[slim] Can't delete player from LMS account
Hi all, I have stopped using my SBs and have started selling them. I was not aware they were still registered to my LMS account. I have a device that went to someone else and I can see the device is powered up and registered and there is no option for me to delete it. Clicking the "disconnect" button doesn't do anything the delete button is always grayed out. Using remote control I tried to power it off but it still doesn't let me delete it even when powered off. Is there any other way to get this SB radio deleted? Would deleting my entire account remove it? The person who purchased the item never contacted me about the radio still being registered but left some very unflattering feedback on the auction site about the unit still being registered to my account. Thanks, Jason -------- jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112624 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Community Funded Squeezebox Replacement - Would you be interested?
kidstypike wrote: Don't make it too good or Logitech might want to buy you out, and then ... LOL, no kidding. Without reading the thread, what's the current summary as far as an eventual LMS replacement? Has anyone been in touch with some of the music services such as Pandora to see if it might be possible for access to continue in a post logitech world for those services? jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Getting a Squeeze device separated from a mysqueeze account?
So, I bought a Squeezebox Boom used on eBay. It's in good shape and working well but I can't connect it for internet music services to mysb account as the device is already associated with the old users account. I IM'd him on eBay but have not heard back from him. Is there any other way to dis-associate the device from his account so I can use it fully? jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Getting a Squeeze device separated from a mysqueeze account?
Thanks for the advice, I did as you suggested and it was surprisingly easy, they even associated with my account for me so I didn't have to do any setup. jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=99396 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANNOUNCE: iPeng for iPad - Your Squeezebox Remote Gets Big
Finally broke down and purchased it when I saw the first update had hit the store. It's very nice! I do notice a couple of places where a language/popover item is still in German and not in English. If you are unaware of where these are I will see if I can document them. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82681 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Bizarre random play bug with large playlist
Okay I think I finally figured it out, this is related to changing the maximum playlist size in Squeezebox 7.5 to 500 entries. How irritating. But, fortunately it can be fixed. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76925highlight=500 -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82978 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Bizarre random play bug with large playlist
snarlydwarf;586384 Wrote: You may also find using plugins for this will help immensely. SBS gets grumpy with very large playlists, and the method of grab a dozen or so tracks, keep adding to the end and dropping off the start as we play works a lot better. Using Erland's plugins, you can make dynamic playlists that are comprised of parts of your collection, like All tracks tagged 'Classical' or 'Everything except tracks tagged Explicit or Christmas', etc. Then you get the pleasure of hearing tracks you didn't think of playing (the appeal behind random) without the long load times of an actual list of all your tracks. (And, of course, as you add music, it will automatically add it to the playlists that it qualifies for... not to mention you get playlists like Not recently played and such when you're wanting something new but don't know what.) I've tried Erland's plugin and unfortunately it does not work for my configuration. I have several playlists I rely on heavily that are created by setting the star ratings in iTunes (via my iPhone, on my Mac, etc). I then copy the iTunesLibrary.XML file into my Windows Home Server and have SBServer use it for the source of my playlists. I manually have to update the xml file periodically since I have found no good or reliable way to keep star ratings or any other aspect of the SBS library synchronized with iTunes that resides on another computer. In any event, I haven't had any real trouble with my large playlists getting into trouble until I observed this 500 song issue. Thanks for the information. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82978 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANNOUNCE: iPeng for iPad - Your Squeezebox Remote Gets Big
pippin;586373 Wrote: Interesting. Yes, could you send me screen shot? Actually I was aware that the help menu in the German version contains ENGLISH text, not about the other way around. Looks like the string transfer through the ibtool did not work out correctly. I will get them to you as soon as I get a chance to fiddle again, hopefully tonight. This is a solid effort and I'm proud to spend the $10 on it. I have one small question I couldn't find an answer to, is the thumbs up or thumbs down status of a song playing in Pandora shown anywhere? I didn't see this represented in the now playing screen. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82681 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ANNOUNCE: iPeng for iPad - Your Squeezebox Remote Gets Big
erland;586404 Wrote: I think I've seen Cancel buttons somewhere saying Abbrechen instead of Cancel, I think it was in some help page but I'm not completely sure. Yes, I think that's the same thing I've seen, although I can't remember which screens I saw it in. I will play more later and see if I notice it in specific places. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82681 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Bizarre random play bug with large playlist
I've observed a rather bizarre bug in SB Server (latest available version) and I'm wondering if anyone else has observed it. I have a decent sized music library of about 10,000 tracks. I use the iTunes integration to play my iTunes generated music playlists, the most typical one I use consisting of around 2,000 tracks. What I've observed is that whenever I randomly play this playlist, all of the selections for the first several hundred tracks selected randomly have artists with names starting with the characters A-D, then the next several hundred tracks randomly selected have artists starting with characters E-J, etc. So, basically it's not really random at all. Can anyone else test and verify and is there anything that can be done to clear this bug, it's rather annoying? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82978 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.
erland;494066 Wrote: Once again, if they use these $250K to spend some resources to encourage and offer better support for third party development I bet they would be able to get a lot more third party add-ons besides just the iPeng app. I understand that some people seems to think that everything will be better if it's owned by Logitech but I personally really don't think this is the case. I believe Logitech would get more advantages of supporting third party development than actually owning the third party development. One reason that we have some very creative solutions made by third party developers today is that they aren't restricted by the Logitech management and strategy in the same way as all in-house development are. Third party developers can create solutions that are a bit outside the box, while all in-house development has to follow the main strategy. It depends. If the net benefit of rebranding iPeng as the Logitech Remote App for Squeezebox, advertising it and giving it away on the Apple store generates an extra 5000 unit sales per year it would be far better than hoping that 3rd party development generates these types of additional sales. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72308 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech should hire Pippin! Those having difficulty w/Controller should get iPeng.
I have actually been surprised myself that Logitech hasn't simply made an offer to buy the iPeng product line, rebadge them as Logitech branded applications and offer them for free to drive more sales of the hardware they make money on. What would be the harm in them offering him $250K for his sweet sweet application if he also agrees to go on retainer to continue supporting it for the next few years? Certainly seems like a win win to me, although admittedly as soon as the marketing geniuses at Logitech get involved they will muck up the interface, slap annoying ads in it, etc. On 2nd thought it would be a very BAD idea for Logitech to acquire this app! :) -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72308 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Cannot connect to Pandora/Slacker/www.mysqueezebox.com
jehma;492323 Wrote: In iPeng, I get bad file descriptor. In the web interface I get There was an error loading the remote feed for Pandora: (Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor). In my log, I see: [09-12-04 12:02:56.8276] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (447) Unable to login to SN: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [09-12-04 12:02:56.8281] Slim::Control::XMLBrowser::_cliQuery_error (1278) Error: While retrieving [http://www.mysqueezebox.com/api/slacker/v1/opml]: [Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor] I can't even get to http://www.mysqueezebox.com in a browser window. Is this all a problem on their side and nothing to do with my stuff? ETA: mysqueezebox.com is available by browser now, the other problems remain. However, my log now says: [09-12-04 12:06:35.0162] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (447) Unable to login to SN: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [09-12-04 12:06:35.0167] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (241) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor, retrying in 900 seconds [09-12-04 12:06:36.1134] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::_error (447) Unable to login to SN: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor [09-12-04 12:06:36.1139] Slim::Control::XMLBrowser::_cliQuery_error (1278) Error: While retrieving [http://www.mysqueezebox.com/api/myapps/v1/opml]: [Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor] Thanks! Elizabeth I am accessing mysqueezebox.com just fine from my Comcast connection here in the Rocky Mountains Mid-West area. What area are you located in? What is the result of going to your computer and doing an nslookup (or dig) on mysqueezeboxserver.com? Jason-Pages-iMac:~ Jason$ nslookup www.mysqueezebox.com Server: 192.168.0.1 Address:192.168.0.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: www.mysqueezebox.com Address: 66.150.114.115 Jason-Pages-iMac:~ Jason$ dig www.mysqueezebox.com ; DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 www.mysqueezebox.com ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6938 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.mysqueezebox.com. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.mysqueezebox.com. 267 IN A 66.150.114.115 ;; Query time: 11 msec ;; SERVER: 192.168.0.1#53(192.168.0.1) ;; WHEN: Fri Dec 4 13:42:34 2009 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 54 -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72216 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech - please work with Pandora for 192kbps streaming!
