[Elecraft] CW in Emergencies?

2005-09-06 Thread Ralph Tyrrell

reflection on Ron’s comments.

I was OX5BT for 2 1/2 years. Mostly used CW due to the
frequent arctic flutter making SSB unintelligible.
I remember a CW qso that I was having on 20M, we were
going along about 20 WPM when the flutter started.
I slowed down, he slowed down, we finished the QSO at
less than 10 WPM. The easily variable data rate of CW
allowed us to adjust for conditions and complete a
very pleasant QSO.

I made WAS from Thule, I wanted it to be all CW but
the CW ops in KH6 that I did work did not send me a
QSL card. 
Thanks to the SSB QSO with a KH6 I got my 50th QSL
card and obtained a mixed mode WAS
.
Thanks to Kevin, KD5ONS and the ECN for CW activity.
I also get into the QPR sprints,
http://www.arsqrp.com/ and 
http://www.arm-tek.net/~yoel/sprint200509.html and
others.
There is CW out there but sometimes the activity does
seem sparse.

73, TY. W1TF
K1 1432 (at present my only rig on the air)


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Re: [Elecraft] Two radios & one antenna

2005-09-06 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 08:07:29PM -0400, Bob Wehking wrote:
> Now that I am using my K2, I need to know what is the best way to
> switch my antenna from my Icom 756Pro to my K2? Will an Alpha Delta 2
> position switch be sufficient to isolate the font ends of each radio
> or do I need something else?

That switch is rated at greater than 60 dB of isolation up to 30 MHz.
With 100 watts output, that would mean that no more than -10 dBm would
reach the input of the "off" rig.  While that is enough power to cause
nonlinearities on a received signal, it is well below the level at
which any front-end damage would occur (I suspect that the T-R switch
of the radios offer similar isolation).  I have used the similar
MFJ-1702C switch with a K2 and TS-570D with no problems.

Bob, N7XY

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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-06 Thread Matt Osborn
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 20:43:02 -0400, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>All the daylight savings transition dates are chizeled into Windows.  I'll bet 
>Bill Gates is sponsoring this legislation to sell the next decendant of XP.

Its a table stored in the Windows registry; very easy to change. I've
made the change myself for a customer in Australia where Microsoft had
it wrong.
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RE: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies? (WAS: Dropping the Code Test)

2005-09-06 Thread Dale Putnam





Those who worry about ham radio becoming another citizen's band need only
scan 75M at night. They're too late. :-)

Craig

Until a cw op pops up in the middle... calls cq, gets and answer, has a 
chat, sez 73, then moves on, and someone on ssb says, what was that?


The long haul cw nts ops are fading fast, the long haul cw need is fading 
until you look at the contest and the niche need.


Yes, we need a long range, "big picture", type, that understands that 
trunked radio is only the next step, not the end, and the lost cw 
requirement can be phased out, along with the test. There are a whole truck 
load of other "filters" or valid test questions that can be, and should be 
put into the requirements for holding an amateur license.
(Tongue firmly placed) One of which could be, which dielect is necessary to 
speak into a mic on 75 meters after 6 pm local time? Would it be more 
correct to add a bit of a drawl too?


Humor, sometimes gets me past the sense of loss

and it doesn't even have to be real good either.

Seriously, if VHF phone works best in most emergencies, then use it. If the 
long haul ops are not used much in most, then by all means, let the traffic 
pass as effeciently as possible. If data doesn't work well, in emergency 
situations... and so far it doesn't, then find another proving ground for 
it, rather than try to force it to work anyway.
Have we used all the feasible methods available to utilize the modes and 
means we have? Have we really tried it all? Are we waiting for someone else 
to do it first?  Hey George? Are you there?

Albert? Alexander? The Wright bros? Anyone listening yet?
You folks were all doing it first... gee... someone has to... why not us?
And Elecraft has done it first too... just look at the specs... try that 
with any other...
But is Elecraft just sitting back and resting? I find that real tuff to 
believe! So... with all the examples of how and why what are you doing ?

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Re: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies?

2005-09-06 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 9/6/05 12:35:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> Yes Craig, and each and very one of those guys passed a code test!   

They also passed at least one, and usually several, written tests that
specifically included the regulations. Yet they broke the rules anyway.


Yes 
> 
> indeedy, that ole' Morse code sure does serve as a mighty fine filter to 
> keep the riff raff out. 
> 


Apply the same logic to the written test. Should the writtens be eliminated 
too, since they're not a perfect "riff-raff filter" either?

And note this:

What mode are those folks using on 75 meters? It sure isn't Morse Code?

Tune down to the low ends of the bands and see if you can find the same
behaviors from hams using Morse Code.

Read the FCC enforcement letters (ARRL website is one source) and see what 
mode most of the alleged violators use. It's not Morse Code, and the disparity 
is
not explained by the relative popularity of the modes.

73 de Jim, N2EY
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RE: [Elecraft] K2 Birdies

2005-09-06 Thread tom.w3qs
Jim,

I, too, have a serious bird problem and the source is my D-Link router.
However, I cannot open either of the links you provided.

I'll try again later.

Tom, W3QS 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Brown
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 8:50 PM
To: Elecraft List
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Birdies

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 20:03:22 -0400, Bob Wehking wrote:

>Unpluging my D-Link wireless router stopped the birdies.

