Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-16 Thread Fizbin

Joggler working A-OK. No setup required, it was connected as soon as it
booted up. Probably because I had it connected to the wifi router
downstairs. Thanks for all your help. The good ol' WRT54GL still has its
uses. Can't believe they still sell them new. I got mine for $10 on
Craigslist.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-16 Thread Fizbin

Tonight I will plug the Transporter into the wired router. We'll see
what happens.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-16 Thread Fizbin

d6jg wrote: 
> He never mentioned the dual network on his PC before now. Not once.

Not true. How could I have hooked my Joggler to the downstairs WIFI
router and have access to my upstairs PC?


d6jg wrote: 
> He was asked numerous times for details but chose to ignore for whatever
> reason.

I already told you that both routers were using the same IP. This has
been remedied.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-16 Thread Fizbin

Man in a van wrote: 
> I now nowt about these things, but would resetting the router to the
> default firmware make any difference to ease with which Fizzers could
> accomplish his task? :confused:
> 
> 
> Ronnie

Already flashed to default Linksys firmware. The only reason I did it
was because Tomato was reporting that LAN 2 was being used, when LAN 1
was connected. To me, that was a big red flag not to use Tomato.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-16 Thread d6jg

He never mentioned the dual network on his PC before now. Not once.
He was asked numerous times for details but chose to ignore for whatever
reason.

In those circumstances the sensible thing to have done was to use
homeplugs to connect the existing wifi router to his switch and then
reconfigure his PC and transporter to get DHCP addresses. He could then
have switched off wireless on the PC and things would have been much
faster.
Obviously the homeplugs must be on the same ring main.

He can however do what he has done as long as the 2 routers have
different IPs and ranges.

Windows should find the fastest route to the Internet which will be via
wifi. The metric stuff is unnecessary. It is for when you have 2 full
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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-16 Thread Man in a van

I now nowt about these things, but would resetting the router to the
default firmware make any difference to ease with which Fizzers could
accomplish his task? :confused:


Ronnie



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-15 Thread Fizbin

Both routers were the same.

Starting ip address 192.168.1.100 (Both)

ip address range 192.168.1.100 to 149 (Both)

Local IP Address 192.168.1.1 (Both)

The only difference was the wireless router has some DNS
entries...probably for the ISP.

So I changed the "wired router" to 192.168.0.1

At first I STILL couldn't get ethernet and wifi to work at the same
time. So I tried the metric settings again (giving wifi priority) and
now it works. To confirm it was the manual metric that needed to be set,
I switched back to auto metric and it didn't work. Went to manual again
and it works. I still don't like having to do that. It seems like a
band-aid solution. It's almost like when it's set to auto that they have
the same priority, which shouldn't be the case.

I just hope my Transporter/Joggler work ok with ethernet manually set to
the lower priority. But I haven't gotten that far yet.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-15 Thread d6jg

Fizbin wrote: 
> I had a feeling that might be the issue. When I use IE to login, it
> actually tells me where I am logging into. IE reports that it's trying
> to log me into the WIFI PC downstairs. 
> 
> So how do I assign the "wired router" (upstairs) a different IP?

If you answer the question we will be able to tell you.

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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-15 Thread Fizbin

I had a feeling that might be the issue. When I use IE to login, it
actually tells me where I am logging into. IE reports that it's trying
to log me into the WIFI PC downstairs. 

So how do I assign the "wired router" (upstairs) a different IP?



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-15 Thread d6jg

Fizbin wrote: 
> Anyone know why my added router would make my WIFI/Internet slower?
> Sometimes sites randomly take longer to connect. Once connected the
> speed is the same.

The IP range on the new router isn't the same as the wifi is it ?

At a command prompt do ipconfig /all

What is the IP address under the Wi-Fi adapter ?
What is the IP address under the LAN adapter ?



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-15 Thread Fizbin

Anyone know why my added router would make my WIFI/Internet slower?
Sometimes sites randomly take longer to connect. Once connected the
speed is the same.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-15 Thread Fizbin

I seemed to have found the answer. Both are working now. (Haven't
connected the Transporter/Joggler yet). 

In case anyone is curious the instructions I found were here:

http://superuser.com/questions/479654/how-to-use-wireless-and-wired-connection-both-at-a-same-time-in-windows-7

"The trick is to change the network card priority" (Posted by Steve)



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-15 Thread Fizbin

I got a used Linksys WRT54GL (with Tomato firmware) and when I hook it
to my PC (using LAN 1 connection) my PC's internet via wifi goes bye
bye. I have the routers WIFI disabled since I'm using it as a wired
router.

