Re: [slim] SB1 Audio Settings ...

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Herger
> does anyone know what is "neutral" when choosing Treble / Bass on the
> SB1?
> It just goes from 1 to 100... ??

Default values are 50.

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Re: [slim] Just 5 years and a bit less than 2 month Logitech has acquired Slim Devices

2011-12-13 Thread w3wilkes

>From this thread I guess I'm one of the few Duet fans that think this is
the ultimate SB. The biggest problem I've ever had was last spring when
the Avast 6 upgrade along with SB 7.5.3 and W7 sp1 threw me a curve
ball with a firewall issue. Other than that I'd say my Duets have both
performed flawlessly. Since I don't have a smartphone, ipod touch, or a
tablet and my stereo rack is somewhat out of sight, the Duets'
controller is the perfect solution for cruising through my music.


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2011-12-13 Thread bluegaspode

It's not even Christmas yet, who do you all have a Galaxy Nexus yet :D?

xiffy send me a lot of debug information yesterday so I will have a
closer look and if it doesn't help I'm afraid I have to get sn ICT
phone as well though I wouldn't have any use of it and hit hurts paying
such a lot money ...

Maybe he can also try to explain the steps he took here, I think he
found a solution now that kinda works.


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Re: [slim] Just 5 years and a bit less than 2 month Logitech has acquired Slim Devices

2011-12-13 Thread erland

ChrisNY;676545 Wrote: 
> It will be a sad day when my SB3 dies.  One of the things I cannot
> replicate on the Touch is the RSS feeds.  Since I have it next to my
> bed I am able to catch up on lots of newsfeeds as I head off to sleep,
> which is a calming way to end the day.  And it doesn't require any
> action on my part, as a tablet or netbook would.
> 
The third party Custom Clock applet on the Touch has somewhat support
for RSS feeds. You configure the RSS feed to show via the style
configuration in Custom Clock Helper plugin through SBS/LMS web
interface.

It's not as easy to setup and use as on the Classic but it might be
worth a try if you are missing this functionality on the Touch. You can
apply for a free 30 day evaluation license of Custom Clock while you
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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Music-Playback now on ANDROID! SqueezePlayer released to the market ...

2011-12-13 Thread Jeff Flowerday

Also confirming no connection being made on my galaxy nexus.

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Re: [slim] Just 5 years and a bit less than 2 month Logitech has acquired Slim Devices

2011-12-13 Thread raaurora

My Duet is almost 5 years old and almost zero issues even with all the
server upgrades.  I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.


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Re: [slim] Just 5 years and a bit less than 2 month Logitech has acquired Slim Devices

2011-12-13 Thread ChrisNY

azinck3;676334 Wrote: 
> Haha, it appears at the ripe old age of 29 I'm now an old fart -- "give
> me back my VFDs!!" :).  I guess I'm outvoted so far.  
> 

It will be a sad day when my SB3 dies.  One of the things I cannot
replicate on the Touch is the RSS feeds.  Since I have it next to my
bed I am able to catch up on lots of newsfeeds as I head off to sleep,
which is a calming way to end the day.  And it doesn't require any
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Re: [slim] Just 5 years and a bit less than 2 month Logitech has acquired Slim Devices

2011-12-13 Thread Recoveryone

I came on board about a year or so before logictech took over.  For me
the SB3 was a eye opening event, as I had suffered with much more
inferior products.  The only issuse I have ever had is with the
software, and it may have been as simple as just recommending low and
high point comp to run it.  I have used 4 different comp as my servers
from a PIII 700 hz w/512 mem, Laptop 1.2Ghz P4 w/1gig Ram, P4, P4
1.2Ghz w/750 ram and now P4 3ghz W/2gig Ram.  The last system is
running the LMS the best ever, but is overkill according to what is
able to run the LMS. Due to the clunky GUI of the past SBS it made
having a large collection a nightmare and creating playlists time
comsuming.  I had lesser poducts that were compatible with
J.River/Jukebox and MSMP right out the box.

