[slim] Running Slimserver.pl in windows

2009-12-09 Thread lemmy999

I have not been using the windows executable since 6.4. I installed perl
and then use srvany to load slimserver.pl as a service.  This was worked
for me in several versions.  However today I checked out the latest
version of 7.4 trunk.  I had everything working but the service for
Slimserver.pl would not work (even though I had updated the registry
settings for the srvany key, to the new directory were the 7.4 trunk was
located). It worked fine if I just ran "perl slimserver.pl" from the
command line.  

In messing around with the SqueezeMySQL service I can't get anything to
run now.  I have even installed the windows executable and it will
install, but it can't start SqueezeServer.  It all seems to be a problem
with the MySQL.  If I manually start the SqueezeMySQL service, it just
stops in a few seconds.  How can I get the SqueezeMySQL to work again? 
Thanks.


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Re: [slim] SB3 randomly rebooting

2009-12-09 Thread Mnyb

Power supply problems at the SB3 or a loose connection from the power
supply ?


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Re: [slim] 7.4.1 rebuffering woes

2009-12-09 Thread Mnyb

Yep Holding 1 is the xilink reset (you unplug it and hold 1 during boot
so that you see "xilink reset" in the display )

Holding + ( add ) is the factory reset.

Your SB3 should have firmware version 130 can bees seen in the web
interface
settings > information page

If you rummage around in the setup menu of the SB3 (hold left arrow a
while)
You can set it to auto update firmware , note you can do that after you
got it updated to one of never versions. Othervise an SB3 wants you to
hold the brightness button to upgrade firmware

For other readers, for future reference
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Hardware_Reset_commands

If you get "weird" audio out of an squuezebox a xilink reset is usually
the thing to do.


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Re: [slim] Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!

2009-12-09 Thread peterw

iPhone;493936 Wrote: 
> Is time and material for the above procedure more or less then a used
> SB3 on EBAY?

Have you looked on eBay lately? There used to be a LOT of SB3 / SB
Classic units for sale. Now there are 3 on the main eBay site -- two
auctions that are days from closing, and one seller asking $349 USD for
an SB3 with a homemade power supply. SB Receivers are similarly in short
supply on eBay (three Buy It Now for about $200 each), though there are
a few more Duet setups and Booms available. Things are certainly much
different than a couple months ago when you could buy refurbished
players from MySqueezebox.com for cheap. It looks like supply is drying
up, so Logitech really needs to get the new gear out on the market.

Logitech hasn't announced anything, but I expect they'll release an
updated Receiver (and Duet bundle) at the same time as Touch, based on
the Touch/SqueezePlay/ARM platform, so I *don't* think it's a bad sign
that Receivers seem hard to find right now. I don't at all think
Logitech is wavering in its support of the Squeezebox product line, but
merely that they underestimated demand for the old gear.


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[slim] SB3 randomly rebooting

2009-12-09 Thread rew1000

Any hints on how to debug this problem?:
Over the last few weeks, my SB3 has been rebooting randomly while
playing. It doesn't seem to be related to a particular file type - it
has happened with MP3 files, podcasts and streaming audio. It generally
happens perhaps 20 minutes after playing, but has happened within a
couple of minutes of starting. I've tried various logging settings on
the server, but I haven't yet seen any hint of a cause. I've tried
factory reset + audio reset. No sign of similar problems with a Boom
running off the same server.

Is there a way of logging problems on the client side? Any other hints?
Thanks...

(SB3 Firmware 130 / Squeezebox server 7.4.1 on OS X connected via
802.11g wireless)


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Re: [slim] Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!

2009-12-09 Thread bobkoure

I'd have to agree that the best solution is to get the seller to swallow
it back. Might be hard to do if you bought it "as is", although if the
seller knew it was unusable this isn't a lot different from shipping you
a box of rocks.

If you end up stuck with it, before you start trying to convert it into
a non-demo unit it seems to me there was at least one person posting
here with a SB3 who'd had the display unit fail. Someone else mentioned
that the display module is available for around $200.
So what you might have there is a donor display unit, ripe for
desoldering...


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Re: [slim] system audio output via osx?

2009-12-09 Thread upriver

ah syncing is a good point, thanks.  I see some of the options in VLC
for outputing, but not sure how it works yet.  I'll keep looking but
would love to hear from anyone who's done this.  


Love the SB so far, otherwise.  the Live Music Archive thing is
especially great, and glad they added an NPR navigtor.


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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread Luke Redpath

erland;493899 Wrote: 
> 
> I have no idea how much pippin has earned on iPeng but I suspect it's
> not close to the time he has spent designing, developing and supporting
> users who purchased it.

