Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Elecraft Case Screws

2009-05-26 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
This sounds like you are damaging the screws slightly when you loosen/ 
tighten them? Presumably, before they started rusting, the bare metal  
was shining through the black?
If that is the case (sorry, no pun intended), then I suggest you don't  
have a good Philips #1 screwdriver and its 'caming' out a little!  
Although the paint has come off my holes in places, the screws are  
just fine. The screw should be a real snug fit on the driver, I can  
pick screws up with mine and it's not magnetic.
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
-- 
The lame man who keeps the right road outstrips the runner who takes a  
wrong one. The more active and swift the latter is, the further he  
will go astray.
-Francis Bacon, essayist, philosopher, and statesman (1561-1626)

On 26 May 2009, at 03:25, davidvk...@virginbroadband.com.au wrote:

 Timely thread, I was just thinking last night that I should replace  
 mine,
 as they are all rusted.

 Ambient temp here varies from about 5ºC to 35ºC with potential high
 humidity, and we are only a couple of hundred metres from a salt water
 lake.

 If anyone comes up with a permanent fix, I'd be interested to hear  
 of it
 (I'd prefer not to have to colour them in every-time I opened up the
 radio!).

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Elecraft Case Screws

2009-05-26 Thread Johnny Siu
Hi,
 
The case screws rusted as well in my K3.  Elecraft has sent me replacement 
screws.
 
The quality the case screws needed to be addressed.  I trust good quality case 
screws would not cause Elecraft too much costs.
 
73
 
Johnny VR2XMC

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Timely thread, I was just thinking last night that I should replace mine,
as they are all rusted.

Ambient temp here varies from about 5繙C to 35繙C with potential high
humidity, and we are only a couple of hundred metres from a salt water
lake.

If anyone comes up with a permanent fix, I'd be interested to hear of it
(I'd prefer not to have to colour them in every-time I opened up the
radio!).

Cheers

David, VK2NU



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[Elecraft] K3 Switching Power Supply

2009-05-26 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
I've been using a SEC-1235 with my K3 for over a year now.  Works great with 
no switching noise.  I did modifiy the power supply by adding a PowerPole 
output connector pair on the rear.  I also made a simple mod to the SEC-1235 
fan circuitry so the fan runs slowly all the time, but can still go to high 
speed if it is ever necessary (info at www.ad5x.com in the Equipment 
Modification section).

Phil - AD5X 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memory

2009-05-26 Thread pd0psb

Hi Gary,

It is possible and called Channel hopping manual pg.40.
Memories should be within 1 band and text-tags should start with a *.
VFO A than rotates through and monitors those memories right away (without
having to push MV)

I think i'ts a bit cumbersome so I prefer using the bandswitch combined with
the 4 quick-memos per band.

It takes the K3 some time to switch all its filter/tuner relais and roofers,
so I think it may never be a fast hopper (every upside has its downside)
but the quick memos are very handy for fast acces to your favourites.

btw The only stupid question is one that isn't asked :-)

73'
Paul
PD0PSB

Is their any likelihood that all favourite frequencies will be accessible
by, for example, rotating B vfo and sequencing thru them as stored memory
channels.

If this is available already I must have missed it.

After the last question I asked on the reflector resulted in a large volume
of hate mail I am not going to ask another one, I have better things to do
with my time.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Switching Power Supply

2009-05-26 Thread wb6rse1
It would be useful for those who use switching power supplies to  
mention on what band(s) they've noted no switching noise with their  
particular choice.

73 - Steve WB6RSE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Switching Power Supply

2009-05-26 Thread Ralph Tyrrell

I have been using the Alinco DM-330MV.
Have worked all bands (just got a 12 m QSO today) that the K3 covers.
No switching noise noted.
Most operation has been 80, 40, 30 and 20 m.
Enjoy having the meter and ability to vary the output voltage.

Ty, W1TF  K3 #696




  
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Re: [Elecraft] Power Required for PSK 31 and Olivia

2009-05-26 Thread Lawrence Libsch
Frank -

No minimum power requirement for BPSK31. I've made QSO's with 1 watt using 
my Softrock SDR radio. Good propagation and a good antenna and patience help. GL

KG4LCF,  Larry
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[Elecraft] K3 USB CAT Interface

2009-05-26 Thread Fred Jensen
[Note: All of this applies to my K2 as well]

FWIW: I'm trying to get N1MM Logger working with my K3.  I have three 
USB-serial adapters [ two of which are just a cable with a USB-A on one 
end and a DB-9 on the other with a chip inside the DB-9], and one of 
which came from Elecraft and comes up as COM7 on my XP laptop.  That one 
works just fine downloading firmware and controlling the K3 from the 
Utility.  The other justacable adapter does not.

Using one from Elecraft, I had no problem getting N1MM to talk to the 
K3, and extract the frequency.  With K3 set for RTS=PTT and DTR=CW, the 
PTT also works just fine from N1MM.  However, when I turn on CW, I get 
some sort of system error I've never seen before.  This also happens 
with Writelog, only a different system error. I think both errors are 
coming from XP.  I'm using the drivers that came with the adapters.

The third adapter is an old Targus PA070 port replicator that came with 
an 11-yr old Gateway POJ laptop, also running XP ... when it will run 
at all.  It provides a serial, parallel, PS2 mouse, keyboard, and two 
additional USB ports.  It works just fine with the K3 and K2 for both 
N1MM and Writelog.  Haven't had the chance to try it with the K3 Utility 
yet.

I was surprised the KUSB from Elecraft doesn't work for the logger-rig 
interface.  I guess all USB-Serial adapters are not created equal.  If 
one doesn't work, try a different one.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2009 Cal QSO Party  3-4 Oct 2009
- www.cqp.org
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[Elecraft] Digital Filter Controls

2009-05-26 Thread Fred Lauricella
I use the Digital Filter Width and center quite a bit in Digi Modes.
Reducing the sensitivity of the BW center control would make operation a lot
easier. When set to minimum-narrow BW the width control is much to
sensitive.

