoSolutions)
>>> 
>>> Reaching out for sponsors is fine, by why approach the companies on this 
>>> call, each of which already support OSGeo (often directly contributing 
>>> time).
>>> 
>>> Q: Where are the organizations those who profit from this?
>>> 
>>> Feedback on sponsoring local events, often they just want to accept money 
>>> and have no futher contact/engagement with sponsors.  Example of sponsoring 
>>> a local (Italian?) event not considering a GeoServer talk as the project is 
>>> already too famous...
>>> 
>>> This is a difficult feedback to address as we do not directly 
>>> control/influence events put on by local chapters. I would kind of be 
>>> content for these events to be avoided by sponsors if they cannot be 
>>> bothered to provide value.
>>> 
>>> Anthony (Boundl

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The "elusive business of open" and how to make good morals equate to good business

2016-12-13 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Hi Cameron,

Loved your presentation/blog.
Have written a suggestion for extra slide on the role of commercial service
providers in an open-ecosystem ("community-plus")
regards marc

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2016-12-02 18:15 GMT+01:00 SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA <
sergio.acostayl...@mtop.gub.uy>:

> Thanks Cameron. I found it very interesting.
> Best,
>
> Sergio Acosta y Lara
> Departamento de Geomática
> Dirección Nacional de Topografía
> Ministerio de Transporte y Obras Públicas
> URUGUAY
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> http://geoportal.mtop.gub.uy/
>
> 
> De: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> en nombre de Cameron
> Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com>
> Enviado: sábado, 26 de noviembre de 2016 18:00
> Para: OSGeo Discussions
> Asunto: [OSGeo-Discuss] The "elusive business of open" and how to make
> good morals equate to good business
>
> I presented recently on "The elusive business of open" at a surveying
> conference, focusing on how to develop a successful Open Strategy.
>
> I'd be interested to hear feedback:
>
> http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com.au/2016/11/the-
> elusive-open-business.html
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Txt Martine

2016-10-07 Thread Marc Vloemans
Ik heb nooit iets geclaimd, dus verbaasd me dat je 

Je praat (oekazes) tegen me en niet met mij. 

Bottom line

Dankbaar voor twee weken de kids niet om je heen hebben

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Election 2016] Board of Directors elections results

2016-10-05 Thread Marc Vloemans
Congratulations to the new Board.
I hope to work with you on a comprehensive marketing strategy and execution.

Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 5 okt. 2016 om 15:30 heeft Jeffrey Johnson <ortel...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Congrats to the new Board and thanks to everyone who voted for me.
> 
> Looking forward to seeing whats next for OSGeo.
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 1:59 AM, Jorge Sanz <js...@osgeo.org> wrote:
>> Dear OSGeo community,
>> 
>> These are the results from the 2016 elections[1] for the 4 open
>> seats[2]  of the OSGeo Board of Directors. The results in alphabetical
>> order are:
>> 
>> * Angelos Tzotsos
>> * Maria Antonia Brovelli
>> * Michael Smith
>> * Vasile Craciunescu
>> 
>> Thanks to all candidates to oging through the elections process.
>> Election figures are:
>> 
>> * 78.8% participation (246 of 312)
>> * 6 incomplete responses
>> * 60 members not opened the voting
>> 
>> There were no scores to arbitrate. Thank you all who voted!!
>> 
>> The complete resulting Board for 2016/2017 is:
>> 
>> * Angelos Tzotsos
>> * Anita Graser
>> * Helena Mitasova
>> * Jody Garnett
>> * Maria Antonia Brovelli
>> * Michael Smith
>> * Sanghee Shin
>> * Vasile Craciunescu
>> * Venkatesh Raghavan
>> 
>> Maybe it's my impression but is not the most diverse Board we've had?
>> Anyway, I will update the wiki pages for the Board of Directors ASAP.
>> 
>> Please congratulate the new OSGeo Directors!
>> 
>> A warm thank you for the outgoing Directors Maxi and Dirk for all your
>> efforts for the Foundation, looking forward to keep seeing your hard
>> work for the community in many other fronts.
>> 
>> My job as CRO is almost finished now, I will update the wiki with the
>> detailed results[3] as soon as possible. I want to give a big thank
>> you to everyone for your cooperation but specially to Jeff McKenna for
>> his always close look to all my actions fixing small issues and taking
>> care of the job when I was absent. I will open a separate thread for a
>> couple of discussions about this process and also a small
>> retrospective and lessons learnt.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> 
>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2016
>> [2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Member_Nominations_2016
>> [3] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Election_2016_Results
>> 
>> --
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo stickers anyone?

2016-09-30 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Dear Patrick et al

Rest assured; as the one responsible I can only say that our scarce
marketing resources are deployed with careful consideration. 15k only can
do so much for this year. But the time and effort that an increasing number
of people in the Marketing Committee and - most notably - in our community
at large spend is invaluably a lot more than 15k.

If members feel they need funding for outreach and advocacy they are
invited to submit a proposal to the (recently revived) Marketing Committee.
Whether for promotional material (downloadable at OSGeo.org) to support
specific OSGeo related activities or elsethat is the committee to
decide. Depending on available budget, expected value added and impact.

To misquote someone wiser than myself;
'We conquer the world, sticker by sticker, laptop by laptop, student by
student, department by department, organisation by organisation, country by
country, continent by continent'
and it all started with a single sticker ;-)

Have a great weekend y'all.

Marc

Op vrijdag 30 september 2016 heeft Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> het volgende geschreven:

> Hope that OSGEO applies their 'marketing budget' so that that future might
> happen.
>
> Best assurance for that is to maximize our students intent to deliver OS
> ^results^ with OS tools.
>
> The measure of the future we will have is in how well we both educate and
> challenge our children.
>
> If we only worshipped our children for the gods they are, we would all be
> in heaven today.
>
> -Patrick
>
> How much are those stickers worth on eBay anyway? Less than the postage I
> imagine.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org <javascript:;>] On
> Behalf Of Jeff McKenna
> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2016 7:02 PM
> To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org <javascript:;>
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo stickers anyone?
>
> Hi Madi, Anne, thanks for promoting OSGeo!  I think also Astrid has some
> cool OSGeo stickers (the 'cube' one).  We can also reimburse the costs to
> ship them to you, as part of the marketing budget.  Thank you again!
>
> -jeff
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jeff McKenna
> President Emeritus, OSGeo
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jeff_McKenna
>
>
>
>
> On 2016-09-29 2:45 PM, Margherita Di Leo wrote:
> > Hi all!
> > At the end of October Anne and I will attend the Google mentor summit in
> > Mountain View. There will be stickers exchange among attendees and we
> > think it'd be nice to bring some OSGeo stickers. Does anybody happen to
> > have some spare ones perhaps left over from previous events and could
> > mail us?
> > Thanks in advance
> > Cheers
> > Madi
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo stickers anyone?

2016-09-29 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Got an idealet's open up a tattoo booth at FOSS4G2017.a free OSGeo
logo for a discount on entry ticket  If tattooed in a forever visible
spot  The least ephemeral marketing campaign in our history


Op donderdag 29 september 2016 heeft Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> het volgende geschreven:

> Well, being stuck on stickers sounds better than the prick of a tattoo.
>
> I like the ephemeral nature of it.
>
> Or maybe I’m just old fashioned.  ;-)
>
>
>
> *From:* Marc Vloemans [mailto:marcvloema...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marcvloema...@gmail.com');>]
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 10:32 PM
> *To:* Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)
> *Cc:* Margherita Di Leo; OSGeo Discussions
> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo stickers anyone?
>
>
>
> Hey Patrick,
>
>
>
> Perhaps too much of a European naming issue ;-)
>
> pieces of plastic/paper with a logo, picture and or txt on the front
> and adhesive on the backoften used on the back of cars in an attempt to
> amuse/annoy the car you just passed."if you can read this you are too
> close"...my on line translation tool seems to use the same term:
> stickerrings a bell ?
>
>
>
>
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Marc Vloemans
>
>
>
>
> Op 29 sep. 2016 om 21:48 heeft Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <
> patrick.ho...@nasa.gov
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','patrick.ho...@nasa.gov');>> het volgende
> geschreven:
>
> Madi, Howdy!
>
>
> I have just  asked our foreign visitor approval folks for the third time
> of the approval status for you visit. Everything should be okay.
>
>
>
> As for stickers, have no idea what you ate talking about. What is a
> sticker?
>
>
>
> -Patrick
>
> (650) 269-2788 (cell)
>
>
>
> *From:* Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org');>] *On
> Behalf Of *Margherita Di Leo
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:46 PM
> *To:* OSGeo Discussions
> *Subject:* [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo stickers anyone?
>
>
>
> Hi all!
>
> At the end of October Anne and I will attend the Google mentor summit in
> Mountain View. There will be stickers exchange among attendees and we think
> it'd be nice to bring some OSGeo stickers. Does anybody happen to have some
> spare ones perhaps left over from previous events and could mail us?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Cheers
>
> Madi
>
>
>
> --
>
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>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo stickers anyone?

2016-09-29 Thread Marc Vloemans
Hey Patrick,

Perhaps too much of a European naming issue ;-)
pieces of plastic/paper with a logo, picture and or txt on the front and 
adhesive on the backoften used on the back of cars in an attempt to 
amuse/annoy the car you just passed."if you can read this you are too 
close"...my on line translation tool seems to use the same term: 
stickerrings a bell ?



Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 29 sep. 2016 om 21:48 heeft Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
> <patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Madi, Howdy!
> 
> I have just  asked our foreign visitor approval folks for the third time of 
> the approval status for you visit. Everything should be okay.
>  
> As for stickers, have no idea what you ate talking about. What is a sticker?
>  
> -Patrick
> (650) 269-2788 (cell)
>  
> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of 
> Margherita Di Leo
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2016 7:46 PM
> To: OSGeo Discussions
> Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo stickers anyone?
>  
> Hi all!
> At the end of October Anne and I will attend the Google mentor summit in 
> Mountain View. There will be stickers exchange among attendees and we think 
> it'd be nice to bring some OSGeo stickers. Does anybody happen to have some 
> spare ones perhaps left over from previous events and could mail us?
> Thanks in advance 
> Cheers
> Madi
> 
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Candidate Statement for Jeffrey Johnson

2016-09-26 Thread Marc Vloemans
Hi

I think it is a great initiative. 
I am open for question/answer session (I do not see any point in discussion 
among candidates)
If time is known well in advance, I am happy to adapt my work schedule at 
everyone's convenience.



Kind regards,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 26 sep. 2016 om 15:52 heeft Jorge Sanz <js...@osgeo.org> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
>> On 25 September 2016 at 20:46, Jeffrey Johnson <ortel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> IRC would be easiest, but a little less 'real-time'. I'd be happy to
>> participate anywhere/any time we could reach a critical mass of
>> participants both from the candidates and community.
>> 
>>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Sandro Santilli <s...@kbt.io> wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 08:59:05AM -0700, Jeffrey Johnson wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Happy to answer any questions here or via other channels. Can we have
>>>> a hangout 'debate'? :)
>>> 
>>> If you do, please use a free software alternative, not "hangout".
>>> Here's one: https://meet.jit.si/osgeo
>>> 
>>> Or even better (requires less resources to partecipate):
>>>  irc://irc.freenode.net/#osgeo
>>>  also accessible (same place) as:
>>>  https://webchat.freenode.net/#osgeo
>>>  or
>>>  https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#osgeo
>>> 
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> 
> HI,
> 
> I can help on organizing this, no problem.
> 
> But we need support from the rest of the candidates, since it wasn't
> planned and can be challenging with the different timezones but since
> it's just US/Europe, it's doable.
> 
> What other candidates think? Personally I'm fine with the nominations
> + manifestos but if you think an open discussion is worth I'm glad to
> do it ASAP.
> 
> Cheers
> 
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Campaign statement for Marc Vloemans

2016-09-26 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Dear Charter members et al,

For those of you that I have not had the pleasure to meet, drink and/or
work with, I am Marc Vloemans. Since 2000 I have been instrumental in
raising the profile for open source in general in The Netherlands and
abroad. More specifically, I have been active as a market and business
developer for open spatial IT; finding and convincing end-users.

My strategies, tactics and methods to achieve more traction for open
spatial IT include(d) writing books, articles and blogs, acting as a
lobbyist with Dutch and EU Parliament, setting up a market leading Dutch
open GIS company, organising a cooperation of open spatial IT players, LOC
FOSS4G Bonn and Dutch Local Chapter memberships, OSGeo Marketing Chair and
the like.

Besides I have served and still serve on various (non-)profit boards.
This is where my past experiences, learnings and achievements ultimately
come together and hopefully complement those of my fellow board members.
Our projects and local chapters are the corner stones of OSGeo. As
Marketing Chair I am in the process of organising a bottom up approach to
our strategic direction. I hope to close the loop as a Board member; from
strategy to implementation.

Judging from the list of great candidates I am pretty sure I can contribute
my own unique skills and experience to cast our open spatial net farther
afield then ever before. Building bridges towards adjacent communities,
reaching out to new geographical and sectoral user groups, engaging our own
community..

