Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request query?
Ah, okay Mike, I missed that this was already universally rejected by everybody... I assumed TenTec and Yeasu tried to implement this for a good reason, but weren't succesfull, and I had the illusion Elecraft could be the first to come up with a good solution. But ofcourse I won't stand up to a universally rejected idea. 73' Paul PD0PSB Paul, The QWERTY arrangement of keys on a keyboard was implemented in early typewriter days to slow typists down, so they wouldn't jam the type bars together. There have been schemes proposed since those days to re-arrange the keys for greater efficiency/speed, and those proposals have met with universal rejection. The point is, that no matter what the advantage, you're just not going to change some things. 73, Mike NF4L -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-feature-request-query-tp5186033p5190142.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 PLL Reference Osc. Range Test failed
Hi all, Just finished part II of the RF board assembly. (If it makes any difference, this is a ~6-year old never opened kit that I'm assembling, ser #5441, with the thermistor board mod and the PLL stability mod on the bottom of the board). PLL reference OSC stable at 12084.34Khz when in CAL FCTR mode and probe at TP3. But no deviation at all when using BAND+/- to check range. Haven't started to dive in yet - that's for tonight. Would appreciate suggestions on how/where to logically start troubleshooting this. 73 and thanks! Gil ab1jv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 - remember filter settings
Somewhere I pushed the wrong button. When I change modes (SSB to CW and nice-versa) the filter bandwidth is not retained. As an example I set the HI cut to 2.35 and the LO cut is at .15. If I change modes to CW and then go back to SSB the HI cut is at 2.70 and the LO cut is at .10. And if I change bands the same thing happens. My other K3 does not do this and operates properly. I can't find it so far in the manual. What do I do to correct? Tnx N2TK, Tony __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] LDG
For a moment, consider that what the LDG rep says may be true. I suspect that it is, given the incredible advertising promotional budgets that Icom and Yaesu apparently have from sales of their products. While Elecraft is clearly doing well and they're growing, it is also clear that these long-standing manufacturers (I,Y) are selling lots more radios. A quick Internet search shows that it is estimated that Icom USA (Note: This is USA only) has sales revenues on a yearly basis of between $50 million and $100 million. Then, add whatever Icom is doing in the rest of the world, and you begin to get the picture of how big these companies are in comparison. What this tells us is that while us K3 types are devoted and loyal, we're just a drop in the bucket of the world-wide amateur market compared to the big two. (Kenwood doesn't count until they come out with a real radio - then it once again may be the 'big 3'). 73, W5OV -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil LaMarche Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 2:20 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] LDG This was LDG's response to my email: Short sighted! The Elecraft market is very small compared to the rest of the HF market. Yes, it is big for the kit market, but still very little in caparison to the entire HF radio market. Most of the big manufacturers sell more of one radio model than all of the Elecraft radios ever sold (combining all models). Dwayne Kincaid LDG Philip LaMarche LaMarche Enterprises, Inc p...@lamarcheenterprises.com www.LaMarcheEnterprises.com http://www.lamarcheenterprises.com/ 727-944-3226 727-937-8834 Fax 727-510-5038 Cell www.w9dvm.com http://www.w9dvm.com/ K3 #1605 CCA 98-00827 CRA 1701 W9DVM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KREF3 External Reference Option: Detailed proposal
There appears to be more demand for this than we thought, so we're looking into it again. This is excellent news and I'm sure will be much appreciated, especially with the number of surplus Thunderbolt GPS and Rubidium 10MHz standards available at the moment. I have no idea of the amount of RD involved in producing this module but at which point in the development cycle would you expect to be by the end of this year 2010 ? 73 Trevor G0KTN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Problem on Linux Elecraft K3 Utility.
Hello all, when I try to edit CW Memories I get this: An exception of class OutOfBoundsException was not handled. The application must shut down. If I hit OK utility goes out. Any help will be welcome here. Best 73. CT1DRB David Quental __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 PLL Reference Osc. Range Test failed
Gil, Your troubleshooting should start in the middle. Monitor the voltage at RF board U5 pin 7 while in the CAL FCTR menu. You should see 4 volts there when you tap BAND+ and zero volts when you tap BAND-. If that does not happen, your problem will be found bact toward the microprocessor, but if the voltages are as expected, your problem lies in the forward direction, perhaps on the Thermistor board. Next check is at RF Board U6 pin 1. That should go to 8 volts when BAND+ is tapped and to near zero with BAND-. If that check fails, look for the problem on the thermistor board - usually a solder bridge - you can reach the back of the board if you remove the control board and front panel. If the test is OK, then move forward - check the soldering of R19, RP3 and D16 and D17, then monitor the voltage at RP3 pin 1 while doing the BAND button taps , repeat at RP3 pin 3. If you have a change from 8 volts to zero volts there, all should work - check the frequency at TP3 when tapping the BAND buttons. Report your progress (or lack thereof). Tell us where it works and where it does not. 73, Don W3FPR Gil Bishop wrote: Hi all, Just finished part II of the RF board assembly. (If it makes any difference, this is a ~6-year old never opened kit that I'm assembling, ser #5441, with the thermistor board mod and the PLL stability mod on the bottom of the board). PLL reference OSC stable at 12084.34Khz when in CAL FCTR mode and probe at TP3. But no deviation at all when using BAND+/- to check range. Haven't started to dive in yet - that's for tonight. Would appreciate suggestions on how/where to logically start troubleshooting this. 73 and thanks! Gil ab1jv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] technical support
I am not going to writte again about the K3,its enough said in this site but this time there is something I want to say about Elecraft technical support. A week ago by mistake I plug a mono plug at the speakers stereo jack at the rear without changing the config menu to 1 to avoy shorting out the stereo output of RX PA,so in less than a second I blew up that IC,next day called Elecraft,talked to Dale one of their tecs,and he sent me a new DSP board and charged me just the cost of the PA IC plus shiping to FL,bill was ONLY $14 USD,could you imagine if that happened to any of the JA radio brands? you surely will have to ship it to the depo to be repaired with a cost of about $200 among shiping,parts and labor,but because we are using an Elecraft radio from a company that definitively has the BEST technical support in this world,in just 2 days I had a brand new upgraded DSP board and with the help of my good friend Julio AD4Z who put together his K3 and knows more than me about assembly,last night my K3 was up and running even better than before. This is something to take in count when making your mind to buy a new radio.This is the one to have,thanks again to Elecraft,a great team of hams who work for hams.73 to all AD4C Lake Worth,FL K3 # 2192 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] technical support
Perhaps you were unaware of this mod: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/AF_Output_Mod_Rev_C.pdf I believe that it was specifically designed to protect against what you did for pre DEC '08 K3's. Is your's this old? It would be nice to know if this mod did not work for a newer K3. 73 de Brian/K3KO Hector Padron wrote: I am not going to writte again about the K3,its enough said in this site but this time there is something I want to say about Elecraft technical support. A week ago by mistake I plug a mono plug at the speakers stereo jack at the rear without changing the config menu to 1 to avoy shorting out the stereo output of RX PA,so in less than a second I blew up that IC,next day called Elecraft,talked to Dale one of their tecs,and he sent me a new DSP board and charged me just the cost of the PA IC plus shiping to FL,bill was ONLY $14 USD,could you imagine if that happened to any of the JA radio brands? you surely will have to ship it to the depo to be repaired with a cost of about $200 among shiping,parts and labor,but because we are using an Elecraft radio from a company that definitively has the BEST technical support in this world,in just 2 days I had a brand new upgraded DSP board and with the help of my good friend Julio AD4Z who put together his K3 and knows more than me about assembly,last night my K3 was up and running even better than before. This is something to take in count when making your mind to buy a new radio.This is the one to have,thanks again to Elecraft,a great team of hams who work for hams.73 to all AD4C Lake Worth,FL K3 # 2192 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] technical support
I agree with our good fortune in having such a responsive manufacturer that provides such excellent support. Addressing the specific issue of damage caused by inadvertently inserting a mono plug instead of a stereo one, is it feasible to develop a circuit modification that would eliminate the problem? Jim N7US -Original Message- A week ago by mistake I plug a mono plug at the speaker's stereo jack at the rear without changing the config menu to 1 to avoid shorting out the stereo output of RX PA, so in less than a second I blew up that IC. AD4C __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] technical support
Oops, I didn't realize that it had been fixed in January 2009. Jim N7US -Original Message- I agree with our good fortune in having such a responsive manufacturer that provides such excellent support. Addressing the specific issue of damage caused by inadvertently inserting a mono plug instead of a stereo one, is it feasible to develop a circuit modification that would eliminate the problem? Jim N7US __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] QRQ
