Re: [Elecraft] K3 - DSP IF Width Increment

2008-07-09 Thread Ian White GM3SEK

Doug Joyce wrote:


Having ordered a K3 at Dayton, I've been following the recent 
discussion on DSP vs. Roofing Filter for bandpass width determination 
with great interest. In that regard, I have a quick question  - what is 
the width increment available by adjusting the DSP.  Based on some of 
the recent postings it seems like it might be 50 Hz but would someone 
please confirm.




This may be a good moment to repeat the request for width/shift/hi/lo 
increments to scale down automatically with the bandwidth. At SSB 
bandwidths, 50Hz increments feel smooth and continuous, which is exactly 
how they should feel; but at narrow bandwidths a 50Hz change is a big 
jump, and much more tricky to select.


Obviously  this isn't a trivial piece of coding, but it would be good to 
know that IOTL.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List

2008-07-09 Thread David Pratt

In a recent message, Roy Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...
I would like to be able to erase entries from PF1 and PF2 instead of 
having to overwrite these memories.  Please consider putting this on 
the list.


Why, Roy?  Surely if you do not want to use the PF1 and PF2 buttons you 
could just fill them with the firmware versions.  Leaving them blank 
does not serve any useful purpose and I do feel there are other things 
on the list that could be given higher priority.


Please tell us the reason you need PF1 and PF2 to be blank.

73
--
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Leeds, England, UK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List

2008-07-09 Thread Brett Howard
I agree...  But when I asked for the ability to erase memories Wayne
told me he didn't understand why I would want that ability when I could
just over write the memory location with something else.  But when he
made it so a lot of people started taking a lot more liberties with
memories and really liked that new feature.  

Personally I'm more for being able to NULL out CW memories but I suppose
I can always just set them to only send E.  

Granted there are much higher priority things and so far I've been very
pleased with Wayne's prioritizing so I'm content to just leave things in
his hands.  Although I do hope that now that the Sub RX is on its way to
becoming an item that the DVR isn't too far off. :)

~Brett (KC7OTG)

On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 07:34 +0100, David Pratt wrote:
 In a recent message, Roy Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...
 I would like to be able to erase entries from PF1 and PF2 instead of 
 having to overwrite these memories.  Please consider putting this on 
 the list.
 
 Why, Roy?  Surely if you do not want to use the PF1 and PF2 buttons you 
 could just fill them with the firmware versions.  Leaving them blank 
 does not serve any useful purpose and I do feel there are other things 
 on the list that could be given higher priority.
 
 Please tell us the reason you need PF1 and PF2 to be blank.
 
 73

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - DSP IF Width Increment

2008-07-09 Thread Brett Howard
I agree that the 50Hz jumps do feel like much bigger schwacks in the
lower bandwidths but I don't feel them un-reasonably so...  How narrow
do you wish things to get?  25Hz?  10Hz? 1Hz?  Personally I don't know
what the right value is but I do think that 1Hz increments would be too
smooth.  To the point of SLOW.

On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 07:09 +0100, Ian White GM3SEK wrote:
 Doug Joyce wrote:
 
 Having ordered a K3 at Dayton, I've been following the recent 
 discussion on DSP vs. Roofing Filter for bandpass width determination 
 with great interest. In that regard, I have a quick question  - what is 
 the width increment available by adjusting the DSP.  Based on some of 
 the recent postings it seems like it might be 50 Hz but would someone 
 please confirm.
 
 
 This may be a good moment to repeat the request for width/shift/hi/lo 
 increments to scale down automatically with the bandwidth. At SSB 
 bandwidths, 50Hz increments feel smooth and continuous, which is exactly 
 how they should feel; but at narrow bandwidths a 50Hz change is a big 
 jump, and much more tricky to select.
 
 Obviously  this isn't a trivial piece of coding, but it would be good to 
 know that IOTL.
 
 

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[Elecraft] K3 Scan Rate

2008-07-09 Thread Chris Page
Is it possible to vary the speed of scanning on the K3, please?

I am trying to set up my K3 for Channel Hopping the 60m frequencies 
and so far can only do it with a too fast scan rate.

Thanks and 73 de Chris, G4BUE

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[Elecraft] W1 and QRN

2008-07-09 Thread Jon Perelstein
I recently built the W1 Wattmeter/SWR Bridge to use in tuning my antenna.  

I've noticed that whenever I have it in-line between my K1 and the antenna, I 
hear a dramatic increase in receiver noise level.  The S-meter on the K1 goes 
from 2 bars to 4 bars.  This happens whether I have the W1 turned on or turned 
off, and happens on both 20 and 40 meters.

The noise level is lower when the antenna is out of tune (it's a manual trap 
antenna that requires me to manually change a wander lead and change the length 
of a counterpoise when I switch bands).  When I first switch bands, the noise 
is down at 2-3 bars.  Once I tune up the antenna with the wander lead and 
counterpoise, the noise is back up to 4 bars.  I believe (but can't measure) 
that the level of actual transmissions is higher with the W1 in the circuit 
than with the W1 not in the circuit.

The noise itself sounds like broad atmospheric QRN -- it's nothing specific, 
just loud crackling as opposed to a hum or ignition noise or a specific tone.

The only other thing I can say is that I have the W1 connected to the K1 by a 
3' BNC to BNC cable.  The cable is coiled to sit on my desk.  I have tried 
stretching out the cable, but it has not reduced the noise.  Similarly, I have 
tried moving the W1 to various locations on my desk and off the desk without 
any noticeable improvement.

