Re: [Elecraft] K2 KAT100 and BL2 questions

2008-06-03 Thread Peter Connors, F5VNB

Brian

Try a current choke 'balun' instead of the BL2.
As a temporary antenna I have 25m of twin speaker wire run out from the 
shack under the roof tiles - that's about 7m - and then the remaining 
18m split as a doublet. It hangs at an average height of 5m from a 
couple of trees. The 'feeder' end connects through a current choke on a 
short piece of RG58 to the KAT3 in my K3. The KAT100 has the same 
matching range as the KAT3 and I assume the LC values are the similar.
I have no idea what the loads are but the tuner finds a match on all 
bands 10-80m - but not 160m where the radiation resistance is tiny and 
the common mode choke good enough to render the band effectively dead 
unless I connect just the coax inner.


Pete Connors, F5VNB

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[Elecraft] Fed-UP with Waffle

2008-06-03 Thread Larry Dodson
I have subscribed to the reflector for a several years and now find it
has become a WAFFLE ( re: UI rant dramatised) or a K3 whinge!  Please
someone sort this worthwihile source of information out.

Larry (G0IKE)
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Re: [Elecraft] Using the V6.2 lite Softrock Rx as a panadaptor with Elecraft K3

2008-06-03 Thread David Cutter
Another SDR is advertised by Elektor 


http://www.elektor.com/

GBP72 for the assembled and tested pcb.

David
G3UNA  


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 KAT100 and BL2 questions

2008-06-03 Thread David Woolley (E.L)

Brian Lloyd wrote:

current node (odd multiple of a 1/4 wave)? Yes, I know that the ability 
to achieve a conjugate match depends on the capacitance and inductance 
range of the tuner. Also this affects the range of the real component 
(resistance) that can be matched and what frequency you are trying to 
match it on.


The ablity to match the real component depends on the imaginary 
component.  For a high impedance match, I believe you want the C at the 
antenna side.  If you convert 50 ohms in series with the extreme 
inductance values (maximum, I think) to the equivalent parallel 
combination, at the frequency, you will get the maximum possible real 
part transformation.  This might not be achievable for a particular 
frequency and antenna reactive component, because of limits in the range 
of the C value, it which case you may need to iterate to get an L value 
compatible with the limiting C value.


At the extreme limits, the SWR steps will be rather high, so you might 
want to consider doing the calculation with an L value that is beyond 
the range on the grounds that the resistance match will be no worse than 
that halfway between the limit value and the next possible value.




2. Does the BL2 have a problem when looking at a really high impedance, 
i.e. when center feeding a full-wave doublet? And yes, I am aware that I 
really wouldn't want to feed the balun with coax from the tuner but 
rather should put the balun as close to the tuner as possible and then 
run a low-loss balanced line from the balun to the doublet and that the 
feedline will act as a transformer to change the impedance (resistance 
AND reactance) as seen by the balun and, therefore, the tuner.


All current baluns don't like high common mode impedances.  In 4:1 mode, 
they also don't like high differential mode impedances.  In both cases, 
this is because the leakage inductance reactance is not significantly 
higher than that from the relevant feedpoint impedance.  The best place 
for a current balun is before the ATU. (A high common mode impedance 
with a low differential one is probably not a problem, because most of 
the power will go into the differential one; the balun won't help much 
but you probably didn't need one.)


I guess the real question is whether I want to get a KAT100 and a BL2 or 
just stick with my SGC-231. The nice thing about the KAT100 is that it 


The SGC will also have frequency and reactance based variations in its 
resistance matching range.  It's balun may well not like high impedances.


doesn't draw power unless it is tuning. My SGC-231 draws power all the 


The KAT2 uses latching relays; the KAT100 uses continuously powered ones.

time to hold in the relays. That sucks up more battery. Also it is 
physically bigger. Looking at the schematics for both I can see that the 
SGC-231 has a greater range of C and L than the KAT100 does but maybe 
the KAT100 is enough, especially when ganged up with the BL2 to provide 
a 4:1 impedance ration to start with. I know the theory but was looking 


That implies operating the balun well away from its design impedance. 
Particularly on lower bands, the shunt impedance will be too low.


for a quick answer from the field of people here who have more 
experience with this than I do.




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Re: [Elecraft] Fed-UP with Waffle

2008-06-03 Thread Are LB3SA

I find a lot of good information here.

Suggestion for usage: Look at and read the information you find useful for
you and then ignore the rest. I.e. if you want to read about KX1, ignore
everything with K3 or [K3] or K2 etc in the subject. Works great for me! ;)

I wasn't actually interested in your message when I cliked on it but was
curious as to what waffles had to do with Elecraft and ham radio. As it
turns out - nothing. So I agree with you Larry; here it was right in front
of me: useless material that has nothing to do here.

Are - LB3SA


Larry Dodson-2 wrote:
 
 I have subscribed to the reflector for a several years and now find it
 has become a WAFFLE ( re: UI rant dramatised) or a K3 whinge!  Please
 someone sort this worthwihile source of information out.
 
 Larry (G0IKE)
 

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 and Icom PW-1

2008-06-03 Thread Dick Dievendorff
As I think about this I'm not sure that this will work for the PW-1.
Because the PW-1 handles the WARC bands, I'm going to guess that it requires
a CI-V line for band information rather than the band level output.

Joe, do you know for sure?

The way I sync my IC-7800 with a PW-1 makes it clear to me that it's a
CI-V path, not a band voltage.  

Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:33 PM
To: 'Jerry Flanders'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 and Icom PW-1


 IIRC, this method only works for the major bands. ICOM did not 
 provide for the others.

Actually, my design uses a resistive divider network - with standard 
2% resistors - that takes +12V (regulated for reliability) and provides 
the proper voltage for all bands 160 - 6 M based on which tap is 
grounded.  It is a bit different than the Top Ten approach which 
uses individual trimmers to set the output voltage for each band 
and source drivers that have been discontinued.  Note - Icom uses 
the same voltage for 17/15 and 12/10 so it requires 8 outputs to 
cover 160, 80, 40, 30, 20, 15/17, 12/10, and 6m.  The decoder does 
not directly decode 6 meters (BCD 10) but the circuit can be 
configured to select 6 as a none of the above case (BCD 0) or 
a dedicated 6 M circuit could be added to the basic decoder.   

