[slim] whats up yall
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[slim] A big THANK YOU to everyone
I want to express my Thank You to everyone who contributed over the years to the creation and development of the Squeezebox product line. I was looking for CD changers/jukebox type arrangements and had found nothing suitable, then I found you. It was love at first sight. Your system changed my life and my home in ways and to an extent I never could have imagined. I think some people are deserving of special thanks. The names I know are ones who have had the most visibility here, like Michael, Andy, Ben, (and I'm sorry, I know there are others). These guys all cared enough to keep working hard to improve the products and system capabilities under less than ideal circumstances. We've all greatly benefited from that. In their spare time (that's a joke), they also worked to help present the right kind of company-to-user interactions, of a kind that probably wouldn't have happened otherwise. They always were helpful in dealing with some of SB's most enthusiastic users, those here in these forums. They all also have done everything possible to keep carrying the flag forward under what's likely been very difficult and frustrating circumstances, even while seemingly taking friendly fire to do so. Then there were the multitudes of others, those who made contributions from outside the company and remained outside. People like Erland, Pippin, bpa, and many others (again sorry for names omitted) whose passions sparked ideas and capabilities that so many have come to rely upon and enjoy. Also, there were so many of y'all who funneled your SB enthusiasm into providing the company testing and feedback help. I've got my spare units and multiple backup copies of server software squirreled away, I should be able to maintain the status quo I want for many years to come. I'd like to say one last thanks to all of you and good luck and best wishes for the future. Goodsounds's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96322 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How many of you have spare squeezeboxes?
1 SB3 classic, which was replaced by a Touch, is now my only spare unit. I'm looking for another Touch and I'm waiting for people giving up the sequeezebox series, once the news have been spreaded wide. But probably a lot of other people are thinking similar ;) cege's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20366 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96198 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Now the Squeezebox is dead, what would your next system be? And why?
firedog wrote: The whole point of the new software is to eliminate the local server. So features like local synch of local music files, and random play go out the window. I think for the future customers of Logitech this makes sense; it just doesn't work for the existing SB customers. If you are basing your architecture on the cloud and the assumption that users are accessing your software with a wireless device like a phone or a tablet, then there isn't much of an incentive to have audiophile SQ and features. Indeed, and the provision of a device with digital audio out may make some of the companies operating on-line streaming services more nervous about agreeing to work with the new system. Even though content owners have relented on some aspects of DRM they would still prefer for there to be no way to obtain a flawless digital copy of their content. So why would Logitech develop a riskier product that has much more limited appeal than something like the radio? Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2 Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96191 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How long have your SB's lasted?
Here's my purchase history: Nov 2006 - SB3 Dec 2009 - Boom Aug 2010 - SB3 and Boom Oct 2010 - Boom Aug 2011 - Boom All of these are still working perfectly and I am obviously hoping they do so for some years to come. Of the SB3s one is Logitech branded and black, the other SlimDevices branded and sliver. The earlier purchase was from an on-line retailer and the later one from eBay so I suspect the earlier purchase was a new one with Logitech branding and the later purchase for a used one with the SlimDevices branding. Looking back over that I remember buying the first SB3 on recommendation from someone at work because I had bought a new house and the PC was no longer close to the HiFi. The first boom was when our daughter first had her own bedroom and I wanted to be able to play our music collection in her bedroom. 2010 was buying another new house, setting up a home office with some bookshelf speakers and one SB3 and the other Boom in our bedroom and after that it was just putting them in rooms that did not have one so we can now listen is any room of the house except the bathroom. Fozzy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96314 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How long have your SB's lasted?