My antenna is not that far from power lines, telephone lines, and cable lines 
(about 10' at closest point, but positioned so that it can't fall on any of the 
lines), and the W1 is not that much further away from the antenna (the antenna 
is mounted to the house just outside the window of my shack). 

Any thoughts as to why the noise level would be dramatically louder with the W1 
in the line?  Could I have done something wrong in building the W1?  It seems 
to be working correctly.

Obviously, I can just take the W1 out of the antenna line to eliminate the 
noise, but I'm curious as to why I would be getting this effect.

Thanks.


  
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RE: [Elecraft] W1 and QRN

2008-07-09 Thread Darwin, Keith
Do you have a BNC coupler such that you could remove the W1 while still
leaving all the BNC cables in place?  Have you tried placing the W1
between the rig and a dummy load to see if the noise level comes up
compared to the dummy load alone?

- Keith N1AS -
- K3 711 -

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Subject: [Elecraft] W1 and QRN

I recently built the W1 Wattmeter/SWR Bridge to use in tuning my
antenna.  

I've noticed that whenever I have it in-line between my K1 and the
antenna, I hear a dramatic increase in receiver noise level.  The
S-meter on the K1 goes from 2 bars to 4 bars.  This happens whether I
have the W1 turned on or turned off, and happens on both 20 and 40
meters.

The only other thing I can say is that I have the W1 connected to the K1
by a 3' BNC to BNC cable.  The cable is coiled to sit on my desk.  I
have tried stretching out the cable, but it has not reduced the noise.
Similarly, I have tried moving the W1 to various locations on my desk
and off the desk without any noticeable improvement.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Scan Rate

2008-07-09 Thread drewko1
The RATE button gives you a choice of scan rates but it would be nice
if there was a wider range of scan speeds available. Depending on how
much band you want to cover, how crowded it is and what you're
scanning for, you might want anything from very slow to very fast,
with a lot of variability in between. If you could adjust the scan
rate interactively while scanning, that would be super.

Also would be nice if the dwell time was user selectable (i.e., the
amount of time a scan will pause on an active freq before resuming the
scan). 

I don't think many people use the scanner on HF but I have found it
very handy on the K2 looking for CW signals. Haven't tried it on the
K3 yet, but from the manual description it looks pretty much the same.

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:28:10 +, Chris, G4BUE wrote:

Is it possible to vary the speed of scanning on the K3, please?

I am trying to set up my K3 for Channel Hopping the 60m frequencies 
and so far can only do it with a too fast scan rate.

Thanks and 73 de Chris, G4BUE


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[Elecraft] [K3] VOX issue

2008-07-09 Thread Bill W5WVO
After my glowing report about the K3 VOX from the operator's perspective
(mine!) a couple days ago, I started using it on the air, and immediately
started getting complaints from stations I was working on 6m. The common
thread boiled down to something like this: It sounds like you are using a
linear with one of those old-fashioned big frame relays that goes
ker-CLACK every time you start talking.

Obviously there are no old-fashioned relays in the barefoot K3, so this is
obviously an artifact of some kind. I'm wondering if anyone else has
encountered this problem. I've gone back to the footswitch until I can get
this problem resolved.

Thanks,
Bill W5WVO

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] VOX issue

2008-07-09 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I use VOX all the time on the other bands (not done much on 6 yet) and  
had not comments and can't hear anything with the monitor.
Have you tried going into Tx Test mode and listening to your AF via  
the monitor and headphones?

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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sequoia tree is to provide shade for the tiny titmouse.
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On 9 Jul 2008, at 13:54, Bill W5WVO wrote:

After my glowing report about the K3 VOX from the operator's  
perspective
(mine!) a couple days ago, I started using it on the air, and  
immediately
started getting complaints from stations I was working on 6m. The  
common
thread boiled down to something like this: It sounds like you are  
using a

linear with one of those old-fashioned big frame relays that goes
ker-CLACK every time you start talking.

Obviously there are no old-fashioned relays in the barefoot K3, so  
this is

obviously an artifact of some kind. I'm wondering if anyone else has
encountered this problem. I've gone back to the footswitch until I  
can get

this problem resolved.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Scan Rate

2008-07-09 Thread Chris Page
Thanks Drew.

At the moment I want to use it to check the seven UK 60 metre 
frequencies by using the Channel Hopping facility.  Even with the 
RATE button set to the slower rate, it still scans over the 
frequencies much too fast.

I agree with you in that it would be nice to be able to vary the rate 
and also the dwell time of the scanning.

73 de Chris, G4BUE

On 9 Jul 2008 at 8:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The RATE button gives you a choice of scan rates but it would be
 nice
 if there was a wider range of scan speeds available. Depending on
 how
 much band you want to cover, how crowded it is and what you're
 scanning for, you might want anything from very slow to very fast,
 with a lot of variability in between. If you could adjust the scan
 rate interactively while scanning, that would be super.
 
 Also would be nice if the dwell time was user selectable (i.e.,
 the
 amount of time a scan will pause on an active freq before resuming
 the
 scan). 
 
 I don't think many people use the scanner on HF but I have found
 it
 very handy on the K2 looking for CW signals. Haven't tried it on
 the
 K3 yet, but from the manual description it looks pretty much the
 same.
 
 73,
 Drew
 AF2Z
 
 
 On Wed, 09 Jul 2008 10:28:10 +, Chris, G4BUE wrote:
 
 Is it possible to vary the speed of scanning on the K3, please?
 
 I am trying to set up my K3 for Channel Hopping the 60m
 frequencies 
 and so far can only do it with a too fast scan rate.
 
