[slim] Remote streaming LMS to the car
34707 I just had a really wide grin on my face :cool: The Amazon Echo 'Auto' I bought a year ago is finally supported in Europe so I set it up in the car just now. Told MediaServer to "Stream something by Snow Patrol" and Alexa obliged with a random playlist of 512 tracks. The tortuous path: From my LMS server at home --> Ethernet --> Amazon Cloud --> 4G connection --> iPhone --> Bluetooth --> Car audio Audio was as good as Bluetooth can be. Brings a new dimension to handsfree in the car :rolleyes: +---+ |Filename: alexa_auto.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=34707| +---+ philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114596 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote Streaming stopped working after replacing router
Last night I replaced my Fios router and setup all the port forwarding as it should be. My issue is weird and I still think it might have to do with my router but I'm not sure at this point what else to do. I can login and get to my LMS remotely from the computer I want to stream from with no problems. That right there tells me my port forwarding is working. For whatever reason though, my players aren't able to connect. I was using squeezelite to connect and stream and I've tried squeezeplay as well with no luck. Port 9000 is the port I'm using and it is forwarded as mentioned. What I've noticed on my server is this log, but I'm not sure if it has to do with my problem: Code: [15-07-09 10:04:02.3249] Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::Players::_players_error (337) Unable to get players from SN: Connect timed out: Bad file descriptor, retrying in 86400 seconds Anyone have any ideas? I'm going to reboot when I get home as that's all I can think of to do next. hah kllngtme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30198 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103934 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming stopped working after replacing router
Oh Lord... Well, it was my own mistake again. I forgot to add a rule for port 3483. Silly me. I minds well just check my own posts in the future: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?100743-Connecting-remotelyp=767698viewfull=1#post767698 kllngtme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30198 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103934 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming (http://LMS:9000/stream.mp3) only with huge delay
Never really done anything with DNLA devices but first name I do remember is http://www.whitebear.ch/mediaserver jo-wie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17952 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming (http://LMS:9000/stream.mp3) only with huge delay
HellG wrote: Hi, I only recently discovered the LMS and I am very pleased with all its features and its nice gui! As there are not many native players around I started with a Raspberry Pi with squeezelite and my iPhone and various Android tablets as controller. Besides the Raspberry I have various DLNA Media Renderer (DMR) and would like to use them as well as audio sinks. After some search (in fact a really long one...) I found out about Remote Streaming via the hxxp://LMS:9000/stream.mp3 and added an External URL entry in my MediaTomb DLNA Server to let the DMRs connect to that http-stream. As soon as it connects a new client shows up on the LMS and on the associated controllers. But when I started to play music I thought it is somehow broken, because it only worked when I stopped and started the stream on the DMR AFTER I started the music. With some more paitence I found out that everything works fine but with a huge delay! I have not tested it with my TV or Mediaplayer yet, but with VLC and MPlayer the delay between hitting the play button in the web interface and hearing the music is around 70 seconds! Same is for pause and skip forward key. I would really like to add more DMR to play the music in different rooms but with 70 seconds delay this is not very interactive. I think it must have something to do with the serverside caching, as the delay does not change when I change the player cache. Does anybody know how to minimize the delay even or has an idea how to fix this? Cheers, Hellg. One solution would be not to use stream.mp3. Better would be a native player on the client. Squeezeslave comes to mind. One need only make firewall adjustments for 9000 and 3483 and issue squeezeslave target ip I am not here I am banned for life banned for life's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56269 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming (http://LMS:9000/stream.mp3) only with huge delay
Hi, I am already using a DLNA server and DMC software on my iPhone or on my Android. However neither BubbleUPnP nor Kinsky or PlugPlayer have a GUI nearly as nice and powerful (e.g. full text search, internet radio etc.) as the LMS. The whitebear mediaserver does the task I want the other way round: it allows to control the squeezebox clients with a DMC software. I wonder why nobody has ever ask for a plugin that turns a DLNA client into a Squeezebox client. But anyway, I am working on it and every help is welcome. HellG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming (http://LMS:9000/stream.mp3) only with huge delay
If you're using Android devices then a DNLA app should be able to act as a control point for your existing renderers. I know Skifta at least can do this on Android. Again I'm aware it's maybe not the integrated solution you're looking for but could be a solution. Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk 2 jimbobvfr400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming (http://LMS:9000/stream.mp3) only with huge delay
No of course not, never said it did. Sent from my HTC Vision using Tapatalk 2 jimbobvfr400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming (http://LMS:9000/stream.mp3) only with huge delay
pippin wrote: There is no server side caching. It's the client side buffering that determines it. If I were you I would look into more Squeezebox compatible players, then you can also sync them and control the volume. Long term, even a 10s delay will not really be fun to use. You are right, if I use the DLNA client in my TV the caching is much longer. jimbobvfr400 wrote: You could enable the upnp/DNLA plugin in LMS and use your clients that way. It would mean they won't be available to control via LMS or SB apps but for playback and control on the client itself it works very well. For example my LMS shows as a server on my PS3 and I can playback any music on the ps3 itself, including flac and WMA files which aren't supported by the PS3 itself. Using the DLNA server does not help with clients that don't have a display and does not work with the Squeezebox Remote or the server side web interface, and that is exactly why I like the LMS so much in the first place... I think I have to write a plugin that acts as a DLNA Media Controller. It should do the following: - Search for DMR in the network - Add a Slim::Player instance for each (cofigurable) DMR - Play and control the replay of the music titles provided by the UPnP/DLNA plugin on the DMR (not sure if syncing is possible) I found a very nice perl script (https://github.com/amgorb/simple-DLNA-remote-controller/blob/master/start_tvshow.pl) that does all this (not completely, but already close) and if somebody could help me to integrate this into the LMS or point me to some howtos how to integrate it into a plugin I would be very happy. At least on the DMR I tested it is already possible to control the volume I think also feedback about the position (timecode) within the played file is possible. I think I will start with modifying the DMC script and see if it is possible to control the DMRs and have a closer look on one of the example plugins. I am sure I will come back to ask for more information. HellG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote Streaming (http://LMS:9000/stream.mp3) only with huge delay