Study these links (from my website). 

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/SAC0305Ferrites.pdf

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/Ferrites-Ham.pdf

What you need to do is wind those Ethernet cables and the power cable for
the router and computers through the right toroids to form chokes. The links
tell you how.

Jim 


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Re: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies?

2005-09-06 Thread Thom R LaCosta

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005, Stuart Rohre wrote:


NTS techniques can be taught for phone just as well as CW.

72,
Stuart
K5KVH
Red Cross Comms Officer, Katrina Relief


It might be instructive for you to fill us in one how the Red Cross uses
its HF frequenciesI assume it's SSB.

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Birdies

2005-09-06 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 20:03:22 -0400, Bob Wehking wrote:

>Unpluging my D-Link wireless router stopped the birdies.

Study these links (from my website). 

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/SAC0305Ferrites.pdf

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/Ferrites-Ham.pdf

What you need to do is wind those Ethernet cables and the power 
cable for the router and computers through the right toroids to form 
chokes. The links tell you how.

Jim 


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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-06 Thread rrennard
All the daylight savings transition dates are chizeled into Windows.  I'll bet 
Bill Gates is sponsoring this legislation to sell the next decendant of XP.
N7WY
> 
> From: "Jeremiah McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2005/09/05 Mon AM 11:28:31 EDT
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Datlight saving
> 
> The XYL to the rescue, AGAIN!...She saved the newspaper clipping and says 
> daylight saving will be extended one month overall, not a month in the spring 
> and another in the fall...It will begin three weeks earlier, on the second 
> Sunday in March, and end a week later on the first Sunday in 
> November...Starting in 2007...;^)
> 
> Jerry, wa2dkg
> 
> > I heard something about Daylight Savings Time changing
> > late this year but have not had this confirmed. Do any of you
> > know about this?
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[Elecraft] ARRL SW Sept 9, 10, 11

2005-09-06 Thread Lisa Jones
Elecraft will once again have a booth at the ARRL SW Convention in 
Riverside CA this coming weekend.


Brian and I will be covering the booth ( sorry Eric and Wayne have prior 
commitments but we put on a pretty good show!) There will be almost all 
products for sale including the new XG2's, 2T-gen and K1 backlights.


We hope to see many of enthsisasts there- in fact if any of you would 
like to help out at the booth let me know. Please email 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] directly.


Due to a little scheduling mix-up ( mine  maybe?) we are a little short 
on the K2 display and if anyone would like to show off their handywork 
in the form of a K2/100 it would be most welcome, especially Saturday.


Our booth is G-3 on the corner.

Times:

Friday night from 5:00 PM to 8:30 PM
Saturday 9:00 AM to  5:00 PM
Sun 9:00 AM to 12:00 PM

See you there!



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[Elecraft] Two radios & one antenna

2005-09-06 Thread Bob Wehking
Now that I am using my K2, I need to know what is the best way to switch my 
antenna from my Icom 756Pro to my K2? Will an Alpha Delta 2 position switch be 
sufficient to isolate the font ends of each radio or do I need something else?

Bob
WB8DDI
K2#4998
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Birdies

2005-09-06 Thread Bob Wehking

Unpluging my D-Link wireless router stopped the birdies.

Bob
WB8DDI
K2#4998
- Original Message - 
From: "W2AGN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Bob Wehking" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Birdies



Bob Wehking wrote:
I have been tuning my receiver & have determined that I have a few 
birdies in the 40M band, but there are more in the 20M band that are a S9 
level. Frequencies are 14.212.22, 14.217, 14.264.8614.315 that all sound 
more like buzzing sound. Any ideas?


Bob
WB8DDI
K2# 4998



Try turning your computer off.

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: CW in Emergencies? (WAS: Dropping the Code Test)

2005-09-06 Thread Stuart Rohre
The problem in the affected areas was the flooding of power sources or total 
destruction of antennas, and structures.

Hams need strike teams with HF NVIS and VHF portable capability to work 
inside the affected areas.

Well planned Disaster Plans include this.  LA. was woefully negligent, at 
least on the state and City officials' part in New Orleans.  They had  a 
plan, (its on the NET), but they did not follow the plan.  The plan said use 
their school and city buses and evacuate people.  A lot of people who were 
supposed to implement the plan bailed out of town or did not know the plan. 
They also had all the other elements required for Federal aid, such as 
emergency communications mentioned in plan.
BUT,
They would not allow Red Cross to enter although we prepositioned units in 
N. La./ Ms. border.  They would not allow radio units in; and would not 
allow Feds to take the National Guard over, and put them into New Orleans 
until several days passed.

The break down of Police order, and the bad guys who did not evacuate, in 
order to take advantage of property while everyone was gone, was the major 
factor cited to us.

The wage of the entering officer in PD New Orleans is so low, that it is 
surprising the force did not resign en mass.

Hams do need to make NVIS dipoles and reflectors and keep them rolled up in 
their ARES GO KIT.  They need HF skill to use 40 by day and 80 by night to 
handle messaging.  They need charged batteries, and you can always find some 
low tree or fence left to tie an NVIS dipole to.  If some had had NVIS 
dipoles up even during the main winds, they would have been able to stay on 
the air at say 50 watts and still cover a couple of states or more on 40m. 
We use NVIS dipoles plus reflector 3 feet high for the dipole, and one foot 
high for reflector.  Use insulated wire, some strong kevlar rope or line, 
and you are on the air in minutes.