I ordered my first SliMP3 on November 22, 2002. It still works just fine, although I have no idea where the remote went. pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96314 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
simbo wrote: It may be possible to create a set of latency/timing profiles for specific hardware configurations (simple ones, like a Pi + a particular model of sound dongle). These would need to be maintained by the community, but would also need some support from the player software to allow these different profiles to be loaded. There was a guy in the XBMC forum a few weeks ago who was planning to order a whole bunch of teeny little ARM+HDMI systems, about the same size as a USB stick, from some bold Chinese manufacturer who was up for doing 1000-unit production runs. I should go check how that all turned out... pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
A raspberry Pi solution means a case, psu, wifi etc has to be sourced and so could be a lot of hassle and not for many end users. If price is an issue, there are lots of Allwinner A10 based systems and as a possible Squeezebox replacement I think the Mele A100 looks good. For about US$80 (from aliexpress.com) it needs a PSU but is already boxed and has analogue audio, spdif, hdmi, wifi, IR control and 3 USB ports (see http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv7/mele-a100). It would need to be tested to see the quality of audio but USB provides opportunity for using better quality adaptors. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Shouldn't we have an UE Radio forum?
pallfreeman wrote: The Mrs. is Scouse. I'm calmly trying to protect my investment. I don't suppose an alternative POV will make much difference, but they came for the Jews first. They came for the Communists first, then the others later castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Shouldn't we have an UE Radio forum?
aubuti wrote: Then you're thinking too hard, and overlooking the huge share of companies (especially public companies) that focus on short-term profits. No, I fully understand that today for many, many companies (unfortunately) it is only the next quarter's results that matter. I was being as generous as possible in saying that all companies worry about profit at some level (and I'd say the best companies worry about long-term vs only short-term profit). But yes, I agree with your point. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
I'll check that Mele out. In the meantime someone on the RPi forum has already ported LMS and Squeezeslave within the framework of Raspbian. A quote: This how-to guide also includes setting up Squeezeslave, a Squeezebox client. Squeezebox server and Squeezeslave can coexist on the same Raspberry Pi so at the end of this how-to guide you will have a device that can also play the music it serves. See thread here: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=38t=10666 Intro: http://allthingspi.webspace.virginmedia.com/ How to: http://allthingspi.webspace.virginmedia.com/lms.php Gadgety1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
Surely a few knowledgeable folk could make a bit on the side setting up cottage industries to sell ready configured hardware to the likes of me? I ain't proud and I ain't fussy. A small hideaway box that did all the necessaries would suite me very nicely. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A big THANK YOU to everyone
Well said. A lot of negativity at the moment, which is well justified IMO, but I agree that some really talented people have massively improved my enjoyment of music. Not without it's faults, and at times I have felt like throwing it out of the window, but on the whole my Squeezeboxes are the best things I ever bought. Here's to the future :) Thank you. autopilot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1763 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96322 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
Gadgety1 wrote: I'll check that Mele out. Amazon UK has the A2000 for 75 quid. pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How many of you have spare squeezeboxes?
jp73 wrote: I just bought 2 SB3 classics, new in box just as spares... wow - they have been as rare as rocking horse sh*t - especially new. A good buy - many believe they were the best. I just picked up a touch and radio, so I am done - can't see me needing to change or buy anything else now for 5+ years. yeomanspc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=249 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96198 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A big THANK YOU to everyone
.. they have all done a wonderful job - have had my musical experience completely transformed by these guys gals. Thank you for writing this Thank You note too .. a pleasure to join it! Andrew sherington's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96322 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A big THANK YOU to everyone
If it weren't for people like Ben, Michael, Andy, Dean, Felix, Richard, Sean, etc., I think the squeezebox would have withered much sooner than this. Ben gave us a glimpse in a recent posting of the inner workings of the team and how they championed the Squeezebox and stayed true to the cause. Ben even compared the situation to watching your dog die as bad decisions were being made regarding the product line. These guys were obviously passionate about their work and the product line. It was an amazing experience to be involved in the community during the product's rise and hayday. Along with Goodsounds, I'd like to express my sincere gratitude too! You guys created an awesome system for music lovers like myself! This system will continue to give myself and my family great joy for much time to come. Thank you! maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96322 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A big THANK YOU to everyone