Hi, I only recently discovered the LMS and I am very pleased with all its features and its nice gui! As there are not many native players around I started with a Raspberry Pi with squeezelite and my iPhone and various Android tablets as controller. Besides the Raspberry I have various DLNA Media Renderer (DMR) and would like to use them as well as audio sinks. After some search (in fact a really long one...) I found out about Remote Streaming via the hxxp://LMS:9000/stream.mp3 and added an External URL entry in my MediaTomb DLNA Server to let the DMRs connect to that http-stream. As soon as it connects a new client shows up on the LMS and on the associated controllers. But when I started to play music I thought it is somehow broken, because it only worked when I stopped and started the stream on the DMR AFTER I started the music. With some more paitence I found out that everything works fine but with a huge delay! I have not tested it with my TV or Mediaplayer yet, but with VLC and MPlayer the delay between hitting the play button in the web interface and hearing the music is around 70 seconds! Same is for pause and skip forward key. I would really like to add more DMR to play the music in different rooms but with 70 seconds delay this is not very interactive. I think it must have something to do with the serverside caching, as the delay does not change when I change the player cache. Does anybody know how to minimize the delay even or has an idea how to fix this? Cheers, Hellg. HellG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59682 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming (http://LMS:9000/stream.mp3) only with huge delay
Initially you shouldlook at two issues 1. Delay in creating the MP3 stream - this depends on host LMS, cpu power, comporession progfram (e.g. lame, shin) 2. Player such as mplayer will cache some data before playing it - if mplayer has too big a cache you will get long startup. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming (http://LMS:9000/stream.mp3) only with huge delay
There is no server side caching. It's the client side buffering that determines it. If I were you I would look into more Squeezebox compatible players, then you can also sync them and control the volume. Long term, even a 10s delay will not really be fun to use. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming (http://LMS:9000/stream.mp3) only with huge delay
You could enable the upnp/DNLA plugin in LMS and use your clients that way. It would mean they won't be available to control via LMS or SB apps but for playback and control on the client itself it works very well. For example my LMS shows as a server on my PS3 and I can playback any music on the ps3 itself, including flac and WMA files which aren't supported by the PS3 itself. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD jimbobvfr400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming (http://LMS:9000/stream.mp3) only with huge delay
jimbobvfr400 wrote: You could enable the upnp/DNLA plugin in LMS and use your clients that way. It would mean they won't be available to control via LMS or SB apps but for playback and control on the client itself it works very well. For example my LMS shows as a server on my PS3 and I can playback any music on the ps3 itself, including flac and WMA files which aren't supported by the PS3 itself. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD but then he wouldn't be able to sync the players. (but maybe that's not needed) garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98602 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming default bitrate
Thanks. I will give it a shot as soon as I get 7.3 running. -- lemmy999 lemmy999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote streaming default bitrate
When I connect to my Squeezecenter from a remote location and start to stream music, the player always defaults to No Limit or 320. If I set it to 96 or 128 it will later remember that setting when I reconnect. Is there anyway to make the default 96 or 128? -- lemmy999 lemmy999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming default bitrate
lemmy999;366465 Wrote: When I connect to my Squeezecenter from a remote location and start to stream music, the player always defaults to No Limit or 320. If I set it to 96 or 128 it will later remember that setting when I reconnect. Is there anyway to make the default 96 or 128? Install my SettingsManager plugin. Attach a remote streaming client. Set its limit to 96, 128, whatever you want. Go to the SettingsManager page and Select that remote streaming client as the source for the settings Click the checkbox next to Basic SqueezeCenter player configuration (server) (if you prefer, you should be able to expand that tree and select only the Network: Bitrate limiting (maxBitrate) setting) In the Copy to choices, select Web Default Click Apply. From that point on, new streaming clients should get your chosen bitrate limit. Streaming clients are identified by IP address, so if you get a connection from a previously seen IP address, its bitrate limiting setting will not be affected, but never-before-seen IP addresses will get the desired limit. I'd encourage you to search on bugs.slimdevices.com and enter a feature request if there's not one already (and vote for any existing feature requests), as you're certainly not the first person to ask for this. -Peter -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver ContextMenu FuzzyTime KitchenTimer PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SettingsManager SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55937 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote Streaming SC 7.2.1
Hi! Remote Streaming works really bad for me after uppgrading from 7.2 to 7.2.1. The stream plays for a few minutes and then just stops and I have to reconnect again. I understand that it could be my connection or thousands other reasons but it never failed for me with 7.2. Kind Regards /Bernt -- bernt 'LastFM' (http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/) SB3 - SC 7.2 - Ubuntu Server 8.04 bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming SC 7.2.1
This was reported and has been fixed already. If you download the trunk of the 7.2.1 line, you will get the fix. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9801 -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 10.2 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.2.1, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming SC 7.2.1
maggior;356281 Wrote: This was reported and has been fixed already. If you download the trunk of the 7.2.1 line, you will get the fix. http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=9801 Nice, thanks. -- bernt 'LastFM' (http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/) SB3 - SC 7.2.1 - Ubuntu Server 8.04 bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming SC 7.2.1
Something you might consider is using squeezeslave rather than remote streaming stream.mp3. I started doing this because the stream.mp3 functionality was broken. It works better for me. This way, playback control is done through one place only - the web GUI. The latency is much less as well. -- maggior Rich - Setup: 2 SB3s, 1 duet, 1 receiver. SuSE 10.2 Server running SqueezeCenter 7.2.1, MusicIP, and SqueezeSlave http://www.last.fm/user/maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming SC 7.2.1
I have tried Sqeezeslave a while ago but I never figured out how to hide the command window. But now I found this script and it works very well. http://www.winhelponline.com/blog/run-bat-files-invisibly-without-displaying-command-prompt/ Thanks! -- bernt 'LastFM' (http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/) SB3 - SC 7.2.1 - Ubuntu Server 8.04 bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming
I am able to get to the squeezecenter web page external to my network, after having opened the 9000 port on my router and directing it at my SC machine. I am even able to admin it remotely, but I have never been able to stream external to my network. It works fine inside my network, by softsqueeze, by Winamp, etc, but getting it to go outside the router it just doesn't work. I cannot connect, and I never get the drop down in the web page to show another player. The closest I have come is putting the url with the stream.mp3 at the end into a web browser, as if I were going to download the mp3 itself, and it did put the drop down in the list, with the name of the browser, and an IP address, but obviously it was not streaming anything, as the browser just thought it was trying to download a file. But I cannot get Winamp to stream it, or anything else. Not even softsqueeze will pick it up, it will just sit there and look at me, trying to connect. I looked for this settings/players/audio/proxy that was mentioned in a previous post, but could not find anything other than setting up a proxy for the server to attach to under Squeezecenter settings/network/proxy. I am assuming for the other to work properly, you probably have to actually be able to connect with a remote streaming app first. -capT -- captain_tinker captain_tinker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12518 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47865 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming
cwinson;303447 Wrote: Reason I'm testing this is I'd like to use a Rivo Pico Wi-Fi as an additional player for the kitchen. Has anyone tried one of these? I've read that Blik Radiostation works fine, so hoping this is the case for the Pico. Any help much appreciated Thanks Chris Look into http://www.privoxy.org/ I use it to stream to an Onkyo unit in my basement from the Squeezecenter interface. It's also very useful as a filter (formerly Junkbuster ) for regular http browsing. Cheers! . -- haunyack haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47865 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming to the office step-by-step
Thanks, maggior. I set up password protection per your suggestion, and successfully connected remotely with winamp and softsqueeze, as well as connected to the squeezecenter web interface. After just a day of playing with this, I have to say that whether I connect with softsqueeze or remote stream with winamp is inconsequential, as I have found that controlling the audio through the squeezecenter web interface is so much more intuitive than the squeezebox's own remote/display. In fact I am now controlling my in-house squeezebox via a web interface in the another room, because I think the interface is far superior to the squeezebox and its remote control. I know it has the same functionality, but the visual layout(including album art) is intuitive and the keyboard/mouse interface is much easier and faster for me to navigate. And with remote streaming and the ability to connect to my squeezecenter web interface, it's pretty amazing that I can listen to my music library from any internet enabled computer. apologies if this sounds like a paid testimonial, but I am digging this. The crazy thing is that someone could get all this remote streaming functionality without ever purchasing any squeezebox or transporter hardware! -- youngnold youngnold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17981 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming to the office step-by-step
Yes you need to forward the 3483 port to your server as well. I have TCP/UDP forwarded, but I have never tested if it realy needs both. -- Sike Sike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2458 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming to the office step-by-step
Sike;308917 Wrote: Yes you need to forward the 3483 port to your server as well. I have TCP/UDP forwarded, but I have never tested if it realy needs both. An alternative to softsqueeze is to use a media player on the remote system that is capable of playing a stream given a URL, such as WinAmp. In this usage scenario, port 3483 doesn't have to be forwarded. On the remote end, you open up http://username:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:9000/stream.mp3 Benefits: - Don't have to install Java and Softsqueeze - Lighter weight - You can use with multiple servers behind a NAT. You can configure each server with a different port (9000), but you can't change the 3483 port. On the web page for squeezecenter on your system, on the help screen you will find a link for remote streaming. This has some good info and could be a starting point for your Wiki. -- maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming to the office step-by-step
Thanks for the more complete explanation, two questions: 1. I like the idea of being able to use winamp to stream from a remote location...in the documentation it states that squeezecenter is designed to stream MP3 files...will the type of remote streaming you(maggior) describe also work with .WMA files? I ripped all my CDs using windows media player, since it was the easiest/fastest way I could find to do so on my PC. 2. do I need to include user name and password as you've outlined? That's the first I've seen mention of that. I'm running windows xp on the server. -- youngnold youngnold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17981 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming to the office step-by-step
youngnold;309142 Wrote: 2. do I need to include user name and password as you've outlined? That's the first I've seen mention of that. I'm running windows xp on the server. -I found out that I didn't need the username/password to connect remotely, I was thinking that you meant the Windows user and password for logging onto the computer, but I think you were referring to the user/pass that one can set up on Squeezecenter in the settings/advanced/security area. - Glad you were able to answer your own questions. That happens to me a lot too :-). And yes, I was referring to the username/password you can set up in Squeezecenter. If you are going to set up remote access, it is really a good idea to protect it with a user name and password. Port 9000 is a well known port value at this point, so it wouldn't be too hard for somebody to gain access to your network through SqueezeCenter. Some would argue that even using the SqueezeCenter username/password isn't enough, but you should use VPN. I haven't gone that far. Certainly you should at least protect yourself with the username and password functionality provided by SqueezeCenter. -- maggior maggior's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9080 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote streaming to the office step-by-step
Help everyone. I'd like to write a wiki on how to remote stream from start to finish. There is a wiki them mentions it but it does not provide enough detail to be sueful at the moment. I don't have remote streaming working yet but these are the steps I believe are necessary. Please feel free to reply here and correct or supplement what I've said so far. 1) Download, load and setup a squeezecenter on a PC in your home. 2) Put some music on it. 3) Assign the PC a static IP address. (By default in the Linksys world the DHCP server begins assigning IP address at 100, in other words 192.168.1.100) So in this case I assigned my music server 192.168.1.99. 4) Enter the router configuration (usually enter 192.168.1.1 in your browser) and locate the port forwarding section. Add an entry for forwarding port 9000 to the newly assigned IP address. 5) Since you need to know the public IP address for your router (in order to hit it from the outside world) signup with a dynamic DNS service. These services will allow you to create an account on their system, then load a small client program on your machine that will keep their system updated when your ISP changes your router's Ip address. I used www.dyndns.com. 6) Load softsqueeze on the remote computer and enter the host name you created with your dynamic DNS provider :9000 as the location of your music server. For example mymusic.selfip.com:9000 -- mskvarenina mskvarenina's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming to the office step-by-step