I don't know how many copies iPeng has sold but I'm certain its
significantly more than Squeemote. But even then, I can safely say that
if I was to calculate how much Squeemote has "cost", based on my typical
daily rate and the time spent on it, what I have earned from it wouldn't
even be approaching a quarter of that amount.


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Re: [slim] system audio output via osx?

2009-12-09 Thread lrossouw

VLC on windows can create an audio stream of what its playing similar to
an internet radio stream.  You then tune into that stream on the
squeeze.  I think you will have issues with audio syncing with video. I
think you can adjust timing on VLC.

I can't help you with specifics.


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Re: [slim] Internet - stream mp3 files

2009-12-09 Thread andyg

Take a look at http://www.mp3tunes.com


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[slim] Internet - stream mp3 files

2009-12-09 Thread HPF

Is it possible to upload mp3 files + playlists to my account at
mysqueezebox.com and stream my music from there? Don't like to have my
powerhungry PC turned on just to run squeezebox server.


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Re: [slim] system audio output via osx?

2009-12-09 Thread upriver

Well I did find the User Guide (it is available from some parts of the
site but not others... looks like this whole product line has been
transfered around and never wholly updated).

Still wondering if OSX sound out is possible.


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Re: [slim] Feature Wish - LastFM/Artwork

2009-12-09 Thread lrossouw

socistep;493998 Wrote: 
> I probably didn't explain too well..
> 
> I was thinking that currently SB checks whether *.jpg is in a music
> folder or the album artwork is embedded in the file - my thought was
> whether there could be a third option to pull artwork from
> lastFM/napster etc. whilst streaming music if no local artwork available

You did explain well.  I obviously didn't :)
What I meant to say is that there is already a program that pulls down
all the last.fm photos for artists in your library and saves them in a
folder you specify.  

So to complete what you want someone needs to change the code to use
that info instead of the default picture it uses if it can't find album
art. Or as you suggested in place of compilation covers.


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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread erland

jmpage2;493980 Wrote: 
> I have actually been surprised myself that Logitech hasn't simply made
> an offer to buy the iPeng product line, rebadge them as Logitech branded
> applications and offer them for free to drive more sales of the hardware
> they make money on.
> 
> What would be the harm in them offering him $250K for his sweet sweet
> application if he also agrees to go on retainer to continue supporting
> it for the next few years?
> 
Once again, if they use these $250K to spend some resources to
encourage and offer better support for third party development I bet
they would be able to get a lot more third party add-ons besides just
the iPeng app.

I understand that some people seems to think that everything will be
better if it's owned by Logitech but I personally really don't think
this is the case. 

I believe Logitech would get more advantages of supporting third party
development than actually owning the third party development. One reason
that we have some very creative solutions made by third party developers
today is that they aren't restricted by the Logitech management and
strategy in the same way as all in-house development are. Third party
developers can create solutions that are a bit outside the box, while
all in-house development has to follow the main strategy.


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[slim] system audio output via osx?

2009-12-09 Thread upriver

Hello-

Searched long and hard and found reference to "waveinput" plugin to
play windows audio over squeezebox.  However, I cannot find reference to
a certain function in OSX.  Is there a way to have VLC, Quicktime, or
DVD player audio from and OSX computer be sent to squeezebox?  I used to
use cables to playback audio for video, and have been enjoying the
squeezebox for music, but would still like to use stereo system for
computer video.  Is this possible? 

Also I see several references to the "user guide" but the logitech site
only offers the quick start guide.  Does the "user guide" still exist?

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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread pippin

bluegaspode;494052 Wrote: 
> You are saying that you did work 40h/week for three years on that plugin
> ?

Oh, you were talking about me? Didn't get that :)
You said "typical open source developer" and "make happy" with "money"
also a limited sum of it... all didn't quite fit together.

Sounded like you found some jobless coders, for some strange reason
these always disappear whenever I need them.


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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread bluegaspode

pippin;494041 Wrote: 
> Really???
> You know developers here in Berlin who are willing to work, say, three
> years for 60TEUR? (you forgot about the "few years" of support!)
> Please PM me some phone numbers, need to make them happy :)

You are saying that you did work 40h/week for three years on that
plugin ? Hell - what did you do for a living in the rest of the time ?
*searches pippin on Xing - think I found you*

Anyway - from a business point of view the offer is not about how much
time you did spent. It's about what your future expectations are.

Say you go on - then you will need to spend at least 40h/week ;) also
the next year(s) with coding and support. With x sold units you will
earn x*(price-commision) Euros with your work.
If the offer is just twice (or three times) as much - you will make a
lot of money and don't have any hazzle anymore. Instead a lot of time to
write a new good App that you can sell in three years again...

