[Elecraft] Look familiar? Elecraft vs Ten Tec
Ron wrote: There are other differences that are not apparent on the front panel. No CW keying waveform shaping, for one. The absolute worst feature of the R4020: Ten-Tec confirmed to me that the iambic keyer supports mode B only. I will never buy a rig with iambic keyer that functions in mode B only. (That is the only thing that caused me not to buy an IC-7000, a radio that allows many silly and superfluous features to be customized, yet does not allow the very important feature of iambic mode selection! Icom idiocy, but Yaesu and Kenwood do likewise. Even Small Wonder Labs provides Mode B only, but Jackson Harbor provided a PIC for the DSW to correct that fault. Elecraft is to be commended for standing out and providing selection. While I'm griping...notice that QST Product Reviews (like the one for the R4020) will spend a lot of text telling the reader how to do some odd-ball thing on the rig being reviewed, but will NEVER address iambic keyer mode.) There are a some good features to the R4020, compared to the KX1: (1) It has a four-pole IF crystal filter, something the KX1 needs to properly suppress receiving a signal on both sides of the zero-beat. (2) One doesn't have to waste time building the damned thing, which could be important. The KX1 has a reputation of being a bit finicky, especially if the four-band version is attempted. (3) It *does* have variable IF bandwidth (eight steps, IIRC). It's just not *continuously* variable. I don't like *continuously* variable IF BW. I'd rather have three steps like the K1. (4) It's a LOT less expensive. And when one factors in the value of one's own time saved not having to build it, it's a lot lot less expensive. (5) It apparently uses mostly surface mount components. Though it's not a kit, I wish kit manufacturers would use pre-assembled PCBs with all the mundane components pre-assembled. This is something that MFJ tried with their Cub QRP rigs. Good concept, imperfectly executed by MFJ. (6) It has a whole frequency display, out to 10 Hz resolution. The same outfit that builds the R4020 is producing kits for the TJ6A and TJ6A Pro six-band cw and ssb QRP rigs. This outfit could provide some real competition in a few years. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Using K3 with N1MM and MMTTY
Joe, I ran into the same question a few weeks ago. Now i'm using N1MM-MMTY-K3 in AFSK, settled for that because it is easy and experts say it is a clean transmitting signal. 73 Arie PA3A Op 10-2-2011 6:08, Joe schreef: I also asked this question on the N1MM reflector. I am using N1MM COM1 port to control the K3. I have N1MM starting the MMTTY engine but it cannot key the radio because the COM1 port is already being used to control the radio. How do you K3/N1MM users interface the MMTTY engine? Thanks 73 Joe K2UF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Using K3 with N1MM and MMTTY
Joe, K2UF, wrote: I also asked this question on the N1MM reflector. I am using N1MM COM1 port to control the K3. I have N1MM starting the MMTTY engine but it cannot key the radio because the COM1 port is already being used to control the radio. How do you K3/N1MM users interface the MMTTY engine? You cannot use the same COM port for FSK keying as you do for rig control. Put your FSK/PTT interface on another (unused) COM port. Ed - P49X (W0YK) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Using K3 with N1MM and MMTTY
K2UF wrote: I also asked this question on the N1MM reflector. I am using N1MM COM1 port to control the K3. I have N1MM starting the MMTTY engine but it cannot key the radio because the COM1 port is already being used to control the radio. How do you K3/N1MM users interface the MMTTY engine? If you are trying to do FSK keying, you must use a second port. CAT control and FSK keying are incompatible and must be done on separate ports. If you are only using the port for PTT control, you can do this with a single serial port. Just let N1MM handle the PTT chores. Do not check the Digital check box in the Logger's Configurer, and set MMTTY's PTT port to NONE. Regardless of whether you are using FSK or AFSK, do not try to use MMTTY's Radio command port, i.e. set that port to NONE. 73, Rich VE3KI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KPA500 kit?
By kit does this mean K3-style solderless or old-school K1, K2, KX1 style? Thanks and 73, John AE5X http://www.ae5x.com/blog Way less than that for both the kit and build versions. We haven't set the final price yet, but the kit version should come in about $1995. 73, Eric __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Linear Wall Wart PS
What does catch my eye is the linear regulated 12V 'wall wart' they offer. Like to have one of those for hotel-room portable with my KX1. Check out the PS-12R1A from Array Solutions. If it is a linear regulated wall-wart rated at 12VDC at 1-amp. I have a couple of these that I use with some of my accessories as they are RF quiet. I had some regulated switcher wall-warts before that were very RF noisy. Phil - AD5X __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 kit?
