Re: [Elecraft] EX-29 Headphones

2008-03-25 Thread David Yarnes
I believe Amazon is selling them for $79, and I assume that includes free 
shipping as well.


Dave W7AQK


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I just bought a pair on ebay for $79.00 shipped free.
I believe this seller has one pair left. They were
listed at $89.99/Best Offer, with free shipping. I
offered $75 and he countered with $79. It was a done
deal. You can search on seller audio-topia.

The link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=230234897653

73,
Dave
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Re[Elecraft] ccomended KXV3 wiring

2008-03-25 Thread AD6XY - Mike

What is the recommended way to make up the connectors between the 15 pin K3IO
interface and a series of XV transverters?

There are other signals on the 15 pin connector not associated with
transverting. I am wondering how to make up a suitable cable to extend the
15 pin port and to add the transverter connections. With the K2 cables and
connectors are daisy chained. With the high density 15 pin connector it
might be difficult wiring up all the signals in such a small space, let
alone fitting two wires onto some of the pins. 

It is almost worth making up a breakout PCB and using a standard 15pin-15pin
cable - assuming nobody else has produced one of these.

Mike
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Re[Elecraft] ccomended KXV3 wiring

2008-03-25 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
You can buy SVGA Y-Adapter cables very inexpensively (SVGA is the DIN15HD 
connector).  I found them at my local Fry's Electronics.  I see they are 
also on eBay.


Phil - AD5X 


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Re: Re[Elecraft] ccomended KXV3 wiring

2008-03-25 Thread Brian Alsop
Be careful.  Most VGA cables are missing wire connections to various 
pins.  For example pins 4 and 11 are almost always missing.  Pin 9 
sometimes. I have one cable that has only 9 wires.  These are not 
unimportant pins to many of us.  The fact that all pins are sometimes 
present in the connector, doesn't mean the wires are there.


Check out any cable you get with an ohmmeter to make sure the lines you 
want are present.


73 de Brian/K3KO

Phil  Debbie Salas wrote:

You can buy SVGA Y-Adapter cables very inexpensively (SVGA is the 
DIN15HD connector).  I found them at my local Fry's Electronics.  I 
see they are also on eBay.


Phil - AD5X
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Re: Re[Elecraft] ccomended KXV3 wiring

2008-03-25 Thread Ian White GM3SEK

Brian Alsop wrote:
Be careful.  Most VGA cables are missing wire connections to various 
pins.  For example pins 4 and 11 are almost always missing.  Pin 9 
sometimes. I have one cable that has only 9 wires.  These are not 
unimportant pins to many of us.  The fact that all pins are sometimes 
present in the connector, doesn't mean the wires are there.


Check out any cable you get with an ohmmeter to make sure the lines you 
want are present.




There are many ground return connections in the standard SVGA pinout, so 
some of those wires may actually be shields. They might also be 
connected together.


This is looking less and less like a good idea...


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[Elecraft] K3 2nd receiver filter question

2008-03-25 Thread Dr. Werner Furlan
If I order the 2nd receiver, do I need any additional filter for the 2nd 
receiver?
I know that I can add roofing filters, but I am not sure if one is built in.

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 2nd receiver filter question

2008-03-25 Thread Darwin, Keith
Just like the main receiver, the 2nd RX comes with the 5 pole 2.7 KHz
filter and has spaces for others.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 Wave 3 -

-Original Message-
If I order the 2nd receiver, do I need any additional filter for the 2nd
receiver?
I know that I can add roofing filters, but I am not sure if one is built
in.

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RE: [Elecraft] Solder fumes

2008-03-25 Thread Michael Harvey

I think an amplifier either tubed or solid state or power supply project in a 
case to match either K2 or K3 would be a fun project. Maybe a legal limit tuner 
as well. I would like to have a complete kit built station. There was an 
amplifier in the works if I remember right.
 
Mike
 
AB0TX...
 
K2  4841 Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:51:00 + From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
elecraft@mailman.qth.net CC:  Subject: [Elecraft] Solder fumes  It goes 
without saying that Elecraft have produced an excellent piece of technology in 
the K3 but even in  the kit form it doesn't quite have the I built it 
feeling like the other Elecraft products. Having said that I'm  sure there is 
no way that the average builder could attempt something quite so complex given 
the amount  of surface mount involved.  So, does the K3 represent the end of 
kit building as we know it - where do we go from here. What could  Elecraft 
offer that would be both technologically challenging (in design and for the 
builder) and capable  of being home built with a mixture of large SMD (some 
pre-mounted perhaps) and normal components.  How about a new design K2  ELF 
receiver. Station monitor scope  What would you like to see next ..  
Those of us here that have built K1, K2, Kx1, XV's etc will know what I'm 
talking about - this building  thing is addictive, it must be something to do 
with the solder fumes.  73 to all Trevor G0KTN 
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Re: Re[Elecraft] ccomended KXV3 wiring

2008-03-25 Thread Don Brown

Hi

Its been a while since I built a K2/multi transverter setup but you only 
need 4 wires for each transverter. Pins 6, 8, 9 and 1 on the transverter 9 
pin connector. These are all daisy chained to each transverter. The only 
difference in the K2 and K3 would be the 15 pin on the K3 end or a 9 pin for 
a K2.


For the K3 connector pin 2 (AUXBUS) connects to pin 6 on the transverter. 
Pin 7 (XVTR ON) connects to pin 8 on the transverter. Pin 10 (KEYOUT-LP) 
connects to pin 9 on the transverter. The ground pin 5 or 12 connects to pin 
1 on the transverter.


Don Brown
KD5NDB

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What is the recommended way to make up the connectors between the 15 pin 
K3IO

interface and a series of XV transverters?