You are free to claim that you expect to sell more then 10.000 units in
a given time period to push my initial offer of 100.000 of course :)
Maybe you even got rich with this App already ?


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Re: [slim] Any possibility for 24/96 support on the SB3?

2009-12-09 Thread radish

No.


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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread pippin

bluegaspode;494039 Wrote: 
> Sorry - meant 3rd party developer of course.
> Doesn't change the price (for getting the app + sourcecode + all
> rights) :)
> 
> Did I mention that my weather-screensafer is for sale as well *G* ?

Really???
You know developers here in Berlin who are willing to work, say, three
years for 60TEUR?
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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread bluegaspode

Ben Sandee;494029 Wrote: 
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:50 PM, bluegaspode
> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thats what I thought as well. Just would have started with 100.000 :)
> > (not to diminish pippins work which I don't know - price just
> estimated
> > on what a typical open-source developer might be happy with ).
> 
> Interesting, but iPeng is not open source AFAIK.
> 
> Ben

Sorry - meant 3rd party developer of course.
Doesn't change the (first offer) price (for getting the app +
sourcecode + all rights) :)

Did I mention that my weather-screensafer is for sale as well *G* ?


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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread pippin

bluegaspode;494016 Wrote: 
> Thats what I thought as well. Just would have started with 100.000 :)
> (not to diminish pippins work which I don't know - price just estimated
> on what a typical open-source developer might be happy with ).

Cool. You know open source developers here in Berlin who are happy with
60TEUR for just a few years of work? Can you PM me a some phone numbers,
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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread Ben Sandee
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 4:50 PM, bluegaspode
 wrote:
>
> Thats what I thought as well. Just would have started with 100.000 :)
> (not to diminish pippins work which I don't know - price just estimated
> on what a typical open-source developer might be happy with ).

Interesting, but iPeng is not open source AFAIK.

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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread bluegaspode

jmpage2;493980 Wrote: 
> What would be the harm in them offering him $250K for his sweet sweet
> application if he also agrees to go on retainer to continue supporting
> it for the next few years?

Thats what I thought as well. Just would have started with 100.000 :)
(not to diminish pippins work which I don't know - price just estimated
on what a typical open-source developer might be happy with ).


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Re: [slim] 7.4.1 rebuffering woes

2009-12-09 Thread apg

Thank you for your responses.  Hard-wiring the squeezebox to the router
is an excellent idea and I will try that.  If nothing else,  it will
eliminate some potential causes of the issue.   

The squeezebox does not autoupdate but I have (as you might expect
given my performance issues) found myself holding down the brightness
button quite frequently lately.  But no illumination results.


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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Gone

2009-12-09 Thread nerieru

bpa;493849 Wrote: 
> I've reproduced the problem.  It will occur when there is no transcoding
> support for both AAC and WMA - as is normal on ReadyNAS but will also
> happen on Linux or OSX systems which are not "supported" by Logitech and
> do not have "faad" installed.
> 
> I'll file a bug for it.  In the meantime all I can suggest is to save
> and then edit the URLs of the stations you want to play as follows:
> remove the "aac,"

bpa thank you, you've been helping me very well. I hope to see it get
fixed in the future. You've been a major help so thanks!


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Re: [slim] Feature Wish - LastFM/Artwork

2009-12-09 Thread socistep

lrossouw;493724 Wrote: 
> Album artwork in Last.fm is basically Amazon artwork.  There are tools
> that help automate the process of assigning Amazon artwork to files.
> 
> Photos of artists on last.fm is what you're after I think?  Erland's
> custom scan plugin can be setup to download pictures for artists in your
> collection from last.fm
> 
> If you use his custom browse plugin as well these should be displayed
> on the web interface when browsing to the artist.  Don't think they are
> displayed anywhere else, but it may be possible to change the interface
> to show the artist picture on compilations or where no album art is
> available for example...  But I don't have skills to do that. So part of
> what you need is already done.

I probably didn't explain too well..

I was thinking that currently SB checks whether *.jpg is in a music
folder or the album artwork is embedded in the file - my thought was
whether there could be a third option to pull artwork from
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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread jmpage2

I have actually been surprised myself that Logitech hasn't simply made
an offer to buy the iPeng product line, rebadge them as Logitech branded
applications and offer them for free to drive more sales of the hardware
they make money on.

What would be the harm in them offering him $250K for his sweet sweet
application if he also agrees to go on retainer to continue supporting
it for the next few years?