Well I do love my K3 anyway!

73 de Fred KC2QFR
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[Elecraft] Multicore solder specifications?

2009-05-26 Thread Sandy
I have a pound spool of Mulicore solder I'm looking for info on!  It smells 
odd when used and the flux doesn't work too well.  Numbers on end of spool 
below:

Sn63X32B, 21 swg guage

then numbers: D973/815

Anybody have any clues?

73,

Sandy W5TVW

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[Elecraft] K3 KXV3 fried external pre-amp?

2009-05-26 Thread Dave G4AON
This afternoon my K3 was on 6m SSB receive and burst into continuous
transmit with a tone output, this wasn't from catching the Morse paddles
as it was a continuous tone. The only way I could stop it was to turn it
off. Unfortunately it seems to have fried my external 6m pre-amp which
was connected to the RF in/out sockets on the KXV3. Has anyone else
experienced this?

73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Case screws rusting

2009-05-26 Thread David Pratt
In a recent message, g7vjr mich...@g7vjr.org wrote ...
On returning to England I can see that the salty, humid air has done
some damage to the K3, and caused the black case screws to rust.

I cannot remember this ever being an issue with the K1 which uses 
similar screws, nor with the pan-head screws on the K2.  The K1 is often 
used for portable backpack use where moisture could be an issue. This 
suggests that Elecraft could be supplying screws from an alternative 
vendor for the K3.

As an alternative to the suggested stainless steel, are there any brass 
100 degree countersunk screws available?  If so, they could be less 
expensive.

73
-- 
David G4DMP
Leeds, England, UK
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[Elecraft] K3 Case screws rusting

2009-05-26 Thread Nick Henwood
I also found all the countersunk case screws rusted after about 4 days in 
Sierra Leone last October - very humid country of course.  I repainted them 
when I got home. Of more interest perhaps - I also did a careful check of the 
whole K3 to see if humidity had attacked it in other ways but all seems well 
and I have done over 25000 QSOs with it since then. 
73 Nick G3RWF/5X1NH  
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[Elecraft] K3 Switching Power Supply

2009-05-26 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
OK - I've not heard any switching power supply noise from the SEC-1235 on 
any band from 160-6 meters.
Phil - AD5X

It would be useful for those who use switching power supplies to
mention on what band(s) they've noted no switching noise with their
particular choice. 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 USB CAT Interface

2009-05-26 Thread Brian Machesney
Fred,

I use KUSB with K3 and have no trouble sending CW from N1MM using RTS and
DTR from a WinXP laptop. Just letting you know that it *can* work.

73 -- Brian -- K1LI

Snip:

 I was surprised the KUSB from Elecraft doesn't work for the logger-rig
 interface.  I guess all USB-Serial adapters are not created equal.  If
 one doesn't work, try a different one.
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Elecraft Case Screws

2009-05-26 Thread S Sacco
When I see as many posts about a single subject as I see on this one, with
as simple as answer as is available, IMHO it's time for Elecraft to step up,
and use stainless steel screws.

Not everyone operates in low humidity or air conditioned environments, and
the cost, especially in the quantities Elecraft orders them, would be
nominal to say the least.

What about it, Eric?  How about a K3SS (SS for stainless screws :-)  )
model?

73,
Steve
NN4X
(who may have a screw or two loose, but none are rusted...)



On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk wrote:

 Hi,

 The case screws rusted as well in my K3.  Elecraft has sent me replacement
 screws.

[SNIP]
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Memory

2009-05-26 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
I had missed that!
73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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Don't look forward to the day you stop suffering, because when it
comes you'll know you're dead. -Tennessee Williams

On 26 May 2009, at 13:26, pd0psb wrote:


 Hi Gary,

 It is possible and called Channel hopping manual pg.40.
 Memories should be within 1 band and text-tags should start with a  
 *.
 VFO A than rotates through and monitors those memories right away  
 (without
 having to push MV)

 I think i'ts a bit cumbersome so I prefer using the bandswitch  
 combined with
 the 4 quick-memos per band.

 It takes the K3 some time to switch all its filter/tuner relais and  
 roofers,
 so I think it may never be a fast hopper (every upside has its  
 downside)
 but the quick memos are very handy for fast acces to your favourites.

 btw The only stupid question is one that isn't asked :-)

 73'
 Paul
 PD0PSB

 Is their any likelihood that all favourite frequencies will be  
 accessible
 by, for example, rotating B vfo and sequencing thru them as stored  
 memory
 channels.

 If this is available already I must have missed it.

 After the last question I asked on the reflector resulted in a large  
 volume
 of hate mail I am not going to ask another one, I have better  
 things to do
 with my time.

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Elecraft Case Screws

2009-05-26 Thread wayne burdick
We're looking into this.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

S Sacco wrote:

 What about it, Eric?  How about a K3SS (SS for stainless screws 
 :-)  )
 model?

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-26 Thread drewko
I would be happy to have an additional coarse tuning rate of 1
MHz-per-turn, no matter how it is implemented, either by spinning the
knob faster or pushbutton selection.

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Mon, 25 May 2009 12:03:46 -0400 (EDT), Mike  AC6JA wrote:

I was wondering if the K3 VFO tuning rates increase the faster the VFO knob 
 is spun?  Is this a future firmware option if it doesn't?
I have an ICOM 756PROIII and its VFO tuning rate increases with the speed  
of the knob, kinda nice!
Thanks.

Mike  AC6JA

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Re: [Elecraft] digout1

2009-05-26 Thread wayne burdick
Correct, Van. The default for DIGOUT1 is floating (high resistance), or 
OFF. If turned ON for a given band/antenna, it will provide a low-Z 
path to ground to control an external switch. You may need an 
additional series resistor depending on the switch type.