There are other signals on the 15 pin connector not associated with
transverting. I am wondering how to make up a suitable cable to extend the
15 pin port and to add the transverter connections. With the K2 cables and
connectors are daisy chained. With the high density 15 pin connector it
might be difficult wiring up all the signals in such a small space, let
alone fitting two wires onto some of the pins.

It is almost worth making up a breakout PCB and using a standard 
15pin-15pin

cable - assuming nobody else has produced one of these.

Mike
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[Elecraft] Straight Key J37 or J38

2008-03-25 Thread WILLIS COOKE
I bought four keys at EBay auction two weeks ago, A
J37, a J38, a Navy Flameproof and a Russian Minature. 
They ranged in price from $31 to $37 and I considered
them bargains.  The last time I tried these keys were
going for $80 to $100 which I refused to pay, even for
collectibles, so I bought a Bencher RJ-1 new.  It is a
far better key than the others.  I have heard good
things about the Junker, but I have not used one.  For
an every day key, I would recommend the Bencher RJ1 or
the RJ2 if you like a chrome base for about $100 or
$120 respectively.  For a $3 key, see my CW Hinge junk
box key.  It is as easy to use as the J37 or J38, but
not as easy as the Bencher.

Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ
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[Elecraft] OT - Straight Key for your Elecraft

2008-03-25 Thread Ken Kopp

Cookie, others ...

I've been a CW op since 1951 and at one time even
earned a living as a shipboard RO.  I recently sold
a straight key collection of almost 200 keys on eBay.
Some brought astounding prices ... one $1501 !

The Bencher RJ-1/2 is ... in my opinion ... indeed an 
excellent  key and I have one beside my K3.  The

flameproof Navy key is also an fine unit.  The J-38
family of keys are good, but nothing special.  My 
pick of all however, is a brass key made in the '30's 
by Signal Electric, and I kept mine.  I mounted it of 
a piece of marble obtained as a tombstone sample. (:-)) 


If just learning to send code -most- important advice I can
offer is to -never- let the forearm touch the able.  The thumb
and next two fingers rest on the key's knob and the elbow
on the table.  The wrist becomes a flexible spring.  NEVER
rest the arm on the table and use the wrist for the up-and-
down motion.  You -will- develop the infamous glass fist.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re[Elecraft] ccomended KXV3 wiring

2008-03-25 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
The SVGA Y-adapter I found at Fry's Electronics had all 15 pins wired straight 
across.  MAybe I was just lucky.

Phil - AD5X

Brian Alsop wrote:
Be careful.  Most VGA cables are missing wire connections to various 
pins.  For example pins 4 and 11 are almost always missing.  Pin 9 
sometimes. I have one cable that has only 9 wires.  These are not 
unimportant pins to many of us.  The fact that all pins are sometimes 
present in the connector, doesn't mean the wires are there.

Check out any cable you get with an ohmmeter to make sure the lines you 
want are present.


There are many ground return connections in the standard SVGA pinout, so 
some of those wires may actually be shields. They might also be 
connected together.

This is looking less and less like a good idea...


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[Elecraft] K2 KIO2 Hi Current Draw

2008-03-25 Thread Clark Macaulay
Have looked for my problem by searching the archives and haven't found any 
answers.  The KIO2 is the last option I'm installing in my K2 bought at Dayton 
LAST year (I like to stretch out the building process).  Last night, in the 
initial checkout, when I touched the KIO2 board to hold it for measuring 
voltage at pin 8 of U1, it was hot to the touch.  I quickly checked current 
draw test and it failed.  
   
  All components are in their right place and I've checked for solder 
bridges/loose wires and found none.  Is it possible that U1 has failed and has 
an internal short?  I've stared at the circuit and can't see what else could be 
the problem.
   
  Any ideas out there?
   
  73 de Clark ke4rq
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[Elecraft] K3 and Omni VII.

2008-03-25 Thread Dave Agsten
Let me start off by stating that I'm not looking for a
spec by spec comparison of these two radios. The jury
is already in on that. I hope I can just keep a few
shots from firing by saying that first.

I'm interested in hearing from anyone who has both the
Omni VII and a K3. I'd like to know from an operating
perspective what you think of both radios. I know they
each have their strengths and a few weaknesses. I'm
interested in A/B, side by side testing, during real
operating conditions. Does one hear better than the
other? Is one easier to operate? I know this is a
personal thing, but I'd like to hear about it. Also,
anything else that comes to mind would be appreciated.

I had an OMNI V back when they first came out. It was
a great radio at the time and probably can still hold
its own against most of what's out there now. I've
just always wanted to buy another Ten-Tec and did look
for a V for awhile. With the VII out there now, that
would seem the way to go at this point. I do have a
second K3, a QRP version, on order. 

Another reason for looking at the Omni VII is that I'm
very interested in buying as much American made gear
for my shack as I can. I have a 756 PRO III that is
the last of my Japanese stuff. All that's saving it at
this point is the real-time bandscope. I'm still
considering either selling it or trading it in. 

Please respond off list if you think this might
generate a lot of flack. That's not my intention at
all. I'm just beating the bushes for information.

Tnx es 73,
Dave N8AG


  

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[Elecraft] K3 vs Omni VII

2008-03-25 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Well, you didn't say what kind of operating: rag chews during the
week, contesting on 160 or during CQWW, PSK in the evening, OF net on
75m AM, etc.

However, if you already have a K3 and another on order, why not just
buy the VII and see for yourself.  As I read it, TT has a 30 day, no
questions asked, return policy.  Pretty good!

http://radio.tentec.com/Amateur/Salesinfo
See the 5th paragraph down.

Seems like a no-brainer to me.  Take it for test drive!  If you like
it better or as much, there is a large contingent of anxious K3
wanna-bees just waiting for one to hit the market with no waiting
period.  And if you like the K3 better, you have 30 days to send the
VII back.  Simple!

de Doug KR2Q
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[Elecraft] K3 #611 QRV

2008-03-25 Thread John Graf
The Mojo continues!  I finished the K3 this weekend.  The first two  
answers to my CQ were Paraguay and Chile.  Then I worked 5T5DC split  
on 40M.  So, how do you get non-DX stations to answer you?  :-)


I am still learning the rig, but wow -- that receiver is sure quiet.   
I am loving life!