Thank you, goodsounds, for creating this thread. I wholeheartedly agree with what you have written. JohnB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96322 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Hi I'm having a weird problem using squeezecommander on my HTC Desire Z when connecting via 3G I have a dyndns.org hostname, and I have configured my router to forward port 9001 to my server correctly (I'm using port 9001 as I use 9000 for Twonky) Now I can connect to the web interface on my phone, I can see what's playing and control my player OK so it all seems to be working OK. However the main music menu in Squeezecommander just never loads. I only have search and settings as menu items. Clicking search will even let me find and play music but the other menus (artists etc) never load. The now playing views and control of my player also works OK. I just can't browse music. My server shows twice in the list of servers, once for my Dyndns address and once for the local IP address. When connected via WiFi the dyndns entry shows as a duplicate and I get a message already connected to the server! Please us the local server Joggler Music I tried ignoring the local server and then connnecting to the Dyndns server and weirdly I am unable to connect to the Dyndns entry when I am connected to my local network. I get an error message flash up of java.net.ConnectException: mydyndnsname.dyndns.org/176.xxx.xxx.xxx:9001 - Connection refused the x's in that message are my Internet IP address and the mydyndnsname is my host name. I've tried the open source squeezer android app which although very basic does let me control and browse no problem connecting via dyndns so altogether I'm a little confused. jimbobvfr400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
Labarum wrote: Surely a few knowledgeable folk could make a bit on the side setting up cottage industries to sell ready configured hardware to the likes of me? I find it difficult to see the economics working out for a cottage industry. The basic spec of the unit looks good but for a cottage industry (i.e. selling 100's) using a ready made box may not be the best way. For example, the A100 seems to be unavailable now. To guarantee supply you need bigger numbers. I expect the users to be SB users and so audio quality might be an issue which means bundling in a USB audio i/f. So for a cottage industry The A100/A1000/A2000 approach might be better if enduse buys box from Amazon and then cottage industry was selling a SD card which does all the system setup (i.e replace Android with Linux + a soft player). However with this approiach there is no opportunity to get any returns. I think the cottage industry is only vaiable when there is a USP or secret sauce such as hardware with good audio and a good clock necessary for sync or perhaps a better software player with custm s/w which has managed to get agreement from a Music streamer to play the streams bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
It's a shame the O2 Jogglers ('OpenFrame7'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?64373-OpenFrame-remote-for-SB))
are so hard to come by nowadays.
I have one, 'running SqueezePlay'
(http://birdslikewires.co.uk/articles/squeezeplay-os). The only downside
is the poor quality internal sound (with headphone socket) but I believe
some people have attached audio dongles instead. In effect it's a Touch
with a 7-inch screen.
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Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
The Asus O!Play boxes seem to have all the required connectors, and they're easily hackable. But it looks like they've already been and gone. pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
One of the nice things about the Allwinner A10 based systems is that they can be restored using USB and a Windows PC so supposedly impossible to brick which can be an issue with repurposing other media players. This A10 system ( http://store.cloudsto.com/android-mini-pc-s/a10-media-pc-8gb-nand-1gb-ddr3-ram-detail.html ) is a bit dear has 1Mb Ram (not sure how much GPU takes) but it would seem possible to run a server as well as a player for when mysb.com goes away. Given the pace of development it is likely that this spec would become the norm for next years products. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
simbo wrote:
It's a shame the O2 Jogglers ('OpenFrame7'
(http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?64373-OpenFrame-remote-for-SB))
are so hard to come by nowadays.
I have one, 'running SqueezePlay'
(http://birdslikewires.co.uk/articles/squeezeplay-os). The only downside
is the poor quality internal sound (with headphone socket) but I believe
some people have attached audio dongles instead. In effect it's a Touch
with a 7-inch screen (and a crappy sound chip).
I'm currently using 3 of them as players, one of them is also running
LMS serving my music stored on a NAS. I've soldered a S-PDIF optical
socket directly to the motherboard therfore bypassing the internal sound
chip. Excellent little gadgets.
Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk 2
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Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
Mnyb wrote: SqueePlay on pc does not sync very well in all possible hardware combinations re sound hardware and OS quirks ? Last time I checked (which to be fair was about two years ago) synching with squeezeslave worked fine (ss with ss and ss with sb). The Pi is SS, so maybe a non-issue? bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bobkoure wrote: Last time I checked (which to be fair was about two years ago) synching with squeezeslave worked fine (ss with ss and ss with sb). The Pi is SS, so maybe a non-issue? I think you were just lucky with your hardware config! simbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11481 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
bpa wrote: This A10 system ( http://store.cloudsto.com/android-mini-pc-s/a10-media-pc-8gb-nand-1gb-ddr3-ram-detail.html ) is a bit dear has 1Mb Ram 1Gb. :) Thanks for that URL. These are the products that the XBMC doods were raving about last time I visited their forum. pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
simbo wrote: I think you were just lucky with your hardware config! LOL. I can't even get my SliMP3s to sync correctly with my SBs using recent versions of LMS. pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A big THANK YOU to everyone
6 radios and 1 boom give me music all through my house and outside. While I do still wish radios were stereo, I can't argue that they have a great performance for the formfactor. On the whole, been very happy with my squeezeboxes, and can't really see any other product with the flexibility to replace it for everything it can do. Occasionally, I see someone's ultra high end home audio system and feel EXTREMELY smug knowing that I can do MORE with my squeezeboxes, LMS, and my ipad and andriod tablets as controllers. Poor rest of the world who is stuck streaming music from their iphones to bluetooth speakers (which probably makes even the radio sound good by comparison) and watching their iphone battery drain. I still can't grasp why logitech would continue with an incompatible UE radio and lose such a valuable ecosystem, but that's a subject for other threads. Not going anywhere for the next few years, that's for sure. rcampbel3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96322 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
It seems there is no shortage of boxes we can press into service. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
Labarum wrote: It seems there is no shortage of boxes we can press into service. without concern about ability to sync multiple players or connect to paid music services, there is an almost unlimited number of choices for playing digital music to one's home stereo. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
garym wrote: without concern about ability to sync multiple players or connect to paid music services, there is an almost unlimited number of choices for playing digital music to one's home stereo. Yes, I know. Great for me. I am only interested in playing my own collection and streaming a few favourite radio stations. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
Labarum wrote: Yes, I know. Great for me. I am only interested in playing my own collection and streaming a few favourite radio stations. yep. Worst case for me is as someone else here already noted: I'll have to select between two inputs on my preamp: one for playing my own music/free internet radio and one for [fill in the blank, sonos?] for playing other services. As noted, like going back in time and having to select between tuner and turntable or CD. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A big THANK YOU to everyone
I agree with the general topic and I'm both impressed and thankful to the great work and patience everyone both inside Logitech and in the community has shown during the past years, it's also important to remember that this community is not just about developers, I also want to thank all active, helpful and thoughtful forum members who makes it worth to come back here day after day to see what new interesting posts there are. I'm not going to mention any names because the forum has a limit of number of characters in each post, but thanks to everyone that come back here day after day with a positive attitude wanting to make the system better and most importantly wanting to help other users making their system work better. However, having said that, I don't look at this as the end, Logitech might have stopped selling the Squeezebox product but I'm definitely still interested in improving my music listening experience and I'm sure I'm not alone. So to me it really doesn't feel like this is the end, it's the start of a new exciting journey of finding a better way to enjoy the music. The future will tell who will take the lead but I'm definitely going to stick around in this community because it wouldn't surprise me at all if the future journey starts right here, especially considering all creative third party developers available here who now have the chance to take the lead instead of waiting for Logitech to do it. So, let's try to keep this community active and let's keep encourage the creativity among all third party developers and let's continue being helpful to users with problems. Let's all be part of the next journey to musical bliss, I'm definitely ready for the ride! erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96322 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