K3 style 73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, P3 #108 -- It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets. -Voltaire, philosopher (1694-1778) On 10 Feb 2011, at 13:58, John Harper wrote: By kit does this mean K3-style solderless or old-school K1, K2, KX1 style? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Look familiar? Elecraft vs Ten Tec
So why not write a letter to the editor of QST making this point? Cheers, Lew K6LMP On Feb 9, 2011, at 11:55 PM, Mike Morrow wrote: While I'm griping...notice that QST Product Reviews (like the one for the R4020) will spend a lot of text telling the reader how to do some odd-ball thing on the rig being reviewed, but will NEVER address iambic keyer mode. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Using K3 with N1MM and MMTTY
You can use the same port for PTT and control but use must use a separate port for FSK keying. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Using-K3-with-N1MM-and-MMTTY-tp6010536p6011883.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Look familiar? Elecraft vs Ten Tec
I thought this thread was closed yesterday?? Why not post your review on QRZ or one of the other appropriate sites that publish reviews of ham equipment? On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 02:55:57 -0500 (EST), Mike Morrow k...@earthlink.net wrote: Ron wrote: There are other differences that are not apparent on the front panel. No CW keying waveform shaping, for one. The absolute worst feature of the R4020: Ten-Tec confirmed to me that the iambic keyer supports mode B only. I will never buy a rig with iambic keyer that functions in mode B only. (That is the only thing that caused me not to buy an IC-7000, a radio that allows many silly and superfluous features to be customized, yet does not allow the very important feature of iambic mode selection! Icom idiocy, but Yaesu and Kenwood do likewise. Even Small Wonder Labs provides Mode B only, but Jackson Harbor provided a PIC for the DSW to correct that fault. Elecraft is to be commended for standing out and providing selection. While I'm griping...notice that QST Product Reviews (like the one for the R4020) will spend a lot of text telling the reader how to do some odd-ball thing on the rig being reviewed, but will NEVER address iambic keyer mode.) There are a some good features to the R4020, compared to the KX1: (1) It has a four-pole IF crystal filter, something the KX1 needs to properly suppress receiving a signal on both sides of the zero-beat. (2) One doesn't have to waste time building the damned thing, which could be important. The KX1 has a reputation of being a bit finicky, especially if the four-band version is attempted. (3) It *does* have variable IF bandwidth (eight steps, IIRC). It's just not *continuously* variable. I don't like *continuously* variable IF BW. I'd rather have three steps like the K1. (4) It's a LOT less expensive. And when one factors in the value of one's own time saved not having to build it, it's a lot lot less expensive. (5) It apparently uses mostly surface mount components. Though it's not a kit, I wish kit manufacturers would use pre-assembled PCBs with all the mundane components pre-assembled. This is something that MFJ tried with their Cub QRP rigs. Good concept, imperfectly executed by MFJ. (6) It has a whole frequency display, out to 10 Hz resolution. The same outfit that builds the R4020 is producing kits for the TJ6A and TJ6A Pro six-band cw and ssb QRP rigs. This outfit could provide some real competition in a few years. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Look familiar? Elecraft vs Ten Tec
I believe Eric shut down the country bashing thread. Over the decade I've been on the Elecraft list we've had many discussions of how Elecraft products compare to others (or vice versa). 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I thought this thread was closed yesterday?? Why not post your review on QRZ or one of the other appropriate sites that publish reviews of ham equipment? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Using K3 with N1MM and MMTTY
On 2/10/2011 1:41 AM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote: Now i'm using N1MM-MMTY-K3 in AFSK, settled for that because it is easy and experts say it is a clean transmitting signal. I strongly agree, PROVIDED that you are careful to properly set audio gains in your sound card and in the radio. Within the last month or so I posted specific instructions about how to do that. Search the archives. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] UK Import Duty attracted by factory built K3.