The recent posts on QRQ CW and the new CW+ option on the K3 were of special interest to me. A few years ago,during the sunspot low, I decided to improve my CW skills as I could not hear much on the bands out here on Maui with no sunspots! I really got interested in QRQ as a consequence. Chuck, AA0HW, has set up two websites you all might find interesting: http://groups.google.com/group/i_cw?hl=en a site for sharing thoughts on QRQ in general and: http://groups.google.com/group/i_cw?hl=en a site dedicated to sending CW over the internet. This has been especially helpful to me out here on Maui where checking into the 40 meter nets in our early afternoon is challenging to say the least. Joe KH6/W3GW On 16 June, 2010 Jim wrote: Message: 5 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:54:57 -0500 From: Jim Miller KG0KP jimmil...@stl-online.net Subject: [Elecraft] QRQ To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 5c9cc09f5020499aac2633e2c472b...@hmjm500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 OK, Guys, I'm a newbe to ham(18 years) compared. And I have been avoiding CW until the past few months (after passing my 20 word test for my extra(16 years ago!)). This spring I started Triple Play to force myself to get serious on CW and it has been uphill all the way but I am gaining on it (still missing 15 states CW on LOTW). QRQ? High speed CW ?? OK, so how do you get to 60 or 100 WPM anyway? PC or at least keyboard input? I can't imagine accuracy for copyable code being input via paddle above maybe 40 wpm or so. Also, PC for decode even up to 100 wpm or is that by ear !!! ? Also, during the contests I sometimes hear cw going so fast all that is heard is thumping, there is no tone whatsoever being transmitted. Do I have something set wrong or are some radios prone to transmit like this? These are not close in stations (579 or so) so it shouldn't be overload and backing off the rf gain doesn't make it any different. Thanks, de Jim KG0KP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KTCXO3-1
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:07:58 -0700 (PDT), Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU le...@wa5znu.org wrote: Yes, that is true, but the rest of the advertisement that led to the sale of them (the auto temperature correction) has not been implemented. Which concerns me and others that bought them. That's one of the reasons I won't buy a P3 or any other major products until they have been shipping next day for at least a year and advertised functionality is complete. Don't get me wrong, I love my K3's but it would be nice if they had every feature advertised when I acquired them. Tom, N5GE K3 #806 with SUB RX, PR6, KRC2 and K144XV K3 #1055 with PR6 and XV432 W1, 2 W2's and other small kits QCWA Life Member 35102 n...@n5ge.com http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net I'm not a guru, but the TCXO is already implemented. The fraction-ppm performance that might be gained by using some software isn't there, but the TCXO itself is already more stable than the basic option. Leigh/WA5ZNU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX1 LED Display Issue
On a new build KX1 last night I noticed that when the LED went off as designed, there was a faint outline of 88 in the first two digits. I had not noticed this prior, but it was the first time I had used the KX1 in a very dark environment. I could set the LED to three levels as designed, the shut-off timer worked correctly, and I had fresh batteries (6 AA cells). Should I be concerned? CONFIDENTIAL: This electronic mail (including any attachments) may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or otherwise protected from disclosure to anyone other than its intended recipient(s). Any dissemination or use of this electronic email or its contents (including any attachments) by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply email so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original message (including any attachments) in its entirety. Thank you. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] LDG
After looking at the specs for the new LDG 600 watt tuner and their existing KW tuner, I bought the KW model for my Ameritron ALS-600. I need it to tune my 80 meter open-wire-fed dipole antenna on 80, 75, 60, 40, and 30 meters. I also have a hexagonal beam connected as antenna 2, but all of a sudden switching from my former MFJ tuner to the LDG has lowered the SWR on the hexagonal beam, so no tuning is needed. While quirky at times, the tuner does a good job. Once in a while it wants to retune on a previous frequency - I go a few khz up and force a memory recall and all is good. I initially tuned up on every 25 khz between 3.5 and 4 mhz, 7.0 and 7.3 mhz. My biggest wish is that the tuner would always fold the K3's power setting back to 30 watts when tuning is needed. Monty K2DLJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KTCXO3-1
Although I haven't changed the TCXO settings, after a very short warmup period, my K3 stays within 1.5 Hz or less, mostly within about 1/2 Hz with the main source of errors being what I assume are integer rounding errors in the frequency generation chain which shouldn't be affected by the auto temperature correction.; I have difficulty seeing this as a real issue but maybe I'm just lucky. I have memory settings so that I can quickly check 2.5, 5. 10, 15, and 20 MHz frequency standards and I'm close enough to WWV to not receive it by sky wave so multipath errors aren't a factor. My apologies if this offends you but as far as I'm concerned, this is another topic in the Much Ado About Nothing category. 73, Dunc, W5DC Radio Amateur N5GE wrote: On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:07:58 -0700 (PDT), Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU le...@wa5znu.org wrote: Yes, that is true, but the rest of the advertisement that led to the sale of them (the auto temperature correction) has not been implemented. Which concerns me and others that bought them. That's one of the reasons I won't buy a P3 or any other major products until they have been shipping next day for at least a year and advertised functionality is complete. Don't get me wrong, I love my K3's but it would be nice if they had every feature advertised when I acquired them. Tom, N5GE K3 #806 with SUB RX, PR6, KRC2 and K144XV K3 #1055 with PR6 and XV432 W1, 2 W2's and other small kits QCWA Life Member 35102 n...@n5ge.com http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net I'm not a guru, but the TCXO is already implemented. The fraction-ppm performance that might be gained by using some software isn't there, but the TCXO itself is already more stable than the basic option. Leigh/WA5ZNU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Low Pass Question
Well, after getting a handful of replies, I'm opting to NOT put the low pass filter in the line. Had totally forgotten about most of 'em having a cutoff at 30 MHz, and sooner or later I'm gonna give six meters a try. Thanks for the replies folks! 73, Jim / W6JHB -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Low-Pass-Question-tp5188094p5191570.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request query?
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 02:27:39 -0700 (PDT), pd0psb sailor...@hotmail.com wrote: In line... Ah, okay Mike, I missed that this was already universally rejected by everybody... I assumed TenTec and Yeasu tried to implement this for a good reason, but weren't succesfull, and I had the illusion Elecraft could be the first to come up with a good solution. But ofcourse I won't stand up to a universally rejected idea. 73' Paul PD0PSB Actually the keys are arranged according to the percentage of occurrence of each key in text communications, books etc. so that the most used letters were the easiest to reach. If you wish to continue this discussion with me please, let's do it through private emails, not on the reflector. Paul, The QWERTY arrangement of keys on a keyboard was implemented in early typewriter days to slow typists down, so they wouldn't jam the type bars together. There have been schemes proposed since those days to re-arrange the keys for greater efficiency/speed, and those proposals have met with universal rejection. The point is, that no matter what the advantage, you're just not going to change some things. 73, Mike NF4L Tom, N5GE Licensed since 1976 QCWA Life Member 35102 n...@n5ge.com http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] LDG
I will agree with the below email. I have a Ameritron ALS600 and an MFJ 998 autotuner. I bought this combo for use with my former TS850. When I purchased the K3, I continued to use the tuner, albeit with no rig control, as the tuner was connected to the TS850's tune button with a home made interface cable (which cost me $2, not the $60 that MFJ asks for the same thing). To tune when using the amp and the K3, I simply press and hold the XMIT button, after setting my tune power to 10 watts. The amp then makes about 40 watts and the tuner auto tunes. Pressing XMIT again concludes the tune cycle and away I go. I have it plugged into my secondary TS570D and it works with the tune button there like it did with the '850. I just implemented a $15 Radio Shack Video Switch to switch Foot Switch, Keyer paddles and Amp Trigger between the rigs. Works perfectly (tho I drool over the new Microham SO2R mini box!). The amp will eventually bandswitch using some Unified Microsystems decoders, but this is a future enhancement when I have time. The first '998 I received had a bad relay. HRO immediately sent me a new one, which then burned in powered on for three days with no issues. It has survived unscathed since then through many contests. I originally thought I would miss the tune button on the radio functionality, but with my somewhat resonant antennas (a Carolina Windom on 80/40 and WARC bands and an A3S on 20/15/10) I dont miss the feature. Just make sure and preset the MFJ by doing a tune cycle every 10kHz on all the bands I operate on and let it make noise for a while. Next time I operate there, it remembers the settings and if your antennas have not changed, the settings just take less than a second and one clack of the relays. Frankly, I am very pleased with the (knock on wood) reliability and performance of the MFJ998. It has been rock solid. I had a '993 before it and it too was rock solid. I had an LDG AT1000 that was horrible, so YMMV. Best MFJ devices I have ever owned. I will look into the new Elecraft autotuner in the P3 box. If it implements Kenwood protocol (for my backup rig's use) I may look into it, however, for the cost, the '998 is pretty hard to beat for what you get and how it works! Yeah, its kind of ugly, but it does work well. -lu-w4lt- Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:32:38 -0500 From: Bill K9YEQ k9...@live.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LDG To: 'Jack Brabham' k...@att.net, Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: blu138-ds10c04f17630a71ca39e11d9c...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I hesitate to add this reply: I have had the original LDG tuner for QRP... I forget which model. I had to replace the firmware chip and then things were better. Then I changed Qrp rigs but then the tuner didn't work so well. I upgrade and sold that unit... it didn't match in the same circumstances. I gave up. I tried several LDG units without success. I don't own any now. I have done SGC and similar result. Not much luck. I have better success with MFJ... can you believe that? The internal units in Elecraft units are superior to all. Cable lengths, antennas and all the rest of the stuff we deal with I like the Elecraft tuners. I am not happy they haven't delved into this market more with heavier duty stuff, but then I have what I need for now. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] LDG AND MFJ998
