Re: [Elecraft] The K3 at airports

2010-11-11 Thread John Chappell G3XRJ

I'm planning to pick up a P3 kit while in US soon.
 From the point of view of space saving and protection of the screen I 
plan on bringing it through the TSA in kit form.
Has anyone done this ?

John  G3XRJ

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[Elecraft] Elecraft night in Rome !

2010-11-11 Thread Andrea Borgnino IW0HK
Hi,
last night at the Rome local ham radio club me and Luca IZ0FYL we organized
a Elecraft session with a presentation and a live test of Elecraft K3
(#4777 mine..) and K2, KX1 and T1 Tuner (all from Luca FYL). More that 25
local ham attended the event and they had test live the radio, all connetted
to a antenna switch and to a windom hf wire antenna. We compared also a Icom
756pro3 with my  K3 again using a simple antenna switch. There was much
curiosity about Elecraft Radios.. many had never seen a K3 in real :-)

Best 73 de IW0HK Andrea

p.s. here is a photo of Luca IZ0YLF talking about using a K2 in CW:

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/568/k3ariroma.jpg

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Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3

2010-11-11 Thread Doug Turnbull
Hi All,
This is an aspect of the Orion II which beats the present K3.  When one
tunes the VFO the display remains steady for a period of time and the cursor
moves across a frozen display in sync with the VFO.   Once one stops tuning
the VFO the display is no longer frozen.   It does help in manually tuning
the VFO rather than using the cursor to move to a different point in the
displayed spectrum.   I would like to see this change introduced.  Boy oh
boy a company which improves previously sold product!

73 Doug EI2CN

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Amateur Radio
Operator N5GE
Sent: 11 November 2010 00:53
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3

My vote is NO...

Tom
Radio Amateur N5GE
QCWA Member 35102

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 15:57:30 -0800, ga...@gary-gordon.com  wrote:

This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow locking
the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3.  The defacto mode of
draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing track of
and tune to a new target QSO up the band.   It would seem much easier if
tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display.  My
thoughts are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to
display, say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz.   

Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3,
most likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency.  For example the
P3 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the
the P3.  As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10
markers at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart.  Assume a K3 is tuned
to 7.048 KHz, and the re-center button is pressed.  Consistent with the
suggestion, then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz,
and display a span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz.   

Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it
equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO.   
73 
Gary K6kV  

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Re: [Elecraft] The K3 at airports

2010-11-11 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
John Chappell G3XRJ wrote:

I'm planning to pick up a P3 kit while in US soon.
 From the point of view of space saving and protection of the screen I
plan on bringing it through the TSA in kit form.
Has anyone done this ?


Not specifically, but I have brought lots of electronics and other odd 
items through in checked baggage.

TSA will definitely take a look, so I always include a friendly little 
note, right on top of the package, saying something like Hi - These are 
parts for amateur radio. I purchased, checked and packed them myself, 
and signed clearly by name.

Every time I do that, the TSA inspection slip is right on top of the 
note, so they do read it. It can do no harm, and may do a lot of good.


(The only time I didn't include a note was with a circular saw blade. If 
they couldn't figure it out from the X-ray, there was nothing I could 
possibly say to help :-)


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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 problem

2010-11-11 Thread Pedro Correia

Don,

There was a broken wire from the KXB3080 (G). Also I remade the ground wires on 
the crystals. It's great now!!

73
 

Pedro CT2GET




 Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 11:13:29 -0500
 From: w3...@embarqmail.com
 To: pedrocorreia1...@hotmail.com
 CC: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 problem
 
   Pedro,
 
 Do you have the KXB3080 (or KXB30) option installed?  If so, be certain 
 the wires on the top of the option board have been flush cut and the 
 square pads are in place.  If the transistors under that board are not 
 down flat against the main board, they will not allow the KXB3080 board 
 to be laid flat and may short to the top cover.
 
 Also check the ground wires on the crystals.  If they are not soldered 
 low on the crystal case, they can contact the battery holders and put 
 pressure on the main board when the bottom cover is in place.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 On 11/9/2010 11:00 AM, Pedro Correia wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have a problem with my KX1, I notice that if apply some minor force to 
  the covers my audio level will vary. This sometimes appends if I tap the 
  main knob. I did a full soldering rework and still no solution.
  Any ideas please.
 
  
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 New LVL Cal Function (Beta 0.41)

2010-11-11 Thread Bill W4ZV


Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote:
 
 Where do I find the instructions for using this feature? 
 

Al must have forgotten to include the instructions.  The following is
PRELIMINARY ONLY but should get you going:

Amplitude Calibration

The P3 comes with a default amplitude calibration that works well with a K3
transceiver that either was manufactured after approximately 9/1/2009 or, if
an earlier unit, has the IF output buffer gain modification described in the
application note on the Elecraft web site.  If you have an earlier unit
without the modification, or you are using the P3 with a different model
transceiver, or if you just wish to obtain better amplitude accuracy on the
P3 display, you can do the following calibration.

The recommended test frequency is7040 kHz at a signal level of 50 microvolts
(-73 dBm) using a calibrated signal generator such as the Elecraft XG2. 
However, any frequency and power level within the range of the transceiver
and P3 display will also work.

* Make sure the the P3 IF IN is connected to the transceiver IF output.  If
the transceiver is a K3, connect the RS-232 cable as well.  Turn off the
preamplifier and attenuator on the K3.  If you have the KRX3 installed, make
sure SUB is disabled.

* Connect the signal generator to the transceiver antenna input.  If it is a
K3 that includes the KXV3 or KXV3A option, it is best to use the RX ANT IN
connector to eliminate the possibility of damaging the signal generator if
the K3 transmits accidentally.

* Set the signal generator for 7040 kHz at a signal level of 50 mV (-73
dBm).

* Set the SPAN on the P3 to 100 kHz, and tune the transceiver to
approximately 7015 kHz so that the signal is centered on the right half of
the display.  Set the SCALE to maximum expansion (10 dB) and adjust the REF
LVL to about -78 dBm, in order to place the peak of the signal about half
way up the screen.  You may notice a slight variation (~1.5 dB) in the peak
signal level with small adjustments in the transceiver frequency, as the
signal is tuned from pixel to pixel across the display.  Adjust the
frequency for a maximum reading.

* Tap MENU, select Lvl Cal, tap the knob, and adjust the level calibration
until the signal is at -73 dBm on the display.

You can also calibrate a receiving or transceiving converter, either the
K3's optional internal K144XV or an external device.  If you plan to do the
above calibration on a standard frequency, do it first since that
calibration is added to the converter calibration.

* Set up a signal generator, the transceiver and the P3 in a manner similar
to the above to obtain a signal near the center of the right side of the
display and approximately centered vertically, with the P3's SCAN at 100 kHz
and the SCALE set to 10 dB.

* Tap MENU, select XV Gain, tap the knob, and adjust the knob to select the
desired converter band, 1-9.  Tap the knob again and adjust the gain on the
selected band so that the signal is at the the correct level on the display.



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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 79, Issue 19

2010-11-11 Thread Giancarlo Moda
Hi all,
 
at beginning of October I returned to Italy from Boston Airport.. After one 
month of stay in W2, W7 and W1 I collected a lot of rubbish for normal people 
eyes... Some stuff was in my two suite cases and by hand I carried two MFJ 
antenna analyzers for friends (in my hand carriage) and in a box (original) I 
hand carried an ATU donated by Art, K1GBX, to my radioclub (IQ7MU-Cassano 
Murge). I went very early to the airport to avoid rush staking problems.
 
The carriage and box did not pass the TSA X-Ray check. The hand carriage was 
opened and with the two analyzers X-ray checked again. The ATU was removed from 
the box and also the foam holders removed, to avoid vison interference, and 
passed through the X-ray. I declared they all were amateur radio gadgets. No 
licence was requested to be shown. In Rome the ATU was scanned twice.
 
Before sept 11, 2000, I was always carrying (in Europe and USA) a VHF rtx and a 
wire GP to stack on hotel windows and a home made 1/2 wave mobile antenna for 
mobile use, to be stuck on car windows ... never had any problem ... after such 
bad date ... I left everything at home... and had friends help, in W-land, 
borrowing mobile VHF rtx and antennas.
 
Enjoy your trips.
 
73
 
Gian
I7SWX
F5VGU
CE3-I7SWX
W1-I7SWX
W2-I7SWX
W7-I7SWX
 
 
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 17:42:37 -0700
From: Milt, N5IA n...@zia-connection.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The K3 at airports
To: k6...@foothill.net,Elecraft Reflector
    elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID: 76dfcaab781342c98e9716dd6ae36...@milt
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
    reply-type=original

Last February I carried my dual K-3 pack from Rose as carry-on through to 
Maine and then back home.  They made me un-velcro the two radios and sent 
the two packs through separately.  Otherwise, No Problema.

Milt, N5IA

- Original Message - 
From: Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] The K3 at airports


 On 11/10/2010 4:26 PM, van fair wrote:
 Does anyone have experience carrying a K3 and power supply through
 the TSA inspections  at USA airports.  What can I expect??

 I've only done it once, and I packed the power supply in my checked
 baggage [I put a label on it and included a copy of my license].  For
 the carry-on, I had it labeled with a copy of my license.  They asked me
 to remove it and send it through the machine separately.  I don't know
 what they could see on the X-ray, but it was OK.

 I have braces on my legs and I carry some scrap metal in my shoulder so
 I'm total toast at TSA.  They were far more interested in me than my
 radio.  While involved in the strip search, my radio and other stuff
 came out of the machine.  My wife collected it for me.  If you're not
 toast at TSA, once they're done with you, they'll want you to get your
 belongings out of the area.

 Good luck,

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
 - Northern California Contest Club
 - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
 - www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3

2010-11-11 Thread JAMES ROGERS
Because I am old and crotchety and prone to mistakes. Mea Culpa.

Jim, W4ATK

On Nov 10, 2010, at 7:13 PM, The Smiths wrote:

 The IF isn't limited by the filter in use at the time As you  
 know the P3 can span an area something like 200KHz wide... It  
 doesn't matter if you have your 500Hz or 200Hz filter on or not, the  
 IF is still looking at the entire 200KHz area.  If you lock the P3  
 than the display will display from 7.000 to 7.050 for example (50KHz).
 From there, as you more the cursor and hit the QSY knob the little  
 cursor line could change colors indicating it is working on that  
 freq (and the rig has changed freq.) but the display doesn't have to  
 change, it stays the same.  The only thing that has changed is the  
 color of the cursor, or just the fact that the rig is now parked at  
 the new cursor location.