Certainly seems like a win win to me, although admittedly as soon as
the marketing geniuses at Logitech get involved they will muck up the
interface, slap annoying ads in it, etc.

On 2nd thought it would be a very BAD idea for Logitech to acquire this
app!  :)


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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread erland

pippin;493923 Wrote: 
> That's of course true. It's just a bit harder because you have to pay
> for the App something some people seem to have bad feelings about.
> 
Logitech could solve this by giving a $10 discount to anyone that has
purchased one of the iPhone applications. Or is there even a way for
logitech to bundle some kind of Apple AppStore check with the device ?

It's all about supporting third party development and making it
interesting to increase the income through hardware sells.
pippin;493923 Wrote: 
> 
> For some reason I will not understand, lots of people would rather pay
> 100$ more on hardware instead of 10$ for additional software.
> 
People need something they can touch and software can't be touched,
it's just a file in the file system.
I know it's a bit strange but I also know that sometimes I also do this
myself, its easy to buy some kind of hardware for $10 but buying
software for $10 is for some strange reason a harder decision for most
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Re: [slim] Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!

2009-12-09 Thread iPhone

seanadams;493928 Wrote: 
> Obtain a working SB3. Disassemble, remove CPU module (using CA solvent
> if needed on mezzanine connector). Using SMD hot air rework station and
> nozzle suitable for TSOP 48 package, remove flash chip (marked
> AM29LV160xxx or compatible). Install in compatible programmer using
> appropriate adaptor and extract the flash image. Resolder flash chip and
> reassemble working SB3.
> 
> Disassemble demo SB3 and remove CF daughtercard. Repeat above
> procedure, except write the extracted image from step 1.
> 
> If you want wireless, obtain an Atheros mini-PCI module with AR2413
> chipset and suitable antennas (eg 2.4GHz folded planar with mini I-PEX
> connector). Hire a lab to verify regulatory compliance. Reassemble.

+1  

Is time and material for the above procedure more or less then a used
SB3 on EBAY? I am guessing more especially since one needs a working SB3
to extract the correct working flash image.

Best advice, make every attempt to get your money back (work with
Credit Card company or PayPal), then buy a used SB3 on EBAY from a
reputable seller.


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Re: [slim] Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!

2009-12-09 Thread Phil Leigh

jtf;493930 Wrote: 
> If I had a nickel for every time I've done this...

I'd have no nickels...


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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread ModelCitizen

pippin;493923 Wrote: 
> That's of course true. It's just a bit harder because you have to pay
> for the App something some people seem to have bad feelings about.
What a bizarre culture. I'm amazed Sonos don't charge for their iPhone
controller app. £5.99 is an absolute snip for iPeng (but don't put the
price up, right?).

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Re: [slim] Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!

2009-12-09 Thread jtf

seanadams;493928 Wrote: 
> Obtain a working SB3. Disassemble, remove CPU module (using CA solvent
> if needed on mezzanine connector). Using SMD hot air rework station and
> nozzle suitable for TSOP 48 package, remove flash chip (marked
> AM29LV160xxx or compatible). Install in compatible programmer using
> appropriate adaptor and extract the flash image. Resolder flash chip and
> reassemble working SB3.
> 
> Disassemble demo SB3 and remove CF daughtercard. Repeat above
> procedure, except write the extracted image from step 1.
> 
> If you want wireless, obtain an Atheros mini-PCI module with AR2413
> chipset and suitable antennas. Hire a lab to verify regulatory
> compliance. Reassemble.
If I had a nickel for every time I've done this...


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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread iPhone

pippin;493923 Wrote: 
> That's of course true. It's just a bit harder because you have to pay
> for the App something some people seem to have bad feelings about.
> For some reason I will not understand, lots of people would rather pay
> 100$ more on hardware instead of 10$ for additional software.

I'm with you! I need another device/remote like I need another whole in
my head. Have an iPhone and its with me just about anywhere I go. Adding
a $10 app makes more sense adding another device/remote at any price.


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Re: [slim] Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!

2009-12-09 Thread seanadams

Obtain a working SB3. Disassemble, remove CPU module (using CA solvent
if needed on mezzanine connector). Using SMD hot air rework station and
nozzle suitable for TSOP 48 package, remove flash chip (marked
AM29LV160xxx or compatible). Install in compatible programmer using
appropriate adaptor and extract the flash image. Resolder and reassemble
working SB3 which hopefully still works.

Disassemble demo SB3 and remove CF daughtercard. Repeat above
procedure, except write the extracted image from step 1.

If you want wireless, obtain an Atheros mini-PCI module with AR2413
chipset and suitable antennas. Hire a lab to verify regulatory
compliance. Reassemble.