I have been asked off-line if I would be willing to offer and 
interface - either complete or as a mini-kit.  I have no interest 
in building a complete product by hand and the cost of a small 
run in Europe is currently prohibitive.  However, I'll ask here 
one time only ... how much interest would there be in a kit?  
Should a kit include a case or are users likely to incorporate 
it in  another piece of equipment?  

Responses direct only ...   

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Flanders
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:48 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 and Icom PW-1
 
 
 IIRC, this method only works for the major bands. ICOM did not 
 provide for the others.
 
 Jerry W4UK
 
 At 01:42 PM 6/2/2008, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 See also Top Ten Devices application note #3,
 http://www.qth.com/topten/apnote3.htm
 
 Unfortunately the schematic doesn't seem to show up (on my 
 browser), but
 I've seen the schematic before.  It's the BCD to voltage 
 divider network
 (with trimmer pots) that Joe mentions below.
 
 The schematic was once at 
 http://www.qth.com/topten/icomencd.gif but the
 file doesn't seem to be there now.
 
 I'll forward this to Dave Hawes of Top Ten Devices; maybe he 
 can get the
 image file restored.
 
 73 de Dick, K6KR
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe 
 Subich, W4TV
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:30 AM
 To: 'Bob Serwy'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 and Icom PW-1
 
 
 Bob,
 
 There are two approaches that will work to do automatic
 band switching with the K3 and PW-1.  The first is to use
 something like the microHAM Band Decoder (or new Station
 Master which replaces Band Decoder) to convert the Elecraft
 (Kenwood) IF; CAT data to Icom CI-V Transceive broadcasts.
 The second would be to build a BCD to 1 of 10 decoder and
 use that to drive a voltage divider to create the Icom
 compatible Band Select voltage.
 
 The Station Master will be available off the shelf after
 Friedrichshafen.  I can supply notes on the BCD decoder
 approach but have not built/tested any devices.  That is a
 low tech solution and not something microHAM is likely to
 produce and I'm not inclined to get involved in building one
 off units since that is a relatively high cost/low return
 proposition.
 
 73,
 
 ... Joe, W4TV
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Serwy
   Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 11:24 AM
   To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
   Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and Icom PW-1
  
  
   Any one has a K3 and a PW-1 hooked up for automatic band
   switching of the PW-1?  If so, how as it accomplished?
  
   Thanks
  
   Bob Serwy - N9RS
 
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[Elecraft] K3 - Proset K2 Mic Frequency Response

2008-06-03 Thread Geoffrey Downs

Last week I posted a message asking for info about the frequency response of
the mic in the Proset K2. I didn't receive any replies but I've now heard
from Bob Heil that it's 40 Hz - 12 kHz.

Just thought I'd pass it on in case it's useful to anyone.

73 to all

Geoff
G3UCK


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Re: [Elecraft] Using the V6.2 lite Softrock Rx as a panadaptor with Elecraft K3

2008-06-03 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy

Jerry Flanders wrote on Tuesday, June 03, 2008 1:34 AM

I also have one of Jack Smith's Z-1U buffer amplifiers (Clifton 
Laboratories) running between the K3's KXV3 output and the SR40 for 
isolation. (I didn't test to see if the isolation is really needed - maybe 
not, since the LO is offset 24 KHz.)




Jerry, in my opinion it is always wise to use a buffer amplifier which 
exhibits a high degree of reverse isolation, such as Jack's Z-1, when 
picking off a sample of signals from a receiver's signal path. As I am not 
too familiar with the K3 I could be wrong but I believe that the point at 
which you are taking a sample for the SR40 is somewhere between the first 
mixer and the input of the 8.215 MHz IF filter. If that is the case and you 
did *not* use a suitable buffer amp, the SR40's LO 'leaked' signal would 
most likely appear at the input of the filter even though its offset is 24 
kHz. This means that the filter has to deal with more unwanted signal power 
than just the 'routine' stuff coming from the mixer. Even worse is the 
possibilty that the SR40's LO 'leaked' signal might back up into the mixer, 
mix with the LO or its harmonics and/ or other signals in the mixer, and 
produce its own family of  spurious products which would cause additional 
problems for the filter. Some of these products might even lie within the 
filter's passband and be heard, but I have not done the maths to find out if 
that is the case.


As an aside, a crystal filter can itself generate significant IMD products 
if overdriven, which is why it it is essential to measure the IIP3 of a 
crystal filter at various input levels and spacings when designing a 
receiver.


73,
Geoff
GM4ESD 


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RE: [Elecraft] K3 and Icom PW-1

2008-06-03 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Dick, 

 As I think about this I'm not sure that this will work for the PW-1.
 Because the PW-1 handles the WARC bands, I'm going to guess that it 
 requires a CI-V line for band information rather than the band level 
 output.
 
 Joe, do you know for sure?

The PW-1 manual shows the +8.0 V reference and Band Voltage input 
connections on the ACC sockets consistent with the old style (2KL, 
4KL, AT-500) band switching system.   If the connections are present, 
I see no reason they should not be functional but I do not have a 
PW-1 to test with. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
   




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dick 
 Dievendorff
 Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:05 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Jerry Flanders'; 
 elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 and Icom PW-1
 
 
 As I think about this I'm not sure that this will work for the PW-1.
 Because the PW-1 handles the WARC bands, I'm going to guess 
 that it requires
 a CI-V line for band information rather than the band level output.
 
 Joe, do you know for sure?
 
 The way I sync my IC-7800 with a PW-1 makes it clear to me 
 that it's a
 CI-V path, not a band voltage.  
 