So to recap from above:

-My Windows 8.1 PC is (or was) wired connected to a switch to my
Transporter. (Fixed IP)
-PC gets internet via WIFI from another PC downstairs.
-I'm swapping the switch for a router because my joggler can't connect
via fixed IP (using a switch). There is no internet connection going to
this router.
-Connecting the router (with WIFI set to disabled) disables my internet.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-10 Thread Fizbin

Can anyone tell me if a modern router would be any better for me than an
old Linksys WRT54GL? I see lots of these on craigslist. Keep in mind
that I'm disabling wireless...using wired only.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-08 Thread Fizbin

Ah, silly me. Ok.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-08 Thread d6jg

Fizbin wrote: 
> Not sure what that means.

The D in DHCP is dynamic. The Joggler & Transporter need to get their
IPs from the DHCP server. Depending upon how often you reboot them the
IPs could change dynamically.

The PC on the other hand is acting as a server (LMS) so the 2 clients
(Transporter & Joggler) really need to know where to find it and ideally
the address should never change. In this case you give the PC a static
Ip address that is in the same range as the 2 others but outside the
scope of the DHCP pool.

> Make that two devices. I'm selling the Touch soon. :) (Will just have
> the Transporter and Joggler to control)

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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-08 Thread Fizbin

> Normally you would make the IP of the LMS PC static

Not sure what that means.

> but in your case this won't matter as there are only 3 devices.

Make that two devices. I'm selling the Touch soon. :) (Will just have
the Transporter and Joggler to control)



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-08 Thread d6jg

Fizbin wrote: 
> Sometimes I turn my PC (with LMS) off at night. I don't have a ton of
> files in my LMS directory to scan, so that's not an issue for me. How
> problematic could things get if I go from fixed IP to DHCP? For example,
> when I turn on my Transporter or Joggler (after rebooting my PC) will
> they be connected to the network?

No problem. Whenever you boot up a device it will be connected to the
network. Normally you would make the IP of the LMS PC static but in your
case this won't matter as there are only 3 devices.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-08 Thread Fizbin

Sometimes I turn my PC (with LMS) off at night. I don't have a ton of
files in my LMS directory to scan, so that's not an issue for me. How
problematic could things get if I go from fixed IP to DHCP? For example,
when I turn on my Transporter or Joggler (after rebooting my PC) will
they be connected to the network?



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-08 Thread Fizbin

Ok, got it. Thanks!



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-08 Thread Man in a van

Fizbin wrote: 
> Ok, just took it down stairs again and hooked it up. That option is
> indeed there. Oddly it is not present on the PC version. I was getting
> concerned as the screen was quite bright.  :)
> 
> I just realized I had another question and I should have checked when I
> had it down there... When I quit Squeezeplay and the unit powers down,
> how do I boot up again? Tap on the screen?

If you use the Quit screen and power off then you need to replug or
switch on again.

If you use the pause button on the Playing Now screen the screen will
default to a word clock (you can change this if you want). It will also
do this if you just leave any screen showing.

If you stop the joggler by the top left button in the Home screen, just
tap the screnn to restart.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-08 Thread Fizbin

Ok, just took it down stairs again and hooked it up. That option is
indeed there. Oddly it is not present on the PC version. I was getting
concerned as the screen was quite bright.  :)

I just realized I had another question and I should have checked when I
had it down there... When I quit Squeezeplay and the unit powers down,
how do I boot up again? Tap on the screen?



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-08 Thread Man in a van

Try this,

from the Home Screen >Settings>Screen>Backlight.

I've never actually altered these from the default but I guess that is
what you want.

Ronnie



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

> eriously Ronnie I bet you shipped that Joggler in the certain knowledge
> that when Fizbin plugged it in it would just work and he would get
> exactly what he was looking for. And of course it would have but for 

I'm very impressed with the Joggler. It's bigger and better quality than
what I expected. I just thought, on first boot, I'd get a few more
options to START, including a Static IP option. I was going to try it on
the switch again (since I awakened things by hooking it on the
downstairs wifi) but I figure I might as well wait until I get a
router.

