Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread gian


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- Never
- All the time


well, first off I use a cheap entry level server from HP (240 euro,
+disks) with mirrored sata drives. Software mirroring is fairly easy to
setup and well documented with Ubuntu Linux.

Then I have a second Ubuntu box in my country home, so if either should
fail or get lost (houses are made to break into...) I have the other
one.

I keep them synchronized with an USB portable drive from my Windows
notebook, using Samba. This makes a third backup of my flac library.

Couldn't stand to rip them all AGAIN!


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Re: [slim] Duet Wireless Network Problems - Possible Solution?

2008-07-28 Thread mikelee999

I have a D-Link GamerLounge (DGL-4300) with v 1.7 firmware (latest).

Please note that the Duet controller does NOT lose connectivity to the
network (it used to frequently wake up with an APIPA address; I solved
that problem by falling back to WPA from WPA2). 

It just doesn't connect to Squeezecenter. The machine Squeezecenter is
running on can ping the controller and I can remotely log on. The
controller retains its DHCP address. It reports State: Connected.

FWIW, I have recently disabled all but default Squeezecenter plugins.
In the last 36 hours, I've had no connectivity issues. However, it's
been the weekend, so the controller has been in use a lot. It seems to
take several hours of inactivity before the problem occurs.


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Re: [slim] Thread/Forum Read Marking Type

2008-07-28 Thread Milhouse

PRGeno;318607 Wrote: 
 I'd have to agree.  This new mode is not my favorite way to fly.

+1

I've been wondering what was wrong with this forum recently - I haven't
checked-in for a few weeks - but the upgrade would make sense
threads I'm subscribed to and have just posted in don't then appear in
New Posts, and when they do appear in New Posts (usually when someone
else has posted in the thread) the threads aren't listed with the
subscribed threads indicator. I suppose this is all explained by this
new marking method, though maybe not the lack of thread subsription
indicators, but I don't like it.

Can we have the choice to go back to the old marking method?


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread JJZolx


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- Never
- All the time


My music server doubles as a home file server with (currently) a boot
drive and three other hard drives.  I lost the boot drive last month
and I've lost a couple of data drives over the years.  Never lost the
drive (or drives) storing my music library.


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Re: [slim] Duet Wireless Network Problems - Possible Solution?

2008-07-28 Thread mikelee999

mvalera;323181 Wrote: 
 Millhouse is correct, these problems are all caused by improper
 implementations of the PSM standard on your routers.
 
 Mike

If true, wouldn't it save you a lot of trouble to provide a test applet
to validate the PSM implementation on various routers?

You're asking people to replace hardware without proving that it's the
problem and without making recommendations for what will work.


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Re: [slim] Party Mode?

2008-07-28 Thread Husted

This is something I really could use so I've cast my vote. Here's the
link again in case someone is wondering:

http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=8878


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[slim] Universal Remote Code - JVC DVD?

2008-07-28 Thread unclepuncle

MY SB3 remote is broken but I have a Sony universal remote controller
and I have read that I can use a Universal rmeote to control the SB3
and that it uses the JVC DVD codecs.

Does anyone know the best remote code (3 or 4 digit) for this purpose?


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread amcluesent


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- Never
- All the time


RAID5 with a good h/w controller with it's on battary-backed RAM would
seem sensible once your collection  500Gb.


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread JJZolx


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- All the time


amcluesent;323418 Wrote: 
 RAID5 with a good h/w controller with it's on battary-backed RAM would
 seem sensible once your collection  500Gb.

A 750 GB drive goes for about $120, and for backup, an external backup
drive of the same size for about $160.  That's all you need.  RAID is a
waste of money for most music libraries.

For a library that's so large you can't afford to back it up to a
second set of hard drives (more likely a video library or a truly huge
music collection) then RAID 5, or better yet, RAID 6 makes sense.


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Re: [slim] Hourly Skip Limit on Last.fm?

2008-07-28 Thread autopilot

I has seen this from day one (with the official plugin), i think this is
something that has been there for a while. I think you get rid of it by
subscribing (?).


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*Amps:* Cambridge Audio 640a (main room) / Trends TA10.1 Class-T /
Logitech 5.1.
*Speakers:* Mission 701's (living room) / Kef Cresta 1's (bedroom) /
Logitech 5.1's.
*Remotes:* Harmony One (IR) / 1 Beta SB Controller / 1 Official SB
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[slim] Forward/Rewind buttons not working

2008-07-28 Thread milesbeverley

Hi, I have downloaded the latest nightly build of 7.1 and i have noticed
that the forward/rewind buttons don't work on the controller. Or to be
more precise they work for jumping forward/back one song but not for
scanning through the track quickly. I also noticed this problem with a
previous build. Is there a menu item which disables this
functionality??

BTW, Is there a way to resume playing an album halfway through? I seemm
to only  have the option of selecting one track (and it only plays that
one track) or to play the whole album through from the beginning
again.

Any help would be gratefully received! 

-Miles


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Re: [slim] Forward/Rewind buttons not working

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Herger
 Hi, I have downloaded the latest nightly build of 7.1 and i have noticed
 that the forward/rewind buttons don't work on the controller. Or to be

Does nothing happen if you presshold it for a second? What firmware version?

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Re: [slim] Does Duet controller need port 9000?

2008-07-28 Thread funkstar

gandt;323355 Wrote: 
 Changed it to 9001. I'm gonna click that install button...
And he was bever heard from since. 

Shame, he was a decent bloke

;)


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread TonyM


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- Never
- All the time


I use an NSLU2 slug to backup my music drive and other data from
around the multiple PCs that I have. Cheap and simple device, it can be
set up to do daily incremental backups of shared directories on
networked PCs. 

I have had a couple of drive failures on the music drive (currently USB
external but I'm switching to SAT internal) and have simply replaced the
drive and copied all the music files back from the Slug. It takes a
while but it's a lot better and more reliable than DVDs! 

Tony


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Re: [slim] Universal Remote Code - JVC DVD?

2008-07-28 Thread funkstar

Should be fairly similar whichever one you use.

There aren't many buttons on the SB3 remote compaired to many DVD
players like the old JVC ones. So if either of those codes don't
re-produce all the buttons on a DVD remote, there should be enough to
control the SB3.