Among other possibilities, DIGOUT1 could be used to turn on an external 
preamp (like our PR6) or do supplemental antenna switching.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 25, 2009, at 9:30 AM, van fair wrote:

 Can anyone confirm that my understanding of DIGOUT1  is correct.  I 
 think that when turned on for each band by going to the band setting 
 antenna to 1 or 2 and then turning it on or off, the following will be 
 true.

  When Off  for any band pin 11 will not go to ground with pin 5  and 
 nothing will happen, When turned on for a band, when going to that 
 band pin 11 will go to ground with pin 5 thereby providing a switch 
 which can be used to cycle a transistor switch on and off depending on 
 band setting.  Am I correct and if not what does happen. Thanks Van 
 W4GIW

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[Elecraft] KX-1 wanted

2009-05-26 Thread Ron Midwin
I am looking for a KX-1 with tuner  paddle.

 

73,

 

Ron

AE6RH

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Multicore solder specifications?

2009-05-26 Thread David Cutter
I think I used that about 30 years ago.  If it's the same as I'm 
remembering, it was an early attempt at a no-clean solder, ie it left very 
little residue and did not require cleaning.  It didn't work for me and I 
sent it back.  I think the flux wasn't aggressive enough for what we were 
soldering:  I (my staff) would use a pound a week at the time.

73

David
G3UNA

- Original Message - 
From: Sandy ebj...@charter.net
To: Glowbugs reflector glowb...@piobaire.mines.uidaho.edu; Elecraft 
List Elecraft@mailman.qth.net; boatanch...@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 5:38 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Multicore solder specifications?


I have a pound spool of Mulicore solder I'm looking for info on!  It smells
 odd when used and the flux doesn't work too well.  Numbers on end of spool
 below:

 Sn63X32B, 21 swg guage

 then numbers: D973/815

 Anybody have any clues?

 73,

 Sandy W5TVW

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Split RS232?

2009-05-26 Thread NZ0T

 Thanks Howard - seems to work fine as I have ACLog and K3_EZ running and
connected at the same time.  Now I need to figure out why K3_EZ keeps
messing the band map in the K3.


Let's say your K3 has one 9pin RS232C port, and you want to connect it to
your amplifier so the amplifier will always know the band/frequency the
radio is set to.
But wait - you also have the Palstar AT AUTO auto-tuner and you want to
connect its RS232 port to the K3 so that the tuner will always retune every
time you change the K3 frequency.  But, that's not enough.  You want to run
Ham Radio Deluxe on the computer - and it needs to access the K3's RS232
port.  What's a HAM to do?

This free VSPE software can solve it for you.

Let's say your computer has 3 COM ports:

COM1 - connected to the Radio.
COM2 - connected to the Apmplifier
COM3 - connected to the Antenna Tuner
Software 1: need to get access to COM1 (Radio) - Ham Radio Deluxe
Software 2: need to get access to COM1 (Radio) - perhaps some other
software.

Amplifier and Antenna tuner devices must also be connected to the
Radio.
---

Right?

1) Create VSPE Splitter (Source port=COM1, Virtual port = COM9)
2) Create VSPE Serial Redirector (COM9 = COM2) : (Radio = Amplifier)
3) Create VSPE Serial Redirector (COM9 = COM3) : (Radio = Antenna
Tuner)
4) Change Software 1 settings to use COM9 instead of COM1
5) Change Software 2 settings to use COM9 instead of COM1

Now the problem is solved - everything can share the COM1 going to the K3
radio.

The only problem that may exist is that if several programs try to send data
to the radio at the same moment, the bytes may get intermixed and if this
occurs it will be an unintelligible mess to the radio.  I have not tried
this, so I do not know if it will or will not occur.

Howard



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Re: [Elecraft] voice heard on ext speaker using monitor

2009-05-26 Thread wayne burdick
Hi Wade,

 While using the monitor feature to listen to my audio, I had my head 
 phones on in transmit. The ext speaker doesn't cut out during 
 transmit.

Correct.  If SPKR+PH is ON then the speaker is active when the 
headphones are active.

Tx or Rx is not a condition of making the speaker active.

 This only seems to happen when using monitor and an external speaker.

Correct.

 Has anyone had this problem???

I don't think this is a problem. It is how you have the radio set up.

 I have also heard 2 birdies on 20 meters anf 1 on 40 meters. I know I 
 tightened all the screws during assembly for good grounds,but could 
 have missed one

The K3 is a very high-dynamic range, down-conversion superhet. It's 
nearly impossible to remove all birdies in such a design. But we think 
we did a pretty good job of it :)

If you have any left (that you can hear with an antenna connected), you 
can remove them using the SIG RMV menu entry in the CONFIG menu. 
Below are the instructions for SIG RMV, from the latest owner's manual 
(not released yet).

73,
Wayne
N6KR


* * *

SPURIOUS SIGNAL REMOVAL: Fast-tuning “birdies” can in some cases be 
eliminated using the SIG RMV menu entry. We recommend that this be 
attempted only on birdies that can be heard with an antenna connected. 
(In SSB modes, simply leaving auto-notch on may be effective.)

STEPS:

(1) Set up the receiver for a desired band, and select the mode you’d 
normally use in the target band segment. Also set the DSP passband 
controls to the settings you use most often (e.g., NORMalized by 
holding NORM).

(2) Locate a birdie to be removed. A birdie is considered “fast-tuning” 
if a small change in the SHIFT control (e.g. 50 Hz) moves the birdie 
about 400 Hz or more (with a narrow filter selected, this small shift 
may move it completely out of the passband). Such birdies result from 
UHF harmonics of the VFO. If you test a birdie using SHIFT, be sure to 
return SHIFT to its normal setting before continuing, because the value 
of SHIFT affects the birdie frequency.

(3) Change the SIG RMV parameter to 0. This will save necessary 
information about the birdie, including the present VFO frequency, 
mode, filter, and SHIFT value.

