[Elecraft] K2/100 7211 TX Power output meter stopped working
Good Morning, Yeah, not sure what happened but appears when in high power mode over 10 watts power control does not work either. It gives full output. I just replaced diodes D1 and D2 1N5711s but the problem continues the same. Before I get any deeper into this does anyone have any experience with this failure and any ideas? I sure thought the diodes would fix this. I triple checked my work and the orientation of the diodes on the board. 73, Mike K0AZ K0AZ Mike Sanders EM37cd SW Missouri www.k0az.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] PSK-D Feature request
The problem is the terminology, John. In this case FSK and PSK should have been read as ASCII and Morse code. The translation from ASCII to Varicode to PSK and vice versa as well as ASCII etc first to 5 bit Baudot and then to FSK is done by software in the radio itself, as opposed to software running on a computer and processing audio going to and from a radio. The second missing link is that FSK means simply a shifting carrier on a given frequency with a given offset in the frequency domain. FSK can be amplified with whatever class used, PSK however is a single frequency which' phase is reversed in time hence amplitude driven and must be amplified linearly, something not understood by some operators who produce broad sigs with PSK, because the output meter is driven far too high or the input of their TX is already clipping. Just my two cents... HNY to you all, Peter Op 2014-01-02 3:54 schreef John Bastin: I'm interested in learning how you explain to your software that it should listen for PSK and decode it while it's transmitting FSK. 73, John K8AJS jbast...@me.com On 01 Jan 2014, at 6:33 PM, Jim Miller j...@jtmiller.com wrote: While reading the manual to setup PSK using Data-A I now read that PSK-D is actually capable of being driven by FSK keying line already! Missed that one. Jim AB3CV (now RTFMing...) On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Jim Miller j...@jtmiller.com wrote: I'd like to see PSK-D be supported by the FSK keying line ala RTTY via FSK-D. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 7211 TX Power output meter stopped working
Sorry that should have been D16 and 17. I'm going to look at the circuit again and again. 73 K0AZ Mike Sanders EM37cd SW Missouri www.k0az.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Sanders Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 7:13 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K2/100 7211 TX Power output meter stopped working Good Morning, Yeah, not sure what happened but appears when in high power mode over 10 watts power control does not work either. It gives full output. I just replaced diodes D1 and D2 1N5711s but the problem continues the same. Before I get any deeper into this does anyone have any experience with this failure and any ideas? I sure thought the diodes would fix this. I triple checked my work and the orientation of the diodes on the board. 73, Mike K0AZ K0AZ Mike Sanders EM37cd SW Missouri www.k0az.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 7211 TX Power output meter stopped working
I had a failure of the EL5146C op amp. You might check it. In my case, mine shorted internally, which brought the +5 volt supply to zero, which made the K2 think the KPA100 was not installed. But, yours might have opened or something. I think D16 D17, as well as the EL5146C might be pretty good targets for static discharges from the antenna. On Jan 3, 2014, at 8:21 AM, Mike Sanders k...@centurytel.net wrote: Sorry that should have been D16 and 17. I'm going to look at the circuit again and again. 73 K0AZ Mike Sanders EM37cd SW Missouri www.k0az.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Sanders Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 7:13 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K2/100 7211 TX Power output meter stopped working Good Morning, Yeah, not sure what happened but appears when in high power mode over 10 watts power control does not work either. It gives full output. I just replaced diodes D1 and D2 1N5711s but the problem continues the same. Before I get any deeper into this does anyone have any experience with this failure and any ideas? I sure thought the diodes would fix this. I triple checked my work and the orientation of the diodes on the board. 73, Mike K0AZ K0AZ Mike Sanders EM37cd SW Missouri www.k0az.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: aa...@arrl.net Web: http://boringhamradiopart.blogspot.com Quote: Not within a thousand years will man ever fly! -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KRX3 input protection
Hi all, My KRX3 is on the truck and due tuesday. Quick question: I will be running the main receiver on a receive only antenna fed via the KXV3A and the subrx via its bnc aux. These antennas are quite close to the xmit antennas. Should I use any sort of attenuation and/or external TR switch on either of these receiver inputs? I eventually will be running a KPA500 full power... tia, Steve AD0ES __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 7211 TX Power output meter stopped working