73,

John, WA6L
K3: 611





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Re: Re[Elecraft] ccomended KXV3 wiring

2008-03-25 Thread Don Brown

Hi

I don't think a 15 pin Y adapter is going to be useful in connecting a 
transverter unless you are also connecting some other peripherals like a PA 
or band decoder that require I/O pins in the 15 pin connector in addition to 
the 4 pins required for the transverters.


If you are thinking of using the Y adapter to connect several transverters 
then you will still need to make up 15 to 9 pin adapters with the proper 
pins connected for the transverters. The simplest solution id to make up a 4 
wire cable with one 15 pin connector for the K3 and one or more 9 pin 
connectors for each transverter daisy chained.


The cable details are shown in the transverter manual for a K2. For the K3 
the 9 pin connector is replaced with a 15 pin D type connector and is wired 
as described in the K3 manual


Don Brown
KD5NDB

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The SVGA Y-adapter I found at Fry's Electronics had all 15 pins wired 
straight across.  MAybe I was just lucky.


Phil - AD5X

Brian Alsop wrote:

Be careful.  Most VGA cables are missing wire connections to various
pins.  For example pins 4 and 11 are almost always missing.  Pin 9
sometimes. I have one cable that has only 9 wires.  These are not
unimportant pins to many of us.  The fact that all pins are sometimes
present in the connector, doesn't mean the wires are there.

Check out any cable you get with an ohmmeter to make sure the lines you
want are present.



There are many ground return connections in the standard SVGA pinout, so
some of those wires may actually be shields. They might also be
connected together.

This is looking less and less like a good idea...


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 vs Omni VII

2008-03-25 Thread Darwin, Keith
-Original Message-
...TT has a 30 day, no questions asked, return policy.  Pretty good!

... Take it for test drive!  ... And if you like the K3 better, you have
30 days to send the VII back.  Simple!
--

But what if you like 'em both??? LOL!

I had an Omni V.  Two of them actually.  One stock, one fully tricked
out v0.9 complete with Inrad roofing filter and Inrad IF filters.  Sold
them both to go to the K2.

I've had several TT rigs and like them but find the overall sound to be
on the noisy side.  Lots of IF hiss and in the case of the Omni V,
rather rough sounding audio.  My 830s sounded so smooth and sweet
compared to the rough / spikey Omni.

K2 sounds great.  Nice  relaxing.  I can operate with out getting
bugged by the sound.  I'm hoping the K3 will be similar.  I fear
TenTec's latest rigs aren't going to sound any better than the Corsair
II, Omni C, Omni V and having been there, I'm not rushing to go back.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 Wave 3 (soon) - 

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 and Omni VII.

2008-03-25 Thread Michael Harvey

The Ten Tec is a very nice transceiver. I have looked at both K3 and Omni VII 
specs in detail and according to those, the K3 has the advantage. I won't dig 
into IMD or dynamic blocking specs as all those are available on the net. There 
were some things that jumped out at me when comparing the two that I thought I 
would share in plain english with the reflector:
 
The Omni VII takes a snap shot of the spectrum and does not display real time 
on its band scope like the ProIII. Of course the K3 does not have a band scope 
but I think it is a novelty since I have never used it during a contest or 
other wise. It looks cool but then so does a spectrum analyzer which serves a 
real function!
 
The Omni VII does have general coverage on the receiver which is an option on 
the K3. Past Omni's were ham bands only. This does not mean a lot to me as I 
hardly ever use a general coverage. I would rather have ham bands only.
 
The Omni does have rack mount plates which would be nice in my shack. I could 
probably build them for a K3 cheaper that I could buy them from Ten Tec though.
 
Adding options later is simpler with the K3. If you order a Omni VII without an 
internal antenna tuner, You can't order just the internal tuner and put it in 
yourself. I suppose a desktop antenna tuner would be a better option unless you 
wanted to use it portable.
 
The K3 looks more modern with performance that matches. The Omni VII really 
kinda looks cheaply made in my opnion. They are getting better though! The K3 
competes with radios costing almost 4 tims as much, and is half the size. 
 
The Omni VII has a lot of reviews on EHAM and still has a 5.0 rating. This does 
not mean much but I do enjoy reading what problems others have had with their 
experience with certian products. One can make a pretty good decision as to an 
honest review or someone who is just upset with the item or company and wants 
to rant. Ten Tec has a very loyal following and good but customer support even 
if the service is a bit pricey.
 
I would not mind owning either of these trancievers as I mostly operate CW and 
enjoy the quiet receiver on Ten Tec radios. I have listened to but never 
operated a K3. If it betters the receiver in my K2 which watching the reflector 
seems to be the case, then I would go with the K3. I don't think I would be 
disappointed with either radio.Mike
 
AB0TX
 
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[Elecraft] K2-100 + KAT-100 for sale

2008-03-25 Thread H. Cary III
From: H. Cary, K4TM
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 2:07 PM
To: 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: K2-100 + KAT-100 for sale

K2-100, #5266 FOR SALE.  Toroids by Mychael, aligned by W3FPR, includes: KSB-2 
SSB Adapter, KDSP2 internal DSP filter/real time clock, KNB2 noise blanker,  
K60XV 60-Meter  transverter adapter, K160RX 160-meter module.  Excellent 
condition, non-smoking environment.  Kit price $1563, sell for $985 includes 
shipping CONUS.
Also FOR SALE KAT-100 automatic antenna tuner, kit price $239, sell for $185 
also includes shipping.
Reason?  I have a K3-100.  Need I say more?
Contact off list, please: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
73,
H Cary, K4TM
Lynchburg, VA


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Re: [Elecraft] Farnsworth Method

2008-03-25 Thread Phil Kane

WILLIS COOKE wrote:


I have not been able to find out who old
Farnsworth was, but my guess is he was an operator
about 1910 when the Bug got popular and he needed to
train someone and wanted to use his bug. 