One question that just popped in my head... How do I change the
brightness of the screen?  I'm currently looking at my PC's Squeezeplay
and there is no setting for screen brightness, other than the player
that is being controlled. I'm wondering if Squeezeplay with Joggler has
such a setting? (Yes, I know, I could always take it downstairs again
and plug it into the router and find out but just thought I'd ask)



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

Man in a van wrote: 
> Well stuff happens don't it?
> 
> He is a decent bloke and I'm sure that the connecion problem will be
> solved wid all the network gurus, innit? like bro :p (this is how old
> people like me think how  younger people speak ;) when in actual fact,
> it's mostly effin and blindin ).
> 
> Just going to finish this bottle of "Spitfire" and off to Bedfordshire!
> (been a bit of a stressful day here at the hovel !!
> 
> Welterusten :)

Methinks your age bracket is very similar to mine 
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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Man in a van

d6jg wrote: 
> Seriously Ronnie I bet you shipped that Joggler in the certain knowledge
> that when Fizbin plugged it in it would just work and he would get
> exactly what he was looking for. And of course it would have but for ...

Well stuff happens don't it?

He is a decent bloke and I'm sure that the connecion problem will be
solved wid all the network gurus, innit? like bro :p (this is how old
people like me think how  younger people speak ;) when in actual fact,
it's mostly effin and blindin ).

Just going to finish this bottle of "Spitfire" and off to Bedfordshire!
(been a bit of a stressful day here at the hovel !!

Welterusten :)



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

Seriously Ronnie I bet you shipped that Joggler in the certain knowledge
that when Fizbin plugged it in it would just work and he would get
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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Man in a van

touché



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

Is this the full half hour argument?



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Man in a van

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WJXHY2OXGE



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

Always expect the unexpected!



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Man in a van

d6jg wrote: 
> Correction
> 
> All Fizzers needed to do was plug in an Ethernet cable connected to a
> DHCP enabled router ... :)
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well, being a non-pedant I had rather assumed that that would be the
case :rolleyes:



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

Man in a van wrote: 
> Yes, but that was done by me when I installed the OS.
> 
> All Fizzers needed to do was plug in an ethernet cable and switch on,
> which he has now managed to do. :)
> 
> Ronnie

Correction

All Fizzers needed to do was plug in an Ethernet cable connected to a
DHCP enabled router ... :)


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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Man in a van

d6jg wrote: 
> Isn't there a first boot set up routine? I have 2x Joggler both wired
> and I thought they did.


Yes, but that was done by me when I installed the OS.

All Fizzers needed to do was plug in an ethernet cable and switch on,
which he has now managed to do. :)

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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

Isn't there a first boot set up routine? I have 2x Joggler both wired
and I thought they did.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Man in a van

Fizbin wrote: 
> BTW... Not sure how you can get those options without a LAN connected.
> It's like a locked door. Once it finds the network and you select it,
> the door unlocks. Is it possible you had those units hooked to a LAN
> prior?

Yes, I checked both the wirelee and the ethernet (wouldn't want to send
you a dud one, would I?).

When I move my Joggler between my hovel and Mother's hovel it just takes
the new IP given out by the Router. They (Jogglers) are sometimes a bit
mardy about connecting to the wireless set up but it's most times a
simple fix.

The door does not take you to Narnia though :p;):D

Regards

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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

BTW... Not sure how you can get those options without a LAN connected.
It's like a locked door. Once it finds the network and you select it,
the door unlocks. Is it possible you had those units hooked to a LAN
prior?



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

Ok, had some more free time that I thought. Went downstairs and
connected it to the Network. All is good. Lot's of options. Found my PC
upstairs, switched control to Transporter and then chose QUIT.

I wonder what will happen now if I plug it into my switch up here? Now
I'm out of time. I'll check it out later.

Anyway, thanks ALL for helping!



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Man in a van

d6jg wrote: 
> If you have never set it up then there are different options


No, I set it up for him before I sent it over, checked both wired and
wireless as working.

Without a lan connection it should boot into the Home screen as I
described.

I sent two usb sticks, one with Openpeak and the other with the Internal
OS so it should be recoverable.

The Joggler I sent was a replacement item I had sorced and was hardly
used (and I never did) so the problems are not insurmountable.

Ronnie



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

If you have never set it up then there are different options



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

> Why not connect the Joggler to your router anyway and make sure it's
> working OK, it should go into Squeezeplay with a cable connection.

Yes!  Good idea! I'll do that later and report back.