Please feel free to contact me for more information.
Thank you for your time and my nomination.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo booth at state of the map

2016-09-15 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Johan,

The marketing collateral is to be down loaded from the osgeo wiki and
printed per activity. Shopping hard copy around the globe leaves us with
too much of a carbon foot print ;-)
Link: search for 'Marketing Material Samples
or Banner
AM now on mobile

cheers marc

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2016-09-15 10:46 GMT+02:00 Johan Van de Wauw <johan.vandew...@gmail.com>:

> Hi all,
>
> Next week (23 - 25 september) there will be the yearly open streetmap
> conference (state of the map) in Brussels. OSGeo (technically speaking
> OSGeo.be) will have a booth there.
>
> If you are planning to join the conference and would like to staff our
> booth, please let us know, by mailing me or updating our wiki page: [1]
>
> We could also still use some marketing material (stickers/flyers/...).
> Anyone around who can send or bring those?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Johan
>
> See you at maptember: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Belgium/Booth_SOTM2016
>
> [1]: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Belgium/Booth_SOTM2016
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Election 2016] Board Nomination for Angelos Tzotsos

2016-09-08 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
+1 for Angelos

Op donderdag 8 september 2016 heeft Cameron Shorter <
cameron.shor...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

> +1 to have Angelos join the OSGeo Board.
>
> I've worked closely with Angelos on the OSGeo-Live project, where we have
> voted him as chair of the Project Steering Committee. He stands out by:
>
> * Always being welcoming and helpful to the large OSGeo-Live developers
> and users
>
> * Always being thankful for whatever help people give, and filling in and
> doing the unglamorous tasks where no volunteers step up
>
> * Being wise and practical in advising on next steps forward
>
> Angelos is a man who gets things done and will be a huge asset to the
> OSGeo Board.
>
> Cameron
>
> On 9/09/2016 5:50 AM, Tom Kralidis wrote:
>
>> I second Jorge's nomination.  Angelos' tireless dedication to OSGeo
>> and versatility are a great fit for being on the Board in support of
>> evolving
>> and moving forward OSGeo.
>>
>> ..Tom
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Jorge Sanz <js...@osgeo.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Forwarding Angelos Tzotsos nomination to the board of directors by Jeff
>>> McKenna
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jorge
>>> CRO 2016
>>>
>>> -- Mensaje reenviado --
>>> De: "Jeff McKenna" <jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com>
>>> Fecha: 8 sept. 2016 19:22
>>> Asunto: Board nomination for Angelos Tzotsos
>>> Para: <c...@osgeo.org>
>>> Cc: "Angelos Tzotsos" <tzot...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> name: Angelos Tzotsos
>>>> e-mail: tzot...@gmail.com
>>>> country: Greece
>>>>
>>>> It is my pleasure and honour to nominate Angelos Tzotsos for the OSGeo
>>>> Board of Directors.  As most of the community knows, Angelos is
>>>> extremely
>>>> dedicated, and passionately does whatever he can do help with all things
>>>> OSGeo.  It is hard to list all of his activities, but he is most known
>>>> as
>>>> the chair of the OSGeo-Live team, as well as being a project steering
>>>> committee member for the pycsw and ZOO-Project communities; Angelos is
>>>> very
>>>> active in many other OSGeo communities[1]. He is a senior researcher at
>>>> the
>>>> National Technical University of Athens, but you can see his smile at
>>>> FOSS4G
>>>> events all around the world.  Angelos is very easy going, approachable,
>>>> and
>>>> brings a get-things-done mentality; I feel strongly that he will do a
>>>> great
>>>> job representing the OSGeo community at the highest level.  Please
>>>> welcome
>>>> Angelos to the Board of Directors.
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Angelos_Tzotsos
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Jeff McKenna
>>>> President Emeritus, OSGeo
>>>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Election 2016] Board Nomination for Michael Smith

2016-09-08 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1 for Michael

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 8 sep. 2016 om 21:34 heeft Jeffrey Johnson <ortel...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Very much +1 on this nomination. Michael, thanks for being willing to
> stay on and continue the great work with the finances.
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Andrea Ross <andrea.r...@eclipse.org> wrote:
>> Third, or +1. Can't say enough positive things about Mike. It's so great
>> he's willing to run again.
>> 
>> Andrea
>> 
>> On September 8, 2016 2:46:17 PM EDT, Daniel Morissette
>> <dmorisse...@mapgears.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I second Mike's nomination. Mike has done a great job taking over the
>>> Treasurer duties as well as representing OSGeo at various events, and we
>>> are very fortunate that he is willing to stand for re-election and
>>> continue to serve.
>>> 
>>> Daniel
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2016-09-08 2:41 PM, Jorge Sanz wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Forwarding Michael Smith nomination to the board of directors by Stephan
>>>> Meißl.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jorge
>>>> CRO 2016
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>>> From: Stephan Meißl <step...@meissl.name>
>>>> Date: 7 September 2016 at 10:52
>>>> Subject: Nomination of Michael Smith as board member
>>>> To: OSGeo CRO <c...@osgeo.org>
>>>> Cc: Michael Smith <michael.smith.e...@gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>> 
>>>> Hi
>>>> there,
>>>> 
>>>> I'd like to nominate Michael Smith from the US as board member.
>>>> 
>>>> Mike works as Physical Scientist with the Remote Sensing GIS Center of
>>>> Expertise at the Cold Regions Research Engineering Laboratory of the US
>>>> Army Corps of Engineers. He has been a long time power user, supporter,
>>>> and contributor of MapServer, GDAL/OGR, and other OSGeo projects. He is
>>>> a member of the MapServer as well as the PDAL PSC. He is a FOSS4G
>>>> regular and hasn't missed a single one since the 2003 MapServer Users
>>>> Meeting as far as I know. Mike is the present OSGeo treasurer and has
>>>> already served on the board for the last couple of years. I believe he
>>>> is really doing a great job representing OSGeo and he is a perfect
>>>> candidate to continue serving on the board. See his user page for more
>>>> information: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Michael_Smith
>>>> 
>>>> cu
>>>> 
>>>> Stephan
>>>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free and Open Source Geographic Information Technologies Conference in South America

2016-07-22 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear Sergio,



Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 22 jul. 2016 om 14:54 heeft SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA 
> <sergio.acostayl...@mtop.gub.uy> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> I need to contact the OSGeo Marketing Committee​ as it is explained below.
> Thank you,
> 
> Sergio Acosta y Lara
> Departamento de Geomática
> Dirección Nacional de Topografía
> Ministerio de Transporte y Obras Públicas
> URUGUAY
> De: Discuss <discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org> en nombre de SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA 
> <sergio.acostayl...@mtop.gub.uy>
> Enviado: viernes, 15 de julio de 2016 12:27
> Para: Suchith Anand; geofor...@lists.osgeo.org; discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free and Open Source Geographic Information 
> Technologies Conference in South America
>  
> I guess I will be able. But I'll need more details from the OSGeo Marketing 
> Committee...
> 
> Sergio Acosta y Lara
> Departamento de Geomática
> Dirección Nacional de Topografía
> Ministerio de Transporte y Obras Públicas
> URUGUAY
> De: Suchith Anand <suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>
> Enviado: martes, 12 de julio de 2016 16:14
> Para: SERGIO ACOSTAYLARA; geofor...@lists.osgeo.org; discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> Asunto: RE: Free and Open Source Geographic Information Technologies 
> Conference in South America
>  
> Hi Sergio,
> 
> Thank you for the updates on the Free and Open Source Geographic Information 
> Technologies Conference in  South America and great to hear that you will be 
> presenting Geo4All. It is a great opportunity to spread Geo4All ideas to more 
> universities and educational institutes in the region.
> 
> We will promote this through our channels in other communities also (ICA, 
> ISPRS etc) for wider impact and participation.Please also send a summary 
> report with photos of the conference for the Geo4All newsletter. 
> 
> Will you be able to hand out OSGeoLive DVDs at the event for the 
> participants? If so, may i request you to contact the OSGeo marketing 
> committee and they should be able to guide and help you make the necessary 
> arrangements. It will help spread the message more widely and create more 
> impact.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Suchith
>  
> From: Discuss [discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of SERGIO 
> ACOSTAYLARA [sergio.acostayl...@mtop.gub.uy]
> Sent: 12 July 2016 6:04 PM
> To: geofor...@lists.osgeo.org; discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Free and Open Source Geographic Information 
> Technologies Conference in South America
> 
> Dear colleagues,
> Maybe you already know that the Uruguayan gvSIG Community is organising for 
> late October a Free and Open Source Geographic Information Technologies 
> Conference (http://www.gvsig.com/en/eventos/jornadas-lac/2016) which will be 
> our 4th. Uruguayan gvSIG Conference and the 8th. Latin American and Caribbean 
> gvSIG Conference. It is not exactly a FOSS4G event but almost. It has become 
> a landmark event for the country and the region. I will be presenting 
> GeoForAll in it so as to promote it between Latin American colleagues. It 
> will be really helpful to have the support of the Geo4all network to 
> strengthen this promotion. I'm sure it will be very positive for the success 
> of our Conference as well as for the development of Geo4all. Let me invite 
> all members to this event specially those from Latin America and the 
> Caribbean. It will be great to meet some of you here in Montevideo.
> Thanks for your time,
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: nomination for Larry Shaffer

2016-07-20 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 21 jul. 2016 om 00:01 heeft Luigi Pirelli <lui...@gmail.com> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> +1 of course
> Luigi Pirelli
> 
> **
> * Boundless QGIS Support/Development: lpirelli AT boundlessgeo DOT com
> * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/luigipirelli
> * Stackexchange: http://gis.stackexchange.com/users/19667/luigi-pirelli
> * GitHub: https://github.com/luipir
> * Mastering QGIS:
> https://www.packtpub.com/application-development/mastering-qgis
> **
> 
> 
>> On 20 July 2016 at 22:52, Andreas Hocevar <andreas.hoce...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I second the nomination. Larry is awesome, as a person and as QGIS
>> expert, and probably much more.
>> 
>> Andreas.
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:49 PM, Newcomb, Doug <doug_newc...@fws.gov> 
>>> wrote:
>>> I second the nomination.  Larry does a lot of good work!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Doug
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 4:39 PM, Vasile Craciunescu <vas...@geo-spatial.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Forwarding Larry Shaffer nomination by Jody Garnett.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Vasile
>>>> 2016 OSGeo Elections CRO
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  Forwarded Message 
>>>> Subject:nomination for Larry Shaffer
>>>> Date:   Mon, 18 Jul 2016 12:27:29 -0700
>>>> From:   Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: Vasile Crăciunescu <c...@osgeo.org>
>>>> CC: lar...@dakotacarto.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *name*
>>>> Larry Shaffer
>>>> 
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *paragraph describing why you are recommending this person as a Charter
>>>> Member*
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> Larry does so much as a developer and spokesperson for both open source
>>>> and the QGIS community. Larry is a core committer on the QGIS project,
>>>> having worked on a number of different areas of the project, from the GUI
>>>> down to writing most of the current labelling engine. Recently Larry
>>>> presented a "State of QGIS" talk at foss4g-na. Larry is also active at the
>>>> OSGeo level working with members of the system administration committee to
>>>> set up signed mac applications for both the QGIS and GeoServer projects.
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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[OSGeo-Discuss] The FOSS4G 2016 complete program is out!

2016-06-24 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
The FOSS4G 2016 complete program is out!

The LOC  is proud to present the full schedule of our annual gathering of
the tribes! The Program Committee 2016 has put together the best program
with 180 awesome talks, chosen with your active help. Doing the impossible
is not an easy task, so bear with us as small changes may still occur. (In
case you wonder; how so ‘impossible’? Well, the pleasing everyone kind!)

FOSS4G2016 features the usual subjects, e.g. web mapping development
community projects (e.g. GeoServer, MapServer, GRASS, PostGIS etc.) through
workshops, code sprints and presentations.

However, FOSS4G2016 intends to build bridges towards communities with
interests and work adjacent to and overlapping with ours. Thus, we have
chosen 4 key themes: Land Information, Open Data, Disaster Management and
Earth Observation. As a result, the program is built to offer a tight link
between talks and tracks.

FOSS4G2016 will present 7 keynote speakers, geospatial gurus sharing their
knowledge and experience. A quick look at our list of keynotes, will
convince you that we have been true to our word, building bridges to take
us all the way across communities and back.

For example, we will listen to *A*ndreas Veispak (Head of Unit for Space
Data for Societal Challenges and Growth at the European Commission) Klaus
Deininger (Lead Economist at the Development Research Group of the World
Bank) investigating how advances in Earth Observation, computing power and
connectivity could help reduce poverty. Internationally recognised expert
Ton Zijlstra will initiate us in the complex world of open data and its
many implications for us.

This year, we introduce a new opportunity for attendee interaction; the
‘topic talk’. During conference days, a dedicated Lab will be the
place-to-be to foster new ideas and encourage discussions around subjects.

For example, (for newcomers) the relationship between open source and open
standards, gently lead by Athina Trakas and Ingo Simonis from OGC. How to
best couple land information and open source facilitated by Arnulf Christl
(Metaspatial) and John Gitau (UN-Habitat - United Nations Human Settlements
Programme). Markus Neteler (Mundialis) and Christian Strobl (German
Aerospace Centre, DLR) will tackle how open source and open data translates
into the Copernicus Program.

Even more in tune with the spirit of our community, we have prepared the
Speakers' Corner. Here, any FOSS4G participant is the absolute owner of 5
full minutes to share a project, to float an idea, to start a discussion or
engage otherwise with the audience. Of course, for informal lengthy talks
the BoF is the place to go. Just pick a theme.

These are just glimpses of what FOSS4G 2016 has in store for you.

We kindly invite you to check the program and to map your own FOSS4G 2016
journey: [http://foss4g2016.org/programme.html]

We hope to meet you in Bonn!

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Volunteers needed for the FOSS4G 2016 Booth in Bonn

2016-06-14 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
To all

who (intend to) visit FOSS4G 2016 in Bonn (http://foss4g2016.org):

OSGeo needs (very ;-) part-time booth-attendants to answer general
questions about our community, its projects, its initiatives, redirect
tough questions and so on.

Our own OSGeo-booth will be a focal point during the conference,
the place to hang out with old friends and make new ones,
the opportunity to welcome new community members.

If you happen to be there and feel like you can spend an hour (or two)
during one of the core conference days (24-25-26 August), mainly during one
of the breaks and afternoon,

please contact me at marcvloema...@gmail.com

so I can put together a roster that suits all.

Thanks in advance and kind regards,

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2016 and diversity

2016-05-30 Thread Marc Vloemans
Cameron,

I think you misunderstood the aim of my comment.
I am not talking about human rights as such. (Unless they are threatened, of 
course)

I am addressing the need to guard and promote our inclusivity. If we want to 
grow and develop as a community we need to take any past/present/future concern 
about it seriously. 

That is an integral part of our marketing and communications effort: avoid 
wrong perceptions and manage our public image where/when possible. Whether such 
perceptions address the nature of our code, our projects, our members, our 
organisation and its policies or our activities.