 Thanks and 73 de Chris, G4BUE
 
 
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RE: [Elecraft] W1 and QRN

2008-07-09 Thread Chris Craig

Jon,

I can't help you much other than the fact that mine does not do this.

My setup is the same as yours.

K1-- about 18 inches of cable --- W1  --- 18 inches of cable--- ant. tuner.

I replaced the W1 with a coupler and no change. Try swapping out cables or a 
coupler as previously posted. I can't see any reason the the W1 would pick up 
white noise on or off.

Note: I only checked my on 40 meters.

HTH, Chris, KE6GS /XE3

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RE: [Elecraft] K2 audio pops

2008-07-09 Thread Terry Schieler

W4VPI wrote:

I have a new k2 that is all but useless as a CW rig because of audio pops
when transition from tx to rx.  Pop is also present when power on or pwr
off, vol setting no difference in level of pop. Worse with NR off.

I sent my K2 back to Elecraft a little more than a year ago because of
annoying audio pops in the speaker during power up and power down.  After a
thorough check, it was returned to me with an explanation that it was a
normal occurrence.

Having my K3 for several months now, I am learning to live with the same
type of annoying audio pops on power up.  I was hoping there would be some
way to fix this in the software (perhaps a slight delay in the audio line
during power up like other ham rigs and stereo gear).  They are the only two
rigs I own that display this quirk.

Terry, W0FM

K2 #3416
K3  #474

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - DSP IF Width Increment

2008-07-09 Thread W7TEA

On CW, I find the 50hz increments to work well for varying the bandwidth
but prefer a smaller (I am used to 10hz) increment for Shift.  Tweaking the 
shift or PBT function often enhances readability for me, even with the 
narrow filters the K3 provides.  

73, Gary W7TEA



I agree that the 50Hz jumps do feel like much bigger schwacks in the
lower bandwidths but I don't feel them un-reasonably so...  How narrow
do you wish things to get?  25Hz?  10Hz? 1Hz?  Personally I don't know
what the right value is but I do think that 1Hz increments would be too
smooth.  To the point of SLOW.

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[Elecraft] N2CQ QRP Contest Calendar: July 11 to Aug 18 2008

2008-07-09 Thread Ken Newman

~
N2CQ QRP CONTEST CALENDAR
July 11 to August 18, 2008
~
FISTS Summer Sprint (CW) ... QRP Category
Jul 11, 2000 EDT to 2400 EDT
Rules: http://www.fists.org/sprints.html
~
IARU HF World Championship (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category
Jul 12, 1200z to Jul 13, 1200z
Rules: http://www.arrl.org/contests/rules/2008/iaru.html
~
QRP ARCI Summer Homebrew Sprint (CW) ... QRP Contest!
Jul 13, 2000z to 2359z
Rules: http://www.qrparci.org
~
SKCC Weekend Sprintathon (Straight Key CW) ... QRP Category
Jul 13, z to 2359z
Rules: http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/wes/
~
Summer FOX Hunt - QRP 20M CW
EDT: Tue Jul 15. 9 PM  to 1029 PM
UTC: Wed Jul 16, 0100z to 0229z 
Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/

~
NAQCC Straight Key/Bug Sprint *** QRP CONTEST! ***
EDT: Jul 16, 8:30 PM to 10:30 PM
UTC: Jul 17, 0030z to 0230z
Rules: http://www.arm-tek.net/~yoel/contests.html
~
VK/trans-Tasman Contests (160m CW) ... QRP Category
Jul 19, 0900z to 1300z
Rules: http://home.iprimus.com.au/vktasman/RULES.HTM
~
North American QSO Party (RTTY) /QRP Entries Noted
Jul 19, 1800Z to Jul 20, 0600Z
Rules:  http://www.ncjweb.com/naqprules.php
~
CQ WW VHF Contest (All, 6  2 Meters) ... QRP (10W) Category
Jul 19, 1800z to Jul 20, 2100z
Rules: http://www.cq-amateur-radio.com/awards.html
~
RSGB Low Power Field Day (CW) ...QRP Contest!
Jul 20, 0900z to 1200z 
Jul 20, 1300z to 1600z 
Rules: http://www.vhfcc.org/hfcc/calendar07.shtml

~
Colorado Gold Rush (20 mtr CW QRP) ... QRP Contest
July 20, 2000z to 2159z 
Rules: http://www.cqc.org/contests/gold2008.htm

~
RUN FOR THE BACON (CW) *** QRP CONTEST ***
EDT: Jul 20, 9 PM to 11 PM
UTC: Jul 21, 0100z 0300z
Rules: http://fpqrp.net:80/fpqrprun.php
~
SKCC Sprint (Straight Key CW)  ... QRP Awards
Jul 23, z to 0200z
Rules: http://www.skccgroup.com/sprint/sks/
~
Summer FOX Hunt - QRP 20M CW
EDT: Tue Jul 22. 9 PM  to 1029 PM
UTC: Wed Jul 23, 0100z to 0229z 
Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/

~
MQFD Monthly Sprint (CW/PH/Digital) *** QRP Contest ***
Jul 26, 1800z to 2200z
Rules: http://w2agn.net/mqfdsprint.html
~
Islands On The Air Contest (CW/SSB) ... QRP Category
Jul 26, 1200z to Jul 27, 1200z
Rules: http://www.vhfcc.org/hfcc/calendar07.shtml
~
Flight of the Bumblebees (CW) ... QRP Contest!
EDT: Jul 27, 1300  to 1700
UTC: Jul 27, 1700z to 2100z
Rules: http://arsqrp.pbwiki.com/Flight+of+the+Bumblebees
~
Summer FOX Hunt - QRP 20M CW
EDT: Tue Jul 29. 9 PM  to 1029 PM
UTC: Wed Jul 30, 0100z to 0229z 
Info: http://www.qrpfoxhunt.org/