 Dick, K6KR
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe 
 Subich, W4TV
 Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:33 PM
 To: 'Jerry Flanders'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 and Icom PW-1
 
 
  IIRC, this method only works for the major bands. ICOM did not 
  provide for the others.
 
 Actually, my design uses a resistive divider network - with standard 
 2% resistors - that takes +12V (regulated for reliability) 
 and provides 
 the proper voltage for all bands 160 - 6 M based on which tap is 
 grounded.  It is a bit different than the Top Ten approach which 
 uses individual trimmers to set the output voltage for each band 
 and source drivers that have been discontinued.  Note - Icom uses 
 the same voltage for 17/15 and 12/10 so it requires 8 outputs to 
 cover 160, 80, 40, 30, 20, 15/17, 12/10, and 6m.  The decoder does 
 not directly decode 6 meters (BCD 10) but the circuit can be 
 configured to select 6 as a none of the above case (BCD 0) or 
 a dedicated 6 M circuit could be added to the basic decoder.   
 
 I have been asked off-line if I would be willing to offer and 
 interface - either complete or as a mini-kit.  I have no interest 
 in building a complete product by hand and the cost of a small 
 run in Europe is currently prohibitive.  However, I'll ask here 
 one time only ... how much interest would there be in a kit?  
 Should a kit include a case or are users likely to incorporate 
 it in  another piece of equipment?  
 
 Responses direct only ...   
 
 73, 
 
... Joe, W4TV 
  
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Jerry Flanders
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:48 PM
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 and Icom PW-1
  
  
  IIRC, this method only works for the major bands. ICOM did not 
  provide for the others.
  
  Jerry W4UK
  
  At 01:42 PM 6/2/2008, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
  See also Top Ten Devices application note #3,
  http://www.qth.com/topten/apnote3.htm
  
  Unfortunately the schematic doesn't seem to show up (on my 
  browser), but
  I've seen the schematic before.  It's the BCD to voltage 
  divider network
  (with trimmer pots) that Joe mentions below.
  
  The schematic was once at 
  http://www.qth.com/topten/icomencd.gif but the
  file doesn't seem to be there now.
  
  I'll forward this to Dave Hawes of Top Ten Devices; maybe he 
  can get the
  image file restored.
  
  73 de Dick, K6KR
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe 
  Subich, W4TV
  Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 9:30 AM
  To: 'Bob Serwy'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 and Icom PW-1
  
  
  Bob,
  
  There are two approaches that will work to do automatic
  band switching with the K3 and PW-1.  The first is to use
  something like the microHAM Band Decoder (or new Station
  Master which replaces Band Decoder) to convert the Elecraft
  (Kenwood) IF; CAT data to Icom CI-V Transceive broadcasts.
  The second would be to build a BCD to 1 of 10 decoder and
  use that to drive a voltage divider to create the Icom
  compatible Band Select voltage.
  
  The Station Master will be available off the shelf after
  Friedrichshafen.  I can supply notes on the BCD decoder
  approach but have not built/tested any devices.  That is a
  low tech solution and not something microHAM is likely to
  produce and I'm not inclined to get involved in building one
  off units since that is a relatively high cost/low return
  proposition.
  
  73,
  
  ... Joe, W4TV
  
  
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Serwy
Sent: 

[Elecraft] UI rant dramatized 2 K3

2008-06-03 Thread Julius Fazekas
He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic
irony, metaphor, bathos, puns, parody, litotes and...
satire. He was vicious. LUIGI VERCOTTI (Michael
Palin), The Piranha Brothers Monty Python's Flying
Circus TV Show - Episode 14

Of course, for humor to be effective, one must have a
common reference and even then, some don't get it.

73,
Julius

Julius Fazekas
N2WN

Tennessee Contest Group
TnQP http://www.tnqp.org/

Elecraft K2/100 #3311
Elecraft K2/100 #4455
Elecraft K3/100 #366
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 KAT100 and BL2 questions

2008-06-03 Thread Don Wilhelm

Pete, Brian and all,

The BL2 *is* a current choke 'balun' - both in the 4:1 and the 1:1 
configuration.


73,
Don W3FPR

Peter Connors, F5VNB wrote:

Brian

Try a current choke 'balun' instead of the BL2.
As a temporary antenna I have 25m of twin speaker wire run out from 
the shack under the roof tiles - that's about 7m - and then the 
remaining 18m split as a doublet. It hangs at an average height of 5m 
from a couple of trees. The 'feeder' end connects through a current 
choke on a short piece of RG58 to the KAT3 in my K3. The KAT100 has 
the same matching range as the KAT3 and I assume the LC values are the 
similar.



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[Elecraft] K1 FS $425. shipped

2008-06-03 Thread Curron HILL

K1 FS $425. shipped
40, 30, 20, 15
2 band board, 80, 20
Auto antenna tuner
Elecraft stand
All ready to use works FB

backlight and NB kits not built yet but included with the radio
$425 all shipped to you in the 48 states.


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[Elecraft] K3 SDR note by G3UNA

2008-06-03 Thread Art

David
Which article/Kit/Module did you mean? I found SDR from March 2007 but 
not a newer article.


73 Art
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Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 07:04:54 +0100
From: David Cutter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Using the V6.2 lite Softrock Rx as a
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Another SDR is advertised by Elektor

http://www.elektor.com/

GBP72 for the assembled and tested pcb.

David
G3UNA
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 S/N 740 alive and well

2008-06-03 Thread Bruce McLaughlin
I use LOG EQF with no problems with my K-3.  I think you will love the rig.

Bruce-W8FU

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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 S/N 740 alive and well

An uneventful and slow/methodical build of S/N 740 reached a glorious
and successful conclusion this
evening with the install of the power amp. I have not yet put it on
the air, but the CW tone monitored on the other
rig is sweet and clean. QSK turnaround (full-QSK) seems at least as
good as the OmniVI.

Now to make up the appropriate interface cables for key/keyer and find
cables for computer interface. I expect it
will talk to TRLog and LOG-EQF without difficulty.