The above post was not the complete ho-to. At this point I'm still have problems getting this to work. I've got a static IP on my home squeezecenter PC. My router is port forwarding port 9000 to this PC. I'm able to ping my router from my office. When I start softsqueeze it says Connection failed. Please check server settings. In the SoftSqueeze preferences I've got the hostname set to my home router's IP :9000 What is the SlimProto Port? It's pre-filled in with 3483. Do I need to forward this port in my router also? -- mskvarenina mskvarenina's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17717 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48517 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming
Thanks for the replies guys. Have done a bit more research on the buffering and it seems that windows media player is particularly bad (if that's the right term) at buffering the mp3 stream. It effectively downloads as much as is can, which means you changing the stream (skipping songs for example) takes a long time to respons (minutes). Tried using winamp as a player and it doen't download quite as aggressively. Appears to only download/buffer 5 seconds ahead of the current position, so commands only take 5 seconds to take effect, which is manageable. Question is I guess whether the Pico downloads agressively like windows media player or behaves like winamp. Ideally, it would be configurable. -- cwinson cwinson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17447 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47865 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming
cwinson wrote: Thanks for the replies guys. Have done a bit more research on the buffering and it seems that windows media player is particularly bad (if that's the right term) at buffering the mp3 stream. It effectively downloads as much as is can, which means you changing the stream (skipping songs for example) takes a long time to respons (minutes). Tried using winamp as a player and it doen't download quite as aggressively. Appears to only download/buffer 5 seconds ahead of the current position, so commands only take 5 seconds to take effect, which is manageable. Question is I guess whether the Pico downloads agressively like windows media player or behaves like winamp. Ideally, it would be configurable. I'm not sure about the current generation, but past squeezeboxes had their local buffers watched and controlled by the server. That's how slimdevices got the responsiveness they wanted. i.e. When skipping to the next cut from the middle of the current cut, the server just flushed the local buffer (poof) and you never hear those 4 to 5 seconds of music that you do with winamp. If you don't interface with the SqueezeCenter / Slimserver in this native manner, you will not be able to avoid playing out the local buffer. And you really don't want to skimp on the buffer either. Think of the bursty nature of your network. So, unless Pico interfaces natively (i.e. uses the Slimdevice's protocol) you will have some lag time. But really, how often do you skip around your music collection? - well, after the novelty has worn off. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming
pski;303793 Wrote: The Duet won't be streaming the same way. Everything will be going down as FLAC. The response of the controller is (in my experience) sub-second and the buffer in the receiver will only be apparent if you stop SC abnormally.. players will continue for several seconds. Skipping will be as responsive. No it won't. Above, he said: Reason I'm testing this is I'd like to use a Rivo Pico Wi-Fi as an additional player for the kitchen. Has anyone tried one of these? I've read that Blik Radiostation works fine, so hoping this is the case for the Pico. So the streaming to the Rivo Pico will be exactly the same when he gets his Duet as it is now being controlled from the web interface. -- andynormancx andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47865 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming
cwinson;303471 Wrote: Found a solution: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=301978#post301978 Installed lame.exe and set the file type setting. Can now stream music to wmp. Next problem - I can play music files, but can't control them with any certainty from the web interface (and presumable from the duet controller when it arrives). Looks like the mp3 stream is getting heavily buffered at the client side, so if I skip tracks, it's too late as it's already been sent and queued Chris Hi Chris, The Duet won't be streaming the same way. Everything will be going down as FLAC. The response of the controller is (in my experience) sub-second and the buffer in the receiver will only be apparent if you stop SC abnormally.. players will continue for several seconds. Skipping will be as responsive. I had experimented with streaming to Winamp remotely and the problems you talk about were very apparent.. different setup with Slim hardware... -- pski pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47865 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote streaming
Hi all - first post, so please be gentle. Have taken the plunge and ordered a duet. Awaiting delivery, but have got a squeeze center and softsqueeze setup up and running. Have been also trying to get remote streaming working via stream.mp3, but can't get any sound to come through. Other posts have suggested setting the secutity settings for the server, but I can't find them in squeeze center. Am I being stupid? Reason I'm testing this is I'd like to use a Rivo Pico Wi-Fi as an additional player for the kitchen. Has anyone tried one of these? I've read that Blik Radiostation works fine, so hoping this is the case for the Pico. Any help much appreciated Thanks Chris -- cwinson cwinson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17447 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47865 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote streaming
Found a solution: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=301978#post301978 Installed lame.exe and set the file type setting. Can now stream music to wmp. Next problem - I can play music files, but can't control them with any certainty from the web interface (and presumable from the duet controller when it arrives). Looks like the mp3 stream is getting heavily buffered at the client side, so if I skip tracks, it's too late as it's already been sent and queued Chris -- cwinson cwinson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17447 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47865 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming
davep;302465 Wrote: Pippin, have you seen SimplifyMedia in action on an iPhone/iPod Touch? I know that this has nothing to do with using Squeezecenter but it does actually allow streaming audio on the iPhone. I have sat in San Francisco and streamed music (mp3) from my home server in Hong Kong via my iPod Touch with no problems. SimplifyMedia is free and includes server apps for XP, OSX and Linux plus clients for various devices including (a pretty neat) one for the iPhone/Touch. davep Davep, that's what I meant. They don't actually stream, they play the files on your server. There's not a big difference if you do it right and it has the potential to conserve some power. However, this still means you cannot connect an iPhone directly to the SC mp3-stream since this is a stream, not a file and you cannot play files since SC does not allow byte range requests, otherwise you would have access, e.g. through Songinfo which gives you a link to download files. If you want streaming, vote for the bug ;-) I would know how to make playlists play, then... -- pippin --- see iPeng at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47684 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] remote streaming
I should know how to do this, but cannot figure it out. I would love to stream my music collection from my Thecus 5200 NAS (located in my house) to my computer at work. How is that accomplished? Also, I would love to be able to stream to an iPhone. Is that possible and if so, how? ANy assisatance will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47684 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming
Hi Shredder I assume you want to use Squeezecenter. You can stream to any streamable device by connecting to the http://localhost:9000/stream.mp3 If you want softsqueeze or the stream to work at the office, you either need to set up a VPN or SSH tunnel. You can look around the forums for various solutions. I do it by setting up firewall rules on my home router. My IP hardly ever changes and I even have a couple of SB3s scattered around holiday homes and office and can use them from my central Squeezecenter. -- Sike Sike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2458 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47684 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming
What is a VPN or SSH tunnel? -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47684 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming
Shredder;302267 Wrote: What is a VPN or SSH tunnel? You can create a secure channel through the internet. Mostly used for companies with multiple locations. You can connect 2 offices (or many more) together through the internet without having to worry about people getting in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vpn There are some guides on here with programs i have never used. Try a search. -- Sike Sike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2458 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47684 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming
Shredder;302232 Wrote: I should know how to do this, but cannot figure it out. I would love to stream my music collection from my Thecus 5200 NAS (located in my house) to my computer at work. How is that accomplished? Also, I would love to be able to stream to an iPhone. Is that possible and if so, how? ANy assisatance will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. General steps.. assuming you have a cable/adsl connection (and winders) and that your SC machine is connected to the cable/dsl box WITHOUT a router/wireless access point in-between... Most cable setups give you a static (unchanging IP address) and many phone companies DSL automatically give you a static address when you have higher speeds. 1. at the home computer, open a browser and go to www.whatismyip.com. Write down this external IP address. 2. open a command window and type ipconfig enter write down the IP address and the default gateway (assuming you are on the machine running SC.) 3. in a browser window key http://default gateway address enter Mine is http://192.168.0.111 This should display the configuration screen for your cable/dsl modem. This is the tricky part because there are so many different models. I've used Netopia and Westell (ATT) modems so I'll give you them as an example.. 4. You will be looking for NAT setup. In my modems you go to expert mode/configure/NAT. BACKGROUND: what we want to do is to tell the modem that when it sees business from the outside world (internet/work) on a particular PORT number, forward that traffic to the SC machine. There are two ports involved, TCP 9000 and TCP 3483. Default behavior for these modems is to reject ANY inbound traffic from the internet that hasn't been requested by a computer on the inside. This is a good thing, preventing the outside world from seeing the network in your home. In my netopia, I have to define a service (as port forwarding, range of ports) from ports 9000 through 9000 to base port 9000. Then I do the same for port 3483. When I tell the modem to enable these services, it asks which computer address I want them to be sent to. Here you enter the IP address from the ipconfig screen (the address of the machine that is running SC.) Some modems may let you fill this info into a form rather than having a two-step process and some modems will show the names of the machines in addition to IP addresses when you select the target. 5. go here http://www.rarewares.org/mp3-lame-bundle.php and download lame. This is the code that will compress your music on-the-fly as you play it remotely. Put LAME.EXE in C:\program files\squeezecenter\server\bin\mswin32-x86-multi-thread You don't need the .DLL version. You'll know it's the right place because it will have alac.exe, flac.exe, sox.exe, etc. 6. go to the outside world and open a browser, keying the address: http://whatismyip:9000 where whatismyip is the external IP address from the earlier step. The http:// is very important if you are using a newer version of Internet Explorer because they don't make a guess about which protocol to use on non-standard ports (like 9000) If everything has been done right, you should see SC. If you don't, it's possible that port 9000 is blocked by your IT people. Tough luck. Try again from a public WiFi to see if you've got the configuration right. 7. go to extras and install SoftSqueeze. 8. things may be ok at this point, but I would rename the SoftSqueeze player and change it's Audio settings to about 128K. The Lame quality setting you use depends on how fast your SC machine is ... 9. advanced diddling: run SoftSqueeze. open SC, select the SoftSqueeze player and go to HELP/Server and Network Health. Pick a speed and the results will be shown on the SoftSqueeze display and in SC. This is testing the outbound speed of your home broadband connection. If you have a very fast connection at home, you can push this up but REMEMBER... you'll also be sucking bandwidth from your employer's inbound connection so it might be better to be reasonable (and not attract attention...) -- pski pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47684 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming
If you do have a router, don't forget to port forward the same ports as usual , the ones you had to open in your firewall to get SC to work at home. If you don't have an fixed IP you can use some kind of Dynamic DNS service, either from the router or PC (whatever fits you setup). You migth have to restart Softsqueeze while your server is shifting IP. And password protection IS working with the duet now. A nice extra is Wake On Lan over internet, so that you can boot the music server from the internet. but this is highly dependent on the hardware involved, computer, router etc. It is not possible for everyone to do this. I,m listening in rigth now from a hotell room somewhere :) i'm travelling a lot often away 1 to 3 weeks in a row. I realy like this feature -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47684 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming
Mnyb;302320 Wrote: If you don't have an fixed IP you can use some kind of Dynamic DNS service, either from the router or PC (whatever fits you setup). You migth have to restart Softsqueeze while your server is shifting IP. Before I had a static address, I used some Java to talk to the modem and compare the IP to the one previously stored in a file. When the IP changed, it would email me the new address.. I'll see if I can find that (but it's been three machines ago.) -- pski pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47684 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming
Shredder;302232 Wrote: Also, I would love to be able to stream to an iPhone. Is that possible and if so, how? Currently: not. The problem is twofold: 1. iPhone can't play streaming music. The only exception is iRadio which can play mp3 streams but there seems to be no way to define a custom stream to play :-( I know, there are services who claim to play streaming music, but what they do is, they make the iPhone download single tracks and play them. Which gets us to... 2. SqueezeCenter does not support byte range access so you can't even download tracks from the SC web interface :-( There's bug for that, you could vote for it to be fixed (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6266) Sike;302259 Wrote: One last thing. If you have an iPhone take a look at iPeng! You definitely should ;-) You can control SC with that using your iPhone. -- pippin --- see iPeng at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47684 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming
Thanks for all the info. everyone. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47684 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming
pippin;302360 Wrote: Currently: not. The problem is twofold: 1. iPhone can't play streaming music. The only exception is iRadio which can play mp3 streams but there seems to be no way to define a custom stream to play :-( I know, there are services who claim to play streaming music, but what they do is, they make the iPhone download single tracks and play them. Which gets us to... 2. SqueezeCenter does not support byte range access so you can't even download tracks from the SC web interface :-( There's bug for that, you could vote for it to be fixed (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6266) You definitely should ;-) You can control SC with that using your iPhone. An interesting thread earlier was Squeezecenter in your car. I have a Nokia phone with both 3+G and WiFi. I have no trouble using it (Handheld skin) to control SC but when I tried to run SoftSqueeze, I get an invalid JAR error. Any possibility of an S60-based SoftSqueeze? p -- pski pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47684 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming
Quoting pski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Shredder;302232 Wrote: I should know how to do this, but cannot figure it out. I would love to stream my music collection from my Thecus 5200 NAS (located in my house) to my computer at work. How is that accomplished? Also, I would love to be able to stream to an iPhone. Is that possible and if so, how? ANy assisatance will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. General steps.. assuming you have a cable/adsl connection (and winders) and that your SC machine is connected to the cable/dsl box WITHOUT a router/wireless access point in-between... Most cable setups give you a static (unchanging IP address) and many phone companies DSL automatically give you a static address when you have higher speeds. 1. at the home computer, open a browser and go to www.whatismyip.com. Write down this external IP address. 2. open a command window and type ipconfig enter write down the IP address and the default gateway (assuming you are on the machine running SC.) 3. in a browser window key http://default gateway address enter Mine is http://192.168.0.111 This should display the configuration screen for your cable/dsl modem. This is the tricky part because there are so many different models. I've used Netopia and Westell (ATT) modems so I'll give you them as an example.. 4. You will be looking for NAT setup. In my modems you go to expert mode/configure/NAT. BACKGROUND: what we want to do is to tell the modem that when it sees business from the outside world (internet/work) on a particular PORT number, forward that traffic to the SC machine. There are two ports involved, TCP 9000 and TCP 3483. Default behavior for these modems is to reject ANY inbound traffic from the internet that hasn't been requested by a computer on the inside. This is a good thing, preventing the outside world from seeing the network in your home. In my netopia, I have to define a service (as port forwarding, range of ports) from ports 9000 through 9000 to base port 9000. Then I do the same for port 3483. When I tell the modem to enable these services, it asks which computer address I want them to be sent to. Here you enter the IP address from the ipconfig screen (the address of the machine that is running SC.) Some modems may let you fill this info into a form rather than having a two-step process and some modems will show the names of the machines in addition to IP addresses when you select the target. 5. go here http://www.rarewares.org/mp3-lame-bundle.php and download lame. This is the code that will compress your music on-the-fly as you play it remotely. Put LAME.EXE in C:\program files\squeezecenter\server\bin\mswin32-x86-multi-thread You don't need the .DLL version. You'll know it's the right place because it will have alac.exe, flac.exe, sox.exe, etc. 6. go to the outside world and open a browser, keying the address: http://whatismyip:9000 where whatismyip is the external IP address from the earlier step. The http:// is very important if you are using a newer version of Internet Explorer because they don't make a guess about which protocol to use on non-standard ports (like 9000) If everything has been done right, you should see SC. If you don't, it's possible that port 9000 is blocked by your IT people. Tough luck. Try again from a public WiFi to see if you've got the configuration right. 7. go to extras and install SoftSqueeze. 8. things may be ok at this point, but I would rename the SoftSqueeze player and change it's Audio settings to about 128K. The Lame quality setting you use depends on how fast your SC machine is ... 9. advanced diddling: run SoftSqueeze. open SC, select the SoftSqueeze player and go to HELP/Server and Network Health. Pick a speed and the results will be shown on the SoftSqueeze display and in SC. This is testing the outbound speed of your home broadband connection. If you have a very fast connection at home, you can push this up but REMEMBER... you'll also be sucking bandwidth from your employer's inbound connection so it might be better to be reasonable (and not attract attention...) Nice writeup. This needs to go on the wiki. dd ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming
The only thing that need to be remembered is that the built in Username/Password in Squeezecenter is not that secure. It is meant to stop Kids/Flatmates from changing anything on the Squeezeserver. -- Sike Sike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2458 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47684 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming
Pippin, have you seen SimplifyMedia in action on an iPhone/iPod Touch? I know that this has nothing to do with using Squeezecenter but it does actually allow streaming audio on the iPhone. I have sat in San Francisco and streamed music (mp3) from my home server in Hong Kong via my iPod Touch with no problems. SimplifyMedia is free and includes server apps for XP, OSX and Linux plus clients for various devices including (a pretty neat) one for the iPhone/Touch. davep -- davep davep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47684 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote streaming
Hi! I stream music from SC7 at home to WMP at work. Is there a way to make the player to stick in SC even if it's not connected? For some reason it get disconnected everytime a playlist ends. This did'nt happen in SS 6.5. -- bernt http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/ bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45725 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming and SC7.01
A made two simple experiments Changed to a simplier password no luck. typed the http://user:pass@my dyndns:9000/stream.mp3 in another browser window. Then quicktime atempted to play the stream, mozilla apeared as player in SC7 but i got no sound from Quicktime. So SC7 accept the passw this way. Any suggestions of another player? I got foobar2000 in my winXP partion at home but it's a lot of things to setup before it starts to be usefull -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45389 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming and SC7.01
I use WMP for remote streaming and it works fine with user\password. For me it takes sometimes 5-10 min before it starts playing after I loaded a playlist. -- bernt http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/ bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45389 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming and SC7.01
But if SqueezeCenter is playing music controlled by the SBC and I want to play music from the SC via internet, I see in the main menu which player is 'active'. I can choose then the other internet player. But can you not hear both at the same time?? -- Svanur ...It's not the Years in a Life, it's the Life in the Years... Svanur's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15840 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45389 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] remote streaming and SC7.01