Mike, Check the power control 5 watts requested. If you actually get more than 10 watts output then either the diodes (I understand you replaced them) or KPA100 U6 may be the cause - there are a few other possibilities too. During a TUNE, you should have voltage into U6 pin 3, and approximately twice that voltage at U6 pin 7. If no output at U6 pin 7, check U6 pin 8. If it is not 5 volts, then you have a firmware problem. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/3/2014 8:21 AM, Mike Sanders wrote: Sorry that should have been D16 and 17. I'm going to look at the circuit again and again. 73 K0AZ Mike Sanders EM37cd SW Missouri www.k0az.com -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Sanders Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 7:13 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K2/100 7211 TX Power output meter stopped working Good Morning, Yeah, not sure what happened but appears when in high power mode over 10 watts power control does not work either. It gives full output. I just replaced diodes D1 and D2 1N5711s but the problem continues the same. Before I get any deeper into this does anyone have any experience with this failure and any ideas? I sure thought the diodes would fix this. I triple checked my work and the orientation of the diodes on the board. 73, Mike K0AZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 and other items for sale
For Sale – Elecraft K2 (KDSP2, KNB2, K6XX CW Indicator, KAF2, KBT2 w/o battery, KF02, KSB2, K160RX, K2 dimple tuning knob), and KAT2. SN 04242. $750.00 For Sale – Elecraft KAT2 Tuner New in bag $100.00 For Sale - Elecraft KAT2 Tuner built $150.00 For Sale – Elecraft EC2 Blank Project Enclosure $25.00 Please contact off list. Frank Skinner K0JQZ f_skin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio line out level with blue tooth hearing aid amp
Thanks for the comments. Using the LINE OUT at a fixed level - whatever that might be - does not allow volume control from the front panel AF/RF knobs. With this setup the only volume control is on the blue tooth transmitter which does not allow fine and immediate control as the operating environment changes. With LINE OUT set to PHONES, the output level is controlled from the front panel which is desirable. However, as stated in my original post, there is no AF/RF setting that delivers enough signal volume, regardless of the volume setting on the blue tooth transmitter. However, while the signal level is way down, the radio control beeps are at their normal volume suggesting that some adjustment/switch is incorrect. What might this adjustment/switch be? The other issue is that sound out of the front panel audio jack, while loud and controllable, is very distorted as heard via the blue tooth transmitter. This may be because of an impedance mismatch; I don't know right off what the input impedance of the blue tooth unit is. Another reason may be a very limited dynamic range in the blue tooth unit. The blue tooth transmitter does work as advertised when used as intended: enhancing speech levels in a natural environment. This agan suggests that impedance matching and/or dynamic range may be the issue(s), at least when using the K3's front panel audio jack. ...robert On 1/1/2014 20:45, Robert G Strickland wrote: Happy New Year to all. I just got new ReSound hearing aids w/ a blue tooth amp pickup. I connected the blue tooth transmitter to the front panel PHONES and got plenty of sound but very distorted at levels necessary for operating. I then connected it to the LINE OUT in the back of the K3 and switched that output level from fixed to PHONES. The audio level for signals is almost too low to hear at any level of AF/RF gain, but the beep level for radio control is very loud. How do I get the signal output from the LINE OUT jack up to a useable level? Any thoughts as to why the audio from the front panel PHONES is so distorted? Is this a radio issue or something to do with the blue tooth transmitter and the hearing aids? Thanks for any and all comments. ...robert -- Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY rc...@verizon.net.usa Syracuse, New York, USA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 input protection
Steve, the subRX of the K3 has its protection (an rf triggered relay if the power coming into the rx is too high). I've used the K3-KPA500 on a beam and I had a diversity vertical connected to the subrx quite next to it. No problem at all. It all depends on the coupling of the antennas. Try and see how you go at your QTH; the subRX is protected. 73 Arie PA3A AD0ES schreef op 3-1-2014 15:23: Hi all, My KRX3 is on the truck and due tuesday. Quick question: I will be running the main receiver on a receive only antenna fed via the KXV3A and the subrx via its bnc aux. These antennas are quite close to the xmit antennas. Should I use any sort of attenuation and/or external TR switch on either of these receiver inputs? I eventually will be running a KPA500 full power... tia, Steve AD0ES __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 input protection