(4) Try different parameter values, starting with -1 or 1, to see if 
the birdie can be removed (shifted out of the audible passband). Use 
the smallest effective value.

Important: If you change the parameter, exit the menu and see if the 
birdie has disappeared. Each SIG RMV value applies to a single 100-Hz 
VFO segment, e.g. from 28135.30to 28135.39, so you’ll have to tune 
slowly through that 100-Hz range using 10-Hz steps to make sure the 
birdie has been completely removed. You may hear a slight tuning 
artifact as you tune in and out of the mapped-out segment.

Note: In many cases, you’ll need to apply SIG RMV to at least two 
adjacent 100-Hz VFO segments. Also, if you use more than one filter 
bandwidth or SHIFT setting in the present operating mode, you’ll 
probably need to map out the birdie more than one time. If you change 
your CW sidetone pitch, you may need to re-do the procedure.

To undo SIG RMV:

If you tapCLR while you’re in the SIG RMV menu entry, all birdie 
information for the present band will be permanently deleted.

Limitations:

SIG RMV applies only to CW/SSB/DATA modes, and only to the main 
receiver (at present). Do not remove birdies on transverter bands; 
instead, remove them on the I.F. band. On each band from 160-6 m, up to 
60 birdies can be removed. But as mentioned above, each one may have to 
be mapped out from adjacent VFO segments as well as for different 
filter and SHIFT settings. So the number of birdies that can be 
completely removed is around 5 to 20 per band.

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Re: [Elecraft] Power Required for PSK 31 and Olivia

2009-05-26 Thread Parker Buckley
Hope I can reply from digest mode...

From: Frank MacDonell kd8...@gmail.com

My K3 works well for CW at 5 watts but it seems I cannot get through
to stations using PSK 31. Is there a minimum power level suggested for
PSK31?  Can you run QRP for Olivia? Thanks everybody!

-- 
Frank KD8FIP

I've noticed the same thing (with my K2).  I can easily make QRP contacts in
CW, but don't have the same result with PSK or Olivia.  I fire up an old
FT-757 for that purpose and run 30 watts or so, even though PSK is known for
its low-power capability.  My pure speculation is that the brighter trace
from higher power attracts more replies, even though the weaker trace from
QRP is perfectly readable.

Parker WD8JOL 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Case screws rusting

2009-05-26 Thread David Yarnes
Hi All,

Wayne says he's looking into this, which would be great! 
I'll tell you though, there is a big difference between just 
plain old humidity and salt air!  I don't think backpacking 
in damp forests will even come close to causing the problem 
that just a little exposure to salt air will cause.  And if 
the screws are rusting, you had better take a look-see 
inside as well.

When we go to the Oregon coast during the summer, we are 
only a little more than a hundred yards from the water.  I 
can almost watch my stuff rusting and corroding right in 
front of me!  Seriously, I put up a Buddipole for a couple 
of days, and then took it down.  I couldn't even unscrew the 
sections!  The antenna mount on my vehicle needs constant 
treatment for rust and corrosion while I'm there.  Even my 
tools, which are kept in a toolbox and inside the storage 
area of my motorhome, get rusty and corroded.  You should 
see what salt air does to chrome!

There is a product out there called KwikLube, and it's 
made by an outfit called Kwikee Products in Cottage Grove, 
Oregon.  The guy who works on my motorhome up there swears 
by this stuff.  There are other products out there, but he 
insists this stuff does better than any of them.  It will 
inhibit and/or stop rust and corrosion.  If you are going 
into a salt water environment, you might want to 
periodically daub a little of this on the screwheads. 
Problem is, you can really protect everything that probably 
needs protecting.  I also would be inclined to pull the 
covers off afterward, and attend to any noticeable problems.

I was born in Oregon, but lived away from the coast.  Now I 
live in the desert.  One of the big reasons the military 
chose Tucson for its big aircraft storage location (The 
Boneyard), is that they can even leave good planes out 
there for years without worrying a lick about rust or 
corrosion.  So, this has been a whole new experience for 
me--keeping up with rust an corrosion in salt air 
environments--and it can darn near be a full time job!

Dave W7AQK


- Original Message - 
From: David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk
To: g7vjr mich...@g7vjr.org
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 7:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Case screws rusting


 In a recent message, g7vjr mich...@g7vjr.org wrote ...
On returning to England I can see that the salty, humid 
air has done
some damage to the K3, and caused the black case screws to 
rust.

 I cannot remember this ever being an issue with the K1 
 which uses
 similar screws, nor with the pan-head screws on the K2. 
 The K1 is often
 used for portable backpack use where moisture could be an 
 issue. This
 suggests that Elecraft could be supplying screws from an 
 alternative
 vendor for the K3.

 As an alternative to the suggested stainless steel, are 
 there any brass
 100 degree countersunk screws available?  If so, they 
 could be less
 expensive.

 73
 -- 
 David G4DMP
 Leeds, England, UK
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Case screws rusting

2009-05-26 Thread K9ZTV
Not being a metallurgist I have no business posting on this subject, 
other than in recalling past experiences with dissimilar metals.

I specifically remember a stainless steel ball-mount quickly digesting 
an aluminum bumper in the presence of everyday moisture and air.

For the price of a few screws from Elecraft (minimal if anything), 
spending research effort on a few rusty screws seems to me a substantial 
waste of everyone's time.

73,

Kent Trimble, K9ZTV
Jefferson City, MO
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[Elecraft] Fw: Re: Switching PS with the K3 - thoughts?

2009-05-26 Thread WILLIS COOKE


Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ


--- On Mon, 5/25/09, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@flash.net wrote:

 From: WILLIS COOKE wrco...@flash.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Switching PS with the K3 - thoughts?
 To: Don - K2PMC k2...@arrl.net
 Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 7:50 PM
 I have been using a JTPS28 since Dec
 2006 with my TS-850 then my K3.  I often power receiver
 on two transceivers plus one on transmit with no
 problems.  I love the unit except the meter pilot lamps
 are not as reliable as the rest.
 