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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread pippin

erland;493914 Wrote: 
> Yes, but my point was that they can do that already today even though
> it's developed by a third party developer. 
> 
That's of course true. It's just a bit harder because you have to pay
for the App something some people seem to have bad feelings about.
For some reason I will not understand, lots of people would rather pay
100$ more on hardware instead of 10$ for additional software.


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Re: [slim] DSBridge - A simpler way to stream Spotify

2009-12-09 Thread Hesselvik

E555 you rock! Works like a charm. And thanks to chp for a great little
app.

Now for something completely different.. Webhallen claims that the
Squeezebox Player is "out of production" and only offer the Duet.. I
was going to put a couple of more players in around the apartment but I
don't really need more than one controller. I feel ripped off! Did I bet
on the wrong horse (can you spell Sonos). Anyway, way off topic for
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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread erland

pippin;493905 Wrote: 
> 
> Like this:
> http://sonos.com/whattobuy/zoneplayers/s5/micro/default.aspx?lang=us
> 
Yes, but my point was that they can do that already today even though
it's developed by a third party developer. 

Would you complain if Logitech would include iPeng on the front page of
their marketing material ? 
If I remember correctly I think they already link to all the iPhone
applications somewhere on their web site.

Linking to something someone else has developed and still increase the
hardware sells of their own hardware seems like an optimal solution to
me. Why invest in software development if you can get someone else to do
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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread ModelCitizen

pippin;493905 Wrote: 
> 
> http://sonos.com/whattobuy/zoneplayers/s5/micro/default.aspx?lang=us
Wow, doesn't that look so straightforward?

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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread pippin

Without wanting to get into the rest of the discussion, two things:

1. I agree it would be a big and important advantage for Logitech if
they managed to capitalize more on the 3rd party developments; this
would include a more structured support to not demoralize people like
yourselves.
_I_ can't complain about bad support, though, also I, too, sometimes
write rants abou these things, expect the next one in January when I try
to catch up with the next round of last-minute-changes-to break-things
when 7.5 release dates move closer.
If you want to see a recent, good example on how to create a hype
around something like that:
http://www.boxee.tv/

2.
erland;493899 Wrote: 
> 
> How would they earn money on it ?
> 
Like this:
http://sonos.com/whattobuy/zoneplayers/s5/micro/default.aspx?lang=us


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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread erland

ajkidle;493532 Wrote: 
> I guess what I really mean to argue is that Logitech needs a formal
> branded iPhone/iPod app.
> 
Why ?
How would they earn money on it ?

As I see it today Logitech will earn money on iPeng (by selling more
Squeezeboxes) and they don't have to spend anything in support and
development costs besides a few minutes now and then when they support
third party developers. Third party development like this should really
be a win for Logitech.

I have no idea how much pippin has earned on iPeng but I suspect it's
not close to the time he has spent designing, developing and supporting
users who purchased it. I suspect the case would be the same for
Logitech if they maintained it. I strongly suspect there isn't a single
third party developer on the Squeezebox platform that has earned back
their investment in hours of time spent developing and supporting their
add-ons. Fortunately most third party developers don't do it for the
money. Still, I'd be much more afraid that iPeng would die in the hands
of Logitech than in the hands of the original developer.

I'm personally VERY impressed with iPeng and I know there are a lot of
design and development hours behind it, pippin really deserves all the
credit he gets.

Logitech should focus on making the software that runs on their own
hardware as good as possible and to make it interesting for third party
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Re: [slim] Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!

2009-12-09 Thread iPhone

Radrismo;493760 Wrote: 
> I realise who Sean is.  I am also a complete cynic that believes that
> even if its just firmware there is no way Sean is going to tell me, as
> its obvious from a business point of view these should not be in public
> hands and releasing this information would open up a potential back
> door.  
> 
> 

Of course I have not seen the inside of your unit, so I am assuming it
doesn't have everything needed to play tracks from a server (still
betting it doesn't).

If there was any way possible to get that DEMO unit working as a real
Squeezebox, trust me, Sean would tell you how to do it. The unit should
have never been sold in the first place and if it could be easily
converted, I believe Sean would have already told the others this has
happened to how to do it (if anybody could he could). 

This company and Sean go out of their way to help customers and users.


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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread rksingla

I have to say that I was being a bit facetious about Logitech hiring
Pippin.  I did not mean that literally, really.  My point was more that
(1) Controller was a disappointment compared to what a controller might
be; (2) Logitech seems to be ignoring the front end -- whether that
means a robust web UI or stand-alone applications --  which is more
important to the great mass of consumers than supporting every possible
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Re: [slim] SB3 Display Question

2009-12-09 Thread bstrulo

snarlydwarf;493864 Wrote: 
> It actually means it is 'mixable', not just with MusicIP.
> 
> You have some plugin which is setting the mixable flag on the track. 
> Try right-arrowing while on the track.