~
QRP BARBERSHOP QUARTET CONTEST (CW QRP)... QRP Contest!
Jul 30, 9PM to 11PM EDT  
Rules: http://www.io.com/~n5fc/barbershop_contest.htm

~
Ten-Ten QSO Party (PH) ... QRP Category
Aug 2, 0001z to Aug 3, 2359z
Rules: http://www.ten-ten.org/QSOPartyRulesRevised.pdf
~
TARA Grid Dip Contest  (PSK/RTTY) ... QRP Category
Aug 2, z to 2400z
Rules: http://www.n2ty.org/seasons/tara_grid_rules.html
~
EUROPEAN HF CHAMPIONSHIP (PH/CW) (EU work EU) Low Power Category
Aug 2, 1200z to 2359z
Rules: http://lea.hamradio.si/~scc/euhfcrules.htm
~
ARRL UHF Contest ... Low Power Category
Aug 2, 1800z to Aug 3, 1800z
Rules: http://www.arrl.org/contests/calendar.html?year=2008
~
North American QSO Party (CW) ... 100W Max.  (/QRP noted on entry)
Aug 2, 1800z to Aug 3, 0600z
Rules: http://www.ncjweb.com/naqprules.php
~
Adventure Radio Spartan Sprint (CW) *** QRP Event! ***
Aug 5, 0100z to 0300z (First Monday 9 PM EDT)
Info: http://arsqrp.pbwiki.com/Spartan+Sprints

[Elecraft] K2: Beer powered Field day radio

2008-07-09 Thread Tom Whiteside
If you scan down this link, you can see KB7UQD powering a K2 for our natural 
powered QSOs...   We find we get a much more optimum QSO/beer ratio using a K2 
over other radios.Thought about using the K3 we used for the rest of the CW 
QSOs but I was too chicken of a regulator failure...

Tom N5TW 
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[Elecraft] K2: Beer powered Field day radio

2008-07-09 Thread Tom Whiteside

Sorry - forgot to add the link...
http://www.arrl.org/contests/update/?issue=2008-07-09#fdvids

Tom N5TW
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Whiteside

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 10:47 AM
Subject: K2: Beer powered Field day radio


If you scan down this link, you can see KB7UQD powering a K2 for our 
natural powered QSOs...   We find we get a much more optimum QSO/beer 
ratio using a K2 over other radios.Thought about using the K3 we used 
for the rest of the CW QSOs but I was too chicken of a regulator failure...


Tom N5TW


Tom Whiteside 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List

2008-07-09 Thread Steef PA2A

I have a few minor things for the wish list too.

- a separate on/off  possibility to save more parameters for each band and 
antenna such as:

- ATU / bypass
- power level
- PA out (not available)

I also would like to have the DATA MD menu setting behave like the TEXT DEC 
setting for CW. Turning to the left should always have the same value, DATA 
A or so, and turning to the right should maybe result in 31 BPS PSK. The 
TEXT DEC setting for data modes could also be left OFF and right ON.


73 's Steef PA2A
K2 #4654
K3 #1184

- Original Message - 
From: Roy Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 3:12 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List



Wayne,
I would like to be able to erase entries from PF1 and PF2 instead of 
having to overwrite these memories.  Please consider putting this on the 
list.  Thanks  Roy Morris  W4WFB

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[Elecraft] RIT range

2008-07-09 Thread w0iit
Hi Gang,

I am new to the list, even though, I have been an Elecraft fan for years(K1 
#907).

I now have a new to me K2 #1543.  I have already fallen in love with it.  I 
have a small problem.  I would like to go to the wider RIT range---I have read 
the manual several times and have decided that I must be dense---how do you get 
this into the PF1 memory.  I would rather just have it become the default 
setting without having to use PF1 but if I have to, I will do it that way.

Thanks for any info!

cu es 72, Bart
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RE: [Elecraft] RIT range

2008-07-09 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Hi Bart:

I can't answer your RIT control range question specifically because I don't
use RIT, but I know how you can have receiver-only tuning across the whole
band. That is, you can adjust your receive frequency anywhere you want in
the band without affecting your transmitting frequency.

Use SPLIT mode. 

With SPLIT enabled, simply tap A=B any time you're tuned to a frequency on
which you want to transmit. For example, you can do that after tuning in a
station calling CQ, or after finding a clear frequency where you want to
transmit. 

Once you've tapped A=B, your transmit frequency is now moved to whatever
frequency you are listening on. Now you can continue to use the big knob
to tune around without affecting your transmit frequency at all. It will
stay wherever it was when you tapped A=B, until you tap A=B again. 

I prefer using that method so I can do all my tuning with the big knob, I
don't have to remember to turn RIT off later, and I can tune to any
frequency I want within the band. 

Ron AC7AC


-Original Message-

Hi Gang,

I am new to the list, even though, I have been an Elecraft fan for years(K1
#907).

I now have a new to me K2 #1543.  I have already fallen in love with it.  I
have a small problem.  I would like to go to the wider RIT range---I have
read the manual several times and have decided that I must be dense---how do
you get this into the PF1 memory.  I would rather just have it become the
default setting without having to use PF1 but if I have to, I will do it
that way.

Thanks for any info!

cu es 72, Bart

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Re: [Elecraft] BL2 Balun Heating

2008-07-09 Thread Paul



Just passing along some information that might be of interest.