You can also buy from QRP Project in Germany if you want to avoid the high shipping costs from the USA. I think German VAT is now cheaper than ours. The built K3s are I think professionally assembled in Germany from kits. It's a bit hard to find pricing on that website, though. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/UK-Import-Duty-attracted-by-factory-built-K3-tp6009973p6012610.html Sent from the [K3] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Split not avaiable
I just noticed that on some bands using DATA A split is not available. I have looked in the Configuration but have overlooked something somewhere. Anybody got a clue?? 73s JIM ROGERS, W4ATK w4...@bellsouth.net http://web.me.com/jimrogers_w4atk K3/100 P3 K2/10 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] UK Import Duty attracted by factory built K3.
Prices at http://www.qrp-shop.de/200/cgi-bin/shop.dll?AnbieterID=1 73 de M0XDF -- Natural ability without education has more often attained to glory and virtue than education without natural ability. -Cicero, statesman, orator, writer (106-43 BC) On 10 Feb 2011, at 17:31, Julian, G4ILO wrote: QRP Project __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Split not available
W4ATK wrote: I just noticed that on some bands using DATA A split is not available. I have looked in the Configuration but have overlooked something somewhere. Anybody got a clue?? Check to see whether both VFOs were not only in the same band, but also in the same mode. Cross-mode split between certain pairs of modes, evidently including between DATA modes and other modes, is not supported. See the information note near the bottom of the left column on p.15 of the manual (rev. D9). 73, Rich VE3KI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] UK Import Duty attracted by factory built K3.
I haven't checked all their prices but have just done a comparison between Elecraft and QRP.DE on the purchase of a P3 kit. From Elecraft, including USPS shipping and 20% VAT, at $1.60 to £1; £575. From QRP.DE, including shipping and German VAT, at €1.17 to £1; £680. I haven't bothered with a calculation for someone in the Eurozone buying both ways, but for the UK there's no doubt that direct from Elecraft is significantly cheaper, despite relative high shipping costs. As a matter of comparison, at today's exchange rate, the P3 would cost the equivalent of £440 collected in person from Aptos. I did a similar check some time ago on the K3 and came to much the same relative difference. 73 Stephen G4SJP On 10/02/2011 18:04, David Ferrington, M0XDF m0...@alphadene.co.uk wrote: Prices at http://www.qrp-shop.de/200/cgi-bin/shop.dll?AnbieterID=1 73 de M0XDF -- Natural ability without education has more often attained to glory and virtue than education without natural ability. -Cicero, statesman, orator, writer (106-43 BC) On 10 Feb 2011, at 17:31, Julian, G4ILO wrote: QRP Project __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] UK Import Duty attracted by factory built K3.
My thanks to all who answered my question, and to those who offered suggestions. 73, Geoff GM4ESD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Erratic transmit power -- ALC oscillating?
This is a new build of a rev A K2 (installed rev B mods), rework eliminators, no options installed, several other mods installed including the CW waveform keying mod (VALC circuit). Receiver is working well. If I set the output power to 5 watts, the usually K2 reports the power as 4.2 watts or 6.3 watts -- sometimes 5.1 watts. I am seeing some unexpected things in the ALC circuit on the control board and am wondering if the ALC is causing the transmit power to fluctuate. In both transmit (cw) and receive mode, on all bands, there is a 45 hertz 0.7 volt spike coming out of U10A (LMC660), causing Q8 to turn on for about 3.5 msecs every 22 msecs. The B-E junction of Q8 is limiting the spike voltage. See photo of signal on pin 1 of U10 -- same as base of Q8. Using a 10x probe, so vertical scale is 200 mV per division, horizontal scale is 5 msec per division. At the junction of R22 (82K) and R21 (270K) I am seeing a 1volt peak-to-peak signal being fed back by C46 (.01). Is this expected? I see this 'ripple' continue as a 150 mV peak at Test Point 2, and also on the output of the Xmit Mixer U10-pin4 during transmit. I have removed the control board and verified all the correct components against the Rev. H schematic. I have traced all the connections in that circuit. I have rechecked against the keying mod instructions. The CW key waveform modifications appear to be working correctly but is the ALC circuit supposed to be oscillating? The CW keying mod (rev A 2/3/2004) specifies C31 to be .01 uF. The Rev A-to-B upgrade (rev E 4/29/2003) specifies C31 to be .047 uF. I assumed that the CW keying mod was a more robust change and followed it (so C31 is .01 uF). Same problem running off a power supply or a battery. I have installed new power amp finals and new power amp bias transistors. I have carefully inspected T1-T4 in the final, including removing T3 and rewinding it. I have tested the low pass filters with a network analyzer and found no problems. I have measured and inspected the RF Output Detector circuit (and have the 1% resistor at R68 which measures to be 225.0 ohms). I am grasping at straws at this point and would appreciate troubleshooting suggestions. Bob N7ZF http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/file/n6013475/control_board_ALC_spikes_on_U10-pin1_.jpg -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Erratic-transmit-power-ALC-oscillating-tp6013475p6013475.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 Removal of DSP module
If I were to remove the DSP module, what would I need to do to return the K2 to operate without it? Perhaps a couple jumpers? Tnx Geo/W2BPI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Erratic transmit power -- ALC oscillating?