-- 
73 Allan K7GT
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[Elecraft] K3 #977

2008-06-03 Thread Forrest Hudspeth
Ordered: 12/19
Katiegram: 5/12
Shipped: 5/23
Received: 5/28
Assembly completed: 6/1

The rig is worth waiting for.  The construction is straight-forward,
although I recommend reading all of the posts of people gone before to make
it a smooth experience.  Make sure you check out the K3 Wiki and read and
post all of the manual changes before you start.

Some of the tips I found most worthwhile and other observations:

1.  Cut the materials list items into small strips and use them to label the
parts tray.  It prevents you from grabbing a 3/16 screw when it was
supposed to be a 1/4.
2.  Allow a lot of room to sort through your packaged items before
assembly.  They are packaged in quite a large assortment of anti-static bags
and it's easy to lose track of where you placed one.
3.  It is possible to have a defective item, just check it carefully before
you contact Elecraft.  I did receive a top stiffening bar that was drilled
incorrectly.  A replacement is on the way and the old one works fine in the
meantime.
4.  I found extra parts in quite a few bags, so you will most likely have
everything you need, even if one bag is short.  You will also receive a
dedicated bag of extra parts of most used items.  Very thoughtful.
5.  I did not find the painted surfaces particularly susceptible to
scratching while assembling.  Others had complained about scratching the
screw holes while assembling and disassembling but I moved slow and with
minimum force and didn't have a problem.
6.  The front panel went together much easier than others had stated.  Maybe
a production change.  A board I did find very tight - the KPA3IO board (part
of the 100W option).  It requires a bit of careful pressure to seat
properly.
7.  Another delicate area is the LCD clear plastic cover.  It uses 2-56
screws in the corners.  I found the metal front panel holes rather tight,
almost as if you were supposed to use the 2-56 screws as hole taps.  They
didn't want to start properly and required some finessing to get them
started.  It's almost as if they were painted after they were tapped, with
the paint filling in the holes.
8.  One last caveat, if you find something not working, search the forum
archives.  Someone has already stepped in that hole and the answer is
probably there.  It's most likely a step skipped or a config:item that you
haven't enabled or set properly.

To give you an idea of how good it plays, my first contact was on 20M CW
using a 25 foot piece of wire, no ground counterpoise and 50W.  Got a 5-9+
from RI.  Next QSO was SSB to SC - 5-9 with QSB.

I look forward to the back-ordered items to complete the best rig I have
ever owned.

73, Forrest WA3FAE
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - signal loss in band-pass filter

2008-06-03 Thread Are LB3SA

Thanks to both for info and assistance. You were right Don about the
'weirdness' when injecting signals by C7.

It turns out that the sensitivity issue was caused by a tiny solder bridge
on the SMD MC1350 (IF amp) which I found by injecting a signal @ IF freq.
before and after the IF Amp.

The receiver is now working very nice with an IMD of -136db. The filter/BFO
set-up went without a hitch and RX sounds like a million bucks with
absolutely no signs of ringing with tight filtering.

Are - LB3SA

KX1# 1864
K2# 6498
K3: Delivery late July


Don Wilhelm wrote:
 
 Are,
 
 The 'wierd' symptoms you report could be normal depending on the output 
 characteristics of your signal generator.  The capacitors C7 and C8 in 
 the 40 meter bandpass form a voltage divider that is intended to match 
 the high impedance of the filter parallel tuned circuits down to a lower 
 impedance level. If a signal is arbitrary injected at the top end of C7, 
 there can (and likely will) be more voltage developed across the filter 
 than if the same signal voltage is injected at the junction of C7 and C8 
 (a similar argument applies to the other bands).  Put RFC7 and W6 back 
 in place to give the proper termination for the filter.
 
 A valid comparison is to compare the signal at the junction of C7 and C8 
 with the signal at the junction of C4 and C5.  That would give an 
 indication of the loss through the bandpass filter.  That comparison is 
 more easily done in transmit than receive (the filter is bi-lateral).  
 Compare the RF voltage at the junction of D6 and D7 with the RF voltage 
 at W6 using a transmit power level of 1 to 2 watts.
 
 If the bandpass filter is not indicating a substantial loss, then you 
 may have some other problem in the receive path.
 
 If your bandpass filter does show a substantial loss, try re-peaking it 
 first, and if that does not produce adequate results, then look for an 
 impedance mismatch at the filter terminations - check R36 and R5 first 
 for proper values and good soldering.
 
 There are many other places other than the bandpass filter that can 
 cause weak receive.  If your K2 develops full output power on all bands, 
 then the bandpass filter is likely not the problem area.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 KAT100 and BL2 questions

2008-06-03 Thread Peter Connors, F5VNB

Don

I agree that the BL2 is a true current balun using a balanced design 
that chokes common mode currents while also transforming impedances to 
ease a conjugate match - albeit one of the ratios is 1:1 - but my 
coax-through-ferrite-beads unbalanced common mode choke *only* does what 
it says on the tin without any impedance transformation, hence my quotes 
around 'balun'.
Without it, the 1.8MHz common mode noise pickup from my abject antenna 
siting is about S5/6 but with it the noise is S1/2. I leave it to the 
atu to transform complex impedance.


73, Pete F5VNB

Don Wilhelm wrote:

Pete, Brian and all,

The BL2 *is* a current choke 'balun' - both in the 4:1 and the 1:1 
configuration.


73,
Don W3FPR




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Proset K2 Mic Frequency Response

2008-06-03 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 12:53:44 +0100, Geoffrey Downs wrote:

Last week I posted a message asking for info about the frequency response of
the mic in the Proset K2. I didn't receive any replies but I've now heard
from Bob Heil that it's 40 Hz - 12 kHz.

Just thought I'd pass it on in case it's useful to anyone.

It is NOT. ALL ham mics (as well as many pro mics) meet that VERY broad 
description -- it tells us nothing!  To be meaningful, there's must be a +/- 
dB tolerance, AND you need to see a graph of the frequency response. 