I have the K3 with the auto tuner built in.  My antenna is a Cobra Ultralite
fed with ladder line. I can switch between a Johnson Matchbox and a BL2
balun/KAT3 to feed the antenna. I previously had adjusted the feedline
length so that the Matchbox would find a 1 to 1 match on all bands 80
through 10 including 30, 17, and 12 meters. I have received many good signal
reports on all bands with either matching system.

snip

Happy 4th of July.

73,

John W2XS


I have the same antenna, the Cobra Ultralite with window line, and 
simply connect the two ends of the window line to an SGC-230 
automatic tuner http://www.sgcworld.com/230ProductPage.html which is 
mounted outside.  I have the tune power of the K3 set to 3 Watts.  No 
balun required.  Works great, 80 through 10.


Paul N4LCD 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - DSP IF Width Increment

2008-07-09 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 07:09:49 +0100, Ian White GM3SEK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

Doug Joyce wrote:

Having ordered a K3 at Dayton, I've been following the recent 
discussion on DSP vs. Roofing Filter for bandpass width determination 
with great interest. In that regard, I have a quick question  - what is 
the width increment available by adjusting the DSP.  Based on some of 
the recent postings it seems like it might be 50 Hz but would someone 
please confirm.


This may be a good moment to repeat the request for width/shift/hi/lo 
increments to scale down automatically with the bandwidth. At SSB 
bandwidths, 50Hz increments feel smooth and continuous, which is exactly 
how they should feel; but at narrow bandwidths a 50Hz change is a big 
jump, and much more tricky to select.

Obviously  this isn't a trivial piece of coding, but it would be good to 
know that IOTL.

I don't know how much trouble it would be to program, but wouldn't it be nice if
it was selectable?  Then I could have what I like (10hz like the Orion II) and
you could have what you like.  That would also cover being able to choose large
steps when you're in a hurry and small when your being particular.

 
Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - DSP IF Width Increment

2008-07-09 Thread Alexandr Kobranov
I am afraid that any changes of any steps of anything (from 50Hz to 25 
or 10Hz) have to do something with changes of DSP granularity to 10Hz 
declared by Wayne as part of some leter f/w updates.


So we have to keep all ideas for that time after this change

73!
Lexa, OK1DST
K3/10 #727

Tom Childers, N5GE napsal(a):

On Wed, 9 Jul 2008 07:09:49 +0100, Ian White GM3SEK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


Doug Joyce wrote:
Having ordered a K3 at Dayton, I've been following the recent 
discussion on DSP vs. Roofing Filter for bandpass width determination 
with great interest. In that regard, I have a quick question  - what is 
the width increment available by adjusting the DSP.  Based on some of 
the recent postings it seems like it might be 50 Hz but would someone 
please confirm.


This may be a good moment to repeat the request for width/shift/hi/lo 
increments to scale down automatically with the bandwidth. At SSB 
bandwidths, 50Hz increments feel smooth and continuous, which is exactly 
how they should feel; but at narrow bandwidths a 50Hz change is a big 
jump, and much more tricky to select.


Obviously  this isn't a trivial piece of coding, but it would be good to 
know that IOTL.


I don't know how much trouble it would be to program, but wouldn't it be nice if
it was selectable?  Then I could have what I like (10hz like the Orion II) and
you could have what you like.  That would also cover being able to choose large
steps when you're in a hurry and small when your being particular.

 
Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq


Those who would give up 
Essential Liberty to 
purchase a little Temporary 
Safety deserve neither 
Liberty nor Safety 

An excerpt from a letter 
written in 1755 from the 
Assembly to the Governor 
of Pennsylvania.


Support the entire Constitution, not 
just the parts you like.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - DSP IF Width Increment

2008-07-09 Thread Ian White GM3SEK


Brett wrote:


I agree that the 50Hz jumps do feel like much bigger schwacks in the
lower bandwidths but I don't feel them un-reasonably so...  How narrow
do you wish things to get?  25Hz?  10Hz? 1Hz?  Personally I don't know
what the right value is but I do think that 1Hz increments would be too
smooth.  To the point of SLOW.


Since 1Hz increments were your own idea, you just answered yourself - 
and of course you're absolutely right  :-)


The problem is that the SHIFT/LO and WIDTH/HI encoders are 36 steps 
(40?) with a soft detent that gives very little tactile feedback. With 
50Hz shift increments and a 100Hz bandwidth, SHIFT covers the whole 
bandwidth in two small steps of the control. With a 50Hz bandwidth, one 
step takes you clear outside of the passband, so the SHIFT shift 
function doesn't work at all.



Gary wrote:

On CW, I find the 50hz increments to work well for varying the bandwidth
but prefer a smaller (I am used to 10hz) increment for Shift.  Tweaking the
shift or PBT function often enhances readability for me, even with the
narrow filters the K3 provides.

73, Gary W7TEA


On reflection, I'd agree with Gary that  50Hz increments in width are 
OK, and the main improvement is needed in the shift.  10Hz increments 
are the smallest that can be displayed, and would certainly be a big 
improvement at very narrow bandwidths.


However, at wider bandwidths a 10Hz shift increment would take too many 
turns of the control to cover the range. As a very simple compromise, 
10Hz might be switched in automatically for bandwidths of 500Hz and 
below.


Alternatively, this scheme would  give smoother transitions:

10Hz increments (the smallest displayable) for all bandwidths 250Hz

20Hz increments (the next available step) for 250-1000Hz

Keep 50Hz increments for bandwidths 1000Hz.