I'll add my endorsement of the MFJ998. Mine is located remotely in my garden shed so I never actually see it or hear it but it works as advertised. I swallowed hard before buying it but so far ( 2 months) it has not disappointed. I treat my system gently, rarely running over 500 watts from my THP HL-1.5 amp. Don K7FJ I will agree with the below email. I have a Ameritron ALS600 and an MFJ 998 autotuner. I bought this combo for use with my former TS850. When I purchased the K3, I continued to use the tuner, albeit with no rig control, as the tuner was connected to the TS850's tune button with a home made interface cable (which cost me $2, not the $60 that MFJ asks for the same thing). To tune when using the amp and the K3, I simply press and hold the XMIT button, after setting my tune power to 10 watts. The amp then makes about 40 watts and the tuner auto tunes. Pressing XMIT again concludes the tune cycle and away I go. I have it plugged into my secondary TS570D and it works with the tune button there like it did with the '850. I just implemented a $15 Radio Shack Video Switch to switch Foot Switch, Keyer paddles and Amp Trigger between the rigs. Works perfectly (tho I drool over the new Microham SO2R mini box!). The amp will eventually bandswitch using some Unified Microsystems decoders, but this is a future enhancement when I have time. The first '998 I received had a bad relay. HRO immediately sent me a new one, which then burned in powered on for three days with no issues. It has survived unscathed since then through many contests. I originally thought I would miss the tune button on the radio functionality, but with my somewhat resonant antennas (a Carolina Windom on 80/40 and WARC bands and an A3S on 20/15/10) I dont miss the feature. Just make sure and preset the MFJ by doing a tune cycle every 10kHz on all the bands I operate on and let it make noise for a while. Next time I operate there, it remembers the settings and if your antennas have not changed, the settings just take less than a second and one clack of the relays. Frankly, I am very pleased with the (knock on wood) reliability and performance of the MFJ998. It has been rock solid. I had a '993 before it and it too was rock solid. I had an LDG AT1000 that was horrible, so YMMV. Best MFJ devices I have ever owned. I will look into the new Elecraft autotuner in the P3 box. If it implements Kenwood protocol (for my backup rig's use) I may look into it, however, for the cost, the '998 is pretty hard to beat for what you get and how it works! Yeah, its kind of ugly, but it does work well. -lu-w4lt- Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:32:38 -0500 From: Bill K9YEQ k9...@live.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LDG To: 'Jack Brabham' k...@att.net, Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: blu138-ds10c04f17630a71ca39e11d9c...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I hesitate to add this reply: I have had the original LDG tuner for QRP... I forget which model. I had to replace the firmware chip and then things were better. Then I changed Qrp rigs but then the tuner didn't work so well. I upgrade and sold that unit... it didn't match in the same circumstances. I gave up. I tried several LDG units without success. I don't own any now. I have done SGC and similar result. Not much luck. I have better success with MFJ... can you believe that? The internal units in Elecraft units are superior to all. Cable lengths, antennas and all the rest of the stuff we deal with I like the Elecraft tuners. I am not happy they haven't delved into this market more with heavier duty stuff, but then I have what I need for now. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request query? scalable IF gain/AGC threshold
If you wish to continue this discussion with me please, let's do it through private emails, not on the reflector. Tom, I'v sent you the qwerty link privately. But this topic was about a query, not qwerty :-) The query was about a scalable IF gain/AGC threshold, compensating the higher bandnoiselevels on the lower bands (see first two posts) 73' Paul PD0PSB -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-feature-request-query-tp5186033p5191839.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 LED Display Issue
No worries about that. Ease your mind, that is normal, but only seen when the ambient light is VERY low. 73, Don W3FPR Schindele, William wrote: On a new build KX1 last night I noticed that when the LED went off as designed, there was a faint outline of 88 in the first two digits. I had not noticed this prior, but it was the first time I had used the KX1 in a very dark environment. I could set the LED to three levels as designed, the shut-off timer worked correctly, and I had fresh batteries (6 AA cells). Should I be concerned? CONFIDENTIAL: This electronic mail (including any attachments) may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or otherwise protected from disclosure to anyone other than its intended recipient(s). Any dissemination or use of this electronic email or its contents (including any attachments) by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply email so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original message (including any attachments) in its entirety. Thank you. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft KAT500 (was Auto Tuner)
Great news and I would second Don, WB5HAK, suggestion of an internal antenna switch for the K# without the tuner. Any guidance on price levels, particularly for the external tuner? Pre-order list? Cheers, Julius - Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3#1875 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-KAT500-was-Auto-Tuner-tp5188575p5191863.html Sent from the [QRO] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request query? scalable IF gain/AGC threshold
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:12:53 -0700 (PDT), pd0psb sailor...@hotmail.com wrote: Paul, Thank you for the correction. After reading the wiki link I realized that my graphic artist and typesetter father was wrong when he told me that! BT 73 ES GUD LUK DE N5GE, QCWA LIFE MEMBER 35102 AR SK n...@n5ge.com http://www.n5ge.com If you wish to continue this discussion with me please, let's do it through private emails, not on the reflector. Tom, I'v sent you the qwerty link privately. But this topic was about a query, not qwerty :-) The query was about a scalable IF gain/AGC threshold, compensating the higher bandnoiselevels on the lower bands (see first two posts) 73' Paul PD0PSB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Q
Way too early for that. My best guess is probably some time Q1 of this next year. 73, Eric WA6HHQ On 6/17/2010 10:19 AM, Julius Fazekas n2wn wrote: Any guidance on price levels, particularly for the external tuner? Pre-order list? Cheers, Julius - Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KTCXO3-1
So you bought the TCXO because you wanted to be able to say that it was further temperature compensated by firmware? Because what was promised was that it would get to 0.5PPM via additional firmware correction. Well it turns out that the oscillators already do that out of the box. Thus implementing even further enhancement got moved very low on the list because people were already receiving that which they were promised. At the moment there are MANY things that the P3 will be able to do that are yet to be promised. You can easily tell by looking at the back of one at a hamfest. There is a VGA connector port, a USB Keyboard port, and a port to accept a W2 sensor... Think of all the possibilities that can come from this. Not to mention.. Think of all the features that have come to the K3 that weren't promised! I'd hope that you purchased the TCXO so that you could have 0.5PPM rather than 5PPM accuracy on your reference You can be comforted if that is the case as you are actually getting exactly what you paid for. ~Brett (N7MG) On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Radio Amateur N5GE n...@n5ge.com wrote: On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 16:07:58 -0700 (PDT), Leigh L. Klotz Jr WA5ZNU le...@wa5znu.org wrote: Yes, that is true, but the rest of the advertisement that led to the sale of them (the auto temperature correction) has not been implemented. Which concerns me and others that bought them. That's one of the reasons I won't buy a P3 or any other major products until they have been shipping next day for at least a year and advertised functionality is complete. Don't get me wrong, I love my K3's but it would be nice if they had every feature advertised when I acquired them. Tom, N5GE K3 #806 with SUB RX, PR6, KRC2 and K144XV K3 #1055 with PR6 and XV432 W1, 2 W2's and other small kits QCWA Life Member 35102 n...@n5ge.com http://www.n5ge.com http://www.swotrc.net I'm not a guru, but the TCXO is already implemented. The fraction-ppm performance that might be gained by using some software isn't there, but the TCXO itself is already more stable than the basic option. Leigh/WA5ZNU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware updating