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
 K5EWJ
 
 
 --- On Mon, 5/25/09, Don - K2PMC k2...@arrl.net
 wrote:
 
  From: Don - K2PMC k2...@arrl.net
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Switching PS with the K3 -
 thoughts?
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Date: Monday, May 25, 2009, 7:33 PM
  
  I've beent using the Jetstream JTPS28 switching supply
 with
  my K3 since Feb
  '08 and it works like a charm.  Weighs in at 4
 pounds
  and never shows any
  signs of heating up.
  
  73,
  Don
  K2PMC
  -- 
  View this message in context: 
  http://n2.nabble.com/Re%3A-Switching-PS-with-the-K3---thoughts--tp2967686p2972625.html
  Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at
 Nabble.com.
  
 
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[Elecraft] Curious Power Output on PSK

2009-05-26 Thread Eric Fitzgerald
Hello All;

I am a new K3/100 owner (sn 3045) and a relatively new ham.  I come  
from an art background so please forgive my ignorance.

I use my K3 mostly for soundcard digital and I've noticed something  
peculiar. Wayne suggests setting the soundcard's outputs (Master
Wave) to 50% and use the Mic Gain to drive the output until either 4   
bars of ALC show or the output power level is just below the target   
power output set on the K3.  Since no ALC shows on my set-up anywhere  
near the point the target output is achieved, the latter procedure is  
applicable here.

When I set the power on the K3 to 50 watts, I am looking for an  
output level of 40-45 watts.  When I start out or switch to a new  
band, tune the band on my doublet or G5RV and key down, the Mic Gain  
will be at something like 43 (out of 60) to achieve 40-45 watts.  So  
far so good.  But slowly the output creeps up.  I keep readjusting  
the Mic Gain downwards and it usually settles around 27 to where the  
40-45 watts  power out stays consistent.  If I leave it at 27 and  
switch bands, 27 will produce less than 10 watts! Even if I switch  
back to the same band.  The K3 will eventually level back out at  
27.   Last night I left the radio on all night after using it and   
when I came back to it this morning, the 27 level still worked  
perfectly right away.

This seems odd to me.  Is this to be expected?  I wonder what is  
going on.

73 de Eric, KG6MZS
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Re: [Elecraft] Curious Power Output on PSK

2009-05-26 Thread Lyle Johnson
Hello Eric!

 I use my K3 mostly for soundcard digital and I've noticed something  
 peculiar. Wayne suggests setting the soundcard's outputs (Master
 Wave) to 50% and use the Mic Gain to drive the output until either 4   
 bars of ALC show

Correct.

 or the output power level is just below the target   
 power output set on the K3.

I think this is a misunderstanding.  There must be at least 4 bars of ALC.

On the K3, the ALC indicator is based on audio input, *not* RF feedback.

If you can't get 4 bars of ALC, you need more audio from the computer, 
or more LINE IN gain.

If you have less drive, you will get Tx Power creep, because the system 
Tx gain is set based on the audio level being at least 4 bars of ALC.

Hope this is helpful to you.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Case screws rusting

2009-05-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
David W7AQK wrote:

So, this has been a whole new experience for 
me--keeping up with rust an corrosion in salt air 
environments--and it can darn near be a full time job!

---

That's why ships prefer bronze or brass for any exposed fittings. Stainless
is only corrosion resistant. It is not corrosion proof. 

But salt water droplets in sufficient quantities to cause trouble don't
travel far from the surf. I live on the Oregon coast a few hundred yards
from the sea and have listen to surf pounding away 24/7 and smell the sea,
but we have no corrosion issues, even outside, other than what one would
expect anywhere metal is exposed to rain and fog. 

But then, in Oregon it's said that we don't tan, we rust.

Ron AC7AC


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-26 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
ac...@aol.com wrote:
 I was wondering if the K3 VFO tuning rates increase the faster the VFO knob 
  is spun?  Is this a future firmware option if it doesn't?
 I have an ICOM 756PROIII and its VFO tuning rate increases with the speed  
 of the knob, kinda nice!

I have a Sangean ATS 83 that does it (venerable mass market portable 
including shortwave and BFO).

Not only is the idea obvious, but any patent that was obtained, in spite 
of the obviousness, will be long since expired.

I was surprised that the K2 didn't do it and even more surprised that 
the K3 doesn't.


 Thanks.
 
 Mike  AC6JA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-26 Thread wayne burdick
This is referred to as ballistic tuning. We experimented with it but  
rejected it when we did the K2 design. I haven't tried it on the K3  
yet, but I've added it to my list.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On May 26, 2009, at 2:28 PM, David Woolley (E.L) wrote:

 ac...@aol.com wrote:
 I was wondering if the K3 VFO tuning rates increase the faster the  
 VFO knob
  is spun?  Is this a future firmware option if it doesn't?
 I have an ICOM 756PROIII and its VFO tuning rate increases with the  
 speed
 of the knob, kinda nice!

 I have a Sangean ATS 83 that does it (venerable mass market portable
 including shortwave and BFO).

 Not only is the idea obvious, but any patent that was obtained, in  
 spite
 of the obviousness, will be long since expired.

 I was surprised that the K2 didn't do it and even more surprised that
 the K3 doesn't.


 Thanks.

 Mike  AC6JA
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Re: [Elecraft] Dipoles and Heat

2009-05-26 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Frank MacDonell wrote:
 I am using a center fed dipole in the attic for a K3. Does the antenna
 generate any measurable amount of heat during TX? Thanks.
 

Yes.  Subject to using suitable measuring instruments.

If the antenna is a reasonable length, a lot more heat will be generated 
in the building structure (conceivably more than 50% of the power) than 
in the antenna wire.  If the antenna is, in particular, electrically 
very short, a lot of the power could go to directly heating it.