Bob, The spikes you are seeing in the ALC circuit are normal, and are not associated with any problem you may be having. Is the variation in power observed when you press the TUNE button? If so, that is normal too. The level is not controlled as tightly in TUNE as it is with normal keying as a help to those who would be using a manual tuner with the K2. You apparently have an oscilloscope - have you observed the keying waveform by connecting the 'scope across a 50 ohm dummy load? Does the waveform have a shape like that shown in the Keying Waveform Mod instructions? If so, that is OK. Does the power output oscillate with normal keying? The LED bargraph or your 'scope across a dummy load should reveal the instantaneous RF level, and it should not vary. If it does, there is an application note that will tell you how to determine the optimum value of RF Board R98 for your particular K2. Yes, you should have used the capacitor from the Keying Waveshape mod at CB C31. Are you having problems with HiCur messages and low output power? I am confused by your statements about the PA and LPF - there was no problem with that part explicitly stated - any problem there is not related to the rest of your post. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/10/2011 4:00 PM, n7zf wrote: This is a new build of a rev A K2 (installed rev B mods), rework eliminators, no options installed, several other mods installed including the CW waveform keying mod (VALC circuit). Receiver is working well. If I set the output power to 5 watts, the usually K2 reports the power as 4.2 watts or 6.3 watts -- sometimes 5.1 watts. I am seeing some unexpected things in the ALC circuit on the control board and am wondering if the ALC is causing the transmit power to fluctuate. In both transmit (cw) and receive mode, on all bands, there is a 45 hertz 0.7 volt spike coming out of U10A (LMC660), causing Q8 to turn on for about 3.5 msecs every 22 msecs. The B-E junction of Q8 is limiting the spike voltage. See photo of signal on pin 1 of U10 -- same as base of Q8. Using a 10x probe, so vertical scale is 200 mV per division, horizontal scale is 5 msec per division. At the junction of R22 (82K) and R21 (270K) I am seeing a 1volt peak-to-peak signal being fed back by C46 (.01). Is this expected? I see this 'ripple' continue as a 150 mV peak at Test Point 2, and also on the output of the Xmit Mixer U10-pin4 during transmit. I have removed the control board and verified all the correct components against the Rev. H schematic. I have traced all the connections in that circuit. I have rechecked against the keying mod instructions. The CW key waveform modifications appear to be working correctly but is the ALC circuit supposed to be oscillating? The CW keying mod (rev A 2/3/2004) specifies C31 to be .01 uF. The Rev A-to-B upgrade (rev E 4/29/2003) specifies C31 to be .047 uF. I assumed that the CW keying mod was a more robust change and followed it (so C31 is .01 uF). Same problem running off a power supply or a battery. I have installed new power amp finals and new power amp bias transistors. I have carefully inspected T1-T4 in the final, including removing T3 and rewinding it. I have tested the low pass filters with a network analyzer and found no problems. I have measured and inspected the RF Output Detector circuit (and have the 1% resistor at R68 which measures to be 225.0 ohms). __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 Removal of DSP module
Yes, two wire jumpers are needed. One between CB J1 pin 1 and J2 pin 1 - the other between J1 pin 2 and J2 pin 2. The original jumpers were soldered, but component leads bent ans stuck into the J1 and J2 headers will work quite nicely. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/10/2011 4:42 PM, w2b...@aol.com wrote: If I were to remove the DSP module, what would I need to do to return the K2 to operate without it? Perhaps a couple jumpers? Tnx Geo/W2BPI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] QST Product Reviews: Iambic Keyer Mode
I wrote: ...notice that QST Product Reviews (like the one for the R4020) will spend a lot of text telling the reader how to do some odd-ball thing on the rig being reviewed, but will NEVER address iambic keyer mode. Lew wrote: So why not write a letter to the editor of QST making this point? I somehow managed to think of that. However, I've *never* received the courtesy of a reply, even by e-mail. That's a good indication that they don't like to be bothered. Perhaps it would offend many of their commercial interests to point out such faults. No doubt, few QST readers care about CW operation anyway. Elecraft is about the *only* company that always allows iambic mode selection for their transceivers. I love the Elecraft iambic keyer performance on my K1. Mike / KK5F __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Erratic transmit power -- ALC oscillating?