OK, that sounds right. I did install some plugins. But it only shows on
albums and artists, not on tracks, so right-arrow just takes me to the
tracks.

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Re: [slim] Newbee question : problem setting-up radio stream with asx extention (Lietuvos radija

2009-12-09 Thread bpa

I think the URLs only support mms transport which is not supported by
SBS.  The URL need to have http transport to work with
mysqueezebox.com.

If you are using your own SBS server on Windows then disable Windows
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Re: [slim] SB3 Display Question

2009-12-09 Thread snarlydwarf

bstrulo;493802 Wrote: 
> 
> Only I don't have MusicIP, and I have the plugin marked as "inactive". 
> I never have had MusicIP which explains why the symbol is new to me.
> 
> Maybe I should install it?
> 
> The symbol doesn't bother me, but I wonder why it has started to
> appear?

It actually means it is 'mixable', not just with MusicIP.

You have some plugin which is setting the mixable flag on the track. 
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Re: [slim] Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!

2009-12-09 Thread toby10

Unfortunately your problem is with the seller.  Was it listed as "I've
been using this SB3 for a while and upgraded to xx player" or is this a
wholesaler who buys and sells anything he can get his hands on (which I
suspect is the case as you say he sold several other SB3's).

If the seller claimed it was in use by himself then he's obviously a
BS'er.
Regardless, it's the sellers responsibility.  Do you have any recourse?
Can you dispute the sale through your payment processor?

You have pretty clear proof that the mfr of the item in question has
confirmed this is NOT an item ever intended for resale to dispute this
sale through proper channels.


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Re: [slim] Newbee question : problem setting-up radio stream with asx extention (Lietuvos radija

2009-12-09 Thread jmnil

Nobody can help me :(


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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Gone

2009-12-09 Thread bpa

I've reproduced the problem.  It will occur when there is no transcoding
support for both AAC and WMA - as is normal on ReadyNAS but will also
happen on Linux or OSX systems which are not "supported" by Logitech and
do not have "faad" installed.

I'll file a bug for it.  In the meantime all I can suggest is to save
and then edit the URLs of the stations you want to play as follows:
remove the "aac,"


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Re: [slim] Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!

2009-12-09 Thread Millwood

Radrismo;493760 Wrote: 
> I realise who Sean is.  I am also a complete cynic that believes that
> even if its just firmware there is no way Sean is going to tell me, as
> its obvious from a business point of view these should not be in public
> hands and releasing this information would open up a potential back
> door.  
> 

You obviously don't know who Sean is, in the sense of having watched
him build this product and interacting with him as it evolved.  To even
imply he would lie to you is unacceptable, and he deserves an apology.

He doesn't even work for/with the company any more, and yet he went to
the trouble of trying to help you and others who will get ripped off
this way.  Come on.

And to Sean - please don't let one bad apple sour you.  I was thrilled
to see that you still follow the forums and offer help when you can. 
Hope your new life is as much fun as the old one was.


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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Gone

2009-12-09 Thread nerieru

7.4.1 - r28947


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Re: [slim] last.fm

2009-12-09 Thread Rhyan

Zoltan;493279 Wrote: 
> - When I play my Recommended station on the Squeezebox, all I see are
> the song titles, not the artists.  This is OK when I know the song, but
> it is discovering new stuff that I might like which is one of the big
> appeals of this.  Is there any way I can get artist info? Anyway, when I
> first tried it, I thought 'oh well at least I can go online and see what
> was playing'...

Hi,

I'm experiencing the same problem on an SB3 as well (having only
recently had a go at Last.fm and addded the app).

Cycling through "Now playing" on my SB3 doesn't change the track title
to the artist, only the elapsed time and equaliser graphic.

I have, however, noticed that you can find out who the artist is by
accessing the squeezebox server via the web interface - it seems to
display all the track info there.

Would be interested to hear if you manage to find a way of displaying
this on the SB3, though, as it's not always conventient to get onto the
server! I'll be getting an iPod Touch around Christmas, so I'm hoping
that the ipeng app will display the information on there at least.

Is it me, or is the volume level from track to track quite variable?
Does anyone know how to deal with this (other than turning the volume of
my amp up and down as required!)?

Rhyan


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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Gone

2009-12-09 Thread bpa

Don't bother disabling WMA. 

If Groovesalad works on the URL I gave, that's good.  