B'Gosh and B'Golly!  Don't know who old Farnsworth was?

Philo T. Farnsworth was a Utah native who in 1927 got the first patent 
for the image dissector video camera tube which enabled television as 
we know it.  RCA's Sarnoff stole it and the designation of Inventor of 
TV from him just as he - Sarnoff - stole FM radio from Major Edwin 
Armstrong but that's a different rant.  Some of the FM and TV 
transmitters serving Salt Lake City are located on a mountaintop named 
Farnsworth Peak in his honor.


He was born in 1906, entered Brigham Young University in 1920, and there 
is no indication in his biography that he was a radio operator, ham or 
otherwise.  His electronic genius extended to other areas, primarily 
development of electronic devices.


Just like Major Armstrong, his battle with Sarnoff's RCA took its toll 
on him, but it's been only the past few decades that his honor and 
achievements have been recognized for what they were.


73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

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[Elecraft] WA3WSJ's New AT QSL Card

2008-03-25 Thread Edward R. Breneiser
Hello all,

If you work WA3WSJ while I'm on the trail, I'll send you my new WA3WSJ
AT QSL Card. Click on the link below to view it.


http://wa3wsj.homestead.com/

72,
Roo Bear Ed, WA3WSJ

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[Elecraft] K2 Interfacing Questions / N3FJP Software

2008-03-25 Thread Derek Brown
I plan to use one of N3FJP's logging programs in conjunction with my K2
with the I/O option installed.  I will be using the custom serial cable
that was constructed along with the I/O option.  I want to be able to
key the rig with my laptop PC (use the message buffers in the software)
and either external paddles (using the internal keyer) or my paddle
using my Super CMOS external keyer.  

 

1)  Can I send the message buffers (key the rig) using ONLY the custom
serial cable (and no separate cable to the key input)?

2)   If I also use my paddle (and the internal keyer) or my paddles and
external keyer, will I need to construct the Y interface cable in the
Elecraft manual?

3)   If I need to construct the Y adapter, what connections / active
devices are required?

4)  What keyer input selection should be used on the K2 - hand, paddle
or auto-detect?

 

I could find out the answers to the above questions by experimentation
but I'm sure that some of you have already been there, done that.

 

*** PLEASE - NO recommendations of other logging / control programs.***

 

Derek, WF4I

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Re: [Elecraft] way off topic...sorry

2008-03-25 Thread Phil Kane

Darwin, Keith wrote:


Here is a site you (that's the plural form) may be interested in.  It
lists many common errors in English.  It's great fun to click and read.

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html


Have you ever been exposed to the joys of Strunk and White's The 
Elements of Style?  I was able to avoid it in undergrad school but it 
was a required text in my law school's Legal Writing class, as well as 
the Holy Writ for the resident grammarian to whom I've been married for 
a couple of decades.


73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402
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[Elecraft] K3 MOJO...

2008-03-25 Thread cx7tt
K3 #250 arrived after I had requested a delay due to my being away from 
QTH until this past ThursdayQuickly got all set up and plug into 40m 
dipole at friend's house in FL. Using club call W4YY, 1st qso was 
barefoot to E74IW which is new ITU prefix assigned to previous T9...had 
great fun playing with differnt knobs and referencing the manualnext 
morning, up early and got T80W also on 40cw...heard him say qsy to 60m 
channel and lo and behold, I could hear him calling CQ USA, wow! Never 
heard dx on 60m before...unfortunately, rig did not come with ordered 
ATU so not able to attempt qso. BARG rtty contest was on so waaay cool 
to see the print out via TEXT DEC. Mostly used the speaker which sounded 
'strong'; did notice some distortion when very loud signals were 
blasting thru but fixed when turned down the volumne. Friend had Heil 
ProSet headphones and noticed significant reduction in volume when those 
were plugged in...had to really crank up the AF to get decent 
copy...must be very different impedance?  All together, very satisfying 
experience.  Would still like to see some sort of primer on the 
operating of the shift-lo-cut-hi-width knobs. Be great to hear from 
those who have tinkered with different settings and can recommend 
different configs for different condx, i.e., 160m weak sig, cw contest, 
ssb contest and general ragchew...(N6XI, W4ZV, you guys have some 
suggestions?)
Now, back in CX land so will be on in WPX ssb this weekend, barefoot to 
vertical dipoles and centerfed zepp/ladderline. Big test will be in May 
WPX cw contest with amp/tower and 3 ele Steppir.

73
Tom
CX7TT



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Re: Re[Elecraft] ccomended KXV3 wiring

2008-03-25 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:20:58 -0500, Don Brown wrote:

[snip]
The simplest solution id to make up a 4 
wire cable with one 15 pin connector for the K3 and one or more 9 pin 
connectors for each transverter daisy chained.

The cable details are shown in the transverter manual for a K2. For the K3 
the 9 pin connector is replaced with a 15 pin D type connector and is wired 
as described in the K3 manual

[snip]

In addition, each XVTR kit comes with it's own 9 pin connector/cable and wiring
instructions for single or daisy chained use.

Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq

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to obtain a little temporary safety 
deserve neither liberty nor safety.

--Benjamin Franklin 1775


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Re: [Elecraft] WA3WSJ's New AT QSL Card

2008-03-25 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF

BTW, I live about 11 miles from Reading, berkshire, UK :-)
--  
The rung of a ladder was never meant to rest upon, but only to hold a  
man's

foot long enough to enable him to put the other somewhat higher.
-Thomas Henry Huxley, biologist and writer (1825-1995)

On 25 Mar 2008, at 19:13, Edward R. Breneiser wrote:


WA3WSJ


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 vs Omni VII

2008-03-25 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:24:52 -0700, you wrote:

-Original Message-
...TT has a 30 day, no questions asked, return policy.  Pretty good!