Made of ladder line or twin lead as a folded dipole, the NVIS one will match 
directly to 50 ohm coax.  The normal 300 ohm folded dipole center feed 
becomes 1/4 less when low, or about 60 ohms.

Stuart
K5KVH
ARES AEC
Red Cross Comms. 



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Re: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies?

2005-09-06 Thread Stuart Rohre
Dave,
Much emergency traffic can be handled with QRP phone rigs using NVIS 
antennas consisting of a low dipole for 40 and 80 plus a reflector wire 
about a foot off ground.  It works like a 2 element beam and easily covers a 
couple of states.

I have uses such a beam on 40m from Austin TX to Mobile AL, which is 3 
states away.  Granted that was with 100 watts, but I was 20 over 9 in TX 
North, South and East of me at the same time.

Other Emergency traffic is FM VHF or UHF and local to one county in most 
cases.

NTS techniques can be taught for phone just as well as CW.

72,
Stuart
K5KVH
Red Cross Comms Officer, Katrina Relief 



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[Elecraft] First QSO with K2/100 #5020

2005-09-06 Thread thomask.smith
I finally received authorization to operate here in A6 land and had my
first contact. I was on the way out of the door heading for work and
heard A41RS on and believe it or not he heard me call him! Of course
he's right next door so it wasn't real hard to make contact. He was 59
+20 here. Too bad I didn't have time to inquire about my signal quality.
Maybe next time.
I want to thank everyone who helped me get the radio on the air. I had a
couple of bad 2N7000's, one bad chip and one diode missing in the parts.
Not too bad considering I ordered all the options plus the KAT100. The
biggest problem was waiting for replacement parts to arrive.

Thanks again and look for me on the air,

73,
Tom A61/WA7DET
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Birdies

2005-09-06 Thread Bob - W5BIG
Hi Bob,

There is a real birdie at about 7.000 MHz but it's very sharp and doesn't
buzz.
The buzzing sounds might be due to a computer or a plasma TV. I've heard
that even a neighbor's plasma TV can cause a lot of noise.

To check your computer monitor (without turning off the power), tune in the
birdie and then change the screen on your computer to something with much
different content. If it's the monitor, the sound of the birdie will change.
To minimize the computer monitor noise, leave the screen as plain as
possible. A uniform background makes much less noise than a "busy" screen
that has a lot of signal transitions across the scan lines.

If that doesn't show anything, try turning off the computer and then
everything else in the house to try to locate the source.  Light dimmers and
loose wires in wall sockets or switches can be noise generators.

For really serious noise reduction, ferrite cores on the cables may be
necessary.

73/Bob - W5BIG



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Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 Birdies


> Bob Wehking wrote:
> > I have been tuning my receiver & have determined that I have a few
birdies in the 40M band, but there are more in the 20M band that are a S9
level. Frequencies are 14.212.22, 14.217, 14.264.8614.315 that all sound
more like buzzing sound. Any ideas?
> >
> > Bob
> > WB8DDI
> > K2# 4998
>


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[Elecraft] Re: K2 Birdies

2005-09-06 Thread Bob Wehking
I checked the birdies on my Icom 756Pro & they are also there so it appears 
something in my office is causing them...time to start turning of my hubs, 
switches etc.



- Original Message - 
From: "wayne burdick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Bob Wehking" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: K2 Birdies



Bob,

It's likely that these are coming from elsewhere in the shack, not from 
the transceiver itself. A working K2 may have a few very weak birdies, in 
nearly all cases masked entirely by band noise -- certainly nothing like 
what you're describing.


If you can't find external sources, you might try the complete 
troubleshooting procedure described in Appendix E of the K2 manual.


73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Sep 6, 2005, at 1:51 PM, Bob Wehking wrote:

I have been tuning my receiver & have determined that I have a few 
birdies in the 40M band, but there are more in the 20M band that are a S9 
level. Frequencies are 14.212.22, 14.217, 14.264.8614.315 that all sound 
more like buzzing sound. Any ideas?


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[Elecraft] Viewing GERBER files - ANSWERED - THANKS TO ALL

2005-09-06 Thread Tom Hammond


Thanks to all those who responded to be plea for info on a freeware program 
to allow me to view/print Gerber PC board data files.


The two programs which were most often suggested were:

  Viewmate, found at www.pentalogix.com.

and

  GC-Preview, from (http://www.graphicode.com)

I appreciate the assistance very much.

73,

Tom   N0SS

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT100 remote and weatherproof?

2005-09-06 Thread Jack Brindle
Probably not worth doing. The KAT100 requires attachment to the K2's  
AuxBus for band and control info. The AuxBus definitely cannot be  
extended very far without adversely affecting K2 operations.


An autotuner built specifically for that operation would provide much  
better results in a remotely mounted system.


On Sep 6, 2005, at 12:14 AM, OE3ZK Gerhard wrote:


Hi

I just wonder if somebody tried to weatherproof the KAT100 and  
operated it remotely directly at the antenna?