I encountered an interesting situation building a new control panel box for my station that controls all the radio equipment: antenna relays, preamps, transverters, amplifiers and switches between two radios: FT-847 and the K3/10. I used opto-isolators to separate the radio side from the computer. Specifically using the RTS and DTR lines of RS-232 to control PTT and keying functions used by a lot of ham sw. I was surprised to discover that the RS-232 levels caused the opto-isolators to activate on both LO and HI levels. Apparently, they did not like the -11vdc LO logic level. I bypassed the opto-isolator direct to 2N relay drivers with no issues. What this has to do with the current thread is I have two computers that I like to use with the radios (one computer runs old DOS-based programs) so I route the RS-232 lines thru a four-port parallel switch that has sub-D25 pin connectors. I was concerned that serial would not be passed but on inspecting the switch the connectors are connected pin-for-pin so it is transparent to whatever is connected. I use standard serial cables with sub-D25 to sub-D9. One more comment: I had to add some wiring to support RXD and TXD in another HB A-B switch so that downloads would pass to the K3. The HB switch is wired with twisted pair stripped from cat-5e cable. 73, Ed - KL7UW haven't uploaded either the new firmware or editor (soon) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:06:34 -0400 From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware updating To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 4c18f68a.8090...@subich.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Or do you mean the RS232 control lines? If so, and the device gets powered down, doesn't it's hold on the control lines go away??? No, with no power applied to RS-232 devices - whether it be a computer serial port, MK2R+, MKII, or the K3 the unpowered lines will load the other lines so they will not work properly. Without special circuits, it is not possible to connect two drivers to a single RS-232 port at the same time. The best solution is the two port RS-232 switch. Note, updating with K3 is a special case since the K3 does not require the use of handshake signals for updating. Other rigs require handshake between their update software and the rig. Since application controlled handshake is not supported AT ALL by any microHAM interface, any upload capability is out of the question for other rigs. 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America, LLC. http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 144-600w, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-fall 2010 DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KAT500
G'day, Remote version some thoughts: Power feed and signalling up the coax Integrated remote antenna switch Regards, Mike VP8NO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KTCXO3-1
Brett is correct in that we ultimately determined that the TCXO3-1 parts already met our 0.5ppm spec, so additional temperature correction in f/w was not necessary. We only planned on using the f/w correction if we needed it to get to the 0.5ppm level. I apologize if we have not made this clear. We could possibly add even more temperature correction via firmware, but this is a low priority project that may not happen in the near future. It involves a fair amount of time to code and to test. For even more frequency control, we are focusing on theK3 external reference board for those that want to lock to their external freq standards. 73, Eric WA6HHQ On 6/17/2010 11:37 AM, Brett Howard wrote: So you bought the TCXO because you wanted to be able to say that it was further temperature compensated by firmware? Because what was promised was that it would get to 0.5PPM via additional firmware correction. Well it turns out that the oscillators already do that out of the box. Thus implementing even further enhancement got moved very low on the list because people were already receiving that which they were promised. ... I'd hope that you purchased the TCXO so that you could have 0.5PPM rather than 5PPM accuracy on your reference You can be comforted if that is the case as you are actually getting exactly what you paid for. ~Brett (N7MG) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Q
FB Eric, will watch for future announcements... Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html http://groups.google.com/group/tcg1?hl=en Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3/100 #1875 --- On Thu, 6/17/10, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft e...@elecraft.com wrote: From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft e...@elecraft.com Subject: Q To: Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 2:35 PM Way too early for that. My best guess is probably some time Q1 of this next year. 73, Eric WA6HHQ On 6/17/2010 10:19 AM, Julius Fazekas n2wn wrote: Any guidance on price levels, particularly for the external tuner? Pre-order list? Cheers, Julius - Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500
Hi Mike, This looks like it went to me only, you may want to confirm it went to the reflector. Sounds like a couple good ideas! 73, Julius Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html http://groups.google.com/group/tcg1?hl=en Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3/100 #1875 --- On Thu, 6/17/10, Mike Harris [via Elecraft] ml-node+5192286-1497942054-38...@n2.nabble.com wrote: From: Mike Harris [via Elecraft] ml-node+5192286-1497942054-38...@n2.nabble.com Subject: KAT500 To: Julius Fazekas n2wn phriend...@yahoo.com Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 2:53 PM G'day, Remote version some thoughts: Power feed and signalling up the coax Integrated remote antenna switch Regards, Mike VP8NO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html View message @ http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-KAT500-was-Auto-Tuner-tp5188575p5192286.html To unsubscribe from Re: Elecraft KAT500 (was Auto Tuner), click here. - Julius Fazekas N2WN Tennessee Contest Group http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html Tennessee QSO Party http://www.tnqp.org/ Elecraft K2/100 #4455 Elecraft K3/100 #366 Elecraft K3#1875 -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Elecraft-KAT500-was-Auto-Tuner-tp5188575p5192322.html Sent from the [QRO] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KTCXO3-1
To get to the next significant level of precision, that's a reasonable priority. Even though the new reference board may not resolve to the precision offered by a rubidium or GPS-DO standard, at least there's comfort in knowing that lock is occurring to such a unit and that excellent precision is being attained without having to validate against WWV, CHU, JJY, etc. Confirmation of continuous or periodic lock on the K3's LCD display would be a useful addition. Paul, W9AC For even more frequency control, we are focusing on theK3 external reference board for those that want to lock to their external freq standards. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KX1 LED Display Issue
Thanks ever so much for the response Don. Bill KJ6BVV -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:17 AM To: Schindele, William Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 LED Display Issue No worries about that. Ease your mind, that is normal, but only seen when the ambient light is VERY low. 73, Don W3FPR Schindele, William wrote: On a new build KX1 last night I noticed that when the LED went off as designed, there was a faint outline of 88 in the first two digits. I had not noticed this prior, but it was the first time I had used the KX1 in a very dark environment. I could set the LED to three levels as designed, the shut-off timer worked correctly, and I had fresh batteries (6 AA cells). Should I be concerned? CONFIDENTIAL: This electronic mail (including any attachments) may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and/or otherwise protected from disclosure to anyone other than its intended recipient(s). Any dissemination or use of this electronic email or its contents (including any attachments) by persons other than the intended recipient(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by reply email so that we may correct our internal records. Please then delete the original message (including any attachments) in its entirety. Thank you. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] LDG
First off my K3/10 is what most consider QRP. I use a used MFJ-945E tuner on 80-6m (also used when I ran my FT-847 on HF). Supposedly rated to 300w (?) but I do not have anything that runs that high built. But, mainly, I want to respond to the K3 types are devoted and loyal, we're just a drop in the bucket of the world-wide amateur market statement. Really? Then why do I run into all these K3 owners on the many e-mail reflectors, I inhabit? I can say the K3 is very well though of and gaining popularity with the VHF+, EME, and microwave crowd! To say they are in the lead for ultimate weak-signal operations, and the K3 is considered one of the best (if not the best) for that. and that is why I own one. 73, Ed - KL7uW hint uW = microwave -- Message: 43 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:14:31 -0500 From: Bob Naumann w...@w5ov.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LDG To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 013701cb0e1f$05dd5f00$11981d...@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII For a moment, consider that what the LDG rep says may be true. I suspect that it is, given the incredible advertising promotional budgets that Icom and Yaesu apparently have from sales of their products. While Elecraft is clearly doing well and they're growing, it is also clear that these long-standing manufacturers (I,Y) are selling lots more radios. A quick Internet search shows that it is estimated that Icom USA (Note: This is USA only) has sales revenues on a yearly basis of between $50 million and $100 million. Then, add whatever Icom is doing in the rest of the world, and you begin to get the picture of how big these companies are in comparison. What this tells us is that while us K3 types are devoted and loyal, we're just a drop in the bucket of the world-wide amateur market compared to the big two. (Kenwood doesn't count until they come out with a real radio - then it once again may be the 'big 3'). 73, W5OV 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 144-600w, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-fall 2010 DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Clock
With all the functions admirably performed by my K3 why is the clock so inaccurate. It looses time with startling glee and, considering WWV/WWV-H are just a buttom push away, you'd think there would be some way to connect the two the clock to the source. While I am certainly not the only one to make note of this flaw in an otherwise functional phenominon, I hope some remedy can be provided. At least to lessen the error which develops over as short a period as two hours. John, KE6GFF/T6EE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Used [K2] For Sale in G Land.