Bob, One thing that I failed to add, and might be a concern to you at first. It is normal for the K2 to take 2 to 3 dit times to come up to the full requested power after a change in the power knob setting, a change in bands or a power on. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/10/2011 4:00 PM, n7zf wrote: This is a new build of a rev A K2 (installed rev B mods), rework eliminators, no options installed, several other mods installed including the CW waveform keying mod (VALC circuit). Receiver is working well. If I set the output power to 5 watts, the usually K2 reports the power as 4.2 watts or 6.3 watts -- sometimes 5.1 watts. I am seeing some unexpected things in the ALC circuit on the control board and am wondering if the ALC is causing the transmit power to fluctuate. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Fwd: K3 Sub rx for sale--SOLD
The unit is sold From: jbaumga...@aol.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 2/9/2011 19:30:22 Central Standard Time Subj: K3 Sub rx for sale I recently purchased my 2nd K3 from a fellow near the factory and had it hand delivered to Elecraft for some hardware upgrades. I decided to have the sub RX removed by Elecraft and packaged as they would a new unit. It remains in an un-opened sealed package, and of course, it is, as Dale Farmer said, built. It has the 8 pole 2.8 filter and comes with the full book of instructions as sent to the 1st owner. My other K3 has the sub rx and, for M/2 contesting, decided I'd rather reduce the cost then have both with sub rx. Will deliver in the country for a bunch off of new price--$550. John, N0IJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Previously unposted Elecraft CW Net Reports
Good Evening, I had a chance to find the top of my desk today. I collected all of the unposted net reports and filled their respective spots within the database. Hopefully there are few or no errors. Only time will tell ;) Two days of sunny weather has increased my productivity. I have not seen the top of that desk since last summer! Now to build a few things before spring weather drags me outside again. On to the lists = November 21, 2010 On 14050 kHz at 2300z: NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820 K1THP - Dave - CT - K3 - 686 KB3FBR - Joe - PA - K2 - 6178 AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398 N7KRT - Jeff - TX - K2 - 5471 K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422 W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767 K5BAW - Brad - TX KH6KM - Kelvin - HI On 7045 kHz at 0100z: NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820 K1THP - Dave - CT - K3 - 686 W8OV - Dave - TX - K3 - 3139 K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113 W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767 AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398 W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457 N7KRT - Jeff - TX - K2 - 5471 KB3FBR - Joe - PA - K2 - 6178 N7CQR - Dan - OR - K2 - 1010 K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422 NK6A - Don - CA - K3 - 4569 January 16, 2011 On 14049.5 kHz at 2300z: WB3AAL - Ron - PA - K2 - 1392 NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820 K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422 K1THP - Dave - CT - K3 - 686 AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398 N7KRT - Jeff - TX - K2 - 5471 W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457 NU1O - Chris - MA - K3 - 2341 N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866 On 7045.45 kHz at 0100z: K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3 - 1183 NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820 W8OV - Dave - TX - K3 - 3139 K1THP - Dave - CT - K3 - 686 K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113 K1EV - Bill - CT - K2 - 2152 AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398 N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866 W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457 W8RTJ - Jim - OH - K3 - 4553 W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767 N0TA - John - CO - K3 - 994 N7KRT - Jeff - TX - K2 - 5471 WU5X - Jim - AL - K2 - 3440 NK6A - Don - CA - K3 - 4569 January 23rd, 2011 On 14049.5 kHz at 2300z: NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820 K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422 N0TA - John - CO - K3 - 994 AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398 W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457 KB3FBR - Joe - PA - K2 - 6178 On 7045 kHz at 0100z: K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3 - 1183 NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820 W8OV - Dave - TX - K3 - 