 This would allow you to start at 7.000 and work your way up the IF  
 display till you got to 7.050 and never have to worry about whether  
 or not you've worked the guy that's to the left of your cursor. You  
 would KNOW for sure that you have, because you were already there,  
 and you're continuing moving the cursor up the band display. A great  
 feature for a contester or even someone working DX on a band like 17  
 or 30 meters CW...

 Now, my next question is, Jim, Why did you just disagree with  
 offering this feature, when you didn't even understand how it worked  
 in the first place?





  From: w4...@bellsouth.net
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
  Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 18:47:02 -0600
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3
 
  Just out of curiosity exactly how would you propose to do this.  
 The IF
  is limited by the filter in use and since the P3 operates off of the
  IF passband, i may be dense, but I cannot for the life of me see how
  this could be done... after thinking about it for a moment or two...
  Enlighten a old geezer please
 
  73s Jim, W4ATK
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Re: [Elecraft] K144XV receive gain

2010-11-11 Thread w8zn
I've done extensive testing and Eric confirmed that the gain is fixed, only the 
s-meter reading is adjustable via firmware. I tested a K3/K144XV on 3.97 and 
again at 4.14 and the sensitivty is the same (quite good I might add), only 
the s-meter reading has changed.

Terry - W8ZN
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[Elecraft] Remote Operation on SSB with a K3 radio problem

2010-11-11 Thread John K9UWA
I have successfully operated my home station while away from home on CW on and 
off for about a year.

But would like to add the abilty to do SSB to my K3 radio and Computer. The 
computer running XP-Pro attached to the K3 has a 
good sound card in it but I don't know  what hole I should be coming out of the 
sound card FROM ? Line Out? External Speaker out? 

And into which rear jack on the backside of the K3 radio? Mono line IN ? or Mic 
IN ? 

Do I also have to make up my cable then perhaps Stereo on the Computer end  and 
into a Mono on the Radio end?

I tried a Stereo to Stereo cable from a couple of the soundcard outputs into 
the Mono Line IN on the K3 but I could not
come up with any settings for the Mic Gain and Antivox on the K3 that actually 
worked. They either wouldn't feed adequate
audio to the radio or would ack the curciut and make the antivox act up 
tripping it all back off again. Guess I am somewhat
lost.

Sound back and forth between the home radio computer and me wherever I am is 
Microsoft program called MS Portrait 
which has worked flawlessly for both CW and with speakers hooked up I can also 
talk to people if someone is here at my
home in the shack. Somewhat like being on a speaker telephone. It seems to work 
better than when I used IP-Sound. 
Normally these speakers are disconneted. If we are using the radio and would 
only be hooked up if someone were here for
troubleshooting some problem.  Also using a VPN to get to and from the computer 
using Ham Radio deluxe to control the
 K3 radio.

For CW I use a K1EL USB keyer operated from within HRD and Also have and use 
the Windows version of K1EA CT Program.

Thanks
John k9uwa
John Goller, K9UWA  Jean Goller, N9PXF 
Antique Radio Restorations
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http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com
4836 Ranch Road
Leo, IN 46765
USA
1-260-637-6426

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 New LVL Cal Function (Beta 0.41)

2010-11-11 Thread Amateur Radio Operator N5GE

Thanks, Bill!  I printed the instructions and will try it later today.

73,
Tom
Radio Amateur N5GE
QCWA Member 35102

On Thu, 11 Nov 2010 03:18:25 -0800 (PST), Bill W4ZV btipp...@alum.mit.edu
wrote:

[snip]
Al must have forgotten to include the instructions.  The following is
PRELIMINARY ONLY but should get you going:

Amplitude Calibration

The P3 comes with a default amplitude calibration that works well with a K3
transceiver that either was manufactured after approximately 9/1/2009 or, if
an earlier unit, has the IF output buffer gain modification described in the
application note on the Elecraft web site.  If you have an earlier unit
without the modification, or you are using the P3 with a different model
transceiver, or if you just wish to obtain better amplitude accuracy on the
P3 display, you can do the following calibration.

The recommended test frequency is7040 kHz at a signal level of 50 microvolts
(-73 dBm) using a calibrated signal generator such as the Elecraft XG2. 
However, any frequency and power level within the range of the transceiver
and P3 display will also work.

* Make sure the the P3 IF IN is connected to the transceiver IF output.  If
the transceiver is a K3, connect the RS-232 cable as well.  Turn off the
preamplifier and attenuator on the K3.  If you have the KRX3 installed, make
sure SUB is disabled.

* Connect the signal generator to the transceiver antenna input.  If it is a
K3 that includes the KXV3 or KXV3A option, it is best to use the RX ANT IN
connector to eliminate the possibility of damaging the signal generator if
the K3 transmits accidentally.

* Set the signal generator for 7040 kHz at a signal level of 50 mV (-73
dBm).

* Set the SPAN on the P3 to 100 kHz, and tune the transceiver to
approximately 7015 kHz so that the signal is centered on the right half of
the display.  Set the SCALE to maximum expansion (10 dB) and adjust the REF
LVL to about -78 dBm, in order to place the peak of the signal about half
way up the screen.  You may notice a slight variation (~1.5 dB) in the peak
signal level with small adjustments in the transceiver frequency, as the
signal is tuned from pixel to pixel across the display.  Adjust the
frequency for a maximum reading.

* Tap MENU, select Lvl Cal, tap the knob, and adjust the level calibration
until the signal is at -73 dBm on the display.

You can also calibrate a receiving or transceiving converter, either the
K3's optional internal K144XV or an external device.  If you plan to do the
above calibration on a standard frequency, do it first since that
calibration is added to the converter calibration.

* Set up a signal generator, the transceiver and the P3 in a manner similar
to the above to obtain a signal near the center of the right side of the
display and approximately centered vertically, with the P3's SCAN at 100 kHz
and the SCALE set to 10 dB.

* Tap MENU, select XV Gain, tap the knob, and adjust the knob to select the
desired converter band, 1-9.  Tap the knob again and adjust the gain on the
selected band so that the signal is at the the correct level on the display.

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Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3

2010-11-11 Thread AB3EN

We will be adding this feature to the P3, but its use will be entirely  
optional. It will still behave the same way it does now if you don't  
turn on fixed-tune mode. 

Thank you Wayne!
This is why I have a K3 on my desk!

73
Dan


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[Elecraft] re-KDVR3

2010-11-11 Thread jgaudron
Thanks to all those who replied to my question ! Very thankful indeed, so is 
my friend !
Best 73
Jacques de F9OJ 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 New LVL Cal Function (Beta 0.41)

2010-11-11 Thread Stan Gibbs

The calibration procedure is very easy to do, and went as described.  My XG2
signal is right on the money at -73 dbm now.

I'm curious what the nominal range of transfer gain is that we might expect
to see.  Mine is around -18 db.  What does this number mean, anyway?

The release notes for this firmware says: Added many new RS-232 commands. 
Are these documented anywhere; in a P3 Programmer's Reference perhaps?

Thanks, Alan!


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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amplifier

2010-11-11 Thread Terry Schieler
Phil,

Anyone who has just spent 5 weeks cruising through Europe then rubs our
noses in it on this reflector probably doesn't DESERVE an amplifier.  ;o)

Terry, W0FM





-Original Message-
From: Phil LaMarche [mailto:plama...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 4:25 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amplifier

I've been off the reflector for 5 weeks on a cruise in Europe.  Has there
been any announcement for anticipated delivery.  Thanks
 
Phil
 
Philip LaMarche
 
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p...@lamarcheenterprises.com
www.LaMarcheEnterprises.com http://www.lamarcheenterprises.com/  
 
727-944-3226
727-937-8834 Fax
727-510-5038 Cell 
 
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K3 #1605
 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 New LVL Cal Function (Beta 0.41)

2010-11-11 Thread Bill W4ZV


Stan Gibbs wrote:
 
 I'm curious what the nominal range of transfer gain is that we might
 expect to see.  Mine is around -18 db.  What does this number mean,
 anyway?
 

Transfer loss is loss from the K3 ANT input to the KXV3 IF OUT.  -18 dB
sounds high...as though you may have an older unit which has not been
modified (easy to check by removing the bottom front panel and inspecting
R8):

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/IF_Output_Buffer_Gain_Mod_Rev_A.pdf

I have two K3s (#2183 and #4717).  The first was modified by me (R8 = 13k
SMD) and the latter came from the factory with the change implemented in
production.  Both of mine measured -7.3 dB but other Field Testers reported
as much as -14 dB.  BE SURE you follow the instructions below exactly since
these can affect the measurement:

1.  Turn off PRE, ATT and SUB.
2.  Carefully tune the VFO for the signal peak (which may vary by ~1.5 dB
depending on VFO setting).

73,  Bill

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Enhancement request - audio mixing

2010-11-11 Thread David Gilbert


I would also appreciate this capability.  I understand Elecraft's 
reluctance to expose the DSP code to potential corruption from an 
incorrect macro, but not being able to change some of those parameters 
(audio mixing, AGC) on the fly with one button macros is a significant 
limitation.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 11/10/2010 6:56 PM, Richard Ferch wrote:
 I'd like to request an enhancement of the current audio mixing
 capabilities with two receivers, to allow instant switching from the
 normal one radio in each ear to either main RX in both ears, or sub RX
 in both ears. I understand that these are possible with direct DSP
 commands, but as far as I am aware these DSP commands are not available
 from switch macros. I don't believe I am the first to make such a
 request, but I am adding my voice to those who would appreciate such an
 enhancement.

 When listening to both receivers, there are often occasions when I would
 like to quickly and temporarily switch to hearing only one of them.
 Currently I can use the AF balance control to effectively mute one of
 the receivers, but I would prefer an action that I can perform or
 restore with a single button push on the radio or key press in software,
 rather than having to rotate a knob through almost 180 degrees
 (especially that particular knob, which I find a bit difficult to
 operate quickly). It would also be helpful to have the chosen signal in
 both ears in these situations, instead of in only one ear.