garym;488116 Wrote: No, I'm talking about very serious BLIND ABX listening tests with high quality equipment conducted by serious folks. I'm not talking about average joes happy with AM radio. And I'm not saying that no one can detect the difference between an mp3 128 and original source, just that it typically takes very good hearing and songs where potential artifacts are likely. These are not the typical case for most listening. If you really want to learn more about this sort of thing go over to hydrogenaudio.org and read the material on this issue and the many forum posts. But I'm getting the idea that you're not actually interested in learning anything that changes your initial beliefs and you're happy to accept the heuristics and biases that may color your beliefs. That's ok--to each their own. We're just listening to music, not curing cancer. And as I said, I personally prefer all my music in FLAC (lossless) if at possible (even streams if they were available)but not because I think I can hear any difference (in my library of over 100,000 songs I've heard less than a dozen songs that were not transparent at 128). Please get off the pedestal. I know all about hydrogen audio and have been using the LAME encoder and the Fraunhofer encoder before that. I've been encoding my music for over twelve years and have participated in numerous ABX tests that demonstrate that I usually can pick the higher quality sample. It also might interest you to know that while I don't purport to be an audiophile, I used to sell extremely high end stereo gear. Listening to some top of the line Martin Logan speakers powered by Krell amps and high end DACs will go a ways towards getting you comfortable with what is possible in audio and you can set your expectations from that. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech - please work with Pandora for 192kbps streaming!
garym;487335 Wrote: There's plenty of discussion of this on the web by very informed folks (in this forum and other places), so I don't want to turn this thread into a repeat of all that info. You may have amazing hearing, but there is lots of scientific evidence that clearly indicates that it is fairly rare for any individual to be able to ABX in a blind test the difference between a properly encoded 128 mp3 with the original CD. If you were posting over at Hydrogenaudio.org the folks would demand that you post your blind ABX test results to back up your statement about detecting differences (one of their terms of service). Of course, we're not over there and things are much looser here. I can't speak to streams from pandora as there are so many more variables in the mix other than just the actual source file (and not sure how to easily do an ABX test with pandora stream since you don't have the source file in another format). Keep in mind that even extremely small differences in volume can make one source sound better than another (again, lots of hard evidence on this). Bottom line, Pandora may very well not sound as good as your local files, but in general, 128 (created with a modern, quality encoder) is typically transparent for most users on most music. Your statement that the reverse is true flies in the face of lots of controlled experiments. I'm not trying to pick a fight by the way, I just hate to see myths about lossy encoding quality be perpetuated. That said, there are lots of reason to rip music to FLAC (or other lossless format), and I do so with all my own CDs. I agree with you that for the 'average joe' who thinks that an AM radio sounds great there is no need to go higher than 128kbps. However It doesn't take amazing hearing to be able to tell the difference between 128 CBR MP3 and VBR MP3 that are both LAME encoded. All it takes is some musical knowledge and decent equipment. Most of the listening test I've seen that show that users can't pick apart 128kbps vs 192kbps mp3 are usually performed using $5 computer speakers. Color me shocked on those numbers. You might be mixing things up here and imply that 128 AAC (which is pretty much superior to LAME at the same bitrate) is good enough for most users. All I can tell you is that to me it's pretty evident which I am listening to, at least with the Pandora service (and who knows how the music is encoded). They obviously offer the 192 kbps streaming for their paying customers for some reason, I doubt they would spend the money on placebo affect. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Logitech - please work with Pandora for 192kbps streaming!
I am a paying Pandora One account holder, which means that when I'm listening to Pandora on my computer I am treated to 192kbps audio that sounds notably better than 128kbps garbage. Unfortunately this enhanced audio quality does not work on the Squeezebox platform. I contacted Pandora support about this and they said that they have considered adding 192kbps audio streams to other devices but that it would also take work on the part of the device maker to support this as well. So, if Logitech has any pull with Pandora whatsoever please try to get us 192kbps audio for the Squeeze products. I have three players and am considering a fourth but since Pandora is what I use most it's a real drag to listen to low quality garbage on my mid-fi and hi-fi setups. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech - please work with Pandora for 192kbps streaming!
Thanks Andy. Maybe if more people complained to Pandora we could get this sooner rather than later. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech - please work with Pandora for 192kbps streaming!
garym;487315 Wrote: Not to put too fine a point on it, but 128kbs is not exactly lo-quality garbage compared with 192. There is lots of evidence that most normal human beings can't ABX mp3 128 compared back to original CD in a blind test (visit hydrogenaudio forums for lots of info). That said, I'd love 192 simply because if it exists, I want it (same reason I listen to all my own files in lossless FLACbut it is not because I think I can actually HEAR the difference between lossless FLAC and mp3--because I can'tin fact, I can't ABX lame mp3 at -V5 from original source on high-end equipment or good headphones except for a few known, rare samples.) I have consistently been able to pick up on the differences between even my --alt preset extreme LAME rips and the original CDs. I have a modest sound system in my workout room that consists of an old (but very robust) Yamaha AVR and a pair of Polk budget speakers. Numerous times when listening to Pandora (and busting my butt) I've noticed how flat, lifeless, distorted and dull the audio is. I will frequently then play this same track, from the same Squeezebox from my own library and the difference is extremely noticeable. In fact I would say that it would be hard for someone NOT to be able to tell the difference. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Seriously p*****d off! (rant)
benhaines;485682 Wrote: Dear SlimDevices/Logitech, Please stop changing the bloody software! I have been using your products for 6 years now and am getting to the point of giving up! Unless you are an uber-geek, each controller update takes a good 15 minutes to work out. My partner now simply unplugs the Receiver and plugs in her iPod because it is [squeezebox] too complicated and rarely works!. Today I found another update which has completely changed the menu items around. WTF is an App? Where is my Last.fm service gone? How do I connect to the squeezenetwork? Why when I attempt to install an App using the Applet Installer does the receiver never get beyond the Fetching Applet List stage... seriously, and this coming from a geek. Give me something user friendly that works. Rant over. Yours sincerely, Ben Is someone forcing you to upgrade? I used a V1 and V2 Squeezebox for over three years without ever once upgrading the software. It worked great. I only needed to update the software when I bought a new Squeezebox Radio because it is only supported by the new stuff. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71431 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A question about cats
RonM;485639 Wrote: We built our house ten years ago, and seized the opportunity to install cabling in the walls (at the time, to support distribution of satellite tv and also ethernet to computers). We put connect boxes in a whole lot of places, all terminated at a patch panel -- still bristling with multiple cable ends. Am not sure of the cabling CAT type, not sure if 5e was out and about at the time. However, the cabling works well and is supporting HD satellite at 1080i (as high as it gets). The ethernet supports several computers in several locations, including links to the dedicated Fit2 music server, as well as the router. Unfortunately, we did not put enough connect boxes, and have been unable to use it for the SB system itself -- had to drill a hole in the floor to get ethernet to the router for our main system, use wireless for the alternate (where there is one cable connection, but not ehternet). So I fully agree with the advice to install LOTS of connect boxes. Overkill at initial construction is the obvious strategy. When we upgraded to HD satellite recently, it was clear that the existing siamese cabling (two cables in one piece) was sufficient to support the signal, but limits us to two receivers in the house -- need a separate cable for each receiver if you are to tune the TVs separately). Would have been best to install a total of four cables from the dish location to the patch panel, giving options for additional TVs/receivers in the house -- the switch to split the incoming sat signal is at the dish, and our supplier will only install it at the dish not inside the house, perhaps there are technical issues. The other thing we did when building was install good speaker wire in the walls, from the obvious location for the main stereo system, to the obvious main listening area. This was a great idea, but too limited. I wish we'd installed more locations allowing connectons through some sort of patch panel to multiple listening areas, and probably multiple options for location of the SBs/amps, etc. Of course, SB type systems were not yet a factor in our consciousness. Ron The big expense is the labor. If you are doing such a major construction project and the general contractor is amenable the smartest move would be to run your own wire everywhere, and put some of the 3/4 inch smurf tubes for future use as well. Terminate it all to a patch panel in the basement, crawl space, etc. A friend of mine paid $3300 to have his entire house wired while it was being built. They would not let him do it because he wasn't a licensed contractor. So, he ended up with about $500 of wires installed at a cost of $2800. At the end of the day though he's still better off for it. He has cat5e and speakers pre-wired to pretty much every part of the home. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71301 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A question about cats
cunobeli...@mac.com;484626 Wrote: A lot less expensive than a professional rewiring of an existing property. A lot less trouble than doing it oneself. And from what I've experienced so far, just as reliable. That's what I mean, since you ask so politely. I politely disagree. Powerline adapters are very expensive and have limited utility since they max out at about 1/5 to 1/10 of what is possible with traditional cat5e or cat6 cables. 100MB dedicated duplex connections are just barely fast enough to stream high quality 1080P. Most power adapters cannot pull this off. For the $100-$200 per cable run that power adapters cost you can usually find an electrician who can run the wire, even if you have to terminate the connections yourself. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71301 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Troubleshooting Squeezebox V1?