73
Gert, OE3ZK, K2#2200



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[Elecraft] K2 prices

2005-09-06 Thread David
How many of you have bought a spare k2 and inventoried it than put it
back in the box and have it on a shelve waiting for the price to go up
like heath kits have done?
see ya
 
73's
N1IB
David Schornak
K2/QRO 03027
K2/QRP 05091 TO BE BUILT
www.n1ib.com
www.n1ib.com/blog/
www.n1ib.com/leather/
 
arf
don't forget me
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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-06 Thread Larry Cahoon

At 07:21 PM 9/5/2005 -0500, Matt Osborn wrote:

Fred,

 Windows Xp has a registry entry that keeps all the time zone
information.  All Microsoft has to do is update that entry; it should
be a very simple change.


My PC is on GMT year round - no problem here.

73 de Larry...WD3P in MD
http://www.wd3p.net

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[Elecraft] Re: K2 Birdies

2005-09-06 Thread wayne burdick

Bob,

It's likely that these are coming from elsewhere in the shack, not from 
the transceiver itself. A working K2 may have a few very weak birdies, 
in nearly all cases masked entirely by band noise -- certainly nothing 
like what you're describing.


If you can't find external sources, you might try the complete 
troubleshooting procedure described in Appendix E of the K2 manual.


73,
Wayne
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On Sep 6, 2005, at 1:51 PM, Bob Wehking wrote:

I have been tuning my receiver & have determined that I have a few 
birdies in the 40M band, but there are more in the 20M band that are a 
S9 level. Frequencies are 14.212.22, 14.217, 14.264.8614.315 that all 
sound more like buzzing sound. Any ideas?


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 Birdies

2005-09-06 Thread W2AGN

Bob Wehking wrote:

I have been tuning my receiver & have determined that I have a few birdies in 
the 40M band, but there are more in the 20M band that are a S9 level. Frequencies 
are 14.212.22, 14.217, 14.264.8614.315 that all sound more like buzzing sound. Any 
ideas?

Bob
WB8DDI
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[Elecraft] K2 Birdies

2005-09-06 Thread Bob Wehking
I have been tuning my receiver & have determined that I have a few birdies in 
the 40M band, but there are more in the 20M band that are a S9 level. 
Frequencies are 14.212.22, 14.217, 14.264.8614.315 that all sound more like 
buzzing sound. Any ideas?

Bob
WB8DDI
K2# 4998
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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-06 Thread Matt Osborn
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 11:26:59 +0100, G8IFF/KC8NHF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>So with these new changes, Indiana will get really confused.

Not anymore, Indiana decided to change to DST last April.

"Until April 2005, when Indiana passed a law agreeing to observe
daylight saving time, the Hoosier state had its own unique and complex
time system. Not only is the state split between two time zones, but
until recently, only some parts of the state observed daylight saving
time while the majority did not"

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/daylight1.html
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Re: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies?

2005-09-06 Thread Rick Hampton
Hi, Dave.

This is an interesting idea, but it presupposes the new hams are taught traffic
handling, ICS training, and other things that makes them able to pass emergency
traffic with ANY rig.  Maybe we should consider teaching Morse skills as a part
of emergency communications.  After all, as much as an anathema as it may be to
us, not everyone wants to learn emergency operations, just as some do not want
to learn CW.

Rick
WD8KEL

Dave Lowenstein wrote:

> The disadvantage of "no-code" is that if new hams aren't required to learn
> CW, how are they going to be able handle emergency traffic from our
> low-powered battery-operated K1's and K2's?  Since emergencies are one of
> our reasons for being and CW gets through with simple equipment where other
> modes won't, aren't we shooting ourselves in the foot by eliminating the CW
> requirement?
>
> Dave
> N7AF

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RE: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies?

2005-09-06 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:36:04 -0700, EricJ wrote:

>The riff raff was deeply entrenched on 75 before VEC

You can say that again -- 75 was a mess in the 50's!

Jim K9YC



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Re: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies?

2005-09-06 Thread Dave Lowenstein
The disadvantage of "no-code" is that if new hams aren't required to learn 
CW, how are they going to be able handle emergency traffic from our 
low-powered battery-operated K1's and K2's?  Since emergencies are one of 
our reasons for being and CW gets through with simple equipment where other 
modes won't, aren't we shooting ourselves in the foot by eliminating the CW 
requirement?


Dave
N7AF 


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RE: [Elecraft] Re: CW in Emergencies? (WAS: Dropping the Code Test)

2005-09-06 Thread EricJ
 WHOA! Back up the bus, there, Charles. I'd like a citation for that one! I
have been searching google (a major investor in BPL) diligently and have not
seen a single reference to CW in this disaster. Not one.

Actually, Craig fingered the reality. The FIRST communications out of the
affected area were via CNN and the major networks who had pre-staged cameras
and crews in the area.

We're living a myth. All of us. Hams, ham clubs, the ARRL. We're going to
get blind-sided. That quote in the WSJ from a BPL rep saying "amateurs were
nothing", is a WARNING. With all the billions of dollars behind BPL, and
hams defending their existence with fairy tales, we are ripe for an attack
from powerful, moneyed interests and they will eat our lunch.