garym wrote: without concern about ability to sync multiple players or connect to paid music services, there is an almost unlimited number of choices for playing digital music to one's home stereo. At a guess, some user will not be happy with the analogue and spdif interfaces on these boxes as they will not have been designed for discriminating users. Support of USB DAC would be the key issue. Given the difficulty that Triode had with Touch getting DACs to work propers with Touch - a developer might make some revenue by creating a satisfactory kernel and driver although given open licenses it might be hard to be able to keep the changes secret. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
Anybody looked at the options from Linn, Cyrus and Naim? All of then offer music streamers which will play your local music collection and Internet radio via Ethernet and/or WiFi. I think some of them also offer other services like Spotify. Just wondering how these compare to SqueezeBox hardware. Obviously they all stream but do they offer all the features found in LMS and iPeng app? Linn actually abandoned making CD players a few years ago to consentrate on streaming devices. But they do carry a very big price tag. norderney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezePlay for Mac OSX
I've created an OSX i386 and x86_64 only build with the ability to select the output device and set the maximum sample rate. It is based on the 7.8 branch Jul 17, 2012 git check in which I've exported back to subversion as I really dislike git. The 'OSX intel port' (http://squeezeslave.googlecode.com/files/SqueezePlay-7.8.0r142.dmg) has been tested with 10.6 and 10.7. Mountain Lion has not been tested as I don't have a Mac running it. This version plays 24/96 wave and flac files natively using the latest LMS 7.8.0 nightly. The maximum sample rate can be set as high as 192000 in the USEPAMAXSAMPLERATE key, see below, but I haven't tested it, any value higher defaults to 192000. Installation? Mount the SqueezePlay-7.8.0r142.dmg disk image file and drag the SqueezePlay.app icon to Applications. How do I change the output device and/or maximum sample rate? Create a file called environment.plist in your home directory in the .MacOSX folder. You may need to create the .MacOSX folder. So the full path to my file is /Users/ralphy/.MacOSX/environment.plist Code: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC -//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd; plist version=1.0 dict keyUSEPADEVICE/key stringSennheiser USB Headset/string keyUSEPAMAXSAMPLERATE/key string96000/string /dict /plist To obtain the list of available output devices that can be used for the USEPADEVICE key you can download 'squeezeslave for OSX' (http://squeezeslave.googlecode.com/files/squeezeslave-1.2-376-osx.tar.gz), extract the tar file and run squeezeslave with the -L option. Code: $ ./squeezeslave-1.2-376 -L Output devices: * 1: (Core Audio) Built-in Output (2/12) 2: (Core Audio) Sennheiser USB Headset (2/13) You can see how I obtained the exact match for my Headset. Once you've finished editing the environment.plist file you MUST logout and log back in before the keys will be available to SqueezePlay. You can check if the values have been set from the Terminal App. Code: $ set | grep -i usepa USEPADEVICE='Sennheiser USB Headset' USEPAMAXSAMPLERATE=96000 Hopefully this works for the Mountain Lion folks to override the new AirPlay default output devices. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96328 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
norderney wrote: But they do carry a very big price tag. Not going there - it's rip off country. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplay Mountain Lion Install
I've created an OSX build of squeezeplay with the ability to set the output device and max sample rate. See 'this post' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96328-ANNOUNCE-SqueezePlay-for-Mac-OSXp=716200) for details. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95892 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplay Mountain Lion Install
Cool! Thanks! pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95892 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Shouldn't we have an UE Radio forum?