You problem will occur with any station that offers AAC or AAC+ formats
as well as MP3 and/or WMA - which is usually true of the popular
stations. Groovesalad (in fact all SomafM stations) is one of those.

What version of SBS are you using ?  I'm testing with 7.5 so it will
not be exact the same as your situation.


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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Gone

2009-12-09 Thread nerieru

bpa;493824 Wrote: 
> I don't think disabling AAC is a solution as it will already be disabled
> on ReadyNAS (check WebUI Settings/Advanced/Filetypes- the solution is
> for SBS not to ask for AAC if it can't support it or at least not have
> AAC as the first choice.
> 
> That said, I don't think AAC disabled is full answer to the problem
> especially as GrooveSalad is not working for you. I was trying to test
> to recreate your problem and I found that WMA native had also to be
> disabled to get the problem.
> 
> WHat are your setting for WebUI Settings/Advanced/Filetypes/Windows
> Media  is native enabled or disabled ?

Both WMA's are set to native. I'll try disabling those.

Also groovesalad is working for me on the URL you provided, just not if
I search for it and then play it.


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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Gone

2009-12-09 Thread bpa

I don't think disabling AAC is a solution as it will already be disabled
on ReadyNAS (check WebUI Settings/Advanced/Filetypes- the solution is
for SBS not to ask for AAC if it can't support it or at least not have
AAC as the first choice.

That said, I don't think AAC disabled is full answer to the problem
especially as GrooveSalad is not working for you. I was trying to test
to recreate your problem and I found that WMA native had also to be
disabled to get the problem.

WHat are your setting for WebUI Settings/Advanced/Filetypes/Windows
Media  is native enabled or disabled ?


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Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.

2009-12-09 Thread Luke Redpath

mjm2705;493623 Wrote: 
> I bought the Squeemote ipod touch app (£4.99) before knowing that ipeng
> existed.  I love Squeemote apart from one thing, it doesn't seem to be
> able to disregard "The" in band names therefore all bands with "The"
> appear under 'T' in the alpha sort list !!!
> 
> Does ipeng do anything that should tempt me to spend more money (£5.99)
> ??

Hmm, this appears to be a regression; this was certainly fixed in an
earlier release. If you come across any bugs please do try and report
them on the Squeemote support site
(http://getsatisfaction.com/lukeredpath) as I won't always see them on
here.

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Re: [slim] 7.4.1 rebuffering woes

2009-12-09 Thread Mnyb

What is the file format ? it could be some transcoding process that
fails ?

To rule out the wifi temporarily wire the whole system both server and
player (player is small can be moved ), if it still is rebuffering,
*only then* can you suspect combination of OS and server version.
The is really no way forward until you have tested this

Which squeezebox what firmware is it on ? if and old SB3/2 is it set to
auto update ? if not did you press the brightness button to let it
upgrade ?

factory reset and xilink reset performed on the player ?


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Re: [slim] Scans seem slow? web, SBC ui slow? how to make them faster! vote for this bug!

2009-12-09 Thread bstrulo

I changed the mytt.  Sorry, I didn't bother to log scan times: they
don't usually bother me since I do them at night or when I'm not using
the SB.  I'll try to note them at some stage but not just now.

But the change in the Web UI was really noticeable.  I was so pleased I
pushed the innodb_buffer_pool_size up to 128M and still got some
noticeable improvements to responsiveness.  It changes the Web UI from
adequate, to pleasant to use.  Particular improvements to search and
random mix.

I've voted for the bug.


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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Gone

2009-12-09 Thread nerieru

Those work, is there anyway I can disable the AAC for streaming?

(I was able to disable it for fileformats, but that didn't have any
effect on the streaming.)


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Re: [slim] 7.4.1 rebuffering woes

2009-12-09 Thread DigitalMitch

I'm not familiar with Airport but you amy wish to compare to the
following

https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=14570

Nor am I familar with Mac OS and boxes.

The timing of the problem suggests

1) the new OS plus upgraded SBS has stretched mac too far
2) the new software has an issue
3) something else has happened simultaneously (typically nighbours
impacting wifi).

The process for nailing 2) is the same as 3) which is, unfortunately
tedious, systematic trouble shooting by changing one component at a
time.

typical tests (which aren't necessarily easy).

a) temporarily wire network to check wireless
b) drop back to old SBS on new OS
c) run server temporarily on a faster/bigger computer
d) watch meticuluously for parallel events (microwaves, background
processes)

the fact that OP is hanging is a more unusual fault than intermittant
rebuffering, if it is consistent then I'd call support. Sorry I can't
giv anything better.

P.S. how many/which players & which control mechanism?