 One way to do this would be to add two options to CONFIG:L-MIX-R, namely
 the options A_A and B_B, in addition to the existing set (A_B, A_AB,
 AB_B and AB_AB). This would make it possible using macro commands (e.g.
 MN111;MPxxx;MN255 where xxx depends on the mixing option chosen) to
 control audio mixing either from the radio's front panel or from
 software. In fact, it might be even simpler than this: there are already
 6 options for L-MIX-R, but the last two (MP004 and MP005) are simply
 duplicates of the first two; it appears from here as if all that would
 be needed would be to change option 4 to A_A and option 5 to B_B. Of
 course, what looks simple from the outside might be anything but... !

 73,
 Rich VE3KI
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Enhancement request - audio mixing

2010-11-11 Thread Barry N1EU

I have requested this several times over the past 2 years.  It's a matter of
priorities but am hopeful we might see it soon.

73, Barry N1EU



David Gilbert wrote:
 
 
 
 I would also appreciate this capability.  I understand Elecraft's 
 reluctance to expose the DSP code to potential corruption from an 
 incorrect macro, but not being able to change some of those parameters 
 (audio mixing, AGC) on the fly with one button macros is a significant 
 limitation.
 
 73,
 Dave   AB7E
 
 
 
 On 11/10/2010 6:56 PM, Richard Ferch wrote:
 I'd like to request an enhancement of the current audio mixing
 capabilities with two receivers, to allow instant switching from the
 normal one radio in each ear to either main RX in both ears, or sub RX
 in both ears. I understand that these are possible with direct DSP
 commands, but as far as I am aware these DSP commands are not available
 from switch macros. I don't believe I am the first to make such a
 request, but I am adding my voice to those who would appreciate such an
 enhancement.

 When listening to both receivers, there are often occasions when I would
 like to quickly and temporarily switch to hearing only one of them.
 Currently I can use the AF balance control to effectively mute one of
 the receivers, but I would prefer an action that I can perform or
 restore with a single button push on the radio or key press in software,
 rather than having to rotate a knob through almost 180 degrees
 (especially that particular knob, which I find a bit difficult to
 operate quickly). It would also be helpful to have the chosen signal in
 both ears in these situations, instead of in only one ear.

 One way to do this would be to add two options to CONFIG:L-MIX-R, namely
 the options A_A and B_B, in addition to the existing set (A_B, A_AB,
 AB_B and AB_AB). This would make it possible using macro commands (e.g.
 MN111;MPxxx;MN255 where xxx depends on the mixing option chosen) to
 control audio mixing either from the radio's front panel or from
 software. In fact, it might be even simpler than this: there are already
 6 options for L-MIX-R, but the last two (MP004 and MP005) are simply
 duplicates of the first two; it appears from here as if all that would
 be needed would be to change option 4 to A_A and option 5 to B_B. Of
 course, what looks simple from the outside might be anything but... !

 73,
 Rich VE3KI
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Re: [Elecraft] The K3 at airports

2010-11-11 Thread N2TK, Tony
I have taken a K3 out of the country several times without incident going
out or coming in. A few times I forgot to take it out of my carry-on
computer bag along with my laptop and nothing was said. I am also one of
those folks that get the personal rub down from TSA due to a metal knee.
So I get close scrutiny.

73,
N2TK, Tony  

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of van fair
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:27 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] The K3 at airports

Does anyone have experience carrying a K3 and power supply through the TSA
inspections  at USA airports.  What can I expect?? Thanks Van W4GIW
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amplifier

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
This is a totally inappropriate posting for the reflector and is outside 
of the list guidelines.

It is never appropriate to make rude and directly critical postings 
about another list member.

Please see the list guidelines at:
http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm

73,
Eric  WA6HHQ
Elecraft List Moderator



On 11/11/2010 7:41 AM, Terry Schieler wrote:
 Phil,

 Anyone who has just spent 5 weeks cruising through Europe then rubs our
 noses in it on this reflector probably doesn't DESERVE an amplifier.  ;o)

 Terry, W0FM

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amplifier

2010-11-11 Thread Terry Schieler
Sorry Eric.  It was meant in fun.  Phil and I have known each other for some
time now.  He got the humor.  I apologize if it did not come across as
intended.  Hence the ;o) at the end.

Terry, W0FM

-Original Message-
From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 10:55 AM
To: Terry Schieler
Cc: 'Phil LaMarche'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amplifier

This is a totally inappropriate posting for the reflector and is outside 
of the list guidelines.

It is never appropriate to make rude and directly critical postings 
about another list member.

Please see the list guidelines at:
http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm

73,
Eric  WA6HHQ
Elecraft List Moderator



On 11/11/2010 7:41 AM, Terry Schieler wrote:
 Phil,

 Anyone who has just spent 5 weeks cruising through Europe then rubs our
 noses in it on this reflector probably doesn't DESERVE an amplifier.  ;o)

 Terry, W0FM


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Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We are already working on this as a user selectable P3 display mode. 
Either a moving panoramic display centered on your operating frequency, 
as it is now, or a fixed frequency display centered where you wish. 
Easily toggled between either mode.

Stay tuned.

73, Eric


On 11/10/2010 5:04 PM, The Smiths wrote:
 The feature described is something that most of us have been waiting for.  
 Being able to jump around inside a set area and not move the entire display 
 along with it not only makes perfect sense, but is extremely helpful for 
 those that like to know they're not chasing their tails back and forth around 
 the band as they keep tuning in the same signal in a different location on 
 the P3 screen OVER AND OVER again.
 Of course Jim, this would be a Feature that could be turned on and off.  
 Nothing has to change for you at all.   In the audio world, Locking the play 
 head is something we've been doing since the first day digital audio was 
 introduced. Now it's a REQUIREMENT.
   
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Refresh rate

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Do you have averaging turned on?
73, Eric
===

On 11/10/2010 4:50 PM, Gene wrote:
I recently put p3 S/N 712 on line and notice the spectrum display is
 very jumpy as I tune up and down the band.

 A) Is there an ideal refresh rate or a value one should start with?
 B) Would this vary as band conditions change?
 C) Is the rate tied in with averaging time?

 I am used to seeing the spectrum display as on a ProII that I had, very
 steady and not jumpy.  Any help would be appreciated.

 Thanks,  Gene
 W2BXR
 K3, 1188
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Refresh rate

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Ah - I see you did have averaging turned on.

Yes, averaging over less samples will reduce this as it needs to 
recalculate the display average when the frequency is changed. Turning 
off averaging on the P3 will eliminate this and make it act like your 
other display.

73, Eric


On 11/10/2010 4:50 PM, Gene wrote:
I recently put p3 S/N 712 on line and notice the spectrum display is
 very jumpy as I tune up and down the band.

 A) Is there an ideal refresh rate or a value one should start with?
 B) Would this vary as band conditions change?
 C) Is the rate tied in with averaging time?

 I am used to seeing the spectrum display as on a ProII that I had, very
 steady and not jumpy.  Any help would be appreciated.

 Thanks,  Gene
 W2BXR
 K3, 1188

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amplifier

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
OK Phil - No harm done.  I apologize if I reacted too quickly.

Email is a pretty sterile medium where its hard to see if someone is 
making a friendly tongue-in-cheek comment, or something more serious. it 
is easy to misinterpret the meaning of a posting. I received a number of 
concerned emails about this one which generated my comment.

Probably best in the future to make these emails direct off list when 
commenting between friends :-)

73, Eric
Elecraft List moderator
-


On 11/11/2010 9:00 AM, Terry Schieler wrote:
 Sorry Eric.  It was meant in fun.  Phil and I have known each other for some
 time now.  He got the humor.  I apologize if it did not come across as
 intended.  Hence the ;o) at the end.

 Terry, W0FM

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft [mailto:e...@elecraft.com]
 Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 10:55 AM
 To: Terry Schieler
 Cc: 'Phil LaMarche'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amplifier

 This is a totally inappropriate posting for the reflector and is outside
 of the list guidelines.

 It is never appropriate to make rude and directly critical postings
 about another list member.

 Please see the list guidelines at:
 http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm

 73,
 Eric  WA6HHQ
 Elecraft List Moderator



 On 11/11/2010 7:41 AM, Terry Schieler wrote:
 Phil,

 Anyone who has just spent 5 weeks cruising through Europe then rubs our
 noses in it on this reflector probably doesn't DESERVE an amplifier.  ;o)

 Terry, W0FM

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Amplifier

2010-11-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Correction - Terry (not Phil)

73, Eric


On 11/11/2010 9:10 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
 OK Phil - No harm done.  I apologize if I reacted too quickly.

 Email is a pretty sterile medium where its hard to see if someone is 
 making a friendly tongue-in-cheek comment, or something more serious. 
 it is easy to misinterpret the meaning of a posting. I received a 
 number of concerned emails about this one which generated my comment.

 Probably best in the future to make these emails direct off list when 
 commenting between friends :-)

 73, Eric
 Elecraft List moderator
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[Elecraft] QRP contest calendar, minor correction for CQWW

2010-11-11 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
From the N2CQ posting

CQ World Wide DX Contest (CW) ... QRP Category!
Nov 27, z to Nov 28, 2359z
Rules: http://www.cqww.com/rules/CQWW-Rules-2010.pdf

Please keep in mind that there are LOTS of QRP categories now (with
certificate recognition)...

QRP Assisted all band
QRP Assisted, monoband (10, 15, 20, 40, 80, 160)

Not only thatbut if you do well in these new categories, you can
be the first to set the Record (world, continent, country, zone and in
some cases, by call area, including USA).

Go for it!

de Doug KR2Q
CQWW Contest Committee

K3, K3, K2

(yes, I only have two ears, but 3 Elecraft radios).
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 New LVL Cal Function (Beta 0.41)

2010-11-11 Thread Stan Gibbs

Thanks, Bill, for the response.

My K3 is #4181, so the mod is not necessary.  Yes, -18 dB does sound
excessive.  However, I really can't be sure whether the issue is an XG2 that
doesn't output 50uV, or excessive loss in the RX input stages.  I don't have
the test equipment to determine which is correct, unfortunately.