Hi folks I,m not realy sure if this is newbie Q if so move it there.. I'm using this nifty feature of remote streaming, worked around most problems thanks to help page and wiki. I'm actually listening rigth now :). I'm using winamp for it. But i'm not able to use password with SC7 i'm only getting 400 bad request when i'm doing that ? I'm using this suggested linking http://username:password@my dyndns name:9000/stream.mp3 ?? Another Question how do setup proxys with softsqueeze ?? today i'm behind the company firewall and winamp has proxy settings. when travelling i have such trouble as i'm allowed to directly access internet from hotells then i use softsqueeze. Thanks in advance -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45389 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming and SC7.01
Mnyb;284275 Wrote: But i'm not able to use password with SC7 i'm only getting 400 bad request when i'm doing that ? I'm using this suggested linking http://username:password@my dyndns name:9000/stream.mp3 ?? Make sure your username/password don't contain any weird character. Try it with something simple which is just letters numbers to see if that works. Another Question how do setup proxys with softsqueeze ?? today i'm behind the company firewall and winamp has proxy settings. when travelling i have such trouble as i'm allowed to directly access internet from hotells then i use softsqueeze. Most proxies that I come across are setup to only allow web (HTTP) traffic, so softsqueeze wouldn't work anyway as it's using a different protocol. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45389 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming and SC7.01
my user and password are fairly simple, the web interface is working with it, but i cant get winamp to use it ? no #¤*~@ characters. my pass is 10 characters long and my name is 6 ? I read somewhere that winamp could promt you for passw ? how do I accomplish that. Maybe i'm fiddled enough for today, do I need to restart the server or are password changes made if i press apply in settings? I'm actaully running some sort of tech support desk at work today, omg :)(hence the need for music between cals) I'm normaly a feild service/comission guy. /Mikael Btw company firewall would'nt allow puTTY to SSH or https at port 81 so i'm probably better of trying this when i'm traveling, when i'm directly at the internet. Restarts of server or squeezecenter service would'nt be possible from the office ? -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45389 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming and SC7.01
Mnyb;284304 Wrote: I read somewhere that winamp could promt you for passw ? how do I accomplish that. Don't know, sorry - don't use winamp much these days. Maybe i'm fiddled enough for today, do I need to restart the server or are password changes made if i press apply in settings? Don't think so. Restarts of server or squeezecenter service would'nt be possible from the office ? Not unless you used some other application like GoToMyPC or VNC over SSH. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45389 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming from slimserver via winamp
You must have lame installed for stream.mp3 -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41041 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming from slimserver via winamp
This that I have to do to make it work. First connect the player, load a playlist, and reconnect the player. Most of the time I need to reconnect the player 2-3 times after I loaded the playlist before it starts playing. -- bernt http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/ bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41041 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming from slimserver via winamp
I installed on a test machine at a different location and it worked well with SC 7.0. Thanks forn quit reply. Richard -- rcole731 rcole731's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14352 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41041 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming from slimserver via winamp
Okay what is lame? I have not seen anything on this. Richard -- rcole731 rcole731's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14352 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41041 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming from slimserver via winamp
The SS/SC must be connected to the correct 'player'. You may be playing a song, but it might be playing on your home squeezebox! When multiple players are connected, either SB's or stream devices, there is a small drop down box on the right pane to choose from. Make sure the correct player has been chosen. HTH, Allan. -- alZmtbr alZmtbr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41041 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] remote streaming from slimserver via winamp
Good wiki entry on using stream.mp3 including details on lame which is essential to convert audio into MP3. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RemoteStreaming -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41041 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] remote streaming from slimserver via winamp
Here is the senario. I am trying to stream my music from slimserver to my laptop via winamp. Winamp connects but no music streams. This accurs on the internal and external network. If I use softsqueeze I can connect internally. I am using ver 6.5 of slimserver and ver. 5.5 of winamp. All port forwarding are correct and firewalls are down on both machines.I installed ver 7.0 beta and was able to receive the radio stations on my laptop using both the servers internal an external address, but when I tried the stream.mp3 I would connect and see the correct song playing on slimserver but once again no music. I am using Windows xp pro on the server and Vista on the laptop. Ports 3483 and port 9000 are open and forwarding on my linksys router. I am stumped on this one. Thanks Richard -- rcole731 rcole731's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14352 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41041 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote Streaming and Metadata
Is there any method of remote streaming (ie http://myserverip:900/stream.mp3) from Slimserver that preserves the metadata on the tracks being played? Normally the remote player simply displays Welcome to Slimserver - How does one change this message? And is it possible to transfer the metadata properly to the player so that it shows what any self-respecting internet radio station will show on a display, ie track, artist etc data as well as the name of the station? If so, how? Thanks! --Richard E PS: Apologies if this is covered elsewhere but I searched for 45 minutes with all the terms I could imagine and either got no answers or wy too many. -- relen relen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming and Metadata
streaming to my Nokia770 is a two step process: get the stream connection using the audio player; then getting the web-server at port 9000 up on the opera browser to actually choose what to play (using the right player from the drop down box). Took me awhile to figure that one out - how is what's playing get chosen??? is what I asked myself. I also found out that someone sitting at the computer (the Wife) can mess with what I'm listening to in the basement. Doh! Much to her delight... HTH Allan -- alZmtbr alZmtbr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8773 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming and Metadata
alZmtbr;237385 Wrote: edit: The metadata is then shown in the browser window, not the player. So teh question is: without a browser, can the music to be streamed be chosen??? AFAIK playback can not be controlled via stream.mp3. I think the current options for playback control are via CLI (or the web-interface). I think the original question was whether its possible to get slimserver to properly embed the metadata in the stream. This is what almost all internet radio stations do. I'm also very interested in the answer to that question. Regards, Bjørn -- bhaagensen bhaagensen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7418 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=39592 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote streaming access from a WM5 PPC?