Hope this clarifies, cheers,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 30 mei 2016 om 23:28 heeft Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> All,
> 
> While I'm hugely in favour of mutual respect, and I personally co-authored 
> the OSGeo Code-Of-Conduct, I feel that OSGeo shouldn't aim to be a forum for 
> human rights. (There are other places for this).
> Our primary focus should be on supporting the creation of great OSGeo code, 
> and supporting the communities doing this.
> 
> Having a Code-Of-Conduct in place is a small part of supporting a community, 
> and we should refer to it in cases where conversations or interactions 
> deviate from good behavior, but I'm hopeful that we can leave it at that, and 
> focus our time on our core code writing passions.
> 
> Warm regards, Cameron
>> On 30/05/2016 7:30 pm, Marc Vloemans wrote:
>> Thanks Andrea,
>> 
>> You are quite right, unfortunately. Sharing and discussing experiences and 
>> insights on this could come across as negative.
>> 
>> The same happened when I read an earlier discussion on a Code of Conduct for 
>> conferences. Frankly I was abhorred that such code was deemed necessary. 
>> Until I realised that I was perhaps ignorant (living in Amsterdam is such a 
>> privilege).
>> 
>> Can I invite you to share your list-of-thoughts regarding potential pitfalls 
>> for a Conference at least with me (marcvloemans1[at]gmail.com)? It would be 
>> such a shame if we unintentionally overlook the obvious!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Marc Vloemans
>> 
>> 
>> Op 30 mei 2016 om 03:49 heeft Andrea Ross <andrea.r...@eclipse.org> het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> Marc,
>>> 
>>> I started to write a whole bunch of thoughts related to this but instead 
>>> decided against as I felt it was stating the obvious and I didn't want the 
>>> thoughts to be perceived as negative.
>>> 
>>> The essence was that these things  you have listed are great, and they help 
>>> keep things from being screwed up, but they're not the hard work that it 
>>> takes to really make a difference. So good, but so much more is needed.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Andrea
>>> 
>>>> On 28/05/16 11:26, Marc Vloemans wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> To build upon the positive results as mentioned in the thread below, I 
>>>> invite anyone to supply any suggestion that may support the LOC FOSS4G 
>>>> 2016 in Bonn Germany, regarding diversity related policies during the 
>>>> actual Conference. Either directly to me or via this list.
>>>> 
>>>> As LOC we strive to be aware that public policies and personal experiences 
>>>> vary per continent, region, country and/or province. However, living in 
>>>> Western-Europe we sometimes are unaware how fortunate we are! That could 
>>>> hinder us in anticipating potential fears, uncertainties and doubts that 
>>>> visitors to Bonn may have.
>>>> 
>>>> For starters, please note the following from 
>>>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Germany :
>>>> 
>>>> "Germany has become the first country in Europe to enact a law that allows 
>>>> German citizens to choose to neither identify as male or female on their 
>>>> birth certificate, which has been said to specifically benefit 
>>>> hermaphrodites and intersex persons."
>>>> 
>>>> Unfortunately same sex marriage is still 'under construction', but that 
>>>> does not reflect negatively on a number of laws protecting the rights of 
>>>> the LGBTI community (including registered partnership).
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards and hopefully we meet in Bonn,
>>>> Marc Vloemans
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Vriendelijke groet,
>>>> Marc Vloemans
>>>> 
>&

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2016 and diversity

2016-05-30 Thread Marc Vloemans
Thanks Andrea,

You are quite right, unfortunately. Sharing and discussing experiences and 
insights on this could come across as negative.

The same happened when I read an earlier discussion on a Code of Conduct for 
conferences. Frankly I was abhorred that such code was deemed necessary. Until 
I realised that I was perhaps ignorant (living in Amsterdam is such a 
privilege).

Can I invite you to share your list-of-thoughts regarding potential pitfalls 
for a Conference at least with me (marcvloemans1[at]gmail.com)? It would be 
such a shame if we unintentionally overlook the obvious!

Cheers,

Marc Vloemans


> Op 30 mei 2016 om 03:49 heeft Andrea Ross <andrea.r...@eclipse.org> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Marc,
> 
> I started to write a whole bunch of thoughts related to this but instead 
> decided against as I felt it was stating the obvious and I didn't want the 
> thoughts to be perceived as negative.
> 
> The essence was that these things  you have listed are great, and they help 
> keep things from being screwed up, but they're not the hard work that it 
> takes to really make a difference. So good, but so much more is needed.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Andrea
> 
>> On 28/05/16 11:26, Marc Vloemans wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> To build upon the positive results as mentioned in the thread below, I 
>> invite anyone to supply any suggestion that may support the LOC FOSS4G 2016 
>> in Bonn Germany, regarding diversity related policies during the actual 
>> Conference. Either directly to me or via this list.
>> 
>> As LOC we strive to be aware that public policies and personal experiences 
>> vary per continent, region, country and/or province. However, living in 
>> Western-Europe we sometimes are unaware how fortunate we are! That could 
>> hinder us in anticipating potential fears, uncertainties and doubts that 
>> visitors to Bonn may have.
>> 
>> For starters, please note the following from 
>> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Germany :
>> 
>> "Germany has become the first country in Europe to enact a law that allows 
>> German citizens to choose to neither identify as male or female on their 
>> birth certificate, which has been said to specifically benefit 
>> hermaphrodites and intersex persons."
>> 
>> Unfortunately same sex marriage is still 'under construction', but that does 
>> not reflect negatively on a number of laws protecting the rights of the 
>> LGBTI community (including registered partnership).
>> 
>> Best regards and hopefully we meet in Bonn,
>> Marc Vloemans
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Vriendelijke groet,
>> Marc Vloemans
>> 
>> Op 28 mei 2016 om 03:04 heeft Andrea Ross <andrea.r...@eclipse.org> het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> Dear Kristin, Everyone
>>> 
>>> The sex/gender split was similar for FOSS4G NA 2016 as FOSS4G NA 2015. In 
>>> the range of 25 to 30 percent women for both speakers and attendees. We 
>>> don't ask people their gender as part of submitting or registering, so this 
>>> is obviously a best effort from having met a number of folks, and 
>>> discretely Google-stalking them just a little.
>>> 
>>> We probably had a record high number of trans people participate, despite 
>>> North Carolina's HB2. Also because of HB2, many LGBT people reached out to 
>>> me before the conference to understand what was being done, and to help 
>>> decide whether to boycott or not. We are so grateful that so many did not 
>>> boycott, and came anyway. It was a moving experience for me to learn how 
>>> big the LGBT part of the community is and get a bit of the sense of how 
>>> important the work they're doing is.
>>> 
>>> Also, I want to call out the exemplary work of the Raleigh Convention 
>>> Center. They really went above and beyond to ensure our attendees were safe 
>>> and comfortable. So far as I know, there were zero instances of harassment 
>>> of LGBT people. Laurie Okun from the Convention Center in particular was a 
>>> superstar and so impressive & professional from our first contact when 
>>> trying to assess Raleigh, through the chaos that HB2 inflicted, and to the 
>>> post-conference follow-up. We are grateful.
>>> 
>>> So many good things to note. I also want to note that it is still a mostly 
>>> white conference. So the job is not done, and there's still much more 
>>> important work to be done.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Andrea
>>> 
>>>> On 2

[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2016 and diversity

2016-05-28 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear all,

To build upon the positive results as mentioned in the thread below, I invite 
anyone to supply any suggestion that may support the LOC FOSS4G 2016 in Bonn 
Germany, regarding diversity related policies during the actual Conference. 
Either directly to me or via this list.

As LOC we strive to be aware that public policies and personal experiences vary 
per continent, region, country and/or province. However, living in 
Western-Europe we sometimes are unaware how fortunate we are! That could hinder 
us in anticipating potential fears, uncertainties and doubts that visitors to 
Bonn may have.

For starters, please note the following from 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Germany :

"Germany has become the first country in Europe to enact a law that allows 
German citizens to choose to neither identify as male or female on their birth 
certificate, which has been said to specifically benefit hermaphrodites and 
intersex persons."

Unfortunately same sex marriage is still 'under construction', but that does 
not reflect negatively on a number of laws protecting the rights of the LGBTI 
community (including registered partnership).

Best regards and hopefully we meet in Bonn,
Marc Vloemans




Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans

> Op 28 mei 2016 om 03:04 heeft Andrea Ross <andrea.r...@eclipse.org> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Dear Kristin, Everyone
> 
> The sex/gender split was similar for FOSS4G NA 2016 as FOSS4G NA 2015. In the 
> range of 25 to 30 percent women for both speakers and attendees. We don't ask 
> people their gender as part of submitting or registering, so this is 
> obviously a best effort from having met a number of folks, and discretely 
> Google-stalking them just a little.
> 
> We probably had a record high number of trans people participate, despite 
> North Carolina's HB2. Also because of HB2, many LGBT people reached out to me 
> before the conference to understand what was being done, and to help decide 
> whether to boycott or not. We are so grateful that so many did not boycott, 
> and came anyway. It was a moving experience for me to learn how big the LGBT 
> part of the community is and get a bit of the sense of how important the work 
> they're doing is.
> 
> Also, I want to call out the exemplary work of the Raleigh Convention Center. 
> They really went above and beyond to ensure our   attendees were safe and 
> comfortable. So far as I know, there were zero instances of harassment of 
> LGBT people. Laurie Okun from the Convention Center in particular was a 
> superstar and so impressive & professional from our first contact when trying 
> to assess Raleigh, through the chaos that HB2 inflicted, and to the 
> post-conference follow-up. We are grateful.
> 
> So many good things to note. I also want to note that it is still a mostly 
> white conference. So the job is not done, and there's still much more 
> important work to be done.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Andrea
> 
>> On 27/05/16 17:28, Kristin Bott wrote:
>> Thanks for sharing the synopsis; I'm especially encouraged by (1) gender 
>> (identity) parity in the planning committee (2) strong presence of 
>> female-identifying folk at the conference and (3) continued financial 
>> support for attendees.
>> 
>> I'd be curious what the gender split was across attendees v. speakers -- 
>> possibly something worth tracking across years of conferences to get a sense 
>> of any shifts in attendee demographics.
>> 
>> cheers -
>> -k.bott
>> 
>> 
>>> On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 7:09 AM, Mark Lucas <mluca...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> I had the pleasure of serving as the OSGeo representative for the 2016 
>>> FOSS4G NA conference selection and planning.  I thought the team did an 
>>> excellent job in selecting, planning and running the conference.  The team 
>>> made the decision to not pursue a 2017 NA conference so as not to compete 
>>> for resources with the OSGeo international conference.  Our efforts will 
>>> focus on 2018 planning and selection for the next NA regional conference.
>>> 
>>> On a personal note I was initially concerned about how the relationship 
>>> with Location Tech and OSGeo would evolve.  Our teaming has resulted in yet 
>>> another successful conference that I believe plays to the strengths of both 
>>> organizations.  I was very pleased with the openness and collaboration that 
>>> I witnessed.
>>> — Mark
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The synopsis from Andrea Ross is included below:  
>>> 
>>>  FOSS4G
>>> NA 2016 Synopsis (please feel free to re-use
>>>

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from the Cradle

2016-05-16 Thread Marc Vloemans
Congrats Patrick!

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 16 mei 2016 om 02:48 heeft Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
> <patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> I love Open Source Geospatial software!
> It helps life to live on and on and on. . .
> So in the cradle-to-cradle spirit of a sustainable world,
> WorldWind has just ‘officially’ released Android version 0.2.0
>  
> https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/WorldWindAndroid/releases/
>  
> If you have an Android device, feel free to try it out!
> It’s kind of cool, great fun, and architecturally aligned with the Web 
> version.
> This makes moving from one WorldWind to the other a real breeze!
> And you can fork with it all you like!  ;-)
> -Patrick
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-15 Thread Marc Vloemans
Peter,

Again, I am still awaiting an answer that addresses the concerns raised in/by 
the community.

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 15 mei 2016 om 10:59 heeft Peter Baumann <p.baum...@jacobs-university.de> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Marc,
> 
> it puzzles me that all over the (derogative, right?) word "dictatorship" is 
> eagerly used while you now frown on "activist". 
> If we are minding language now we should _all_ be careful.
> 
> -Peter
> 
> 
> 
>> On 05/15/2016 03:22 AM, Marc Vloemans wrote:
>> Peter,
>> 
>> With regard to Rob's comments: I conclude that the various commentators have 
>> repeatedly pointed out that your line of reasoning is either based on a 
>> non-representative and even faulty sample of experiences/examples (eg Jeroen 
>> and Rob) or on the software's quality and popularity in certain circles (eg 
>> Rob) without clarifying that particular correlation to its project 
>> management.
>> 
>> In scientific terms that means your thesis/argument does not hold up. By the 
>> way, citing sources on quality still does not tell anything about above 
>> correlation, so spare yourself the effort. And comparing Rasdaman to other 
>> OSGeoprojects still makes it an odd-one-out, which no side-stepping the 
>> concerns raised can hide.
>> 
>> Effectively, we seem to be running in circles. But . we are not: all 
>> commentators have been quite inviting, but you still cannot convince them 
>> with true and relevant reasons. You have even resorted to calling at least 
>> me and (hopefully not too many) others along the way 'activists'. Wording 
>> that fits lesser democratic countries, organisations and political systems. 
>> If that gives an insight into the way you look at and treat 
>> stakeholders/community members with a different view from yours, then I fear 
>> you have shown our community your true 'colors'/face/intention
>> 
>> That is not running in circles but straight into the abyss, somewhere 
>> in-between OSGeo and Eclipse/LocationTech and other natural allies, in an 
>> irrational and suicidal attempt ... to achieve what exactly 
>> 
>> Vriendelijke groet,
>> Marc Vloemans
>> 
>> 
>> Op 14 mei 2016 om 15:00 heeft Rob Emanuele <rdemanu...@gmail.com> het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>>> Hi Peter,
>>> 
>>> This is the second time I've heard you defend your position by simply 
>>> saying the greatness of the project justifies whatever model you'd like for 
>>> project governance, and mention some independent study that claims your 
>>> software is "way faster" and "wins all benchmarks". These are bold, general 
>>> and unqualified claims that I would greatly like to understand in a more 
>>> detailed way. Please site your sources.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Rob
>>> 
>>>> On May 14, 2016 5:43 AM, "Peter Baumann" <p.baum...@jacobs-university.de> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> OpenHub knows 66 code contributors, and they do not even know (and list) 
>>>> all over time. Hence, cannot see anyone felt discouraged. Typical rasdaman 
>>>> contributors are interested in design by innovation and not design by 
>>>> committee, and that community spirit has made rasdaman a leading tool that 
>>>> wins all benchmarks over GeoServer, SPARK, etc.
>>>> -Peter
>>>> 
>>>> PS: suggesting a fork just because OSGeo follows a narrow principle that 
>>>> does not accommodate rasdaman makes me frown about the ideals behind :)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 05/12/2016 02:57 PM, Ian Turton wrote:
>>>>> I've been trying to stay out of the arguments about governance models 
>>>>> because I prefer to write code than worry about licences or governance. 
>>>>> But it may help if I share a some anecdotes (which is almost data) about 
>>>>> a couple of FOSS projects that came out of academia when I was in charge. 
>>>>> One of these you may well have heard of GeoTools, which forms the base 
>>>>> library of GeoServer, UDig, GeoMesa and others, the other you may not 
>>>>> know GeoVista Studio. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Both these libraries started out as academic projects that solved a 
>>>>> research problem, both were open sourced as a result of the university 
>>>>> claiming all the intellectual property of it's staff for ever (so why not 
>>>>> giv