You aren't going to do any harm in trying both.


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Re: [slim] Forward/Rewind buttons not working

2008-07-28 Thread milesbeverley

Hi, the version is 7.1 r2722. 

When I hold these buttons nothing happens. If I press quickly the the
track jumps forward to the next track or back to the beginning of the
current track.


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread andynormancx


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Ian_F;323367 Wrote: 
 Yeah fair points. I guess my point was that drives with a longer
 warranty -should- last longer than those with a shorter one. I say that
 purely on the basis that manufacturers wouldn't offer longer warranties
 if their drives usually failed in that time period ;-)
Yes, but the original poster wasn't talking about a drive with a longer
warranty, he was talking about buying one without a longer warranty and
then paying extra for some sort of extended warranty, which isn't the
same thing at all.


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Re: [slim] Hourly Skip Limit on Last.fm?

2008-07-28 Thread andynormancx

He is a subscriber:

Siduhe;323318 Wrote: 
 Using 7.2 and the inbuilt Last.fm plugin (as a *subscriber*)


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread Peter

JJZolx wrote:


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- Never
- All the time


amcluesent;323418 Wrote: 
  

RAID5 with a good h/w controller with it's on battary-backed RAM would
seem sensible once your collection  500Gb.



A 750 GB drive goes for about $120, and for backup, an external backup
drive of the same size for about $160.  That's all you need.  RAID is a
waste of money for most music libraries.

For a library that's so large you can't afford to back it up to a
second set of hard drives (more likely a video library or a truly huge
music collection) then RAID 5, or better yet, RAID 6 makes sense.
  


I disagree. The OP complained about the hassle of restoring things from 
backup. That's exactly what RAID saves you. Don't use hardware RAID 
because the controller may fail and you may not be able to get it 
repaired or get a similar replacement a few years from now. Use the 
standard Linux kernel RAID (md) instead.


I recently had a hard disk failure in my colo machine which cost me a 
lot of time.


My current setup is:
Home: Linux server with 3 1TB drives in RAID 5 configuration that store 
music/photos/video/mythtv  personal files
Colo: 1TB drive that receives daily snapshots (rsnapshots) of 
music/photos/personal videos  personal files (30 day retention)


I chose the snapshot/colo option because I know I'm not disciplined 
enough for manual backups.


RAID is *not* a substitute for backups but it may save you a lot of 
downtime and work.


Regards,
Peter

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Re: [slim] Hourly Skip Limit on Last.fm?

2008-07-28 Thread Siduhe

Thanks all - I wonder if the skip limit now applies to everyone, which
would explain why I haven't seen it before (as a subscriber).  Or maybe
the plugin doesn't deliver the necessary info to Last.fm  (though I can
see my loved tracks radio, so it definitely knows I am a subscriber).


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Re: [slim] Multiple Albums?

2008-07-28 Thread MrSinatra

i think it masked the problem, which isn't te same as fixing it.

SOMETHING seems amiss.  it seems to me the behavior is  result of
either the data as you present it to SC, OR SC has some kind of
internal bug that causes it and the data is identical.

of the two, i think the former is more likely.

i think people with this problem should file a bug report and post
their mp3s in it (and a description of how its stored locally) so slim
can recreate the issue.  they can either figure out if its the data or
the slim stuff.


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread egd


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Never (yet) lost a drive in my NAS, but have twice lost Samsung S2504C
drives even though they were still under warranty and hadn't even done
a year's service.  The first time I lost 250GB of FLACs (it was backed
up) and the second time I lost 6 months worth of email and family
photos (not backed up, my own fault thinking it's new and therefore
won't fail).

In any event, two lessons I've learned:
- always backup if you attach any value to data
- don't buy Samsung drives - there's a good reason they're so damned
cheap.


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread Howard Passman


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amcluesent;323418 Wrote: 
 RAID5 with a good h/w controller with it's on battary-backed RAM would
 seem sensible once your collection  500Gb.

The key work here is Hardware Controller.  Cheap software driven raid
boards are nothing but trouble in my experience.  Spend the $$.

BTW, I beleive in the use of RAID, but if you only use your computer
for your music, then you can get by without RAID.  I have a large
second drive installed and I automatically backup my OS and SYS files
to it everyday.  Nothing much changes so that works fine.  As long as
you back up your sys files (Windows)you can get everything right back
to where it was fairly painlessly.  Then I backup my music to an
external drive (currently the BlacX) if I make any changes.  BTW, the
OS and music are on sperate hard drives.  The OS and SC are on a fast
36GB drive by itself. Makes more sense to me.

Have a great day,

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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread amey01


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funkstar;323433 Wrote: 
 I've had two of my various library drives fail in the past couple of
 years.
 
 The first time it was one half of a 2 drive RAID-1 array. So all was
 good. The second it was one of 5 from a RAID-5 array, so again, all was
 good.
 
 I really need to get another 1TB drive and do an external backup
 though, just in case the whole array fails.

Yes for sure. My experience was when no drive died, but the whole array
got corrupted. Unsavable. Dead. 

Get a backup on a nice, simple drive!


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread cliveb


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amey01;323455 Wrote: 
 Yes for sure. My experience was when no drive died, but the whole array
 got corrupted. Unsavable. Dead.
Amen to that. I've seen an Adaptec RAID controller go faulty and
scribble over all five drives simultaneously. As others have said, RAID
is not a substitute for backup.

I'll go further and suggest that RAID only makes sense in two
scenarios:

1. You're running a critical system that must stay running if a spindle
fails.
2. You need the disk read performance boost that can come from
striping.

Neither of these strikes me as relevant in a home media server.

As for the original question in this thread: I've seen perhaps half a
dozen disks go bad over the course of about 20 years I've been using
PCs. They cover the full range of device types (ESDI, SCSI, EIDE, PATA,
SATA) from a variety of manufacturers (Western Digital, Seagate, Maxtor,
etc). Whether a disk fails seems entirely random, nothing to do with
manufacturer or technology. I even have a 30GB IBM Deathstar which
refuses to die - I'd like to have the excuse to replace it!