Hi all, I'm putting my K2 (Serial No. 2448) up for sale on here, as I've not been able to play radio for a few years now and I'd like to see it go to a good shack! Quite frankly, I'd like to use the funds raised to build up a workbecnh and start homebrewing my own gear. Details are below and full details can be sourced from the Elecraft site. Elecraft K2: £800 O.N.O. (Serial No: 2448) == NB: Buying all the kits new costs just over £1,000! Included: - Fully Built 80-10m 15W CW Rig with SSB adapter, Audio Filter and Internal 20W Auto ATU. - Electret Fist Microphone, power lead and carry case. - Manual and associated extra module information. Pictures: http://radarc.org/for_sale_files/2e1lok/P5140002%20K2.JPG http://radarc.org/for_sale_files/2e1lok/P5140008%20K2%20Open.JPG Notes: Tested and working in good condition, with some marks and scratches of character from cherished use. The rig was built by me and has worked as far as Australia (when I was in the shack at university)! The firmware has been updated to revision 2. Please reply off list if your interested. 72 Nick 2E1LOK / GQRP 11458 / K2 #2448 P.S.: May get a K3 or K4(?) in another 20 years! HI! _ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/ We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500
One more thought: Ability to tune balanced antennas On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:52:57 -0400 Mike Harris mike.har...@cwimail.fk wrote: G'day, Remote version some thoughts: Power feed and signalling up the coax Integrated remote antenna switch Regards, Mike VP8NO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider. http://www.nni.com/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] LDG
You can't argue with the numbers. And while Eric and company would like to be a $100 million company, I think they have some way to go to reach that level. The reason you run into others with the K3 is that you are here in the U.S. and many of those folks are like-minded with you and I, looking for the best performing radio available. Remember, there are a lot of people who are not even aware of the K3 and only consider I/Y/K radios. None of what I said in any way should be construed to be negative about the K3 - it's just that the number of them sold in no way compares to what Icom and Yaesu (and Kenwood) sell world-wide. $100 million in K3 terms = about 25,000 of them annually. We all know that there are not even close to 25,000 K3's out there. As further evidence of my personal perspective, my K3 occupies the spot where my 756Pro3 used to be and I have no regrets. In fact, I just used it for the first time on 6m last weekend in the VHF test and it worked very well - even without the optional preamp on 6m. 73, Bob W5OV First off my K3/10 is what most consider QRP. I use a used MFJ-945E tuner on 80-6m (also used when I ran my FT-847 on HF). Supposedly rated to 300w (?) but I do not have anything that runs that high built. But, mainly, I want to respond to the K3 types are devoted and loyal, we're just a drop in the bucket of the world-wide amateur market statement. Really? Then why do I run into all these K3 owners on the many e-mail reflectors, I inhabit? I can say the K3 is very well though of and gaining popularity with the VHF+, EME, and microwave crowd! To say they are in the lead for ultimate weak-signal operations, and the K3 is considered one of the best (if not the best) for that. and that is why I own one. 73, Ed - KL7uW hint uW = microwave -- Message: 43 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:14:31 -0500 From: Bob Naumann w...@w5ov.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LDG To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 013701cb0e1f$05dd5f00$11981d...@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII For a moment, consider that what the LDG rep says may be true. I suspect that it is, given the incredible advertising promotional budgets that Icom and Yaesu apparently have from sales of their products. While Elecraft is clearly doing well and they're growing, it is also clear that these long-standing manufacturers (I,Y) are selling lots more radios. A quick Internet search shows that it is estimated that Icom USA (Note: This is USA only) has sales revenues on a yearly basis of between $50 million and $100 million. Then, add whatever Icom is doing in the rest of the world, and you begin to get the picture of how big these companies are in comparison. What this tells us is that while us K3 types are devoted and loyal, we're just a drop in the bucket of the world-wide amateur market compared to the big two. (Kenwood doesn't count until they come out with a real radio - then it once again may be the 'big 3'). 73, W5OV 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 144-600w, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-fall 2010 DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Clock
Same problem here and a replacement crystal did nothing to correct the problem. Mel, K6KBE --- On Thu, 6/17/10, John j...@t6ee.com wrote: From: John j...@t6ee.com Subject: [Elecraft] Clock To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Thursday, June 17, 2010, 12:07 PM With all the functions admirably performed by my K3 why is the clock so inaccurate. It looses time with startling glee and, considering WWV/WWV-H are just a buttom push away, you'd think there would be some way to connect the two the clock to the source. While I am certainly not the only one to make note of this flaw in an otherwise functional phenominon, I hope some remedy can be provided. At least to lessen the error which develops over as short a period as two hours. John, KE6GFF/T6EE __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KTCXO3-1
I would like to be able to calibrate it according the manual and Method 3 73 de M0XDF -- Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910) On 17 Jun 2010, at 19:37, Brett Howard wrote: So you bought the TCXO because you wanted to be able to say that it was further temperature compensated by firmware? Because what was promised was that it would get to 0.5PPM via additional firmware correction. Well it turns out that the oscillators already do that out of the box. Thus implementing even further enhancement got moved very low on the list because people were already receiving that which they were promised. At the moment there are MANY things that the P3 will be able to do that are yet to be promised. You can easily tell by looking at the back of one at a hamfest. There is a VGA connector port, a USB Keyboard port, and a port to accept a W2 sensor... Think of all the possibilities that can come from this. Not to mention.. Think of all the features that have come to the K3 that weren't promised! I'd hope that you purchased the TCXO so that you could have 0.5PPM rather than 5PPM accuracy on your reference You can be comforted if that is the case as you are actually getting exactly what you paid for. ~Brett (N7MG) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KTCXO3-1
You can input the information via the K3 utility. It is then stored in the radio... ~Brett On Jun 17, 2010 1:16 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote: I would like to be able to calibrate it according the manual and Method 3 73 de M0XDF -- Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910) On 17 Jun 2010, at 19:37, Brett Howard wrote: So you bought the TCXO because you wanted to be able to say that it was further temperature compensated by firmware? Because what was promised was that it would get to 0.5PPM via additional firmware correction. Well it turns out that the oscillators already do that out of the box. Thus implementing even further enhancement got moved very low on the list because people were already receiving that which they were promised. At the moment there are MANY things that the P3 will be able to do that are yet to be promised. You can easily tell by looking at the back of one at a hamfest. There is a VGA connector port, a USB Keyboard port, and a port to accept a W2 sensor... Think of all the possibilities that can come from this. Not to mention.. Think of all the features that have come to the K3 that weren't promised! I'd hope that you purchased the TCXO so that you could have 0.5PPM rather than 5PPM accuracy on your reference You can be comforted if that is the case as you are actually getting exactly what you paid for. ~Brett (N7MG) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Heil Goldline on K3
Has anyone used a Heil Goldline mic with a K3? I would like to use the Heil with my soon-to-arrive K3. It works great with my soon-to-be-replaced Drake TR7A. I was just wondering whether I should invest in another adapter cable. Robert N9EF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] LDG
Actually the K3 can sell a LOT less than 100Million and be on par with the number of IKY's sold. While Elecraft is a Ham Radio only organization IKY make a lot of money selling communications products to completely unrelated sectors. ~Brett On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:32 PM, w...@w5ov.com wrote: You can't argue with the numbers. And while Eric and company would like to be a $100 million company, I think they have some way to go to reach that level. The reason you run into others with the K3 is that you are here in the U.S. and many of those folks are like-minded with you and I, looking for the best performing radio available. Remember, there are a lot of people who are not even aware of the K3 and only consider I/Y/K radios. None of what I said in any way should be construed to be negative about the K3 - it's just that the number of them sold in no way compares to what Icom and Yaesu (and Kenwood) sell world-wide. $100 million in K3 terms = about 25,000 of them annually. We all know that there are not even close to 25,000 K3's out there. As further evidence of my personal perspective, my K3 occupies the spot where my 756Pro3 used to be and I have no regrets. In fact, I just used it for the first time on 6m last weekend in the VHF test and it worked very well - even without the optional preamp on 6m. 73, Bob W5OV First off my K3/10 is what most consider QRP. I use a used MFJ-945E tuner on 80-6m (also used when I ran my FT-847 on HF). Supposedly rated to 300w (?) but I do not have anything that runs that high built. But, mainly, I want to respond to the K3 types are devoted and loyal, we're just a drop in the bucket of the world-wide amateur market statement. Really? Then why do I run into all these K3 owners on the many e-mail reflectors, I inhabit? I can say the K3 is very well though of and gaining popularity with the VHF+, EME, and microwave crowd! To say they are in the lead for ultimate weak-signal operations, and the K3 is considered one of the best (if not the best) for that. and that is why I own one. 73, Ed - KL7uW hint uW = microwave -- Message: 43 Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:14:31 -0500 From: Bob Naumann w...@w5ov.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LDG To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 013701cb0e1f$05dd5f00$11981d...@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII For a moment, consider that what the LDG rep says may be true. I suspect that it is, given the incredible advertising promotional budgets that Icom and Yaesu apparently have from sales of their products. While Elecraft is clearly doing well and they're growing, it is also clear that these long-standing manufacturers (I,Y) are selling lots more radios. A quick Internet search shows that it is estimated that Icom USA (Note: This is USA only) has sales revenues on a yearly basis of between $50 million and $100 million. Then, add whatever Icom is doing in the rest of the world, and you begin to get the picture of how big these companies are in comparison. What this tells us is that while us K3 types are devoted and loyal, we're just a drop in the bucket of the world-wide amateur market compared to the big two. (Kenwood doesn't count until they come out with a real radio - then it once again may be the 'big 3'). 73, W5OV 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 144-600w, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-fall 2010 DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Wish List -Internal Frequency Standard