3139 K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422 K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113 K1THP - Dave - CT - K3 - 686 NU4I - Ken - VA W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457 KB3FBR - Joe - PA - K2 - 6178 N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866 NK6A - Don - CA - K3 - 4569 W8RTJ - Jim - OH - K2 - 5886 January 30th, 2011 On 14050 kHz at 2300z: NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820 K1THP - Dave - CT - K3 - 686 W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457 N0TA - John - CO - K3 - 994 AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398 W6SU - John - CA - K2 - 228 K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422 KB3FBR - Joe - PA - K2 - 6178 On 7045 kHz at 0100z: NO8V - John - MI - K3 - 820 N7KRT - Jeff - TX - K2 - 5471 KE7UUJ - Steve - WY W8OV - Dave - TX - K3 - 3139 K0DTJ - Brian - CA - K3 - 4113 K1THP - Dave - CT - K3 - 686 KB3FBR - Joe - PA - K2 - 6178 W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767 AB9V - Mike - IN - K3 - 398 W6JDB - Jay - OR - K3 - 1288 W0CZ - Ken - ND - K3 - 457 WI6O - John - CA - K1 - 922 N0TA - John - CO - K3 - 994 K6PJV - Dale - CA - K3 - 1183 I hope this is all of them so I can work next week from a clean slate. Thank you for your forbearance, 73, Kevin. KD5ONS (Net Control Operator 5th Class) -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] WTB: K3 Sub rx
Hello Group, I am looking for a KRX3 in the second hand market. It is light weight and can be easily shipped by USPS priority international flat rate box. I can pay you either by paypal or an US check drawn from HSBC USA. If you feel that international shipping is too troublesome, I may pick it up during Dayton 2011. If you are interested in disposal of your surplus KRX3, please reply to me OFF the list. cheers, Johnny VR2XMC 寄件人﹕ jbaumga...@aol.com jbaumga...@aol.com 收件人﹕ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 傳送日期﹕ 2011/2/11 (五) 7:33:13 AM 主題： [Elecraft] Fwd: K3 Sub rx for sale--SOLD The unit is sold From: jbaumga...@aol.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: 2/9/2011 19:30:22 Central Standard Time Subj: K3 Sub rx for sale I recently purchased my 2nd K3 from a fellow near the factory and had it hand delivered to Elecraft for some hardware upgrades. I decided to have the sub RX removed by Elecraft and packaged as they would a new unit. It remains in an un-opened sealed package, and of course, it is, as Dale Farmer said, built. It has the 8 pole 2.8 filter and comes with the full book of instructions as sent to the 1st owner. My other K3 has the sub rx and, for M/2 contesting, decided I'd rather reduce the cost then have both with sub rx. Will deliver in the country for a bunch off of new price--$550. John, N0IJ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft at the Orlando ARRL Hamcation this weekend
I'm currently in the air at 30,000 ft heading to Orlando. This in-air WiFi internet system is dangerous - I get to work all the way there. No chance to sleep.. ;-) We will be at the Orlando Hamcation ARRL convention Friday through Sunday showing off our gear at the booth. We'll have the production version of the KPA500 on display to complete our K3-P3-KPA500 'K-Line' station. :-) Please feel free to stop by, visit and stay a while. Its a great way to check out our newest offerings, ask questions and to meet with other Elecraft owners and potential owners. You also are our best salesmen. Hope to see you there. We are looking forward to seeing everyone at the show. 73, Eric WA6HHQ www.elecraft.com _..._ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft at the Orlando ARRL Hamcation this weekend
So Eric, When are you guy's coming 'downunder' then? :) We'd love to see ya's! Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF Innisfail, QLD, Australia Elecraft K3# 4257 + PR6 - K144XV = multiband goodness! - Original Message - From: Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft To: Elecraft Reflector Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 10:24 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft at the Orlando ARRL Hamcation this weekend I'm currently in the air at 30,000 ft heading to Orlando. This in-air WiFi internet system is dangerous - I get to work all the way there. No chance to sleep.. ;-) We will be at the Orlando Hamcation ARRL convention Friday through Sunday showing off our gear at the booth. We'll have the production version of the KPA500 on display to complete our K3-P3-KPA500 'K-Line' station. :-) Please feel free to stop by, visit and stay a while. Its a great way to check out our newest offerings, ask questions and to meet with other Elecraft owners and potential owners. You also are our best salesmen. Hope to see you there. We are looking forward to seeing everyone at the show. 73, Eric WA6HHQ www.elecraft.com _..._ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft at the Orlando ARRL Hamcation this weekend