Steve - I have a similar setup as Arie - an 80 meter Inverted L at 40 feet for my transmitting antenna and a Hustler 5BTV vertical ground mounted about 10 feet from being directly under the vertical. Works fine. If I crank up my KPA500, the relays in the K3 quickly isolate the subrx from too much RF. Jim / W6JHB On Jan 3, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote: Steve, the subRX of the K3 has its protection (an rf triggered relay if the power coming into the rx is too high). I've used the K3-KPA500 on a beam and I had a diversity vertical connected to the subrx quite next to it. No problem at all. It all depends on the coupling of the antennas. Try and see how you go at your QTH; the subRX is protected. 73 Arie PA3A AD0ES schreef op 3-1-2014 15:23: Hi all, My KRX3 is on the truck and due tuesday. Quick question: I will be running the main receiver on a receive only antenna fed via the KXV3A and the subrx via its bnc aux. These antennas are quite close to the xmit antennas. Should I use any sort of attenuation and/or external TR switch on either of these receiver inputs? I eventually will be running a KPA500 full power... tia, Steve AD0ES __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 input protection
Jim and Steve, While the COR will do its job, I recommend that you not abuse it. If you hear the COR operating during transmit, it would be wise to provide some external switching (relay) to remove the RX antenna while transmitting or insert an attenuator. Of course, the best solution is to locate the RX antenna away from the TX antenna, but that is not always a practical solution. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/3/2014 11:38 AM, Jim Bennett wrote: Steve - I have a similar setup as Arie - an 80 meter Inverted L at 40 feet for my transmitting antenna and a Hustler 5BTV vertical ground mounted about 10 feet from being directly under the vertical. Works fine. If I crank up my KPA500, the relays in the K3 quickly isolate the subrx from too much RF. Jim / W6JHB On Jan 3, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote: Steve, the subRX of the K3 has its protection (an rf triggered relay if the power coming into the rx is too high). I've used the K3-KPA500 on a beam and I had a diversity vertical connected to the subrx quite next to it. No problem at all. It all depends on the coupling of the antennas. Try and see how you go at your QTH; the subRX is protected. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio line out level with blue tooth hearing aid amp
Robert, What happens if you plug the Bluetooth transmitter into the speaker jack on the rear panel? It is worth a try. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/3/2014 10:42 AM, Robert G Strickland wrote: Thanks for the comments. Using the LINE OUT at a fixed level - whatever that might be - does not allow volume control from the front panel AF/RF knobs. With this setup the only volume control is on the blue tooth transmitter which does not allow fine and immediate control as the operating environment changes. With LINE OUT set to PHONES, the output level is controlled from the front panel which is desirable. However, as stated in my original post, there is no AF/RF setting that delivers enough signal volume, regardless of the volume setting on the blue tooth transmitter. However, while the signal level is way down, the radio control beeps are at their normal volume suggesting that some adjustment/switch is incorrect. What might this adjustment/switch be? The other issue is that sound out of the front panel audio jack, while loud and controllable, is very distorted as heard via the blue tooth transmitter. This may be because of an impedance mismatch; I don't know right off what the input impedance of the blue tooth unit is. Another reason may be a very limited dynamic range in the blue tooth unit. The blue tooth transmitter does work as advertised when used as intended: enhancing speech levels in a natural environment. This agan suggests that impedance matching and/or dynamic range may be the issue(s), at least when using the K3's front panel audio jack. ...robert __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 svga hangs
I have the following setup: K3 (with two receivers) P3 with SVGA Steppir 3 element Yagi External monitor attached to P3 I am having problems with the P3 SVGA being sluggish and periodically locking up. Sometimes the external monitor locks up, sometimes both. I can usually get it running by turning the P3 off and on. This happens fairly frequently and can be quite annoying. The impression is the P3 SVGA is overloaded and can't keep up. The software is all up to date. Everything else seems to be working just fine. Any help would be appreciated. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 svga hangs
I have this happen occasionally, but only when I am transmitting with the KPA500. In RX and barefoot, it's solid. I'm going to try some additional snap-on ferrite chokes on the lines, etc. - 73 de Mike, K6MKF, W6NAG, Secretary - NCDXC, IDXG, RRC #933, K3-P3-KPA500-KAT500 Addict, Maui -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of George Thornton Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 8:57 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 svga hangs I have the following setup: K3 (with two receivers) P3 with SVGA Steppir 3 element Yagi External monitor attached to P3 I am having problems with the P3 SVGA being sluggish and periodically locking up. Sometimes the external monitor locks up, sometimes both. I can usually get it running by turning the P3 off and on. This happens fairly frequently and can be quite annoying. The impression is the P3 SVGA is overloaded and can't keep up. The software is all up to date. Everything else seems to be working just fine. Any help would be appreciated. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 input protection