It would be nice to have a built-in frequency standard that receives its signal from WWV and maybe other known time signals around the world. This frequency standard might also provide the source for an accurate clock in the K3. I'm dreaming---just a thought! Roy W4WFB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Heil Goldline on K3
Yep just get the Kenwood adapter cable and it'll plug right in and work like a champ! ~Brett (N7MG) On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Robert Mitilieri rc...@yahoo.com wrote: Has anyone used a Heil Goldline mic with a K3? I would like to use the Heil with my soon-to-arrive K3. It works great with my soon-to-be-replaced Drake TR7A. I was just wondering whether I should invest in another adapter cable. Robert N9EF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Heil Goldline on K3
The goldline mic works great on the K3. If you are going to use it on the FP connection you will need the kenwood heil adapter or roll your own. If using the RP mic connector you can just terminate using a 3.5mm stereo plug with mic+ on the tip and mic- on the sleeve. If you want to use the mic's PTT then you will need those to lines to an RCA plug for the back of the K3 too. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Thu Jun 17 13:55 , Robert Mitilieri sent: Has anyone used a Heil Goldline mic with a K3? I would like to use the Heil with my soon-to-arrive K3. It works great with my soon-to-be-replaced Drake TR7A. I was just wondering whether I should invest in another adapter cable. Robert N9EF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net','','','')Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KTCXO3-1
Is it then used - I thought I saw a post saying you can input it, but it's not used. And I wonder if that works in the OSX version ? 73 de M0XDF -- As a well spent day brings happy sleep, so life well used brings happy death. -Leonardo da Vinci, painter, engineer, musician, and scientist (1452-1519) On 17 Jun 2010, at 21:46, Brett Howard wrote: You can input the information via the K3 utility. It is then stored in the radio... ~Brett On Jun 17, 2010 1:16 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote: I would like to be able to calibrate it according the manual and Method 3 73 de M0XDF -- Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910) On 17 Jun 2010, at 19:37, Brett Howard wrote: So you bought the TCXO because you wanted to be able to say that it was further temperature compensated by firmware? Because what was promised was that it would get to 0.5PPM via additional firmware correction. Well it turns out that the oscillators already do that out of the box. Thus implementing even further enhancement got moved very low on the list because people were already receiving that which they were promised. At the moment there are MANY things that the P3 will be able to do that are yet to be promised. You can easily tell by looking at the back of one at a hamfest. There is a VGA connector port, a USB Keyboard port, and a port to accept a W2 sensor... Think of all the possibilities that can come from this. Not to mention.. Think of all the features that have come to the K3 that weren't promised! I'd hope that you purchased the TCXO so that you could have 0.5PPM rather than 5PPM accuracy on your reference You can be comforted if that is the case as you are actually getting exactly what you paid for. ~Brett (N7MG) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KTCXO3-1
You said you wanted to be able to calibrate it via the data that came with the device. You can calibrate it by inputting the data to the radio and you will get the 0.5PPM accuracy you were promised. Does that mean that the data is used? No. But you CAN input it and you WILL get the accuracy you paid for. ~Brett (N7MG) On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:10 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote: Is it then used - I thought I saw a post saying you can input it, but it's not used. And I wonder if that works in the OSX version ? 73 de M0XDF -- As a well spent day brings happy sleep, so life well used brings happy death. -Leonardo da Vinci, painter, engineer, musician, and scientist (1452-1519) On 17 Jun 2010, at 21:46, Brett Howard wrote: You can input the information via the K3 utility. It is then stored in the radio... ~Brett On Jun 17, 2010 1:16 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote: I would like to be able to calibrate it according the manual and Method 3 73 de M0XDF -- Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910) On 17 Jun 2010, at 19:37, Brett Howard wrote: So you bought the TCXO because you wanted to be able to say that it was further temperature compensated by firmware? Because what was promised was that it would get to 0.5PPM via additional firmware correction. Well it turns out that the oscillators already do that out of the box. Thus implementing even further enhancement got moved very low on the list because people were already receiving that which they were promised. At the moment there are MANY things that the P3 will be able to do that are yet to be promised. You can easily tell by looking at the back of one at a hamfest. There is a VGA connector port, a USB Keyboard port, and a port to accept a W2 sensor... Think of all the possibilities that can come from this. Not to mention.. Think of all the features that have come to the K3 that weren't promised! I'd hope that you purchased the TCXO so that you could have 0.5PPM rather than 5PPM accuracy on your reference You can be comforted if that is the case as you are actually getting exactly what you paid for. ~Brett (N7MG) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KTCXO3-1
It may be stored, but it isn't used. Hardly matters. It's a radio sold to amateur radio operators for use as a radio, not a NIST field office. My suspicion is that if this feature were implemented, we'd have the entire cadre of guys who insist on measuring everything measuring the radio in an oven and endlessly griping because it STILL wasn't precisely accurate at 22.567 deg C, and probably arguing among themselves over who had the most accurate proof of the problem ... :-) Yikes! Grant/NQ5T On Jun 17, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Brett Howard wrote: You can input the information via the K3 utility. It is then stored in the radio... ~Brett On Jun 17, 2010 1:16 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote: I would like to be able to calibrate it according the manual and Method 3 73 de M0XDF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Wish List -Internal Frequency Standard
You're not dreaming -- you're delusional :-) On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:04 PM, Roy Morris wrote: I'm dreaming--- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KTCXO3-1
The current OS X version of Utility does not have the feature. YOu have to use the Win(doze) version. The RADIO -- you know, the K3 -- does not support Mode 3 calibration. You can key anything in there you like -- your mom's birthday, lucky numbers, the angular momentum of Uranus, or even the data sheet from Elecraft.It won't matter, and won't affect the radio calibration accuracy. Grant/NQ5T On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:10 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Is it then used - I thought I saw a post saying you can input it, but it's not used. And I wonder if that works in the OSX version ?nate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KTCXO3-1
Brett, I think after all this time, I may have misunderstood the Reference Oscillator calibration instructions. I had always read the following: Reference Oscillator The K3’s reference oscillator is a TCXO, or temperature-compensated crystal oscillator. It is normally calibrated at assembly time or by the factory. There are two types: 5 ppm and 1 ppm. Either TCXO can be calibrated using an accurate frequency counter (Method 1), or by zero-beating the sidetone against a reference signal (Method 2). Accuracy of the 1 ppm TCXO can be improved by entering the supplied calibration data (Method 3). Be sure to keep the data sheet that was supplied with the oscillator. As meaning there were 3 methods of calibrating the frequency, but now I think there are only 2 ways to calibrate it, plus the possibility of improving the stability (method 3). I'm happy that it's very stable, but not sure I did a good job on the frequency. I don't have a frequency counter and did the best I could to zero-beat it. so thanks for your comments, they have helped me understand this better. 73 de M0XDF -- It is not how old you are, but how you are old. -Jules Renard, writer (1864-1910) On 17 Jun 2010, at 22:13, Brett Howard wrote: You said you wanted to be able to calibrate it via the data that came with the device. You can calibrate it by inputting the data to the radio and you will get the 0.5PPM accuracy you were promised. Does that mean that the data is used? No. But you CAN input it and you WILL get the accuracy you paid for. ~Brett (N7MG) On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:10 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote: Is it then used - I thought I saw a post saying you can input it, but it's not used. And I wonder if that works in the OSX version ? 73 de M0XDF -- As a well spent day brings happy sleep, so life well used brings happy death. -Leonardo da Vinci, painter, engineer, musician, and scientist (1452-1519) On 17 Jun 2010, at 21:46, Brett Howard wrote: You can input the information via the K3 utility. It is then stored in the radio... ~Brett On Jun 17, 2010 1:16 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote: I would like to be able to calibrate it according the manual and Method 3 73 de M0XDF -- Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910) On 17 Jun 2010, at 19:37, Brett Howard wrote: So you bought the TCXO because you wanted to be able to say that it was further temperature compensated by firmware? Because what was promised was that it would get to 0.5PPM via additional firmware correction. Well it turns out that the oscillators already do that out of the box. Thus implementing even further enhancement got moved very low on the list because people were already receiving that which they were promised. At the moment there are MANY things that the P3 will be able to do that are yet to be promised. You can easily tell by looking at the back of one at a hamfest. There is a VGA connector port, a USB Keyboard port, and a port to accept a W2 sensor... Think of all the possibilities that can come from this. Not to mention.. Think of all the features that have come to the K3 that weren't promised! I'd hope that you purchased the TCXO so that you could have 0.5PPM rather than 5PPM accuracy on your reference You can be comforted if that is the case as you are actually getting exactly what you paid for. ~Brett (N7MG) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KAT500