I don't recommend SB's to the light hearted or computer novice, for you
will need above average skills to handle the small quirks that come up
with network issues, playback issues and my current problem that the
LMS shuts off on its own leaving me with blank SB's,  But when its
working its one of the most enjoyable times of my day/week.


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Re: [slim] Just 5 years and a bit less than 2 month Logitech has acquired Slim Devices

2011-12-13 Thread erland

AndreE;676185 Wrote: 
> Just 5 years and a bit less than 2 month Logitech has acquired Slim
> Devices
> http://www.logitech.com/en-us/172/2763
> 
> It was interesting discussion triggered after this renouncement with a
> lot of glory and concerns
> 
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821
> 
> What do you think about it? 
> What parts of that earlier discussions have become truth and what do
> you think was evaporating with the time passing by?
> 
It's pretty obvious that most of the worries either have or will become
the truth. The reason it's not already the case is mainly because there
are still some employees with the spirits from Slim Devices fighting
for the products. I believe several of the employees which have fought
for the products was actually hired thanks to the acquisition which
allowed them to increase the size of the Squeezebox team.

However, it's also important to realize that we aren't sure Slim
Devices would have survived the increased development costs during
Radio, Touch, Duet without the help of the economical strength from
Logitech. Slim Devices might have been bankrupt if they hadn't been
acquired by Logitech. 

One of the main reasons Radio, and possibly Touch, is selling pretty
good is probably because Logitech has succeeded to put them on the
shelves on the local stores all over the world, something that would
have been very hard for Slim Devices to do by themselves.

It's easy to say "I told you so..." but you also have to think about
what the alternative would have been, it could have been a lot worse
than what we have today.


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Re: [slim] "N" routers cause any problems with SB devices ?

2011-12-13 Thread swayzak

Thanks all

Picking up an O2 IV router for 15 squid tomorrow - seems a good deal :)


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android

2011-12-13 Thread flattermann

hunta;676501 Wrote: 
> I've also got a Galaxy Nexus, and everything seems fine except the
> Wake-On-LAN. Can anyone confirm whether it's a problem for them too?
> WOL via the SB itself or iPeng on an iPod Touch still works.

Ok, this should be fixed in the newest Beta now.

If not, please reopen ticket #534.

Thanks!

(I do not have a WOL capable server here, therefore I cannot test it
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[slim] still no pandora for my classics

2011-12-13 Thread citabria327

pandora does not show up on my sq ctr..my classics don't connect anymore
to slimserver...i tried to delete the software i have and reload newly
downloaded versions...same result...thanks


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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] Squeezeslave: 1.0 released

2011-12-13 Thread dmce

Hi Folks

Where would i create a config file on arch for the servername etc? Can
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Re: [slim] "N" routers cause any problems with SB devices ?

2011-12-13 Thread SuperQ

Nope, no problems with G devices on N routers.


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Re: [slim] KEXP uncompressed

2011-12-13 Thread demichej

THANK YOU! Worked like a charm.

To re-cap, with AlienBBC being dead, you need a different plugin called
PlayWMA found in the Plugins section of the Logitech Media Server (new
name) settings. You'll also need mplayer if you don't have that
installed. Also, don't forget to disable the Windows Media > Windows
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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android

2011-12-13 Thread flattermann

hunta;676501 Wrote: 
> I've also got a Galaxy Nexus, and everything seems fine except the
> Wake-On-LAN. Can anyone confirm whether it's a problem for them too?
> WOL via the SB itself or iPeng on an iPod Touch still works.

Confirmed, thanks!

This will be fixed very soon in the Beta:

http://www.squeezecommander.com/trac/ticket/534


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Re: [slim] "N" routers cause any problems with SB devices ?

2011-12-13 Thread rbz5416

I had an issue with the Billion 7800N & SB2/3/Classic where the router
appeared to poll the SB when the server was off, causing the display to
wake every few minutes with an error. That was just an inconvenience
though, there were no problems with streaming.