To understand ham mics and their frequency response, study pages 41-45 in

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/HamInterfacing.pdf

Also, study Appendix 6 of 

http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

73,

Jim Brown K9YC




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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - signal loss in band-pass filter

2008-06-03 Thread TF3KX

Just out of curiosity...

Where was that solder bridge on the MC1350?  Was it already on the SMD
assembly when you received it, or was it something you caused by your
soldering?

The reason I ask is that I had a problem with my SMD MC1350, never found out
what caused it, and just replaced it.  If there is something there to watch
out for, it may help others...

73 - Kristinn, TF3KX


Are LB3SA wrote:
 
 Thanks to both for info and assistance. You were right Don about the
 'weirdness' when injecting signals by C7.
 
 It turns out that the sensitivity issue was caused by a tiny solder bridge
 on the SMD MC1350 (IF amp) which I found by injecting a signal @ IF freq.
 before and after the IF Amp.
 
 The receiver is now working very nice with an IMD of -136db. The
 filter/BFO set-up went without a hitch and RX sounds like a million bucks
 with absolutely no signs of ringing with tight filtering.
 
 Are - LB3SA
 
 KX1# 1864
 K2# 6498
 K3: Delivery late July
 
 
 Don Wilhelm wrote:
 
 Are,
 
 The 'wierd' symptoms you report could be normal depending on the output 
 characteristics of your signal generator.  The capacitors C7 and C8 in 
 the 40 meter bandpass form a voltage divider that is intended to match 
 the high impedance of the filter parallel tuned circuits down to a lower 
 impedance level. If a signal is arbitrary injected at the top end of C7, 
 there can (and likely will) be more voltage developed across the filter 
 than if the same signal voltage is injected at the junction of C7 and C8 
 (a similar argument applies to the other bands).  Put RFC7 and W6 back 
 in place to give the proper termination for the filter.
 
 A valid comparison is to compare the signal at the junction of C7 and C8 
 with the signal at the junction of C4 and C5.  That would give an 
 indication of the loss through the bandpass filter.  That comparison is 
 more easily done in transmit than receive (the filter is bi-lateral).  
 Compare the RF voltage at the junction of D6 and D7 with the RF voltage 
 at W6 using a transmit power level of 1 to 2 watts.
 
 If the bandpass filter is not indicating a substantial loss, then you 
 may have some other problem in the receive path.
 
 If your bandpass filter does show a substantial loss, try re-peaking it 
 first, and if that does not produce adequate results, then look for an 
 impedance mismatch at the filter terminations - check R36 and R5 first 
 for proper values and good soldering.
 
 There are many other places other than the bandpass filter that can 
 cause weak receive.  If your K2 develops full output power on all bands, 
 then the bandpass filter is likely not the problem area.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - signal loss in band-pass filter

2008-06-03 Thread Are LB3SA

It was actually one of your earlier posts (thanks!) that prompted me to
inject the IF signal before and after the IF Amp. At that point I had pulled
out lot of hair and lost sleep over a low sensitivity K2.

As to when the solder bridge got there... I'm not 100% certain that a bridge
was the problem. But after I realized that the IF Amp was not amplifying I
went over the solder points around the chip (I actually removed the chip and
installed it again). The radio then started to work. It was actually a bit
of a surprise since I never saw the problem - especially since I looked very
closely at all the points through an amplifying glass many times before AND
since all the voltages at MC1350 measured at specs while I had the problem.
It was just the IF signal that wasn't amplifying leading me to at first
think that the chip itself was defect.

I only assume it was a solder bridge. And if that's the case it was probably
made by me.

Are - LB3SA



TF3KX wrote:
 
 Just out of curiosity...
 
 Where was that solder bridge on the MC1350?  Was it already on the SMD
 assembly when you received it, or was it something you caused by your
 soldering?
 
 The reason I ask is that I had a problem with my SMD MC1350, never found
 out what caused it, and just replaced it.  If there is something there to
 watch out for, it may help others...
 
 73 - Kristinn, TF3KX
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - signal loss in band-pass filter

2008-06-03 Thread Kurt Pawlikowski

Are, Et Al,

   JAT: It could be that the act of removing/reseating the MC1350 fixed 
the problem. Sometimes sockets don't!


   Regards,

   kurtt

   Kurt Pawlikowski, AKA WB9FMC
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Are LB3SA wrote:

It was actually one of your earlier posts (thanks!) that prompted me to
inject the IF signal before and after the IF Amp. At that point I had pulled
out lot of hair and lost sleep over a low sensitivity K2.

As to when the solder bridge got there... I'm not 100% certain that a bridge
was the problem. But after I realized that the IF Amp was not amplifying I
went over the solder points around the chip (I actually removed the chip and
installed it again). The radio then started to work. It was actually a bit
of a surprise since I never saw the problem - especially since I looked very
closely at all the points through an amplifying glass many times before AND
since all the voltages at MC1350 measured at specs while I had the problem.
It was just the IF signal that wasn't amplifying leading me to at first
think that the chip itself was defect.

I only assume it was a solder bridge. And if that's the case it was probably
made by me.

Are - LB3SA



TF3KX wrote:
  

Just out of curiosity...

Where was that solder bridge on the MC1350?  Was it already on the SMD
assembly when you received it, or was it something you caused by your
soldering?

The reason I ask is that I had a problem with my SMD MC1350, never found
out what caused it, and just replaced it.  If there is something there to
watch out for, it may help others...

73 - Kristinn, TF3KX




  

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[Elecraft] Updated Shipping Status on Website

2008-06-03 Thread Tad Williamson
The shipping status has been updated as of June 3, 2008
nbsp;
It now reads:
nbsp;
Between now June 14thnbsp; we should be shipping K3 orders received through 
January 15th.nbsp; 

WhooHoo!


What a long, strange trip it's been
nbsp;
The Grateful Dead
nbsp;
Truckin'
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - signal loss in band-pass filter

2008-06-03 Thread TF3KX

Interesting.