I saw a suggestion somewhere for using a small grain-of-wheat bulb across the 2nd antenna's lead as you gradually increase transmit power. If I remember correctly, the bulb I used was a 5 V @ 50 mA lamp, typical of those used as LCD screen illuminators. I tried that with a 600 ' Beverage that is at least 75 feet from any transmit antenna and was very surprised to see the bulb glowing brightly on a couple bands with only 50 watts into the LPDA up at 55'. The Beverage is fed with a 9:1 transformer and is about 8 feet off the ground, running away from any active antennas. Try it, it's quite an eye opener. 73, Charlie k3ICH - Original Message - From: Arie Kleingeld PA3A p...@xs4all.nl To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 11:12 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KRX3 input protection Steve, the subRX of the K3 has its protection (an rf triggered relay if the power coming into the rx is too high). I've used the K3-KPA500 on a beam and I had a diversity vertical connected to the subrx quite next to it. No problem at all. It all depends on the coupling of the antennas. Try and see how you go at your QTH; the subRX is protected. 73 Arie PA3A AD0ES schreef op 3-1-2014 15:23: Hi all, My KRX3 is on the truck and due tuesday. Quick question: I will be running the main receiver on a receive only antenna fed via the KXV3A and the subrx via its bnc aux. These antennas are quite close to the xmit antennas. Should I use any sort of attenuation and/or external TR switch on either of these receiver inputs? I eventually will be running a KPA500 full power... tia, Steve AD0ES __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 SVGA USB Hub usage?
I seem to remember it is not recommended to attempt to use a usb hub in the P3's SVGA USB port, can't find it now that I am looking for it. :-/ my question: would this hub with on/off power switches for each usb port work? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0J2-000N-9 it says: Built-in Power On/Off switches and LED power On/Off indicators for each port for better performance and power management. sure would save wear and tare on the P3's usb port when plugging in and out a memory stick and then back to the keyboard. tia -- GB 73 K5OAI Sam Morgan __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA USB Hub usage?
Hi Sam, The USB port on the P3/SVGA does not support hubs. 73, Paul -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-SVGA-USB-Hub-usage-tp7582492p7582493.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Audio feedback
Dick, You did not indicate if the feedback is in the internal K3 speaker or an external speaker. I have no problem with my K3 using an ext. spkr (but that is because it is unamplified 1950's era National 8-inch speaker). I do get audio feedback with my KX3 because I am using cheap computer speakers that are prone to RF rectification in the amplifier. I have to run the speaker volume down if I operate 300w on HF or 6m. That requires running the KX3 volume too high for my tastes (tends to become distorted at the high end). I like running a combination volume settings where the volume in the KX3 is set about 8-12. So back to my point that cheap amplified speakers can be subject to stray RF in the shack. My 300w amp is still open-air and not enclosed in a cabinet (which would also help reduce feedback in my wife's FM radio in her hobby room next to the shack). I bought her the West Mountain speaker for her computer and it is totally free of RF pickup; I'll be getting a pair for my KX3 sometime this winter. Also buying an enclosure for the 300w amp including bypassing of the dc and control lines. But first checking monitor setting is a good idea. I've had that happen a time or two going between CW and SSB. 73, Ed - KL7UW From: Dick Brown richardjoa...@comcast.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Audio feedback Message-ID: dc821876-fdd9-461c-9171-03a488492...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am getting audio feedback via the speaker when I transmit on K3. What's a way to solve this. KT6X 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Kits made by KL7UW Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 svga hangs
Mine used to hang occasionally when I was running 1920 x 1080 resolution. It hasn't happened since I switched to 1440 x 900. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -Original Message- From: George Thornton Sent: Friday, January 3, 2014 9:57 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 svga hangs I have the following setup: K3 (with two receivers) P3 with SVGA Steppir 3 element Yagi External monitor attached to P3 I am having problems with the P3 SVGA being sluggish and periodically locking up. Sometimes the external monitor locks up, sometimes both. I can usually get it running by turning the P3 off and on. This happens fairly frequently and can be quite annoying. The impression is the P3 SVGA is overloaded and can't keep up. The software is all up to date. Everything else seems to be working just fine. Any help would be appreciated. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio line out level with blue tooth hearing aid amp