Bill W4ZV wrote:
 
 I have two K3s (#2183 and #4717).  The first was modified by me (R8 = 13k
 SMD) and the latter came from the factory with the change implemented in
 production.  Both of mine measured -7.3 dB but other Field Testers
 reported as much as -14 dB.  BE SURE you follow the instructions below
 exactly since these can affect the measurement:
 


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[Elecraft] K3 VGA info needed

2010-11-11 Thread Bob G3PJT
Hi Can anyone tell me the function/spec for pin 10 of the VGA connector 
please

Thanks and 73
Bob G3PJT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VGA info needed

2010-11-11 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML
Bob,

The K3 ACC connector (not VGA!) is documented on pages 18/19 of the K3
Owner's Manual (see the pin-out table, and the sub-section on
Transverter Control).

~Iain / N6ML



On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Bob G3PJT g3...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Hi Can anyone tell me the function/spec for pin 10 of the VGA connector
 please

 Thanks and 73
 Bob G3PJT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VGA info needed

2010-11-11 Thread w5ov
From the K3 Manual:

pin 10 KEYOUT-LP (10 mA keying output)

For transverter keying, you can use KEYOUT-LP
signal (pin 10 of the ACC connector) or the KEY
OUT jack (RCA).


 Hi Can anyone tell me the function/spec for pin 10 of the VGA connector
 please

 Thanks and 73
 Bob G3PJT
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VGA info needed

2010-11-11 Thread David Pratt
Presumably you are referring to the 15-pin D-connector, Bob.  According 
to the schematic of the IO Board, pin-10 is KEYOUT_LP

73 de David G4DMP

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please




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VGA info needed

2010-11-11 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Bob:  I don't want to split hairs, but the K3 ACC connector is not a VGA
video connector. The K3 does not provide a video output.  The owner's manual
identifies ACC pin 10 as a 10 ma max keying output.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Hi Can anyone tell me the function/spec for pin 10 of the VGA connector 
please

Thanks and 73
Bob G3PJT
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote Operation on SSB with a K3 radio problem

2010-11-11 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML
Hi John,

I do some remote SSB operation (picking off DX when they don't show up
on CW!), but I don't use VOX.

Line out or speaker out (generically, the green jack) on your sound
card to the line-in on the K3 with a standard stereo cable should work
fine. I believe that the jack on the K3 is a stereo one, but the
ring is not connected to anything.

You will have to adjust the line-in level n the K3 to suit (I run mine
somewhere around 20-25), and, as far as I know, this can only be done
using the MIC control on the front of the K3 when MAIN:MIC-SEL is
set to line-in. I've been meaning to bug Wayne about the fact that
this can't be adjusted remotely, AFAIK, but once it's set about right,
you can fine tune with the sound card's level controls.

GL...

~Iain / N6ML


On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 1:56 PM, John K9UWA
j...@johnjeanantiqueradio.com wrote:
 I have successfully operated my home station while away from home on CW on 
 and off for about a year.

 But would like to add the abilty to do SSB to my K3 radio and Computer. The 
 computer running XP-Pro attached to the K3 has a
 good sound card in it but I don't know  what hole I should be coming out of 
 the sound card FROM ? Line Out? External Speaker out?

 And into which rear jack on the backside of the K3 radio? Mono line IN ? or 
 Mic IN ?

 Do I also have to make up my cable then perhaps Stereo on the Computer end  
 and into a Mono on the Radio end?

 I tried a Stereo to Stereo cable from a couple of the soundcard outputs into 
 the Mono Line IN on the K3 but I could not
 come up with any settings for the Mic Gain and Antivox on the K3 that 
 actually worked. They either wouldn't feed adequate
 audio to the radio or would ack the curciut and make the antivox act up 
 tripping it all back off again. Guess I am somewhat
 lost.

 Sound back and forth between the home radio computer and me wherever I am is 
 Microsoft program called MS Portrait
 which has worked flawlessly for both CW and with speakers hooked up I can 
 also talk to people if someone is here at my
 home in the shack. Somewhat like being on a speaker telephone. It seems to 
 work better than when I used IP-Sound.
 Normally these speakers are disconneted. If we are using the radio and would 
 only be hooked up if someone were here for
 troubleshooting some problem.  Also using a VPN to get to and from the 
 computer using Ham Radio deluxe to control the
  K3 radio.

 For CW I use a K1EL USB keyer operated from within HRD and Also have and use 
 the Windows version of K1EA CT Program.

 Thanks
 John k9uwa
 John Goller, K9UWA  Jean Goller, N9PXF
 Antique Radio Restorations
 k9...@arrl.net
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 VGA info needed

2010-11-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
  I *will* split hairs - because a VGA cable has several pins tied to 
each other (the shields for the video signals I believe), and there are 
some pins that are not used.
If one tries to use a VGA cable on the K3 ACC connector, the results may 
be disappointing.
There are cables built with all 15 pins isolated and all pins populated, 
but they are harder to find.

For clarity's sake, let's avoid referring to that connector as a VGA
ACC connector or the DB-15HD female connector describe it well.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/11/2010 2:59 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
 Bob:  I don't want to split hairs, but the K3 ACC connector is not a VGA
 video connector. The K3 does not provide a video output.
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[Elecraft] Let me build your K2

2010-11-11 Thread Alan Price

Let me build a K2 for you.  You receive a new radio with the options you want.  
My prices are reasonable.  I have built more than 430 K2's to date.  Please 
respond off of the reflector.
 
73
W1HYV
Alan  
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Enhancement request - audio mixing

2010-11-11 Thread David Lankshear
As Richard's message seems to have disappeared under a pile of other posts,
I would add my voice on behalf of a friend who would dearly love to be able
to listen to his 2nd rx in both ears.

 

I would guess that it wouldn't be that hard to implement, judging from the
other audio options that have been implemented in firmware.

 

Love to have a 'yea', 'nay', 'maybe', 'on the list' or 'never' from Eric or
Wayne.

 

73  DaveL  G3TJP

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[Elecraft] Looking for KAT2 and KIO2

2010-11-11 Thread Robert L Kalkwarf
Hi,
Anyone have these kits built or unbuilt?  I have a 100% K-100 and 
KAT-100 that I would like to sell or swap plus cash.

Bob w7wo K2-3244

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Enhancement request - audio mixing

2010-11-11 Thread k2qi . nyc
You can listen to the subrx in both ears. There is an audio mixing function 
that allows you to pipe sub output to both channels.

James K2QI
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Sent: Nov 11, 2010 18:10

As Richard's message seems to have disappeared under a pile of other posts,
I would add my voice on behalf of a friend who would dearly love to be able
to listen to his 2nd rx in both ears.

 

I would guess that it wouldn't be that hard to implement, judging from the
other audio options that have been implemented in firmware.

 

Love to have a 'yea', 'nay', 'maybe', 'on the list' or 'never' from Eric or
Wayne.

 

73  DaveL  G3TJP

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 New LVL Cal Function (Beta 0.41)

2010-11-11 Thread N1JM

Mine turned out to be -10db and I have the IF mod.


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Enhancement request - audio mixing

2010-11-11 Thread Barry N1EU


K2QI wrote:
 
 You can listen to the subrx in both ears. There is an audio mixing
 function that allows you to pipe sub output to both channels.
 
It is not currently possible to listen to only subrx audio in both channels
via the L-MIX-R Config setting

Barry N1EU

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Enhancement request - audio mixing

2010-11-11 Thread k2qi . nyc
Barry,

I may have misread the original question, but if all one wants to do is listen 
to the subrx in both channels, then it is possible by adjusting the mix 
settings, then turning the AF gain down on the main.  That's what I do if I 
want a stereo type output from my sub receiver. This is helpful for those 
that have the bandpass filter installed only on the sub and they want to SWL 
with a second antenna connected to the aux input.

James K2QI
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Sent: Nov 11, 2010 18:50



K2QI wrote:
 
 You can listen to the subrx in both ears. There is an audio mixing
 function that allows you to pipe sub output to both channels.
 
It is not currently possible to listen to only subrx audio in both channels
via the L-MIX-R Config setting

Barry N1EU

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[Elecraft] KX1 Kit -- VFO Tuning and Readout ??

2010-11-11 Thread Phil Hystad
Question For you KX1 experts...

I am in the process of building a KX1 and I am currently doing the Receiver 
Alignment as described on page 45 of the manual.

I am stuck.  I don't understand the VFO frequency readout.  My KX1 is behaving 
differently then the description in the manual and I am not sure what kind of 
mistake I am making or if there is something wrong with the KX1 at this stage 
(although, all tests and functionality have shown to be OK up until this point).

Here is the problem.  The manual says (page 64) that when you tap the BAND 
button that the LED readout will the frequency, first showing the MHz, then 
KHz.  Then, it says that L or U are added in LSB or USB modes.

But, when I tap the BAND button, I get the MHz readout of 7 then I get two 
readouts following that as 080 and then 80.0 and only on this third number 
display is the decimal point lit up.  Thus, tapping the BAND button displays 7, 
then 080, and then 80.0.  Now, I can use the VFO Tune to adjust this final 
number but I am not sure why I am getting three numbers whereas the manual says 
that I would get two.

Also, I don't see how to pick a particular frequency as the VFO Tune control 
and the LED readout do not seem to correspond in a manner that makes sense.  
So, I am missing something.

For example, if the frequency were something like 7.058 then I would expect the 
first number to be 7, the second number to be 058.  

Can someone set me straight?

73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 mic gain and bias settings

2010-11-11 Thread James Sarte
Has anyone else noticed similar?  I still haven't gotten a definitive
answer, and am curious to see if others had experienced the same.

Also, I've noticed that FM always requires a bit more mic gain to achieve
the same level of ALC action as opposed to sideband.  Can anyone confirm?

73 de James K2QI
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:54 PM, James Sarte k2qi@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings Elecrafters,

 I previously posted a question to the group about mic gain settings in
 conjunction with the Elecraft MH2 hand mic.  Prior to the slew of recent
 firmware updates, I had to set microphone bias to low, and keep the mic
 gain at 4 or 5.  Anything higher, and ALC would start to reduce power.  At
 those settings, speaking normally would give me 5-7 bars of ALC as
 recommended in the manual.  Several folks have written to me stating that
 their K3 also behaved similarly and thus required the same amount of mic
 gain as I've written.

 Today however, after testing firmware versions 4.17, 4.18, and then
 reverting to 4.14 I've noticed that mic gain now needs to be set to 15 in
 order to achieve the same results.  I'm curious if anyone else has noticed
 this.  There doesn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary in terms of
 performance, but was curious as to why the sudden difference what else could
 have been affected.