I will also depend on the size and construction of the wire.

Why?  If you are considering the total thermal load, I think the 
building structure dissipation will be the most important factor.

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[Elecraft] [K3] Case screws rusting

2009-05-26 Thread Dave Zeph
Wayne .. It would help to know officially whether the Case Screws fit an
82-degree or 100-degree countersink hole.  Both numbers have been indicated
on the Reflector.

 

 

73 -* Dave, W9ZRX

 

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[Elecraft] Flat-head case screws

2009-05-26 Thread wayne burdick
82.

Wayne
N6KR


On May 26, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Dave Zeph wrote:

 Wayne .. It would help to know officially whether the Case Screws 
 fit an
 82-degree or 100-degree countersink hole.  Both numbers have been 
 indicated
 on the Reflector.

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Re: [Elecraft] Dipoles and Heat

2009-05-26 Thread Guy Olinger, K2AV
Probably the same as as a 50 watt light bulb, but spread all over all the 
material in the attic.  One could not measure it with any ordinary heat 
measuring devices.  Quite a bit of the misdirected RF would be spread all 
over places other than the attic by the house wiring.

73, Guy.


- Original Message - 
From: Frank MacDonell kd8...@gmail.com
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 6:08 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Dipoles and Heat


I am using a center fed dipole in the attic for a K3. Does the antenna
 generate any measurable amount of heat during TX? Thanks.

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Re: [Elecraft] Dipoles and Heat

2009-05-26 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue, 26 May 2009 18:06:03 -0400, Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote:

Probably the same as as a 50 watt light bulb, 

This seems wildly pessimistic. I'd guess no more than a dB or so of 
dissipation. A typical dipole near resonance looks like about 70 
ohms, nearly all of which is a resistance that represents RADIATED 
power, with the rest being wire resistance. So lets say that some of 
that power causes current flow in nearby conductive objects. That 
current will be small unless those objects are near resonance, and 
whatever the current, it will cause more re-radiation than 
dissipation, because those objects have radiation resistance too. 

73,

Jim K9YC


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[Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-26 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
The K144XV 2M Module for the K3 and the W2 HF and VHF/UHF Wattmeter are 
now on the Elecraft Web order form. (The first order came in less than 5 
minutes after we uploaded it. Guess they were watching!)

One note: For the K144XV, please be sure to check the box that tells us 
if you have a K3/10 or K3/100. We ship a different rear blank panel or 
fan panel depending on which it is. (The antenna connector for the 
K144XV mounts in a new replacement rear panel.)

Order form:
http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm


K144XV preliminary data sheet:
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K144XV%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf
or:
http://snipurl.com/k144xv

W2 preliminary data sheet:
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/W2%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf
or:
http://snipurl.com/elecraftw2


73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-26 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Also, please do not forget to select at least one directional coupler 
for the W2, which is part of the base W2 price. 

The W2 supports up to two directional couplers.

73, Eric


Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 The K144XV 2M Module for the K3 and the W2 HF and VHF/UHF Wattmeter 
 are now on the Elecraft Web order form. (The first order came in less 
 than 5 minutes after we uploaded it. Guess they were watching!)

 One note: For the K144XV, please be sure to check the box that tells 
 us if you have a K3/10 or K3/100. We ship a different rear blank panel 
 or fan panel depending on which it is. (The antenna connector for the 
 K144XV mounts in a new replacement rear panel.)

 Order form:
 http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm


 K144XV preliminary data sheet:
 http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K144XV%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf
 or:
 http://snipurl.com/k144xv

 W2 preliminary data sheet:
 http://www.elecraft.com/manual/W2%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf
 or:
 http://snipurl.com/elecraftw2


 73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] Dipoles and Heat

2009-05-26 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Assuming the heat question was from a safety standpoint, I'd be more
concerned with corona discharge than heat. 

Many attic antennas have very limited attention paid to insulating the
high-impedance points, assuming the dry wood rafters are adequate. There are
been reports of fires caused by just such assumptions where the high
impedance end of the wire was near dust and other combustible materials. 

Ron AC7AC

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[Elecraft] K3 - 2 meters and MARS/CAP

2009-05-26 Thread J. Heide

I just ordered the 2 meter option and the new wattmeter. On the VHF module, 
will it be able to work on MARS/CAP frequencies and/or RX outside the ham band? 
Just curious since the K3 is slowly replacing almost all the other radios in my 
radio room as more features and options get added.

Th3 K3 seems to do almost everything. I hunt down DX when I'm in the mood, talk 
with friends on 160 meters, but mostly work my 6 meter repeater on the main VFO 
and listen to 910 KNEW on the sub receiver. 

73 de Josh K6ZRX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Wayne,

I have that ballistic tuning on my Yaesu FT-847 and find it cumbersome 
to use.  It may be that I am just not used to it (I use my K2 and K3 
more often, but for right now, operating with a ballistic tuning know is 
*not* one of the skills I want to have to learn.  I am quite happy with 
the RATE button on the K3.

73,
Don W3FPR

wayne burdick wrote:
 This is referred to as ballistic tuning. We experimented with it but  
 rejected it when we did the K2 design. I haven't tried it on the K3  
 yet, but I've added it to my list.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR


 On May 26, 2009, at 2:28 PM, David Woolley (E.L) wrote:

   
 ac...@aol.com wrote:
 
 I was wondering if the K3 VFO tuning rates increase the faster the  
 VFO knob
  is spun?  Is this a future firmware option if it doesn't?
 I have an ICOM 756PROIII and its VFO tuning rate increases with the  
 speed
 of the knob, kinda nice!
   

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-26 Thread Ken Kopp
A ballistic tuning rate on my K3 would be below the
bottom of my wish list.  (:-))

It's faster to use the FREQ ENT method, if at all.