> 
> 
> I have just booted up a Joggler with Squeezeplay on the Internal memory
> without a Lan connection.
> 
> I get a page called HOME with four options:
> 
> Now Playing
> My Music
> Settings
> Quit
> 
> Tap on Settings then Network and it gives you the screen saying no
> address asigned to Ethernet.
> 
> Tap on Quit and there are three options, Relaunch, Reboot and Shutdown.
> 

So no wired connection or wifi and you got those options? Weird I get
non of that. (Just booted up with no network cable to confirm)



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Man in a van

Fizzers, can you get a cheapo one from a recycle place, I have used
D-link before with good results, do some diligence on the model you want
before purchase so that you will be able to connect it correctly.

Why not connect the Joggler to your router anyway and make sure it's
working OK, it should go into Squeezeplay with a cable connection.

For what it's worth I run two Jogglers on wireless without a problem but
no thick walls or any great distance to the router.

I have just booted up a Joggler with Squeezeplay on the Internal memory
without a Lan connection.

I get a page called HOME with four options:

Now Playing
My Music
Settings
Quit

Tap on Settings then Network and it gives you the screen saying no
address asigned to Ethernet.

Tap on Quit and there are three options, Relaunch, Reboot and Shutdown.

Ronnie



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

Not into streaming. Or Radio. If mysqueezebox.com ever went down for
good, I'd be one of the few who wouldn't care. :)



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

It might be cheaper to use the existing wifi router and a couple of
homeplugs so you can connect the existing switch and make it one large
network. It won't slow things down. It will work and then if you wanted
to you could also stream music from the Internet butvonlybif you wanted
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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

I did a search for switches many months ago and TP-LINK were having
problems with whinny sounding power supplies. I wonder if the routers
are the same? (I really don't expect you to know that, that's sort of
rhetorical) 

By the way... Do most people around here (who use wired connections) use
wireless routers? I notice there aren't an abundance of wired routers
out there for a decent price. There's Ubiquiti, but well... So perhaps
I'll just get a wireless with at least 4 ports. Is there a way to
disable the wireless component? (Not that I really need to...I'm not one
of those who are allergic to wi-fi)



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Man in a van

Fizbin wrote: 
> I'll look it to getting a wired router then. Do I still need the switch
> or can I just use the router?
> 
> What's a good cheap brand to go with?

d6jg wrote: 
> No need for the switch if the router has sufficient ports. 
> Netgear?

TP-Link are cheap and cheerful

Ronnie.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Man in a van

Fizbin wrote: 
> It's in the internal memory.
> 
> I bought this unit from some man in a van. My mom always warned me never
> to buy things from men in vans. But as it turned out, this man in a van
> was a ace salesman who didn't even profit from the sale. 
> 
> Anyway, (some sarcasm aside) he set it up in the internal memory, which
> is what I asked for. But he also included a USB stick labelled
> Squeezeplay...I believe it has the bootable version.


You believe correctly :p

Ronnie



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

No need for the switch if the router has sufficient ports. 
Netgear?



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

I'll look it to getting a wired router then. Do I still need the switch
or can I just use the router?

What's a good cheap brand to go with?



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

It's in the internal memory.

I bought this unit from some man in a van. My mom always warned me never
to buy things from men in vans. But as it turned out, this man in a van
was a ace salesman who didn't even profit from the sale. 

Anyway, (some sarcasm aside) he set it up in the internal memory, which
is what I asked for. But he also included a USB stick labelled
Squeezeplay...I believe it has the bootable version.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

Just for reference 

A static IP is set on the device itself
A reserved IP is set in the DHCP server and says - when the device with
this specific MAC address connects always give it this IP out of the
range

A DHCP also tells devices what DNS server to use so if for example you
wanted to stop using one DNS server in favour of another you just change
it in one place not on every machine



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread castalla

d6jg wrote: 
> Correct. And the Squeezeplay OS is designed to work with DHCP as a
> static address is unnecessary for its purpose. Fiddle and you could
> easily brick it.

Is the SqueezeOS on a usb stick or on the Joggler's internal memory?  If
it's on internal then I agree with d6jg that messing with the linux
settings (especially if you have little idea what you are doing!) could
trash the OS, and then you're going to have to reflash the Joggler from
scratch!



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

DHCP has no affect on network speed at all. It is merely a means of
allocating an ip address when a device starts up.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

Ah, crap. So I'm SOL. 