Eric
KE6US
www.ke6us.com


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of charles allison
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:17 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Re: CW in Emergencies? (WAS: Dropping the Code Test)


The first communications with the affected area from the outside were HF CW.
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[Elecraft] KAT100 remote and weatherproof?

2005-09-06 Thread J F
Hi Gert,
I'd be interested in hearing about such a system as
well...

73,
Julius
n2wn
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RE: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies?

2005-09-06 Thread EricJ
The riff raff was deeply entrenched on 75 before VEC. I never tuned it for
visitors as there was always something embarassing I had to explain away.
Some of the AM vs. SSB wars on 75 were truly twisted events during the
transition.

The code requirement hasn't been an effective riff raff filter and it hasn't
provided skilled traffic handlers in emergencies so it is no wonder the
REQUIREMENT is going by the way side. By all indications, Morse itself is
very alive and doing well.

Eric
KE6US
www.ke6us.com
Updated with SPICE for Hams and QRP Rigs 

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Morrow
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:44 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Jim wrote:

> ... each and very one of those guys passed a code test! 

This is definitely **not** a certainty, since the VEC process took over the
operator licensing exam process.

Mike / KK5F
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RE: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies? (WAS: Dropping the Code Test)

2005-09-06 Thread EricJ
Exactly. I fought every attempt to dumb down or eliminate the code
requirement in the past. I MAY have been right 30 years ago, but it is wrong
today. It is just another mode with its own advantages and disadvantages. It
is my mode of choice just as it is yours, but others make different choices
and it's all good depending on what you are trying to accomplish.

Eric
KE6US
www.ke6us.com
Updated with SPICE for Hams and QRP Rigs



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Rairdin
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 9:02 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies? (WAS: Dropping the Code Test)

> The longer we hold onto this myth, the more likely we are going to be 
> "found out" by those who regulate ham radio. We need leaders who can 
> help shape ham radio to fit the current reality, not bemoan the dirth 
> of skilled CW operators as a problem.

This all wraps around to dropping the Morse requirement. As much as we'd
like to find some justification for maintaining the requirement, it doesn't
seem like there is one -- from the perspective of Amateur Radio as a public
service.

That doesn't mean there's anything wrong with CW. It's the only mode I'm
interested in, though I bought a mic to test my SSB board. I find CW
challenging and therefore satisfying. After working several hundred Field
Day CW QSOs (my first FD in 30 years) I dropped into the phone tent and was
shocked at how long it took to complete a QSO. And at 2x the point value,
I'm not sure why we even had a phone station. We'd be better off with two CW
stations working two different bands.

Those who worry about ham radio becoming another citizen's band need only
scan 75M at night. They're too late. :-)

Craig

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RE: [Elecraft] Re: Ordering form PA (AND UK!)

2005-09-06 Thread Sjoerd PE2SVN
Hello all again,

As starter of this thread I would like to thank you all for reactions,

I fully agree with Simon about UPS.
I ordered my K2 last Friday, shipping via UPS, and hoped my new toy would be
delivered within a week or 2...

Yesterday (Monday) I came home from work, turned on my PC to see if there is
some sort of order confirmation.. triiing UPS at the front door with a
package! Wow that was FAST... My K2 arrived and by paying BTW (tax, no
import duties) I was ready to start building in 37 hours after ordering!

K2 # 5095 is work in progress at the moment!

73 to all!

Sjoerd van Nederveen
PE2SVN


-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
Verzonden: dinsdag 6 september 2005 9:34
Aan: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Elecraft] Re: Ordering form PA (AND UK!)

My experience is that the best carrier to use is UPS. Of those I have used 
UPS has always performed flawlessly with international purchases (not - 
Switzerland is not in the EU - so everything I buy goes through customs). If

the parcel is correctly marked I can rely on UPS for efficiency, promptness 
and above all courtesy.

UPS may be a tad more expensive but it's well worth it.

Simon Brown
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RSGB HF Convention: Friday 7th - Sunday 9th October 2005
Holidays: Monday 10th - Thursday 20th October 2005

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Howson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> Just to add my experiences.
>
> My first order for a K2 (Jan 2004) came through parcel force and full duty

> was charged. Parcelforce collect the duty for customs, but would not admit

> that they were in the wrong. I did manage to contact customs by phone, but

> only by way of a helpful receptionist who got the customs officer to 
> return my call. I sent off the label on the parcel together with copies of

> the invoice. Then I received a letter saying that because of the 
> "additional" evidence they would refund me, infering that it was my fault.

> I eventually received the refund, three months after.
>
> My second order (March 2005), for extra modules and upgrades went through 
> with no problems.
>
> You pays your money and takes the chance.
> 
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[Elecraft] Let me build a K2 for you.

2005-09-06 Thread Alan
I have built over 100 K2's to date, and all of the other Elecraft kits.  Let me 
build your radio.  My rates are reasonable and you get a built radio ready to 
play.

73
Alan
W1HYV
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Re: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies?] and some K2 comments

2005-09-06 Thread Hank Kohl K8DD
Geez, thin line between sarcasm and reality, as I read it, although I've 
wondered about that sometimes listening to 75M SSB on my K2 (see - it's 
on a topic about K2's!).

This discussion is going on at the QMN/NREN reflector much more objectively!