 Any thoughts?
 --
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Kit -- VFO Tuning and Readout ??

2010-11-11 Thread Phil Hystad
OK, I think I know what I am reading on the LED display but I need 
confirmation.  I found the W1AW scheduled CW broadcasts on 7.0475 and now see 
that when I tap the button I get the following displayed sequence: 7, 047, and 
then 47.5.  So, I see that the final is a 100 Hz digit place and 100 Hz tuning 
would likely produce this final result (although I have not yet tested that).

I think I got thrown a curve when the manual seemed to hint, no it actually 
says, that there are TWO readouts, not THREE.  

peh

On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

 Question For you KX1 experts...
 
 I am in the process of building a KX1 and I am currently doing the Receiver 
 Alignment as described on page 45 of the manual.
 
 I am stuck.  I don't understand the VFO frequency readout.  My KX1 is 
 behaving differently then the description in the manual and I am not sure 
 what kind of mistake I am making or if there is something wrong with the KX1 
 at this stage (although, all tests and functionality have shown to be OK up 
 until this point).
 
 Here is the problem.  The manual says (page 64) that when you tap the BAND 
 button that the LED readout will the frequency, first showing the MHz, then 
 KHz.  Then, it says that L or U are added in LSB or USB modes.
 
 But, when I tap the BAND button, I get the MHz readout of 7 then I get two 
 readouts following that as 080 and then 80.0 and only on this third number 
 display is the decimal point lit up.  Thus, tapping the BAND button displays 
 7, then 080, and then 80.0.  Now, I can use the VFO Tune to adjust this final 
 number but I am not sure why I am getting three numbers whereas the manual 
 says that I would get two.
 
 Also, I don't see how to pick a particular frequency as the VFO Tune control 
 and the LED readout do not seem to correspond in a manner that makes sense.  
 So, I am missing something.
 
 For example, if the frequency were something like 7.058 then I would expect 
 the first number to be 7, the second number to be 058.  
 
 Can someone set me straight?
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Enhancement request - audio mixing

2010-11-11 Thread Gary Gordon
I've been paying close attention to this thread, having purchased
the K3 sub-receiver with the intent of using it next Field Day with my two
very-orthogonal 40M antennas.  My question is, has it been thought through
how the capability of having two receivers and two antennas works best in a
contest?  I sense from this thread that it is distracting to not be able to
hear only the chosen antenna in both ears.  It makes me wonder, could a
different optional mode for the K3's antenna switch help satisfy this wish?

Ideas are cheap, and one that comes to mind is this:  When listening
to two antennas, a TAP of the ANT switch would feed what's in the left ear
into both ears.  If instead a slightly longer HOLD of the ANT switch was
made, what was heard in the right ear would then be fed into both ears, and
also select the XMIT antenna.  After the contest exchange, any further tap
of the ANT switch would revert the receivers to putting their separate
signals into each ear, maybe assigning the last active antenna to the left
ear. 
In use in a contest, then, if the desired station were strongest in
the right ear, the operator would press the ANT switch for one second, work
the station (hearing it in both ears), and finish with one tap of the ANT
switch to returned reception to its prior dual-receiver mode. 
Note that such a mode might be implemented as an option.  If set to
that mode, then a K3 would enter that mode when the diversity mode was
invoked.
My post is not a request, but rather a question that, given the
power of dual receivers and antenna switching, has the best way to use this
capability in a contest been worked out?  
Thanks
Gary K6KV



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K2QI wrote:
 
 You can listen to the subrx in both ears. There is an audio mixing
 function that allows you to pipe sub output to both channels.
 
It is not currently possible to listen to only subrx audio in both channels
via the L-MIX-R Config setting

Barry N1EU

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Kit -- VFO Tuning and Readout ??

2010-11-11 Thread Joe Planisky
Hi Phil,

What you are seeing is exactly correct.  When you tap the Band switch,  
you're seeing two temporary displays (MHz, then KHz), then it  
returns to the normal frequency display for your current tuning rate.   
So, yes, the numbers change 3 times, but that 3rd time is just the rig  
returning to it's normal display.   This is explained a bit more  
clearly on page 29, right hand side, 3rd checkbox:

You can check the MHz and kHz digits at any time by tapping BAND.   
For example, if the VFO frequency is 7100.00 kHz, tapping BAND will  
first show 7, then 100, then return to the appropriate display for  
your selected tuning rate.

73
--
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On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

 OK, I think I know what I am reading on the LED display but I need  
 confirmation.  I found the W1AW scheduled CW broadcasts on 7.0475  
 and now see that when I tap the button I get the following displayed  
 sequence: 7, 047, and then 47.5.  So, I see that the final is a 100  
 Hz digit place and 100 Hz tuning would likely produce this final  
 result (although I have not yet tested that).

 I think I got thrown a curve when the manual seemed to hint, no it  
 actually says, that there are TWO readouts, not THREE.

 peh

 On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

 Question For you KX1 experts...

 I am in the process of building a KX1 and I am currently doing the  
 Receiver Alignment as described on page 45 of the manual.

 I am stuck.  I don't understand the VFO frequency readout.  My KX1  
 is behaving differently then the description in the manual and I am  
 not sure what kind of mistake I am making or if there is something  
 wrong with the KX1 at this stage (although, all tests and  
 functionality have shown to be OK up until this point).

 Here is the problem.  The manual says (page 64) that when you tap  
 the BAND button that the LED readout will the frequency, first  
 showing the MHz, then KHz.  Then, it says that L or U are added in  
 LSB or USB modes.

 But, when I tap the BAND button, I get the MHz readout of 7 then I  
 get two readouts following that as 080 and then 80.0 and only on  
 this third number display is the decimal point lit up.  Thus,  
 tapping the BAND button displays 7, then 080, and then 80.0.  Now,  
 I can use the VFO Tune to adjust this final number but I am not  
 sure why I am getting three numbers whereas the manual says that I  
 would get two.

 Also, I don't see how to pick a particular frequency as the VFO  
 Tune control and the LED readout do not seem to correspond in a  
 manner that makes sense.  So, I am missing something.

 For example, if the frequency were something like 7.058 then I  
 would expect the first number to be 7, the second number to be 058.

 Can someone set me straight?

 73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Kit -- VFO Tuning and Readout ??

2010-11-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Phil,

The frequency display is not always simply MHz and kHz.  It all depends ...
The final display depends on the frequency resolution that you have set 
by tapping (or holding) the VFO knob.
Consider that the display shows only 3 digits.

If you hold the VFO knob down, the display (and the knob resolution) 
will change to kHz.  So what is displayed when you tap the band button 
is MHz followed by kHz (and nothing more).

If you tap the VFO knob to show 1 place behind the decimal, the VFO knob 
tunes in 100 Hz increments and the display shows those 100 Hz 
increments.  So the display will show something like 32.5 when tuned to 
7032.5 kHz.  When you tap the BAND button, you will see 7 followed by 
032 and then the display will show 32.5.

If you tap the VFO knob again, you will be set to 10 Hz increments, and 
the display will show something like 2.54 (using the example above).  
Tapping the BAND button will consecutively show you 7, then 032 and 
finally 2.54.

So it really does flash first MHz, and then kHz, but then shows you the 
greatest resolution that you have set by tapping/holding the VFO knob.

In other words, there is an initial display (MHz), then an interim 
display of the kHz, then a final display which can be either 10 Hz, 100 
Hz or 1 kHz depending on the resolution that you have set.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 11/11/2010 7:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 Question For you KX1 experts...

 I am in the process of building a KX1 and I am currently doing the Receiver 
 Alignment as described on page 45 of the manual.

 I am stuck.  I don't understand the VFO frequency readout.  My KX1 is 
 behaving differently then the description in the manual and I am not sure 
 what kind of mistake I am making or if there is something wrong with the KX1 
 at this stage (although, all tests and functionality have shown to be OK up 
 until this point).

 Here is the problem.  The manual says (page 64) that when you tap the BAND 
 button that the LED readout will the frequency, first showing the MHz, then 
 KHz.  Then, it says that L or U are added in LSB or USB modes.

 But, when I tap the BAND button, I get the MHz readout of 7 then I get two 
 readouts following that as 080 and then 80.0 and only on this third number 
 display is the decimal point lit up.  Thus, tapping the BAND button displays 
 7, then 080, and then 80.0.  Now, I can use the VFO Tune to adjust this final 
 number but I am not sure why I am getting three numbers whereas the manual 
 says that I would get two.

 Also, I don't see how to pick a particular frequency as the VFO Tune control 
 and the LED readout do not seem to correspond in a manner that makes sense.  
 So, I am missing something.

 For example, if the frequency were something like 7.058 then I would expect 
 the first number to be 7, the second number to be 058.

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Kit -- VFO Tuning and Readout ??

2010-11-11 Thread Phil Hystad
Don (and, also Joe)...

Thanks for the answers and the clarification.  Now, I think I can move on with 
the receiver alignment task and then finish up the kit.  However, even though I 
am not done any alignment yet, the receiver seems to work pretty good.  

73, phil, K7PEH


On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:50 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

 Phil,
 
 The frequency display is not always simply MHz and kHz.  It all depends ...
 The final display depends on the frequency resolution that you have set by 
 tapping (or holding) the VFO knob.
 Consider that the display shows only 3 digits.
 
 If you hold the VFO knob down, the display (and the knob resolution) will 
 change to kHz.  So what is displayed when you tap the band button is MHz 
 followed by kHz (and nothing more).
 
 If you tap the VFO knob to show 1 place behind the decimal, the VFO knob 
 tunes in 100 Hz increments and the display shows those 100 Hz increments.  So 
 the display will show something like 32.5 when tuned to 7032.5 kHz.  When you 
 tap the BAND button, you will see 7 followed by 032 and then the display 
 will show 32.5.
 
 If you tap the VFO knob again, you will be set to 10 Hz increments, and the 
 display will show something like 2.54 (using the example above).  Tapping the 
 BAND button will consecutively show you 7, then 032 and finally 2.54.
 
 So it really does flash first MHz, and then kHz, but then shows you the 
 greatest resolution that you have set by tapping/holding the VFO knob.
 
 In other words, there is an initial display (MHz), then an interim display of 
 the kHz, then a final display which can be either 10 Hz, 100 Hz or 1 kHz 
 depending on the resolution that you have set.
 