Interestingly my problem does appear to be some kind of dhcp issue. I put a static address on the box and it has not had a hiccup in over 24 hours. I will have to put it back on dhcp and get a sniff of what is going on what it gets itself into trouble. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A question about cats
radish;484543 Wrote: I've been wanting to do this for ages but am a little worried about regs. I know it can vary by locality, but does anyone know if in general (in the US) a homeowner can do this kind of work without getting permits/inspections etc? I'm concerned about insurance companies having a get out if they decide you had unauthorized wiring in the walls after a fire (even if it wasn't a contributing factor). I'm perfectly confident I can do it safely, and would of course use the in-wall rated stuff. The problem is it varies by locality. Generally speaking you don't need to get a permit to do low voltage work such as alarms, doorbells, network and audio/video. You just need to make sure that the cables are rated class-2 or class-3 for in wall use, or plenum rated cable for use in heating ducts or drop ceilings as Pat indicated. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71301 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] A question about cats
CAT6 is definitely more future proof. You can run 1 GB over both CAT5e and CAT6 but it's likely that CAT6 will eventually be able to handle even higher speeds. I also agree that if you can run some of the small diameter smurf tube conduits since it will make it easier in the future to backhaul fiber, etc, through the same spaces. Also, make sure whatever you run is rated class-2 or class-3 for in wall use. Some cheap cables are not rated for in wall use and technically can spread a fire or toxic fumes if there is a fire. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71301 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Troubleshooting Squeezebox V1?
Well, my SB V2 ran for 48 hours with no issues when hooked up to all the same wired connections as the V1. So, I took apart the V1. I notice that one pin on the wireless pcmcia card slot is broken so I removed the wi-fi card. I booted it up and immediately noticed it is acting weird. During setup it would keep resetting itself, right at the point where I was typing in the server IP, etc. Finally got through server setup and it's working, but I have low confidence in this device now. In all likelihood it is shot and only usable for parts for another V1 unit, so I will start investigating trying to pick up a used V3. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Troubleshooting Squeezebox V1?
I notice that there are no longer any forums dedicated to older Squeezebox hardware. I'm still hoping I can get some troubleshooting help for my circa 2003 Squeezebox V1. My Squeezebox V1 (FW40) started having issues about a week ago. Every night, at the same time, it will show that it has disconnected from the Squeezebox Server (7.4.1). A ping test shows that it in fact has lost network connectivity. I initially thought this was a DHCP issue with the IP address not being renewed. The last time the issue happened I rebooted my router which should have flushed the DHCP bindings so that apparently is not the problem. I've also replaced the network cable to the device and changed out the network switch port. None of the other devices on the network switch are having any issues. I have also done a reset on the Squeezebox hardware by holding down the add button on the remote while powering it up. The only unusual thing I can remember from the time when the problem began is that this device seems my Squeezebox Server as having the name Gizmo while all of my other Slim Device hardware sees the server name as gizmo. Not sure it really matters. Does anyone know of any way to do any further hardware debugging on the unit before giving up for good? Thanks. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Troubleshooting Squeezebox V1?
radish;483603 Wrote: There never were :( Lease expiry doesn't typically cause these types of issues (in my experience most client devices aren't polite enough to stop using an IP they can't renew!). However, I think it would be worth setting up the player with a static IP to rule out anything like that. Other than that the fact that it always happens at the same time points strongly to an external cause - as the player doesn't know what time it is :) I'd look at things like machine restarts, power fluctuations, any kind of environmental change. Even temperature change? I've just swapped the V1 for a V2 that I have. Same network cable, power supply, etc. We'll see if this one starts acting flakey also. Since it is losing the network it is possible that some weird thing is going on, so if it continues to happen then I might put a laptop sniffer with a hub on it and stop the sniff after the problem begins. I would be suspicious of some goofy arp behavior or maybe it thinks it can't see the server (even though all the other Squeezeboxes do!). -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71208 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Got my Squeezebox Touch...
If you'd read the thread at all you'd realize that he can't get it working because the software apparently is not ready yet (even though the unit has shipped). -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67109 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WHS - Can't use share names in Squeeze Center setup?
bonze;328231 Wrote: Just changed the naming over in my WHS after reading this thread. Don't forget to clear out the cache :) I ended up with everything doubled as it had a listing for every album on the old D:\shares\ as well as the new. I see that I have this problem also. I will attempt to purge and rebuild the database and see if that has any effect. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WHS - Can't use share names in Squeeze Center setup?
jmpage2;327908 Wrote: I will remote desktop into the WHS box, and do the setup from a browser on that box. Will report back, thanks! When running the web browser directly on the WHS machine and trying to add the UNC paths I'm still getting errors such as this one; Invalid value \\Homeserver\shares\Music for audiodir Invalid value \\Homeserver\shares\Music for playlistdir Even though clearly the machine knows where the Homeserver is; C:\Documents and Settings\Administratorping homeserver Pinging homeserver [192.168.0.10] with 32 bytes of data: Reply from 192.168.0.10: bytes=32 time1ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.0.10: bytes=32 time=-5ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.0.10: bytes=32 time=-5ms TTL=128 Reply from 192.168.0.10: bytes=32 time=-5ms TTL=128 Any other ideas to help fix this? Thanks. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WHS - Can't use share names in Squeeze Center setup?
Goodsounds;328061 Wrote: In your first post, you say that it works by using the drive letter. Why not just do that? Because using drive letters for anything in WHS is verboten. Due to the nature that shares, etc, work in WHS with it's virtualized storage pool, UNC names and not drive letter/folder paths are to be used at all times. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WHS - Can't use share names in Squeeze Center setup?
Roy;328120 Wrote: Here is a link to the Ripcaster site instructions on installing squeezecenter on WHS - https://www.ripcaster.co.uk/node/321 You can see at 24 they use D:\shares\Music as the location for the music folder and playlists. They supply WHS boxes with squeezecenter installed. Roy OK, fair enough. It's still troublesome that others seem to have UNC paths working when they don't work on my setup. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WHS - Can't use share names in Squeeze Center setup?
OK, problem solved. Problem existing between operator and keyboard in this case. When trying to enter my UNC share names I was forgetting that the \share\ portion of the d:\ path does not exist as a component of the UNC path name. In other words d:\shares\music is not \\homeserver\shares\music it is simply \\homeserver\music. All fixed now apparently. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] WHS - Can't use share names in Squeeze Center setup?
Hi guys. I'm in the process of setting up Squeezecenter on my Windows Home Server that I've put together last week. One thing I'm scratching my head about is that it seems as though I can't specify netbios path names for my various shares, etc, in the Squeeze Center setup. For example, I want my music path to be \\Homeserver\Shares\Music but when I try to save this Squeeze Center balks and says; Invalid value \\Homeserver\shares\Music for audiodir I can point Squeeze Center at the real root path directory D:\shares\music\ but in Windows Home Server it is strongly advised to not use the D:\ path for anything as it's a virtual file system. Does anyone have any advice to help me get this set up and working properly? Thanks. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WHS - Can't use share names in Squeeze Center setup?