erland wrote: Currently a success of UE Smart Radio is the biggest chance that Logitech will continue to maintain the Squeezebox server/firmware as it's pretty similar to UE Smart Radio Prexactly! I don't think I will buy into the new products, they're not really the thing for me, but I think there is some method to the madness in the new concept and I believe it could be what it takes for some of the SB DNA to survive in the long run in a world that is vastly different than the one SB was born into. The UE stuff will have to pay for any support we hope to get for our SBs. That's not to say we should act like Logitech fanboys or do the marketing for Logitech in hope of drumming up large sales, but stubbornly trying to obstruct their efforts would be counteractive (and also futile). alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
simbo wrote: I think you were just lucky with your hardware config! Hmmm... 1 - old-ish athalon box w winxp pro 2 - core duo laptop w winxp pro 3 - sb3 1 and 2 were hardly high end gear. I think this was with 7.3 or 7.4. Are synchronization problems a new thing? bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
Labarum wrote: Not going there - it's rip off country. I agree, despite owning some fantastic Naim amps. Streaming is computer technology - there is nothing mystical about it that needs hi-fi expertise. Buy one of their DACs if you wish, or an amp with an inbuilt DAC, but just plug a SB Touch into it. The sound quality is dependent on the DAC - the digital out from the SB is just a stream of noughts and ones. BTW, the DACs in the SB devices aren't half bad for a start. Never felt the need to go down the separate DAC route myself. But then my hearing is the limiting factor these days! TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
Synchronization problems with software players is a very old thing. Been around since squeezeslave and SoftSqueeze (remember that) were babies. The lucky config generally isn't as simple as CPU and RAM. It's the things that get in the middle such as soundcard drivers that often cause the latencies that make sync'ing of software players difficult. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Please let me know what firmware I need to keep copies of and where to find them.
Hi I know this has probably been covered but could someone let me know on this thread please. I have two SB Touch (one of which is sealed), one SB Radio and SBS on a ReadyNas Duo. All bar the sealed Touch are operating on latest firmware/updates. I have copies of the last 4 updates for SBS for Nas so that's covered so long as I keep the Nas. I was considering upgrading to an ultra so shall I get that update now and store it just in case? What are and where can I get the latest firmware files for currently running Touch and Radio? And what do I do with the sealed Touch please. I have an active mysqueezebox.com account. Cheers in advance for advice. Matt 05mattjax's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96331 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
I do have a concern that the alternative hardware pressed into use should be able to deliver a clean bitream to a quality DAC. I'm not an obsessive audiophile, but I would be keen to see decent engineering standards maintained, and those need not be expensive. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Shouldn't we have an UE Radio forum?
alfista wrote: but stubbornly trying to obstruct their efforts would be counteractive (and also futile). As I (almost) said before, Logitech have encouraged people to use their official forum for the Squeezeboxes for a long time. They may prefer it if we refer all UE stuff there. They may even think we're being bloody-minded and stubborn because we want to carry on with *this* forum. Discuss. :-) pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Shouldn't we have an UE Radio forum?
castalla wrote: They came for the Communists first, then the others later Damn, did Google get it wrong again? pallfreeman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37667 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96311 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Please let me know what firmware I need to keep copies of and where to find them.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96209-Setting-up-a-Touch-without-connecting-to-mysb-com If it were me, and I had purchased Touch/Radio for future / backup use (which I will not do), I'd get them updated now the normal way. Why? 1. It's dead easy to do it the way it is currently designed (now they are up to date) 2. I'd want to make sure they function properly for a few days (rare warranty issue) toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96331 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
bpa wrote: A raspberry Pi solution means a case, psu, wifi etc has to be sourced and so could be a lot of hassle and not for many end users. . Well, actually all of the places which sell the Pi, also sell them with cases,psu, sd card etc.. You just pay a few pounds more. I have a bare bones raspbian image with squeezeslave running automatically on startup. Anyone that wants it, just yell. You can have a Pi based player running with zero Linux knowledge for probably about £45. Not for everyone of course, particularly with no spoof at the moment, but good to have options. psketch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56555 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox without Logitech
Good to know there will be a solution available if I need one. Labarum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96282 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Please let me know what firmware I need to keep copies of and where to find them.