... Take it for test drive!  ... And if you like the K3 better, you have
30 days to send the VII back.  Simple!
--

But what if you like 'em both??? LOL!

I had an Omni V.  Two of them actually.  One stock, one fully tricked
out v0.9 complete with Inrad roofing filter and Inrad IF filters.  Sold
them both to go to the K2.

I've had several TT rigs and like them but find the overall sound to be
on the noisy side.  Lots of IF hiss and in the case of the Omni V,
rather rough sounding audio.  My 830s sounded so smooth and sweet
compared to the rough / spikey Omni.

K2 sounds great.  Nice  relaxing.  I can operate with out getting
bugged by the sound.  I'm hoping the K3 will be similar.  I fear
TenTec's latest rigs aren't going to sound any better than the Corsair
II, Omni C, Omni V and having been there, I'm not rushing to go back.

[snip]

I have an Orion II.  The receiver has a lot of hiss.  However it does have good
selectivity and filtering.  It will go up for sale when the K3, ordered in Late
October, arrives.

After owning several Drake, Kenwood and Yaesu rigs I found it to be the noisiest
of them all.  A test comparing my R7 RX with the Orion RX revealed the R7 MDS to
be just a tad better than the Orion II.

Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq

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deserve neither liberty nor safety.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Omni VII.

2008-03-25 Thread WA6L


Hi, Dave,

I have owned several Ten-Tec rigs in the past and loved them all.  I still
have an Argonaut V that I use for QRP.

I, like you, agonized over the K3 vs. Omni VII issue.  I, like you, had
ordered a K3 and came close to cancelling the order a dozen times.  One day
it was the K3, the next the Omni VII.  I was having a heck of a time waiting
for my delivery date.

Well, with the K3 finally here, I can say that I am so, so glad that I
waited.  The K3 is the finest rig I have ever owned.

Yes, I could be saying the same thing about my Omni VII if I had gone that
route.  But one thing that bothered me about the Omni is that you were
limited on your options.  Two filters and the ATU -- those are your options.

The K3 can be customized to meet your needs, and can be changed fairly
easily and cheaply.  The ATU can be added any time.  It is the same with the
filters and the general coverage receiive.  And when the KRX3 comes out, you
have a second receiver that not only beats the pants off the Omni VII, but
the Orion itself.

The receiver on the K3 is incredibly quiet.  Thise specs that you read about
are actually noticeable when you are operating the rig.  The QSK is the best
I have heard -- if not better than Ten-Tec then certainly every bit as good. 
I have not done a feature-per-feature comparison between the two rigs, but I
can't imagine a single feature that is lacking on the K3.

So, my advice is to be patient a bit longer and go for the K3.  I really
don't think you will be disappointed.

73,

John, WA6L





Dave Agsten wrote:
 
 Let me start off by stating that I'm not looking for a
 spec by spec comparison of these two radios. The jury
 is already in on that. I hope I can just keep a few
 shots from firing by saying that first.
 
 Please respond off list if you think this might
 generate a lot of flack. That's not my intention at
 all. I'm just beating the bushes for information.
 
 Tnx es 73,
 Dave N8AG
 
 
  

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[Elecraft] K3 MOJO...

2008-03-25 Thread cx7tt
K3 #250 arrived after I had requested a delay due to my being away from 
QTH until this past ThursdayQuickly got all set up and plug into 40m 
dipole at friend's house in FL. Using club call W4YY, 1st qso was 
barefoot to E74IW which is new ITU prefix assigned to previous T9...had 
great fun playing with differnt knobs and referencing the manualnext 
morning, up early and got T80W also on 40cw...heard him say qsy to 60m 
channel and lo and behold, I could hear him calling CQ USA, wow! Never 
heard dx on 60m before...unfortunately, rig did not come with ordered 
ATU so not able to attempt qso. BARG rtty contest was on so waaay cool 
to see the print out via TEXT DEC. Mostly used the speaker which sounded 
'strong'; did notice some distortion when very loud signals were 
blasting thru but fixed when turned down the volumne. Friend had Heil 
ProSet headphones and noticed significant reduction in volume when those 
were plugged in...had to really crank up the AF to get decent 
copy...must be very different impedance?  All together, very satisfying 
experience.  Would still like to see some sort of primer on the 
operating of the shift-lo-cut-hi-width knobs. Be great to hear from 
those who have tinkered with different settings and can recommend 
different configs for different condx, i.e., 160m weak sig, cw contest, 
ssb contest and general ragchew...(N6XI, W4ZV, you guys have some 
suggestions?)
Now, back in CX land so will be on in WPX ssb this weekend, barefoot to 
vertical dipoles and centerfed zepp/ladderline. Big test will be in May 
WPX cw contest with amp/tower and 3 ele Steppir.

73
Tom
CX7TT
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[Elecraft] K3 serial 499 build and operation

2008-03-25 Thread Andrew Forrest

Dear all,

finished building K3/100 0499 about a week ago. Took me three days of
not full time effort. No problems or missing parts. Everything went by
the book. Operating did cause some problems to start with. The
configuration and initialisation didn't work to start off with. I did
not realise this. The symptoms were producing 84 watts with a 50 watt
demand and not being able to get a low frequency audio response out of
the standard filter, fine on the others. Setting up the filter offset
correctly and doing the transmitter and watt meter initialisations again
cured the problem. I don't know if updating the firmware overwrote my
settings. I will probably never know. I get the standard 47 watts out
for 50 watt demand using the watt meter in an ACOM1000 amp as reference.
I also didn't get the AFX effects until reading on the list to set
number of speakers to 2, thanks. I use a Mac mostly so used the Mac
firmware update utility. It works really well and its very nice to get
support for the mac. Most radio software ignores the Mac.