MeSue;327786 Wrote: Hmmm... it works for me. Are you doing setup on the WHS machine or a client? I think I initially set mine up using a drive letter and later changed it to the UNC path. I'm trying to do it with the web browser from a client box (with the fishbone skin). Is there some way to do it directly on the WHS box I'm not aware of? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] WHS - Can't use share names in Squeeze Center setup?
damager;327892 Wrote: Remote desktop into the WHS box and do the setup there. I will remote desktop into the WHS box, and do the setup from a browser on that box. Will report back, thanks! -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50900 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver on HP 2120 Media Server?
ScAndal;285007 Wrote: WOW this looks very promising. Does anyone have any info on it? ScAndal I agree, if there is more under the hood this thing becomes extremely impressive. Gizmodo has done a very light weight review of it here; http://gizmodo.com/373711/hp-media-vault-2100-linux-server-reviewed-one-kick+ass-little-penguin Which sadly doesn't answer many questions such as whether or not it's possible to load other applications on this thing. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45470 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slimserver on HP 2120 Media Server?
HP's new ultra-slick HP 2120 Linux Media Server is launching in a week and apparently there are review units kicking around out there. Has anyone had a chance to play with one and find out if it's possible to get Slimserver loaded on it? If possible, this would allow me to retire my franken-NAS for once and for all and run something that's small, fast, light weight and easy to maintain. Thanks! -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45470 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iTunes playlists empty...
I am having the same problem. I have never attempted to use iTunes in slimserver before but as I rely on iTunes heavily now for playlist management I decided to give it a whirl. Upgraded Slimserver on my Linux machine to the latest RPM (6.5.4) and set it up to use iTunes. iTunes database and all of my music files are synch'd nightly from a Windows Vista machine running latest iTunes version to the Linux box... so the iTunes database file and associated music are located on the Linux box itself. Checked the radio button for use iTunes and pointed Slimserver to my iTunes database and the music folder that all of the music resides on. All of the albums/artists/etc are showing up, and the playlists for iTunes show up, but when they are selected they are showing up as empty. I've tried a rescan, etc, any ideas to resolve this are welcome. I did notice that one playlist I have with the name ' *' (meaning 4 and 5 star songs) shows up in Slim as '' but I doubt that's breaking the whole thing. Is there any debugging I can do to see what's going on with populating these playlists? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Everything works but playing
Sounds like something got tightened up in your network config. If a firewall blocks the audio ports it will behave in much the way you have described. Also, have you tested Soft Squeeze to prove whether or not the problem is with the Squeezebox hardware? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Everything works but playing
gsuser;185197 Wrote: Everything was fine, but after reinstalling xp, I can't play wav files anymore. Only flac or mp3 can be listened. I use eac to rip (wav + cue). The files appear in the music folder, but if I want to listen to them nothing happens, the elapsed time is stuck on the sb3 display. I tried 6.5, 6.51, nightly releases, but no wav anymore... If you reinstalled XP then the windows firewall is on by DEFAULT. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wired SB3 no longer offered?
I was just going to order a new SB3 for my family room and noticed that the wired version is no longer offered? I have wired cat5 to every room in my house on a switched network, and I really, really don't want to have to spend an extra $50 on something I will never use (that's beer and nachos money). Slim, won't you guys reconsider offering wired versions? I know it's probably more cost effective to offer a single version but you are pricing the SB3 up and out of the range of people who don't need the wireless unit. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32039 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wired SB3 no longer offered?
I'd much rather get one from Slim Devices as it has a warranty and I also feel that it's supporting the company more to buy first hand. That, and I want the sexy new black one. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32039 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Night terrors caused by SqueezeBox
I think we are all missing something that the OP stated in one of his posts a short time ago. He indicated that he has a PC in his bedroom near the squeezebox but that he has it hibernate at night. I'm guessing that this same PC is the device that runs slimserver. You've programmed your Squeezebox to connect to both your PC and to the Squeeze network and then at night you hibernate your PC shutting down the connection between the Squeezebox and the Slimserver software that runs on your PC. So then the Squeezebox is connected to Squeezenetwork and if that connection is lost then it will report to you that it lost the connection. Solutions? Take your PC out of hibernate mode so that your Squeezebox can stay connected to it. Don't like that? Then as someone else indicated, either set the brightness to off when the box is off or put it on an electrical timer so that it's completely powered down during your normal sleepy times. I hardly think slinging insults, throwing tantrums and threatening lawsuits is the best way to remedy situations like this. Your single paragraph rant was pretty funny though, in a this guy should be in a straight jacket kind of way. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31652 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Apple Iphone= Idiotphone?
Jack Coates;169638 Wrote: * No Exchange or Office support. No exchange support is good, the rest sucks. Exchange does IMAP and should do SyncML too. The thing is a toy and will only be used by SOHO folks and soccer moms; end of story. It telegraphs that for all their talk about enterprise, Apple, Inc (no longer Apple Computers) is still not inclined to work instead of play. Wake me when the XServe ships with a 49 cent (in bulk) IPMI chip. -- I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin, So across the Western ocean I must wander -- traditional This pretty much hits it on the head. The moment the iPhone becomes available it's going to become the must have fashion gadget for everyone on the planet who is 13-49. $499-$599 for a small breakable device that is probably not upgradeable, has outdated EDGE radio, can't have its battery replaced and forces you into a new 2 year contract with the mobile provider? Joe 6 pack won't be able to pull his (or mommy and daddy's) credit card out fast enough to make this dream a reality. I fully expect Apple to give away about 10,000 of these to professional athletes and movie stars just so that they are quickly seen in the hands of society's elite and all the normal folks who are already afflicted with the worst consumerism seen in this country since the 1930's are in an absolute rabid frenzy to get ahold of one. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31507 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help configuring Squeezbox with Vonage
OK, so this is a wired version of the Squeezebox you are using? And it's connected to the same router as the laptop (which is also using a wired connection)? These are important questions to answer. If you are using DHCP on both routers then it is likely that they are on different IP subnets, which means that the Squeezebox wouldn't be getting an address from the VoIP router at all but should only be able to attempt to get a device from the locally connected router. Can you access the configuration web pages on both the VoIP router and your regular router and provide the DHCP configuration information here? That should answer the question of whether it is possible that both devices are attemping to handle DHCP for your entire network. As far as configuring the Squeezebox statically, it's not difficult. You simply need to give it an IP address on the same IP subnet as the laptop. If you go into a DOS window on your laptop (type cmd at the command line) and type in ipconfig you will see the ip address of your laptop. For example, the laptop might have the address 192.168.0.3 which means that the laptop is probably on the 192.168.0.x subnet with the router being 192.168.0.1, you could assign the squeezebox any unused ip address in 192.168.0.x, for example, you could use 192.168.0.100 (which should be well outside the address range being handed out by DHCP) and set the subnet mask to 255.255.255.0, then just set the router address to 192.168.0.1. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help configuring Squeezbox with Vonage
The problem likely has little to do with the Vonage adapter, unless in fact it is handing out a DHCP address to the Squeezebox. Traffic between your Laptop and Squeezebox won't pass through the Vonage adapter at all, it's far more likely that you have a firewall set up on either your router or your laptop which is interfering with the communication between the Squeezebox and the Laptop. Information about what ports need to be opened on the firewall for Squeezebox and Slimserver to communicate is well documented in the support section of the Slim Devices website. When you say things are not working, what is not working? Does the Squeezebox completely boot up, get an IP address, AND SAY that it is connected to the Slimserver (running on your laptop)? If you are not getting this far then you need to investigate what is happening when the Squeezebox attempts to get an IP address and contact the Slim Server. If you aren't sure where your Squeezebox is getting its IP address from then you need to get into the web interface of each of your routers and see how DHCP is set up on them. You can also check the status to see which of them has handed out an IP address to the Squeezebox. The router will either identify the Squeezebox with an understandable name, or it will provide the MAC address (machine address) of the Squeezebox. The Squeezebox will either have the MAC address printed on a sticker on the bottom of the device, or you can confirm the MAC by disconnecting the device and seeing which MAC address disappears from the router's DHCP table. Please provide as much information as possible about the problem so we can help you resolve the issue. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30982 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] What?? No holiday super sale? :)