Hi all - I searched the boards and couldn't really find anything so I thought I would throw this inquiry out to the teeming masses. I have a Treo (700wx) Windows Mobile 5 Pocket PC device and would love to find some solution (either elegant or band-aid) that would allow me to connect to SlimServer and/or Network when I'm out of town and stream both my media library and more importantly, gain access to stream Rhapsody. I thought about Orb 2.0 but that will only give me my media library completely outside of Squeezebox. Ultimately, I'm thinking maybe it might have to be a GoToMyPC.com type solution to control SoftSqueeze but I was hoping to find something that doesn't carry monthly service charges. Anyone have any suggestions or ideas? In absence of REALNetworks allowing for their own native streaming of Rhapsody from a PPC device, I would love an idea that allow me to enjoy the subscription when I'm away from home, without having to fill a memory card up with downloaded songs in advance, via Rhapsody-to-go. Any thoughts? I'm sure I'm not the only one that would enjoy gaining Rhapsody access while away via Squeeze? Thanks, RobbW -- RobbW RobbW's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4764 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32952 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote Streaming Restriction
I would be grateful if some of you could help me understand something. I like to have access to my full music collection while I am travelling. Connecting over the internet to my home machine and streaming from Slimserver has allowed me to do just that. Sometimes I will use my laptop but on other times I use my wifi capable Palm TX, they both work fine for most of my music which is stored in FLAC format. However, I have noticed that whenever I try to stream an alienBBC stream from slimserver using my Palm TX slimserver it just stops and pressing start does nothing. The palm has a music player called pocket tunes which I think only plays mp3's. I have therefore presumed that this is because the BBC stream is in realplayer (or something). But if that is the case how does it successfully handle the FLAC files? -- RalphO RalphO's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3619 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31984 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote Streaming issues
I have recently been streaming mp3 from SS to myself at work. That works fine generally but I have noticed 2 issues:- 1) Random play - if I select the 'work player' on the top right of SS and try and add or play a random song list in that player it keeps switching back to the 'home player' and adds the songs to that player instead of the 'work' player. It only seems to do this with random and playing a single track or album is fine. Might this be a bug ? 2) when I have been streaming to work, the SS homepage and SB don't seem to behave themselves when I get home and try to use the system. I find I have re-boot the pc to get it back. Issues are no playback on the SB and the :9000 page refuses to open. Any thoughts welcome. -- ncpl ncpl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6305 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28866 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote streaming with Palm/Treo 700p: security questions
Hi there. I've been been using my two Squeezeboxes for about 6 months now and LOVE them. Thank you to all the developers and all the forum posters out there. I just purchased a Palm/Treo 700p and have set up remote streaming and remote access to my home computer's (Win XP Pro) SlimServer website. I'm doing this by forwarding port 9000 on my router (wrt54g). I'm using SlimServer user/password and also blocking requests except for the IP of my smartphone (which hasn't seemed to change over the last few days so I'm assuming it's mostly static). My question is: how secure is this? Has anyone tried to hack a system configured as such? I've read the few posts suggesting ssh, but I'm not sure if that can be set up on a palm 700p. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks in advance! Dan -- dperrigan dperrigan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7780 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28192 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote streaming problem
Hi all, I have 2 Squeezeboxes at home Slim Server 6.2.1 on XP. All works well as it has done for quite a few years. I've just starting playing with remote streaming for the first time, and have run into a problem. I can browse the server fine remotely, and also stream mp3 files. However, when I try to play an AAC file, Slim just simply won't play it (ie the display won't change from 'stopped' to 'playing'). Is this a limitation, or is there a fix? I'm using the http://hostname/stream.mp3 link (maybe there's a clue there ;-) Cheers, -- bugs bugs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26636 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] remote streaming: can slimserver stream ogg vorbis?
Hi, Is it possible to setup slimserver so that http://myslimserver:9000/stream.ogg produces an Ogg Vorbis stream? I'd like to be able to have a 64kB Vorbis stream to listen to at work. -- toojays toojays's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5502 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25578 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] remote streaming/iTunes/Network Stalls
I'm using iTunes and ssh to remote stream 320kbps mp3 files to a laptop. In general, it works - however, peridically iTunes will pop up a dialog box that states Network Stalled - Rebuffering Stream. Then playback will resume. At first I thought this rebuffering message happened at about the same time as the web brower automatic refresh - but I shut down the browser and it still happens. Also, I went into iTunes and set the buffer to Large for streaming (in the preferences section) - but that did not seem to help. I wish that there was some way I could tell it to take 4 or 5 seconds at the beginning of the song and just buffer most of the song. It seems to be on the edge of working - but just not quite there yet. This is over a Cable Modem - there should be sufficient bandwidth available. BTW, I did an informal listeing comparison to MusicMatch (which I paid for) and iTunes (which I downloaded free) - and I was disapointed that I could tell that iTunes sounded significantly better to me. Has anyone else noticed that? Darn it... I might not have paid for MusicMatch if I'd know that! ;-) Kevin -- kkitts kkitts's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1993 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19890 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Remote Streaming Over Internet
I'd like to try this and play my files when I'm somewhere else, but I need some help. I know I have to open up ports 9000 and 3483, but: - how do I know what IP address my home PC is presenitng to the outside world - I have a SpeedTouch Broadband modem? - do I have to use iTunes or WinAmp remotely; can't I just connect to the IP address using Slimserver directly? -- Neil ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote Streaming Over Internet
- how do I know what IP address my home PC is presenitng to the outside world - I have a SpeedTouch Broadband modem? Use a service like dyndns.org. - do I have to use iTunes or WinAmp remotely; can't I just connect to the IP address using Slimserver directly? You can configure your SB manually to connect to that ip address. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Remote streaming with Netgear router?
Toby, I have exactly the same setup. Are you using the router as a modem as well? Also do you know how to access the web interface? Is you PC already connected wirelessly? Drop me a mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I will give you the additional instructions that you need. Regards, Carl Maskelyne PaperPak Systems IT Manager Mobile Telephone : 07971 659494 Attends website : www.attends.co.uk This message and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. The information contained in this e-mail may be subject to public disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act 2000. Unless the information is legally exempt from disclosure, the confidentiality of this e-mail and your reply cannot be guaranteed. Emails sent from PaperPak that contain commercially sensitive data should not be disclosed to third parties that may benefit from this knowledge. This e-mail and attachments have been scanned for viruses prior to leaving PaperPak however the company will not be liable for any losses as a result of any viruses being passed on. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 February 2005 09:12 To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com Subject: [slim] Remote streaming with Netgear router? Hi I've been scouring the archives as well as Google but can't seem to find what I'm looking for, which is a step by step guide for total newbies as to how to set up remote streaming from a computer attached to a Netgear router. The Slimserver software is running from a PC connected wirelessly to a Netgear DG834G router. I know I need to go into the Netgear admin page and change some settings, but as a newbie to this it's all Greek to me. I have no idea what I'm doing in there! It's simple enough to get the /stream.mp3 going, but I can't get the Slimserver software to recognise it as a player, so the play controls on the Slimserver page are blanked out. Would someone be so kind as to point me towards a very basic step by step guide on configuring the router so that it will work with remote streaming? Eternally grateful! thanks toby ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