I like it! K line George On Feb 10, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft e...@elecraft.com wrote: I'm currently in the air at 30,000 ft heading to Orlando. This in-air WiFi internet system is dangerous - I get to work all the way there. No chance to sleep.. ;-) We will be at the Orlando Hamcation ARRL convention Friday through Sunday showing off our gear at the booth. We'll have the production version of the KPA500 on display to complete our K3-P3-KPA500 'K-Line' station. :-) Please feel free to stop by, visit and stay a while. Its a great way to check out our newest offerings, ask questions and to meet with other Elecraft owners and potential owners. You also are our best salesmen. Hope to see you there. We are looking forward to seeing everyone at the show. 73, Eric WA6HHQ www.elecraft.com _..._ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft at the Orlando ARRL Hamcation this weekend
Unbeatable concept! Your place in the ham radio marketing hall of fame is now assured! On 2/10/2011 4:24 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote: K3-P3-KPA500 'K-Line' station -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft at the Orlando ARRL Hamcation this weekend
Whoa...Eric, while your 'up in the air' snoozing, please add KAT-500R (R=Remote) to OUR K Line eh.:-) Gary On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Vic K2VCO v...@rakefet.com wrote: Unbeatable concept! Your place in the ham radio marketing hall of fame is now assured! On 2/10/2011 4:24 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote: K3-P3-KPA500 'K-Line' station -- Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 Dare to be different!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft at the Orlando ARRL Hamcation this weekend
Eric, Please see if you can convince some of the folks in Orlando to take some really good jpegs of the full 'K line' station and post them on the internet for us to see, especially the KPA500. Any estimates on its date availability? Thanks in advance. 73 de N1LQ-Dave __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft at the Orlando
...We'll have the production version of the KPA500 on display... Don't you DARE sell that KPA500 to some newcomer in Florida!!! Ralph, VE7XF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Erratic transmit power -- ALC oscillating?
Don, Thank you for your suggestions. It sure is hard to debug circuits that have feedback loops. I was using the TUNE button for the readings that I reported, and the radio was connected to a 50-ohm resistive dummy load. I did not know that the TUNE was an approximate power level. The keying waveform matches the diagram in the mod instructions. I have retested using my cw key. I think I am only seeing the 'erratic' power on 80m and 40m. Output on the other bands seesm to be consistently the same. At '5 watts' on 80m and 40m I would occasionally get around 4.2 watts and usually get around 6.4 watts. The power will drift for about 3 to 5 seconds then stabilize. You mentioned that it should take about 3 dits for the power to stabilize, so it seems to take much too long on my K2. Having reinstalled the power amp finals this week, I do not believe that there is an issue with heatsinking or mounting of the power transistors causing the drifting. I looked at the app note regarding R98 and made the change. http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/Power_Control_Mod.html With the potentiometer at 1000 ohms, I got 12.5 watts on 10m so I put in a 1K resistor. Then I retested at the 5 watt level. On 40m, for example, I now (usually) get 5.6 watts out instead of 6.x watts. But about 10% of the time I get about 4.3 watts out. The reason that I changed the transistors and T3 in the power amp and tested the LPF is because this K2 draws more current than it should when transmitting. At 5 watts, the current draw is 2.04 to 2.18 amps on 80m through 15m. On 10 and 12m the current is 2.52 to 2.56 amps. The voltage drops from 13.6v to 13.1v on all bands (at 5watts). At 10 watts, the current is 2.50 to 2.75 amps. Power amp transformer T4 was wound with the standard 3-turn winding. Should I be concerned about the higher than normal current draw? 73, Bob - N7ZF -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Erratic-transmit-power-ALC-oscillating-tp6013475p6014455.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Erratic transmit power -- ALC oscillating?