I think we all need to lighten up and go along with the changes because 
the only thing that never changes is change its self.  And with some 
objectivity we can make it better.


73HankK8DD

And another K2 comment:
This coming November look for FP/K8DD  FP/AC8W and others.
We will have about 4 or 5 K2/100's and a collection of amps and beams
and wires from Miquelon for CQ WW CW.
PSK-31 and RTTY before and after the contest.


Jim Wiley wrote:




OK Mike, I'll bite.  Since the reference was to 75 meter operation, 
just how did these guys get their licenses then?  Are you suggesting 
fraud in the examination process?  That is a very serious charge, and 
you need to be able to prove it.  



Mike Morrow wrote:
This is definitely **not** a certainty, since the VEC process took 
over the operator licensng exam process.


Mike  /  KK5F




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Re: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies?]

2005-09-06 Thread Jim Wiley



OK Mike, I'll bite.  Since the reference was to 75 meter operation, just 
how did these guys get their licenses then?  Are you suggesting fraud in 
the examination process?  That is a very serious charge, and you need to 
be able to prove it.   Yes, there have been some irregularities, and as 
far as I know, each and every one has been dealt with by Riley and 
crew.   Licenses have been denied or cancelled, usually as the result of 
failure to respond to a directive that the applicant appear for 
retesting. From what Riley says,  exam fraud is not at all common, he 
rarely encounters more than 2 or 3 instances per year, more often  
none.  There have been a couple of instances where large groups were 
involved, but they have been resolved.   



Are you aware of something that isn't known elsewhere?  I suggest that 
if you are, you let Riley Hollingsworth know immediately.  His email is: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  



I happen to run a pretty good size VEC operation (Anchorage ARC VEC, 
Inc.), and I can assure you that every VEC organization takes their job 
very seriously.   Interestingly enough,  in those very rare cases where 
some funny business has taken place, as far as I can determine it has 
always been the people in charge of the particular VEC themselves who 
have brought the problem to the attention of the FCC.  They are as 
interested in getting rid of "bad apples" as anyone. 



Since this subject is "off topic" for this list, perhaps after one last 
exchange here,  it would be better if we continued this thread off the 
reflector.



- Jim, KL7CC


Mike Morrow wrote: 

This is definitely **not** a certainty, since the VEC process took over 
the operator licensng exam process.


Mike  /  KK5F




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Re: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies?

2005-09-06 Thread Jim Brown
As an old traffic hound (does anyone remember ROOA?) nearly 50 
years ago, I regularly worked and ran CW traffic nets, and made 
BPL (500 messages/month, not originations) at least a half dozen 
times. What we call traffic nets today are a bad joke compared to 
those nets. Today, hams are simply poorly trained (even untrained) 
to handle traffic, because real traffic nets are few and far 
between. Not surprising -- there's rarely a use for them in 
today's world until something big happens. 

In those days, when something big happened, hams were prepared, 
because we had the ongoing training and discipline of REAL traffic 
nets. Today, that is simply not the case. How many on this list 
know, off the top of their head, the proper format for a piece of 
traffic? How many have even HANDLED a piece of traffic in proper 
format (or heard it being handled)?  

I find the assertion that SSB is easier copy in the presence of 
aurora hard to believe. I've worked AU on 6 meters since 1958, and 
I can tell you that CW works FAR FAR better than SSB under those 
conditions. Any decent CW op can make pretty good copy of a 
heavily distorted AU signal that's reasonably above the noise. 

The reality is that a marginal antenna and low power has a far 
better chance of solid communications using CW with a good op than 
an equally good op on SSB. The difference is operator training, 
not technology. 

But consider this -- I've worked only a bit of PSK31, but it seems 
to me that it has much of the advantage of CW for communications 
with low power and/or marginal antennas. A PSK31 rig is VERY easy 
to put together in an emergency package -- all it takes is a 
radio, an antenna, a laptop, Simon Brown's excellent free PSK31 
software, and a pair of interface cables that anyone can make with 
cables they buy at Radio Shack and modify to fit their rigs. 

Such a rig would use minimal battery power, because traffic could 
be transmitted in short bursts, and uses standard components. All 
you need to stay on the air for a long time is a means of 
recharging your batteries. It also doesn't depend on repeaters, 
which could be down when they are most needed. Each station in an 
emergency area could simply work directly to one or more assigned 
partners outside the affected area, and that partner dumps the 
traffic onto conventional channels (the internet, etc.). 

Jim Brown  K9YC  (ex-W9NEC, W8FNI)


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[Elecraft] Re: CW in Emergencies? (WAS: Dropping the Code Test)

2005-09-06 Thread charles allison
Hi,

One thing that most miss in this debate, especially on the gov. is the
realization that communications is a skill that is every bit as important as
the technical knowledge required to turn a piece of wire into a working
antenna.  It seems on the gov. side that communications skills means the
glib ability to push BS on a receptive audience and not convey information
in an efficient manner.

Pushing license renewals, birthday greetings and the like on a regular basis
by whatever net means, cw, phone, gives one a great advantage over those who
don't

While the disadvantage of CW is both speed and accuracy among those of us
with little skill, it's advantage is massive.  It offers maximum range for
minimum power and equipment, conditions that prevail in most bad disasters.
While using a computer digital mode can even increase this range / power -
it requires a power hog of a computer.