--

73 from Ian GM3SEK
http://www.ifwtech.co.uk/g3sek
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[Elecraft] Which Filter for Transmit

2008-07-09 Thread Mike Miller
If I have the 2.1 filter selectedfor receive...on main receiver and I 
transmit...am I transmitting thru the stock 2.7 kc filter or thru the 2.1 
filter?  Does the radio transmit thru the widest filter?




Mike Miller KA5SMA
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Re: [Elecraft] Which Filter for Transmit

2008-07-09 Thread Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM



Mike Miller wrote on 07/ 9/08 02:44 PM:

If I have the 2.1 filter selectedfor receive...on main receiver and I 
transmit...am I transmitting thru the stock 2.7 kc filter or thru the 2.1 
filter?  Does the radio transmit thru the widest filter?


I see two different answer for this on the website. The order page says:

On SSB the K3 should transmit through the widest SSB filter available, 
typically 2.7 or 2.8 kHz. (You can receive on any filter.)



but the FAQ says:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.htm#KFL3A Filters

What if I want to transmit SSB via the 2.8 kHz filter but receive via 
the 1.8 kHz filter? Answer for main RX only and for both RXs.


You specify which filter to use for TX (one of the filters on the main 
RX/TX board) independently of which filters to use in RX mode. This 
applies whether you have a sub installed or not, and whether you're 
doing split or not. When you hit PTT, the TX path (on the main RX/TX 
board) takes over. When you release it, whatever RX-mode filters you had 
selected for each receiver is then in effect.



I'm guessing the option to select filters for TX was added in a firmware
update somewhere along the way...

~Iain

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[Elecraft] Re: Low SSB Output on 6 Meters

2008-07-09 Thread Bruce Osterberg

I have a

On 6 meters I have a very low SSB Output.  CW has a full 100 Watts 
output but SSB only peaks around 35 Watts.  But that is only on 6 meters 
.  When I switch to 20 meters SSB I get the full 100 Watts SSB. same Mic 
 nothing has changed except the Band.  What Am I missing on 6 Meters to 
give me the Low Output?


73 Bruce N9BX
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Re: [Elecraft] Which Filter for Transmit

2008-07-09 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

Until further information to the contrary is available from Elecraft, 
you must select the 2.7 or 2.8 filter for SSB, Data and CW transmit.  
The AM transmit filter must be 6 kHz and the FM transmit filter must be 
13 kHz.
Any other settings will result in failure and a ERR TXF (Error Transmit 
Filter) message.


See the Errata sheet that shipped with your K3.

73,
Don W3FPR

Mike Miller wrote:

If I have the 2.1 filter selectedfor receive...on main receiver and I 
transmit...am I transmitting thru the stock 2.7 kc filter or thru the 2.1 
filter?  Does the radio transmit thru the widest filter?




Mike Miller KA5SMA
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[Elecraft] re: RIT RANGE

2008-07-09 Thread w0iit
Wow!  Ask and you shall receive!!

Thanks for the many that responded.  Also some suggested that I use the split 
feature and explained that process to me.

Thanks again!!

cu es 72, Bart
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[Elecraft] K3 - It's here. S/N-1195

2008-07-09 Thread Nick-WA5BDU

My K3 S/N 1195 arrived today at 18:00 local, 30 minutes ago

Ordered 2/18/08
Shipped 7/2/08 (135 days, 4.5 months)
Receipt 7/9/08 (142 days, 4.73 months)

Pleased purchasers:  1

Two minutes before UPS arrived, my wife left to visit relatives for 
several days.  I have unrestricted access to the kitchen table.  How's 
that for timing?


73--Nick, WA5BDU
in Arkansas



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[Elecraft] Switching Supplies KRX UPS shipping notice

2008-07-09 Thread Bill NY9H

the fan on the ity bitty gamma research super Cap  supply  is VERY quiet.
and worked well for the field day K3  GOTA station

and just got the UPS SHIPPING NOTICE for KRX3  !!

bill

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[Elecraft] K3 Serial # 1196 arrived

2008-07-09 Thread Ed Gray W0SD
Ordered February 19th 2008, SN#1196 delivered today July 9th via UPS. 
It would be 10 days under 4 months. It needs assembling.

K3 100 watt
K3 ATU
K3 General Coverage option
K3 200 hz 5 pole
K3 500 hz 5 pole
K3 1.8 khz 8 pole
K3 KXV3 Interface

Just a tip learned from building #1037.  Whenever powered up doing 
testing be sure to not have anything under the radio such as a screw or 
nut if you have the front cover on the bottom off.  Of course you have 
to have the back cover of the bottom on because of the LPA transistors.


The safest is to just put both bottom covers on when ever powering up so 
you don't accidentally short a trace.  This would of course be true 
anytime in the future.


Ed W0SD
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[Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release -- MCU Revision 2.15

2008-07-09 Thread wayne burdick
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.15 is now available. Full details 
appear below and in the release notes.


The use of beta-test firmware is encouraged, but optional. Please send 
any problem reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For instructions on how 
to obtain and load beta firmware, please see:


  http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

MCU 2.15 / DSP 1.84, 7-8-08

* MEMORY RECALL ON 6 M (CW REV, etc.): Corrected recall of
  CW normal/reverse selection and other parameters on 6 meters.

* 50 AND 100 HZ bandwidths are now available in DATA A (for use
  with PSK31 and other narrow modes).

* SYNTH TUNING CORRECTED ON 80 M: Downward tuning of the VFO was 
sometimes

  leading to loss of receive and/or transmit at certain frequencies.