Bob, I would not be concerned about the slightly higher current draw. Change CAL CUR to 3.50 and you should have no problems. If you add the KPA100 you will need to increase the setting to 3.50 amps anyway, so do it now. Despite the manual recommendations, many current K2s require more than 2.50 amperes under some specific circumstances. BTW - the CAL CUR setting can actually be used as a Low Battery Alarm. The K2 tries to maintain the requested power level, and when the voltage drops, that means more current must be drawn for any given power level, so if you are operating on batteries, you can set the CAL CUR value to a lower level to give you an indication that the battery voltage has dropped to a level that requires increased current. The RF gain will vary from K2 to K2, and since you can obtain greater than 12 watts on 10 meters, that says your K2 has greater than average RF Gain - and also says you did a meticulous job of construction - congratulations. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/10/2011 10:51 PM, n7zf wrote: Don, Thank you for your suggestions. It sure is hard to debug circuits that have feedback loops. I was using the TUNE button for the readings that I reported, and the radio was connected to a 50-ohm resistive dummy load. I did not know that the TUNE was an approximate power level. The keying waveform matches the diagram in the mod instructions. I have retested using my cw key. I think I am only seeing the 'erratic' power on 80m and 40m. Output on the other bands seesm to be consistently the same. At '5 watts' on 80m and 40m I would occasionally get around 4.2 watts and usually get around 6.4 watts. The power will drift for about 3 to 5 seconds then stabilize. You mentioned that it should take about 3 dits for the power to stabilize, so it seems to take much too long on my K2. Having reinstalled the power amp finals this week, I do not believe that there is an issue with heatsinking or mounting of the power transistors causing the drifting. I looked at the app note regarding R98 and made the change. http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/Power_Control_Mod.html With the potentiometer at 1000 ohms, I got 12.5 watts on 10m so I put in a 1K resistor. Then I retested at the 5 watt level. On 40m, for example, I now (usually) get 5.6 watts out instead of 6.x watts. But about 10% of the time I get about 4.3 watts out. The reason that I changed the transistors and T3 in the power amp and tested the LPF is because this K2 draws more current than it should when transmitting. At 5 watts, the current draw is 2.04 to 2.18 amps on 80m through 15m. On 10 and 12m the current is 2.52 to 2.56 amps. The voltage drops from 13.6v to 13.1v on all bands (at 5watts). At 10 watts, the current is 2.50 to 2.75 amps. Power amp transformer T4 was wound with the standard 3-turn winding. Should I be concerned about the higher than normal current draw? 73, Bob - N7ZF __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Erratic transmit power -- ALC oscillating?
Okay, Don. I will continue then with installing the options. 73, Bob - N7ZF -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Erratic-transmit-power-ALC-oscillating-tp6013475p6014647.html Sent from the [K2] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KX1 v. TT R4020
A couple of further observations: The TT R4020 is larger and heavier than the KX1. It is almost all surface mount components, with a lot of empty space inside the case. No mojo found lurking. Using a 13.5v supply, it puts out a bit more power than my KX1, 7 watts on 40, 5 watts on 20 on my OHR wattmeter (my KX1 shows 3.8 on 40, 4.2 on 20, and 5 on 30 with R1 wide open. Curiously, when I tweaked R1 to bring the 30 meter output down to 4 watts, the other bands only came down about .2 watts. But I digress) I am not an engineer, but there appears to be a pot on the R4020 schematic to adjust the drive. I haven't tried to locate it. Using 8 NIMH batteries, the R4020 output falls off only a watt or so. My KX1 puts out between 2 and 2.8 watts depending on the band with the same pack. I thought perhaps the OHR was reading high, but the KX1 will drive the pants off an HF Packer amp when run from the NIMH pack, read on a different wattmeter. I didn't make formal measurements, but the XG2 is plenty loud in the R4020 at 1uv on both bands. The R4020 doesn't have message memories per se, but it will allow you to enter your call. You can then press a button and it will call CQ, but it is CQ CQ CQ de WD6DBM WD6DBM WD6DBM PSE K which is a little odd. Normally I don't need assistance to sound like a LID. As has been pointed out, the LED display is bright and shows the entire frequency. However the tuning resolution is 10hz at the finest setting. No ATU. You use the frequency memories to change bands. So you go from VFO to MEM, then scroll through the memories to find one in the other band, then MEM to VFO. Goofy. The R4020 appears to just shut off when the SWR is too high. Cycling the power switch brings it back. This is easy to do when tweaking a magnetic loop. I have done this with my KX1 (tweak a magnetic loop) and it takes the abuse silently and stoically, as you would expect from an Elecraft product. It's a nice little rig IMHO, but not in a league with the KX1. YMMV TTYL LOL 73, Eric WD6DBM PSE K __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