See http://fermi.la.asu.edu/w9cf/articles/balun.pdf by one of our intrepid qrp foxes (W9CF) for an excellent technical discussion of balun placement and requirements. See http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf (K9YC's paper) which includes excellent recipes for baluns. A balun of proper design, dimensions and impedance on the output of a tuner will allow for balanced antenna operation. 73 jim ab3cv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Heil Goldline on K3
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:55:30 -0500, Robert Mitilieri wrote: whether I should invest in another adapter cable. Own a soldering iron? Why not (gasp!) MAKE an adapter cable? 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KTCXO3-1
Thats a feature. No matter what you enter you'll always get the 0.5PPM that you paid for. ;) ~Brett On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Grant Youngman n...@tx.rr.com wrote: The current OS X version of Utility does not have the feature. YOu have to use the Win(doze) version. The RADIO -- you know, the K3 -- does not support Mode 3 calibration. You can key anything in there you like -- your mom's birthday, lucky numbers, the angular momentum of Uranus, or even the data sheet from Elecraft. It won't matter, and won't affect the radio calibration accuracy. Grant/NQ5T On Jun 17, 2010, at 4:10 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Is it then used - I thought I saw a post saying you can input it, but it's not used. And I wonder if that works in the OSX version ?nate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KTCXO3-1
Understood. That makes a lot more sense. I'd bet you probably did better than you think but I understand the FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and/or Doubt) that you may have messed it up. Perhaps you could borrow a MFJ259B from a local club or elmer to get the job done. I used the zero beat function and then later brought home my Agilent MSO6104 scope (as they have hardware frequency counters in them) and found that I was only off by a few Hz. Honestly the main thing is that when you call some one they answer you. In certain modes that can become a much more difficult task but I think if you were running into that issue you'd know... ~Brett (N7MG) On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:37 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote: Brett, I think after all this time, I may have misunderstood the Reference Oscillator calibration instructions. I had always read the following: Reference Oscillator The K3’s reference oscillator is a TCXO, or temperature-compensated crystal oscillator. It is normally calibrated at assembly time or by the factory. There are two types: 5 ppm and 1 ppm. Either TCXO can be calibrated using an accurate frequency counter (Method 1), or by zero-beating the sidetone against a reference signal (Method 2). Accuracy of the 1 ppm TCXO can be improved by entering the supplied calibration data (Method 3). Be sure to keep the data sheet that was supplied with the oscillator. As meaning there were 3 methods of calibrating the frequency, but now I think there are only 2 ways to calibrate it, plus the possibility of improving the stability (method 3). I'm happy that it's very stable, but not sure I did a good job on the frequency. I don't have a frequency counter and did the best I could to zero-beat it. so thanks for your comments, they have helped me understand this better. 73 de M0XDF -- It is not how old you are, but how you are old. -Jules Renard, writer (1864-1910) On 17 Jun 2010, at 22:13, Brett Howard wrote: You said you wanted to be able to calibrate it via the data that came with the device. You can calibrate it by inputting the data to the radio and you will get the 0.5PPM accuracy you were promised. Does that mean that the data is used? No. But you CAN input it and you WILL get the accuracy you paid for. ~Brett (N7MG) On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:10 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote: Is it then used - I thought I saw a post saying you can input it, but it's not used. And I wonder if that works in the OSX version ? 73 de M0XDF -- As a well spent day brings happy sleep, so life well used brings happy death. -Leonardo da Vinci, painter, engineer, musician, and scientist (1452-1519) On 17 Jun 2010, at 21:46, Brett Howard wrote: You can input the information via the K3 utility. It is then stored in the radio... ~Brett On Jun 17, 2010 1:16 PM, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote: I would like to be able to calibrate it according the manual and Method 3 73 de M0XDF -- Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it. -Mark Twain, author and humorist (1835-1910) On 17 Jun 2010, at 19:37, Brett Howard wrote: So you bought the TCXO because you wanted to be able to say that it was further temperature compensated by firmware? Because what was promised was that it would get to 0.5PPM via additional firmware correction. Well it turns out that the oscillators already do that out of the box. Thus implementing even further enhancement got moved very low on the list because people were already receiving that which they were promised. At the moment there are MANY things that the P3 will be able to do that are yet to be promised. You can easily tell by looking at the back of one at a hamfest. There is a VGA connector port, a USB Keyboard port, and a port to accept a W2 sensor... Think of all the possibilities that can come from this. Not to mention.. Think of all the features that have come to the K3 that weren't promised! I'd hope that you purchased the TCXO so that you could have 0.5PPM rather than 5PPM accuracy on your reference You can be comforted if that is the case as you are actually getting exactly what you paid for. ~Brett (N7MG) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 PLL Reference Osc. Range Test failed
Hi Don and Gary, Thanks for the quick replies and you both nailed it. U6 pin1 was being pulled down by a solder bridge on the thermistor board between the lower pad of the thermistor and left pad of R-D. Strand of solder no more than 1/10th the thickness of a hair. Even with the magnifier I wasn't entirely sure it was there, but it vaporized when I hit it with the iron. Now have a nice 13.1Khz differential between the high and low references. Appreciate the help. I'm sure I'll be back for more! 73 de Gil Ab1jv -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:07 AM To: Gil Bishop Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 PLL Reference Osc. Range Test failed Gil, Your troubleshooting should start in the middle. Monitor the voltage at RF board U5 pin 7 while in the CAL FCTR menu. You should see 4 volts there when you tap BAND+ and zero volts when you tap BAND-. If that does not happen, your problem will be found bact toward the microprocessor, but if the voltages are as expected, your problem lies in the forward direction, perhaps on the Thermistor board. Next check is at RF Board U6 pin 1. That should go to 8 volts when BAND+ is tapped and to near zero with BAND-. If that check fails, look for the problem on the thermistor board - usually a solder bridge - you can reach the back of the board if you remove the control board and front panel. If the test is OK, then move forward - check the soldering of R19, RP3 and D16 and D17, then monitor the voltage at RP3 pin 1 while doing the BAND button taps , repeat at RP3 pin 3. If you have a change from 8 volts to zero volts there, all should work - check the frequency at TP3 when tapping the BAND buttons. Report your progress (or lack thereof). Tell us where it works and where it does not. 73, Don W3FPR Gil Bishop wrote: Hi all, Just finished part II of the RF board assembly. (If it makes any difference, this is a ~6-year old never opened kit that I'm assembling, ser #5441, with the thermistor board mod and the PLL stability mod on the bottom of the board). PLL reference OSC stable at 12084.34Khz when in CAL FCTR mode and probe at TP3. But no deviation at all when using BAND+/- to check range. Haven't started to dive in yet - that's for tonight. Would appreciate suggestions on how/where to logically start troubleshooting this. 73 and thanks! Gil ab1jv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] QRQ posting error
Sorry for the error. The general website for QRQ is: http://qrqcwnet.ning.com/ and the iCW website is: http://groups.google.com/group/i_cw?hl=en in response to Peter on 17 June, 2010 Your two urls seem to be the same. What's the QRQ general web site? Peter W0LLN On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:28 AM, joe living jliving2...@yahoo.com wrote: The recent posts on QRQ CW and the new CW+ option on the K3 were of special interest to me. A few years ago,during the sunspot low, I decided to improve my CW skills as I could not hear much on the bands out here on Maui with no sunspots! I really got interested in QRQ as a consequence. Chuck, AA0HW, has set up two websites you all might find interesting: http://qrqcwnet.ning.com/ (corrected) a site for sharing thoughts on QRQ in general and: http://groups.google.com/group/i_cw?hl=en a site dedicated to sending CW over the internet. This has been especially helpful to me out here on Maui where checking into the 40 meter nets in our early afternoon is challenging to say the least. Joe KH6/W3GW On 16 June, 2010 Jim wrote: Message: 5 Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 13:54:57 -0500 From: Jim Miller KG0KP jimmil...@stl-online.net Subject: [Elecraft] QRQ To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 5c9cc09f5020499aac2633e2c472b...@hmjm500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 OK, Guys, I'm a newbe to ham(18 years) compared. And I have been avoiding CW until the past few months (after passing my 20 word test for my extra(16 years ago!)). This spring I started Triple Play to force myself to get serious on CW and it has been uphill all the way but I am gaining on it (still missing 15 states CW on LOTW). QRQ? High speed CW ?? OK, so how do you get to 60 or 100 WPM anyway? PC or at least keyboard input? I can't imagine accuracy for copyable code being input via paddle above maybe 40 wpm or so. Also, PC for decode even up to 100 wpm or is that by ear !!! ? Also, during the contests I sometimes hear cw going so fast all that is heard is thumping, there is no tone whatsoever being transmitted. Do I have something set wrong or are some radios prone to transmit like this? These are not close in stations (579 or so) so it shouldn't be overload and backing off the rf gain doesn't make it any different. Thanks, de Jim KG0KP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] LDG AND MFJ998