Ease of operation is great. The bandwidth choosing controls work
beautifully. The response appears to be completely flat across the audio
spectrum as measured with the MixW spectrum display. This is a very
welcome change from the K2. Setting up the frequency calibration to
better than a Hz was also very easy, again in contrast to the K2. The
general ergonomics are very good, I even dared to operate split with no
problems. The PA appears to be extremely robust. The PA temp rises very
little even with 50 watts continuous digital modes and I can't hear any
fans activity over the noise from my computer. SSB operation is very
smooth. Couldn't resist trying out the K3/10 before putting in the amp.
Called a German station on 40m  and got a reply and 59 first call. I'm
very happy with the whole radio.

Now the less good news. I appear to have lost about 3db of IMD transmit
performance compared to the K2. I use a KK7UQ IMD monitor for PSK31 and
am now often getting -27dB rather than the usual -30dB or better on the
K2. These figures don't seem to be very power dependent and I don't
think theres going to be a firmware fix, although performance is still
in the top half of signals I see on the bands. The second thing I am
noticing is ghosts in the waterfall display of MixW. I assumed that I
was driving the audio card too hard and getting harmonics, but this is
not the case. The ghost signals do move faster across the waterfall than
the tuning rate implying harmonics but I can decode the ghosts, so the
bandwidth of the ghost signals has not changed which it would do with a
harmonic. Ghosts are about 20-30db down on the correct signals, outside
of the chosen radio pass passband. I'm sure I didn't seem them with the
K2. They appear to have no effect on the actual decoding of digital
signals but I'd like to know what they are.

Someone mentioned having to follow PSK signals across the band as each
over occurred at a slightly different frequency.  There are plenty of
fixes involving keeping the transmit frequency fixed and using RIT, but
I've seen the same thing, and am interested to find out how this is
happening.  One possibility is that MixW and other programs can have an
offset between receive and transmit frequencies. When I looked in the
mode settings for PSK on MixW they were 3Hz apart. I even noticed send
and receive offset when talking to another K3, but I am pretty sure this
is a software not radio problem. Some contacts have zero offset.

Overall I highly recommend the K3, its a joy to use (and fun to build).
Looking forward to the sub-receiver, panoramic displays etc.

Andrew Forrest
M1KAZ (K2 #3679,K3 #0499)
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Re: [Elecraft] Farnsworth Method

2008-03-25 Thread Bill W5WVO

Phil Kane wrote:


Philo T. Farnsworth was a Utah native who in 1927 got the first patent
for the image dissector video camera tube which enabled television
as we know it.  RCA's Sarnoff stole it and the designation of
Inventor of TV from him just as he - Sarnoff - stole FM radio from
Major Edwin Armstrong...


An interesting sidenote -- Sarnoff started making people call him General 
Sarnoff after WWII, during the final years of his legal battles with 
Armstrong, because he felt Armstrong being addressed as Major Armstrong 
imbued him with an unfair aura of honor and credibility. (Sarnoff had been 
granted a special commission as a Brigadier General during the war so he could 
serve as a communications consultant to General Eisenhower.)


Bill W5WVO

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[Elecraft] FS Clifton Labs Panadaptor Z90

2008-03-25 Thread n6ax

   I bought an amplifier so the panadapter needs to go.
   Excellent  condition  Clifton Laboratories model Z90 panadapterset
   up for= K3 IF frequency...settable to any IF you need.
   LCD display is 6 diagonal measure.
   Case is black to match the K3...excellent unit works great...supported
   but = no longer produced. Includes latest firmware, manual.
   $550.00 delivered in lower 48
   Paypal OK
   Please email off list
   John, N6AX
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[Elecraft] Farnsworth Method

2008-03-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Over the years I've spoken with many Hams who were unable to break through
to decent CW proficiency until they encountered the Farnsworth method. Until
I actually got on the air and was talking with CW, it was hard for me too.
For their success, I'm happy to see the Farnsworth method practiced. 

Success with Farnsworth code requires TWO steps be completed. I've run into
many Hams who are frustrated to the point of quitting CW because they only
completed the first step. 

The first step is to be able to read individual characters at some chosen
target speed. To do that, relatively large spaces are left between
characters - long enough for the brain to finally go Aha! and recognize
each character before the next one is sent. 

The second step is to reduce the spaces between characters to match the
target speed, so the CW flows properly. Just as there's the important 3:1
ratio between dits and dahs, there are equally important ratios between
elements, characters and words.

I've run across many Hams how never learned to copy with the right character
and word spacings. For them, on-air CW from most operators is a confusing
string of dits and dahs.

Because they never learned to copy CW characters at various speeds, they
can't copy even if the sending station slows down, lengthening the dits and
dahs correctly while maintaining the correct spacing and cadence. For them,
CW at 8 or 10 WPM is just gibberish sent very slowly.  

If you choose to learn using Farnsworth spacing, understand that it's
critical you learn to copy with the correct character/word spacing as well,
and then you learn to copy a range of speeds with the correct spacing, at
least over the range of 8 or 9 WPM up to perhaps 20 WPM. Some of the new
Hams I've helped found learning to copy correctly-sent CW at least as
difficult as learning the characters initially. 

I'm still happy I learned with the correct spacing from the start,
struggling to get my copy up to 5 WPM to pass the Novice exam, then the 13
WPM General, 20 WPM Extra Amateur license, and the 20 WPM Second Class
Commercial Radiotelegraph operator's license using all the punctuation marks
(anyone remember what a dollar sign is in CW? How about parenthesis,
brackets or a semicolon? - I know you do Phil! You're just an FCC bear in
retired Ham's clothing!) Nowadays I take great pleasure in being able to
copy those with very... Er... obscure fists G.  