I now run a Touch in place of the older devices & because it has it's
own clock, it can maintain the display when the server is off so the
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Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android

2011-12-13 Thread hunta

flattermann;676332 Wrote: 
> Thanks, I also have an ICS device now and will try to reproduce this
> ASAP.
> 
> To be honest, I haven't tried the download feature with ICS yet.
> But I was happy that everything else seems to work fine... :-)
> 
> Gesendet von meinem Galaxy Nexus mit Tapatalk

I've also got a Galaxy Nexus, and everything seems fine except the
Wake-On-LAN. Can anyone confirm whether it's a problem for them too?
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Re: [slim] "N" routers cause any problems with SB devices ?

2011-12-13 Thread regalma1

I switched to a NetGear N WiFi set up last year. The change over was
transparent as far as my then SB II was concerned. No issues with my
Touch either. Though I am using them both with the ethernet. I run the
server on my laptop which is set up with a wireless connection.


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Re: [slim] KEXP uncompressed

2011-12-13 Thread bpa

I think in this case the PlayWMA might replace the AlienBBC
functionality you needas it has the "WMA thro mplayer" part of
AlienBBc.


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Re: [slim] "N" routers cause any problems with SB devices ?

2011-12-13 Thread jfo

My Boom is fine on a Dlink DIR632 N router.


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[slim] "N" routers cause any problems with SB devices ?

2011-12-13 Thread swayzak

Hi

I'm thinking of upgrading my b/g router to "n" (as I have some N
compatible devices that might benefit), but gather that -some- b/g
devices can become unreliable on "n" networks.

Does any one run Duet and/or Booms on "n" network without issues ?


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Re: [slim] Just 5 years and a bit less than 2 month Logitech has acquired Slim Devices

2011-12-13 Thread swayzak

The Duet was purchased to be pretty much the centre of my musical
universe at home (300GB library, 3+ tracks), along with Booms in
bedroom & kitchen.

And it pretty much still is - I love it.

Most of my music Lame VBR preset extreme encoded (average bitrate 256)
mp3, so I probably wouldn't be regarded as an "audiophile" - but it all
sounds great to me through my hifi & big Cerwin-Vega AT-60s !

Duet has been very reliable, although probably not as solid as the
Booms (this may be something to with the fact my Booms are always on or
in standyby whereas the Duet is shutdown & unplugged every night.

Definitely not a "mistake" as far as I'm concerned. But others here
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Re: [slim] KEXP uncompressed

2011-12-13 Thread demichej

I was really excited when I found this forum page. However, it looks
like we are playing a different ballgame now. I have followed the
instructions here, but the Alien plugin is apparently dead and is
replaced by the BBC iPlayer plugin.

So I tried installing the BBC iPlayer plugin (I have mplayer installed
and I disabled the Native WMA).but it doesn't work.

Anyone have new suggestions for KEXP Uncompressed? I am on the
SqueezeServer 7.7 now.

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[slim] SB1 Audio Settings ...

2011-12-13 Thread appeland

Hello.
does anyone know what is "neutral" when choosing Treble / Bass on the
SB1?
It just goes from 1 to 100... ??
Ta.
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Re: [slim] Can someone explain ITouch control of the Squeezecenter? IPeng? Anything else?

2011-12-13 Thread garym

NeilF;676462 Wrote: 
> And iPeng does NOT need itunes does it!

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Re: [slim] Can someone explain ITouch control of the Squeezecenter? IPeng? Anything else?

2011-12-13 Thread NeilF

Pascal Hibon;676445 Wrote: 
> Logitech also has an app for the iPhone / iPod Touch. If you want to try
> it, the Logitech app is free but it is no match for iPeng. 
> iPeng is well worth the "investment".

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Re: [slim] IPv6 - is this going to cause problems of my SB devices ?

2011-12-13 Thread garym

Short answer. No.


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[slim] IPv6 - is this going to cause problems of my SB devices ?

2011-12-13 Thread swayzak

Hi

I've vaguely heard about this being introduced & that a lot of legacy
devices won't be upgraded to use it.

Will this affect home networks running Booms / Duets (either via LMS or
MySB.com) ?