(I've known one case where a disk had a good excuse for failing. It was
in my wife's work PC which was blown up by the Buncefield oil depot
explosion - it sort of worked but had a lot of bad spots. Amazingly the
other disk in that PC still works to this day!)


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Re: [slim] Can't save Limiting Bandwith setting !?

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Herger
 All of them, depending on how many are switched on. Same setting as with
 Ver 6.54 though.

You can't transcode when synchronizing. Bandwidth limiting is just another way 
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Re: [slim] Can't save Limiting Bandwith setting !?

2008-07-28 Thread peterw

mherger;323464 Wrote: 
 
 You can't transcode when synchronizing. Bandwidth limiting is just
 another way of transcoding.
 

So perhaps the synchronize UIs should exclude any player that has
bandwidth limiting enabled? In the Default Web UI you could even do
something nice like grey out a player name and give it a tooltip to
explain why it cannot be chosen.


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Re: [slim] Can't save Limiting Bandwith setting !?

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Herger
 So perhaps the synchronize UIs should exclude any player that has
 bandwidth limiting enabled?

In this case it's the other way around: it's disabling bandwidth limiting for 
synced players. But you're right: this fact should not only be documented in 
the code ;-).

 In the Default Web UI you could even do
 something nice like grey out a player name and give it a tooltip to
 explain why it cannot be chosen.

Please file an enhancement request - and keep it generic enough so that the 
above issue can be covered too. Thanks!

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Re: [slim] Forward/Rewind buttons not working

2008-07-28 Thread funkstar

What format is your music in?

You cannot seek through tracks that need transcoded. For example, ALAC,
AAC, WMALossless, etc.


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Re: [slim] Forward/Rewind buttons not working

2008-07-28 Thread milesbeverley

ahhh.that might be the problem. I use AAC with iTunes. Why doesn't the
Duet enable me to seek through the track while iPod etc are quite
capable of doing that?


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[slim] Wake On LAN Issues

2008-07-28 Thread andrewfkay

I am currently using my squeezebox as a wireless bridge for my shuttle
pc (windows xp and also my slim server), which works a treat except for
one thing.  When I wake it up with the squezebox remote using Wake On
LAN, the PC boots up fine but says that the 'ethernet cable is not
connected'.  I then have to reboot the squeezbox by holding down the
red power button on the remote for it to connect. 

Any suggestions why this is happening and what can be done to stop me
having to reboot the SB everytime.  Obviously the cable is correctly
attached, otherwise it wouldn't wake it up in the first place.

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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread funkstar


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- 1 or more a year
- 2 or more in mutliple years
- Never
- All the time


cliveb;323459 Wrote: 
 1. You're running a critical system that must stay running if a spindle
 fails.
 2. You need the disk read performance boost that can come from
 striping.
3. You need data volumes larger than a single drive can handle.

My DVD archive NAS is just under 4TB (5x 1TB drives in RAID 5 to take
off the RAID/file system overhead and the 1000 vs 1024 measurments).
And I *really* don't want to have that seperated out into different
drives.

Yes there is risk of my NAS box hosing all the data, but at least
reduced the risk of loosing data due to drive failure. Same goes for my
music library, photo archive and general network share NAS box. This is
the one I need to backup though.


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Re: [slim] Forward/Rewind buttons not working

2008-07-28 Thread funkstar

AAC files are transcoded on the server. Because of the way transcoding
works, it is not currently possible to change the position of the file.
Having this ability has been discussed in the past, but it would require
a complete re-write of that sub system of SqueezeCenter.

Due to space in the Recievers firmware (as well as the SB2/3 and
Transporter) there isn't enough space for the software required to
decode AAC. The iPod doesn't have this problem becasue that is what it
is designed to play.


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread egd


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- Never
- All the time


cliveb;323459 Wrote: 
 
 I'll go further and suggest that RAID only makes sense in two
 scenarios:
 
 1. You're running a critical system that must stay running if a spindle
 fails.
 2. You need the disk read performance boost that can come from
 striping.
 
 Neither of these strikes me as relevant in a home media server.The third 
 scenario that makes a lot of sense to me is if you have a
large data store you'd like to keep consolidated eg my audio library.
which is going to exceed 3GB in due course.  A JBOD partition would be
disastrous in the event of a disk failure whilst a RAID 5 or 6 array at
least provides a chance of recovery in the event of a disk failure.


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[slim] Problems with Squeezebox/Orange Livebox HELP!

2008-07-28 Thread jackleaves

I have been having continual problems with my Squeezebox and my Orange
Livebox router.

Basically, they are no longer talking to each other Wirelessly!  I can
connect them via Ethernet cable and it works, and my Livebox is
enabling my PC to connect to the Internet wirelessly, but I can't
access my music using my Squeezebox at all.  

I have been on the phone a number of times to both Orange and Logitech
but to no avail - however the hardware was talking to each other a few
weeks ago - I only started having the problem recently, after being
away a few days.

Can anyone who has this set up help me - I have tried removing
encryption, resetting everything to factory settings etc.  The
ridicuolous thing is that I actually got it working wirelessly when the
squeezebox was 4 feet from the PC (and when I had logitech on the phone)
so that I was happy and they thought they had solved the problem -
however... when I took the PC upstairs and moved the squeezebox to
another room everything went wrong again :-( 

Can any kind person help?!

Cheers
Simon Fathers


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Re: [slim] Forward/Rewind buttons not working

2008-07-28 Thread milesbeverley

Ok. Thank you for the explaination.

BTW, do you know how I can resume playing an album halfway through (or
pick a track to continue playing from). I only seem to be able to play
the album from the start or only play one track. Thanks, Miles.


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Re: [slim] Hourly Skip Limit on Last.fm?

2008-07-28 Thread andyg

Last.fm does have a skip limit, just like Pandora.


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Re: [slim] Forward/Rewind buttons not working

2008-07-28 Thread radish

Resuming playback is only possible if you were paused - and it should
start back from where you were. Currently the only way to start an
album/playlist from the middle with the controller is to start at the
beginning and skip forward. A fix for this is in the current test
versions of SC.


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread cliveb


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- Never
- All the time


funkstar;323478 Wrote: 
 3. You need data volumes larger than a single drive can handle.
Good point - I didn't think of that one.