 73,
 Don W3FPR
 
 
 On 11/11/2010 7:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 Question For you KX1 experts...
 
 I am in the process of building a KX1 and I am currently doing the Receiver 
 Alignment as described on page 45 of the manual.
 
 I am stuck.  I don't understand the VFO frequency readout.  My KX1 is 
 behaving differently then the description in the manual and I am not sure 
 what kind of mistake I am making or if there is something wrong with the KX1 
 at this stage (although, all tests and functionality have shown to be OK up 
 until this point).
 
 Here is the problem.  The manual says (page 64) that when you tap the BAND 
 button that the LED readout will the frequency, first showing the MHz, then 
 KHz.  Then, it says that L or U are added in LSB or USB modes.
 
 But, when I tap the BAND button, I get the MHz readout of 7 then I get two 
 readouts following that as 080 and then 80.0 and only on this third number 
 display is the decimal point lit up.  Thus, tapping the BAND button displays 
 7, then 080, and then 80.0.  Now, I can use the VFO Tune to adjust this 
 final number but I am not sure why I am getting three numbers whereas the 
 manual says that I would get two.
 
 Also, I don't see how to pick a particular frequency as the VFO Tune control 
 and the LED readout do not seem to correspond in a manner that makes sense.  
 So, I am missing something.
 
 For example, if the frequency were something like 7.058 then I would expect 
 the first number to be 7, the second number to be 058.
 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Kit -- VFO Tuning and Readout ??

2010-11-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Phil, can you describe where on the page you see where it says there are
only two steps to display the frequency? I'd like to correct or clarify the
text but I cannot find it.  

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

OK, I think I know what I am reading on the LED display but I need
confirmation.  I found the W1AW scheduled CW broadcasts on 7.0475 and now
see that when I tap the button I get the following displayed sequence: 7,
047, and then 47.5.  So, I see that the final is a 100 Hz digit place and
100 Hz tuning would likely produce this final result (although I have not
yet tested that).

I think I got thrown a curve when the manual seemed to hint, no it actually
says, that there are TWO readouts, not THREE.  

peh

On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:

 Question For you KX1 experts...
 
 I am in the process of building a KX1 and I am currently doing the
Receiver Alignment as described on page 45 of the manual.
 
 I am stuck.  I don't understand the VFO frequency readout.  My KX1 is
behaving differently then the description in the manual and I am not sure
what kind of mistake I am making or if there is something wrong with the KX1
at this stage (although, all tests and functionality have shown to be OK up
until this point).
 
 Here is the problem.  The manual says (page 64) that when you tap the BAND
button that the LED readout will the frequency, first showing the MHz, then
KHz.  Then, it says that L or U are added in LSB or USB modes.
 
 But, when I tap the BAND button, I get the MHz readout of 7 then I get two
readouts following that as 080 and then 80.0 and only on this third number
display is the decimal point lit up.  Thus, tapping the BAND button displays
7, then 080, and then 80.0.  Now, I can use the VFO Tune to adjust this
final number but I am not sure why I am getting three numbers whereas the
manual says that I would get two.
 
 Also, I don't see how to pick a particular frequency as the VFO Tune
control and the LED readout do not seem to correspond in a manner that makes
sense.  So, I am missing something.
 
 For example, if the frequency were something like 7.058 then I would
expect the first number to be 7, the second number to be 058.  
 
 Can someone set me straight?
 
 73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Enhancement request - audio mixing

2010-11-11 Thread Barry N1EU
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:16 AM, k2qi@gmail.com wrote:

I may have misread the original question, but if all one wants to do is
 listen to the subrx in both channels, then it is possible by adjusting the
 mix settings, then turning the AF gain down on the main.


We're talking about single program commands to control the audio source for
each channel.

Although what you suggest might sound like a work-around, it doesn't provide
a viable macro because you can't store the initial AF gain setting in order
to restore it later.  You shouldn't have to mess with AF gain - you just
want to switch the main and sub AF source in or out in any combination.

Barry N1EU
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Enhancement request - audio mixing

2010-11-11 Thread k2qi . nyc
I now understand fully what's trying to be achieved. Sorry for the initial 
misunderstanding.  What you've described is something I too have desired, and 
would like to see it as an option one day.

73,
James K2QI
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On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 12:16 AM, k2qi@gmail.com wrote:

I may have misread the original question, but if all one wants to do is
 listen to the subrx in both channels, then it is possible by adjusting the
 mix settings, then turning the AF gain down on the main.


We're talking about single program commands to control the audio source for
each channel.

Although what you suggest might sound like a work-around, it doesn't provide
a viable macro because you can't store the initial AF gain setting in order
to restore it later.  You shouldn't have to mess with AF gain - you just
want to switch the main and sub AF source in or out in any combination.

Barry N1EU
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[Elecraft] K3 Firmware

2010-11-11 Thread Barry Simpson
Has anyone any news on a replacement for the ill fated beta 4.18 (which I am
still currently using) ?

Barry Simpson  VK2BJ
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Enhancement request - audio mixing

2010-11-11 Thread Barry N1EU

My interest in the audio mixing enhancement is limited to non-diversity use
of the subrx, i.e. with main rx on vfoA and subrx on vfoB tuned to a
different station.

The K3 already provides all the control I need for diversity reception.

Barry N1EU



K6KV Gary wrote:
 
   I've been paying close attention to this thread, having purchased
 the K3 sub-receiver with the intent of using it next Field Day with my two
 very-orthogonal 40M antennas.  My question is, has it been thought
 through
 how the capability of having two receivers and two antennas works best in
 a
 contest?  I sense from this thread that it is distracting to not be able
 to
 hear only the chosen antenna in both ears.  It makes me wonder, could a
 different optional mode for the K3's antenna switch help satisfy this
 wish?
 
   Ideas are cheap, and one that comes to mind is this:  When listening
 to two antennas, a TAP of the ANT switch would feed what's in the left ear
 into both ears.  If instead a slightly longer HOLD of the ANT switch was
 made, what was heard in the right ear would then be fed into both ears,
 and
 also select the XMIT antenna.  After the contest exchange, any further tap
 of the ANT switch would revert the receivers to putting their separate
 signals into each ear, maybe assigning the last active antenna to the left
 ear. 
   In use in a contest, then, if the desired station were strongest in
 the right ear, the operator would press the ANT switch for one second,
 work
 the station (hearing it in both ears), and finish with one tap of the ANT
 switch to returned reception to its prior dual-receiver mode. 
   Note that such a mode might be implemented as an option.  If set to
 that mode, then a K3 would enter that mode when the diversity mode was
 invoked.
   My post is not a request, but rather a question that, given the
 power of dual receivers and antenna switching, has the best way to use
 this
 capability in a contest been worked out?  
 Thanks
 Gary K6KV
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware

2010-11-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Coming soon,  It is currently in the hands of the firmware field testers.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/11/2010 8:23 PM, Barry Simpson wrote:
 Has anyone any news on a replacement for the ill fated beta 4.18 (which I am
 still currently using) ?

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Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3

2010-11-11 Thread Jack Brabham
  I would really like to see something done along this line.  It would 
significantly improve the utility of the pan-adapter.

Another possibility would be to move the waterfall along with the pan 
display and just move in blank data for the missing waterfall data.

This would be handy during SO2V contesting when running toward one end 
of the band segment and SP'ing the whole segment.

73 Jack KZ5A

On 11/10/2010 5:57 PM, ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote:
 This is to support a previous suggestion on the reflector, to allow locking 
 the P3 frequency range displayed despite tuning the K3.  The defacto mode of 
 draging and skewing the waterfall makes it unrecognizable, losing track of 
 and tune to a new target QSO up the band.   It would seem much easier if 
 tuning the K3 just moved a marker across an unmoving P3 display.  My thoughts 
 are towards operating next Field Day, where I might set the P3 to display, 
 say, 7.025 through 7.075 KHz.

 Of course there would need to be a provision for re-centering the P3, most 
 likely to a round number, not the actual K3 frequency.  For example the P3 
 could re-set its center to the nearest frequency marker at the top of the the 
 P3.  As an example, assume a P3 set to a span of 50 KHz, where its 10 markers 
 at the top would then be spaced 5 KHz apart.  Assume a K3 is tuned to 7.048 
 KHz, and the re-center button is pressed.  Consistent with the suggestion, 
 then, the center frequency of the P3 would snap to 7.050 KHz, and display a 
 span from 7.025 to 7.075 MHz.

 Besides the pile-up value another post suggests for this mode, I see it 
 equally valuable for contests and for looking for an ongoing QSO.
 73
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Kit -- VFO Tuning and Readout ??

2010-11-11 Thread Phil Hystad
On page 64, left column (Pushbutton Switch Function), in the middle of the page 
on the description of the BAND button (single tap).  The text reads:

 [BAND]  One tap shows frequency (MHz first, then kHz; L
  or U is added in LSB or USB modes).  Two quick taps
  selects the next higher band.


I think it should read as follows to make it more clear:

 [BAND]  One tap shows frequency: first MHz, second KHz, third display 
frequency
  with resolution dependent on setting by VFO tap (or 
double-tap).
  ...and so on...

What threw me for a loop was that the third display looked to be something 
unusual
since I was not expecting it and I was confused as a result.  I now understand 
how this
works but when first confronted by the display of MHz, KHz, and so on I was not 
expecting three different numbers.


73, phil, K7PEH


On Nov 11, 2010, at 5:06 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

 Phil, can you describe where on the page you see where it says there are
 only two steps to display the frequency? I'd like to correct or clarify the
 text but I cannot find it.  
 
 Ron AC7AC
 
 -Original Message-
 
 OK, I think I know what I am reading on the LED display but I need
 confirmation.  I found the W1AW scheduled CW broadcasts on 7.0475 and now
 see that when I tap the button I get the following displayed sequence: 7,
 047, and then 47.5.  So, I see that the final is a 100 Hz digit place and
 100 Hz tuning would likely produce this final result (although I have not
 yet tested that).
 
 I think I got thrown a curve when the manual seemed to hint, no it actually
 says, that there are TWO readouts, not THREE.  
 
 peh
 
 On Nov 11, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 
 Question For you KX1 experts...
 
 I am in the process of building a KX1 and I am currently doing the
 Receiver Alignment as described on page 45 of the manual.
 