Thanks. Which files do I get please. My touch is 7.7.2 do I get this one: http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.7.2/fab4_7.7.2_r9663.bin (33m) What are the other fab4 files? And for radio: http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/7.7.2/baby_7.7.2_r9663.bin I understand you can USB the file for touch but how would you update the radio? Thanks. 05mattjax's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96331 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezePlay for Mac OSX
ralphy wrote: I've created an OSX i386 and x86_64 only build with the ability to select the output device and set the maximum sample rate. ... Hopefully this works for the Mountain Lion folks to override the new AirPlay default output devices. Many thanks for this. I have been trying it under ML (which by the way is now on 10.8.1 so is no longer a .0 release). Sorry to say that it still sends output to Airplay (very quietly) despite the environment variable settings. I tried with Built-in Output. I will double-check tomorrow that I have the set-up and definitions right. Anyone else been trying? I don't know if this is related, but Rogue Amoeba's SoundSource, which I used quite happily under Lion, is marked by them as not compatible with Mountain Lion. nonnoroger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35581 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96328 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
Ah! I used USB ASIO boxes, one to output SPDIF that went to a receiver, the other just 2 channel audio to some amplified PC speakers. http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA202.aspx I think I paid maybe $28 for each. They improved sound -quality- a tad, but -maybe- that's why I wasn't having synchronization problems. Again, these are hardly high end gear; they're built around a TI DAC that also converts to SPDIF. I remember being somewhat sad about the specs when I looked it up 'way back. I got 'em mostly to sidestep any issues with DirectSound. I've since given one to a nephew (budding recording engineer) and moved my office from the room adjacent to my serious listening area to the basement (long story), so it'd be hard to re-test. There must be other people using ASIO with squeezeslave or Ralphy wouldn't have bothered supporting it...? bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How long have your SB's lasted?
TheLastMan wrote: Newer ones don't, and it is possible to bend contacts in the dock to make it work - search the forums for instructions (rather old now). I have a spare Controller and two spare batteries. Should last me a while! Keep in mind that the life span of a lithium ion battery begins with it's manufacture, not when you start using it. To prolong the life of the spares, fully charge them and then discharge to about 40% and then store in a cool place. Repeat this process now and then. bfl banned for life's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96314 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezePlay for Mac OSX
@ralphy You might want to have a look at this: http://joris.kluivers.nl/blog/2012/07/25/per-application-airplay-in-mountain-lion/ pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96328 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How long have your SB's lasted?
My strategy for extending the life of my devices is the autodim plugin which shuts off the screens when I'm asleep, so hopefully that will help them endure. I think I set up my radio using switch saver to do the same at one point. My duet controller's battery died at one point, but once I ordered the replacement, somehow it came back to life before the replacement arrived and has been good since. The controller is cradled 99+% of the time (its basically an ersatz touch), so the actual battery life isn't tested much. I picked up an SB3 on the cheap one time from craigslist as when I went to buy it, the device wouldn't power on. I asked the seller to let me try to revive it. I took it home and removing the wifi card brought it back to life. We agreed the half the selling price and I replaced the card and we're good. Hopefully that will be the extent of my problems for a while. sander's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96314 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng now your audiophile App-Squeezebox for iPhone and iPad
New appdate :) for iPeng for iPad, 1.4.2 Only a single fix: iPeng no longer crashes when opening the screen saver on iOS 4.x pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96037 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcing SqueezePad - the first dedicated iPad App to controll your SqueezeBoxen !
I have arranged all my music in folders over the years. I have about 100 gig or so, and find that navigating through my music folders (on a NAS) is slow. The albums/artists caching is great but I'd much rather go to my music through the folder structure. Is there anything I can do to speed this up or any plans to cache in a future release? df9864's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33091 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80553 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How long have your SB's lasted?
banned for life wrote: Keep in mind that the life span of a lithium ion battery begins with it's manufacture, not when you start using it. To prolong the life of the spares, fully charge them and then discharge to about 40% and then store in a cool place. Repeat this process now and then. bfl Thanks for the tip! TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96314 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Calling Sean Adams?
pallfreeman wrote: LOL. I can't even get my SliMP3s to sync correctly with my SBs using recent versions of LMS. Thats another problem due to that slimp3 and sb1 have much smaller buffers , I can see it be a bit problematic to make syncing code that works perfect in this scenario . It gets compounded by LMS transcoding in many instances as slimp3 don't support that many file formats loading the server more , in many cases it's going to be wav thats gets streamed which makes for a higher bandwidth use and the buffer gets even smaller (in how many seconds of music it stores ). I can see wifi having further negative influence here too . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96213 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