* SYNC DATA: Selecting sync data or “-S” now ensures that the
  same crystal filter will be used for both RX and TX -- either 2.7 or 
2.8 kHz.
  (Sync data mode, enabled by assigning PF1 or PF2 to CONFIG:SYNC DT, 
can be
  used to minimize the error rate of AMTOR, PACTOR, ARQ, and similar 
modes.)
  While -S is in effect, the receive crystal filter cannot be changed 
with
  XFIL, and SHIFT/LOCUT/HICUT are unavailable. WIDTH can still be 
changed,

  but it will affect only the DSP IF, not the crystal filter. The RX
  and TX first I.F.s will thus remain identical, a requirement for -S 
operation.



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RE: [Elecraft] Switching supplies and the K3

2008-07-09 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Hi Thomas,

I'm not sure what your operating style is but if you are looking for 100w on
CW and SSB then I recommend the Gamma Research HPS-1a. I have one and run my
K3-100 with it all the time in a portable fashion. Here is a link to Fred's
site: http://www.gammaresearch.net/

It has a very small footprint, weighs only 1.25 lbs and has no problem
supplying my K3 @ 100w for CW. Fred recommends cutting back to 25 or 30
watts for continuous key down type ops. I've read others who state they run
it at 40 watts for PSK ops without problems. 

Some reviewers commented on the fan and some excessive noise, but I've never
been bothered by it at all. It is indeed not as quiet as the K3 fans, but
certainly not loud IMO. I've heard no noise or hash on the K3 either. I made
a short cable that plugs into the HPS-1a connector (supplied) to APP's to
fit the K3.

If you're looking for a linear replacement, this may not meet your needs.
But for portable or just CW  SSB ops it certainly has worked fine for me.

Take care  73,
Dave W8FGU

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:elecraft-
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Kuehl
 Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 5:24 PM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] Switching supplies and the K3
 
 Hi,
 
 I am back on the Elecraft list after being gone for quite a while. I have
 a K3/100 coming in the next month or 2, and now I am thinking about how it
 is best to power it. The K3 has a nice small footprint and that will be
 much welcomed in my small operating area. And, I don't want to dwarf the
 available space with a big linear power supply. Therefore, I am
 considering a switching power supply with its small size as well.
 Switching supplies have come a long way relative to the RF hash generation
 issue and I am considering going that route. I sure don't want to degrade
 the K3'3 outstanding performance with a noisy supply, so I am still
 cautious.
 
 The eHam reviews for switching supplies provides a lot of different
 opinions for the various products. One in particular, the Jetstream
 JTPS28, seems to get high marks from its users. Is anyone on the list
 using this particular supply to power the K3? If so, what are your
 impressions of its performance? Or should I skip the switching power
 supply idea altogether?
 
 Thanks, Thomas - AC7A
 
 
 
 
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[Elecraft] k3 firmware update.

2008-07-09 Thread PAUL VANOVEREN
I am running the 2.02 version of the firmware, I believe there is a released 
version 2.10, plus two new Beta releases.2.13  and 2.15. ...when I go to the 
utility and it lists 2.02 on the K3 and 2.02 as the available firmware for 
update...did I miss something ??


Paul  NF8J 
K3  758
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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List

2008-07-09 Thread Carl Clawson
I'm with Roy. If I have a system in state A and I fiddle with it and get it
into state B, I want to be able to get back to A. Even if the difference is
trivial and doesn't matter in the slightest. Is there a good reason for
this? No. It's likely a mild form of obsessive compulsive disorder. I should
probably be seen by a psychiatrist.

Or it could be that I've dealt with so much software over the years, with
all kinds of bizarre interactions between seemingly unrelated things, that I
no longer believe that there is such a thing as an unimportant difference.

And by the way, should anal retentive be spelled with a hyphen?

73/WS7L

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Pratt
 Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 11:35 PM
 To: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List
 
 In a recent message, Roy Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...
 I would like to be able to erase entries from PF1 and PF2 instead of 
 having to overwrite these memories.  Please consider putting this on 
 the list.
 
 Why, Roy?  Surely if you do not want to use the PF1 and PF2 
 buttons you could just fill them with the firmware versions.  
 Leaving them blank does not serve any useful purpose and I do 
 feel there are other things on the list that could be given 
 higher priority.
 
 Please tell us the reason you need PF1 and PF2 to be blank.
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wish List

2008-07-09 Thread Pete Spotts

Carl Clawson wrote:


...And by the way, should anal retentive be spelled with a hyphen?
  

Probably only as an adjective... ;-)

Pete

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Re: [Elecraft] k3 firmware update.

2008-07-09 Thread Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM



PAUL VANOVEREN wrote on 07/ 9/08 06:03 PM:

I am running the 2.02 version of the firmware, I believe there is a released 
version 2.10, plus two new Beta releases.2.13  and 2.15. ...when I go to the 
utility and it lists 2.02 on the K3 and 2.02 as the available firmware for 
update...did I miss something ??


According to:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

2.02 is the latest regular release.

If you want to go beta, follow:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_beta_release_instructions.htm

Don't people read web pages around here? ;)

~Iain
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[Elecraft] 80m QRN LP-PAN does it's thing

2008-07-09 Thread n4lq
I just completed a cw qso on 80m. Static is running 10 - 20 db over S9 
tonight. There is nearly 1000 miles between us and the other station was 
using a magnetic loop antenna for transmitting made from 18ft. of copper 
pipe, 3ft. above the ground.
Using the K3 under these conditions was rough. I tried every filter and NR 
setting and kept having trouble with static pumping the agc and blipping out 
letters. AGC fast or slow made no difference. I then switched over to the 
LP-PAN which in addition to being a bandscope, functions as my second 
receiver. I was able to copy him perfectly with the LP-PAN, even with it's 
agc on slow, there is no pumping which seems rather strange to me.
Maybe some adjustment to the agc-slp or agc-thr would help. Any suggestions 
for QRN conditions?