I didn't realize the ARRL was sending code practice using Farnsworth, but
I've *never* heard them send bulletins or other material with anything but
the correct spacing. 

Of course, Farnsworth spacing is perfect is perfect CW, once the spacing
is corrected for the target speed. 

Fun with CW is to get that proficiency, copying with the proper spacing and
with an ever-increasing range of speeds. 

Ron AC7AC

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Re: [Elecraft] Farnsworth Method

2008-03-25 Thread Jack Smith




B'Gosh and B'Golly!  Don't know who old Farnsworth was?



delete material about Philo Farnsworth


Quite true, but Wikipedia says the Morse code Farnsworth is not the same 
guy:


   People learning Morse code using the *Farnsworth method*, named for
   Donald R. Russ Farnsworth, also known by his call sign
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_sign, W6TTB, are taught to send
   and receive letters and other symbols at their full target speed,
   that is with normal relative timing of the dots, dashes and spaces
   within each symbol for that speed.

Being Wikipedia, I don't know if it's true or not, of course.

Jack K8ZOA
www.cliftonlaboratories.com

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Re: [Elecraft] Farnsworth Method

2008-03-25 Thread Tom McCulloch

Hi Ron,
I absolutely agree with your comments and observations.  If I might 
respectfully add a third step might be to hear words.  I think once we can 
copy a qso in heads we are well on our way to increasing our copy speed.


A beginner would do well not to right down every letter.  Common things like 
RST and QTH are a good place to start and then move on from there.


Nice thread, tnx
Tom

WB2QDG
- Original Message - 
From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:31 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Farnsworth Method


Over the years I've spoken with many Hams who were unable to break through
to decent CW proficiency until they encountered the Farnsworth method. Until
I actually got on the air and was talking with CW, it was hard for me too.
For their success, I'm happy to see the Farnsworth method practiced.

Success with Farnsworth code requires TWO steps be completed. I've run into
many Hams who are frustrated to the point of quitting CW because they only
completed the first step.

The first step is to be able to read individual characters at some chosen
target speed. To do that, relatively large spaces are left between
characters - long enough for the brain to finally go Aha! and recognize
each character before the next one is sent.

The second step is to reduce the spaces between characters to match the
target speed, so the CW flows properly. Just as there's the important 3:1
ratio between dits and dahs, there are equally important ratios between
elements, characters and words.

I've run across many Hams how never learned to copy with the right character
and word spacings. For them, on-air CW from most operators is a confusing
string of dits and dahs.

Because they never learned to copy CW characters at various speeds, they
can't copy even if the sending station slows down, lengthening the dits and
dahs correctly while maintaining the correct spacing and cadence. For them,
CW at 8 or 10 WPM is just gibberish sent very slowly.

If you choose to learn using Farnsworth spacing, understand that it's
critical you learn to copy with the correct character/word spacing as well,
and then you learn to copy a range of speeds with the correct spacing, at
least over the range of 8 or 9 WPM up to perhaps 20 WPM. Some of the new
Hams I've helped found learning to copy correctly-sent CW at least as
difficult as learning the characters initially.

I'm still happy I learned with the correct spacing from the start,
struggling to get my copy up to 5 WPM to pass the Novice exam, then the 13
WPM General, 20 WPM Extra Amateur license, and the 20 WPM Second Class
Commercial Radiotelegraph operator's license using all the punctuation marks
(anyone remember what a dollar sign is in CW? How about parenthesis,
brackets or a semicolon? - I know you do Phil! You're just an FCC bear in
retired Ham's clothing!) Nowadays I take great pleasure in being able to
copy those with very... Er... obscure fists G.

I didn't realize the ARRL was sending code practice using Farnsworth, but
I've *never* heard them send bulletins or other material with anything but
the correct spacing.

Of course, Farnsworth spacing is perfect is perfect CW, once the spacing
is corrected for the target speed.

Fun with CW is to get that proficiency, copying with the proper spacing and
with an ever-increasing range of speeds.

Ron AC7AC

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[Elecraft] K3: How I fixed my FP board Flex

2008-03-25 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Apparently there is variability in the amount of flex you might
experience when tapping the VFO A/B button.  If you are concerned
about the degree of flex you experience, then here are two easy
fixes I threw together tonight.  Both are very, well, ham-ish in
nature.

Please the links below.

This one shows the flex.  Your flex may be less than seen here.
Notice how the other top row buttons move when I tap the VFO A/B
button.  Make sure you have your speakers turned on.  This is a video
of less than spectacular quality, but you'll get the idea.
http://picasaweb.google.com/dougzzz/K3FPFlex

And here are the fixes.  The first one uses the insulator from an
alligator clip I had in my junk box.  Cheap and dirty...but it works
great.

The 2nd one uses some ordinary RG8A (PE not foam).  It's kinda neat
because most of us have this around the shack already.  The 4-40
hardware goes though the hole (already there) in the FP shield,
directly behind the REV button, and into the hole in the center of PE,
formerly occupied by the center conductor.

Here is the link.  All still photos.  I'm a better contester than
photographer.  :-)
http://picasaweb.google.com/dougzzz/FPFlexFixes

The 3rd option is to use a long nylon screw going the hole in the FP
shield.  I didn't have one around the house tonight, so I used what I
had.

So far, none of these are officially Elecraft-approved or sanctioned,
so YMMV.  Be careful with the placement.  The area right behind the
REV button has no exposed parts/circuitry that could be damaged.
Don't use metallic spacers!  :-)

de Doug KR2Q
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[Elecraft] Status of K3 Shipping??

2008-03-25 Thread Jim Harris
Hi,

At the chance of stirring the err of the fanatic faithful a question has become 
obvious over the last few days.  What is the status of K3 shipments?  It has 
been a week or more since there was a proclamation by anyone of receiving a K3 
or having received notification of a pending shipment.  Is all well in Aptos or 
???