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-14 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Hi Marco

I inferred that software quality was raised in defence of the benevolent
dictatorship governance model. Which IMHO (and obviously yours) bears no
relationship as quality derives from other factors. Apologies if my irony
has been confusing ;-)

Cheers, Marc

Op zondag 15 mei 2016 heeft Marco Afonso <mafonso...@gmail.com> het
volgende geschreven:

> Hi Marc,
>
> Software quality is not measured by votes, comunity, marketing, governance
> models, politics, economical interests, hypes or any other social science.
>
> Software quality can be measured using comparison tests from a scientific
> and independent methods.
>
> Just to say that some positions sound very biased and do not evaluate
> software using independent methods.
>
> How do you measure a car quality? By governance models? By comunities? By
> marketing or hype? By economic potencial? This all sounds very wrong.
>
> Cheers
> Em 15/05/2016 02:22, "Marc Vloemans" <marcvloema...@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','marcvloema...@gmail.com');>> escreveu:
>
>> Peter,
>>
>> With regard to Rob's comments: I conclude that the various commentators
>> have repeatedly pointed out that your line of reasoning is either based on
>> a non-representative and even faulty sample of experiences/examples (eg
>> Jeroen and Rob) or on the software's quality and popularity in certain
>> circles (eg Rob) without clarifying that particular correlation to its
>> project management.
>>
>> In scientific terms that means your thesis/argument does not hold up. By
>> the way, citing sources on quality still does not tell anything about above
>> correlation, so spare yourself the effort. And comparing Rasdaman to other
>> OSGeoprojects still makes it an odd-one-out, which no side-stepping the
>> concerns raised can hide.
>>
>> Effectively, we seem to be running in circles. But . we are not: all
>> commentators have been quite inviting, but you still cannot convince them
>> with true and relevant reasons. You have even resorted to calling at least
>> me and (hopefully not too many) others along the way 'activists'. Wording
>> that fits lesser democratic countries, organisations and political systems.
>> If that gives an insight into the way you look at and treat
>> stakeholders/community members with a different view from yours, then I
>> fear you have shown our community your true 'colors'/face/intention
>>
>> That is not running in circles but straight into the abyss, somewhere
>> in-between OSGeo and Eclipse/LocationTech and other natural allies, in an
>> irrational and suicidal attempt ... to achieve what exactly 
>>
>> Vriendelijke groet,
>> Marc Vloemans
>>
>>
>> Op 14 mei 2016 om 15:00 heeft Rob Emanuele <rdemanu...@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rdemanu...@gmail.com');>> het volgende
>> geschreven:
>>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> This is the second time I've heard you defend your position by simply
>> saying the greatness of the project justifies whatever model you'd like for
>> project governance, and mention some independent study that claims your
>> software is "way faster" and "wins all benchmarks". These are bold, general
>> and unqualified claims that I would greatly like to understand in a more
>> detailed way. Please site your sources.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rob
>> On May 14, 2016 5:43 AM, "Peter Baumann" <p.baum...@jacobs-university.de
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','p.baum...@jacobs-university.de');>> wrote:
>>
>>> OpenHub knows 66 code contributors, and they do not even know (and list)
>>> all over time. Hence, cannot see anyone felt discouraged. Typical rasdaman
>>> contributors are interested in design by innovation and not design by
>>> committee, and that community spirit has made rasdaman a leading tool that
>>> wins all benchmarks over GeoServer, SPARK, etc.
>>> -Peter
>>>
>>> PS: suggesting a fork just because OSGeo follows a narrow principle that
>>> does not accommodate rasdaman makes me frown about the ideals behind :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 05/12/2016 02:57 PM, Ian Turton wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been trying to stay out of the arguments about governance models
>>> because I prefer to write code than worry about licences or governance. But
>>> it may help if I share a some anecdotes (which is almost data) about a
>>> couple of FOSS projects that came out of academia when I was in charge. One
>>> of these you may well have heard of GeoTools, which

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Tales from a Benevolent Dictator

2016-05-14 Thread Marc Vloemans
Peter,

With regard to Rob's comments: I conclude that the various commentators have 
repeatedly pointed out that your line of reasoning is either based on a 
non-representative and even faulty sample of experiences/examples (eg Jeroen 
and Rob) or on the software's quality and popularity in certain circles (eg 
Rob) without clarifying that particular correlation to its project management.

In scientific terms that means your thesis/argument does not hold up. By the 
way, citing sources on quality still does not tell anything about above 
correlation, so spare yourself the effort. And comparing Rasdaman to other 
OSGeoprojects still makes it an odd-one-out, which no side-stepping the 
concerns raised can hide.

Effectively, we seem to be running in circles. But . we are not: all 
commentators have been quite inviting, but you still cannot convince them with 
true and relevant reasons. You have even resorted to calling at least me and 
(hopefully not too many) others along the way 'activists'. Wording that fits 
lesser democratic countries, organisations and political systems. If that gives 
an insight into the way you look at and treat stakeholders/community members 
with a different view from yours, then I fear you have shown our community your 
true 'colors'/face/intention

That is not running in circles but straight into the abyss, somewhere 
in-between OSGeo and Eclipse/LocationTech and other natural allies, in an 
irrational and suicidal attempt ... to achieve what exactly 

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 14 mei 2016 om 15:00 heeft Rob Emanuele <rdemanu...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> This is the second time I've heard you defend your position by simply saying 
> the greatness of the project justifies whatever model you'd like for project 
> governance, and mention some independent study that claims your software is 
> "way faster" and "wins all benchmarks". These are bold, general and 
> unqualified claims that I would greatly like to understand in a more detailed 
> way. Please site your sources.
> 
> Best,
> Rob
> 
>> On May 14, 2016 5:43 AM, "Peter Baumann" <p.baum...@jacobs-university.de> 
>> wrote:
>> OpenHub knows 66 code contributors, and they do not even know (and list) all 
>> over time. Hence, cannot see anyone felt discouraged. Typical rasdaman 
>> contributors are interested in design by innovation and not design by 
>> committee, and that community spirit has made rasdaman a leading tool that 
>> wins all benchmarks over GeoServer, SPARK, etc.
>> -Peter
>> 
>> PS: suggesting a fork just because OSGeo follows a narrow principle that 
>> does not accommodate rasdaman makes me frown about the ideals behind :)
>> 
>> 
>>> On 05/12/2016 02:57 PM, Ian Turton wrote:
>>> I've been trying to stay out of the arguments about governance models 
>>> because I prefer to write code than worry about licences or governance. But 
>>> it may help if I share a some anecdotes (which is almost data) about a 
>>> couple of FOSS projects that came out of academia when I was in charge. One 
>>> of these you may well have heard of GeoTools, which forms the base library 
>>> of GeoServer, UDig, GeoMesa and others, the other you may not know GeoVista 
>>> Studio. 
>>> 
>>> Both these libraries started out as academic projects that solved a 
>>> research problem, both were open sourced as a result of the university 
>>> claiming all the intellectual property of it's staff for ever (so why not 
>>> give it away?) in both cases I (and James Macgil) were benevolent dictators 
>>> when the projects launched, it was a simple governance model that left us 
>>> able to get on with coding and researching and meant that things went the 
>>> way we wanted. GeoTools started to get some users and people started asking 
>>> for bug fixes and new features etc while James & I had actual jobs to do 
>>> and wanted to spend time with our families and go on holiday etc. So we got 
>>> some more people involved such as TOPP and Refractions and we sort of 
>>> lucked into a PSC and GeoTools went from strength to strength and now has a 
>>> PSC that spans the globe (which makes meeting times hard to find but is 
>>> otherwise awesome). In fact for a while GeoTools and GeoServer managed (or 
>>> thrived) with no input from me or James at all. However GeoVISTA studio, 
>>> only went open source grudgingly (the PI's didn't want to give up control 
>>> really) and never really gained more than a few users because we didn't 
>>> allow other people to influence the direction of developmen

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G

2016-05-13 Thread Marc Vloemans
!

Additionally, for independent professionals a similar calculation method could 
apply, but I would have to think more on that.

My two non-reimbursable well-spent cents.

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 13 mei 2016 om 15:13 heeft Steven Feldman <shfeld...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> 1. Can we unbundle some elements of the conference to help those on low 
> income? Gala event, catering, anything else?
> 2. Should we encourage lower cost venue options from host cities bidding for 
> 2018 etc
> 3. Should we focus more on costs of travel and accommodation when selecting 
> host cities?
> 4. Can we come up with an OSGeo policy on subsidising people who want to 
> attend? How would we select? A full subsidy for someone attending FOSS4G 
> including travel, accommodation, delegate fees, workshops, and living 
> expenses could easily run between €1500 and €2500 depending on the location 
> and an individual’s travel costs. That means finding between €60k and €100k 
> to fund 5% of the attendees at a FOSS4G. Is that achievable?
> 5. Is it better to leave the successful global event as it is, up till now we 
> have had strong attendances each year? We could instead encourage FOSS4G 
> regional events (in regions that are not hosting the global event) that were 
> designed and targeted to be a smaller scale and more affordable?
> 6. Are we looking at the wrong side of this by focussing on the cost of 
> attending an event? 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Incubator] Should OSGeo accept "benevolent dictator" projects into OSGeo?

2016-05-09 Thread Marc Vloemans
Peter

Voting is not the issue for success, acceptance and traction are.

And as my suggestions seem to upset you, then at least read Jeroen Ticheler's 
message.he's been there, done it and boasts several T-shirts by now.

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 9 mei 2016 om 09:30 heeft Peter Baumann <p.baum...@jacobs-university.de> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Marc-
> 
> bright minds do not need votes to get heard here, there's no obstacle.
> 
> Servus,
> Peter
> 
> 
>> On 05/08/2016 04:56 PM, Marc Vloemans wrote:
>> Peter,
>> 
>> I did certainly not realise there was such a cultural gap between academia 
>> and open source.
>> 
>> Also, I gather that bazar style negotiation is not to your liking not 
>> efficient. You perhaps rather have a single representative 
>> speaking/negotiating on behalf of the OSGeo Foundation? Unfortunately, 
>> nobody has that remit within OSGeo. So you need to be more convincing. 
>> Presently, a take-it-or-leave-it attitude has not helped your cause.
>> 
>> In order to grow 'your' project you are at the end of the day dependent on 
>> additional skills and genius. Not for money, but for free (as in beer). Just 
>> 'open sourcing' your project under the wings of OSGeo to do so requires some 
>> careful consideration of your audience and joint planning in stead of blunt 
>> negotiation. Laying down the law and emphasising how you want things will 
>> IMHO not gain you followers, developers or others to do the hard Dev work, 
>> the (easier, but still volunteer work) management, promotion etc.
>> 
>> So I invite you to be more appealing to all the bright minds in our 
>> community. Because, as far as this discussion goes I see no crowd jumping up 
>> and say 'I want'
>> 
>> To give you another pointer; perhaps a route to a mutually beneficial 
>> solution could be found in the area of license-policy(please, give it a 
>> thought. It would take a new look at things that could work for all).
>> 
>> And in case no consensus is arrived at, then consider Cameron and I and 
>> anyone joining in (pro/neutral/contra) as activists for that matter.
>> Personally, I sometimes tear my hairs out of impatience, when I see that 
>> building consensus takes so long. But during various recent online 
>> discussions I learned a lot as well. From people I consider bright and 
>> skilful even though I do not agree with them. And they give me room to work 
>> on what I think is best, even though they do not agree with a lot I am 
>> saying and doing. That's both courageous of them and humbling for me. So ... 
>> the top-down alternative is flat-out horrifying to me.
>> 
>> Vriendelijke groet,
>> Marc Vloemans
>> 
>> 
>>> Op 8 mei 2016 om 14:48 heeft Peter Baumann <p.baum...@jacobs-university.de> 
>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Marc-
>>> 
>>> if we just discuss on meta level we bypass the real facts. It is not about
>>> bazaar style negotiation - both sides have laid their cards open on the 
>>> table,
>>> and now OSGeo needs to see what to do with it.
>>> Also, I note in passing that science is not really understood, discussion 
>>> is all
>>> about money. Maybe look at my mail again, it is about skills and genius in 
>>> fact.
>>> (No pun intended!)
>>> 
>>> Tot ziens,
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> PS: Just to remind, this code of conduct discussion some time back was not
>>> guided by a general negotiation, and not even by a vote of the OSGeo 
>>> membership
>>> at large (just some activists).
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 05/07/2016 08:52 AM, Marc Vloemans wrote:
>>>> @Peter
>>>> From the discussion I take away the impression that Cameron et al have 
>>>> tried to keep the conversation going and not close any doors. You have 
>>>> called that word smithing, which raises a proverbial eyebrow. 
>>>> The fact that you have just turned it into a take it or leave it deal, is 
>>>> not conducive to a potential win-win.
>>>> I appreciate your frankness, however.
>>>> The role of PI is clear; the one who holds the purse strings has the 
>>>> power. Something most developers are familiar with.
>>>> 
>>>> As a volunteer I am happy to give time and brain cells to our mission. 
>>>> Attracting interest, creating adoption, acquire funds for our projects 
>>>> support (shout out to Jody and Arnulf/LOCBonn) for your project that has

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Incubator] Should OSGeo accept "benevolent dictator" projects into OSGeo?

2016-05-08 Thread Marc Vloemans
Peter,

I did certainly not realise there was such a cultural gap between academia and 
open source.

Also, I gather that bazar style negotiation is not to your liking not 
efficient. You perhaps rather have a single representative speaking/negotiating 
on behalf of the OSGeo Foundation? Unfortunately, nobody has that remit within 
OSGeo. So you need to be more convincing. Presently, a take-it-or-leave-it 
attitude has not helped your cause.

In order to grow 'your' project you are at the end of the day dependent on 
additional skills and genius. Not for money, but for free (as in beer). Just 
'open sourcing' your project under the wings of OSGeo to do so requires some 
careful consideration of your audience and joint planning in stead of blunt 
negotiation. Laying down the law and emphasising how you want things will IMHO 
not gain you followers, developers or others to do the hard Dev work, the 
(easier, but still volunteer work) management, promotion etc.

So I invite you to be more appealing to all the bright minds in our community. 
Because, as far as this discussion goes I see no crowd jumping up and say 'I 
want'

To give you another pointer; perhaps a route to a mutually beneficial solution 
could be found in the area of license-policy(please, give it a thought. It 
would take a new look at things that could work for all).