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Re: [slim] SB3 Display Question

2009-12-09 Thread bstrulo

Ah-hah!

Only I don't have MusicIP, and I have the plugin marked as "inactive". 
I never have had MusicIP which explains why the symbol is new to me.

Maybe I should install it?

The symbol doesn't bother me, but I wonder why it has started to
appear?


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Re: [slim] SB3 Display Question

2009-12-09 Thread cblock

Well, that's an indication that the artist/album/track etc. is mixable
using MusicIP. Are you running MusicIP on your server?


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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Gone

2009-12-09 Thread bpa

Those are both AAC format streams but I think on ReadyNAS AAC
transcoding is not enabled so the streams won't play.

I think this is a bug in SBS as it should not be requesting an AAC
stream from RadioTime.  The AAC request is preventing you getting a
playable WMA streams.

So try using these URL instead.
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s17525&formats=mp3,wma,wmpro,wmvoice,wmvideo,ogg&partnerId=16

http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s48132&formats=mp3,wma,wmpro,wmvoice,wmvideo,ogg&partnerId=16


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[slim] SB3 Display Question

2009-12-09 Thread bstrulo

I've had an SB3 for quite a few years.

Recently I've noticed an oddity on the display.  I'm worried it's been
there all along and so I'm going to look like a wally.  But nothing
ventured, nothing gained, as they say...

So, on search or browse results screens, like if I press Music Library
> Artists I get a screen which says the artist in big letters and at the
top right it says 1 of 1000 (or whatever).   But just to the left of the
"1" is a funny little character that I don't understand.  It's always an
"m" with a line above and below.  Or maybe a 3-legged elephant being
made into a sandwich?  Or something?

Actually it doesn't always appear: for example, it doesn't for "All
Songs", nor if I Browse Music Folder.

It appears on the SB3 and also SoftSqueeze.

What does it mean?

And where's the documentation :-)


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Re: [slim] Radio URL

2009-12-09 Thread lrossouw

Yes it was windows.  So you are right.

Cheers
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Re: [slim] Think I've been ripped off - Squeezebox Classic Store Demo Unit.. Help!

2009-12-09 Thread lrossouw

Oops had a simultaneous post there.  The only point I can help you with
is that I a regular SB3 can work without the WiFi card. (wired of
course)


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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Gone

2009-12-09 Thread nerieru

bpa;493780 Wrote: 
> You need to note the playlist format as well the audio format as I know
> of one bug in relation to ASX playlist with non WMA streams.

what do you mean? (Rather how do I check them?)

Also updated my previous post a bit.


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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Gone

2009-12-09 Thread bpa

You need to note the playlist format as well the audio format as I know
of one bug in relation to ASX playlist with non WMA streams.


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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Gone

2009-12-09 Thread nerieru

bpa;493774 Wrote: 
> Well if the display is exactly as you indicated (i.e. no SomaFM on
> display ) and the same URL works OK when player is connected directly to
> mysb.com - then it indicates there is a problem with your SBS on
> ReadyNAS.
> 
> Since "70% of stations" work - you need to find out what is the common
> factor between the 30% of stations that don't work. 
> 
> A start would be to check the streams formats.  If you are unable -
> then provide a list of the URL the streams that don't work.

The 70% being a 'rough estimate' I'll compile a list of the used
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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Gone

2009-12-09 Thread bpa

Well if the display is exactly as you indicated (i.e. no SomaFM on
display ) and the same URL works OK when player is connected directly to
mysb.com - then it indicates there is a problem with your SBS on
ReadyNAS.

Since "70% of stations" work - you need to find out what is the common
factor between the 30% of stations that don't work. 

A start would be to check the streams formats.  If you are unable -
then provide a list of the URL the streams that don't work.


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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Gone

2009-12-09 Thread nerieru

bpa;493765 Wrote: 
> Looks like you have a network/router issue because if the URL had been
> fetched properly I think the title would have changed to "SomaFM: Groove
> Salad" and not just "Groovesalad".
> 
> Can your player connect to mysqueezebox.com ?

I don't think it is, because I can connect to 70% of the stations just
fine. And I can connect to mysqueezebox.com just fine as well. And the
same URL does work fine if I am connected to mysqueezebox.com

All the stations work when I am connected to mysqueezebox.com. But only
70% when I'm connected to the server.


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Re: [slim] Internet Radio Gone

2009-12-09 Thread bpa

Looks like you have a network/router issue because if the URL had been
fetched properly I think the title would have changed to "SomaFM: Groove
Salad" and not just "Groovesalad".

Can your player connect to mysqueezebox.com ?


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