Or is it backwards compatible with IPv4 enabled devices

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Re: [slim] Transfer audio from one player to another

2011-12-13 Thread MeSue

You shouldn't need a plug-in for this, though. I have "Other Players"
but I hardly ever need to use it.
kiteman;676404 Wrote: 
> 
> At the moment if I sync the two, when I stop the livingroom controller
> it stops the study. I want to be able to keep the study playing.

This doesn't happen to me. I turn synced players off and on all the
time and turning one off does not stop playback on the others. Isn't
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Re: [slim] Can someone explain ITouch control of the Squeezecenter? IPeng? Anything else?

2011-12-13 Thread Pascal Hibon

Logitech also has an app for the iPhone / iPod Touch. If you want to try
it, the Logitech app is free but it is no match for iPeng. 
iPeng is well worth the "investment".


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Re: [slim] Can someone explain ITouch control of the Squeezecenter? IPeng? Anything else?

2011-12-13 Thread aubuti

It's also worth looking at Logitech's app for the iPhone and iPod Touch
(I don't know if they have a separate one for the iPad). It's not as
full featured as iPeng, but it is free. And the interface closely
mimics that of the SB Touch, Radio and SqueezePlay -- that could be a
good thing or a bad thing, depending on your point of view.


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Re: [slim] Can someone explain ITouch control of the Squeezecenter? IPeng? Anything else?

2011-12-13 Thread Squeezed_Rotel

NeilF;676439 Wrote: 
> I believe there's iPeng as an app you can buy?
> 
> Are there any other alternatives worth considering?

I use both iPeng and Squeezepad on my iPad...love them both. They are
both avaiable from iTunes website.


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with both SqueezePad & iPeng for controllers. Transporter => Rotel
RC1070 preamp => Rotel RB1080 2 channel amp => Bowers & Wilkins 805
Speakers.

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Re: [slim] Can someone explain ITouch control of the Squeezecenter? IPeng? Anything else?

2011-12-13 Thread garym

NeilF;676439 Wrote: 
> I believe there's iPeng as an app you can buy?
> 
> Are there any other alternatives worth considering?

Ipeng  is the gold standard for iTouch or iPhone.


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[slim] Can someone explain ITouch control of the Squeezecenter? IPeng? Anything else?

2011-12-13 Thread NeilF

I believe there's iPeng as an app you can buy?

Are there any other alternatives worth considering?


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Re: [slim] OMG Awesome set up with googletv

2011-12-13 Thread FredFredrickson

Tried it last night, yeah, you can use the mouse button to drag menus,
but it is clunky. I'll stick to search for now.

Still great to have that interface on my TV!

Sidenote: Rhapsody Channels don't let you skip song on the Logitech
controller app. This isn't expected behavior..


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Re: [slim] constant message to upgrade to 7.7.0

2011-12-13 Thread aubuti

dbinder101;676247 Wrote: 
> Thank you, that did it...EXCEPT...when I want to listen to  MOG it
> automatically switches to mysb.com, so it looks like I have to live
> with this nagging problem?
I imagine the reason is that SBS 7.6.2 doesn't support MOG. If you want
to use MOG without connecting to mysb.com then you have to upgrade your
local server to LMS 7.7.x, which is the first version with MOG support.


In short, if you want the new features (eg, MOG), then you need to run
the new software.


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Re: [slim] OMG Awesome set up with googletv

2011-12-13 Thread maggior

mherger;676419 Wrote: 
> > Could you make it so that the button under the d-pad would simulate a
> > finger touching (a click essentially) and simultaneously swiping
> with
> > another finger?
> 
> Swiping is emulated by holding the "mouse button" (button below
> touch-pad, not d-pad!) and moving the mouse. But it's awkward, and can
> hardly be done single-handed.
> 
> Michael

OK, that's what I was thinking about - the wide button underneath the
touch pad (got my terms mixed up - not sure what the d-pad is then).

Unless I'm missing something, it should be easy to do single handed. 
Holding down the button with you right thumb, you should easily be able
to swipe with a finger.  Maybe it's because I use a laptop so much and
I'm used to doing drag-n-drop with a touch pad a lot.

I'll check it out tonight.