And in case no consensus is arrived at, then consider Cameron and I and anyone 
joining in (pro/neutral/contra) as activists for that matter.
Personally, I sometimes tear my hairs out of impatience, when I see that 
building consensus takes so long. But during various recent online discussions 
I learned a lot as well. From people I consider bright and skilful even though 
I do not agree with them. And they give me room to work on what I think is 
best, even though they do not agree with a lot I am saying and doing. That's 
both courageous of them and humbling for me. So ... the top-down alternative is 
flat-out horrifying to me.

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 8 mei 2016 om 14:48 heeft Peter Baumann <p.baum...@jacobs-university.de> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Marc-
> 
> if we just discuss on meta level we bypass the real facts. It is not about
> bazaar style negotiation - both sides have laid their cards open on the table,
> and now OSGeo needs to see what to do with it.
> Also, I note in passing that science is not really understood, discussion is 
> all
> about money. Maybe look at my mail again, it is about skills and genius in 
> fact.
> (No pun intended!)
> 
> Tot ziens,
> Peter
> 
> PS: Just to remind, this code of conduct discussion some time back was not
> guided by a general negotiation, and not even by a vote of the OSGeo 
> membership
> at large (just some activists).
> 
> 
>> On 05/07/2016 08:52 AM, Marc Vloemans wrote:
>> @Peter
>> From the discussion I take away the impression that Cameron et al have tried 
>> to keep the conversation going and not close any doors. You have called that 
>> word smithing, which raises a proverbial eyebrow. 
>> The fact that you have just turned it into a take it or leave it deal, is 
>> not conducive to a potential win-win.
>> I appreciate your frankness, however.
>> The role of PI is clear; the one who holds the purse strings has the power. 
>> Something most developers are familiar with.
>> 
>> As a volunteer I am happy to give time and brain cells to our mission. 
>> Attracting interest, creating adoption, acquire funds for our projects 
>> support (shout out to Jody and Arnulf/LOCBonn) for your project that has 
>> this form of dependency on a single person is not "my-itch". Scratching it 
>> would make ultimately you(r ambitions) better-off, not the inclusive 
>> participative culture of the community at large.
>> 
>> @Patrick
>> No disagreement with the daunting task this world faces (I do not want to 
>> leave a mess for my children, nor ruin the globe, which we IMHO only borrow).
>> But if we justify the means by the end(picture) it gets tricky. To be 
>> invited by a benevolent dictator to be part of the solution seems less of an 
>> appealing proposition. I propose we all go about it in more incremental 
>> steps.
>> Academia and OSGeo go well together. Geo4All for example. But here I see two 
>> cultures clash. And one has held a door open.
>> 
>> 
>> Vriendelijke groet,
>> Marc Vloemans
>> 
>> 
>>> Op 6 mei 2016 om 23:57 heeft Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
>>> <patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> het volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> Dear OSGeo Community,
>>> 
>>> This seems a wonderful opportunity for OSGEO to do a bit of growing, and 
>>> stretch those old limbs in a 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo-EU toward a new OSGeo scenario?

2016-05-08 Thread Marc Vloemans
Thanks Till
For adding out the bottom line; even in a globalised world most 
European entities preferably deal with European entities. Especially if it 
concerns public policy and commercial matters. So let locals scratch local 
itches (imagine a European knocking on the door of the White House ;-)
And let's get downto business (sorry, for the pun).

@All
By the way, when organisations grow and mature, they usually differentiate 
their activities and adapt organisational structure to accommodate the 
wider/growing  variety of members/stakeholders/customers. This way no one feels 
 left out and there is always something for someone to benefit from. For OSGeo 
this is the next step/phase in its evolution.
Whether, it will lead to uncontrollable fragmentation, chaos and unwanted split 
offs is principally a managerial problem. Something for Board, officers, 
Chartermembers etc to deal with in a sensible, professional and rational manner.

Soquestion.who feel(s) this particular itch the most


Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 8 mei 2016 om 08:53 heeft till.ad...@fossgis.de het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> after editing on an email for some days now, I noticed after all that most of 
> the words, I'd like to contribute to this duscussion have already been 
> written down by Marc.
> 
> So I agree with Marc on most of his points but like to put the focus more on 
> the business side of view: Please keep in mind, that in order to get at leat 
> a tiny bit of influence in Brussels and EU-related organisations requires a 
> European Organisation. No matter that this is related to a global, 
> US-resident organisation.
> 
> Regards, Till
> 
> 
> Am 2016-05-03 23:35, schrieb Marc VLOEMANS:
>> Dear Maxi et al
>> 
>> Great to continue another part of our strategy-in-the-making! My
>> reasons why I feel we need a regional EU chapter and its consequences
>> below.
>> 
>> As with many international organisations I am a supporter of the
>> strategy-adagio ; plan global, act local.
>> 
>> This enables local flavours to an overall
>> vision-mission-strategy-story. (Even Coca Cola encourages local
>> initiatives under a global brand and growth strategy.) Which addresses
>> the fact that, for example the GeoServer project, has many
>> region/country specific implementations and add-ons. Just think of the
>> specific European INSPIRE directive, with special plugins for
>> metadata etc.
>> 
>> Furthermore, outreach and lobby (see the Concept Marketing discussion
>> in the Wiki) have to deal with a host of different cultures and
>> political entities in Europe. Unlike a relatively homogenous US
>> marketplace. Most notably we have a influential/powerful centralised
>> EU government in Brussels as a pan-national stakeholder.
>> 
>> Now, local chapters could be invited to localise our overall strategic
>> roadmap (I happily take my analogy from software). But they are either
>> not set up or not equipped to deal with this matter (compare our
>> similar efforts on .org level). And they are certainly not able to
>> influence European/Brussels policy from their relative distance.
>> 
>> If a European OSGeo.eu can be the collaborative entity to work towards
>> further open spatial dissemination, on this side of the
>> Atlantic, then I am all for this. It could also facilitate FOSS4GEU
>> in stead of having a local chapter carry the weight.  It is a
>> European itch, so lets scratch it ourselves.
>> And if Africa and Asia and Middle-East have
>> other dissemination needs than power to them.
>> 
>> From an OSGeo-organisational point of view, we will certainly have to
>> look into the overall governance. In my opinion we are in a phase in
>> which we step up our game, professionalise, re-group and re-organise
>> where required. However, splitting would be disastrous. 
>> 
>> A simple solution is that board representation is based on certain
>> roles and representatives:
>> Chair, Secretary and Treasurer: General roles, therefor voted by all
>> chapter members
>> For marketing, sponsoring (single/grouped) etc; also individuals
>> voted by all
>> Representative EU: voted by EU chapter members
>> Representative Asia: voted by Asian chapter 
>> These last two roles could be combined with other specific roles if
>> needed.
>> 
>> Regional Chapters to be voted on by the local chapters in the area.
>> Or such like.
>> Yes, a little more of a Christmas tree, but that can be solved. It
>> reflects a need for required change.
>> 
>> The overall issue is that we grow in depth, width and length and
>> therefo

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Incubator] Should OSGeo accept "benevolent dictator" projects into OSGeo?

2016-05-07 Thread Marc Vloemans
@Peter
From the discussion I take away the impression that Cameron et al have tried to 
keep the conversation going and not close any doors. You have called that word 
smithing, which raises a proverbial eyebrow. 
The fact that you have just turned it into a take it or leave it deal, is not 
conducive to a potential win-win.
I appreciate your frankness, however.
The role of PI is clear; the one who holds the purse strings has the power. 
Something most developers are familiar with.

As a volunteer I am happy to give time and brain cells to our mission. 
Attracting interest, creating adoption, acquire funds for our projects support 
(shout out to Jody and Arnulf/LOCBonn) for your project that has this form of 
dependency on a single person is not "my-itch". Scratching it would make 
ultimately you(r ambitions) better-off, not the inclusive participative culture 
of the community at large.

@Patrick
No disagreement with the daunting task this world faces (I do not want to leave 
a mess for my children, nor ruin the globe, which we IMHO only borrow).
But if we justify the means by the end(picture) it gets tricky. To be invited 
by a benevolent dictator to be part of the solution seems less of an appealing 
proposition. I propose we all go about it in more incremental steps.
Academia and OSGeo go well together. Geo4All for example. But here I see two 
cultures clash. And one has held a door open.


Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 6 mei 2016 om 23:57 heeft Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) <patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Dear OSGeo Community,
> 
> This seems a wonderful opportunity for OSGEO to do a bit of growing, and 
> stretch those old limbs in a limber-up kind of way. Though they be not as old 
> as some of us OS geospatial projects!
> 
> We are accelerating into a new world, one where climate chaos is a daily 
> experience. We are already witness to the resultant mass migrations and 
> accompanying specie extinctions, estimated at 200 per day and rising. 
> 
> At what point do we embrace our collective need to work together, encouraging 
> creativity and adjusting adaptability for a world that celebrates our finite 
> resources. This will take a ^cornucopia^ of open source solutions, regardless 
> of the path used to grow them.
> 
> Might OSGEO be more adept at encouraging and supporting open source 
> geospatial solutions, however they exist? 
> 
> A smart quote goes here, but I am at a loss for which one. Maybe something 
> from the ‘Three Musketeers’ or better yet, a woman, such as Eleanor Roosevelt 
> “The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.” To 
> which I say, without a beautiful future, we shall have none. Open OSGeo Open. 
> . .
> 
> Whether for naïveté or ignorance, much I do not understand. Humble apologies 
> for that. Regardless, the future awaits our better nature or she’s not there 
> at all. 
> 
> -Patrick
> 
> From: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Peter 
> Baumann
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 3:25 AM
> To: Cameron Shorter; Even Rouault; incuba...@lists.osgeo.org
> Cc: OSGeo Discussions
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Incubator] Should OSGeo accept "benevolent 
> dictator" projects into OSGeo?
> 
> Hi Cameron,
> 
> I tried very much to make the situation transparent. Maybe the notion of 
> Principal Investigator helps here (cf Wikipedia - although biased towards 
> medical science):
> 
> A principal investigator (PI) is the holder of an independent grant 
> administered by a university and the lead researcher for the grant project, 
> usually in the sciences, such as a laboratory study or a clinical trial. The 
> phrase is also often used as a synonym for "head of the laboratory" or 
> "research group leader." While the expression is common in the sciences, it 
> is used widely for the person or persons who make final decisions and 
> supervise funding and expenditures on a given research project.
> 
> I am the PI of rasdaman, and that will not change, also not indirectly 
> through wordsmithing as proposed.
> 
> OSGeo is entering new domains with rasdaman, which is: scientific research 
> projects. Like some other communities, these have existed long before OSGeo, 
> and have their own ethics, procedures, and rules. It is unlikely that science 
> will change and give up freedom of research based on its principles well 
> accepted by the whole community. If OSGeo intends to change these in general 
> then maybe starting with rasdaman as an isolated item in a vast universe is 
> not the optimal point.
> 
> OSGeo may find out that it’s very special (although obviously not 
> unambiguously codified) views constrain it to particular ecosystems. But I am 
> 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Requesting services for librttopo

2016-05-03 Thread Marc Vloemans
Welcome Sandro et al,

and thanks you guys for joining !

If no one objects and no formal  hurdles need still to be taken, I will publish 
your name and the project in the overall list in Wiki.(OK with board Jody?)

@Sandro: which site do you want me to link to?

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 3 mei 2016 om 08:32 heeft Sandro Santilli <s...@keybit.net> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
>> On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 12:00:04PM -0400, Jody Garnett wrote:
>> I would ask if the project would consider joining OSGeo as a community
>> project <https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Community_Projects>? This
>> requirement is minimal, we want some assurance that your project is both
>> open source and open to collaboration.
> 
> On behalf of the PSC, I confirm we are ok with joining OSGeo as a
> community project. Is there any step we need to take to complete
> the move ?
> 
> --strk;
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Ouch ! : Re: OSGeo strategy and marketing : Call for ideas on osgeo activities

2016-04-28 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Gents,

I bow out of this discussion, with still a semblance of grace.

Marc

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2016-04-28 15:21 GMT+02:00 Massimiliano Cannata <
massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch>:

> Cameron and all,
> Personally (and not speaking in the name of he board) i will be super
> happy and in super favor of having a marketing plan to be probably one part
> of theOSGeo  strategy.
>
> I just don't see that we should restart from scratch what has been done so
> far for this year.
>
> in my opinion, we should go on and make treasure of results (positive or
> negative) and improve the process for the future.
>
> Maxi
>
>
>
>
> Il 28/Apr/2016 14:31, "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> ha
> scritto:
>
>> Hi Maxi, board,
>>
>> It has been good of you to take the lead in putting together an OSGeo
>> Priorities survey.
>> Pushing an idea forward such as has been done has created a talking
>> point, leading to marketing conversations, although possibly not in the
>> direction originally planned, but constructive non-the-less.
>>
>> The positives I see from the board identification of a need (for
>> marketing), is that some really great marketing ideas are starting to flow
>> onto our email lists, from the likes of Marc and others. We have some
>> really experienced business development, marketing, and strategy people
>> within the OSGeo community. You might want to check out some of the OSGeo
>> Advocate profiles at https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Advocate
>>
>> The conversations are hopefully leading to a revitalization of the OSGeo
>> Marketing committee, which should in turn help free up the board to tackle
>> other initiatives. I suspect that you'd agree that to be able to tap into
>> this marketing expertise will be of value to the board?
>>
>> With regards to the specific conversation about delineating between
>> marketing and strategy, I've regularly seen marketing consultants being
>> included in company strategy planning sessions, and I see there being many
>> synergies between the two.
>>
>> A few encouraging words from the board, offering to support personal
>> initiatives to drive OSGeo marketing forward would likely be valuable at
>> this point. (I've had a couple of private emails questioning whether
>> marketing initiatives would be welcomed by the board.)
>>
>> Warm regards, Cameron
>>
>> On 28/04/2016 9:23 pm, Marc Vloemans wrote:
>>
>> Ouch...once more picking up the towel from the ringI have to disagree
>> with the spin/suggestiveness/angle as below.it throws the whole
>> discussion back to its early beginnings ..it disregards what
>> individuals have contributed until now from their experience and insights
>> ..
>>  I realise that anything I write/offer further can be construed as too
>> critical, too negative, too this, that and other. However, we are IMHO
>> assembled at a too critical junction for OSGeo.
>>
>> I flatly refuse to go down a wrong path, only execute isolated subjective
>> tasks on behalf of whoever tells me to do so, while seeing the proverbial
>> ice-berg (irrelevance) on the radar (and the band keeps playing). That is
>> not in the spirit of OS communities. I am quite willing to work (and
>> starting to do so) on pressing present issues like: can we salvage our
>> presence at FOSS4GNA next week (no banners, CD's etc to be found), what
>> about actual funding requests But it would be nice if offers of help,
>> actual advice, contributions  etc are not so easily dismissed, disregarded
>> or kept for later usage.
>>
>> Actual terminology as "strategy is not a matter of marketing",  "I
>> suggest you to work..." , comparing us to governments and reminding  me
>> that 'the board has been elected', make me wonder if our community strategy
>> is still to be a bottom-up process and what type of signal this gives to
>> the members/volunteers. And if 'Father knows best what's good for me' 
>> Well, that only works if one holds power over me or if there is a
>> successful track record to show for. Right now it feels plain wrong to me.
>>
>> My contribution (and that of other commentators for who I have
>> professional respect for their particular expertise) should be seen as a
>> compliment and addition to what the Board has started.
>> If the questionnaire, Boards' strategic objectives and member'
>>

[OSGeo-Discuss] Ouch ! : Re: OSGeo strategy and marketing : Call for ideas on osgeo activities

2016-04-28 Thread Marc Vloemans
Ouch...once more picking up the towel from the ringI have to disagree with 
the spin/suggestiveness/angle as below.it throws the whole discussion back 
to its early beginnings ..it disregards what individuals have contributed 
until now from their experience and insights ..
 I realise that anything I write/offer further can be construed as too 
critical, too negative, too this, that and other. However, we are IMHO 
assembled at a too critical junction for OSGeo.