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - 2 meters and MARS/CAP

2009-05-26 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Not currently. It covers 144-148 MHz, all modes.

What frequencies ranges are needed for 2M MARS/CAP?

73, Eric  WA6HHQ



J. Heide wrote:
 I just ordered the 2 meter option and the new wattmeter. On the VHF module, 
 will it be able to work on MARS/CAP frequencies and/or RX outside the ham 
 band? Just curious since the K3 is slowly replacing almost all the other 
 radios in my radio room as more features and options get added.

 Th3 K3 seems to do almost everything. I hunt down DX when I'm in the mood, 
 talk with friends on 160 meters, but mostly work my 6 meter repeater on the 
 main VFO and listen to 910 KNEW on the sub receiver. 

 73 de Josh K6ZRX
   
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-26 Thread Brett Howard
Can the K144XV be installed sans sub rx?  It kinda looks like it mounts
to the top of the sub rx.  Deeply apologize if this has already been
answered and I've missed it.

On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 16:51 -0700, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 The K144XV 2M Module for the K3 and the W2 HF and VHF/UHF Wattmeter are 
 now on the Elecraft Web order form. (The first order came in less than 5 
 minutes after we uploaded it. Guess they were watching!)
 
 One note: For the K144XV, please be sure to check the box that tells us 
 if you have a K3/10 or K3/100. We ship a different rear blank panel or 
 fan panel depending on which it is. (The antenna connector for the 
 K144XV mounts in a new replacement rear panel.)
 
 Order form:
 http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm
 
 
 K144XV preliminary data sheet:
 http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K144XV%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf
 or:
 http://snipurl.com/k144xv
 
 W2 preliminary data sheet:
 http://www.elecraft.com/manual/W2%20Data%20Sheet%20rev%204sm.pdf
 or:
 http://snipurl.com/elecraftw2
 
 
 73, Eric  WA6HHQ
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-26 Thread Lyle Johnson
 Can the K144XV be installed sans sub rx? 

Yes.  The sub Rx is not a requirement for the K144XV, but it will take 
advantage of it if present.

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV 2M Module and W2 Wattmeter on Web Order Form

2009-05-26 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Yes - It has its own mounting bracket to the side of the K3 and can be 
installed without or with the KRX3 sub rx. (You get a new K3 left side 
panel with the new mounting holes.) It actually sits a little above the 
sub RX and does not contact it.

The K144XV and KRX3 are totally independent mechanically.

73, Eric   WA6HHQ


Brett Howard wrote:
 Can the K144XV be installed sans sub rx?  It kinda looks like it mounts
 to the top of the sub rx.  Deeply apologize if this has already been
 answered and I've missed it.


   
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[Elecraft] model # for the Radio Shack 35 amp sw/ps

2009-05-26 Thread WADE JONES

I read the eariler info on this ps. I'd like to look it up on the radio shack 
website. What is the model #,etcthx and 73, Wade w7ute


  
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Re: [Elecraft] Dipoles and Heat

2009-05-26 Thread Guy Olinger, K2AV
The loss will be from dielectric loss, especially with asphalt shingles 
above.  For RF loss purposes, not much difference between layered asphalt 
shingles and an inch, half inch, of dirt. Plenty lossy.  Lay a dipole on an 
asphalt roof and explain the detuning and the widening of the SWR curve.

73, Guy

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com
To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Dipoles and Heat


 On Tue, 26 May 2009 18:06:03 -0400, Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote:

Probably the same as as a 50 watt light bulb,

 This seems wildly pessimistic. I'd guess no more than a dB or so of
 dissipation. A typical dipole near resonance looks like about 70
 ohms, nearly all of which is a resistance that represents RADIATED
 power, with the rest being wire resistance. So lets say that some of
 that power causes current flow in nearby conductive objects. That
 current will be small unless those objects are near resonance, and
 whatever the current, it will cause more re-radiation than
 dissipation, because those objects have radiation resistance too.

 73,

 Jim K9YC


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[Elecraft] K3-Squelch Sub Pot

2009-05-26 Thread Jim - W6VAR

I just tried listening to a 6M FM net on my K3. I set SQ SUB to Sub Pot and
noticed that the squelch opens when the sub rf/sql is adjusted full
clockwise. Backing of slightly closes the squelch. Anyone else observe this.
Also, sometimes it goes to 29 and other times to 30 when fully advanced. My
firmware is 3.14.

Jim - W6VAR
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates

2009-05-26 Thread Bob Garrett
Don,

I agree wholeheartedly!  Ballastic tuning is painful and detracts from the 
operating experience.  Just one man's opinion.

73,  Bob K3UL 

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Re: [Elecraft] Dipoles and Heat

2009-05-26 Thread n7ws

I responded privately to the OP earlier in the day with the following.  Since 
this thread has taken on new meaning. I'm posting it here:

Frank,

Maybe a little thought experiment would help.

Consider that a K3/100 (I assume that is your worry) puts out at best 100 W and 
with most modes and operating styles, the average is much much less.

If you were running a full-carrier mode like FM or RTTY, the duty cycle is 100% 
while transmitting, but assuming a 50-50 split between transmitting and 
listening, it's 50%.  So in the worst case, let's say the average output is 50 
W.  On CW or SSB it will be even lower.

Now this is at the output connector.  With almost any run of cable, there will 
be some loss, but to be conservative, assume that it is zero.  So at the 
antenna feedpoint the average power is 50 W.  Hopefully, most of this is 
radiated and escapes the confines of your attic.  In fact, a dipole is very 
nearly 100% efficient, but assume for a moment that it isn't and 50% of the 
available power is converted to heat.

This means that 25 W is dissipated as heat, and the other 25 is radiated.  Most 
of the heat will be in the neighborhood of the feedpoint because that is the 
area of higher current.  However, it isn't a point loss but spread over some 
length of the wire.

But let's pretend that all of the heat is generated in a very small spot on the 
wire and contemplate this.