Steve Ellington
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta Firmware Release -- MCU Revision 2.15

2008-07-09 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr.
Is this to minimize a constant frequency shift between TX and RX or is 
it related to phase response (or something else)?

73 es TNX,
Leigh/WA5ZNU

wayne burdick wrote:

MCU 2.15 / DSP 1.84, 7-8-08
...
* SYNC DATA: Selecting sync data or “-S” now ensures that the
  same crystal filter will be used for both RX and TX -- either 2.7 or 
2.8 kHz.
  (Sync data mode, enabled by assigning PF1 or PF2 to CONFIG:SYNC DT, 
can be
  used to minimize the error rate of AMTOR, PACTOR, ARQ, and similar 
modes.)
  While -S is in effect, the receive crystal filter cannot be changed 
with
  XFIL, and SHIFT/LOCUT/HICUT are unavailable. WIDTH can still be 
changed,

  but it will affect only the DSP IF, not the crystal filter. The RX
  and TX first I.F.s will thus remain identical, a requirement for -S 
operation.



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[Elecraft] [OT]: Special Deals @ eBay using Live.com (use for accessories for your Elecraft? ; -) )

2008-07-09 Thread S Sacco
Folks -

This is slightly off-topic, but I've used it twice (to buy an
Audiophile 2496, and a set of Direct Sound EX29 headphones), and
wanted to pass it along before it expires.

The deal changes, both in % discount, and the search terms.  Tonight,
I found several search terms, including Nintendo Wii, which gave me
20% off.  The suggested xbox did not provide any discounts.

Here's a link to the specific How To:
http://www.techdeals.net/2008/07/01/ebay-35-off/

I feel like a bad shopper, because I SHOULD use this discount to buy
something MAJOR, but I'm fighting off the urge to buy a new PC...so I
bought the Audiophile 2496 for my LP-PAN, instead, because the E-MU
0202 was sucking all the life-force out of my 5 year old Dell.

Anyway, everyone's been so helpful on this group, I wanted to pass
this little tidbit along as a way to say thanks, since it's not like
I'm going to be able to describe how the K3's DSP is designed, or
anything similarly wonky.

73,
Steve NN4X

P.S: I have NO CONNECTION WHATSOEVER with live.com, or eBay.
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta Firmware Release -- MCU Revision 2.15

2008-07-09 Thread wayne burdick


On Jul 9, 2008, at 6:41 PM, Leigh L. Klotz, Jr. wrote:


Is this to minimize a constant frequency shift between TX and RX


It's to ensure *no* frequency shift between the two (just in -S mode), 
which minimizes T/R delays because we don't have to switch crystal 
filters.


AMTOR and related modes can also be used without engaging SYNC DATA, 
assuming a suitable value of CONFIG:PLL RLS is set up. I'll expand on 
this topic in an application note when I get a chance.


73,
Wayne
N6KR


wayne burdick wrote:

MCU 2.15 / DSP 1.84, 7-8-08
...
* SYNC DATA: Selecting sync data or “-S” now ensures that the
  same crystal filter will be used for both RX and TX -- either 2.7 
or 2.8 kHz.
  (Sync data mode, enabled by assigning PF1 or PF2 to CONFIG:SYNC DT, 
can be
  used to minimize the error rate of AMTOR, PACTOR, ARQ, and similar 
modes.)
  While -S is in effect, the receive crystal filter cannot be changed 
with
  XFIL, and SHIFT/LOCUT/HICUT are unavailable. WIDTH can still be 
changed,

  but it will affect only the DSP IF, not the crystal filter. The RX
  and TX first I.F.s will thus remain identical, a requirement for -S 
operation.







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[Elecraft] K2/100 for sale correction

2008-07-09 Thread Mike Short
 
It also has the 160 module as well.
 
S/N  6194
 
KSB2
KPA100
KNB2
FDIMP
K160RX
 
K8ZOA Z1 IF buffer amp and Softrock IF receiver for K2.
(These are assembled, the buffer amp is installed, but I have not yet tested
them. 
No sound card that works well enough yet)
 
I would like $1150 obo. 
 

 

Mike Short

AI4NS

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Re: [Elecraft] k3 firmware update.

2008-07-09 Thread Steef PA2A

Iain, if there 's a K3 around I read webpages after a problem occurs hi!

I received #1184 last week with 2.10, probably beta?? I have a problem with 
the notch, I can only toggle between OFF and MANUAL. The AUTO Notch is gone, 
so I 'll have to do some firmware upload. Updating firmware and software is 
not my favourite hobby


73 's Steef PA2A
k2 #4654
K3 #1184

- Original Message - 
From: Iain MacDonnell - K6IAM [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: PAUL VANOVEREN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 3:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 firmware update.


PAUL VANOVEREN wrote on 07/ 9/08 06:03 PM:
I am running the 2.02 version of the firmware, I believe there is a 
released version 2.10, plus two new Beta releases.2.13  and 2.15. ...when 
I go to the utility and it lists 2.02 on the K3 and 2.02 as the available 
firmware for update...did I miss something ??


According to:
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm
2.02 is the latest regular release.
If you want to go beta, follow:
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_beta_release_instructions.htm

Don't people read web pages around here? ;)

~Iain


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