In my case I never resolved if the MC1350 actually was bad.  I soldered the
entire assembly out of the circuit, but managed to find an original full
size chip at a local store, put it in and it simply worked.  So, the
problem - whatever it really was - might have been the same as yours, and
the SMD assembly might have worked if I had put it back into the rig the
second time.

At any rate, good that you are on track, and hope others may learn from
this.  My K2 (#6425) is working perfectly, aside from the fact that my 8V is
low (about 7,56V), and as a result the S-meter can not be calibrated
properly.  I will ask Elecraft to send me a new regulator.

73 and good luck!  - Kristinn, TF3KX


Are LB3SA wrote:
 
 It was actually one of your earlier posts (thanks!) that prompted me to
 inject the IF signal before and after the IF Amp. At that point I had
 pulled out lot of hair and lost sleep over a low sensitivity K2.
 
 As to when the solder bridge got there... I'm not 100% certain that a
 bridge was the problem. But after I realized that the IF Amp was not
 amplifying I went over the solder points around the chip (I actually
 removed the chip and installed it again). The radio then started to work.
 It was actually a bit of a surprise since I never saw the problem -
 especially since I looked very closely at all the points through an
 amplifying glass many times before AND since all the voltages at MC1350
 measured at specs while I had the problem. It was just the IF signal that
 wasn't amplifying leading me to at first think that the chip itself was
 defect.
 
 I only assume it was a solder bridge. And if that's the case it was
 probably made by me.
 
 Are - LB3SA
 
 
 
 TF3KX wrote:
 
 Just out of curiosity...
 
 Where was that solder bridge on the MC1350?  Was it already on the SMD
 assembly when you received it, or was it something you caused by your
 soldering?
 
 The reason I ask is that I had a problem with my SMD MC1350, never found
 out what caused it, and just replaced it.  If there is something there to
 watch out for, it may help others...
 
 73 - Kristinn, TF3KX
 
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - signal loss in band-pass filter

2008-06-03 Thread Are LB3SA

My 8 volt regulator also outputs exactly 7.56V. I replaced it with one I
bought here in Norway last week. It's also quite low at 7.62 volt. Specs
guarantee it to be over 7.5V if I remember correctly so I guess we can't
complain too much.

But if you have a hard time getting the ALC voltage up to 3.8 volt according
to the manual you can solder a 10K resistor across RP6 pins 3-4 on the
control board (Gary from Elecraft suggested this for me). This works great
and I now see 3.8V but it doesn't really make much of an audible difference.

Are - LB3SA



TF3KX wrote:
 
 In my case I never resolved if the MC1350 actually was bad.  I soldered
 the entire assembly out of the circuit, but managed to find an original
 full size chip at a local store, put it in and it simply worked.  So,
 the problem - whatever it really was - might have been the same as yours,
 and the SMD assembly might have worked if I had put it back into the rig
 the second time.
 
 At any rate, good that you are on track, and hope others may learn from
 this.  My K2 (#6425) is working perfectly, aside from the fact that my 8V
 is low (about 7,56V), and as a result the S-meter can not be calibrated
 properly.  I will ask Elecraft to send me a new regulator.
 

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[Elecraft] K3 - 30m problem solved

2008-06-03 Thread Fred Jensen
My K3 quit transmitting on 30m a week ago.  All other bands were OK. 
After using up a lot of Gary's time, Wayne called me and his first 
question was, Which antenna is selected?


I don't know how it happened, but 30m had gotten set to ANT2.  One tap 
on ANT and I'm back alive on 10.1 MHz.  Just like my K2, the K3 antenna 
selection is saved on a per band/per memory basis, something I should 
have known since I've had my K2/KAT100 for several years now.


The moral for me is, Before leaping to email [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
study **ALL** the icons and legends on the LCD.  Quite a few are fairly 
small.


Chagrined, I remain

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party  4-5 Oct 08
- www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: overwriting memories? - Try this!

2008-06-03 Thread KM5Q
Like Tony, I also found it helpful to color my VM button, but I did  
it in a different way. It looks good, and I and find it helpful.


I stained it red with permanent ink. I took a bit of cloth and wet it  
with alcohol. Onto that I applied some red ink with a Sharpie pen,  
then rubbed it onto the button. It still shows the label on the button  
very clearly - just makes a pink wash. I liked it, so I then applied  
red around the sides of the button where it shows deeper red. I  
consider it permanent, but it's my radio and I like it.


Windy KM5Q


Tony Fegan VE3QF
Fri, 30 May 2008 20:18:07 -0700

I went a step further and put a piece of white 1/4 inch masking tape  
over the VM key. Not pretty but it works for me. It is just enough to  
catch your eye and of course when you really need it, it can still be  
depressed. I do have an advantage in that with poor eyesight it is  
not easy to read and mix up the keys! My band memories are set similar  
to yours Doug. I have my most usedfrequency in VFO-A and my second  
most used frequency in VFO-B. I operate mainly SSB but monitor the  
other modes. I have not used the band up/down for 3 months.

73
   Tony Fegan VE3QF
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[Elecraft] K3 - 30m problem solved

2008-06-03 Thread Rick Dettinger
If this had been an offshore rig, you would have had to send it to a  
factory authorized repair facility for warranty work.  Since there was  
no fault, you would have had to pay a service charge and shipping both  
ways.  Another advantage of buying an Elecraft rig.


73
Rick Dettinger   K7MW
===
My K3 quit transmitting on 30m a week ago.  All other bands were OK.  
After using up a lot of Gary's time, Wayne called me and his first  
question was, Which antenna is selected?


I don't know how it happened, but 30m had gotten set to ANT2.  One tap  
on ANT and I'm back alive on 10.1 MHz.  Just like my K2, the K3  
antenna selection is saved on a per band/per memory basis, something I  
should have known since I've had my K2/KAT100 for several years now.


The moral for me is, Before leaping to email [EMAIL PROTECTED],  
study **ALL** the icons and legends on the LCD.  Quite a few are  
fairly small.