 I am stuck.  I don't understand the VFO frequency readout.  My KX1 is
 behaving differently then the description in the manual and I am not sure
 what kind of mistake I am making or if there is something wrong with the KX1
 at this stage (although, all tests and functionality have shown to be OK up
 until this point).
 
 Here is the problem.  The manual says (page 64) that when you tap the BAND
 button that the LED readout will the frequency, first showing the MHz, then
 KHz.  Then, it says that L or U are added in LSB or USB modes.
 
 But, when I tap the BAND button, I get the MHz readout of 7 then I get two
 readouts following that as 080 and then 80.0 and only on this third number
 display is the decimal point lit up.  Thus, tapping the BAND button displays
 7, then 080, and then 80.0.  Now, I can use the VFO Tune to adjust this
 final number but I am not sure why I am getting three numbers whereas the
 manual says that I would get two.
 
 Also, I don't see how to pick a particular frequency as the VFO Tune
 control and the LED readout do not seem to correspond in a manner that makes
 sense.  So, I am missing something.
 
 For example, if the frequency were something like 7.058 then I would
 expect the first number to be 7, the second number to be 058.  
 
 Can someone set me straight?
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3

2010-11-11 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Jack,

See Wayne's response less than 2 hours ago - it is coming.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/11/2010 8:54 PM, Jack Brabham wrote:
I would really like to see something done along this line.  It would
 significantly improve the utility of the pan-adapter.

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Enhancement request - audio mixing

2010-11-11 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
This reply is not speculation.

We used orthogonal antennas and dual RX K3's in diversity mode at N4A
in the IOTA on Core Banks NC this summer.   It worked very well, and
we had the high North America island expedition score for LP, beating
all but one of the North America HP scores.  A pair of three band
inverted vees running NW/SE and NE/SW fed with 450 line feed and tuned
via a 4:1 balun and the K3 antenna tuners.

What happens is that with both RX on that you do not get the nature of
signal separation you are expecting. You get phasing separation
because the antennas will decode any polarization off pure vertical
and pure horizontal into the same kind of separation you have
listening to a conversation in a crowded room. Signals not low angle
frequently came in on a rotating polarization, moving back and forth
from one ear to the other.  What was quickly clear was that if we
turned off the SubRX, the moving back and forth is converted into
rapid deep QSB that defeats copy.  The LOUD stations tended more to be
in one ear or the other, but those are easy to work.  The WEAK signals
on 40m particularly, would be affected by this rotating polarity.  The
same rotation was heard on the band noise, some of the guys having a
hard time listening to this rotating background. I was constantly
cleanly copying signals that sounded like they were starting on a
fadeout but just rotated through my head to the other side instead.
One has to hear it to understand it.

The complexity you seem to be recommending was unneeded for our best
score ever.  We knew that to transmit, the predominant signals needed
to be in the LEFT ear.  The ANT button just toggled that for us.  We
used the config menu to label one ant NEAST and the other NWEST so
that came up on the display when we switched it. This was never a
confusion and it was used competently right off the bat by all the
operators.  You're transmitting to the signal in your left ear.  If
it's in the right, hit the ANT button.

If what's in the right ear is making it hard to hear, just hit the SUB
button.  Mixing the channels when doing diversity RX seems to me
anyway to just muddle it and reduce the benefits.

To use the K3 in the way described for N4A requires that the subrx is
set up to use the non-TX antenna of the ANT1 ANT2 pair. This of course
is not compatible with using AUX for diversity listening on RX only
antennas for 160 because that is not internally switched.  I have
solved that by getting the K3 back panel from Elecraft with the ANT3
BNC hole punched into it, and a miniplug to BNC cord, which I
shortened on the BNC end. I used this to bring out the other antenna
jack from KANT3 to the K3 back panel at ANT3.  Then to do this kind of
thing at FD or next year's IOTA just patch ANT3 to AUX RF and leave
the SubRX listening on AUX RF.

Having used this at N4A, I find NOT having it at home is like
something is missing, and I'm designing my station forward to take
advantage of it.

73, Guy.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Gary Gordon ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote:
        I've been paying close attention to this thread, having purchased
 the K3 sub-receiver with the intent of using it next Field Day with my two
 very-orthogonal 40M antennas.  My question is, has it been thought through
 how the capability of having two receivers and two antennas works best in a
 contest?  I sense from this thread that it is distracting to not be able to
 hear only the chosen antenna in both ears.  It makes me wonder, could a
 different optional mode for the K3's antenna switch help satisfy this wish?

        Ideas are cheap, and one that comes to mind is this:  When listening
 to two antennas, a TAP of the ANT switch would feed what's in the left ear
 into both ears.  If instead a slightly longer HOLD of the ANT switch was
 made, what was heard in the right ear would then be fed into both ears, and
 also select the XMIT antenna.  After the contest exchange, any further tap
 of the ANT switch would revert the receivers to putting their separate
 signals into each ear, maybe assigning the last active antenna to the left
 ear.
        In use in a contest, then, if the desired station were strongest in
 the right ear, the operator would press the ANT switch for one second, work
 the station (hearing it in both ears), and finish with one tap of the ANT
 switch to returned reception to its prior dual-receiver mode.
        Note that such a mode might be implemented as an option.  If set to
 that mode, then a K3 would enter that mode when the diversity mode was
 invoked.
        My post is not a request, but rather a question that, given the
 power of dual receivers and antenna switching, has the best way to use this
 capability in a contest been worked out?
 Thanks
 Gary K6KV
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware

2010-11-11 Thread James Sarte
BTW, I've noticed that the SSB power bug is still there on K3 #2730, and
this was after reverting back to 4.14

73 de James K2QI

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:36 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote:

  Coming soon,  It is currently in the hands of the firmware field testers.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 11/11/2010 8:23 PM, Barry Simpson wrote:
  Has anyone any news on a replacement for the ill fated beta 4.18 (which I
 am
  still currently using) ?
 
  Barry Simpson  VK2BJ
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Kit -- VFO Tuning and Readout ??

2010-11-11 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Tnx Phil! 

Ron 

-Original Message-
From: Phil Hystad [mailto:phys...@mac.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 6:50 PM
To: Ron D'Eau Claire
Cc: 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Kit -- VFO Tuning and Readout ??

On page 64, left column (Pushbutton Switch Function), in the middle of the
page on the description of the BAND button (single tap).  The text reads:

 [BAND]  One tap shows frequency (MHz first, then kHz; L
  or U is added in LSB or USB modes).  Two quick taps
  selects the next higher band.


I think it should read as follows to make it more clear:

 [BAND]  One tap shows frequency: first MHz, second KHz, third
display frequency
  with resolution dependent on setting by VFO tap (or
double-tap).
  ...and so on...

What threw me for a loop was that the third display looked to be something
unusual
since I was not expecting it and I was confused as a result.  I now
understand how this
works but when first confronted by the display of MHz, KHz, and so on I was
not 
expecting three different numbers.


73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] Lock P3 frequency range independent of K3

2010-11-11 Thread Jack Brabham
  Thanks Don, I don't know what I would do if I didn't have you to read 
the list for me.

73 Jack KZ5A


On 11/11/2010 8:52 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
  Jack,

 See Wayne's response less than 2 hours ago - it is coming.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 On 11/11/2010 8:54 PM, Jack Brabham wrote:
I would really like to see something done along this line.  It would
 significantly improve the utility of the pan-adapter.



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware

2010-11-11 Thread James Sarte
Something I've discovered; switching between antennas seems to affect power
output with 4.14.  For example, I was able to get 100 watts out on ANT1 but
switching to ANT2 on a dummy load only gave me 50 watts.  Switching back to
ANT1 then back to ANT2 brought power level back up to 100W.

Any suggestions?

James K2QI

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 10:29 PM, James Sarte k2qi@gmail.com wrote:

 BTW, I've noticed that the SSB power bug is still there on K3 #2730, and
 this was after reverting back to 4.14

 73 de James K2QI



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Firmware

2010-11-11 Thread James Sarte
Hi Lyle et all,

Sorry for the rapid-fire succession of email from me regarding this, but
I've found a way to replicate the issue.

I've noticed that when you reduce drive power so that the 10W amplifer is
inline, then increasing drive back up to 100W, only 50 watts will initially
be produced.  Whistling into the mic while this is happening will show the
output power slowly creep back up to the full 100W after a few seconds.

I've never had this problem until now. I do recall others describing similar
issues with firmware back in the 3.XX range.  Performing the TX gain
calibration does not fix the issue.

James K2QI


On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 11:07 PM, James Sarte k2qi@gmail.com wrote:

 Something I've discovered; switching between antennas seems to affect power
 output with 4.14.  For example, I was able to get 100 watts out on ANT1 but
 switching to ANT2 on a dummy load only gave me 50 watts.  Switching back to
 ANT1 then back to ANT2 brought power level back up to 100W.

 Any suggestions?

 James K2QI

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 New LVL Cal Function (Beta 0.41)

2010-11-11 Thread Stan Gibbs

I did an EEINIT on the advice of Gary at Elecraft and now my transfer gain is
-12.3 dB.  Don't know exactly what to make of that, or why the EEINIT should
have made a difference, but at least my result isn't so extreme compared to
others noted in this thread.

What is really interesting to me, however, is that after doing the EEINIT, I
did a fresh RF Gain calibration using my XG2 and found that the
non-linearity in the RF Gain calibration that I reported recently is gone!

Thanks, Gary!


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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Enhancement request - audio mixing

2010-11-11 Thread Gary Gordon
Thank you Guy for the best explanation I've ever read on how diversity
reception works in a contest-like environment.  I hope others found it as
enlightening as I did, and if you haven't done so already, that you'll share
it on some wider venue such as QST. 
73, Gary, K6KV
 

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From: guyk...@gmail.com [mailto:guyk...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Guy Olinger
K2AV
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:13 PM
To: Gary Gordon
Cc: Barry N1EU; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Enhancement request - audio mixing

This reply is not speculation.

We used orthogonal antennas and dual RX K3's in diversity mode at N4A
in the IOTA on Core Banks NC this summer.   It worked very well, and
we had the high North America island expedition score for LP, beating
all but one of the North America HP scores.  A pair of three band
inverted vees running NW/SE and NE/SW fed with 450 line feed and tuned
via a 4:1 balun and the K3 antenna tuners.