How fast is DHCP vs Static IP? I need a fast connection because I
sometimes use Foobar2000 with my Transporter/Touch. (Yes there is a
script that allows you to do it) It doesn't work so well with slower
connections. So if there is more guess work as to where things are on
the network with DHCP, then I'm not interested.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

Fizbin wrote: 
> So I can't access the joggler without knowing the IP?

Correct. And the Squeezeplay OS is designed to work with DHCP as a
static address is unnecessary for its purpose. Fiddle and you could
easily brick it.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

Fizbin wrote: 
> Yeah but the WIFI is no where near my switch. It's nice not to have yet
> another trouble shooting issue down the road by adding a router. There
> was a time that I wouldn't even use a switch. I just used a PC to
> Squeezebox cross over cable. :) I hate networks. I walked out a job once
> because of that. lol.
> 
> Anyway, ok. Thanks. I'll look up the login name/password.

You think your network is nice and simple but actually troubleshooting a
problem would be quite difficult. It would be a lot easier if you had a
dhcp server in play and just had an appropriate static IP address for
your LMS PC.
Some of us do this stuff for a living and know how to do it properly. I
could fix the IP on your Joggler in 20 seconds but the point is I know
that's not the correct thing to do. 
The correct thing is either to make it all one network (home plug) or
swap the switch for a wired router that has no internet connection but
crucially does include a dhcp server. The transporter doesn't need a
fixed IP address only the PC with LMS does.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

So I can't access the joggler without knowing the IP?



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread castalla

Fizbin wrote: 
> I think I narrowed things down a bit but still need help.
> 
> I need to edit a file called interfaces in  /etc/network/
> 
> From: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> But being completely deficient in Linux I have no idea how to access
> this file. I don't even know how to exit Squeezeplay, which the Joggler
> boots when powered on.

Squeezeplay on the Joggler is a self-contained OS system.  You can only
quit or reboot.  Access to the linux system is only via SSH (eg. Putty,
or WinSCP) for which you need to know the Joggler's IP address   Sort of
Catch-22.

Squeezeplay requires access to a router with DHCP assignments - see
http://birdslikewires.co.uk/squeezeplay-os



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

Yeah but the WIFI is no where near my switch. It's nice not to have yet
another trouble shooting issue down the road by adding a router. There
was a time that I wouldn't even use a switch. I just used a PC to
Squeezebox cross over cable. :) I hate networks. I walked out a job once
because of that. lol.

Anyway, ok. Thanks. I'll look up the login name/password.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

You will need the default username & password for the Joggler - from
memory joggler / joggler  but google it 

Connecting your switch to the wifi router with a wire doesn't mean you
have to use wifi,



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

I don't want to mess with my setup. It's never given me a lick of
troubles. This is why I don't use wifi for squeezebox. It's one less
trouble shooting headache. 

As for editing the file... 

I hook the joggler to the router, download and run Putty. Is there
anything I should know from there? Thanks



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

Plug the Joggler into the wifi router and it should get an IP address.
Then use the connected PC and with Putty do a ssh connection to the
Joggler and edit the file.
I should say though that if you get it wrong you may make the Joggler
unusable.
Why don't you add the switch into the properly working routed network
and amend PC & Transporter addresses to be DHCP then it should all work
on one network?



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

Ah yes of course. I do have a wifi router on another PC, which has cable
internet.  But how would I access that PC?



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

What do you connect to the Internet with then?



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

I don't have a router. :) Just a switch.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

Normally you would use a PC and Putty to connect and edit the file but
you need an IP address for that.
Connect the Joggler temporarily to your router and see if it gets an IP
address then.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread d6jg

The Joggler is expecting to find a dhcp server that will give it an IP
address. This is normally part of the routers job. You don't have one do
you?
If that's right then yes you will need to manually edit the network
config file.



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Re: [slim] Help! Joggler/Squeezeplay not connecting to network/LMS (No network options)

2016-08-07 Thread Fizbin

I think I narrowed things down a bit but still need help.

I need to edit a file called interfaces in  /etc/network/

From: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration

> Configuring the interface manually
> 
> If you're configuring it manually then something like this will set the
> default gateway (network, broadcast and gateway are optional):
> 
> 
> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
> address 192.0.2.7
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> gateway 192.0.2.254



But being completely deficient in Linux I have no idea how to access
this file. I don't even know how to exit Squeezeplay, which the Joggler
boots when powered on.



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