Chagrined, I remain

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party  4-5 Oct 08
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[Elecraft] K3 useful tip

2008-06-03 Thread George
Best non slip I have found is at Wal Mart in the RV section.  Comes in a roll.  
It beats common shelf liner which I tried once.  Great to put under CW paddles 
also.

N4ym
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[Elecraft] K3 - 30m problem solved

2008-06-03 Thread Don Rasmussen
A large part of the reason I bought K3 was because it
was the SDR I could operate with confidence. That
means it's instant on and whenever there is an
ut-oh, I think to myself what did I do wrong?
first, rather than going straight to that sinking
feeling. ;-) 

At this QTH, that's a pretty big deal.

Chagrined beats the alternative. 


[Elecraft] K3 - 30m problem solved
Fred Jensen k6dgw at foothill.net 
Tue Jun 3 15:01:50 EDT 2008 

My K3 quit transmitting on 30m a week ago.  All other
bands were OK. 

After using up a lot of Gary's time, Wayne called me
and his first question was, Which antenna is
selected?

I don't know how it happened, but 30m had gotten set
to ANT2.  One tap on ANT and I'm back alive on 10.1
MHz.  Just like my K2, the K3 antenna selection is
saved on a per band/per memory basis, something I
should have known since I've had my K2/KAT100 for
several years now.

The moral for me is, Before leaping to email support
at elecraft.com, study **ALL** the icons and legends
on the LCD.  Quite a few are fairly small.

Chagrined, I remain

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2008 Cal QSO Party  4-5 Oct 08
- www.cqp.org


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[Elecraft] K2 - signal loss in band-pass filter

2008-06-03 Thread David Lankshear
From postings on the reflector, it would seem that more than a few of K2 8v 
regulators are on the low side, including mine.

I've just ordered a couple from a local supplier to see if they are any better, 
but if they are not, I will jack up the ground lead of the 8v regulator by 
connecting a diode in series with it - i.e. interposed between the regulator's 
ground lead and the ground it was connected to.  A silicon diode like a 4148 
(or 4001 to 4007) will effect about a 0v6 increase in output voltage and a 
schottky or germanium diode will give about 0v2 to 0v3 increase.

Of course, this jacking up compromises the regulator's inbuilt short circuit 
protection but in a stable environment like the K2 it can either be accepted 
that it is unlikely to ever be called to work into a short circuit, or a 
reverse connected diode can be introduced between output and ground as 
protection. 

73   DaveL  G3TJP
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[Elecraft] K3 SN#000995 delivered today

2008-06-03 Thread Bob W9RFS

I ordered my K3/100 kit on Dec. 24TH, 2007.
I received the FM, AM and 2.8 filters.
Backordered items: DVR, 2ND RX, 400Hz 8 pole.
995 is a real cool number and I'm a happy guy!
Bob W9RFS
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Re: [Elecraft] My KX-1 do crazy things...

2008-06-03 Thread SV1COX

Many thanks to all

i wait till i install the 30m board to make some new tests and answer here.

yes deffinitely was due improper antenna. Part RF feedback in KX1 and part
my body as ground.

KX1 still rocks here :) now on 30m too :)

many thanks again, have fun

73, Panos, SV1COX


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Re: [Elecraft] Updated Shipping Status on Website

2008-06-03 Thread nz0t

It still says that new orders are targeted for 4 months.  I ordered my K3 kit
on April 11th and I wonder if the 4 months will hold meaning it arrives in
August or will it be closer to the 6 months of the rigs now arriving meaning
October?  No complaints but just curious.

And a tad bit anxious ;)  And excited.  Like an 8 year old.  On Christmas
Eve.

Bill NZ0T

Tad Williamson wrote:
 
 The shipping status has been updated as of June 3, 2008
 nbsp;
 It now reads:
 nbsp;
 Between now June 14thnbsp; we should be shipping K3 orders received
 through January 15th.nbsp; 
 
 WhooHoo!
 
 
 What a long, strange trip it's been
 nbsp;
 The Grateful Dead
 nbsp;
 Truckin'
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SN#000995 delivered today

2008-06-03 Thread Richard S. Lindzen
I had never thought about the quality of a serial number, but I 
suppose having serial number 911 should give me pause.


Dick, KA1SA

At 05:07 PM 6/3/2008, Bob W9RFS wrote:


I ordered my K3/100 kit on Dec. 24TH, 2007.
I received the FM, AM and 2.8 filters.
Backordered items: DVR, 2ND RX, 400Hz 8 pole.
995 is a real cool number and I'm a happy guy!
Bob W9RFS
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[Elecraft] Updated Shipping Status on Website

2008-06-03 Thread Don Rasmussen
 or will it be closer to the 6 months?

From the wiki:

http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/K3_Serial_Numbers

Prior to November 2007 - 030 units released including
betas. 
Nov 2007 - 085 units released, average wait 6 months. 
Dec 2007 - 065 units released, average wait 7 months. 
Jan 2008 - 125 units released, average wait 8 months. 
Feb 2008 - 175 units released, average wait 8 months. 
Mar 2008 - 100 units released, average wait 7 months. 
Apr 2008 - 175 units released, average wait 6 months. 
May 2008 - 175 units released, average wait 5 months. 

Note: I have noticed a minor delay in shipping this
month, so anticipate
that the wait may not drop to 4 months for June, but
then again my 
magic marble's gone foggy like this before. ;-)

I'd guess by Labor Day. 

[Elecraft] Updated Shipping Status on Website
nz0t NZ0T at cox.net 
Tue Jun 3 18:14:31 EDT 2008 


It still says that new orders are targeted for 4
months.  I ordered my K3 kit
on April 11th and I wonder if the 4 months will hold
meaning it arrives in
August or will it be closer to the 6 months of the
rigs now arriving meaning
October?  No complaints but just curious.

And a tad bit anxious ;)  And excited.  Like an 8 year
old.  On Christmas
Eve.

Bill NZ0T


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[Elecraft] [K3] Loss of Gain below 550Hz filter width - firmware problem?