Happy New Year, Don... Using audio out from the rear speaker jack is the same as the front headphone jack: low audio which becomes distorted as the gain from either the radio or the BT transmitter is increased. I'm thinking that this might be a limitation in the hearing aids. I haven't checked with the hearing aid people about increasing the gain of the hearing aids in the BT mode. That's worth a try. I'll report back. ...robert On 1/3/2014 16:55, Don Wilhelm wrote: Robert, What happens if you plug the Bluetooth transmitter into the speaker jack on the rear panel? It is worth a try. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/3/2014 10:42 AM, Robert G Strickland wrote: Thanks for the comments. Using the LINE OUT at a fixed level - whatever that might be - does not allow volume control from the front panel AF/RF knobs. With this setup the only volume control is on the blue tooth transmitter which does not allow fine and immediate control as the operating environment changes. With LINE OUT set to PHONES, the output level is controlled from the front panel which is desirable. However, as stated in my original post, there is no AF/RF setting that delivers enough signal volume, regardless of the volume setting on the blue tooth transmitter. However, while the signal level is way down, the radio control beeps are at their normal volume suggesting that some adjustment/switch is incorrect. What might this adjustment/switch be? The other issue is that sound out of the front panel audio jack, while loud and controllable, is very distorted as heard via the blue tooth transmitter. This may be because of an impedance mismatch; I don't know right off what the input impedance of the blue tooth unit is. Another reason may be a very limited dynamic range in the blue tooth unit. The blue tooth transmitter does work as advertised when used as intended: enhancing speech levels in a natural environment. This agan suggests that impedance matching and/or dynamic range may be the issue(s), at least when using the K3's front panel audio jack. ...robert __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY rc...@verizon.net.usa Syracuse, New York, USA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Shipping. K3
I've not had to ship anything worth $4,000 so have not encountered any packing issues with USPS, UPS, or Fedex. But I would like to say a word about those Pelican Cases. I first encountered them in the workplace 15 years ago when we had a portable VHF repeater built-into one of the smaller size cases. The foam padding makes for a very secure shipping package. I liked the idea so much I built my 10-GHz portable station into one. I had room for a few tools, horn antenna, and some spare parts and even a small sealed acid battery. Originally, I could carry it on airplanes for trips. Post 911, TSA screening made that dubious, so one year I shipped the pelican case by Fedex using no extra external packing. I did add a hardened brass combo lock (which was fine for Fedex; I did open the case so the Fedex clerk could see what is inside). Note that airlines do not guarantee electronic items in checked luggage. Everything survived fine. My KX3 will be riding in this case in place of the FT-817 I used to own. I got it back because this was not shipping for mfr repairs. I informed the hotel and they were happy to hold it in their baggage room a few days until my arrival. Fedex just delivered to the hotel. This did cost shipping but that is the reality of flying these days. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Kits made by KL7UW Dubus Mag business: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 audio line out level with blue tooth hearing aid amp
I got a boost of 15dB on my hearing aids and it works great with the rear K3 connector John Hendricks K7JLT On Jan 3, 2014, at 10:52, Robert G Strickland rc...@verizon.net wrote: Happy New Year, Don... Using audio out from the rear speaker jack is the same as the front headphone jack: low audio which becomes distorted as the gain from either the radio or the BT transmitter is increased. I'm thinking that this might be a limitation in the hearing aids. I haven't checked with the hearing aid people about increasing the gain of the hearing aids in the BT mode. That's worth a try. I'll report back. ...robert On 1/3/2014 16:55, Don Wilhelm wrote: Robert, What happens if you plug the Bluetooth transmitter into the speaker jack on the rear panel? It is worth a try. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/3/2014 10:42 AM, Robert G Strickland wrote: Thanks for the comments. Using the LINE OUT at a fixed level - whatever that might be - does not allow volume control from the front panel AF/RF knobs. With this setup the only volume control is on the blue tooth transmitter which does not allow fine and immediate control as the operating environment changes. With LINE OUT set to PHONES, the output level is controlled from the front panel which is desirable. However, as stated in my original post, there is no AF/RF setting that delivers enough signal volume, regardless of the volume setting on the blue tooth transmitter. However, while the signal level is way down, the radio control beeps are at their normal volume suggesting that some adjustment/switch is incorrect. What might this adjustment/switch be? The other issue is that sound out of the front panel audio jack, while loud and controllable, is very distorted as heard via the blue tooth transmitter. This may be because of an impedance mismatch; I don't know right off what the input impedance of the blue tooth unit is. Another reason may be a very limited dynamic range in the blue tooth unit. The blue tooth transmitter does work as advertised when used as intended: enhancing speech levels in a natural environment. This agan suggests that impedance matching and/or dynamic range may be the issue(s), at least when using the K3's front panel audio jack. ...robert __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY rc...@verizon.net.usa Syracuse, New York, USA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 and other items for sale
For Sale - Elecraft K2 (KDSP2, KNB2, K6XX CW Indicator, KAF2, KBT2 w/o battery, KF02, KSB2, K160RX, K2 dimple tuning knob), and KAT2. SN 04242. $750.00 For Sale - Elecraft KAT2 Tuner built $150.00 SOLD - Elecraft KAT2 Tuner New in bag $100.00 SOLD - Elecraft EC2 Blank Project Enclosure $25 72 Frank Skinner K0JQZ f_skin...@yahoo.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] (no subject)
Hi everyone I am thinking of buying a KPA500 and maybe a tuner.Main reason is that it covers 50 MHz. As it is not cheap to import ( dollar exchange rate, freight, sales tax here etc) I am interested in what others have found with the amps performance on 50 Mhz. 73 Ross ZL3ADT __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 9248 (20140103) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Build, Rescue, or Service your Elecraft?
Hello, Have you always wanted an Elecraft? A KX1, K1, K2, K3, whatever? I build and service them all! See what my clients have said about my construction and service work at http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/6768 In addition to tuning up your rig, I can also rescue a building project you might have started some time ago. Cheers, Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX (K2-5373, K3-40) 570-478-0736 Williamsport, PA 17701 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Shipping K3 in containers you want back?
Jim, I do not know the practices used at Watsonville, but I can tell you mine. I do much of the repair work on legacy Elecraft gear (K2, K1, KX1, XV series and other thru-hole kits). I always attempt to return the gear in the same carton it was shipped in. Exceptions will be when the original packing is no longer serviceable or it arrived in a UPS Priority Mail box and I am asked to return it via UPS (the Priority Mail boxes are only for Priority Mail). Common sense prevails at my work station. The original carton and the paperwork stay together with the rig while it is being serviced - including pelican cases or other special protective cases. The decision of which box to pack it in comes only at the time of packing, and again, everything is together during that process. So if you ship me something for repair in some special packaging, you will get it back in that same packaging if at all possible. I assume similar practices are in place at other Elecraft repair depots, but I cannot say for certain because the subject has not come up before, and I have not asked the others for their procedures. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/2/2014 3:39 PM, Jim Miller wrote: I have sent items back in the manufacturers case only to have them returned to me after repair or whatever in a different carton altogether (NOT necessarily as sturdy or well padded as the original I had used). What done you do to get them to return the Pelican case instead of a cardboard box? I have purchased a surplus military case that was used for night vision optical equipment (heavy metal with twist locks, handle) and is really nice size for the K3 and foam (nothing extra) for transport but would be skeptical of sending it in because of previous experiences. What do you think? 73, Jim KG0KP Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping. K3 On 12/31/2013 10:20 AM, John's email wrote: I sent my K3 back to the factory a couple of weeks ago. When I took it to the UPS shipper here, he had to call UPS for special instructions since the declared valued was so high. I had it packed in the box Elecraft sent it back to me the last time I sent it in. UPS made me take it home and double box it. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] JT65HF for the KX3
I'd suggest you contact Elecraft support for some pointers. For a more complete overview and operating processes, check out Fred Cady's book. Google KE7X and you'll find it. Lastly, Google KX3 jt65-hf https://www.google.com/search?q=kx3+jt65-hfie=utf-8oe=utf-8aq=trls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-achannel=fflb for even more folks asking similar questions. Cheers, David -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/JT65HF-for-the-KX3-tp7582476p7582503.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 svga hangs