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Re: [slim] Universal Remote Code - JVC DVD?

2008-07-28 Thread unclepuncle

What two codes?


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[slim] Controller Frustration

2008-07-28 Thread davep

I bought a Controller for use with my Transporter a couple of months ago
and although it was initially ok it seems to have become increasingly
uncooperative in recent days.  It had begun to frequently lose the
network connection although a restart would normally fix this.  For the
past couple of days however it has been unable to get a proper IP
address on my network (should be 192.168.1.xxx) always getting
something which I think began with 259.

Today I said enough of this and hit the factory reset option to try a
clean start.  However the result has been getting stuck in a dead end
where the Controller runs what I assume is a set-up wizard (which I
don't remember from the first time I set it up) and appears to connect
to my network but then goes to a screen where it asks me to set up my
Receiver - which of course I don't have - and cannot get out of this
place without simply going back and doing it again.

As of now the Controller is  completely useless. I have tried disabling
WEP security on my router and done multiple hard resets of the
Controller and am now out of ideas. 

I would appreciate some help if anybody knows how to break out of this
rut.

davep


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Re: [slim] Hourly Skip Limit on Last.fm?

2008-07-28 Thread Siduhe

Thanks Andy, do you know what it is?  The only reason I ask is that I
seem to be able to skip at will using the Last.fm client, certainly far
more tracks than I can skip using the official Last.fm plugin.  Would be
interesting to compare.


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Re: [slim] Universal Remote Code - JVC DVD?

2008-07-28 Thread funkstar

unclepuncle;323492 Wrote: 
 What two codes?
I was meaning the 3 or 4 digit codes you mensioned in your first post.


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Re: [slim] Hourly Skip Limit on Last.fm?

2008-07-28 Thread andyg

The limit is specified as part of their API response, but it's currently
6 I believe.  I don't know why their official client doesn't use it. 
I'll ask if we could ignore it too.


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Re: [slim] Duet Wireless Network Problems - Possible Solution?

2008-07-28 Thread Milhouse

mikelee999;323409 Wrote: 
 If true, wouldn't it save you a lot of trouble to provide a test applet
 to validate the PSM implementation on various routers?
 
 You're asking people to replace hardware without proving that it's the
 problem and without making recommendations for what will work.

You already have the facility to test if PSM is correctly implemented
in your router: If your Controller experiences network
connectivity/stability issues when PSM is enabled and yet you have
solid network connectivity when PSM is disabled, then chances are your
router has poorly implemented/defective PSM support... The best option
might be to start a thread or wiki entry discussing known good and
known bad routers with regard to PSM support.

My Controller has just arrived so in the next few days I'll be able to
test it with my Linksys WRT54GS running Sveasoft Talisman 1.3 (or
thereabouts) firmware... this setup works perfectly with my Nokia
internet tablets which have maximum PSM enabled.


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Re: [slim] Controller Frustration

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Herger
 to my network but then goes to a screen where it asks me to set up my
 Receiver - which of course I don't have - and cannot get out of this
 place without simply going back and doing it again.

Press and hold LEFT (back) to get out of that mode. You should then be able to 
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[slim] Controller - Static IP - DNS question

2008-07-28 Thread bhaagensen

Hi,

I've been meaning to ask this for a while. When configuring my SBC with
Static IP, I was limited to choosing the DNS-ip's 1. digit to 1 or 0,
i.e. {0|1}xx.xxx.xxx.xxx 

Just clicking through without altering the pre-filled numbers resulted
in  the field being filled with my gateway ip.

It seems to work fine both when connected locally and to
SqueezeNetwork. But I would like to know what is going on though ? How
does the SBC resolve ip's? 

My isp-provided dns is on the form 2xx.xxx.xxx.xxx .

Thanks, Bjørn


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Re: [slim] Controller Frustration

2008-07-28 Thread FredFredrickson

Well, typically, getting a bad IP address was something I got from my
linksys router because of a memory leak. I did a firmware update on my
linksys router and that fixed the problem for good.

That being said, it could be a faulty controller.. not sure though.
Have you tried calling support?


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Re: [slim] Hourly Skip Limit on Last.fm?

2008-07-28 Thread Siduhe

Thanks Andy. Just to confirm (because I just did another test), I can
skip 10+ tracks using either the Last.fm client or the web interface
without hitting the limit - maybe because I am a subscriber, or maybe
it's just an API thing.  Either way, it would be nice to extend the
skip limit out a bit if it can be done - some of my Recommendations
have been a bit wide of the mark recently! ;-)


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread FredFredrickson


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- 1 or more a year
- 2 or more in mutliple years
- Never
- All the time


With Terabyte drives so cheap these days, there's no good reason not to
do a mirror.

My best advice is similar to what everybody's saying. Mirror! I
currently have a mirror for all my data, running two SEAGATE drives
(seagate has a 5 year warranty, and a good track record from what I've
seen). 

The minute one failes, you send it back, get a new one, pop it in,
repair the mirror, and continue like nothing happened.

Avoid software raid- those will cause nothing but problems. Hardware
raid only- and don't go cheap. Expect to spend at least $75 - $150 on
the raid controller alone.

As awlways- http://www.newegg.com 

(I am not affiliated with Newegg, but they are cheap!)


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Re: [slim] Party Mode?

2008-07-28 Thread FredFredrickson

Voted. Let's make party mode happen!


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Re: [slim] Controller - Static IP - DNS question

2008-07-28 Thread Sike

I had a problem once that the ip was (fictious!) 192.123.232.079 and it
changed to 244.236.022.079

When I tried to change the first numer to a '2' it wouldn't let me
because it would have become 292 which is not possible... try changing
the second number to 5 or below and give it another shot.


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Re: [slim] Controller - Static IP - DNS question

2008-07-28 Thread radish

many home routers act as dns proxies, they configure themselves from the
ISP's dhcp and pass on any lookups they get. That's probably why it
works for you with the gateway ip.


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread ctbarker32


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server?

- 1 or more a year
- 2 or more in mutliple years
- Never
- All the time


Great discussion everybody. Keep it coming.