2008-06-03 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
You may remember I have a problem with my K3 whereby dropping the  
filter width below 550Hz means I loose almost all AF gain.


I have just had a little time to look into it.
I was running the latest Beta software (1.96) which I see is now  
production.
I've now loaded the latest production code, but the problem is still  
there.


On a whim, I loaded 1.58 which I had hanging around from previous  
tests and everything works just great - right the way down to 50Hz  
filter width.


I then tried standard production f/w v 1.96 again and the problem was  
gone, but that was before it had loaded the DSP code (I didn't realise  
it hadn't competed the load) and once the DSP loaded, the problem is  
back.

I then tried v1.88 and the problem is still there.
I worked backwards through versions I have (I may not have them all)  
until I got to version 1.66 which still had the problem, but 1.58 does  
not. So this looks like a problem with DSP1 code from somewhere after  
v1.48 of DSP onwards.

I have now restored to the latest version.
I noticed the gain on the 1.58 code is considerably higher than on the  
latest code anyway.

The IIr trick doesn't make a difference to this.

I understand other people don't have this problem, so what is it that  
makes my K3 unique?


I have the following filters:
slot 1 - empty awaiting KFL3B-FM; FL1 BW = 0, FL1 FRQ = 0, FL1 GN = 0,  
FL1 ON = NO
slot 2: KFL3A-6K; FL2 BW = 6.00, FL2 FRQ = 0, FL2 GN = 4db, FL2 ON  
= YES
slot 3 - KFL3A-2.8K; FL3 BW = 2.80, FL3 FRQ = 0, FL3 GN = 4db, FL3 ON  
= YES
slot 4 - KFL3A-1.8K; FL4 BW = 1.80, FL4 FRQ = 0, FL4 GN = 4db, FL4 ON  
= YES
slot 5 - KFL3A-400;  FL5 BW = 0.40, FL5 FRQ = 0, FL5 GN = 4db, FL5 ON  
= YES


With the following options:
KAT3, KPA3, KBPF3, KXV3, KTCx03-01

No mods yet.

You'll note this problem occurs below 550Hz, but that I have the 400Hz  
filter installed and it does switch filters at the correct point.


So suggestions anyone?
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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[Elecraft] K3 #993

2008-06-03 Thread Dan AE6G

Ordered Dec 21, received 5/30/2008. Assembled and running 5/31/2008. Ser #993
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Loss of Gain below 550Hz filter width - firmware problem?

2008-06-03 Thread Vic K2VCO

David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
You may remember I have a problem with my K3 whereby dropping the filter 
width below 550Hz means I loose almost all AF gain.

So suggestions anyone?



Does turning off RX EQ help?
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Loss of Gain below 550Hz filter width - firmware problem?

2008-06-03 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
both Rx  Tx EQ have been left flat - but if you mean taping the AFX  
key, it makes no difference.


Just to be sure, there isn't another config option or switch I've  
missed, is there?

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On 4 Jun 2008, at 01:23, Vic K2VCO wrote:


David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
You may remember I have a problem with my K3 whereby dropping the  
filter width below 550Hz means I loose almost all AF gain.

So suggestions anyone?



Does turning off RX EQ help?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SN#000995 delivered today

2008-06-03 Thread Tony Morgan

I wonder who got # 666?  :)

73,
Tony W7GO

Richard S. Lindzen wrote:
I had never thought about the quality of a serial number, but I 
suppose having serial number 911 should give me pause.


Dick, KA1SA

At 05:07 PM 6/3/2008, Bob W9RFS wrote:


I ordered my K3/100 kit on Dec. 24TH, 2007.
I received the FM, AM and 2.8 filters.
Backordered items: DVR, 2ND RX, 400Hz 8 pole.
995 is a real cool number and I'm a happy guy!
Bob W9RFS
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[Elecraft] Re: [K3] Loss of Gain below 550Hz filter width - RESOLVED

2008-06-03 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Looks like this was something I caused many months ago and the data  
table appears to have been wrong (I'm waiting for Lyle to confirm to  
me that’s the right description of the cause).


I removed all the current firmware from the K3 Firmware folder and  
forced the Utility to get it all from the server and then forced it to  
load everything, including the data table. That has fixed it :-)


Once again, Elecraft shows its quality in its responses to its  
customers - even if we do cause them problems now and then :-)

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used  
when we

created them. -Albert Einstein, physicist, Nobel laureate (1879-1955)

On 4 Jun 2008, at 02:23, Lyle Johnson wrote:


Hello David!

I don't have a 500Hz filter and I did say it worked at a very early  
version of f/w. And yes I'm loading all the files.

I'll try disabling various filters tomorrow.


Yes, I just now am getting caught up on the email thread.

Since the roofing filter is not being switched between 500 Hz and  
550 Hz, it is not likely the problem.


At 500 Hz, however, a different IF filter scheme occurs in the DSP.  
Please reload the DSP data table, using the latest from the server.   
If you are computer savvy and know where the current DTBL file is  
located n your computer, please delete it first, so we can be sure  
the correct DTBL file is safely loaded into your K3.  The DTBL  
changed with release 1.49 of the DSP which is approximately the  
version of DSP code you started having trouble with (1.48).


If this doesn't correct the problem, you may need to perform an  
EEINIT.  Wayne may have some suggestions before you do that, however.


73,

Lyle KK7P


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 useful tip

2008-06-03 Thread David Yarnes
Some kinds work great--others not so great.  The kind that looks kind of 
shiny, and has a very regular pattern of holes and little squares (which are 
kind of puffy), doesn't work as well.  It slides around more.  The best 
stuff (and the cheapest I think), has a sort of wavy pattern to it, and 
actually feels a bit thinner.  But it sure grabs better!  I use it for 
paddles, and also for setting things on the console in my vehicle.  It also 
works pretty well if you need to set something on the dashboard.


Dave W7AQK

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Best non slip I have found is at Wal Mart in the RV section.  Comes in a 
roll.  It beats common shelf liner which I tried once.  Great to put under 
CW paddles also.


N4ym
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