Hi, George. I reported a similar problem here on the reflector in early December: - I am using a P3 with the SVGA option. It is connected to a K3. I find that frequently after transmitting -- particularly calling a DX station in a split-frequency pileup -- the P3 display comes back sluggish or almost frozen for up to 20 seconds or so. Then it returns to providing real-time information. It's almost like the P3 is suffering from data overload, finally processes it, and gets back to normal. This is particularly annoying as one cannot spot where the DX is listening in said pileup because the screen is essentially frozen and does not display stations real-time until it unfreezes. This happens regardless of mode (CW, SSB or RTTY). In RTTY this freeze time also locks up the USB keyboard. The problem does not appear to be RFI related, as I get it regardless of the power output level. - This may or may not be your situation. It only seems to occur in fixed-tune mode. Elecraft (Howard and Paul) responded that they were able to duplicate the problem, but I have never heard a resolution other than to use tracking mode instead. As you say, this is very annoying and makes operating RTTY a chore. I've since started using a different rig, in part due to this issue. Larry K5RK -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of George Thornton Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 10:57 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 svga hangs I have the following setup: K3 (with two receivers) P3 with SVGA Steppir 3 element Yagi External monitor attached to P3 I am having problems with the P3 SVGA being sluggish and periodically locking up. Sometimes the external monitor locks up, sometimes both. I can usually get it running by turning the P3 off and on. This happens fairly frequently and can be quite annoying. The impression is the P3 SVGA is overloaded and can't keep up. The software is all up to date. Everything else seems to be working just fine. Any help would be appreciated. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Experimental firmware for those who *do* want to listen to the AM band on the KX3...
Hi all, The KX3 is primarily an HF-6 meter radio. But it does have useful sensitivity in the 500-1700 kHz AM broadcast band (or BCB for short). I'm looking for a few testers for a new firmware release (rev 1.84) that can improve AM-band sensitivity by as much as 10 to 20 dB for stations below 1300 kHz. This only applies if you have a KXAT3 ATU installed; the new firmware changes the way the ATU handles this range. The actual sensitivity improvement varies greatly depending on what kind of antenna is used. Operating Details: In the ATU MD menu entry, you can now tap '1' (PRE) to select one of two optimizations for the AM broadcast band: BCB NOR or BCB=160. BCB NOR is the default setting: below 1300 kHz, the KXAT3's L-network is configured as a filter to reject harmonic images. BCB=160 uses the normal 160-meter L-network settings below 1300 kHz (i.e., the settings you obtained when you tuned up the ATU on 160 meters). There's a tradeoff here. BCB NOR will provide much better rejection of BCB station harmonic images--as much as 50 dB at the low end of the band--but it also attenuates some signals significantly. BCB=160 doesn't reject harmonics as well, but it will bring signal strength in many cases. Theory: We made two design choices in the KX3 that affect AM broadcast band reception. 1. Like all Elecraft transceivers, the KX3 uses special low-resistance RF diodes called PIN diodes for transmit/receive switching. These diodes perform very well on 160 meters and up, but fall off in linearity toward low end of the AM broadcast band. For this reason, the KX3's T/R switch is designed to have an inherent high-pass response. By the time you get to 500 kHz, signals are attenuated by nominally 30 dB. This does a very good job of protecting the PIN diodes. 2. Being primarily a ham-band transceiver, the KX3 doesn't have low-pass (half-octave) filters for frequencies below 160 meters. The KX3 is also a baseband SDR (software-defined radio) architecture, so tuning the VFO well below the low-pass filter cutoff can result in harmonic image responses if strong low-frequency signals are present. (These have no effect when listening above about 1.5 kHz.) The KXAT3 ATU module can help with the latter issue by acting as a low-pass filter, assuming you have the BCB NOR option in effect. As you tune the VFO down through the AM broadcast band, the L-network in the ATU is automatically adjusted to values of L and C that provide this filtering. There are also extra capacitors in the L-network that are only used when the radio is tuned below 1300 kHz. However, this can also attenuate signals as mentioned above. If BCB=160 is selected, the ATU will not be configured as a low-pass filter. It simply uses the 160-meter settings. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Shipping K3 in containers you want back?