In doing research and from suggestions from earlier in the thread
(thanks) which of these two drives would one choose? One hundred dollar
price difference:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148278Tpk=N82E16822148278

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148299Tpk=ST31000340SV

Thanks.

-CB


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Re: [slim] Problems with Squeezebox/Orange Livebox HELP!

2008-07-28 Thread autopilot

I cant really help, but the Orange box is known for causing all sorts of
problems like this. Not just with Squeezebox, but Xbox360's and all
sorts of other devices. It's very cheap, it was made to be given away,
and they have to give them away free as no one would ever buy one it
would seem. This is not the answer to your question, but I would
seriously think about buying a decent router.


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*Players:* Squeezebox 3 (main room) / Squeezebox Receiver (bedroom) /
Softsqueeze (office).
*Amps:* Cambridge Audio 640a (main room) / Trends TA10.1 Class-T /
Logitech 5.1.
*Speakers:* Mission 701's (living room) / Kef Cresta 1's (bedroom) /
Logitech 5.1's.
*Remotes:* Harmony One (IR) / 1 Beta SB Controller / 1 Official SB
Controller. 

'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/domrevans/)

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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread Pat Farrell
ctbarker32 wrote:
 In doing research and from suggestions from earlier in the thread
 (thanks) which of these two drives would one choose? One hundred dollar
 price difference:

I'd go with the cheaper one. Or check and see if two @ 1/2 T is cheaper
still.

server drives are a lot more expensive. I'm not see that they are
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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread exile


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- 2 or more in mutliple years
- Never
- All the time


i don't have an opinion as to which drive you should purchase but I
wanted to add my two cents.

I have a couple of friends who work for a data recovery company. Their
mantra is that all drives fail-some manufacturers have a better rep
than others but all manufacturers sell drives that die. Therefore the
most important thing is to have a proper backup strategy.

my own setup: two 500 gig external la cie firewire 800 drives. I'm on a
mac so I use a program called deja vu to backup my music every night.
deja vu does a good job of keeping the two music directories perfectly
in sync.

I also have an internal mirror drive of my main system hard drive. I
use a program called superduper to backup my main system drive every
night as well. so if my main system died I would just switch over to
the mirror and keep on going. and this actually happened to me about
six months ago when my original main hard drive died. But since I had a
perfect mirror, the transfer from one drive to the other was seamless. 

my personal feeling is that a RAID setup is overkill. I work with RAIDS
professionally and they do work well but in a home environment it's not
necessary.

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Re: [slim] Thread/Forum Read Marking Type

2008-07-28 Thread jsharper

Milhouse;323407 Wrote: 
 
 threads I'm subscribed to and have just posted in don't then appear in
 New Posts

Why would/should it show in New Posts when you are the last one who
posted?  By definition, if you posted the last post, then you have seen
the most recent post in that thread (you wrote it!), in which case there
is nothing new in there that you haven't seen.  New is supposed to
mean new to you -- something you haven't seen yet not new to the
forum -- recent posts


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Re: [slim] MusicIP Rocks!

2008-07-28 Thread maggior

itm;323263 Wrote: 
 I've got a library of 70,000 tracks (which don't include podcasts), and
 the current MIP estimate is 28 weeks to analyse them all. I'm not sure
 I can wait 6 months for this!!

Too many people get hung up on the analysis part of this.  You can
start using MIP before doing the lengthy analysis.  I have not done the
full analysis and I use MIP all of the time.

Initially, it will based mixes strictly on your tags.  This works quite
well.  When you perform the full analysis, each track is fingerprinted
allowing more finely tuned mixes.  

Earler in this thread (which has gotten quite large!) a developer from
MIP commented on this very topic confirming that MIP will work well
even without full analysis.


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Re: [slim] Browsing music folder: SB3 doesn't show tracks in some dirs

2008-07-28 Thread Phil Leigh

pipetman;323323 Wrote: 
 I just finished re-scanning my music library and that seemed to fix the
 problem. 
 
 Somewhat strange and counterintuitive (plus counterproductive), that a
 folder browse function is affected by the db.
 
 Nonetheless, thanks for pointing me into the right direction.

:o) - well to me it is extremely counterintuitive that the mere act of
browsing or not browsing a folder determines whether or not the files
in the folder end up in the database - but I guess I'm in a minority of
1 (and I do understand why this was done - as a quick way of playing new
music)


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[slim] iPhone application

2008-07-28 Thread blaaaaaaah

Hi all,

I'm currently developing an iPhone application to control the
squeezecenter. It makes JSON calls using cli commands. It starts
working and I'm looking for a designer able to help me doing some
artwork (buttons, icons) and general look  feel. It'll become
open-source as soon I have a beta version.

BTW, feel free to make any feature requests or comments that could
help.

Thank you

Thomas


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Re: [slim] Can't save Limiting Bandwith setting !?

2008-07-28 Thread topa

But why were these settings possible with 6.54? And I was able to listen
to all three SBs synced ONLY BECAUSE OF this setting! With all three SBs
set to FLAC the network would break down causing the SBs to stutter. So
I limited the one in the kitchen to 320/MP3 and all three worked
together just fine.

Puzzled...


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Re: [slim] iPhone application

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Herger
 I'm currently developing an iPhone application to control the
 squeezecenter.

Seems to be rather popular recently. I've read from about three guys working on 
this. Maybe you should join your efforts?

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Re: [slim] Can't save Limiting Bandwith setting !?

2008-07-28 Thread Michael Herger
 But why were these settings possible with 6.54?

Because synching was broken by design?

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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread FredFredrickson


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Question: How often do you have hard drive failures of your music
server?

- 1 or more a year
- 2 or more in mutliple years
- Never
- All the time


Raid isn't terribly overkill when you consider the price (Not that
expensive) vs convenience (you don't have to remember to do backups!).

That being said, a raid mirror doesn't substitute for a good backup. It
will protect you against hardware failure, but not against user error
(Accidental deletion, overwriting a file, viruses, etc). So both a
mirror and a backup solution are optimal.

I'd go with the cheaper of the two drives, they seem identical in
specs. Seagate all the way!!


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Re: [slim] Party Mode?

2008-07-28 Thread Dean100

Placed my vote.

Lets get the party started!


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread funkstar


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Question: How often do you have hard drive failures of your music
server?