I like to sometimes turn these things into other questions, so I would ask 
myself, Self, if I was trying to heat up that wire to solder the transmission 
line to the wire, what is the likelihood of doing the job with a 25-W soldering 
iron?

Pretty unlikely isn't it?  And that is the worst case scenario.  With a small 
amount of power distributed over any appreciable length of copper there simply 
isn't going to be any significant temperature rise.

End Quote.

Now to address David's remarks that follow:

A lot of this is conjecture at this point since the size and composition of the 
attic, the electrical length of the dipole and the frequency are all unknowns 
at this point.

However, using my backwards logic from above, consider actually trying to 
absorb the transmitter power in the building without it leaking to the 
outside.  Having done measurements in anechoic chambers and free-space antenna 
ranges, I can tell you that it's difficult.

Or try to imagine purposely attempting to heat the attic with a 50 W heating 
element.  If it's a cold climate, it's not going to happen and if it's like 
where I live where last week the air temperature was 102F and the solar 
insolation on the roof was 1 KW/m^2, what effect would another 50 W make?

Answer: none.  This is a non-issue.

Wes Stewart  N7WS


 
 Frank MacDonell wrote:
  I am using a center fed dipole in the attic for a K3.
 Does the antenna
  generate any measurable amount of heat during TX?
 Thanks.
  
 
 Yes.  Subject to using suitable measuring
 instruments.
 
 If the antenna is a reasonable length, a lot more heat will
 be generated 
 in the building structure (conceivably more than 50% of the
 power) than 
 in the antenna wire.  If the antenna is, in
 particular, electrically 
 very short, a lot of the power could go to directly heating
 it.
 
 I will also depend on the size and construction of the
 wire.
 
 Why?  If you are considering the total thermal load, I
 think the 
 building structure dissipation will be the most important
 factor.





  
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Re: [Elecraft] model # for the Radio Shack 35 amp sw/ps

2009-05-26 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
There is a 25 Amp Model: 22-510 / Catalog #: 22-510  


Regards,
Dick - KA5KKT

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[Elecraft] K3 Assembly Question

2009-05-26 Thread Dave, W8OV
I'm considering ordering a K3 kit soon.  I wonder how 'optional' these 
items listed in the assembly manual really are:

Optional Equipment:
1.  RF Power Meter with accurate readout from 1 mW to 5 watts, minimum.
2.  Signal generator with calibrated 50 uV output at 20 or 40 meters. 

I have a Bird 43 wattmeter, but don't know of any element in the HF 
range that would read 1 mW.

--Dave, W8OV
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly Question

2009-05-26 Thread Dick Dievendorff
You don't need a wattmeter.  If you have one, you can set the K3 so that its
internal watt meter matches yours (at 5 and/or 50 watts).

You don't need a 1 mw wattmeter.

You don't really need a signal generator.

Dick, K6KR


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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave, W8OV
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:48 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly Question

I'm considering ordering a K3 kit soon.  I wonder how 'optional' these 
items listed in the assembly manual really are:

Optional Equipment:
1.  RF Power Meter with accurate readout from 1 mW to 5 watts, minimum.
2.  Signal generator with calibrated 50 uV output at 20 or 40 meters. 

I have a Bird 43 wattmeter, but don't know of any element in the HF 
range that would read 1 mW.

--Dave, W8OV
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates (alternative: via FREQ ENT)

2009-05-26 Thread wayne burdick
One idea already on the list is to have the VFO A and/or VFO B knobs be 
live after you tap FREQ ENT, so that instead of entering a numeric 
frequency, you could select the frequency in 1 MHz (VFO A) or 100 kHz 
(VFO B) steps. Tap FREQ ENT again to return to normal tuning.

Wayne
N6KR

On May 26, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Ken Kopp wrote:

 A ballistic tuning rate on my K3 would be below the
 bottom of my wish list.  (:-))

 It's faster to use the FREQ ENT method, if at all.

 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Assembly Question

2009-05-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dave,

Those pieces of equipment are entirely optional.  They are not 
required at all.  In fact the 1 mW level is only used if you include the 
KXV3 option.

The Power Meter can be used to obtain more accurate power calibration 
(but the K3 does a good job of it without that meter), and the signal 
generator is only used to obtain precise adjustment of the S-meter 
response - again, the stock S-meter response is adequate for most 
purposes - if you want a truly calibrated S-meter, then the generator 
can be used - the Elecraft XG2 will do that job nicely.

73,
Don W3FPR

Dave, W8OV wrote:
 I'm considering ordering a K3 kit soon.  I wonder how 'optional' these 
 items listed in the assembly manual really are:

 Optional Equipment:
 1.  RF Power Meter with accurate readout from 1 mW to 5 watts, minimum.
 2.  Signal generator with calibrated 50 uV output at 20 or 40 meters. 

 I have a Bird 43 wattmeter, but don't know of any element in the HF 
 range that would read 1 mW.

 --Dave, W8OV
   

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VFO Tuning Rates (alternative: via FREQ ENT)

2009-05-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
That would also drive me wild, but then I would not have to use it 
unless I selected it explicitly, so it is quite palatable to me.  
Remember the KISS principle - I object to my radio doing magic 
things for me.

73,
Don W3FPR

wayne burdick wrote:
 One idea already on the list is to have the VFO A and/or VFO B knobs be 
 live after you tap FREQ ENT, so that instead of entering a numeric 
 frequency, you could select the frequency in 1 MHz (VFO A) or 100 kHz 
 (VFO B) steps. Tap FREQ ENT again to return to normal tuning.

 Wayne
 N6KR

 On May 26, 2009, at 5:30 PM, Ken Kopp wrote:

   
 A ballistic tuning rate on my K3 would be below the
 bottom of my wish list.  (:-))

 It's faster to use the FREQ ENT method, if at all.

 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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  http://tinyurl.com/7lm3m5



 

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