I am sorry. I didn't specify that this was not Elecraft who was involved. I was asking a generic question about experiences vs. what I have had in two cases. One was not an issue but I consider it just plain lucky that the other arrived back undamaged. Thanks for all the comments. Again, Elecraft was not involved. 73, Jim -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com] Sent: Friday, January 03, 2014 5:18 PM To: Jim Miller; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping K3 in containers you want back? Jim, I do not know the practices used at Watsonville, but I can tell you mine. I do much of the repair work on legacy Elecraft gear (K2, K1, KX1, XV series and other thru-hole kits). I always attempt to return the gear in the same carton it was shipped in. Exceptions will be when the original packing is no longer serviceable or it arrived in a UPS Priority Mail box and I am asked to return it via UPS (the Priority Mail boxes are only for Priority Mail). Common sense prevails at my work station. The original carton and the paperwork stay together with the rig while it is being serviced - including pelican cases or other special protective cases. The decision of which box to pack it in comes only at the time of packing, and again, everything is together during that process. So if you ship me something for repair in some special packaging, you will get it back in that same packaging if at all possible. I assume similar practices are in place at other Elecraft repair depots, but I cannot say for certain because the subject has not come up before, and I have not asked the others for their procedures. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/2/2014 3:39 PM, Jim Miller wrote: I have sent items back in the manufacturers case only to have them returned to me after repair or whatever in a different carton altogether (NOT necessarily as sturdy or well padded as the original I had used). What done you do to get them to return the Pelican case instead of a cardboard box? I have purchased a surplus military case that was used for night vision optical equipment (heavy metal with twist locks, handle) and is really nice size for the K3 and foam (nothing extra) for transport but would be skeptical of sending it in because of previous experiences. What do you think? 73, Jim KG0KP Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Shipping. K3 On 12/31/2013 10:20 AM, John's email wrote: I sent my K3 back to the factory a couple of weeks ago. When I took it to the UPS shipper here, he had to call UPS for special instructions since the declared valued was so high. I had it packed in the box Elecraft sent it back to me the last time I sent it in. UPS made me take it home and double box it. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] OT: Shipping experiences
I do the packing and shipping of Rose's dust covers and carrying cases. The total is nearing 2K packages, and with only a couple of exceptions -all- have gone via USPS Priority Mail and usually reach their destinations in two to three days. Priority Mail now provides tracking numbers, BTW. The only one to go astray was due to me typo-ing a digit wrong in a ZIP code. The auto sorting routine had it shuttling between Los Angeles and Seattle for almost a month! Rose has a surprising number non-US customers and ships all over the world ... even Nepal. The record was a carrying case that went from here in Montana to Turkey in five days. Amazing! Non-US packages go via USPS Air Mail ... customs forms are a snap. USPS Priority Mail is slightly cheaper than UPS ground and is certainly faster, and any of the faster versions of UPS are -really- expensive. FedEx seems to vary widely, depending on the area. We've -never- had a satisfactory FedEx delivery, and won't use them under any circumstances. Then, there are the five customers that have stiffed her. Two are in the UK, two from the Visalia DX Convention and one US attorney. (;-( 73! Ken - K0PP elecraftcov...@gmail.com http://tinyurl.com/7lm3m5 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)
On 1/3/2014 2:46 PM, Ross Johnson wrote: I am interested in what others have found with the amps performance on 50 Mhz. Mine works VERY well -- 500W out with about 28w drive, and it can run that way for keydown modes like FSK441, JT65, and RTTY. Runs nicely on 120VAC or 240VAC, simple configuration at the mains socket on the back of the unit. It's been in service for about 3 years. Lots of contesting, always run with all the lights lit. :) 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] OT: Shipping experiences
Sounds like Kingston Trio lyrics. 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW The only one to go astray was due to me typo-ing a digit wrong in a ZIP code. The auto sorting routine had it shuttling between Los Angeles and Seattle for almost a month! 73! Ken - K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