- 1 or more a year
- 2 or more in mutliple years
- Never
- All the time


exile;323533 Wrote: 
 my personal feeling is that a RAID setup is overkill. I work with RAIDS
 professionally and they do work well but in a home environment it's not
 necessary.
I would disagree. With the amount of data I'm talking about I would
need 8x 500GB and 8x1TB drives. That is a significant difference,
especially as i would have needed to go with a very large PC case and
custom build a server with at least one pretty expensive RAID card to
get all those ports (or a couple of cheaper ones i guess). a 5 drive
RAID-5 NAS is pretty easy to set up and get working, they don't take up
much space either.

Granted I'm not a average home user, but still, i think there are a
significant number like me on here and other forums i frequent :)


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Re: [slim] Thread/Forum Read Marking Type

2008-07-28 Thread funkstar

We are splitting hairs here, but for me not seeing posts i'd recently
read or posted in included in the New Posts search was confusing at
first, mainly because thats how all my other forums work.

It also makes it *slightly* harder to work out what is new since the
last time you hit New Posts in the same session as there isn't a bunch
of non-bold read threads marking where you were :)


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Re: [slim] iPhone application

2008-07-28 Thread funkstar

Have a look at iPeng -
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49821


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread exile


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- 1 or more a year
- 2 or more in mutliple years
- Never
- All the time


funkstar-

I agree if you're dealing with multiple TB's of data then the RAID
scenario is the most logical. But I do think that multiple TB's is the
exception to the norm of most home media servers.


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread 4mula1


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Question: How often do you have hard drive failures of your music
server?

- 1 or more a year
- 2 or more in mutliple years
- Never
- All the time


My backup scare came when I patched Solaris and it failed to boot
afterwords.  I was able to mount my filesystem from the CD and make an
nfs mount, so I was able to save my music, but that was too close.

My music collection isn't overly large, but I do need to service my
Solaris and Windows boxes.  I picked up a Linksys Slug and installed
the unslung firmware so I could install the nfs daemon.  I use rsync on
the Solaris box and SyncBack on the Windows box to backup to the Slug.

I eventually picked up another Slug and installed it at my parent's
house, again unslung, running ssh and rsync to have a remote backup. 
All of their pictures and such are backed up to the Slug at their
place, which is then mirrored on mine.  If a file gets accidentally
deleted or corrupted I'm still screwed, but if my house goes up in
flames I still have a copy of my data someplace else.

The Slugs were relatively cheap and do well enough.  The one at my
parents house with unslung 6.10 seems to need a reboot every couple of
weeks where mine with 6.8 just keeps on going...


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Re: [slim] iPhone application

2008-07-28 Thread pippin

Thomas,

Michael, is right, you are at least #4 ;-)

And I also feel it miht be a good idea to join forced.
What I have so far is a lot of artwork ;-), a fully functional skin,
Erland's plugin that can help a lot on menu functionality and plugins,
lots of JSON/RPC based business logic that just needs porting to
Objective C and a few nice looking controllers that need lots of glue.

Somebody else has tried to use CLI instead of JSON/RPC and it looks as
if it could perform much better.

blaaah;323553 Wrote: 
 
 I'm currently developing an iPhone application to control the
 squeezecenter. It makes JSON calls using cli commands. It starts
 working and I'm looking for a designer able to help me doing some
 artwork (buttons, icons) and general look  feel. 
 
Have a look at iPeng ;-)
 
 It'll become open-source as soon I have a beta version.
 
You haven't really read that License Agreement and NDA you signed when
downloading the SDK, didn't you?
Can't go open source on iPhone.
 
 BTW, feel free to make any feature requests or comments that could
 help.
 

What I feel is right to do tonight or tomorrow: I will set up some
pages on native iPhone dev. on penguinlovesmusic.com that we could use
to discuss on how a joint effort could be set up.
The difficult part is: you cannot exchange code openly, but you have to
make sure everybody signed up on Apple's NDA, so google code is not
possible (Google retains the rights to use any code on there). But we
could set up a private svn.
The I feel we might need to agree upon some general guidelines on
things like: how should this whole baby look like.
And the, of course, we need to get this through the App Store.

Any feelings?


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Re: [slim] Thread/Forum Read Marking Type

2008-07-28 Thread Milhouse

jsharper;323539 Wrote: 
 Why would/should it show in New Posts when you are the last one who
 posted?  By definition, if you posted the last post, then you have seen
 the most recent post in that thread (you wrote it!), in which case there
 is nothing new in there that you haven't seen.  New is supposed to
 mean new to you -- something you haven't seen yet not new to the
 forum -- recent posts

Because that's the way it's always worked on forums and it's what I am
(and I'm sure many others are) used to seeing - not seeing it appear
led me to believe something was broken with the forum indexing, now I
understand it's a configuration change that someone thought was a good
idea and has made a global setting. Not really sure I fully understand
the reason for the change, but I'd have thought offering the option for
members to continue with the old way (which is standard on just about
every forum) would have been a good idea.


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Re: [slim] MusicIP Rocks!

2008-07-28 Thread itm

Presumably you have to wait until the validation is complete before you
can start using it?


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Re: [slim] Hourly Skip Limit on Last.fm?

2008-07-28 Thread brookheather

There is also a bug when you reach your skip limit - if you press pause
and then press play you just see the message about the skip limit -
there doesn't seem to be anyway of resuming playback.


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Re: [slim] Thread/Forum Read Marking Type

2008-07-28 Thread JJZolx

New Posts works exactly as I'd expect.  I like that it has a divider
between those threads that have new posts made since my last visit.  I
wouldn't expect a post in which I was the last poster to appear on this
page, since there's no new content.  Try Quick Links  Subscribed
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Re: [slim] MusicIP Rocks!

2008-07-28 Thread Harry G

maggior;323540 Wrote: 
 Too many people get hung up on the analysis part of this.  You can start
 using MIP before doing the lengthy analysis.  I have not done the full
 analysis and I use MIP all of the time.
 
 Initially, it will based mixes strictly on your tags.  This works quite
 well.  When you perform the full analysis, each track is fingerprinted
 allowing more finely tuned mixes.  
 