Sure vhf is the preferred short range method, maybe 40 - 50 miles max with a
good repeater and with a network of repeaters, there's no limit.  Guess what
happens when there is no repeater and the most you can get is about 15 ft
off the ground with a makeshift antenna.  You can forget regional
communications unless you have a series of stations to relay.

The benefit of amateur radio emcomm is that it can function in devastated
areas without the necessity of a communications infrastructure.  It can
function with minimal equipment and there are many skilled communicators who
can improvise, unlike button pushing dispatchers.

The emcomm classes teach that there are preferred means for various types of
messages for desired security, accuracy and speed.  They also explain the
nature of the situation and how and why the standard infrastructure
communications of the gov. fail.

Amateur radio emcomm is not obsolete nor is it a simple rudimentary system
of obsolete technology.  It covers the full range of technology from CW to
HF radio links straight into the computer packet radio and even the internet
email network via Winlink.  It is comprised of vhf and hf, portable, mobile
and fixed stations both within and outside the affected area.   VHF and HF
comm, digital, CW and voice radio comm are merely tools to be selected for
use in the particular situation.

This disaster, Katrina, and the NOLA levee break the next day - which is its
own disaster, a massive localized catastrophe that was precipitated by
Katrina but actually happened after the storm went through, is a good
example of what is described in those ARRL emcomm courses.  Things were made
worse by the fact that many hams living there evacuated and were not allowed
back in to many areas, some legitimately like NOLA were very dangerous due
to two legged predators while other areas were merely storm damaged.  The
absence of amateur communications during the predictable communications
infrastructure failure made things worse, perhaps in NOLA, far worse.

The first communications with the affected area from the outside were HF CW.
It provides the most bang for the complexity and battery backup power makes
for simple but low power operation.  Also, the sunspot cycle is near minimum
and HF comm has been rather poor for weeks with various propagation
problems.  The next mode to come up was voice, ssb which works while the
generators are running and is down when the ops have to scramble for more
gasoline.  It took about 3 days for the digital modes to be restored or
setup, the direct Winlink internet modes and packet modes.  VHF may work
ideally inside the affected areas for short ranges but with massively tall
antennas and/or repeaters, the coverage of a handitalky is more in city
blocks than in miles.  Tall antennas and working repeaters in an emergencies
are not only rare occurances, they are a scarce resource when things really
get going at the local level.

In our area, which is flat as a pancake,  vhf comm can get us to the nearest
city and some of the surrounding counties, comfortably with repeaters,
possible without.  There are prepositioned VHF/UHF/HF stations at the
weather service, emergency op center, some hospitals, and other places.  Our
regional communications is HF which has greater than the repeater system
down here.  Amateur radio and amateur volunteers form an essential core of
volunteers for the emergency management professionals and are offered formal
training for both natural and manmade disasters along with the professional
first responders - however that is intended to enhance our abilities at
communicating in disasters rather than to put us in the teletubby suits and
scba to mop up some toxic spill.

A demonstration of communications difficulities was done as a part of a
level I or II hazmat class to emphasize the virtual impossibility of
detailed communications between responders over the radio.  It involved
describing how to construct a lego block  vehicle out of the blocks in order
to match a built one in another room by communicating over vhf handitalki.
W

Re: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies?

2005-09-06 Thread Mike Morrow
Jim wrote:

> ... each and very one of those guys passed a code test! 

This is definitely **not** a certainty, since the VEC process took over the 
operator licensing exam process.

Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies?

2005-09-06 Thread Jim Wiley


Yes Craig, and each and very one of those guys passed a code test!   Yes 
indeedy, that ole' Morse code sure does serve as a mighty fine filter to 
keep the riff raff out. 






- Jim, KL7CC


Craig Rairdin wrote:


Those who worry about ham radio becoming another citizen's band need only
scan 75M at night. They're too late. :-)


Craig



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[Elecraft] MARS Mods

2005-09-06 Thread Kenneth A Johnson
Does anyone on this discusion use a K2/100 for MARS?

Is there anyone here who can tell me how to modify a K2/100 for MARS operations?
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RE: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies? (WAS: Dropping the Code Test)

2005-09-06 Thread Craig Rairdin
> The longer we hold onto this myth, the more likely we are going to be 
> "found out" by those who regulate ham radio. We need leaders who can 
> help shape ham radio to fit the current reality, not bemoan the dirth 
> of skilled CW operators as a problem.

This all wraps around to dropping the Morse requirement. As much as we'd
like to find some justification for maintaining the requirement, it doesn't
seem like there is one -- from the perspective of Amateur Radio as a public
service.

That doesn't mean there's anything wrong with CW. It's the only mode I'm
interested in, though I bought a mic to test my SSB board. I find CW
challenging and therefore satisfying. After working several hundred Field
Day CW QSOs (my first FD in 30 years) I dropped into the phone tent and was
shocked at how long it took to complete a QSO. And at 2x the point value,
I'm not sure why we even had a phone station. We'd be better off with two CW
stations working two different bands.