What happens is that with both RX on that you do not get the nature of
signal separation you are expecting. You get phasing separation
because the antennas will decode any polarization off pure vertical
and pure horizontal into the same kind of separation you have
listening to a conversation in a crowded room. Signals not low angle
frequently came in on a rotating polarization, moving back and forth
from one ear to the other.  What was quickly clear was that if we
turned off the SubRX, the moving back and forth is converted into
rapid deep QSB that defeats copy.  The LOUD stations tended more to be
in one ear or the other, but those are easy to work.  The WEAK signals
on 40m particularly, would be affected by this rotating polarity.  The
same rotation was heard on the band noise, some of the guys having a
hard time listening to this rotating background. I was constantly
cleanly copying signals that sounded like they were starting on a
fadeout but just rotated through my head to the other side instead.
One has to hear it to understand it.

The complexity you seem to be recommending was unneeded for our best
score ever.  We knew that to transmit, the predominant signals needed
to be in the LEFT ear.  The ANT button just toggled that for us.  We
used the config menu to label one ant NEAST and the other NWEST so
that came up on the display when we switched it. This was never a
confusion and it was used competently right off the bat by all the
operators.  You're transmitting to the signal in your left ear.  If
it's in the right, hit the ANT button.

If what's in the right ear is making it hard to hear, just hit the SUB
button.  Mixing the channels when doing diversity RX seems to me
anyway to just muddle it and reduce the benefits.

To use the K3 in the way described for N4A requires that the subrx is
set up to use the non-TX antenna of the ANT1 ANT2 pair. This of course
is not compatible with using AUX for diversity listening on RX only
antennas for 160 because that is not internally switched.  I have
solved that by getting the K3 back panel from Elecraft with the ANT3
BNC hole punched into it, and a miniplug to BNC cord, which I
shortened on the BNC end. I used this to bring out the other antenna
jack from KANT3 to the K3 back panel at ANT3.  Then to do this kind of
thing at FD or next year's IOTA just patch ANT3 to AUX RF and leave
the SubRX listening on AUX RF.

Having used this at N4A, I find NOT having it at home is like
something is missing, and I'm designing my station forward to take
advantage of it.

73, Guy.

On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Gary Gordon ga...@gary-gordon.com wrote:
        I've been paying close attention to this thread, having purchased
 the K3 sub-receiver with the intent of using it next Field Day with my two
 very-orthogonal 40M antennas.  My question is, has it been thought
through
 how the capability of having two receivers and two antennas works best in
a
 contest?  I sense from this thread that it is distracting to not be able
to
 hear only the chosen antenna in both ears.  It makes me wonder, could a
 different optional mode for the K3's antenna switch help satisfy this
wish?

        Ideas are cheap, and one that comes to mind is this:  When
listening
 to two antennas, a TAP of the ANT switch would feed what's in the left ear
 into both ears.  If instead a slightly longer HOLD of the ANT switch was
 made, what was heard in the right ear would then be fed into both ears,
and
 also select the XMIT antenna.  After the contest exchange, any further tap
 of the ANT switch would revert the receivers to putting their separate
 signals into each ear, maybe assigning the last active antenna to the left
 ear.
        In use in a contest, then, if the desired station were strongest in
 the right ear, the operator would press the ANT switch for one second,
work
 the station (hearing it in both ears), and finish with one tap of the ANT
 switch to returned reception to its prior dual-receiver mode.
        Note that such a mode 

[Elecraft] Milt Sullivan, RL Drake Chief Engineer, SK

2010-11-11 Thread Jim Brown
This was in today's ARRL Letter.

Milton A. Sullivan Jr, ex-K8YDO, Former Chief Engineer at R. L. Drake 
(SK)Milton A. Buddy Sullivan Jr, ex-K8YDO, of Washington, DC -- the 
former chief engineer at the R. L. Drake Company 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._L._Drake_Company -- passed away from a 
stroke on October 28. He was 85. Sullivan designed and oversaw the 
designs of all the most significant Drake Amateur Radio products, 
including the 1A, 2B and 2NT transmitter, all the 4 lines and the 
beginning of the 7 line.

After retiring from Drake in 1984, Sullivan ran his own business selling 
and setting up satellite television systems, an offshoot of his later 
projects at Drake that involved designing satellite equipment. After 
that, he went back to work full time as chief engineer for Lytton 
Electronics, where he worked until his final retirement in 1990. In 
1993, he and his wife Judith moved to South Carolina where Sullivan 
worked for Alpha Delta, the small company owned by his former Drake 
colleague and long time friend, Don Tyrrell, W8AD. Sullivan donated his 
body to science. A US Navy veteran, he will be interred at Arlington 
National Cemetery after a term with the Georgetown University Medical 
School. -- /Thanks to John Sullivan and Don Tyrrell, W8AD, for the 
information/

=   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =

I worked for Milt at R.L. Drake as a co-op EE student from Univ of 
Cincinnati, and was working at a bench in the engineering lab when news 
came over the radio that President Kennedy had been shot.

One correction/addition to the obit.  In addition to designing the 
products noted, Milt also designed the TR3, Drake's first transceiver, 
and the beginning of their line of transmitting products.  Bob Drake 
established and ran the quality company, but Milt was the chief engineer.

Both were nice guys, and Milt was a fair boss.  I never kept track of 
him after leaving Drake, and wondered what he had done with the rest of 
his life.  From the obit, quite a lot. RIP, Milt.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] ALC and power control on 40m SSB in K2/100

2010-11-11 Thread VK7JB

Hello Group,

Just to complete the loop and to say thanks to Don, Steve and others who
contributed to this discussion.

I've applied the mod to the KSB2 board - 1k0 resistor in series with the
base of Q1 and changing the value of R9.  The ALC's can now control the
output power of my K2 on 80/40/30m on SSB.

I'm very happy.  Thanks to everyone for your advice.

73,

John
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: K3 vs an RFI noisy furnace

2010-11-11 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/10/2010 10:20 AM, Don Ehrlich wrote:
 I tried a quick and dirty fix which consisted of wiring a pair
 of two microfarad/400 volt mylar film capacitors directly to an AC plug (one
 capacitor from each line to the ground pin) and then plugging it into the
 same outlet as the treadmill.

This is unsafe and illegal, because it creates large leakage currents on 
the green wire.  The maximum permitted leakage current on green is 5 mA.

One proper way to filter the AC line is with a filter that includes 
series inductance (usually a common mode choke) and much smaller shunt 
capacitors.  Common mode current on the AC line can also be suppressed 
using multi-turn ferrite chokes wound on the mains power cable.

See http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: K3 vs an RFI noisy furnace

2010-11-11 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/10/2010 7:52 AM, Don Nelson wrote:
 I am trying things to mitigate the RFI with limited success so far. I
 would very much like to hear what others have done to mitigate their
 furnace RFI problems.

There is a very good RFI email reflector at contesting.com   Go there to 
sign up.

For RFI advice, see http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

73, Jim Brown K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Milt Sullivan, RL Drake Chief Engineer, SK

2010-11-11 Thread Alan Bloom
Milt was a good guy.  I believe his title was VP of Engineering when I
was there 1976-1979.  Even though he was supposed to be an executive at
that point he still loved to get his hands dirty.  I remember him coming
up with creative ideas to solve engineering problems on some designs I
was working on at the time.  For example, the MN2700 kilowatt antenna
tuner required some high-voltage, high-current fixed capacitors.  We
were quoted a ridiculously high price and a 6-month lead time by the
vendor.  So we figured out a way to make our own capacitors from Teflon
printed circuit board (for low loss / high Q) spray-painted with Q dope
to prevent corona discharge.

Milt was a realist about project management.  He was very aware that
engineers have a tendency to try to design everything to perfection,
regardless of the schedule or cost.  He had a sign over his desk that
read, Good enough is better than perfect.

Alan N1AL


On Thu, 2010-11-11 at 21:02 -0800, Jim Brown wrote:
 This was in today's ARRL Letter.
 
 Milton A. Sullivan Jr, ex-K8YDO, Former Chief Engineer at R. L. Drake 
 (SK)Milton A. Buddy Sullivan Jr, ex-K8YDO, of Washington, DC -- the 
 former chief engineer at the R. L. Drake Company 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._L._Drake_Company -- passed away from a 
 stroke on October 28. He was 85. Sullivan designed and oversaw the 
 designs of all the most significant Drake Amateur Radio products, 
 including the 1A, 2B and 2NT transmitter, all the 4 lines and the 
 beginning of the 7 line.
 
 After retiring from Drake in 1984, Sullivan ran his own business selling 
 and setting up satellite television systems, an offshoot of his later 
 projects at Drake that involved designing satellite equipment. After 
 that, he went back to work full time as chief engineer for Lytton 
 Electronics, where he worked until his final retirement in 1990. In 
 1993, he and his wife Judith moved to South Carolina where Sullivan 
 worked for Alpha Delta, the small company owned by his former Drake 
 colleague and long time friend, Don Tyrrell, W8AD. Sullivan donated his 
 body to science. A US Navy veteran, he will be interred at Arlington 
 National Cemetery after a term with the Georgetown University Medical 
 School. -- /Thanks to John Sullivan and Don Tyrrell, W8AD, for the 
 information/
 
 =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =   =
 
 I worked for Milt at R.L. Drake as a co-op EE student from Univ of 
 Cincinnati, and was working at a bench in the engineering lab when news 
 came over the radio that President Kennedy had been shot.
 
 One correction/addition to the obit.  In addition to designing the 
 products noted, Milt also designed the TR3, Drake's first transceiver, 
 and the beginning of their line of transmitting products.  Bob Drake 
 established and ran the quality company, but Milt was the chief engineer.
 
 Both were nice guys, and Milt was a fair boss.  I never kept track of 
 him after leaving Drake, and wondered what he had done with the rest of 
 his life.  From the obit, quite a lot. RIP, Milt.
 
 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] ...RFI ...

2010-11-11 Thread John Ragle
Jim...

 Thanks very much for sending along the link to your article. It is 
a very nice not-too-technical summary, particularly as it addresses the 
RFI problem that some of us experience with nearby audio equipment, as 
well as the function of the green wire. Although not a part of the 
usual Elecraft submissions, it should be required reading, and I was 
very pleased to find it on the reflector.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

=

On 11/12/2010 12:52 AM, Jim Brown wrote: ...See 
http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf...

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