 Earler in this thread (which has gotten quite large!) a developer from
 MIP commented on this very topic confirming that MIP will work well
 even without full analysis.

If, without full analysis, it mixes just from tags, how does this
differ from simply generating a random mix of a genre? 

BTW: Because of its slowness, I'm suspicious about how the analysis is
actually done. I have a feeling there's this big locked room in India
with a T1 line, rows and rows of desks, and.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Monkey-typing.jpg
All of the workers gravely listening to each of our tunes on headphones
before making their artistic decisions. 

Seriously, this is such a powerful tool that its really a shame that
the setup is a barrier to the non-technical. I'm now comfortable using
MIP. However, of the eight friends I've gotten into Squeezeboxen, all
bright people, the only ones I will introduce MusicIP to are a computer
store owner and a digital engineer. For the others, the setup and
ongoing maintenance, when they stumble, would become my job:-(

I am hoping that Logitech will license MIP as other companies have and
properly integrate it into their product. The old Slim Devices got so
much work for free from their enthusiastic user base that it gave
management an odd, jealous attitude about outsiders making money from
their product.

Logitech is a real company with a history of paying real money for what
they need. I'm hoping one of the company's Suits will read the
feedback on this plugin and see the logic in properly embracing this
process.


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread y360


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- 1 or more a year
- 2 or more in mutliple years
- Never
- All the time


I've had two MyBook Essential hard disk failures to date
The Amazon consumer reviews reveal the unreliability of this particular
model, which is still very popular because of its attractive price

http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-500-Book-Essential/dp/B000XRK3LG/


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Re: [slim] Controller - Static IP - DNS question

2008-07-28 Thread bhaagensen

Thanks for the answers on both of my questions. They seem like plausible
explanations, and i will try to verify when i get time. 

For anyone reading this thread: The reason i'm using static ip has
nothing to do with connection problems, rather it is because it makes
my controller wake up from standby significantly faster.


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Re: [slim] Controller Frustration

2008-07-28 Thread davep

Michael,
I had been trying the hold left move several times without it doing
anything and then - of course almost immediately after I vented my
frustration on the forum here - it did work and got me to exactly where
it should and allowed me to get back on track.

All is now fine, except a slight concern as to how it could become so
messed up, seemingly without provocation.  

Thanks,
davep


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Re: [slim] Party Mode?

2008-07-28 Thread Jonnio

voted as well...I also like play doing play next vs. play now.


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Re: [slim] 7.0.1 does not scan library at all

2008-07-28 Thread phaedra

chrisinparis,
well done mate, I agree the Squeezebox Duet should be the best useable
gadget around. 
As I mentioned I used a Roku M1000 and was great, software updates
screwed it up, displays were no longer correct and the main issue was
the Analog audio out would not always work, music was playing according
to the display but no audio, had to keep reboting the unit and then it
worked.

Next step for me was the Sonos, but it is a bit long in the tooth and
rumors about the newer versions did not sound that good, it was claimed
they dropped the second audio out connections and I need that: optical
to my home theatre pre amp and analog for the outdoor area on the other
side of the wall, hence the importance of the 2 way RF remote with the
display (Roku was simple 1 way IR type.
The SB Duet seemed to fit my requirements 100%, and allow easy
expansion.
Let's see what the response will be.
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[slim] Rhapsody request with playlists

2008-07-28 Thread ZenRhapsody

New and very satisfied Duet user!

I love that I can mix playlists between my local library and online
Rhapsody tracks.  

However, if you scroll through the current playlist and select a track
from 'my library', there is an option to 'remove from playlist.. 
Tracks from Rhapsody only have 'add to my library' (and something else,
I forget at the moment).  Why can't we have a 'remove from playlist' on
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[slim] dos window opens ever time I play a song

2008-07-28 Thread MoodyDragon

First of all, please forgive me if this has been asked before. I could
not find an answer, hence posting this.

Every time I start playing a song from SqueezeCenter to my wireless
Slimdevice, I get a windows command line window opening up... Can
someone please tell me how to stop this rather annoying feature?

I have an AMD computer running Windows XP

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Re: [slim] iPhone application

2008-07-28 Thread dean

It's not completely clear, at least to me, that you cannot release the
source to iPhone applications.  Some are doing it:

http://iphone.wordpress.org/2008/07/24/version-11-and-beyond/

Some additional discussion here:

http://plasmasturm.org/log/512/

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2008/07/24/apple-gpl-iphone


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[slim] Controlling Server with Other App in MacOS X

2008-07-28 Thread Bob Stern

Instead of using the SlimServer database, if I create my own music
database in some other application (eg, FileMaker), is there a protocol
for another app to send commands to SlimServer to play a specified list
of music files that are not stored in the SlimServer database?

(Should I move this question to a different forum?)


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Re: [slim] Controlling Server with Other App in MacOS X

2008-07-28 Thread Pat Farrell
Bob Stern wrote:
 Instead of using the SlimServer database, if I create my own music
 database in some other application (eg, FileMaker), is there a protocol
 for another app to send commands to SlimServer to play a specified list
 of music files that are not stored in the SlimServer database?

Can you be a bit more specific?
The SqueezeCenter database does not contain the music, those bits live
in files on your disk. The database contains artist/album/song data,
more precisely, meta data, data about the music.

The SqueezeCenter uses its database of metadata to know what to stream
to the SqueezeBox/Receiver/Transporter.

Playlists are separate, they are just lists of files to play. Its easy
to make playlists with nearly anything and have the SqueezeCenter play
the songs that are living in the disk structure that the SqueezeCenter
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Re: [slim] Controlling Server with Other App in MacOS X

2008-07-28 Thread Bob Stern

Perhaps what I need to do is command SlimServer (programmatically, not
via the GUI) to add several music files to its database, create a
playlist containing those files, and then play the playlist.

Is this documented somewhere?

When I'm done listening to this playlist, I expect I'd want to delete
the playlist (and perhaps even the pointers to the files) from the
SlimServer database.

Thanks, Pat!


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Re: [slim] Controller - Static IP - DNS question

2008-07-28 Thread bobkoure

I'm pretty sure that the squeezebox does not drop its DHCP lease when it
goes into standby.
Are you using wireless?