I flatly refuse to go down a wrong path, only execute isolated subjective tasks 
on behalf of whoever tells me to do so, while seeing the proverbial ice-berg 
(irrelevance) on the radar (and the band keeps playing). That is not in the 
spirit of OS communities. I am quite willing to work (and starting to do so) on 
pressing present issues like: can we salvage our presence at FOSS4GNA next week 
(no banners, CD's etc to be found), what about actual funding requests But 
it would be nice if offers of help, actual advice, contributions  etc are not 
so easily dismissed, disregarded or kept for later usage.

Actual terminology as "strategy is not a matter of marketing",  "I suggest you 
to work..." , comparing us to governments and reminding  me that 'the board has 
been elected', make me wonder if our community strategy is still to be a 
bottom-up process and what type of signal this gives to the members/volunteers. 
And if 'Father knows best what's good for me'  Well, that only works if one 
holds power over me or if there is a successful track record to show for. Right 
now it feels plain wrong to me.

My contribution (and that of other commentators for who I have professional 
respect for their particular expertise) should be seen as a compliment and 
addition to what the Board has started.
If the questionnaire, Boards' strategic objectives and member' 
participation/response all leave something to be desiredthen that is 
totally OK with meas long as all involved learn from it, take additional 
expertise on board, adapt, redesign and - anew - go for it.

By the way;
If the Board requires more mandate than they feel they have right now, in order 
to strategise properly (and not wait till 2017, while already our 
Foss4gNA-presentation is in jeopardy and the all-important Bonn-OSGeo 
strategy-presentation  coming up), then they have my backing!



Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 28 apr. 2016 om 08:09 heeft Massimiliano Cannata 
> <massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> > Dears
> > I personally don't believe that strategy is a matter of marketing.
> >
> > It is a matter of governance: identify what is useful and think of how 
> > implement it. All over the word governments do this.
> >
> > Marketing is about how sell / market your product to clients which is only 
> > one part of the strategy.
> >
> > That's why this elected board decided to take action. The process is 
> > certainly far from being optimal and the contribution of all the members of 
> > this community is desired. But i want to underline that this is at least a 
> > great starting point you should credit this board.
> >
> > The  call for ideas of action is beacause the board would like the 
> > understand what the community think is the more important and appropriate 
> > way of operate and spend money towards the selected objectives.
> >
> > Good or not, one page or five, perfectible or trashable this is a starting 
> > point.
> >
> > Questions could have been easier and we could have been more answers but we 
> > wanted well tought and feasible and verifiable actions, not just "Let's go 
> > to the moon" ideas.
> >
> > The next step of the board is the evaluate and prioritize answers and try 
> > to make them happen in 2016.
> >
> > I suggest you to work for the 2017 strategy supporting the board with 
> > market analysis and ideas so that wiser decision can be taken.
> >
> > Ant the end GIS is all about information to support decision making :-)
> >
> > Maxi
> >
> > Il 27/Apr/2016 16:20, "Marc Vloemans" <marcvloema...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >>
> >> Steven, Gert Jan et al
> >>
> >> Please feel free to add, comment, fill in blanks and disagree with my 
> >> discussion piece in wiki Marketing Committee Discussion tab!
> >>
> >> My intention was to gather insights etc from others, while still framing 
> >> the discussions on our strategy, stakeholders,  questionnaire etc.
> >> As well as finding common semantics (eg Eco-system vs community, marketing 
> >> vs promotion).
> >>
> >> This way we can provide those less familiar with

[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo strategy and marketing : Call for ideas on osgeo activities

2016-04-27 Thread Marc Vloemans
Steven, Gert Jan et al

Please feel free to add, comment, fill in blanks and disagree with my 
discussion piece in wiki Marketing Committee Discussion tab!

My intention was to gather insights etc from others, while still framing the 
discussions on our strategy, stakeholders,  questionnaire etc.
As well as finding common semantics (eg Eco-system vs community, marketing vs 
promotion).

This way we can provide those less familiar with strategy-making processes and 
marketing decisions/activities with some blue print and back ground. (Like more 
tech-savvy colleagues explained software architecture to me in the past ;-)

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 27 apr. 2016 om 13:20 heeft Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl 
> <gert-...@osgeo.nl> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Steven, Maxi
> 
> @Steven: Thanks for writing down for what is also my personal experience.
> Even though I followed the process of setting up these strategic outcomes 
> from a rather nearby position, 
> it's hard to feel engaged with the questionnaire.
> 
> Let's try to analyse:
> The Board has as first steps (re-)written down a Vision, a Mission and Core 
> Values.
> The next two steps ("identification of ecosystems" and "identification of 4 
> strategic objectives" have also been done by the Board solely). 
> 
> So now, in the 4th step, the Charter Members are asked for the first time for 
> their input. 
> But in fact you have already lost me in defining the ecosystem: what's the 
> role of the 8 identified parties in this ecosystem? And how come OSGeo.org 
> itself not part of the ecosystem? 
> 
> And a few suggestions:
> 1. I think the Google Form would be easier to understand if it contained one 
> page for every of the 4 Strategic Objectives (so 5 pages in total). 
> 2. The last question ("ecosystems involved") has two components: the "who is 
> the main beneficiary", but also "who is the main actor". 
> 
> 
> 
> regards, 
> 
> Gert-Jan
> 
> 
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: Discuss [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Namens Steven Feldman
> Verzonden: dinsdag 26 april 2016 21:35
> Aan: Marc Vloemans
> CC: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> Onderwerp: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for ideas on osgeo activities
> 
> I just tried to complete the questionnaire. I found it very difficult to 
> understand. It seemed to be pushing me down a line of commenting on a web 
> site redesign
> 
> It didn't give me enough context of why the strategic outcomes were strategic 
> and it didn't allow me to suggest any alternatives. The mandatory questions 
> force a choice from a predetermined list with no option to suggest 'other' or 
> 'none of the above'
> 
> If we want to poll the Charter members, I think we need to provide more 
> explanation and perhaps consider a two stage process where the first stage is 
> more open ended and then at a late stage we ask for responses to specific 
> questions arising from the first stage
> 
> Steven
> 
>> On 26 Apr 2016, at 17:00, Marc Vloemans <marcvloema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Alternatively
>> 
>> What is going to happen to the outcome?
>> Some extra communication on that may enlist more entries.
>> 
>> 
>> Vriendelijke groet,
>> Marc Vloemans
>> 
>> 
>>> Op 26 apr. 2016 om 00:41 heeft Dirk Frigne <dirk.fri...@geosparc.com> het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>> We can try to discuss the first results on BOF on FOSS4G-NA, GWF and 
>>> other activities going on... Discussing Face2f can help in getting feedback.
>>> 
>>> I will put this on the agenda during the workshop about OSGeo Europe 
>>> on the GWF OSGeo day on May 24, 2016 in Rotterdam.
>>> 
>>> just my 2c
>>> 
>>> Dirk
>>> 
>>>> On 26-04-16 00:07, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
>>>> we didn't set any end-date for the survey. 
>>>> Nevertheless few answers have today been received, any action to 
>>>> better involve members is more then welcome.
>>>> 
>>>> Maxi
>>>> 
>>>> 2016-04-25 23:33 GMT+02:00 Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com>>:
>>>> 
>>>>  What is the timeframe here Maxi? You may also consider writing an
>>>>  news post, or as project leads to pass this opportunity on to the
>>>>  developer lists.
>>>> 
>>>>  --
>>>>  Jody Garnett
>>>> 
>>>>  On 24 April 2016 at 03:12, Massimiliano Cannata
>>>>  <massimilia

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WorldWind GeoForAll @ OSGeo+ICA+ISPRS+OGRS

2016-04-26 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dirk, Patrick,

On that note Build a community and  build a commercial Eco-system!

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 26 apr. 2016 om 00:26 heeft Dirk Frigne <dirk.fri...@geosparc.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Patrick,
> 
> Great news!
> I think it should be an interesting exercise to investigate during a
> code sprint or OSGeo event how different OSGeo projects can grow closer
> to each other, without loosing the diversity between all the different
> initiatives we host.
> 
> Having the support of these 'big' organisations supporting open source
> software, and working together with small and medium enterprises and
> developers seems an interesting new way of co-creation we should try to
> explore.
> 
> Dirk.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23-04-16 20:25, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) wrote:
>> The world leading European Aerospace and Defence company, 
>> www.ThalesGroup.com, has now joined with NASA and ESA to advance 
>> WebWorldWind.  So the NASA-ESA team has another full-time world-class coder 
>> advancing this geospatial 'piazza,' well serving the NASA motto "for the 
>> benefit of all."
>> 
>> We are very proud to be an integral part of gvSIG as well as OSGeo Live and 
>> also an OSGeo/GSoC project with one of Maria's great graduate students, 
>> Gabriele Prestifilippo (gabry501).
>> https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/6273632556810240/#5900459751505920
>> 
>> AND! Look for some spectacular results this year for the Europa Challenge in 
>> the area of OpenCitySmart. Teams are in progress! Feel free to join anytime.
>> http://eurochallenge.como.polimi.it/
>> 
>> The WorldWind path is ^all^ open source, no 'Pro' version crossing ahead.
>> https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/
>> 
>> -Patrick
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 12:04 PM
>> To: OSGeo Discussions
>> Subject: WorldWind GeoForAll @ OSGeo+ICA+ISPRS+OGRS
>> 
>> Dear OSGeo, ICA, ISPRS Communities, and the GeoForAll mission,
>> 
>> Some very exciting news will soon be shared with YOU! The good news is that 
>> GeoForAll progress is being made on multiple fronts, in ways that serve the 
>> core principles of the brilliant world-beacons provided by OSGeo, ICA, ISPRS 
>> and OGRS. Here is a brief mention for what you will learn more of soon.
>> 
>> 1. The European Space Agency (ESA) has standardized on NASA WebWorldWind. 
>> Expect significant advances to this open source geobrowser, along with 
>> facilitated access to the Copernicus programme Sentinel data, for research 
>> and the needs of a greater European government community. Thank you ESA and 
>> Pier Giorgio Marchetti!
>> 
>> 2. Extraordinary progress is being made on what was originally called the 
>> Global Earthquake Forecast System and is now referred to as Earthquake 
>> Signal Precursors (ESP). This will prove invaluable to the world. The 
>> monitoring systems (hardware) and entire communication infrastructure 
>> (software), are all designed and built as open source. Thank you 
>> TrilliumLearning and Ron Fortunato!
>> 
>> 3. The city of Trento will be hosting the 'climax' to the 2016 Europa 
>> Challenge. This will include an all-expense paid invitation (lodging and 
>> meals, excluding travel) to the top three teams for a final three days of 
>> intense collaboration and all-out competition for the very best 
>> ^OpenCitySmart^ solution! Thank you Trento and Milena Bigatto! 
>> 
>> 4. Look for a special Europa Challenge presence at the OGRS symposium in 
>> Perugia.
>> 
>> 5. And more pleasant surprises!  ;-)
>> 
>> -Patrick
>> 'If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately' -Benjamin 
>> Franklin circa 1776
>> 
>> patrick.ho...@nasa.gov
>> World Wind Project Manager
>> (650) 604-5656 (office)
>> (650) 269-2788 (cell)
>> http://eurochallenge.como.polimi.it/ 
>> http://2016.ogrs-community.org/
>> https://github.com/NASAWorldWind/
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> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for ideas on osgeo activities

2016-04-26 Thread Marc Vloemans
Alternatively

What is going to happen to the outcome?
Some extra communication on that may enlist more entries.


Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 26 apr. 2016 om 00:41 heeft Dirk Frigne <dirk.fri...@geosparc.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> We can try to discuss the first results on BOF on FOSS4G-NA, GWF and
> other activities going on... Discussing Face2f can help in getting feedback.
> 
> I will put this on the agenda during the workshop about OSGeo Europe on
> the GWF OSGeo day on May 24, 2016 in Rotterdam.
> 
> just my 2c
> 
> Dirk
> 
>> On 26-04-16 00:07, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
>> we didn't set any end-date for the survey. 
>> Nevertheless few answers have today been received, any action to better
>> involve members is more then welcome.
>> 
>> Maxi
>> 
>> 2016-04-25 23:33 GMT+02:00 Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com>>:
>> 
>>What is the timeframe here Maxi? You may also consider writing an
>>news post, or as project leads to pass this opportunity on to the
>>developer lists.
>> 
>>--
>>Jody Garnett
>> 
>>On 24 April 2016 at 03:12, Massimiliano Cannata
>><massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch
>><mailto:massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch>> wrote:
>> 
>>Dear members
>>The survey to collect your actions proposal is still open
>>waiting for your contribution.
>> 
>>Maxi
>> 
>>-- Messaggio inoltrato --
>>Da: "Massimiliano Cannata" <massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch
>><mailto:massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch>>
>>Data: 12/Apr/2016 18:41
>>Oggetto: 2016 OSGeo's actions - Survey
>>A: "OSGeo Discussions" <discuss@lists.osgeo.org
>><mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org>>
>>Cc:
>> 
>>Dear OSGeo Community member,
>>during the Face to Face board meeting held in February in Eide
>>(Holland) a new 2026 OSGeo strategy has been formulated. We are
>>now in a phase of community engagement to define the tactics to
>>be implemented in the 2016 so that we can advance toward our goals.
>> 
>>For this reason, the board kindly ask you to participate in the
>>survey by filling (as many time as your ideas are) the form at
>>this url: http://goo.gl/forms/HTGTlKv7SB [1]
>> 
>>Details on the process and on the strategy are available
>>at http://www.slideshare.net/cannata/osgeo-2026-strategy [2] and
>>are described in the preamble of the survey.
>> 
>> 
>>In the name of the Board of Directors,
>>Thanks and Best regards,
>>Maxi
>> 
>> 
>>[1] http://goo.gl/forms/HTGTlKv7SB
>> 
>>[2]  http://www.slideshare.net/cannata/osgeo-2026-strategy
>> 
>>-- 
>>*Massimiliano Cannata*
>> 
>>Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica
>> 
>>Responsabile settore Geomatica
>> 
>> 
>>Istituto scienze della Terra
>> 
>>Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>>Tel. +41 (0)58 666 62 14 <tel:%2B41%20%280%2958%20666%2062%2014>
>> 
>>Fax +41 (0)58 666 62 09 <tel:%2B41%20%280%2958%20666%2062%2009>
>> 
>>massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch <mailto:massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch>
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> Responsabile settore Geomatica
>> 
>> 
>> Istituto scienze della Terra
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> Campus Trevano, CH - 6952 Canobbio
>> 
>> Tel. +41 (0)58 666 62 14
>> 
>> Fax +41 (0)58 666 62 09
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
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> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Awesome OSGeo Vision and Analysis from Marc Vloemans!