Come on SD guys, even Amazon.com gave away 1000 Xbox 360's for $100. You guys seriously need to have a holiday sale and I'm not talking about that buy 2 and get $100 off crap (J/K)!! :) We need a big sale on SB3 before the new ones that are branded Logitech start to ship out. :P And there better be a free pony too, damnit! -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30078 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Wow, less than 12 hours after the announcement and people are already predicting doom and gloom that they don't have bragging rights or niche status with their Squeezeboxes any longer. Folks, I thought it was about the music. Logitech can probably help Slim reduce costs on the more mainstream products like Squeezebox while still allowing a high end Transporter product to succeed in the market. I see a simple windows installer for the noobs and a high end server product for custom installs or those users who want to do their own compiles, add their own plugins, etc. This is all good for us, the consumers, as likely one big benefit of the acquisition is that prices will go down. Don't condemn this deal until it bears sweet or bitter fruit. And for those exceptionally bitter people, buy as many Sbs and Transporters as you ever think you will need and get the latest server software, it does virtually everything you would ever want to do for music listening in the current state it's in. Hats off to the Slim Devices team, congrats on this deal, I'm sure it's good to get handsomly rewarded after years of hard work!! -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Discrete on/off codes for Harmony 880
The problem is that even though you can do a discrete on/off sequence for the Squeezebox, 90% of components don't have them (like my TV, DVD player, Cable Box, etc). So unfortunately I think most users will resort to leaving everything off or on and having a macro just to power their stuff up or down. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24242 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Discrete on/off codes for Harmony 880
I've read that the remote does a poor job of tracking which components are on/off as well, but I guess without discrete codes that's what you get. Somewhat off topic but there is a coupon deal with Dell right now on this remote that takes the price to $149.99 shipped. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24242 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: harmony 880 and squeeze 3
neilcoburn Wrote: Harmony remotes can learn any IR codes if they are not already on their database, so the answer is almost certainly 'yes', assuming you have the orginal remote. You can also add extra commands to Harmony 'activities', for example within 'watch a DVD' tell it to switch your video switcher to the right input. That's pretty cool, I will have to pick one up. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23918 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: harmony 880 and squeeze 3
Off topic sort of question on the Harmony, does anyone know if it will work with a remote controlled Inday component video switcher? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23918 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Power over Ethernet
GatoChulo Wrote: So random note, I live in a really rural location and the only two Internet options available to me when I moved in were DirecPC and what is called 'Fixed Wireless'. I opted for the fixed wireless due to the initial and monthly cost and upon installation, I find the man plugging one single ethernet cord from the rooftop antenna into what he called a 'power injector' then onto my router network. His homemade contraption merely spliced the power to run the wireless antenna on the roof BEFORE any of my router and network equipment. Have been using it for 3 years solid and LOVE IT! Power over ethernet ROCKS. Peace, Joe.m So what exactly are you saying, that you bypassed the switch so that PoE was being injected directly into your network instead of going through the bypass device? And what exactly are you rocking with PoE? There are very few devices that utilize it today, and some equipment can actually be damaged of power is present on either paiirs 2,3 or 7,8. I've seen PoE fry a $15,000 Agilent ethernet test set that was designed at a time when power over ethernet did not exist. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21936 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: HD-DVD to SQ3...?
What exactly made you choose HDDVD over Blu-Ray? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23814 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What's next from Slim? Speculate here.
JJZolx Wrote: What makes you think you're susceptible or pre-disposed to tinnitus? You either have it or you don't. I also have tinnitus, probably from working in my younger days around heavy machinery and power tools without hearing protection. It tends to be worse, or at least more bothersome, when I'm fatigued, but it never actually goes away. Because its what my ENT said. I have about a 6dB dip in the left ear at that frequency and have pronounced tinnitus. Most people have to have 20-30dB of signal loss before tinnitus develops. My test results were strange enough that they had me go back and do a BSER (brain stem evoked response) test to make sure my brain was working properly. So based on all of that, yes, I believe I am more susceptible to tinnitus symptoms than most people. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: squeezeboxes flying off the shelves?
4mula1 Wrote: Perhaps to get some more mass market appeal SD need to offer a Squeezebox Kit that includes the SB and a preconfigured router. That would make the plunge for a lot of people who are not network savvy. Also, while SlimServer is becoming more feature rich, perhaps it's time to step back and make SlimServer Lite which will give the average consumer enough features to make them happy but not so many as to overwhelm them. A simple download later can install the full version with all of the mind numbing options available. Yes, I've had similar thoughts about how they could get better adoption from non techno-philes. I still think they need to offer a stripped down wireless model for less than the $299 price point. Nearly everyone I've shown the SB to has become completely deflated when they've found out it's $300 plus shipping. Look at it this way, for $300 you can buy a video iPod and a little more $$ for a dock to stick it on your stereo. What do you think the average consumer will do? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23505 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Interesting Article about Pandora
I more or less agree with the conclusion your friend came up with in his blog article, that Pandora might work too well in the sense that it puts more emphasis on trying to match songs based on their component parts rather than looking at the meme of who is listening to what (someone who loves the Arctic Monkeys will probably be able to stand Franz Ferdinand, etc). I think Last.FM does a better job of the latter, plus it's great that scrobblers exist for virtually every player (iPod, etc) out there which really helps it make valid recommendations based on what you already listen to from your own collection. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23788 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What's next from Slim? Speculate here.
Mark Lanctot Wrote: You may want to consider getting tested. Hearing loss is usually gradual and progressive and your brain adjusts to it so you don't notice it. Unless you get very-noticeable tinnitus as mentioned by jmpage2 and aubuti, you may not realize how much hearing loss you've incurred. High-frequency hearing is the first to go. A cheap (free!) test is: can you hear the HF whine of a CRT TV? I think that's about 16-18 kHz and it's quite quiet. If you can hear it from several feet you've probably still got fairly good hearing. Interestingly enough my hearing loss is not severe, but I am very susceptible to tinnitus. When they tested my hearing it was quite good other than a dip in the left ear around 7khz. Unfortunately since I am apparently pre-disposed to tinnitus it means that over time as natural age related hearing loss occurs the tinnitus will probably only get much worse. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21414 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Version 6.2.2 NOT ready for showtime...
empty99 Wrote: After 7 months of uninterrupted musical bliss w/ v6.2.1, per Slim website I upgraded to V6.2.2 and my PC started to freeze randomly, usually within a couple of songs. Needless to say, I had to go through the pains of uninstall/reinstall and hundreds of little setpoints redo to make my PC work again with V6.2.1, please be forewarned, TN Was something showing up in the Windows event viewer when this was happening? Did you try restarting the PC and disabling all virus scanners, firewalls, etc, before you gave up and reverted to the older load? hundreds of setpoints? I'm not sure I follow you on this one. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23619 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: squeezeboxes flying off the shelves?
opaqueice Wrote: Which mods would be most important to you? Personally I would also like to see an audiophile version, with components upgraded in some way to be determined by Slim Devices with the goal of improving sound quality. There is definitely a market there which they are actually missing out on by pricing it so low. I don't think it would matter what Slim did to satisfy the audiophile crowd, it would still fall short of the expectations of many. There are a few individuals out there who sell their own customized version of the Squeezebox with stable power supplies, upgraded DACs and complimentary ougi boards, so that's probably the best place for serious audiophiles to begin. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23505 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Dedicated skin for Dell Axim x51v
It's looking good. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23354 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: squeezeboxes flying off the shelves?