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Re: [slim] Controlling Server with Other App in MacOS X

2008-07-28 Thread Pat Farrell
Bob Stern wrote:
 Perhaps what I need to do is command SlimServer (programmatically, not
 via the GUI) to add several music files to its database, create a
 playlist containing those files, and then play the playlist.

I'm not sure you are using playlist the same way that the SqueezeCenter
Do you mean a selection? or do you really mean a playlist (m3u file)?



 Is this documented somewhere?

The command line interface can be use programatically by any
programming language.

Its documented in the SC help,
http://schost:9000/html/docs/help.html


 When I'm done listening to this playlist, I expect I'd want to delete
 the playlist (and perhaps even the pointers to the files) from the
 SlimServer database.

Why would you want to do this? Again, you can 'rescan' the library, but
I don't see any reason to remove the songs from the database.

I can't see any downside from having the tunes in the database



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Re: [slim] Network Test: Wireless vs. Homeplug

2008-07-28 Thread bobkoure

And that one's -not- a switching power supply? Or does the linear part
mean it's nicer to the power on your mains?


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Re: [slim] Controller - Static IP - DNS question

2008-07-28 Thread Pat Farrell
bobkoure wrote:
 I'm pretty sure that the squeezebox does not drop its DHCP lease when it
 goes into standby.

Actually, when it was posted, I was wondering what the lease expiry time
is. I can see it being so short that you'd have to reconnect when you
wake up. The easier solution would be to change the DHCP server to give
longer leases.

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Re: [slim] MusicIP Rocks!

2008-07-28 Thread maggior

Harry G;323613 Wrote: 
 If, without full analysis, it mixes just from tags, how does this differ
 from simply generating a random mix of a genre? 
 
 BTW: Because of its slowness, I'm suspicious about how the analysis is
 actually done. I have a feeling there's this big locked room in India
 with a T1 line, rows and rows of desks, and.
 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Monkey-typing.jpg
 All of the workers gravely listening to each of our tunes on headphones
 before making their artistic decisions. 
 
 Seriously, this is such a powerful tool that its really a shame that
 the setup is a barrier to the non-technical. I'm now comfortable using
 MIP. However, of the eight friends I've gotten into Squeezeboxen, all
 bright people, the only ones I will introduce MusicIP to are a computer
 store owner and a digital engineer. For the others, the setup and
 ongoing maintenance, when they stumble, would become my job:-(
 
 I am hoping that Logitech will license MIP as other companies have and
 properly integrate it into their product. The old Slim Devices got so
 much work for free from their enthusiastic user base that it gave
 management an odd, jealous attitude about outsiders making money from
 their product.
 
 Logitech is a real company with a history of paying real money for what
 they need. I'm hoping one of the company's Suits will read the
 feedback on this plugin and see the logic in properly embracing this
 process.

It's a lot different than just a random mix.  When you do the full
anslysis, it looks to see if there is a fingerprint for the track in
the MIP database (accessed over the internet).  If there is, it applies
it to the track.  If not, it generates one.  That's what takes time - to
generate the fingerprint, it analyzes the audio data.

If you don't do the full analysis, you still get valid mixes that work
quite well.  These mixes are still based on the algorithms used in MIP.
You just *may* not have the best mix possible.  For instance, a live
version of a song might be handled differently than a studio version if
a full analysis has been done.  

I suggest you read back in this thread.  You will see that just adding
the tracks creates mixable tracks from even the most obscure artists
and albums.  I have a lot of indie imported electronic music that is
listed as mixable without doing any analysis.  I was very impressed.

I do agree that better integration would be nice.  However, many of the
issues lie on the MIP side.  I run my MIP server headless on a Linux
server and find that I have to restart it at least once a week.  This,
plus the lack of understanding on how to add tracks efficiently, what
the advantage is of doing full analysis on tracks, what MIP is actually
doing, and so on, are not issues with Logitech, but with *MIP*.  

Getting it going can certainly be a frustrating experience.  I was
lucky and found some good info on the 'net that helped and I was up and
running with something in a short amount of time.  But it took me time
to figure out how to hack my init script to start MIP automatically
when SC is started.

I agree that there is room for improvement, but, IMHO, many of the
issues lie at MIP's doorstep, not Logitech's.  The community has done a
great job of providing info (much of it developed in this thread), but
it can only go so far with the current implementation.


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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread Peter
FredFredrickson wrote:
 
 A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
 results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50299
 
 Question: How often do you have hard drive failures of your music
 server?
 
 - 1 or more a year
 - 2 or more in mutliple years
 - Never
 - All the time
 

 With Terabyte drives so cheap these days, there's no good reason not to
 do a mirror.

 My best advice is similar to what everybody's saying. Mirror! I
 currently have a mirror for all my data, running two SEAGATE drives
 (seagate has a 5 year warranty, and a good track record from what I've
 seen). 

 The minute one failes, you send it back, get a new one, pop it in,
 repair the mirror, and continue like nothing happened.

 Avoid software raid- those will cause nothing but problems. Hardware
 raid only- and don't go cheap. Expect to spend at least $75 - $150 on
 the raid controller alone.
   

On the topic of hardware vs. (Linux) software RAID:

http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/008696.html
http://linux.yyz.us/why-software-raid.html

I have a colleague who got bitten real hard by one of those cheap (yes, 
$150 is cheap) hardware controllers. Lost everything, no backup. 
Hardware RAID on professional servers with 4 hour maintenance contracts 
from reputable vendors are a good idea but you're much better off with a 
reliable software RAID like Linux MD than with a hobby card with barely 
any support. You need backups in any case.

Regards,
Peter



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Re: [slim] Hard drive failures

2008-07-28 Thread Peter
Pat Farrell wrote:
 ctbarker32 wrote:
   
 In doing research and from suggestions from earlier in the thread
 (thanks) which of these two drives would one choose? One hundred dollar
 price difference:
 

 I'd go with the cheaper one. Or check and see if two @ 1/2 T is cheaper
 still.

 server drives are a lot more expensive. I'm not see that they are
 proportionally more reliable.
   

FWIW: I just had a server class drive fail a month ago. I haven't had a 
consumer drive fail in years.

Regards,
Peter

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