2016-04-15 Thread Marc Vloemans
Hi Maxi

I have not been at the actual birthing myself ;-)
As far as I could retrieve from the archives the MapServer community appeared 
to have been the basis, as its Bylaws were legally transferred/adopted. Perhaps 
someone else knows more?

More importantly it illustrates that ; the mental model/ideas of how to 
organise and run an umbrella organisation like OSGeo is a carbon copy of how a 
single project community operates (voting, chapter members in stead of 
committees, infrastructure like IRC/wiki). For inspiration I draw from; the 
Apache Foundation is somewhat differently organised from its individual 
projects (in terms of governance, structure, expertises, processes, 
infrastructure and the like).

From a former life (Architecture/City planning); 'form follows function'. A bus 
station (usually) does not resemble a single bus.

Looking forward to your suggestions/ideas on the matter. 

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 15 apr. 2016 om 13:45 heeft Massimiliano Cannata 
> <massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Thanks Mark for sharing your personal vision, as multi-decade experienced 
> person. 
> I believe that your points are helpful to inspire further discussion.
> 
> The only remark I wish to mention is that OSGeo is a community that has 
> always been an umbrella for projects (it never evolved to, but it born from 
> several communities as it is).
> 
> Maxi
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2016-04-15 12:28 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com>:
>> Mark has started an excellent SWOT analysis of OSGeo, laying a foundation 
>> for a practical, implementable vision for OSGeo. I suggest everyone grad a 
>> coffee and take the time to read and then comment:
>> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Marketing_Committee
>> 
>> Mark, thank you for the deep thought you have obviously put into this. I'm 
>> excited to hear feedback from others, and ideas on how to refine your ideas 
>> and put them into practice.
>> 
>> Warm regards, Cameron
>> 
>>> On 15/04/2016 2:04 am, Marc VLOEMANS   wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the invite and effort preparing it. I will certainly try to fill 
>>> it out to my best of abilities. But I feel it lacks an objective frame work 
>>> to sift, group, choose, prioritise and execute the results of the 
>>> questionnaire.
>>> The present leap from vision/mission to objectives is often a bit too big 
>>> for me (I miss a storyline); explicit transparent strategy formulation 
>>> should make the questionaire easier :-).
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately there are too many implicit assumptions when it comes to our 
>>> intended strategy. We already do many things (events, projects, products, 
>>> partnering, other initiatives) for many stakeholders. But which add more 
>>> value to these than others (having a volunteer does not make something 
>>> worthwhile doing)? What do stakeholders expect from OSGeo (did we ever 
>>> ask)? Which initiatives are more instrumental to fullfil our mission than 
>>> others (not necessarily the number of mentions in the questionaire...)? 
>>> Which initoatives deserve more attention than others (eg those fullfilling 
>>> more objectives at the same time)? If none of us is interested in executing 
>>> a certain activity/task, it does not mean that this activity is not crucial 
>>> to our existence.
>>> 
>>> I have done some quick thinking and writing on how general strategic 
>>> principles would apply to OSGeo, where the Board's objectives fit in and 
>>> what possible avenues we have to meet them. So I share this with the list 
>>> via this link: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Marketing_Committee
>>> For those who take the time to read, hopefully my thought process can help 
>>> with filling in the questionaire and deciding what we are going to do and 
>>> monitoring the results!
>>> 
>>> (For those who do not know me; I have a multi-decade track record in 
>>> strategy, business development and marketing with   most types of 
>>> organzations. Good software has an architecture, good strategy does too ;-)
>>> 
>>> Please, do not consider this as a critique or an alternative to 
>>> vision/mission/objectives and related questionaire, but rather as a means 
>>> to fill essential gaps. Ones to fill in order to optimise our added value 
>>> as an organisation.
>>> 
>>> Happy reading.
>>> Cheers, Marc Vloemans
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Marc Vloemans
>>&g

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 2016 OSGeo's actions - Survey

2016-04-14 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
Dear all,

Thanks for the invite and effort preparing it. I will certainly try to fill
it out to my best of abilities. But I feel it lacks an objective frame work
to sift, group, choose, prioritise and execute the results of the
questionnaire.
The present leap from vision/mission to objectives is often a bit too big
for me (I miss a storyline); explicit transparent strategy formulation
should make the questionaire easier :-).

Unfortunately there are too many implicit assumptions when it comes to our
intended strategy. We already do many things (events, projects, products,
partnering, other initiatives) for many stakeholders. But which add more
value to these than others (having a volunteer does not make something
worthwhile doing)? What do stakeholders expect from OSGeo (did we ever
ask)? Which initiatives are more instrumental to fullfil our mission than
others (not necessarily the number of mentions in the questionaire...)?
Which initoatives deserve more attention than others (eg those fullfilling
more objectives at the same time)? If none of us is interested in executing
a certain activity/task, it does not mean that this activity is not crucial
to our existence.

I have done some quick thinking and writing on how general strategic
principles would apply to OSGeo, where the Board's objectives fit in and
what possible avenues we have to meet them. So I share this with the list
via this link: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Marketing_Committee
For those who take the time to read, hopefully my thought process can help
with filling in the questionaire and deciding what we are going to do and
monitoring the results!

(For those who do not know me; I have a multi-decade track record in
strategy, business development and marketing with most types of
organzations. Good software has an architecture, good strategy does too ;-)

Please, do not consider this as a critique or an alternative to
vision/mission/objectives and related questionaire, but rather as a means
to fill essential gaps. Ones to fill in order to optimise our added value
as an organisation.

Happy reading.
Cheers, Marc Vloemans

Kind regards,

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2016-04-12 18:41 GMT+02:00 Massimiliano Cannata <
massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch>:

> Dear OSGeo Community member,
> during the Face to Face board meeting held in February in Eide (Holland) a
> new 2026 OSGeo strategy has been formulated. We are now in a phase of
> community engagement to define the tactics to be implemented in the 2016 so
> that we can advance toward our goals.
>
> For this reason, the board kindly ask you to participate in the survey by
> filling (as many time as your ideas are) the form at this url:
> http://goo.gl/forms/HTGTlKv7SB [1]
>
> Details on the process and on the strategy are available at
> http://www.slideshare.net/cannata/osgeo-2026-strategy [2] and are
> described in the preamble of the survey.
>
>
> In the name of the Board of Directors,
> Thanks and Best regards,
> Maxi
>
>
> [1] http://goo.gl/forms/HTGTlKv7SB
>
> [2]  http://www.slideshare.net/cannata/osgeo-2026-strategy
>
> --
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>
> Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica
>
> Responsabile settore Geomatica
>
>
> Istituto scienze della Terra
>
> Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design
>
> Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana
>
> Campus Trevano, CH - 6952 Canobbio
>
> Tel. +41 (0)58 666 62 14
>
> Fax +41 (0)58 666 62 09
>
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>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Recruiting OSGeo Santa Clause(s)

2016-03-19 Thread Marc Vloemans
Thx Cameron for your positive feed back!

I guess Gert Jan and I - from the perspective of our involvement in marketing 
FOSS4G in Bonn - are running into all sorts of 
questions/expectations/thresholds/legacies/assumptions/undecided items and the 
like. Thus our own questions and remarks and at least often in my case; 
exasperation.

I will involve myself with drafting a concept marketing doc for us in the wiki 
in the upcoming time. Making use of what seems reusable where appropriate. And 
everybody is invited to discuss, comment and ask!!!
I will probably ask the community some tough questions beforehand ;-)
@Nicolas/Gert Jan: hopefully you can actively write and contribute!?!?

(However, I will not involve myself with the present promotional 
aspects/agenda-2016. Although I agree that the train needs to move on, I am 
just better suited to work from a solid and agreed foundation/design.)

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 18 mrt. 2016 om 12:27 heeft Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Nicolas, Marc,
> You both have proposed some excellent ideas on what we should do within the 
> marketing committee, and I think you are also offering to make it happen? 
> Thank you.
> 
> I suggest put your ideas into the existing marketing wiki, as linked from 
> here: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Committee
> 
> I suggest not being scared to archive old content. Maybe initially move under 
> an "Old Material" heading, with strikeout font, or move to an "archive" wiki 
> page, and eventually remove all together. Some of this old content I've 
> created, and I'll be delighted to see it ruthlessly refreshed and improved in 
> the ways you've suggested.
> 
> I expect that once you put draft ideas together with a commitment to move it 
> forward, you will attract positive feedback, and likely attract more 
> volunteers.
> 
> I don't think it matters much whether you work under the banner of "marketing 
> committee", "web committee" or "conference committee". The key element is 
> that something gets done. We are volunteers, and we are effective as a 
> "do-ocracy".
> 
> So please feel empowered, and start putting your ideas into the wiki. Ask for 
> feedback. It is always easier to discuss an idea after someone has writing a 
> first draft. I'd love to see what you suggest.
> 
> Warm regards, Cameron
> 
>> On 18/03/2016 10:11 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
>> Thanks for the clarity Marc, there is a very different focus between the two 
>> activities.
>> 
>> My two-cents is what we need here - and what Cameron asked for at the start 
>> of the thread - is volunteers to put time on the table. OSGeo is a volunteer 
>> organization, please in pitch in to make it great.
>> 
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>> 
>>> On 17 March 2016 at 09:37, Marc VLOEMANS <marcvloema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> All
>>>  
>>> If this year's marketing communication and budget is reflecting last 
>>> year's, then that's of course a discretionary Board decision.
>>> To combine WebCom and MarkCom can in that case be a practical solution, for 
>>> now...
>>>  
>>> However, to combine them more permanently would downgrade the 'Art of 
>>> Marketing' 
>>> to just 'Promotion'. And would not emply the total toolbox at our disposal 
>>> to grow usage of 
>>> FOSS for GIS. Marketing can be so much more...
>>>  
>>> In order to really benefit from all marketing has to offer, we need to have 
>>> established at a minimum level:
>>> - what are our offerings/products/services and their added end value?
>>> - what is (are) our target segment audience(s), direct and indirect for the 
>>> above?
>>> - how do we create interest for it/these (the promotional aspect) per 
>>> target group?
>>> - how/via which appropriate channels do we distribute that 
>>> offering-product-service (incl OSGeo-Live)
>>> - which community members/orgs/externals/partners/suppliers are to be 
>>> involved
>>> - what are available timelines, resources and deliverables?
>>> And these questions-answers are to be addressed interdependently in a 
>>> single coherent approach.
>>>  
>>> If such approach is considered too far fetched...then just have a single 
>>> Com 
>>> for the future, focusing on promotional aspects and media; 'PromCom'.
>>>  
>>> Not my preferred choice, though ;-)
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Marc Vloemans
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Marc Vlo

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Recruiting OSGeo Santa Clause(s)

2016-03-18 Thread Marc VLOEMANS
All


If this year's marketing communication and budget is reflecting last
year's, then that's of course a discretionary Board decision.
To combine WebCom and MarkCom can in that case be a practical
solution, for now...

However, to combine them more permanently would downgrade the 'Art of
Marketing'
to just 'Promotion'. And would not emply the total toolbox at our
disposal to grow usage of
FOSS for GIS. Marketing can be so much more...

In order to really benefit from all marketing has to offer, we need to
have established at a minimum level:
- what are our offerings/products/services and their added end value?
- what is (are) our target segment audience(s), direct and indirect
for the above?
- how do we create interest for it/these (the promotional aspect) per
target group?
- how/via which appropriate channels do we distribute that
offering-product-service (incl OSGeo-Live)
- which community members/orgs/externals/partners/suppliers are to be involved
- what are available timelines, resources and deliverables?
And these questions-answers are to be addressed interdependently in a
single coherent approach.

If such approach is considered too far fetched...then just have a single Com
for the future, focusing on promotional aspects and media; 'PromCom'.