Mark Lanctot Wrote: Huh? Sonos certainly doesn't adhere to this cost model at all. According to a forum member, they are available in big box stores now (Future Shop, Canada's equivalent of Best Buy). The Sonos does not require a stereo system or a server, it also has a color remote control and is essentially idiot proof. The Roku is a direct knockoff of the Squeezebox that costs a bit more than half what the Squeezebox costs for the basic model. So effectively that leaves the SB sort of in the middle, hard to compete with Roku on price and very hard to compete with Sonus for gee wiz and idiotproofness. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23505 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver system up almost a year
pfarrell Wrote: Periodically folks post on this list questions about startup and stopping of their slimserver systems. I have mine in my basement and never look at it, never touch it, and rarely think about it. I do occasionally upgrade the SlimServer software, whether it needs it or not. Currently, I'm approaching a year. (beatles)/home/pfarrell uptime 21:07:49 up 318 days, 8:19, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.12, 0.09 I expect that at least a few others exceed my uptime. It just works. Happy customer am I. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html It seems that your uptime refers to the server uptime, not the uptime of the Slimserver process. Linux boxes with uptimes of a year or more are pretty common. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23607 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: squeezeboxes flying off the shelves?
mrchrispy Wrote: In order to fly off the shelves the Squeezebox needs to be on the shelves to begin with. There are are hardly any retailers selling it right now. I live in NYC and wanted to pick one up at a bricks and mortar store and couldn't find one. (Tekserve only had the Squeezebox 2). Internet sales are great, but for a consumer product you really need to find a way to get in stores. Squeezebox is a great product - I love mine, but it's really not marketed to consumers at all. I can't imagine growth is exponential because there's no awareness of the product in the marketplace (which is why you all have such trouble explaining the product to your friends). Ask 100 people at random on the street what a squeezebox is and you'll get 100 blank stares. Ask 100 people what an iPod is and 30 will take one out of there pocket to show it off, 65 will offer an explanation, and 5 will adjust their hearing aids and ask you to repeat your question. One of the reasons that iPods sell so well is that they've been brilliantly and exhaustively marketed. If/when Apple ever gets serious about competing with the squeezebox with something other than Front Row they'll probably outsell Slim's lifetime numbers within a week or so (assuming they build a halfway decent product). That's not a knock on the people at Slim, just a testament to the power of advertising. Well, to add to this train of thought, Squeeze has done a great job of being a niche product, but to bust out to the mainstream the price will have to come down. Wi-fi appliances like the SB3 don't cost $300, they cost $150, $200 at most. I've showed my SB2 off to several friends who were very interested in the device until they found out what the cost was. You'd really think with direct sales they could sell for less and still make a good profit (while possibly increasing their volume). Then again, maybe that's not the goal, maybe they would like to sell more to the Niche crowd. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23505 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Play all by an artist busted?
Can anyone confirm what build number 6.2.2 should be for a Linux installation? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23388 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.2.2. OK now! This is fun! NOT!
jonheal Wrote: Sean/Dean/et al: PLEASE shut this monkey down! He's puttin' a bad vibe on the whole joint. He is *clearly* postal. There is *nothing* anyone here can do to help him (unless they're licensed to dispense psychotropic meds). The notorious power supply thread reads like a Sunday School lesson when compared to the bile that has flowed in this thread. The guy might be a little upset, but it's hardly like noone else has gotten rowdy in this playpen. Surely the guy has some right to be frustrated as; 1. He hasn't yet gotten real tech support on the issue even though he's tried. 2. His squeezeboxen are busted. So I'd say calling him a Monkey and insisting he be silenced is rather unnecessary. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23389 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.2.2. OK now! This is fun! NOT!
OK, this is all twilight-zone esque. After posting the above I upgraded (again) to 6.2.2 because the build I am on apparently was not the latest (release) version. And now I'm having the *SAME* problem that the muffin man is having. My Squeezebox 2 says the normal press and hold brightness bit and when I do the display simply blinks off and the box reboots itself and comes back to the same update firmware screen after accessing the LAN. I never see the progress bar indicating that the SB is upgrading itself. I was on Linux build 6.2.2-6245 and just re-upgraded to the final release after realizing I hadn't upgraded successfully. Slimserver is starting up just fine and now shows that it is 7135 but the SB won't upgrade. Tailing the log file shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] slimserver]# ./slimserver.pl --logfile /var/log/slim.out --d_firmware [1] 3039 [EMAIL PROTECTED] slimserver]# service slimserver status slimserver.pl (pid 3039) is running... [EMAIL PROTECTED] slimserver]# tail -f /var/log/slim.out 2006-04-28 17:12:07.7405 squeezebox2 v. 33 requires upgrade to 48 And that's it. No matter how many times I try to upgrade this is all I see from the logfile output. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23389 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Play all by an artist busted?
kdf Wrote: Quoting jmpage2 jmpage2.26z9ic1146233102 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com: Can anyone confirm what build number 6.2.2 should be for a Linux installation? 7135 is tagged at 6_2_2_FC1, and Dan has reported that the official release is a match for the FC1 build. There is no 6_2_2 tag. The fix for ordering went in at 7128, and inserts albums.titlesort as the first sort parameter for tracks. If this is present, then album title should prevail over track number. Given a single album, then you get disc-tracknum-track title This should be the same regardless of the skin used, though I would have to admit that inconsistencies do remain in the skins (to what extent I am not sure). All work to make skins more consistent has been part of the 6.5 process. -k I was not on the right build, I ran the upgrade and walked away and thought it had completed, but it turns out that the 6.2.2 final was reporting as an older version than the old nightly I had been running. Now that I have upgrade to the latest release, I am having the same problem that another user is having, my SB2 won't update firmware, see the thread by tonymuffinman for more info and a snapshot from my log. Most frustrating. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23388 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 6.2.2. OK now! This is fun! NOT!
dean Wrote: I heard from our support team that the original problem was resolved by rebooting the router. Glad to hear that it's up and running and that we can all move on. Interesting. I had to fix mine by taking it off of the wireless (WPS-PSK) network completely and hooking it up to a wired ethernet connection, getting it a new DHCP address and then it updated successfully. Strange. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23389 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Play all by an artist busted?
This has been going on since 6.2.1 but since it's still happening after I upgraded to 6.2.2 I thought I'd post about this, maybe it's a bug. When browsing by artists in the fishbone skin, I select play for an artist that has multiple albums. When I do this, even though random is turned OFF the player is interleaving the tracks as can be seen in this screenshot; http://home.comcast.net/~page.jason/slimserver_screenshot.JPG Can someone help with this? I've tried rebuilding the database and it doesn't seem to have any effect. I would expect that if random is not selected and all tracks by an artist are played they should play in album order (can you tell I find the current behavior extremely irritating?) -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23388 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Play all by an artist busted?
jth Wrote: This was one of the last bugs fixed before the release of 6.2.2. It is working for me - perhaps you need to clear and rescan your library but I'm not sure about that. I did clear and re-scan the library and it's still going on. If anyone has any other ideas that would help please let me know. As it is I'd say the bug is not fixed for everyone. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23388 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Play all by an artist busted?
jth Wrote: I think you are still downrev. My 6.2.2 final is svn rev 7135. 6245 is the RPM that downloads right now, did they fail to build the latest for the new release? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23388 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Play all songs bug in 6.2.1?
Anyone? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22934 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Play all songs bug in 6.2.1?
Mike Meyer Wrote: Check out your Shuffle button on the remote. There are different settings...i.e. shuffle by album, song, don't shuffle. Not sure if that is it or not. Nope, shuffle is definitely turned off, I've even toggled it on and off from the web interface. The song order is not coming up shuffled, when I am selecting play all it is coming up with track 1 from each album by the artist, then track 2, track 3, so that all the albums are interleaved with each other. It's rather obnoxious actually. The only thing that will get it to stop doing this is to select shuffle by album which then sorts them into the correct order but plays the individual albums by an artist in random order. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22934 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Play all songs bug in 6.2.1?
I'm running Slimserver 6.2.1 and am seeing something bizarre that I don't remember occurring before. If I select an artist and then choose to play all songs the song order is playing the 1st track from each album, then the 2nd, etc. I don't remember this behavior occurring in the past, when I would play all the tracks for an artist they would be sorted in album order. Is there some setting that I am missing, is this how the feature is supposed to work or is this a bug? Thanks. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22934 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 stopped working - (long)
cjhabs Wrote: The problem seems to come and go. I've tried everything to reproduce it. I thought it may have something to do with rescanning or using a vpn connection on the server - but that doesn't seem to be the case. I'm wondering if its something to do with wireless networks coming online nearby and the arp table getting corrupted. If it happens again I'll look if the available networks have changed. I don;t have the option of switching to a wired connection. Are you running wireless? Habs Thousands of people run the Squeezebox without such issues, it is certainly a wireless issue, possibly some incompatibility with your wireless AP. Maybe you can provide the make/model and FW of your access point to see if anyone else is running the same combination successfully or have had to tweak any settings in the AP setup. A message to the people who go on and on about how their wireless cannot be the culprit because their laptop works great on wireless. Your laptop is not streaming audio over the network and does not need to be continued to it continuously like the Squeezebox needs to be continually connected to the Slimserver, AND, for everyone who has a laptop that works perfectly someone else has a laptop/access-point combination that fails miserably to live up to expectations. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22341 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How do YOU backup your music?