Those who worry about ham radio becoming another citizen's band need only
scan 75M at night. They're too late. :-)

Craig

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RE: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies? (WAS: Dropping the Code Test)

2005-09-06 Thread EricJ
I think you are right on the money, Craig. That's my concern, that we are
all living a long-standing myth which DID have a basis in fact 30 years ago,
but is irrelevant to the world today. LOCAL hams can provide a vital
communication link with VHF from the immediate area hit to the outside
world. But ham emergency ops outside the area are an anachronism or at best
a minor player. 

The longer we hold onto this myth, the more likely we are going to be "found
out" by those who regulate ham radio. We need leaders who can help shape ham
radio to fit the current reality, not bemoan the dirth of skilled CW
operators as a problem.

Eric
KE6US
www.ke6us.com



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Rairdin
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Subject: RE: [Elecraft] CW in Emergencies? (WAS: Dropping the Code Test)


I suspect that both ham radio and the federal government are living in the
past. The Internet has eliminated much of the traditional ham radio activity
surrounding disasters (with the exception of course of local VHF activity),
and 24-hour news networks have become better eyes and ears than the
"official" government communication channels. 

Craig

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[Elecraft] OT - Importing GERBER files into PCB drafting software

2005-09-06 Thread Tom Hammond

I hope this topic will be short-lived...

I have just received several GERBER files for a PC board I'll be working with.

I only have the freeware versions of EAGLE and ExpressPCB to use.

Does anyone know if the Gerber files I received can be imported into either 
Eagle or ExpressPCB? If so, how?


And finally, is anyone aware of a program (hopefully free) which would at 
least permit me to view/print the (imaged) contents of the Gerber files I 
have? At present, I have no clue what was actually sent to me, so I'm not 
certain if they're only drill hole info or actual plot files.


PLEASE REPLY DIRECT TO ME and OFF REFLECTOR.  I don't want to create a lot 
of bandwidth on the reflector.


73,

Tom   N0SS

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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-06 Thread ron
 It's probably nothing to worry about because all the computers runs on 
DAYlight saving time.


I'm not sure what runs on DATlight saving (smile).

Ron wb1hga
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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-06 Thread G8IFF/KC8NHF
GMT doesn't rule here and we invented it!!

So with these new changes, Indiana will get really confused.

On Tuesday 06 September 2005 01:13, Fred Jensen wrote:

> 
> So many really important things in our world to deal with, so many 
> distractions.  Why can't GMT rule?
> 
> Fred K6DGW
> Auburn CA CM98lw

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Ordering form PA (AND UK!)

2005-09-06 Thread Rolf Schroeder
Just to give my experiences:
I ordered a K2 and several options as well as a K1 and several options
since Dec 2000 and everything was delivered via US Post Office
International Parcel Post (as suggested on Elecrafts homepage). It turned
out to be the cheapest way, was always fast (delivered almost always
within 5 days). After 2001 I never experiences any problems with customs,
just had to pay the national VAT.
vy 73
de Rolf, DL8BAG

>>
>> My second order (March 2005), for extra modules and upgrades went
>> through
>> with no problems.
>>
>> You pays your money and takes the chance.
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Ordering form PA (AND UK!)

2005-09-06 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
My experience is that the best carrier to use is UPS. Of those I have used 
UPS has always performed flawlessly with international purchases (not - 
Switzerland is not in the EU - so everything I buy goes through customs). If 
the parcel is correctly marked I can rely on UPS for efficiency, promptness 
and above all courtesy.


UPS may be a tad more expensive but it's well worth it.

Simon Brown
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RSGB HF Convention: Friday 7th - Sunday 9th October 2005
Holidays: Monday 10th - Thursday 20th October 2005

- Original Message - 
From: "Peter Howson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>




Just to add my experiences.

My first order for a K2 (Jan 2004) came through parcel force and full duty 
was charged. Parcelforce collect the duty for customs, but would not admit 
that they were in the wrong. I did manage to contact customs by phone, but 
only by way of a helpful receptionist who got the customs officer to 
return my call. I sent off the label on the parcel together with copies of 
the invoice. Then I received a letter saying that because of the 
"additional" evidence they would refund me, infering that it was my fault. 
I eventually received the refund, three months after.


My second order (March 2005), for extra modules and upgrades went through 
with no problems.


You pays your money and takes the chance.


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Re: [Elecraft] Datlight saving

2005-09-06 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
Hurrah! for Europe - the chaos in the US will be best observed from the 
safety of the old continent :-)


I just wonder how many people will start to complain when my software shows 
the wrong time :-(


It will actually be very easy to solve Windows-related problems.

Simon Brown
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From the horse's mouth:

"On August 8, 2005, President George W. Bush signed the Energy Policy Act 
of 2005. This Act changed the time change dates in the U.S. Beginning in 
2007, DST will begin on the second Sunday of March, and end the first 
Sunday of November. Note that the Secretary shall report to Congress on 
the impact of this change. Congress retains the right to revert the 
Daylight Saving Time back to the 2005 time schedules once the Department 
study is complete."



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[Elecraft] KAT100 remote and weatherproof?

2005-09-06 Thread OE3ZK Gerhard
Hi

I just wonder if somebody tried to weatherproof the KAT100 and operated it 
remotely directly at the antenna?

73
Gert, OE3ZK, K2#2200



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