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Rich
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Touch, SqueezeCommander on Xoom.  SuSE 11.0 Server running
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Re: [slim] OMG Awesome set up with googletv

2011-12-13 Thread pippin

maggior;676351 Wrote: 
> You've got to be kidding!  I'm new to the whole android thing and I have
> to say that I'm less than impressed with how timely Google releases
> OS's.

Obviously. If you weren't new to Android you were used to it...
Also don't ever expect to get more than a single OS update for a device
rendering them useless after a year. Latest.

Welcome to the Android world.


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Re: [slim] OMG Awesome set up with googletv

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Herger
> Could you make it so that the button under the d-pad would simulate a
> finger touching (a click essentially) and simultaneously swiping with
> another finger?

Swiping is emulated by holding the "mouse button" (button below touch-pad, not 
d-pad!) and moving the mouse. But it's awkward, and can hardly be done 
single-handed.

As the Revue comes with a full keyboard, it's probably easiest to just rely on 
search instead of browsing. Just hit the Search key on the keyboard to get to 
the search mask.

Unfortunately play/pause key mappings seem to have changed in a later state, 
thus the app's key mapping doesn't work for those two. Volume, fwd/rwd, Search, 
Back and Menu (jump to the app's home menu) should be fine.

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Re: [slim] Just 5 years and a bit less than 2 month Logitech has acquired Slim Devices

2011-12-13 Thread bernt

azinck3;676334 Wrote: 
> haha, it appears at the ripe old age of 29 i'm now an old fart -- "give
> me back my vfds!!" :).  I guess i'm outvoted so far.  
> 
> I actually think the sb3's have, and will, age better than the
> lcd-based players.  The lcd-based stuff looks like many other plasticky
> computer gizmos and is already starting to look a little old (relatively
> small, low-res screens) whereas the sb3's have the metal accents and the
> displays make them look more like stereo equipment and thus a little
> more timeless, imho.  Now, if we're talking slimp3 thru sb2, then yes,
> i agree those look rather old (they weren't especially good-looking
> even when new!).
> 
> I guess i'm in the minority when i say that the ir remote is still my
> #1 favorite way to control my squeezeboxen.


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Re: [slim] Just 5 years and a bit less than 2 month Logitech has acquired Slim Devices

2011-12-13 Thread Soulkeeper

When it comes to looks, SB3 is the champion of the Squeezeboxen so far.
I hope a next generation Touch will arrive, looking more like the SB3.


With some aluminium on front, a glass-like screen much broader than 4:3
format, and with the option of simple, clean, large, scrolling text for
the "now playing" info. (I guess 'nixie tubes'
(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixie_tube) are out of the question, huh?)


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Re: [slim] Transfer audio from one player to another

2011-12-13 Thread Mnyb

or the "other player" plugin .

With that one you can both send and grab playlists from other players


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Re: [slim] Transfer audio from one player to another

2011-12-13 Thread Soulkeeper

"Switch Player" is a must for everyone who has more than one Squeezebox.
:) LMS should include it by default IMO.


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Re: [slim] Transfer audio from one player to another

2011-12-13 Thread kiteman

Perfect :)

Thanks for that


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Re: [slim] Transfer audio from one player to another

2011-12-13 Thread Gerry123

Enable "All 3rd party plugins" at the bottom of the plugin screen and it
should appear.


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Re: [slim] Transfer audio from one player to another

2011-12-13 Thread kiteman

Thanks for the quick reply, but I don't seem to have the switch player
plugin.

Had a quick look through the Logitech Media Server repositories and
can't find it in there either.


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Re: [slim] Transfer audio from one player to another

2011-12-13 Thread pippin

Enable the "Switch Player" plugin in "Settings->Plugins" in the web
interface.


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[slim] Transfer audio from one player to another

2011-12-13 Thread kiteman

Is there a way to transfer what I'm playing on my livingroom controller
to the one in the study, then be able to turn the livingroom controller
off and still have the audio playing in the study.

At the moment if I sync the two, when I stop the livingroom controller
it stops the study. I want to be able to keep the study playing.


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