All of my music and other data is backed up from a server with mirrored hard disks to an external hard drive in another part of the house. I run M$FT robocopy utility to synch the data nightly. If I was really anal retentive I would buy a 2nd external enclosure and keep a rotated backup in my fire safe or periodically send it to Aunt Glenda in the Ozarks for safe keeping. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22161 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Last.fm or Pandora?
mattybain Wrote: Does this actually work? I only question it because of this link direct from the LastFM website http://xurble.org/about/iScrobblerforWindowsFAQ.php where it says Will songs I listen to on my iPod be submitted to Audioscrobbler? Unfortunately not at the moment. The Mac bods have this working, but I don't have an iPod to implement it. Why not buy me one? I haven't had time to do anything about it. I believe there are people who are working on this Is there another plugin that will download what is listened to on my ipod? Yes, there is a plugin that works, jscrob2 is loaded as a visualizer in iTunes and then configured with your last.fm login and password info. It then takes the recently played list from your iPod when synched and loads the newly listened to tracks directly to last.fm. I haven't had a problem with it and it's nice to have my iPod listening habits captured on last.fm. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21203 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Looks like Last.FM are fans of Squeezebox too!!
Here's what you get when you sign up for Last.FM service; What you get when you sign up: Personal music profile Your own music charts Friends and neighbours Audioscrobbler plugin Discussion groups and forums Thousands of radio tracks Your own music journal Album art and artist stats *A pony*** -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21260 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Last.fm or Pandora?
I have to say that after trying both I really like last.fm better. One thing that irritates me about Pandora is that it won't let you skip beyond a certain number of tracks an hour, which is extremely irritating if you are just listening to new stuff to get a feel for it. Last.fm sets up a very cool user page for you which shows all sorts of statistics and lets you custom tag all the music you've listened to. If you become a subscriber with Last.fm (which I have) then you get your own personal radio as well as the ability to play your loved tracks whenever you want, also very cool. Sound quality for last.fm seems slightly better to me too, I wonder if they are using a better codec. All in all my enthusiasm for pandora has faded after trying last.fm. I am very impressed with it. edit One thing I forgot to mention is that there are even scrobbler plugins for iPod, Rio Karma and other music players for last.fm. This is really cool as when I synch my iPod it uploads a list of all tracks I've listened to so that last.fm can add it to my user profile. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21203 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Last.fm or Pandora?
Kyle Wrote: That's OK. I like MMM, too, but I'm a little concerned about the duplicate tracks that are starting to show up when I call up an album. What the heck is MMM? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21203 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 Build Quality
PAUL WILLIAMSON Wrote: Who the hell is this guy Joe 6-Pack I keep hearing about? And why is he concerned about audio quality while he's drunk? I doubt most Joe 6-Pack's give 2 hoots about audio quality, and even less about a computer. Unless a squeezebox can be used to play audio porn, slimserver/squeezebox combo will never be part of the hi-fi setup of Joe 6-Pack. Paul You'd probably be rather astounded then by the number of normal Joes who have marvelled at my Squeezebox setup only to be intimidated by what it takes to get the whole thing set up and working. Not everyone who has a real job (welding, construction, telecom, pretty much any job where you might actually break a sweat) and has a beer or two is a drunken porn loving slobbish moron. But it's good to see you wear your prejudices on your sleeve. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21126 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 Build Quality
snarlydwarf Wrote: And some of us drunken porn loving slobbish morons enjoy great music, too. Ya! :) .. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21126 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 Build Quality
CardinalFang Wrote: I was explaining my SB setup to someone I work with who loves music and has tons of CDs. She wanted to get one when she saw how good looking it was and when I told hert how much I liked it. Her comment was my son-in-law will have to set this up for me if it involves installing software and setting up network connections. Do not underestimate how intimidating anything other than plugging something into the mains and pressing the on switch is to the intelligent but non-technical person. The Squeezebox to me is in a limbo state - it has mass market pretensions from its industrial design, it isn't a standard HiFi component shape for example and uses wall-wart type power supplies rather than the overkill electronics favoured by audiophiles. Yet it requires an element of devotion by technically minded people to get it running well. It isn't plug and play, but it looks like it should be. You still need to know what you are doing for a successful install, especially on wireless. Yes - I know that many people have installed SlimServer, plugged in the Squeezebox and got music, but many haven't and in any case there are lot of people out there who love music but run away at the thought of entering a network IP address. What if I break my home network? What if I do something wrong and plug it into the wrong slot on the router or PC? Paul Couldn't agree more. The vast majority of Slimserver downloads are for Windows and we all know how easy it is to get a service like this to run smoothly on windows (firewalls, virus scanners, background processes anyone?). Some of this is beyond Slim Devices control but certainly there ARE things that can be done with the application and installation instructions to make it easy for non-techies to get things going. As far as people being morons I find that many tech folk automatically slot people into that category who don't live and breathe tech as they do. I sure know a lot of PHD and MD morons if tech savvy is really the benchmark for smarts nowadays. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21126 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 Build Quality
kdf Wrote: Quoting CardinalFang CardinalFang.23c1wb (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com: I was explaining my SB setup to someone I work with who loves music and has tons of CDs. She wanted to get one when she saw how good looking it was and when I told hert how much I liked it. Her comment was my son-in-law will have to set this up for me if it involves installing software and setting up network connections. Must be nice to not have to hook up someone else's tv, sattelite dish, surround sound or program the VCR becuase they are too intimidated. None of this is new, and certainly didn't stop such equipment from becoming mainstream. Or, am I misunderstanding the meaning of mainstream? -k You would be amazed at how many smart people use installation services to come out and hook their hi-fi and video gear up for them. I've met some brilliant people (surgeons, etc) who are absolutely baffled when it comes to technology. It's of course improbable to make the Squeezebox and Slimserver idiot proof but certainly it can be further simplified to make it easier for non-techies to set it up successfully. To start with Slim really should build a native Windows API to control the server and players for the techno-illiterati of the world who find configuration via web browser far too confusing. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21126 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 Build Quality
Fifer Wrote: Again, if you want to run a successful mass market consumer products business, that might have an element of truth in it but you can run a highly profitable business catering to tech-savvy audiophiles without giving a second thought to such concerns. It all depends on the business model you choose to adopt. There's a very common misconception that the only way to be successful in business is to cater for the mass market. In some sectors, that would be the worst way to go and would be akin to committing commercial suicide. I think it's more of an assumption than anything that Sean Co. have opted for the audiophile niche market. I repeatedly see people assert this but I haven't seen anything from the Slim folks that confirms or denies it. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21126 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 Build Quality
snarlydwarf Wrote: I agree, Radish. I don't know if 'network audio players' will ever be 'mainstream' as ipods: most people really don't listen to that much music at home. Thanks to the old Sony Walkman, people are used to listening to music while exercising or just 'getting around'. Thanks to car stereos they're used to it while driving... but most people I know don't really listen to music at home. (Which is sort of sad: since you can't really -listen- on a car stereo or even a walkman/ipod type device...) Radio stations have known this for ages: it's why Drive Time is the big money time for radio. A $30 DVD/CD player will satisfy most people at home. But for the people who really enjoy -listening- to music, the Squeezebox is a great toy. Um, I mean tool. :) Interesting. Most people I know have hundreds (if not thousands) of CDs and at least decent stereos. They listen to music all the time. I would love to see a Squeezebox in all of their homes but it has to be a bit easier to set up for the novice first. I think about how cool the awesome last.fm plugin is and how hard it was to get the thing going and wonder if I know many people who could do it without some help. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21126 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 Build Quality