Jim, AB0UK

 
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Re: [Elecraft] Farnsworth Method

2008-03-25 Thread Bill W5WVO

Tom McCulloch wrote:

I think once we can copy a qso in our heads we are well on our way to 
increasing our copy speed.


Absolutely.


A beginner would do well not to right down every letter.  Common
things like RST and QTH are a good place to start and then move
on from there.


This is well said and heeded. IMO, the way I first learned code as a kid --  
the traditional Novice way, writing down each letter in block caps -- is 
completely wrong-headed.


I believe I learned proper Morse despite the way I learned it, not because of 
it. During practice, the beginner should not write any decoded characters 
down, but gradually learn to understand what is sent in his/her head. This is 
equivalent to the immersion method of learning a foreign language. Once 
fluency has been achieved at a reasonable speed, writing the text down is 
easily added because it is a skill you already have, and the brain can cope 
with it in the margins.


This was all impressed upon me at a tender age (albeit not before I had 
already learned the code the wrong way) by the legendary Clara Reger, W2RUF 
(SK), where I heard her lecture on CW at a meeting of the Rochester [NY] 
Amateur Radio Association, probably in 1963 or 1964. Google her to get an idea 
of just why she was legendary in her own time, as now.


Bill W5WVO

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[Elecraft] FS KPA-100 XV-50

2008-03-25 Thread Phillip Buckholdt
Having rec my K-3, I am selling  a KPA-100  KAT-100 in a EC-2 case with 
interconnect cable, manuals power cable. 100% working order, $475.00.

XV-50 transverter with xtal oven $225.00
Repley off list to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Prices plus shipping in conus.

  Phil K8MBY 


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[Elecraft] K2 VFO linearization sequence

2008-03-25 Thread Scott McDowell
Hi

First off, I'm sorry to keep bugging everyone but I have a problem again.
I'm in the VFO linearization part of the second test on my K2, and am having

a problem that the manual doesn't say how to solve.
The manual says to set the VFO to anywhere between 7000 and 7100 khz. Then
enter the
cal pll and hold edit the second time to enter the vfo linearization
sequence.
When I do this I get an info 232 message that says I have to be on 40
meters, which I am on.
I can't seem to get past this.
Anyone run into this before, and if so what am I doing wrong?
thanks
Scott  N5SM
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Re: [Elecraft] Farnsworth Method

2008-03-25 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:31:28 -0700, you wrote:

Over the years I've spoken with many Hams who were unable to break through
to decent CW proficiency until they encountered the Farnsworth method. Until
I actually got on the air and was talking with CW, it was hard for me too.
For their success, I'm happy to see the Farnsworth method practiced. 

Success with Farnsworth code requires TWO steps be completed. I've run into
many Hams who are frustrated to the point of quitting CW because they only
completed the first step. 

The first step is to be able to read individual characters at some chosen
target speed. To do that, relatively large spaces are left between
characters - long enough for the brain to finally go Aha! and recognize
each character before the next one is sent. 

The second step is to reduce the spaces between characters to match the
target speed, so the CW flows properly. Just as there's the important 3:1
ratio between dits and dahs, there are equally important ratios between
elements, characters and words.

[snip]

A lot of Farnsworth learners never catch onto the rhythm part of it.

They did not use the Farnsworth method in the U.S. Army when I learned Morse
Code in 1962.  One of the hardest things for me to learn after (and during) my
training was to copy clear text, because all of our practice was with five
character groups (five characters and a space, then five more and a space,
etc.).  When someone threw a space in after the fourth character or sixth
character, it would really mess me up ;o)  I have the same problem now with
Farnsworth Senders who put too much space between words and characters.  It
usually ends up being a short QSO.

In the military classes we had phrases that were designed to help us recognize
individual characters.  Grandma did it was for 'Z',  The Darned Old Jay was
for 'J' and Pay Day Today was for 'Q'.

One will never learn to head copy if they don't throw away the spacing learned
from the Farnsworth method and learn the sound (rhythm) of real Morse Code.
Copying in the head is when rag chewing really becomes quite satisfying.

Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq

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RE: [Elecraft] Farnsworth Method

2008-03-25 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Ha, ha! Excellent point Tom. 

I never learned to hear words. I ran my speed up to 35 WPM, copying on a
mechanical typewriter, and decided it wasn't fun going any faster. To this
day, copying in my head while puttering around the shack, I still copy
letters, not words, so that's why I didn't add think about the third step. 

And, I submit, hearing words is a relatively recent phenomena for most
operators since, until recently, copying CW meant accurately copying each
character onto paper was needed for message handling. The characters might
be plain text, numbers or code groups.

I made the transition from paper or mill copy as you describe: by not
copying every letter but only the key stuff. Pretty soon I wasn't writing
anything at all and just listening. 

But it's still letter-by-letter for me. 

Ron AC7AC



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From: Tom McCulloch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 5:24 PM
To: Ron D'Eau Claire; Elecraft e-mail list
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Farnsworth Method


Hi Ron,
 I absolutely agree with your comments and observations.  If I might 
respectfully add a third step might be to hear words.  I think once we can

copy a qso in heads we are well on our way to increasing our copy speed.

A beginner would do well not to right down every letter.  Common things like

RST and QTH are a good place to start and then move on from there.

Nice thread, tnx
Tom

WB2QDG

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[Elecraft] Reseting a K2

2008-03-25 Thread DW Holtman

Hello,

A few weeks ago, someone posted a procedure for reseting a K2. It was a 
sequence something like holding the 4,5 and 6 buttons while powering up.


What is the sequence? Does it reset everything, filters, sidetone etc to 
it's factory settings? I could not find it in the manual or in the archives.


Thank you in advance for your help.

Best,
DW Holtman
WB7SSN

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