Not my preferred choice, though ;-)


Marc Vloemans


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2016-03-17 12:45 GMT+01:00 Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl) <
gert-...@osgeo.nl>:

> Hi all,
>
> The website is a tool, just as OSGeo-Live is a tool.
> The 2 committees (WebCom and MarkCom) are closely related.
>
> In  my opinion MarkCom set the goals and probably defines what tools are
> needed to reach these goals.
> WebCom makes sure  one of these tools is up and running.
> That requires different skill, which makes it a valid choice to keep the 2
> committees separated.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Gert-Jan
>
>
>
> Venkatesh Raghavan schreef op 16-03-2016 7:53:
>
>> On 3/16/2016 3:00 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
>>
>> I think that nicolas ideas are fully right. Website is one of the
>>> best
>>> marketing tool.
>>> Maybe making one committee from two dormient make one awake... could
>>> we
>>> consider to join webcom and marketing in a new one?
>>>
>>
>> I also think that merging web and marketing committees would make a
>> lot
>> of sense.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Venka
>>
>> Maxi
>>> Il 15/Mar/2016 21:39, "Jody Garnett" <jody.garn...@gmail.com> ha
>>> scritto:
>>>
>>> Thanks Cameron & Nick, could you start outlining a "reboot" on the
>>> wiki
>>> and grab an agenda item for next months board meeting? We also have
>>> a
>>> hangout/workparty for board members (and officers?) in case you want
>>> some
>>> companionship shaping the wiki page.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jody Garnett
>>>
>>> On 15 March 2016 at 04:38, nicolas bozon <nicolas.bo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Cameron, Marketing Committee, OSGeo Directors,
>>>
>>> As a member of the so called "dormant" Marketing Committee, i would
>>> be
>>> glad to help revitalising it.
>>>
>>> In fact it hasn't been a satisfactory nor confortable situation to
>>> be a
>>> member of such a forgotten commitee since 2012.
>>> So i'd like to volunteer for championing such committee reboot, and
>>> propose to help define strategic changes, recruit new members and
>>> tackle
>>> some of the administrative tasks.
>>> I can also chair the Committee if needed, and if this is
>>> appropriated for
>>> gathering the troops. Cameron, I am not Santa (but 'Klaus' only:)),
>>> but I'd
>>> be very glad to learn from your experience and we may try to enhance
>>> things
>>> together.
>>>
>>> However,i think the commitee's mission and role should be revised,
>>> probably indepth modified, and aligned with the new OSGeo plans.
>>> My main point is that the mandate of the OSGeo Marketing Committee
>>> must
>>> go way beyond the funding of OSGeo events and the managment of
>>> consumables
>>> or swag, as it mostly did (or not) until now.
>>> OSGeo Live is one of our best marketing tool to showcase some of the
>>> Foundation's software projects, but not to promote and market the
>>> Foundation itself IMHO.
>>> OSGeo Live must of course be

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Recruiting OSGeo Santa Clause(s)

2016-03-15 Thread Marc Vloemans
Before handing out money to undoubtedly worthy causes...a marketing (which is 
more than just the promotional 'P' ) plan would be the usual starting point. 
Agreed upon by the Board and with input from all.

So. Why is what is given to whom, when and to what amount? Effectively; what 
precedes a marketing committee.

Unless, a plan/framework is in place, Santa Claus/Easter Bunny/Tooth Fairy/etc. 
can expect to receive a lot of flak. Groups and initiatives have no clue as to 
what (governable) rules to comply with. Besides all sorts of unwanted chaos and 
misunderstandings can be expected.

By the way, does one also not start to code without some sort of initial and 
agreed plan?

Any volunteers besides me to have a stab at it?

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 15 mrt. 2016 om 08:42 heeft Cameron Shorter <cameron.shor...@gmail.com> 
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> OSGeo needs help distributing money to worthy causes. We need an OSGeo Santa 
> Clause.
> 
> The current state of play is:
> * The OSGeo Board has allocated budget for an OSGeo marketing committee to 
> distribute.
> 
> * But, our OSGeo Marketing committee has imploded. (I was the last chair, a 
> few years back). It seems no one is interested in the administrative tasks of 
> giving away money, doing the administrative work of writing cheques, being 
> accountable, deciding which requests get funded verses which don't based on a 
> set of guidelines.
> 
> My take is that handing out money to worthy marketing causes can't be too 
> important, as it is not bugging anyone enough to want to step up and 
> volunteer to fix it. But I'd be delighted to proven wrong, and see some 
> people volunteer to step up to revitalise the OSGeo marketing committee. If 
> you are possibly interested, please speak up. I'd be happy to help you get 
> started.
> 
> A first task would be to consider this request from Bob.
> 
> Warm regards, Cameron
> 
>> On 9/03/2016 6:29 am, Jody Garnett wrote:
>> Sounds like an amazing event, marketing committee should have a budget to 
>> work against shortly (it is an agenda topic for this week and you can see 
>> the budget on the wiki ).
>> 
>> Cameron is involved with both marketing committee and OSGeo live and should 
>> be able to assist.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Jody Garnett
>> 
>>> On 8 March 2016 at 08:59, Bob Basques <bbasq...@sharedgeo.org> wrote:
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> I haven’t heard anything back on the following request from anyone (other 
>>> than Jody commenting about where this should be sent . . .).
>>> 
>>> So trying again . . .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> First, let me know if this is the wrong list to request from.
>>> 
>>> We’re holding a regional Geo conference and would like to include a 
>>> OSGeo-Live thumb drive in each attendees goody bag.  So, please consider 
>>> this an official request for funding of OSGeo Live Thumb Drives for the 
>>> event.  
>>> 
>>> This is a multi- discipline, multi-state event for all things Geo.  60 
>>> confirmed presenters.  This will be a highly knowledgable audience and 
>>> because of the varied subject matter it will be an excellent venue to get 
>>> the word out to new folks about OSGeo and it’s mission, via the OSGeo Live 
>>> project.  More info about the event can be seen here: 
>>>  
>>> www.umgeocon.org
>>> 
>>> We’ve planned for 350 attendees.  We can make our own thumb drives, and/or 
>>> pay to have them made ourselves.  We’ve handed these out in the past and 
>>> will also include a getting started cheat sheet for each user to get them 
>>> going with the least amount of effort.  
>>> 
>>> I haven’t checked lately for the going rate on these.  Local suppliers are 
>>> advertising ~$5 each for an 8GB USB3.0 blank drive. 
>>> 
>>> Request is for $2000 ($1750 for Drives, $250 for copying the OSGeo Live 
>>> suite to each).
>>> 
>>> Related, my submission of the OSGeo Live presentation has been accepted at 
>>> the event, and there will also be a (free) GeoMOOSE workshop.
>>> 
>>> bobb
>>> 
>>> -- 
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>>> bbasq...@sharedgeo.org
>>> 612.598.9210
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] FOSS4G events - email privacy

2015-12-22 Thread Marc Vloemans
Dear Board et al

Let me give an idea why some kind of CRM would be appropriate;
- finances are managed in a financial software environment like SAP
- code is managed in a SVN env like Trac
- collaboration is done in eg Google Docs
- relations are managed in a CRM
however none are managed in a list !

It is probably a matter of dominant perspective or mental model ; if the 
majority of a community is financially/technically/commercially in background 
it tends to approach every problem with its own unique tool set. Unless a 
hammer is the only tool available

Please let's treat the OSGeo relationship management as an important  enough 
theme. Unless outreach and promotion are not on the agenda any more. Doing 
document management in a SVN environment a little while ago was already bizar 
enough ;-)

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 23 dec. 2015 om 02:55 heeft Sanghee Shin <shs...@gaia3d.com> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Hi Steven, 
> 
> I don’t think that might be another loads of managing different lists. The 
> core lists are only two, previous attendees and sponsors lists, 11 lists are 
> there at MailChimp. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> 
> 신상희
> ---
> Shin, Sanghee
> Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company
> http://www.gaia3d.com 
> 
>> 2015. 12. 23., 오전 12:45, Steven Feldman <shfeld...@gmail.com> 작성:
>> 
>> Sanghee
>> 
>> I noticed that this conversation is taking place solely on Conference list 
>> so I have extended to Discussions to gain a wider range of opinion hopefully
>> 
>> I think it may be more work for FOSS4G LOCs and others to manage loads of 
>> different spreadsheet lists rather than maintaining one master database.
>> __
>> Steven
>> 
>> 
>>> On 22 Dec 2015, at 14:55, Sanghee Shin <shs...@gaia3d.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Steven and all, 
>>> 
>>> I know MailChimp is not for the CRM. However I believe the core part of the 
>>> customer relation management doesn’t lie on the CRM SW but on interaction 
>>> with customers, for us it means previous FOSS4G attendees and sponsors. 
>>> 
>>> As a volunteer organisation I don’t think we have enough time and resources 
>>> to manage another CRM SW - whether that is open source or proprietary.  
>>> 
>>> So, how about just focusing on giving thanks and asking participation to 
>>> OSGeo’s activities? It will not be so frequent. I believe introducing CRM 
>>> SW could be another overkill. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers, 
>>> 
>>> 신상희 
>>> ---
>>> Shin, Sanghee
>>> Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company
>>> http://www.gaia3d.com 
>>> 
>>>> 2015. 12. 22., 오후 6:58, Steven Feldman <shfeld...@gmail.com> 작성:
>>>> 
>>>> MailChimp is not a CRM, it’s mailing software that works of lists that you 
>>>> upload. The challenge is maintaining the lists with any degree of 
>>>> granularity
>>>> 
>>>> I agree with Darrell that a proper CRM would be a great asset allowing us 
>>>> to develop a better understanding of conference delegates, list members 
>>>> etc and deliver more tailored marketing communications to them. There are 
>>>> open source solutions that we could deploy and hosted solutions that we 
>>>> could purchase. 
>>>> 
>>>> I will stick my hand up to help (emphasis on help) with implementation if 
>>>> we decide to go ahead with a CRM
>>>> __
>>>> Steven
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 22 Dec 2015, at 01:42, Sanghee Shin <shs...@gaia3d.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2015. 12. 22., 오전 9:35, Darrell Fuhriman <darr...@garnix.org> 작성:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I’ve always maintained that OSGeo should maintain a CMS with sponsor 
>>>>>> contacts, conference attendees, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We already have MailChimp account for managing previous global FOSS4G 
>>>>> attendees and sponsors. It’s huge asset. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> One it’s all in place, you just have to have a policy for deciding who 
>>>>>> gets access to what, which shouldn’t be that hard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We may add new OSGeo sponsors there to MailChimp for managing all the 
>>>>> thing in one place. And then we may set the access rule, maybe by Board?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> But I was never able to get any traction on that.  *sigh*
>>>>> 
>>>>> To reduce any other

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] OSGeo Privacy Policy: [was FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o]

2015-12-18 Thread Marc Vloemans
+1 Steven

This proposed solution can help keep the LOC going while others work out a 
proposal. Analysis-paralysis could hamstring our whole organisation for too 
long.

Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 18 dec. 2015 om 23:06 heeft Steven Feldman <shfeld...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> It looks like we are going to need a privacy policy (data protection etc) and 
> possibly a separate policy on email (the two are not the same).
> 
> I don’t think this something that Conference Committee can or should do. This 
> is definitely one for the Board. I understand that this is an important issue 
> for Maxi and perhaps some other board members so hopefully they can produce 
> draft versions of the policies, publish them on the wiki and then invite 
> comment from the wider community. I doubt this will be simple to resolve 
> given the multiple jurisdictions and cultures that we encompass.
> 
> Hopefully that can be completed in a couple of months but I recognise that 
> these discussions can take a while. In the meantime perhaps including Ian’s 
> simple draft text "by submitting your email address you consent to us sharing 
> your details for the purpose of keeping you informed of future similar 
> events.  You can unsubscribe from these communications at anytime using the 
> unsubscribe links provided.” in our registration forms would be a good stop 
> gap.
> 
> I suggest that we continue to use MailChimp (because it has an unsubscribe 
> capability) and we should avoid sharing any further contact details amongst 
> ourselves or with external bodies until the new policies are in place. 
> 
> Cheers
> __
> Steven
> 
> 
>> On 18 Dec 2015, at 09:40, Massimiliano Cannata 
>> <massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> wrote:
>> 
>> All,
>> I believe the point is not if it was nice or not to receive a message for 
>> being aware of events (that we will be aware in any case thanks to the 
>> social media and mailing lists) but rather if it is appropriate (or even 
>> legal?) perform these unsolicited mail campaign and the sharing of these 
>> data among person on private and non-regulated way.
>> We all know that having the data, it doesn't mean having the right to 
>> distribute it to 3rd party.
>> 
>> @Ian: I also don't think a single line of acknowledgement while registering 
>> cover the issue. 
>> For instance your proposal of a "non-active OPT-IN" it seems to me not in 
>> line with the EU regulation discussed in these days here (but i'n not a 
>> lawyer):
>> http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/20151217IPR08112/New-EU-rules-on-data-protection-put-the-citizen-back-in-the-driving-seat
>> (thanks Helli for the link!)
>> 
>> 
>> I request, and will add in the next board meeting agenda, to have a deeper 
>> discussion and agreement at OSGeo level.
>> Because I think that the privacy protection is a matter larger then the 
>> FOSS4G only and is of concern to the whole OSGeo community as it may apply 
>> to several cases.
>> 
>> I feel that OSGeo shall define like for the Code of Conduct a Privacy Policy 
>> that applies all over the community and that members shall agree to follow 
>> when they participate in the community.
>> 
>> 
>> my 0.1 cent,
>> Maxi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2015-12-18 10:00 GMT+01:00 Ian Edwards <iedwards@gmail.com>:
>>> I support Paul and Steven's approach (and thank them for their actions to 
>>> help keep the community aware of events) -- but I think it's also certainly 
>>> the case that there is always a set of people on our mailing lists who have 
>>> a strong preference that their details are not shared in a way they do not 
>>> agree to up front - In fact, I'm sure we would all include ourselves in 
>>> this category as the type of "spam" we may receive becomes less relevant to 
>>> our interests.
>>> 
>>> Another way to reach a constructive outcome may be to discuss on the 
>>> conference dev list an update to the FOSS4G Handbook/Cookbook with 
>>> guidelines on opting out when submitting your details.  My preference would 
>>> be a statement that does not require a lot of effort from our volunteer 
>>> organisers, something like:
>>> 
>>> "by submitting your email address you consent to us sharing your details 
>>> for the purpose of keeping you informed of future similar events.  You can 
>>> unsubscribe from these communications at anytime using the unsubscribe 
>>> links provided."
>>> 
>&g

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

2015-12-16 Thread Marc Vloemans
Puneet +1


Vriendelijke groet,
Marc Vloemans


> Op 16 dec. 2015 om 17:56 heeft Puneet Kishor <punk.k...@gmail.com> het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 3:07 PM, Pat Tressel <ptres...@myuw.net> wrote:
>> 
>> If you want to point at a company as being the Evil Empire these days, you'd 
>> be more accurate pointing at Apple (cancelling licenses for Mac clones, 
>> suicides at Foxconn, restrictions on getting apps on iTunes, removing 
>> fitness tracker products from their stores because they might compete with 
>> the Apple Watch, etc. -- do a search for "apple anti competitive practices")
> 
> You were doing fine until above. The rest of your post is indeed very 
> relevant and useful and argues correctly for sanity instead of knee-jerk 
> accusations (until the above assertions, of course).
> 
> The point is, there seems to be a fairly strident Location Tech bashing going 
> on, and it is getting to be tiring. Let's stick to keeping OSGeo a fun, 
> useful champion of free and open geospatial without becoming 
> anti-anything-free, partisan and possibly irrelevant.
> 
> --
> Puneet Kishor
> Just Another Creative Commoner
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