Robster Wrote: I'm getting back to the UK reseller, but it pretty dissapointing that something this cool (and expensive) is let down by poor build quality and/or quality assurance. MattH Expensive? you are joking right?...for what it does it's a stone cold bargain. Rob stone cold bargain is something of a relative term. The SB3 effectively does nothing more than what a Roku you can pick up for $149 does. The primary things that justify the increased price of the Slim box are the updated display and the audiophile quality electronics. For some folks the native FLAC support seals the deal. Remember, cost is relative. For something like the SB to really take off for the masses it would have to be a heckuva lot less than $300. For not much more than $300 you can get an actual PC running Linux. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21126 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 Build Quality
radish Wrote: Well, yes, and you could also get 400 candy bars or 20 CDs - but I fail to see the comparison. If I wanted a PC running Linux that's what I would have bought... The point is that the Slim box fits into the general computing category. How many network appliances fetch $300 (answer, not too many). Whether it is expensive or a bargain is obviously in the eye of the individual consumer. Personally I think that the Squeezebox is starting to creep out of the audiophile/tweaker closet and get closer to being something that the masses will embrace (although it will require much dumbing down of software and installation for that to happen). When that DOES happen more and more people will put the Squeezebox up against products that cost 1/2 the price for the same basic functionality (Roku, airport express, etc)... and it really won't matter to them if the SB has a better DAC or extra outputs or a slightly better display. Personally I think that Slim should go the Roku route. Offer a very budget conscious $149 Squeezebos lite that offers basic capabilities at a fantastic pricepoint. Then price a souped up version with a bigger display, higher quality DAC, etc, for $100 more. A deluxe version could even do full multimedia have an HDMI output, etc. I think that Sean and company have done quite well catering to the geeks, tweakers and audio nuts, but at some point to keep selling equipment they will have to cater to joe 6 pack. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21126 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 Build Quality
Michaelwagner Wrote: I think the quote we're looking for is: http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/2199 I guess it's up to Sean Dean (gee, a California beach band) if they want to go that way or not. How you extract that by selling to the masses Slim Devices is somehow selling to stupid americans is beyond belief. I find it amusing that so many people want Slim's products to remain their own little treasured geek box that the world at large doesn't know about. I remember when people that owned the iPod were considered elitest because many people couldn't figure out how to load tunes onto it (early iPods only had firewire interface)... Apple went with the standard USB interface, made iTunes easier and easier to use and now they have a massive success on their hands. I fail to see why Slim would want to do any different. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21126 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Remote Looks Sloppy but Isn't!
Actually the remote does a great job but it would be nice to see an update. Something offered seperately which was backlit and offered direct access to commonly used functions and plugins (and upcoming Pandora stuff) would really be a nice differentiator and I think quite a few people would be willing to put some cash out there to acquire a more functional remote. Just offer it for sale seperately. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21041 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Potential Squeezebox killer? iTunes fans might think so...
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21033 Question: Could a wireless enabled iPod overtake the Squeezebox as a network music player? - Yes - I want my wireless iPod yesterday! - No - nothing will pry my Squeezebox from my cold, dead, hands! - Meh - it could cause some defection but not kill Slim entirely... I think that we are only going to see more and more integration of the iPod with home and car audio. There are now lots of people who have purchased hundreds (if not thousands) of Apple DRM tracks from the iTunes music store, so what else are they going to play them with? I think the iPod will continue to evolve into the jack of all trades master of none role while products like the Squeezebox continue to evolve as audio specialist appliances that offer much better sound quality and more flexibility. I guess what I'm really getting at is that there is plenty of room in the market for both products. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21033 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
Michaelwagner Wrote: He was born in Scotland, but he moved to Canada and became a Canadian citizen. He was in the US when he did the experiments that led to the telephone, but his citizenship at the time was Canadian. I read in one place that he later acquired American citizenship. He was buried in Canada when he died. Most people think that the telephone was invented by an American. The final steps that led up to the telephone (the Mr. Watson, come here first message) were done in the US, but much of his earlier research was done in Canada. Interestingly enough, he was really looking for something to help the deaf when he invented the telephone instead. Someone in his family (his parents?) was deaf. He later married someone who was deaf. The foundation he started still exists: http://www.agbell.org/DesktopDefault.aspx Yes, yes, Americans are self-absorbed, obnoxious and think that their culture is the center of the universe. Now can we get back to the actual thread topic and cease with the vulgar hijacking and whining about how this is only going to initially be available in the US? -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Serious audio problems
Thousands of us are running the server successfully without hiccups. I actually run a box over wireless without any issues. Since you are running the Windows version of Slimserver it might be helpful for you to start by disabling all other applications on the box including network firewall, virus scanners, etc. See if a process is spiking at the times you are getting the audio dropouts. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21001 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
Bennett, Gavin (LDN Int) Wrote: Dear SlimDevices, I love your products (plug for referral scheme!) and have 3 of them around my house. The old Slimp3s still impress many visitors and just keep on running. But Pandora is useless for me - it looks great. All I see now is that for the next 6 months your time and resources will be directed at a USA only product that does nothing to improve or help the platform for non-Americans. The forum is going to be swamped with newbies asking the same old questions and existing users loving Pandora whilst I'm left out in the cold (currently -3 Centigrade). Pandora and Slim should get a lot more customers from this tie-up, but Pandora are losing out due to USA only licensing. Even if they do license for UK I bet it will be £36 ($62) pa instead of $36 - ripped off again. Please kick Pandora until the wake up to global markets and not continue with the typical Amercian company attitude that ignores other countries. Um..if I change my server to use an IP hide program will it let me subscribe? Gavin Yes, it's from the U.S. so it must be evil. Maybe it never occurred to you that the bulk of Slim's customers are in the U.S. and that native Pandora support gives Slim a leg up on the competition rather than being another me too who adds a plugin for something like last.FM? Slim is getting a lot of competition from Roku in the retail channel and this is really an excellent way to have something out there that differentiates them from the competition. And I hardly see where you get the DATA that indicates that this is going to consume all Slim Devices efforts over a 6 month period of time. Newbie questions? If you want to sell more players to more people than there are going to be more newbies, in the business world that's referred to as having a successful product. Personally I'm rather puzzled with why (for some people) Slim needs to remain this niche player that only the cool kids know about. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
I've been trying out Pandora for the last several hours. Wow. It's very, *very*impressive. About my only beef is that the bitrate is not as good as I would like (192kbps+ would really help the audio quality). I hope that the Slim Devices implementation for Squeezebox is as smooth as the web interface for Pandora (easily add songs to a channel, thumbs up, thumbs down, etc). I agree with Sean Adams, this is going to be huge, it's like XM on steroids. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
EnochLight Wrote: You know, after playing with it for a bit I've come to the conclusion that Pandora is a great idea, but... half the artists I type in - it has never heard of. So, for the most part Pandora works well with pop and more better known artists but the indie artists, abstract, experimental, and a plethora of genres not heard of get left out of the mix. I can't parse too much blame, however; it's not like they can tap into *EVERY* kind of music out there... Or then again... *shrugs* ...so much for the Music Genome Project.. ;-) Keep in mind that to build the Pandora Database they had to build up lots of information about what people have been listening to over the past 6 years. Certainly private label or indie records are going to have a much harder time being represented when much of the music isn't even available via normal distribution channels. The good news is that if the project picks up more steam I could really see it branching out into more genres of music. As it is I've had it selecting all sorts of things for me that I've never even heard of, and most of it wouldn't be classified as pop. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I want a Squeezebox boombox
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 Question: Who wants a Squeezebox Boombox? - I'm interested. - No, thanks. I would much rather see something like a full audio/video media solution from Slim (with high-def HDMI output) long before they worry about building a boombox. I got a chance to play with a Roku HD-1000, and while it's got some bugs, the capabilities were impressive as hell. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17185 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Noise at track change since FW update for 6.2.1 on SB2
Dean, Thanks, that did fix it. Is this considered a bug? Seems inconveniant to have to re-scan the library every time I add album art to my tags for iTunes iPod goodness. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19398 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