I also have one and run 1.5 kw without an issue. Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: Don Ehrlich [mailto:ehrl...@clallambroadband.com] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:53 AM To: lrom...@ij.net; k9...@live.com Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LDG AND MFJ998 I'll add my endorsement of the MFJ998. Mine is located remotely in my garden shed so I never actually see it or hear it but it works as advertised. I swallowed hard before buying it but so far ( 2 months) it has not disappointed. I treat my system gently, rarely running over 500 watts from my THP HL-1.5 amp. Don K7FJ I will agree with the below email. I have a Ameritron ALS600 and an MFJ 998 autotuner. I bought this combo for use with my former TS850. When I purchased the K3, I continued to use the tuner, albeit with no rig control, as the tuner was connected to the TS850's tune button with a home made interface cable (which cost me $2, not the $60 that MFJ asks for the same thing). To tune when using the amp and the K3, I simply press and hold the XMIT button, after setting my tune power to 10 watts. The amp then makes about 40 watts and the tuner auto tunes. Pressing XMIT again concludes the tune cycle and away I go. I have it plugged into my secondary TS570D and it works with the tune button there like it did with the '850. I just implemented a $15 Radio Shack Video Switch to switch Foot Switch, Keyer paddles and Amp Trigger between the rigs. Works perfectly (tho I drool over the new Microham SO2R mini box!). The amp will eventually bandswitch using some Unified Microsystems decoders, but this is a future enhancement when I have time. The first '998 I received had a bad relay. HRO immediately sent me a new one, which then burned in powered on for three days with no issues. It has survived unscathed since then through many contests. I originally thought I would miss the tune button on the radio functionality, but with my somewhat resonant antennas (a Carolina Windom on 80/40 and WARC bands and an A3S on 20/15/10) I dont miss the feature. Just make sure and preset the MFJ by doing a tune cycle every 10kHz on all the bands I operate on and let it make noise for a while. Next time I operate there, it remembers the settings and if your antennas have not changed, the settings just take less than a second and one clack of the relays. Frankly, I am very pleased with the (knock on wood) reliability and performance of the MFJ998. It has been rock solid. I had a '993 before it and it too was rock solid. I had an LDG AT1000 that was horrible, so YMMV. Best MFJ devices I have ever owned. I will look into the new Elecraft autotuner in the P3 box. If it implements Kenwood protocol (for my backup rig's use) I may look into it, however, for the cost, the '998 is pretty hard to beat for what you get and how it works! Yeah, its kind of ugly, but it does work well. -lu-w4lt- Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 21:32:38 -0500 From: Bill K9YEQ k9...@live.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] LDG To: 'Jack Brabham' k...@att.net, Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: blu138-ds10c04f17630a71ca39e11d9c...@phx.gbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I hesitate to add this reply: I have had the original LDG tuner for QRP... I forget which model. I had to replace the firmware chip and then things were better. Then I changed Qrp rigs but then the tuner didn't work so well. I upgrade and sold that unit... it didn't match in the same circumstances. I gave up. I tried several LDG units without success. I don't own any now. I have done SGC and similar result. Not much luck. I have better success with MFJ... can you believe that? The internal units in Elecraft units are superior to all. Cable lengths, antennas and all the rest of the stuff we deal with I like the Elecraft tuners. I am not happy they haven't delved into this market more with heavier duty stuff, but then I have what I need for now. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] LDG
Exactly. I'd believe $100M in the amateur (HF and VHF/UHF), commercial, maritime, and aviation markets combined. I'd love to know how many HF rigs they sell per year. On 6/17/2010 4:04 PM, Brett Howard wrote: Actually the K3 can sell a LOT less than 100Million and be on par with the number of IKY's sold. While Elecraft is a Ham Radio only organization IKY make a lot of money selling communications products to completely unrelated sectors. ~Brett -- R. Kevin Stover ACØH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 PLL Reference Osc. Range Test failed
Gil, Great to hear you found it. 73, Don W3FPR Gil Bishop wrote: Hi Don and Gary, Thanks for the quick replies and you both nailed it. U6 pin1 was being pulled down by a solder bridge on the thermistor board between the lower pad of the thermistor and left pad of R-D. Strand of solder no more than 1/10th the thickness of a hair. Even with the magnifier I wasn't entirely sure it was there, but it vaporized when I hit it with the iron. Now have a nice 13.1Khz differential between the high and low references. Appreciate the help. I'm sure I'll be back for more! 73 de Gil Ab1jv -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:07 AM To: Gil Bishop Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 PLL Reference Osc. Range Test failed Gil, Your troubleshooting should start in the middle. Monitor the voltage at RF board U5 pin 7 while in the CAL FCTR menu. You should see 4 volts there when you tap BAND+ and zero volts when you tap BAND-. If that does not happen, your problem will be found bact toward the microprocessor, but if the voltages are as expected, your problem lies in the forward direction, perhaps on the Thermistor board. Next check is at RF Board U6 pin 1. That should go to 8 volts when BAND+ is tapped and to near zero with BAND-. If that check fails, look for the problem on the thermistor board - usually a solder bridge - you can reach the back of the board if you remove the control board and front panel. If the test is OK, then move forward - check the soldering of R19, RP3 and D16 and D17, then monitor the voltage at RP3 pin 1 while doing the BAND button taps , repeat at RP3 pin 3. If you have a change from 8 volts to zero volts there, all should work - check the frequency at TP3 when tapping the BAND buttons. Report your progress (or lack thereof). Tell us where it works and where it does not. 73, Don W3FPR Gil Bishop wrote: Hi all, Just finished part II of the RF board assembly. (If it makes any difference, this is a ~6-year old never opened kit that I'm assembling, ser #5441, with the thermistor board mod and the PLL stability mod on the bottom of the board). PLL reference OSC stable at 12084.34Khz when in CAL FCTR mode and probe at TP3. But no deviation at all when using BAND+/- to check range. Haven't started to dive in yet - that's for tonight. Would appreciate suggestions on how/where to logically start troubleshooting this. 73 and thanks! Gil ab1jv __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] LDG
Bob Naumann wrote: What this tells us is that while us K3 types are devoted and loyal, we're just a drop in the bucket of the world-wide amateur market compared to the big two. (Kenwood doesn't count until they come out with a real radio - then it once again may be the 'big 3'). Actually, I don't think it tells us this at all. I/Y/K manufacture and sell a huge range of electronic products, not all radios in the usual sense, and most of ones that are radios are for non-ham users. They are all very large international companies, and no fooling, they make good ham radios, no question. Elecraft on the other hand, sells ham radio products only -- and very good ones that compete with the specs of the others so well as to win in most categories. Coupled with the issues of support, upgrade, and cost, E-radios are probably at the top of the heap for many reasons. My KX1 is #697 [I think]. K2 is #4398. K3 is #642, but it has a couple of hardware mods and is running FW Ver 4.03 as I type this, pretty much up to date as of 17 Jun 2010. I have yet to see an update for my FT-847 [which I like and use on UHF/VHF]. Actually, I don't think Yaesu even knows I'm one of their customers, but Elecraft does. We need to be very careful how we compare radios and companies who make them. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] LDG
I had the pleasure of helping out at the Elecraft booth at SeaPac recently and I also took a bit of time to go and listen to how Icom's booth was going... The Icom booth guys seemed to be marketing guys who don't really do a lot of ham stuff. The Elecraft booth was being assisted by customers who were excited about the product enough to want to help out. Then finally the BIGGEST difference between the Icom, Kenwood booth and the Elecraft booth. People continually came up to us to tell us about their radios and how much they loved them. But the biggest piece of uniqueness is that every person I talked to could tell me their serial number off the top of their head. How many who own a IKY can state their serial number off the top of their head? Do I have some fun stories and did I have a lot of fun with my TS-450Sat? Hell yes. Do I feel the connection to that radio that I do my K3? Meh not even close. Its a different animal. Elecraft does a great job focusing on just our segment of the market and IKY generally sees the Amateur Radio market as a fairly small portion of its total revenue and applies attention to those customers accordingly. Thus I do feel like IKY spends time listening to and responding to Amateur Radio customers! But they've got other customers with a lot more money under their control that take president. ~Brett (N7MG) On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 19:49 -0700, Fred Jensen wrote: Bob Naumann wrote: What this tells us is that while us K3 types are devoted and loyal, we're just a drop in the bucket of the world-wide amateur market compared to the big two. (Kenwood doesn't count until they come out with a real radio - then it once again may be the 'big 3'). Actually, I don't think it tells us this at all. I/Y/K manufacture and sell a huge range of electronic products, not all radios in the usual sense, and most of ones that are radios are for non-ham users. They are all very large international companies, and no fooling, they make good ham radios, no question. Elecraft on the other hand, sells ham radio products only -- and very good ones that compete with the specs of the others so well as to win in most categories. Coupled with the issues of support, upgrade, and cost, E-radios are probably at the top of the heap for many reasons. My KX1 is #697 [I think]. K2 is #4398. K3 is #642, but it has a couple of hardware mods and is running FW Ver 4.03 as I type this, pretty much up to date as of 17 Jun 2010. I have yet to see an update for my FT-847 [which I like and use on UHF/VHF]. Actually, I don't think Yaesu even knows I'm one of their customers, but Elecraft does. We need to be very careful how we compare radios and companies who make them. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2010 Cal QSO Party 2-3 Oct 2010 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
